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Walleye
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"Twins is the hunting ground of all minds that have lost their balance"


          

Here are twenty five guys. I think the Twins would prefer that DeVries is just a commuter between here and Rochester until Diamond is ready to go, but truthfully I don't know if Liam Hendriks has distinguished himself enough that the pecking order is a lock. And Gibson is going to be up sooner rather than later.

Jared Burton
Kevin Correia
Cole De Vries
Brian Duensing
Casey Fien
Liam Hendriks
Mike Pelfrey
Glen Perkins
Ryan Pressly
Tyler Robertson
Josh Roenicke
Vance Worley

Catchers
Ryan Doumit
Joe Mauer

Infielders
Jamey Carroll
Brian Dozier
Eduardo Escobar
Pedro Florimon
Justin Morneau
Trevor Plouffe

Outfielders
Aaron Hicks
Darin Mastroianni
Chris Parmelee
Wilkin Ramirez
Josh Willingham

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2013 Season Pick'em: Position Edition!
Mar 31st 2013
1
RE: 2013 Season Pick'em: Position Edition!
Apr 01st 2013
11
I like all of these answers
Apr 01st 2013
13
RE: 2013 Season Pick'em: Position Edition!
Apr 01st 2013
18
RE: 2013 Season Pick'em: Position Edition!
Apr 01st 2013
19
2013 Season Pick'em: Pitching Edition
Mar 31st 2013
2
this is where i die a little inside
Apr 01st 2013
21
Hot, hot Twins affiliate assignments
Mar 31st 2013
3
^^^Further Joycean Alias Context Clues
Mar 31st 2013
4
i thought we had strong indications of a CO fan doing that alias?
Apr 01st 2013
10
      the only Rockie fan here I think was Khan, however the fact that it was
Apr 01st 2013
23
April 1-4 Twins vs. Tigers, probables, pick'ems
Mar 31st 2013
5
If this is a Big Daddy K.A.N.E. reference, I'll send you 50 dollars
Mar 31st 2013
6
Sadly, it's an Orwell reference
Mar 31st 2013
7
      Orwell is only slightly less ill than KANE
Mar 31st 2013
8
           Excellent!
Mar 31st 2013
9
because i heard it this morning, it was about the twins and depressing
Apr 01st 2013
15
Really? A no-hitter alert?
Apr 01st 2013
16
The return of pick ems!
Apr 01st 2013
17
RE: April 1-4 Twins vs. Tigers, probables, pick'ems
Apr 01st 2013
20
So what did we think of the new guys?
Apr 02nd 2013
24
Game two Twins lineup
Apr 03rd 2013
28
Ugh @ Plouffe first pitch swinging there
Apr 03rd 2013
29
.500!
Apr 04th 2013
30
      i honestly thought we wouldn't see that number this year
Apr 04th 2013
31
           so, where are you sitting on the parade route?
Apr 04th 2013
32
Mauer is batting second!
Apr 01st 2013
12
So here's the order if you're, like, curious
Apr 01st 2013
14
how long has OKTwins been clamoring for this change?
Apr 01st 2013
22
      RE: how long has OKTwins been clamoring for this change?
Apr 02nd 2013
25
MiLB Series of the Week: New Britain vs. Richmond
Apr 03rd 2013
26
Sano 1-3, BB; Buxton 2-5, SB; Arcia HR, 2B; Gibson starting today
Apr 05th 2013
38
Hot starts abound
Apr 07th 2013
46
      three things
Apr 07th 2013
47
           Yeah, Buxton is out of control right now
Apr 08th 2013
48
                all good news.
Apr 08th 2013
49
                     A couple (free) places
Apr 08th 2013
50
                     And yep, love that ONE walk from Meyer
Apr 08th 2013
51
tMEV: "I'm a disgusting sweaty monster. Rawr!"
Apr 03rd 2013
27
4/5-4/7 at Orioles, probables, pick'em
Apr 05th 2013
33
why is TMEV jumping the rotation?
Apr 05th 2013
34
It was the off-day on Tuesday
Apr 05th 2013
35
      eden prairie is the new edina
Apr 05th 2013
36
           RE: eden prairie is the new edina
Apr 05th 2013
37
           Actually, I'm wondering if Lakeville or Burnsville
Apr 05th 2013
39
                Is there anything in Lakeville besides the movie theater?
Apr 05th 2013
41
                     They recently built a second high school, so it must be growing
Apr 05th 2013
42
                          My wife used to work at the One-Potato-Two at Burnsville mall
Apr 05th 2013
43
                               I did not even know the Burnsville mall had one of those
Apr 05th 2013
44
Well it's only 5.5 innings into game one
Apr 05th 2013
40
The Gardy bullpen usage conundrum
Apr 06th 2013
45
4/8-4/10 at Royals, probables, pick'ems
Apr 08th 2013
52
gordon is leading off for the royals?
Apr 08th 2013
53
I think his command may have gone backwards
Apr 08th 2013
55
RE: 4/8-4/10 at Royals, probables, pick'ems
Apr 08th 2013
54
Isn't "It's Kevin Correia" enough reason to pull Kevin Correia?
Apr 09th 2013
56
I'm going to complain about the early scheduling
Apr 10th 2013
57
Trevor May: comfortable with strikeouts
Apr 11th 2013
58
Miguel Sano is making up some ground
Apr 12th 2013
59
Funny Bert Blyleven story from THT
Apr 13th 2013
60
This story kind of has everything.
Apr 14th 2013
63
Twins: Filling up your Friday hotsheet
Apr 14th 2013
61
Oswaldo Arcia, Minnesota Twin
Apr 14th 2013
62
      i didn't watch the game
Apr 16th 2013
67
           RE: i didn't watch the game
Apr 16th 2013
68
Ugh. Do we have to talk about the big club this week?
Apr 15th 2013
64
what did you think of Pigpen (Matt Harvey)?
Apr 15th 2013
65
      Blessedly, I was working when he pitched
Apr 15th 2013
66
Mauer has been... pretty good lately
Apr 17th 2013
69
It was easy to forget just how good of a hitter he can be
Apr 17th 2013
71
      Not in this park
Apr 17th 2013
72
Nice day for prospect-watchers
Apr 17th 2013
70
can you tell me what a 'stress reaction' is?
Apr 17th 2013
73
      I think it's just a usage injury that risks becoming chronic
Apr 17th 2013
74
      The Sano bit is especially huge
Apr 17th 2013
75
Some high-quality Sano video
Apr 18th 2013
76
jeebus ... i forget how BIG he is ... FUN!
Apr 18th 2013
77
      Once he hits AA, we'll get more abundant video choices
Apr 18th 2013
78
twinsinbridgeportagainstsox419thru421probablesandpickems
Apr 19th 2013
79
if comiskey or whatever they call it doesn't fall into a hole ...
Apr 19th 2013
80
      Oh right, the flooding
Apr 19th 2013
81
Two of three with real pitching performances?
Apr 22nd 2013
82
BPro Ten Pack with Sano and Buxton
Apr 22nd 2013
83
miguel mejor: i find your pitching ... cute.
Apr 24th 2013
84
Basically
Apr 24th 2013
85
i'm just going to congregate here for MEJOR news
Apr 29th 2013
86
      He might not be there much into the summer
Apr 29th 2013
87
      So you're saying a road trip to New Britain, CT may be necesarry?
Apr 29th 2013
88
           I think the christmas ornament thing is almost reason enough
Apr 29th 2013
90
      MEJOR made his third hotsheet appearance on Friday
Apr 29th 2013
89
Is it possible that we don't suck?
Apr 29th 2013
91
yeah, i meant to reply to your aside about about thread tension
Apr 29th 2013
92
      He's been less of a disaster since they bumped him in the order
Apr 29th 2013
93
Well, that sucked... how about some farm/draft stuff?
Apr 30th 2013
94
BA: Twins have 1/2 top minorleague teams in April
May 02nd 2013
95
Hartford Courant: Alex Meyer throws weird pitches really hard
May 02nd 2013
96
sadly, the follow up to this story is a L in the tuesday game
May 02nd 2013
97
      There was apparently a rough inning there
May 03rd 2013
98
Twins in Cleveland, probables, pick'ems
May 03rd 2013
99
no clue what happened tonight, so i'll shoot
May 03rd 2013
101
Hot Sheet Twins - Buxton, Gibson, and Polanco "in the team photo"
May 03rd 2013
100
myron fuxton?
May 03rd 2013
102
Sunday FunDay in the minors: May, Mejor, Myron Fuxton*
May 05th 2013
103
Want to see a really easy homerun swing?
May 06th 2013
104
      you didn't even have to think about it, did you? (c) eli cash
May 06th 2013
105
           RE: you didn't even have to think about it, did you? (c) eli cash
May 06th 2013
106
Big Club Chatter: Scott Diamond, Parmelee vs. Oswaldo, Bullpain
May 08th 2013
107
i like it when the twins score 15 runs. more please.
May 09th 2013
108
Sano got HBP in the elbow a couple nights ago
May 09th 2013
109
What the hell happened, I didn't get to watch the game?
May 09th 2013
110
didn't watch either
May 09th 2013
111
OSWALDO!
May 09th 2013
112
Draft Stuff!
May 11th 2013
113
Aaron Hicks' big day out
May 14th 2013
114
my ears did a double take in the car this morning
May 14th 2013
115
Both those homers looked *easy* too
May 14th 2013
116
Olney via BPro: Hicks tidbit
May 14th 2013
118
John Sickels tries to restrain Buxton enthusiasm - doesn't totally fail
May 14th 2013
117
Oswaldo Arcia meets MLB
May 15th 2013
119
Pedro Hernandez down, Caleb Thielbar up, Gibson soon?
May 21st 2013
120
And it's Sam Fucking Deduno
May 21st 2013
121
Prospect Roundup! Parks on Buxton, Rosario, Harrison
May 21st 2013
122
Colabello up... what's the other shoe?
May 22nd 2013
123
Mejor: "Let's play two!"
May 22nd 2013
124
most (un)equal vanimal
May 22nd 2013
125
Can't believe Gardenhire left him in on the second walk
May 23rd 2013
126
      and vanimal is headed to AAA
May 23rd 2013
127
           Nobody is falling for his act
May 23rd 2013
128
                and, yet, we would still make him go through the MiLB motions
May 23rd 2013
129
What is our offense?
Jun 03rd 2013
130
BPro polls scouts on Buxton vs. Sano
Jun 04th 2013
131
Between this and the feature in the Strib
Jun 04th 2013
132
      The Buxton Ascent
Jun 04th 2013
133
      I've been all over
Jun 04th 2013
134
           are the Walleyes ever not moving?
Jun 04th 2013
137
                It's 1700 books. We counted.
Jun 04th 2013
138
      You're gonna make me do the perfect world lineup again
Jun 04th 2013
135
           couple things
Jun 04th 2013
136
                RE: couple things
Jun 04th 2013
139
Soooo, what do you do with the fourth pick in a three player draft?
Jun 05th 2013
140
For what it's worth, here are the top-three again from BA
Jun 05th 2013
141
Oh, and cheers to the return of Sam "Fucking" Deduno
Jun 05th 2013
142
the change our rotation needed
Jun 05th 2013
143
      In total?
Jun 05th 2013
144
           perkins has 34
Jun 05th 2013
145
                No, it is not
Jun 05th 2013
146
Stewart/Eades... Twins load up on pitching early
Jun 07th 2013
147
Aaaaaand more pitching
Jun 07th 2013
148
where, oh where are the middle infield prospects?
Jun 07th 2013
149
      This year was famously short on them
Jun 07th 2013
150
Stewart sounding signable, Eades on ESPN2 today
Jun 08th 2013
151
Miguel MEJOR promoted to AA New Britain
Jun 10th 2013
152
i am crossing my fingers against plate setback bleeding into
Jun 10th 2013
154
      Me too
Jun 10th 2013
156
I was at both games yesterday
Jun 10th 2013
153
MiLB: Meyer tinkers with delivery, strikes out everybody
Jun 10th 2013
155
Byron Buxton played on TV and this happened
Jun 11th 2013
157
fort meyers soon?
Jun 11th 2013
158
Apparently, Terry Ryan hinted that was coming
Jun 11th 2013
159
Do we *want* to dial back the Buxton hype?
Jun 11th 2013
160
      jj cooper = latest acolyte of The Buxton Ascent
Jun 11th 2013
161
Official Delmon Young Revenge Monitor
Jun 11th 2013
162
He got it out of his system last year
Jun 12th 2013
164
Some trademark Twins . . . speed?
Jun 12th 2013
163
"Jesus" @ Mike Pelfrey
Jun 13th 2013
165
I think Mauer's K% is eeking downward
Jun 19th 2013
166
Kohl Stewart signs at slot
Jun 19th 2013
167
Looking at the calendar, it's time to talk trade options
Jun 20th 2013
168
Right on time, STrib asks about the buyer/seller question
Jun 21st 2013
171
      gleeman and the geek rambled about this on sunday
Jun 25th 2013
175
           One of the starters rounding into "form" is probably our best look
Jun 26th 2013
176
                while doumit is tradeable
Jun 26th 2013
179
                     Agreed, that's been a really valuable arrangement
Jun 26th 2013
180
Why isn't Brian Dozier better?
Jun 20th 2013
169
Miguel MEJOR's first AA homerun - video
Jun 20th 2013
170
Gibson to debut, Buxton to Ft. Myers, Sano struggles/homers
Jun 24th 2013
172
BPro's mid-season top fifty prospects: Buxton, MEJOR, Meyer
Jun 25th 2013
173
Kepler, Minier make 2013 debuts/Short-season news
Jun 25th 2013
174
KFFL: Alex Meyer MRI returns clean
Jun 26th 2013
177
Giancarlo Stanton's first go-round with AA
Jun 26th 2013
178
I could watch Mauer knock around mid-rotation righties endlessly
Jun 27th 2013
181
Twins Territory is now Gibsonia!
Jun 30th 2013
182
Mackey: Could Miguel Sano debut in 2013?
Jun 30th 2013
183
UZR for a half-season is useless, but if it weren't useless...
Jun 30th 2013
184
Byron Buxton to Florida State League: I think I'm getting it
Jul 01st 2013
185
JJ Cooper's next installment of Byron Buxton erotic fiction
Jul 01st 2013
186
      at what point is this getting out of hand?
Jul 01st 2013
187
           I think we may be past that point
Jul 01st 2013
188
Jason Parks scouts AA New Britain: MEJOR, Rosario, Pinto, May
Jul 02nd 2013
189
Willingham to DL, Hicks to return
Jul 02nd 2013
190
back to willingham: hurt since end of april?!
Jul 03rd 2013
191
      Yeah, our OF situation makes this unacceptable
Jul 03rd 2013
192
My favorite prospect growing point: the reverse platoon split
Jul 03rd 2013
193
I don't want Scott Diamond to suck anymore
Jul 08th 2013
194
fixed that for you.
Jul 08th 2013
195
      You're not wrong
Jul 08th 2013
196
      Hicks...y(?): unboring for a night
Jul 09th 2013
197
They say command/control is the last thing to return after TJ
Jul 09th 2013
198
You're going to want to watch the Futures Game this year
Jul 11th 2013
199
it's good to be a twin ... but even better to be an ex-twin
Jul 16th 2013
200
Wow.
Jul 16th 2013
201
      you can run down the list and rationalize most of them
Jul 16th 2013
202
It's the second half - What the hell do you want to talk about?
Jul 18th 2013
203
is there a way to become a barnstorming team of 4-5 players?
Jul 19th 2013
204
      Or they could play "pitcher's poison" like in kickball?
Jul 19th 2013
206
           besides anderson, i'm rather meh on coaching changes
Jul 19th 2013
207
                RE: besides anderson, i'm rather meh on coaching changes
Jul 19th 2013
208
                     well ain't that about a bitch
Jul 19th 2013
209
                     Liriano is 16-7 with zero no-decisions in 23 starts
Sep 11th 2013
285
MiLB Roundup... Law List, Rosario, Walker, May
Jul 19th 2013
205
Rosario, Walker make BA's Hot Sheet
Jul 19th 2013
210
Anybody feel any kind of way about not sucking the past few days?
Jul 23rd 2013
211
It does seem like the air is cleaner and food tastes better
Jul 24th 2013
214
      would you even notice?
Jul 24th 2013
215
      Sano and Buxton both homered yesterday!
Jul 24th 2013
217
PiPress: Mauer Twins arriving, Catchers step in
Jul 24th 2013
212
our own royal babes!
Jul 24th 2013
213
      Well done, that website
Jul 24th 2013
216
Controversy! Sano benched for delighting in homerun
Jul 26th 2013
218
... ... ... meh ... ... ...
Jul 26th 2013
219
The guy he homered off of was an ex-Twin farmhand
Jul 26th 2013
220
one thing angers me about this
Jul 26th 2013
221
And he made the hotsheet anyhow
Jul 26th 2013
222
Did Felix & 'kuma have 50+ straight scoreless innings against yall?
Jul 27th 2013
223
I know Felix had 26 coming into today
Jul 27th 2013
224
RE: Twins is the hunting ground of all minds that have lost their balanc...
Jul 29th 2013
225
happy, happy, happy, sad ...
Jul 29th 2013
226
      Wow, that's a day
Jul 29th 2013
227
Buxton Ascent gets player of the week ... nods.
Jul 30th 2013
228
RE: Buxton Ascent gets player of the week ... nods.
Aug 05th 2013
229
I'm not going to look up Morneau's split since the trade deadline
Aug 11th 2013
230
Miguel Sano is driving his own bandwagon... straight to hell
Aug 12th 2013
231
we've been through this before ...
Aug 12th 2013
232
      RE: we've been through this before ...
Aug 12th 2013
233
           beautfiul. thank you.
Aug 12th 2013
234
                Arcia got added right before the 2012 season
Aug 12th 2013
235
                     Speaking of Arcia....
Aug 12th 2013
236
Stephen Gonsalves: Fuck you, other 29 teams
Aug 13th 2013
237
Andrew Albers
Aug 13th 2013
238
Yes and no?
Aug 13th 2013
239
minnesota twins: "ALL WE DO IS HOMER!" ... huh?
Aug 13th 2013
240
I got nothing for this
Aug 14th 2013
241
      despite the loss, willingham kept it going last night
Aug 14th 2013
243
           :-(
Aug 15th 2013
245
                He did hit a homer
Aug 15th 2013
246
                     does he have something against flowers?
Aug 15th 2013
247
We got an actual prospect for Drew Butera
Aug 14th 2013
242
So Sano/Buxton will be in the coming SI?
Aug 15th 2013
244
I think I'm going to see Miguel Sano play this weekend
Aug 19th 2013
248
that would be very cool
Aug 20th 2013
249
did this ever happen?
Aug 29th 2013
260
      Sadly, it did not
Aug 29th 2013
261
Kohl Stewart E-Town debut: 4 IP, 8 K, 1 H, 1 BB
Aug 20th 2013
250
is there an innings limit in the twins system?
Aug 21st 2013
251
      It's case-by-case, I think
Aug 21st 2013
252
So, the concussion thing going to be what does it?
Aug 22nd 2013
253
Finally, this SI article on Buxton/Sano
Aug 25th 2013
254
that's a bit much.
Aug 26th 2013
255
      I hate the innocent-country-kid shit with Buxton
Aug 26th 2013
256
BA: Scouts divided on Adam Brett Walker
Aug 27th 2013
257
Jesus @ these AFL assignments
Aug 28th 2013
258
BPro Arizona Fall League preview
Sep 03rd 2013
270
Willingham claimed by Orioles... trade talks?
Aug 29th 2013
259
anyone but the orioles!
Aug 29th 2013
262
RE: Willingham claimed by Orioles... trade talks?
Aug 29th 2013
263
BA: Josmil Pinto = Wilson Ramos
Aug 30th 2013
264
Twins spot three on final HOTSHEET of 2013
Aug 30th 2013
265
damn, the end of an era...
Aug 31st 2013
266
Honestly, this is really sad
Sep 01st 2013
267
      RHP Duke Welker is Player to be Named Later
Sep 01st 2013
268
The Chris Colabello audition
Sep 03rd 2013
269
Red Wings, Kernels, and Miracle all make MiLB playoffs
Sep 03rd 2013
271
Trevor Plouffe is playing like he wants a Miguel Sano debut
Sep 06th 2013
272
that's brutal
Sep 06th 2013
273
      I think he literally missed that by over a foot
Sep 06th 2013
274
           i couldn't help but giggle a bit ...
Sep 06th 2013
275
                Kyle Gibson: A New Nope
Sep 06th 2013
276
                     well played.
Sep 06th 2013
277
                          I was bummed too, hoping it'd be an unambiguous rise
Sep 06th 2013
278
mike pelfrey is not good at beisbol.
Sep 06th 2013
279
No, he isn't - and I don't want to think of where he ranks...
Sep 10th 2013
280
Instructs notes: Rosario, Harrison, Wimmers, etc.
Sep 10th 2013
281
BA's 2013 Minor League Player of the Year: Byron Buxton
Sep 11th 2013
282
So, helping buy the hype
Sep 11th 2013
283
BA Player of the Year chat snippets!
Sep 12th 2013
287
Is it time for Gardy to go?
Sep 11th 2013
284
To answer a different question, I don't think that would help
Sep 12th 2013
286
Twins spot four on BA's minor league All-Star Team
Sep 13th 2013
288
Pinto/Mauer --> a 2014 Roster try
Sep 16th 2013
289
that's a sexy little lineup
Sep 18th 2013
290
      RE: that's a sexy little lineup
Sep 25th 2013
292
      Masahiro Tanaka scouting report
Sep 25th 2013
293
      terry ryan thinks $21m over 3 years is HUGE
Sep 27th 2013
296
           Yeah, and it gets tired running through the bargain scratch-offs
Sep 27th 2013
297
      Lewis Thorpe is another low-minors name to watch
Sep 25th 2013
294
Roster Scavenger Hunt: He's just not a good baseball player
Sep 25th 2013
291
Appy League top-20 and a sidenote on pitch-framing
Sep 26th 2013
295
"Nelson Algren came to me..." Rounding up 2013
Sep 29th 2013
298
STrib: Two more years on Gardy, staff
Sep 30th 2013
299
there's only one logical solution
Oct 01st 2013
300
      RE: there's only one logical solution
Oct 01st 2013
301
Buxton, Berrios, Walker, Polanco make MWL top-20/Chat excerpts
Oct 01st 2013
302
Mackey: Computers! Innovation! Malcolm Gladwell books!
Oct 01st 2013
303
40-man elbow room: Twins outright DeVries, Clete, Roenicke, Martis
Oct 04th 2013
304
Eastern League top 20...with TWINS!
Oct 14th 2013
305
can we change the title of this post?
Oct 14th 2013
306
      RE: can we change the title of this post?
Oct 14th 2013
307
           too bad meyer doesn't have those miss-matched eyes
Oct 15th 2013
308
                Those are the best mix of safety/upside
Oct 15th 2013
309
                Or we can ask John Sickels - first off-season Twins org list
Oct 15th 2013
310
                BA's early draft rankings might offer a 4th face
Oct 16th 2013
311
ESPN1500: Twins adjusting to AFL splendidly
Oct 16th 2013
312
i chuckled at the model UN setup of the twins clubhouse
Oct 17th 2013
313
      Every team is required to send six prospects (and only six)
Oct 17th 2013
314
MLBTR: Twins hire Molitor to coaching staff
Oct 22nd 2013
315
RotationPorn: Alex Meyer AFL video
Oct 23rd 2013
316
my favorite part: individual team uniforms
Oct 23rd 2013
317
      It's why they wear the blandest hats possible
Oct 23rd 2013
318
Sticking a pin in off-season possibilities: Stephen Drew
Oct 25th 2013
319

Walleye
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1. "2013 Season Pick'em: Position Edition!"
In response to Reply # 0


          

Mauer Doubles vs. Willingham Homers
Hicks steals vs. Plouffe homers
Florimon plate appearances vs. Florimon on-base average x 1000
Dozier extra base hits vs. Parmelee homers
Morneau walks vs. all other infield walks
Doumit games caught vs. Mauer games caught
Hicks homers vs. Mauer homers

Give me..... Mauer, Hicks, plate appearances, Dozier, Morneau, Doumit, Hicks

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Drizzit
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11. "RE: 2013 Season Pick'em: Position Edition!"
In response to Reply # 1
Mon Apr-01-13 08:11 AM by Drizzit

  

          

>Mauer Doubles vs. Willingham Homers
mauer - don't see the same year from willingham

>Hicks steals vs. Plouffe homers
hicks - see above

>Florimon plate appearances vs. Florimon on-base average x1000
eesh ... OBA. POSITIVITY!

>Dozier extra base hits vs. Parmelee homers
parmelee

>Morneau walks vs. all other infield walks
morneau ... another eesh. does this include post-trade walks?

>Doumit games caught vs. Mauer games caught
mauer

>Hicks homers vs. Mauer homers
hicks

  

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Walleye
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13. "I like all of these answers"
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>>Florimon plate appearances vs. Florimon on-base average
>x1000
>eesh ... OBA. POSITIVITY!

I thought this was a particularly devious question because there's a few ways it can go.

1. Florimon could hit and get on base better than we think and therefore get 500 plate appearances and come out on the bottom here

2. Florimon could hit and get on base better than we think and still be an offensive liability that needs to be replaced, so he'll get fewer plate appearances and win the OBA prize.

3. Florimon could hit exactly as poorly as we all think, and then there's almost no way he wont rack up enough PAs to eclipse this mark because that's really not very many PAs.

>>Morneau walks vs. all other infield walks
>morneau ... another eesh. does this include post-trade walks?

Oof. I'm not sure how to answer that. Bad stuff.

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18. "RE: 2013 Season Pick'em: Position Edition!"
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>Mauer Doubles vs. Willingham Homers
Doubles
>Hicks steals vs. Plouffe homers
Plouffe
>Florimon plate appearances vs. Florimon on-base average x
>1000
Plate appearances
>Dozier extra base hits vs. Parmelee homers
Parmelee
>Morneau walks vs. all other infield walks
Infield
>Doumit games caught vs. Mauer games caught
Doumit
>Hicks homers vs. Mauer homers
Hicks

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19. "RE: 2013 Season Pick'em: Position Edition!"
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>Mauer Doubles vs. Willingham Homers
MAUER

>Hicks steals vs. Plouffe homers
PLOUFFE

>Florimon plate appearances vs. Florimon on-base average x
>1000
PLATE APPEARANCES, unless i don't get math

>Dozier extra base hits vs. Parmelee homers
DOZIER

>Morneau walks vs. all other infield walks
ALL OTHER (assuming you mean combined)

>Doumit games caught vs. Mauer games caught
MAUER

>Hicks homers vs. Mauer homers

HICKS
>

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2. "2013 Season Pick'em: Pitching Edition"
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Kevin Correia strikeouts vs. Glen Perkins innings
Kyle Gibson innings vs. Cole DeVries innings
Scott Diamond wins vs. saves recorded by not Glen Perkins
Mike Pelfrey GIDP vs. Bullpen wins
Liam Hendriks walks vs. Tyler Robertson innings

Ugh. This was a bummer so I'm stopping.

Give me Perkins, Gibson, Diamond, GIDP, Robertson

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21. "this is where i die a little inside"
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>Kevin Correia strikeouts vs. Glen Perkins innings
perkins

>Kyle Gibson innings vs. Cole DeVries innings
gross, gross, gross. devries. *SIGH*

>Scott Diamond wins vs. saves recorded by not Glen Perkins
diamond

>Mike Pelfrey GIDP vs. Bullpen wins
bullpen, of course. *BIGGER SIGH*

>Liam Hendriks walks vs. Tyler Robertson innings
robertson

  

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3. "Hot, hot Twins affiliate assignments"
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Got a favorite prospect and want to know which league he shall be whaling upon this season before his inevitable promotion and rise to fame? Here are assignments of noteworthy prospects:

AAA Rochester
-Kyle Gibson
-Bruce Pugh
-Sam Fuckin' Deduno
-Anthony Slama
-Deolis Guerra
-Chris Herrmann
-Joe Benson
-Oswaldo Arcia

AA New Britain
-Mike Tonkin
-Alex Meyer
-Trevor May
-Alex Wimmers (DL)
-Josmil Pinto
-Danny Santana

A+ Ft. Myers
-Madison Boer
-Zach Jones
-Adrian Salcedo
-Eddie Rosario
-Miguel Sano
-Levi Michael
-Nate Roberts

A Cedar Rapids
-Luke Bard
-J.O. Berrios
-Hudson Boyd
-Mason Melotakis
-Manuel Solimon
-Niko Goodrum
-Jorge Polanco
-Travis Harrison
-Byron Buxton
-Romy Jimenez
-Adam Walker

Soooooo, we've got a good system now so there are actually reasons to pay attention to all of these. That doesn't always happen. Arcia's promotion to Rochester gives them, along with Gibson, an upside that occurs in addition to the usual "these guys will be MLBers". Bruce Pugh is a bullpen name to watch though. I saw him this summer and he had some back-of-the-pen stuff. And Sam Fucking Deduno will be there. Enough said?

