Saw this on Kweli's myspace blog:

2006 is becoming the year that hip hop realizes its mortality. It
used to be like a superhero, with crossing over and selling out as its
kryptonite, but it's not that simple and romantic anymore.
Superheroes don't die, and hip hop has always been too fresh and new
to be affected by the rest of the world.. Sadly the almost back to
back deaths of hip hop icons like JDilla, Professor X and Proof have
me reeling. I am overwhelmed, I can't keep up. Rest in peace Proof,
and my heart goes out to everyone in Detroit hip hop.

I'm in cincinatti right now, working with Hi Tek, and we are coming
with some exciting things. We don't have enough songs for a
Reflection album yet, but Tone did 3 joints on the Beautiful Struggle
album, and he'll probably do more on eardrum. Shout out to everyone
at Pratt and at GW university, I had a great time this weekend... I
got shows in NY coming up, so I am looking foward to see how some of
the new songs work on the crowd..

I am getting ready to tour with the
Roots, which is always a challenge because of how tight they are..
I've got to figure out what I can do to make my show memorable..Black
Thought is the ultimate MC, and every night I'm going to have to keep
the stage hot enough for them to come out..I love it though, touring
with the Roots taught me how to perfrom, especially on the OkayPlayer
tour..and speaking of Okay Player..

I gotta address this..I'm new to blogs and websites and all this
computer stuff, and one reason is because of a bad experience I had in
a chat room on OKP years ago(I haven't been in a chat room since). I
hate the idea of people who are or could be annonymous passing
judgement on you and being mean spirited just because you try to share
your music with the world.. People say that the industry doesn't give
artists like myself enough props, but the real hate always comes from
so called fans who visit this site slash community.

A fan suggested recently that I visit the OKP boards and show some love to the fans,
because they really support me. I said cool, she's right, I can't not
go on there because of something some asshole said 6 years ago, lemme
check it out. The first thing I see is M1's album is terrible. The
person who wrote this bullshit and everyone like them should be
ashamed of themselves. They spend a lot of energy talking about why
they didn't like it, and why does OKP support this artist.. Then
someone else mentions how me how the music me and mos def are making
now is doo doo on a stick, if i got the quote right..and you know
what, y'all can miss me with all that shit. I do this for a living,
like for real, not pretend over the internet. I really get on stage
and travel and go to the studio and buy albums and pay producers and
start labels, on top of raising my family and trynta be active in the
community. Sometimes the artist on OKP don't get the respect that
they give the fans. I haven't heard M1's entire album, but I'm down
by law, and I now music well enough to know that it CAN'T be
terrible.. That's not because he's family, it's because I study the
game, and I know what he brings to the table.

Personally, I like the first dead prez album more than the second, but to fix my mouth to say
it's terrible would be a travesty. I'm sure stic and M like their
second album better, that's how it usually goes. There is nothing
constructive about the criticism. M1 has given his heart soul flesh
blood and art to OUR people. He doesn't deserve this hate, you
asshole. What have you done? Who are you? Where's your album, your
double time flows? Oh, no one knows who you are, so shut the fuck up.
If we can't even get constructive criticism on a site supposedly
representing us, why would we wanna be involved..With that said, Dan
and everybody at OKP do a helluva job..When I participate, it's
because of how hard they work. But just before y'all get all
opinionated, remember that m1 is not an idea, he is a person, who has
given everything he can to make our lives and music better.

But y'all wanna shit on him. The way I feel, nobody writing that stuff can
outrap m1, so they just jealous. Mtulu, congrats on the sucess of
your project..I will listen to it and tell you in person how I feel.
I love that the people of NY demanded your record be added to the
playlist. You said turn off the radio, and they came to you, thats
beautiful.

Sorry in advance if I come off bitter or arrogant. I just seen Proof
got shot, and heard someone talking about getting his album because of
it. You have artist who are alive trynta make a difference, and they
get taken for granted..It upsets me sometimes, but we keep pushing..
one love, thanks for letting me vent..Kweli

a day? an hour? a minute ago?

