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NazDak
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"My Suggestion"


          

For the past few weeks on these boards, I've seen nothing but bitching and complaining from people who post on this site. Ever time I log on, I seem to come across a post where someone is mad because they cant get some free shit, or mad because of age requirements. <BR> Just a few minutes ago, I peeped a thread by some kid who actually feels that he has the right to be mad at the Roots because a show he wanted to go to was:<BR> A) 21 and Over<BR> and<BR> B) A whopping 5 DOLLARS!!<BR> <BR> Someone in that same thread had the nerve to say that Ahmir HAS to do a show on thanksgiving, despite the fact that he could easily be with his family instead. Fucking amazing.<BR> Well, to all of you ungrateful, ignorant little bastards who believe you deserve that privilege, as well as members of the Roots, I have a suggestion....<BR> How about if Roots members no longer post?<BR> Simple as that.<BR> Obviously, These fucks don't seem to appreciate the fact that they can actually engage in ANY type of communication with some of their favorite artists. Unlike the VAST majority of OTHER artists in the Hiphop Genre of music (or any genre of music for that matter), the artists which make up the okayplayer roster seem to genuinely have a sense of closeness with their fans. However, seeing how things are beginning to turn out...I think I'm starting to see why so many other artists choose to keep their business/personal lives behind the scenes. Because of ingrates like you....who THINK you have the right to pass judgment on ANYTHING these people do. They are artists. Entertainers. Their job is to entertain you...not to specifically suit your every need.<BR> If you cant get into a Roots show because you're not old enough..too damn bad. Everyone had to grow up, so do you. Stop bitching because you feel left out.<BR> If you think ?uestlove owes YOU an explanation as to why HE charges So much for concert tickets...well, think again. HE doesn't Charge anything, # 1. # 2...Ticket prices for Roots concerts are NEVER overpriced. # 3...You have 2 WONDERFUL options regarding your attendance at shows...you can either GO, or NOT GO. Pick one, stop crying.<BR> Just the fact that some of you think you have the right to question the personal lives of these artists makes me sick. You people are EXACTLY what everyone knew was the inevitable....a bunch stuck up, angry little kids who want special treatment, free stuff, etc. Ungrateful bastards, just like I said before. YOU are ruining this site because you try to use it as a means of personal communication with Band members, instead of communication with other Roots fans. I despise all of you...and if *I* do, I'm sure the band members do as well. They have every right to.<BR> SO, to the Roots, Jazzy's, Common, D'angelo, and any artists who may join the okayplayer roster in the future....Be wary of when and what you post around these people. They aren't posting for the love of posting and making their voices heard to the collective "Family" we developed over the past few months...They are posting just to find a way to make YOU hear them....See them....and I completely understand if you hate them. Lord knows I already do.<BR> Peace,<BR> Naz<P> "I'm so ahead of my time, my parents havent met yet"--Big L (RIP)<BR> <BR> "PTHBT"--Maria<BR> <BR> <P>

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Topic Outline
Subject Author Message Date ID
word up....
Nov 13th 1999
1
to the vets
Nov 15th 1999
41
      what the???!!!....
Crossfaded
Nov 15th 1999
47
           then there is nothing to worry about.
Nov 16th 1999
51
lemme talk lemme saysomethin
Nov 13th 1999
2
i wuz drunk like shit..
Nov 14th 1999
8
Yuuup...
Django
Nov 14th 1999
26
Must've been a LI Ice Tea
Nov 16th 1999
54
True
Nov 13th 1999
3
Nuff said
Nov 13th 1999
4
I agree Naz...
Nov 13th 1999
5
Give 'em an inch they take a mile....
live215
Nov 14th 1999
17
      some comments
Crossfaded
Nov 15th 1999
39
that's what the hell I'm talking about...
Nov 13th 1999
6
WOW!!!
Nov 14th 1999
7
INGRATES! UNITE!!!
Nov 14th 1999
9
*sigh* anybody got any beer?
Nov 14th 1999
13
I disagree...
Crossfaded
Nov 15th 1999
40
this....
Nov 14th 1999
10
i feel this..
Nov 14th 1999
11
maybe.....
BuddhaWake
Nov 14th 1999
12
well...
Nov 14th 1999
14
Correction
Crossfaded
Nov 15th 1999
42
i agree, but
angieee
Nov 14th 1999
15
What Ang said
Nov 14th 1999
18
you're right....
Nov 14th 1999
22
AGREED...........BUT
Nov 14th 1999
23
I agree
Nov 14th 1999
25
a reply
Crossfaded
Nov 15th 1999
43
damn ang is a cyber freak.....
Nov 14th 1999
24
so much respect
Nov 15th 1999
31
Nazzie's right
Nov 14th 1999
16
Big up naz
Nov 14th 1999
19
tell em like it is naz
Nov 14th 1999
20
Word up
Nov 14th 1999
21
word....keep it up.
Nov 14th 1999
27
The epicenter of the problem
homebro
Nov 14th 1999
28
pissed off at seattle kids???
Krutch
Nov 14th 1999
29
That's mature
MarcOne
Nov 15th 1999
36
Man, that's just uncalled for...
Crossfaded
Nov 15th 1999
44
      Defensive
Krutch
Nov 15th 1999
45
      I wanna cuss you out but...
Crossfaded
Nov 15th 1999
48
      Forget it...
Nov 15th 1999
49
           well
Nov 16th 1999
50
silly
Nov 14th 1999
30
good shit naz...
Nov 15th 1999
32
hmmmm . . .
Nov 15th 1999
33
Jihad Speaks.............
Jihad
Nov 15th 1999
34
And you are???????
listenin
Nov 15th 1999
35
NAZDAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Crossfaded
Nov 15th 1999
37
Before I get to school, let me respond ....
Nov 16th 1999
52
      Thanks...
Crossfaded
Nov 16th 1999
53
I Want More
Nov 15th 1999
38
When will they learn?!?!?
Nov 15th 1999
46

ILLWILL
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1. "word up...."
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good post Naz, I agree 100% with what you said. Some people are ungrateful and full of shit. Lord knows I've had to deal with a few recently.<P>"never disrespect women cause I love my momma" Talib Kweli<P>DO YASELF A DAMN FAVOR AND BUY THE JAZZYFATNASTEES ALBUM 'THE ONCE AND FUTURE' IN STORES NOW!!!!!!

i'm back...?

