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"Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers"


  

          


01 United In Grief
02 N95
03 Worldwide Steppers
04 Die Hard (feat. Blxst & Amanda Reifer)
05 Father Time (feat. Sampha)
06 Rich (Interlude)
07 Rich Spirit
08 We Cry Together (feat. Taylour Paige)
09 Purple Hearts (feat. Summer Walker & Ghostface Killah)
10 Count Me Out
11 Crown
12 Silent Hill (feat. Kodak Black)
13 Savior (Interlude)
14 Savior (feat. Baby Keem & Sam Dew)
15 Auntie Diaries
16 Mr. Morale (feat. Tanna Leone)
17 Mother I Sober (feat. Beth Gibbons)
18 Mirror

Out now.

This is gonna be polarizing.

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a lot of filler.
May 13th 2022
1
It hasnt excited me how I thought it would...
May 13th 2022
2
They don’t even attempt albums like this anymore
May 13th 2022
3
Aquemeni or Stankonia?
May 13th 2022
5
Stankonia...Damn was his Aquemini
May 13th 2022
8
      On first listen of TPAB I said "He went full Outkast".
May 13th 2022
31
           I still liken TPAB to LWFC
May 13th 2022
53
                same here
May 14th 2022
54
You get it
May 13th 2022
7
Listening now before work
May 13th 2022
4
100% ....first thing I thought was Bobby Digital
May 13th 2022
16
100% biting the RZA
May 13th 2022
19
      Well it's Alc so...
May 13th 2022
20
I like United in Grief and Crown the best
May 13th 2022
6
Yall bugging. This shit is greatness.
May 13th 2022
9
first listen was 10/10
May 13th 2022
10
yeah I love this
May 13th 2022
23
This hard af. Its not for the club, its for US
May 13th 2022
11
Auntie Diaries.. gotdamn this goes
May 13th 2022
12
Mother I Sober… shit.
May 13th 2022
14
His most personal album. A challenging listen at times. But 9/10 for me.
May 13th 2022
13
I’m here. Album made me genuinely emotional.
May 14th 2022
55
Need to time for this to settle in
May 13th 2022
15
It's exactly what I expected: honest & vulnerable & creative
May 13th 2022
17
he talking bout it allll...
May 13th 2022
18
I guess he will be an every other album guy for me
May 13th 2022
21
all over the place musically. got excited when i got to silent hill
May 13th 2022
25
      Definitely agree on the delivery leaving a lot to be desired
May 13th 2022
30
Folks need to realize he ain’t for cruising head bobbing
May 13th 2022
22
some of these songs sound like he's going for that though
May 13th 2022
24
You don't have to sacrifice musicality just to be "deep"
May 13th 2022
38
I fucks with this. Hard.
May 13th 2022
26
What are headphones or earbuds are yall listening to this with?
May 13th 2022
27
Momentum 3 wireless cans
May 13th 2022
29
Sennheiser HD800
May 13th 2022
33
RE: What are headphones or earbuds are yall listening to this with?
May 14th 2022
68
ghostface's verse brought tears to my eyes
May 13th 2022
28
"Critics" VS "The Streets" (I only heard 8 songs so far......)
May 13th 2022
32
RE: "Critics" VS "The Streets" (I only heard 8 songs so far......)
May 13th 2022
36
The twitter/reaction video "streets"?
May 13th 2022
44
      True, but..............
May 15th 2022
79
RE: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers
May 13th 2022
34
this is incredible
May 13th 2022
35
RE: this is incredible
May 16th 2022
87
Grammy locked in
May 13th 2022
37
this is for sure winning Album of the Year
May 13th 2022
40
      lol. agreed. if anything else won i'd be shocked.
May 13th 2022
42
      I wouldn't count on that.
May 13th 2022
46
      Rap Album of the Year...this aint winning Album of the Year with Adele
May 13th 2022
52
After Mother I Sober, shit like Mortal Man looks way different
May 13th 2022
39
after 1 listen, it's ok.
May 13th 2022
41
the beat at 2:10 of "Worldwide Steppers" deserved so much more
May 13th 2022
43
RE: the beat at 2:10 of "Worldwide Steppers" deserved so much more
May 13th 2022
45
      Merry Christmas
May 13th 2022
47
      lol thnks
May 13th 2022
50
      WHY THANK YOU
May 19th 2022
98
      Similar track for ya
May 13th 2022
48
           good lookin out
May 13th 2022
51
I don't find it challenging like some people do.
May 13th 2022
49
Two things can be true
May 16th 2022
88
      Millions of things are, and can be, true.
May 17th 2022
90
      RE: Two things can be true
May 19th 2022
99
Am I the only one that hears a slight Migos/Young Thug influence
May 14th 2022
56
Yeah, but I think it plays into what he's trying to do with this album
May 14th 2022
57
He's got a Kodak flow on some of these songs
May 14th 2022
59
      I agree...
May 14th 2022
63
Be a while before I have a take, but think it could've gone more Pablo
May 14th 2022
58
Lol no one listens to pablo
May 14th 2022
60
No one cares about that bullshit Kanye jerkfest
May 14th 2022
61
      Y'all bugging. Life of Pablo gets spin.
May 14th 2022
62
      Hey enjoy man.
May 14th 2022
64
      I got this theory we are out of the Get Out, Black Panther and This is
May 14th 2022
65
      I think people are mad because it isn't something you can play
May 14th 2022
70
      This site is hatekanye.com. Pablo is hot in the real world
May 14th 2022
66
           RE: This site is hatekanye.com. Pablo is hot in the real world
May 14th 2022
67
           You brought up the album. It's a good album. Dude remains trash.
May 14th 2022
73
           popular with white folks..
May 14th 2022
69
           no it ain't. Life of Pablo straight HUFF.
May 15th 2022
83
                you married Black, you don’t count.
May 18th 2022
96
           No way Jose
May 14th 2022
72
                Straight to the point....
May 14th 2022
74
      All these comments aside, I was referring to the experimentation
May 15th 2022
76
Probably my new favorite Kendrick album
May 14th 2022
71
This shyt is art. I can't even critique it musically yet
May 14th 2022
75
this ^^^
May 15th 2022
80
hell yea. 100%
May 15th 2022
81
The depth of introspection is an incredible achievement on it's own
May 15th 2022
77
Sorry for your loss my guy, RIP to your old man
May 15th 2022
82
Appreciate it
May 16th 2022
85
Parked the car last night, album stopped at Mother I Sober
May 19th 2022
97
Kendrick's "Aquemini" but "Streets" wanted ATLiens...........
May 15th 2022
78
been saying Kendrick is an Outkast disciple... thanks for this.
May 17th 2022
89
the most fun thing in music...
May 16th 2022
84
RE: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers
May 16th 2022
86
I tried..don’t like this
May 17th 2022
91
What ?
May 18th 2022
93
Truth be told..the music/instrumentation is really lackluster
May 18th 2022
92
I think its intentional. The words are more important than the beats
May 18th 2022
94
      my favs
May 18th 2022
95
This doesn’t seem like it was written for
May 19th 2022
100
White guy chiming in here !
May 20th 2022
101
      Thank you for responding
May 20th 2022
102
it's not sitting well w/ my spirit
May 20th 2022
103
My take is that you're correct in the conclusion of the album,
May 20th 2022
104
RE: My take is that you're correct in the conclusion of the album,
May 20th 2022
105
I feel this
May 21st 2022
108
RE: I feel this
May 22nd 2022
113
Have you read Eckhart, tried therapy, etc...?
May 22nd 2022
RE: Have you read Eckhart, tried therapy, etc...?
May 22nd 2022
114
      Sex addiction and alcohol were his coping mechanisms
May 23rd 2022
120
Have you read Eckhart, tried therapy, etc...?
May 22nd 2022
Have you read Eckhart, tried therapy, etc...?
May 22nd 2022
109
I didn’t get that from the album, for me it was just his confession
May 23rd 2022
121
only 286k first week. woof.
May 20th 2022
106
I'm the biggest Kendrick fan...
May 21st 2022
107
Still the biggest first week of the year.
May 22nd 2022
110
what even is a sale in 2022?
May 22nd 2022
111
Exactly - you can’t compare any numbers from 2022 to 2017.
May 22nd 2022
112
      how about we compare numbers from 2022 to 8 months ago
May 22nd 2022
115
           Or compare 2022 sales to 2022 sales.
May 22nd 2022
116
                Anemic year lol
May 22nd 2022
117
                     It’s almost June. If he has the biggest first weekend with those numbe...
May 22nd 2022
118
lmao at “sales”
May 23rd 2022
122
man that buildup on auntie diaries got me hooked.
May 23rd 2022
119

