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"Official Washington Redskins 2013 Season Post"


          

I searched and didn't get a season post I saw the off season but not the season one, so if there's one please feel free to lock away.

Everyone saw opening night, it was bad so i'll skip that and move on to week 2 below.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
What's the plan here, Shanahan?
Sep 15th 2013
1
Something has to give
Sep 16th 2013
3
      Haslett is the defintion of old boys network
Sep 16th 2013
4
           I know you've been on record as saying as much from the beginning with h...
Sep 16th 2013
7
Week 2 at the Packers
Sep 16th 2013
2
Problem:
Sep 16th 2013
5
      Out of them all Morgan is tough, and is a good blocker
Sep 16th 2013
8
           I like Morgan
Sep 17th 2013
14
           precisely. He's adequate enough, and he can't get an extra yard at all
Sep 17th 2013
19
           you keep saying that
Sep 18th 2013
21
                the team led the league is rushing last year with his help
Sep 18th 2013
22
                right, he aint catching shit and cant get open
Sep 19th 2013
25
                His importance to the offense is even larger now
Sep 18th 2013
23
                     word? because hes still absolutely useless
Oct 15th 2013
70
                          Anybody else on the team that is a better option?
Oct 15th 2013
71
                               Bob's passing weapons are bad.
Oct 15th 2013
72
Apparently Josh Morgan's mom works at the Navy Yard
Sep 16th 2013
6
I would hate for her to be one of the 12
Sep 16th 2013
9
      lol, that's an important clarification to make?
Sep 16th 2013
10
      Some kats take those jokes too far and stuff, I wanted to be on record
Sep 16th 2013
11
           I hear ya, it just sounded funny
Sep 17th 2013
18
      Good news is he did end up reaching her.
Sep 16th 2013
12
           I know, that story is crazy.
Sep 17th 2013
13
           Yo seriously that's a lot on it
Sep 17th 2013
17
They need to change that name
Sep 17th 2013
15
water, still wet. sky, still blue. post, still uninspired.
Sep 17th 2013
16
We know Redskins is racist, why do people keep saying it?
Sep 17th 2013
20
poor JC
Sep 18th 2013
24
They know what JC will give them
Sep 19th 2013
27
one of few bright spots on this team is Jordan Reed
Sep 19th 2013
26
You're about to get your wish, because Reed getting all of Fred's tick
Sep 19th 2013
28
Yup. Kid looks good.
Sep 19th 2013
29
      all three of those 2nd rd draft picks
Sep 25th 2013
42
           I thought by pure luck Cerrato had hit on one of them.
Sep 26th 2013
45
                Orakpo would've gone in the first no matter what BUT...
Sep 26th 2013
46
They can't possibly a third straight performance like the first 2
Sep 19th 2013
30
It's crazy, but I don't know what to expect this week...
Sep 19th 2013
31
      RE: It's crazy, but I don't know what to expect this week...
Sep 20th 2013
32
      This is some good shit and one of the less reactionary responses
Sep 20th 2013
33
      well said. OL's been a problem for years.
Sep 20th 2013
34
           I think the O-line suffices for what the offense is supposed to do.
Sep 20th 2013
35
           CORRECT, the only real athelete on the line is Williams
Sep 20th 2013
36
           Right. The OL plan only works when things go well
Sep 20th 2013
37
           meanwhile Tony Pashos is starting for the raiders
Sep 26th 2013
43
At least I'll have this.
Sep 23rd 2013
38
Week 3 @ Home against the Detroit Lions
Sep 24th 2013
39
so
Sep 24th 2013
40
I never thought I would see the day when playing the
Sep 24th 2013
41
      Pryor scares me with this terrible ass D we have
Sep 26th 2013
44
Week 4 @ Oakland Win heading into the Bye
Oct 02nd 2013
47
Out of the Bye Week at Dallas
Oct 14th 2013
48
RE: Out of the Bye Week at Dallas
Oct 14th 2013
52
      RE: Out of the Bye Week at Dallas
Oct 14th 2013
66
           Some of us do....
Oct 14th 2013
69
                D. Hall has been good this season and through the end of last
Oct 15th 2013
73
                     We're in big trouble the Orakpo/Kerrigan pair fails
Oct 16th 2013
76
                          Unless Orakpo isn't 100% healthy or he no longer juicing
Oct 16th 2013
77
                               with a decent secondary we'd be ok I guess
Oct 16th 2013
80
I'm waiting for the next GM
Oct 14th 2013
49
Do you believe Allen is going somewhere?
Oct 14th 2013
50
Meant Shanahan, the actual decision maker.
Oct 14th 2013
51
      Shanny's here dog, he's here for the duration
Oct 14th 2013
53
           Snyder's here for the duration.
Oct 14th 2013
54
                You know mediocrity is a step up for him
Oct 14th 2013
55
                Mike Shanahan is still waiting to win a playoff game
Oct 14th 2013
56
                     You know how I feel about that Seattle game
Oct 14th 2013
59
                          This is playing out exactly like it did in Denver.
Oct 14th 2013
63
                I mean, he's tried the other route too
Oct 14th 2013
57
                Spurrier was an incredibly uninspired hire
Oct 14th 2013
58
                Spurrier was a bold move. I liked it at the time.Obviously it didn't wor...
Oct 14th 2013
68
                and failed badly.
Oct 14th 2013
64
                We'll know that Snyder's grown, when he hires a defensive guy
Oct 16th 2013
79
                     I agree
Oct 16th 2013
82
                          I agree with both of ya'll
Oct 16th 2013
83
Salary cap implications cannot be denied
Oct 16th 2013
81
From an already subpar unit the unspecial teams
Oct 14th 2013
60
Damn.
Oct 14th 2013
61
I feel like shifting money to next year and the year after to keep
Oct 14th 2013
62
And I bagged on Danny Smith...
Oct 15th 2013
74
      I know.
Oct 15th 2013
75
      Better the Devil you know..........
Oct 16th 2013
78
hi
Oct 14th 2013
65
You stylin shells?
Oct 14th 2013
67
Good article about Shanhan's future.
Oct 18th 2013
84
let's rap cuz
Oct 18th 2013
85
      RE: let's rap cuz
Oct 18th 2013
86
           More Smuts point, we go into the draft with huge needs every year
Oct 18th 2013
87
                respect your opinion, but arguably none of the negatives are true
Oct 18th 2013
88
                     It's all good, so lets discuss
Oct 18th 2013
89
                          RE: It's all good, so lets discuss
Oct 21st 2013
90
                               My question to ya'll
Oct 22nd 2013
106
                                    hell if I know
Oct 22nd 2013
108
i predict listening to 106.7 today will be insufferable nm
Oct 21st 2013
91
then don't listen ya bish. HAIL
Oct 21st 2013
93
Run the ball. Play action.
Oct 21st 2013
92
winning despite that Special teams and D speaks to the offense/Griff
Oct 21st 2013
94
      Agree, I'll get into some of the points morein my game post
Oct 21st 2013
95
           Bob's running much smarter this year.
Oct 21st 2013
96
Merriweather Suspended 2 games
Oct 22nd 2013
97
honestly the bamma is trash anyway.
Oct 22nd 2013
98
Correct, that's my point he's our BEST safety
Oct 22nd 2013
100
      that on top of Reed's concussion...
Oct 22nd 2013
102
           I think Reed was a hip pointer
Oct 22nd 2013
104
what's pathetic is that he said he already changed his game
Oct 22nd 2013
99
      I saw that, saying taht he was leading with his shoulder and shit
Oct 22nd 2013
101
*skins shopping Fred Davis (link)
Oct 22nd 2013
103
for a bag of chips?
Oct 22nd 2013
105
      Yeah, not sure they'll get much
Oct 22nd 2013
107
           I wanted to like Decorated Accessory
Oct 22nd 2013
109
good rundown of the black holes at safety
Oct 22nd 2013
110
I read that, and I just shook my head
Oct 24th 2013
111
There have to be decent guys out there for vet minimums
Oct 24th 2013
112
The cap penalty is huge
Oct 25th 2013
120
Merriweather Suspension cut to 1 game
Oct 24th 2013
113
basically.
Oct 24th 2013
114
the first hit could be ruled ambiguously, this SORT OF makes sense
Oct 24th 2013
115
      It just seemed like his repeated lack of care for the rule
Oct 24th 2013
116
Couple of Things
Oct 25th 2013
117
I liked Keim's report
Oct 25th 2013
118
That shit is so real, none of them are giving much catching
Oct 25th 2013
119
      we got shit backwards
Oct 25th 2013
121
           Backwards Stacking Fam
Oct 25th 2013
122
Helu is a pretty good vulture right now
Oct 25th 2013
123
      Helu's quick cutting and top side speed are really dangerous
Oct 25th 2013
124
@ Denver
Oct 31st 2013
125
We can hang with the Chargers.
Oct 31st 2013
127
Not many people have seen the Charges play so think they're soft
Nov 01st 2013
133
the frustrating part is that all of these game are winnable
Nov 01st 2013
128
I agree, a few different play calls
Nov 01st 2013
135
Good recap, as usual.
Nov 01st 2013
      I think the development of these players could be an issue.
Nov 01st 2013
131
           The last part of your statement is the key
Nov 01st 2013
136
                A few teams make WRs out of air
Nov 01st 2013
139
                     Detriot no longer really applies, Nate Burleson (as we saw)
Nov 01st 2013
140
                          I think detroit could do better and in impacts how DC should react
Nov 01st 2013
141
                               Garcon is good but he's not elite #1
Nov 01st 2013
143
                                    his talent may not be the problem
Nov 01st 2013
144
                                         Re:
Nov 01st 2013
146
Kyle Shanny in his own words
Oct 31st 2013
126
what are those things, Kyle?
Nov 01st 2013
129
I'm cool with this, here's why
Nov 01st 2013
130
      My issue is that he said "you've got to switch things up"
Nov 01st 2013
138
           Yep
Nov 01st 2013
142
                Dude smarting his team out of games
Nov 01st 2013
145
Good, honest interview with D Hall
Nov 01st 2013
132
Seems like he has learned a lot.
Nov 01st 2013
134
      That's a good ass article from D. Hall
Nov 01st 2013
137
           http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000109127
Nov 06th 2013
158
Fine. I take it back. Pierre, you're dope.
Nov 04th 2013
147
Chargers D left him open the whole game.
Nov 04th 2013
148
I think kyle did his job and garcon got open.
Nov 04th 2013
149
*sigh*
Nov 04th 2013
150
Yup
Nov 04th 2013
152
there are positives & negatives
Nov 04th 2013
153
eh, you can nitpick almost every win in the league really.
Nov 04th 2013
155
there's only 2 things consistent about this team
Nov 04th 2013
151
Good analysis & film from Bob vs SD and DEN
Nov 04th 2013
154
Homecoming Against the Chargers - My Observations
Nov 05th 2013
156
this.
Nov 05th 2013
157
Force ponder to beat us while we run the ball down their throat
Nov 06th 2013
159
      Man, if Amerson pans out that would be -huge-
Nov 06th 2013
160
      this team vaguely reminds me of Spurrier's
Nov 06th 2013
161
      kyle's arrogance is def. spurrier-esque
Nov 06th 2013
163
      I think that's the way they're going to play it
Nov 06th 2013
162
           i think AP will get his on a play or two... it shouldnt matter.
Nov 06th 2013
164
The only reason to explain the outcome of this game is bad karma
Nov 08th 2013
165
^^^
Nov 08th 2013
166
bad karma, bad coaching, EVIL OWNERSHIP
Nov 08th 2013
167
@ Minnesota Heartbreak
Nov 08th 2013
168
You said it.
Nov 08th 2013
169
      Those things are becoming more and more glaring
Nov 08th 2013
170
*ahem* Alfred Morris.... = Good...
Nov 08th 2013
171
man, I thought he was good
Nov 08th 2013
172
      His vision is amazing
Nov 12th 2013
178
           and patience.
Nov 12th 2013
180
Coming up on Philly
Nov 12th 2013
173
if we end up with double-digit Ls I think all bets are off.
Nov 12th 2013
174
Yeah. I was assuming there's no way he'd be fired this year.
Nov 12th 2013
175
Winnable games lost to details
Nov 12th 2013
177
No, I think he'll throw Haslett under the bus and Danny will K.I.M
Nov 12th 2013
179
      He'd have to look at Kyle for that as well
Nov 12th 2013
181
           NO way he fires his son
Nov 12th 2013
182
           please baby jesus make that happen.
Nov 12th 2013
183
           Sweet baby 183 lbs 39 oz baby jesus let this happen
Nov 12th 2013
184
           even still?
Nov 12th 2013
187
           Yeah, methinks the Shanny's are a package deal
Nov 12th 2013
185
                Honestly I wouldn't, I wouldn't fire my son
Nov 12th 2013
186
lol
Nov 12th 2013
176
I cannot stand these fair weather *skins fans
Nov 18th 2013
188
I personally don't see a lot of people turning on bob
Nov 18th 2013
196
      wow, apparently talk radio is blowing up with these idiots
Nov 18th 2013
198
           Washington fans will turn on you in a second.
Nov 18th 2013
200
quiet in here
Nov 18th 2013
189
we're bad man. What you want from us? you're a clown dogg.
Nov 18th 2013
190
      just sayin, it's a lot quieter now than in the beginning of the season
Nov 18th 2013
191
           Come on Shells take that shit to either the game post or your
Nov 18th 2013
192
           not quieter than you after the 2009 World Series tho
Nov 18th 2013
193
           http://tinyurl.com/nvcsetr
Nov 19th 2013
201
           RE: just sayin, it's a lot quieter now than in the beginning of the seas...
Nov 19th 2013
209
If Reed cannot play next week, Shanny better hope Davis doesn't ball
Nov 18th 2013
194
They don't like him, and say he misses assignments
Nov 18th 2013
195
Davis is an idiot with a terrible attitude.
Nov 18th 2013
197
      yeah, i am glad reed got his chance to shine
Nov 18th 2013
199
Debacle in Philly
Nov 19th 2013
202
^
Nov 19th 2013
203