  

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qoolquest
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41. "to the vets"
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at first i was cool. but something kept eating me inside. like why do i really have to show restraint. i swear i do this for ang and ang only. and believe me it's been hard. i mean it, it's so hard not to wanna sucker punch these mofo's in seattle. (just prayin someone says "im blah blah blah who posted that funny post the said eff the roo--ouch (bleeding nose)) but that's not the point. the point is cool, if you want to critisize go head on. i read em all. but just do it respectfully. ok. i gotta run.<P><P><P><BR>"....start your own company??!? your parents don't have enough money to buy you a company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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Crossfaded

Mon Nov-15-99 08:00 PM

  
47. "what the???!!!...."
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Quest,<P>I hope you don't wanna sucker punch me. I'm one of those "mofos in Seattle" (who already has tickets to the show) who has been nothing but respectful while going through this ordeal or whatever you wanna call it. Hell, I even sign my posts "Respectfully". I have only had to reply to these threads because of others disrespect/ignorance. Anyways, I'd really appreciate it if you could hit me back with a reply that I sent to askquest99@aol.com. Peace.<P>Respectfully,<P>Crossfaded<P><P>"I get down like people in tornado drills" -- Binary Star

  

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qoolquest
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51. "then there is nothing to worry about."
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of course i read the list.......<BR>i checked it twice......<BR>i know who's naughty.......and nice.<P><P><P>"....start your own company??!? your parents don't have enough money to buy you a company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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donwill
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Sat Nov-13-99 10:16 PM

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2. "lemme talk lemme saysomethin"
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man nazzie..im drunk..so fuckit..<BR>man fuk taht shit..<BR>those mufucas is tryin to ruin our shit..<BR>man fuck that..they need to be on some shit..<BR>ok..i m drunk so i didnt read the post fully but i know waht u sayin..man the board aint to dick ride or get a damn attn deficit fullfilled it s ot get a idiea off ya chest..stop tryin to make it a damn "read this ROOT GUY" place..<BR>dshit..nobody root responds to my shit.but i post anywahy fuk it..<BR>i feel u...damn..i am drunk..i just have this to say..<BR>if u wanna complain..go elsewhere and let us share love betewween ech other..fuck all that <BR>im mad at thsi. shit..man the boards are gettin crazy..i feel like this..all yall need to calm down..word..stjohnwort or somehtin chill<BR>but see me on this..we are family..u are family..dont be the cousin we talk abouot cus u keep funkin up..<P>ok..out<P>cunning linguist since 7:25 7/25/99<BR>swass/knownots/SPAS cardholder<P>-catch me in the y2k wit a new gat goin nuts like baby ruth<BR>DONWILL<P>-if to entertain meant whut entertainment is FUCK SHOW BIZ!!!<BR>DONWILL<P>-peace to all my peeps on the internet..<BR>DR. STEVELOVE....BANANAMAN (damixtape)

me and my army

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donwill
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8. "i wuz drunk like shit.."
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but i meant what i said..and honestly that is why i steer away from this page..too much dikridin...if i posted what i wanted there..cats would hate me..now sometimes they be tryin to provoke intellegent thought..but alot of shit be just lets get somebody to respond other that jonposterdoe in diksnot arizona..feel me..<P>damn i was drunk...<P>cunning linguist since 7:25 7/25/99<BR>swass/knownots/SPAS cardholder<P>-catch me in the y2k wit a new gat goin nuts like baby ruth<BR>DONWILL<P>-if to entertain meant whut entertainment is FUCK SHOW BIZ!!!<BR>DONWILL<P>-peace to all my peeps on the internet..<BR>DR. STEVELOVE....BANANAMAN (damixtape)

me and my army

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Django

Sun Nov-14-99 04:44 PM

  
26. "Yuuup..."
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.stjohnwort or somehtin <BR>>chill <P>LOL donwill, you had me rollin' with that one... <BR>I agree with you and Naz...I haven't been up on the boards as much, mainly cuz I see the same ish goin' on...and on...and on...<BR>But as long as us positive okayheads that get it keep on postin', hopefully these ignant ones will get it as well...<P>~peace~<BR>Amber

  

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NextLev
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54. "Must've been a LI Ice Tea"
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rofl, donwill...I feel you in all your daziness...but that post had me buggin the fuck out son. <P>"move the crowd and leave the microphone sparkin?/Leave you caught inside the lines of my page, beneath the margin" - Black Thought from Act Fore, TFA<P>"Be perfect within my presence or seize to exist" - Next Lev<BR>

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PRWonder
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Sat Nov-13-99 10:18 PM

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3. "True"
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I agree, You can't get mad at ?uest cause the tickets are too expensive or because you can't go to a certain show for whatever reason. I'll agree that I'd be mad if i couldn't go to a Roots show because it was 21 , but yo, get mad at the effin venue. And about getting into a show for free, if you're so mad that ?uest won't pay your way into a show, then you shouldn't even be an okayplayer. See, true fans don't mind paying for something like a Roots show ticket. I've never heard of people saying, yo Michael Jordan is a punk, he can't even pay my way into a playoff game! Why should ?uest be subject to this kind of ingnorance? And as for The Roots performing on Thanksgiving...THAT'S THE MOST RIDICULOUS THING I'VE EVER HEARD! I don't know about you, but I'd be mad as hell if there was an announcement on the news that said...All high school students must to go school on Thanksgiving.<P>Another thing...Why does everyone seem to call ?uest out for every little thing they wanna bitch about? I mean, If you ever noticed, the posts titled "Question for Quest", or anything along those lines NEVER get replies.<P>"Life's a gamble, step up and place your bets" Dice Raw

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AminaLovely
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Sat Nov-13-99 10:19 PM

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4. "Nuff said"
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Naz i think you were right on point with that one. Some post i see and hope okay staff dont get a whiff of just because its of a weak nature, but i know they do. I sincerely hope it doesnt put them in a foul mood, even though i know it might, because there are always gonna be some assholes that want to be selfish and ruin a good thing. <P> Just because you buy someones records doesnt mean you own them and can dictate what they do, remember that.<P> And i dont know if some of these people feel okayplayer like i do, but i want to keep it in the state it was in the begining if at all possible. Lets just respect each other, okayplayer?<P>And STOP BEING ASSES!<BR><img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"><P>" I had AQUEEN named AMINA, height 5'7'', caramel complected, body like heaven..."<P>"Amina, Yar Bakwa ta san rana," translated:<BR>"Amina, daughter of Nikatau, a woman as capable as a man."<P>Amina k.c.m.k.c<BR>Aqueen--> AOL/AIM

  

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LaDieMeCCa
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Sat Nov-13-99 10:20 PM

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5. "I agree Naz..."
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Big reason why I stopped posting as much... People are given the opportunity to ask questions and get up to date info on one of their favorite bands, and they rape that advantage to the fullest. Nobody owes anything to anyone, and there are several middle men in this industry who are to blame for many of the problems y'all complain about so blame them, not the Roots... Ok I am getting off my soap box now.<P><P><P><BR>*LaDie MeCCa*<P>

