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"OKPW 2022: Revolution into Rasslemania"


  

          

Wrestling is ongoing.

AEW Revolution is tonight. I shall watch and hope I don't let myself get burned out by the few car crash matches they have planned. I'm AMPED for at least half the card so that's a good sign. Sensible dinners Jericho vs Peanut Butter Pie Kingston has me excited and I keep forgetting about it. That's another sign of a pretty heavy-handed card for these folks.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10028539-updated-2022-aew-revolution-match-card-ahead-of-ppv

WWE's Mania is about a month away and trying to come together around Charlotte/Rousey, Becks/Belair, and Roman/Brock Part 17. I've been looking back at some old manias and lawd hammercy..there's some rancidly bad ones in between some sneaky great ones that stand up TIL THIS DAY. And even some of the ones that are labelled as 'good' are 2 or 3 good azz matches surrounded by some pretty pointless 'cool yourselves off until the next good thing' stuff.

Nobody really knows what's up with Cody.

Cesaro is out in the wild now too allegedly.

Jake Something (decent rassler from Impact) is allegedly not at the tapings today.

Jeff Hardy is coming to AEW. AEW doesn't need anymore badass tag teams to try to book but okay.

Brock's MSG opponent ended up being an offense-free Austin Theory leading into a Reigns beatdown on Brock.

NXT 2.0 is trying to find its way. The diverse array of good-looking young talent IS notable even if WWE taking away the best mega-indy in Murrica still hurts sometimes.

Terminus is a thing that exists post-ROH 1.0. I owe them some of my time at some point. I REALLY need to catch up on NJPW and the Japan indy scene. I'm guessing I'm missing hella goodies there too.

ROH is now owned by Tony Kahn. The tapes, damnit! Imagine how much goodness is on those tapes!

CYN has started doing shows. And the jokes are plentiful early on. For all we've said about AEW leaning too heavy on 'surprises' then not being able to live up to the innanet's wildest dreams (Cena, Brock, folks like that), I'm gonna get wild and say that Austin Aries can't be your 'check out our big surprise' to start, can it?

On AEW, if someone would've told me 5 years ago that a new Murrican wrestling company was gonna show up and end up with Jericho, American Dragon-style Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, any of the 3 members of the Shield, some of the gaijin from New Japan, some folks WWE didn't want anymore, indy folks who vary wildly in goodness, and some youngsters..many of whom have obvious skills and just need a shot, I would've signed off on it without thinking about it for long. And again, I keep admitting this..I would've never guessed that Punk being back on a wrestling show would be this obviously great but it totally is. That SOB is OVER over. And its not just people deciding to like him cuz of his aura or whatever. He's doing supreme work overall.

AEW, flaws and all, is an easy win for everyone who likes wrestling in general as long as you're not worried about getting taken out of Vince's will. Also, I keep saying this too but AEW will, somehow and someway, eventually make WWE better. They've already allowed/forced WWE to thin out their catering room and promo closets. 3 good months of AEW Miro being hossy and great > Rusev post tank entrance/losing to Cena, getting punished for getting Rusev Day over, and whatever that was with Lashley.

  

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Punk/MJF
Mar 06th 2022
1
Revolution Predictions
Mar 06th 2022
2
RE: Revolution Predictions
Mar 06th 2022
3
i cant predict whats in this idiots mind
Mar 06th 2022
5
lmao thanks for stopping by Erick Redbeard
Mar 06th 2022
4
great opener! then i have to look at Matt Jackson :( lol
Mar 06th 2022
6
that was....more enjoyable than I expected
Mar 06th 2022
7
      RE: that was....more enjoyable than I expected
Mar 06th 2022
8
           the ladder match is not for me
Mar 06th 2022
9
good lord @ Jade's gear
Mar 06th 2022
10
RE: good lord @ Jade's gear
Mar 06th 2022
12
      we're in the golden age of Jades existence on this earth
Mar 06th 2022
15
           RE: we're in the golden age of Jades existence on this earth
Mar 07th 2022
23
                in his post-Revolution presser, Tony Khan said Danielson is helping her
Mar 09th 2022
28
CM Punk, my prince
Mar 06th 2022
11
RE: CM Punk, my prince
Mar 06th 2022
13
Rosa-Baker pushed the ref heat too far
Mar 06th 2022
14
wow Regal showed up
Mar 06th 2022
16
Miseria Cantera!!!!!!
Mar 06th 2022
17
RE: Miseria Cantera!!!!!!
Mar 06th 2022
20
Moxley had his best match ever for the 2nd time in a month
Mar 06th 2022
18
RE: Moxley had his best match ever for the 2nd time in a month
Mar 07th 2022
22
Adam Cole isn’t cool
Mar 06th 2022
19
RE: Adam Cole isn’t cool
Mar 07th 2022
21
Might be my favorite AEW PPV that I've seen
Mar 07th 2022
24
Wardlow needed ladder match to get a TNT shot
Mar 07th 2022
25
WELP. We're getting KO vs. Shriveled Up Steve Austin
Mar 08th 2022
26
They’ve been wise enough to not call it a match
Mar 08th 2022
27
William Regal, what a ledge
Mar 10th 2022
29
Schiavone in tears got to me too
Mar 10th 2022
30
so unbelievably good at being on television
Mar 10th 2022
31
RE: William Regal, what a ledge
Mar 10th 2022
36
     
Mar 10th 2022
37
      i love 2point0 lol
Mar 11th 2022
40
Wardlow might be that dude for AEW
Mar 10th 2022
32
He’s as undeniable as Batista was, and being programmed just as well
Mar 10th 2022
33
Big Wardlow guy
Mar 10th 2022
34
RE: Wardlow might be that dude for AEW
Mar 10th 2022
35
Yup! I’m sure it was tempting to give this guy the RyBack push out of ...
Mar 10th 2022
38
Got Dynamite tickets for June
Mar 11th 2022
39
You’ll have a blast
Mar 14th 2022
45
aaaand a broken neck for Big E off a shit suplex from Ridge Holland
Mar 12th 2022
41
2 discs fractured, no surgery required thankfully.
Mar 12th 2022
42
      RE: 2 discs fractured, no surgery required thankfully.
Mar 14th 2022
43
           Or let it be only Orange Cassidy doing the CD
Mar 14th 2022
46
                RE: Or let it be only Orange Cassidy doing the CD
Mar 25th 2022
60
Scott Hall
Mar 14th 2022
44
Say good bye to The Bad Guy
Mar 14th 2022
47
RE: Say good bye to The Bad Guy
Mar 14th 2022
48
He changed Sting's career too
Mar 15th 2022
49
Rosa and DMD with another gotdamn banger.
Mar 17th 2022
50
so why does this weapons match "count" when last years didnt?
Mar 18th 2022
51
      RE: so why does this weapons match "count" when last years didnt?
Mar 18th 2022
52
           I wonder how much of that is her selling
Mar 18th 2022
53
Cody to WWE
Mar 18th 2022
54
Ok, Kevin Owens. You’ve got my attention.
Mar 22nd 2022
55
OK I'm sold on this.
Mar 22nd 2022
56
RE: OK I'm sold on this.
Mar 25th 2022
61
The glass breaking the second time is what really did it.
Mar 22nd 2022
57
So... Bret Hart to AEW?
Mar 22nd 2022
58
MJF interview on Ariel Helwani...so good (link)
Mar 25th 2022
59
RE: MJF interview on Ariel Helwani...so good (link)
Apr 01st 2022
72
NJPW coming to Washington D.C.
Mar 29th 2022
62
really appreciate this tip my guy
Mar 29th 2022
63
      Dynamite in Bmore on the 4th NJPW in DC on the 14th
Mar 29th 2022
64
Umar forgive me but Nikita Lyons is the future
Mar 29th 2022
65
Hey, remember the Prediction thing we used to do?
Mar 30th 2022
66
RE: Hey, remember the Prediction thing we used to do?
Mar 30th 2022
67
the 2 Adams might be the worst world title program ive ever seen
Apr 01st 2022
68
RE: the 2 Adams might be the worst world title program ive ever seen
Apr 01st 2022
69
but I havent done that lol
Apr 01st 2022
75
I wouldn’t go that far, but I’m surprised to see this program contin...
Apr 01st 2022
70
      It seems like they're spinning their wheels until they start...
Apr 01st 2022
73
      these "personal issues" of 2022...smh
Apr 01st 2022
76
Could it really not be Cody?
Apr 01st 2022
71
I could see them trying to pull of Shane, but it's probably Cody
Apr 01st 2022
74
What if its Vince?
Apr 01st 2022
77
Only other legitimate option is Wyatt. So I would say it’s gotta be CR
Apr 01st 2022
78
Punk wanted to laugh so bad at the Acclaimed
Apr 01st 2022
79
AEW signed Samoa Joe
Apr 01st 2022
80
RE: AEW signed Samoa Joe
Apr 01st 2022
82
ol TK just couldnt help himself
Apr 01st 2022
81
and on the last night of his career, Taker cuts the promo of his life
Apr 01st 2022
83
I only saw the part w/ Shad's wife and kid
Apr 02nd 2022
84
Has there ever been a more universally beloved wrestler
Apr 02nd 2022
85
100% accurate
Apr 02nd 2022
86
2 hours of schizophrenia to start NXT
Apr 02nd 2022
87
so is Carmelo going for the main NXT belt after this
Apr 02nd 2022
88
      i dont really watch the show
Apr 02nd 2022
89
Boogs tore his quad, Becky looks amazing, and Bianca intro
Apr 02nd 2022
90
Been dickriding AEW for so long I’ve forgotten just how fun Mania is
Apr 02nd 2022
91
fire match form Bianca and Becky
Apr 02nd 2022
92
If you’re gonna bet on yourself, be Cody Rhodes. Or Kirk Cousins.
Apr 02nd 2022
93
match feels that way too
Apr 02nd 2022
95
commentary is talking like Cody is late run Bob Backlund
Apr 02nd 2022
94
lol we got a Bionic Elbow
Apr 02nd 2022
96
lmao i wanted the pin right then and there
Apr 02nd 2022
98
Cody/Rollins , instant Mania classic
Apr 02nd 2022
97
yeah. that about covers it.
Apr 02nd 2022
99
RE: Cody/Rollins , instant Mania classic
Apr 03rd 2022
109
this was a very impactful group of HoFers for me
Apr 02nd 2022
100
I’ma need the Mania/Final 4 dual screen experience forever please than...
Apr 02nd 2022
101
I know KO cant believe his life rn
Apr 02nd 2022
102
he took a grade A asswhipping
Apr 02nd 2022
103
and bammas wanted him in AEW lol
Apr 02nd 2022
105
Man I remember when Austin was hyping “Killsteen” on his podcast.
Apr 02nd 2022
107
RE: I know KO cant believe his life rn
Apr 03rd 2022
111
      HHH has an internal defibrillator
Apr 03rd 2022
112
Umm…that was a great WWE show?
Apr 02nd 2022
104
yeah that was pretty damn good
Apr 02nd 2022
106
I didn’t really enjoy the 1st hour or so, but the rest more than made ...
Apr 03rd 2022
108
RE: Umm…that was a great WWE show?
Apr 03rd 2022
110
sami a legend for this asswhooping he just took loool
Apr 03rd 2022
113
after he saw owens he accepted the challenge
Apr 03rd 2022
114
Mcafee legit af O_O
Apr 03rd 2022
115
hes OVER over
Apr 04th 2022
129
That Jackass match is arguably the best celebrity Mania match ever
Apr 03rd 2022
116
Fatal Four Way was very good too. Everyone is bringing it this weekend
Apr 03rd 2022
117
McAfee/Theory > Edge/AJ … I said it lol
Apr 03rd 2022
118
youre not wrong. that was fucking awesome.
Apr 03rd 2022
120
no special intro for Roman is surprising
Apr 03rd 2022
119
This match has real juice. Let’s fuckin go.
Apr 03rd 2022
121
main event was just kind of a wet fart
Apr 03rd 2022
122
That just kinda is how it is when Brock and Roman face off
Apr 04th 2022
131
      Like I know it was the empty arena era, but there was so much more
Apr 04th 2022
133
           Great point
Apr 04th 2022
134
Good run for Roman. He’s made, and fully reinvented. Time to drop it.
Apr 03rd 2022
123
i say go w/ Rhodes before people get tired of him again
Apr 03rd 2022
124
It felt like they were just getting going
Apr 04th 2022
127
The signature/finisher spamming formula is tired as fuck
Apr 03rd 2022
125
If you’re this pleased before watching McAfee, just wait
Apr 03rd 2022
126
Pat McAfee is a G, that is all.
Apr 04th 2022
128
RE: Pat McAfee is a G, that is all.
Apr 04th 2022
132
Apparently I need to watch the Rollins match again
Apr 04th 2022
130
RE: Apparently I need to watch the Rollins match again
Apr 04th 2022
136
WWE’s video department deserves an Emmy for real
Apr 04th 2022
135
Cornette's cohost said it looked like they were on Splash Mountain
Apr 06th 2022
140
Wtf is this Ezekiel shit
Apr 05th 2022
137
Veer was awful too
Apr 05th 2022
138
Veer is India Edition Umaga
Apr 05th 2022
139
Bruce gotta Bruce
Apr 07th 2022
153
FTR goes hard af
Apr 06th 2022
141
Yes they fucking do
Apr 06th 2022
146
they gotta let up on the acclaimed
Apr 06th 2022
142
I totally disagree. I think The Acclaimed are near bulletproof
Apr 06th 2022
143
theyre already babyfaces tho.
Apr 06th 2022
145
      RE: theyre already babyfaces tho.
Apr 06th 2022
147
      banking on "fine later" is why the show sucks now tho
Apr 06th 2022
150
      I don’t think they are fucking around with them
Apr 06th 2022
149
           not intentionally
Apr 07th 2022
151
                RE: not intentionally
Apr 07th 2022
152
                ok, im gonna address these point by point
Apr 07th 2022
158
                Maybe not, but he’s letting them get themselves over
Apr 07th 2022
163
                but why cant they be on TV winning?
Apr 08th 2022
167
                     What exactly is the big issue if they’re still crazy over?
Apr 08th 2022
168
                          winning matches on TV aint "a push"
Apr 13th 2022
180
                I don't think it's going to be hard to get people to buy into them...
Apr 07th 2022
164
                     im having a hard time being succinct with my thoughts
Apr 08th 2022
166
                          FTR were midcard punching bags until they weren't anymore
May 05th 2022
212
I guess they’re just waiting for Bowens to get cleared for action agai...
Apr 06th 2022
144
      When I went to Dynamite, I was floored at their popularity
Apr 06th 2022
148
WALTER and Aichner apparently getting called-up to Smackdown
Apr 07th 2022
154
RE: WALTER and Aichner apparently getting called-up to Smackdown
Apr 07th 2022
155
Did they change his name back to WALTER?
Apr 07th 2022
156
It's Gunther. I'm just being an ass and refusing to acknowledge it
Apr 07th 2022
157
poor Marcel Marceau :(
Apr 07th 2022
159
Yeah, I have no idea what's going to happen to Barthel.
Apr 07th 2022
161
      i dont think either of them have value apart
Apr 07th 2022
162
I think he’s dropped too much weight
Apr 07th 2022
160
Kinda agree, but what’s most important is how Vince sees him.
Apr 08th 2022
165
It appears that Aichner is the odd man out
Apr 09th 2022
171
damn Yuta went from nothing to over af in a month
Apr 08th 2022
169
Bleedin till you pass out can get a dude over. Look at Stone Cold.
Apr 08th 2022
170
cmon now
Apr 11th 2022
175
That was some star-making performance
Apr 09th 2022
172
funny enough, im receiving this in the exact opposite way
Apr 11th 2022
176
      From what I understand, the Boston fans were NOT feeling...
Apr 11th 2022
177
           if they are altering the crowd for the TV presentation
Apr 11th 2022
178
                RE: if they are altering the crowd for the TV presentation
Apr 11th 2022
179
                     they need to get Tay and Anna back together
Apr 13th 2022
181
Just an incredible war of a match. But he needs to join their club.
Apr 09th 2022
173
they fit a 30+ minute match into like 12 minutes
Apr 09th 2022
174
by and large that was a pretty good episode of Dynamite
Apr 14th 2022
182
Only thing I out and out didn't like was the very end
Apr 14th 2022
183
I didn’t watch for a month or so
Apr 21st 2022
187
      “It’s complicated”
Apr 22nd 2022
188
           Lol @ home wrecker
Apr 22nd 2022
189
           TRIUMPH OF LOVE! BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!
Apr 22nd 2022
191
           They were definitely embracing it the other night
Apr 22nd 2022
192
                Yeah, the faces, the “haters” crap
Apr 23rd 2022
193
CM Punk is Pat McAfee over
Apr 20th 2022
184
RE: CM Punk is Pat McAfee over
Apr 20th 2022
185
its almost like trying to make it real makes it better
Apr 21st 2022
186
because now he can go out and work
Apr 22nd 2022
190
Finn Balor random hilarity
Apr 25th 2022
194
This Ezekiel shit is weird as fuck
Apr 25th 2022
195
baseless hunch: it's a slowburn that leads back to Elias
Apr 26th 2022
196
      Because that worked so well for Abyss
Apr 26th 2022
197
Dynamite highlight of the week:
Apr 29th 2022
198
if JR can wheel right by stuff that he thinks is silly so can Excal.
Apr 29th 2022
199
he hasnt earned that, for one thing
Apr 30th 2022
201
With all due respect to the man, JR isn’t doing much teaching these da...
Apr 30th 2022
200
      perhaps, but hes there to be spoken to at minimum
Apr 30th 2022
202
THIS was the promo I needed from Hangman
May 05th 2022
203
Also, Fenix vs. Dante was AWESOME
May 05th 2022
204
      I was there live for this last night, it was crazy!
May 05th 2022
205
           That’s fucking awesome n/m
May 05th 2022
210
           RE: I was there live for this last night, it was crazy!
May 05th 2022
211
Forbidden Door sells out in minutes
May 05th 2022
206
always
May 05th 2022
207
Wardlow got the Goldberg DLC pack
May 05th 2022
208
MJF has decreed he gets no ga-ga
May 05th 2022
209
Backlash
May 08th 2022
213
Edge, Bryan, CM Punk: Masters who really, truly, gave back
May 12th 2022
214
Damien Priest could become that dude IMO
May 12th 2022
215
RE: Damien Priest could become that dude IMO
May 12th 2022
216
      Jericho was priceless in the MJF segment
May 17th 2022
227
i cant understand the mentality behind
May 14th 2022
217
      I agree. I think even Mox is beneath him. But it’s what he wants to do...
May 14th 2022
218
      RE: I think even Mox is beneath him -- agreed
May 14th 2022
219
      If this is cooling off, then call me Mister Freeze.
May 14th 2022
220
           RE: If this is cooling off, then call me Mister Freeze.
May 14th 2022
221
           RE: If this is cooling off, then call me Mister Freeze.
May 16th 2022
224
           Yeah, Bryan is (and should be) considered above the TNT title
May 18th 2022
232
           it just all feels so non-essential
May 19th 2022
235
They could probably give Christian more to do?
May 14th 2022
222
They’re setting up a turn
May 15th 2022
223
Sasha Banks & Naomi left Raw over bad creative
May 17th 2022
225
Smells like a work but I kind of think its real
May 17th 2022
226
The WWE official statement sort of makes me feel like it's a work
May 17th 2022
228
the statement is hilarious
May 19th 2022
240
if its a work it's an irresponsible one
May 17th 2022
231
Storming out is great, and I hope more people do it, across the workforc...
May 17th 2022
229
I hear you, I think you had it worse than them actually though
May 17th 2022
230
RE: Sasha Banks & Naomi left Raw over bad creative
May 19th 2022
239
I finally went to a Dynamite!
May 19th 2022
233
Cosign all of this.
May 19th 2022
234
that was the best episode for me in a very long time
May 19th 2022
236
the crowd and Serena
May 19th 2022
237
      I had floor seats and the same/similar issue.
May 19th 2022
238
Justin Roberts is funny af right?
May 20th 2022
242
boy they buried the shit out of Sasha and Naomi
May 20th 2022
241

jimaveli
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1. "Punk/MJF"
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Of course this isn't the only callback/reference/nod/homage in this feud, but wow.

