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Shawn_Gee
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"Is This The End?"


          

....of ?uest's participation on these boards (at least okartist board)?

Is he finally tired of the constant negativity?

Has the negativity (and I'm not talking about constructive criticism, I mean the assholes) kept away too many of his friends that would like to participate (Com, Kweli, Macy, LB, Badu)?

Has the 500 "I am disappointed they didn't do the DJ Honda European Distortion Remix at the Sprite Tour" or the 1000 "fmwj....why I hate Phrenology" or the 700 "whaleboy....everything ?uest does sucks" posts really made him sick of the online community that he started?

Is he REALLY considering starting another site with password protected (and possibly pay) sections where he can converse with true fans that will offer true constructive criticism without constant "bashing"?

What will Okayplayer be without him?

Will there be an Okayplayer without him?

I hope so because I enjoy the Sportsboard and the Lesson.....hmmm.

"Ernest Lee is Shorty. In the Little Leagues, he can front like hes something important, but any attempt to move into the big time leaves him exposed, shocked, and utterly outclassed". - (taken from the Blowhard league archives)

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
RE: Is This The End?
Sep 12th 2003
1
RE: Is This The End?
Sep 12th 2003
39
what did I miss
Sep 12th 2003
2
in a nutshell
Sep 12th 2003
3
uhm
Sep 12th 2003
4
i don't understand that part.
Sep 13th 2003
118
damn
Sep 12th 2003
5
RE: in a nutshell
Sep 12th 2003
6
it's a shame but
Sep 12th 2003
7
niggas always gotta fuck it up
Sep 12th 2003
8
RE: in a nutshell
Sep 12th 2003
9
RE: in a nutshell
Sep 12th 2003
10
i don't blame you.
Sep 12th 2003
12
Can't blame you at all.
Sep 12th 2003
13
In Lil Jon Voice
Sep 12th 2003
14
I noticed...
Sep 12th 2003
15
Damn dog....I feel u though
Sep 12th 2003
16
I feel you
Sep 12th 2003
17
this place
Sep 12th 2003
22
ten: theogony quest
Sep 12th 2003
25
damn homey...
Sep 12th 2003
26
I still wub you
Sep 12th 2003
32
RE: in a nutshell
Sep 12th 2003
35
Be easy, ?uest
Sep 12th 2003
36
RE: Be easy, ?uest
Sep 12th 2003
70
Pink FLoyd "The Wall" . . . goodbye cruel world,
Sep 12th 2003
40
well i can't blame you
Sep 12th 2003
45
eff em dawg...
Sep 12th 2003
48
i respect that
Sep 12th 2003
52
RE: in a nutsack
Sep 12th 2003
54
further proof that you're still an OKP
Sep 13th 2003
81
      lol
Sep 13th 2003
107
peace man
Sep 12th 2003
56
Jesus, man.
Sep 12th 2003
59
do not fret, my son
Sep 12th 2003
62
Sad but truly bitter.
Sep 13th 2003
76
you did me a favor way back...
Sep 13th 2003
77
he did alot of favors
Sep 14th 2003
138
shit...whaleboy dont like my music neither
Sep 13th 2003
80
lol
Sep 14th 2003
137
Don't take this the wrong way ?uest...
Sep 13th 2003
88
i co-sign all of this
Sep 13th 2003
93
RE: Don't take this the wrong way ?uest...
Sep 15th 2003
173
Yeah, These Mutherfuckers...
Sep 13th 2003
99
is that a Fred G. Sanford reference?
Sep 13th 2003
106
i understand completely but i think its DUMB
Sep 13th 2003
110
that's a good idea *gives your post the evil eye*
Sep 13th 2003
112
      wow
Sep 14th 2003
144
           ok, this is so ironic it's funny
Sep 14th 2003
145
                no, it wasnt a wow im hurt/offended
Sep 15th 2003
163
                     Toushe guy
Sep 15th 2003
176
your sig...
Sep 13th 2003
111
It's just an Ice Cube quote
Sep 15th 2003
170
      i know
Sep 17th 2003
182
RE: in a nutshell
Sep 15th 2003
161
it's quite simple...
Sep 15th 2003
162
i feel you but
Sep 12th 2003
11
thats different
Sep 12th 2003
18
i don't see it that way
Sep 12th 2003
58
when's the last time okayplayer was handing out paychec
Sep 12th 2003
20
      okp DOES hand out paychecks
Sep 12th 2003
60
           To THESE lazyboi comments:
Sep 13th 2003
90
                Me too.
Sep 14th 2003
136
Yo Qool!!
Sep 12th 2003
19
you mofos did it
Sep 12th 2003
21
For a While.......
Sep 12th 2003
23
      exactly
Sep 12th 2003
24
           but honestly
Sep 12th 2003
28
...?
Sep 12th 2003
27
these assholes ran THE FOUNDER off his own site.
Sep 12th 2003
29
hmmmmm...
Sep 12th 2003
30
RE: hmmmmm...
Sep 12th 2003
33
      ok this is getting silly
Sep 12th 2003
38
      hallie lou ya
Sep 13th 2003
78
      Bullshit Shawn...
Sep 13th 2003
89
      you really believe that don't you?
Sep 13th 2003
103
RE: Is This The End?
Sep 12th 2003
31
RE: Filtering out the Assholes
Sep 12th 2003
34
I guess we'll never get those liner notes, now.
Sep 12th 2003
37
A Personal testimony
Sep 12th 2003
41
RE: Is This The End?
Sep 12th 2003
42
RE: Is This The End?
Sep 12th 2003
44
      RE: Is This The End?
Sep 12th 2003
46
he was gone two years ago
Sep 12th 2003
43
Well, hopefully you'll come around here at least to rea
Sep 12th 2003
47
Fuck all of these people.
Sep 12th 2003
49
RE: Is This The End?
1st Time Caller Long Time Listener
Sep 12th 2003
50
That's Kinda Like Jay Leavin the Roc....
Sep 12th 2003
51
he threatened Happy Harrington style endings
Sep 12th 2003
53
RE: Is This The End?
Sep 12th 2003
55
(singing)
Sep 12th 2003
57
Get my name out of your fuckin mouth.
Sep 12th 2003
61
RE: Get my name out of your fuckin mouth.
Sep 12th 2003
63
      Yuuuuuuuuuuup........
Sep 13th 2003
91
they got my name wrong again
Sep 12th 2003
64
boo
Sep 12th 2003
65
      haha
Sep 12th 2003
66
This site isnt about the fans
Sep 12th 2003
67
honestly
Sep 12th 2003
68
RE: F*CK MCA !!!!!
Sep 12th 2003
69
haha!
Sep 12th 2003
71
good call.
Sep 12th 2003
72
RE: F*CK MCA !!!!!
Sep 12th 2003
75
on the cool...
Sep 12th 2003
73
Damn
Sep 12th 2003
74
codamn
Sep 13th 2003
79
      cotdamn!
Sep 13th 2003
114
It was your post chasing.....
Sep 13th 2003
82
Wheeeeeeeeee!
Sep 13th 2003
86
"No" men are in short supply here...
Sep 13th 2003
92
For the record.
Sep 13th 2003
95
Co-sign (*no homo*).
Sep 13th 2003
102
haha me too
Sep 13th 2003
108
      and btw (i doubt you'll read this but whateverthefuck)
Sep 13th 2003
109
yeah, what she said. n/m.
Sep 13th 2003
115
cosign
Sep 13th 2003
128
I understand you completely
Sep 13th 2003
96
RE: on the cool...
Sep 13th 2003
119
how in the blue hell
Sep 15th 2003
160
No need to retract Shawn Gee
Sep 15th 2003
168
I'm surprised you stuck it out this long
Sep 15th 2003
159
One n/m
Sep 13th 2003
83
The Dumbest Shit Ever
Sep 13th 2003
84
*moves on to mariahcarey.com*
Sep 13th 2003
85
Here's the knowledge.
Sep 13th 2003
87
This site is way too dope to lose...
Sep 13th 2003
94
i think yall making this shit bigger than what it is. r
Sep 13th 2003
97
RE: Is This The End?
Sep 13th 2003
98
this is bullshit
Sep 13th 2003
100
okayplayer.com no more?
Sep 13th 2003
101
      I don't fear shit
Sep 13th 2003
104
           good to start unnecessary shit
Sep 13th 2003
105
           I am?
Sep 13th 2003
113
           you didn't see a big fuss when ang left?
Sep 14th 2003
149
                RE: you didn't see a big fuss when ang left?
Sep 15th 2003
154
                     yep
Sep 15th 2003
169
                          RE: yep
Sep 17th 2003
183
SCARE TACTICS!
Sep 13th 2003
116
5 hours a day? that is a bit much / you need a t-mobil
Sep 13th 2003
117
snoopy towels and the tipping point
Sep 14th 2003
139
Yet some STILL choose to be assholes in this post
Sep 13th 2003
120
Let go of the dick now
Sep 13th 2003
123
      your the one with it in your mouth
Sep 13th 2003
125
      now there YOU go asswipe.
Sep 13th 2003
126
      she'll windmill kick your hiney.
Sep 13th 2003
127
      that ain't necessary
Sep 14th 2003
140
      All Four of You Posters
Sep 15th 2003
152
           *uncurling pinkie*
Sep 15th 2003
165
                You got some Huge Hands
Sep 16th 2003
177
My Thoughts
Sep 13th 2003
121
everyone knows the artist board okp's are crazy
Sep 13th 2003
122
THAT'S WHAT DA FUCK IM TALKIN' ABOUT!!!!
Sep 13th 2003
124
they stab mercilessly in gd.
Sep 14th 2003
131
sup ?uest... saw u in nyc @ Flow
Sep 13th 2003
129
some of y'all ask for too much
Sep 13th 2003
130
and you're helping the situation huh?
Sep 14th 2003
142
      who said i was here to help
Sep 14th 2003
148
           Motherfucks always playing RED CROSS
Sep 15th 2003
153
           no worries
Sep 15th 2003
164
well...
Sep 14th 2003
132
The biggest co-sign ever
Sep 15th 2003
155
wow.
Sep 15th 2003
156
you need to R.E.S.P.E.C.T. QlovE
Sep 15th 2003
158
RE: you need to R.E.S.P.E.C.T. QlovE
Sep 17th 2003
181
DOUBLE CO-SIGN!
Sep 15th 2003
175
RE: Is This The End?
Sep 14th 2003
133
lol
Sep 14th 2003
134
RE: Is This The End?
Sep 14th 2003
135
if it is the end...
Sep 14th 2003
141
c'mon now
Sep 14th 2003
143
they should
Sep 14th 2003
146
"Change Gonna Come"
Sep 14th 2003
147
Co-Siggy!!!....
Sep 15th 2003
174
Common Denominator of the haters
Sep 14th 2003
150
Quest VS. Frankenstein...
Sep 14th 2003
151
easier solution
Sep 15th 2003
157
RE: easier solution
Sep 15th 2003
171
shiiiit
Sep 15th 2003
166
damn....thats a good ass idea.....
Sep 15th 2003
167
You stuuupid
Sep 16th 2003
178
He still deserves the standing ovy!!!...
Sep 15th 2003
172
RLMAO on some ol New Edition shit
Sep 16th 2003
179
Walk good ?uest
Sep 16th 2003
180
loyalty
Sep 18th 2003
184
last words: the bootleg.
Sep 22nd 2003
185
very well said.
Sep 22nd 2003
186
dude-
Sep 22nd 2003
187
it was Dolemite's post in General
Sep 22nd 2003
188
      again, sir, you are correct
Sep 22nd 2003
189
True
Sep 22nd 2003
191
I have no comments on ?uest's decision...
Sep 22nd 2003
190
RE: Is This The End?
Oct 01st 2003
192
RE: Is This The End?
Oct 01st 2003
193

promochaos
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Fri Sep-12-03 02:56 AM

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1. "RE: Is This The End?"
In response to Reply # 0


          

?uesto....
DON'T GO. All this negativity has been spawned by a small group of haters. You know DAMN well that 99.9% of the heads on these boards have NUTHIN but love for ya. I've been a Roots fan for about 8 years, and I've been reading this site for for about 4 years and have been honored that a member of my favorite group is down-to-earth enough that he will come into these groups and discuss the music that the band is making.