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and TRUE. people may not like an album, and take things way too far by arguing a point that just isn't there. i didn't participate in the debate but i saw the argument about M1's album. the dude didn't provide any sold evidence whatsoever to as why he didn't like the album. there are tons of millions of people on the internet, and some of them are bound to be assholes. as much as some okp's hate, much more goes on at other sites. for ever okayplayerhater, there are a handful of supporters who actually give a shit and voice their opinion. that is why i like okayplayer.com and the fact that the artists actually interact with their fans in a huge way. that might actually be a reason why people hate so much, because of the fact that artists are present to read the comments and it hits them directly. some people get off at talking shit to the people they are jealous of. its important to remember that there are more than 6 billion people in this world and certain number of those are bound to be assholes. ignore the assholes and listen to the masses. keep making great music Kweli and doing what u do

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PSNid: garshgreen

cuz i know kweli is always showing love for spitkicker, i mean they got haters on there too don't they?

Much respect to Kweli for providing a response which was very accurate and on point. Even though you really didn't have to respond it was good to hear a response. One of the many key points you made was when you mentioned being a true music fan which too many cats don't appear to be. I don't know if it's more conspiracy or what because it can't be that much innocent hatred going on. All I know is that if people who "claim" to have any knowledge of hip-hop aren't in some way able to feel and "appreciate" the music Talib Kweli brings to the world, they ain't "qualified" to be commenting because I really believe they aren't up on hip-hop. Same case and point applies appreciation for M-1. Again this is completely separate from expressing ones opinion, these cat's try to display complete hatred. There is a difference between an honest constructive opinion and hatred. I'm not jockin, sweatin or whatever else sucka's might think but coming from a true fan of hip-hop and an emcee who is quite nice himself I definitely support Talib and for that matter Mos and anybody Kweli associates with because he knows hip-hop. Last but not least, I have a 4 yr old daughter and 6 yr old son who are smart enough to be very aware and appreciative of Kweli's music. The children are honest and smart enough to appreciate dope music when they hear it without being tainted. Peace!!!

Complete 3 w/Fort Nox www.myspace.com/fortnox3

>it can't be that much innocent
>hatred going on.

No hatred is innocent.

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Some walk but never learn to stand still
Common

i dont know what happened in the chat room exactly, but it is kinda funny that they have an angry talib pic on the chat page tho. im going to use that as an avy one day. im not going to touch on that chat room thing tho

anyhow, people are entitled to their opinion. if talib said that he never didnt like an album, then hes gotta be full of shit.

also, i understand he does that for a living, but he also needs to understand that shit like that comes with the terriotiry

i do hate the haters who dont back up their argument. if you going to tell me something sucks, tell me why

like u said, its those people who say negative shit without anything substantial to back it up that are the problem.

there are two sides the coin. imo, excessive dick riding is just as bad, but that doesn't seem to bother the artists so much does it? but yeah, if you're gonna hate on something, atleast be constructive about it and allow the artists to grow from it.

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Republicans and Democrats both f*ck you up the ass, the only difference is that Democrats use a condom

no more drunken bloggings.

For serious.

That was pure comedy though so maybe I should say "keep it up".

.imageyenation.dot.com.

Go on and hate. Hate all you want, if that's all you're gonna do. Give Kwe' some respect. I mean, y'all are sayin this f*cked up shit.. sayin' that him never hating on an album before is untruthful, but hey, that may just be him. For what I know, Talib's one of the most humble artists out there, and I give so much love and respect towards him. So what if someone doesn't hate on any album that comes out, tell me, so what. Are you tellin' me you know exactly what the man is feeling? That is some disrespect right there. You go out there and tell me how it feels to have someone say all that shit to you -- oh, but wait, you're not even an artist. A lot of you guys need a deeper understanding in all of this. THAT was HIS opinion, HIS OWN PERSPECTIVE. And in many ways, I think hes right. There's no album out there that can be that bad. For me-- for an album to be bad, is something like .. listening to fingernails goin against some chalkboard. That kinda shit. If it ain't hurtin your ear, THEN IT AINT BAD. How awful can you guys get with your damn words..

His whole point is that the artists are people but we attatch criticisms to them as if they are only a product. Valid, but really only matters if we were all speaking to these artists in person.

But a forum like this is public more or less, and exists to support anonymous commentary whatever it may be. Dumb ass shit should be expected, because dumbass people populate the world.

It's pretty simple. If Talib's not comfortable with letting the dumb shit roll off his back, he should just stay offline (which I guess he's done mostly, but these random rants are silly).