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live215

Sun Nov-14-99 09:10 AM

  
17. "Give 'em an inch they take a mile...."
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And when they got the mile (who else gives thier fans this much attention)they want even more. Everything the other people who posted on this is right. One thing I noticed though is it seems like the people bitchin' are the "newer people" not the people who have been down with this site postin' every day since the boards were up and checkin it ten times a day when they first heard there was gonna be a website. I may have bitched before but it was in a joking fashion like in the you know your an okayplayer when...and i talked about not getting picked up for the movie shoot. I dont hold anyone responsible I dont have any grudges,i mean my own mom has forgotten to pick me up from places before,it happens get over it, its something I laugh about cuz if you cant laugh at yourself when stupid lil'ish like that happens then you're gonna have a very sad angry life. Some people who post on the site or go to the chat rooms have gotten the oppurtunity to meet certain artists because of this site and met some without anyting to do to the website. Its just a matter of being in the right place at the right time. If you came here for "free stuff" or cuz you thought it would get you a chance to meet one of the artists, then maybe its time you take a look around and re-evaluate what this site is here for and if you cant figure it out ask one of the people who knows. peace, scott

  

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Crossfaded

Mon Nov-15-99 01:00 PM

  
39. "some comments"
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I have already addressed NazDak's entire post but I was scrolling through posts and saw yours and one thing about it bothered me. You say that it seems like it's the new people that are bitching. I don't know whether this is true but whether it is or not, just because someone is new does that mean they don't have anything valuable to say? Maybe their gripes are legit. It seems like a lot of people (and I'm not implying you are one of them) defend the Roots (even when they have made mistakes) just so they can show how "down" they are. I'm new and the only reason I'm new is because I just got a computer. Now I'm on here "10 times a day..."<P>Also, who was it who was asking for free stuff, this keeps coming up but I don't know who it was.<P>Respectfully Yours,<P>Crossfaded<P><P>"I drop bombs like one-armed wide receivers" -- Ras Kass

  

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Apostle
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6. "that's what the hell I'm talking about..."
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Yeah, I got mad the other day and had to post just because I was tired of the bitching over D'angelo's album being pushed back, I know you're mad but the shit will come out when it comes out. I'll be damned if this shit here turns sour because of some bitch ass little ingrates. A long time ago I started posting here because I could just build with people and enjoy the fact that one of my favorite bands gave a damn about the people that support them. not to get a response from a "famous person" or to get "hooked up", if you ingates can't see the gratitude of the artists from just visiting the site I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you folks...on the reals a lot of people need to grow the fuck up. The reason this is getting me so upset is just that so many people see how gracious the artists are and they're trying to just exploit it for thier own damn ego...yeah I wouldn't blame the artists if they didn't want to post any more...it's thier fuckin' site out of thier own kindness, they shouldn't have to be accountable to any of us...just clean up your acts people so we can always call Okayplayer a place we can be proud of. peace, Apostle<P><P>"Don't ask me why. Just go ahead and die. Hidden from the sky out yonder you'll lie: A medal to your family- In exchange for a guy" Langston Hughes<P><BR> <P><P>"That's all right, now I'm on some true work shit." Q-Tip

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LU
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7. "WOW!!!"
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Is all that I can say. Damn Naz, you hit the nail on the head like a mutha. I've been away from the boards for a week cause I was out of town for surgery. I was lookin forward to comin home and seein what has been goin on with my okayfam. Bam it's liketotal fuckin anarchy and shit. I spent last night reading those 60 or so posts about nonsense. Just last week I asked Angie how she was going to handle when this site blows up (considering the hotist artists of the new millenium are all in one place),. You know as well as I that in the not to distant future the majority of people on the site are going to be looking for a hookup, some free shit, introduce me to so and so, my 3rd cousins 4th cousins 2 year old has a rare brain disorder and would like the entire okayplayer crew and staff to perform magic tricks at her bedside (you are all her favourites) etc, etc. <P> I can't lie I've been in this music business of and on since I was 14 and I would love to get a hookup with motive, rawkus or some other company with a love for good music and respect for artists creativity. More than anything I like what they represent. <P> If that never happened though, I'd still be doin my thing the way I always have and I'd still be postin cause the Roots are my favourite group and I like knowing what's goin on with them. I also like the people that I have met through okayplayer.com. Just the fact that ?uest brought such a wacky idea to fruition and allowed it to multiply to include D, the Jazzy's, Common is amazing. Unfortunately I don't think it will be able to continue as a true family because of the amount of negative outside forces that inevitably WILL come into the picture. Greedy, irresponsible and heartless,bitch as fans, Record labels who don't like the way "their" artist is represented. In the end it will be up to us to develope fam of our own so we can beat down and snuff out these okayplayerwannabeez.nutz<P> I for one just wanna thank ?uest for such a fat idea, Angieee, Doug, Shawn, and improv for makin it happen. 89, Naz, Ayana, Tracey, Junior, TheGoodReverend, and all the other okayplayers that I've met for showin me love. Thanx agin<P> By the way the surgery was OKAY. The staff at New England Baptist hospital in Boston is the shiznit. I'll be recuperating for a couple of weeks but I will DEFINITELY see you at the Lily on Tuesday!!!<P> HEY ANGIEE, If you are going to New York tonight, let me know. I might want to catch a ride wth you if you're driving & if I'm up for it<img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"><BR> SEE YA L U <P><BR>"Let no man pull you down, let no man destroy your ambition, because man is but your companion, your equal; man is your brother; he is not your lord; he is not your sovereign master" Marcus Garvey <P><BR>"One good thing about music when it hits you feel no pain" Robert Nesta Marley<P><BR>

  

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Improv
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9. "INGRATES! UNITE!!!"
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And get the fuck out...<P>Hi, Improv!? here. Instead of complaining, I will just say this...nobody owes anybody anything. Nobody deserves special treatment. If you get it, cool. If you don't, that's still cool cuz life goes on.<P>Hey, have you ever walked out in the night and the air is madd crisp. You inhale and you feel alive? Like you take time to reflect on your life, where you're going, and where you need and/or like to be. The point is this: SOME OF YOU NEED TO GET OUT AND LIVE YOUR LIFE!!!!<P>Now as you know I am a Prince/Artist fan to the fullest (Peace to the Boyz and Girlz in the New Boogie Groove (Ahmir, D'Angelo, Brainchild, Crystal, Jeffleejohnson) oh yeah cop Rave un2 a Joy Fantastic and the book DMSR by Per Nilsen. HOT!), you know how many shows I've been to? NONE. Why? Dude has some ol' crazy way of letting folks know he's performing, plus I never have enuff to go (why ya gotta pick an off-pay week? huh huh). Now of course I cried over it, but I GOT OVER IT. Why? Cuz unless they pull a Tupac/Biggie/Big L/Freaky Tah (RIP yall), break up like Tribe, or retire like Too Short or Master P (hahahaha), there will be other shows. I'm still a little bitter at those folks that emailed Angieee asking her why she couldn't get me in the Key Club for that D'Angelo show. Was it her show? No. She had no control over that and I never EVER blamed her. I blamed the folks that put the show together (faggot bitch...sorry...flashbacks <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif">). That's called placing blame where blame needs to placed (and I'm still sorry about that post, for real).<P>Asking is one thing, demanding is another. To quote Tracey, "Who the FUCK are YOU???"<P>To complain over 5 dollars is stupid<BR>To complain about a 21 show is stupid<P>Do you know that all this complaining is stopping people doing their job just to answer your questions and complaints? Witnessed that last night and that's not fair to the staff nor the band. You have a wonderful thing here. They don't HAVE to do this. They WANT to do this, but if they turn cold, I wouldn't blame them. One bad apple...<P>So my fellow Okayplayers, either you put a H on your chest and handle it or find another place to talk shit. That's just my opinion and you are free to agree or disagree with it.<P>*sigh* anybody got any beer?<P>One<BR>Improv!?, yadda yadda yadda...<P>"I'm not a freak...I'm just adventurous"-Me<BR>"The slave thinks he is released from bondage only to find a stronger set of chains"-Trent Reznor (wow...that's deeeep...<img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif">).