Just my .02

-CHAOS

In The Deck:
"BE"-Common
"The Minstreal Show"-Little Brother
"The Rising Tied"-Fort Minor
"Organix"-The Roots
"Long Hot Summer"-Masta Ace

  

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Seeibattle_
Member since Sep 02nd 2003
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Fri Sep-12-03 08:21 AM

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39. "RE: Is This The End?"
In response to Reply # 1


          

damn, first the fat boys break up, and now this! Don't let the actions of the few dictate the outcome for the many,. . please?!?


www.deejayemcee.com

www.thesnapclap.com

  

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Yank
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Fri Sep-12-03 03:20 AM

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2. "what did I miss"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

-

Lies run sprints.
Truths run marathons.

  

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qoolquest
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Fri Sep-12-03 03:37 AM

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3. "in a nutshell"
In response to Reply # 0


          

i'm taking my own advice.
all the time i tell cats--if you hate it here so much...why come?
more than that...i kinda have an actual life--like socially. i'll still be around, but come on--even y'all can admit that the psychological effects of every move i do getting talked about can be a pain in the ass.


and i just don't think mothfuckers round here know what constructive critisism is. either you get cats that blame you for being given a short show time or if they provide you with bad speakers. or if you don't happen to do the song they would like to hear--then all of a sudden your show sucks.

or since you didn't follow up your last shit with more of the same shit then all of a sudden you fell off. i can take and appreciate an explanation---but then every 2 seconds a mofo is ambulance chasing every post you on to make sure you know you suck....

or why work with this group?

i'm really in a new phase (see the believer) now. i havn't abandoned the place....but there is a world out there and i refuse to make priority being on this site 5 hours a day...specially if i have to provide the news round here (i can see it now...."song titles for tipping point", "why can't they just name this album something regular like CLONES or THE BLACK ALBUM)

funny shit was i didn't even think y'all knew i aint posted on a regular basis in 2 weeks.

but oh gee/sus to answer your question.

"hell to the yes"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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RamXL
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Fri Sep-12-03 03:42 AM

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4. "uhm"
In response to Reply # 3


  

          

>
>i'm really in a new phase (see the believer) now.

damn...i wish i hadnt read this.

one,
-ram


"shit, been the same since '86 and kane"

  

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Damali
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Sat Sep-13-03 03:20 PM

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118. "i don't understand that part."
In response to Reply # 4


          


  

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yoplay
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Fri Sep-12-03 03:54 AM

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5. "damn"
In response to Reply # 3


  

          

if that's the case, thanks for everything, and all the effort you put into this place before. i would've gotten sick of all that shit too, but it was always cool getting to hear things from "the inside."

there comes a time in every mans life when he's gotta handle shit up on his own Can't depend on friends to help you in a squeeze, please they got problems of their own---slim kid3

  

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OceanBrooks
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Fri Sep-12-03 03:55 AM

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6. "RE: in a nutshell"
In response to Reply # 3


          

Have fun with ur new found free time

y don't u take up another hobby
like rolling spliffs for d'angelo
its a useful skill to acquire especially if u don't smoke
smokers always want someone else to roll up
u guys might even be friends again

if u don't wanna go that route i'm sure u'll find lots to do
like parties and bullsh*t

thanx for being around and postin stuff
i personally will miss ur posts but i'm sure there are much more fun things u could be doin with those 5 hours

oh plz hand ur supernerd ID back to Cool Nerds R Us
and pick up a party nerd introductory pack

Takeiteasy

  

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BigWorm
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Fri Sep-12-03 03:57 AM

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7. "it's a shame but"
In response to Reply # 3


          

man that's just an aesthetic of your fan base. I prolly would've gotten fed up a while ago, but in the end it is a matter of 'can't take the heat...'

Iunno. It must be rough, but at least you always got an ear to what your main fanbase is thinking...?

Jewel and DC Talk prolly likely get a whole nuther ball of wax when they click through their sites.

Whatever. I'd likely be singing a different tune if I were an okayartist. And y'all get plenty of love round here. But it's also good to know when fans and true heads think you played yourself for a sucka with this one track...

You must know all this. I'm just saying tho.

1Love,
Shuggy

  

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Yank
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8. "niggas always gotta fuck it up"
In response to Reply # 3


  

          

for errybody else


Much deserved R and R. See ya next time in DA "D"!!!!!

Lies run sprints.
Truths run marathons.

  

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theMindofFury
Member since Feb 26th 2003
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Fri Sep-12-03 03:58 AM

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9. "RE: in a nutshell"
In response to Reply # 3


  

          

To those that caused the problems, who are responsible for this, GET A FUCKING LIFE! I love coming to the site, not to read about anything you have to say, but to maybe hear some backstage/inside info/behind the scenes shit from ?, Skillz, etc. Now that's no more. Way to fucking go.

C

"This brother is free. I'll be what I want to be."

"This brother is free; I'll be what I want to be."

hatesdeep.blogspot.com

  

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Nabs
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Fri Sep-12-03 03:59 AM

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10. "RE: in a nutshell"
In response to Reply # 3


  

          

I doubt I could have lasted here as long as you have. Most of this stuff here has gotten pretty silly. As you said, many people dont know what ccnstructive critism is.

I think if you were to get a Roots + Cee-Lo + Nas collaboration going you'd feel a ton better. *ehem...but then someone would complain that Nas refered to the unemployment rate and was off a quarter of a percent, and how Cee-lo's verse doesn't match that of GOD, oh, and how the Roots are no longer Hip-hop.

  

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SoWhat
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Fri Sep-12-03 04:08 AM

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12. "i don't blame you."
In response to Reply # 3


  

          


fuck you.

  

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Tank
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Fri Sep-12-03 04:13 AM

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13. "Can't blame you at all."
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I think I would were I in your position.

---
"It's easy to blur the truth with a simple linguistic trick: start your story from "Secondly."" -- Mourid Barghouti

  

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Menphyel7
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14. "In Lil Jon Voice"
In response to Reply # 3


  

          

"DAMN"

I always liked to read to your responses and industry insight you'll be missed.

http://twitter.com/Menphyel7


"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

  

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Steve
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Fri Sep-12-03 04:28 AM

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15. "I noticed..."
In response to Reply # 3


  

          

I would understand why you'd be weary...
but folks are gonna miss your posting..
but do you

and fuck the haters LOL.

shiet I dont even post anymore except to delete and lock stuff

  

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DJ Oddysey
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16. "Damn dog....I feel u though"
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Some of us (self included at times) can be ass holes. I cant even be mad at you kid. Thanks for buidling this place up though man

<~~~~~~~--------~~~~~~~>

Just Give me 10 minutes...

Romans 10:4 - "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believeth."

Howard University is officially in the building folks

Inaugural Member, OkaySports Hall of Fame and proud resident of le nord de la Jersey (The North of Jersey)

(c) DJ Oddysey


Education doesn't come from simply obeyin
the curriculum, of the school criteria
In fact what I learned I found inferior (c) KRS-One

"Okayplayer: Its not just a website, It's a lifestyle...."


RIP Granny
RIP Aunt Jan
RIP Uncle Kenneth

I know Jesus Christ...the real Jesus Christ...

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Spread
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Fri Sep-12-03 04:48 AM

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17. "I feel you"
In response to Reply # 3


  

          

I ain't been on okayartist in a while, but I been thinking of not posting myself. or just posting one word at a time, cuz it's the ones with no true personal lives that are taking over and being cyber-bullies. Kinda the mean bus-driver, asshole rent-a-cop, bad homelife meter-maid syndrome.
I'm also trying to come up in the game and lately I've been feeling my okayplayer-life might actually hurt my status or credibility.
And it's funny, you wonder why so many people come here when they have nothing good to say about The Roots, erykah, D', Common, Talib or Dilated. It's one thing to have a certain taste, but it's another thing to go to church with a pentagram tattoed on your forhead. Why go to BBQ Heaven when you a vegan?
anyway, I'd like to thank ?uest for giving people a real inside veiw of the biz and the genre and opening people to new stuff and giving us the scoop that Baskin Robbins ain't even got.
Good luck. Maybe we'll meet one day in real life. Respect

yep

  

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dro
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Fri Sep-12-03 05:24 AM

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22. "this place"
In response to Reply # 3


  

          

definately wasn't what it was 4 years ago.

i definately cosign with what you and a lot of other people have said, and i wish others would take heed to this advice, but unfortunatley, i'd say about 75% of the posters here do not follow these basic rules:

1. THIS IS A ROOTS FAN SITE. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM DON'T COME.
2. DON'T COMPLAIN THAT THEY DIDN'T PLAY ONE RANDOM SONG AT THE SHOW YOU WENT TO. THEY CAN'T PLEASE EVERYONE.
3. IF YOU ARE GOING TO DISAGREE WITH SOMTHING THE ROOTS HAVE DONE, BACK THAT SHIT UP. THIS IS THE MAIN REASON WHY OKP IS NOT WHAT IT WAS. PEOPLE SAY "THE ROOTS SUCK NOW" "THEY'RE NOT HIPHOP" AND LEAVE LIKE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE A BAND WHO WILL DO THEIR OWN THING, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.

If this is your goodbye post, and please don't see the following as "dick riding," because i have definately tried to offer some "constructive criticism" since i've been here, i'd like to say

thank you. thank you for actually taking the time to interact with your fans while you are in the midst of a business that often only sees fans as album sales. I hope that for the 4 years i've been here, (fall of 99 i believe...) i have done none other than offer thoughtful, and constructive posts, explanations, evidence, etc in my opinions expressed on these boards. i don't blame you or your colleauges for hating this place. shit, i feel for you. i actually think the reason my post count is so low is that there just isn't enough stuff on here i feel the need to add my opinion to, because most of it is bullshit.

good luck w/ having a real social life outside the boards. just keep us updated on the album, aight? lookin forward to its new sound. fuck the narrow minded haters. ya'll are on some next shit that i beleive that no one may ever totally "get."

peace
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25. "ten: theogony quest"
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i still want my apology

  

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26. "damn homey..."
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can't blame for not posting, it sucks around here anymore. it was nice getting you're take on shit....

with that said, "how come you guys didn't play Proceed IV at the liquid mix in philly?"

  

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32. "I still wub you"
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*hug*

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35. "RE: in a nutshell"
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yknow it sucks that some had to ruin it for everyone.
i liked reading ?uest's thoughts and opinions and thought it was the coolest thing to be talking to a member of my favorite band.
i have stirred up some shit here but none to the point of driving anyone insane. i have critisized very constructively and now we don't even get to read what ?uest has got to say anymore b/c of the ppl who come here to fuck around.
its sad that this had to happen. now we move on.

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36. "Be easy, ?uest"
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shit...

made a nigga un-lurk. Respect, ?uesto. Know that your posts are appreciated.

...feel so vulnerable...

must. lurk. again.

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Niggas just don't know.


...y'know?

  

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70. "RE: Be easy, ?uest"
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same here

  

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40. "Pink FLoyd "The Wall" . . . goodbye cruel world,"
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I'm leaving,
today;
goodbye,
goodbye,
goodbye.

(mad wrist-slitting)

Thanks for all the memories.

(I guess this is as close to going "Cobain" as someone as grounded as Quest could do) Peace out.

diggs

libel, n. 1. the form of DEFAMATION in which the defamatory statement is communicated in writing or another medium having a degree of permanence, such as film.

  

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45. "well i can't blame you"
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and to be truthful, people who talk shit need to get a fuckin life.

the internet is huge. you dont have to talk shit on the roots on their own website for thousands of posts.

?uest, you'll be missed by people who come here because they like the Roots and other okayartists, not because they're dickheads with nothing else better to do.

thus ends one of the most involved musicians in terms of speaking with fans...especially on the internet.


the only thing i can ask is if you could post reviews, liner notes, etc. cuz you wouldn't have to put up with assholes.

or do Shawn Gee's idea about a new message board.

  

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48. "eff em dawg..."
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go to sports.