I think New Britain has the least interesting affiliate, but May and Meyer fronting that rotation make it noteworthy on its own. Wimmers should be out until mid-summer at least, but he'll be interesting when he returns. And if Danny Santana is going to take the leap, this is where he needs to show it.

Ft. Myers has the star power with Rosario and Sano. This wont be an easy stop for them because it's a very, very difficult place to hit. So if they do, you have my permission to freak the fuck out.

Cedar Rapids is probably the best affiliate here, which is nice in case any of you are planning a road trip. To Iowa. They've got legit prospects at every position but catcher (and the recently converted Tyler Grimes is still pretty interesting) and that Jimenez, Buxton, Walker outfield could be one of the minorleague's best. Fun stuff in Cedar Rapids this year.

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4. "^^^Further Joycean Alias Context Clues"
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10. "i thought we had strong indications of a CO fan doing that alias? "
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at least, joyce kept popping up in rockies discussions.

  

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23. "the only Rockie fan here I think was Khan, however the fact that it was"
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still baseball-related with a team as arbitrary as the Colorado Rockies coupled with Walleye's affinity for literature leads me to believe that the Rocks part was just to throw us off the scent.

  

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5. "April 1-4 Twins vs. Tigers, probables, pick'ems"
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Probables!

The Most Equal Vanimal vs. Verlander
Correia vs. Sanchez
Pelfrey vs. Porcello

Pick'ems!

Twins wins vs. Tigers wins
Correia earned runs vs. Verlander strikeouts
Mauer hits vs. Cabrera putouts
Hicks walks vs. Dozier defensive double plays
Mastroianni starts vs. Escobar starts
Most Equal Vanimal backwards-Ks vs. Porcello strikeouts

Give me:

Twins, Verlander, Cabrera, Dozier, Escobar, M.E. Vanimal

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6. "If this is a Big Daddy K.A.N.E. reference, I'll send you 50 dollars"
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>The Most Equal Vanimal

As in "King Asiatic Nobody's Equal"

If you can confirm this, I will paypal you 50 dollars

or donate to a charity of your choice

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7. "Sadly, it's an Orwell reference"
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I cannot tell a lie. About this at least. Because we discussed it briefly in the Twins spring training thread.

The nickname "Vanimal" was imported from his days as a Philly. Nobody particularly likes it but we couldn't do any better. So I proposed as a temporary solution that we crib the final, essential command from Animal Farm: "all animals are created equal but some animals are more equal than others".

Most Equal Vanimal

So, I'm sorry to disappoint you and whatever cause could have used the fifty dollars.

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8. "Orwell is only slightly less ill than KANE"
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>So, I'm sorry to disappoint you and whatever cause could have
>used the fifty dollars.

I'm in the habit of donating to causes fairly frequently
anyway so don't feel like total shit

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9. "Excellent!"
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We could have really upped the class in here and choose some "Road to Wigan Pier" Orwell, but that one's still packed away at my grandmother's house.

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15. "because i heard it this morning, it was about the twins and depressing"
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/ranking-30-opening-day-starters-around-major-league-172314066--mlb.html

verlander? #1 with a no-hitter alert.
TMEV? #28 ... eesh. feel like i will be typing that a lot this summer.

>Twins wins vs. Tigers wins
tigers

>Correia earned runs vs. Verlander strikeouts
verlander

>Mauer hits vs. Cabrera putouts
mauer

>Hicks walks vs. Dozier defensive double plays
hicks

>Mastroianni starts vs. Escobar starts
escobar

>Most Equal Vanimal backwards-Ks vs. Porcello strikeouts
TMEV, because ... fuckit.

  

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16. "Really? A no-hitter alert?"
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>verlander? #1 with a no-hitter alert.
>TMEV? #28 ... eesh. feel like i will be typing that a lot this
>summer.

Look. We suck and he's really good. I'm comfortable with that. But the lineup still features two former MVPs and a three-time batting champion. If there were a reference in that article to the hovering-around-freezing temperature then maybe they'd get a pass, but it doesn't come up and of all the various reasons the Twins suck this year an inability to scratch some singles against a great pitcher wont be one of them.

I also have marginally higher hopes for The Most Equal Vanimal than the 28th best pitcher on this particular group of starters, but I'm not going to argue with yahoo this early on that point.

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17. "The return of pick ems!"
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Let's get optimistic

>Pick'ems!
>
>Twins wins vs. Tigers wins
Twins
>Correia earned runs vs. Verlander strikeouts
Verlander
>Mauer hits vs. Cabrera putouts
Hits
>Hicks walks vs. Dozier defensive double plays
Dozier
>Mastroianni starts vs. Escobar starts
Mastroani
>Most Equal Vanimal backwards-Ks vs. Porcello strikeouts
MEV

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20. "RE: April 1-4 Twins vs. Tigers, probables, pick'ems"
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>
>Pick'ems!
>
>Twins wins vs. Tigers wins
TWINS

>Correia earned runs vs. Verlander strikeouts
VERLANDER

>Mauer hits vs. Cabrera putouts
MAUER

>Hicks walks vs. Dozier defensive double plays
HICKS

>Mastroianni starts vs. Escobar starts
MASTROIANNI

>Most Equal Vanimal backwards-Ks vs. Porcello strikeouts
VANIMAL

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24. "So what did we think of the new guys?"
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Liked The Most Equal Vanimal's fastball movement, if not the velocity, and gained some hope that he'll have some really nice days with this approach. He'll get dinged a lot too though.

Liked Hicks' final plate appearance after getting worked by one of the best pitchers in baseball. That's why he's here already.

Didn't like the relative absence of actual, identifiable off-speed pitches from Worley - though I can concede this could improve as the weather warms. That's how the Brad Radke army became more Blackburn than Radke.

Didn't like Hicks getting abused that badly. Put the ball in play, chief.

Didn't like Florimon booting a potentially important ball at short in the late innings.

Didn't like the shallow bench.

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28. "Game two Twins lineup"
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And the Kevin Correia era began with the same lineup as Monday.

1. Hicks - CF
2. Mauer - C
3. Willingham - LF
4. Morneau - 1B
5. Doumit - DH
6. Plouffe - 3B
7. Parmelee - RF
8. Dozier -2B
9. Florimon - SS

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29. "Ugh @ Plouffe first pitch swinging there"
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The only traction the Twins have is that they've worked Sanchez pretty well considering they haven't gotten anything going. Take a strike or two, sir.

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30. ".500!"
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The good:
-The lineup is mostly working counts
-defense looked strong. they'll need that behind this staff

The bad:
-no thump so far
-need to keep working counts against the bullpen too. hear that, Mr. Hicks? That's supposed to be your strong point. It's not going to be a seamless introduction to MLB life for you one way or the other, but don't struggle because you're swinging at high and away fastballs.

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31. "i honestly thought we wouldn't see that number this year"
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it's the second game of a 162 game season.

mission accomplished?

*goes back to waiting for E2 of GoT*

  

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32. "so, where are you sitting on the parade route? "
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i've already marked a spot outside the local at nicollet & 10th.

120 wins, bitch.

  

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12. "Mauer is batting second!"
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Question. Is a Twins player permitted to do that if they don't play second base?

If this doesn't violate some organizational rule, then I like the potential OBA stack at the top of the order.

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14. "So here's the order if you're, like, curious"
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Take pitches, Twins. Take pitches.

1. Hicks - CF
2. Mauer - C
3. Willingham - LF
4. Morneau - 1B
5. Doumit - DH
6. Plouffe - 3B
7. Parmelee - RF
8. Dozier - 2B
9. Florimon - SS

SP: Worley

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22. "how long has OKTwins been clamoring for this change? "
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quite a while is the answer. let's hope willingham and morneau can show out like 3-4 hitters so gardy doesn't get the itch to slide mauer back.

granted, you would need an actual #2 hitter to move into the slot, but lets fret about one thing at a time.

  

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25. "RE: how long has OKTwins been clamoring for this change? "
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>quite a while is the answer. let's hope willingham and
>morneau can show out like 3-4 hitters so gardy doesn't get the
>itch to slide mauer back.

Basically. It's weird to think that this is the personnel to do it when we've had better lineups. But those two can be two L/R thumpers we need in that heart of the order.

One thing that interests me about the timing of this (it's happened before, but has never seemed so permanent as to occur on opening day, I think) is how much Hicks has to do with it. He's there for his patience and his OBA, and Mauer's power contribution is gap doubles so it's easy to see how that will work. But I also wonder how much Gardenhire reasons that he's there to provide protection so that Hicks is encouraged to get the bat off his shoulder once and awhile. His breakout last year was by getting more aggressive without sacrificing what he already did well - more inducement to continue that could be the goal.

Relevantly, most research seems to agree that lineup protection doesn't exist - either by results or pitch selection. But that reasoning hasn't really gained much traction with managers.

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26. "MiLB Series of the Week: New Britain vs. Richmond"
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I'm going off expectations for this one because I'm fascinating by the off-season additions of Meyer and May, both in the New Britain rotation.

I have no idea what the order of probables are for the Rock Cats, but with a four-gamer to open the season in Richmond then I think we can be assured that both of them will start games if they're ready. May will be repeated AA for his new organization, while Meyer is receiving an aggressive bump from his relatively few high-A games in 2012. Keep an eye out.

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38. "Sano 1-3, BB; Buxton 2-5, SB; Arcia HR, 2B; Gibson starting today"
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Gibson is at five IP, 3 K, 5:2 GB:FB rate so far. One earned run, two hits.

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46. "Hot starts abound"
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Buxton: .563/.611/.938, 2 SB
Arcia: .400/.526/.933
Sano: .438/.526/.563... and apparently looks good at third early
Rosario: .389/.421/.611
Meyer: 5 IP, 1 Er, 8 K, 1 BB
Gibson: 5 IP, 1 ER, 4 K, 0 BB

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47. "three things"
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buxton = HOLY SHIT + my avy.

if i'm reading sano's line right, that's a lot of singles which seems ... weird. i am entirely delighted that he's putting contact tool to work, but still weird. good news on the glove as well.

any news on rosario in the field?

  

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48. "Yeah, Buxton is out of control right now"
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>buxton = HOLY SHIT + my avy.

The Twins are the sort of organization to wait for him to adjust to the adjustments. But another team might look at this and think, "This is dumb. If he's still doing this in a week then move him up."

Some of the stuff that hasn't shown up in the line but has made game descriptions has been cool too. He's apparently gotten on base through fielder's choices a couple times by simply being too fast to double up even on routine DP grounders. I'm a bit too excited to wait for the other shoe to drop like it did with Sano last year where MWL pitchers just stopped throwing fastballs, because the idea that Buxton could be ahead of the curve in turning his tools into an actual baseball player is pretty appealing. Reality can wait.

>if i'm reading sano's line right, that's a lot of singles
>which seems ... weird. i am entirely delighted that he's
>putting contact tool to work, but still weird. good news on
>the glove as well.

There's been a couple of doubles but I took note of that as well. Bracketing the fact that it's been a small sample of games, if this continues I think the things we should look to as explanations are:

-Ft. Myers, where hitting for power is really tough

-Some attempt on Sano's part to make better contact. He didn't strike out until yesterday's game (2) and given his previous rates that's a notable amount behind the curve. Minorleaguers rather notably don't add skills in a linear fashion, and it's possible that the thing he'll have to do to make better contact for awhile is to sell out for the homer a bit less frequently. As long as he keeps up the walks (so far so good on that) and finds his power eventually without sacrificing his gains (this is where we rely on scouting that in contact says he doesn't need to put a good homerun swing on a ball to hit it out of the park) then this is all part of a good thing.

>any news on rosario in the field?

No. But I read a chat with Jason Parks of BPro, who is a notable un-fan of Rosario because he thinks he can't play second and will be a tweener in the outfield. Without committing to "Rosario can play second," Parks' admission that Rosario is looking more and more like a real, future MLBer indicates something I'd read elsewhere this winter: that scouts think his athleticism and work ethic will lead to more or less continuous play at second as long as he hits. So, the glove matters, but if the Twins see a bat that they need at second to get into the lineup and they see Rosario as somebody who will keep working to improve - then the glove might not matter.

I'm interested to see what that looks like, but in the meantime I'd just rather have him be good over there. He had a great WBC for Puerto Rico, but they didn't play him at second much, if at all.

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49. "all good news. "
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do you have a particular MiLB site you peruse for information or do you just go to our affiliates websites?

also, i completely glossed over the super-sexy pitching line by meyer. more please.

  

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50. "A couple (free) places"
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Baseball Reference now has stat lines for the minors, but I don't think they keep splits and game logs, so I go to minorleaguebaseball.com. They also added a feature recently where you can sort daily box scores by affiliate, which is a good way to just give it a once-over and look for any interesting lines:

http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?sid=milb&org=142&ymd=20130407

Though, my Buxton enthusiasm meant I completely missed the big Cedar Rapids story this weekend, which is that three pitchers combined to throw a no-hitter for the Twins low-A affiliate. Only one is a semi-prospect that I know of, Tyler Duffy, who went 7 IP with 7 K. But pretty cool for all of those guys.

Additionally, the latest Twins group-blog project, Twinsdaily.com has enough writers scattered around the country that they've been posting actual game stories with a focus on Twins prospects that, say, the local Cedar Rapids paper might not include. That's where the tidbit about Sano's glove came from, for instance.

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51. "And yep, love that ONE walk from Meyer"
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He could move fast if he achieves some kind of mechanical consistency. Every description of his stuff sounds like an extremely unhappy day at the park for hitters, so if he's around the plate and they can't wait him out... trouble trouble.

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27. "tMEV: "I'm a disgusting sweaty monster. Rawr!""
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More nickname information, I suppose. Did anybody ever watch "Burn Notice"? Perhaps it's still on. Whatever. That show used to drive me crazy because it's lead actor would be running around Miami, shockingly well dressed, and fighting bad guys *without* sweating. Like at all. I had to stop eventually because it was driving me crazy that he hadn't ruined all of his clothing.

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_22919159/tom-powers-twins-starter-vance-worley-can-take

Tom Powers: Twins starter Vance Worley can take the heat, even in the cold
By Tom Powers
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Posted: 04/01/2013 12:01:00 AM CDT
Updated: 04/02/2013 10:39:01 AM CDT

It's 35 degrees and, with the wind chill, feels 10 degrees colder. No one is comfortable. Fans are huddling under heat lamps. Players are scurrying up to the clubhouse for a quick thaw.

But Vance Worley is lounging on the bench with a towel wrapped around his hands. If anyone should be kept warm and dry between innings, it's the starting pitcher. Yet Worley sits there watching the old ballgame.

"I was down on the bench sweating," Worley said after the Twins' 4-2 loss to the Tigers on Monday, April 1. "It's genetics, I guess. I don't need sleeves or anything like that."

Yes, he pitched in short sleeves, and several of us turned blue just watching him.

"For me, I stay hot all the time," he said. "I was sweating just walking out there to play catch today. With sleeves, it would have been really hot out there."

Here's a fellow you probably wouldn't want to sit next to on an airplane or in a crowded theater.

"It's just on a ball field," he explained.

Before it was all over, Worley went six innings. For Twins fans who have suffered through the past two years, here's what was different:

Worley had some bad luck early, but quickly stabilized the ballgame. After getting nicked for three runs over the first two innings, in large part because of a couple of bleeders, he regained control. The game did not spiral out of control, as it so often did in 2012. Instead, he got things turned around.

Here's what was the same: The Twins lost.

"It would have been

nice to get a W,' " Worley said. "The ball is going to roll a certain way."
He went six innings, throwing 101 pitches and allowing just those three runs. The Twins eventually closed to 3-2 and had the bases loaded with one out in the seventh. That was the moment. But Trevor Plouffe couldn't put his bat on the ball, and then Chris Parmelee swung at a 3-2 pitch in the dirt. End of rally, inning and game.

But Worley certainly looked a cut above what we saw take the hill in 2012 for the Twins.

"I thought he settled in really nice and did a heck of a job for us," manager Ron Gardenhire said. "He gave us a heck of an opportunity. I really love watching him out there. He works fast; he holds runners. He had a good angle and a nice breaking ball. He did a really nice job."

Here's the other thing: How many guys are going to give you 100 pitches on Opening Day in near-freezing temperatures? This was a great sign. And although the Twins lost, it was a competitive ballgame, interesting to watch. And the Twins were done in by a lack of clutch hitting, not starting pitching.

Gardenhire noted that Worley was up in the strike zone very early, perhaps because of Opening Day adrenaline. But Worley made an adjustment. He fixed what was wrong and was able to keep the Twins in the game.

"I like groundballs; that's what I try to do," Worley said. "I try to get quick outs. Strikeouts, for me, aren't a big deal.

"I need to get the ball down. I finally got it down. Next (second) inning it started to work its way down. Finally, by the end of that inning, it was coming out where it needed to. Towards the end of the second inning, I started feeling everything was coming out the way I wanted it to. You'll have games like this. And you'll have games where you go out there and say, 'Here it is.' "

This is a good thing. I'm not saying we've got a Cy Young winner on our hands. I'm saying here's a guy who knows what he is doing. Here's a guy who can make adjustments on the fly -- the way a big-league pitcher should.

And here's a guy who has the metabolism of a large reptile. How else could he pitch in short sleeves like that?

"I sweat a lot. It was just a matter of time before I heated up," he said.

It was a solid debut for Worley, who could help make it a better summer for the Twins. But if he sweats this much in near-freezing temperatures, he might just be a puddle by August.

Tom Powers can be reached at tpowers@pioneerpress.com.

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33. "4/5-4/7 at Orioles, probables, pick'em"
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Twins in Charm City. Win Twins. Take pitches.

Arrieta vs. Hendriks
Tillman vs. The Most Equal Vanimal
Hammel vs. De Vries

How about we pick'em?

Mauer total bases vs. Hicks strikeouts
Twins rotation strikeouts vs. Twins bullpen strikeouts
Twins wins vs. Orioles wins
Tyler Robertson batters faced vs. Twins homeruns
Twins stolen bases vs. Glen Perkins saves

Give me:

Mauer, rotation, Twins, homers, stolen bases

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34. "why is TMEV jumping the rotation? "
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>Arrieta vs. Hendriks
>Tillman vs. The Most Equal Vanimal
>Hammel vs. De Vries

do we really not like de vries? or eden prairie?

>Mauer total bases vs. Hicks strikeouts
mauer

>Twins rotation strikeouts vs. Twins bullpen strikeouts
bullpen

>Twins wins vs. Orioles wins
twins

>Tyler Robertson batters faced vs. Twins homeruns
twins dingers

>Twins stolen bases vs. Glen Perkins saves
stolen bases

BONUS PICK'EM: double-fictional, wheelchair-bound orioles fan from the west side playing hooky and in attendance vs gardy ejections

  

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35. "It was the off-day on Tuesday"
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It gives teams a chance to use four guys the first run through the rotation. Some teams had it stacked so they could go another week, but not us.

>do we really not like de vries? or eden prairie?

I just... don't understand how he gets people out. And I don't like not understanding. As a non-native, I'm agnostic on Eden Prairie.

>BONUS PICK'EM: double-fictional, wheelchair-bound orioles fan
>from the west side playing hooky and in attendance vs gardy
>ejections

EJ!

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36. "eden prairie is the new edina"
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>I just... don't understand how he gets people out. And I don't
>like not understanding. As a non-native, I'm agnostic on Eden
>Prairie.

so, you'll find it hard to stay on the fence, but your non-resident status will allow you not to cast a ballot for a while.

>>BONUS PICK'EM: double-fictional, wheelchair-bound orioles
>fan
>>from the west side playing hooky and in attendance vs gardy
>>ejections
>
>EJ!
>

i was trying to come up with something equally unlikely ... like parmelee steals, but ... that happened, so i was stumped.

M21 was nice enough to lend me S5 recently for my second completion of the series. forgot how much i LOVE gus. probably helped in contrast to scott and "the dickensian aspect" senior editors, but still ... great character for only a season.

  

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37. "RE: eden prairie is the new edina"
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>so, you'll find it hard to stay on the fence, but your
>non-resident status will allow you not to cast a ballot for a
>while.

I went to Edina once. I had breakfast. Story over.

>M21 was nice enough to lend me S5 recently for my second
>completion of the series. forgot how much i LOVE gus. probably
>helped in contrast to scott and "the dickensian aspect" senior
>editors, but still ... great character for only a season.

My wife gave our entire box set to a friend (somewhat coincidentally from Baltimore) before we left Nashville. If we ever see those again, I will be slightly surprised.

Gus was pretty terrific. For whatever reason, I was never taught to ... value... journalism. I suppose that't the best way to put that. So it took awhile in for season five to grab me. Simon's not the subtlest writer around, but his willingness to go on-the-nose once again and have a character embody what is good about a field that he obviously loves was pretty helpful.

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39. "Actually, I'm wondering if Lakeville or Burnsville"
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or somewhere south of the river isn't becoming the new Eden Prairie. One Eden Prairie is already too many Eden Prairies for this state.

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41. "Is there anything in Lakeville besides the movie theater?"
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We used to go there when we visited my wife's family down in Montgomery. I didn't realize it had grown past that absurdly large megaplex.

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42. "They recently built a second high school, so it must be growing"
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But I couldn't actually tell you anything else about Lakeville.

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43. "My wife used to work at the One-Potato-Two at Burnsville mall"
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She burned her hand in the fryer there. And then stuck it in the ice bin. So... if you ate some potatoes there in 1998 and washed it down with a soda then you probably consumed some of Mrs. Walleye's handskin.

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44. "I did not even know the Burnsville mall had one of those"
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Or that Burnsville had a mall. It sounds familiar, though.

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40. "Well it's only 5.5 innings into game one"
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>Mauer total bases vs. Hicks strikeouts
Bases
>Twins rotation strikeouts vs. Twins bullpen strikeouts
Bullpen
>Twins wins vs. Orioles wins
TWINS
>Tyler Robertson batters faced vs. Twins homeruns
Dingers
>Twins stolen bases vs. Glen Perkins saves
Saves

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45. "The Gardy bullpen usage conundrum"
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He runs a good bullpen, on the whole. Nobody languishes on the bench. Players rarely get over-used except when the rotation can't hold up their end. And he's had a long history of getting great performances out of guys with mixed track records elsewhere.

Furthermore, departing relief pitchers continually remark on how the strength of his management is giving people defined roles that put them in a position to succeed. That's part of managing people, and it's non-negligible.

At the same time, we needed somebody better than our third-best lefty in to face Davis (shit, and Markakis) yesterday. Our closer happens to be pretty good and left-handed, so maybe that was a good opportunity to think outside the box and bring Perkins in to retire the best part of the Orioles order.

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52. "4/8-4/10 at Royals, probables, pick'ems"
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Correia vs. Santana
Pelfrey vs. Guthrie
Hendriks vs. Davis

I'm losing confidence that Liam Hendriks is going to get it. Or that this is the right organization for him to do so anyhow. I actually like his off-speed stuff better than most of the other Clone Army recruits to come through the past few years. He can be closer to Scott Baker than to Nick Blackburn, for instance. But watching him nibble nibble with that iffy fastball is just so frustrating.

Anyhow, not changing the prognosis of this team and pretending they're good just because they're in first (wooo?!) but I like our hitters against these three righties. Even on the bad days, the lineup has been working deep into counts, and that could do a lot against Santana. Hopefully, one of these guys will get Mauer going.

How about some pick'ems?

Correia strikeouts vs. Santana walks
Mauer strikeouts vs. Morneau walks
Pelfrey GIDP to Twins game two GIDP
Twins wins vs. Royals wins
Eduardo Escobar starts vs. Jamie Carroll starts
Twins stolen bases vs. Twins homers
Billy Butler doubles vs. Brian Dozier hits

Give me: Santana, Morneau, Pelfrey, Twins, Escobar, homers, and Butler

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53. "gordon is leading off for the royals? "
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huh?

>I'm losing confidence that Liam Hendriks is going to get it.
>Or that this is the right organization for him to do so
>anyhow. I actually like his off-speed stuff better than most
>of the other Clone Army recruits to come through the past few
>years. He can be closer to Scott Baker than to Nick Blackburn,
>for instance. But watching him nibble nibble with that iffy
>fastball is just so frustrating.

walleye circa 2009/10(?) was all interested in watching him nibble the corners and pull the string, so to speak. guess it's good to know you don't jump ship easily ... which makes sense as a twins fan.

>Correia strikeouts vs. Santana walks
correia

>Mauer strikeouts vs. Morneau walks
morneau

>Pelfrey GIDP to Twins game two GIDP
pelfrey

>Twins wins vs. Royals wins
twins

>Eduardo Escobar starts vs. Jamie Carroll starts
carroll

>Twins stolen bases vs. Twins homers
homers

>Billy Butler doubles vs. Brian Dozier hits
butler.

  

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55. "I think his command may have gone backwards"
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>walleye circa 2009/10(?) was all interested in watching him
>nibble the corners and pull the string, so to speak. guess
>it's good to know you don't jump ship easily ... which makes
>sense as a twins fan.

You're right. I think I may have seen Kevin Slowey with identifiable breaking stuff, but the elite command either vanished or I made the fundamental error of player comps - they're not always helpful.

If that wishcasting had come true, we'd have somebody whose fastball would play up even without plus-average velocity but who could actually finish somebody with a curve or a changeup. That's not a Brad Radke clone. That's Brad Radke, somebody who has really taken some hits with the (still appropriately named) Clone Army even though he was more valuable in his career than, I'd guess, every member of the BRCA put together.

He's still young. Only 24. But there's a wave coming up behind him (I hope) and he's not going to get infinite chances.

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54. "RE: 4/8-4/10 at Royals, probables, pick'ems"
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>Correia strikeouts vs. Santana walks
>Mauer strikeouts vs. Morneau walks
Walks
>Pelfrey GIDP to Twins game two GIDP
Game two
>Twins wins vs. Royals wins
TWINS
>Eduardo Escobar starts vs. Jamie Carroll starts
Carroll
>Twins stolen bases vs. Twins homers
DINGERS
>Billy Butler doubles vs. Brian Dozier hits
Butler

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56. "Isn't "It's Kevin Correia" enough reason to pull Kevin Correia?"
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I object to using pitch count to evaluate Kevin Correia's readiness to continue a game. Every pitch that he throws is one pitch closer to people in the outfield seats being injured with well-struck baseballs, so if you get seven shutout innings out of him and you, further, are intentionally hamstringing your bench by carrying 12 pitchers then it's time to bring in somebody who isn't Kevin Correia. And then to thank fates that the game is still winnable.

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57. "I'm going to complain about the early scheduling"
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I mean, losing two of three to the Royals is kind of a sign of the times anyhow, but we sort of got wanged by this Sunday in Baltimore to Monday day game in Kansas City schedule. Of course, we also invited said wanging by not employing enough good baseball players - but one complaint at a time.

In other news, Miguel Sano hit a homerun. So now the Florida State League knows what's up.

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58. "Trevor May: comfortable with strikeouts"
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4 IP, 2 ER, 3 BB, and 7 K yesterday. I'm not checking the box score, but I'm guessing he threw more than a few pitches to get that four inning hook. Still, a skillset we don't have a lot of above A-ball.

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59. "Miguel Sano is making up some ground"
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The first week of the season was a pretty strange one for our man Miguel Mejor. No homeruns and only a strikeout or two. Weird.

Since then, he's been becoming who he is: absurd power with some swing and miss. Two homers and six strikeouts in the past three games has him at .393/.452/.714. We'd all love to see him put the barrel on the ball in a way that looks like somebody who can give you a consistent .260-.270 in the big leagues, and scouts see it in his swing. But until that happens, at least he isn't going backwards. Hitting the ball out of the park in the Florida State League isn't common, but he seems... untroubled by the idea.

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60. "Funny Bert Blyleven story from THT"
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Every time I hear Bert call a pitcher a pussy for leaving after 100 pitches I'm going to remember that he once charged the mound with a bat after brushing back Mike Schmidt twice.




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Posted by Chris Jaffe
In a recent broadcast, Twins color man Bert Blyleven commented on the recent dust-up between Zack Greinkeand Carlos Quentin. (Grienke hit Quentin with a pitch, Quentin ignored that fact that it was likely an accidental HBP, charged the mound and in the melee the highly paid pitcher broke his collarbone).

Anyhow, Blyleven noted that in his ba-zillion years pitching, no one ever charged the mound on him. He did, however, once charge the mound himself after getting hit by a pitch.

Let’s look this up.