  

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AEW Championship: Hangman Page (c) vs. Adam Cole

Page. If this was like six months from now, I'd say Cole would a good person to take it off of him. But not now. AEW doesn't really do short World Title reigns, and I don't see them starting here.

Dog Collar match: CM Punk vs. MJF.

Everything is pointing to Punk. He lost (Twice!) to MJF in Chicago. He's had the shit kick out of him twice to MJF and the Pinnacle He was left bloody as fuck on Wednesday. This should be about Punk getting his getback. However... I can also see a world where Punk wants to make MJF the biggest heel in the business and have him beat him. I will say if MJF going over is the plan, then 1) MJF needs to name his kids after Punk and 2) Punk needs to put into the World Title picture immediately, because there's no where else for him to go. That said, I still expect it to be Punk, with an assist from Wardlow.

Bryan Danielson vs. Jon Moxley.

I can't call this one. I'm leaning towards Danielson, which I gotta imagine was the plan for that first time they were supposed to face each other. I really dope they pull the trigger on the two of them teaching violence.

Chris Jericho vs. Eddie Kingston.
Can't really call this one either. I can see it being Jericho, if they really want to twist the knife. But man, Kongston really hasn't won a "big" match of almost any sort since he got to AEW.

AEW Women's Championship: Britt Baker vs. Thunder Rosa.
It really should be Rosa. Ff Britt wins, it's an Asuka in NXT-type situation: she's cleaned out the entire division, and there's no one credible left for her to face (Hayter? Mercedes?) But the way they've been building it up, and with Rosa pinning him Wexnesday, I'm saying its Baker. Which means she should hold the belt for another six months.


Three-way Tag Team Championship: Jurassic Express (c) vs. The Young Bucks vs. reDRagon.
I think the match will be good, but I'm annoyed the champs are taking a back-seat to the Bucks/redDragon angle. I'd rather FTR be in there instead of the Bucks, and they win. That said, leaning towards Jurassic retaining, but wouldn't be surprised if reDragon wins. Bucks winning the titles back will be groan inducing.


AEW TBS Championship: Jade Cargill (c) vs. Tay Conti.
Jade. But, again, they're setting up a situation where there's no credible challengers down the line. So they need to inject new blood into the division.

Tornado Tag: Adrade El Idolo, Isiah Kassidy and Matt Hardy vs. Darby Allin, Samy Guevara and Sting.
The three-way on Rampage should have the match here. I really like that. This? Eh. Again, the champ is the backseat to the Andrade/Matt Hardy angle, and it's obvious where that's going. Sammy/Allin/Stng win.

Face of the Revolution Ladder match: Keith Lee vs. Powerhouse Hobbs vs. Ricky Starks vs. Orange Cassidy vs. Wardlow vs. Christian Cage.
They've been building up Wardlow for months, so it really should be him. Lee is the only other possibility, but they're setting him up to feud with Team Taz next. I honestly thought there was going to be a surprise seventh, but I guess not.

Preshow match: House of Black vs. Death Triangle
House of Black. Part of me would also guess that this would be a perfect place for Bray Wyatt to debut and help out the House of Black. But seems like a stretch to have a surprise debut on the pre-show.

Preshow match: Hook vs. QT Marshall.
Hook squash to get the crowd hyped. Maybe five minutes instead of his usual two-minute match.

Preshow match: Kris Statlander vs. Lelya Hirsch.
Hirsch, I guess.


Other surprises: No Jeff until later this week/next week, out of contractual issues. Maybe Wyatt (see above)? Maybe Gargano or Swerve Scott? Maybe Cesaro? Maybe Omega comes back after Page wins? Maybe... Cody? Things apparently aren't going so hot with him and the WWE. Obviously, it'll only be one debut and possibly one return, but just throwing stuff out there.

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3. "RE: Revolution Predictions"
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Sun Mar-06-22 06:56 PM by BrooklynWHAT

  

          

Cole vs Hangman: Hangman
Punk vs MJF: MJF via some fuckery interference
Bryan vs Mox: Mox. Bryan is going to make him do some wild shit to finish him off.
Eddie vs Chris: Dont know dont care lol
Tag match: ReDragon
Britt vs Thunder Rosa: Britt Baker
Jade vs Tay Conti: Jade
Revolution Ladder match: Wardlow
Tornado Tag: Sting team

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5. "i cant predict whats in this idiots mind"
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i can tell you who i think should win

Page
Rosa
ReDRagon
MJF
Sting & them
Kingston

and the ladder match shouldnt even be fucking happening. its shameful that they do this over and over again to cover up the fact that this moron doesnt know how to book, and its ridiculous that we have to see Wardlow/Hobbs/Lee get physical in this environment. Keith Lee is probably happy to just actually be on a PPV, and I dont blame him, but this isnt doing him any favors. i bitch about people winning matches, and they finally do it right with someone (Wardlow) and they blow his PPV match on this. each of the three big man should have a 6-8 minute asskicking instead of this. im legit annoyed

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4. "lmao thanks for stopping by Erick Redbeard"
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winners get over, losers dont.

why do that to him?

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6. "great opener! then i have to look at Matt Jackson :( lol"
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Nick has actually carved out a little space in my heart, but Matt is totally clueless.

my wife just said he reminds her of Steve Martin in "2 wild & crazy guys" from SNL

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7. "that was....more enjoyable than I expected"
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by kind of a lot

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8. "RE: that was....more enjoyable than I expected"
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>by kind of a lot

KOR is fucking excellent. He was the glue for the match to me. It was wonderful.

And this ladder match is supreme so far as well. This first hour has been straight up grand.

  

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9. "the ladder match is not for me"
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but thats okay. i didnt expect to like the tag match so im ahead of the game

KOR got me with the "i forgot!" lol

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10. "good lord @ Jade's gear"
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12. "RE: good lord @ Jade's gear"
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We’re in a golden age as far as attractive women wrestling.

  

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15. "we're in the golden age of Jades existence on this earth"
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she could go down as the GOAT if she keeps working and learning

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23. "RE: we're in the golden age of Jades existence on this earth"
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>she could go down as the GOAT if she keeps working and
>learning

And just think..it looks like they’re putting her around badass wrestlers and humans who dead seriously want to help her be great. She’s already better than a bunch of specimen types ever become. I’m excited for her. And she doesn’t have to carry a name around like Ashley/Charlotte did at first..even better.

  

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28. "in his post-Revolution presser, Tony Khan said Danielson is helping her"
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that's a PERFECT talent to lend a hand and exactly the kind of behind the scenes role I'd hoped he'd take on

  

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11. "CM Punk, my prince "
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13. "RE: CM Punk, my prince "
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>

With the preshow and the show so far, this is already a really good show. I’m almost out of capacity to watch more good stuff. And here comes fine ass Thunder Rosa vs DMD. Man wow.

  

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14. "Rosa-Baker pushed the ref heat too far"
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if theres no cage match at Double or Nothing im gonna be very disappointed

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16. "wow Regal showed up"
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17. "Miseria Cantera!!!!!!"
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20. "RE: Miseria Cantera!!!!!!"
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>

Punk is so wonderful. It’s getting to be hard to accept anyone but him being the main event in these shows. His self-awareness as well as understanding why his shit works when it works is something special. And AEW is smart enough to let him do his thing it seems.

  

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18. "Moxley had his best match ever for the 2nd time in a month"
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BD with more wizardry and i like it when matches end with clever wrestling moves more frequently than they have in AEW

that was great. a second match that was way better than I expected, and Regal got involved with the issue just in time.

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22. "RE: Moxley had his best match ever for the 2nd time in a month"
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>BD with more wizardry and i like it when matches end with
>clever wrestling moves more frequently than they have in AEW
>
>that was great. a second match that was way better than I
>expected, and Regal got involved with the issue just in time.

Bryan and Punk are AMAZING gets for AEW. They make vets like Jericho at least have to consider tightening their shit up. I mean look at Jericho physically now. Different human. And what he did with Eddie tonight was beautiful. Christian doesn’t need to be pressed to be good but he was a glue guy in the ladder match tonight and who knows what he’s doing that we don’t see around there.

Anyway, Bryan and Punk help button up the show and I love them for it. Being in the ring with either one means you’re gonna do something that makes sense and is good af. They validate AEW’s need to exist. I keep trying to think about them not being around and I basically can’t. What in the fuck would these people be doing? Indies that most of us wouldn’t see? Sit in catering in wwe? Wait to job in a 6-minute nothing match somewhere on a wwe show? I mean really…what would Bryan be doing right on with mania a month out? And how excited would you be to see him wrestle Corbin?

This Revolution show was almost overwhelmingly good for the most part. They had to have some cool off matches and even most of those worked. Jade is on the way and she’s easy to appreciate even tho they took a huge chance putting her in their with Conti, who is also a work in progress. Thunder and Britt are dope enough to be trusted in a spot where they couldn’t go all out. And Sting is hardcore Terry Funk now for some reason and I like it. The other matches were meant to be good azz matches fo sho and mostly achieved. The main event might’ve been the weakest of the matches that weren’t ‘bridge’ matches and it was still solid work even if it was a bit desperate to validate itself as the main.

  

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19. "Adam Cole isn’t cool"
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21. "RE: Adam Cole isn’t cool"
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His coolness is conditional. He needs help like Munn-Ra needs the ancient spirits of evil.

He’s a rock solid worker but that’s not enough even in a rasslin-centric environment like AEW.

I think seeing him standing next to the Bucks and him being notably smaller hurt him out of the gate too.

He wrestles like he’s been told that he’s super little a lot. So there’s gonna be like 15 super kicks and 6 ‘this could be the finish’ sequences. It’s great that he’s in shape enough to do that shit without blowing up. It’s less great that his matches go 5 minutes too long sometimes because he’s gotta get it in. It’s the same thing some don’t like about the Bucks to me.

His job tonight was to put Page over by losing at his own type of match. He did that and well.

I wonder what the plan is to get the belt off of Page and who is next. I’m running out of reasons to think it’s cool for anyone other than Punk to be the champ/main event. I can’t imagine they aren’t thinking the same thing and figuring out how to do it. Punk was making ‘belt around waist’ motions tonight so maybe something is coming.

  

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24. "Might be my favorite AEW PPV that I've seen"
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I haven't seen all of them, but I was extremely impressed by this. First three matches were pretty much non-stop action, and hey, I really liked the ladder match. The Dog-Collar was a lot more methodical, but it hit all the right notes, and the ending was perfect.

Jade Cargill keeps getting better, and they kept things short, as they needed to. I kind of rolled my eyes at Baker winning, but I understand the move. They're now clearly it up so that Thunder Rosa beats Hirsch and then beats Baker in San Antonio for the re-match.

The Texas Tornnado was a total car crash, but I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. And the Moxley/Danielson match was fucking awesome, and the arrival of Regal was the biggest "OH SHIT!" moment in quite a while. Him sonning both of them post-match and making them shake hands put a smile on my face. Great get for AEW.

The Cole/Page match wasn't the best of the night, as the result was never really in question, but I'd say they both over-delivered. And I imagine that Page/Punk at the next PPV is going to be awesome.

So, yeah, pretty damn awesome night for wrestling.

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25. "Wardlow needed ladder match to get a TNT shot"
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Every other challenger just had to……… show up?

PPV was great, a little long and that penultimate match was a lot. Maybe figure out how to go from Mox to the Maine event without so much goin on.

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26. "WELP. We're getting KO vs. Shriveled Up Steve Austin"
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It's been WAY WAYYYYYYY too long for Austin. And like, I get it, if Owens isn't going to challenge for a title at Mania at least he gets to be the guy to protect the old guys when they take their big bow. And there's a lot of trust in that. But cmon.

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27. "They’ve been wise enough to not call it a match "
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I hope he just gives out a few stunners and leaves

  

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29. "William Regal, what a ledge"
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the idea that BD/Mox are the split chromosome of William Regal is just such good shit. Moxley represents Regal's demons, Danielson represents the elite ability. God I love that.

Also, lowkey popped at Regal calling Danielson "the perfect professional wrestler". WOW.

  

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30. "Schiavone in tears got to me too"
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That was a perfect promo.

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31. "so unbelievably good at being on television"
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i dont think i even blinked while he was talking

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36. "RE: William Regal, what a ledge"
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>the idea that BD/Mox are the split chromosome of William
>Regal is just such good shit. Moxley represents Regal's
>demons, Danielson represents the elite ability. God I love
>that.
>
>Also, lowkey popped at Regal calling Danielson "the perfect
>professional wrestler". WOW.

Yeah. I popped. In fact, my 'allergies' were killing me during that whole thing.

Kingston had my allergies acting up for his part with Jericho (I hate that new Jericho faction name and all unless it leads to Garcia eventually getting over and away from 2.0).

Regal had my allergies acting WAY up! He fucked Tony up bad too!

I remember the days where I was just turned out by 90s All Japan. And making CAWs on the early 2000s wrestling video games had me all tied out on 'cool movez'. Since that time I've calmed down and had to appreciate that some good talking to get the point across is a big deal too.

Regal, in one lengthy shot, made that BD/Mox/Regal pairing seem like one of the most badass/long-time coming/mandatory things I've seen in a while. I have no idea where they take it but I know I'm gonna have to get me some Flonase if they keep on with these legendary promos/explanations.

  

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37. ""
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It’s literally the merger of Inner Circle leftovers and 2.0

  

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40. "i love 2point0 lol"
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they have more personality than a vast majority of the rest of the field

2point0, The Acclaimed, FTR, Santana & Ortiz, ReDRagon, Darby & Sting

thats the core im interested in tag wise.
the Bucks and Lucha Bros have gotten boring, and Top Flight already does their stuff better than they do. everyone else are basically the Conquistadors.

Moxley and BD can be in there too but im afraid they would end up running thru the other 6 at maximum warp.

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32. "Wardlow might be that dude for AEW"
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a major, ticket-selling star that permanently takes them out of college basketball arena equivalents and into NBA arena equivalents

the patience and restraint done here compared to just about everything else is hilarious. crazy what just winning matches over and over can do!

and then...this dude is LIKABLE! they kept a microphone out of his hand for 2.5 years until it was time for the babyface promo of the year. incredible.

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33. "He’s as undeniable as Batista was, and being programmed just as well"
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I assume MJF costs Wardlow the TV title opportunity next week and then their program is on. And the specter of CM Punk still looms over all. This is a legitimately perfect comic book arc type of story where nothing ends it just evolves and morphs into something new.

  

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34. "Big Wardlow guy"
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Love the restraint theyve shown too.

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35. "RE: Wardlow might be that dude for AEW"
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>a major, ticket-selling star that permanently takes them out
>of college basketball arena equivalents and into NBA arena
>equivalents
>
>the patience and restraint done here compared to just about
>everything else is hilarious. crazy what just winning matches
>over and over can do!
>
>and then...this dude is LIKABLE! they kept a microphone out
>of his hand for 2.5 years until it was time for the babyface
>promo of the year. incredible.

It was so good.

Sometimes wrestling works because the people in roles are awesome moreso than any kind of amazingly planning and/or booking. Here, it felt like both. Now, I want Wardlow to be a champ of some kind within the next year.

He was great in the ladder match that Corny couldn't bring himself to watch because he hates Orange so much. It was WWE-style ladder match booked but it made sense, the idea of the big dudes being the highlight over the crazy folks who were gonna take bumps was a good call too.