  

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52. "i respect that"
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trouble is, not i can see people being bitches even more than before because they don't need to worry about the big famous musician who posts here seeing their negative comments. but really though, that's cool.

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www.wingnutjazz.com <--- !!!!!!
peace & love

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peace & love

  

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54. "RE: in a nutsack"
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that's why i spend 99% of my internet experience on porn. and the other 1% goes to mapquest.

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81. "further proof that you're still an OKP"
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ghetto dope...Fifth Ward, Texas

  

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107. "lol"
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www.wingnutjazz.com <--- !!!!!!
peace & love

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peace & love

  

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56. "peace man"
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this is the internet, the place where people come to bitch. you shouldnt let the 20% ruin it for the 80%



peace though

  

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59. "Jesus, man."
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I aint been here in awhile and I come back to this?
Hell, I knew it was coming. But damn. This makes me sad.

But yeah, you gotta live your life, right?

  

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62. "do not fret, my son"
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Isaiah 33

The sinners in Zion are terrified;
trembling grips the godless:
"Who of us can dwell with the consuming fire?
Who of us can dwell with everlasting burning?"

-
I'm fightin it back, now snap, where they at?
When it's time to go to combat, guess who's back?!

Now I'm face to face with the devils
Cause they breedin more rebels than the whole damn ghetto
And police brutality
Shit it put you in the nip and c

  

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76. "Sad but truly bitter."
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"i refuse to make priority being on this site 5 hours a day..."

Ummm...Quest..I waas a big fan of the group "the Roots" mainly because of you. It firstly amazed me that a dark skinned cat that looked like a statesmen with the long beard..and the conflicting appearance of the blowout was craazy. Your connection with my vocal godfather d'angelo was a plus, and then the jigga connection sealed it for me. I appreciate the real, it os eveidenced in my walk, my talk, my dress, my songs that I write, and the way in which I sing.

I say all that to say, if you leave...you left..Your presence and quick wit will be missed..but I hope that you don't lose yourself to the dogs of self-doubt and self-consciousness...and the yes-men...just cause a nigga critticize your shit don't mean quit doing what brought you the fame. You keep working.
At any rate, maybe it's best, cause that last tirade about outkast not licking your boots enough on tour was trey-weird, especially coming off of your fingerttips homie. Good Luck with the new site and things. Later.

King James Bible states in (1st Corinthians 14:8-9)-"..Again, If the trumpet does NOT sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle?..So it is with you."

For an audible glimpse of my sound, click here: http://www.zshare.net/audio/9549455779abe02a/

  

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77. "you did me a favor way back..."
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i dont think you realized it was me you were doing the favor for but in any case i'll never forget that, so peace be with you and good luck!

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138. "he did alot of favors"
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i can co0sign to that there

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80. "shit...whaleboy dont like my music neither"
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137. "lol"
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man, he don't like none of our shit. He probably found out I'm from Barbados, and doesn't even click my link.

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::(www.billykincaid.com):: Billy Kincaid: Barbados Hip-Hop Dynasty

"(Murder Inc's men) were a bunch of kittens and DJs, because all I got was scratches."
- Proof of D-12 speaking on his attack by a Murder Inc.-related posse

"Shit, I'm 'bout to kick some Trick Daddy next poetry night/ Like, 'My Black Queen... don't know nann nigga!'"
- Phonte (Little Brother), "The Yo-Yo"

"(Keith Murray's album) won't drop. Def Jam dropped him because he dropped somebody at Def Jam."
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88. "Don't take this the wrong way ?uest..."
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becuase I got mad respect for you.....but all this shit that's happenin', is a direct result of what you wanted.

"A place for people to dickride you."

Remember that?

And YOU pay for it.

I think all this shit that's goin' on is unnecessary and irritating (as you do), but this is the starting point of fame.

And that IS what you wanted right? To be loved and adored rather than respected? (hence you feeling the need to quote one of Ice Cube's biggest hits in your sig...)

RESPECT brings modest props and intelligent discussion...

ADORATION brings fickle ass fans who can't up their mind as to what they wanna REALLY do: ride the dick or diss you at every chance they get because they know it will irritate you.

But oh, you pay for that.

Since I never said so before, you can tell from the tone of my response that I found that comment disheartening. (When I read it, my INSTANT thought was: "I come here to have intelligent conversation about this cat's work with him, and I'm a dickrider?")

I've been here since the beginning, and I've seen how things have been going.

The decline started when YOU decided you wanted a dickriding club.

And remember - a REAL muthafucka will tell you about yourself without fear of what you think of him for telling you.

I didn't like Phren, so what? I still buy the records.


The Former ?uesto-endorsed Player Of The Week who shamelessly mentions at any given moment.

Oh, and by the way, for those of you who keep asking, the following is the tracklist for the Dwele album, according to atruhead:

1)Smooth Shit For The Hoes (Intro)
2)I'm A Sensitive Lover
3)Snap your fingers for the dwele (boho riddim)
4)I'm Still Too Smooth (interlude)
5)Humble Mumble
6)Soothing Vibes
7 - 16) some more shit atruhead doesnt give a fuck about

Balcony Music, Volume Four
AVAILABLE NOW
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93. "i co-sign all of this"
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except i liked phrenology.

"...let my children hear music - for God's sake - they have had enough noise."
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173. "RE: Don't take this the wrong way ?uest..."
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CO-SIGN!!! TREBLE

Check This "http://www.dangelosangels.com"

"Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more; it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing."

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99. "Yeah, These Mutherfuckers..."
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..are very critical, cynical and negative; the internet breeds these mutherfuckers with balls.

Well questo, I've enjoyed reading your insight on various types of music on this board especially your interpretations of songs off of "The Headphone Masterpiece", not to mention, your tmi posts in general discussion

Keep makin' that funky shit.

Peace.

  

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106. "is that a Fred G. Sanford reference?"
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I can think of one instance where I was "guilty" of what someone would call a ride. For awhile I would be asking "hey ?uest, can I do a remix?" I was guilty of the one thing I hate about kissing ass in the music industry. Yet one has to make moves in order to get ahead, except I did it in a wrong manner. Should I have done it within proper channels? Sure. So ?uest, I do apologize for my tactics there, because I'm sure you keep track of a lot of what's going on on the boards.

When I became a moderator, having the "OK" by my name was not a move to make my name sound like a chicken. That is a privledge, and I felt I could not make ass moves like that. Thus I've stopped.

As a fan, I think it is great when an artist interacts with the fans. But when it comes at the cost of what you just said, people monitoring every move, you have every right to do whatever you want.

Either way, regardless if you post again or remain ?uiet, you have eternal respect from me. Take care.


p.e.a.c.e.
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SHAPES ONE comp on , featuring Crut's "eBay Trauma Center", released September 1, 2003.

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110. "i understand completely but i think its DUMB"
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when folks on here feel its wrong to completely bash an album.

if someone feels phrenology SUCKS, why should they have to explain themselves?

it's a cot damn message board, did u expect everyone on here to be a "yes man"?

  

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112. "that's a good idea *gives your post the evil eye*"
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>if someone feels phrenology SUCKS, why should they have to
>explain themselves?

Seriously. When school starts back up, and there's a moment of silence in class ... I'll just be like "Dude, naw man. That book effing sucked bro." And just leave it at that. What's the use of elaborating. I mean, what's the use of writing a well developed paper anyway; why not just turn in a thesis statement.

>it's a cot damn message board, did u expect everyone on here
>to be a "yes man"?

Well I'm guessing that you actually believe this to be the case, since you're blatantly fighting fire with fire. "Well if he just wants a 'Yesss man' --- eff it, I'm going to be a 'NO man'. No explanation needed. When I have an opinion, I jump in and take a ish. I say ish, mean ish and back it up with ish". Don't be ish mayne *doo doo face*

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144. "wow"
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145. "ok, this is so ironic it's funny"
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I'll decipher from your shock and silence that you either think I was too harsh, or I was just wrong. I'll agree that the sarcasm was laid pretty thickly in my reply (sorry if it offended you) , but you're the one who said "people should be able to BASH an album". I wasn't even bashing your statement ... I disagreed with sarcasm, gave my opinion and supported it.
"To engage in harsh, accusatory, threatening criticism" is what you think OKPs should be able to do, and without support to boot. To that my friend, I say wow.


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TekzillaOhioSt
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163. "no, it wasnt a wow im hurt/offended"
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it was "wow, is this lame serious?"

one of those things you just shake your head at and go about your day....

  

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176. "Toushe guy"
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But, yes I was just as "serious" as your first reply; thanks for your input. I love it when someone lays down an argument, someone replies with input: and all that results from there is patronizing. I would "bash" your "wow is this lame serious?" if there was more of an opinion there -- but no, there's just name-calling so...

Feel free to actually answer why you feel it's your right to "bash" something -- aside from the fact that you're sitting in the sanctity of your home where your rude and haughty modes of speaking are protected.

I'm serious -- you should be too.

*waves to you as you "leave to go about your day" where your opinions are much more timidly given*

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111. "your sig..."
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".....dudes be asking ?uestlove yo when will you bust, they surround me and make a big fuss, now i was taught back on my block, that you don't ride on nobody's jock. for anything they do: FUCK HIM and HIS crew--unless you are getting paid too. i'm not saying this to dis each and every fan: women you can ride...but men be a man, shake my hand, and make it a firm shake, say "whatup QUESTO!" and then break---cause if you don't hear imma tell you loud and clear: "GET OFF MY D---........(sigh)...who do i sign this to again?"

you don't appreciate the love you get...then complain about the negativity...

i'm saying no more

  

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170. "It's just an Ice Cube quote"
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with ?uest's name switched with Cube's

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182. "i know"
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but i'm sayin, he put it in his sig and switched names to express himself right?

i COULD be wrong but i doubt it

so i stand by my statement

  

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161. "RE: in a nutshell"
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Questo I appricate all you do dog. The problem with people aroound here is they do not understand you guys are artists and this is a business. You have to make your money and you cna work with who ever they hell you want. Who cares if its John Mayer, I have acctually considered checking him out since all the dope things you said about him. This site and you have definitely diversified my muscial taste. Thank you Quest and keep it up you are the shit.

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162. "it's quite simple..."
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...but yeah, it sucks.

and I don't even have to read the rest of this rapidly snowballing thread to say it.

Your accessability and the cut-throat nature of internet culture put yourself right in the crosshairs of the cult of personality, something that I've found intriguing for a number of years and I think about alot. I mean, I'm a nobody. Just one of thousands of local artists that can be found in any town doing their thing. And I find it funny that even at this level folks still treat me weird, or with some sort of reverence because of what I do. It has to be a hundred times more intense for you. And you aren't even a mega-star, except most megastars don't invest this much in their fans.

It's a strange psychology, this celebrity fascination. I swear that some psych doctoral student needs to a do a dissertation on it. I'm sure it's already been done actually.

The lenses of fame (ephemeral, often be warped, usually manipulated by a good publicist) and the intimate nature of how some folks consume their entertainment (ie, thinking they know the soul of an artist personally because they were touched by a song of theirs) can stir up frenzies of fixation and worship. Then you have the internet which allows folks that previously only had a pea-shooter for their pathologies to magnify them into a bazooka that they can aim indiscriminately and anonymously. They can gratify themselves by scratching those itches of personal issues and image obsession that they usually aren't even fully aware of. The quick fix of the internet doesn't lend itself to thinking too deeply about one's motivations though. All the easier to feed the dysfunctional ones.

Your accessibility just made you a buffet for all that madness. All you can eat. I'm not around these parts much but what I see occasionally (and am looking more into due to this) is just fucking ridiculous but sadly not surprising.

If you roll out, I'll feel deprived of some very interesting insights but I won't be disappointed at all. You've got much more tolerance than most. People's behavior is so outlandish to me, and even crazier it's considered acceptable by many. On top of that, people feel ENTITLED to this shit. Like, what official document can people present to show their birthright to attacking folks just because they're in the public eye, or because they're just another random individual like themselves who makes a convenient target on whom to project their own issues? Why would anyone want to deal with it?

I'll just wait patiently for the next record and count this as another sign that my general cynicism is warranted.

An interesting experiment it's been so far though, maybe you can get a dope magazine article out of it.