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fairweather

because I usually can't tell whether an album is good till after I listen to it. And yeah, I started that post. I payed hard earned money for the album and have bought their previous works, I earned the right to give my opinion. Shit I've even seen those cats in concert several times. I use to be a big fan of Kweli also, before dude abandoned his audience and dropped two wack albums. He should concentrate more on his own album than defending one he hasn't even heard yet, clown.

>because I usually can't tell whether an album is good till
>after I listen to it. And yeah, I started that post. I payed
>hard earned money for the album and have bought their previous
>works, I earned the right to give my opinion. Shit I've even
>seen those cats in concert several times. I use to be a big
>fan of Kweli also, before dude abandoned his audience and
>dropped two wack albums. He should concentrate more on his own
>album than defending one he hasn't even heard yet, clown.

your proving his point right there, and as for abandoned his audience......please.....what you think hes a traitor cause he did a track with a mainstream rnb artist (blige) or is it because he just decided to drop a mixtape he had, which might i add is very good for the most part, that didnt have "exactly" what you were thinkin' it was gonna be at the time? Open your mind up, your actin like what these underground artists hate. Someone who thnks just because he/she decides to do their own thing, they're a traitor or they "abandoned" you. Its like a clingy girlfriend, I partially quote from Phonte, theyll love you, support you, and fuck you till no end but right when you wanna go and say, shoot pool with your frinds, they say, NOOOO dont leave me! youll neva come back!! Aint nobody dat can luhh you like me!!" .so show some respect.

But I don't put nothing past OKP nowadays.

and that's a shame since there are ALOT of OKPs that LOVE his work. It's unfortunate that some artists can't look past the haters and see the bigger picture....people love and appreciate what they do.

It just seems like a slap in the face when all Kweli ever discusses on this site is how much hate there is....how about recognizing the people who support you?

I mean everybody is not going to like you or respect the work that you do, that's just the way the world is. So why keep spending so much energy on those people....does it really matter if someone dislikes your material or M1's or whomever....you don't create for others you create for yourself and if people like it...great..if they don't...so what?

What you eat don't make me shit (c)Jay Z & Black Mama's all over the world

I guess his favorite R&B song is Ralph Tresvant's "Sensitivity"

He's avoided chat rooms for 6 years because someone said something oh not so nice about him? Is he really from Brooklyn??

I think he does look past that, but there are times when shit like that really gets to you.

but you can't deny there's a lot of shitty criticism without any type of backup here too.

just offensive, not the least bit constructive


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jy
1974-2006

peace & love

dude. the only time u came on this site it seemed was

a. right before your album came out
b. somebody leaked your album
c. some bullshit about chi town dj 3rd rail

your manager or affiliate came on here threatening an okp because he had the get by remix before it was released. And dude hadn’t even posted it. He just said he had it.

The only time I heard u say okp on a song was “okayplayer hater” on an album that everybody KNEW was gonna be heard by everyone. I’m not as asshole, but I am gonna give it to you straight. After all the shit I mentioned above, you came with an album way below what your fans thought was your potential. I’ve said it once , ive said it a million times some of y’all are quick to run to 106 n park and try to get your stuff on rotation there (good luck) when u got fans right here. U got d’angelo fans, you got JFN fans, u got roots fans, etc… out of all those acts , there are a few people that probably u could reach where they’ll say. “hey u know what, maybe I will check out talib” I know cause I was like that with dilated and the JFN’s.

Then I saw u came back. I was like ok it’s a start he’s here and he’s not bitching….only a few days later to find this. How long have u been emceeing. I know the minute u signed your 1st record deal….there was at least one cat hating on you. you weren’t his flavor, jealousy, you got with his girl, you crushed his man in a battle…for whatever reason. The shit ain’t going no where. Platinum artists like kanye and jill get dissed here everyday too. It happens.

U need to start paying more attention to your fan base rather than your haters. Hell I got people at my job that, in there eyes, I can NEVER do anything right, but I still come to work and do my job. And I know rhyming is your job, however…so is entertaining. Some cats feeling they ain’t being entertained….go read when LL was going through this. The result was momma said knock u out.. u aint’ reached a million sold yet, I don’t think, so u need to work a lil harder. Jill doesn’t need to come here. They gona play her on bet and mtv…. But you…u got a chance to damn near effortlessly promote your stuff, but u are here shooting yourself in the foot.
1. by ignoring your true fans
2. by acknowledging haters..at the some time doing number 1

Stop slighting your fan base..and do like the rock says, “just bring it”. If u can’t see that you and mos’s last albums left a bad taste in your audience’s mouths after waiting for some good shit, then u must be blind.