On Orange, I loved the spot where he flipped up did the pull-up to get over the ladder. He had his 'oh shit' face-making game together too. And you know I loved it when Keef Lee threw him for the 'Orange isn't interrupting these 3 big men anymore' spot. Loved it.

Booking kudos for having MJF and Punk steer clear of eating a lot of TV time this week. It gave Wardlow a chance to breath and shine. Also, I love the idea that a big crazy PPV match that had a long build should have physical and mental consequences. More wrestling shows need to do that more often. The whole 'man, after that match..I'm gonna need a couple of weeks be ready to go again' stuff works on me. I don't expect Steamboat Mania 3 speech therapy after every big match but give me something!

  

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38. "Yup! I’m sure it was tempting to give this guy the RyBack push out of ..."
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>the patience and restraint done here compared to just about
>everything else is hilarious. crazy what just winning matches
>over and over can do!

But they let him build a real presence before he got a proper push and a conclusion to the MJF relationship. Really well done.

  

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39. "Got Dynamite tickets for June"
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Their first time in LA and my first time going to the Forum. I'm pumped.

  

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That’s a big show for them too given the city and venue

  

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41. "aaaand a broken neck for Big E off a shit suplex from Ridge Holland"
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the cherry on top of the shit sundae of how his title run was handled.

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42. "2 discs fractured, no surgery required thankfully."
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This stinks though.

  

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43. "RE: 2 discs fractured, no surgery required thankfully."
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>This stinks though.

I hope he doesn't have any extra complications.

I also hope all wrestling companies use this injury as an excuse to audit what moves they allow people to do and where they're allowed.

We're already at least on the verge of being out of hand with apron-related moves. And some of these 'on the floor' deals are kinda wild too.

I fine if wrestling takes a step back on the 2000 CAW suplexes for a bit. So then, maybe just maybe, when someone eats a suplex, it can be sold more seriously without having to be a damn burning hammer.

And like American politicians love to do, let me slide in now with some kind of 'quit doing Canadian destroyers' thing. Or make it to where like 2 people per company can do them and its gotta be a finisher.

  

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magilla vanilla
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46. "Or let it be only Orange Cassidy doing the CD"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms5BgzcPVb4

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60. "RE: Or let it be only Orange Cassidy doing the CD"
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms5BgzcPVb4

This is ridiculous!

Orange reminds me so much of Chicago Maxwell. CM was over like rover at the indy show I saw him at the weekend of Mania 32 in Dallas.

And he was amazing at the 'yelling out a move' like he was about to really blow everyone's mind and then he'd do the most absurdly simple move instead. And the crowd, of course, would still sell it. Good foolish midcard fun. Maxwell would also do moves from the bottom rope because of course he would. I got his schtick like 2 minutes into a 15 minute match and everything he did worked because the crowd decided in unison to let it work. And it was fine. I view Orange in a similar way.

Even more wild, I kinda view these types of wrestler how I remember ECW RVD vs WWF RVD. ECW RVD was basically 100% spots and routines with outrageous amounts of posing, resting, and bullshitting in between. Bad punches. Stiff/borderline unsafe kicks. Super athletic. Then WWF forced him to fill in some blanks / find a better way to rest and it was fine. If him and Sabu don't get caught with the weeds, there's no telling how long he gets to be a champ there.

  

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44. "Scott Hall"
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2022/03/14/wwe-hall-famer-scott-hall-razor-ramon-life-support/7037697001/

In duh news, Razor Ramon was the shit. Scott Hall showing up on WCW being all weird about why he was there? Also awesome. And what it led to? Wow.

Less awesome was all of his health issues and demons stuff but the Diamond Stud damn sure had his days..that's no lie.

From my limited experience with this, life support removal is usually a bad deal, but I have seen people come out of it and live. We'll see.

C'mon man. He's 63.

  

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47. "Say good bye to The Bad Guy"
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Swiping this page is a pain in the ass form my phone. But here’s the link

https://sports.yahoo.com/wwe-legend-scott-hall-dies-at-63-001542879.html

This one hurts. Scott was a huge presence for my/out generation. childhood and teenage years. He’s going to get his due in a big way as one of the more significant figures in the history of the business.

Razor was an incredibly cutting edge character, one I believe would still hold up in todays climate.

But Scott Hall, the on screen persona, was perhaps the most pivotal game changer that would serve as the pivotal catalyst for the biggest boom the business has ever seen.

We’d all seen guys show up in other companies, but that shit hit different. It’s a moment that, truth be told, can inly really happen once.

Truly one of the gods of this shit and I feel a genuine sadness.

I can’t wait for the mountain of retrospectives we’re going to get. He’s going to be so fondly remembered for what he brought to the table, and it’s going to be so well deserved.

I don’t want to hear word one about his demons for a minute. I just want to hear the celebrations.

  

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48. "RE: Say good bye to The Bad Guy"
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The good stories are already plentiful. It’s good to see even at a bad time.

Swiping this page is a pain in the ass form my phone. But
>here’s the link
>
>https://sports.yahoo.com/wwe-legend-scott-hall-dies-at-63-001542879.html
>
>This one hurts. Scott was a huge presence for my/out
>generation. childhood and teenage years. He’s going to get
>his due in a big way as one of the more significant figures in
>the history of the business.
>
>Razor was an incredibly cutting edge character, one I believe
>would still hold up in todays climate.
>
>But Scott Hall, the on screen persona, was perhaps the most
>pivotal game changer that would serve as the pivotal catalyst
>for the biggest boom the business has ever seen.
>
>We’d all seen guys show up in other companies, but that shit
>hit different. It’s a moment that, truth be told, can inly
>really happen once.
>
>Truly one of the gods of this shit and I feel a genuine
>sadness.
>
>I can’t wait for the mountain of retrospectives we’re
>going to get. He’s going to be so fondly remembered for what
>he brought to the table, and it’s going to be so well
>deserved.
>
>I don’t want to hear word one about his demons for a minute.
>I just want to hear the celebrations.

  

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49. "He changed Sting's career too"
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Considering he was the guy that wised Stinger up to The Crow.

I remember like yesterday when he debuted in WWF. The vignettes were awesome, and then he comes out . . . and people were booing? I remember looking over at one of my friends that I was watching with like "what the hell are they booing? This guy's great!"

Dude was one of a kind.

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50. "Rosa and DMD with another gotdamn banger. "
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Story ended the way it needed to, and I was about to shake my head at the tacks until they proved to be Rosa's escape from the Lockjaw. Just really great comeuppances for Britt the whole finishing sequence.

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51. "so why does this weapons match "count" when last years didnt?"
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why would anyone construct up a 2 bedroom ranch home with chairs in a fight instead of just repeatedly hitting someone with one of them?

why have a cage match if you arent going to have Reba out there wailing and rending her garments while Britt Baker gets her ass beat?

why have a cage match without a ceiling while your announcer talks someone trying to get counted out?

as Jim Cornette would say, this was a hat on a hat.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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52. "RE: so why does this weapons match "count" when last years didnt?"
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>why would anyone construct up a 2 bedroom ranch home with
>chairs in a fight instead of just repeatedly hitting someone
>with one of them?
>
>why have a cage match if you arent going to have Reba out
>there wailing and rending her garments while Britt Baker gets
>her ass beat?
>
>why have a cage match without a ceiling while your announcer
>talks someone trying to get counted out?
>
>as Jim Cornette would say, this was a hat on a hat.

Sometimes it’s fine. And Cornette knows he’s been in on some hat on a hat stuff in his day too.

The crowd was down with this match too so it worked out. I wonder how Thunder will do as champ. Sometimes she can work a little loose for my taste. IE: sometimes she’ll do a slam and look shoot tired while doing it. That type of stuff always scares me.

It IS interesting to hear Jim Ross obviously adjusting his announcing some weeks around things that Cornette complains about. I know there’s no fun in companies taking negative input to heart and trying to do a little better in spots but it’s happening sometimes.

  

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53. "I wonder how much of that is her selling"
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> IE: sometimes she’ll do a slam
>and look shoot tired while doing it. That type of stuff always
>scares me.

For example she looked SHOT on that power bomb near the end. But was fresh as a daisy for the Thunder Fire Driver. I wonder if she was trying to sell how much of a war that match was but still make the finish clean as hell.

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54. "Cody to WWE"
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Is allegedly confirmed now. Now it’s just a matter of when they have him show up to disaster kick Rollins or whatever.

>Wrestling is ongoing.
>
>AEW Revolution is tonight. I shall watch and hope I don't let
>myself get burned out by the few car crash matches they have
>planned. I'm AMPED for at least half the card so that's a good
>sign. Sensible dinners Jericho vs Peanut Butter Pie Kingston
>has me excited and I keep forgetting about it. That's another
>sign of a pretty heavy-handed card for these folks.
>
>https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10028539-updated-2022-aew-revolution-match-card-ahead-of-ppv
>
>WWE's Mania is about a month away and trying to come together
>around Charlotte/Rousey, Becks/Belair, and Roman/Brock Part
>17. I've been looking back at some old manias and lawd
>hammercy..there's some rancidly bad ones in between some
>sneaky great ones that stand up TIL THIS DAY. And even some of
>the ones that are labelled as 'good' are 2 or 3 good azz
>matches surrounded by some pretty pointless 'cool yourselves
>off until the next good thing' stuff.
>
>Nobody really knows what's up with Cody.
>
>Cesaro is out in the wild now too allegedly.
>
>Jake Something (decent rassler from Impact) is allegedly not
>at the tapings today.
>
>Jeff Hardy is coming to AEW. AEW doesn't need anymore badass
>tag teams to try to book but okay.
>
>Brock's MSG opponent ended up being an offense-free Austin
>Theory leading into a Reigns beatdown on Brock.
>
>NXT 2.0 is trying to find its way. The diverse array of
>good-looking young talent IS notable even if WWE taking away
>the best mega-indy in Murrica still hurts sometimes.
>
>Terminus is a thing that exists post-ROH 1.0. I owe them some
>of my time at some point. I REALLY need to catch up on NJPW
>and the Japan indy scene. I'm guessing I'm missing hella
>goodies there too.
>
>ROH is now owned by Tony Kahn. The tapes, damnit! Imagine how
>much goodness is on those tapes!
>
>CYN has started doing shows. And the jokes are plentiful early
>on. For all we've said about AEW leaning too heavy on
>'surprises' then not being able to live up to the innanet's
>wildest dreams (Cena, Brock, folks like that), I'm gonna get
>wild and say that Austin Aries can't be your 'check out our
>big surprise' to start, can it?
>
>On AEW, if someone would've told me 5 years ago that a new
>Murrican wrestling company was gonna show up and end up with
>Jericho, American Dragon-style Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, any of
>the 3 members of the Shield, some of the gaijin from New
>Japan, some folks WWE didn't want anymore, indy folks who vary
>wildly in goodness, and some youngsters..many of whom have
>obvious skills and just need a shot, I would've signed off on
>it without thinking about it for long. And again, I keep
>admitting this..I would've never guessed that Punk being back
>on a wrestling show would be this obviously great but it
>totally is. That SOB is OVER over. And its not just people
>deciding to like him cuz of his aura or whatever. He's doing
>supreme work overall.
>
>AEW, flaws and all, is an easy win for everyone who likes
>wrestling in general as long as you're not worried about
>getting taken out of Vince's will. Also, I keep saying this
>too but AEW will, somehow and someway, eventually make WWE
>better. They've already allowed/forced WWE to thin out their
>catering room and promo closets. 3 good months of AEW Miro
>being hossy and great > Rusev post tank entrance/losing to
>Cena, getting punished for getting Rusev Day over, and
>whatever that was with Lashley.

  

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55. "Ok, Kevin Owens. You’ve got my attention."
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This is bloody brilliant
https://youtu.be/OFR-jt6mJjU

And watching some of those people in the crowd…wow…what a reminder that there’s still some people out there watching this stuff who are NOT in the know

  

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56. "OK I'm sold on this. "
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Like I KNEW Owens would make chicken salad out of the chicken shit hand he consistently gets dealt. But man, this far eclipses even Shawn doing that Hulk Hogan segment.

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61. "RE: OK I'm sold on this. "
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>Like I KNEW Owens would make chicken salad out of the chicken
>shit hand he consistently gets dealt. But man, this far
>eclipses even Shawn doing that Hulk Hogan segment.

I watched that Shawn shit a few months ago and was especially entertained. Shawn killed that shit.

Owens got me with this too. Earth knows Stone Cold is gonna whoop his ass! I mean...really! He's gonna eat it! With that, Kevin's job is to make sure he earns every bit of that asswhoopin. Last Monday, he locked it the fuck in. That crowd was PISSED when the glass broke the 2nd time and there was no Austin.

It is obviously going to be fun even if it is kinda short/not a wrestle kingdom main event. Even if Steve is wild enough to try to do even a 8 or 9 minute thing where he gives a little offense to Owens and they can do it safely? Maaaaaaaaaaaaan! Even better!

  

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57. "The glass breaking the second time is what really did it."
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58. "So... Bret Hart to AEW?"
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It certainly seems like that's what they're setting up: him coming back to manage a face FTR.

AEW could certainly do a lot worse than have both Regal and Bret mentoring the young guys in the back, along with Arn and Tully.

Speaking of which, the one guy who's really suffered on screen from Cody bouncing is Arn. The only thing they have to do for him is manage Lee Johnson and Brock. They should probably turn them heel. Maybe have him and Tully "take over" the Nightmare Factory from QT. Or reunite the Brainbusters and go after the belts (joking of course; they both probably draw SSI checks at this point).

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59. "MJF interview on Ariel Helwani...so good (link)"
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this kid is sharp

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mjf+ariel+helwani

  

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72. "RE: MJF interview on Ariel Helwani...so good (link)"
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>this kid is sharp
>
>https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mjf+ariel+helwani

Yeah, this shit is a masterpiece early and often. I’ve seen lots of it but finishing it now.

I love love love love love 1000 times love that he’s pointing out how silly it is for tribal/lazy fans to act like changing wrestling companies is some kind of crime against humanity. It happened a lot in the 80s and early 90s and I’m in my 40s so maybe it’s just simple to me? I don’t know. I remember enjoying it tho..especially seeing it when folks would change characters. Ie: I saw Taker and was immediately like ‘oh shit, it’s Mean Mark! Heart punch somebody damnit!’. Or when Ted DiBiase popped up rich, I was like ‘okay? Ted got his money somehow!? Aight.’.

  

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62. "NJPW coming to Washington D.C."
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May 14th

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63. "really appreciate this tip my guy"
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EDIT:

yo, if anyone is within 100 miles of this venue you should go. This venue is so conducive to pro wrestling. This is where I saw Dynamite

  

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64. "Dynamite in Bmore on the 4th NJPW in DC on the 14th"
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Hoping we get to see some forbidden door shit coming up since these dudes will be in the US. Both venues are great for wrestling. I’ll be at both.

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65. "Umar forgive me but Nikita Lyons is the future"
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all black gear suits her so well

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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66. "Hey, remember the Prediction thing we used to do?"
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Well me and a couple friends are running one for Mania that involves money!

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCw6uKmF_MkEFACS7hSSr7Qm8MPZux08np0UYtWxNfG3uWDg/viewform

We have match bets AND prop bets combined (I'll list the prop bets in a reply).

Every entry is $10 and you can do as many as you want. Entries AND payments are due by Friday, April 1st at 9pm EST (start of the HOF ceremony).
Send your payment via Venmo: @micktacular

Payouts are:
Winner: 60%
2nd Place: 30%
3rd Place: 10%

I'll share the size of the pool once it locks.

Good luck! Share with anyone you think would play.

  

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67. "RE: Hey, remember the Prediction thing we used to do?"
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PROP BETS:

1) How many times will the 24/7 Championship change hands during the show?
2) Who will be the 24/7 Champion at the end of night 2?
3) Will the bell ring in the Stone Cold Steve Austin and Kevin Owens "in-ring confrontation"
4) Does Cody Rhodes show up?
5) Will The Undertaker get physical?
6) Will Vince McMahon get physical?
7) Will Paul Heyman get physical?
8 ) Will Vince McMahon cry during his speech inducting The Undertaker into the Hall of Fame?
9) Which match will be the longest?
10) Which match will be the shortest?

  

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68. "the 2 Adams might be the worst world title program ive ever seen"
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booker of the year!

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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69. "RE: the 2 Adams might be the worst world title program ive ever seen"
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>booker of the year!

It’s not good for reasons that appear obvious to most: Cole is damaged goods and Page is too far behind Bryan and CM Punk to a degree that it makes his strengths matter a lot less.

But c’mon now. Anyone who has watched a decent amount of rasslin in even the last 25-ish years can name some brutal title programs…even some with big as hell names.

  

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75. "but I havent done that lol"
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i lapsed from 2000-2019

which is why some of this stuff looks so silly to me. i assume they stopped pretending it was real a little bit at a time over 2 decades, but i went straight from point A to point Z

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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70. "I wouldn’t go that far, but I’m surprised to see this program contin..."
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It was one of the least interesting programs heading into Revolution, and the match was fine, but I figured they’d move on to something else. Hangman needs to get in a program with someone who’s gonna push his promo skills to the next level. Not that Cole is bad on the mic at all, but this “I was the best Adam in our group of friends 5 years ago” shit is NOT it.

  

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73. "It seems like they're spinning their wheels until they start..."
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...the program with Punk. Having weekly TV and quarterly PPVs makes running a three-month program a little difficult. Sustaining a face vs. face feud for that long is an extremely tricky needle to thread.

It seems like they're back to having Punk fight every week. I'd rather they let Page do a series of one-two week programs until they decide to pull the trigger. Like, they went through the trouble to extend Brian Cage, and he's technically the last person to beat Hangman, so they could start by milking a week or two out of that.