Reeq
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1. "a lot of filler."
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Fri May-13-22 01:22 AM by Reeq

  

          

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tzt2004
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2. "It hasnt excited me how I thought it would..."
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Not sure if my expectations were too high or what but its like he is trying to stay current because I hear some influences, not to mention the Kodak Black and Summer Walker features.

The album kind of sounds like there was no clear direction imo, but maybe I'm judging it too soon.

Ill give it another listen tomorrow.

  

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3. "They don’t even attempt albums like this anymore"
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But this is going for Aquemini, Late Registration like paradigm-shifting territory

I am stunned by this album.

  

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5. "Aquemeni or Stankonia?"
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What makes Aquemeni so special is it was different, but on first listen- that shit banged and was accessible to anyone who fucked with Outkast or was adjacent.

Stankonia on the other hand is a lot more polarizing

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8. "Stankonia...Damn was his Aquemini"
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It's funny you make the Outkast comparison. Kendrick's career to me most parallels theirs. He's like a singular hybrid of Big Boi and 3 Stacks.

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31. "On first listen of TPAB I said "He went full Outkast"."
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Couldn't agree more.

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53. "I still liken TPAB to LWFC"
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>Couldn't agree more.

And not just Bilal and the sound even though it’s that too. In my mind, the musicians involved pulled that album out of Kendrick and he was smart enough to let them do it. That’s how I’ve always felt about LWFC too. And I don’t mean that in an insulting way to Kenny or Rashid. They both had to rap their asses off to make a lot of those tracks go as hard as they did.

  

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54. "same here"
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two of my top albums of all time.