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donwill
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13. "*sigh* anybody got any beer?"
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man i drank em all last night..<P>but we can go in on a six pack..word...<P>out<P>cunning linguist since 7:25 7/25/99<BR>swass/knownots/SPAS cardholder<P>-catch me in the y2k wit a new gat goin nuts like baby ruth<BR>DONWILL<P>-if to entertain meant whut entertainment is FUCK SHOW BIZ!!!<BR>DONWILL<P>-peace to all my peeps on the internet..<BR>DR. STEVELOVE....BANANAMAN (damixtape)

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Crossfaded

Mon Nov-15-99 01:10 PM

  
40. "I disagree..."
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Read my post entitled "NAZDAK!!!!!!!!" Peace.<P>Respectfully,<P>Crossfaded<P><P>"I drop bombs like one-armed wide receivers" -- Ras Kass

  

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TinkyWinky
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10. "this...."
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this....<BR>this right here....<BR>THIS is what i think a lot of us have been feelin for a few weeks now, some of us for a few months. i've bitched on these boards before. lord KNOWS i've started some shit. i'm no saint. but i've learned from this shit. nazzie, thanks for puttin into appropriately forceful terms what some of us have been feelin right with you. i'm SICK of these fuckin complaints. every time i come to this site, i get all fuckin giddy. know why? not because ?uest posts on these boards and he MIGHT reply to me some time. nah, i get all giddy because i know this is the place to build with some of the most chillin cats i've ever met (or not met, even). when i post i'd get excited to read a reply from somebody i know and have built with in the past, or from somebody here who's feelin me on an issue, or from somebody who can help me out if i'm askin for it, or somebody who will set me straight if i'm off point, or somebody who's truly as excited about bein a part of this fam as i am. i'm not lookin for ahmir to reply (not that the above wouldn't apply to him). i'm here for the rest of yall. in fact i hereby submit a slightly abridged alphabetical list of okayplayers i'm happy to hear from or even to read posts by:<P>"_", abbot...,yogaflame....<P>that's right, anyboy who falls into that range. get it? EVERYBODY. <P>quit the bitchin yall, we already got it so good just because we all fam. maybe nazzie's right. maybe artists should stop replyin. i'd miss their input but it wouldn't change all the good things i already have. whatever, it's not my decision. <P>i just make the best of what i got. maybe yall need to simmer on THAT for a while.<P><a href="http://www.thehungersite.com">http://www.thehungersite.com<;/a><P>KRH-ONE (nine-nine-nine): the ORIGINAL and ONLY OkayKoolKeith<P>"if it wasnt for hip hop id probally die"<BR> -DaZeD<P>"Where the F*CK is my purse icon??????"

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Steve
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11. "i feel this.."
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Especially the deal about people using this board/site as an oppurtunity to get band member's attention but not at all to talk to the other fans.<BR>People just want to get their attention..and bitch and be stupid.<BR>We should all just ignore it, but you know that never works.<BR>I mean what this site is about, is the entire family of people here, and the fact that alot of dont give a SHIT about that anymore is what ruins the site.<BR>So to the people who post less now cuz they dont like whats going on, that isnt helping either.<BR>Although I'm not sure what we really SHOULD do.<BR>Just some of this bullish has gotten on my nerve.<BR>We cant let that bring us down.<P>Peace,<BR>Steve<P><BR>I no longer worship Mr. 1989.

  

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BuddhaWake

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maybe all this people that cry like babies should go to www.wu-tang.com. Let see how much they get out of it. hahaha. does that even exist anymore? I think not. Stop your bitching.

  

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14. "well..."
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All i know is this, if cats are gonna complain about $5 ROOTS SHOW(WTF IS WRONG WITH YALL?!?!?!?!??!?) and them doin an all ages joint, on Thanksgiving.......well heres what RamXL would do, spit in those cats faces, and make sure no one ever exploits my kindness.....fuck that, I said it before, and ill say it for as long as i live, the Roots have been my favorite artists, and i am honored to have met em, and i realized that they are good fuckin people, and people are exploiting that shit.....and that makes me mad!!!<P>And to all those fuckers that bitch and moan ALL THE TIME, ABOUT EVERYTHING....I hope i never meet yall in person.....<P><P>One Love<BR>RamXL<BR>(b-boy advocate)<P>"guess who bringin the get-busy back/ women say the sound of my voice/an aphrodisiac/ okayplayer.com where you can hit me at" Tyriq<P>"I aint a perfect man, im tryin to do the best that I can, with what it is I have" Mos Def<BR>

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Crossfaded

Mon Nov-15-99 01:23 PM

  
42. "Correction"
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As far as I know, no one ever bitched about the show being $5, that would just be stupid. As a matter of fact, I wondered out loud why the Roots would make the show so cheap after Quest brought up the fact that money was an issue. All the okayplayers I know would have paid $20. Peace.<P>Respectfully,<P>Crossfaded<P>P.S. - Good to see SOME b-boy activists are out there.<P><P>"I drop bombs like one-armed wide receivers" -- Ras Kass

  

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angieee

Sun Nov-14-99 08:36 AM

  
15. "i agree, but"
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What makes me even madder is the people who say they don't post as much because of it.<P>Cause some wild kids move into your block, you move? When you took all that time to plant flowers and make mortgage payments?<P>Why not call the cops, or try to talk to the wild kids, or make some new neighborhood rules.<P>I bet hardly anyone who says they gave up, has taken the time to e-mail the ignorant ones.<P>It hurts me to the motherfucking bone when people say they give up on this site because of others. <P>Y'all all know all you have to do is send me an e-mail about the problem and I will do my best to address it and solve it in whatever way I can. I even put this stuff before most deadlines.<P>If you really just want to stop posting: Thanks, y'all. Just let the dickheads come in and override the place and leave me here.<P>angieee ('stress)<P>"Game recognize game, and that bitch is playing Twister." - me. <P>"Some rappers are heaven sent, but "Self Destruction" don't pay the fuckin' rent..." Ice Cube, the ruler of all. <P>"I'm getting faded" Ice Cube<P>"Don't give me that shit about role model" -Ice Cube.<BR>