Blyleven was hit by a pitch just twice in his career, so this is fairly easy to check up. As it happens, he was ejected in neither game, which is unexpected. However, the wonder and glory that is Retrosheet helps fill us in on the details. Its recaps don’t simply record what the plays were, but what incidental drama also happened.

It was May 26, 1980 and Blyleven’s defending world champion Pirates were playing the Phillies.

The fun began in the bottom of the first. With two out and none on, Blyleven threw a brush-back pitch to Phillies star Mike Schmidt. He didn’t hit Schmidt, but ended up walking him. Then up came Greg Luzinski, who also walked after surviving a brush-back. Blyleven escaped his self-created jam without allowing any runs, and the game went on.

Schmidt came back to the plate to lead off the third. Again, Blyleven brushed him back. Schmidt had had enough of this, and took a few steps to the mound. He didn’t go much further, but both benches cleared. Things cooled down, and no punches were thrown. Blyleven ended up walking Schmidt (again) and Schmidt scored on a homer by teammate Garry Maddox.

Shortly after, Blyleven came up to bat to lead off the fourth for Pittsburgh. Nothing happened though; he just grounded out. But the game wasn’t over.

In the fifth, the Phillies had a new pitcher in, reliever Kevin Saucier. He got some payback for the club, hitting Pirates star slugger Willie Stargell.

Next inning, Blyleven came up again. With two out and none on, Saucier plunked him. That’s when Blyleven charged the mound. It’s odd that the pitcher who started it would be the one to charge, but I guess he felt the matter was over once Stargell was hit. However, according to the Retrosheet account, he did a bit more than just charge the mound—he picked up the bat and charged the mound. Yikes!

A big brawl broke out with both benches cleared. After a while, the fight appeared to have stopped, butr it caught fire again with Phillies bullpen coach Mike Ryan in the middle. The umpires eventually restored order.

Somehow, Blyleven wasn’t ejected. For that matter, neither was Ryan. Instead, Pittsburgh outfielder Lee Lacy and Philadelphia coach Herm Starrette got the thumb from Hall of Fame umpire Doug Harvey.

The game kept on, with Blyleven lasting until the eighth inning. The Phillies rallied to win on a walk-off single by Larry Bowa in the ninth.

So why did Blyleven go after Schmidt like that? It was the first Phillies-Pirates game of the year, so there was nothing that happened recently between the clubs. Schmidt did a good job against Blyleven over their careers, but there was nothing in their immediate past that would suggest this.

However, the last Phillies-Pirates game of 1979 had a very odd twist. On Sept. 20, 1979, Phillies outfielder Keith Moreland hit a fly to left that third base umpire Eric Gregg lost in the lights. He saw the Philadelphia Ball Girl jump up and down saying “home run!” so he ruled it a home run.

But it wasn’t a homer. It wasn’t even close to a homer. The Pirates raised all holy hell about it, and the umpire crew had a conference and in a rarity, decided to overturn the call.

Now it was Philadelphia’s turn to spit nails. Manager Dallas Green argued the call, earned an ejection, and threw some equipment on the field. Also throwing equipment on the field was star third baseman Mike Schmidt—the same guy Blyleven threw inside to next time they faced. So that must be the back story.

The umpire in that 1979 game was Doug Harvey, the same man who refrained from ejecting Blyleven in 1980. I’m not sure if that helps explain why Blyleven wasn’t ejected, but it is interesting.

So Blyleven’s memory holds up well about his career as a mound charger.

  

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63. "This story kind of has everything."
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Retro-active umpiring karma conspiracy. Hall of Famers. Perfect.

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61. "Twins: Filling up your Friday hotsheet"
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I can't remember the last time three Twins made the hotsheet. I like Arcia up top among the Twins. I've been guilty of ignoring him amidst the shiny new toys, but he is... really good. Tyler Duffey is this week's entry in "Helium Report" too.

3. Oswaldo Arcia rf, Twins

Oswaldo Arcia
Team: Triple-A Rochester (International)

Why He’s Here: .458/.536/.917 (11-for-24), 3 HR, 2 2B, 8 RBIs, 8 R, 3 BB, 6 SO, 1-for-1 SB

The Scoop: Aaron Hicks’ rise to the big leagues wasn’t the only instance where the usually conservative Twins went against type with where they assigned a player. Arcia was dispatched to Triple-A with just a half-season of Double-A experience under his belt, an aggressive move by Twins standards. He’s rewarded the organization’s faith so far, though. A powerful lefthanded swinger, Arcia homered in each of Rochester’s first two games and added a third Thursday night, and he also mixed in a couple of three-hit games along the way as well.

4. Byron Buxton cf, Twins

Team: low Class A Cedar Rapids (Midwest)

Age: 19

Why He’s Here: .500/.565/.950 (10-for-20), 6 R, 1 2B, 1 3B, 2 HR, 6 RBIs, 3 BB, 5 Ks, 2-for-2 SBs

The Scoop: It’s been a rough couple of years for Twins’ fans. But for the first time in a while, there are signs of hope on the horizon—just take a look at the three premium prospects the club has on this week’s Hot Sheet. It’s only one week of stats, but Buxton’s fast start is a great sign for a prospect who has an overabundance of tools.

8. Miguel Sano 3b, Twins

Team: high Class A Fort Myers (Florida State)

Age: 19

Why He’s Here: .393/.452/.714 (11-for-28), 6 R, 3 2B, 2 HR, 4 RBIs, 3 BB, 8 Ks

The Scoop: Picking the top prospect in the Twins organization isn’t easy. On one hand you have a potential five-tool outfielder (Buxton). On the other, you have an infielder with a cannon of an arm and some of the best raw power in the minors. Sano’s hit tool likely will never be as refined as Buxton’s, but if he can keep the strikeouts to a moderate level to allow his power to play, the rest of his skills and tools will take care of the rest.

Tyler Duffey, rhp, low Class A Cedar Rapids (Twins): Minnesota drafted a raft of college relievers in 2012—righties Luke Bard, J.T. Chargois, Zach Jones and Tyler Duffey and lefthander Mason Melotakis among them—and gave them all the option to start as pros. The 6-foot-3, 225-pound Duffey was among those who accepted the offer, with the Twins hoping he’d maintain his above-average quality low-90s fastball and hard breaking ball (alternately described as a curve and slider) over longer outings. Mission accomplished in his first pro start Sunday night—Duffey tossed seven perfect innings and struck out seven before leaving the game due to a pitch count. He dedicated the performance to his late mother, who died in 2012 at age 44.

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62. "Oswaldo Arcia, Minnesota Twin"
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Wilkin Ramirez is going on paternity leave for a few days. Oswaldo Arcia is getting a taste of the big leagues while he's away, according to Phil Miller. He's not really got an opening in front of him since Wilkin is a 4th outfielder, but Arcia's not coming up to sit on the bench. Let's see how fast the "new level learning curve" is this time around for him.

It's no guarantee, obviously, given the amount of things that could go wrong. But I haven't been as confident that a Twins prospect will hit as a bigleaguer in awhile. He just seems to adapt to new challenges with freakish speed.

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67. "i didn't watch the game"
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but the box score is kind of fun:
1/3 on 6 pitches with an error.

he also crushed a ball to the track off an angels prospect who hasn't been in the minors more than a year.

does he know how to work a count?

otherwise, good for him. must be nice to see the guy batting .047 come in for him. poor aaron.

EDIT: annnnnnddddd ... already sent back down. would have thought he'd stick around for the rest of the angels series. whatever.

  

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68. "RE: i didn't watch the game"
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>does he know how to work a count?

He wants to hit, but he made big strides in his walk rate last year. I think he'll always be an aggressive hitter but is totally comfortable taking a walk if it's not there. Jason Kubel is the most common comp, but estimations of Arcia's hit tool and power keep rising, particularly the latter.

His rate of improvement is the most interesting thing about him to me. He needed to strikeout less and walk more last year in AA and he did.

edit: if you want to dream on him, Justin Morneau might be a better comp in terms of average/power together and an ability to be aggressive and still work a walk. But Kubel's body is a match. Arcia is like a perfect square.

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64. "Ugh. Do we have to talk about the big club this week?"
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Miguel Mejor went 3-4 with a homerun last week. After our brief wonderment at the lack of homers, he's hit three in about five games. Still too many strikeouts and he hasn't really started walking yet, but since nobody is getting him out when he puts the ball in play we'll have to be patient on that last one.

He's at .400/.440/.725 right now, and Doug Mientkiewicz's Ft. Myers Miracle are at 10-0. I don't usually care about that, but you don't give famous and tenured former Twins jobs in the Twins organization without the willingness to consider them for future jobs, so getting the Miracle winning and winning often is an interesting development for this management prospect. That's a stacked roster for position players as soon as Sano and Rosario were assigned there, but most of the interesting arms are in the bullpen so it's not like it's a 25-man group of prospects ready to bust out.

Other notable Miracle developments:

-Big-fastball-owner Zach Jones has faced twenty one batters. Three have reached. None have scored. Seven have struck out.

-Eddie Rosario is hitting .372/.391/.558. He also hasn't committed an error and has helped turn six double plays. I think he's a real sleeper on leaguewide top-100 lists next year, because that power isn't just vanishing like some folks expected. Rather, he's looking more like a Brian Roberts 40 doubles and 15 homers type.

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65. "what did you think of Pigpen (Matt Harvey)?"
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*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

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66. "Blessedly, I was working when he pitched"
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Obviously, he's good.

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69. "Mauer has been... pretty good lately"
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Is it just a factor of rooting for a team where I can't experientially accept the stability of a great player's talent? I understand that progress and decline are weird things, both slower and faster than we think they should be. But I've never seen a truly great Twin where minor, temporary changes for the worse in their game didn't make me think that they were irretrievably broken. Remember when Santana used to always have terrible Aprils? Every new one meant that this was the year he stopped being incredible, as far as my worry went. Then came 2011 with Mauer's injuries. And early this season with his weird rash of strikeouts.

But if Joe Randa decided to come back, I'd probably assume he'd remain a nigh-All Star.

Anyhow, Mauer's looked like Mauer lately. It's a long year and old knees and etc. but it's been fun. Watching him hit is kind of amazing.


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71. "It was easy to forget just how good of a hitter he can be"
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Do you think the 09 power's ever coming back, though?

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72. "Not in this park"
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They became doubles when he bumped all the way up to 43 of those in the new park. The signature Mauer homerun (if somebody who struggles to hit a dozen in a year can be seen as possessing a signature homer) is a liner that carries into the first ten rows of the left or left-center wall. Hitters are starting to figure out how to take it out of the yard in Target Field, but it remains a really difficult place for left-handed hitters to hit opposite field shots. I'm actually pretty comfortable contending that Mauer's 2010 and 2012 were closer than they looked to his 2009 just on the basis of well-struck extra base hits. It's just that they're banging off of Target Field's walls where they went out of the Dome.

The one caveat, I think, is that I have a minor suspicion that his higher strikeout rate in the early going comes from an attempt to turn on more high fastballs. I trust him to make adjustments more than almost any hitter I've seen, but that's almost because I trust him to return to work-the-left-center-gap Mauer pretty quickly if it's not working.

But if he finds a happy medium, we could see him yanking more balls over the RF wall and he could scrape 15-20 homers. Kind of depends on if he wants to given the cost of fewer balls in play.

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70. "Nice day for prospect-watchers"
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1. Sano: 2-3, HR (a grand slam), BB - .413/.472/.761 on the season
2. Buxton: 3-4, 2B - .474/.556/.737, 4 SB
3. Gibson: 6 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 5 K, 9:1 GB:FB
4. Trevor May: 5.1 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 4 BB, 8 K
5. Oswaldo Arcia: re-recalled to Minneapolis for DL'd Darin Mastroianni
6. The Miracle won their 12th straight
7. Eddie Rosario got two hits like he does almost every night and still only ranks as the seventh most interesting thing to happen yesterday in the system. He's at .388/.407/.551.

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73. "can you tell me what a 'stress reaction' is? "
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because it sounds like PTSD to me.

all those pieces of info are great.

at what point do the twins realize that hicks probably should not have skipped a level?

  

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74. "I think it's just a usage injury that risks becoming chronic"
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>because it sounds like PTSD to me.

Hicks is probably the only candidate on the team for that right now.

>at what point do the twins realize that hicks probably should
>not have skipped a level?

They probably realize it already, but believe there's some value (particularly for a team that isn't expected to be good anyhow) in making it seem like tacit policy for players who win a job out of spring training to hold that job for at least 4-6 weeks. I suspect they also like to be able to send Hicks to Rochester with more specific instructions than "stop sucking so much."

But yeah, he was rushed. Apparently nobody has struck out this many times through the first ten games of their career ever or something? They're hemmed into a bit of a corner right now with Mastroianni injured, Benson hitting nearly as poorly as Hicks only doing it in Rochester, and Wilkin Ramirez not really a centerfielder.

I think dropping him in the order was smart and might kickstart him in the way that putting him at leadoff did in New Britain last year - it'll simplify his process. The toughest thing to watch about him so far was seeing him do things that, even at his occasional MiLB low points were never part of his game, like swinging at fastballs outside the strikezone. With no real CF options besides him right now, he can get the Rochester treatment just by virtue of low expectations: take better at-bats; be yourself and work the count.

Whatever his problem, I'd rather be him and pathological opportunity-misser Joe Benson right now. .171/.216/.200 and striking out almost as often as Hicks.

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75. "The Sano bit is especially huge"
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I think that high-A is the point where the Twins begin to seriously consider promoting extraordinary players more aggressively. They're still the Twins, so they'll wait to see how Sano adjusts to the adjustments. But if he's still hurting pitcher's feelings by Memorial Day, then he could spend a substantial portion of the 2013 season at New Britain.

That domino could mean a 40-man add, particularly if we start selling off big-league parts like Morneau and Willingham and any rental starting pitcher that isn't sucking.

And the 40-man domino would mean that he could be a Trevor Plouffe calf strain away from a big club debut.

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76. "Some high-quality Sano video"
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It's just of him dunking a couple of singles in the major league spring training games he appeared in, but it's still pretty cool.

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130416&content_id=44961500&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb&sid=milb

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77. "jeebus ... i forget how BIG he is ... FUN!"
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also, they couldn't get anything other than a couple of singles for the guy with the best power tool in all the minors? nomc.

  

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78. "Once he hits AA, we'll get more abundant video choices"
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I was pretty annoyed at that too, but I think their selection criteria was "highest quality footage". A spring training appearance against the real, live Yankees is probably as good as it gets in that regard.

Still, I have a hard time believing that there isn't something at least 70% as visually appealing that where he hits a 500 foot homer. That's how you drive home a point. So, I'm with you here.

But hopefully it wont matter before long. My general impression is that games are more likely to be locally televised the higher the level. There was cool video of a New Britain walkoff last year, punctuated by Oswaldo Arcia's insouciant bat-flip. I want that with Sano. Soon.

edit: and he is indeed a human giant. he looks fit right now. just... huge.

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79. "twinsinbridgeportagainstsox419thru421probablesandpickems"
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Worley vs. Peavy
Diamond vs. Floyd
Correia vs. Axelrod

Three righties. That's a nice start for our bats, in theory. Past that, who really wants to prognosticate what these starters are going to do beyond some pick'ems?

Twins wins vs. White Sox wins
Diamond strikeouts vs. Mauer strikeouts
Morneau homers vs. Plouffe homers
Hicks outs vs. Twins game one total bases
Perkins strikeouts vs. Twins starter strikeouts

Give me: Twins, Diamond, Morneau, Twins, starters

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80. "if comiskey or whatever they call it doesn't fall into a hole ... "
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>Twins wins vs. White Sox wins
sox

>Diamond strikeouts vs. Mauer strikeouts
diamond

>Morneau homers vs. Plouffe homers
morneau

>Hicks outs vs. Twins game one total bases
this is just ... diabolical. total bases ... because ... shit.

>Perkins strikeouts vs. Twins starter strikeouts
perkins

  

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81. "Oh right, the flooding"
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I got six "emergency" texts from University of Chicago campus police yesterday, which was a weird reminder that I am still a student.

I'd rather like to see a nice Vance Worley start, since I spent the months preceding the season convincing myself to like THE MOST EQUAL VANIMAL. Or whatever. Alex Meyer has allowed three earned runs in about twenty innings this year, so that'll work as far as edifying box score reading.

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82. "Two of three with real pitching performances?"
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Ugh. This team is going to draw me in with the first decent April in what seems like forever. In fairness, I was a lost cause anyhow.

Relatedly, here's a story about Miguel Sano being kind of a badass and getting thrown out of a game along with Doug Mientkiewicz and DJ Baxendale. I like that our prospects also come with some "fuck you" in their game.

http://www.twinkietown.com/2013/4/21/4250738/miguel-sano-homers-after-message-pitch

Maybe I'm dramatizing this a little bit. I wasn't there. I haven't seen the tape. But whatever the intention may or may not have been, the result was awesome. Here's what happened.

With two outs in the top of the fifth, the Fort Myers Miracle were trailing the Palm Beach Cardinals 5-3. Cardinals pitcher Brandon Creath threw a pitch that appeared to be meant for Miguel Sano's body. According to Brice Zimmerman, play-by-play announcer for the Miracle, it looked like it was actually headed for Sano's head.

Sometimes baseballs get away from pitchers. Especially minor league pitchers. And for a guy who is walking 5.1 batters per nine innings this season, it's not like a lack of command is unexpected. So maybe he was throwing at Sano, and maybe he wasn't.

But Sano took exception. From Brice Zimmerman's Twitter account:

Brice Zimmerman @ZimMiracle

Creath's first pitch to Sano was at his head, but missed behind him. Sano then launched a 450-ft plus HR on a 3-1 pitch.
4:46 PM - 21 Apr 2013

Brice Zimmerman @ZimMiracle

Mientkiewicz wanted Creath tossed for throwing at Sano, but HP ump just warned him and both dugouts.
4:46 PM - 21 Apr 2013

Brice Zimmerman @ZimMiracle

Sano admired his HR, then turned to the Palm Beach dugout and pumped his fists, was tossed, Mientkiewicz and Baxendale tossed too.
4:47 PM - 21 Apr 2013


Sano felt he was being thrown at. Clearly manager Doug Mientkiewicz (I still don't have to look up how to spell that name) thought Creath had done it on purpose. So did D.J. Baxendale.

Usually I'm not a fan of players showing someone else up. I love seeing passion in our players, and I love that Sano punished Creath in the best way possible by launching a massive home run, but sportsmanship matters to me. So I also have no problem with Sano getting tossed for making so blatant a gesture.

Whatever Creath's actual intent, however events actually played out in terms of Sano's gesture and Mientkiewicz's belief of intent, two things are certain. Sano thought Creath was throwing at him, and Sano took him yard.

Awesome.

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83. "BPro Ten Pack with Sano and Buxton"
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Fun Fun. There was a question in the hot sheet chat on Friday about whether these two could be the 1/2 prospects in baseball next winter. The chatter (Callis?) did not treat it like a stupid suggestion.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=20311

Miguel Sano, 3B, Twins (High A Fort Myers)
Independent of Sano’s impressive .377/.443/.705 line, with five bombs in 16 games, the word that keeps coming up when talking about the 19-year-old third baseman is “improvement.” There was a different look to Sano in the box during spring training than when I last saw the prospect at Instructs, and scouts have also commented about that difference. The slugger has been making strides picking up the spin out of opposing pitchers’ hands, which has shown in his body language at the plate and in a smoother weight transfer. Sano has been less apt to commit early onto his front foot in the early going, allowing the powerful right-handed batter to sit back and explode through pitches to create more consistent hard contact.

This can be a leading indicator pointing toward growth with Sano’s hit tool. My main question after seeing him in the fall was how exactly it was going to translate against more advanced competition. The big test will come when Sano eventually makes the jump to the Eastern League, but the early look and subsequent chatter from evaluators lend positive signs that progress is being made. —Chris Mellen

Byron Buxton, OF, Twins (Low-A Cedar Rapids):
It is tough to imagine a better start to the 2013 season for the Twins’ top prospect than we’ve seen. Further, as tough as it is to believe, Buxton’s gaudy stats (a .415/.523/.642 slash line) don’t fully capture his performance. He was often guilty of expanding the zone during his stint in short-season ball last summer, split between the complex league and Appy League. It has been a whole new Buxton in the Midwest League. The talented center fielder has upped his aggressiveness early in the count, punishing early count fastballs. He will still struggle to properly identify quality secondaries, but until the league adjusts and starts feeding him off-speed early on it isn’t going to be an issue. Buxton is also giving away fewer at bats; even when down in the count he has been able to shorten up and get the ball in play, rather than checking out mentally, flailing at a two-strike pitch out of the zone, and looking ahead to the next at-bat. Defensively, he remains a similar player to the physically gifted but underdeveloped talent we saw last summer – great speed but indirect routes and periodic misplaced first steps off the bat. Likewise, there remains big upside but a lot of work to be done on the bases, with Buxton’s struggles with jumps a clear indicator of his limited exposure to more advanced pitchers and their ability to disrupt baserunners’ timing. While the holes in his game remain evident, the fact that Buxton is so clearly undeveloped in so many aspects of his game actually makes his torrid start that much more impressive. While the future holds potential pitfalls aplenty, it’s hard to look at the returns from these first two-plus weeks and not think this could be a very, very loud summer for the second overall pick in last year’s draft. —Nick Faleris

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84. "miguel mejor: i find your pitching ... cute. "
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another game, another HR.

also, a two hit perforamance without a SO.

http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=3B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=593934

is AA where he goes to learn how to walk? because obviously high-A ain't got shit for him to "learn" if he's mashing for yuks.

  

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85. "Basically"
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>is AA where he goes to learn how to walk? because obviously
>high-A ain't got shit for him to "learn" if he's mashing for
>yuks.

His walk rate last year proved he's willing to wait for his pitch, but if he's hitting nearly .530 on contact (with power) then nobody's going to tell him to be more selective. So I think you've got the right development plan, if one that the Twins will wait for a bounceback to execute. He needs somebody to actually get him out before drawing a walk becomes important. If that's at New Britain, even better.

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86. "i'm just going to congregate here for MEJOR news"
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because going 2-5 with triple and a stolen base when your 7-3 and 436 pounds is damn-hell-ass-awesome!

wish i was near ft. myers at some point this summer. that looks to be a very fun team to watch.

  

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87. "He might not be there much into the summer"
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BA was making some noises in the recent hotsheet chat about how even the Twins wouldn't leave him down there to murder the Florida State League for long. I haven't read any scouting reports on his defense, but Mientkiewicz isn't going to let shitty work with the glove slide and the error totals are way down.

Eddie Rosario is heating up too. Sano is too exciting for the Twins to force some kind of paired ascension, but I still rather love the idea of them promoted together as long as they're both playing well. At .351/.381/.546, it's pretty crazy that he's in Mejor's shadow, but it actually makes sense.

This is actually causing a weird thread tension. There are a ton of exciting prospects on the farm playing really, really well. But the big club is actually winning once and awhile.

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88. "So you're saying a road trip to New Britain, CT may be necesarry?"
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According to Wikipedia, it's a nice place to pick up Christmas ornaments carved chess sets, so it's really a win-win even if Miguel isn't up there.

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90. "I think the christmas ornament thing is almost reason enough"
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So, yes.

I'm hoping he keeps hitting and gets promoted before the summer. New Britain comes down here to play Bowie once or twice a year and that'd be way easier than going to Connecticut.

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89. "MEJOR made his third hotsheet appearance on Friday"
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Fun fact: Byron Buxton has walked more than he's struck out so far this year. While pretty much all of pro baseball is tending towards three true outcomes, it's interesting seeing a young player who was noted for being extremely raw put together a decent contact rate whilst also taking a bunch of pitches. It's against the current wave, and it's great considering his speed.

"3. Miguel Sano, 3b, Twins

The Scoop: With a peak Hot Sheet chart position of No. 1 (last week) and two other top-10 finishes (including No. 3 this week), Sano is the top hitmaker in the minors. His eight-hit, three-homer week bumped his season batting line to .377/.430/.753 through 77 at-bats, and he now owns at least a share of the Florida State League lead for home runs (eight), RBIs (20), runs (17), slugging and extra-base hits (13). Oh, and despite being a teenager in a pitcher’s league, Sano is tied with Max Muncy (Athletics) and Scott Van Slyke (Dodgers) for most home runs in the minors."

Lots of Twins in the chat too:

"Ben (Iowa): Who has a higher ceiling? JO Berrios or Alex Meyer?

Ben Badler: Meyer. The combination of velocity, life and angle on his fastball is filthy, and his slider has a chance to be a 70 pitch. Pitchers with Meyer's size need to be given a little more time for their control to come around, and if he just has 50/55 major league command, you're talking about a frontline starter."

"Miguel Sano (Ft. Meyers): What the hell am I do here and when will I be promoted up to New Britain?

Ben Badler: The Twins are usually on the conservative end of promotions, although with Aaron Hicks and Oswaldo Arcia maybe that's changing. But with Sano, yeah, I don't see him spending too much more time abusing FSL pitchers."

"Steve (SHS) (Sioux Falls): Byron Buxton has been impressive no doubt in SSS so far. To be fair, is it more impressive that he boasts a 13/12 BB:K ratio or that he may force the Twins hand to promote him to the Florida State Lg. before the season is mid-way through.?

Ben Badler: How about we just say that everything Buxton has done so far has been impressive. He's got bat speed, he can hit, he recognizes pitches, he's a 70 runner, plays good defense in center field and I think he's got the chance to end up with 50 or better raw power, maybe even a 25-homer season because of his contact frequency, bat speed and physical projection. This guy is a monster."

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91. "Is it possible that we don't suck?"
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We've got the Pythag of a roughly .500 team with 88 runs scored and 89 runs against. Morneau hasn't really hit yet and the Aaron Hicks experiment has been a mess. So the offense really should pick up from those 4-and-small-change runs a game. At least I'd hope.

The starting pitching has been extremely lucky. There's no two ways about that. I haven't had a complaint about Kevin Correia in weeks and, truthfully, even if he pitches as badly as I expect for every start of the season - this is 36 better consecutive innings than I expected to get out of him at any stretch. Even if it is just balls finding gloves.

Additionally, the rotation could actually improve when Gibson gets a call. So there's reason to think that whatever the Twins are right now - Suck, not suck, maybe possibly not suck - that they could actually get better. I hate that this just occurred to me because I really had settled into a nice little synthesis for understanding the season. Talk about Mauer and hope for another season that is markable on his HOF-peak argument. Talk about Morneau and the hope that he'll resume his decent career. Look for trades of the highly paid talent. Complain about the rotation. Finish off with a nice round of "look what Miguel Mejor just did!". Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

Now I have no idea what to do.

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92. "yeah, i meant to reply to your aside about about thread tension"
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>Additionally, the rotation could actually improve when Gibson
>gets a call. So there's reason to think that whatever the
>Twins are right now - Suck, not suck, maybe possibly not suck
>- that they could actually get better. I hate that this just
>occurred to me because I really had settled into a nice little
>synthesis for understanding the season. Talk about Mauer and
>hope for another season that is markable on his HOF-peak
>argument. Talk about Morneau and the hope that he'll resume
>his decent career. Look for trades of the highly paid talent.
>Complain about the rotation. Finish off with a nice round of
>"look what Miguel Mejor just did!". Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

but you've summed up my approach to the year very nicely here. basically, i was going to pay some attention to the big club until they started the slide to suck, at which point my 75/25% split on minor league prospects would increase to 90/10%. the intial 5-6 game losing streak accelerated this process, but they have been plucky of late despite the hicks mess. like you, the starting pitching has been ... surprising. i haven't been able to watch any of the games, so ... yeah. this is all confusing. but i will continue to not pay attention because they seem to prefer our relationship that way.

i just wish hicks would be the same. he seems kind of needy in that way.

>Now I have no idea what to do.

exactly.

  

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93. "He's been less of a disaster since they bumped him in the order"
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.240/.394/.280 in the past two weeks. It's not good, but that OBA is a big, useful number. I think there's light at the end of this tunnel which doesn't necessarily require a trip to Rochester.

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94. "Well, that sucked... how about some farm/draft stuff?"
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There's going to be plenty of ups and downs, but April was a really, really good month for the system. Moving through BA's top ten, the only disappointing performance has been Hicks' after an aggressive promotion straight to MLB. Bard is being stretched into a starter in extended spring and Kepler is dealing with an elbow injury. But past that, the only surprises are good. Sano, Rosario, and Arcia have raked - with the latter being promoted. Daniel Santana hasn't looked overwhelmed with a AA promotion. Kyle Gibson has shown the same improved velocity that he did in the AFL and is ironing out his command - the last thing to return after the long TJ layoff. Byron Buxton has, incredibly, surpassed expectations in the early goings.