.:|djstylus|:.
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11. "i feel you but"
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kept away too many of his
>friends that would like to participate (Com, Kweli, Macy,
>LB, Badu)?

i can't roll with this. it hasn't stopped them from trying to get on mtv and BET. hell. it's assholes there that won't even play their music. but they'd still go there.

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18. "thats different"
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i have no time to say why, but it is

and even if that were true..we're not mtv, bet, etc
but yet a lot of people are acting like they are when it comes to RELENTLESS criticism, prying, and disrespect

  

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58. "i don't see it that way"
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see my next response below

we must protect...this..house...
will you protect this HOW-WOOSE?


"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

  

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20. "when's the last time okayplayer was handing out paychec"
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I didn't even think the moderators got paid.
i bet BET even pays that annoying Cita bitch who ain't even real. You can't blame somebody for trying to get paid and get known by the real world.
For real, I don't know if yall realise it, but everytime I mention okayplayer, my boys look at me like I'm crazy. Don't nobody care about what goes on in cyberspace on my block. It's cool to get the inside scoop this way, but yall done turned this place out.

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60. "okp DOES hand out paychecks"
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Cause as soon as common came on this site he went gold. he got a bigger paycheck. WE did that. I didn't recognize nor even have and urge to buy some of these ok artists, till this site came up. frill.

i mean who the fuck was voting on mtv every day posting "i voted" trying to get his video played? okayplayers

and you don't know if okp gets paid or if the artists get paid for being an ok artist. so somebody Is getting a pay check. if they used this site as a tool, they'd probably sell more records. period.

every time I hear that "talib" is pissed off about something on this site I make the "dookie face" (c) babs. cause while okay players were buying his albums. fuckin spitkicker dot com ain't have shit but an unlinkable picture of a mic on it.

Im sorry quest this is your shit but my opinion is, if an artist is gonna complain about this site, when their ass doesn't even use it to it's fullest potential that's just foolish to me. ain't nothing wrong with going on 106 n park. but realize that the only time they gonna play your shit is the day you are there, and you got people here ready to pump your shit, buy your shit, play your shit at parties, going to see your shows, publicizing your shit, defending your shit, spreading the word on your shit. if you gonna shit on those folks, cause of some assholes in the mist, all the while cheezing on mtv and BET well then, what can I say?

damn would you rather come here where 50 percent of a small population is saying "your shit is wack" or rather go to BET/MTV where 85% of a much larger audience/powers that be is sayin "your shit is wack, we can't play that"

quest said it himself, these artists have die hard fans here. fucking "use" them then. he's even said he tries to get artists to come on here.

if you are just gonna come on here when your album drops and say thank you, then be out. if you gonna come back and say some joking shit like "internet punks", or have your manager come on here when you think someone may leak a remix or just come on here when some negativity is here, then don't complain about the negativity when that's all you seem to pay attention to.

this site is a valuable tool here. Tracy and Merc had mofo's calling mca one time. more cats bought their album, because of this site.

it's 2003 artists. learn to use a pc, get one, and interact with your fans. y'all ain't THAT big. you see where that "on the mountain shit" got mike Jackson. and y'all okp's quit making excuses for some of these cats. they are grown folks I respect them but Jeezus. Understand that shit you do, or don't do is affecting your shit.


>I didn't even think the moderators got paid.

former mod. to answer your question no
>i bet BET even pays that annoying Cita bitch who ain't even
>real. You can't blame somebody for trying to get paid and
>get known by the real world.

read this
http://www.okayplayer.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=21669&forum=general1&viewmode=threaded


>For real, I don't know if yall realise it, but everytime I
>mention okayplayer, my boys look at me like I'm crazy.

as they probably should

>Don't nobody care about what goes on in cyberspace on my
>block. It's cool to get the inside scoop this way, but yall
>done turned this place out.

what are you talking about?


we must protect...this..house...
will you protect this HOW-WOOSE?


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90. "To THESE lazyboi comments:"
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>Im sorry quest this is your shit but my opinion is, if an
>artist is gonna complain about this site, when their ass
>doesn't even use it to it's fullest potential that's just
>foolish to me. ain't nothing wrong with going on 106 n
>park. but realize that the only time they gonna play your
>shit is the day you are there, and you got people here ready
>to pump your shit, buy your shit, play your shit at parties,
>going to see your shows, publicizing your shit, defending
>your shit, spreading the word on your shit. if you gonna
>shit on those folks, cause of some assholes in the mist, all
>the while cheezing on mtv and BET well then, what can I say?
>
>damn would you rather come here where 50 percent of a small
>population is saying "your shit is wack" or rather go to
>BET/MTV where 85% of a much larger audience/powers that be
>is sayin "your shit is wack, we can't play that"

ESPECIALLY this one:

>if you are just gonna come on here when your album drops and
>say thank you, then be out. if you gonna come back and say
>some joking shit like "internet punks", or have your manager
>come on here when you think someone may leak a remix or just
>come on here when some negativity is here, then don't
>complain about the negativity when that's all you seem to
>pay attention to.

co-signs.

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136. "Me too."
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cosiggidydiggidy.

This site IS a tool. Not taking advantage is a waste. Would I have heard of Talib Kweli without okayplayer? Would I keep on buying Roots albums without okayplayer? etc. etc.

  

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19. "Yo Qool!!"
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Yo I don't think i've ever responded to any one of your posts, but i read damn near everything you write. I enjoy reading your posts cause i'm a huge fan of your music and i like to read what the architect of the Roots has to say on almost everything. Most of the time your on point, and if i think your not, what the fuck does my opinion matter anyway. In my opinion your one of the coolest dudes in music today. I've seen the band over 20 times and never been let down. before my kids were born is was at every show with in a 3 state radius. I'm in the dc area, i've traveled to MD, WVA, NY, PA, GA, and NC to see you guys play, whether it be part of a festival type show, college show, or just the group by itself. Keep doin what your doin and playing good music.

Holla!

  

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21. "you mofos did it"
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i fucking told you whaleboy and the like

always fucking whining, not look what you done did

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23. "For a While......."
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theres been too many idiots on these boards.a lot of times i will click on the button to reply,say to myself,"whats the point?" and go back.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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24. "exactly"
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peace
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28. "but honestly"
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we saw this coming for a looooong time
we seem to have a tradition of assholes around here

its just not fun to shell out top dollar, and then be busted

and there is never criticism, just negativity

like northern state shit, it was reactionary, and that was still the greatest degree of real "critcism" we've seen

but i guess its inevitable...new stage, new shit


new fans hopefully inject this place with shit so it is like it used to be

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27. "...?"
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?uest is talented, but he ain't the reason i come to okp anyways. com is the artist that drew me here, and he don't hardly ever post.



  

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29. "these assholes ran THE FOUNDER off his own site."
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that's like rednecks running david duke out the KLAN, man!!

give ya selves a hand, you uptight, hypercritical and pretentious so and so's.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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might or might not do to said females are based on Torez as a Single man
not the CURRENT married Torez (unless i'm calling one'a y'all a slur, in which
case it applies RIGHT NOW...)


SHHHAWWWTTTYY!!! What my NAME III-UUHHH??!!


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30. "hmmmmm..."
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>or the 1000
>"fmwj....why I hate Phrenology"

how does this not fall into constructive criticism? you can't hate something anymore?


>Is he REALLY considering starting another site with password
>protected (and possibly pay) sections where he can converse
>with true fans that will offer true constructive criticism
>without constant "bashing"?

sounds like he's looking for a bunch of yes-men.

  

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33. "RE: hmmmmm..."
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>>or the 1000
>>"fmwj....why I hate Phrenology"
>
>how does this not fall into constructive criticism? you
>can't hate something anymore?

Of course you can HATE whatever you want....and I don't mean to single out fmwj because there are many more that are far worse than him, but his criticism which became overkill sticks out in my mind. For example, when Phrenoology first came out fmwj did a review of the album, song for song, gave his opinion on each song and his theory which supported his opinion. It was a great critical post......when I read it I forwarded it to my partner and we (the Roots management team) both appreciated his opinion, agreed with some of it and disagreed with some...but it provoked thought. HOWEVER, after the initial post fmwj continued to post in every single thread how much he hated the record.....he started numerous othe posts talking about how much he hated the record, and even when there was a positive post or two, he would immediately blast the post with his opinions...this went on for weeks. Now the first post or first coupe stating your opinion is cool...whether its negative or positive....but we don't need nor do we appreciate ecessive feedback from either extreme dickriders or extreme critics. and that is what I see happening is the extremists who post "I hate E Circus" 20 times a day are outweighing those critical fans that we could use as a barometer when trying to gauge the response of our fanbase. This (OKP.com) could easily just be a marketing vehicle where we shove shit down your throats but ?uest wanted to truly interact with the community to see what his fans (and those who weren't necessarily fans) were thinking, but it has turned into a "how many times can I let u know that I think TFA was wack" community


>>Is he REALLY considering starting another site with password
>>protected (and possibly pay) sections where he can converse
>>with true fans that will offer true constructive criticism
>>without constant "bashing"?
>
>sounds like he's looking for a bunch of yes-men.

No sir (or ma'am), he is looking for a group of people that will give him an honest opinion that he can engage in intelligent conversations with and use their opinions as a sample of the way the entire Roots fanbase feels about a song, a movie, a show or whatever else. That's all.....no yes men, no dickriders, no extremists, just a cool group of people that he can converse with.

If you can't understand that and you don't think the conversation on the boards have been extreme, then oh well.


"Ernest Lee is Shorty. In the Little Leagues, he can front like hes something important, but any attempt to move into the big time leaves him exposed, shocked, and utterly outclassed". - (taken from the Blowhard league archives)

  

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38. "ok this is getting silly"
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this is an open forum (i thought). Which means that ppl will have opinions. Now if there is an over abundance of the same point of view...DELETE IT. I feel Shawn, but you cant have it all. Welcome to celebrity. Where you get a lot of love, but with love comes hate. Ive seen a lot of love on this site and i just dont want this to turn into another celebrity bo hooing because they feel they are gettin hated on. This is part of the dream you have been working on for almost half your life. Shit my moms a flight attendant. its always a chance her plane could crash. ITS PART OF THE JOB. Yall starting to sound like George Clooney lol. This is a very resourceful and rare website. Few artists interact with fans so be proud of what you have created. Now Quest if this is really having an effect on you, then maybe u do need to take a break. I find ppl miss you more when youre gone for a while anyway. Okay im done preaching. Just wanted to give my one cent. I hope it matters. I gots nuffin but love for okp. Thanks for all the useful info it provides. And thank you ?uest

It will happen......

It will happen.....

  

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78. "hallie lou ya"
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*********************
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89. "Bullshit Shawn..."
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>>sounds like he's looking for a bunch of yes-men.
>
>No sir (or ma'am), he is looking for a group of people that
>will give him an honest opinion that he can engage in
>intelligent conversations with and use their opinions as a
>sample of the way the entire Roots fanbase feels about a
>song, a movie, a show or whatever else. That's all.....no
>yes men, no dickriders, no extremists, just a cool group of
>people that he can converse with.

?uest MUST want yes men.

When I made my Phren post, I RESPECTFULLY worded my criticism and he ain't respond to that shit. I ain't post to "dickride", I posted to get feedback on WHY certain things were (or for that matter WEREN'T) done with this record. HE chose not to respond. That post died quicker than an ant in a stampede, but it wasn't ONE response on there from "qoolquest".

People make posts dissing him, he gets mad and responds.

I refuse to feed into the bullshit, and make a post to piss you off just to get your attention. I'm a grown ass man. Grown men don't do that shit.

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103. "you really believe that don't you?"
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You don't appreciate excessive dickriding as well as excessive hate? Then where were you when folks would bash a mere opinion on Little Brother that wasn't in agreement with it being a dope album? All I see you pointing out is hate, but I don't see you waving any flag for anti dick riding. Seems to me that's an contrived comment.

.....on the relentless search for my past post count...

  

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31. "RE: Is This The End?"
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On the net, everyone has their say.
If you let them.

I wouldnt leave just because you're always getting bashed.
For there are those that still appreciate your craft.