  

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7. "You get it "
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Album is great off first listen for me

  

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4. "Listening now before work"
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"We Cry Together" sounds like Kenny listened to this song right before sitting down to write

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVFWiqUash8

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16. "100% ....first thing I thought was Bobby Digital"
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that beat on "We Cry Together" HARD AF tho.

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19. "100% biting the RZA"
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not even in a subtle way lol

  

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20. "Well it's Alc so..."
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6. "I like United in Grief and Crown the best"
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Using the minimalist style that the east coast brought back starting with Roc Marciano but with a more musical / less bleak feel is a good match for Kendrick's delivery and makes for interesting songs.

Some of the more classically produced songs don't really stand out. They prolly bang on a system but not so much headphone music

I like the Kyrie line on Savior

Silent Hill on the low is another banger



  

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9. "Yall bugging. This shit is greatness. "
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Like not even saying I've processed the whole album. I've had one listen and its long and dense, but on one listen I can tell there is enough here to engage and talk about for a long time.

My biggest concern would be that it was too intellectual and heady and not have any real bops, but I feel like he covered off on that.


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10. "first listen was 10/10"
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I can see why some people might not like some of it but this is not an album you can skim through. Songs change up a lot.

Excited to give it another listen.

  

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23. "yeah I love this"
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Not one song I would remove. I feel like everything has a purpose and meaning and the execution really worked for me. I appreciate the content and enjoy the different styles.

I'm curious to see what he puts out as singles/makes video's for. I think Die Hard and Purple Harts are obvious choices that sound similar to Damn. Count Me Out also reminds me of Damn, specifically God but I don't think it would be a single.

I think Auntie Diaries and Mr. Morale could be a combo video. The beat of Auntie Diaries is dope. The content is heavy which would make it very interesting to be a single. The song kind of reminds me of Between Me, You & Liberation.

Mirror could also be a single.

Definitely keeping this album in rotation.

  

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11. "This hard af. Its not for the club, its for US"
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side-eyeing some of yall negro’s while bumping Crown

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12. "Auntie Diaries.. gotdamn this goes"
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and I think a lot of niggas our age can relate.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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14. "Mother I Sober… shit. "
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this man is talking about it…

all of it.

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13. "His most personal album. A challenging listen at times. But 9/10 for me."
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I really like it.

whether you end up loving or hating or being indifferent about the new album, at least acknowledge that Kendrick is just a different level of artist.

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55. "I’m here. Album made me genuinely emotional."
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Dude is really sharing out here, grappling with real trauma, both personal and systemic, and doing a beautiful job conveying it. Lotta these songs go too.

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15. "Need to time for this to settle in"
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Early favorites are

Father Time
Purple Hearts
Count me Out
Die Hard

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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17. "It's exactly what I expected: honest & vulnerable & creative"
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ultimately, we all contain multitudes, and he's no different.

to call it good or bad or great or terrible would be a disservice, in my opinion.

it defies such binary considerations.

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18. "he talking bout it allll..."
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father issues, generational abuse, etc etc...

if I was other rappers Id hang up my mic lol

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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21. "I guess he will be an every other album guy for me"
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The content and subject matter is interesting but musically I’m not into this at all. Some of this stuff is flat out bad or there will be like a 30 second switch up that just takes me out of the song

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25. "all over the place musically. got excited when i got to silent hill"
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Fri May-13-22 12:34 PM by bearfield

  

          

truly didn't care for a handful of the instrumentals he was rapping over. i do think it's a good project and i felt compelled to run it back as soon as it was over, which is a rare thing for me

tbh i think the rapping is uneven as well. he mentions having writer's block for 2 years early in the album. some of his flows and patterns are so basic that i thought that he was still working through it. it seems like the crux of the album is the lyrics and even then he's kind of just plainly stating things. like exposition through rapping. not much in the way of literary devices that rappers usually use. didn't catch much word play, metaphors or even similes. had me wondering if kendrick was always like this. that said i only listened once and generally miss a ton of stuff with the lyrics bc i am so dialed in on instrumentals and flows on my first go. i did catch the themes of the album (therapy, past trauma, infidelity, etc.) but likely missed many of the details. maybe the album will open up more after a second listen

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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30. "Definitely agree on the delivery leaving a lot to be desired"
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I’m just left scratching my head as I listen to most of this. Part of me just wants to read the lyrics at some point because there are a lot of songs on here I just do not want to sit through again.

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22. "Folks need to realize he ain’t for cruising head bobbing "
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His shit is deeper than that and this is all primary what I said but he’s Dylan not Drake (thank god) or whomever you drink/smoke to.

  

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24. "some of these songs sound like he's going for that though"
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stock west coast overproduced shit in a couple cases

it works on a couple tracks and it doesn't on a couple others to me, but I see the ones I'm not feeling in that lane (N95, Purple Hearts, Count Me Out), some others are feeling. The ones I do feel in that lane are Die Hard and Silent Hill

  

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38. "You don't have to sacrifice musicality just to be "deep""
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26. "I fucks with this. Hard. "
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Gotta give it another listen but damn...

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27. "What are headphones or earbuds are yall listening to this with?"
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Missed on entire production elements using $5 headphones.