And Jose Berrios made his second start in the MWL yesterday and looked like the Jose Berrios we giddily remember from last year. He went 6.2 innings, permitted just one run on a pair of hits, and struck out eight. His fastball apparently sat 92-94 and peaked at 95.

So, with some of the extended spring guys (interesting pen candidate Josh Burris also debut'd at Cedar Rapids) starting to show up, it may be time to start chatting about system depth a bit. Because there are some lesser-discussed guys doing sexy stuff too. Here's some names, some you may have known but bracketed away with Sano fever:

1. Adam Walker - think of him as the poor man's Miguel Sano. A corner-only outfielder with even more swing-and-miss, he also has power that actually could maybe be mentioned in the same breath as Sano's. Lately he hasn't been missing and is .357/.426/.833. In spite of being drafted out of college, he is regarded as extremely raw and will be moved slowly, but a stronger than expected contact rate in low-A is a good sign that he'll put the barrel on the ball enough for us to keep watching him. An absolute upside for a player like this is Josh Willingham, but if he doesn't achieve that there seems to be a growing league-wide need for big RH pop - so he can profile as a useful extra outfielder even without playing center or hitting lefty.

2. Joe Benson - we all know Benson, chronic opportunity-fumbler. He's still crazy toolsy but has been hitting the ball hard after a Hicks-ian start at Rochester. Still a 27:4 K:BB rate though.

3. D.J. Baxendale - part of the rush on senior college pitchers from the 2012 draft, he's at Ft. Myers already and is pitching well, with a 1.54 ERA and 20 strikeouts in 23 innings. The additional good news is that he actually throws kind of hard. Not Alex Meyer hard, but he'll sit low-to-mid-90s into starts so there's reason to think he's not just dominating less experienced players and the results could stick. He could be a solid 4th starter.

4. Jorge Polanco - twinned as a Dominican signee with Miguel Sano, he's been passed by both Sano and Kepler in reputation, but the bat is starting to come around. He doesn't walk enough, but he's a tough out and is starting to show power in cold ass Iowa. Hitting .353/.385/.506. Middle infield depth is an excellent, excellent thing.

5. Levi Michael - Remember him? He's back in Ft. Myers, allegedly healthy, and hitting .200 with all of his his going for extra bases. His stock has sunk since he was drafted, but injuries keep providing ambiguity - the chance we aren't seeing the real Levi Michael.

I promised draft stuff, but I really don't have much. The front two names are starting to solidify. Mark Appel has convinced scouts that he has refined his fastball command and his changeup enough that he has genuine #1 upside and wont get squared up in MLB Jeremy Guthrie-style. And Jonathan Gray is throwing 100mph for Oklahoma and striking out everybody. The bad news is that those guys are probably going 1/2 unless one of the prep outfielders Meadows or Frazier really distinguishes themselves. A lot of Twins fans are nervous that the Twins are in on Meadows/Frazier, which would add yet another "toolsy outfielder" to a system full of them. That... isn't a stupid worry, but requires the following notes:

1. The Twins needed pitching even more last summer, but Byron Buxton has so far shown why the Twins may have seen him as something different than just a toolsy outfielder type. His performance so far is why you draft best player available.

2. Opinion ranges from negative to mixed on whether Meadows or Frazier can play centerfield as pros. It seems worth pointing out that "toolsy outfielder" to the Twins has meant "guys who profile as strong defensive centerfielders" in the first round. The Twins would have to either believe one of those two (i read they have a preference for Austin Meadows of the two) is a genuine plus defensive centerfielder, which would put them outside the full range of conventional wisdom *or* be so in love with the bat that they scrap the more detailed version of their usual preferences. I'd be surprised if this happens.

That leaves some strong pitchers, but guys with a bit more questions than Appel/Gray. Sean Manaea has been up and down this year, but he's a lefty who hits the high nineties, holds his velocity into starts, and holds the chance that being in a cold weather school means we haven't seen his best. Braden Shipley is the new pop-up candidate, Kyle Zimmer-lite. Keith Law tagged a plus fastball and a plus changeup. Twins will really like the latter. He also saw above-average current curveball that needs more use. The cool thing, which the Twins also like, is that he's a really good athlete, expressed in his delivery, but also has a good power pitcher's body at 6'3". He seems to fit the Twins preferences a bit more clearly than Manaea.

Prep righty Kohl Stewart, Arkansas righty Ryne Stanek, and Jacksonville State (which we know the Twins scout with an affirming eye due to the aforementioned Adam Walker) righty Chris Anderson are also candidates.

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95. "BA: Twins have 1/2 top minorleague teams in April"
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Come for the usual raves on Miguel Mejor's bat, stay for the notes about his improving defense.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/led-by-miguel-sano-fort-myers-miracle-are-minors-top-team-in-april/

Led By Miguel Sano, Fort Myers Stands As April’s Top Team
May 1, 2013 by J.J. Cooper

No minor league team had a better April than the Fort Myers Miracle.

It’s a pretty easy claim to make. The Miracle finished April with the best record in the minors, 21-4. They are third in the minors in run differential (+50) and fifth in runs scored despite playing in the high Class A Florida State League, where runs are scarce. As you would expect, the four teams ranked above them are all clubs that play either in the California or Pacific Coast leagues, far and away the two highest-scoring leagues in the minors.

And the Miracle have done it behind the hitting of one of the top prospects in the game, third baseman Miguel Sano. The 19-year-old leads all of minor league baseball with nine home runs. In itself, that isn’t all that surprising. Sano threatened the Appalachian League home run record when he launched 20 for Elizabethton in 2011. Last year, he led the Midwest League with 28 for Beloit.

But what Sano is doing in Fort Myers is nearly unprecedented for an FSL hitter because of how difficult it is to hit home runs in the spacious parks and ever-present humidity. He has more home runs than one FSL team (Dunedin) and has equaled another (Jupiter). While the modern single-season home run record for every other full-season league is 40 or more, Jim Fuller’s 33 home runs in 1971 is still the FSL standard. If Sano can come close to equaling his April rate, he ought to challenge that mark.

As good as Sano has been offensively, he’s also making strides defensively. Fort Myers manager Doug Mientkiewicz and Twins infield coordinator Paul Molitor have worked to get Sano to set up a few steps farther back at third base. By playing deeper, Sano is getting eaten up by in-between hops less often, while his double-plus arm gives him a little extra time to get to a ball and still make a timely throw.

Sano has gotten plenty of help. Second baseman Eddie Rosario is hitting for average and power (.346/.386/.583). The catcher combination of Kyle Knudson (.400/.481/.578) and Matt Koch (.364/.453/.473) has been equally impressive.

“The reason they are off to good start is they have players who are there to win,” Twins farm director Brad Steil said. “They’re playing together and they never think they are out of the game. They’ve had guys getting on base at the top of the lineup, and Rosario and Sano have done a good job of getting them in.”

The Fantastic Five

It’s been a great first month for the Twins. While the big league club has been a better than expected 11-12, it’s in the minors that Minnesota has had plenty to celebrate. Not only does it have the winningest team in the minors in April, they also have the No. 2 club in the low Class A Cedar Rapids (18-5).

And if Sano’s nine home-run April has caught the eye of scouts, then top prospect outfielder Byron Buxton has been arguably even more impressive in his full-season debut. Playing for Cedar Rapids, Buxton leads the Midwest League with a 1.194 OPS thanks to his .392/.510/.684 line that includes four home runs, nine steals and more walks (19) than strikeouts (17).

Here’s a look at the five winningest teams in April, along with each team’s top prospects.

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96. "Hartford Courant: Alex Meyer throws weird pitches really hard"
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This is pretty cool. Callis at BA fielded a question in the chat yesterday indicating that he wouldn't be shocked to see Meyer debut this year.

http://www.courant.com/sports/baseball/hc-rock-cats-alex-meyer-0430-20130429,0,6825994.story

Rock Cats' Alex Meyer Throws Knuckle Curve That Could Be Ticket To Majors
He Pitches Tuesday Night In New Britain

By DOM AMORE, damore@courant.com
The Hartford Courant
4:54 p.m. EDT, April 29, 2013

NEW BRITAIN—
David Meyer, umpiring a high school game in Indiana, saw something he'd never seen before, an unusually sharp-breaking curveball.

"My dad wasn't sure what it was," Alex Meyer said, "so he asked , 'What are you throwing?' and he showed him the grip for it. My dad came home and showed me, and I started messing around, playing catch with it."

Alex Meyer was a freshman at Greensburg High, and the pitch was a spike curveball, which was becoming popular. It is thrown with the forefinger bent, the tip on the ball. Meyer eventually put a very different spin on the pitch.

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And now his "knuckle curve," as he calls it, and another unusual pitch, his no-seam fastball, have him very close to the major leagues. Meyer is 2-0 with a 1.64 ERA for the Rock Cats, and Twins GM Terry Ryan is expected to join the team and watch him pitch against Harrisburg at New Britain Stadium Tuesday night.

"And if my dad hadn't umpired that day and asked that kid, I probably would never have learned to throw the pitch," Meyer said.

Meyer, a 6-foot-9, 220-pound righthander, was Indiana's Mr. Baseball in 2008, when he went 8-0 with an 0.95 ERA and 108 strikeouts in 51 innings. The Red Sox drafted him in the 20th round and offered $2 million, but he chose to attend the University of Kentucky. Three years later, Meyer was touching 100 mph and had dominated the SEC and was drafted in the first round, 23rd, by the Nationals in 2011, signing for $2 million.

After a strong first season in Class A, Meyer was traded to the Twins for outfielder Denard Span in November.

Meyer, 23, pitched five innings in big league camp, allowing one hit.

"The big kid," Twins manager Ron Gardenhire said after one outing, "is really fun to watch."

He was assigned to Double A and in four starts for the 'Cats has allowed 21 hits and eight walks in 22 innings with 26 strikeouts and a 3.75 groundout-to-flyout ratio.

"He's tall to begin with, and everything he throws is hard and down," Rock Cats manager Jeff Smith said.

The knuckle curve is baseball's wild card pitch. A handful of pitchers have thrown it, and nearly always it is a pitch they invented themselves. Burt Hooten, who pitched for the Dodgers and Cubs in the 1970s, had his knuckles on the ball and thrust his fingers forward as he released it. Mike Mussina, who pitched for the Orioles and Yankees from 1990-2008, tried to throw a conventional knuckleball, with two fingertips on the ball, but found his pitches would dive if he instead thrust his fingers out and made the ball spin faster, instead of not at all. These knuckle curves were slow pitches. Jason Isringhausen has also thrown a version of a knuckle curve during his long MLB career.

Meyer's version, too, is his own and presents its own challenges.

"I've never met anybody who throws it the way I do," he said. "I really stick my fingernail into the seam. You have to have big enough fingers to be able to do it. Most guys have the finger up against the ball. With me, if my fingernail is not right that day, it's going to be really hard for me to throw it. I've learned to adapt so that the length of my fingernail is where I like to have it. I use a nail file during the season."

Meyer digs his fingernail into the seams and flicks the ball as he releases it with his three-quarters motion. But there's nothing slow about Meyer's knuckle curve, which is why some scouts think it is a slider. He throws it better than 85 mph and it has a late, violent swerve.

"It's a hard slurve," Smith said. "The hitters' reaction? Not good. Especially right-handed hitters. He gets a lot of swings and misses with it."

Of course, a pitch released in this manner is bound to be hard to control — and since no one else throws it, Meyer has had to become his own pitching coach.

"My junior year in high school I really started throwing it," Meyer said. "I really struggled to throw it for a strike. When I was throwing it for a strike, most guys were turning out of the way, thinking I was going to hit 'em. Once I got to college, it was OK. It still had the big break, but there were days I couldn't throw it for a strike. By the time I left there, and into now, I feel pretty good, where I can throw it for a strike when I need to. No one has ever tried to coach me out of it."

At Kentucky, his conventional four-seam fastball was hard but straight, and it got hit. Former major league closer Bill Caudill, who later became his agent, suggested he try a no-seam grip. A four-seamer is gripped against the seams, a two-seamer, or sinker, is gripped on the seams. Meyer throws his fastball with his fingers in the bare, horseshoe area of the ball. It's 93-to-97 mph with a late sinking action, and he has had opposing pitchers this season asking him what the heck it is.

"Despite the unusual grips, Meyer is able to make all his pitches look identical coming out of his hand, which might be the most important element. I really look for that," Smith said. "And most of the time I can't tell what he's throwing."

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97. "sadly, the follow up to this story is a L in the tuesday game"
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not epic proportions, but a stat line filled with numbers we don't really like ... except for 8ks over 6.

http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2013_04_30_haraax_nbraax_1&t=g_box&sid=milb

seeing how he responds should be fun.

  

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98. "There was apparently a rough inning there"
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I read some game report indicating people were impressed with how he rallied after, but the way in which he lost the handle is the continual thing we have to look for. Big guy = big mechanics, and sometimes the plate might vanish, and even if that means just getting behind in the count then that means throwing a few less of those hard and funky offerings for some hard and straight ones.

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99. "Twins in Cleveland, probables, pick'ems"
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Hernandez vs. Masterson
Correia vs. Kazmir
Pelfrey vs. Kluber

I have very little thoughts about these matchups. Hernandez has been surprisingly effective, basically a poor man's Scott Diamond. This concerns me because even though I like Scott Diamond I kind of think that he's the poor man's Scott Diamond. But in the Twins fashion over the past half-decade, you apparently can't have enough of those.

Save us from ourselves, Alex Meyer.

Pelfrey has been the disaster I expected Correia to be, but I also have no faith that Correia hasn't also been the disaster I expected Correia to be - except for the luck of giving up a lot of balls in play which have found gloves. Cleveland can actually hit, so expect... whatever you end up expecting. The team is .500, which is sort of mind blowing, so feel free to think outside of the box I'm drawing.

How about some pick'ems?

Twins wins vs. Indians wins
Mauer strikeouts vs. Pelfrey earned runs
Reynolds homers vs. Hicks stolen bases
Hernandez innings vs. Twins bullpen strikeouts
Morneau homers vs. Plouffe starts

Give me:
Twins, Pelfrey, Reynolds, Pen, Morneau

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101. "no clue what happened tonight, so i'll shoot"
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>Twins wins vs. Indians wins
twins

>Mauer strikeouts vs. Pelfrey earned runs
pelfrey ... duh.

>Reynolds homers vs. Hicks stolen bases
hicks

>Hernandez innings vs. Twins bullpen strikeouts
eesh ... hernandez

>Morneau homers vs. Plouffe starts
plouffe ... though i would love to be proved wrong. as would every other OKTwins fan, i'm sure.

  

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100. "Hot Sheet Twins - Buxton, Gibson, and Polanco "in the team photo""
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I thought it'd be the first week without a positive Twins entry, but then all three of these guys showed up in the honor roll (so to speak) section.

If we're .500 and Gibson is throwing as well as this mention indicates, who do we want out of the rotation? Pedro Hernandez is the guy we're least committed to. Mike Pelfrey is the present worst. Kevin Correia is still my pick to finish the season worst.

Byron Buxton, cf, Twins. Last year’s No. 2 overall pick has been worth the price of admission all by himself at low Class A Cedar Rapids. The five-tool center fielder added two more homers this week, one of them victimizing Blue Jays prospect Roberto Osuna, as part of a .304/.469/.696 (7-for-23) showing that also included a whopping eight walks and three stolen bases.

Kyle Gibson, rhp, Twins. If the Twins need starting-pitcher help at some point this summer, Gibson should be ready and waiting. He’s only had one awful start in his first five appearances at Triple-A Rochester this spring and he’s had three really good outings, like the one he threw this week (zero runs in 6 2/3 innings with seven strikeouts and two walks). The 25-year-old has shown no lingering effects from his Tommy John surgery and by all accounts looks just about big league ready.

Jorge Polanco, ss, Twins. A smooth defender with a light bat when he signed in 2009, Polanco’s hitting continues to move in the right direction. The 19-year-old is hitting .337/.369/.474 in 24 games in the low Class A Midwest League.

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102. "myron fuxton? "
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OKTwins need to be creative with this one. our hicks adventure hasn't helped at all which leads me to believe the earlier we set precedent, the better the results. see: MEJOR, MIGUEL.

  

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103. "Sunday FunDay in the minors: May, Mejor, Myron Fuxton*"
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Trevor May, you're a Twins pitcher now. Seven innings pitched. Three hits. One earned run. Two walks. Three strikeouts. I am not going to knock this start, but it's not entirely comforting to see that the Twins have managed to "fix" May's walks/homers problem (for one day at least) concurrent to a steep decline in strikeout numbers. Trevor May strikes dudes out. That is the reason why we acquired him. There are substantial warts that can keep him from becoming a usable big league starter, but there is no happy ending to the story for Trevor May where he doesn't use the plus fastball and plus curve to make batters swing and miss.

There's a middle ground here, where this is the part of the process where May learns to command his fastball to get ahead in counts. Last time, he got rocked for a bunch of singles and doubles. This time, balls found gloves. If there's a step beyond this where, imbued with the confidence to pound the zone with 93-95mph fastballs, he resumes striking bozos outs with that curve, then I will drop this worry. But only then.

Miguel Mejor hit another homerun. Because it was Sunday. Three for four with a homer and four RBI. He struck out once, but didn't make any errors. His fielding his been, at the very least, much, much cleaner this year. Rightly or wrongly, the Twins are an organization that believes in errors and Mejor's ability to handle balls without throwing them into the seats behind first is a perhaps-disproportionately-important sign that he may be capable of playing third for Minnesota.

Also, he's hitting .377/.446/.755 right now. That batting average is rather implausible with 32 strikeouts in 118 plate appearances, but if you want the profile of somebody who is theoretically capable of hitting .540 on contact it's somebody who hits every ball really, really hard - and a bunch of them over the fence where there's no chance that anybody can catch it.

At this point, it may be reasonable to ask yourself whether anybody in the system is outperforming Sano. The strict answer according to the above batting line is "no," but Buxton* is putting up a pretty similar batting line (.383/.504/.681) with really eyebrow-raising peripheral numbers that don't make us doubt the batting average in the same way that they do with Sano. Drafted, Buxton was the toolsiest of toolsy outfielders, which provokes the very useful dual question of whether and when he can turn those into baseball skills. For the first test of pro, full-season ball the answer is clearly "yes" and "right now". He is way more polished than anybody initially anticipated, proven with a 23:20 BB:K ratio. Further, evidence of his learning curve is that pretty much the only early knock on him was that for somebody fast he seemed to get a poor jump on the basepaths a lot. That was digging deep for something to ding Buxton for, but I think he was only something like 5 out of 9 stolen bases attempts. Now? He's 12 for 16.

The Twins will keep waiting for the other shoe to drop on both these guys, and wisely. But I think that if I had to choose which one was a better candidate for promotion based purely on performance, it'd be Buxton - arguably making more of a joke out of his present competition. That probably wont be the way it plays out because these decisions aren't based purely on performance. The Twins have seen Sano struggle and snap out of it - not so yet with Buxton - and more information always makes for safer promotions. Plus, they like to one-level-at-a-time for the lower minors even more than the upper levels.

*I'm imagining Myron Fuxton as his nerd doppleganger, no?

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104. "Want to see a really easy homerun swing?"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=87_Pc31EIFQ

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105. "you didn't even have to think about it, did you? (c) eli cash"
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it's not quite perfect, but the resignation is what works. especially after watching the video and seeing just how little MEJOR has to put into that swing.

2/3 yesterday with a double and a walk. two errors though. i love that affiliate site you put me on to.

  

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106. "RE: you didn't even have to think about it, did you? (c) eli cash"
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I'm mildly concerned that Twins fans wont be comfortable with his candor and ambition. But we're mostly idiots. It sounds like he works his ass off to be better than good enough. Both him and Oswaldo Arcia seem to have a substantial helping of "fuck you" in their game, which is exactly the sort of thing the organization should be encouraging.

Mientkiewicz thinks he belongs in AA. Talking about that with ESPN is not very company line. But it's hard not to at this point. What's our over/under if things continue like this? July first?

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9239068/top-twins-prospect-miguel-sano-starring-documentary

Star turns for Twins' Miguel Sanó

Minnesota's top prospect excels on the diamond and in front of the cameras

Originally Published: May 4, 2013
By Enrique Rojas | ESPNdeportes.com

CLEARWATER, Fla. -- Miguel Sanó, one of the Minnesota Twins' top prospects, is a movie star -- literally.

Sanó won't turn 20 for a week, but he is not intimidated by the cameras recording his every move as he hits his way up the Twins' farm system toward the majors. At his current rate, he'll most likely arrive at Target Field sometime in the 2014 season, although Sanó isn't ruling out the possibility that it could happen this summer.

Despite being the youngest player in the Florida State League (Advanced Class A), the shortstop-turned-third baseman is hitting .368 and leads the league with nine home runs and 24 RBIs in 24 games with the Fort Myers Miracle. And he's doing it while smiling for the cameras that have followed him everywhere since he was a 15-year-old boy growing up on the playing fields of San Pedro de Macoris on the east side of the Dominican Republic.

"This does not affect me at all," Sanó told ESPNdeportes.com before a game in Clearwater this week. "I believe it helps me because when I'm in the majors, I will be surrounded by cameras, right? It helps me get used to it."

Sanó's journey through the minors has been filmed for the past two years by Guagua Productions for a documentary titled "The Miguel Sanó Story." The producers' intent is to stick with him until he makes his big league debut with the Twins.

"The Miguel Sanó Story" will pick up where "Ballplayer: Pelotero" left off. Focusing on Sanó and another young Dominican player, Jean Carlos, "Ballplayer: Pelotero," which premiered in 2012, examined the controversial and frequently corrupt process by which promising Dominican athletes are scouted, recruited, signed and incorporated into MLB training camps in the Dominican Republic.

In 2009, after a long MLB investigation that included bone structure tests and other examinations to determine if he really was 16, as his documents and his tutors claimed, Sanó received a $3.15 million signing bonus from Minnesota.

The executive producer of "Ballplayer: Pelotero" was Bobby Valentine, at that time the manager of the Boston Red Sox. The film created some discomfort in Major League Baseball's central offices. When it was released, commissioner Bud Selig called it inaccurate and spoke with the Red Sox about Valentine's role with it. Valentine is not a part of "The Miguel Sano Story."

If Sanó was affected by the controversy over "Ballplayer: Pelotero," it's difficult to discern.

"I feel happy," said Sanó, who was ranked 11th on Keith Law's top 100 prospects list in February. "Having a movie is something that makes you feel good. The second one will be better than the first one. That will not affect me. I keep a clear mind, focusing on the important things."

Being the center of attention certainly hasn't seemed to hurt Sanó's game. Through three-plus seasons in the minors, he is batting .287 with 64 home runs and 212 RBIs. Last year, he hit 28 home runs and drove in 100 runs in 129 games for Beloit in the Midwest League (Middle Class A).

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Any wonder Sanó is a fan favorite? He is a movie star, after all.
Nearly half of his 35 hits for Fort Myers this season have been for extra bases -- seven doubles and a triple to go with his nine home runs. Perhaps it shouldn't be a surprise that he is thinking about the next level and doesn't rule out the possibility of playing at Target Field this year.

"The team says that I could be promoted next month, but I'm not distracted by that," Sanó said. "Every day, I try to play tougher. And when I'm there, I will do the same thing: play hard every game, every day, every inning.

"I hope to be in the big leagues by the end of the year. I'm working on that. If it's not this year, it will be at the start of next year. I believe that I deserve the chance. I have the skills and potential."

"Miguel looks very comfortable doing what he is doing," said Fort Myers manager Doug Mientkiewicz. " more mature and each day closer to being ready for the big leagues. We are talking about a very young man but one that has a lot of pride and never settles on doing things halfway."

Before he gets to the majors, though, Sanó knows he needs to learn a few things and improve on others. He is still in the transition from shortstop to third base, and his knowledge of the strike zone can use some work. He struck out 144 times in 2012 and is averaging more than one strikeout per game in his minor league career.

"After playing my whole life as a shortstop, it was tough settling in as a third baseman, because my legs moved a lot," he said. "I worked hard in winter ball and then with Paul Molitor in training camp, getting used to it.

"I'm not worried about swinging the bat. It's a matter of adjustment. Last year, I took 80 walks, and this year I've got plenty. I think I can become a ballplayer who gets 100 walks."

What worries him the most? The language, and his weight.

"I really want to improve my English," Sanó said. "I've focused 100 percent on that and would like to speak better English by the time I get to Double-A.

"I arrived to training camp around 238 pounds, but now I'm down to 229, which is my ideal weight."

Getting to the Twins Double-A team in New Britain, Conn., is the next item on Sanó's to-do list. While he thinks it could happen soon, his coaches would rather wait and let his development be the guide for the next step.

"Organizations have a general plan that includes a ballplayer and also the next team for him," said Ivan Arteaga, Fort Myers' pitching coach and the general manager of Margarita in Venezuela's winter ball. "Sanó might get 200 at-bats in Class-A, another 200 in Double-A, before he is ready for the next level. When he gets to Double-A, he will be real close to the big leagues."

"I don't get the final word, but I think he is ready for Double-A," Mientkiewicz said. "You have to understand that Minnesota doesn't want Sanó to be promoted and then go back. When he gets called to the big leagues, it will be for the long run."

Until he gets the phone call to inform him of his next assignment, Sanó will enjoy the two things he really likes: hitting a baseball and posing for the cameras.

"I love being filmed, but I don't lose my focus," he said. "I never lost it when I was signed and got what might be for a guy with a humble origin a lot of money. I'm a humble guy, from a humble family, who has got much advice from many people, including big league players."

One of those big leaguers who has helped him, he said, is fellow Dominican and New York Yankees star Robinson Cano.

"Cano taught me how to deal with things like making a lot of money … women and stuff like that," said Sanó, already a star in his own right in real-life movies.

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107. "Big Club Chatter: Scott Diamond, Parmelee vs. Oswaldo, Bullpain"
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1. Fangraphs posted a nice interview with Scott Diamond. We, rightfully, complain a lot about the clone army - but the fact is that a guy who throws 87mph probably needs to just be who he is. Diamond acknowledges the tension between the value of strikeouts and that fact in this rather nice interview.

“That said, you can throw too many strikes. I’ve had that problem. I faced the Rangers two starts ago and kind of got myself into that. I’m learning to do a better job of throwing fewer strikes to expand the hitter’s strike zone.”

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/qa-scott-diamond-twins-control-artist/

2. Here's a statement which should be totally uncontroversial that I suspect the team is less than a month away from acknowledging. Oswaldo Arcia is better than Chris Parmelee right now. He hasn't started making better contact or drawing walks at the improved rate he showed last year yet, but he's shown the ability to hit MLB pitching hard and Parmelee really hasn't yet.

That doesn't have to be a big deal yet. Doumit's been struggling and has seen sporadic playing time. If he stays hot after last night's big, fat day then I think a simple switch in roles with Arcia and Parmelee is in order. Parmelee is bat off the bench. Arcia is starting RFer. And Doumit goes back to a simpler time share of DH/C.

3. There's been a couple bad nights for the pen lately, but truthfully I rather like this group. Also, not a lot of help on the farm at the moment. Guerra was ready to help when he got the black plague (or shoulder problems or whatever) during the WBC. Michael Tonkin is somebody on the 40 man to keep an eye on and he's pitching really well at AA, but not so well that it demands a call-up. And I assume somebody in the organization feels a moral obligation to make a decision on Anthony Slama, but he's been shitty so far this year.

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108. "i like it when the twins score 15 runs. more please. "
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especially with arcia going 4/5. it took him, what? a month? really hope he is f'real.

is sano hurt? just checked the affiliates page for yesterday's game and he wasn't in the lineup. maybe a call up? can't believe they would wait until july.

and myron fuxton is not going to work. i was liking the fuxton part a bit too much for lothario and opposing pitcher psyche purposes, but it was an idea which should have stayed in my own head.

  

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109. "Sano got HBP in the elbow a couple nights ago"
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He's day to day, but it's not serious.

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110. "What the hell happened, I didn't get to watch the game?"
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Was this just the one crazy game of the year (like in '11 when we lit up Madison Bumgarner for like 8 runs in the first inning)?

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111. "didn't watch either"
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but i guess the first two innings took well over an hour. it was 5-4 bosox at the end of the first and then we scored another 7 in the top of the second.

surprised they got the game in under 4 hours.

  

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112. "OSWALDO!"
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>especially with arcia going 4/5. it took him, what? a month?
>really hope he is f'real.

f'real. f'real? f'really real?

cotdamn.