  

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Steve
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18. "What Ang said"
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>What makes me even madder is the <BR>>people who say they don't post <BR>>as much because of it. <BR>>Cause some wild kids move into your <BR>>block, you move? When you took <BR>>all that time to plant flowers <BR>>and make mortgage payments? <BR>>Why not call the cops, or try <BR>>to talk to the wild kids, <BR>>or make some new neighborhood rules. <BR> <BR>Exactly, this is what I say.<BR>People got to take the intiative and do more than just complain and leave.<BR>This bullish really aint an obstacle that can overcome to family and the positicity ish that is going on here can it?<P>I mean, I talk to people all the tim who never post anymore and it pisses me off and hurts me too when people say the boards suck.<BR>So bottom line is, everyone should take their own intiative to help.<BR>Peace,<BR>Steve

  

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LaDieMeCCa
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22. "you're right...."
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I step forward as one who has refrained from posting because of this- but you are 100% right...instead of pushing fam away it's better to plant more flowers and hope the weeds leave ::wow eff a sad attempt to be poetic:: Thanks for the words of wisdom though, Angie <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"><P>*LaDie MeCCa*<P>"Banks wanna thank me 'cause my statements are prodigious, style's so prestigious, make a sinner act religious"-- Lauryn Hill

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23. "AGREED...........BUT"
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>What makes me even madder is the <BR>>people who say they don't post <BR>>as much because of it. <BR>>Cause some wild kids move into your <BR>>block, you move? When you took <BR>>all that time to plant flowers <BR>>and make mortgage payments? <BR>>Why not call the cops, or try <BR>>to talk to the wild kids, <BR>>or make some new neighborhood rules. <P>Yeah, but when I'm away from the comp for two hours and the only worthwhile posts have fallen to the 2nd page with 1 reply and the BULLSHIT has fifty replies, there isn't a lot of incentive to post. I don't have the time I use to. So I like to repsond to inventive, thoughful, funny shit. I will ignore bullshit posts but damn they seem to be the norm. <P>I just looked at the Rules everyone gets sent and all of the things we're pissed at are addressed in those rules. These folks ain't payin attention. CRITIQUING and bitching ain't the same thing.<P>THE PROBLEM IS HEADS WON'T IGNORE THE BULLSHIT!!!!! Don't waste your time defending the Roots, because all you're gonna get is called a dick rider and then that bullshit will clog the boards. Y'all keep defending the Roots, the posts stays at the top, other heads see it adn feel damn 35 other heads responded I gotta chime in and then the bullshit nmever ends. These cry babies would be really upset if their bullshit had a nice goose egg next to it.<P>>I bet hardly anyone who says they <BR>>gave up, has taken the time <BR>>to e-mail the ignorant ones. <P>Love you to death Ang, but I'm not emailing some ignorant, spolied 15 year old (or any age for that matter) kid who thinks an artist must do a show for him at a certain venue at a certain time. Even when heads have broken down post after post why they're mistaken, these brats continue to insist that they are correct and all knowing. FUCK THEM.<P>If you're not 21, GET THE FUCK OVER IT. WHEN I was 13 I wanted to go see the Fat Boys at The Fever in the Bronx, but I was too damn young I got over it. You wanna complain, GO YELL AT YOUR PARENTS FOR NOT HAVING THEIR SHIT TOGETHER AND HAVING YOU SOONER.<P>AGAIN, I ask heads to ignore the bullshit!!! <P>I'm not gonna stop posting, but I'm not spending the time I used to on this site cause reasoning with a bunch of know-it-all kids ain't my thing. I've basically stop fucking with the OKP Artist board. The unfortunate thing is it's only a handful of folks doing this. IT'S NOT ALL THE NEW FOLKS!!! But thgese handful of folks are getting a whole lot of attention from everyone. Ignore them.<P>Y'all know I don't usually post talking about folks and giving out negative vibes, but come on y'all just ignore the bullshit!!<P><BR>"Only when lions have historians will hunters cease to he heroes." - African Proverb

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25. "I agree"
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If people just ignored these posts, or better yet, if they actually replied to the thought-provoking, interesting posts to begin with, this wouldn't be an issue. I was the second person to reply to that "eff the roots" post from the seattle kids, and that was what I said: "please let this post die". Why is it that when somebody comes to the boards looking for a fight, they get 50 replies, but if they come with something constructive and thought out, it gets not responses?! I think it's up to the okayplayers to change this. When somebody posts something ignorant, there's no need for every single okayplayer to jump in and start arguing with them. Let's encourage the good posts and ignore the b.s.<P>peace,<BR>murph

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Crossfaded

Mon Nov-15-99 01:34 PM

  
43. "a reply"
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Here's the deal, and where I disagree with you. I know Broke didn't express his frustrations very well. But, he wasn't trying to start a fight. He was simply pointing out how many Roots fans are under the age of 21, and how it would be mad appreciated if the Roots (and their people) would consider making it a point to TRY to book all ages shows, if possible. And it was a request, not a demand. Anyways, Peace.<P>Respectfully,<P>Crossfaded<P><P>"I drop bombs like one-armed wide receivers" -- Ras Kass

  

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24. "damn ang is a cyber freak....."
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>What makes me even madder is the <BR>>people who say they don't post <BR>>as much because of it. <BR>>Cause some wild kids move into your <BR>>block, you move? When you took <BR>>all that time to plant flowers <P>how come my flowers dont grow by my comp?!!?!? Dang, are you stealin em from me, huh sucka, ill get the klangskwad on yo ass.......uhh wha the hell am i talkin about??!?!?? i think donwill has taken over me.....i be postin some nonsense...............haha<P><P><P>>and make mortgage payments? <P><P><P><P><P><P>>Why not call the cops, or try <BR>>to talk to the wild kids, <BR>>or make some new neighborhood rules. <BR>><BR>>I bet hardly anyone who says they <BR>>gave up, has taken the time <BR>>to e-mail the ignorant ones. <BR>>It hurts me to the motherfucking bone <BR>>when people say they give up <BR>>on this site because of others. <BR>><BR>>Y'all all know all you have to <BR>>do is send me an e-mail <BR>>about the problem and I will <BR>>do my best to address it <BR>>and solve it in whatever way <BR>>I can. I even put this <BR>>stuff before most deadlines. <BR>>If you really just want to stop <BR>>posting: Thanks, y'all. Just let the <BR>>dickheads come in and override the <BR>>place and leave me here. <BR>>angieee ('stress) <BR>>"Game recognize game, and that bitch is <BR>>playing Twister." - me. <BR>>"Some rappers are heaven sent, but "Self <BR>>Destruction" don't pay the fuckin' rent..." <BR>>Ice Cube, the ruler of all. <BR>><BR>>"I'm getting faded" Ice Cube <BR>>"Don't give me that shit about role <BR>>model" -Ice Cube. <P><BR>One Love<BR>RamXL<BR>(b-boy advocate)<P>"guess who bringin the get-busy back/ women say the sound of my voice/an aphrodesiac/ okayplayer.com where you can hit me at" Tyriq<P>"I aint a perfect man, im tryin to do the best that I can, with what it is I have" Mos Def

