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72. "RE: Just proves my point"
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>>>I grew up in White Suburban
>>>communities where you'd have maybe
>>>ONE kid at the local
>>>high school with a baby,
>>>how many Black communities can
>>>say that?
>>>
>>>PLUS, there seems to be a
>>>general trend in White people
>>>being more likely to engage
>>>in Oral sex, which supposedly
>>>doesn't transmitt the disease/isn't as
>>>likely to...because stomach acid kills
>>>the virus before it can
>>>be transmitted....couldn't that be a
>>>factor?
>>
>>or Abortion, just you didn't see
>>it don't mean it didn't
>>exist.
>
>Change your thinking, one doesn't have
>to be like the other.

Never said we had to be like each other, however i find it strange that only blacks and browns are at high ass rates for the disease despite we only make up 24% of the population put together, yet 60% of the population is damn near drama free. This is not to say that that 60% has a miracle drug however they do have the POWER to lower the rates. But considering all the babies that blacks and brown produce i guess they need some form of population control. Which i see to be the same thing happening in Africa. especially since white farmers are being made to flee from some countries.

>Just because white communities aren't
>having as many teenage pregnancies
>doesn't mean they're hiding them.
>You're basically assuming that these
>white communities HAVE to be
>like the Black ones.
>
No they don't have to be like black ones, hell even if we had the equal economic levels and so on we still wouldn't be alike.
However abortion has always been more exceptable amongst whites than blacks. Many black women think of an abortion as taboo and will encourage their daughters to have a child rather than abort. The same goes for latinos.

>Quick thoughts:
>
>I'm 26 and don't have any
>children, something that a lot
>of my friends from High
>School and college don't find
>strange. However, a lot of
>my lower income Black friends
>and family, and lower income
>White friends DO find it
>odd, especially since I've more
>or less been involved with
>someone over the last 8
>years or so.
>
just as my 26 year old sister and my 29 year old female cousin.

>It's called expectations, one group expects
>that they'll eventually have kids
>or that "it's life", while
>the other puts a VERY
>high priority on making sure
>they don't have kids out
>of wedlock.
>
>I went to high school with
>quite a few girls who
>were on the pill, when
>it came to sex, getting
>pregnant was the #1 reason
>offered for not doing it,
>(Disease was second) so even
>she was on the pill,
>condoms were often still used.
>I have a friend who
>has been sexually active since
>he was 15 (Also 26)
>never done it "bareback" even
>though the only two girls
>he slept with was on
>the pill. His experience is
>not uncommon, people are afraid
>of pregnancy before they think
>they're ready.

I get some of what your saying but what is your point for why blacks are at high rates for AIDS compared to whites? Cause I know married black couples without kids and singles without kids or disease, and as far as my friends go I'm the only one with a child, so are you saying that the majority of blacks don't hold not having kids until marriage as a high priority?
>
>Planned Parenthood: It's a Standard Operating
>Procedure amongst a lot of
>the people I grew up
>around and went to college
>with. If a girl becomes
>very sexually active with a
>boyfriend or is just promiscuos,
>she goes to PP to
>get on the pill, get
>a Diaphram, get a depo
>shot, even in high school
>(My high school discretely provided
>the information).

But you grew up in the burbs, how many PP's are in the city where a prodominate number of blacks live? In my town 0.
>
>It's a different environment when it
>comes to safe sex and
>pregnancy.....of course this is more
>true with middle class white
>communities then Blue Collar/Low Income
>ones.
>
But if you gave both the SAME(EQUAL) options and facilities then things might not be so different.

>As for abortions....in a small community,
>it's hard to keep things
>secret and a lot of
>girls can't get them as
>teens, and like I said,
>in that different environment, it's
>all that neccessary.
>
>
>>>
>>>How about better health and sex
>>>education?
>>
>>Your right, unfortunately I have yet
>>to see a PlanParenthood in
>>a black community. And considering
>>'inner city' schools are at
>>the bottom of the barrel
>>(inChicago)I guess "inner city" kids
>>aren't getting the needed education.
>
>I'm in 100% agreement with you.
>When I was in high
>school my girlfriend and I
>just went down there after
>school and she was able
>to get the Birth Control
>pill, no muss no fuss.
>
>
>How many Inner city kids have
>that option?
>
>How many of them fear pregnancy
>like middle class kids do?
>
MANY, no one wants to conitue to live in poverty and everyone wants something better for their kids than what they had.
>
>I've never heard of inner city
>kids hiding their pregnancies, or
>killing their babies because they're
>afraid of their parents finding
>out.
>
well you grew up in the burbs, so how could you know.
>
>>>
>>>How about the fact that disease
>>>transmission occurs exponentially, so all
>>>it takes is one factor
>>>to cause it transmitt faster
>>>in one group then another
>>>and BOOM one group has
>>>a much higher rate.
>>>
>>Okay so your saying the black
>>community are full of hoes?
>>In that case what is
>>to come of the white
>>community considering interacial dating, and
>>seeing that AIDS was first
>>found to be heavy in
>>the white gay male circle,
>>how is it that in
>>less than 10 years the
>>shit suddenly flipped?
>
I'LL GET BACK 2U.

>Who said anything about promiscuity? Even
>with a lower level of
>sexually activity then Whites, ONE
>factor that is going to
>promote aids transmission in the
>Black community can cause much
>higher rates.
>
>Interracial dating is still a small
>% of all relationships, and
>when it happens it occurs
>between people of similar socio-economic
>backgrounds. So a Black Youth
>(Like me) who grows up
>in a White Suburban community,
>is going to benefit from
>the education and resources available
>as well as being influenced
>by that community's attitudes on
>sex and pregnancy.
>
>PLUS, how many Blacks from poor
>Black communities (The ones I
>assume you're referring to) date
>White Women? How many of
>those White Women sleep with
>these guys and don't engage
>in safe sex?
>
>The White Gay Male community was
>the primary focus of a
>lot of the education towards
>preventing the spread of aids
>and was the community with
>the greatest amount of vigilance
>aimed towards preventing its spread.
>On top of that, other
>communities who weren't educated about
>its spread, were operating under
>the assumption that it was
>a "Gay Disease".
>
>
>Nothing suddenly flipped, it was a
>gradual change, people just noticed
>because they thought it was
>a "Gay Thing" AIDS has
>been rising amongst Heterosexual communities
>for some time.
>
>
>Peace,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>M2



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