  

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113. "Draft Stuff!"
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Mocks are starting to come out, and the general consensus is that a hard top tier of Jonathan Gray (RHP, Oklahoma University) and Mark Appel (RHP, Stanford) will go in the 1/2 slots. There's a substantial "anything can happen" caveat to that, but this isn't a particularly deep draft and between the hard slotting requirements and the gap in talent between those two and a second tier of top ten talents, nobody seems to seriously think that either of those two will fall.

Which is a shame, because both of them could start pro careers at a high level and get to the majors quickly. The Twins could really use that in their system.

Since we're out of the top two, that leaves a solid class of four or five names that are now starting to get connected with actual teams. Here are a few of the ones associated with the Twins - with BA scouting reports.

Jim Callis of BA mentioned a rumor the other day that the Twins were exploring a pre-draft deal with Reese McGuire that would permit them to spent more later in the draft. I don't object to this plan (basically what the Astros did last year with Carlos Correa) in theory - if the Twins like McGuire disproportionate to his perceived draft value, it's a good idea - but I don't think that a shallow draft where the Twins don't have a surplus of picks is the time to do it.

Keith Law indicated in his chat the other day that the Twins have cooled less on Manaea than other teams have, if that makes sense. He reported that his injuries were a bigger concern than his inconsistent results this spring and that if he finishes strong that they could still pop him. I'd love to believe he can be a LH ace, so that'll work for me.

A couple writers have mentioned the Twins strong interest in Kohl Stewart, which would be severely out of character. But at #4 you can't not consider prep righties just because they're out of your comfort zone. The longer BA swipe on Stewart mentions his signability. He's a football commit to play QB at Texas A&M, but most scouts think he'd rather sign and play baseball than sit behind Manziel.

The outfielding duo of Meadows/Frazier is separating with the Twins (according to Jeremy Nygaard, writing on TwinsDaily) agreeing with most teams that Frazier is the better prospect. This would seem to be in character for them, but I still think that hinges on whether they see Frazier as a CFer. His bat could very well be amazing, but I can't imagine them going overboard on an undersized prep outfielder who profiles better at a corner.

I included Kris Bryant because I see him show up once and awhile with Appel and Gray as a top-tier guy. He's an add-on because nobody thinks he'll go #1, where that projection is presently about 60/40 for Appel over Gray with no third candidate. So the people who are including Bryant are usually saying he stands out as somebody who is closer to a lock at #3 than in that 4-10 mush. But that's hardly been unanimous, so I figured I'd include him. I suspect the Twins appreciation for him is the same as other teams' - a great talent who becomes a necessity if you think he can play third. That would make him redundant with Sano in position and skillset, but that's a good kind of problem.

Sean Manaea, lhp, Indiana State
Manaea broke out in the Cape Cod League last summer as its pitcher of the year and top prospect. He struck out a league-high 85 batters in 52 innings while holding opponents to a .119 average, thanks to an explosive mid-90s fastball that never seemed to find the barrel of a bat. His first pitch this spring was 96 mph, but he has mostly pitched at 88-93 mph and not held his velocity deep into games. The 6-foot-5, 235-pounder has to rely on his fastball, which features plenty of life and deception when he’s right, to help his secondary pitches play up. He’ll flash a quality slider and uses a split/changeup as his offspeed pitch, but neither gives him a consistently above-average No. 2 pitch. His command and control, which were sharp last summer despite his low three-quarters arm angle, also have regressed. Manaea continues to post quality numbers (1.61 ERA, 11.3 strikeouts per nine innings, .192 opponent average), but he has been far from the guy who overmatched the Cape.

3. Kris Bryant, 3b/of, San Diego
Bryant’s best tool is his plus-plus righthanded power, allowing him to launch towering shots over the light standard in left field or hit balls over the fence to the opposite field. He has adopted a wider base and a simpler approach at the plate this year, and he has impressed scouts with his ability to turn on inside fastballs or go the other way with sliders over the outer half. His plate discipline and ability to consistently barrel up a variety of pitches make him a safe bet to be at least an average hitter, and many scouts think he’ll be better than that. Bryant’s arm gives him another above-average tool. His athleticism gives him at least a chance to stick at third, although he’ll need plenty more repetitions to master the position. Some scouts project him as a prototypical right fielder. He has average speed and can be faster under way, and he has shown good instincts in right and center.

Kohl Stewart, rhp, St. Pius X HS, Houston
He may not get the No. 1 overall pick buzz of righthanders Jonathan Gray (Oklahoma) and Mark Appel (Stanford), but one scouting director said, “Stewart’s pure stuff is as good as theirs, and he’s more athletic than they are.” Scouts love the 6-foot-3, 190-pounder’s arsenal, athleticism and competitiveness. They say that he has better present stuff than Jameson Taillon did when the Pirates took the suburban Houston righthander No. 2 overall in 2010. Stewart has boosted his fastball from 88-93 mph last summer to 91-96 for much of the spring, though his velocity tails off at times in the later innings. His life and command with his heater make it even more dominating, but his best offering is a power mid-80s slider with tilt. He has improved his curveball and shows feel for his changeup, and he’ll display four above-average big league pitches at times. He has a clean delivery and should get even better once he concentrates solely on baseball. Stewart has been limited at times this spring because of minor shoulder (a carryover from football), hamstring and thumb ailments, but none is a major concern.

12. Reese McGuire, c, Kentwood HS, Covington, Wash.
He is a natural behind the plate. He remains loose, even after adding strength to his 6-foot-1, 190-pound build. His receiving, blocking and arm strength are all above-average, and he has been calling his own games since he was 10 years old. He has a high baseball IQ and game awareness. The question will be how much McGuire will hit. He has a smooth lefthanded swing with strength and bat speed and shows the tools to be an above-average pure hitter with average power. The San Diego recruit runs better than most catchers. Even if he doesn’t reach his offensive ceiling, McGuire’s defense will allow him to be a big league backup, but if he hits he has all-star potential.

Clint Frazier, of, Loganville (Ga.) HS
While he’s modestly sized, Frazier has fast-twitch athleticism and strength in his hands, wrists and forearms. He generates tremendous bat speed and plus-plus raw power that should play at any level. He hits ‘em far and hits homers with regularity. While Frazier has a compact swing, scouts expect him to swing and miss a decent amount with his aggressive approach and modest feel for hitting. He’s an above-average runner whose speed plays better offensively than in the field. Frazier’s defense in center field remains raw; he lacks instincts and tries to outrun his mistakes. He has shown above-average arm strength in the past, but scouts say he has played through pain this spring and his arm has played as average or worse at times. Thanks to his bat and power, Frazier should hit enough if he has to move to a corner and fits in the first 10 selections.

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114. "Aaron Hicks' big day out"
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Good for him. That looked like a lot of fun.

Relatedly (or not) the bats have kind of heated up lately. This division has so far looked better than it should be, so it's nice not to be the shit team out.

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115. "my ears did a double take in the car this morning"
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"aaron hicks with two homeruns..."

WHA?!

i am happy for him. hope it's the sign of him getting a bit more comfortable at the plate.

and, really, of all people to show the rest of the twins how to hit a homerun at target field, it's the switch hitting CF who is batting .152?

is it just me or does that beard make ryan dunn very, very punchable?

surprised this division is as competitive as it is right now. what's up with the tigers?

  

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116. "Both those homers looked *easy* too"
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Just a bit left of dead center and then to the tough, tough left-center gap on a line. Not a lot of homers hit to either spot there, and he didn't seem to have a tough time.

This will work for me if he can continue to, as you rightly put it, become more comfortable with what he's doing at the plate and putting those natural skills to work. The result could be, for awhile, something closer to lower-minors Aaron Hicks where he jumps all over lefties (both homers yesterday were against the same LHP) and works long, leadoff-y at-bats against RHP. And we accept the BB/K tradeoff inherent for Hicks in the latter.

Bringing back Dunn's homer was icing on the cake too.

>is it just me or does that beard make ryan dunn very, very
>punchable?

That is absolutely not you.

>surprised this division is as competitive as it is right now.
>what's up with the tigers?

They're scoring/preventing runs like a 24 win team, so it's a bit of bad luck at the moment. Some against the Twins, who have taken a lot of the one-run karma leaguewide so far.

Ordinarily, if a team is underperforming their RS/RA expectations, the bullpen is a place to look for an answer that isn't "luck" and though the re-installation of Jose Valverde says that by the time the season is over we may end up pointing to that, but that's not the case at the moment as this bad-on-paper pen is pitching really well. A couple guys given back-end responsibilities have been trouble though. Coke, Dotel, Rondon.

They'll be fine, sadly. It's not a historically great team, but I actually really dig the cleverness with which they were assembled. Sort of an anti-Twins on the run prevention side. This is unintentional Ceej-bait, I realize, but they are defensively an absolutely miserable team. With the hitting personnel they've assembled, it's obviously a sacrifice they're comfortable with. And they should be, since living with Miguel Cabrera's defense at third so you can get Prince Fielder and (well... on paper) Victor Martinez both in the lineup is totally different than, say, living with Brendan Harris' defense at shortstop because of his bat.

But then they doubled up on that principle and asked themselves how they can help out all of their shitball defenders. The answer: put together a staff that strikes out just shy of TEN guys per nine innings. Now aforementioned strangegloves only need to turn seventeen balls in play into outs instead of twenty seven.

It's not like this is rocket science. The reason elite power bats (Cabrera and Fielder) and high-strikeout starters (Verlander, Scherzer, and Anibal Sanchez who is suddenly strikeout out guys at TWICE his career rate*) are supercrazy expensive is because there are exactly thirty GMs in baseball who know that those are the some of the best things you can have. Still, the idea is cool from a team construction perspective.

*take the under on that as the season goes on. though it's odd that he's getting fewer swings on balls both in and out of the zone but batters are making less contact. did he develop a pitch that's literally an optical illusion?

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118. "Olney via BPro: Hicks tidbit"
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This is from May 2nd. Means he's not a pure slapper from the left side. So that's good.

"Buster Olney
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ESPN Stats/Info:Aaron Hicks recorded a triple on a 101 MPH fastball from Bruce Rondon–the fastest pitch hit for extra bases since 2010."

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117. "John Sickels tries to restrain Buxton enthusiasm - doesn't totally fail"
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The thing is kind of a "meh" from seeing one of Buxton's few games where he didn't do something outlandish and amazing. And Sickels still came away with the understanding that Buxton had some outlandishly amazing skills - see the part about beating a routine grounder to third.

The takeaway, though, is that between talking to scouts and watching him, he didn't see anything that makes Buxton seem flukey. Good news.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2013/5/13/4326724/prospect-report-byron-buxton-of-minnesota-twins

Prospect Report: Byron Buxton, OF, Minnesota Twins
By John Sickels on May 13 2013, 12:43p

I went to Davenport, Iowa, last week to see the Cedar Rapids Kernels (Low-A farm team for the Minnesota Twins) play the Quad Cities River Bandits (Low-A affiliate for the Houston Astros). The CR team is particularly loaded with prospects. Quad Cities has talent as well, although unfortunately the two best hitters on the team, Carlos Correa and Rio Ruiz, were injured and on the disabled list during my trip. A rainout interfered and I also missed Lance McCullers, but I still came away with some interesting information and observations to share with you. We'll get this started with a solo report on Minnesota Twins uber-prospect Byron Buxton.

As you are no doubt aware, Buxton was drafted by the Twins in the first round last June, second overall, from high school in Baxley, Georgia. He was considered to be the top position player prospect in the draft by many experts, featuring outstanding overall tools including speed, power potential, a strong arm, and excellent overall athleticism. There was some muted concern in high school about how his swing would translate into pro ball; his production against weak competition as a prep was uneven, but his upside was so high that most observers didn't particularly care and it was felt that his problems were correctable. If his power blossomed, he could develop into an Andrew McCutchen-style across the board star. If his bat proved troublesome, he might be more of a Cameron Maybin type.

Buxton hit .216/.324/.466 in 27 games in the Gulf Coast League last summer, followed by a .286/.368/.429 mark in 21 games in the Appalachian League, combining for 19 walks and 41 strikeouts in 165 at-bats. That wasn't bad at all, especially considering that the Twins were spending a lot of time reworking his swing. The results this spring have been outstanding: .352/.458/.608 in 33 games for Cedar Rapids, with 25 walks and 29 strikeouts in 125 at-bats. He has also stolen 13 bases in 19 attempts.

Born December 18, 1993, Buxton is a right-handed hitter listed at 6-2, 190. The height/weight looks accurate visually: he wasn't a beast on the field in terms of size. The athleticism, on the other hand, does stand out: he's loose and a bit lanky, but moves with ease and grace at all times.

I knew he was fast, with at least 70-speed, but he still took me by surprise. In the first inning, he hit a routine ground ball to the third baseman. It was a normal play, the third baseman made a normal scoop and made a normal, on-time, on target throw to first base. Buxton beat the throw for a single; I literally said "holy shit" out loud. There are reports that he's been timed at 3.70 down the first base line and I completely believe it. He's almost as fast as Cincinnati Reds prospect Billy Hamilton.

Buxton was not challenged on any fielding play in center field in the game I saw, so I didn't see his legs or arm fully tested. However, he appeared alert and active in the field, backed up the infielders properly, and looked very good in pre-game outfield drills. Scouts give his range and arm plus ratings and I didn't see anything to make me question that.

Buxton didn't have a great game with the bat, going 1-for-4 with that infield single, a walk, and two strikeouts. He was very selective early in the count and is developing a very good batting eye, but both strikeouts came on sliders outside the strike zone that he'll need to lay off at higher levels. His bat was quick and his swing was compact, but despite the outstanding numbers he's put up this season, in this particular game the ball did not jump off his bat with much authority.

His swing looked level to me, and if I didn't know who he was, I don't know I would see him as a huge future home run hitter based on just this one game. He looked like a guy who would hit for average with doubles power, but like I said, it was just one game and I didn't see anything that would be a red flag that his overall numbers are a fluke. Midwest League sources who have seen him play frequently buy into him completely.

I paid a lot of attention to his body language before and during the game. He looked like he was having a good time, but also appeared focused and serious when appropriate. Buzz about his makeup is positive, and I didn't see anything to make me doubt that. He hustled and did everything he was supposed to do when he was supposed to do it.

There is a lot of speculation about when the Twins should move Buxton up to High-A. Based on what I saw Wednesday, he still has a few things to learn in the Midwest League. The Twins usually don't rush their prospects, and I don't see the harm in leaving him in Cedar Rapids for another month or so.

Overall, although it wasn't one of his best games, I came away from the Quad Cities very impressed with Buxton. He's the real deal and clearly one of the best prospects in the game. I was a bit cautious with his ranking on my initial Top 150 Prospects for 2013 back in March, ranking him 37th. I'd jump him up at least 25 spots right now and probably more, into the Top 10. As other players graduate off the list, Buxton will likely be in the Top Five.

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119. "Oswaldo Arcia meets MLB"
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I'm positive that I've brought this up before, but the one thing that's stood out to me in Oswaldo Arcia's ascension is his ability to adjust quickly and durably to new levels of competition. Progress up the ladder of pro baseball is a weird thing, filled with big steps forward followed by inexplicable steps back (Andy Marte, whose acquisition by the Indians caused me to predict that 2006-20015 would be the Indians' decade in MLB) and small steps forward followed by small steps back followed by much bigger steps forward followed by ... something else (Aaron Hicks).

Oswaldo Arcia has, heretofore, been the wonderful, boring example of the straight line. Acquired as an amateur free agent as a Venezuelan sixteen year old in 2007, he wasn't a big-ticket get for the Twins and they never really showed any grand plan to promote him aggressively until he showed a weird knack for acclimating quickly and conclusively to improved competition.

He showed the same base of skills in both his pro debut (DSL at age 17, .293/.343/.432) and his stateside debut (GCL at age 18, .275/.337/.455). Those skills can basically be described as an aggressive approach which, at best, welcomed a walk but strongly preferred to launch powerful linedrives to all fields and to pull flyballs over the rightfield wall. One of the things which will benefit him in this analysis is that he hasn't been tasked with the same defensive responsibilities as guys like Eddie Rosario, Miguel Sano, or even Aaron Hicks. Arcia started his career as a centerfielder, but in spite of being pretty fleet and possessing a strong, accurate arm, he's basically a box-shaped human and has always profiled in a corner.

What happened next, in continued short-season ball, was an age-19 promotion to the Appy League - the last year Arcia would see a level-by-level promotion schedule. The interesting performances at DSL and GCL there manifested in something that will probably give Appy League pitchers lasting nightmares, as he busted out to a .375/.424/.672 line. What's interesting there is that his strikeout rate ballooned to over 20%, generally a problem mark and he showed his same general disinterest in drawing walks - but it didn't affect his batting line negatively. Dude whales on everything.

A big spike in strikeout rate is a red flag, even if you square up the stuff you make contact with well enough that it's (slightly) plausible for you to have batted .375. But that performance was too much to hold him back, so Arcia started Opening Day of 2011 in Beloit. Between the cold weather and the first time pitchers have even a mild clue what they're doing, this is generally where Appy League flukes go to die. But Arcia didn't, posting a .352/.420/.704 line in 20 games. His strikeout rate remained around 20%, and at that 20 game mark he went down with a (rib, if I recall) injury.

The Twins like to see serious rehab done at homebase, so after healing he returned to Ft. Myers for some GCL rehab work. Evidently, the Twins liked what they saw because they just told him not to bother unpacking and re-assigned him to the Miracle. It was one of the weirder promotions I remember seeing as a Twins fan, as they don't usually do in-season promotions for guys in low-A; don't usually promote in the first month of the season; and regard health as an important enough skill that injury is actually a real knock on young guys.

But he didn't take notice of the exceptional circumstances and, after initial struggles, finished with a .263/.300/.460 line. The strikeout rate remained high, but that nigh-.200 IsoP in the power-suppressing Ft. Myers summer was eyebrow raising. Still, there's obviously stuff to build on in that line for somebody who will need to hit like a true corner guy in the majors, so for the first time in his career, Arcia was re-assigned to a level he'd seen before on Opening Day 2012.

Giving Arcia a second look at a level, given his reputation for quick acclimation, was an unfortunate stroke of luck for FSL pitchers. He lowered his strikeout rate, raised his walk rate to a career high, and bumped his power above that .200 IsoP mark. That led to a now-usual midseason promotion to New Britain, where he basically continued all of the above trends (but for a small uptick in K-rate) and hit .328/.398/.557. As we've discussed before, the AA promotion is the big one. This is where pitchers are capable of executing real plans against hitters and can spin above-average big league breaking pitches with regularity. What was cool too, is that Arcia started to iron out what had been a worse-than-you'd-like-to-see split against LHP and whaled against them in a pretty similar shape to righties in New Britain.

Again, the basic skills remain the same. Lots of hits and a high batting average based on strong on-contact numbers and in spite of occasionally high K-rates. Good power and the ability to use all fields. And the seasonal curve was starting to get really familiar: 2+ weeks of struggles followed by a gradual, but easily observable, return to batting dominance. He just doesn't take long to become himself.

Soooooo, with the exception of an absurd and brief stay at Rochester this season, Arcia has looked like himself in the majors this year. With twenty two games, he is basically right at the one month mark of his MLB career and we can split those neatly in half:

First eleven games: .216/.275/.405
Last eleven games: .372/.386/.581

He's not done yet, obviously. As long as he carries a 20%+ strikeout rate he'll be prone to slumps. And MLB pitchers will exploit his aggressiveness better than anybody has prior, so he'll need to draw walks too. The difficult thing for predictions is that he hasn't had to show both those skills in bulk yet, but the cool thing for imagining a really kind of awesome future is that he's never been in one place long enough for that. The one glimpse we got was 2011's return to Ft. Myers, where in his second look he successfully chopped his strikeouts to a perfectly normal level and raised his walks to around that magical 10% mark.

There are no new levels in front of him, so we can take a reasonably sunny view that these are skills he both can add and knows how to add rather seamlessly. So we may have to get used to having him around.

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120. "Pedro Hernandez down, Caleb Thielbar up, Gibson soon?"
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Our relievers have been busting ass for the terrible rotation lately, so Hernandez was returned to Rochester for bullpen help - but the other shoe is that we'll still need bodies to start games. Gibson has had two complete game shutouts in his last three starts and dinged 96mph with his fastball a couple times in the last game. He may not be ready ready as he still re-finds his post Tommy John command, but he could still be better than all five of his competitors.

Relatedly, Chris "nice story" Colabello has been hitting like crazy at Rochester. He's not on the 40-man, but they've recently started finding room for him in the outfield. If Parmelee struggles, Arcia will be the prime beneficiary, but they'll keep looking for ways to get Colabello a nice story debut.

Here's Byron Buxton hitting a walk-off grandslam. Estimated at 450 feet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESFtlpmPxT4

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121. "And it's Sam Fucking Deduno"
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Forgot about him. He lost all the buzz he gained with an awesome WBC by getting hurt. Hasn't been great in Rochester, but he's still doing the Fucking Deduno thing - which was fun last time around.

Let's see what happens.

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122. "Prospect Roundup! Parks on Buxton, Rosario, Harrison"
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Jason Parks' writing is kind of a pain. But he loves tools and the Twins draft and develop them. The note on Rosario seems to be where most people are heading. We haven't talked about him as much as his higher-ceiling'd comrades, but I'm getting excited about a real, live middle infielder that the team developed. He's hitting .318/.359/.487 in Ft. Myers. I'd like to see more walks from him, but he doesn't strike out at a particularly high rate and the power still isn't going away like some people thought it would. He'll be more of a 15+ homerun guy at the MLB level if this all works out, but it's looking more and more like that will come packaged with 40 doubles.

I can live with that.

-Byron Buxton, OF, Twins (Low-A Cedar Rapids)
After a scorching start to the season (1.194 OPS in April), Buxton has cooled (somewhat) in his second month in full-season ball, but thanks to game heroics and flashes of his future brilliance, Buxton’s stock has never been higher. Equipped with eye-splitting tools, including elite speed and easy plus raw power, the 19-year-old is well on his way to being the top prospect in the minors. Buxton recently hit a walk-off grand slam that one scout source in attendance said traveled an estimated 450 feet and was launched off a 98 mph fastball. Perfect Game’s Justin Hlubek captured the event on video, and if you have a change of pants handy, please click this link and drift into a euphoric state. --Jason Parks

-Travis (Minnesota): Eddie Rosario a solid MLB 2nd basemen in a few years?

Jason Parks: Yes. He can do what major leaguers do: hit. I say this a lot and I'm going to keep saying it until they run my out of this position at BP: Do you know what good hitters do? They f*cking hit. Rosario can hit. It's the most important carrying tool, and he possesses it. Discount him for other reasons, be it his power ceiling or defensive skill-set, but he can put his bat on a baseball, and that's the game.

-Travis Harrison, 3B, Twins (Low-A Cedar Rapids)
Harrison was a first-round draft pick in 2011, and after an impressive short-season debut in 2012, entered 2013 as a player to watch at the full-season level. His ticket to the show is the stick, and the reports coming out of the Midwest League are promising; he has some swing-and-miss and can get aggressive in his approach, but the bat has legit thunder and has a chance to play, even in an outfield corner. Better pitching will challenge the hit tool, but with power potential in his game, he doesn’t have to be a .300 hitter to make an impact. He’s a long way from realizing his potential, but don’t lose sight of Harrison in an increasingly strong system. –Jason Parks

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123. "Colabello up... what's the other shoe?"
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via TwinsDaily.com. But he's not on the 40-man, so who goes down?

Wood or Mastroianni could be 60-day'd. There are a couple relievers that wouldn't kill us to expose to waivers.

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124. "Mejor: "Let's play two!""
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This is like the second or third time in pro ball he's taken advantage of a double header to go yard twice. He's at .359/.453/.712 right now. There are increasing reports of improved defense at third. I'm rather enamored of his last week, where in spite of fewer balls in play falling for hits - he adjusted by raising his walk rate and knocking a few more pitches where nobody could catch them. In his past ten, he's .294/.429/.676 with seven strikeouts to six walks. That's how you *don't* slump.

edit: here's a note from BPro:

"Miguel Sano, 3B, Twins (High-A Fort Myers): 2-3, 2B, HR, 2 R, RBI, BB, K; elite power; big-league bat speed; received a very positive report about his defensive ability recently; shouldn't be long before I am able to see him in the Eastern League; .359/.453/.712 with 11 2B, 2 3B, and 13 HR in 153 at-bats."

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125. "most (un)equal vanimal"
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ip - 3.2
h - 10
r - 8
er - 8
bb - 2
so - 3
hr - 3

that's fugly.

  

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126. "Can't believe Gardenhire left him in on the second walk"
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two consecutive can't-find-the-plate walks and they left him in. Then left him in when he ran it to 2-0 on Gattis. The 3-0 was a close but away call, but still...should have taken the walk and changed pitchers.

  

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wonder if we've just set the record for fastest opening day starter to end up in AAA? credit for that whodunnit goes to KFAN.

  

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The good thing is that this is the point where command/control righty is exposed to the front office as something that doesn't work. Maybe. Truthfully, I'd rather have Worley up and Correia floated out to sea because that string of decent starts at the beginning of the year was some borrowed time shit.

Or not. With the exception of Gibson, this shitty rotation isn't really even a stopgap for guys who are nigh-ready.

There was a good draft rumor yesterday though, that the Astros were trying to cut a pre-draft deal with UNC thirdbaseman Colin Moran. That could let one of the two pitchers drop to fourth, since Colorado is almost certainly going for a position player.

I don't want to get my hopes up, but Mark Appel would be the best pitcher in our rotation today. By a long distance.

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129. "and, yet, we would still make him go through the MiLB motions"
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>I don't want to get my hopes up, but Mark Appel would be the
>best pitcher in our rotation today. By a long distance.

which is very, very frustrating.

goes back to the argument on gibson going into this season. he's obviously the best starting pitcher we have. i understand he is on limited innings and we don't want to stretch him much, but then we let him pitch complete games down in AAA? seriously? get him up here if you're going to do that shit.

  

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130. "What is our offense?"
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The Twins are presently weighing in at below the league average in runs scored, but have some sort of interesting characteristics in that below-average offense which are eye-opening insofar as being out of the norm for a Twins team. Sooooooooooooo, let's take a look.

At just below 4.40 runs per game, we can classify the present output of this lineup as somewhere between "meh" and "shitty". They've had some bounceback from a pretty terrible April, so I think that we should err towards the "meh" side of that but they haven't bounced back to exhibit anything greater than that, stomping of Jeremy Bonderman notwithstanding.

They don't hit a lot of homeruns, at 14th in the AL. That's not new. They aren't hitting a lot of doubles, at 10th in the league. That is new.

But what has caught my attention in particular is the two mundane cousins of the three true outcomes - walks and strikeouts. The Twins spent most of the aughts being dinged by nerds like me (but not actually me) for not caring enough about plate discipline and OBA. There's a bunch of reasons why this wasn't a valid critique (drafting and developing Joe Mauer being one, their insistence that their pitchers avoid walks being another) but it's always been true that the Twins don't really draw a lot of walks as a team. This year, though, they rank 5th in the AL - right behind three SABR-friendly teams (BOS, OAK, TBR) and a team with two guys putting together HOF-caliber peaks in the middle of their order (DET) that probably couldn't avoid a ton of walks if they tried.

That's weird. Though it's being driven by known quantities Willingham and Mauer. Willingham has made up for his nosediving batting average by drawing enough walks to, honestly, kind of make up for it. And Mauer is being Mauer, at least in this regard. Giving regular playing time to rookies who made their MiLB bones by knowing the strikezone a bit (Hicks and Parmelee) has also helped, as have veteran hitters like Morneau and Doumit. In short - this team can work a count. That bodes well if the offense is ever to truly turn a corner.

What's additionally weird is the strikeouts. The Twins rank sixth in the AL in that category, and the surge has been driven by exactly the same people. And Brian Dozier, who has just been terrible. Mauer's mounting strikeout total is kind of odd too, though I'm not really sure what to make of it as he pounds out what has heretofore been a vintage Mauer season at .335/.417/.490. There should be another shoe there for him, but since this is so unusual for him, the other shoe may be that he just stops striking out so much. There's no existing trend to point us to that conclusion, but it certainly seems possible.

The slightly cool thing with Mauer is that if he's selling out for more power - it's sort of working. He's on pace to hit over 50 doubles and fifteen homeruns. Not earth-shattering 2009 stuff, but the kind of numbers that would (should...) put him strongly in the MVP race on a better team. So as long as the other shoe isn't a plummeting average then I'm whatever with this.

But the rest of these assholes? I don't know. I have a hard time caring about Willingham's batting average. He'd obviously be better if he made more contact, but he's still getting on base almost 36% of the time and if you split the difference and turned a bunch of those walks into singles, then I doubt a BA/OBA line of .250/.360 really scores than many more runs for this team. Or, rather, not enough to make it that much better. Singles are better than walks, just not by nearly the amount that people think. Particularly when they're being hit by creaky robots like Willingham.