I don’t run this site so this is jut my opinion. But if u gonna come here, then come. If u are not, then don’t. hell come in here, interact, and defend your music (?uest does that shit all the time lol)…or don’t. either way, stop crying about haters. I don’t know if u know this or not. But okayplayers probably provided a large number of your sales. Stop slighting.

Respectfully,

lazyboi



who sings "I B on that crytonite"? (c) WuGambina

cause dudes who dissed kwe's last album STILL goin to see him at shows. people who hated mos' album still seein him at shows too.

these albums fuckin sucked.

but a lot of these 'haters' jus hatin on the albums themselves. it don't mean i ain't gon see black star rock the mic no more, and it dont mean im not gonna buy the next albums y'all put out. yeh, some people go overboard, but that's a very small minority.

the fans know what they want and although we can respect you tryna do different things we aint gon sugarcoat shit with "constructive" criticism. jus knowing a majority of your core fans disliking your album should be constructive in itself.

that was said oh so respectfully and logically and coherently and reasonably. well done, i agree with everything you said. kwe, just do your thing!

"when's the last time you heard a funky diabetic?"

if you dislike something you better have a good reason for why, rather than that it sucks donkey balls.

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jy
1974-2006

peace & love

if Talib doesn't make another album ever again, he's still one of my top mcs. Brush ya shoulders off and pop yo collar Talib. You gon make it.

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F*ck a Booty (c)Billionheiress

tell me one nice thing he's said about this site or the people on it. everytime he opens his mouth about this place or on this place he's bitching about something. AND making bland albums on top of that.

you know i bought his album, tried to like it, and now it's basically collecting dust. 13 bucks one, but that's a risk u take as a music consumer so i called it even. lol negro ain't about to get my 13 bucks for a bland album THEN keep bitching on top of that.

that's kinda like scott hastings bitching to the pistons over and over. (google) lol


who sings "I B on that crytonite"? (c) WuGambina

This was a blog tho' right? It wasn't like he sent a flashing Inbox, like that album leak.

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I like her bush

who sings "I B on that crytonite"? (c) WuGambina

u dropped science like craig g & marley marl
i think in general people concern themselves too much with the hate
shake them niggaz off, call 'ye and do a 'mama'

actually, that might be dope if he did do like LL did with marley marl with Kanye

<----- The reason your team's players jump into the stands after a TD

develop a tolerance for the negativity on the OKP boards. Talib split before he could develop that tolerance. But who could blame him? He, at the time, was probably incredibly passionate about what he was doing. For someone to chop him down like that was a mistake...an innocent mistake because you may expect Talib would have been prepared for it...but still a mistake by the insulter. JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE PART OF THIS OKAYPLAYER COMMUNITY, DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU OWN THE ARTISTS.

Nobody's album is EVER that bad. The people who appreciate the artist with as much passion as those who hate on the artist need to create a new thread. Others who feel the same way ought to fill it with the same positivity and constructive criticism.

I whole heartedly agree with Talib's:

"But just before y'all get all opinionated, remember that m1 is not an idea, he is a person, who has given everything he can to make our lives and music better."

People need to understand the difference with artists that are asking to be hated and envied versus those trying to be uplifting. If you feeel like something was a waste of your money, think of it this way: It was a gamble to begin with.

still finds his way out in public where they are. i don't see dude staying cooped up in the house cause the cops are bad



who sings "I B on that crytonite"? (c) WuGambina

what does him having a line about cops killing his people have to do with him going out in public? He never said cops kill all black people? damn you sound dumb.

http://myspace.com/bambumusic

www.individualsole.com

http://www.individualsole.com/?p=5256

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGH3OuP9Sek

ridiculous his ass sounds. except your ass didn't get it. well u got it, but u don't even know u got it.

he never said all cops kill all black people but he's implying that the majority of okayplayers disrespect the musicians, hence him not coming here and always dissing. get your head out of your ass..u can see better that way



who sings "I B on that crytonite"? (c) WuGambina

>ridiculous his ass sounds. except your ass didn't get it.
>well u got it, but u don't even know u got it.
>
>he never said all cops kill all black people but he's implying
>that the majority of okayplayers disrespect the musicians,
>hence him not coming here and always dissing. get your head
>out of your ass..u can see better that way
>
>
>
and is he wrong? goddamn you made no point at all dumbfuck. go back and get your ged.