Good luck money.

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34. "RE: Filtering out the Assholes"
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maybe the privilege to continue being an okayplayer should come at a price...like there should be passwords with the purchase of new cds or other OKArtists merchandise....just a thought...damn just when i get on...ah well

NO BS I know a little girl named Alize Moet Johnson...*saying a prayer for her future*

  

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37. "I guess we'll never get those liner notes, now."
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41. "A Personal testimony"
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The Roots are the reason I found the love of my life. Before Questo and The Roots I only listened to what was on the radio. But I remember back in 1999 when I was in 9th grade,comming home from a basketball game turned to Rap City Top 10 countdown and saw " You Got Me". I then knew I had to buy the cd. So the next night while I was @ my hang out the mall I spent ALL my money on the " Things Fall Apart" cd. And tracks like "Act Too", and "Adrenaline" became my favorites. If it wasn't for The Roots I wouldn't be able to appericate music in the sense that I do today. But I said all of that to say I appericate your work, and i think alot of other Okayplayers do as well. So don't let a few assholes drive you off of your site. But if you do go, im going with you.

In Heavy rotation:
Love This Game-Slim Thug
The easy Spell-Mos Def
3Kings-Slim thug TIP Bun B.
My Mamma Said-Talib Kweli &
Sticman
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42. "RE: Is This The End?"
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If he left - or is considering leaving - or still reading but not posting - or whatever, I can not blame him.

Do your thing Mr. Questo.

http://mylouoord.com/ ●

  

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44. "RE: Is This The End?"
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I think what quest basically said was he's real busy now, and he doesn't have time to be postin on here all hours of the day. You know.... he has a job to do. people to see, places to go, shows to do, jams to be in. whatever, "in a nut shell," he has to go to work........

peace


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I was formerly thenextbestthing if you were wondering.

My name is in the middle of equality~ Talib Kweli

Slow up ak before you get dropped and closed like a caption~Black Thought

So many people focusin on black people extermination, but we keep it balanced with that knowledge of self determination~Talib Kweli in Blackstar

yea you pronounce my name kweli! any questions?-talib kweli-the blast

yeah you pronounce my name tariq..any questions?-Black Thought-Thought at Work

i just noticed that

"I'm sick of these clones/ spitten written sh** off the dome/im sendin em home/back/when I react to this track im gone" ~Me aka BL

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46. "RE: Is This The End?"
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Yeah that's understandeble, then why are people making such a big deal out of it?

http://mylouoord.com/ ●

  

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43. "he was gone two years ago"
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gone for me, anyway. things got so diluted as more and more people showed up that cool folks either left the site or formed their own insular communities (hello, sports board!). i give him credit--he tried to, ahem, "bridge the gap" for a lot longer than i did. he did everything he could to keep this a real community, but its sheer size overwhelmed everyone. success, like everything else, has its unintended consequences.

oh, well. i can tell my kids i played laser tag with the roots, and that they cheated like bastards. that's worth the whole thing.

----
bshelly

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47. "Well, hopefully you'll come around here at least to rea"
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I don't blame you in the least for leaving, or not posting as it were.

You really can only take so much hate for so long I guess...seems like people around here will call you a dickrider if you enjoyed Phrenology, or think it's awesome that one of their influences as a musician offers insight into what it's like being in The Roots nearly everyday, etc.

But I guess just know this: There are those of us who come around here and skim over just about everything else looking for a qoolquest post, cause...well, it's really what sets this board apart from just about every other board out there. I'll risk being called a dickrider to say I've enjoyed all your posts, even the ones that were obviously put up in frustration.

I still think Phrenology was the best album of 2002, and I still think The Roots are the best live band in music today, and I still get hyped on the shows no matter what. So, there are those of us out there. So get on with the social life cause God knows you deserve one...and please set up something to keep us updated on the new album.

Peace,
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49. "Fuck all of these people."
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You really shouldn't even be justifying yourself to these folks, ?uest. It's just some haters on the Internet. You don't owe them anything, all you did was put this site out FOR THEM. Maybe they're not all haters, maybe some of them even have legitimate arguments. If you're gonna make an exit, that's perfectly cool, but I hate to see you go out like you owe them something (Five hours a day? Damn). Personally I'd like to thank you for your music and this site. No, I don't like every Roots song, or have a silhouette of an afro tatooed on my chest. But I do appreciate your contribution to music and to my personal enjoyment of music. I hope you can get over all of this soon. Peace and good luck.

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50. "RE: Is This The End?"
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Funny though. I love his posts, but I was more than happy with my Roots experience before I knew there was a site I could go to and hear directly from the band.

And if those five extra hours in his day mean that he's putting out more music, gets a higher profile, and comes to New Zealand more often...

I'm happy.


  

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51. "That's Kinda Like Jay Leavin the Roc...."
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fuck that....for real cuz, this yo shit...why you gotta leave? i say you declare martial law and straight ban the muhfuckas thats pissin you off....and all that dynamic ip address shit is dead...set it up so that people withy them jounts can't even sign up....or, just lock shit on some password protected shit and give bammas invites....


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check out my squad and let me know what you think.....

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53. "he threatened Happy Harrington style endings"
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now that would be some sh*t

and now:

♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
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55. "RE: Is This The End?"
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Stupid fuckin' idiots.






-?westion pass the popcorn.

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57. "(singing)"
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you dont know what you got...till its gone...


*tear*

  

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61. "Get my name out of your fuckin mouth."
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I love the Roots. That why I came to this fuckin site. But i cant stand the dickriders. I cant stand Little Brother. I dont think there the greatest band around. There are better bands. But i respect the hell out of them
Now thats my last post

Albums in the ride
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63. "RE: Get my name out of your fuckin mouth."
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You sound like the kid that brings is ball to court then takes it home cause he doesnt like the way the game is played. This is the net. It gives assholes like me a voice.

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Bob Dylan - The Essential
The Stooges - Fun House
The White Stripes - Elephant
Ryan Adams - Heartbreaker

Karen O is my Goddess.
R.I.P Johnny Cash + John Ritter

































  

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91. "Yuuuuuuuuuuup........"
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>You sound like the kid that brings is ball to court then
>takes it home cause he doesnt like the way the game is
>played.

My thoughts exactly....

>This is the net. It gives assholes like me a voice.

Like it or not, he's right....

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64. "they got my name wrong again"
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65. "boo"
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sorry, always wanted to do that to you

  

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66. "haha"
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67. "This site isnt about the fans"
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Yeah

Albums in the ride
Bob Dylan - The Essential
The Stooges - Fun House
The White Stripes - Elephant
Ryan Adams - Heartbreaker

Karen O is my Goddess.
R.I.P Johnny Cash + John Ritter

































  

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68. "honestly"
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from jump I've been saying shit like that should be deleted - but cats are all about this 'free speech' shit - fuck that - you wouldn't use free speech in my house that I didn't like without me kicking you out. Folks who abuse should be deleted - if it was like that from day one other people wouldn't be so apt to think it's all good to say dumb shit.
I don't blame ?uest if he leaves or shuts it down. I've made some great friends here, but then again I've been disappointed in a lot of people too.

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69. "RE: F*CK MCA !!!!!"
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uhh, sorry....wrong post....I had a flashback for a second to the good ol days when summa y'all used to bash MCA (r.i.p.) instead of one of the hottest bands in the world.....

LG
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71. "haha!"
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true

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72. "good call."
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and now:

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75. "RE: F*CK MCA !!!!!"
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dat would be me.

heheh..
We fixed that though.

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73. "on the cool..."
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i spent the last two and a half hours, putting aside design work, thinking of something to write (sans my usual vitriol) in response to Shawn_Gee^OK's post, but realising i'd a) be retreading already worn ground with shit that makes perfect sense (although previously stated colourfully) and b) that which would have been said would fall on deaf ears by the one who probably needs to hear/read it most, i decided against it.

in short(er than this could have been).

have dan/aoxomoxoa delete both fwmj and chocolateboywonder accounts.

i won't be posting here any longer.

__________________________________


there is absolutely no logical reason for a grown man, 10 years my senior, to leave his own website because of a few people (and apparently, namely me since y'all keep tryin to make me famous) with unrelenting opinions about his most recent work, some of his more questionable business moves, backdoor hating on his ex-co-conspiritors, peers, and contemporaries, and backpeddling on previously held and quite sound ideals.

i don't come here now and didn't come here in '99 to ham it up with ?uest. being starstruck is not me. i came here to talk about music from time to time with folks i might grow to respect. but i realise there are many more people, mostly johnny-come-lately Roots fans (or johnny-come-lately rap fans in general), that are here to ham it up with ?uest/kiss ?uest and Co's ass than there are of me.

and as self important as i might appear to be, i'm not that self important to knowingly deprive hundreds to thousands of other people from getting out of www.okayplayer.com what it is they come here seeking. so i'm folding.

?uest, don't leave/change up the entire program on account of me (Whaleboy70/Rashid78/Mikedef2001 don't count because he's a fucking idiot that forgets to take his medication too often) and others with dissenting opinions that choose to state them in semi-comedic ways.

VR,
frank william miller, junior
fmiller@rice.edu | fwmj@fwmj.com

p.s. holla at them emails if you want a real ass opinion by someone that has nothing to gain by kissing your ass and not that of a 'Yes Man/Rider'.
p.p.s. people should pay me to be a 'No Man'.

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74. "Damn"
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Nicolay

|

Jamming your radar in 2003:

NICOLAY - "City Lights" hosted by LUNCHBOX
JUSTUS LEAGUE - "Mixtape Volume I: NC State Of Mind"
SUPASTITION - "Chain Letters" EP

Knockin' on ya door in 2004:

FOREIGN EXCHANGE (Phonte & Nicolay) - "Connected"


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79. "codamn"
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114. "cotdamn!"
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the is

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shakin your block with a 6 million dollar bop

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82. "It was your post chasing....."
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.....that did u in homey, you was on a mission or something.

"Ain't no future in yo frontin" -MC Breed

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86. "Wheeeeeeeeee!"
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92. ""No" men are in short supply here..."
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>have dan/aoxomoxoa delete both fwmj and chocolateboywonder
>accounts.

Too bad you leavin'....

>there is absolutely no logical reason for a grown man, 10
>years my senior, to leave his own website because of a few
>people (and apparently, namely me since y'all keep tryin to
>make me famous) with unrelenting opinions about his most
>recent work, some of his more questionable business moves,
>backdoor hating on his ex-co-conspiritors, peers, and
>contemporaries, and backpeddling on previously held and
>quite sound ideals.

(read earlier comment about "leaving the game with his basketball because he's mad at the rules")

>i don't come here now and didn't come here in '99 to ham it
>up with ?uest. being starstruck is not me. i came here to
>talk about music from time to time with folks i might grow
>to respect.

HELL-MUTHAFUCKIN'-O.

>but i realise there are many more people,
>mostly johnny-come-lately Roots fans (or johnny-come-lately
>rap fans in general), that are here to ham it up with
>?uest/kiss ?uest and Co's ass than there are of me.

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup.

>p.p.s. people should pay me to be a 'No Man'.

If you make that company, consider me for the Board Of Directors.

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95. "For the record."
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I think you rule.

Granted I have only paid attention to your posts recently, (I am a selective post reader), but I have enjoyed your participation on the boards. You make me laugh and laughter is the call of the day.

You obviously are intelligent and you are obviously opinionated. I like that in a person. On top of it, I like the way you phrase things. You portray a sharp wit, things like that make for better reading material.

I would prostrate myself before you, but quite frankly I think that is a bit over the top. ;o)

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102. "Co-sign (*no homo*)."
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|what the hell are you still doing driving a cab|

  

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108. "haha me too"
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- - - - -

www.wingnutjazz.com <--- !!!!!!
peace & love

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109. "and btw (i doubt you'll read this but whateverthefuck)"
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for the record, i pretty much agreed with everything i've read that you've said on these boards... along with that last statement you just made. completely.