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76. "these "personal issues" of 2022...smh"
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overly sensitive dorks dont know how to credibly act like badasses with animosity towards each other

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71. "Could it really not be Cody?"
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Rollins has a mystery opponent. Earth thinks it’s Cody. I think they’ll have a couple of fake ones then it’ll end up being Cody in full Homelander gear with his song and all of that.

R truth. Santino. Gillberg. These types of folks. Maybe Shane comes out to say ‘oh, it’s not me, it’s this guy’ and then it’s Cody.

Im horrified about how badly this could go. If it’s Cody and he wins straight up and strong, folks will say ‘boring. We saw it coming. And what about poor Rollins..who I now love dearly and deeply all of a sudden’. If it’s Cody and he loses straight up and strong, yikes…he’s dead on arrival unless his revenge is ridiculous cuz he starts some badass group or something.

I guess they could do a non-finish too.

If it’s Cody and this is a one night thing, what a wow that could be. Damnit, now that’s kinda what I want. One night, result doesn’t matter, and then he does a summer of just showing up places. Damnit! I tell folks all the time to quit trying to book shows. But here I am.

>Wrestling is ongoing.
>
>AEW Revolution is tonight. I shall watch and hope I don't let
>myself get burned out by the few car crash matches they have
>planned. I'm AMPED for at least half the card so that's a good
>sign. Sensible dinners Jericho vs Peanut Butter Pie Kingston
>has me excited and I keep forgetting about it. That's another
>sign of a pretty heavy-handed card for these folks.
>
>https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10028539-updated-2022-aew-revolution-match-card-ahead-of-ppv
>
>WWE's Mania is about a month away and trying to come together
>around Charlotte/Rousey, Becks/Belair, and Roman/Brock Part
>17. I've been looking back at some old manias and lawd
>hammercy..there's some rancidly bad ones in between some
>sneaky great ones that stand up TIL THIS DAY. And even some of
>the ones that are labelled as 'good' are 2 or 3 good azz
>matches surrounded by some pretty pointless 'cool yourselves
>off until the next good thing' stuff.
>
>Nobody really knows what's up with Cody.
>
>Cesaro is out in the wild now too allegedly.
>
>Jake Something (decent rassler from Impact) is allegedly not
>at the tapings today.
>
>Jeff Hardy is coming to AEW. AEW doesn't need anymore badass
>tag teams to try to book but okay.
>
>Brock's MSG opponent ended up being an offense-free Austin
>Theory leading into a Reigns beatdown on Brock.
>
>NXT 2.0 is trying to find its way. The diverse array of
>good-looking young talent IS notable even if WWE taking away
>the best mega-indy in Murrica still hurts sometimes.
>
>Terminus is a thing that exists post-ROH 1.0. I owe them some
>of my time at some point. I REALLY need to catch up on NJPW
>and the Japan indy scene. I'm guessing I'm missing hella
>goodies there too.
>
>ROH is now owned by Tony Kahn. The tapes, damnit! Imagine how
>much goodness is on those tapes!
>
>CYN has started doing shows. And the jokes are plentiful early
>on. For all we've said about AEW leaning too heavy on
>'surprises' then not being able to live up to the innanet's
>wildest dreams (Cena, Brock, folks like that), I'm gonna get
>wild and say that Austin Aries can't be your 'check out our
>big surprise' to start, can it?
>
>On AEW, if someone would've told me 5 years ago that a new
>Murrican wrestling company was gonna show up and end up with
>Jericho, American Dragon-style Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, any of
>the 3 members of the Shield, some of the gaijin from New
>Japan, some folks WWE didn't want anymore, indy folks who vary
>wildly in goodness, and some youngsters..many of whom have
>obvious skills and just need a shot, I would've signed off on
>it without thinking about it for long. And again, I keep
>admitting this..I would've never guessed that Punk being back
>on a wrestling show would be this obviously great but it
>totally is. That SOB is OVER over. And its not just people
>deciding to like him cuz of his aura or whatever. He's doing
>supreme work overall.
>
>AEW, flaws and all, is an easy win for everyone who likes
>wrestling in general as long as you're not worried about
>getting taken out of Vince's will. Also, I keep saying this
>too but AEW will, somehow and someway, eventually make WWE
>better. They've already allowed/forced WWE to thin out their
>catering room and promo closets. 3 good months of AEW Miro
>being hossy and great > Rusev post tank entrance/losing to
>Cena, getting punished for getting Rusev Day over, and
>whatever that was with Lashley.

  

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74. "I could see them trying to pull of Shane, but it's probably Cody"
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My neighbor said it should be Veer Mahaan. It would turn him into the biggest heel in the WWE.

I do think there'll be a couple of fake outs. I'd say they should do the whole, "It's huge start that we signed from away from another company!" and then send out Marko Stunt. But Rollins has already made that joke.

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77. "What if its Vince?"
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He's pissed Rollins stood on his desk.

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78. "Only other legitimate option is Wyatt. So I would say it’s gotta be CR"
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79. "Punk wanted to laugh so bad at the Acclaimed"
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80. "AEW signed Samoa Joe"
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they have to be using ROH as an actual show cause they have way too many damn people

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82. "RE: AEW signed Samoa Joe"
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>they have to be using ROH as an actual show cause they have
>way too many damn people

They do have a slew of folks. Clearly some of these people won’t/can’t get signed again/extended. But if they’re going to try to make two good azz feds that can occasionally get some things wildly right, sounds good to me. I don’t need every segment and/or match to rival Bret/Austin. Just get it right often enough for me to trust that you CAN get it right. My ffwd button is my real mvp.

Its wild to think back to the time where wwe was ‘the bloated roster’ company (they’re still struggling to get all of the desirable folks onto a 2-day show), TNA had pretty much ruined its shots, and New Japan and NXT were running hot. And that was like 5 years ago.

ROH having any kind of improved visibility and consistency is potentially good times.

  

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81. "ol TK just couldnt help himself"
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Keith Lee and Will Hobbs 2 months too early, on a friday, in a complete clusterfuck

heel gets a visual pin over the babyface, and then they beat the shit out of him

why am i supposed to want to see more of this?

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83. "and on the last night of his career, Taker cuts the promo of his life "
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I know he’s gotten really involved with his wife’s church in Texas, turns out he’s got a preacher’s cadence. What a pro.

  

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84. "I only saw the part w/ Shad's wife and kid"
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it honestly feels like years since he passed out in that rip current

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85. "Has there ever been a more universally beloved wrestler "
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Than Taker?

He's the only guy nobody shits on in shoots

Nobody speaks about him in terms that are less than glowing.

Everyone who ever talks about him, does so with the utmost respect

I've never heard any "but...." or "except.." statements with him.

That was arguably the greatest pop I've ever seen. I don't know what equals it, let alone tops it.


  

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86. "100% accurate"
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And Vince was right - there’s never been anyone more deserving of the HOF

Keeping in mind how adored he is…random but , something I’ve always been curious about is DDP talking about just how much heat he had with Taker in the early 2000s. The more I hear the boys put over Taker effusively the more I’m convinced DDP must have been a jerkoff (and I’m a DDP mark admittedly)

If you wanna know the kind of guy Taker is in real life consider how he handled Hogan trying to bury his first title run. When Taker was promoting that documentary I can’t remember what outlet he told the story to, but it’s basically that coming out of their Survivor Series match Hogan sold the Tombstone backstage for weeks and blamed it for neck and spine pain. The video shows Taker’s knees clearly hitting the mat and protecting Hogan , and to make matters worse Taker confronted Hogan about it and Hogan denied he was in shoot pain …although Taker knew Hogan had been saying otherwise to Vince. Taker then realized what was going on, that Hogan was being his usual bitchass self, and rather than make a mess of the situation he just took his medicine and accepted the short title reign. Apparently this went a long way in cementing Taker’s reputation in the locker room.

  

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87. "2 hours of schizophrenia to start NXT"
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but Gunther and LA Knight is my flavor of ice cream

60 seconds in and its the best thing on the show already

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88. "so is Carmelo going for the main NXT belt after this"
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or to the main roster. cause while i get the story w/ this Grimes dude w/ his dad, he is not champ material

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89. "i dont really watch the show"
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i just happened to see it on Peacock and turned it on. then Peacock fucked me halfway thru the main event because I paused to go put the baby to sleep and when the event ended i lost the time i was behind. all those 3/4/5/ man fuckfests i sat thru and then i missed the end of Ziggler and Steiner.

i saw Grimes' thing with Dibiase and LA Knight a while back but thats all i know about him

i will say he looks like a goof without his beard, and Carmelo and the Polynesian dude looked a cut above the rest of them today

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90. "Boogs tore his quad, Becky looks amazing, and Bianca intro "
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was sick af. mania night 1 summary thus far

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91. "Been dickriding AEW for so long I’ve forgotten just how fun Mania is"
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I’m sure by this time tomorrow I’ll be fatigued. But just seeing pageantry of this sort is always a blast, I’d forgotten.

  

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92. "fire match form Bianca and Becky"
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93. "If you’re gonna bet on yourself, be Cody Rhodes. Or Kirk Cousins. "
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But the point is, he left and really did make himself important. That should be commended regardless of how you feel about him.

  

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95. "match feels that way too"
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this is fucking awesome

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94. "commentary is talking like Cody is late run Bob Backlund"
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i can hear Lapsed Vince over a headset

"Say that he has been away from...legitimate ***competition***. Make sure you say word competition. SAY IT!"

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96. "lol we got a Bionic Elbow "
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98. "lmao i wanted the pin right then and there "
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97. "Cody/Rollins , instant Mania classic"
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Goddamn

  

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99. "yeah. that about covers it."
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that fake pedigree chicken wing powerbomb makes me laugh every time (in a good way)

just great stuff all the way around

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109. "RE: Cody/Rollins , instant Mania classic"
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>Goddamn

Those sobs proved their worth. That match was snug and physical and it had the right feeling to it. And Cody loved being loved again. Wow. Two pros having a pro match. They took some real chances and landed basically everything. The one thing they missed..it made sense that they missed it. Just wow.

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100. "this was a very impactful group of HoFers for me"
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the first PPV event i ever went to was when Undertaker beat Hogan for the belt in 1991. even tho i knew he was mean mark callous in a costume, he transcended that burden in a way that kevin nash was never able to. Nash was always Vinny Vegas to me to some degree.

Vader-Sting was a defining feud of my childhood, second only to Flair-Sting. and he was the last monster heel that scared me thru the TV. The matches they had were life and death to me, and he was a unique threat because of all the atuff he could do athletically.

The Steiners...I dont even know where to start. The first time I saw Rick Steiner in his University of Michigan varsity jacket on TBS as a member of the Varsity Club i became a fan for life. The things they were doing were absolutely mind blowing to me, tossing motherfuckers around like sacks of potatoes at the perfect pace. The way they wrestled, to me, was the speed limit of pro wrestling. It was all so god damned REAL, and they did it all in Maize and Blue.

i couldnt imagine pro wrestling without any of these people

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101. "I’ma need the Mania/Final 4 dual screen experience forever please than..."
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102. "I know KO cant believe his life rn"
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main eventing mania vs SCSA

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103. "he took a grade A asswhipping"
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one of the best ive ever seen

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105. "and bammas wanted him in AEW lol"
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Guy probably makes 2 Ms a year and just worked Austin in the Mania main event in Dallas

  

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107. "Man I remember when Austin was hyping “Killsteen” on his podcast. "
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For that to be the guy to bring him out of retirement. Man.

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111. "RE: I know KO cant believe his life rn"
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>main eventing mania vs SCSA

Yes! He was one of the right ones for this job. He earned that ass whoopin with his mouth and then bumped around like the fucking pro he is. I’m glad he got picked for this spot. He deserved this. Him and Sami did a good job with Bryan when came back too.

And Steve? Oh Steve. It looks like he got in good shape and he easily took enough bumps to make it all work. I feel lucky to have seen this return. It’s cool to see a great one still around and willing to do something like this. And he didn’t look blown up either. I love that he respected it all enough to try to ‘dress up’ that asswhoopin. I hope Haitch eventually gets to do one of these.

  

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112. "HHH has an internal defibrillator"
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i dont see how that could ever work, from a medical, or at minimum an insurance/liability perspective

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104. "Umm…that was a great WWE show?"
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Am I wrong?

I was so thoroughly entertained by almost that entire show from end to end. The sequencing was superb. That was quintessentially Wrestlemania - from the entrances, to the Savage/Steamboat-esque Rollins and Cody match, to a surprise heel win with Charlotte, to the feel good Austin/KO main event. If you don’t think that was good TV we probably don’t have much in common.

If they’d just put Lesnar/Reigns on at the end of this it’d be talked about like one of the great Manias.

  

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106. "yeah that was pretty damn good"
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i missed the Charlotte/Ronda match which i don't really care about either of them. but Bianca/Becky, Rollins/Cody and Austin/KO delivered

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108. "I didn’t really enjoy the 1st hour or so, but the rest more than made ..."
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Cody/Seth was my favorite of the night, but SC/KO and Becky/Bianca were a close 2nd and 3rd. I guess Charlotte/Ronda exceeded my expectations, but that’s not saying much. I’m just not into either character at this point.

I figured we’d get a real match with Austin given that it was headlining, but it went way longer that I thought (that’s a good thing) and Steve took more offense than I thought he would.

  

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110. "RE: Umm…that was a great WWE show?"
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>Am I wrong?
>
>I was so thoroughly entertained by almost that entire show
>from end to end. The sequencing was superb. That was
>quintessentially Wrestlemania - from the entrances, to the
>Savage/Steamboat-esque Rollins and Cody match, to a surprise
>heel win with Charlotte, to the feel good Austin/KO main
>event. If you don’t think that was good TV we probably
>don’t have much in common.
>
>If they’d just put Lesnar/Reigns on at the end of this
>it’d be talked about like one of the great Manias.
>
>

I’ve been saying this all morning: night one as is can stand as a really good mania. The stuff that was supposed to be excellent was *cuss word of your choice* excellent.

And for all of my asshole worrying, the Cody shit went off excellently.

  

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113. "sami a legend for this asswhooping he just took loool"
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114. "after he saw owens he accepted the challenge"
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115. "Mcafee legit af O_O"
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129. "hes OVER over "
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116. "That Jackass match is arguably the best celebrity Mania match ever"
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As a gimmick match, this was rare Mania air IMO

It largely depends on how you qualify “gimmick match”, I suppose, because I’m not putting it over the OG TLC or Edge/Foley.

But it’s one of those matches that hit every note it was supposed to and needed to.

By all rights, it should have been a bullshit filler match. But they told a fantastic stony that added pitch-perfect levity to the weekend.

  

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117. "Fatal Four Way was very good too. Everyone is bringing it this weekend"
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This is a high bar for Mania already. I’m just now starting AJ/Edge, which I expect to be fantastic.

  

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118. "McAfee/Theory > Edge/AJ … I said it lol"
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This Mania has been an end to end blast.

When Pat McAfee is doing more than Edge and AJ Styles the game is screwed up. Their match was fine but started off awfully indulgent - not sure whose idea it was to open with a mat clinic. Ended well though.

But Pat McAfee is over like rover. Wow!

  

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120. "youre not wrong. that was fucking awesome."
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119. "no special intro for Roman is surprising"
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121. "This match has real juice. Let’s fuckin go."
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122. "main event was just kind of a wet fart"
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felt like there was another 8-10 mins in that match that was needed

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131. "That just kinda is how it is when Brock and Roman face off"
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>felt like there was another 8-10 mins in that match that was
>needed

I actually had the same feeling I had 4 years ago: let’s just get this over with. Their characters are the best they’ve ever been and the story was the best it’s ever been, and still, by the time the bell rang I couldn’t care less. I really don’t know what it is. On paper, it’s a genuinely exciting matchup, but it seems like the air kinda leaves the room whenever they face off.

  

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133. "Like I know it was the empty arena era, but there was so much more"
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story there when Roman had the match with Cesaro. The shit talking, stalking around, it was all perfect. And I know you lose all that nuance with the crowd there and Brock's a different type of opponent. But surely some of that character work could have gone in there.

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134. "Great point"
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I’m sure it’s tough to keep some of that nuance when you’re fighting a guy who is always a bull in a China shop, but I do think he was generally better at it during the thunderdome era.

  

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123. "Good run for Roman. He’s made, and fully reinvented. Time to drop it."
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They’ve done what they set out to do with Roman Reigns. He’s the guy. As cool as Batista, as over as Cena, and a better performer than both. Well done.

That said, he’s at the end of the road of this current run. He needs to fire Heyman or the Usos need to turn on him or something.

That match kind of ended with a thud. Those guys have worked a half dozen times now, and while they don’t need to do much because they’re so over this one wasn’t distinct from the others. Don’t promise me “the biggest match ever” and do what you’ve always done. Should’ve been No DQ. Great back and forth action then a thud of an ending. Fine, but Reigns/Lesnar will not be in the Top 5 of memorable moments from an overall “stupendous” weekend, that’s a surprise and a missed opportunity.

Possibilities are endless where Reigns goes next. We’ve yet to get the proper McIntyre/Reigns feud…sign me up, it’ll be great whenever it happens. Also, stunned to be saying this, but Cody will never be as over as he is now - Reigns v Rhodes, two guys with elite family pedigrees? That wouldn’t suck either.

But it’s time to mix it up. Hell I’d be into Reigns dropping it TOMORROW. Strike while the iron is hot.

  

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124. "i say go w/ Rhodes before people get tired of him again"
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127. "It felt like they were just getting going"
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>That match kind of ended with a thud. Those guys have worked a
>half dozen times now, and while they don’t need to do much
>because they’re so over this one wasn’t distinct from the
>others. Don’t promise me “the biggest match ever” and do
>what you’ve always done. Should’ve been No DQ. Great back
>and forth action then a thud of an ending. Fine, but
>Reigns/Lesnar will not be in the Top 5 of memorable moments
>from an overall “stupendous” weekend, that’s a surprise
>and a missed opportunity.