http://myspace.com/bambumusic

www.individualsole.com

http://www.individualsole.com/?p=5256

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGH3OuP9Sek

who sings "I B on that crytonite"? (c) WuGambina

keep making no sense. if you gonna post something be clear.

http://myspace.com/bambumusic

www.individualsole.com

http://www.individualsole.com/?p=5256

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGH3OuP9Sek

sorry u missed the comparison and resulted to insult ...cause u like kweli. i understand.

ok NOW i'm through

who sings "I B on that crytonite"? (c) WuGambina

http://myspace.com/bambumusic

www.individualsole.com

http://www.individualsole.com/?p=5256

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGH3OuP9Sek

negro u came disrespectful 1st with that dumb shit. if u didn't agree or didn't see my point or even felt like i had none, learn how to debate without insults and with respect so that shit won't deteriorate to this point. i respect everybody here. YOU HEAR THAT KWELI?!!? EVEN YOU...YA CRYBABY!

i'm through with this convo.
p.s. that's not really his SSN, people

who sings "I B on that crytonite"? (c) WuGambina

wow posting a fake ss#!? you should think out these jokes before you post them. Good, you're done. Now go expand that little brain of yours. Really homie, You stupid as hell. Next time, try to make sense in your replies.

http://myspace.com/bambumusic

www.individualsole.com

http://www.individualsole.com/?p=5256

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGH3OuP9Sek

come ooon, this is ridiculous.... both of you are fault tho.... grow up.

www.caramellounge.com

i came out my mouth with one insult out of defense cause dude jumped at me sideways from the gate. and i'm done. i appreciate u tying to play peacemaker, but keep that bloody "both at fault, grow up" shit.


who sings "I B on that crytonite"? (c) WuGambina

*waves white flag*

who sings "I B on that crytonite"? (c) WuGambina

all valid points. the one thing to remember is that everyone is entitled to their opinions. it's how they present their opinions that makes ppl say, "oh, i see where you're coming from," or "this cat doesn't even know the half of the half."

about him coming on OKP...isn't this partially his site? my understanding is that the artist put up the money to keep the site up and running. if this is the case, any of the artist can come on here and say what the want. it's kind of like when you have your homies in your car and they say, "is it cool if i smoke a cig?" since it's your car you can yes or no because it's your property, not theirs. their $$ keeps this site up...

be as critical as you want, but make sure you back it up!!!!


Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday.
Tomorrow actually happend today but you planned for it yesterday.
Yesterday will soon be tomorrow so live your life today.
-Los

Reflection Eternal is an OkayArtist. That's Talib & Hi-Tek. Black Star & Talib Kweli are Spitkicker Artists.

last time i checked the artists section (about a minute ago) he was still listed as an OK artist. you can still be affiliated with spitkicker and be an okayplayer

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" A rich man is one with knowledge, happiness, and his health " - Common (G.O.D.)

Republicans and Democrats both f*ck you up the ass, the only difference is that Democrats use a condom

Everyone makes valid points and I completely agree that Kweli needs to focus on his fans. However, hating is not needed. Naturally, hating is in our society, however, there is not a valid reason to justify hating nor leave such hate unadressed. I feel that while constructive criticism is needed (for it was Malcolm el Hajj Malik el Shabazz who once said that criticism is needed and that no one is above criticism) if one does not have any criticism to help the artist progress and make any positive alterations in their craft, then the negative criticism is not needed. I feel that we all understand that artist are people, but we must also understand that those who hate do not represent the true fans who support the artist. As I have stated earlier, I feel that it is important that Kweli focus on those who support his music. However, I feel that everyone needs to address the haters to help the haters gain a better understanding of themselves and the artist. There are those one can not change, however, it does not mean that we discontinue with our efforts to try to make a potent change in our society. Let continue to have complex analysis instead of a black and white view of things. God bless and POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!

FREE THE RADIO POPULATION- TALIB KWELI

http://www.okayplayer.com/artists.htm

3rd column, second one down.