- - - - -

www.wingnutjazz.com <--- !!!!!!
peace & love

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115. "yeah, what she said. n/m."
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128. "cosign"
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Took me a while... Hell it probably took most folks a while. But I've come to respect your participation here, even if you don't feel the same way about mine

  

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96. "I understand you completely"
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But what it is is that you and some other people, however valid or well-thought out your opinions are, you state them and it reads like an attack.

plus the way you followed him around Okayplayer talkin bout how much phrenology sucked.

you ain't feel it, fine. i didnt really either.


but the point is is that your criticism was like insults.


it was respectful you know?


so i could see how ?uest would be offended by that shit.



but i do agree with you in taht how the fuck is some random internet dickhead (whaleboy) gonna run a grown man off his own gotdamn website?

thats ludicrous. ban him and get it done with, fuck that free speech if your gonna be a dickmonger about it.


  

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119. "RE: on the cool..."
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Dawg....I didn't mean to signal you out like you are THE REASON. I know there are people on the site that are truly assholes and I'm sure you're not one of them....but the problem is I don't visit the site often enough to know who these people are nor do I pay close enough attention to what people post on the site (other than sportsboard...GO EAGLES). I react mainly to what I hear from ?uest, other members of the Roots, other artists...etc that always have a negative perception of the website.

The reason your particular Phrenology attacks stuck out in my mind was because of your very first review of the CD.....yes you bashed it, but u did so in such a way that my partner thought fmwj was my alter ego. The insights and theories you had were VERY much on point (or should I say some of them)....and we really had a healthy discussion based on your critical review. That is the type of intelligent criticism that we thought we would get.....and you copied your review on a couple of boards (lesson, GD) which was cool, because I liked the healthy discussion that your post provoked..... However you MUST admit that for a period of a couple weeks you went out of your way to express your disdain for the album in every post imaginable....I think someone called it post-chasin (I'm not well versed on Internet lingo, so I hope thats right). The only reason I know this is because after reading your review, I was interested in seeing what other opinions you had on other artists/music...etc. However all i saw was continued bashing of Phrenology. As many have said your opinions on music is probably shared and respected by lots of people on the boards. But I just don't pay enough attention to know the real assholes.

"Ernest Lee is Shorty. In the Little Leagues, he can front like hes something important, but any attempt to move into the big time leaves him exposed, shocked, and utterly outclassed". - (taken from the Blowhard league archives)

  

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160. "how in the blue hell"
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(crazy okp's notwithstanding) can they fix their mouths to say some negative shit about their own fan site? i've already explained myself in the replies up there. and my post int he archives. ok that just did it for me. (quest not included cause he's here. he discusses his music yadda yadda yadda.)

anybody that has some negative shit to say that doesn't even take the time to even "check the oil" here, unless they drop an album and then be out, have fun watching your videos on BET and TRL...no wait. have some respect for the people that buy your albums. I find it hard to believe that the assholes of this site buy your shit anyway.


I react mainly to what I hear from ?uest, other
>members of the Roots, other artists...etc that always have a
>negative perception of the website.




"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

  

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168. "No need to retract Shawn Gee"
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I am with you 100%. The review was respectable to a degree based upon original content but carried over way to far. First off the review was released before the album was released to the general public (I chose not to download the album, rather to buy it and support the artist like in the good old days) and told people not to buy an album. We had gone at it before. I just never could understand why someone would come to a community developed by an artist as a marketing tool. And bash that artist and his work. Not everyone is going to like everything. But to essentially steal an artists work and then come to his home and talk crazy shit about it and why no one should buy it just doesn't sound right to me.




>Dawg....I didn't mean to signal you out like you are THE
>REASON. I know there are people on the site that are truly
>assholes and I'm sure you're not one of them....but the
>problem is I don't visit the site often enough to know who
>these people are nor do I pay close enough attention to what
>people post on the site (other than sportsboard...GO
>EAGLES). I react mainly to what I hear from ?uest, other
>members of the Roots, other artists...etc that always have a
>negative perception of the website.
>
>The reason your particular Phrenology attacks stuck out in
>my mind was because of your very first review of the
>CD.....yes you bashed it, but u did so in such a way that my
>partner thought fmwj was my alter ego. The insights and
>theories you had were VERY much on point (or should I say
>some of them)....and we really had a healthy discussion
>based on your critical review. That is the type of
>intelligent criticism that we thought we would get.....and
>you copied your review on a couple of boards (lesson, GD)
>which was cool, because I liked the healthy discussion that
>your post provoked..... However you MUST admit that for a
>period of a couple weeks you went out of your way to express
>your disdain for the album in every post imaginable....I
>think someone called it post-chasin (I'm not well versed on
>Internet lingo, so I hope thats right). The only reason I
>know this is because after reading your review, I was
>interested in seeing what other opinions you had on other
>artists/music...etc. However all i saw was continued bashing
>of Phrenology. As many have said your opinions on music is
>probably shared and respected by lots of people on the
>boards. But I just don't pay enough attention to know the
>real assholes.

  

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159. "I'm surprised you stuck it out this long"
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This cat brought truth and wit when he participated on the boards...and that shit is in VERY short supply around here. I applaud he's decision to be as opinionated as he was/is. I can't say he or anyone else for that matter made it a point to post ONLY constructive criticism all the time, every time, but for the most part, he intelligently broke down the reasons for his views. Hell, I can even remember a post a while back when ?uest himself said he'd much rather read thru FWMJ posts than suffer thru the "I love the Roots, they can do no wrong!!" type of dick riding that happens on a regular basis around here. I can't imagine that any artist would truly miss a fan(s) that could be scared away by an intelligent opposing view. If they could be that easily swayed or intimidated, then they obviously have no true appreciation for the artist they claim to respect and support. And as far as the artists not being able to take the negative and keep it moving...all that does is make me question continuing my support for them. Alot of musicians would greatly benefit from having a few "no man" type thinkers around. All in all.... I think it was ridiculous for Frank to be called out like he was. He is what I and I'm sure many others would consider they LEAST of what what's wrong with OKP.




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84. "The Dumbest Shit Ever"
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You got posters over in General Discussion that get thier personal intimate business put on blast everyday that still stay on the site. Crying is for babies. Suck that shit up and keep it moving. People are going to criticize, it's human nature. You could remake Thriller, The Wall and Midnight Marauders and you are going to have your detractors, haters and defacers. Get over it and keep it moving.

How you going to let us punk you? It's actually comical.













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85. "*moves on to mariahcarey.com*"
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87. "Here's the knowledge."
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No one really writes directly TOO Talib Kweli, 'cause apparently, he doesn't come on here. Ditto for D'Angelo.
People hound this guy, constantly. "We love you ?uest", "?uest's DJ set in Seattle, part 23", "Hahaha I saw a Picture of ?uest sitting on the toilet". It's like, the man comes on here, and people just throw s--t at him, good, bad, and everything in general....randomly, steady throwing s--t.

Overload. The negativity probably gets to him, but I'm sure the negativity wouldn't get to him as bad if he wasn't already taking a barrage of everything else. I think it's real cool he posts, and fields questions, etc... that's real cool of him, but people take advantage of it, seriously.

This becomes obvious when he can post about how he hates Sprite, and the post will go platinum in 10 minutes.

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94. "This site is way too dope to lose..."
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.... where else can you get the information and fellowship that this site provides?

...where else can you actually get consistent feedback from artists (like Quest) that show some intelligence and are in the industry bubble.

I hope this site (and cats like Quest) don't fold to the youth and sometimes immature comments that show up here.


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97. "i think yall making this shit bigger than what it is. r"
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98. "RE: Is This The End?"
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The dowside and upside to this community is that the people here are too intelligent for their own damn good.

In an ideal world it wouldnt be an issue if people posted bullshit on these boards. however, the point that most of us seem to forget is that we are not computers, but people who often defy convention/logic. even free speech is problematic when one has to consider all of its implications.

this situation not as cut and dry as it may seem.

what has happened here is a damn shame

can we get a 'throwback' okp.com (j/k)

  

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100. "this is bullshit"
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If "he" aint coming here no more....then so what.

If those other artist aint coming here no more....so be it.

If Little Brother aint coming here no more then it's them that got too big for this site..not us. I remember when Little Brother would put up link after link of the shit asking folks to listen and it would drop with two replies. Now when Amhir co-signs it and they blow then they don't come here no more. So what. I give a shit if they don't log on. And if Shawn Gee or anyone else gives a shit about how much they log on ....call them up in "real life" and tell they ass to log on. It's that simple.

I got to meet a real talented dude on here and help him produce his album. He met his future wife here and they doing swell. But that's all I see that came positive from this place. If you want to leave....just freaking leave. Don't respond to the post about how you not here anymore and don't make post saying bye...roll out. Anything else is a cry for attention that you should already be getting anyway.

Yall kill me with this kiddie shit.

.....on the relentless search for my past post count...

  

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101. "okayplayer.com no more?"
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>If "he" aint coming here no more....then so what.

i think is more the question. this site is because of the man. i respect and fear that equally.

  

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104. "I don't fear shit"
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Him and Angieee started this site. Not just him. She interacted way better with us than him in my opinion. I aint see no big fuss when she left. And all he talking about doing is not posting anymore. So what. Hit his AIM or email him direct. I'm sure the people he "wanted" to talk to got his contacts. Dude is a per--son he aint nothing more nothing less. Yall trying to grow complimentary afros on this bullshit and it's nothing to get amped about. You think Halmark will send him a special request card if he stop using they brand to wish his mother happy mother's day?


.....on the relentless search for my past post count...

  

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105. "good to start unnecessary shit"
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glad you're playing your part.

THE END

  

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113. "I am?"
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wow. carry on.

.....on the relentless search for my past post count...

  

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149. "you didn't see a big fuss when ang left?"
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mfs were heartbroken

*sigh*

  

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154. "RE: you didn't see a big fuss when ang left?"
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>mfs were heartbroken
>
>*sigh*

that was the beginning of the end.. the site became 30% less interesting immediately after she left and continued downward from there

oh well

  

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169. "yep"
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when you're right, you're right

  

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183. "RE: yep"
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>when you're right, you're right

Thats back when the frontpage updates was short and funny. Cats used to complain like a muhfucka if she was late on one. Brian held it down for a lil while but... as of now, i dont think i've read an okayplayer update in at least 2 years.

oh well

  

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116. "SCARE TACTICS!"
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you know like when you parents used to say they'd kick you out the car and leave you if you didn't shut up or behaved?

Of course I could be wrong and ?uest could pull the plug.

  

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117. "5 hours a day? that is a bit much / you need a t-mobil"
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besides this is Amerikkka and people feel they have the right to say what they want to.

the boards are elitist to say the least, and those not in the loop make it a point to say shit for shock value.

Just as ?uest has felt offended, so has he offended others. Keep it moving dude, everyone is not gonna like you. You need to take a count of the posts in okayartist and measure the good versus the bad. Im pretty sure the good will win, even if you dont respond to them all personally.

I will always supportthe Roots, and now I'd rather just be in the back of the crowd with a ticket stub than on the back of the stage.

You are entertainment, and we should all treat you as such. The internet got us feeling too close to you, and in all actuality we are all not fam like that.

If you shut down these boards today, just know that you will be putting an end to bonds of friendship you created just because niggas are talkin shit, a real bitch move. come out to a reunion sometimes dude, we are sorry for fuckin' up your crib and someone ganking your snoopy towel back in '00.

You responsible for alot of good dude, dont let ego and pride fuck that all up homie. Cats been hooking up coast to coast for over four years because, like it or not, they love it here.

I know this is a business and all, but you need to look at the bigger picture dude. This shit blew up way bigger than you expected in '99 and you have to accept the fact that it is not just about you anymore.

Or just take your ass to squarebiz.org, they waiting for the you like Medina did the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upun him).

Anyways, thanks for all the good

Im through thinking about the bad

and I take offense to being called Abdul, and bring back the emoticons!!!!!!!

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139. "snoopy towels and the tipping point"
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>I will always supportthe Roots, and now I'd rather just be in the back of the crowd with a ticket stub than on the back of the stage.

maaaan, if that isn't the truest shit i've read in a second. i think if you've either been on tour with cats, friends with cats, sheeit, even talked with cats for a second, you will be content to just pay the damn fee, chill in the back, smile, and enjoy.