It sounds better on headphones cheap as the K361 or both shp headphones 9500 and 9600. These go hard on open back headphones like the 300 R. Gonna try these on Beyerdynamic's Pro X line too. They even sound good on $12 akg headphones.

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29. "Momentum 3 wireless cans"
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I might give it a listen to with my Sennheiser open back. I forget if they're the 598 or 559.

  

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33. "Sennheiser HD800"
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68. "RE: What are headphones or earbuds are yall listening to this with?"
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>Missed on entire production elements using $5 headphones.
>
>It sounds better on headphones cheap as the K361 or both shp
>headphones 9500 and 9600. These go hard on open back
>headphones like the 300 R. Gonna try these on Beyerdynamic's
>Pro X line too. They even sound good on $12 akg headphones.

Jabras 75. I walk with em. I thought about pulling out the m50x but maybe not.

  

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28. "ghostface's verse brought tears to my eyes"
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is it 2022 or 96

  

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32. ""Critics" VS "The Streets" (I only heard 8 songs so far......)"
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"The Critics" ("10/10, 100%, Perfection....")

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Morale_%26_the_Big_Steppers#Critical_reception

"The Streets" ("7/10, 6/10, Trash.....")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLkL-EnHGH4

I've never seen 100% *Perfect* Wikipedia album ratings until now, but I'll save my thoughts for when I hear the whole album......

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36. "RE: "Critics" VS "The Streets" (I only heard 8 songs so far......)"
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>
>"The Streets" ("7/10, 6/10, Trash.....")
>

Kendrick aint really made an album for "the streets" since GKMC

  

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44. "The twitter/reaction video "streets"?"
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79. "True, but.............."
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.....I couldn't find direct links to Pookie, Ray-Ray & Junebug :-/

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34. "RE: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers"
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https://c.tenor.com/L3OPhIMIrwoAAAAd/boxden-sean-p.gif

  

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35. "this is incredible"
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Very ambitious...talking about A LOT...hits hard. Heavy listen.

Impressive effort. I might be crazy, but it sounds/flows like a live show/ set list/ borderline musical to me if that makes sense.

I'm not saying its a classic or perfect or even better than his others cuz its too early for that in my opinion...and I don't see anything topping TPAB for me...but this is really great.

I do think the Heart 5 should have been on here somewhere.

  

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87. "RE: this is incredible"
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>Very ambitious...talking about A LOT...hits hard. Heavy
>listen.
>
>Impressive effort. I might be crazy, but it sounds/flows like
>a live show/ set list/ borderline musical to me if that makes
>sense.
>
>I'm not saying its a classic or perfect or even better than
>his others cuz its too early for that in my opinion...and I
>don't see anything topping TPAB for me...but this is really
>great.
>
>I do think the Heart 5 should have been on here somewhere.


Everything you said!!

It takes all kinds to make up a world, son. -My pops

I just live for the comments -Da wiz

  

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37. "Grammy locked in "
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Everything has been figured out except how to live.

  

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40. "this is for sure winning Album of the Year"
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42. "lol. agreed. if anything else won i'd be shocked."
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someone would have to drop a HUGE critical AND commercial hit album.

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46. "I wouldn't count on that."
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The only rap albums to win Album of the Year had just as much—if not more—singing than rapping. Assuming this album is nominated, it COULD be the one to break that trend, but it seems doubtful. But then again, the album just dropped last night, and it's probably way too early for me to be speculating on any of this.


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52. "Rap Album of the Year...this aint winning Album of the Year with Adele "
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out in the streets...

  

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39. "After Mother I Sober, shit like Mortal Man looks way different"
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Like, he was really struggling with his infidelities when he wrote that song, and what would happen if it came out that he was cheating on Whit like he apparently was.

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"There is only one god and his name is death. And there is only one thing we say to death: not today."

  

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41. "after 1 listen, it's ok."
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will give it a few more spins.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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43. "the beat at 2:10 of "Worldwide Steppers" deserved so much more"
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than 10 seconds of existence

  

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45. "RE: the beat at 2:10 of "Worldwide Steppers" deserved so much more"
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Yess...that beat was fire. I wanted a full song with that

  

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47. "Merry Christmas"
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https://soundcloud.com/quelle-chris/the-plan-feat-denmark-vessey

  

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50. "lol thnks"
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98. "WHY THANK YOU"
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48. "Similar track for ya"
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https://youtu.be/Tcy544lI9U0

  

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51. "good lookin out"
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49. "I don't find it challenging like some people do."
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It's an entertaining listen. Kinda like hearing a movie or a show, which I enjoy sonically. Most albums these days kinda bore me tbh. This one kept my interest and gave me some bops in the process. I may not listen to all the songs as one-offs, but I like them all in the context of the album, because the album has a story to tell, and I enjoy the story. It's his story, and it's told in a very relateable way. Some artists are able to pull this off with thoughtful content. The last I remember that really hit the mark for me was "Everything's Fine" by Quelle Chris and Jean Grae.

I don't mind some of the songs not standing alone as one-off listens. Every scene in a movie isn't a one-ff scene. Most of them only make sense in the context of the movie. This album is that way for me. It's a good audio movie. For instance, "We Cry Together" is a necessary part of the story. I have a similar scene in my own story, but you won't appreciate it properly without the rest of the story.