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he rarely visits these boards, and just assumes everyone hates on him.

i guess he never saw any of mike check's posts.

or maybe hes mad at the photoshopped kweli without a hat pics we did.

is there hate? yes.

does EVERYONE here hate him? absolutely not.

is he ignoring those fans by spittin lyrics like "okayplayerhaters" and making blogs like this? yessir.


i understand where he is coming from, but he cant generalize all of okayplayer based on just a few people who hate on him.

If you take a consensus, i believe kweli haters are in the minority.

Somebody post a poll and prove me wrong... or prove me right so he doesnt need to blog about content like this.

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www.twitter.com/allthewaylive

well said...


Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday.
Tomorrow actually happend today but you planned for it yesterday.
Yesterday will soon be tomorrow so live your life today.
-Los

"and the award for this years best avi goes to....



high voltage."

*cheers*


onto the post. I can understand how kweli be mad. Its so easy for people to hate sitting safely behind their computer screens. They dont have an "image" like kwe or the rest of the "known" people on these boards. But as long as no one is saying ish to his face, i wouldnt take it to seriously.

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because I usually can't tell whether an album is good till after I listen to it. And yeah, I started that post. I payed hard earned money for the album and have bought their previous works, I earned the right to give my opinion. Shit I've even seen those cats in concert several times. I use to be a big fan of Kweli also, before dude abandoned his audience and dropped two wack albums. He should concentrate more on his own album than defending one he hasn't even heard yet, clown.

but what's the point in just saying 'this album is terrible' and not giving any details. that's just a brain-fart, there's no point in posting it. if you think it sucks you should say so, but you should also provide some info about what's so bad about it.

>because I usually can't tell whether an album is good till
>after I listen to it. And yeah, I started that post. I payed
>hard earned money for the album and have bought their previous
>works, I earned the right to give my opinion. Shit I've even
>seen those cats in concert several times. I use to be a big
>fan of Kweli also, before dude abandoned his audience and
>dropped two wack albums. He should concentrate more on his own
>album than defending one he hasn't even heard yet, clown.
>
>
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considerin his songwritin, lyrikal ability, beat choices, and interview personality Kweli is one of my top 3 emcees. BS wasn't his best work songwritin wise i don't think, maybe not even beat wise, even tho there was some bangers on there, but lyrically...there's nothin negative u can say about that album. I like how he challenged himself on tracks like work it out, (that's some hard shit to spit) and even we know, where he kept the rhymes real simple, and still had hot lines, "the harder i run to you, the farther we become, it's like my heart is part of some movie that hadn't yet begun." I can see how there can be hate on him, but just like i did right here, u can be constructive without comin off as a hater, just by thinkin first....

Peace

I don't owe it to him to list numerous things that are wrong about it, I don't have all week. he doesn't pay me to tell him technically what's wrong with it. Anyways, my intention on the original post was not to critique that garbage of an album but rather question the standards regarding the quality of music Okayplayer now advertises. Example, look at the banner on the top of your screen right now (THE BUBBA ONE).

>question the standards regarding the quality of music
>Okayplayer now advertises. Example, look at the banner on the
>top of your screen right now (THE BUBBA ONE).

there were numerous threads already explaining the Bubba banner.

bottom line is he isnt associated with okayplayer and its advertising revenue... would you rather pay monthly bills for this site to exist?

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www.twitter.com/allthewaylive

you're a terrible poster

who sings "I B on that crytonite"? (c) WuGambina

the anger probly hit him harder and he blogged it.
it is, however, some immature shit. it seems like whenever he does mention Okayplayer or comes around the boards, he's talking shit about US. if he chooses to ignore the fanbase u claim is in the majority around here, then isn't that his own damn fault?

let's also think about posts in general, and what kind of posts are gonna be worth participating in. love-fest/apreciation posts are nice, but it's ususally all praise. there's little discourse, it's pretty one-way. but in a hate post, or one thats a little less vengeful and could be considered constructive criticism, ur gonna get more viewpoints, more opinions and more heated debates. it just makes for a more interesting post overall, dont u think? i mean as long as it doesn't get silly. then again we can't all post with logic behind our reasoning like an Afkap, or a buildingblock, or a jambone etc.

im not even completely sure what the consensus is on Kweli anymore. i just know he doesn't seem as popular as he was back in the Reflection Eternal days. and i think anyone who is hating on him is doing so in regards to his releases. his live show is pretty dope. it's the music he puts out that's disappointing people.
yet, as much any okp can do to criticise Kweli, Kweli HIMSELF is facilitating more hate by spouting off in hissy-fits like this one. i mean he sounds like a CHILD. a naive one at that. he can't seem to grasp that there's a whole world out there ready and willing to open their mouth, or wiggle their fingers on a keyboard and say something good or bad about him.

watever hate there exists, Kweli is not doing himself or his fans any favours by speaking on it like a bitch.

