>>>I grew up in White Suburban
>>>communities where you'd have maybe
>>>ONE kid at the local
>>>high school with a baby,
>>>how many Black communities can
>>>say that?
>>>
>>>PLUS, there seems to be a
>>>general trend in White people
>>>being more likely to engage
>>>in Oral sex, which supposedly
>>>doesn't transmitt the disease/isn't as
>>>likely to...because stomach acid kills
>>>the virus before it can
>>>be transmitted....couldn't that be a
>>>factor?
>>
>>or Abortion, just you didn't see
>>it don't mean it didn't
>>exist.
>
>Change your thinking, one doesn't have
>to be like the other.
>Just because white communities aren't
>having as many teenage pregnancies
>doesn't mean they're hiding them.
>You're basically assuming that these
>white communities HAVE to be
>like the Black ones.
>
>Quick thoughts:
>
>I'm 26 and don't have any
>children, something that a lot
>of my friends from High
>School and college don't find
>strange. However, a lot of
>my lower income Black friends
>and family, and lower income
>White friends DO find it
>odd, especially since I've more
>or less been involved with
>someone over the last 8
>years or so.
>
>It's called expectations, one group expects
>that they'll eventually have kids
>or that "it's life", while
>the other puts a VERY
>high priority on making sure
>they don't have kids out
>of wedlock.
>
>I went to high school with
>quite a few girls who
>were on the pill, when
>it came to sex, getting
>pregnant was the #1 reason
>offered for not doing it,
>(Disease was second) so even
>she was on the pill,
>condoms were often still used.
>I have a friend who
>has been sexually active since
>he was 15 (Also 26)
>never done it "bareback" even
>though the only two girls
>he slept with was on
>the pill. His experience is
>not uncommon, people are afraid
>of pregnancy before they think
>they're ready.
>
>Planned Parenthood: It's a Standard Operating
>Procedure amongst a lot of
>the people I grew up
>around and went to college
>with. If a girl becomes
>very sexually active with a
>boyfriend or is just promiscuos,
>she goes to PP to
>get on the pill, get
>a Diaphram, get a depo
>shot, even in high school
>(My high school discretely provided
>the information).
>
>It's a different environment when it
>comes to safe sex and
>pregnancy.....of course this is more
>true with middle class white
>communities then Blue Collar/Low Income
>ones.
>
>As for abortions....in a small community,
>it's hard to keep things
>secret and a lot of
>girls can't get them as
>teens, and like I said,
>in that different environment, it's
>all that neccessary.
>

But this mean it wasn't done? I'm sure if someone wanted to have an abortion and keep it underwraps they very well could.
>
>>>
>>>How about better health and sex
>>>education?
>>
>>Your right, unfortunately I have yet
>>to see a PlanParenthood in
>>a black community. And considering
>>'inner city' schools are at
>>the bottom of the barrel
>>(inChicago)I guess "inner city" kids
>>aren't getting the needed education.
>
>I'm in 100% agreement with you.
>When I was in high
>school my girlfriend and I
>just went down there after
>school and she was able
>to get the Birth Control
>pill, no muss no fuss.
>
>
>How many Inner city kids have
>that option? 0 black, just the whitekids that reside on the North side close to Evanston and so on. I don't even see PP's in the south suburbs, guess theres too many brown faces there too.
>
>How many of them fear pregnancy
>like middle class kids do?

So your saying blackmiddle and black poor kids don't fear pregnancy? I doubt that any poor kid, regardless of color, wants their kid to grow up in the conditions they grew up in.
>
>I've never heard of inner city
>kids hiding their pregnancies, or
>killing their babies because they're
>afraid of their parents finding
>out.
>
But you didn't grow up in the inner city, and i knew a few girls that jumped down stairs, duched to no end with pepsi, and got into fights just to loose a kid. As a matter of fact I went to a prodomenately white school to make sure I didn't get pregnant.
>>>
>>>How about the fact that disease
>>>transmission occurs exponentially, so all
>>>it takes is one factor
>>>to cause it transmitt faster
>>>in one group then another
>>>and BOOM one group has
>>>a much higher rate.

One Factor, what factor and do only black and latinos hold that factor?
>>>
>>Okay so your saying the black
>>community are full of hoes?
>>In that case what is
>>to come of the white
>>community considering interacial dating, and
>>seeing that AIDS was first
>>found to be heavy in
>>the white gay male circle,
>>how is it that in
>>less than 10 years the
>>shit suddenly flipped?
>
>Who said anything about promiscuity? Even
>with a lower level of
>sexually activity then Whites, ONE
>factor that is going to
>promote aids transmission in the
>Black community can cause much
>higher rates.
>
What FACTOR? You make it sound like we have a special gene that connects us to AIDS.

>Interracial dating is still a small
>% of all relationships, and
>when it happens it occurs
>between people of similar socio-economic
>backgrounds.
Thats a damn lie. I know plenty of black men and women in lower social groups who are dating and married to whites of higher social groups. Maybe you thought i meant relationship as dating. Not so, I'm talking about people kicking it or just having casual sex, which I'm seeing to be a main purpose for many in interacial relationships.

So a Black Youth
>(Like me) who grows up
>in a White Suburban community,
>is going to benefit from
>the education and resources available
>as well as being influenced
>by that community's attitudes on
>sex and pregnancy.
>
Now what if those resources where available in black communities as well. Do you think we would have the high rate of AIDS or pregnancy? See this is the secret that i was talking about. Although its not a secret, it is still NOT available to black communities and if you think i'm lying go to a inner city black community such as the south or west side of Chicago and tell me how many resources you see.
>
PLUS, how many Blacks from poor
>Black communities (The ones I
>assume you're referring to) date
>White Women?
You'd probably be surprised, but I wouldn't. Also considering you went to college and I'm guessing lived on a campus, tell me how many of the black guys who dated(had sex) with white girls where of middle class? A guy could be from the Icky's (projects), but how would you know that if he didn't tell you? How many white girls would tell a black guy no simply because he is from the inner city.

How many of
>those White Women sleep with
>these guys and don't engage
>in safe sex?
>
I'm not in the bedroom with them so hell if i know, however someone must not be using protection considering the birht of interracial babies is not at a low.

>The White Gay Male community was
>the primary focus of a
>lot of the education towards
>preventing the spread of aids
>and was the community with
>the greatest amount of vigilance
>aimed towards preventing its spread.
>On top of that, other
>communities who weren't educated about
>its spread, were operating under
>the assumption that it was
>a "Gay Disease".
>
This leads us back to resources and availability 101. What good is it to have an antedote (information) that could prevent you from dying and holding it from you.
>
>Nothing suddenly flipped, it was a
>gradual change, people just noticed
>because they thought it was
>a "Gay Thing" AIDS has
>been rising amongst Heterosexual communities
>for some time.
>
But you see whites in general where given the upper hand becuase they were given the information, however it was kept from blacks and browns unitl sometime later, then suddenly the information is giving to us. Well is just a little too damn late and this occurs with every and anything dealing with black people. A prime example is the tuskeegee experiment. Not only was information held back from these men, but the damn cure was too. Once bitten 2wice shy. Who's to say the same thing isn't occuring now.
>
>Peace,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>M2

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