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This whole issues seriously troubles me.

I keep reading responses saying in one way or another that "a woman can't raise a boy to be a man". I've heard this all my life and accepted it as fact and I really don't know why. One of the main problems with this line of thinking is the definition of what is and what isn't "a man". Here in the US our definition or example of being a man comes from the patriachal slant perpetuated by the white male ruling class (a class that oppresses the entire world on a regular basis).

In the African American community we are continuosly talking about the plight of the Black male as if the Black male is the saviour of the race. Why do we think that if all of our men weren't in jail, on drugs, etc, we will finally overcome? This also implies that the strength of the Black woman who has carried us and still is carrying us thus far was merely an accident or soley a result of oppression rather than the manifestation of her strength and force as a human being. The logic that demeans and undermines a woman's ability to raise a man is filled with the ideologies of the white male ruling class.

I believe that in the African American community we need to redefine what it actually means to be a man and that the only role we play is that of a human being not male/female. While we have continually tried to preach the good news of the man being the head of the house, history shows us that en masse Black men have never been the head of the household or at least never been able to. Since the times of slavery families were torn apart and strong Black men were sold for higher prices or loaned out for various forms of labor. The Black man has always been seen as a threat to the white man so he suppresses him on every angle. This way of life of course spilled into familial relations after emancipation and has become a sickening way of life following the same chain of events even into this century. Because we know this to be true why don't we find ways to encourage Black women to raise Black men into whole persons? Whether we like it or not Black women will continue to be the ones raising our boys. I also urge everyone in the Black community to re-think the concept of sex roles and redefine them for yourselves. Please don't swallow then regurgitate the propaganda of the ruling class and call it your own. We need our boys and girls to be raised into whole human beings not "men" or "women".

think on this.

-soundz

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"But Moses said to him...Would that all the Lord's people were prophets, and that the Lord would put his spirit on them!"
Numbers 11:29

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Malcolm X on the American Media and Propaganda
Feb, 16 1965 Rochester, NY

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Love Their Sons, Raise their Daughters [View all] , M2, Tue Mar-05-02 07:41 PM
 
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not to post jack
Mar 05th 2002
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However....
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RE: However....
Keyser
Mar 08th 2002
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asian patriarchy...
Mar 08th 2002
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Not the same thing
Mar 06th 2002
4
agreeing w/ M2 and Solarus
Mar 06th 2002
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Opinion
Mar 05th 2002
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RE: Opinion
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It shouldn't be flipped
Mar 06th 2002
5
RE: Love Their Sons, Raise their Daughters
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There are always exceptions
Mar 06th 2002
7
i agree...
Mar 06th 2002
9
RE: i agree...
Mar 08th 2002
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Because of Slavery
Mar 06th 2002
10
that's a lie.
Mar 06th 2002
13
RE: that's a lie.
Mar 06th 2002
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The 60's.
Mar 06th 2002
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      Does this mean
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25
      Doesn't matter
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           Does matter
Mar 06th 2002
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                Lesbianism?
Mar 06th 2002
46
                RE: Lesbianism?
Mar 07th 2002
54
                     strong statement.
Mar 07th 2002
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                     RE: strong statement.
Mar 07th 2002
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                     RE: Lesbianism?
Mar 07th 2002
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                RE: Does matter
Mar 07th 2002
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                     Intertwined???
Mar 07th 2002
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                     Once again...
Mar 07th 2002
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                          Poor/ Low Income White People....
Mar 07th 2002
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                          perception is reality...
Mar 07th 2002
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                          Just proves my point
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                               RE: Just proves my point
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                                    RE: Just proves my point
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                                         RE: Just proves my point
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                                              RE: Just proves my point
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                                              RE: Just proves...cont.
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                                                   RE: Just proves...cont.
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                                                        RE: Just proves...cont.
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                                              interesting point...
Mar 08th 2002
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                     RE: Does matter
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                          Ghetto=Black?
Mar 08th 2002
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      to follow up on Cre8's statement
Mar 06th 2002
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           the problem...
Mar 06th 2002
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Hmmm. You're suspect.
Mar 06th 2002
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suspect of what?
Mar 06th 2002
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During Slave Times...
Mar 06th 2002
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      RE: During Slave Times...
Mar 06th 2002
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           RE: During Slave Times...
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           The Truth.
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                RE: The Truth.
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                     RE: The Truth.
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                          RE: The Truth.
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           RE: During Slave Times...
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                RE: During Slave Times...
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Post #21
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RE: Love Their Sons, Raise their Daughters
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this needs to be taken care of
Mar 06th 2002
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you have a point...
Mar 06th 2002
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Sad Truth
Mar 06th 2002
14
RE: Love Their Sons, Raise their Daughters
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Fortitude, Brotherhood & Honor...
Mar 06th 2002
20
Another sad thing
Mar 06th 2002
21
most detrimental to ANY child
Mar 06th 2002
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RE: Love Their Sons, Raise their Daughters
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RE: Love Their Sons, Raise their Daughters
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      umm
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      RE: Love Their Sons, Raise their Daughters
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Its a ILL situation
Mar 06th 2002
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starts when they're young
Mar 06th 2002
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Read posts 3 & 4
Mar 06th 2002
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      sons aren't raised
Mar 06th 2002
43
Mother's raising Sons
Mar 06th 2002
38
I agree totally
Mar 06th 2002
44
Qualms with the statement
Mar 06th 2002
49
RE: Mother's raising Sons
Keyser
Mar 08th 2002
79
Bullshit
Mar 08th 2002
82
that is the fuckin TRUTH
Mar 08th 2002
81
Manhood classes
Mar 06th 2002
50
Good suggestion
Mar 07th 2002
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RE: Manhood classes
Mar 07th 2002
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RE: AFRICAN'S
Mar 07th 2002
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RE...
Mar 07th 2002
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RE: Love Their Sons, Raise their Daughters
Keyser
Mar 08th 2002
77
IN YOUR FAMILY
Mar 08th 2002
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