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We are but a fraction of his fanbase.

The same shit is prolly being said by many more people outside of OKP, but here is the only place where those words linger for all to read.

You gotta learn to roll with the punches, fam.

i feel there are way too many cats on here who hate just because it seems to be the cool thing to do on this site at times. in addition, if you are going to offer criticism (sp?) about somebody or something make it constructive. we are all suppose to be adults here so lets act like it. i know its unrealistic to expect this but that is just how i feel.

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He looks determined without being ruthless
Something heroic in this man, there's a courage about him
Doesn't look like a killer
Comes across so calm, acts like he has a dream
Full of passion

Kweli, if you are reading this then tell me how are you -- a revolutionary emcee who knows how whole communities get demonized everyday based on the perceived actions of a few -- going to condemn a whole community of people who really do love you. In the 1980s, Ronald Reagan condemned all single mothers on welfare by demonizing them all as "welfare queens" who abused the system. Never did he mention all those millions of poverty stricken people whose only means of survival was access to social security. I'm not sayin' that you are wilfully demonizing us all like Ronnie did, but you are blindly painting us all with the same brush. For real, we have black folk, white folk, brown folk, yellow folk, working-class folk, filthy capitalist folk, white capitalists, black capitalists, and broke asses who set aside fifteen bucks on release day to hear what you have created. In response to your "bad experience" and your reaction to that dick who doesn't know an M1 from a Sticman, all i can say is no homo. No homo as in we don't all homogenously act like irrational punks. We are not all a single, unified community of "Okayplayerhaters", even though most of us do have something to say.

No, I don't find you to arrogant. But I do see someone who, like myself, is so insecure that you are blinded to all the love that is around you. I know myself, that I need to take the words of haters with a grain of salt or else I will lose focus of those who contribute beauty to my life. With that said, some people who are critical of me also have very valid things to say that can help me improve at whatever I do. That kind of criticism is derived from love.

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I'm really curious (not trying to be funny). What percentage of people actually read the boards unless there's a link off the front page? Does it actually have a tangible affect on popularity or record sales?

gold album after joining up here. and i personally would never have considered copping dilated if it wasnt' for this site. same for the JFN's

who sings "I B on that crytonite"? (c) WuGambina

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who sings "I B on that crytonite"? (c) WuGambina

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People are hating because he's providing them with garbage
People are hating on the new kwe and mos cause its garbation..not cause they have some deep seeded resentment towards them
They both...fell....off....hard
and now he's gonna use a blog as his weapon?
haha

Personally have to agree with the statements made.

I'm sure every artist at OKP takes their work seriously ... and dumbass opinions and thoughts that either have no valid argument backing them up must just come across as insulting ... I know it would to be me. Personally I visit the forums mainly to read but a lot of members post their 2 cents about everything, and their 2 cents aren't even worth 0.00002 cents, it would be better if they knew when to hold they peace.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, therefore, "I liked...", "I did not like ..." but I dunno. Most of us visiting this website don't personally know any of the artists. But some of us do. Especially the artists themselves, and I'm sure they read these thoughtless opinions a lot differently. So it's easy for somebody to be like, "whatever Talib". I think I've seen a few posts to that effect already.

Love.

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At the very least, one can agree that having the people who have victimized you quantify your mistreatment invokes a sizable conflict of interest.

Wow ...yall can be cruel sometimes I admit it. I swear that they reason yall make some of these statements is because it's a 50 % chance that the artist you talking about is gonna read it. It's just music yall...thats all it is...either you like it or you dont and your entitled to your own opinion. For instance I just made a song that I'm sure most of the people on OKP boards will hate...but guess what I dont really give a fuck. I like it. If the Roots ever do BEP #'s this place will be a war zone! Lol

Yeah I got dreams...and all of em are in my backpack.

I still wub you
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