Anyhow, if I'm envisioning a .500 Twins team it would be nice to pretend that there was a playoff-calibre offense being held back by the rotation that's so bad that I don't even like talking about it in this enormous post. But that's not really the case right now. The only thing this team has going for it is lineup potential and shitty competition. If Detroit starts playing the way it should (actually, the way it has, just with more wins - they've been unlucky and when that stops and/or Leyland stops making relief decisions it's going to get ugly for the AL Central) then it wont really matter playoff wise, but I think we were all prepared for that.

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131. "BPro polls scouts on Buxton vs. Sano"
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Kind of a terrifying level of hype, but still a fun read.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=20812#commentMessage

June 4, 2013
Prospects Will Break Your Heart
Poll the Industry: Sano vs. Buxton
by Jason Parks

Debating the stature and status of prospects is my chosen field and, for many of us, our chosen passion. We compare and contrast at every developmental turn, putting our various forms of magnification to work with every box score, every scouting report, and every opportunity to get close to the action. Not only is the value of Player A as it relates to that of Player B a fascinating exercise for the novice and industry veteran alike, but the establishment of present and future value helps form the skeleton structure of this particular commodities market.

Last fall, the Baseball Prospectus prospect team engaged in our most fervent debate of the offseason, when Miguel Sano and Byron Buxton battled for prospect supremacy in a talent-rich Twins system. The brilliance of the debate was that a defendable case could be made for each, and at the time I teetered back and forth in my conclusions like a drunk walking the yellow stripe. Do you like the five-tool high school kid with up-the-middle skills and loudspeaker athleticism or one of the better power bats to come out of the Latin American market in recent memory, a potential middle-of-the-order power behemoth? Revisiting the debate is intoxicating and my equilibrium is once again on the tilt.

The 2013 season hasn’t made the debate any easier, as Buxton has exploded in his full-season debut and Sano is doing violent things to baseballs in the Florida State League. The preferred hypothetical when it comes to value assessment and debate is the “If you could only have one in your system, which one are you choosing and why?” At this point in the season, this is the best one-two prospect punch in the minors, with each moving up into the rarified air of the top 10 talents in the game. I decided to ask 20 industry sources—ranging from scouts on the ground to general managers—which member of the dynamic duo they would rather have in their own farm system. What was anticipated to be a tight race turned out to be a landslide. Buxton in a blowout.

Industry vote: 18-2 in favor of Buxton.

A few money quotes

“I would take Buxton (as I told you last year). He's about as close to Mike Trout as there is out there right now, a true five-tool CF with so many weapons and ways he can beat you. I like Sano, and think he will have big power, but I wonder about the body and his future position. Both are top-25 prospects, but you could make a case that Buxton is the best prospect in all of baseball.”

“I'd take Buxton. Middle of the field player.....impact on both sides of the ball. Will probably age better and have more longevity. I think Sano will have more immediate wow factor and contribute faster, but Buxton would win the long-term race. Hard to argue either way and I love the exercise, but I'm taking the athlete who contributes in every facet of the game. It would put me in the fetal position to pass on Sano though.....”

“Buxton; he’s a much safer bet to become an above average MLB player due to his well-rounded offensive skillset and likelihood that he’ll develop into a quality center fielder.”

“Sano’s raw power is tremendous and I like him a lot, but there’s a good chance you end up with a first baseman who hits .240 with 30+ HR annually. That kind of player is nice to have but not nearly as hard to find the Buxton-type player.”

“Buxton. The athleticism and the power/speed combo. More ways to impact game and I eventually see Sano as corner OFer.”

“Buxton is the best player I have ever scouted in the minors..”

“Sano could change the fortunes of a team, Buxton could change the fortunes of the league. I think he could be that special. Potential to be the best player in the game. Elite.”

“I’d take Buxton, but its weird because I just got through telling a story about a Sano batting practice display that still sends chills up my spine. His power is special. I’d give my firstborn to get Sano into this org. I wonder what I would have to give up to get Buxton?”

“The game is changing, so Sano’s power could make him one of the biggest impact bats in the league. I’m talking 40 bombs at his peak. But Buxton is going to give you an up the middle presence with a loud package of tools that could make him the top player in the game. We have an internal comp to Mike Trout, but the tools might be even louder at full potential. He’s the top prospect in the game.”

“Buxton is showing more game development than I thought he would have at this stage of the game. The run is elite; the arm is very strong and should keep improving once he learns how to command it; the hit is easy plus for me and could be 70; the raw power could end up just as extreme as Sano. He doesn’t even know how to hit for power yet. But the explosion is there. He’s a power bat down the line. He will be able to do it all. With his range in center, the glove, the arm, the feel for baseball and the dual threat hit/power, he’s Eric Davis with a better bat. I love Sano, don’t get me wrong. But Buxton could be the real package. It would be great for the game if Buxton becomes Buxton.”

You are free to form your own conclusions, but the quotes speak for themselves, especially that last one. I keep reading it over and over, as the line, “It would be great for the game if Buxton becomes Buxton” really speaks to me. What a great line, and it would be great for the game if another Eric Davis showed up, or another Trout, or even the first Buxton. It’s a cyclical game, and as much we all love the long ball, even at the expense of contact or fundamental play, the return of five-tool talent is the wave of the future, an all-around game that is more skill than show. This isn’t a knock on Sano or any other prospect of extreme (if not one-sided) value in the minors. But I look forward to the new wave of well rounded toolsheds that come complete with baseball instincts and feel that could one day consume the major-league landscape, the Profars, the Taverases, the Yeliches, the Correas, and the future face of that movement, Byron Buxton.

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I'm getting really excited for 2016 and The Buxton Ascent.

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133. "The Buxton Ascent"
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sounds like some sort of math/physics postulate. i like it.

and, i expect some serious MEJOR repercussions. he will not be disrespected like this.

thirdly, walleye, where you been at? twins rip 6/7. were you sitting on your lounger with your rally cap on, not willing to post until they had a free day?

finally, maybe, anyone else hear the wonderous stat that twins starters are allowing a .330+ OBA? i really think it's unfair that twins hitters don't get to hit against their own pitchers from time to time.

  

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>sounds like some sort of math/physics postulate. i like it.

Yeah. This has some upside to it.

>and, i expect some serious MEJOR repercussions. he will not be
>disrespected like this.

I agree. Eddie Rosario made the hot sheet last week too, and I don't think he'll let that stand, upstaged first on his own squad and then nationwide in a prospecting article.

>thirdly, walleye, where you been at? twins rip 6/7. were you
>sitting on your lounger with your rally cap on, not willing to
>post until they had a free day?

My wife and I are moving to a new apartment. And I've also been in Nashville and in Chicago in the past couple weeks. It's been weird. And it felt like every time I got my feet under me to post they were already halfway done with a series.

>finally, maybe, anyone else hear the wonderous stat that twins
>starters are allowing a .330+ OBA? i really think it's unfair
>that twins hitters don't get to hit against their own pitchers
>from time to time.

Worse, if I understand it correctly, it's suppressing their OPS+ because Target Field has suddenly become a slight hitters' park by virtue of the Twins arms. Not fair at all.

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137. "are the Walleyes ever not moving? "
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>My wife and I are moving to a new apartment. And I've also
>been in Nashville and in Chicago in the past couple weeks.
>It's been weird. And it felt like every time I got my feet
>under me to post they were already halfway done with a series.

given your profession, i can only imagine how many books you're toting from location to location. i wouldn't even unpack at this point. hope it goes smoothly, though.


>Worse, if I understand it correctly, it's suppressing their
>OPS+ because Target Field has suddenly become a slight
>hitters' park by virtue of the Twins arms. Not fair at all.

gross. i hadn't considered that, but target field has been full of pop lately ... and not just for the visiting team.

  

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138. "It's 1700 books. We counted."
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>>Worse, if I understand it correctly, it's suppressing their
>>OPS+ because Target Field has suddenly become a slight
>>hitters' park by virtue of the Twins arms. Not fair at all.
>
>gross. i hadn't considered that, but target field has been
>full of pop lately ... and not just for the visiting team.

Right? Chris Herrmann going opposite field yard was something you really only saw Jim Thome do a few years ago.

He's not really a prospect, per se. But Herrmann is a really interesting player that I want to see succeed. Given Gardy's weird hair-pulling over losing the DH if his catcher goes down, having Herrmann become a real boy would be nice. He's basically an athletic Doumit with more versatility (as in, he can actually play the positions that Doumit occupies) but less bat. But he could still have some bat. And some is good enough for a LF/RF/C.

Basically, Herrmann the big-leaguer is like having a 26 man roster.

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135. "You're gonna make me do the perfect world lineup again"
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1. Byron Buxton - CF
2. Eddie Rosario - 2B
3. Joe Mauer - C
4. Miguel MEJOR - 3B
5. Oswaldo Arcia - LF
6. Kennys Vargas/Adam Walker - DH
7. Aaron Hicks - RF
8. Daniel Santana - SS
9. Chris Parmelee - 1B

Or something. Vargas could play first and he has a ton of power. He's at Ft. Myers now and matching MEJOR homer-for-homer(ish). Scouts have some mixed opinions on whether his batspeed is sufficient for upper levels, but we'll see. And Walker has been getting some notes lately as having nearly as much power as MEJOR, but with even more contact concerns. The likelihood of them making a solid DH platoon isn't bad though.

Throw in the dream scenario of pitchers who can get people out...

SP - Alex Meyer
SP - Trevor May
SP - Kyle Gibson
SP - Jose Berrios

Exciting stuff.

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>3. Joe Mauer - C
do you think joe-joe-joey-shabadoo will still be behind the plate in 2016? given his current splits, i wonder if moving him to 1B/DH in the next few years would be the more likely scenario.

>4. Miguel MEJOR - 3B
him staying at 3B really makes this lineup WAAAYYY more sexy.

>5. Oswaldo Arcia - LF
>7. Aaron Hicks - RF
hicks in RF due to defensive abilities? i assume that is the reasoning, but want to be sure. i remember reading somewhere that arcia's arm, while not hicksian, can play in RF.

>Exciting stuff.
but i want 2016 NOW! (c) veruca salt

  

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>>3. Joe Mauer - C
>do you think joe-joe-joey-shabadoo will still be behind the
>plate in 2016? given his current splits, i wonder if moving
>him to 1B/DH in the next few years would be the more likely
>scenario.

Not really, but he's actually catching more frequently so far in 2013 than he did in 2012 and he's back to throwing out 30-40% of runners. Since catching is kind of the one thing he's actually explicitly passionate about, I think the deciding factor will be if he still wants to.

>>4. Miguel MEJOR - 3B
>him staying at 3B really makes this lineup WAAAYYY more sexy.

Defensive reports out of Ft. Myers are positive so far. His errors are way down and his plus arm means he's making some plays that scouts are actually noticing. His size might end up being the deciding factor, but this says good things about his willingness to work at the position and the Twins' ability to teach him.

>>5. Oswaldo Arcia - LF
>>7. Aaron Hicks - RF
>hicks in RF due to defensive abilities? i assume that is the
>reasoning, but want to be sure. i remember reading somewhere
>that arcia's arm, while not hicksian, can play in RF.

That is accurate. Arcia can definitely throw like a RFer, just probably not as much as Hicks. If it were up to me, the decision would actually put Hicks in LF because there's more space to patrol there. But Gardenhire hasn't seemed to use that as a basis for decision yet, so I don't really expect him to.

There's also a non-zero possibility that Hicks is the better centerfielder than Buxton in 2016 too. He'll only be 26 and one of the few nitpicks on Buxton (which basically amounts to "he's 19") is that he's still learning his routes as a professional centerfielder.

>>Exciting stuff.
>but i want 2016 NOW! (c) veruca salt

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140. "Soooo, what do you do with the fourth pick in a three player draft?"
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A consensus front two of Appel/Gray has become a consensus front three of Appel/Gray/Bryant. The quality of draft rumors has improved in proportion to draft coverage, it seems. The big surprises that always seem to occur at the front of the draft don't necessarily mean the rumors were false, but rather that they were overruled at the last second. Houston deciding to spread its bonus allotment and take Correa caught a lot of folks off guard. Ditto for Appel dropping.

This year, the last-minute rumor has been Colin Moran's consideration as a below-slot pick for 1-1. This story has been broken by a few writers, and the gist of it seems to be that the Astros like the idea of a steady, NCAA positional bat, probably think Moran can play third, want to spread their bonus allotment around to rebuild the system in depth, and have a habit of doing that established last year. This final reason is where I think people have maybe gone too far in considering this. That the Astros did something last year, when they had a bunch of picks and clearly liked Correa as much as Buxton and saw some guys sliding due to signability (McCullers and Ruiz), doesn't mean they'll follow the same strategy this year.

Still, it's worth keeping in mind for a Twins fan because if somebody like Moran breaks up the big three, that means one of them falls to the Twins.

The interesting thing is that the Twins have been more firmly tied to an individual name than I can ever remember - Texas prep righthander Kohl Stewart.

Here's BA's writeup on Stewart:

"A premium football recruit as a quarterback, Stewart passed for 8,803 yards and 87 touchdowns in three high school seasons before committing to play two sports at Texas A&M. It's unlikely he'll ever play for the Aggies because he's the top high school pitcher in the draft. He may not get the No. 1 overall pick buzz of righthanders Jonathan Gray (Oklahoma) and Mark Appel (Stanford), but one scouting director said, "Stewart's pure stuff is as good as theirs, and he's more athletic than they are." Scouts love the 6-foot-3, 190-pounder's arsenal, athleticism and competitiveness. They say that he has better present stuff than Jameson Taillon did when the Pirates took the suburban Houston righthander No. 2 overall in 2010. Stewart has boosted his fastball from 88-93 mph last summer to 91-96 for much of the spring, though his velocity tails off at times in the later innings. His life and command with his heater make it even more dominating, but his best offering is a power mid-80s slider with tilt. He has improved his curveball and shows feel for his changeup, and he'll display four above-average big league pitches at times. He has a clean delivery and should get even better once he concentrates solely on baseball. Stewart has been limited at times this spring because of minor shoulder (a carryover from football), hamstring and thumb ailments, but none is a major concern. Neither is his signability, because he'll get picked early enough to be paid handsomely and teams don't believe he'll go to Texas A&M to sit behind reigning Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Manziel. Some clubs could shy away from Stewart because he's a Type 1 diabetic, though Brandon Morrow went fifth overall in 2006 with the same condition. Stewart should go in the same range this June."

His signability has been widely discussed, but mostly for the purpose of amateurs like me pretending to be smart. He's not turning down the #4 slot money to sit on the bench at A&M.

The Twins rather notoriously avoid prep arms early in the draft, but they like athletes and they know they need pitching. Drafting for need at #4 is never a good idea, but Stewart has probably a stronger argument for best player available than any other candidates *unless* the above situation with Moran occurs. Still, guys like Keith Law are reporting that the Twins are deep on Stewart, so a shakeup at the top might not affect them.

If that's the case, it might be more like the 2012 Astros than people are projecting the 2013 Astros to be. The Twins don't have a ton of picks, but there could be some interesting guys slide to the later rounds that could benefit the Twins if they saved some cash on Stewart.

Local, toolsy outfielder Ryan Boldt was considered a mid-first rounder until an injury ended his season and left scouts to speculate on the ability of a cold-weather prep player based on some early workouts. The Twins love local and toolsy.

There are also a bunch of interesting prep catchers available, and a better crop than usual of local arms.

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141. "For what it's worth, here are the top-three again from BA"
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I think that, with these three, there's no need to try and balance out safety and upside. All three have greater or equal upside to Kohl Stewart and are probably safer given their relative experience. If one of them fell to the Twins, I'd rather see that pick than Stewart, but I wont kick myself about it. The Twins going against type and taking a potential ace in a prep righthander is more of what the organization needs.

Oklahoma University RHP Jonathan Gray:
Gray's metamorphosis from a live-armed but chubby high schooler to a potential No. 1 overall choice is reminiscent of Stephen Strasburg's. His stuff calls to mind Gerrit Cole, another top overall pick. After maxing out at 94 mph in high school, he now works comfortably at 94-97 and can hit 100 mph while looking like he's just playing catch. Gray's fastball also features heavy life. He shows the ability to dial it down to 92-94 in the middle innings before turning it back up toward the end of games, a la Justin Verlander. He has refined his slider into a wipeout pitch with depth and bite, and he can make hitters look silly with an improved changeup that bottoms out at the plate. Gray has firmed up his frame to a solid 6-foot-4 and 239 pounds, and he has his delivery and his pitches more under control than ever.

Stanford University RHP Mark Appel: He's 6-foot-5 and 215 pounds with a clean delivery, and he is a solid athlete who played basketball in high school. Appel's fastball sits in the mid-90s and gets as high as 98 mph, and he holds his velocity deep into games. His slider is a plus pitch that generates swings and misses with its sharp, late break. Under Stanford pitching coach Rusty Filter--who was Stephen Strasburg's pitching coach at San Diego State--Appel has gotten a little more downhill with his fastball and has improved his changeup as a senior, and it should be at least an average third offering.

University of San Diego 3B/OF Kris Bryant: He posted a 1.081 OPS and nine homers as a freshmen, then a 1.154 OPS and 14 long balls as a sophomore, but he has taken his game to new heights as a junior, posting a 1.357 OPS and 25 home runs (seven more than any other Division I player) through 49 games. Opponents have pitched him very carefully, but he has remained patient, posting a 56-31 walk-strikeout mark. Bryant's best tool is his plus-plus righthanded power, allowing him to launch towering shots over the light standard in left field or hit balls over the fence to the opposite field. He has adopted a wider base and a simpler approach at the plate this year, and he has impressed scouts with his ability to turn on inside fastballs or go the other way with sliders over the outer half. His plate discipline and ability to consistently barrel up a variety of pitches make him a safe bet to be at least an average hitter, and many scouts think he'll be better than that. Bryant's arm gives him another above-average tool. His athleticism gives him at least a chance to stick at third, although he'll need plenty more repetitions to master the position. Some scouts project him as a prototypical right fielder. He has average speed and can be faster under way, and he has shown good instincts in right and center.

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142. "Oh, and cheers to the return of Sam "Fucking" Deduno"
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I may grow tired of watching him pitch eventually, but I will never grow tired of hearing Ryan Doumit* describing his fastball as "a 91mph knuckleball".

*who, for context, has been repeatedly dinged as the worst pitch-framer in baseball by a wide margin.

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143. "the change our rotation needed"
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in other news, kyle perkins leads our team in strikeouts. that's not awesome.

maybe mr. deduno can change that?

  

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144. "In total?"
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Jesus. The clone army has instituted martial law.

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145. "perkins has 34"
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next closest is ... breath ... correia at 29.

burton is next with 28.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIN/2013.shtml

i mean, it's not white sox offense infamous, but this is not a good trend to be highlighting.

  

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And there's so little upside there. Ugh.

It's why I like Sam Fucking Deduno. He can fail and still represent a moment where the Twins were willing to fail big instead of shoot low and still get terrible results.

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147. "Stewart/Eades... Twins load up on pitching early"
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We talked about Stewart above. High school pitchers have been traditionally associated with greater upside and greater risk, but the second half of that equation is changing with more specialized attention given to players at a younger age. Somebody, somewhere linked a study that the bust rate for HS arms is actually pretty much the same as NCAA arms. So there you go.

Stewart has two plus pitches right now, a fastball and a slider. He's a great athlete who hasn't yet really focused on baseball. Apparently, some people think his nascent curveball can rival his slider pretty soon. Finding a changeup will be key, though that's not particularly common in high school righties.

Eades is a more traditional Twins pick in the sense that he's an NCAA seasoned pitcher from a big program, LSU. It sounds like he's got a bit more stuff than a typical clone army member, though it comes freighted with high school labrum surgery - which is scary. So, some more upside with him, but possibly real injury worry. LEN3 said the Twins were fine with his medical reports but... 2011 happened, so whatever on that.

Here's BA:

Eades doesn't pitch Fridays like most potential college first-round picks, but that's more a testament to sophomore righthander Aaron Nola, a potential top 10 pick in 2014. Scouts are watching to see if Eades loses steam down the stretch as he did last season, and they've been watching Eades for a while. He was hitting 94 mph as a 16-year-old, then injured his shoulder when he was a prep junior. He had labrum surgery and missed his senior season but has been healthy all three years at Louisiana State. He has an athletic 6-foot-3, 198-pound frame and looks the part of a frontline starter, running his four-seamer up to 90-95 mph and adding a two-seamer this year to get more early-count contact. He's honed his breaking ball into a power curveball that scrapes the low 80s, and has improved his changeup under the tutelage of pitching coach Alan Dunn, a longtime pro pitching coach. Eades grades out better than he's performed, though he has improved his strikeout rate from 6.0 strikeouts per nine innings to 8 K/9 IP as a junior. Eades tends to miss armside and high when he leaks out on his front side or gets fatigued, but his strong work ethic has reduced that in 2013. He slots into the 20-40 range on most teams' draft boards but could go higher with a strong finish.

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148. "Aaaaaand more pitching"
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I love the Stewart and Eades picks. Hate the Stuart Turner pick. Is plus defensive catching really such a big deal that it needs to be acquired in the third round? I'm sure a review of #78 overall picks will reveal a grand total of, like, 2.4 WAR among forty-odd players. But still. Give me upside or give me death here.

Back to the good, I liked the sound of Stephen Gonsalves when we first started talking about this draft. 6'5" lefties with low-90s stuff don't grow on trees, and folks like his changeup already. There's a lot to try and project, but our quite-good system is desperately low on lefty starting candidates so this is a good pick here.

Aaron Siegers is interesting. At 6'10" I have to hope that he makes it and we can pair him with Alex Meyer in the rotation so we can have the best basketball team among MLB starters.

Navaretto is okay to me too. This was a curiously strong class in prep catching so it would have been weird to not take one. Though with Chris Herrmann looking like an MLB bench player and Josmil Pinto kind of breaking out in AA, maybe it's not as much of a position of need as it initially seems.

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149. "where, oh where are the middle infield prospects? "
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or do we just assume we can convert toolsy OFs to 2b every time?

  

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150. "This year was famously short on them"
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Keith Law joked that after the White Sox 1st round pick, the analysts might as well just pack it in because the draft was out of shortstops.

Secondbasemen are a less drafted than created. Shortstops (and centerfielders, in the case of our man Rosario - as you point out) move there and maybe NCAA talents like Pedroia and Kinsler were already there.

But yeah, that's emerging as another system weakness. Jorge Polanco went from slick fielding shortstop prospect who might not hit to a guy who can rather hit but wont stick at shortstop. I'm not sure how that happened, but whatever. Niko Goodrum is toolsy as hell, can draw a walk, and can definitely play short, but his father is like seven feet tall and a solid 300 pounds so nobody's really holding their breath. And Daniel Santana is yet another try at the "can hit almost everything, swings at literally everything" approach. So we'll see.

This is turning out to be a weird start to the decade. It'd be kind of odd if the Twins clawed their way back to respectability while drafting high in two of the weakest drafts in recent memory. Buxton was delightfully lucky, but think of the Nats adding Strasburg and Harper in consecutive years. That's ... kind of nuts.

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151. "Stewart sounding signable, Eades on ESPN2 today"
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His father was making noise on the local news about how excited he was to start a pro career apparently. That's good news. The only thing I liked about the new draft regulations in the last CBA was the earlier signing deadline, so getting Stewart on a pro mound as early as possible is a good way to get him moving. Berrios is already hip-deep in a full season league, which would be an ideal path for Stewart.

Ryan Eades is starting for LSU today. Game is at six on ESPN2, I think. Get your scout on.

I haven't seen any experts try to reckon out a new Twins top ten, but I'm guessing Stewart is pretty likely to slot right behind Sano/Buxton with Hicks already graduated and Arcia/Gibson likely to graduate this year. Rosario is putting up one of the quieter great seasons in the minors this year at .332/.372/.520. If he stays there and scouts start to turn in positive reports on his defense (notably, Jason Parks of BPro is already saying it might not matter... he's an MLB second baseman because "he fucking hits") then it's possible he could challenge Stewart. That's a lot of departure from the top-10, but for the good reason of guys becoming MLBers. So, let's take a try?

1. Sano
2. Buxton
3. Stewart
4. Rosario
5. Meyer

That's a really strong top five if those guys stay healthy. I think all are good top-100 candidates. After that, we've got some murkiness from BA's 2013 list.

Bard and Kepler have yet to debut. I have no idea how close either of them are, but both probably need to show up in full-season leagues to make the list again. Berrios has been up and down in Cedar Rapids, which is fine for a pitcher his age but he grabbed the #6 spot based on an impressive statistical profile. He's sporting a pretty terrific 50:12 K:BB rate in 42 innings though, and he's apparently been hit hard by defensive problems behind him. A 2.35 FIP backs that up. Somebody who watched Cedar Rapids' last game noted some bad body language on the mound when it came to defensive lapses behind him. The Twins are going to crack down on that fast. No more Kyle Lohse. In any case, I think he's probably #6, but Eades, Baxendale and Bard could challenge with strong seasons because of their higher floor.

For our man Drizzit, middle infield remains a problem. Danny Santana has been "meh" in his AA test. He's a tough strikeout but just swings too goddamn much with only FIVE walks so far this season. I suppose if he turns into a top-shelf defender at short then we can wishcast some of that contact rate (he is hitting .290, after all) into a viable MLBer but nothing too exciting.

I'm more interested in the chance that Niko Goodrum could make an appearance. He strikes out too much, but he's a switch hitter and has a nice, strong walk rate in his full-season debut. At 6'3" and 24 out of 55 hits in 2012 going for extra bases, there's projectible power there too. Raw, but if he stops growing he's a real, live shortstop with a chance to do some interesting stuff instead of just passably occupy the position.

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152. "Miguel MEJOR promoted to AA New Britain"
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This is it. It might be rough for awhile as Parks indicates, but he's proven capable of making adjustments before and reports on his defense continue to be on the right side of "good enough".

What the BPro swipe omits is that he's being promoted with Eddie Rosario - another aggressive bump for a player that's been almost as impressive as Sano for three straight levels whilst learning a new position. Once-and-maybe-future prospect Angel Morales will be joining them. It would be reasonable to wonder at this point if Buxton could be making the move to Ft. Myers.

From BPro:

Miguel Sano, 3B, Twins (Double-A New Britain)

Sano has been getting column inches since his amateur days, and thanks to a breakout spring, the press love shall continue. We all know that Sano has some of the best raw power in the minors, with plenty of strength built into a leveraged swing with loft. He was born to hit the ball a long way, and so far in 2013 he’s put 16 balls into Florida State League seats. The 20-year-old takes the headlining spot in this week’s Ten Pack because of his upcoming promotion to the Double-A level, where the precious talent will face his biggest professional challenge. The swing has some length, and his willingness to expand his zone makes him vulnerable to quality secondary offerings and pitchers with a plan. Double-A arms are better equipped to exploit such weaknesses, and if Sano is slow to make the adjustment (shortening up, looking to go the other way, not selling out for power), his on-the-field production could take a step back before it inevitably takes another step forward. –Jason Parks

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154. "i am crossing my fingers against plate setback bleeding into "
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fielding setback causing the unfortunate knee-jerk of moving him to OF. ugh.

good luck and god's speed to him, though. the ball will fly a little better in new britain.

  

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156. "Me too"
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>fielding setback causing the unfortunate knee-jerk of moving
>him to OF. ugh.

I was pleased to recall from another article that Molitor is a roving instructor. I assume he's following both Rosario and Sano to New Britain to make sure that this precisely doesn't happen.

>good luck and god's speed to him, though. the ball will fly a
>little better in new britain.

That second part is definitely true as soon as he adjusts to the steady diet of non-straight stuff they're going to feed him. That happened in Beloit last year and resulted in a lengthy lull that he did snap out of with an increased willingness to just take walks. These breaking pitches will be better in every way, but if the approach sticks he's got a chance.

This has suddenly become a watchable affiliate now, with at least four (Sano, Rosario, Meyer, and Santana) of the Twins top-10 and possibly a fifth with Trevor May.

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153. "I was at both games yesterday"
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I don't recall ever watching that much live baseball in one day. A Twins win would have made it less exhausting.

I thought that Diamond deserved a better outcome than he got, and that perhaps a flip of the game one and game two lineups might have had a better outcome. Or not.

Chris Herrmann had a nice day. Watching Deduno pitch was weird. He has more command of his secondary stuff than his fastball, but those other pitches aren't particularly good. The idea that a pitcher needs to pitch off of his fastball really has heightened stakes with him on the mound. What was crazy was that he couldn't even find the catcher, let alone the plate, on his warmup throws during every single inning break. I think he dirted like 7/8th of his pitches.