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heaven7
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31. "so much respect"
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angiee my respect for you grows each time i read something you've posted...<BR>what you said really made sense to me because i was just gonna give up on this site because of some things i read, but you made such a clear point with this one that it would be impossible for me to leave.<BR>i'm gonna continue spreading my love around here as long as possible.<P>peace<BR>heaven<P>"self preservation is a full-time occupation..."ani

  

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Geppetto
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16. "Nazzie's right"
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Look, I have had the privalige to have joined the okayplayer family. After attending (a bunch of fucking shows) I got the oppurtunity to meet up with and join the Okayplayer Street Team. When Naz talks about a family, he is right. He is also right when he talks about how the boards show be used not just as a way to try and have someone in the crew read your shit. Use it as a way to discuss what you feel when you see the artist preform. Oh, by the way, if five bucks is really that big a deal, why the fuck are you using your money for internet access? Anyway, voice your opinions to the people who stand with you in the audience. Thats what these boards are about. They are about communication between you and the rest of the extended family. A part of the reason I goto shows is to see all those people who I see everytime. You know who you are too. Anyway, I'm not going to sit here bitching about bitching... I don't got time for that nor do the boards. Anyway, next time you log in to post your beef about an album coming out later or ?uestion's fro being lop-sided, take a deep breath and spare our ears. <BR>Thanks for your time, Geppetto<P>P.S. Tinky, I got some flowers for you at the next show.<P>"Memories don't live like people do." --Mos Def<BR>

  

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19. "Big up naz"
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Thats exactly ehy I had you voted as the okayplayer who would say what was on their mind and not give a damn what anyone else thought. All of that needed to be said, and you were the voice that brought the noise.

  

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20. "tell em like it is naz"
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little punks should come correct!

  

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21. "Word up"
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Naz, you're like our okayWilliam Wallace. We're on some okaybraveheart ish ya'll...!!!!<P><P>"And if I ever meet ya, I'll control-alt-delete ya!" - weird al

  

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27. "word....keep it up."
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Y'all said it..summed up<P>-don't post to the ignorant null*ish threads<BR>-keep up the good ones..(like this)<P>peace<BR>Kyle

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homebro

Sun Nov-14-99 08:33 PM

  
28. "The epicenter of the problem"
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HoMeBrO SaYs people expect too much from the roots.<P><BR>Simply that the roots, are human, and prone to mistakes. They can't satisfy everyone.<P>The real problem is people are sometimes too ignorant to admit they are wrong about a statement they made.<P><P>

  

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Krutch

Sun Nov-14-99 08:42 PM

  
29. "pissed off at seattle kids???"
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hop on over to gen discuss and join my crew... NO S.H.O.W. ... check page two if it aint on page one.... join up!!!!!!!<P>Catch ya later, I'll be "Trollin' for Olives"<P>360* forward --><P>(((around sound)))<P>(((krutch)))(((1999)))<P>"Go Go Buffalo" - Pnub from "Idle Hands"<P>"Turns out... Not where, but who you're with that really matters...that really matters" -D. Matthews<P>"You could die a thousand ways and I'd still love you back to life" - L. Kravitz

  

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MarcOne

Mon Nov-15-99 11:08 AM

  
36. "That's mature"
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I'm glad you have enough of a life to create such an organization. But you fail to realize that by doing this you recognize the power and influence that The SHOW has. And we will only get stronger by putting on some dope ass shows Seattle style. Thanks for the help Krutch!<P>"We all be kinda fly, just can't be afraid to spread your wings."<BR> -Dre of Outkast "ATLiens"

  

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Crossfaded

Mon Nov-15-99 01:41 PM

  
44. "Man, that's just uncalled for..."
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There's enough hate/dislike being spread around here and you do nothing but help it...while S.H.O.W. (which I'm a part of) is trying to do something for hip hop and it's fans. Peace.<P>Respectfully,<P>Crossfaded<P><P>"I drop bombs like one-armed wide receivers" -- Ras Kass

  

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Krutch

Mon Nov-15-99 04:17 PM

  
45. "Defensive"
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You guys always say some stupid shit and end up on the defensive the whole time. Creating the organization took no time and brought you no publicity. You may see it however you like though.<P>Catch ya later, I'll be "Trollin' for Olives"<P>360* forward --><P>(((around sound)))<P>(((krutch)))(((1999)))<P>"Go Go Buffalo" - Pnub from "Idle Hands"<P>"Turns out... Not where, but who you're with that really matters...that really matters" -D. Matthews<P>"You could die a thousand ways and I'd still love you back to life" - L. Kravitz

  

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Crossfaded

Mon Nov-15-99 08:18 PM

  
48. "I wanna cuss you out but..."
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I'm beyond that. It sounds as though you're implying that we created SHOW (which has taken plenty of time) and mentioned it on here just to get notariety. That's just a plain stupid comment. We mentioned that we had founded SHOW in response to someone saying that we needed to get out and do something. We were showing that we were doing exactly that. I don't know how we'd get notariety by posting on here anyway, since you kinda have to be in Seattle to be a part of or take advantage of SHOW. Peace.<P>Respectfully,<P>Crossfaded<P><P>"I get down like people in tornado drills" -- Binary Star

  

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49. "Forget it..."
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Its not worth replying to his posts and giving him more shine than he deserves. You are giving him what he wants. Don't worry about the ones that hate us because they don't understand. I include ?uestionably 4 Tha Love with them because his post regarding wanting to sucker punch me shows that he don't either. He does not know me. Well if he reads this. I will approach him in a non-violent manner. Don't take it personal. Its real easy he could be some 15 year old white kid from Astoria for all we know? Its the internet, heads try and be the man on this shit...

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>Don't worry about the ones that hate <BR>>us because they don't understand. <BR>>I include ?uestionably 4 Tha Love <BR>>with them because his post regarding <BR>>wanting to sucker punch me shows <BR>>that he don't either. He <BR>>does not know me. <P>Like you know him well enough to say what you did in your initial post which caused this bad vibe ?<P>>Its the internet, heads <BR>>try and be the man on <BR>>this shit... <P>Seems like you know yourself very well...<P><BR>krewcial<BR><a href="http://urgent.rug.ac.be/vinylators">http://urgent.rug.ac.be/vinylators<;/a><P>'pardon my expression, but I'm a tear shit up'-Kane<BR>

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30. "silly"
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<BR>like i said earlier, seattle could post their frustrations but sayin eff the roots and they have to do this and that, is wrong...<BR>if the young hiphop scene of seattle act like that..why do u think they only do 21 and over shows? and why do u think hiphop groups dont come there? something to think about...<P>man i still love ya'll!! if u dont come or not!!<P><BR>-and beat up the...-apostle

  