>come out to a reunion sometimes dude, we are sorry for fuckin' up your crib and someone ganking your snoopy towel back in '00.

LOL. thats fucked up. didn't hear that story.

i still need some ummah shirts, more than ever now, homie. i got a market waiting. hit me up on the inbox.

  

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120. "Yet some STILL choose to be assholes in this post"
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123. "Let go of the dick now"
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It's flaccid









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125. "your the one with it in your mouth"
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ASSHOLE

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126. "now there YOU go asswipe."
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127. "she'll windmill kick your hiney."
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you're really good at responding so completely off base to people.

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140. "that ain't necessary"
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152. "All Four of You Posters"
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Let go of mine now.










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165. "*uncurling pinkie*"
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177. "You got some Huge Hands"
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121. "My Thoughts"
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I've been following this thread (and the others), but it took a while to digest. Here's what I came up with:

First, we really need to consolidate all this shit. Way too many of these posts.

But onto the larger issue, I may as well echo the general sentiment that ?uestlove has pioneered artist/fan internet relations and that his leaving saddens me. Others have already expressed my feelings articulately, so I'll leave it at that.

But in the man's own words, "i havn't abandoned the place....". Sounds like okp's still gonna be here. Maybe ? will even come back after a while. Hope so. If not, I'll still have these past few months (in which he did actually reply to me once), and the preceding year or so when I was lurking, of getting a look into the mind of a performer I enjoy and respect. Add to that the fact that I'll continue to have a connection to people that have opened my mind to many different kinds of music, and I'm just grateful.

So thanks and good luck, ?uesto. See you the next time y'all come thru.

OH THE IRONY

CANCEL YOUR TOUR

i suggest all "fans" save their money

you can view your shit while looking in the mirror jacking off
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122. "everyone knows the artist board okp's are crazy"
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come to GD. we may insult you occasionally, but it's ok to shank someone occasionally.

  

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124. "THAT'S WHAT DA FUCK IM TALKIN' ABOUT!!!!"
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131. "they stab mercilessly in gd."
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don't go there without security

  

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129. "sup ?uest... saw u in nyc @ Flow"
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and yeah i see u in the 215 too

whats poppin kid

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130. "some of y'all ask for too much"
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seriously, imo ?uestlove didn't have to participate on the boards.... it was just a real bonus for us, and i knew that from the day i registered, i didn't kno ?uest posts here, so i was like "oh cool ?uest is posting?", i mean it's cool that he was interacting with the fans, but he didn't have to

so to some of y'all mofos sayin all that shit "awwww pleeeease don't leave!!!", stop that shit, u kno celebrities have their own lives too? i mean, sure, i'm gonna miss ?uest not posting, but then again he didn't have to in the first place, but some of u ask for too much, pisses me off when u start pointing fingers

to those sayin "fuck u" to the ppl making negative posts and stuff.....shut the fuck up, why is it so wrong to be honest? sure it's annoyin and probably unnecessary, but it wouldn't a forum without it

so in conclusion, if ?uest wants to go, it's his freedom, but it's nobody's fault that he's leaving, so shut up and stop blaming ppl

and yeh to most okayartist ppl....stop with the dickriding shit...y'all r the reason i stopped going there a couple of months ago

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142. "and you're helping the situation huh?"
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148. "who said i was here to help"
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i'm just sayin

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SAVE THE BOARDS! SAVE THE WHALES! SAVE THE POSTS! SAVE THE POSTERS!


Get The Fuck Out of Here With that Bullshit.

Sons of bitches been posting for 4 years and still dickriding.

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you were just so passionate
sounded like a mission for second there

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132. "well..."
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for me personally, i couldn't give a shit
quest was always just....i don't, worthless in discussion unless you had an 'ok' next to ur name
i mean as corny as it sounds, we're all people here and he is nothing less or more
just because he can play the freaking drums and produce records doesn't make him some bloody elite personality. who cares?
i appreciate what he has done for the site and so forth but it's not going to stop people posting about things and getting shitty responses once in a while from idiots
it comes hand in hand with message boards
what the hell does quest think this is gonna be?
its virtually impossible to have a message board feature on an internet site and not have dim witted people join up and talk shit just for the fuck of it
it's naive to think otherwise and quest, that's exactly what you are
just because everyone didn't bow down to your shit all the time and respect you all the time doesn't mean shit. same thing happens to every one else on these boards
you can't expect exclusion from everything negative just because of your apparent 'status' as a musician. pffft
think about it for a second. this is ridiculous. i have no doubt he could be doing better things with his time, as could every single person here, but this is how they all choose to spend some of their free time. i could be doing alot of different things other than typing replies and posts to b/s like this, but it's a late night thing when i just want to relax and have a read of what other people think
i don't come on this site to see elitist fucks like you prancing round crying about petty crap. if this site effects you so much, then get out of the business cos this is just a representation of what some people think of what you do. don't go and quit because people don't get you or the roots, or people don't like the direction you are taking. as you say, people are entitled to their opinion, and just as you are yours, so are they theirs.

i don't usually post like this
actually, i never post like this but you get what you give and shit like this just pisses me off

peace


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155. "The biggest co-sign ever"
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156. "wow."
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tell us how you REALLY feel.

fuck you.

  

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158. "you need to R.E.S.P.E.C.T. QlovE"
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>for me personally, i couldn't give a shit
>quest was always just....i don't, worthless in discussion
>unless you had an 'ok' next to ur name
>i mean as corny as it sounds, we're all people here and he
>is nothing less or more

We are all "just people", and I'll go so far as to agree that he's not an "elite" (as no one should be viewed as an "elite" these days). But you realize journalists pay to get Quest's 2? We get it for free, and he has supposedly (I haven't been here more than a month) done it with y'all on a level of almost "friendship" (or at least complete equals).

>i appreciate what he has done for the site and so forth but
>it's not going to stop people posting about things and
>getting shitty responses once in a while from idiots
>it comes hand in hand with message boards

True, true. We all have the freedom of speech everywhere, especially on message boards. But is it the man's fault when someone comes into his home (the site he made) and plays neo-fascist hour before they return to their surely much less flamboyant real-life personalities?

>what the hell does quest think this is gonna be?
>its virtually impossible to have a message board feature on
>an internet site and not have dim witted people join up and
>talk shit just for the fuck of it

Again, true. But also again, it's not Quest's fault for getting offended -- and taking offense to relentless bashing (bashing, not constructive criticism).

>it's naive to think otherwise and quest, that's exactly what
>you are

You should have stopped at the comma. You're playing devil's advocate by calling him names *hands you a pink slip, sends you to the principal's office*

>just because everyone didn't bow down to your shit all the
>time and respect you all the time doesn't mean shit. same
>thing happens to every one else on these boards

He doesn't want people to suck -- but he doesn't want people to throw ish at it either; especially if they're going to be immature or unreasonable about it. And i think you're wrong: Respect should be used ALL the time, no matter what.

>you can't expect exclusion from everything negative just
>because of your apparent 'status' as a musician. pffft
>think about it for a second. this is ridiculous. i have no
>doubt he could be doing better things with his time, as
>could every single person here, but this is how they all
>choose to spend some of their free time. i could be doing
>alot of different things other than typing replies and posts
>to b/s like this, but it's a late night thing when i just
>want to relax and have a read of what other people think
>i don't come on this site to see elitist fucks like you
>prancing round crying about petty crap.

*frantically puts hand over your mouth, runs with you to the principals office*
You're really spazzing out here. just chill. Again, this is Quest's house -- you have priviledges when it comes to posting here, not constitutional rights (say whatever you want, but "OKP has the right to refuse service to anbody")

>if this site effects
>you so much, then get out of the business cos this is just a
>representation of what some people think of what you do.

I think you're reaching out on a limb, telling him to leave the business, as you are a fan: not a business partner. This site is a representation of what some people think of what "The band" does, not just Quest. But you don't see anyone else here do you? Queset has enough respect to be here in the first place and hear everyone out; the least we can do is act civilized towards each other.

>don't go and quit because people don't get you or the roots,
>or people don't like the direction you are taking. as you
>say, people are entitled to their opinion, and just as you
>are yours, so are they theirs.

I'll agree with the last part; i've seen Quest say this more than once

>i don't usually post like this
>actually, i never post like this but you get what you give
>and shit like this just pisses me off

It seems like some of what you said was just "venting off steam". But this is one of the problems, I think. You don't word conversations with "constructive criticism" like you did in this post. Real-life convo's involve respect. I doubt you would throw F bombs, name-call and make outlandish demands like "leave the business" if you were talking to Quest in real life; or anyone for that matter.

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181. "RE: you need to R.E.S.P.E.C.T. QlovE"
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i understand your points completely and i do agree with you
just annoys me how this has been made such a big deal of, when really it's over something we all experience from time to time on these boards, some more than others

and i know some of what i said wasn't exactly constructive criticism. i was slightly annoyed. lol


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175. "DOUBLE CO-SIGN!"
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>for me personally, i couldn't give a shit
>quest was always just....i don't, worthless in discussion
>unless you had an 'ok' next to ur name
>i mean as corny as it sounds, we're all people here and he
>is nothing less or more
>just because he can play the freaking drums and produce
>records doesn't make him some bloody elite personality. who
>cares?
>i appreciate what he has done for the site and so forth but
>it's not going to stop people posting about things and
>getting shitty responses once in a while from idiots
>it comes hand in hand with message boards
>what the hell does quest think this is gonna be?
>its virtually impossible to have a message board feature on
>an internet site and not have dim witted people join up and
>talk shit just for the fuck of it
>it's naive to think otherwise and quest, that's exactly what
>you are
>just because everyone didn't bow down to your shit all the
>time and respect you all the time doesn't mean shit. same
>thing happens to every one else on these boards
>you can't expect exclusion from everything negative just
>because of your apparent 'status' as a musician. pffft
>think about it for a second. this is ridiculous. i have no
>doubt he could be doing better things with his time, as
>could every single person here, but this is how they all
>choose to spend some of their free time. i could be doing
>alot of different things other than typing replies and posts
>to b/s like this, but it's a late night thing when i just
>want to relax and have a read of what other people think
>i don't come on this site to see elitist fucks like you
>prancing round crying about petty crap. if this site effects
>you so much, then get out of the business cos this is just a
>representation of what some people think of what you do.
>don't go and quit because people don't get you or the roots,
>or people don't like the direction you are taking. as you
>say, people are entitled to their opinion, and just as you
>are yours, so are they theirs.
>
>i don't usually post like this
>actually, i never post like this but you get what you give
>and shit like this just pisses me off
>
>peace

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133. "RE: Is This The End?"
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When I used to try and explain my addiction to this website and these boards I would brag to people, "No you don't understand the drummer/founder/spokesman/genius of The Roots is always on the boards and posting. He is so bad ass to have real contact wiht his fans on a daily basis." Now sum of y'all done fucked shit up and ran him off and i'm pretty sad. ?uest, as non-experienced of a poster I am, I've been reading for a while and I'm really gonna miss you. Keep keepin on.

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ride on playa!!!





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135. "RE: Is This The End?"
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Well like somebody said earlier I ain't been here long...BUt I thought it was dope how somebody from the band would come and chill with the fans like this...I didn't even KNOW that Quest and 'nem be on here posting when I sign up..I just liked the boards regardless, becasue I'm a Roots fan and most of the kats on here is knowlegeable about music..when I found out Okay artist post and reply it was like a added bonus. At the same time I think people is right to have they opinons, and should be realistic that everybody is not 'gon like you....Some of it is constuctive, some is hatin'..but you 'gon get that anywhere..BUt I don;t think Quest should just bounce completely . It'll be like shittin on your fans..Cuz regardless on what niggas be sayin on here, when it comes down to droping that next Roots c.d most of us gon get it regardless. MTV don't souport ya'll like this place, BET either, Hot 97, Source, XXL..all the major urban outlets don't give ya'll the souport like ya'll niggas get from here...So if you be like "fuck this place"....Do you really think the 106 & Park crowd gon take up the slack?!....Not dissin' them but on the real The Roots style of music don't fit the sterotypical demograhic of that crowd...But The Roots make music for poeple thats like them...poeple that appreciate the art of music and the integrity of it..And you know you got that with (most) of the oker's..so yhea......