The spear-to-kimura counter should have had some consequences. Instead it was just a spot for Brock to do his purple psycho face and Roman to have a moment of doubt, before he hit one more spear to win it. Did he even get the guillotine on Brock?

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125. "The signature/finisher spamming formula is tired as fuck"
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8 spears and 12 germans or whateverthefuck isn’t the way

Knees to the ribs
Elbows to the face
A massive flurry of hard punches
Powerbombs

They could do the same match and just sub in most of those superman punches, spears, and suplexes, this would match be improved by miles.

It was cool. It had the big match feel, but it didn’t deliver on that promise. Reigns, Brock and Paul all told a great story with their expressions and reactions. I hope that doesn’t get lost in the sea of video game spam moves. They delivered in droves on that front.

But this was an amazing Wrestlemania. Truly one of the best I can remember. Everyone delivered a strong performance, with very few exceptions.


*I still havent seent he McCafee match and the New Day match, since I got a late start.

But those aside, this was an excellent Mania. I have no interest in a direct comparison to other Manias. I do know that, top to bottom, this was enjoyable, fun and engaging af a high level. My complaints are minimal.


Everyone brought their A game.

  

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126. "If you’re this pleased before watching McAfee, just wait"
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McAfee makes Bad Bunny look like Great Khali. (And Bad Bunny was good!)

  

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128. "Pat McAfee is a G, that is all."
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132. "RE: Pat McAfee is a G, that is all."
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>

The drinking a beer post-stunner gif alone should keep him employed by WWE for a loooooong time.

https://twitter.com/tommy_endless/status/1510818256201912321?s=21&t=38WSlnPFawQbwGSVpSkUNQ

  

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130. "Apparently I need to watch the Rollins match again "
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I was in the company of some bozos so I was a tad distracted.

Either im a mark (for certain) or Brock and Roman were both hurt and that is why the ending sorta just happened. Thoughts?

Overall I thoroughly enjoyed it and goddamn seeing Austin was fun.


Next PPV were getting more Logan Paul and hopefully more McAfee, that dude had 80 thousand people on the White Stripes chant before he was half to the ring.....incredible.

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136. "RE: Apparently I need to watch the Rollins match again "
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>I was in the company of some bozos so I was a tad
>distracted.
>
>Either im a mark (for certain) or Brock and Roman were both
>hurt and that is why the ending sorta just happened.
>Thoughts?
>
>Overall I thoroughly enjoyed it and goddamn seeing Austin was
>fun.
>
>
>Next PPV were getting more Logan Paul and hopefully more
>McAfee, that dude had 80 thousand people on the White Stripes
>chant before he was half to the ring.....incredible.

I was traveling so I ended up watching the 2 night mania in 3 sittings instead of 2. I’m pretty confident that something went wrong in the Reigns/Lesnar main and they had to go home early. They’re both too good to have planned that match as it went. Or at least I want to think so. That or someone was hurt going in. Whatever, I want to know what they go with next.

Cody killed the opening on Raw but I wonder how they’re planning to proceed. Or if they might have to fuck around and pull the trigger if Reigns is hurt and/or the crowd takes to Cody stronger than they expected.

  

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135. "WWE’s video department deserves an Emmy for real"
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Not only was the camerawork and editing really crisp all weekend, they even found a way to make Vince’s stunner sell look awesome in the retrospective!

  

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140. "Cornette's cohost said it looked like they were on Splash Mountain"
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i about died

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137. "Wtf is this Ezekiel shit"
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Elias is taylor made for a ultra return pop. Start the show with the lights blacked out, hit the guitar twang, and we’re printing money already. They just needed to let him actually wrestle and get a push in the ring cause he was already organically over as fuck

Man I hope he asked for this change cause otherwise I would’ve resigned if this was forced on me.

This is like Bray Wyatt coming back as Husky Harris or some stupid ass shit

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138. "Veer was awful too "
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139. "Veer is India Edition Umaga"
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153. "Bruce gotta Bruce"
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It's amazing because Mania was SHOCKINGLY devoid of gimmicky bullshit. It was a bust-ass wrestling show- even the celeb spots were all centered around hustle. But then we go back to the weekly shows and out comes the Prichard-Brand Boolshit.

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141. "FTR goes hard af"
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146. "Yes they fucking do"
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>

And not surprisingly, babyface FTR rules. They know how the shit works. Their catalog of badass matches continues to expand. And if this face run goes right, we’re about to have hella fun.

And the Bucks showed mountains of ass for them tonight. I get that there’s a lot of hate on those guys. And Cornette can’t bash them enough on his stuff. But I don’t know these guys or have a prior biz history with them so maybe I’m missing it? I get that they spam shit a bit when they’re in lazy Muta mode but they generally do a good job with landing elaborate spots and being in the right place FAST to make complex shit look simple. And they’re in shape enough that they rarely ever come off sloppy. And clearly, The Bucks can be so good when they know they have to. Vs FTR, you’re an asshole if you show up half-stepping. The bucks get that so we got a wonderful gift tonight with a crowd that looked amped as hell to be getting it in person.

Whenever someone tries to claim to be really good at tag team wrestling, FTR should show up via Hardy-style portal and whoop their ass on-sight. And hell, they’re kinda on their expedition of gold shit right now so it kinda checks. AEW needs to get the tag titles onto the Acclaimed when Bowens is healthy again so FTR can do them in after a long reign. Or maybe the other way around. Get some transitional heel champs, let FTR beat them, then he’s the Acclaimed get made when they do some bullshit to beat FTR.

IMAGINE MAX CASTER RAPS WITH THE ACCLAIMED AS CHAMPS.

The crowd sounded HOT tonight on Dynamite. That’s for sure. We’re going on a week here where Murrican rasslin is somewhere around on its best behavior. Wwe was in spectacle mode and created a shitload of moments. Other feds tried to lay down some damn good rasslin. Wow. I’ve enjoyed so much stuff. And I still have some catching up to do. I still haven’t seen nxt or all of Briscoes/FTR for instance.

  

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142. "they gotta let up on the acclaimed"
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i know its a quasi-compliment to get booked to do a job for Joe on TV, but why does it always have to be the acclaimed? this should have been Joe pummeling shawn spears or something.

even better, have castor pummel shawn spears and let my guy the captain take that premium jabroni spot vs joe.

...

as i type this the Captain has just pinned Shawn Spears (dvr). fuck yeah. i want a Dean/Wardlow vs MJF/Spears tag match. shawn dean won me over during his pandemic run on Dark and id like to see him have a mini run leading to a TNT title match.

...

as i type THAT jade comes out running down mma losers. im in love.

...

AS I TYPE THAT MJF HAS CALLED OUT THE CAPTAIN AND BELITTLED HIS SERVICE. Sometimes this show gets it so right with just the basics...and then usually follows it up with a tables match for no reason.

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143. "I totally disagree. I think The Acclaimed are near bulletproof"
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They get their asses kicked every week, come out the next week even cockier than before, and it’s somehow believable and they still get the crowd hyped. I think there’s an organic face turn on the way where the crowd loves them so much they’ll eventually get behind them. Maybe throw in a beatdown by bigger heels and they’re ready to go. I think Tony knows all this and is letting it all build slowly.

  

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145. "theyre already babyfaces tho."
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lovable losers who can't beat anyone, unfortunately. there are so few people who can really talk, that the live AEW audiences are always going to react positively to them. at that point they can be faces that lose, faces that win, or heels that win. heels that lose to highly regarded faces on TV all the time arent even heels, theyre just jabronis.

there usually no benefit to beating the people who could really get over. like, really over. the roster is teeming with people who will *never* be over, so why fuck around?

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147. "RE: theyre already babyfaces tho."
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>lovable losers who can't beat anyone, unfortunately. there
>are so few people who can really talk, that the live AEW
>audiences are always going to react positively to them. at
>that point they can be faces that lose, faces that win, or
>heels that win. heels that lose to highly regarded faces on
>TV all the time arent even heels, theyre just jabronis.
>
>there usually no benefit to beating the people who could
>really get over. like, really over. the roster is teeming
>with people who will *never* be over, so why fuck around?

I get it. But it’s gonna be fine. Everybody loves the Acclaimed. When the trigger gets pulled, it’s going to work.

And again, MAX CASTER RAPS AS A CHAMPION = PARTYTIME.

  

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150. "banking on "fine later" is why the show sucks now tho"
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MJF was fine after chris Jericho too, but were any of our lives enriched in the moment?

i would submit that they were not lol

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149. "I don’t think they are fucking around with them"
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And I don’t agree that their babyfaces. People love hearing the entrance and seeing their swagger, but that’s because it’s paired with them getting their asses kicked by the Samoa Joes of the world. Their time will come, and it will be even sweeter when it does because we saw this part of the journey. They’re gonna be just fine.

  

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151. "not intentionally"
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i just dont think the person in charge of getting people over knows how to get people over

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152. "RE: not intentionally"
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>i just dont think the person in charge of getting people over
>knows how to get people over
>

The boo bird posse section of the internet can't wait to complain in the moment as things are happening and, of course, 'the future of everything related to that wrestler is doomed' if any random segment on a weekly show isn't exactly on-point vs some expectation.

In reality, this 2-day Mania went well by most reasonable accounts and barometers. The complaining all the way up to it that most of us were a part of ended up not really mattering because the show was fun to watch and mostly delivered on what WWE tries hardest to do: spectacles and moments.

Current example: Wardlow is doomed as he keeps inching closer to getting his hands on MJF or someone in MJF's remaining crew. He made Spears lose a match. So he's getting there. But oops, he's not getting there quickly enough and/or it doesn't look the same as Brock looks when he interacts with security or whatever, so it apparently sucks horribly and is burying him per the Cornette type of rasslin media.

With some of these 2022 'if its not what I think it should be RIGHT NOW, its sucks and I don't know how it can be fixed without time travel' barometers, let's see...

Stunning Steve Austin is always hurt and could never get over enough in WCW. He never moved the needle even though he was a decent worker. Midcarder for life. And he was getting carried by Pillman and Steamboat anyway.

Steve Austin was a sellout for leaving ECW. They gave him a gig when nobody wanted him.

The Ringmaster is a stupid gimmick and Austin is doomed. MDM isn't big enough at this point to give anyone a rub anyway.

Everyone involved in that Pillman/Austin angle is doomed forever.

Steve Austin losing to Bret at Mania 13 'buried him' cuz Bret basically kicked his ass. Austin isn't a true babyface so the crowd isn't going to buy him in that role if WWF is dumb enough to try to have him there. Hogan was so much more over and sold more merch than Austin has so far. 3:16 was cool but that was a while ago.

Having Mike Tyson involved in Mania 14 took the focus off of Stone Cold's win. Boo celebrities. And the Mania 14 match wasn't good enough to cement that Austin was the man anyway. *some other match* was way better. And HBK's title run didn't draw enough for him to be a big enough deal to give anyone a rub anyway. AND he's hurt!? This is all terrible.

The Rock is cool I guess but he's not a big enough star to give Austin a rub at Mania 15.

Rock/Austin? Again for Mania 17? They just wrestled at Mania 15. WWF has no new ideas ever!

Also, Austin isn't as physically impressive as Hogan and he didn't immediately draw as much so he sucks and WWE is incapable of making any new staaaaa.....

  

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158. "ok, im gonna address these point by point"
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>The boo bird posse section of the internet can't wait to
>complain in the moment as things are happening and, of course,
>'the future of everything related to that wrestler is doomed'
>if any random segment on a weekly show isn't exactly on-point
>vs some expectation.

i dont need any of that. they should just be winning matches. universal truth since the beginning of fake fighting is that winning makes you successful, losing makes you a loser. getting beat to death on TV has never made anyone more popular. ever.

>In reality, this 2-day Mania went well by most reasonable
>accounts and barometers. The complaining all the way up to it
>that most of us were a part of ended up not really mattering
>because the show was fun to watch and mostly delivered on what
>WWE tries hardest to do: spectacles and moments.

i agree. ive said as much in this post how much I enjoyed major swaths of the weekend.

>Current example: Wardlow is doomed as he keeps inching closer
>to getting his hands on MJF or someone in MJF's remaining
>crew. He made Spears lose a match. So he's getting there. But
>oops, he's not getting there quickly enough and/or it doesn't
>look the same as Brock looks when he interacts with security
>or whatever, so it apparently sucks horribly and is burying
>him per the Cornette type of rasslin media.

it did make him look like kind of a goof tho, and you can see that last night they went completely the opposite direction of that. so on some level even THEY knew it wasnt a great look. that or they figured it out during the company listening party when the Experience came out.

but youre building a bit of a strawman here, especially because Wardlow broke thru by following the universal truth i mentioned above. he has charisma and he won a bunch of matches, so now hes getting over for real

>With some of these 2022 'if its not what I think it should be
>RIGHT NOW, its sucks and I don't know how it can be fixed
>without time travel' barometers, let's see...

youre assigning me a role based on a very lazy generalization. its inconsistent television that sucks sometimes. making that statement should not be controversial in any way.

>Stunning Steve Austin is always hurt and could never get over
>enough in WCW. He never moved the needle even though he was a
>decent worker. Midcarder for life. And he was getting carried
>by Pillman and Steamboat anyway.

this does not seem to be a parallel to what we are talking about in any way lol.

>Steve Austin was a sellout for leaving ECW. They gave him a
>gig when nobody wanted him.



>The Ringmaster is a stupid gimmick and Austin is doomed. MDM
>isn't big enough at this point to give anyone a rub anyway.

all that was true right up until they threw it in the trash and turned the whole thing upside down. its disingenuous to frame it this way considering the radical nature of the fix.

>Everyone involved in that Pillman/Austin angle is doomed
>forever.

no one ever said that

>Steve Austin losing to Bret at Mania 13 'buried him' cuz Bret
>basically kicked his ass.

no one said that, and the reason no one said that is because it was good. when the show is good no one thinks about stuff like that

>Austin isn't a true babyface so the
>crowd isn't going to buy him in that role if WWF is dumb
>enough to try to have him there. Hogan was so much more over
>and sold more merch than Austin has so far. 3:16 was cool but
>that was a while ago.

again...it was good so no one said that. you cant pretend there is any parallel to 1997 because the quality levels are just too disparate.

>Having Mike Tyson involved in Mania 14 took the focus off of
>Stone Cold's win. Boo celebrities. And the Mania 14 match
>wasn't good enough to cement that Austin was the man anyway.
>*some other match* was way better. And HBK's title run didn't
>draw enough for him to be a big enough deal to give anyone a
>rub anyway. AND he's hurt!? This is all terrible.

again, youre comparing things that were good to things that were terrible and pretending that people thought the good things were terrible at the time.

>The Rock is cool I guess but he's not a big enough star to
>give Austin a rub at Mania 15.
>Rock/Austin? Again for Mania 17? They just wrestled at Mania
>15. WWF has no new ideas ever!

what is going on here? lol

we've gone about 25 miles past the point of reasonable comparison.

>Also, Austin isn't as physically impressive as Hogan and he
>didn't immediately draw as much so he sucks and WWE is
>incapable of making any new staaaaa.....

how is this in any way pertinent to me saying the acclaimed need to win matches?

everyone you mentioned was winning matches on television, even when the gimmicks were stuck in the sand. none of them got over losing on TV once or twice a week for months at a time.

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163. "Maybe not, but he’s letting them get themselves over"
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>i just dont think the person in charge of getting people over
>knows how to get people over
>

They’re on TV entertaining the hell out of people and wrestling good matches. I’m not gonna argue wins and losses don’t matter, but they don’t matter nearly as much as solid TV time, which they get plenty of. AEW has a TON of people with amazing records but little TV time (Abadon, Gunn Club,etc.), and no one cares about them. People LOVE The Acclaimed and I don’t see their losses burying them in the least. Sure, that obviously can’t go on forever, but I have no reason to believe it will. The reason they’re on TV all the time is cause Tony is behind them. Their push is coming, and until it does I’m along for the ride.

  

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167. "but why cant they be on TV winning?"
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why not The Acclaimed beating the Butcher and the Blade Wednesday instead of that wretched tables match?

they are making people care in spite of their booking, but the booking is trash. its an obstacle for them rather than a step up to the next tier.

AEW uses the insider knowledge of their core fanbase as a crutch and both the show and much of the talent is worse off for it. "regular people" see 6-7 weeks of losses in a row and say "oh this guy must really be a loser", not "man when the booker finally pushes these guys this wont matter."

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168. "What exactly is the big issue if they’re still crazy over?"
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>why not The Acclaimed beating the Butcher and the Blade
>Wednesday instead of that wretched tables match?
>

Not everyone can get a push at the same time dude. If they were winning but not getting a title shot, you would be even more frustrated. Right now, they’re keeping their push on ice, but keeping the characters over until they have a spot for them at the top of the tag division. What’s wrong with that?

And the reason Caster is currently in this role of losing to guys like Samoa Joe and Keith Lee, is they want the debuts for those guys to have an impact. If their debuts were throwing around Fuego deal Sol for 2 minutes, no one would care.

"regular people" see 6-7 weeks of losses in a row and
>say "oh this guy must really be a loser", not "man when the
>booker finally pushes these guys this wont matter."

Where’s your evidence of this? This is a problem that you have completely imagined and are getting all worked up about for absolutely no reason. Just enjoy the entertainment they bring until they get their push. If it doesn’t happen, I’ll eat my words, but I’m 99% sure I’m right on this.

  

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180. "winning matches on TV aint "a push""
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>Not everyone can get a push at the same time dude. If they
>were winning but not getting a title shot, you would be even
>more frustrated. Right now, they’re keeping their push on
>ice, but keeping the characters over until they have a spot
>for them at the top of the tag division. What’s wrong with
>that?

youre telling me about how i would feel in a completely fabricated scenario? cmon lol. to the point, winning matches on TV isnt "a push". winning matches on TV is how you make sure you actually HAVE something to push when you want to do it.