People are going on about "Auntie Diary" 'deadnaming' and 'misgendering' as if they're totally ignoring the fact that the song is written from the perspective of a child. Being disagreeable and contentious isn't the same as being woke. Alotta people don't get that tho. *shrugs*

I enjoyed the album. He's not the deepest person or some revolutionary (criticisms I've seen levied at him already) but I'd be a fool to expect him to be either. He's an artist bearing his soul in a creative way. I think that's enough.

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88. "Two things can be true"
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>
>People are going on about "Auntie Diary" 'deadnaming' and
>'misgendering' as if they're totally ignoring the fact that
>the song is written from the perspective of a child. Being
>disagreeable and contentious isn't the same as being woke.
>Alotta people don't get that tho. *shrugs*
>

People can "get that" and still feel that its not ok and not fukk w/it.

its ok for it to be called out.

d


I don't speak to provoke. I speak because I think our time is short and each moment that we are not our truest selves, and we say what we do not mean because we imagine that is what somebody wants us to say, is wasting our time on this Earth - C. Adichie

  

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90. "Millions of things are, and can be, true."
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People can feel anything, based on anything.

And we can all call each other out in an endless loop.

Possiblities are endless.

Great talk.

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99. "RE: Two things can be true"
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Basically my stance
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56. "Am I the only one that hears a slight Migos/Young Thug influence"
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On N95? Something throws me off about that song to be the start of the album.

What happened to the chill Swimming Pools, or Money Trees style Kendrick use to rap in? He sounded more secure, or like one of the cool kids...now he sounds like someone trying to be cool on some of this and there is an urgency in his voice on all of these songs. Its like he didn't or couldnt relax as he approached this album.

Drake is also on his trying to be cool thing which makes me wonder if some of these rappers struggle with rap and how to stay relevant as they enter their 30s.

  

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57. "Yeah, but I think it plays into what he's trying to do with this album"
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It feels like an almost total rejection of that weight put on him by GKMC/TPAB, he's emulating a few different artists he likes listening to



Which is kind of full circle, because this is a dude who used to publish terrible sounding Lil Wayne type mixtapes in his late teens


And having listened to that stuff a good amount back in the day, it's fun for me because it doesn't SUCK.SHIT. like it did back then but I can see why it'd be underwhelming for people who came on at Section.80 or even later.


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59. "He's got a Kodak flow on some of these songs"
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63. "I agree..."
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And it's something I don't especially care for.

This may be an album I respect but don't actually like.

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58. "Be a while before I have a take, but think it could've gone more Pablo"
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And I think that's true for a lot of ambitious albums of the streaming era. For how much this album hops around vibes and sounds, it's not a lot of songs that catch you by surprise especially after a couple listens, it does feel a little...Drake-ish in the way it can cosplay these different sounds instead of subsume them into a larger statement.

Whereas Life of Pablo...it's still intense to me when a Famous, or a No More Parties in LA/30 Hours or Waves comes on. It's kinda odd that Kendrick doesn't have that same effect...but I also disagree with people that are mid on this album. I think there's a lot here and I'm excited to keep listening at home, on the bus, after hours at work, etc. It sounds good and he sounds great.

Personal note...love seeing Duval Timothy get five placements. He's a dude I really think could have a huge effect on the rap scene if he gets enough minutes and it's cool to hear his influence here. Actually pretty surprised this thread is on average tepid towards the production, for me that's the early hook.

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60. "Lol no one listens to pablo"
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this album is classic

  

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61. "No one cares about that bullshit Kanye jerkfest"
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You're right you need to spend more time with this Kendrick album if this is your initial takeaway

Dream with your eyes open.....

  

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62. "Y'all bugging. Life of Pablo gets spin. "
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There are five legit great songs on life of Pablo that are in regular rotation.


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64. "Hey enjoy man. "
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I can't fuck with that niggas music anymore. Bad energy.

Dream with your eyes open.....

  

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65. "I got this theory we are out of the Get Out, Black Panther and This is"
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America era of Art of the Trump Presidency.

Trump was the pits but he did unite us against a common enemy of his type of racism and our art reflect that. The artistic highlights from that period had a moral clarity and was really gave us exactly what we wanted to see . Uplifting images or clear bad guys and a focus on the common enemy.

As much as I liked the works mentioned, they really weren't challenging or display any moral ambiguity. They were not "problematic". With Trump in office there was no room for internal dissension.

Trump is gone and now we are seeing more of the internal conflict. More internecine fighting done in public. Asking questions like, what did BLM do with all that money? Atlanta talking about black scammers. Chappelle questioning the alliance between the LGBTQ and Black movement in certain parts of each movement. The battle between progressives and moderates.

Kendrick has made his most personal album (which is saying a lot for a deeply introspective dude) and people are mad because he is voicing some his own problematic thoughts (which btw, he identifies as problematic!) and its not sitting well with people.

I am glad he did it. Art is supposed to challenge you. As much as I loved This is America when it dropped, it was telling that it became the fav of little white girls on tik tok for a minute. I watched the video recently and it's still amazing, but yeah.