We got three more division games.
Nov 19th 2013
204
      We always play the Cowboys tough so we might catch them
Nov 19th 2013
205
           it's like, Shanahan deserves to be fired
Nov 19th 2013
206
                I'm not sure if you saw Snider (WAPO writer)'s article
Nov 19th 2013
207
                     if there the league was re-drafted tomorrow
Nov 19th 2013
208
Boswell summed things up pretty well
Nov 22nd 2013
210
RE: Boswell summed things up pretty well
Nov 22nd 2013
211
      I'd love to see Dungy or Lovie or Jimmy
Nov 24th 2013
212
           Lovie would be great
Nov 24th 2013
213
                co-sign Lovie.
Nov 24th 2013
214
                Anyone but Mike Martz
Nov 25th 2013
215
                     god Martz would be terrible.
Nov 26th 2013
221
                Lovie is an EXCELLENT option...
Nov 26th 2013
220
                     I think that Radar will get much more developed if things continue
Nov 26th 2013
224
                     I think Dan would overpay for Gruden
Nov 26th 2013
225
                          Gruden is a younger version of Shanahan
Nov 26th 2013
232
                               Well if you were Reading between the lines last night
Nov 26th 2013
247
                                    Drafting Cousins was a terrible decision
Nov 27th 2013
253
                                    I peeped that.
Nov 27th 2013
255
My goodness. This team just shit the bed.
Nov 26th 2013
216
good.
Nov 26th 2013
217
I knew it was going to be ugly
Nov 26th 2013
218
      Yup. Not top 10 long-term even.
Nov 26th 2013
219
      Damn shame that RG is catching all of this heat.
Nov 26th 2013
222
           It's not like when he had cap room he signed good players
Nov 26th 2013
230
                Scrap heap players indeed...
Nov 26th 2013
238
Shameful Showing on Monday Night football
Nov 26th 2013
223
I can't identify ONE thing this team does consistently well.
Nov 26th 2013
226
You actually can go pretty far running the ball well.
Nov 26th 2013
227
      if ALL you can do is run the ball offensively? Your ceiling is low.
Nov 26th 2013
228
      Yup. Look at the 9ers.
Nov 26th 2013
229
I don't think Orakpo's improved since he came to the league
Nov 26th 2013
233
      not one bit
Nov 27th 2013
250
just came hear to say
Nov 26th 2013
231
RE: just came hear to say
Nov 26th 2013
234
i gotta give smuts a lot of credit
Nov 26th 2013
235
Yeah he saw the train wreck coming right before the ink dried.
Nov 26th 2013
236
I'm sorry we have to suffer through this.
Nov 26th 2013
237
      I think I was optimistic but stated it wouldn't work
Nov 26th 2013
239
      If he was just head coach maybe.
Nov 26th 2013
245
           I think we agreed Shanny as a Personnel guy wouldn'twork here
Nov 30th 2013
256
                Not here but a LOTTA people were happy at the hire
Nov 30th 2013
257
      Chris Cooley just said about Shanny regarding Fred Davis
Nov 26th 2013
242
           Shit is real, it was clear last night that they just don't like him
Nov 26th 2013
243
           "also he took my job" - Chris Cooley
Nov 26th 2013
248
McNabb a prophet
Nov 26th 2013
240
*skins have $18 million tied up in WR, most in league
Nov 26th 2013
241
$6M to Morgan I believe
Nov 26th 2013
246
The figure is salary cap dollars
Nov 27th 2013
252
and easily one of the worst WR corps in the league
Nov 27th 2013
251
I read this as
Nov 26th 2013
244
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKm5xQyD2vEq
Nov 26th 2013
249
SNYYYY-DERRRRRRRRR
Nov 27th 2013
254
At home against the Giants
Dec 02nd 2013
258
this team can play in the no huddle
Dec 02nd 2013
259
Chris Cooley touched on this
Dec 02nd 2013
262
kyle does this every.damn.week
Dec 02nd 2013
265
Yea they do, if you listen to some of the players they all stuff like
Dec 02nd 2013
269
RE: At home against the Giants
Dec 02nd 2013
264
      RE: At home against the Giants
Dec 02nd 2013
272
           If this team had a decent defense
Dec 03rd 2013
273
                Deion was on last night and was speaking some truth
Dec 03rd 2013
274
they gonna mess around and give the Rams the 1st overall pick
Dec 02nd 2013
260
Good.
Dec 02nd 2013
261
      Agree
Dec 02nd 2013
263
Why do so many people want Gruden as the next coach?
Dec 02nd 2013
266
YES.
Dec 02nd 2013
267
That is correct
Dec 02nd 2013
268
      Snyder will fire little people during a recession
Dec 02nd 2013
270
           I mean honestly its chump change to im
Dec 02nd 2013
271
Kansas City coming to town this weekend
Dec 05th 2013
275
Don't see how we win this game
Dec 05th 2013
276
HOLD UP!!!!!!!!!!! HOLD UP!!!!!!!!
Dec 05th 2013
277
Well RG hasn't even really been able to fake his disdain for Kyle
Dec 05th 2013
278
      My $ is on the one that doesn't have Chris Simms name tattooed on them
Dec 05th 2013
279
Wow, man, McNabb is pretty much vindicated...
Dec 08th 2013
280
I made a post on this and it was deleted
Dec 08th 2013
282
McNabb tha Prophet
Dec 08th 2013
281
On fucking point...
Dec 08th 2013
283
you.dont.know.what.prophet.means
Dec 09th 2013
286
Deion Sanders is on point with this analysis
Dec 09th 2013
284
Fascinating read (if you have the time)
Dec 09th 2013
285
Man....
Dec 09th 2013
287
YOUNG ARE YA'LL HEARING THIS PRESSER
Dec 09th 2013
288
i am a little relieved. its better for the franchise this way.
Dec 09th 2013
289
      I'm not trying to be a dick but you're talking like we have a decent
Dec 10th 2013
296
           He's right though.
Dec 10th 2013
298
Run out of negative adjectives showing Home against KC
Dec 10th 2013
290
I think I stopped caring after the Minnesota loss.
Dec 10th 2013
291
I can understand that
Dec 10th 2013
292
it blows but I'll never regret the RGIII trade.
Dec 10th 2013
293
The team is bad because they players don't trust Shanahan.
Dec 10th 2013
294
      Its tough when you're losing games like this
Dec 10th 2013
295
           LOL, orangutans be like, damn he's orange!
Dec 11th 2013
300
i just want snyder to keep leeting shanny dig this grave.
Dec 10th 2013
297
      Shanny's been a dick and ego heavy asshole from jump
Dec 11th 2013
299
           Agree. all the more reason for danny to let shanny party
Dec 11th 2013
302
                Yo this lawn is about to get real shitty
Dec 11th 2013
303
And its official KC Masterpiece to Start and Griffin Inactive
Dec 11th 2013
301
awesome. there are many positives to this...
Dec 11th 2013
304
I feel like KC is going to be right in the middle of that
Dec 11th 2013
306
      just enough to make people think we could have competed in the east...
Dec 11th 2013
307
      Oh yea that'll work for me
Dec 11th 2013
308
      Kirk gonna crash and burn behind this line.
Dec 11th 2013
309
           Well #1 Kirk moves better than people give him credit for
Dec 12th 2013
313
Griffin Inactive for the REST OF THE YEAR!
Dec 11th 2013
305
Even worse than I could've imagined.
Dec 12th 2013
310
I mean....
Dec 12th 2013
311
cosign 100%
Dec 12th 2013
312
This shit is incredible to me
Dec 12th 2013
314
He's trying to get fired, it's crystal clear he's trying
Dec 14th 2013
315
Got DAMN folks drinking the Cousins kool-aid this morning
Dec 16th 2013
316
I dunno why.
Dec 16th 2013
317
People like what they can easily qualify.
Dec 16th 2013
319
      this
Dec 16th 2013
324
      advanced analysis
Dec 16th 2013
329
dude gave 17 POINTS to the Falcons on turnovers
Dec 16th 2013
318
More Leakage This time out of Young Shanny's Oil pan
Dec 16th 2013
320
wow... I'm sure Dan Snyder has got to be kicking himself
Dec 16th 2013
321
      Dog Shanahan wants to meet with Snyder to guarantee total
Dec 16th 2013
322
           shanahan will be fired after the last game....
Dec 16th 2013
323
                I don't know, I was thinking the same thing but
Dec 16th 2013
325
                     I don't think its an extension, I think they're talking about letting hi...
Dec 16th 2013
326
                          you're going to sell about 5k tickets per game with Shan/Cousins
Dec 16th 2013
327
                          I don't even know what it would look like
Dec 16th 2013
328
                          a one year extension is key if he gets new coordinators
Dec 16th 2013
330
                               aka
Dec 16th 2013
331
                               Snyder can't be seriously contemplating keeping this man around.
Dec 16th 2013
332
                                    I would love to just see this get blown up
Dec 19th 2013
333
Dallas week, and no one cares
Dec 19th 2013
334
philpot cares if don't nobody else care
Dec 19th 2013
336
      Frustrating as he'll to watch and listen to all the noise
Dec 19th 2013
338
Grantland Analysis of RG3 (article)
Dec 19th 2013
335
i still defend the cousins pick
Dec 19th 2013
337
true
Dec 19th 2013
339
RE: i still defend the cousins pick
Dec 20th 2013
341
      the narrative has changed 180 degrees over the year
Dec 20th 2013
342
RE: Grantland Analysis of RG3 (article)
Dec 20th 2013
340
      RE: Grantland Analysis of RG3 (article)
Dec 20th 2013
343
      RE: Grantland Analysis of RG3 (article)
Dec 20th 2013
344
      why wouldn't you just sign a veteran with starting experience?
Dec 20th 2013
345
           They have one of those guys on the roster in Grossman
Dec 23rd 2013
348
                good point
Dec 23rd 2013
349
      this is what the entire article was about.
Dec 20th 2013
346
Man I love Doc Walker during football season
Dec 23rd 2013
347
I was JUST coming in here to get on this
Dec 23rd 2013
350
RE: Man I love Doc Walker during football season
Dec 23rd 2013
351
Oh, The Locker Room at 2 p.m. will be must listen to for sure
Dec 23rd 2013
352
      Oh I'm already locked in wating on that. lol
Dec 23rd 2013
353
If there's a double standard, it's in RG3's favor
Dec 23rd 2013
354
      Sorry homie, can't run with you on this
Dec 23rd 2013
355
      RE: Sorry homie, can't run with you on this
Dec 24th 2013
356
           If Cousins plays more than 2 game i'll give him the benefit of the doubt
Dec 24th 2013
357
           Love to see you explain Cousins performance against the Giants
Dec 29th 2013
363
      Who cares
Dec 24th 2013
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      "RG3 had a horrific season" <- first thing u said
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Has he been fired yet?
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At least we went have to hear about Cousins anymore
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man, I haven't watched since Bob was deactivated
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I want Snyder to go all Cosmo Spacely
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      That futuristic firing and shit....lmao
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Keim knows what the strategy should be.
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What I'm hearing and what I do, don't want
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AJ Smith please baby jesus no.
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      what is the case against him?
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           it could definitely be worse. Snyder could always do worse.
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Shall we look back on Shanny's time here?
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and that list barely mentions his moves as Team Emporer
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      117 worst moves Shanny made is not nearly as catchy or fun as
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           lol.
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           it's not over
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                Yea dog, its looking like more of the same
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Bruce Allen: I'M THE GM BITCH!
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Not that I expected much from Snyder
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      Dog its not changing
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      Yup. Snyder still owns the team.
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      Morocco Brown is functionally our new GM
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           very glad he was kept around
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                I've known him for over 20 years
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                     That makes me happy
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                     careful
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                          Dude is legit, he's the young inhouse voice we've been clamoring
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So not everyone was fired
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WHY?!!?!?!?!?!!?
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Haslett is still here?
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2 reasons that assistants are kept (for now):
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Why has the narrative on RGIII changes so quickly?
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Can we move this over to the off season post?
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combination of things
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smutsboy
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1. "What's the plan here, Shanahan?"
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Two weeks in a row they've looked unprepared.