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155. "MiLB: Meyer tinkers with delivery, strikes out everybody"
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Click through to the article. There's video of a recent start against Harrisburg and that knucklecurve is... not fair. He floated a few decent changeups in there too, including to a righty once or twice. Sticking as a starter will require health, finding the plate reliably with that fastball, and a simple adequate change-up.

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130602&content_id=49355596&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb

By Robert Emrich / Special to MLB.com
Alex Meyer had been struggling to find his way into the win column. After making some adjustments between starts, he appears to be back on course.

The Twins' No. 3 prospect recorded a season-high 10 strikeouts and gave up a run on two hits over 6 1/3 innings Saturday night as Double-A New Britain edged Bowie, 4-3.

Meyer (3-3) had trouble with just one batter -- Brandon Waring. The veteran first baseman led off the second with a single and hit a solo homer in the fourth. The 23-year-old right-hander also issued two walks -- one to Waring -- and faced three batters over the minimum.

"It was good to finally get out there and get a good one going tonight," said Meyer, the 23rd overall pick in the 2011 Draft. "It was good. I was finally able to go out there tonight and throw three pitches and keep them off-balance.

"My catcher, Josmil Pinto, we were on the same page the whole night, which made it a lot easier. It was just a good night and it was good to go out there and get a win."

The 23-year-old right-hander had lost three straight decisions since beating New Hampshire on April 25. In his last two starts, he'd given up nine runs on eight hits and seven walks over 11 2/3 frames. Meyer, who throws a fastball, knuckle-curve and circle changeup, had spent the past week tinkering with his delivery.

"I had a couple of mechanical adjustments to work on this week and trying to fix a couple of things," he said. "Something throughout my whole career I've had to work on is holding on to my front side. It's something that was addressed this week. They really want me to work on it, so I got back into doing that.

"I felt like I was more in control out there , I felt like my delivery was more clean and crisp. I felt like I was able to repeat my delivery."

Meyer (3-3) lowered his ERA to 3.69 ERA in 11 starts and ranks second in the Eastern League with 73 strikeouts in 61 innings. In a season that's featured its ups and downs, it's easy to single out Saturday's outing.

"I would say it was one of the best ones," MLB.com's No. 38 overall prospect said. "I had a good one back against the Red Sox , where I gave up a hit in six inning, but I felt like I commanded the ball a whole lot better. I had the two walks, but they were 3-2 , so I still felt in control the whole night.

"I was able to work both sides of the plate. When you're able to throw three pitches, I think it makes it a whole lot tougher on the hitter."

Blake Martin followed Meyer and was charged with two runs on two hits in one inning. A.J. Achter pitched around two hits over the final 1 2/3 frames for his third save.

Danny Santana went 2-for-4 with two RBIs and two stolen bases, while Daniel Ortiz scored twice for New Britain.

Robert Emrich is a contributor to MLB.com. Follow him on Twitter @RobertEmrich. This story was not subject to the approval of the National Association of Professional Baseball Leagues or its clubs.

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157. "Byron Buxton played on TV and this happened"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PDaiBZz0WM

He also hit a single, double, and a triple that the centerfielder apparently cut off before it could run the gap - but Buxton made it to third anyhow. Speed kills, apparently.

Alex Meyer will miss his next start with a sore shoulder. At least the good news came first.

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158. "fort meyers soon? "
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they were discussing this on KFAN this morning and byron walked/strolled into his double. TK was in the booth and said the manager would be on him about that. next at bat, triple without the ball reaching the wall ... like, "was that what you wanted, coach?"

guess i don't see what he really needs to learn at low-A still. the kids 18? 19? i get it, but lets challenge him a bit.

  

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159. "Apparently, Terry Ryan hinted that was coming"
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>they were discussing this on KFAN this morning and byron
>walked/strolled into his double. TK was in the booth and said
>the manager would be on him about that. next at bat, triple
>without the ball reaching the wall ... like, "was that what
>you wanted, coach?"

Ha. Nice. If his whole MiLB career is fixing the stuff that TK nitpicks, he'll be in good shape. Or exhausted.

>guess i don't see what he really needs to learn at low-A
>still. the kids 18? 19? i get it, but lets challenge him a
>bit.

So, this is a largely stupid reason except that it probably isn't a matter of much more than a few days. But the story is that Cedar Rapids clinching a playoff spot (Midwest League gives out playoff spots for the first half of the season and the second half of the season) is of some importance to the Twins. This is supported by the fact that the Sano/Rosario/Morales promotions occurred right after Ft. Myers clinched a spot in the FSL playoffs.

Anyhow, Morales moving up from Ft. Myers left a hole in CF there that hasn't really been filled yet. So apparently when CR clinches, Buxton (and maybe others, but he's the obvious candidate) will get a bump to high-A ball and the more challenging FSL.

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160. "Do we *want* to dial back the Buxton hype?"
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I mean, stuff happens. Prospects don't pan out. But then JJ Cooper, esteemed Baseball America writer went on a Buxton jag on twitter.

In order:

JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 9 Jun
I have now seen Buxton bat three times. He's 0-for-0 with three walks. Doesn't swing at balls out of the zone. #pleasethrowhimastrike

JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 10 Jun
Jeimer Candelario lines a clear double in the lcf power alley. Scratch that. Buxton runs it down and makes it look easy. Insane range.

JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 10 Jun
Ok buxton just topped his first great catch with an indescribable diving catch near 407 sign in lcf. should be on espn/mlb tonight

JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 23h
Buxton pulls a 93 mph Pierce Johnson fastball for a bases clearing double. I need a cigarette and I don't smoke.

JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 21h
I normally have no way to answer "when is X" being promoted questions. But I'll say this Byron Buxton is done with the MWL.

JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 21h
He may be here through the All-Star Game next week, but he is simply too advanced for the opponents he's facing.

JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 17h
Hamilton significantly faster. But Buxton is an 80 RT @MattErskine: How does the speed of @OfficialBuck103 compare to that of @b_ham_3 ?

JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 15h
OK, I'm not done gushing about Buxton. He robbed two other hits today as well. Took away potential doubles from Candelario and Almora.

JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 15h
Should make clear. Buxton is the best teenager prospect I've seen in person. Haven't seen everyone (missed Harper/Trout).

JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 15h
Best teenager I saw before this was seeing Andruw Jones as a 17/18 year-old for 60+ games in 1995. Was BA Minors POY that year.

JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 15h
To wrap up my Buxton stuff for the night (maybe). Best teenage prospect I've ever seen. I've been doing this nearly 20 years. #notascout

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161. "jj cooper = latest acolyte of The Buxton Ascent"
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i'm looking forward to his move to high-A.

  

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163. "Some trademark Twins . . . speed?"
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165. ""Jesus" @ Mike Pelfrey"
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Twenty one outs. Seventeen by strikeout or grounder?

More of that, please.

Nice night for Ossssswaldo Arcia too.

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166. "I think Mauer's K% is eeking downward"
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He's having a kind of fascinating season, with a .327/.412/.492 line that looks pretty distinctly Mauer-ian, except with 20+ additional points of SLG. Whether an increased strikeout rate is a sign of trouble in the future or not,* it's clear that Mauer has been:

a)selling out a bit for power
b)actually succeeding at hitting for more power

What's odd is that we're not really looking at a big homerun spike. If he hits fifteen, that would be his 2nd highest total of his career, but not enough for us to say "oh, that's something new". 2009 was a clear oddity in the power department, but I maintain that the move to the new park has done more to keep his liners in the building than anything structural about his game. About 34% of his hits have gone for extra bases this season, higher than his lifetime mark of 29%.

It'd be rather cool if he settles into a synthesis whereby this power increase sticks, but the strikeouts return to normal levels and we have the same old Mauer spraying linedrives all over the park, but with isoP numbers more like 20009 than any year before or since.

*added strikeouts and homers has been referred to as the development of "old player skillset" but that doesn't quite describe Mauer. I'm a bit more comfortable finding signs of decline in new platoon issues, which Mauer isn't exhibiting, actually hitting LHP better this year. Justin Morneau's .282/.320/.338 line against lefties is what it looks like for a player getting old fast.

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167. "Kohl Stewart signs at slot"
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No word on assignment. 21 of the first 25 picks have signed, with CWS guys like Eades and Slegers dragging due to their seasons continuing.

Twins used some over-slot money on California prep lefty Stephen Gonsalves, who was regarded as a pretty tough sign after entering 2013 as one of the top prep arms and pitching rather poorly. Rebuilding his draft value in college might have been his aim, but the Twins landed him.

I'm also excited about Brian Navaretto, a prep catcher from Florida.

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168. "Looking at the calendar, it's time to talk trade options"
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I'm not sure what an ideal situation would be for a team that we knew would be bad is, but we may not be far from it. The Twins are competitive and playing like a club worth watching from time to time. I think the one thing that has rather soured, weirdly considering the W/L situation, is off-season changes to the big club. Hicks has been bad. Worley and Pelfrey have been terrible. Correia's been better than expected without doing anything particularly well, which I refuse to be comfortable with.

Then there's the matter of mid-season trade chips, which leave us in a worse position than I wanted. I think it's clear the Twins aren't in a position to deal for a shot at the 2013 AL Central, even if we're closer than we should be. The Tigers are outplaying the division badly and are still considerably better than they look.

Our three main trade chips should have been Morneau, Willingham, and Perkins. Morneau's power loss has been big trouble, and teams aren't going to cough up much for a pricey half-season of a Doug Mientkiewicz impersonation. I'm fine with Willingham drawing walks instead of hitting singles, but .217 batting average is near disaster point for teams that will want somebody who can provide middle of the order *hits*.

And the closer market always confounds me, if only because the last team I remember badly overpaying for one is the Twins and we can't trade Perkins to ourselves. The Red Sox and Tigers are contenders who need a closer, though more could shake out before the deadline. The Red Sox have some internal candidates that they should be stubborn enough to keep pushing. It's a great system there right now, but I don't see them coughing up a major part for a lefthanded closer to pitch in that park without thoroughly exhausting the guys already on the roster. Detroit's system is pretty terrible right now, but they have a history of not being afraid to pay for proven talent. The in-division thing is a pain, but if they have the best offer then... whatever.

I guess we'll see. Arizona may be a spot to keep an eye on.

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171. "Right on time, STrib asks about the buyer/seller question"
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I'm not even linking. The answer is "seller". That this team resembles a competitive club in late June if you stand at the right angle and squint is a massive achievement by Ryan and Gardenhire. But they're still in FOURTH PLACE IN THE AL CENTRAL. There should be some rule in place that no team behind the Royals should ever "buy" in a playoff race.

Now there is. I'm calling it Walleye's Midseason Trade Principle. If your record is worse than Kansas City's, then you have no business acquiring talent for a playoff push. For the moment, we'll ignore the fact that I believe this principle would have forbidden the fairly successful Shannon Stewart trade.

But yeah, the organization is in a good place and a nigh-adequate big league squad is sort of gravy.

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175. "gleeman and the geek rambled about this on sunday"
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their conversation was cyclical, but two points stood out:

1. it's kind of silly for the twins FO to still be banging the "we're still in this drum" at this point in the year and with the bodies we have on the roster. i'm unsure whether it's more a nod to the clubhouse to keep veterans happy, but, if the players need this kind of unrealistic story in the press to stay positive ... ugh.

2. we have absolutely nothing of value right now. you mentioned this earlier or later in this last set of updates -- ripped through these this morning after returning from an overseas trip. willingham isn't showing the RH power bat we had last year nor is morneau sniffing his once lofty MVP numbers. you mentioned perkins as a possibility, but you also mentioned the closer market being stupid, so i'll leave that. G&tG mentioned some article where plouffe was tossed around as possible trade bait. his numbers suggest a "perfectly adequate" 3B ... but i don't like this either. have him keep the sport warm for MEJOR and provide one of the only RH bats in our lineup.

it's a sad day when trevor plouffe is profiling as your most dangerous RH bat.

  

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176. "One of the starters rounding into "form" is probably our best look"
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Nolasco and Garza are going to get the real hauls back in return, but they'll chum the water with more contending teams. If we can get a month of not-sucking from Correia or Pelfrey then I could see getting something back that was low-level but with upside. Particularly Pelfrey, who is at least comprehensible in a playoff rotation at his best.

This would also require a boldness I'm not sure the front office presently has, in light of your point about the "we're still in this" fib. We can form a more interesting rotation without Correia and Pelfrey, and possibly a better one if we let Gibson and THE MOST EQUAL VANIMAL hack it out at the MLB level. But "rotation predictability" is probably written in an ancient, demonic language on some seal in the team's headquarters upon which every employee is required to take a blood oath.

Plouffe is, as you say, tough. With confidence that Sano will be great, I am not confident that there wont be warts. Plouffe becoming tradeable makes him more desirable as the guy who we want to scream about blocking Sano. If this is who he is (and I'm fine with imagining that since we're not presently in the midst of some five-homers-in-a-week outburst from him) then this is somebody who we will have multiple opportunities to trade.

edit: I also think we're potentially overlooking the fact that Ryan Doumit's extension this past winter makes him more, rather than less, tradeable. If he keeps hitting he could be worth something.

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179. "while doumit is tradeable"
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>edit: I also think we're potentially overlooking the fact that
>Ryan Doumit's extension this past winter makes him more,
>rather than less, tradeable. If he keeps hitting he could be
>worth something.

i feel his ability to give mauer a break behind the plate -- despite his defensive "abilities" -- makes him far more valuable to the twins than another team.

still, "everybody has a price" (c) the million dollar man.

  

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180. "Agreed, that's been a really valuable arrangement"
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I'm hopeful that Herrmann can soon enough provide a similar aggregate value, but I doubt he'll hit enough for the same C/DH shape that has managed to both help Mauer keep his legs under him and provided an actual DH-worthy bat when Mauer's behind the plate.

I think that 2015 is the real window of Herrmann's usefulness if it is to actually occur. Ideally, we'll have more bats than we have off-days and Herrmann's better-than-backup-catcher-grade bat and ability to back up pretty passably in the outfield becomes the new Doumit.

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169. "Why isn't Brian Dozier better?"
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I'm not expecting an All-Star, but he was an adequate shortstop who is more than sufficiently tooled for his present 2B assignment. He made great contact as an MiLBer until his K% rocketed as a big leaguer.

Ordinarily, this is the point where I offer an answer but I don't really have one. Watching a replay of his homer last night provoked the question, because he turned on a 97mph fastball from a pretty good pitcher like it was absolutely nothing. He's at .299/.390/.522 line the last month with a noticably diminished K%. Maybe that's the key?

I don't know. Fangraphs likes his defense so far and he's on track to be a 2 WAR player without his bat truly even heating up. That's sort of what I expected, I guess. But there are flashes where it looks like he could give us something in the .280/.350/.420 range.

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170. "Miguel MEJOR's first AA homerun - video"
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http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=28193815&sid=milb

He's struggled a bit there for basehits, but he's working through the slump with patience. Six walks in 24 plate appearances. It seems clear the book on him arrived in Eastern League pitchers' hands as soon as he got off the plane: don't throw him fastballs like the one in the video. He'll need to wait things out before he can see more pitches like that, but that's why walks are important.

Rosario continues to hit like it's the only thing his hands know how to do. .300/.391/.350. He's turning into a fascinating prospect.

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172. "Gibson to debut, Buxton to Ft. Myers, Sano struggles/homers"
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Gibson is debuting on Saturday. There was some teeth-gnashing when Pedro Hernandez got the call this weekend instead of him, but whatever the reason (something something about rest days, if I recall) it's fixed now. Kyle Gibson, MLB pitcher.

Buxton will start in centerfield for the Miracle on Tuesday.

Sano's had a rough two weeks in AA, but it's not been without its moments. He's striking out too much, which he already did in Ft. Myers, but it seems like the approach is intact: 8 walks in 43 plate appearances. He's also hit two homers and a triple. The stitches are going to show for a little while at least, but it's not all bad.

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173. "BPro's mid-season top fifty prospects: Buxton, MEJOR, Meyer"
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It's on. Please note the accelerated timeline the article offers for Buxton. From Jason Parks:

#1 CF Byron Buxton (Twins)

Placement on Pre-Season 101: #8

Current MiLB Level/Affiliate: High-A Ft. Myers

Reason for Inclusion in Top 10: Buxton has the most exciting tool collection in the minors, which is why he ranks ahead of Taveras as the premier prospect in the game. The beauty of Buxton is the impact potential he has in all phases of the game, as the 19-year-old can go 1-for-5 at the plate but still patrol big swaths of real estate in center field and use his elite speed as a weapon on the bases. One scout source suggested his floor was Torii Hunter, which should be some indication just how high the ultimate ceiling could be. This is a special talent. You buy tickets to watch this kid play.

Prospect Trajectory: Holding steady; likely to remain top prospect in the game.

Major League ETA: 2014

#6 3B Miguel Sano (Twins)

Placement on Pre-Season 101: #21

Current MiLB level/Affiliate: Double-A New Britain

Reason for Inclusion in Top 10: Sano has been climbing up prospect lists since he first signed with the Twins as a 16-year-old, and after an offensive explosion in the Florida State League, the 20-year-old is now among the top prospects in the game. The backbone of his game is the enormous raw power, which most scouts feel comfortable throwing an elite grade on. The hit tool is still a question mark, as is his defensive profile, but both the bat and the glove have received positive reviews in 2013, a good sign that Sano might offer more than just prodigious power.

Prospect Trajectory: Down; the Double-A test is upon Sano, and given his age and exploitable weaknesses at the plate, his stock could slip if he struggles to make consistent contact. Given his offensive potential and adjustment potential, he isn’t likely to fall too far down the list.

Major League ETA: 2014

#44 RHP Alex Meyer (Twins)

Placement on Pre-Season 101: #88

Current MiLB Level/Affiliate: Double-A New Britain

Prospect Trajectory: Up; most likely still an underrated prospect; questions about ultimate role add risk to a higher ranking; has no. 2 starter upside and a floor of a late-innings bullpen arm; strong second half and improved command could lead to huge offseason jump up the list.

Major League ETA: 2014

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174. "Kepler, Minier make 2013 debuts/Short-season news"
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After staying behind in extended spring dealing with a mysterious elbow situation that kept him from playing the outfield, Kepler is in Cedar Rapids for his full-season debut. After the weekend, he's at .278/.350/.444. I could see the Twins moving him quickly if his mature approach continues to play against full-season competition.

Amaurys Minier is the next name we may need to become familiar with. I can't recall the bonus total exactly, but I'm pretty sure he's only behind Sano among Dominican signees for the Twins. He's another big 3B, but with less giant-ness than Sano and fewer questions about his future position. Good power. Good hit. .364/.500/.909 over the weekend. He's only seventeen. Keep an eye out.

For once, the E-Town team is packed with pitching instead of hitting. Guys to watch include 19 year old righthander Felix Jorge, Minnesotan lefty Austin Malinowski, Kuo Hua Lo, and Yorman Landa.

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177. "KFFL: Alex Meyer MRI returns clean"
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Good news. Trevor May has strung together a pair of pretty good starts too. Combined with the recent draft, Berrios' solid-to-strong work in Cedar Rapids, and some decent bullpen sleepers, we could start to see a better rounded farm system emerge over the next nine months or so.

Twins | Alex Meyer dodges bullet

Minnesota Twins P Alex Meyer (shoulder) had an MRI on his right shoulder Tuesday, June 11, and the test showed no structural damage, according to general manager Terry Ryan. Meyer remains on the 7-day disabled list for Double-A New Britain.

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=857034-twins-alex-meyer-dodges-bullet#ixzz2XKlrBR7x

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178. "Giancarlo Stanton's first go-round with AA"
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.231/.311/.455 with 99 strikeouts and 31 walks in 341 plate appearances.

I'm just going to leave this here as we try to get a handle on Miguel Sano's learning curve in New Britain.

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181. "I could watch Mauer knock around mid-rotation righties endlessly"
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It's just fun. Mauer vs. Slowey. You already know what's going to happen. Sadly, the Twins rotation vs. any MLB lineup has virtually the same level of certainty. I hope Kyle Gibson gives us reason to be excited on Saturday. He's not going to turn around the season himself, or even necessarily be a net improvement over whoever he's replacing this time (DeVries, Hernandez, Hendriks have all occupied the same spot but who does it properly belong to?) but semi-regular glimpses of future rotation competence just sounds really nice right now.

In other news, Sano had three hits in a doubleheader yesterday and none of them were singles. A homer, double, and triple. I think he walked too. up to .191/.305/.489.

Ideally, over the next couple weeks we'll see him start to trim the 29% strikeout rate; keep the 16% walk rate; and approximate the 66% extra base hit rate. Just approximate though. That last one might be impossible to genuinely sustain, though it anybody can do it, it's Miguel MEJOR.

In other news, Jose Berrios went seven innings and struck out nine. Five hits and two runs. Kepler hit another homer and drew another walk.

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182. "Twins Territory is now Gibsonia!"
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Discuss his encouraging adequacy here.

I liked the hard-ass two seamer. That's not pitching to contact, that's hurting people. I liked the slider but got the feeling this wasn't as good as it gets. Changeup was "meh" but I liked that he threw it to righthanders like Billy Butler. That's balls.

He didn't look (yet?) like a pitcher that's going to make me want to change into my lazy pants, but this was pretty fun.

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183. "Mackey: Could Miguel Sano debut in 2013?"
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An article like this that doesn't mention whether or not Sano is on the 40-man roster (he isn't) is just click-bait for Twins nerds. But Mackey does get credit for actually asking Terry Ryan. So, B- effort here.

http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Could_Miguel_Sano_make_MLB_debut_this_year_Twins_havent_ruled_it_out062913

by Phil Mackey
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MINNEAPOLIS -- Miguel Sano has absolutely lived up to his status as one of the top 10 prospects in Major League Baseball this season.

After homering twice and driving in five against the Reading Phillies on Friday night, Sano is now hitting .310/.403/.655 with 22 home runs and 64 RBIs between High-A and Double-A.

If Sano continues to progress, the common thought was that he'd make his major league debut sometime in 2014 - after perhaps being given an outside shot to win the starting third base job in spring training.

But is it possible Sano could debut as a September call-up this season?

The Twins aren't ruling it out.

"I guess we'll let him dictate that," Twins general manager Terry Ryan said Saturday in an interview with 1500 ESPN.

"And certainly it'll be a little bit of a situation of what's going on with the major league team as well. But he's got quite a bit to learn before you start thinking about that. ...

"His defense is better than his offense down there (at Double-A) to this point, which is good. I think anybody that's seen him realizes he's going to hit, and certainly in time I think he'll catch up with Double-A pitching. But his defense has been pretty darn good."

The transition to Double-A was a slow one at first. But through 17 games Sano has raised his batting line to .236/.328/.655 with six home runs and 16 RBIs. Sano does have 78 strikeouts in 73 games between both levels - a trend the Twins would like to see him cut down on - but his bat can't be too far from MLB-ready.

Stay tuned.

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184. "UZR for a half-season is useless, but if it weren't useless..."
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... it would be telling us that Pedro Florimon is the second-best defensive shortstop in MLB.

My eyeballs haven't bothered incorporating him into some leaguewide ranking, but he does look really, really good over there. Lacking an immediately better option,* what do we feel about having somebody at short who is - at the very least - really, really good at one thing?

*internal prospects ranked according to readiness are the thoroughly "blah" Daniel Santana, the ghost of Levi Michael, the probably-not-shortstop Jorge Polanco, and Niko Goodrum. The last of these two are still in Cedar Rapids.

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185. "Byron Buxton to Florida State League: I think I'm getting it"
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3-3 yesterday with his first extra base hit and first stolen base. Up to .333/.364/.381 after slow start.

In bad news, the clean results of Alex Meyer's MRI don't mean he'll be on a mound anytime soon. That's worrisome, but it's aggravating to hear people pretend to have information that they don't. No reason not to be cautious, so until he actually has a diagnosis or surgery on something, we'll assume that's it.

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186. "JJ Cooper's next installment of Byron Buxton erotic fiction"
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This is getting weird. But still awesome.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/deja-vu-byron-buxton-stirs-echoes-of-mike-trout-in-cedar-rapids/

Deja Vu?: Byron Buxton Stirs Echoes Of Mike Trout In Cedar Rapids
June 30, 2013 by J.J. Cooper

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa—When the idea first popped into a scout’s head, it seemed preposterous.

Just two years after he dominated the Midwest League for Cedar Rapids, Mike Trout produced one of the best rookie seasons in baseball history. So how is it possible that there’s a guy in the same league–in the same city–who is … (looks around to see if anyone is within earshot) . . . better?

It seems crazy to compare anyone to a player who just produced one of the greatest age 20 seasons ever. But scouts who have seen Cedar Rapids center fielder Byron Buxton this spring are no longer wondering whether he’s the best prospect in baseball. They are wondering how the Twins farmhand–the Kernels switched affiliations from the Angels to the Twins this season–compares to the best prospects they’ve ever seen.

“I am positive he’s the best prospect I’ve seen in (more than a decade) of full-time scouting,” a pro scout for a National League club said. “It’s not even close. Tools, athleticism, feel and vision. Time will tell what kind of major league player he becomes, but the sky is the limit.”

Another scout, referencing the 2-to-8 scouting scale, said (somewhat) jokingly two days into five days of watching Buxton: “What don’t I throw an 8 on?”

A third pro scout has seen Midwest League stars come and go for more than a decade. In his eyes, Buxton’s hitting approach is better than Trout’s was when he was in the league. He hedges a bit, saying that he doesn’t know if Buxton will develop as Trout has, but says strictly based on MWL performance, Buxton has been better.

“Joe Mauer, Prince Fielder, Albert Pujols, that’s the grouping I have him in as far as pure hitting approach,” said the scout, who saw all three of those future big league stars come through the MWL.

Amazing At-Bats

The amazing thing about Buxton’s season isn’t that he’s good. As the No. 2 overall pick in last year’s draft out of a Georgia high school, everyone knew he was really good. When scouts have seen Buxton this year, what surprised them was his aptitude and his hitting approach. Even if you expected to see a player who can run and hit for power, how does a 19-year-old just a year out of high school learn how to grind out at-bats like he’s Joey Votto?

“I was expecting to see a raw tools guy who flashes brilliance. That’s what a normal 19-year-old from a small town does in the Midwest League. That’s not him,” an NL scout said.

The speed wasn’t surprising.

Oh, it’s special. The way Buxton glides from first to third with massive, fluid strides, he seems to eat up 60 feet, 6 inches in just a few steps. And scouts love that they get 4.0-4.1-second times consistently when he’s running from home to first, without ever seeing him jog one out. But before Buxton arrived in Cedar Rapids, everyone knew he could run.

The arm wasn’t surprising.

It’s the same arm that struck out 18 batters in the deciding game of the Georgia 2-A state championship series last year, as Buxton fired 92-93 mph fastballs.


Byron Buxton (Photo by Paul Gierhart)
The power wasn’t surprising.

Buxton has a whippy bat thanks to his excellent bat speed. He’s skinny with plenty of muscle definition, but not a whole lot of bulk. The biceps aren’t that big. His chest isn’t the chest of a power hitter. He’s a teenager who looks like a teenager. But because of his bat speed he can drive the ball to all fields, and when he really connects, the ball carries. He has present power, and scouts expect he’ll have significantly more as he fills out and matures.

The defense wasn’t even surprising, though it has been better than expected.

Buxton’s speed allows him to cover plenty of ground, and he pairs it with good jumps, good technique and excellent routes to makes the gaps just a rumor for opposing hitters. Scouts saw it in high school, but to see him make Gold Glove-caliber plays in pro ball is that much more impressive.

But the hitting. Who could have imagined this?

Buxton is just a year removed from playing 2-A high school baseball in Georgia, where he saw few 90 mph fastballs and even fewer quality breaking balls. Twins scouting director Deron Johnson saw Buxton six times last spring and said he never saw him face a pitcher with professional potential. And when he first arrived in pro ball, it showed.

Buxton went 1-for-27 to start his pro career in the Rookie-level Gulf Coast League last year. Two weeks into his pro career, he was hitting .037 with no extra-base hits. He looked like a kid from south Georgia over his head in his first taste of pro competition.

But what Buxton has shown already is that he is a fast learner. After going hitless in seven of his first eight games, Buxton had at least one hit in 18 of his final 21 in the GCL and jumped to Rookie-level Elizabethton, where he helped lead the E-Twins to an Appalachian League title. And between summers, Buxton showed that he had caught up to and passed his contemporaries.

“You saw the stuff. In instructs, you saw he had great aptitude. He really took off. This year in spring training, he was absolutely ready. He’s been doing this since more than just April,” Twins vice president of player personnel Mike Radcliff said.