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productivity at the job is going up 20%-40% ...seriously, people have to stop being such groupies ..treat people with respect if possible ..but stop sweating so hard

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143. "c'mon now"
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we all know that the MOST wasted time goes to the GD board - this forum is barely a thought to the people who post every day.

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pull the plug.

for like a week.

maybe it would make people realize how good a site like this is.
maybe it wont.

  

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plays in the background while we post.

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174. "Co-Siggy!!!...."
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Lemme See You Shake It Low...



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150. "Common Denominator of the haters"
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Most of them bought the album. They took the time to listen to your work and form an opinion so they can't hate you that much. I do understand why quest is thinking about leaving. Most of the stable (yeah right) people are posting in GD and the Lesson because they can't dealw ith the crazy ass folks in artist. Anyway, do what you do quest. I hope you ain't leaving cuz folks won't kiss your ass. Even then, as long as y'all keep making good music, I'll buy it. If you make bad music, I'll prolly still buy it and rip it to shreds like I do with everybody else. Peace.

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151. "Quest VS. Frankenstein..."
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OkayArmegeddon?

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157. "easier solution"
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- why not just ban certian people from coming/logging into the chat boards!
not just their 'nickname/handle'...b/c they can just make a new one and it will take forever to get rid of them....so block their IP addresses!!!!!

  

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171. "RE: easier solution"
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IP's change all the time. my DSL service changes my IP on me every time I dial in. another example: a college kid has potentially hundreds of college computer terminals at his disposal to log on and talk a buncha shit on these boards.

quest should just hire some suge knight type dude to put the fear into the people that annoy him.

  

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166. "shiiiit"
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jus' do a jay and silent bob and start showin' up to niggaz cribs to beat that ass. what's funny about that whole scene was the people that were attacking them via the internet were nerdy-assed kids. muhfuckas will say anything on a computer but would never say that shit to your face. it's funny but u gotta shake them haters off ya back

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167. "damn....thats a good ass idea....."
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Peace

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Peace

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172. "He still deserves the standing ovy!!!..."
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Lemme See You Shake It Low...



"hell to the yes"...LOL!!!

He deserves all of his credits due!!!

I don't know how ?uestlove lasted this long...I could not have done it. No one else has endured the pressure.

I'm gonna miss seeing his posts and sigs here, but I can, definetly understand...

Well, let's just see what happens now...


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179. "RLMAO on some ol New Edition shit"
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"Is this the ennnnnd are you myyyyy friendddddddddd?" Is this drama or what???

  

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180. "Walk good ?uest"
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I give thanx for creating this site..I've met some wonderful people and done some beautiful things because of Okplayer.com....

All the best in your future endeavors.....I'll be listening

  

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184. "loyalty"
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okayplayer was the first (and still is the only one) place on the internet i posted in forums.

why?

it's a unique place.

can you name any other site with the possibility to
- interact with people such as ?uest ?
- find that many people with such a huge knowledge of (black) music history (shout out to the lessonheads)?

not me.

that's why I'm so thankful for this site.
thats why there will always be my full respect and loyalty to the founders of this site.

if someone lends you something (whatever it might be), and it comes to the point you have to return it. how do you return it? the way you want it or the way he/she/they wants it? Are you thankful to have received or angry to give it back again?

They gave us okayplayer. So show respect. show loyalty.
Don't take it for granted to have okayplayer. Be thankful.


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the drum is every moment in time
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every feeling brought
every pain endured
through the long, cold night of life.

  

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Mosaic
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185. "last words: the bootleg."
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(i was prompted to write this by another post around here ...)

P"UNCH THE MONKEY!"
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the reality of it all, Doley, is that OKP and the people that made OKP, from top to bottom, are all in different places now than they were back in the day, which happens.
i initially thought of posting the following observations when Shawn Gee's "is this the end?" post (aka "you dimlights have driven ?uesto off"), but i think they work for this post, too.

the internet, besides all its other uses, has become a place where people invest a lot of time & energy into the escapism factor or the connecting-with-people-outside-their-immediate-area factor (or both). (on top of all that, we're all nerds of some type ... and Starks got ejected)

personally, and i don't know that too many would be eager to lay it out about themselves in the same way, i would say i spent a staggering amount of time here on OKP between '99-2001. it wasn't because i didn't have friends or a life or any of that, but i guess i dug reading what the people here had to say and contributing my own little schtick. i'm gonna go out on the limb here and say that that's why the people who were here during the time got out of it as well.

at the same time, the community definitely grew number-wise, regardless of reason (but including the D'Angelomania and shimmering write ups on OKP being a unique online community), and another element of the game was brought in to help support the people who were picking up the check each month - advertising and using OKP as a marketing tool. i think that the folks behind the curtain have juggled to maintain a decent balance of keeping the community aspect of things going while having the marketing element something that's there, but not overshadowing the community (i could be wrong, too).

so, OKP itself is in a different place because of that and because of the following:

a decent chunk of the people that congregated here had talents and ambitions that required them to re-focus their use of time (imo). while they were here (and some are still here), there were things that got accomplished under the banner of OKP (official or unofficial), such as the RE:, various fundraisers, the screenwriters group, the book clubs, etc. i think as people pushed their own projects/careers/goals forward (or just devoted more time to their life offline) it just left a slight void as far as people who made this place interesting or at least made it familiar. (that perceived void was filled by others who got their shine on with whatever their thing was and, i think, posting became a lot more disposable.)

personally, i started coming here less and less as i started to focus tighter on what i wanted to do with my life. in a weird way, and i'm sure this'll come out corny, my experiences with the people here i think helped me and encouraged me as far as what i wanted to pursue.

i don't know if that's the case with everyone else, but you have a lot of OKP alumni (for lack of a better word) that are asserting their voices or pursuing their goals in a variety of ways from NAZDAK's Blue Chip thing, the Loosie crew, the Rare Form folks, Dove's Tygereye Entertainment, and a billion other online/offline endeavors. so, i think the people that used to be here are basically making their way in the world today (even if it takes everything they got) and those who do still kick it here (even if sporadically) see it as a place to take a break at place where everyone knows their name.

so, OKP *and* the vets are kind of in different places.

as far as ?ueazy and his quasi-sabbatical or whatever ... from what i remember, he's always been big on connecting with people. i remember something in Rap Pages about him being on tour and racking up crazy long distance charges just keeping in touch with folks (before the days of free ld with the cellie and shit). i imagine that it was pretty natural to take that urge to connect with people to the internet once it became feasible for the average joe to have access.

i know that some people are all sad (or angry at the knuckleheads) about his supposed departure, but i think the Proceed drummer is probably just in a different place, too. it's not as if i know the guy like that or anything, but i think the clue lies in the "is this the end?" post. he mentions that he has other stuff that he can put his time toward, including "socially."

?uest is just really in demand right now and in the thick of things, is the impression i get. prior to, let's say Dupri's insistence that he drum on the "What's Going On?" remake in Sept/Oct 2001 (not necessarily the turning point, but just a general marker), ?uest obviously got props in his own circle and with those in the know. it was just a matter of time before other people in the industry (and the media - just check out how publications & other outlets use him as a resource and quote machine) caught wind of the guy. he's been putting in work forever on a billion projects, some of which ended up being high profile, and now i think he's kind of reaping part of what's been sowed and the things that go along with that (i.e. higher profile business/social attention, broader respect, etc.).

when you compare all that with the alternative of spending time around here where people are seeking attention by trying to be naysaying badasses (as opposed to solid constructive criticism), i guess it'd be an easy choice for most.

anyway, i look at this whole situation (a ?uestless OKP, vets & newbies, cats & dogs living together - MASS HYSTERIA!) as less of a case of Snoopy Come Home than a case of Snoopy, Home is Where You Decide to Build It. or something.

(having written all of this, i'm inclined to delete it because it's mostly baseless speculation, meandering thoughts, and meaningless squiggles ... but, here we are now, entertain us.)


  

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dro
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186. "very well said."
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Mon Sep-22-03 02:38 PM

  

          

all of it. and i think you are right on the money, about the vets and quest and all. their time is being devoted elsewhere as they are beginning to take some seriously big steps in what they want to do w/ their life. and for ?uest, like you i don't know the man personally, but it's safe to say that he is at a high point in his career, where he is always busy working w/ a different artist, and finally getting the respect 10+ years in the game deserves. So, why then, if he is so fond of "connecting" with people, would ?uest during his free time come to a place where the only people to "connect" with are a bunch of naysaying assholes? i know i wouldn't want to. which is probably why a lot of the other vets aren't here anymore. when they do have time to come to the site, there is very little to reply to and talk about, so they say, "fuck it. its not worth it anyways." personally, i've been here since, oh, fall of 2000, and look at my post count. probably sub 5000 w/ this name and DROots combined. because, basically, there just isn't much to reply to anymore, or any good discussion to be had.
its hard to put your finger on why the quality of the posting has degraded itself, but i think you're right. a lot of the groupies have decended here, and it makes it kind of hard to find the posts that are balanced: not hatin, but not on the dick.

don't know how to finish this, so i will say this: OKP at its best is a great community of people around the world, who all probably came because they liked one or more of the artists marketed, and stayed because they liked the atmosphere of the boards, and felt they had somthing positive to contribute. At its worst, its a bunch of disgruntled "true hip hop heads" who are angry that the artists marketed here are not producing EXACTLY what they want them to, and feel the need to cry about it or criticize its maker w/out backing it up.

its a tough world, this OKP

peace
mike

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187. "dude-"
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you were completely on point

i'm glad you didn't delete it

THREE CHEERS FOR MIGHTY MOS!

or something

  

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Mosaic
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188. "it was Dolemite's post in General"
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"what was OKP like in the old days?" (i think that's it)
http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/general2/239883.html

that got me to spill what was sparked when i read "is this the end?"

i don't think that Dolemite's post and this one are entirely unrelated.

  

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189. "again, sir, you are correct"
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here is your kewpie doll

did you post this in thta post also?

'cause i was tempted to cut and paste it there myself

anyway

you should


  

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191. "True"
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Now I acknowledge that I don't know a damn thing about 'the good old days on okp', but that was exactly the feeling I got from ?uest's post. The way people talk about this shit, wish I'da been here.

OH THE IRONY

CANCEL YOUR TOUR

i suggest all "fans" save their money

you can view your shit while looking in the mirror jacking off
and telling yourself how great you are

  

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190. "I have no comments on ?uest's decision..."
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...but I WILL say this:

Mama shoulda told me it was gonna happen.
But she never told me when.
She told me it would happen when I was much older.
Wish it woulda happened then.

Thanks.

______________________
-DeeeEsss
OKP's Gentleman Loser since summer 1999


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THE LAST DAYS OF RUSSELL:
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192. "RE: Is This The End?"
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>* in high pitch offkey voice

are you my friend? It seems to me you want to be free.You used to be mine when the chips were down, You used to be mine when I wasn't around round. *


....of ?uest's participation on these boards (at least
>okartist board)?
>
HE should take a hiatus, maybe that would make some of the assholes go away. I believe most of them post to get his attention anyway. He should post yearly like most of the artists.

>
>Has the negativity (and I'm not talking about constructive
>criticism, I mean the assholes) kept away too many of his
>friends that would like to participate (Com, Kweli, Macy,
>LB, Badu)?

YES , I would never post here if I was an okayartist. I bought a few albums I didn't appreciate, yet I would never post about the music unless I offered constructive criticism. I not in the industry, so most of my remarks would be viewed as negative input. So I guess I just don't post about shit I don't like, I just give the cd away.
>
>

Shit happens

  

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193. "RE: Is This The End?"
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alright fuck this.

i've been ghosting on these boards for damn near 5 years. and i've been lazy as fuck and i never felt like posting.

til now.

?uest, don't shut this shit down man. sure there are haters (as there always will be), but you have a helluva lot of people coming here who really care about the artists as well. it's just "take the good w/ the bad" kind of deal yanno?

peace.

"Girl I dig you like a mole, I wanna hump you like a camel." -Mountain Brothers

  

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