Defense looks worse than last year.

Haslett was and is still a bad hire.

Merriweather was the best-case scenario at safety and he might be the dumbest asshole on the team.

RG3 will get healthy and eventually be a great QB again.

What's the plan for the rest of the squad?

  

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3. "Something has to give"
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They look like they didn't even have an offseason. Totally unprepared for the looks they're getting. Totally unable to make adjustments and make plays in crucial spots when the game is still in the balance. Its more than just Griff, the rest of those bammas need to be held accountable too.

- Radio and Haz might have to go if things continue like this, they'll be worse than last year's saints and they were the worse statistical defense in history.

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4. "Haslett is the defintion of old boys network"
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safe hire, got the job because he's a familiar face.

mediocre at best, awful at worst (closer to the latter right now).

He's a known quantity. He's been a DC or HC for 20 years and never built a great defense. Not once.

He's the type of decision you get when all of your decision-making power lies with a coach like Shanahan who was beyond his prime when you hired him.

  

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7. "I know you've been on record as saying as much from the beginning with h..."
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I don't disagree, this particular group looks way worse than many i've seen. Most of the time they're not even in position to make plays, sometimes they're out there and miss tackles, but most of the time, there's no one around.

That's just depressing to see a team get 3rd and 13 and get a 24 yard gain.

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2. "Week 2 at the Packers"
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- This Defense is horrible, the rookies are getting cooked all over the field and no matter where you put them they are out of position and there's always someone open. I mean that, there's ALWAYS someone open. I'm not sure if its the defensive calls or just the offensive schemes they're running against, but the spread em out and make run combo routes is working like a charm. They're spread out and fools are so far out of position that they're sprinting to the ball and just taking bad angles. Its ugly, he front line is getting bowled over all the time.

- The more I think about this, the more i'm thinking Radio and Haz might to take some of this blame. ALL of his people are out of place and missing assignments, when the always dependable Reed Doughty is missing assignments and there's no communication there might be a problem kids. I'm not really worried about the rookies missing assignments because they will do that, i'm way more frustrated by being out of position and the plethora of missed tackles. How in the world does your defensive alignment and scheme have Perry Riley matched up on Randall Cobb ONE on ONE??? That's a recipe for more points everytime. How is Jordy Nelson allowed an inside release with no safety help on the inside? These are scheme and assignment things that are dooming this team early. The D has been on the field alot so I'll give them that, but once teams stop dropping back we can do nothing, no passrush, no pass defenses, no nothing. BAD FOOTBALL. I'm watching DeAngelo Hall scream at the sidelines to change the scheme. Something has to give, either its Haz or we're going to get blown out of every game and all the defensive coaches get cleaned out.

- Hey thanks Brandon Merriweather, you proved why the Patriots were so readily able to move on from a Probowl safety. Dude has been leading with his head since he was in New England and this game as nothing new. he'll get a nice sized fine to go along with that headache, i'm not impressed.

- As bad as Griffin has been in the first half of games, he's not getting a lot of help there's a lot of dropped balls, yea I get it the balls aren't perfect, but if you as a professional wr get two hands on the ball, catch it. Josh Morgan, Fred Davis, Aldrick Robinson. Right now this team isn't good enough to overcome mistakes like that. The execution has been horrible, blocks are being missed and teams are selling out up front because they're not afraid of the long pass and the routes being run allow the D to be in a zone and just wait you out and by then the blitz has already either hurried the play or bust Griff in his head.

- I'm really worried about the game planning, because it seems that the other teams have an answer for everything that we're running in the beginning. I want them to go wide move that safety and one of those line backers outta there and then go at them, with the bunch all of the defenders are just sitting and waiting for the cut, the backside is getting killed and the zone read is anemic. There has to be some other offensive line set that they can run their plays out of because right now its looking bad.

- Fred Davis has probably missed his opportunity at a big contract, because Jordan Reed has come in, out played him and makes catches every week that aren't perfect, meanwhile Fred gets one thrown his way, hits him in the hands and he drops it. Reed cost less anyway, bye Fred.

- Great job by Alfred Morris taking what the D gave him and running hard, too bad the game was WAY outta hand by the time he was doing work.

- This team is abysmal on 3rd down. In the pointless 1st half they were 1 for 9 on 3rd down. You can't win games that way.

- I have no clue what happened to Kai Forbath, but got damn.

- This is abad team right now, they're undisciplined, they're not good at assignment football, and the idea of trying to stop Megatron when James Jones just ran up 164 on you is not a great feeling.

WE IN TROUBLE

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5. "Problem:"
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>Josh Morgan, Fred Davis, Aldrick Robinson.

None of these guys are good.

Through two seasons Bob has one good receiving target and while I like Garcon, nobody's going to mistake him for an All-Pro #1 WR.

  

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8. "Out of them all Morgan is tough, and is a good blocker"
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You can't say the same about either of the other two.

Fred looks like a shell of himself, and Robinson whenever he gets open doesn't attack the ball, and allows it to get on him and knocked away.

All the speed in the world, but can't catch.

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14. "I like Morgan"
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but he's an overpaid 3rd or 4th WR.

also as far as giving Bob weapons, he's not changing the equation.

  

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19. "precisely. He's adequate enough, and he can't get an extra yard at all"
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21. "you keep saying that"
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but toughness and blocking dont make a great or even adequate WR.
Morgan's skillset adds next to nothing to the team.

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22. "the team led the league is rushing last year with his help"
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problem is that the offense changed now and we need guys to actually get open and catch instead of being blocking decoys on the read option.

him and moss are satisfactory WR3s depending on the plays we are running.

  

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25. "right, he aint catching shit and cant get open"
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23. "His importance to the offense is even larger now"
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Someone has to step up now that we're not running that read option. If you've watched the plays on the edge almost all of them were because Josh Morgan's blocking, but in a traditional offense such as we're forced to run now his inability to separate and sit down in zones is a liability. His hands are also a liability as he's not catching the easy ones.

If at somepoint Griff finds his accuracy I think Josh can help out, but honestly he's way overpaid and may never be a legit #2. In the run offense he's a beast though.

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70. "word? because hes still absolutely useless"
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71. "Anybody else on the team that is a better option?"
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Cause I don't see anybody.

  

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72. "Bob's passing weapons are bad."
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Garcon is legit (but not elite)

Reed looks promising.

But collectively the receivers aren't doing anything.

  

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6. "Apparently Josh Morgan's mom works at the Navy Yard"
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Reportedly can't reach her at the the moment. Hopefully she is alright....

  

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9. "I would hate for her to be one of the 12"
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however you feel about the football team, no one wants that to happen

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10. "lol, that's an important clarification to make?"
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>however you feel about the football team, no one wants that
>to happen

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11. "Some kats take those jokes too far and stuff, I wanted to be on record"
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As not one of them.

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18. "I hear ya, it just sounded funny"
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12. "Good news is he did end up reaching her. "
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I feel for Josh though man. His mom was working at the Pentagon during Sept. 11 and he was at VT during that mass shooting. Luckily though they survived all those incidents. That's a blessing.

  

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13. "I know, that story is crazy."
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17. "Yo seriously that's a lot on it"
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serious circumstances but luckily dude is still trucking along.

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15. "They need to change that name"
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"If you wanna help us, fine. Sit down with your kids and make 'em study at night...otherwise, shoot THIS mothaf*cka!" (c) Morgan Freeman,

  

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16. "water, still wet. sky, still blue. post, still uninspired."
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20. "We know Redskins is racist, why do people keep saying it?"
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Peter King has decided to not use the word

why don't others follow his lead

I mean if the team was the Washington Ni**ers

or the DC Crackas

would people really say it?

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24. "poor JC"
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can't get a shot at a start in Cleveland and skipped over for Hoyer.

  

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27. "They know what JC will give them"
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Hoyer is the unknown, so they'll ride him until he's either awful or does well. JC is the safe choice after you see what Hoyer can give you.

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26. "one of few bright spots on this team is Jordan Reed"
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I'm really optimistic on his contribution so far and even moreso on his potential. Furthermore, I've been ready to get out of the Fred Davis business for about 3 years anyway.

  

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28. "You're about to get your wish, because Reed getting all of Fred's tick"
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He's been making catches in traffic, doing the things that most everyone else hasn't. We can get rid of Fred and get out from giving him a huge contract. I'm happy about this Reed kid.

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29. "Yup. Kid looks good."
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Not raw like he looked in camp.

The sooner Fred "decorated accessories" Davis leaves, the better.

Yet another missed Snyderrato draft pick.

  

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42. "all three of those 2nd rd draft picks"
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smh

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45. "I thought by pure luck Cerrato had hit on one of them."
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But nope.

John Keim wrote a while back that the reason they reached for two big WRs that round was because Snyder made it clear that's what he wanted.

What kind of owner does that shit? Besides Jerry Jones or Al Davis.

  

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46. "Orakpo would've gone in the first no matter what BUT..."
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...even he's kind of "meh"

  

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30. "They can't possibly a third straight performance like the first 2"
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can they?


Those firt 2 games seemed like I was in the bizarro world.

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31. "It's crazy, but I don't know what to expect this week..."
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I just think RG3 T-Shirt in the preseason was really prophetic. It's all about Operation Patience at this point.

Also, bottom line is that we were not as good as we thought we were coming out of last year. We are still suffering from the cap hit of the last two seasons and haven't been able to improve the team in key areas (O-line and secondary).

We are seeing an offense that used Robert's athletic ability and the read option to mask the fact that the offense line is not very good at all. now that RG is not a threat to run, it affects how the offense performs, from the pass protection all the way down to the run game.

I put a lot of our current struggles this year on Kyle Shanahan. The offense needs to be changed in order to protect our QB. my question is what would this offense look like if Kirk Cousins were running it and install that as our base. One that is not so reliant on RG3's speed and takes more advantage of his intelligence and passing ability.


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32. "RE: It's crazy, but I don't know what to expect this week..."
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>I just think RG3 T-Shirt in the preseason was really
>prophetic. It's all about Operation Patience at this point.
>
>Also, bottom line is that we were not as good as we thought we
>were coming out of last year. We are still suffering from the
>cap hit of the last two seasons and haven't been able to
>improve the team in key areas (O-line and secondary).
>
>We are seeing an offense that used Robert's athletic ability
>and the read option to mask the fact that the offense line is
>not very good at all. now that RG is not a threat to run, it
>affects how the offense performs, from the pass protection all
>the way down to the run game.
>
>I put a lot of our current struggles this year on Kyle
>Shanahan. The offense needs to be changed in order to protect
>our QB. my question is what would this offense look like if
>Kirk Cousins were running it and install that as our base.
>One that is not so reliant on RG3's speed and takes more
>advantage of his intelligence and passing ability.