This year, Buxton’s longest hitless streak is two games, and he quickly proved he was ahead of the pitchers in the Midwest League. At the time of his promotion to the high Class A Florida State League, he ranked in the top five in the MWL in batting, on-base percentage and slugging percentage and virtually every other offensive category. The only significant categories where he didn’t rank in the top five were home runs and doubles.

“He’s not afraid of hitting with two strikes,” Cedar Rapids hitting coach Tommy Watkins said.

Buxton’s approach and hitting ability make him standout from the other prospects who combine power and speed. Those players are always intriguing. But the players who combine power, speed and hitting ability at a young age? Well, that’s a much smaller and more elite group.

Twice Lucky

If Trout was a once a generation talent, how is it possible that Cedar Rapids ended up just three years later with another center fielder who belongs in the same discussion?

It’s an easy joke to make to ask if the people of Cedar Rapids have been living right. A lot of solid big leaguers have come through Iowa’s second-largest city, but diehard fans have to recall Eric Davis’ 15 home runs and 53 steals in 1982 to remember the last player before Trout who dazzled them with similar speed and power. Getting a talent like Trout or Davis once a decade or so seems reasonable. Twice in four seasons? Preposterous.

But Cedar Rapids definitely is living right when it comes to its baseball team. The Kernels have a booster club that sponsors picnics and other activities for the players and supplies gift cards so the players can eat properly on the road.

Cedar Rapids isn’t the only team that provides host families its players, but how many cities have waiting lists for host families? And how many send people to spring training to talk to the players personally, to make sure they match the right player with the right family? Allergic to cats? Well, these families won’t work for you. Latin American? The Kernels will try to match you up with a family that speaks Spanish.

It matters to the players, more than you may expect. Yes, some of the Kernels will grow up to be big league stars, but when they are Cedar Rapids, they are 18-, 19- and 20-year-old kids often in their first full year of life on the road. So a little stability, an opportunity to have a place to stay rent free and a little taste of home life is a godsend.

Twins middle infielder Alexi Casilla played in Cedar Rapids in 2005 as an Angels farmhand before he was traded to the Twins. In 2008, the Twins told Casilla he was headed to Cedar Rapids for a rehab assignment with the Beloit Snappers. They gave him the name of the hotel where he’d stay, but Casilla told the team he didn’t need a hotel. If he was headed back to Cedar Rapids, he’d stay with the family that took him in back in 2005. He has since come back to Cedar Rapids on an off day to catch a Kernels game and spend some time with his host family–a quick 275-mile jaunt down the road.

A Second Chance

Being blessed with Buxton just a few years after Trout has helped the Kernels in other ways as well. When Trout left town, the Kernels’ front office realized it may have missed an opportunity. The mantra in the minors is that you don’t market the players, you market the team, the experience and the promotions. IN part that’s because most minor league players are not well known, and also because the minor league team can’t control how long the player will be around.

But after Trout was promoted out of Cedar Rapids, Kernels general manager Doug Nelson (who was then the assistant GM) kept hearing from fans disappointed that they hadn’t come out to see Trout play before he left town.

“When Trout was here, normally we promote the team and we do not single out individual players,” Nelson said. “We realized we missed out on an opportunity to promote him in the community.”

So when Buxton arrived, and quickly showed that he was worthy of a trip to the park, the club started promoting him and his teammates in local radio spots.

“We heard a lot of fans say, ‘Boy, I wish I saw Mike Trout,’ ” Nelson said. ”We told fans, don’t make the same mistake you made with Trout. Come out and see them before they’re promoted.”

Even with two more rainouts than last year, attendance was up about 5 percent over 2012, thanks in part to the Buxton effect.

The Kernels also ordered a batch of 48 Kernels t-shirts with Buxton’s name and No. 7 on the back, marketing an active player for the first time in recent memory. The first shipment sold out in a week, and the second shipment of 72 shirts didn’t last much longer. Between online orders and sales at the park, the Kernels had to order more every couple of weeks.

“We thought we’d see what happened, but it’s such an overwhelming response,” Nelson said.

Who Would You Take?

Beyond comparing Trout and Buxton, scouts in the Midwest League had the opportunity this season to revisit the top of the 2012 draft and ask the question: Knowing what we know now, would you rather have Buxton, or the Astros’ draft haul of No. 1 pick Carlos Correa, as well as supplemental first-rounder Lance McCullers Jr. and second-rounder Rio Ruiz?


Carlos Correa (Photo by Paul Gierhart)
The Astros decided in 2012 to spread their draft budget over multiple players. So they signed Correa to a below-slot deal, then used the savings to sign McCullers and Ruiz to above-slot contracts. All three are now at Quad Cities. Correa is already considered one of the best shortstop prospects in the game. McCullers has showcased his excellent arm in the Midwest League, and Ruiz has shown flashes of his excellent potential at the plate.

Still, a survey of scouts who have seen all four indicates that one Buxton is better than the trio of Correa, Ruiz and McCullers, as a majority would take him over the Astros’ trio.

“Come on. It’s not even close,” an NL scouts said. “As I look at it, even if you had the plan to try to get three impact guys instead of one, the minute you walk into Buxton’s game, you have to scrap that plan and say, ‘We’re going with this guy.’ “

That opinion is not universal, however.

“Awesome as Buxton has been, I think you have to take the Astros’ trio,” an AL scouting executive said. “Especially because you might be getting another stud premium position player in Correa, who is still a little bit younger than Buxton. If this deal was on the table, I honestly don’t know who would say no first. Any way you slice it, the fact that we’re talking about trading three guys, one of whom went 1-1 last year, for a 19-year old in low-A ball is pretty insane.”

Like A Pro

It’s a kids run the bases/autograph day at Cedar Rapids’ park. When the game is over, kids file down to the field to experience what infield dirt feels like under their sneakers. Just beyond the base scampering in shallow right field, the line begins.

Want an autograph of potential future big leaguers like Adam Brett Walker, Jorge Polanco or Niko Goodrum? You can walk right up, get an autograph and have a conversation. No waiting.

Want an autograph of Buxton? Join a hundred or more fans in line. You could get the autograph of each and every other Kernels player in less time than it will take to get Buxton’s signature. The fans don’t care, though; they want to meet and greet the future star.

Buxton signs t-shirts. He signs scraps of paper and Kernels programs. Two tween girls walk up and remove their right tennis shoes, then hand them to Buxton to sign while they hop on one foot. After he signs, they thank him and then slide the shoes back on, walking away with extra pep in their steps. He also signs pristine baseballs that are quickly placed in protective acrylic cases, likely to appear on eBay in either the near or distant future.

It’s not the most enjoyable part of the pro baseball player’s life. But Buxton engages the fans, gives them a smile, makes a little small talk. The rest of his team, with nothing left to do, heads to the clubhouse while Buxton still has dozens of fans still in line. He keeps on signing. Finally the Kernels make an announcement that the field needs to be cleared so the grounds crew can do its work. Buxton is finally free to head in. He smiles as he signs his last item. He may be a 19-year-old, but he shows he understands what it is to be a professional baseball player.

Moving Fast

The Twins had high hopes for Buxton’s first year, but they didn’t think he’d be this advanced. Minnesota is an organization that would generally rather hold a prospect at a level a little longer than necessary than push him too fast. When Aaron Hicks was in the minors, Minnesota kept him in Class A for more than 300 games before he was deemed ready to move up to Double-A.

Buxton has already scrapped any similar plans for the Twins. In a half-season at Cedar Rapids, he more than proved he was ready to go to high Class A. With the way he’s progressing, life in the minors will move quicker for him than the average prospect.

“We’ve run guys through there all year. Paul Molitor for baserunning. All of the scouts that go through. Tom Kelly went through there,” Radcliff said. “All of them come out of there raving about not his bat speed, or his speed or his arm, but how great a kid he is. He listens, learns, processes and applies it two minutes later.

“It’s the ability to process things, the aptitude. It goes from showing him how to do something to taking it to the game the next day. It was the same with Joe (Mauer). You told him something once, and it was in there the next day. With minor league players, it’s all about repetition. That’s how they learn. But you don’t need much repetition with guys like this.”

At this point it’s reasonable to expect Buxton to open the 2014 season in Double-A. From there, a good performance could mean a late-season callup or an Opening Day 2015 arrival in Minnesota.

“As we sit here today, no reason to think a fast track isn’t possible,” Radcliff said. “He’s surpassed all the expectations we had. He’s passed with flying colors so far.”

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187. "at what point is this getting out of hand? "
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also, this:
http://kernels.milbstore.com/store_contents.cfm?store_id=66&product_id=41229

  

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188. "I think we may be past that point"
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Baseball American also polled some scouts who point some outlandish numbers on his physical tools. Fuck it, I'll post it below.

The problem with me is that I'd rather have some guys in front of him or some skills he still needs to actually acquire. As it is, there's nothing but the prediction of greatness and an indeterminate amount of time before that greatness wears a Twins uniform. I don't really have a mental limbering-up for that procedure. It seems like 2+ years of waiting for something to go wrong.

This scouting report is embarrassing. Bo Jackson probably had higher marks for power, but was probably not even a 50 for hit. I'd guess. So, this is probably a better report than the grandaddy of all scouting legends. Shit.

Here's the article:

Scout’s View: Scouting Byron Buxton
June 30, 2013 by J.J. Cooper

The following is a breakdown of Buxton’s tools compiled from talking to multiple professional scouts. All grades are future projections, not present grades and are meant to be quite conservative—undoubtedly there are reports sitting in the databases of teams with higher grades than these.

Hitting: 70. Buxton’s approach draws near universal accolades. He watches so many balls off the plate and recognizes pitches so quickly, scouts said they had to see him for multiple days to make sure he wasn’t just making pre-pitch decisions to swing or not swing. Buxton’s swing is short and direct to the ball. It’s helped immensely by his massive strong hands that generate excellent bat speed.

Power: 60. Buxton’s power is somewhat surprising as he’s still relatively skinny, even if he has a very well-defined musculature. Because of his whippy bat, he generates excellent present gap power to all fields and occasionally drives the ball for tape-measure distance home runs. Most scouts surveyed don’t see him ever becoming a 220-pound masher, but project him to hit 25-30 home runs once he’s matured and filled out.

Speed: 80. Buxton turns in consistent 4.0-4.05 times to first base from the right side. He’s even better going from first to third or second to home, as his long strides eat up yards with ease.

Defense: 80. One scout simply asked, “Who in the big leagues is better?” Buxton is working on being more aggressive at charging on base hits in front of him, but he already covers lots of ground, has shown a fearlessness on going back to get balls at the wall and understands both positioning and reading balls off the bat.

Arm: 70. After showing a 92-94 mph fastball in high school as a pitcher, Buxton has shown the same arm strength this season in the outfield. He shows the accuracy to hit the cutoff man and the arm strength to throw on a line to third base or home with excellent carry.

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189. "Jason Parks scouts AA New Britain: MEJOR, Rosario, Pinto, May"
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The defensive report on Sano is really encouraging. He's not a big Rosario fan here but he's expressed admiration in the past so perhaps a follow-up visit when he's adjusted more to AA pitching is in order.

Pinto is turning into a real sleeper. I was kind of interested in May's quibbles just because Parks makes them sound sort of fixable.

"New Britain Rock Cats

3B Miguel Sano

Series Stats: 5-for-15; 3 HR; 4 K; 1 BB

Notes: I’ll be writing a full scouting report on Sano this week at BP, but I’ll drop a few notes here as a tease. First of all, Sano is one of the best players I’ve ever seen in person. I was able to watch numerous batting practices, pre-game fielding drills, and live game action, so the sample might be small but it offers ample sustenance. Sano is a legit five-tool talent, which goes against several reports that you might be reading online. He’s a gifted physical specimen, with mature size and strength, but the body isn’t as high maintenance as I expected and his overall athleticism was above average. On several occasions, Sano showed a burst of speed down the line and on the turn that resembled an NFL tight end, a graceful out route from a 6’4”, 250-lb. beast of a man. I clocked him at ~4.17 from home to first on a ball he rolled over to the left side, which is absolutely flying for a man of his measurements. The power is extreme and it made me question my religious beliefs, but the biggest discovery of the trip was Sano’s skill at the hot corner, a position that many (if not most) assumed would not be his home at the highest level. Sano is going to play third base in the majors, and he has a chance to be above average at some point in the future. He is still raw and error prone, as I saw him step back on a ball and let it chew him up. But the leather is better than people realize, and with more repetition, he will refine that tool to major-league quality. Sano is at his best coming in on the ball, as he has a feel for fielding and making a quick glove-to-hand transition. He can flash the leather to the backhand as well, showing off a few highlight reel plays that saw him react quickly to the arm side, backhand the ball from the ground, spring to his feet, and fire a 70-grade missile to the first baseman for the out. He has the chops. He just needs refinement. The hit tool is his biggest weakness and I doubt he hits for average at the highest level, but he has good bat control for his size and swing leverage, and he understands the difference between a ball and a strike. The end game for Sano is probably .265 with some on-base ability (fear/recognition), and power that could play to its potential, which means 35-plus bombs year after year. Given that fact that he will be a competent (if not better) third baseman, his profile could make him one of the most dangerous and valuable players in the game.

C Josmil Pinto

Series Stats: 6-for-14; 1 2B; 2 BB; 2 K

Notes: Pinto can really hit; short and quick to the ball and he makes hard contact. The 24-year-old has a good approach, and I liked his ability to recognize pitches out of the zone and lay off. A good fastball hitter, he was able to track and barrel balls to all fields, and he showed good raw power in batting practice. I don’t see a great hitter, but he isn’t an empty stick, and his approach puts him in situations to take advantage of mistakes. Behind the plate he is okay, but I didn’t see a great catcher. He can receive, but he was only popping in the ~2.02 range, which is acceptable but not above average. The arm itself is strong, although his release isn’t especially quick and his arm action can get long. Despite his age and lengthy minor-league experience, I think he’s a sleeper prospect in the Twins system, and a player with a major league valuation.

2B Eddie Rosario

Series Stats: 1-for-11; 1 2B; 1 K; 1 BB

Notes: I was disappointed in Rosario’s defense at second, as he looked uncomfortable on balls hit right at him and his reactions to either side appeared slow, both in live action and in warm-ups. It should be noted repeatedly that the field conditions were terrible because of consistent rain over the weekend, but his approach and his actions weren’t of major-league quality. Given his athleticism, it seems likely that the outfield is a better location for his skills, but with repetition perhaps his glove can take steps forward at the keystone. But in the small sample, it wasn’t just the fact that he made errors and didn’t play well, it’s how and why those errors were made in the first place.

At the plate, he was struggling to find holes on the diamond, which is partly due to his approach to hitting. Rosario has fast hands, and the bat speed is easy to recognize as a positive attribute. But his swing path is very elevated, as he appears to be trying to hit the ball over the fence with every swing. It’s a batting practice approach that he brings to live action, and it might pay off for the 21-year-old if only he had the strength of a power hitter in the first place. The majority of his line drives fell short of the fence, despite being very well struck. He clearly has a natural feel for hitting, but I didn’t get the impression that he knows who he is as a hitter yet. Instead of using the whole field and spraying line drives with a more linear swing, Rosario worked in the deepest part of the field (up the middle) and lacked the punch to find over-the-fence success. He doesn’t have the body to develop the type of power his swing is trying to execute. With his bat control and bat speed, he could really develop into a good hitter if he works the gaps and takes advantage of his strengths instead playing into his weaknesses. He’s a tweener for me right now, more a hit tool/speed type than a complete player."

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190. "Willingham to DL, Hicks to return"
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Interesting. He wasn't really hitting in Rochester during rehab, and it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out the team was looking for a reason to just keep him down there after his rough MLB start.

But he's a real life centerfielder and Clete Thomas is not. I think what's kind of funny about this is that it shows the youth movement occurs in small moments and moves and not big ones. Want to make sure we get a good look at all the young(er) players we need to evaluate? Then don't buy into Clete Thomas' hot run and give them some playing time. This move says that seeing how Hicks and Arcia and Parmelee (who is probably running out of time himself) is more important than whatever marginal 2013 value that Clete Thomas provides over Aaron Hicks. And I fucking love it.

It also says that Byron Buxton is coming fast. Maybe faster than anybody is comfortable with. Hicks needs a good, long look before the storm starts.

edit: because it's not really worth it's own post, Max Kepler is hitting .295/.392/.659 in Cedar Rapids right now. And a 17 year old making his stateside debut, Amaurys Minier, is at .345/.394/.621 for the GCL Twins. In a system that will be hit hard for the best possible reason, graduation of top-100 guys like Hicks, Arcia, and Gibson, those two are big upside players that could replace them in the Twins top-10 this next winter. I think that Kohl Stewart is supposed to debut sometime this week too, but I'm not sure when.

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191. "back to willingham: hurt since end of april?!"
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what the holy fuck?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=willijo03&year=&t=b#month

and you can see it in his production dropping off. ugh. wonder if it was willingham wanting to play through it or another medical staff muck up.

thanks for that awesome trade value.

  

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192. "Yeah, our OF situation makes this unacceptable"
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We've got a DH spot, Doumit's ostensible outfield glove, a whole raft of AAAA guys and real OF prospects who need a look, and the availability of a DL to get him well and back on the field in time to build his trade value.

Instead, we run him out in leftfield nigh-daily and wait until a month before the trade deadline to schedule a surgery and 3-7 weeks off. Ugh.

Willingham, healthy-ish, is a classic mid-season trade for a contender. And the increased interleague basically doubles the market because NL teams don't have to worry about his shitballs glove. We've got winter to try something and next deadline, but this can't be considered anything but a fuckup at the moment.

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193. "My favorite prospect growing point: the reverse platoon split"
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For prospects without NCAA seasoning, we'll see occasionally that a righthanded hitter suffers from the lack of experience with left-handed pitching. Even high-school kids in California and Texas whose schedules resemble younger professionals just don't get left-handers with more than one pitch very often. Soooooo, they struggle against guys that they're suppose to see pretty well.

And then they don't, because that actually doesn't make sense.

Byron Buxton, in a tiny sample, has a .571 OPS against lefties. Expect that to change soon.

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194. "I don't want Scott Diamond to suck anymore"
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Not because I'm particularly attached to his success, but because it's boring. My long and glorious experience as an internet know-it-all has really made me cherish the very rare occasions where I'm wrong, and in 2012 I was super wrong about Scott Diamond.

When he was acquired, it was through a trade for hard throwing and truthfully rather stupid looking relief prospect Billy Bullock. Diamond was initially selected from Atlanta via Rule 5, but the Twins shipped them Bullock for the right to keep Diamond and demote him to Rochester.

It seemed almost like the Twins had drifted into self-parody, picking the soft-tossing lefty starter and punting on Bullock's high-90s gas. But then Diamond's 2012 gave the Twins 170-something innings of, shockingly, good component stats. It really didn't look like a Joe Mays lucky season where balls in play just found gloves. Instead, Diamond induced a ton of grounders to go along with his tiny walk rate. Strikeouts rule, obviously, but 54% grounders and no walks will play.

Meanwhile, Bullock never found the plate with his fastball like he could while still in the Twins organization, and his walk rate peaked at higher than TEN per nine innings last year. Throw in a 50-game suspension for "drug of abuse" and now Bullock is looking for work somewhere. The Twins looked... pretty smart on this.

So we'll stop thinking about him. Diamond has already accumulated more MLB value than Bullock is likely to create, so whatever on the trade. But he has returned to the pitcher we worried he was going to be. His strikeout rate has, miraculously, gone down. He's walking more guys - still not very many but this isn't a sharp line. Fewer grounders and more balls leaving the park means disaster. xFIP still doesn't hate him, but the nicest thing you can now say about him is that he kind of throws like Cliff Lee.

In any case, it's boring. I don't want to be bored. Be better, Scott Diamond.

The cool thing is that Brian Dozier looks pretty good, so not all of our underwhelming rookie appearances in 2011-2012 are going poorly.

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195. "fixed that for you."
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>In any case, it's boring. I don't want to be bored. Be better, Twins.

this isn't meant to undercut what you just wrote, because it was spot on, but this season seems like a bataan death march to the inevitable. why can't we just withdraw from the rest of the season for a nominal fine?

  

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196. "You're not wrong"
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>this isn't meant to undercut what you just wrote, because it
>was spot on, but this season seems like a bataan death march
>to the inevitable. why can't we just withdraw from the rest of
>the season for a nominal fine?

What sucks is how little pleasure I'm getting out of the nice spots. Joe Mauer, recent slump notwithstanding, is having a good year. Brian Dozier looks like a keeper defensively, is drawing walks and showing some pop, and really just needs a few more singles to fall in. If you drop Aaron Hicks almost impossibly (I seriously wouldn't believe it if he hadn't done it) bad April, he's actually been really rather good. Oswaldo Arcia is on the Rookie of the Year shortlist until he gets dinged for just aggravating the hell out of the advanced defensive stat gods. Actually, ditto Trevor Plouffe except for the rookie part. He just can't glove to save his life, but Plouffe's bat might let us play smart with Sano so that's good.

That's a bunch of good stuff that you'd love to see in a bad team. Star at the core playing well and some leaps forward from rookies with a great farm system ready to provide more talent. Perhaps if those weren't all on the same side of the ball then I'd be more hopeful about it, but as it is - meh.


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197. "Hicks...y(?): unboring for a night"
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That was actually pretty fun. I want a Hicks, Buxton, Arcia outfield very, very much. Though Arcia has looked shakier on defense then both scouting reports and when I saw him in person. I imagine it's difficult to adjust to finding the ball in a stadium full of people than in a half-empty minor league park.

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198. "They say command/control is the last thing to return after TJ"
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Gibson's had a weird 4th inning, but he's still getting swings and misses on both his slider and that hard, hard sinker. He also walked two guys and uncorked what looked like a 52 foot slider. Work in progress.

Still, hitting 92-94mph on that two seamer is going to work. It looks like his cutter is still lagging the furthest behind, as he's tried nipping the outside corner (to righties) with it and has kept missing by small amounts. I really hope the velocity sticks when the command finally comes around though, because it's solid #2 stuff when that happens.

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199. "You're going to want to watch the Futures Game this year"
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July fourteenth. Sano on the Int'l roster and Buxton on the USA roster.

This is our All-Star weekend.

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200. "it's good to be a twin ... but even better to be an ex-twin"
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*big sigh*

ortiz
cuddy
hunter
gomez
hardy
crain
nathan
balfour

at least we didn't draft all eight. that would be more disheartening.

  

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201. "Wow. "
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>*big sigh*
>
>ortiz
>cuddy
>hunter
>gomez
>hardy
>crain
>nathan
>balfour
>
>at least we didn't draft all eight. that would be more
>disheartening.

So what've we got acquisition-wise:

-Ortiz acquired in trade but at a pretty low minorleague level. For Dave Hollins, I believe.
-Cuddy was a first round draft pick, ditto Hunter
-Gomez, ugh, the Santana trade
-Hardy for Gomez, I feel like they cancel out here then... sorta
-Crain, early round draft pick. I want to say second.
-Nathan, the Pierzynski trade
-Balfour was an Int'l free agent from Australia

I'm pretty ambivalent about the meaning of their post-Twins success for Twins fans. Several of them are making a ton of money and wouldn't have been smart choices to retain. But the general sweep of this is that it makes us look like baseball's grown-up farm system. I'm more fine with that then I'd expect when the Twins are winning, but in another 95+ loss season, big ugh.

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202. "you can run down the list and rationalize most of them"
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so, it's really not terrible, but a couple do hurt a bit more than others because of how they were acquired and how/what we did with what we got for them when they were shipped. oh well.

you're right that the exercise isn't really worth it, but when you're staring at another 90+ loss season, the pieces listed could really, really help ... though, i still think bitching about ortiz is futile.

  

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203. "It's the second half - What the hell do you want to talk about?"
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I'm going to admit that three terrible years in a row has made individual game/series posts the exact opposite of captivating. The likelihood that nothing interesting will happen during an unpleasantly predictable loss is so strong that it's sort of a bummer to point out the patterns like a stars-n-scrubs lineup with fewer stars than usual and pitchers that rely on really, really well struck balls in play being turned into outs by a good-not-great defensive background.

That's it. That's the season.

So, what do my fellow okayTwinsfans want to talk about? The minors is always fun, but even with our prospects advancing both successfully and to imminent debuts it still seems kind of abstract. It'll be there, obviously, but I think if we're going to make this the New Britain Rock Cats 2013 season post we should call it that.

How about our tradeable assets? I think that giving this whole thing some sort of teological thrust is a good idea. So between the inevitable focus on our really rather good system and the likelihood of being deadline sellers, there's a theme being developed of:

WHAT WILL THE NEXT GOOD TWINS TEAM LOOK LIKE?

Anything that serves that purpose interests me. So does complaining about Kevin Correia and appreciating Trevor Plouffe in that weird way where even though he's totally servicable I know we'll remember the Trevor Plouffe era as dark days in Minnesota. So we'll do that too. But not dwell on it. A good Twins team exists in the organization at present.

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204. "is there a way to become a barnstorming team of 4-5 players? "
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like that softball team which only had 5 players? because then we could go:

buxton
mauer
arcia
sano
hicks

with gibson, meyer or whoever throwing the ball when needed.

sounds more fun that way, but i can't see mauer making the run over to first for every play there like the softball team. maybe our pitchers could help out? or buxton can make the run from short RC ... he does have an 80 speed rating after all.

in all seriousness, i'm willing to discuss just about anything about this team. we haven't discussed gardy and his future yet, which seems all the rage in the local media. or how rick anderson seems to have lost the midas-y touch. bruno hasn't caught much flak yet, either.

in other words, distraction seems to be the course of action.

  

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206. "Or they could play "pitcher's poison" like in kickball?"
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>or buxton can make the run
>from short RC ... he does have an 80 speed rating after all.

this idea is better though.

>in all seriousness, i'm willing to discuss just about anything
>about this team. we haven't discussed gardy and his future
>yet, which seems all the rage in the local media. or how rick
>anderson seems to have lost the midas-y touch. bruno hasn't
>caught much flak yet, either.

Oi. The coaching staff thing is so weird. I'm willing to listen to any of the people on this board talk about it more than I am other local voices that I know because you guys are marked as non-crazy.

To Gardenhire... I guess I don't particularly object to the idea that new blood is needed, but outside of coming freighted with some oddities that most managers have, I actually think he's really good. He runs a good pen. He uses his bench to keep players engaged and healthy. The less control over roster construction he has, the better - but that's something which can be organizationally flexible. Terry Ryan is perfectly justified in saying "no third catcher" or "eleven pitchers is enough" because Gardenhire's job is to use the 25 guys he has.

So whatever. If we can do better then I suppose we should do it. But as I've found out recently in painting our new place (and helping a friend with hers) I'm one of those people who finds the un-named general less attractive than the specific.

To Anderson... yeah. Something's broken, but I'm not sure if he's a cause or an effect. My read is that he was the perfect pitching coach for when the team was just acquiring good, raw arms and he was assisted by like-minded coaches down the line (like Bobby Cuellar). People like Santana and Juan Rincon and Liriano and Latroy Hawkins and Eddie Guardado really flourished having coaching which identified one or two things they could do really well and then added the Twins of "do that... and stop walking people".

But it seemed like eventually the team started acquiring arms which already fit this mold rather than forming them into it. Rick Anderson coaching Nick Blackburn is the baseball equivalent of John Malkovich entering his own mind.

In spite of this, there've been some successes that he hasn't gotten full credit for. Dude kept Carl Pavano healthy and effective for two and a half seasons. That's an achievement. I don't actually carry much water for pitching coaches though, so I'm comfortable with the somewhat unjust practice that when the pitching sucks, pitching coach has got to go. Unlike Gardenhire, I'm more confident that we can do better and that we're actually prepared to since elevating Bobby Cuellar to an MLB roll.

Bruno is a mystery to me. My inclination is to base an evaluation on the success of the young players who really need help adjusting to MLB pitching. But my overall attitude towards that learning curve is that guys become who they are. Dozier and Plouffe are looking like they can carry MLB average bats for their position. Nice job. Chris Parmelee looks like a bench player. Bad job. Unless that's who Chris Parmelee was always going to be. Aaron Hicks first month was bad to the point of near-statistical impossibility. Like, I might have actually lucked into more singles in April 2013. Bad job. Hicks since has looked like the slightly flawed but still very valuable player we expected. Adjustment is part of coaching, so good job. But Arcia was great when he first arrived, slumped hard, and then was shipped outside of Bruno's supervision to Rochester. Sooooooo?

I think hitting coaches should be treated as wizards in the court of some crazed, fictional medieval monarch. Nobody really knows what he does, but when he's working the wizard is pretty terrific. When things go poorly, find a new wizard.

>in other words, distraction seems to be the course of action.

2014 Draft is going to be a good one. Finally, we're sucking at the right time. Ace pitchers (even lefties!), true shortstops with plus bats, and catchers all abound.

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