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>>maybe not during slavery, but once
>>slavery was out black people
>>were marrying, and were joining
>>together in families. There
>>have been plenty of stories
>>where slaves from different plantations
>>found each other after emancipation
>>and then moved together for
>>another life. A prime
>>example of this was Booker
>>Washington, who's real mother got
>>together with a man from
>>a nearby plantation and moved
>>to West Virginia.
>
>A couple of examples don't make
>the rule.......

It's not just a "few" examples, there is plenty of literature that describes how blacks created families and lived together after slavery.

>Like I said, the Census reports
>could be/are likely skewed.

And your proof is?

>Not all Blacks live in the
>South and even if they
>did, it doesn't mean Single
>parent homes wouldn't occur.

I didn't say either one of these. I said a majority of blacks live in the South, which they do and always have. I never said there weren't black single parent homes. I was implying that there weren't as many as most people think pre-1960, nor was there a majority like today.

Like
>I said, talk to people
>who were born into Single
>parent homes in the last
>30 years and ask them
>if their parents were born
>into the same situation.....a lot
>of people are continuing/breaking the
>single parent cycle, not starting
>it.

But why ask them and not the married ones? Isn't that a little one-sided?

Besides, simply going off of mere hearsay based on time periods that were over 50 years ago is not going to prove anything, and it definitely isn't going to trump actual statistics that were made at that time and are going to be more valid. Does Census statistics have numbers right on the money? No. But that doesn't mean they are going to be that far off either.

A concentration of black people live in the Southeastern United States, even today:

http://www.census.gov/geo/www/mapGallery/images/black.jpg

And the Census Bureau reported for African-American History Month that 54% of Black people live in the South.

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/2002/cb02ff01.html

>Not to insult your faith, but
>I don't think the presence
>of a church in someone's
>life community will automatically decrease
>the number of teenage/single parent
>pregnancies, teenage pregnancy rates are
>typically higher in Bible Belt
>states.
>http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/teen_preg_stats.html
>
>Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, North Carolina, Mississippi
>& Tennesee ALL have higher
>pregnancy rates then New York,
>Connecticut, Massachusets, Pennsylvania, & Maryland.....almost
>double in most cases.

That's because those states you mentioned are more densely populated than the Southern states, which are larger in size. Hell, New York and Pennsylvania almost outpopulate all 6 of those states put together.

New York + Pennsylvania = 31,257,511 (according to the 2000 Census
Southern States = 33,258,576

So, of course when you're comparing a state like New York, or Pennsylvania, with 31 million people in between both of them, to North Carolina and Georgia, the two biggest Southern states, in which New York's population more than triples each state alone, you're going to find what you want to find.

I continued to look at that website. Found an interesting little ditty:

http://www.agi-usa.org/pubs/ib_welfare00.html

Their stats say teenage pregnancies rose sharply in the 60's. Well imagine that.

And they coincide with the Census statistics:

http://www.census.gov/population/www/documentation/twps0020/table2.html

That state that there was a sharp rise in births out of wedlock in the United States during the 60's, particularly to black people.

No matter how you place it, this so-called "legacy of slavery" lie to explain current trends in single families in the black community is one of the biggest falsehoods out there today and only serves to shame our ancestors while removing the convictions of personal accountability on today's youth in an attempt to blame something else on whitey. It's a shame when black people will freely call their own ancestors who fought for freedom and strived to make a better life for them to live nothing more than dog-like whores. Pathetic.

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asian patriarchy...
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