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32. "good shit naz..."
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*in ed mcmahon voice* "YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR" <BR>--res-one--><BR>peace, okayplayers...<P>"symbolize dope, like sirens do terror"- common sense<P>"so what? you carry hot glocks and rocks, so what? that type of rap is #1 on the charts, so what? your video is on MTV, you still ain't an emcee to me"- Krumb Snatcha<P>FREE MUMIA<BR><a href="http://www.mumia.org">http://www.mumia.org<;/a><BR><a href="http://www.thehungersite.com">http://www.thehungersite.com<;/a>

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33. "hmmmm . . ."
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so you go from respondin' to their post to makin' your own post complainin' 'bout them. is that any more productive? i like the roots' music. i love d'angelo's music. i love common's music. so i come here to see what the haps are. since i've been here, i have read so many complaints it's daunting. they seemed to always be put front and center. i read more complainin' and complainin' 'bout complainin' then what i came here for. it makes I$H look real bad as i see it. post and stop complainin' . . . but of course i'm wrong and someone will henceforth put me in my place. peace.<P>blak.<P>to new to be right.

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Jihad

Mon Nov-15-99 07:09 AM

  
34. "Jihad Speaks............."
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whenever you have a picnic you have ants. it seems like even after you kill all the fucking ants the potato salad has gone bad and storm clouds are on the horizon. smell me?<P>nothing left to do but grab whats left of the chicken, get some trees and some brew and have find a spot for the after party. nah mean<P>i gots dat hydro, i know donwill got the Heinikens , okay bredren where you at. <P>"I'm Fighting A Holy War In The Mental" One Of The Gravediggaz<P><a href="http://www.crossmovement.com">http://www.crossmovement.com<;/a><P>sn: JohnPhlow AOL & AIM

  

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listenin

Mon Nov-15-99 07:51 AM

  
35. "And you are???????"
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Who do you think you are? Really. Where do you get off thinking that you can dictate how someone should post or their right to say what they want? I think the Roots are intelligent enough to know that these people aren't the norm and i also think that they are intelligent enough to suss through the bullshit and make their own flippin' decisions. So get off your mighty mountain and like you stated in your post "GROW UP" the world isn't perfect and people don't always have nice things to say, even if it is to someone they like or enjoy. If you create a cyber world common sense dictates that you would be prepared for that. So if you weren't, TOO BAD! Deal with it, but don't get so flippin' self righteous unless God sent you down from that mountain of yours with Two Tablets on how individuals should interact.<P>PEACE<P>Don't bother trying to ghet-to know me. If you know yourself and the role you play in, and the relationship you have with, the world, then we already know each other and introductions aren't necessary.

  

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Crossfaded

Mon Nov-15-99 11:40 AM

  
37. "NAZDAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Oh Nazzy, where do I begin. First off, let me start by saying that you coming on here, and posting the way you did (all disrespectfully and such, with all the cussing and name calling) doesn't help the situation at all. And then for you to close your statement with "Peace" is just pure hypocracy.<P>Now, let me attack your points for a moment (respectfully too, I might add). The kid I assume you're talking about who is mad that the show he wanted to go to was 21 and over and only 5 dollars was my friend Broke. Okay, first of all, if every Roots show was 21 and over, and you never got to see the roots (till you were 21), you'd probably be a little pissed too (you'll probably disagree just for the sake of disagreeing with me). Also, the price was never an issue. Like we (Broke, MarcOne, and myself) all said, we'd be willing to pay 20 bucks a ticket as long as the Roots ACTUALLY SHOW UP! (don't know if you know about the whole Bumbershoot thing in Seattle)<P>Now, I was the one who said Ahmir "had" to do a show on thanksgiving. And if you read the original thread I replied back to him and told him that it was a figure of speech (like, it's a job, but you still HAVE (emphasis added) to do it). I know that he doesn't have to shit if he doesn't want to and I told him that I was sorry he would be away from his family and that his aunt was ill.<P>As for not appreciating this forum...that's bull isht. If we didn't appreciate it we would not post and take it for granted (which is the opposite of "appreciate"). To be a "Roots fan" and not post would be to not appreciate it. I think the Roots put this forum up not only to hear the good but, to hear the bad as well.<P>Of course life goes on if there's not an all ages show in Seattle (which there is now by the way...thanks Quest). We were simply requesting that an all ages show be put on, not asking the Roots to "suit our every need." If they suited my every need they'd have to move to Seattle and do a show here once a month, or some isht like that.<P>Again, we never said Quest "owed us an explanation as to why he charges so much for concert tickets." Like I said, we clearly stated we'd be willing to pay whatever to see the Roots as long as the performed. In fact, I specifically asked Quest why the show was so cheap (I kinda thought they were selling them short, if money is that big of an issue).<P>WE don't want "special treatment" or "free stuff" as you put it. How is asking if the Roots can do an all ages show special treatment? or asking for free stuff for that matter? <P>As for ruining the site by "using it as a means of personal communication with Band members," uh, I think that's what the site was kinda put up for, huh? yeah, exactly.<P>Finally, in case you didn't know, the name of the Roots show here in Seattle is called "The Redemption Show". That's about as close as you can get to admitting that Seattle was "shitted on" , right? Otherwise there'd be nothing to redeem, right?<P>Respectfully Yours,<P>Crossfaded<P>P.S. - I'm 23, just so you know that I'm doing this anyway, even though a 21 show doesn't affect my ability to see the Roots.<P><P>"I drop bombs like one-armed wide receivers" -- Ras Kass

  

