>Never said we had to be
>like each other, however i
>find it strange that only
>blacks and browns are at
>high ass rates for the
>disease despite we only make
>up 24% of the population
>put together, yet 60% of
>the population is damn near
>drama free. This is not
>to say that that 60%
>has a miracle drug however
>they do have the POWER
>to lower the rates. But
>considering all the babies that
>blacks and brown produce i
>guess they need some form
>of population control. Which i
>see to be the same
>thing happening in Africa. especially
>since white farmers are being
>made to flee from some
>countries.

It's strange, just look around you, there are plenty of reasons and it's not that Whites all got together and are hiding somethign from brown people.


>>Just because white communities aren't
>>having as many teenage pregnancies
>>doesn't mean they're hiding them.
>>You're basically assuming that these
>>white communities HAVE to be
>>like the Black ones.
>>
>No they don't have to be
>like black ones, hell even
>if we had the equal
>economic levels and so on
>we still wouldn't be alike.

But if we had the same access to information, health care and similar attitudes towards sex, things would be a lot closer.

>However abortion has always been more
>exceptable amongst whites than blacks.
>Many black women think of
>an abortion as taboo and
>will encourage their daughters to
>have a child rather than
>abort. The same goes for
>latinos.

How many Blacks do you know of that have blown up abortion clinics?

Regardless, I think that few of them are getting to the point where they need an abortion (Since the pregnancy rates are so much lower in the first place) and many of them wouldn't abort either, with the heavy presence of Right Wing conservatives infesting the burbs, I don't see it happening very often.

IMHO, they are more likely to simply send the child "to aunt patties house" and have her give up the child for adoption.

>I get some of what your
>saying but what is your
>point for why blacks are
>at high rates for AIDS
>compared to whites? Cause I
>know married black couples without
>kids and singles without kids
>or disease, and as far
>as my friends go I'm
>the only one with a
>child, so are you saying
>that the majority of blacks
>don't hold not having kids
>until marriage as a high
>priority?

I'm saying we don't place the same stigma on having illegitamate kids as Whites do. When you don't have the same Stigma you don't worry about it as much.

Do you think Black families are as ashamed as White ones to tell people that their 16 year old daughter is pregnant, do you think that girl experiences as much of a "social cut" from those around her?

Growing up, White girl around me got pregnant, it was pretty much social death. Guy skipped town, no one would really talk to her, when she came back to school, they refused to let her be on the Cheerleading Squad, she was made fun of, etc, etc...she had to transfer to a new school and her family moved away. In the new town, the passed the girl off as the girl's younger sister.

Know any Black families that would happen too?

In fact, if a girl got pregnant around me, it was a given she was moving away/going to a different school, it was too much to deal with.



>>
>>Planned Parenthood: It's a Standard Operating
>>Procedure amongst a lot of
>>the people I grew up
>>around and went to college
>>with. If a girl becomes
>>very sexually active with a
>>boyfriend or is just promiscuos,
>>she goes to PP to
>>get on the pill, get
>>a Diaphram, get a depo
>>shot, even in high school
>>(My high school discretely provided
>>the information).
>
>But you grew up in the
>burbs, how many PP's are
>in the city where a
>prodominate number of blacks live?
>In my town 0.

Exactly...less birth control availability is going to cause more pregnancies and transmission of disease.


>>
>>It's a different environment when it
>>comes to safe sex and
>>pregnancy.....of course this is more
>>true with middle class white
>>communities then Blue Collar/Low Income
>>ones.
>>
>But if you gave both the
>SAME(EQUAL) options and facilities then
>things might not be so
>different.

Agreed.

>>As for abortions....in a small community,
>>it's hard to keep things
>>secret and a lot of
>>girls can't get them as
>>teens, and like I said,
>>in that different environment, it's
>>all that neccessary.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>How about better health and sex
>>>>education?
>>>
>>>Your right, unfortunately I have yet
>>>to see a PlanParenthood in
>>>a black community. And considering
>>>'inner city' schools are at
>>>the bottom of the barrel
>>>(inChicago)I guess "inner city" kids
>>>aren't getting the needed education.
>>
>>I'm in 100% agreement with you.
>>When I was in high
>>school my girlfriend and I
>>just went down there after
>>school and she was able
>>to get the Birth Control
>>pill, no muss no fuss.
>>
>>
>>How many Inner city kids have
>>that option?
>>
>>How many of them fear pregnancy
>>like middle class kids do?
>>
>MANY, no one wants to conitue
>to live in poverty and
>everyone wants something better for
>their kids than what they
>had.

But look at their actions.

70% of White kids aren't born out of wedlock.


>>
>>I've never heard of inner city
>>kids hiding their pregnancies, or
>>killing their babies because they're
>>afraid of their parents finding
>>out.
>>
>well you grew up in the
>burbs, so how could you
>know.

Touche'

But I doubt the fear/stigma is as high.

If I started dating a woman with a child who had the child when she was in her teens, I doubt my suburbanite friends would be very accepting of her.

Most of my family, some of my Black friends who grew up in the inner city, wouldn't blink, nor would they care.



Peace,





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