Agreed on all accounts there. RG3 even with his struggles is not dumb. He has been fairly accurate under pressure and hasn't made too many bad reads. You can't keep him playing with this poor of a line though cause even though he is not making too many mistakes right now, that could all change in an instant.

Even with all of our offensive struggles we still score enough to win though. Our defense however is in shambles. I thought they would have been ok last week but after seeing that game I was wrong. Something needs to give with the D cause we aren't gonna win without them showing up. That's Cam's main problem in Carolina.

  

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33. "This is some good shit and one of the less reactionary responses"
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I like this and I think you're right, K Shanny hasn't been earning his check. I mean if folks are going to continue to put 2 extra people in the box and blitz right at you then you've got to call a wr screen, get them up field and throw in behind them. Instead he's running long 15 yard outs and when there's absolutely no time to get that play run.

We've got to find a way to put our players in a position to succeed and that to me means more roll outs, more Morris, and Reed.

They aren't as good as they thought, but because this division is so terrible there's still an opportunity to get into the race.

We'll see if we can stop Megatron on sunday.

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34. "well said. OL's been a problem for years."
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Polumbus is a fucking joke. We got away with it for one season bc of RG3.

But how Shanahan didn't make a move to improve the OL, especially Typer Polumbus, smacks of that Shanahan GM hubris.

The OL sucks.
The receiving options are mediocre at best.
The secondary sucks, and Jim Haslett is making it worse.

  

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35. "I think the O-line suffices for what the offense is supposed to do."
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the offense is SUPPOSED to move left and right, not right ahead. It doesn't work for conventional pass and run blocking. Last year it performed well as it was intended, but this year the poor talent on the line is being exposed for it's underwhelming effort at traditional run and pass blocking.

  

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36. "CORRECT, the only real athelete on the line is Williams"
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You can see that from his run 30 yards downfield on a wr screen last week.

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37. "Right. The OL plan only works when things go well"
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if there's adversity or the QB is limited for some reason, it all goes to shit.

In other words, it's not a great plan.

Polumbus was ok for a 1-year stop gap but it was a big failure to not replace him with someone, anyone.

  

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43. "meanwhile Tony Pashos is starting for the raiders"
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not that the Raiders are any good, but the two of them combined might make one decent RT

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38. "At least I'll have this."
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Dick Stockton calling London Fletcher "the old man from the sea" will probably be my highlight from this season.

  

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39. "Week 3 @ Home against the Detroit Lions"
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Where to start, well ok lets start with the Defense

- They got tired of seeing Baccari Rambo so out of place that they decided to hide him and go with a 1 safety base this week as Josh wilson as the one high. THINK about that, let that sink in, their base calls for 2 safeties, but the guys they have on the team at this position are so inept they chose their "best or 2nd best" (i use that term loosely) corner and put him at safety! It still didn't help because all of the big plays that happened because of miscommunication and poor game planning. I said this last year when I watched this defense get gashed, they were losing games on Wednesday. Other teams O Coordinators are watching film and calling the perfect plays against what our scheme is. It works perfectly, and it continues to work. The number of plays where there is a player running free in our secondary is amazing. Usually on 3rd and long plays, so that's coaching. To this point they've given up the most yards in NFL history. Again let that sink in. For all the love that Brian Orakpo gets he's done absolutely nothing, no pressure against the All Pro Offensive Front of Detroit, oh wait they're not all pro Rak just didn't do a damn thing. No pressure anywhere, other than in spurts, no pressure, the secondary is exposed and that's ugly. We're bad in man coverage, and horrible in zone because we don't read the routes right, either Perry or London may not get enough depth on their drop in coverage and that area is wide open. This is a bad unit kids and blame #1 needs to be leveled at our old friend Haslett. He needs to be held accountable, I know that no one wants to question Shanny but at somepoint we have to start looking at the historically bad defensive unit.

- The offense looks better, but tends to fall under the play calling of k. Shanny. They were running the ball really well and in a close game had the chance to continue running the ball, but let the Detriot D off the hook but not committing to the run. Then the poor execution doomed this team. The short of it, give Morris the ball and stop putting the game on Griff's shoulders

- Griff looks to be getting more comfortable taking those game speed snaps, but he's not himself yet. It has little to do with the running or throwing, but the thing that separated him from other young qb's and other qbs in general last year was his decision making. He didn't put his team in bad positions with poor decision making, this year he routinely puts his team in bad decisions with poor decision making.

Lets look at the two glaring mistakes from Sunday. First deep in Detroit territory escaping the pocket outside the tackle box with no one to throw to. There is only one play here "THROW IT AWAY" instead he holds the ball forever and at the last second makes desperate throw to the sideline that gets picked off. Taking sure points off the board. I believe this one led to a Detroit fg.

The next one and this is the most egregious. After making a great play to escape pressure and run up field for 22 yards Griff ignoring the rule slides head first and fumbles. When asked about this play later, he refers to the rule as silly. What I'd like to call silly is a player ignoring a SPECIFIC rule put in place to guard against something like this. All he has to do is slide feet first and the drive continues in a way that could put points on the board. There is momentum and the Detroit D is on their heels, instead of taking a lead or giving yourself a chance to win you decide against sliding feet first and give the game away.

- The wr corps is pretty bad people, Do you know who had the most yards from your wrs this past game? Pierre Garcon? NOPE, Josh Morgan, NOPE, Logan Paulsen, NOPE That would be Santanna Moss with 7 catches for 77yards. Garcon had 8 catches but Moss had more yards. Along with Aldrick Robinson's inexcusable drop this unit is not giving you enough to win games. If there were any other options at wide out I would say cut Robinson, but he's the only legitimate burner you have on the team but since he's a receiver his job is to catch the ball and he doesn't do that there's really no reason to have him on the team. If a kicker can't make kicks they cut him, same rules apply here with Robinson. SOMEONE ANYONE has to step up and catch a ball. Reed has a thigh contusion and I know Fred mysteriously showed up on the injury report with an ankle sprain, he's upset Reed is taking his snaps and I assume this is his way of protesting. They HAVE to make plays, we're getting almost nothing from them outside of Garcon and moss. DO better

- We're a bad team, we make mistakes bad teams make to lose games. We commit a lot of penalties in situation where it mkes an already bad play 15 yards worse. We're that team.

- We've gotten NOTHING from our return game, absolutely nothing this new kid is about worthless and we need to find a spark. I'm at the point of calling Brandon Banks back to get something going. If Niles straight ahead paul isn't returning kicks then fuck it just kneel and start at the 20.

- If they don't get a win against the Raiders season is almost effectively over. They better hope Tyrell Prior's concussion is strong enough to keep him out next week, because if its not we're in for a long game next week in Oakland.

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40. "so"
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what exactly did Shanahan expect to happen with this secondary this year?

What was his plan?

Merriweather and a 4th round rookie would work? really? with no back ups to speak of?

if I see one more camera cut to Haslett in the box looking confused/angry/lost, I'm going to punch something.

get a fucking clue, Haz.

receiving corps is bad.

Shanahan is bad.

This team is bad.

  

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41. "I never thought I would see the day when playing the "
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Raiders makes me scared. This team is pretty bad.

Griff holds the ball way too long trying to make something happen. The good thing is his arm is strong as heck, but he shouldn't be trying to make the play so much as he should just let some things go. Throwing the ball away is not the end of the world. He is not in abysmal territory though with his decision making. The reason why I give him some credit is because I do see him adjust to what is going on during games.

We actually would have a chance if one layer of our defense was serviceable. Nobody is good on that side of the ball. I'll give a compliment to Deangelo Hall though. He has been trying to earn his check. Defense needs a definite coaching overhaul. We don't have the best talent but the talent should not be this terrible.

This team gets anywhere near 8 wins and I am surprised because the way they are playing right now, 4-6 wins is likely their ceiling.

  

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44. "Pryor scares me with this terrible ass D we have"
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I mean they get no pressure up front so qb's have time to pick apart our sorry as secondary. Our lbs are either getting blocked or just out of place.

Griff is getting better every game, but this is a 16 game season, you can't wait on your qb get his shit together for a 1/4 of your season.

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47. "Week 4 @ Oakland Win heading into the Bye"
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- Ugly start with a blocked punt, man I bet these fools are REALLY missing Danny Smith. The special Teams have looked terrible all season and if this continues I can see the steams coach being held accountable. Perry Riley missed a stunt and the defender walked on Sav, they even talked about this exact thing during the week and still couldn't execute. Still no flash or even decent returns on punts or kick offs.

- Can you name the Redskin who is tied for 3rd in the league in tackles? London Fletcher? NOPE, there's no one else it could be right, wrong its Perry Riley. Dude may be the one that will have to step into London's shoes after this year. The issue is that Perry is really bad in space and gets lost in coverage a lot. In zone he usually doesn't get to his depth and that zone is wide open directly in front of the corners and safeties, but he's tackling well which is way more than you can say about really anyone else on the D.

- The Defensive front 4 had a good game against a really bad offensive line unit. Barry Coefield has been playing at a better level than really anyone on the line. If he doesn't have that cast on his hand the first 2 weeks there might've been a few more sacks. Rak had a decent game, but missed a sure interception that would've stopped the drive that lead to Oakland's 2nd td. Those are the types of plays that better plays (Kerrigan) makes all the time, meanwhile he gets his hands on a ball maybe 6 times a year and comes down with maybe 1. That shit is incredibly frustrating.

- The secondary played much better this week, primarily because the front 4 was pushing the pocket and they were playing against Matt Flynn (That dude is really stealing money) David Amerson's play on the ball in the middle of the field is exactly why we drafted him. Watching him get got again on the outside in a one on one by a subpar wr is once again NOT why we drafted him. Overall it was a much better game, lawd look at how much better this unit looked with some real pressure up front just by the front 4.

- If Al doesn't get hurt, he's going for 135 and possibly 2 tds. The run game looked quite good this week and should be the emphasis in Dallas. If they can run the ball they can control the clock and game and give themselves a chance to be in the game late so Dez and Romo don't run away from them.

- HELLO HELU! This is what a healthy Roy Helu can do for your team. Great open field instincts and cut backs. Good speed and vision, still not patient enough on the zone reads to open that backside up, but against a team like the raiders the front side was so open it didn't matter. Swing passes to him in the future could be big during this season.

- Griff looks better as he's supposed to with more time. Decision making isn't where I want it, but its better and he actually threw the ball the 2nd time after he was flagged for intentional grounding the first time. The less this team has to depend on him to win, the better off they'll be. He shouldn't have 300 yards passing, that's not their recipe for winning.

- All in all good win on the road after taking a uppercut to the chin early in the game. I'll take it, btu just know this will not be good enough for this team to even be in the game at Dallas. If they play like this, it'll be a wrap.

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48. "Out of the Bye Week at Dallas"
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- Looking at this game just solidifies that we're just not that good. Plain and simple we're just not that good.

- Will Montgomery and Kory Lichtensteiger had horrible games. Montgomery cost the team a td on the qb draw because he refused to at least put some pads on Sean Lee, instead he tried to get cute and cut him and lee went right around him and stopped Griff short. Good play call honestly with each defender accounted for but poor execution by Montgomery. Cost us points and basically was the look of how things would play out for the rest of the game. The O line was bad, You get DeMarcus Ware out of the game and you can't stop the pressure from being in Griff's face all night. They looked good in run game with First Round Talent Al.

- First Round was about to really get into a groove and then the game sort of got away from them with poor wr play, Griff missing passes and suspect playcalling. If this team can't keep the run game as part of the game plan they can't win. This much is evident.

- Griff looked spry, looked really good outside of the pocket but again his decision making was poor at times. He was REALLY feeling himself in the zone read to the point where there were times when Al had great running lanes but Griff pulled it back and got killed. I'm not sure if he's holding the ball too strong or what, but those intermediate touch passes are coming out like ducks constantly. He's missing the corner passes and missing open targets. He's not reading at the line either, the cowboys were in straight 4-3 zone, and a very makeable down and distance a draw play is a terrible call. Griff either doesn't have the ability to, or recognized too late that the play wouldn't work and didn't change the play in time. These are things that your franchise qb must do, get you in a better situation based off of the look that the Defense is giving you.

- I don't believe our Special Teams coach will be with the team much longer. This unit is abysmal and in a very winnable game this unit allowed the other team to take the game out of their hands. Huge returns from the other team, and NO positive returns from our side. On top of all that he cost the team 15 yards after they gave up a td because he couldn't get out of the damn way. We really missing Danny Smith this year.