>And the reason Caster is currently in this role of losing to
>guys like Samoa Joe and Keith Lee, is they want the debuts for
>those guys to have an impact. If their debuts were throwing
>around Fuego deal Sol for 2 minutes, no one would care.

thats not true at all tho. keith lee pounded on some nobody his first time out, and it was the best debut AEW has had. you cant have it both ways, where Joe needs to beat someone important, but its also okay for Max to be losing twice a week on TV. he didnt do anything a bunch of other people havent done, so whats the impact?

> Where’s your evidence of this? This is a problem that you
>have completely imagined and are getting all worked up about
>for absolutely no reason. Just enjoy the entertainment they
>bring until they get their push. If it doesn’t happen,
>I’ll eat my words, but I’m 99% sure I’m right on this.

what do you mean "evidence"? unless im severely misunderstanding the point of having predetermined sporting events on TV, thats like the core philosophy. winners and losers are chosen before the match because the booker wants people to respond to the participants in certain ways.

and you say completely imagined but ol' Corny had something to say about this a few days after i posted that while he amd his cohost made the exact same complaints i did:

"A loser's a loser. And they are establishing that Max Castor comes out and entertains everybody for 45 seconds verbally, and then gets beat. And thats gonna ruin their tag team because when the other guy comes back people are gonna say oh there he is partnered with that loser Castor. They're booking this 'Oh its all entertainment so who gives a shit?'. And for the set number of people who watch this program every week, they dont, but others would, and that why they're not watching."

so...doesnt really seem like something I imagined. seems more like a very basic premise that is just being ignored by the booker of the year because its easier to pretend it's not true and cater to the minute audience that got so "smart" that theyll accept dumb.

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164. "I don't think it's going to be hard to get people to buy into them..."
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...as mega-faces once they decide to flip the switch on them.

For example, take Will Hobbs. He spent most of summer 2020 in the jabroni role on Dark. Then he gets put into the Casino Battle Royale at All Out 2020, looks like a monster, and a few weeks later he's scheduled into the main even of Dynamite (got cancelled due to Archer getting COVID). Then he gets inserted into the feud with one of the guys who carried the federation during the pandemic.

Or, for a more immediate (and different type) of example, look at FTR. I know Cornette has dedicated 20 minutes of every podcast for the last nine months to complain about how they're being misused because they don't have the titles and an additional 15 minutes complaining how they're being buried if they lose a match. Then two or three weeks ago they dump Tully and essentially turn face by default. Then, last Friday, they beat the Briscoes in what's already being called one of the all-time great tag matches. Then, last night. they roll into Dynamite as one of the most over teams in the division, with the crowd firmly behind, and deliver another all-time great match. And beat the Bucks in fairly humiliating fashion to boot. And this is week after being used as props to advance the MJF/Wardlow feud.

The crowd will easily accept the Acclaimed. Even last night, he wasn't treated like Cassidy was in the match with Keith Lee. They showed Joe essentially doing the Mourning gif in real time during the pre-match rap. They'll be fine.

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166. "im having a hard time being succinct with my thoughts"
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but the essence is that we have to constantly keep in mind that this is all fake to be able to look past the presentation of them as ineffectual losers, and that sucks.

the story they are telling me is that Max Castor is an undercard punching bag, and i cant muster up any enthusiasm for undercard punching bags. if thats not the story, then why tell it? im not gonna do their work for them, and when its only gonna be fine because i know this shit is fake and someday the finishes will go another way...thats bad.

ive been posting about the acclaimed for almost a year and a half now, and even *I* am starting to lose interest.

and yes, their devoted 800k will absolutlely accept the acclaimed. but my wife went from dancing with the baby to their entrance to peeking her head out from the kitchen when she hears it to ask me who theyre losing to tonight, and she represents a much larger potential crowd.

as far as FTR, Cornette thinks about their potential value to AEWs business and i dont really think there is a counterargument to what he says, unless keeping the aforementioned 800k is the only thing that matters.

finally, you bring up Will Hobbs and then later mention the way Keith Lee handled Cassidy...who beat Will Hobbs twice. its hard to justify that.

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212. "FTR were midcard punching bags until they weren't anymore"
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148. "When I went to Dynamite, I was floored at their popularity"
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154. "WALTER and Aichner apparently getting called-up to Smackdown"
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I don't know if they're just ditching Barthel and they're the new version of Imperium, or if WALTER is going to get a singles push. Regardless, WALTER needs to be a fucking star. I really hope that creative doesn't mess with things further. He's already dropped some weight, but the name change and the reduction of him doing chops is a bit troubling. He's even harder to fuck up than Keith Lee, so I'm he gets the right push.

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155. "RE: WALTER and Aichner apparently getting called-up to Smackdown"
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>I don't know if they're just ditching Barthel and they're the
>new version of Imperium, or if WALTER is going to get a
>singles push. Regardless, WALTER needs to be a fucking star. I
>really hope that creative doesn't mess with things further.
>He's already dropped some weight, but the name change and the
>reduction of him doing chops is a bit troubling. He's even
>harder to fuck up than Keith Lee, so I'm he gets the right
>push.

I am hoping like hell WALTER shows up, kicks someone’s ass, and they repeat that for several weeks with occasionally decent opponents who challenge him sometimes.

  

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156. "Did they change his name back to WALTER?"
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Or is it still Gunther?

  

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157. "It's Gunther. I'm just being an ass and refusing to acknowledge it"
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They're also using a new, more generic and synthetic rip-off of his theme music. Which also kinda sucks.

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159. "poor Marcel Marceau :("
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161. "Yeah, I have no idea what's going to happen to Barthel."
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Do they bother keeping him around NXT 2.0 to see if he has any value putting over the younger guys? Or does he get future endeavored?

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162. "i dont think either of them have value apart"
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ive enjoyed imperium matches but ive never had an inclination to see either of them do anything singles-wise

id imagine NXT UK

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I’m sure it’s excellent for his health but he lost a lot of his imposing visual

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165. "Kinda agree, but what’s most important is how Vince sees him."
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>I’m sure it’s excellent for his health but he lost a lot
>of his imposing visual

He wasn’t gonna push the Walter of a year ago, but a pretty ripped Gunther has a chance.

  

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171. "It appears that Aichner is the odd man out"
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With Barthel transforming into Ludwig Kaiser.

Dumb names and unecessary gear change aside, WALTER's debut was what it needed to be. Squashed a guy in about 2 minutes. They had him deliver multiple chops, step on his opponent's throat, then powerbomb the shit out of him. Exactly what was needed.

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169. "damn Yuta went from nothing to over af in a month"
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175. "cmon now"
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172. "That was some star-making performance"
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Just an awesome war between the two of them. From the opening lunge, it was on. Bleeds like a stuck pig. The near falls were great; can't believe they had him kick out of two Paradigm Shifts and escape the Bulldog Choke. And the post-match stuff was great too.

Probably the best episode of Rampage ever. Opening match was similarly awesome (but not quite as good). Enjoyed the Scott/Marshall match. Red Velvet still not doing it for me, but Willow looked really good and was over in Boston.

Only thing that was not entertaining was the Scorpio/Page/Lambert vs. Sammy/Tai stuff. Lambert seemingly turns everything to shit; or at least the people he's feuding with. And Scorpio and Page really don't need him; Sky can do the same cocky asshole promos without Lambert's involvement.

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176. "funny enough, im receiving this in the exact opposite way"
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>Only thing that was not entertaining was the
>Scorpio/Page/Lambert vs. Sammy/Tai stuff. Lambert seemingly
>turns everything to shit; or at least the people he's feuding
>with. And Scorpio and Page really don't need him; Sky can do
>the same cocky asshole promos without Lambert's involvement.

i mean its shit, dont get me wrong, but i honestly think Lambert could be great with talent that people cared about in something that makes sense. they dropped the ball on Scorpio Sky, and that ship has sailed. Ethan Page got punked early, and his ship is unmooring as we speak.

and Sammy...hes bumping up against his ceiling until he learns how to talk like a normal person in front of a camera. very stiff and unnatural, and he sounds like a dork. all the charisma he has during a match is electric even tho i think the matches themselves are dumb, and then its completely MIA when hes supposed to talk.

also...why is this weird relationship front and center on TV? he brought his dowdy looking girl onto TV to propose, cheated on her with a co-worker, played victim about his privacy even tho he proposed on national television, and now people are somehow not only *not* disgusted, but like... weirdly enthused about it. this is one of the stranger incursions of real life into the TV product i can ever remember. completely heelish real life asshole behavior, and these weirdo fans are eating it up. its baffling.

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177. "From what I understand, the Boston fans were NOT feeling..."
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...Sammy and Conti at all that night. Like, they hated everyone out there, but probably hated Sammy and Conti more than Lambert. Post-production did a serious of muting the booing and the cursing at the two of them. So it appears that "real life" is leaking in.

And yeah, I agree, this would very much make them natural heels, especially if this continues. The unlikeable smarmy couple who are completely into themselves and oblivious to everyone else. If things continue to go this direction, I would hope he doesn't go the Cody route and fight against it.



>and Sammy...hes bumping up against his ceiling until he learns
>how to talk like a normal person in front of a camera. very
>stiff and unnatural, and he sounds like a dork. all the
>charisma he has during a match is electric even tho i think
>the matches themselves are dumb, and then its completely MIA
>when hes supposed to talk.

I mean, he kind of is a dork. He spent the first part of his career wearing a panda outfit. And he communicates better with those signs than when he's on the mic.

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178. "if they are altering the crowd for the TV presentation"
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that feels like the company is forcing the babyface thing, which is a funny juxtaposition

but its also not surprising because the show is presenting the relationship like some sort of victory for true love. listening to Excalibur talk about them made me even more nauseous than his commentary normally does.

its very strange. why wouldnt someone tell him to lay low? even my wife said something lol. like "are we supposed to just forgrt that he cheated with this girl?"

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179. "RE: if they are altering the crowd for the TV presentation"
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>that feels like the company is forcing the babyface thing,
>which is a funny juxtaposition
>but its also not surprising because the show is presenting the
>relationship like some sort of victory for true love.
>listening to Excalibur talk about them made me even more
>nauseous than his commentary normally does.

I do think course correction is possible, even likely, if this persists. Cody notwithstanding, AEW is generally pretty good at listening to the fans when it comes to the face/heel thing.

>its very strange. why wouldnt someone tell him to lay low?
>even my wife said something lol. like "are we supposed to
>just forgrt that he cheated with this girl?"

Yeah, my wife was a fan of both Sammy and Conti when they were separate. Not so much anymore, for the exact same reasons.

Personally, I don't say shit because I know zero of what's going on behind the scenes for all parties involved.

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181. "they need to get Tay and Anna back together"
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Sammy is a scrub and he drags her down

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173. "Just an incredible war of a match. But he needs to join their club."
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I hope the follow up to that match is that Yuta is the young upstart member of the Regal/BD/Moxley group

  

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174. "they fit a 30+ minute match into like 12 minutes"
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and yeah, I used to not give a shit about Yuta and now I can't wait to see what he does next.

  

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182. "by and large that was a pretty good episode of Dynamite"
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unfortunately the end was...not good.

loved the MJF-Shawn Dean stuff, and it seems im gonna get that tag match i want. not sure why the Meat Gentleman© is supposed to strike fear into anyone at all, but whatever.

JE-ReDRagon was decent even tho it didnt much feel like a title match. It was nice actually not knowing who was gonna win. FTR-ReDRagon intrigued me after those battle royals so that should be fun.

Jericho's ideas are still stupid as shit, but he has really put in some sweat to be able to have better matches. I liked it, even tho the vignette and larger picture are pretty dumb and a waste my guys 2point0.

Adam Cole doing a babyface promo was a little weird.

Scorpio Sky is DOA. this whole steez feels super contrived. for such an incredible athlete, its a shame hes been stuck in the mud for like 2 years.

Swerve Strickland stood out to me big time. i dont watch NXT and by the time i knew of Hit Row it was just about over. he was great, the match itself was great, and Ricky Starks continues to be a shining light every time hes on TV. this was one of my all time favorite Dynamite matches i think.

and now...the end. yuck. the chops, the 50 year old man, the chops, the post match nonsense, Excalibur's completely amateur moron commentary trying to make us care about the post match nonsense. Samoa Joe getting wrecked by a former basketball player? seriously? really cast an unappealing pall over what had been a pretty good show on the whole of it.

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183. "Only thing I out and out didn't like was the very end"
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And the very end indeed sucked. I have desire to care about the ex-NBA guy. And they certainly didn't need to turn out the lights to introduce him.

As for the match, it wasn't my favorite on the card, but worked for me. All these guys really want to have matches with Suzuki. Especially guys like Joe and Danielson. In this case, Suzuki served his purpose as the transitional champion, got his fight in with Joe, and can move on.

I'll be all in for FTR vs. Red Dragon, before they inevitably have FTR win the titles back in May.

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187. "I didn’t watch for a month or so"
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Sammy is a heel now?

  

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188. "“It’s complicated”"
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Sammy left his fiancé for his new home wrecker girlfriend Tay Conti

We were told this was a triumph of love. But a few weeks back the Boston fans emphatically shit on Sammy and Conti and it’s kind of changed things.

So we’re in this holding pattern , kind of like we were with Cody forever, of whether or not they’re going to go all in heel on this or not.

  

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189. "Lol @ home wrecker "
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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191. "TRIUMPH OF LOVE! BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!"
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>Sammy left his fiancé for his new home wrecker girlfriend
>Tay Conti
>
>We were told this was a triumph of love. But a few weeks back
>the Boston fans emphatically shit on Sammy and Conti and
>it’s kind of changed things.
>
>So we’re in this holding pattern , kind of like we were with
>Cody forever, of whether or not they’re going to go all in
>heel on this or not.

Haha! TRIUMPH OF LOVE! Sammy and Conti need to just steal that phrase from you wholesale and use it ridiculously.

I've been thinking a heel turn was coming as soon as they started saying 'be mad' a lot. Cuz that's clearly baiting for hate to me! And hell, Conti IS hot. And both of them dropping out of relationships to bump uglies with each other was guaranteed to get them some spite online from those who can't wait to pass Twitter judgement.

I don't know when AEW 'knew', but they're totally turning into heels now. They MIGHT still be the self-righteous heels who are holding onto the idea that everyone is 'just haters' who don't like their 'TRIUMPH OF LOVE!'. But still, (fine ass) Conti is already making over the top disgusted heel faces. AND she was wearing hella black this last week. It was harder to boo her with them legs out in jean shorts too! Hehe.

AND they overtly cheated more than once to get Sammy the title back. Having the announcers not immediately turn on them is good work and almost certainly deliberate. I like that too. Everyone can't be McAfee good but still!

And Scorpio laid down a standard 'I'm gonna get to the bottom of this foolishness and get a rematch' 80s regional babyface promo before they all went out to clown the hell out of Tay and Sammy.

And Sammy is damn near a heel even when he's supposed to be a face. The only face thing about him is that he does wild spots that look cool in isolation or a gif (the ladder joint with Cody is especially choice). But his character is a forever jerk. Spanish God? Yeah, that's heel stuff.

Ethan Page is overdue to get some more shine. I have reason to believe that this might help. Being anti-Sammy and Conti looks like a good biz for a face to be in..at least for now!

  

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192. "They were definitely embracing it the other night"
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To the point that they’re trying to turn Scorpio and company face. Not sure how that will work, but Sammy and Tay are definitely heels now.

Tbh, the choice to keep Sammy out of the Inner Circle stuff seems deliberate too, so I think all of this could be intentional, but either way, they’re embracing it now.

  

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193. "Yeah, the faces, the “haters” crap"
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that looked like classic heel stuff.

And Sammy should always be heel - there’s nothing likable about him and I’ve wanted to punch him in the face since the first episode of AEW that I saw him on, lol.

Now Britt Baker I assume is still heel and that was just some hometown stuff? Because she was still talking heelish. She needs to stay heel for good too.

  

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184. "CM Punk is Pat McAfee over "
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How is this guy better than he’s ever been?

  

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185. "RE: CM Punk is Pat McAfee over "
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>How is this guy better than he’s ever been?

Im still excited and impressed with Punk’s return and how good it has been. He’s elevated any segment he’s in. Even these ‘throwaway’ matches have links tying them together sometimes. And even without that, he’s making the people he works with look GREAT. It’s a pretty grand run we’re getting here. And it’s getting to be time for him to run up on Hangman. I’m amped for that. And FTR’s singles match. And Cole vs Ishii. And for the AEW/NJPW show..if Kenny makes it back for that, wow. And the Owen in general. And Jade going for 30-0. And for BCC. And…you get it…

  

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186. "its almost like trying to make it real makes it better"
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190. "because now he can go out and work"
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As opposed to having to be a base for gooseshit green or past-it big guys.