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NazDak
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52. "Before I get to school, let me respond ...."
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>Oh Nazzy, where do I begin. <BR>>First off, let me start by <BR>>saying that you coming on here, <BR>>and posting the way you did <BR>>(all disrespectfully and such, with all <BR>>the cussing and name calling) doesn't <BR>>help the situation at all. <BR>>And then for you to close <BR>>your statement with "Peace" is just <BR>>pure hypocracy. <P> To each his own. I think it WILL Help the situation. Thats why I posted it. I ALWAYS say peace to my peoples. You and your corny friends can take that however you like. Maybe it wasnt even meant for you.<P>>Now, let me attack your points for <BR>>a moment (respectfully too, I might <BR>>add). The kid I assume <BR>>you're talking about who is mad <BR>>that the show he wanted to <BR>>go to was 21 and over <BR>>and only 5 dollars was my <BR>>friend Broke. Okay, first of <BR>>all, if every Roots show was <BR>>21 and over, and you never <BR>>got to see the roots (till <BR>> you were 21), you'd probably <BR>>be a little pissed too (you'll <BR>>probably disagree just for the sake <BR>>of disagreeing with me).<P> Let me disagree just because I think you're out of line. ALOT of people never get to see shows until they're a certain age. Since when is that the artists' fault? I'll tell you when....Since THESE particular artists have some form of contact with their fans. Do you think an 18 year old would get all upset at Marilyn Manson because he couldnt get into a concert? Possibly...but would they go on his damn website and say "Fuck Marilyn Manson??" No. Not unless the whole point of the post is to draw attention. Your Broke ass friend had no valid complaints. He was just in dire need of attention. Posting in an attempt to take out some of his frustrations on the boards, and be noticed by the band at the same time. Point is, get over it. Go play with some video games or something..and wait till youre of age. I had to do it, so do you.<P><BR> Also, <BR>>the price was never an issue. <BR>> Like we (Broke, MarcOne, and <BR>>myself) all said, we'd be willing <BR>>to pay 20 bucks a ticket <BR>>as long as the Roots ACTUALLY <BR>>SHOW UP! (don't know if you <BR>>know about the whole Bumbershoot thing <BR>>in Seattle) <P>Well, thats great. You only have to pay 5 dollars for this show! Why was it even challenged by you or one of your friends.<BR> <BR>>Now, I was the one who said <BR>>Ahmir "had" to do a show <BR>>on thanksgiving. And if you <BR>>read the original thread I replied <BR>>back to him and told him <BR>>that it was a figure of <BR>>speech (like, it's a job, but <BR>>you still HAVE (emphasis added) to <BR>>do it). I know that <BR>>he doesn't have to shit if <BR>>he doesn't want to and I <BR>>told him that I was sorry <BR>>he would be away from his <BR>>family and that his aunt was <BR>>ill. <P> Good. You should have appologized.<P><BR>> Like I said, we clearly <BR>>stated we'd be willing to pay <BR>>whatever to see the Roots as <BR>>long as the performed. In <BR>>fact, I specifically asked Quest why <BR>>the show was so cheap (I <BR>>kinda thought they were selling them <BR>>short, if money is that big <BR>>of an issue). <P> How sweet.<P>>WE don't want "special treatment" or "free <BR>>stuff" as you put it. <BR>>How is asking if the Roots <BR>>can do an all ages show <BR>>special treatment? or asking for free <BR>>stuff for that matter? <P> You've got to be kidding, right? People are so damn spoiled from this shit. Be glad youre even GETTING a roots show over there. And Free Stuff?? Please. Now everyone's a charity case?<P>>As for ruining the site by "using <BR>>it as a means of personal <BR>>communication with Band members," uh, I <BR>>think that's what the site was <BR>>kinda put up for, huh? yeah, exactly. <P> Nope. Not Exactly. It was put up as a forum for ROOTS FANS. Not for fans to talk to the roots. It just so happens that the ROOTS appreciate the FANS enough to interact with them. <P>>Finally, in case you didn't know, the <BR>>name of the Roots show here <BR>>in Seattle is called "The Redemption <BR>>Show". That's about as close <BR>>as you can get to admitting <BR>>that Seattle was "shitted on" , <BR>>right? Otherwise there'd be nothing <BR>>to redeem, right? <P> Which brings me to ask you...Isnt a 5 Dollar ROOTS performance redemption enough?? I'm sure alot of people that would be "shitted on" as you put it, to see a 5 dollar roots performance.<P>>Respectfully Yours, <BR>>Crossfaded <BR>>P.S. - I'm 23, just so you <BR>>know that I'm doing this anyway, <BR>>even though a 21 show doesn't <BR>>affect my ability to see the <BR>>Roots. <P> Thats great. Bring your girl or something and dont worry so much about 17 or 18 year olds. They'll be able to see other shows, dont worry. <BR> <BR> Naz<P><BR>"I'm so ahead of my time, my parents havent met yet"--Big L (RIP)<BR> <BR> "PTHBT"--Maria<BR> <BR> Pick up ROOTS COME ALIVE!!! Available in either Single CD or Limited edition Enhanced Double CD. The First Live HipHop Album in almost 10 years...COP THAT!!!!<P>

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Crossfaded

Tue Nov-16-99 07:07 AM

  
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for the civil reply. First off let me start by saying that it was none of us that complained about a $5 dollar ticket price (it's actually $8 now...still hella cheap though). As I have explained, to complain about a price like that would be just plain dumb. It was some punk rock fan who complained, and I can find it for you if you want. <P>Now, you tell me not worry about those 17 and 18 year olds, which I can understand but, they are my friends. And I'm being a good friend by trying to help them enjoy a group that they love as much if not more than I do. I hope that if you were a good friend you'd do the same for yours.<P>Also, Broke did have some valid points, which is what people seem to be forgetting here. I know you probably can't see how they are valid but if you were in Seattle and understood how things work here (with the Teen Dance Ordinance, amongst other things) you'd see how they were valid. I know he didn't express his feelings well but it's because he was hurt, and anger comes from that. I'm sure the only reason he posted on here was because this was the only medium he knew of that he could get his message directly to the Roots or their people. <BR>Trust me Seattle is grateful to have a show. I don't think people even know that there was always going to be a show in Seattle, but it was originally going to be 21 , and that was the only thing that was requested (not demanded) to be changed.<P>As for this free stuff thing...who asked for free shit, I know it wasn't me, MarcOne, or Broke.<P>And as for my apology to Quest...it wasn't for saying "he had to do..." because I explained that it was a figure of speech, like I explained to you. I was apologizing for him having to miss his holiday...and I do appreciate it. I hope he gets right back home and enjoys it.<P>I still think that a group that has as many underage fans as the Roots does should try to make it a point to include those people in their shows. They don't ask for special treatment, just fair treatment (I know, lifes not fair, blah, blah, blah). And I'm not saying that the Roots don't make it a point to include their young fans either.<P>One last thing...I understand that this forum was created for Roots fans. However, my feeling are that once an artist starts to reply and interact with fans, it also becomes a forum to interact with the artists right? I mean, it's a two way street.<P>Peace.<P>Respectfully,<P>Crossfaded<P>"I get down like people in tornado drills" -- Senim Silla of Binary Star<P>"I catch wreck like Red Wings in limousines" -- Senim Silla<P>"Blow! is how I hit you with these, snappin necks like Cristopher Reeves" -- Senim Silla

  

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38. "I Want More"
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So when I heard about the live Roots album I went nuts. Double CD??? And what? LENNY KRAVITZ ON A TRACK??? I couldn't believe it. Lenny was finally going to get props on the quote unquote 'black' radio stations cause he sure doesn't now. Lenny is the shit but he gets no play in the city. Ever been to a lenny kravitz concert? I did. If you're black it's like being a damn raison in milk. And why is that?<P>Then I bought the limited edition album. The second CD only had about four songs and cost damn near twice as much as the regular live album. And NO LENNY KRAVITZ song, just What You Want with Jaguar. Which wasn't that bad a song, but damn! Build the hype and then switch shit on a brotha?!?! <P>All props to the ablum, the whole first CD is tight, but...ahhh, do they have to get a brotha's hopes up? Where's the love??????

  

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46. "When will they learn?!?!?"
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this is sooo funny, and I have seen it quite a bit lately!<P>peace<BR>Kyle

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