I think about how as problematic NWA was, they really created great art that brought police brutality and life in the hood to life. I just doubt they would get the platform to do something like that to do because the bitter truth they rapped about also carried the baggage of their mysogny, homophobic and glorification of violence. I mean its a good to see us as a people evolve and look back and say we don't want to go back there. But it is also important to judge that work within the context of who the people were when they made the song. Just like when Kendrick talks about his own homophobia when he was younger.



Just some ideas I am working out.

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70. "I think people are mad because it isn't something you can play"
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at a BBQ this summer.

and I'm sure most of the mad you are reading about is on twitter.. lol

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66. "This site is hatekanye.com. Pablo is hot in the real world"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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67. "RE: This site is hatekanye.com. Pablo is hot in the real world"
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That's great. I'm happy for people who find this dude and his music helpful in their life. Good for them.

I could get into a very long back and forth about why I don't fuck with him but it's kind of a waste of time.

Part of it is I'm just mad that actual hip hop masterpieces like We Got it From Here..... don't get the shine they deserve and Kanyes work gets continually overrated.



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73. "You brought up the album. It's a good album. Dude remains trash. "
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69. "popular with white folks.. "
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83. "no it ain't. Life of Pablo straight HUFF."
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i couldn't believe people were, and still do, fellate that garbage.

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96. "you married Black, you don’t count. "
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obviously you have standards. j/k

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72. "No way Jose"
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Kanye’s music stinks, hasn’t been good in over a decade. A long time ago he made good songs, he was never good at rapping.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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74. "Straight to the point...."
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This right here.



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76. "All these comments aside, I was referring to the experimentation"
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Take the Kanye out of it, like I said in the original post aside from a JPEGMAFIA you don't get too many dudes embracing just how deep the hip-hop rabbit hole can go the way the Pablo team did back then and I guess because of the amount of time between albums and talent of the many people involved (particularly Martin, Glasper, Thundercat and Duval Timothy) I had kind of hoped this album's production wouldn't feel as...


stoic??

as it does.


And I really like it. Just a little surprised.


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71. "Probably my new favorite Kendrick album"
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previously it was Good Kid, I didn't fall in love with TPAB like most people did


From the very beginning of United in Grief he makes it clear this is going be a very personal album about what he's been going through the last 5 years

The instrumentals and guest vocals throughout this are just powerful

Certain parts of this album reminded me of "Yeezus" Era Kanye (which I'm a fan of)

Was glad to see Kodak Black pop up throughout this, was kind of disappointed by "Silent Hill" since the title caught my eye when I first bought the album

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75. "This shyt is art. I can't even critique it musically yet"
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It's just on a different level than anything out right now

I've come to terms to stop comparing him to the classic hiphop of my time

And just appreciate him for what he is in this current state of rap



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80. "this ^^^"
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81. "hell yea. 100%"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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77. "The depth of introspection is an incredible achievement on it's own"
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K. has always looked inward and his lyrics were funneled through the context of his environment
The fact that this is released during a pandemic is almost a footnote
He goes deep on so many topics;
... homosexuality, sex addiction, molestation, alcoholism, domestic violence, therapy, etc...
Almost everyone had a song just for them
Not just a... that's my jawn...jawn
A song that is deeply personal to each listener as well
For example, my father recently passed
So Father Time hits different, and I have a connection to that song which transcends just music

...I had the strangest reaction after my first listen...
Good for him.
That's all I kept saying
Good for Kenny

I get what some are saying about the music and lyrics
One of the songs had strings running for a bit, and I thought...they ballin' now... that's not a sample...nope, Kenny's big time now...he gets the whole orchestra.. LOL

He's 5/5 in my book, and that's rare company.

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82. "Sorry for your loss my guy, RIP to your old man "
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85. "Appreciate it "
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97. "Parked the car last night, album stopped at Mother I Sober"
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Jump in the car this morning…real tears
Crying like a baby on my way to work

I’m starting to question people that don’t find a deep connection to something on this album
Is it denial, or a block from previous trauma
Or just the privilege of not having ANY of these experiences

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78. "Kendrick's "Aquemini" but "Streets" wanted ATLiens..........."
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........and they acting like it's "Electric Circus" :-/

Anyway it's still too soon to rate this, but my Favorite Song is "Count Me Out" -- I'll know by June though -- Btw, I know this is random/late as hell, but if anyone knows the name of the chick at the end of Nip's Double Up video, you'd instantly have a new best friend -- Thanks in advance.

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89. "been saying Kendrick is an Outkast disciple... thanks for this."
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Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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84. "the most fun thing in music..."
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...is going deeper and deeper into an album and finding something new on every listen

  

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86. "RE: Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers"
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Absolutely Love it!!!

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91. "I tried..don’t like this"
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like some else in this thread … basic rhymes and flow/delivery … Even Ghostface’s appearance was underwhelming

  

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93. "What ?"
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n/m

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92. "Truth be told..the music/instrumentation is really lackluster"
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I know everybody wants to talk about how forward thinking this project is and how artsy it is. Which I agree, its different than the industry standard right now but at the end of the day, all I need is dope lyrics and beats and sonically these beats are really forgettable.