- I wasn't too angry with the D, they didn't play great but played well enough to keep the offense within reach the O just didn't pull their half of the weight. They stopped the run well after injuring Murray which was the only way they were going to stay in that game. D hall played against a beast, but played well for the majority of the game, none of the same can be said about the other kats on the backend. EJ biggers getting beaten alot, David Amerson was knocked CLEAN OUT with a good helmet to helmit, maybe he'll be forced to do some homework and work on his zone technique. To be very honest they played decent, but they again came up with too many mistakes, penalties, and missed assignments. The biggest thing is that if you're going to put pressure on Tony Romo you've got to hit him and get him on the ground, because if he breaks the pocket he will kill you, which he did last night.

- Overall we're not a good team and have a good Bears team coming to town, so its looking like 1-5 coming up real soon kids.

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52. "RE: Out of the Bye Week at Dallas"
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>- Looking at this game just solidifies that we're just not
>that good. Plain and simple we're just not that good.

Year 4 of Shanahan.

>
>- Will Montgomery and Kory Lichtensteiger had horrible games.
>Montgomery cost the team a td on the qb draw because he
>refused to at least put some pads on Sean Lee, instead he
>tried to get cute and cut him and lee went right around him
>and stopped Griff short. Good play call honestly with each
>defender accounted for but poor execution by Montgomery. Cost
>us points and basically was the look of how things would play
>out for the rest of the game. The O line was bad, You get
>DeMarcus Ware out of the game and you can't stop the pressure
>from being in Griff's face all night. They looked good in run
>game with First Round Talent Al.

As we all knew, this OL was mediocre at best. Their deficiencies are masked by a mobile QB but as soon as we need them to pull their weight (ha), the offense stalls completely.

>
>- First Round was about to really get into a groove and then
>the game sort of got away from them with poor wr play, Griff
>missing passes and suspect playcalling. If this team can't
>keep the run game as part of the game plan they can't win.
>This much is evident.
>
>- Griff looked spry, looked really good outside of the pocket
>but again his decision making was poor at times. He was REALLY
>feeling himself in the zone read to the point where there were
>times when Al had great running lanes but Griff pulled it back
>and got killed. I'm not sure if he's holding the ball too
>strong or what, but those intermediate touch passes are coming
>out like ducks constantly. He's missing the corner passes and
>missing open targets. He's not reading at the line either, the
>cowboys were in straight 4-3 zone, and a very makeable down
>and distance a draw play is a terrible call. Griff either
>doesn't have the ability to, or recognized too late that the
>play wouldn't work and didn't change the play in time. These
>are things that your franchise qb must do, get you in a better
>situation based off of the look that the Defense is giving
>you.

To me Bob looks like a 2nd year QB, coming off a huge injury, who missed an entire off-season of fundamentals, film and practice.

I see flashes of his greatness from last year (he's still missing throws he hit easily last year), and have faith it will return.

>
>- I don't believe our Special Teams coach will be with the
>team much longer. This unit is abysmal and in a very winnable
>game this unit allowed the other team to take the game out of
>their hands. Huge returns from the other team, and NO positive
>returns from our side. On top of all that he cost the team 15
>yards after they gave up a td because he couldn't get out of
>the damn way. We really missing Danny Smith this year.

When is the last time we had decent special teams?


>
>- I wasn't too angry with the D, they didn't play great but
>played well enough to keep the offense within reach the O just
>didn't pull their half of the weight. They stopped the run
>well after injuring Murray which was the only way they were
>going to stay in that game. D hall played against a beast, but
>played well for the majority of the game, none of the same can
>be said about the other kats on the backend. EJ biggers
>getting beaten alot, David Amerson was knocked CLEAN OUT with
>a good helmet to helmit, maybe he'll be forced to do some
>homework and work on his zone technique. To be very honest
>they played decent, but they again came up with too many
>mistakes, penalties, and missed assignments. The biggest thing
>is that if you're going to put pressure on Tony Romo you've
>got to hit him and get him on the ground, because if he breaks
>the pocket he will kill you, which he did last night.

The secondary is still a complete rollercoaster ride on a good day. DHall is our best player by far.

That's weird & probably a bad sign.

>
>- Overall we're not a good team and have a good Bears team
>coming to town, so its looking like 1-5 coming up real soon
>kids.

Then after that is Denver.

1-6.

  

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66. "RE: Out of the Bye Week at Dallas"
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O line is dreadful there's not a lot we can do to cover that up. They're ok going forward but moving backwards and protecting they're terrible. Griff will face a lot of pressure in his face all season at this rate.

- D. Hall has been playing really well with zero consistency at safety I don't think people truly understand how important that is. He's been the best player on the D and that's better than Kerrigan and MUCH better than Orakpo (who by the way played last night, i know it was hard to tell since you didnt' hear his name get called once)

- Even if you believed that their special teams wasn't great last year where they were THIS bad, they were terrible the entire game in all aspects Kai was off because he wasn't used to kicking 50 yarders on a rehabbed quad and groin tear. Short fine, btu full extension of the leg no bueno. This unit is one of the worst i've seen in football period.

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>- D. Hall has been playing really well with zero consistency
>at safety I don't think people truly understand how important
>that is. He's been the best player on the D and that's better
>than Kerrigan and MUCH better than Orakpo (who by the way
>played last night, i know it was hard to tell since you didnt'
>hear his name get called once)

Man I have been telling folks D.Hall has been the only slight saving grace this team has. I have not had too many bad things to say about dude this season. He has been giving it his all out there. He ain't shutting it all down but he is pretty damn close. It's just too bad he is all alone out there. These dudes make me wish we had an old ass Fred Smoot.

I want a refund from Orakpo though. That dude is a waste of money right now. Man this dude be going for games at a time now without his name being mentioned. That is how bad it is right now. He just be coasting. Doing nothing but trying to hype himself up.

Its ridiculous that a talented LB core is this terrible. They all can't be in this bad of a slump. Haslett gotta go. Get somebody else that can run this 3-4 better than him...

  

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73. "D. Hall has been good this season and through the end of last"
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He's good with me.

I was on the Orakpo wagon real good until I saw a stat that said he didn't have an in division sack until his 3rd season as a pro. I'm like wait there are no elite tackles in our division and you can't get any of the qb's on the ground? Kerrigan as versatile as he is really benefits from a push from Rak, and since Rak hasn't done that much i'm he's suffering. Now truth be told Tryon Smith is really good and will be a mainstay at tackle for probably the next 10 years but Rak looked overmatched and couldn't get away from him. Rob Jackson isn't in football shape yet, and as much as I like Perry he's a liability in coverage and tends to make 1 boneheaded play a game. Usually costing us points.

Defense is bad fam.

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76. "We're in big trouble the Orakpo/Kerrigan pair fails"
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We can't afford for our few #1 draft picks to not pan out.

  

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77. "Unless Orakpo isn't 100% healthy or he no longer juicing"
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I'm going to say we're at what we're going to get from them. They won't be dominant but they'll be good to above average for the duration of time they play together.

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80. "with a decent secondary we'd be ok I guess"
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but this secondary is one of the worst in the NFL.

  

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49. "I'm waiting for the next GM"
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That trumps everything else for me.

  

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50. "Do you believe Allen is going somewhere?"
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51. "Meant Shanahan, the actual decision maker."
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And no, sadly I don't expect him to get fired this year or summer though I can always dream.

  

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53. "Shanny's here dog, he's here for the duration"
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I feel like this year is a wash, and i'm ok with it at this point

That schedule is murder's row anyway

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54. "Snyder's here for the duration."
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And I'm not sure I expect him to ever make a good front office or head coach hire.

Mediocre has-beens like Allen, Shanahan & Haslett are the best he can do.

  

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55. "You know mediocrity is a step up for him"
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So maybe he learns 12 years at a time.

I really don't like younger Shanny, and Haslett has been terrible all year. I'd love to see them go after a really inspired hire. Ole boy from Stanford, or even Texas A&M.

We all know it won't happen but i'm sayin

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56. "Mike Shanahan is still waiting to win a playoff game"
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with a team he built as Pres/GM.

What's funny is that vs Seattle last year, Shanahan The HC probably prevented Shanahan The Prez from winning that first game.

We're rootin for you mikey!

  

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59. "You know how I feel about that Seattle game"
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Very winnable home game where the coach's feelings about a player superseeded the team and they lost.

He's not getting that first win this season so we'll look to teh 5th year of shanny and if he's not getting it done then hey its time to move on. As long as young shanny is not here in his wake, I want them all gone, both shanny's and Haz.

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63. "This is playing out exactly like it did in Denver."
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Good enough Pres/GM to keep his job for a while.

Not good enough to actually succeed in the post-season (or even get there regularly).

Gets fired after a while.

Anyone who expected something different was wearing burgundy glasses or is named Dan Snyder.

Shanahan wasn't going to come here and all the sudden become a good GM/Pres.

He wasn't going to turn back the clock to the mid 90s.

  

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57. "I mean, he's tried the other route too"
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Steve Spurrier, Jim Zorn, et al.

  

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58. "Spurrier was an incredibly uninspired hire"
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A man who by all judgements at the NFL level was not ready for the job and wouldn't get a shot anywhere else. He saw the money and went, but he didn't really want to leave college. Hence why he's still at SC enjoying getting that knob slobbed by boosters young and old.

Zorn was a position coach who only got the job because the guys that Dan really wanted he waited too long to get and signed with other teams. Lets not look at this like he was just picking young smart guys for the job. If you'll notice Zorn has gotten no higher than position coach since he left here. It was a terrible hire then, and it looks even worse in hindsight.

I get your point, but there are young kats in the league that everyone has agreed are ready to take the next step, someone just has to take a chance on them.

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68. "Spurrier was a bold move. I liked it at the time.Obviously it didn't wor..."
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64. "and failed badly."
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which is why I don't expect Snyder to make a good hire any time soon.

  

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79. "We'll know that Snyder's grown, when he hires a defensive guy"
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...as head coach.

The only defensive guy he went and hired was Marty early on and then he let him go after only a year.

Snyder's problem is he keeps trying to recreate the Joe Gibbs Era, trying to find some offensive mastermind that calls his own plays and leaves the defensive side of the ball to the d-coordinators.

Every hire has followed this pattern (except for Marty)...
1. Spurrier
2. Gibbs II
3. Zorn
4. Shanahan
5. Hiring Shanahan's son as a possible successor (this was actually discussed back when Shanahan initially came on board, as a sort of succession plan)

Snyder is obsessed with having a top offense, not understanding that you can still have a top offense with a defensive coach as your head coach a la Belichek, Schwartz, Dungy (back in the day) etc...

I agree in not wanting Shanahan here anymore, but I don't trust Snyder to hire the right guy, at all.


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my thoughts,

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82. "I agree"
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but the problem is also that Snyder has shown no ability to make good football management hires period.

Gibbs was a no-brainer but even he only managed to win one playoff game.

The rest of this is bad hires or mediocre hires.

Offense, defense, it doesn't matter. I don't know what Snyder has shown that would lead anyone to believe he is capable of being a shrewd and effective owner as far as W/L.

  

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83. "I agree with both of ya'll "
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I'll say this though, it only takes one hire to make you a genius. NE got Bellichick and Brady and mr. Kraft is the classiest owner in sports, The Saints have Payton and Brees, everyone loves the saints owner, Pittsburgh is reknowned for their coaching hires, and NYG has as of recent done quite well with Coughlin as the coach even though he was a wr coach.

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81. "Salary cap implications cannot be denied"
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60. "From an already subpar unit the unspecial teams "
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Loses Bryan Kehl (Their best tackler) and Nick Sunderberg (one of the best long snappers in the league) both of which for the year.

wow London if there was ever a time to call it career bro, its now .

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61. "Damn."
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And they had to let Lorenzo Alexander go before the season.

  

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62. "I feel like shifting money to next year and the year after to keep"
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Zo would've been warranted, I know it went against their plan but double damn he's a glue guy, you've got to find a way to keep the glue guys.

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74. "And I bagged on Danny Smith..."
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They are 6-9 in FG attempts. 66.7% puts them at 29th in the league.

Sav Rocca is still the lowest ranking punter in the NFL in avg. yards and net yards punting.