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194. "Finn Balor random hilarity"
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https://twitter.com/danthegrapsfan/status/1518324821876224005?s=21&t=mPThd1SVWl9smo9TnZP6nA

>Wrestling is ongoing.
>
>AEW Revolution is tonight. I shall watch and hope I don't let
>myself get burned out by the few car crash matches they have
>planned. I'm AMPED for at least half the card so that's a good
>sign. Sensible dinners Jericho vs Peanut Butter Pie Kingston
>has me excited and I keep forgetting about it. That's another
>sign of a pretty heavy-handed card for these folks.
>
>https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10028539-updated-2022-aew-revolution-match-card-ahead-of-ppv
>
>WWE's Mania is about a month away and trying to come together
>around Charlotte/Rousey, Becks/Belair, and Roman/Brock Part
>17. I've been looking back at some old manias and lawd
>hammercy..there's some rancidly bad ones in between some
>sneaky great ones that stand up TIL THIS DAY. And even some of
>the ones that are labelled as 'good' are 2 or 3 good azz
>matches surrounded by some pretty pointless 'cool yourselves
>off until the next good thing' stuff.
>
>Nobody really knows what's up with Cody.
>
>Cesaro is out in the wild now too allegedly.
>
>Jake Something (decent rassler from Impact) is allegedly not
>at the tapings today.
>
>Jeff Hardy is coming to AEW. AEW doesn't need anymore badass
>tag teams to try to book but okay.
>
>Brock's MSG opponent ended up being an offense-free Austin
>Theory leading into a Reigns beatdown on Brock.
>
>NXT 2.0 is trying to find its way. The diverse array of
>good-looking young talent IS notable even if WWE taking away
>the best mega-indy in Murrica still hurts sometimes.
>
>Terminus is a thing that exists post-ROH 1.0. I owe them some
>of my time at some point. I REALLY need to catch up on NJPW
>and the Japan indy scene. I'm guessing I'm missing hella
>goodies there too.
>
>ROH is now owned by Tony Kahn. The tapes, damnit! Imagine how
>much goodness is on those tapes!
>
>CYN has started doing shows. And the jokes are plentiful early
>on. For all we've said about AEW leaning too heavy on
>'surprises' then not being able to live up to the innanet's
>wildest dreams (Cena, Brock, folks like that), I'm gonna get
>wild and say that Austin Aries can't be your 'check out our
>big surprise' to start, can it?
>
>On AEW, if someone would've told me 5 years ago that a new
>Murrican wrestling company was gonna show up and end up with
>Jericho, American Dragon-style Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, any of
>the 3 members of the Shield, some of the gaijin from New
>Japan, some folks WWE didn't want anymore, indy folks who vary
>wildly in goodness, and some youngsters..many of whom have
>obvious skills and just need a shot, I would've signed off on
>it without thinking about it for long. And again, I keep
>admitting this..I would've never guessed that Punk being back
>on a wrestling show would be this obviously great but it
>totally is. That SOB is OVER over. And its not just people
>deciding to like him cuz of his aura or whatever. He's doing
>supreme work overall.
>
>AEW, flaws and all, is an easy win for everyone who likes
>wrestling in general as long as you're not worried about
>getting taken out of Vince's will. Also, I keep saying this
>too but AEW will, somehow and someway, eventually make WWE
>better. They've already allowed/forced WWE to thin out their
>catering room and promo closets. 3 good months of AEW Miro
>being hossy and great > Rusev post tank entrance/losing to
>Cena, getting punished for getting Rusev Day over, and
>whatever that was with Lashley.

  

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195. "This Ezekiel shit is weird as fuck"
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They have KO no less than STONE COLD at Wrestlemania

And used that momentum for........ this

Yeah.

  

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196. "baseless hunch: it's a slowburn that leads back to Elias"
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again, "baseless" because that gives them a lot of credit

But if he comes out of some existential crisis as Elias he'd be over big

  

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197. "Because that worked so well for Abyss"
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Or Balor. Or Bray.

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198. "Dynamite highlight of the week:"
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Jericho throws fire at Eddie Kingston, and Tony Schiavone has the exactly right reaction. a mix of anger and disgust and generally, you know, pretending that its real, perfectly setting up Excalibur to....

talk about a tournament qualifying match 🤦‍♂️

thanks for letting me know that its not something i should actually worry about.

Schiavone might be old and generally just happy to be there, but that 30 second bit of TV is so perfectly illustrative of the difference between an educated and experienced TV professional, and an indie goof who hasn't learned a goddamned thing despite sitting between 2 legends for the last 2.5 years.

i hate that fucking guy.

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199. "if JR can wheel right by stuff that he thinks is silly so can Excal. "
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Seriously though Jericho doing a fucking James Mitchell spot in the year of our lord 2022 SHOULD get steamrolled by the announcer.

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201. "he hasnt earned that, for one thing"
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Jim Ross is Jim Ross. plus excalibur talks about danhausen like hes casting real magic spells so if they are gonna do a hospitalization angle with eddie kingston, then he should sell that like its the life and death issue it was portrayed as

for another thing...he spent time on it on rampage, so its clearly not a personal aversion. its more not knowing how to do compelling television in the moment.

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He does a lot of “back in my day, that move was called ____” detractions, and Excalibur is usually the one who has to clean up his messes.

  

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202. "perhaps, but hes there to be spoken to at minimum"
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all that time together and hes still the same dude he was at Double or Nothing 2019, and he still has NOT learned that he needs to exist outside of the circus rather than as part of it.

theres no bigger indictment than that imo. hes the exact same goof, with the exact same intonation he brought over from dubbing his PWG DVDs like i used to use to call my Lakers vs Celtics games on Sega Genesis.

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203. "THIS was the promo I needed from Hangman"
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Maybe it’s a few months late, but regardless, I’m looking forward to this match now. And I’m looking forward to seeing if Hangman can hang on the mic when Punk is there.

Keep this version of Hangman away from Dark Order and the Elite and he will be just fine.

  

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204. "Also, Fenix vs. Dante was AWESOME"
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And House of Black is still doing nothing for me. On paper, it should work, but it just doesn’t. I like all these guys individually, but the presentation is lame as hell, the eye makeup has gotten laughable, and I want to fast forward whenever they’re on the TV. I should especially love a Death Triangle vs. House of Black feud… and yet, I’d MUCH rather just watch Fenix wrestle Dante every week with no storyline.

  

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205. "I was there live for this last night, it was crazy!"
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After the match Fenix took his mask off and covered his face with Alex's jacket real quick, and handed the mask to Dante Martin. Dante was shocked, was a real special moment.

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210. "That’s fucking awesome n/m"
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211. "RE: I was there live for this last night, it was crazy!"
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>After the match Fenix took his mask off and covered his face
>with Alex's jacket real quick, and handed the mask to Dante
>Martin. Dante was shocked, was a real special moment.

Wow. That sounds awesome. Like most weekly wrestling shows, Dynamite is never 100% killer but they sure do try to put some bangers on every week. I like their best days WCW energy. That's for sure.

They're coming to the H in a couple of weeks but work is kinda kicking my ass to the point that I don't know if I would be worth a damn to go to a show mid-week. I'm still thinking about it. I'm still haunted by not going to Mania 17.

  

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206. "Forbidden Door sells out in minutes"
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I got mine but fuck ticketmaster.

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207. "always"
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> fuck ticketmaster.

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208. "Wardlow got the Goldberg DLC pack"
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The security detail intro
The crowd chants
Weirdly enough they didn’t do his theme last night tho

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209. "MJF has decreed he gets no ga-ga "
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no music, no video board, no pyro, etc

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213. "Backlash"
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Another wwe show where the rasslin was rock solid. It seems like the house shows are helping a lot with making some of these matches ‘feel polished’. Ie: Cody and Seth are pros of course but it’s clear that they’re doing a circuit of matches and we’re getting pieces of things they’ve tried together. I like it a lot.

And duh, Reigns is killer even in these 6 man setups where he milks every little thing to the max. The internet freaking out cuz he said something at a house show is too on-brand for the Twitta. Whatever. He’s here now.

>Wrestling is ongoing.
>
>AEW Revolution is tonight. I shall watch and hope I don't let
>myself get burned out by the few car crash matches they have
>planned. I'm AMPED for at least half the card so that's a good
>sign. Sensible dinners Jericho vs Peanut Butter Pie Kingston
>has me excited and I keep forgetting about it. That's another
>sign of a pretty heavy-handed card for these folks.
>
>https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10028539-updated-2022-aew-revolution-match-card-ahead-of-ppv
>
>WWE's Mania is about a month away and trying to come together
>around Charlotte/Rousey, Becks/Belair, and Roman/Brock Part
>17. I've been looking back at some old manias and lawd
>hammercy..there's some rancidly bad ones in between some
>sneaky great ones that stand up TIL THIS DAY. And even some of
>the ones that are labelled as 'good' are 2 or 3 good azz
>matches surrounded by some pretty pointless 'cool yourselves
>off until the next good thing' stuff.
>
>Nobody really knows what's up with Cody.
>
>Cesaro is out in the wild now too allegedly.
>
>Jake Something (decent rassler from Impact) is allegedly not
>at the tapings today.
>
>Jeff Hardy is coming to AEW. AEW doesn't need anymore badass
>tag teams to try to book but okay.
>
>Brock's MSG opponent ended up being an offense-free Austin
>Theory leading into a Reigns beatdown on Brock.
>
>NXT 2.0 is trying to find its way. The diverse array of
>good-looking young talent IS notable even if WWE taking away
>the best mega-indy in Murrica still hurts sometimes.
>
>Terminus is a thing that exists post-ROH 1.0. I owe them some
>of my time at some point. I REALLY need to catch up on NJPW
>and the Japan indy scene. I'm guessing I'm missing hella
>goodies there too.
>
>ROH is now owned by Tony Kahn. The tapes, damnit! Imagine how
>much goodness is on those tapes!
>
>CYN has started doing shows. And the jokes are plentiful early
>on. For all we've said about AEW leaning too heavy on
>'surprises' then not being able to live up to the innanet's
>wildest dreams (Cena, Brock, folks like that), I'm gonna get
>wild and say that Austin Aries can't be your 'check out our
>big surprise' to start, can it?
>
>On AEW, if someone would've told me 5 years ago that a new
>Murrican wrestling company was gonna show up and end up with
>Jericho, American Dragon-style Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, any of
>the 3 members of the Shield, some of the gaijin from New
>Japan, some folks WWE didn't want anymore, indy folks who vary
>wildly in goodness, and some youngsters..many of whom have
>obvious skills and just need a shot, I would've signed off on
>it without thinking about it for long. And again, I keep
>admitting this..I would've never guessed that Punk being back
>on a wrestling show would be this obviously great but it
>totally is. That SOB is OVER over. And its not just people
>deciding to like him cuz of his aura or whatever. He's doing
>supreme work overall.
>
>AEW, flaws and all, is an easy win for everyone who likes
>wrestling in general as long as you're not worried about
>getting taken out of Vince's will. Also, I keep saying this
>too but AEW will, somehow and someway, eventually make WWE
>better. They've already allowed/forced WWE to thin out their
>catering room and promo closets. 3 good months of AEW Miro
>being hossy and great > Rusev post tank entrance/losing to
>Cena, getting punished for getting Rusev Day over, and
>whatever that was with Lashley.

  

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214. "Edge, Bryan, CM Punk: Masters who really, truly, gave back"
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DB bringing Wheeler Yuta along

Punk's program with MJF

and now Edge and "Judgment Day" ...

once you've done all there is to do and mastered the game, the illest thing you can do next is pass it on.

The game is fucked up when Punk and Edge are -still- the two best promos going. But check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQwQVVFnSG4

  

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215. "Damien Priest could become that dude IMO"
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All the ingredients are there.

His voice is, goddamn, a commanding one. Imagine if Brock had that voice.

Promos are a little stiff and cheesy at times. But I can definitely see him developing into a top guy. He's old though, so they better get on it.

  

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216. "RE: Damien Priest could become that dude IMO"
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>All the ingredients are there.
>
>His voice is, goddamn, a commanding one. Imagine if Brock had
>that voice.
>
>Promos are a little stiff and cheesy at times. But I can
>definitely see him developing into a top guy. He's old though,
>so they better get on it.

Yeah, I like him too. And yeah, dude ain't a kid. But they want/need more folks ASAP so he might be in the right place and time if this works out really well. I know this JD thing is slow cooking so I'm not paying too much attention or expecting too much right off. But they have 2 good ones with Edge.

Cody has been really fun too. It is great that he feels like a fit..almost because he's still doing things that don't 100% fit. But he's in great shape, he's got his working boots on, and his talking/character stuff is going over very well.

And fuck yeah I love me some Hookhausen (it is working and it will be fun) and Ezekiel. And MJF's Dark Side of the Ring? Excellent. I was rolling watching all of that.

Punk coming out post-show and getting worked by Hookhausen is gonna give Cornette time to do his negativity thing but whatever. There's only so much time left in this crazy world. Punk is made. Hook is doing well. DH is serving a good purpose after all. Relax, corny.

  

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227. "Jericho was priceless in the MJF segment"
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"why would I narrate for that asshole? . . . how much is he paying?"

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217. "i cant understand the mentality behind"
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cooling off Daniel Bryan this way

Wheeler Yuta, if hes extremely lucky AND hard-working, might achieve Frankie Kazerian status at some point in his career.

doesnt seem worth killing what they had with Bryan for a scoop of store brand vanilla ice cream

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218. "I agree. I think even Mox is beneath him. But it’s what he wants to do..."
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Whole reason he left WWE was to do his own thing so in guess he’s fulfilling that promise to himself

  

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219. "RE: I think even Mox is beneath him -- agreed"
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i could see it if they were in the top tier mix of tag teams i guess, but thats apparently not where we're going

im sure a lot of guys want to do a lot of things, but someone needs to be the boss over there

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220. "If this is cooling off, then call me Mister Freeze."
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Idk what that means, just roll with it.

>cooling off Daniel Bryan this way

A) Being a part of an over faction is not really cooling off

B) I’m not sure there was a more interesting storyline for him once he lost his title shot. What else would he do? Chase the TNT title? Get angry at MJF for some reason? I think assembling a group of badasses to take over the company makes the most sense.

>
>Wheeler Yuta, if hes extremely lucky AND hard-working, might
>achieve Frankie Kazerian status at some point in his career.
>

If he didn’t win you over with his Mox match (like he did with me), I don’t know what to tell ya. People are really responding to him now, and I think he’s already a bigger deal than Frankie Kazarian.

  

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221. "RE: If this is cooling off, then call me Mister Freeze."
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>Idk what that means, just roll with it.
>
>>cooling off Daniel Bryan this way
>
>A) Being a part of an over faction is not really cooling off
>
>B) I’m not sure there was a more interesting storyline for
>him once he lost his title shot. What else would he do? Chase
>the TNT title? Get angry at MJF for some reason? I think
>assembling a group of badasses to take over the company makes
>the most sense.
>
>>
>>Wheeler Yuta, if hes extremely lucky AND hard-working, might
>>achieve Frankie Kazerian status at some point in his career.
>
>>
>
>If he didn’t win you over with his Mox match (like he did
>with me), I don’t know what to tell ya. People are really
>responding to him now, and I think he’s already a bigger
>deal than Frankie Kazarian.

That negativity force is still strong on them blogs and pods. And they can’t decide if money is the most important thing or not. WWE is breaking records, aew is growing, and people are checking out indies. But sure, no one show is getting watched as much as a 1999 Raw ep. And if people want to make that their ‘validation’ for spewing the negativity and faux nostalgia and it works, cool.

  

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224. "RE: If this is cooling off, then call me Mister Freeze."
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Only other direction they could have feasibly gone was to give him the TNT Title at let him beat up people every week.

Which... okay, sure, that would have been fine. But the way they went has been working either. Or isn't better.

It's given Moxley something else to do, it involves Regal, it involves lots of awesome violence, and has gotten Yuta REALLY over. So, it's all worked out great.

I hope they eventually do pull Garcia and Moriarty into the group. But in the meantime, I enjoying the three beating the shit out of people every week, and getting Regal on commentary to boot.

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232. "Yeah, Bryan is (and should be) considered above the TNT title"
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Don’t get me wrong, if Bryan did a Cena/Cody-like open challenge for the title every week, it would be FIRE, but he’s a world championship-or-bust level performer, so since he’s out of the world title picture, a badass faction is the way to go.

I agree a Garcia or Moriaty would be great for this group, but they have time to recruit and it should be a very selective process (as opposed to Jericho surrounding himself with an army of younger guys). I guess Garcia was lined up to be in the group, but Jericho claimed him instead. I like where his career is heading, so I can’t complain.

  

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235. "it just all feels so non-essential"
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>A) Being a part of an over faction is not really cooling off

this faction as a collective is considerably less interesting than heel Danielson was on his own. Moxley's whole act is soooo repetitive, and Yuta cant talk without coming off like someone playing pretend.

>B) I’m not sure there was a more interesting storyline for
>him once he lost his title shot. What else would he do? Chase
>the TNT title? Get angry at MJF for some reason? I think
>assembling a group of badasses to take over the company makes
>the most sense.

they arent doing that tho. they're just having 6 man tags against jabronis.* the TV time theyve had this far is a complete waste of both Danielson AND Regal.


also...putting Danielson in a personal issue with someone shouldnt be hard to do. some babyface or another takes issue with his bullying, steps to him, and embarasses BD with a couple shots that would he considered sucker-punches if you didnt hate the guy that got punched. BD bails with an angry look on his face, pouting his way up the ramp, and we're off. maybe have Brian Pillman Jr do that instead of sending him out on a suicide mission to try to talk us into caring about that dreck with Malakai Black. hes got underdog coursing thru his veins and people are DYINGGGGG for a reason get behind him. that would have been orders of magnitude more fun for me. MJF hasnt sniffed the title scene in almost 2 years. Eddie Kingston, same thing, and they still matter.

>If he didn’t win you over with his Mox match (like he did
>with me), I don’t know what to tell ya. People are really
>responding to him now, and I think he’s already a bigger
>deal than Frankie Kazarian.

he didnt. hes just a bland piece of white bread, and he doesnt make it as real as a bland piece of white bread needs to make it for me to care. he has nothing to say, he goofed around with the cabbage patch kids for too long, and hes mostly just "there".



* this was started before Dynamite last night and now we know that hes going to be in a 10 man garbage match with Chris Jericho. like...cmon.

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222. "They could probably give Christian more to do?"
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He can still go, doesn’t look, wrestle, or act “old”, can talk….seems he could still be a main guy with a push and some mic time?

  

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223. "They’re setting up a turn"
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Either him flipping on Jungle Boy or vice versa. Though it looks likely like the former. Might be as soon as the PPV.