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94. "I think its intentional. The words are more important than the beats"
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95. "my favs"
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WorldWide Steppers
Rich Spirit
Count Me Out
Purple Hearts
Auntie Diaries
Mother I Sober

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100. "This doesn’t seem like it was written for"
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white people in any way. It’s so refreshing in that way and the mic presence reminds me of early BDP. I am going to have some fun now and read how white critics struggle with this content but are forced to praise it.. I thinks it’s his best and most consistent effort but the highs aren’t as high as the last two albums and it’s structurally similar to TPAB.

Taking shots in the dark/that's a bad call
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101. "White guy chiming in here !"
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A) who knows who it was “written for”, seems most obvious it was written for himself, but I’ll tell you that THIS white guy thinks it may be my 2nd favorite KL album after GKMC. I’m in disbelief that all of these ideas could come from the brain of one person.

B) you’ll be surprised when you start seeking out reviews. Response is a mixed bag overall from both black and white critics, and white critics are especially agitated because he’s hitting all of the notes that white liberals love to whine about on Twitter. Between the cancel culture line on N95, the F word use on Auntie, and his tag teaming with Kodak Black, there’s lots of white liberal arts degree writers calling this their favorite condescending adjective - “problematic”. The inclusion of Kodak Black is somewhat of a head scratcher given his record, I get how having him on the record could seem counter to Kendrick’s otherwise pro-female themes on the album. That said, it baffles me how few reviews I’ve read understand that Kodak Black is here as a sort of caricature (KL literally mentions that poor black abused kids grow up to be rappers and buy jewelry and get face tattoos to cover their emotional scars.)

  

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102. "Thank you for responding"
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I wasn’t trying to be provocative but lyrically here Kendrick seems to be talking more openly in a way that only black people talk. There are some issues here he addressed that’s talked about in a way that I have never seen in mixed company and it is very refreshing: I can connect with it even seeing the shortcomings. I hope you find the same amount of value in this as a hip hop record knowing the context. The critical response is more accurate than I thought but still not fully understood. There is bo symbolism on the cover: many black men at the age of having young children face adjusting to long term versus short term goals in this country.

Taking shots in the dark/that's a bad call
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103. "it's not sitting well w/ my spirit"
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maybe i'm pessimistic.

but this album distilled down, for me, is kendrick saying:

"fuck it - it is what it is. i'm working my shit out. y'all gotta work out your own shit. i'm working on me and this is what i got so far. miss me wit that other shit."

...and i respect it. i do.

i don't like it tho. it magnifies my own feelings of powerlessness and an inability to command my own destiny.

b/c if kendrick can't do it?

shit.

everything just seems to get worse.

i've spent the last 15 years in the service of others and shit keeps getting worse.

the best i can do is secure brief moments of rest - let alone peace or happiness or wealth.

it feels like it reaffirms that all you can do is for those small moments.

my inner idealist has been slowly bleeding out over the last decade.

this album feels like its tombstone.

  

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104. "My take is that you're correct in the conclusion of the album, "
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because that's the message of the last track Mirror (which happens to be my absolute favorite on the album.) He ends the song and album with that repeated hook "I choose me, I'm sorry" and it just HITS me.

BUT the rest of the album was a journey to get to that conclusion. The album is a full therapy session of him working through his own issues, and my take on it is that it's encouraging the audience to do the same. To not ignore the mental health discussion with yourself. To not take all of the issues of the world on your shoulders without first getting yourself right. And if you work through all of this yourself, maybe you reach the same conclusion as Kendrick - "I choose me, I'm sorry." But maybe someone else takes this as inspiration, works on themselves, and they come out on the other side better equipped and better prepared to start tackling some of the issues we see in the world.

Bottom line - you can't be effective in serving others if you don't first serve yourself.

  

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105. "RE: My take is that you're correct in the conclusion of the album, "
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>Bottom line - you can't be effective in serving others if you
>don't first serve yourself.

right. that's what i came to years ago. and i've practiced it - because that's how i've survived.

but damn if it isn't a bitter pill to swallow that he came to the same conclusion. i think the salt in the wound for me, personally, is i've just been getting by while yearning to thrive.


maybe it works out for kendrick - he's got access to more resources and it ties back into the idea of breaking generational curses.

for me, it's disheartening. this album would have put me on the floor if it dropped when i was going through it during grad school. maybe i'm still doing things wrong and i can't see it? lord knows.

the process is the process - and it took all the pieces for kendrick to get here in his journey. through this album - and his entire discography. i'm curious to see where he goes from here.


i think the album was solid musically.

it's my reaction to the message that's tumultuous.

  

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108. "I feel this"
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If the year in your username is your birth year, then we are the same age. Life has whipped my ass its fair share over the latter part of my 20's and early half of my 30's

What you view as powerlessness, I view as power. I've felt the powerlessness before too, but I view this album as solace that if his rich ass is going through it and coming to the same conclusions, then I'm done fine. He made subtle references to things I've tried to do to figure out who I am and who I've been (i.e., past life regression, therapy, etc.)