The return and coverage units are the 3rd most penalized units in the NFL. The 1st and 2nd most penalized teams (St. Louis and Detroit) have both played one more game than the Redskins.

Ranked 30th in Kickoff Return Average and 27th in Punt Return Average.

Ranked 28th in Kickoff Return Average Against and 32nd in Punt Return Average Against.

The Punt Coverage unit has now given up 1 return touchdown and 1 blocked-punt return touchdown.

  

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75. "I know."
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I couldn't wait for him to be gone.

But damn.

  

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78. "Better the Devil you know.........."
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67. "You stylin shells? "
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84. "Good article about Shanhan's future."
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Next year is the last of his contract. He's unlikely to go into next season on a final year.

He'll probably push Snyder for a new contract.

My feelings on that decision are obvious.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/mike-shanahans-contract-status-hovers-over-washington-redskins-and-daniel-snyder/2013/10/16/b3b9dd66-3674-11e3-be86-6aeaa439845b_story.html

  

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85. "let's rap cuz"
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for years you were the most pragmatic Skins fan on the boards. Most all of your predictions came true, as cynical as they often were. I'll even admit that you helped me view this team through more rational lenses.

But...

you pined for Mike Shanahan the coach, no?

I mean I ain't carrying NO AGENDA. I have NO ULTERIOR MOTIVE here Smuts. I'm just recalling what I'm pretty sure is true - you wanted Shanahan the coach.

Now, I also recall you openly rejecting Shanhan as Head Football Honcho in Ashburn. But oddly enough I don't think the talent is as bad as the execution, at least right today. Shanny the GM has been overall pretty solid - Kerrigan, Morris, obviously Griffin, Jarvis Jenkins, Amerson, Neild, Royster, Riley...I mean those are all pretty good if not very good and in some cases even great players.

So all this to get to my question - how do you overall view Shanahan the head personnel man? Like if you were giving a letter grade, would you give him anything lower than a B?

  

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86. "RE: let's rap cuz"
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>for years you were the most pragmatic Skins fan on the
>boards. Most all of your predictions came true, as cynical as
>they often were. I'll even admit that you helped me view this
>team through more rational lenses.
>
>But...
>
>you pined for Mike Shanahan the coach, no?

I was -OK- with him being hired as head coach. But as soon as he wanted the Prez job, I hated the hire.

Then I saw him hire Haz, remake the defense for no reason, and I was pretty much against the entire project.

He's been exactly as expected. A past-his-prime head coach who won't be the worst in the league, but is not going to build or coach a perennial playoff team. So in that case, what's the point?

brownie points for us no longer being a laughingstock? that's not good enough.

>
>I mean I ain't carrying NO AGENDA. I have NO ULTERIOR MOTIVE
>here Smuts. I'm just recalling what I'm pretty sure is true -
>you wanted Shanahan the coach.

it's possible I was ok with it, but I really don't recall -wanting- him.

>
>Now, I also recall you openly rejecting Shanhan as Head
>Football Honcho in Ashburn. But oddly enough I don't think the
>talent is as bad as the execution, at least right today.

Strongly disagree.

Let's look at the units (let alone the record, which in four years is sub .500 with no playoff wins)

The OL is one elite player and 4 journeymen who are getting exposed this year.

RBs: great, as expected

QB: great, total credit for making the trade for Bob

WR: pretty bad. Especially if offense needs to carry this team. Hank is a bust at this point. Garcon is elite. Reed looks good but very raw. The rest is garbage.

DL: pretty good.

LB: pretty good. will be bad once London retires and there's no one to replace him

secondary: maybe the worst the in the league

special teams: definitely one of the worst in the league.

Haz is doing a shitty job
The ST coach is doing a shitty job.

There's some talent on this team. But there's talent on every team. Except maybe the Jaguars.

This team is exactly what you see. Will struggle to be .500. If the QB plays out of his mind, the team is capable of sneaking into the playoffs and losing.




>Shanny the GM has been overall pretty solid - Kerrigan,

good. but the number of high picks on defense, this plan doesn't seem to be working well

>Morris, obviously Griffin,

both incredible picks

>Jarvis Jenkins,

hasn't shown or achieved much. at this point is rotational

> Amerson,

completely unproven. could be a good pick but we'll have to see.

>Neild,

who?

>Royster,

He's a third string RB

>Riley

great pick

Basically Shanahan has hit on his first round picks, which is the bare minimum a GM/pres should be able to do.

Your money is made in FAgency and late rounds and Shanahan hasn't done well in either.

Where are the late round OL starters? where's the depth? How is the defense this bad four years into a rebuild?

>
>So all this to get to my question - how do you overall view
>Shanahan the head personnel man? Like if you were giving a
>letter grade, would you give him anything lower than a B?

This year? D.

last year I might have given him a C.

This roster is bad man.

  

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87. "More Smuts point, we go into the draft with huge needs every year"
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Now granted being hamstrung by that 18 Mil penalty absolutely hurt their ability to grab some good depth on the OL and in the secondary.

Smuts and I have talked ad nauseum about how changing a Top 10 performing D to a 3-4 doubled the needs of the team overnight. Then to bring Haz along with it, was one of those things where you're immediately weary if you're familiar with his track record.

Its tough because the team was so incredibly devoid of talent before Shanny got her perspective makes us realize that damn we have to at least give him credit for fielding a competitive team now. The problem is "his guys" aren't panning out. The Joshua Morgan's, Hank, Jarvis, jury still out on Merriweather. We'll see if any of those kats actually start to show some return on investment.

He has a knack for finding RB's so he's done that again.

They're definitely better than 4 years ago, but still not good or even consistently stacked with talent.

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88. "respect your opinion, but arguably none of the negatives are true"
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Fri Oct-18-13 04:11 PM by Awburn

  

          

>Now granted being hamstrung by that 18 Mil penalty absolutely
>hurt their ability to grab some good depth on the OL and in
>the secondary.

back to back penalties left this team's cap at 85% of the normal during the critical 3rd and 4th years of shanny's tenure. The impact of this on talent acquisition and their ability to build up the special teams roster cant be overstated.


>Smuts and I have talked ad nauseum about how changing a Top 10
>performing D to a 3-4 doubled the needs of the team overnight.
>Then to bring Haz along with it, was one of those things where
>you're immediately weary if you're familiar with his track
>record.

folks harp on this, but the players we had in the 4-3 were old, overpaid and about to be replaced anyway. Guys like Wynn, Griffin, and Daniels. If you are going to switch, doing in immediately when you are about to turnover the d-line anyway makes sense. Haslett prolly was a bad hire and needs to go, but the teams needs were immense from day one regardless of the scheme switch.

>Its tough because the team was so incredibly devoid of talent
>before Shanny got her perspective makes us realize that damn
>we have to at least give him credit for fielding a competitive
>team now. The problem is "his guys" aren't panning out. The
>Joshua Morgan's, Hank, Jarvis, jury still out on Merriweather.
>We'll see if any of those kats actually start to show some
>return on investment.

Hank and Jarvis both had injuries that undermined their development. Morgan is overpaid, but not a bust depending on which offense kyle feels like running. Most of the dumb stuff they did was in year one with the mcnabb and jammal brown trades. After that, they've been solid despite limit resources.

>He has a knack for finding RB's so he's done that again.

yup.

>They're definitely better than 4 years ago, but still not good
>or even consistently stacked with talent.

If this is the team that shanny built in year 4 without the cap hits, i would agree with everyone that he is mediocre. But between the lack of picks early on and the inability to do anything in FA recently, to me shanny the GM gets a pass. We would have gone after antoine winfield with more money, could have signed a competent safety to compete with Rambo early on, and resigned Alexander. Those moves would have made a difference, but instead we have the same or worse problems that we had two years ago. Spending at an 85% cap level only goes so far.

I actually think he's been a better GM than coach. Kyle doesn't look like he knows what the eff he is doing out there. McNabb threw for a record number of yards, then we had the read option offense, then we had the traditional offense for 4 games before switching back. The coaching is suspect. Hiring burns looks suspect now, and these questionable hires are the coaches fault.


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89. "It's all good, so lets discuss"
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>back to back penalties left this team's cap at 85% of the
>normal during the critical 3rd and 4th years of shanny's
>tenure. The impact of this on talent acquisition and their
>ability to build up the special teams roster cant be
>overstated.

Are you agreeing with me here? I can't tell.

>folks harp on this, but the players we had in the 4-3 were
>old, overpaid and about to be replaced anyway. Guys like Wynn,
>Griffin, and Daniels. If you are going to switch, doing in
>immediately when you are about to turnover the d-line anyway
>makes sense. Haslett prolly was a bad hire and needs to go,
>but the teams needs were immense from day one regardless of
>the scheme switch.
>
I think its a lot easier to find players to fill in spaces opposed to changing over the entire defensive scheme you're running. Some of the line were old but a guy like Kedrick Goldsten is and was never going to be a star, but he was good in that D, he has no place in a 3-4. They drafted for the 3-4 and have placed talent on the D line with guys like Stephen Bowen, Carriker (who still can't get right), Orakpo is overrated and I suspect he's been doping, but he's good not great. There's no way to front on Perry Riley, Kerrigan, and Even Rob Jackson. I'm good with that. I'm saying relation to an Offense that had no weapons and still doesn't you've spent a ton on the defensive side of the ball and with a bad coaching hire that effectively makes all those moves moot.

>Hank and Jarvis both had injuries that undermined their
>development. Morgan is overpaid, but not a bust depending on
>which offense kyle feels like running. Most of the dumb stuff
>they did was in year one with the mcnabb and jammal brown
>trades. After that, they've been solid despite limit
>resources.
>
4 years for Hank, at this point he's given almost nothing and if he doesn't find a way to produce and give more to the team, the Hank Experiment is over. Jarvis i'll give you as he was poised to have a break out year until his injury. Hank i don't have a lot of faith in as he doesn't get much separation and still after all this time still has suspect hands.

>If this is the team that shanny built in year 4 without the
>cap hits, i would agree with everyone that he is mediocre. But
>between the lack of picks early on and the inability to do
>anything in FA recently, to me shanny the GM gets a pass. We
>would have gone after antoine winfield with more money, could
>have signed a competent safety to compete with Rambo early on,
>and resigned Alexander. Those moves would have made a
>difference, but instead we have the same or worse problems
>that we had two years ago. Spending at an 85% cap level only
>goes so far.

I completely understand why you'd feel that way, I just dont' agree. There are glaring holes on the O Line that obviously they weren't able to address maybe due to the cap hit or because they believed in the guys they had. Griff's running ability completely masked their inability to pass block. You and i both know one thing Shanny does is believe in his lines, but this one isn't very good and that's been evident this year. I don't know if its just over confidence in a system or what, but that's an area that's been completely overlooked. Yea Morgan is overpaid incredibly, but as i've stated many times on the edge he's one of the best if not the best blocking wr we have. Problem is we pay him to catch passes as well and to this point in the season just hasn't done that. I agree the 85% has hamstrung this team incredibly. I'm just not going to give them as much of pass.

>I actually think he's been a better GM than coach. Kyle
>doesn't look like he knows what the eff he is doing out there.
>McNabb threw for a record number of yards, then we had the
>read option offense, then we had the traditional offense for 4
>games before switching back. The coaching is suspect. Hiring
>burns looks suspect now, and these questionable hires are the
>coaches fault.
>

He's good at finding gems in certain aspects of his system, but deficient in others. Here's the thing, the read option was fine, it worked incredibly well and griff never got hit while running it, he got hit playing hero ball and not getting on the ground. Say whatever you want about the scheme the shit was very effective. Kyle as an OC has never impressed me and I generally scream at him every week. They ran Danny Smith out of town, and now folks are screaming for the good ole days when he was here. The kat that's running that unit hasn't really gotten the players to buy in and its showing. Its early but at somepoint its no longer on the coaches the players have to step up. Special teams is a mess.

I'm sure Shanny will get another couple of years because of that penalties. If we get to year 6-7 and that O line still isn't able to protect and we're still not hitting on wrs then the finger is going to have to pointed squarely at Shanny.

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90. "RE: It's all good, so lets discuss"
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>
>>back to back penalties left this team's cap at 85% of the
>>normal during the critical 3rd and 4th years of shanny's
>>tenure. The impact of this on talent acquisition and their
>>ability to build up the special teams roster cant be
>>overstated.
>
>Are you agreeing with me here? I can't tell.

you mentioned the cap hit without really getting into the severity of it. if the average dudes budget at work was cut 15%, people would not have the same expectations as they have for the skins.