I feel they’ve been giving him stuff to do in general. He’s been pretty prominently featured in all the PPVs so far. He beat Omega. Was just in that Golden Ring ladder. And now he’ll get a feud with Jungle Boy.

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225. "Sasha Banks & Naomi left Raw over bad creative"
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If what’s being reported is true - that they were going to each go job for the Raw and Smackdown champions OR start a program with Doudrop/Nikki Ash - then they had a legitimate ax to grind.

That said, not sure storming out is ever the move.

We’ll see how this plays out. Naomi is a fine performer, but Banks is a future HOFer and one of the best women performers ever. This will be the 2nd time Banks has stormed out , she did it once with Bayley, and she also took a sabbatical of sorts before as well.

  

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226. "Smells like a work but I kind of think its real"
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Kind of.

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228. "The WWE official statement sort of makes me feel like it's a work"
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Because if not... damn.

It probably gets worked out no matter what.

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240. "the statement is hilarious"
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THIS ALL FAKE, AND SHE IS SUPPOSED TO PLAY A ROLE IN THIS FICTIONAL PRODUCTION. DESPITE ADEQUATE REHEARSAL TIME FOR HER ENTERTAINMENT SPECTACLE, SHE WAS NOT WILLING TO FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS IN HER SCRIPT.

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231. "if its a work it's an irresponsible one"
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WWE staff should know better than to serve up two black women on a platter like this to the wrestling fanbase.

also this aint the first time Sasha took her ball and went home because she thought they were on some BS.

so this is definitely real

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229. "Storming out is great, and I hope more people do it, across the workforc..."
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Not just WWE

Too many workplaces get away with FAR too much bullshit, because FAR yoo many people just put up with it, and far too often people who say nah, fuck that, are held to a standard higher than the employer.

The overall sentiment is that people should just deal with it, or “find a better way”, etc

Fuck that, and fuck this whole playing to the middle nonsense.

And no, I’m not coming at you. I’m coming at this subject as a whole.

And yep, I speak with a fair amount of experience, and I in fact just wrapped up a six month battle at my job where I refused to let an abusive, antagonistic, overbearing supervisor overstep the bounds of her position.

FYI, I fucking won, because I was absolutely correct- but they went the extra mile to try to drag me through the mud first. And, because I’m the type who will stand my ground when the facts are on my side, they not only failed miserably, there’s more failure on the horizon for them. Because they fucked up every step of the way.

This is nowhere near my first rodeo at this job, and yes, I’m undefeated in this bitch.

All that to say, this hits home, and in the instances where I’ve lost in the past, i wound up with vindication after the fact. So i know a thing or two about this shit.

We know way too much about the cesspool that is WWE management to not give her the benefit of the doubt, bare minimum.

It’s not just bad creative from what I’ve read. It was a day full of taking their grievances up the chain, finding a resolution, only for that resolution to change, inly to find another resolution, only for that to change AGAIN- all whole being told by producers that they were “entitled” , with said producers yelling about it.

This is after them being given next to nothing of note to do since Mania, despite being told the opposite.

Remember Punk talking about Vince’s “I owe you one”?

Yeah. Fuck that, fuck Vince, and fuck that company.

  

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230. "I hear you, I think you had it worse than them actually though"
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they're pretend fighters on TV, you're a real guy in a real job. I dunno haha. Not to minimize their experiences but I think Banks and Naomi's lives are fine, they're just pissed that they're not getting what they want AND THAT'S TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE...but I'd think less emotional responses from probably everyone involved could've gotten this resolved. Who knows, I wasn't there.

I think the world of Sasha Banks I hope it works out.

  

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239. "RE: Sasha Banks & Naomi left Raw over bad creative"
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>If what’s being reported is true - that they were going to
>each go job for the Raw and Smackdown champions OR start a
>program with Doudrop/Nikki Ash - then they had a legitimate ax
>to grind.
>
>That said, not sure storming out is ever the move.
>
>We’ll see how this plays out. Naomi is a fine performer, but
>Banks is a future HOFer and one of the best women performers
>ever. This will be the 2nd time Banks has stormed out , she
>did it once with Bayley, and she also took a sabbatical of
>sorts before as well.

Maaaaaaaan, IDK!

Zoomed out, I want to believe that WWE can figure out how to get champs on TV even if it is only some 80s-style 'see this person's face for a few mins and something physical MIGHT happen' type of deal. This should be plausible if the champs are on-hand at the shows. And, as we've seen, it is possible when when the camps aren't available in person.

Zoomed in on Sasha, I'm not sure what Banks wants, but my guess is something like this: 'she wants to be treated like a star. And stars show up on shows and even their absence is notable, noted, and used to move stories forward'. And it seems like WWE is NOT trying to do that with her.

Maybe this is because she hasn't resigned with the company yet, they're salty about it, and they weren't dying to book Sasha strong only to have her not resign/expire. And then she shows up somewhere else shortly thereafter talking big shit and wrestling her ass off. They seem dead serious about trying to give folks the God of War 'lose all of your shit from the prior game' treatment on their way out.

IDK. Hopefully they work it out and/or its a work. And if they don't, hopefully they say 'fuck it, go on, now' and then she goes on to have a good run elsewhere.

I have no idea how Naomi does with this if it isn't a work. She's been off the scene sometimes before this too. Was she hurt? Going thru some thangs? Both? Family ties is one thing, but that shit didn't help ole Nia Jax (maybe she's on the outs with the fam somehow). IDK!

  

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233. "I finally went to a Dynamite!"
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Had pretty good seats too.

It was fun and regularly loud for lots of people.

Weekly tv always has a risk of catching a weak show but I left feeling like I had seen some good segments and at least a few rock solid/good matches. I was pulling for Cesaro to be the male joker but oh well.

They taped Dark first. Then Dynamite. Then Rampage. A lot of people stayed for Rampage.

Justin Roberts was clowning during commercial breaks and forcing the crowd to stay up. Tony Khan kept on coming out and talking! Haha. And he’d always stay a long-ish time. But he was excited and folks mostly rolled with him.

At worst, it felt kinda ‘cozy’ small vs how it looks on tv. But once forreal folks started coming out and laying their shit in, it was ON and it didn’t matter to me anymore. Good night of rasslin on a weeknight.

What else…

KOR/Fénix was glorious live. Kyle is just fucking good and he got a good one out of Fénix for sure.

Buddy looked jacked in person. I want someone somewhere to throw him into main events.

Jeff Hardy looked unjacked.

Samoa Joe looked great in the ring. Really physical without looking like he was slangin potatoes. I love Morrison and he looked excellent and casually athletic af.

Hangman Page had a banger/physical/adult match and got solid and strong reactions. This whole ‘he ain’t over’ thing is loaded. He’s not CM Punk over but damn near no one is.

Jade looks like a SUPER DUPER ULTRA STAR in person. And huge. Her and the baddies all look great too. And Smart Mark had me rollin. Good goon manager.

Skye Blue! Lawd! She looked outlandishly good. I love her now. Some of her offense had a gang of air/wasn’t connecting. She’s gotta tighten that up. Her and Thunder Rosa were seriously holding on a show with a slew of attractive ladies.

MJF got almost Ciampa with no music level boos. I kinda figured we wouldn’t get Wardlow killing a whole group of humans this time. And we didn’t. MJF is gonna be great for many years I hope

Mfers were dying to sing Cult of Personality and Judas. Jericho soaked that shit up bigtime before Rampage and looked like he was in the shape of his life.

Adam Cole looked small but he also looked to be in decent shape and of course his shit looked snug and professional. I keep saying this but I think the Bucks being visibly bigger than him almost killed Cole as soon as he showed up. But he’s winning when it counts now so let’s see. Britt was still bigtime over and she was a PRO at making the joker’s offense work. Jamie Hayter was a brick….houuuuuse. Not surprisingly.

Max came out with the Gunn Club. People were very excited about it. And the rap was localized and great as per usual.

>Wrestling is ongoing.
>
>AEW Revolution is tonight. I shall watch and hope I don't let
>myself get burned out by the few car crash matches they have
>planned. I'm AMPED for at least half the card so that's a good
>sign. Sensible dinners Jericho vs Peanut Butter Pie Kingston
>has me excited and I keep forgetting about it. That's another
>sign of a pretty heavy-handed card for these folks.
>
>https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10028539-updated-2022-aew-revolution-match-card-ahead-of-ppv
>
>WWE's Mania is about a month away and trying to come together
>around Charlotte/Rousey, Becks/Belair, and Roman/Brock Part
>17. I've been looking back at some old manias and lawd
>hammercy..there's some rancidly bad ones in between some
>sneaky great ones that stand up TIL THIS DAY. And even some of
>the ones that are labelled as 'good' are 2 or 3 good azz
>matches surrounded by some pretty pointless 'cool yourselves
>off until the next good thing' stuff.
>
>Nobody really knows what's up with Cody.
>
>Cesaro is out in the wild now too allegedly.
>
>Jake Something (decent rassler from Impact) is allegedly not
>at the tapings today.
>
>Jeff Hardy is coming to AEW. AEW doesn't need anymore badass
>tag teams to try to book but okay.
>
>Brock's MSG opponent ended up being an offense-free Austin
>Theory leading into a Reigns beatdown on Brock.
>
>NXT 2.0 is trying to find its way. The diverse array of
>good-looking young talent IS notable even if WWE taking away
>the best mega-indy in Murrica still hurts sometimes.
>
>Terminus is a thing that exists post-ROH 1.0. I owe them some
>of my time at some point. I REALLY need to catch up on NJPW
>and the Japan indy scene. I'm guessing I'm missing hella
>goodies there too.
>
>ROH is now owned by Tony Kahn. The tapes, damnit! Imagine how
>much goodness is on those tapes!
>
>CYN has started doing shows. And the jokes are plentiful early
>on. For all we've said about AEW leaning too heavy on
>'surprises' then not being able to live up to the innanet's
>wildest dreams (Cena, Brock, folks like that), I'm gonna get
>wild and say that Austin Aries can't be your 'check out our
>big surprise' to start, can it?
>
>On AEW, if someone would've told me 5 years ago that a new
>Murrican wrestling company was gonna show up and end up with
>Jericho, American Dragon-style Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, any of
>the 3 members of the Shield, some of the gaijin from New
>Japan, some folks WWE didn't want anymore, indy folks who vary
>wildly in goodness, and some youngsters..many of whom have
>obvious skills and just need a shot, I would've signed off on
>it without thinking about it for long. And again, I keep
>admitting this..I would've never guessed that Punk being back
>on a wrestling show would be this obviously great but it
>totally is. That SOB is OVER over. And its not just people
>deciding to like him cuz of his aura or whatever. He's doing
>supreme work overall.
>
>AEW, flaws and all, is an easy win for everyone who likes
>wrestling in general as long as you're not worried about
>getting taken out of Vince's will. Also, I keep saying this
>too but AEW will, somehow and someway, eventually make WWE
>better. They've already allowed/forced WWE to thin out their
>catering room and promo closets. 3 good months of AEW Miro
>being hossy and great > Rusev post tank entrance/losing to
>Cena, getting punished for getting Rusev Day over, and
>whatever that was with Lashley.

  

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234. "Cosign all of this."
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I was there as well, had a great time.

I hate "what" chants so those, combined with how bad the Deeb promo was, was the low point of the night for me.



***Rampage Spoilers***

Still waiting to hear some news on Danielson; hope it's nothing serious. I thought Regal was really injured as well until I noticed everyone concerned about Danielson.

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236. "that was the best episode for me in a very long time"
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i didnt need Jurassic Express hokeying up what had been a good piece of TV, and the Bucks/Hardys stuff is the kind of thing that i wouldnt want a stranger to see me watching but otherwise i enjoyed it.

Serena Deeb's interview kinda hurt my feelings. i dont like to think of her as so insecure that she cares what Schiavone says. if she had called Dustin out right away that all would have gone down a lot smoother

Joe vs Morrison was extremely enjoyable and if Morrison is gonna stick around, thats a TNT champion to restore some stability and importance to the title. hes got "im important" oozing out of his pores, and his 450 that missed actually made it seem more real bc the announcers called it like a risky thing that went the way risky things go sometimes.

Page match was good. "too good" in the way that the champs matches shouldnt be good, but taken on its own it was well executed. Takeshita has something.

Jericho went IN verbally, but the letdown of a 10 man hardcore match was real. instant deflation, and i continue to lament the presence of 2point0 and Danielson in this nonsense.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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237. "the crowd and Serena"
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The area I was in had a weird seating issue. It was basically benches just behind and above the floor seats but below the stands. And the venue's security very comfortably directed a shitload of people to sit in the wrong as hell seats. The seats were benches..about 4 long ass rows, but they were numbered weird (the bottom row was row 2 for instance).

And there were legitimately some seats blocked off that were supposed to be available. So lots of people who showed up right before Dynamite started and got screwed. I'm talking about having to stand up and wait for some big cheese mfer from the venue to come find them some seats (the place looked about 90% full and lots of people ended up with great apology seats..I damn near wanted to follow them once I saw where they got put). Add in the normal issue of people trying to do seat shenanigans. AKA some people were dead seriously sitting in seats that weren't anywhere near their seat. But the event folks did NOT handle it properly.

Luckily, I walked in 20 minutes before Dark (aka early AF) so I was good even though they sat me on the wrong row 3x instead of making the jackasses who were in MY seat move. I was in the right section. Right seat number too, but I was 1 row up (IE: row 3 instead of row 2). Silly stuff really but I lived cuz getting there early saved my azz.

Anyway, Serena came out and it seems like more of the bad human being crew on hand (especially the ones who had been a part of seat-gate 2022) decided to give her the biz as soon as she came out. IE: they were saying stuff about her thin frame. And they were gross about it. And I think she heard it cuz the place wasn't huge and she didn't get a big pop when she came out. AND her mic turned on late so it was oddly quiet. Serena was kinda shook after that to me. She's not a wonderful talker anyway and the segment wasn't exactly brilliant (too long, too convoluted, too much Tony like you said). But I gave her a pass based on some of the stuff I heard dudes saying loud and clear to/at her. After that, I recovered by being lazer focused on seeing how fine Thunder Rosa was when she came out.

Some of those same jerks said something wild about Regal. Eddie Kingston heard it, located them, and gave a them a death stare that we all saw, felt, agreed with and loved.

Other things:

Eddie Kingston is wonderful. I mean really really wonderful. Just his whole in-fighting deal with Bryan was top shelf work. And he was the absolute best with the general purpose 'wrestler face-making'. I wanted to see him punch someone almost immediately.

In general, I have to say this again: the obviously seasoned folks got their shine on in that cozy environment. There was some more indy folks on the roster who were struggling with landing strikes clean. And/or you could kinda tell they were going from move to move and you could almost see them thinking about it as they did it. But the PROS!? WOW..the professionals were excellent. Kyle folks. KYLE! I keep going back to it cuz him and Fenix was the match of the night in a walk. It was PHYSICAL and I'm also accusing KOR 'framing' all of Fenix's stuff perfectly. No/low shenanigans. And dudes were crisp and clean pretty much all the way through. It was physically impressive and good forreal. KOR's chest and collarbone was RED like 4 minutes in. He looked gave off the impression of FATIGUE better than anyone the whole night. And Fenix sold like an adult too so he was a willing dance partner. And the nerdy good wrestler nuance stuff was super noticeable live from both of them. It ALMOST made up for me getting absolutely no FTR in-person. ALMOST! I could've taken a little more Jay Lethal too. And that dude with Lethal? That big dude!? Lawd..he was BIG.

I'll tell you this too: even though I was sitting opposite of where the hard cam was (that's what I get for buying tickets last minute), I didn't regularly succeed at being able to hear or even really see people talking to one another mid-match. So it is clear someone is working with people and trying to improve things.

>i didnt need Jurassic Express hokeying up what had been a
>good piece of TV, and the Bucks/Hardys stuff is the kind of
>thing that i wouldnt want a stranger to see me watching but
>otherwise i enjoyed it.
>
>Serena Deeb's interview kinda hurt my feelings. i dont like
>to think of her as so insecure that she cares what Schiavone
>says. if she had called Dustin out right away that all would
>have gone down a lot smoother
>
>Joe vs Morrison was extremely enjoyable and if Morrison is
>gonna stick around, thats a TNT champion to restore some
>stability and importance to the title. hes got "im important"
>oozing out of his pores, and his 450 that missed actually made
>it seem more real bc the announcers called it like a risky
>thing that went the way risky things go sometimes.
>
>Page match was good. "too good" in the way that the champs
>matches shouldnt be good, but taken on its own it was well
>executed. Takeshita has something.
>
>Jericho went IN verbally, but the letdown of a 10 man hardcore
>match was real. instant deflation, and i continue to lament
>the presence of 2point0 and Danielson in this nonsense.

  

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238. "I had floor seats and the same/similar issue."
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>The area I was in had a weird seating issue. It was basically
>benches just behind and above the floor seats but below the
>stands. And the venue's security very comfortably directed a
>shitload of people to sit in the wrong as hell seats. The
>seats were benches..about 4 long ass rows, but they were
>numbered weird (the bottom row was row 2 for instance).

None of the floor sections were labeled and only half of the staff seemed to know where they were. I also had row 8 listed on my ticket and the numbers for each section only went up to row 5. The last staff member I spoke with actually told me to just sit wherever I could find a spot in that section so I guess I was one of the lucky people who didn't get kicked out of their seat an hour plus into Dynamite.

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242. "Justin Roberts is funny af right?"
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him and Daphney were cutting up during the breaks when i went. definitely kept the crowd energy way up through a long night.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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241. "boy they buried the shit out of Sasha and Naomi"
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stripped em of the belts on TV
suspended indefinitely
"Sasha Banks and Naomi let us all down" - Michael Cole

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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