I don't know you or your current situation obviously, but I hope that your idealism finds a peaceful, grounded landing spot

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113. "RE: I feel this"
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that was the same silver lining I came to.

if *this* is kdot's answer and he's rich - well, shit. aiight. at least i'm not in left field, solo dolo.

but it just feels like it's an endless cycle of coping mechanisms with no *real* movement.

you win a little bit of ground. you lose a lot. play it smart, build back up. lose it all again.

repeat ad nauseam.

it really drives home the fact that *if i could do things differently* i would have solely focused on money and scraping together something for myself/securing financial wellbeing versus dedicating my career and life to the public good.

  

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"Have you read Eckhart, tried therapy, etc...?"


  

          

Agreed, he's saying I struggle with the same $hit you do, every man

But... he's giving you game on how he's dealing with it

He is doing it.

You aren't powerless...you have the power
You can command you're own destiny
Kendrick is not going to do it for you.

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114. "RE: Have you read Eckhart, tried therapy, etc...?"
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bro, i read eckhart tolle somewhere between 2010 and 2013.

i'm not new to this, i'm true to this. i've been on the mindful movement since the early aughts. my point is - coping mechanisms are just that - coping mechanisms. they don't deal with the root issues. you can't therapize your way out of poverty. self-help isn't going rectify race issues. there's even an argument to be made that turning inward is self-destructive as it allows all the external bullshit to continue, unchecked.

kendrick. with all his resources. all his money. all his depth. came to the same answer that i did - and he hasn't even really broached what comes next. theoretically - the hereafter is simply enforcing boundaries and flourishing.

theoretically. i made that choice - and *continue* to make that choice. because it's not something you simply decide and it's done. you have to continually work at it.

not all tended gardens flourish, tho.

that's why this album comes across as a gut punch for me. kdot - the light in the dark - said it's too dark; it's too heavy.

he has to protect his flame. and he told us to tend to our own.

and that's cool. i respect it. i made the same choice for my own sanity and health.

but that doesn't mean that i don't miss his warmth.

  

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120. "Sex addiction and alcohol were his coping mechanisms "
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He uncovered the root causes for that behavior through therapy

Sounds like you haven’t uncovered the root cause of your issues.

You never heard the saying, money doesn’t buy happiness…?
Understood that this was an unexpected theme for his album
But I was happy FOR him
His work to be a better man, husband and father is commendable

I’m not sure how to comment on the warmth part…his albums have always been pretty dark

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"Have you read Eckhart, tried therapy, etc...?"


  

          

Agreed, he's saying I struggle with the same $hit you do, every man

But... he's giving you game on how he's dealing with it

He is doing it.

You aren't powerless...you have the power
You can command you're own destiny
Kendrick is not going to do it for you.

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109. "Have you read Eckhart, tried therapy, etc...?"
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Agreed, he's saying I struggle with the same $hit you do, every man

But... he's giving you game on how he's dealing with it

He is doing it.

You aren't powerless...you have the power
You can command you're own destiny
Kendrick is not going to do it for you.

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121. "I didn’t get that from the album, for me it was just his confession "
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dude is called the greatest, had fame and wealth and realized that it wasn’t fixing what was broken.

“I grieve different” lets you know he was harming himself and others around him trying to cope with life/loss/lust/success/etc

and with the pandemic and cancel culture and everyone running online to scold people for how they were living… it was just too much.

He addressed the trauma and found out what had him broken and now he realizes he has to choose himself over everything/everyone out here trying to take from him or give to him.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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106. "only 286k first week. woof."
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i know no single. i know minimal promo. *insert other pleas here*
but thats a looong way down from 603K first week for Damn.

dude out here doing JCole and 20 years deep Kanye numbers. the anticipation supposed to be sky high after 5 years away. people played it once, if they got through it at all, and said nah im good you got it.

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107. "I'm the biggest Kendrick fan..."
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but after one listen I just wasn't feeling it. I waited years for this album and it just didn't catch me so I couldn't support.

That's not to say I wont buy it ever, but I didn't purchase right away how I just knew I would.

I actually like The Heart Part 5 better than any song on the album.

Maybe the album is a grower...we'll see.

  

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110. "Still the biggest first week of the year. "
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2022 sales overall just blow.

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111. "what even is a sale in 2022?"
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no one is buying music, artists aren't living off the pennies they get from streams.

there's countless stories of artists inflating their numbers by using streaming bots. going on instagram and telling their fans to stream their songs on repeat with the volume down.

none of this shit real.

this album will be talked about and dissected years from now.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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112. "Exactly - you can’t compare any numbers from 2022 to 2017. "
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115. "how about we compare numbers from 2022 to 8 months ago"
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cmon man

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116. "Or compare 2022 sales to 2022 sales. "
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anemic year, Kendrick still had the biggest release.

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117. "Anemic year lol"
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They was predicting 500k+ for him. It’s a flop for an artist of his stature and point in his career.
Interscope even got Eminem to send out a hype tweet for the album cause it wasn’t catching like that

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118. "It’s almost June. If he has the biggest first weekend with those numbe..."
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Then yeah. Anemic year. Flop, maybe. We need to see how the rest of the year shapes up.

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122. "lmao at “sales” "
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you don’t make an album like this if you care about sales.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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119. "man that buildup on auntie diaries got me hooked."
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that shit is beautiful.

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