>>folks harp on this, but the players we had in the 4-3 were
>>old, overpaid and about to be replaced anyway. Guys like
>Wynn,
>>Griffin, and Daniels. If you are going to switch, doing in
>>immediately when you are about to turnover the d-line anyway
>>makes sense. Haslett prolly was a bad hire and needs to go,
>>but the teams needs were immense from day one regardless of
>>the scheme switch.
>>
>I think its a lot easier to find players to fill in spaces
>opposed to changing over the entire defensive scheme you're
>running. Some of the line were old but a guy like Kedrick
>Goldsten is and was never going to be a star, but he was good
>in that D, he has no place in a 3-4. They drafted for the 3-4
>and have placed talent on the D line with guys like Stephen
>Bowen, Carriker (who still can't get right), Orakpo is
>overrated and I suspect he's been doping, but he's good not
>great. There's no way to front on Perry Riley, Kerrigan, and
>Even Rob Jackson. I'm good with that. I'm saying relation to
>an Offense that had no weapons and still doesn't you've spent
>a ton on the defensive side of the ball and with a bad
>coaching hire that effectively makes all those moves moot.

you seem to be arguing against the move to the 3-4 in general, which i wont try to defend. Once Shanny decided to make that change, I focus on how he implemented it. From a personnel view given that the previous 4-3 defense needed a youth movement anyway he did a solid job. Only Orakpo and Fletcher are left as starters from the 4-3 front seven but we'd still have 5 new guys up there if we kept the 4-3 given how old/bad (in rocky mcintosh's case) the talent was. By 2011 the 3-4 defense had become #13. Arguably, the ranking would have improved in 2012 and 2013 with more money to spend on skill/depth at DB.

>>Hank and Jarvis both had injuries that undermined their
>>development. Morgan is overpaid, but not a bust depending on
>>which offense kyle feels like running. Most of the dumb
>stuff
>>they did was in year one with the mcnabb and jammal brown
>>trades. After that, they've been solid despite limit
>>resources.
>>
>4 years for Hank, at this point he's given almost nothing and
>if he doesn't find a way to produce and give more to the team,
>the Hank Experiment is over. Jarvis i'll give you as he was
>poised to have a break out year until his injury. Hank i don't
>have a lot of faith in as he doesn't get much separation and
>still after all this time still has suspect hands.

Folks raved about Hank being a first or second round value when he was selected. If Hank doesnt pan out, it may be Kyle's fault. not that we should cuz the line sucks, but if we used more three and four WR sets, he'd get more reps. His time also gets cut by Moss who can't catch anything at this point and might be holding hank back.

RG3's early inaccuracy also mean that all of the WRs are underperforming at this point. I'd give hank a pass until the second half of the season.

>>If this is the team that shanny built in year 4 without the
>>cap hits, i would agree with everyone that he is mediocre.
>But
>>between the lack of picks early on and the inability to do
>>anything in FA recently, to me shanny the GM gets a pass.
>We
>>would have gone after antoine winfield with more money,
>could
>>have signed a competent safety to compete with Rambo early
>on,
>>and resigned Alexander. Those moves would have made a
>>difference, but instead we have the same or worse problems
>>that we had two years ago. Spending at an 85% cap level only
>>goes so far.
>
>I completely understand why you'd feel that way, I just dont'
>agree. There are glaring holes on the O Line that obviously
>they weren't able to address maybe due to the cap hit or
>because they believed in the guys they had. Griff's running
>ability completely masked their inability to pass block. You
>and i both know one thing Shanny does is believe in his lines,
>but this one isn't very good and that's been evident this
>year. I don't know if its just over confidence in a system or
>what, but that's an area that's been completely overlooked.
>Yea Morgan is overpaid incredibly, but as i've stated many
>times on the edge he's one of the best if not the best
>blocking wr we have. Problem is we pay him to catch passes as
>well and to this point in the season just hasn't done that. I
>agree the 85% has hamstrung this team incredibly. I'm just not
>going to give them as much of pass.

Morgan's blocking yesterday directly let to TDs, so i dont need him to catch anything really. I think i am more inclined than most to give the team a pass due to the lack of money. $36M would have translated into 4-6 decent players and some depth at C, RT, CB, and S and solved a big portion of the teams problems.

>>I actually think he's been a better GM than coach. Kyle
>>doesn't look like he knows what the eff he is doing out
>there.
>>McNabb threw for a record number of yards, then we had the
>>read option offense, then we had the traditional offense for
>4
>>games before switching back. The coaching is suspect. Hiring
>>burns looks suspect now, and these questionable hires are
>the
>>coaches fault.
>>
>
>He's good at finding gems in certain aspects of his system,
>but deficient in others. Here's the thing, the read option was
>fine, it worked incredibly well and griff never got hit while
>running it, he got hit playing hero ball and not getting on
>the ground. Say whatever you want about the scheme the shit
>was very effective. Kyle as an OC has never impressed me and I
>generally scream at him every week. They ran Danny Smith out
>of town, and now folks are screaming for the good ole days
>when he was here. The kat that's running that unit hasn't
>really gotten the players to buy in and its showing. Its early
>but at somepoint its no longer on the coaches the players have
>to step up. Special teams is a mess.
>
>I'm sure Shanny will get another couple of years because of
>that penalties. If we get to year 6-7 and that O line still
>isn't able to protect and we're still not hitting on wrs then
>the finger is going to have to pointed squarely at Shanny.

agreed.

  

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106. "My question to ya'll"
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Who would you guys want as a DC? Its obvious that folks don't like Haslett, myself included, but who do you think is out there that would get the best out of these guys defensively?

  

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108. "hell if I know"
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But give me the resources available to a GM or owner and I'll get you a list by the end of the day.

  

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91. "i predict listening to 106.7 today will be insufferable nm"
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does it even matter?

  

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93. "then don't listen ya bish. HAIL"
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92. "Run the ball. Play action."
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Have a chance to win.

Excellent work by Aldrick Robinson doing the one thing he's on this team to do.

Catch a bomb that hits him in the chest.

Bob was feelin it yesterday.

  

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94. "winning despite that Special teams and D speaks to the offense/Griff"
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I mean each of those units is just abysmal. And STILL the Skins put up 45, introduced Jordan Reed to the world, and unleashed the thunder and lightning running back tandem we've all been waiting for.

Above all else THEY WERE ACTUALLY FUN TO WATCH for the first time this season. This offense is a thrill to view when it's clicking.

Griffin is who he is. For better or worse he'll do literally anything for a first down, for 30 yards, for a TD. At this point you can't teach an old dog a new sliding or running out of bounds trick. But I'll tell you what, these guys play FOR HIM. Helu, Morris, Trent all of em.

You take the good with the bad in his case. Yesterday it was a lot of good, and when he's inviting contact right on the edge of the sideline from guys who have 50+ pounds on him you just have to hold your nose and wince. That's the complete Robert Griffin package; I can't help but admit I love all of it.

  

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95. "Agree, I'll get into some of the points morein my game post"
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But yea, what you've got with Griff is what you're going to get. WHen he tried to be a different qb, he was, and he was less effective. This is the show stopping young qb we have to have

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96. "Bob's running much smarter this year."
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Getting out of bounds. Getting down.

His biggest problem IMO is still trying to make too much happen in the pocket/passing. He stands around for too long, or rolls out for too long.

It's a problem a lot of young QBs have and I fully expect it to get better.

Edit: most of the worst hits he took last year were rolling out too long, or holding the ball too long. And the original injury was diving for a first down on like 4th and 20 to keep a game alive which they eventually won over the SB winning team.

In other words, this shit got way overblown.

Edit II:

I still don't give Shanahan a pass for keeping him in the Seattle game. It was obvious Cousins would've been more effective, and playing injured led to another injury for Bob. That's on the coach.

  

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97. "Merriweather Suspended 2 games"
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Sure it sucks because he is the most competent safety on the team, but dude leads with his head on every tackle and at some point the league has to do something about it. He really looks like he's trying to hurt people. I hope he at least tries to change his game a bit and start trying to wrap people up instead of delivering the big hit.

This won't bode well for our already terrible D with Peyton and Phillip Rivers in back to back weeks.

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98. "honestly the bamma is trash anyway."
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I mean he's better than Baccari Rambo sure, but that isn't saying much.

  

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100. "Correct, that's my point he's our BEST safety"
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That's a problem shit is no good.

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102. "that on top of Reed's concussion... "
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the broncos are bout to get busy.

That said, props to D Hall tho for stepping up this year. He may be benefiting from there being more obvious weaknesses in the secondary to target, but he's been solid regardless.

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104. "I think Reed was a hip pointer"
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he got a "shot" on the sideline (awesome for his long term health) and should probably play this weekend.

But yeah.

  

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99. "what's pathetic is that he said he already changed his game"
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um..... my dude....

  

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101. "I saw that, saying taht he was leading with his shoulder and shit"
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I was like um NO you don't, you lead with the crown of your helmet and try to knock people out, the Alshon hit was bad, but the one on Brandon Marshall was worse because the ball was already OUT. He couldn't see it though because his head was low ready to deliver that blow.

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103. "*skins shopping Fred Davis (link)"
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105. "for a bag of chips?"
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109. "I wanted to like Decorated Accessory"
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even if he was drafted by Snyderrato. I really wanted to.

But he's been dumb as nails from practice one (which he slept through), and not even his physical ability can make up for it.

  

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110. "good rundown of the black holes at safety"
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long story short:
bad FA signings
bad drafting
cap penalty

rinse, repeat.

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111. "I read that, and I just shook my head"
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112. "There have to be decent guys out there for vet minimums"
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oh well.

  

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113. "Merriweather Suspension cut to 1 game"
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I honestly don't think it should be reduced at all, but hey the players union has to do something right?

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114. "basically."
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115. "the first hit could be ruled ambiguously, this SORT OF makes sense"
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116. "It just seemed like his repeated lack of care for the rule "
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Would've had this one upheld. I guess that'll help us against Phillip Rivers, but not against The Sheriff

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117. "Couple of Things"
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- Hankerson hurt his foot running around the house with his kids, he's questionable for Sunday.

- Griff is getting closer to the player he was last year, he may never be the player he was pre injury, but he's getting closer. That bodes well for this team going forward.

- The Defense didn't play particularly well last week, but a short field once, and then a punt return for a td aren't on them. Still gave up a ton of points though, and that was to the back-up, Peyton about to go for 500.

- I'm sure Alfred Morris is way too humble of a guy and a team first guy, but i'm sure he's salty about running the team all the way down the field to get taken out and have Roy Helu score all the tds. Doesn't really matter to me as long as points go on the board, but I was just thinking about that.

- You know its tough that our Special teams coach is so bad. He was a player for many years, he was a special teams guy for the majority of those years. He's played the game and knows what he's talking about, but for some reason he can't get guys to play for him. If they give up another on to Trindon Holliday (which is VERY likely) you might as well not ride back with the team bro. 4 straight weeks with giving up a td, you can't stand for that.

- I wonder if the fans will treat Shanny on Sunday.

- We've got to run the ball to keep Peyton off the field, only way we have a chance, a shootout will end poorly for us.

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118. "I liked Keim's report"
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basically:

'Hankerson is questionable. Morgan would be his replacement. It doesn't really matter which of them plays'.

Hahaha.

  

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119. "That shit is so real, none of them are giving much catching"
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At least Josh will lock that edge to allow for good runs.

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121. "we got shit backwards"
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run downs: Morgan (WR) goes in

passing downs: we could have two TEs in (Jordan & Sleepy)

but these days Sleepy is eating popcorn at home so.

  

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122. "Backwards Stacking Fam"
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123. "Helu is a pretty good vulture right now"
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killed my FF team last week but it makes sense... He opens up more options in the redzone and is running hard as hell these days.

i'm optimistic about outscoring peyton. he's got that ankle injury and we really have the most trouble with mobile qbs that extend plays.


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124. "Helu's quick cutting and top side speed are really dangerous "
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In the redzone which is why they use him there. He's a better pass catcher than Alf, and has bulked up and runnign with power Helu and Alf are going to give us a good 1 2, I hope we can keep them happy and around.

Man I don't know, I feel like we have problems with anyone who gets the ball out quickly and has more than one legit target. Peyton is on pace to have 4 receivers go for a G! That's unheard of even in this age of passing. Looking at our defensive backfield we just don't have the horses to cover that many folks.

I just hope its not Philly on Monday night.

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125. "@ Denver"
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- Griff had a poor game, missing multiple open targets, and the Denver Front 4 pushed the Skins O line around.

- Defense played their ass off, D. Hall had a great all around game and played D. Thomas (who he gives what 4-5 inches and probably close to 50 lbs to) really well and if not for the 35 yard screen pass would've held him to those Dez totals. Great job by D. Hall and the entire Defense until the end where they got tired and Griff put them in some bad situations with picks. You can't give that Denver team any help, they're already really good.

- Special Teams played better, other than Sav Shanking that one punt.

- Looks like the play design in Washington has been good and well researched so what we have left is execution. Griff has to hit some of those guys and some of those guys have to make catches when the ball comes their way (Santanna). I say that except.......

- WHY THE FUCK DID THEY STOP RUNNING THE BALL. The Broncos came back to tie and the Skins were calling plays like they were already behind! Al had 97 yards and then lost 4 on a run and I don't think he got another chance to run the ball the rest of the game. The run game keeps people off of Griff and ensures its not all on him to play heroball. Oh and its the best thing we do, why do we get away from it every week? Bad call Kyle.

- Griff is really missing the benefit of a full off season with tape, and working on fundamentals. We've talked about it a lot, but a game like sunday did a good job of illustrating.

Anyway what do ya'll think of our chances against Rivers and the Chargers?

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127. "We can hang with the Chargers. "
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The bright part about the Denver game is we kept up with them for three quarters. Obviously we aren't there yet in terms of being a good team, but in all honesty the team as a whole did pretty well. Just gotta keep focus throughout the whole game.

Chargers ain't near the juggernaut that Denver is. I believe its possible for them to sneak a win in.

  

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133. "Not many people have seen the Charges play so think they're soft"
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They're a well coached team that has taken advantage of Phillip Rivers Strong suits which is getting the ball out quickly. Rivers is having on the best seasons of his career with everyone other than Gates injured. He's also been incredibly efficient this year.

We're not going to get pressure on them so we've got to control the game from our side of the offense. Keep them off the field and hopefully get some turnovers when the opportunity arises. Ryan Matthews has rushed for over 100 the last two games, this in and of itself shouldn't scare the defense too much, but Shady, the kid from Detroit, GB, and Forte had GAMES against us, so we're going to have to strap it up.

We could beat them though.

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128. "the frustrating part is that all of these game are winnable"
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the talent isnt great across the board, but if guys to their job they are good enough to keep up with anyone.

so sure they could beat the chargers. They should, at home, against a no more than decent west coast team playing at 1 ET, whip their ass.

The chargers are gonna be expecting us to run more. Kyle over thinks things and wont make them stop the run. i think we'll see more quick slants and screens to get the ball in the WRs hands early and fast, plus more draw plays.

I dont know how solid the SD secondary is... if they have a weak spot like the bears did with that one safety that Reed abused all game, its an automatic W. If not, i still think they execute better this week and get a close win.


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135. "I agree, a few different play calls"
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A little more poise here and there, and the season is not only not lost, but we're either leading the division or in the hunt. So its super frustrating to see them blow their opportunities week aftr week.

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As much as I shit on Kyle for his game, the execution killed it too.

The pass plays wouldn't have been so bad if Griff had hit open guys, or open WRs had caught balls that hit them in the hands.

I just hope this season is making Shanahan realize the deficiency of talent around Bob.

Especially the OL. That is a bunch of mediocre dudes who can only get by if Griff is on his game making defenders play hesitant.

But OL is Shanny's blindspot, IMO.

Also I watch a team like Cincinatti (man it's sad) and see how many talented WRs they've managed to draft, even beyond AJ Green who was a top 5 pick.

And in four years Shanahan has drafted nothing.

  

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131. "I think the development of these players could be an issue."
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Especially with the WRs....

Like I feel Hankerson could be good but he has not built upon one fundamental skill set to get him to that next level. And while that could very well be his own fault, I think the coaches have been a bit underwhelming as far as developing the talent they do have.

I agree with you that our drafting sucks but I also believe that there is no absolute guarantee that these players would develop the same way here.

  

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136. "The last part of your statement is the key"
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It seems there are places that no matter who or where they draft always manage to have Wr that contribute in big ways. People don't realize this, but Tom Coughlin was a wr coach, so his wrs are always good and sound. Think about Steve Smith(usc) being a 100 catch receiver in the NFL and now not playing. I look at Cincy and think Marvin has to be doing soemthing real right over there, TJ a beast during his time there, Chad was arguably top 5 in the league during his good run with Marv. AJ is a killer we'll leave him off, but Mohammad Sanu is a beast, those dudes catch the ball out there.

Meanwhile we can't get anyone to catch a ball out of break, there are NO BOUNDARY plays, no outs (granted that might be because Griff tends to throw balls to the inside and on outs that 6) but still I watch teams year after year field decent wr corps meanwhile our 2nd best receiver is our rookie TE, and 3rd best is any of the dudes not name Pierre or Jordan. Call Art or something man, get some guys who can teach them to get free, or maybe they're just not that damn good and once again our draft has failed us.

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139. "A few teams make WRs out of air"
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cincy, dallas, GB, NO, NYG, Indy, Pgh

In some cases they've drafted well. In others they take lower round talents and make them productive.

Theres another handful that no matter what they do, they cant solve the WR issue - Detroit was and is (despite Tron) the king of this. We arent far behind.

Gotta figure out how to move from one extreme to the other. Some of those teams have had average to bad OLs and still been winners.

Arguably, with the exception of Dalton and depending on how you feel about Carson Palmer, the common denominator is an exceptional QB...


  

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140. "Detriot no longer really applies, Nate Burleson (as we saw)"
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Put in work, they're backup TE just went for 3 tds and a 100 week before last, but on the outside you don't need good receivers when Tron is getting safety help over the top and probably a lb rolled to cover his underneath work.

But I agree with you, there are teams like us and Jacksonville that repeatedly get absolutely nothing from the position, Oak, St. Louis of late come to mind in that department.

Like what is the secret, can we just develop a little talent, I don't need them to find a Victor Cruz, but I do need them to find a productive guy.

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141. "I think detroit could do better and in impacts how DC should react"
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with a calvin gettin so much attention, other guys should shine.
Burleson never became a star on his own like cruz, austin, houzmazilly, or the pitt/GB wrs.

Even historically bad passing teams like Jax, Was, Cle, are able to get numbers out of the TE position. I wouldn't credit Det for doing something special there.

The skins (QB's?) inability, like Detroit's, to take advantage of their WR1 in a way that maximizes the other talent is what's significant to me.

And I know stafford many times is just chucking the ball downfield towards calvin without regard to the other WRs or the coverage. If a great QB is the key to maximizing WR output (moreso than WR or OL skill and talent) i am less worried about overhauling the OL or even getting a better group of WRs. I'd rather invest in the defense more and coach up RG3.

  

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143. "Garcon is good but he's not elite #1"
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there are times where he struggles to get separation in single coverage.

That's a bad statement on Bob's weapons.

  

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144. "his talent may not be the problem"
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He's a high quality #1 that isnt the best of the best. At the least he is jordy nelson good. Good enough for an opposing defense to be worried about him if used properly and to make room for another WR to stand out.

The packers have fewer passing attempts than the skins, but do a much better job of distributing the football. Jordy has 53 targets, Boykins in three games has 22. Cobb had 44 thru 5 games.

Garcon has almost 80 targets, the next guy is Reed with 44, Moss 37, Hank 36, Morgan 17. Griff isnt even looking at morgan so its hard for him to do more than block well to make an impact. Griff is missing guys when they are targeted, throwing into double coverage and locking in on garcon too much.

I dont blame him for not being a great passer yet, but again - it might not be a lack of talent on offense that is really holding the passing game back.


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146. "Re:"
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>At the least he is jordy nelson good.

strongly, strongly disagree.

Since he's been in the league Garcon has relied more on his speed than his route-running. I thought the Skins overpaid for him and still do. He's good, and we need him. But he's not worth his money or his reputation, IMO.


>Good enough for an opposing
>defense to be worried about him if used properly and to make
>room for another WR to stand out.

Disagree.

That's what I was saying about not regularly beating single coverage (according to Keim): defenses don't have to gear their whole plan around him.

It's also just a statement on Bob's weapons. He's not throwing to an elite #1, he's throwing to a pretty good #1.

But look, I agree with a lot of what you're saying. Bob could be making these guys look better.

But that also doesn't mean these receivers are good enough. They are very much not.

  

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126. "Kyle Shanny in his own words"
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http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/2337/kyle-shanahan-accepts-some-blame

ASHBURN, Va. -- Add one more person to the list of people who felt the Washington Redskins should have run the ball more in the fourth quarter: offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan.

But that comes with a caveat. There are only a couple times Shanahan wishes he had called a run.

“Obviously I look at myself, too, and I would have done a lot of things differently,” Shanahan said, “because we got our kicked in the fourth quarter and that starts with me.”

Kyle Shanahan conceded that the Redskins needed to run a bit more in the fourth quarter Sunday.
The one play that Shanahan wishes he had called a run came on the one series I felt really got away from the Redskins.

The first series? They set up the first-down play well, had eight Denver defenders in the box and a wide-open receiver. The design was perfect; the execution failed because the pass was behind Josh Morgan. On third down, receiver Aldrick Robinson was open and dropped a high but catchable ball.

“Those plays were open and it was open because we were committed to the run all game,” Shanahan said. “That’s what opened those plays up and we didn’t make those plays.”

The next series Washington went pass, run, pass/sack/fumble.

But that third series, with Denver’s stadium rocking, was a play-calling swing-and-a-miss. The Redskins were only down by 10; more than 11 minutes remained and they needed to return to what worked. Instead, they opted for another pass.

“That third series in particular started out with a play-pass I wanted versus a certain coverage,” Shanahan said. “And I didn’t get that. That’s one play in particular I wish I ran.”

Shanahan said he did not realize until after the game the run-pass disparity in the fourth quarter. They had run the ball on six of their eight plays in the third quarter.

“I don’t like it either,” Shanahan said. “I know we’ll do better. I know what we want as a philosophy. We want to be balanced. We weren’t balanced there in the fourth quarter. I can attribute it to a bunch of things. It’s not something you want to do as a playcaller.”

A big problem was that Washington failed to have a drive longer than three plays on its first four series of the final quarter. The Redskins ran only twice in the fourth quarter, once for 6 yards and then for minus-4.

Shanahan had been trying to set up some passes with the runs he called in the third quarter.

“You don’t just want to do the same thing the whole game. Sometimes you have to switch it up,” he said. “You want to keep them off-balance, come out and get a play-pass that you have set up. I could have run on a couple of second-and-10s there, but I chose to pass it and did a couple screens, too, and it didn’t work out.

“It’s not like we’re sitting in there as a coach saying, ‘We’re getting away from the run game.’ That’s what we’re planning on doing, we’ve been doing all game. But you call plays to attack coverages, you call play-passes that you’ve been trying to set up through the run game and when you end up punting it’s hard to get those other calls.”

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129. "what are those things, Kyle?"
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> I can attribute it to a bunch of things.

  

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130. "I'm cool with this, here's why"
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- on one hand he probably does feel that way in earnest and is taking some accountability. To have a crack at the Broncos and to let it slip away has to be a hard pill to swallow.

- on the other hand, he's really sticking his neck out for Robert and the receivers too. Should they have ran more? Sure, but there were a lot of plays available to be made that weren't executed right.

  

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138. "My issue is that he said "you've got to switch things up""
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That right there is exactly what infuriates me about kyle, if the run game is working, why do we have to go away from it and mix things up. Make people stop you.

Teams that run the ball run can control the game. Our playaction is great when its working and you're right the plays were there to be made, but damn just run the ball.

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142. "Yep"
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>That right there is exactly what infuriates me about kyle, if
>the run game is working, why do we have to go away from it and
>mix things up. Make people stop you.
>

He tries to be too smart.

  

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145. "Dude smarting his team out of games"
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Now obviously that's a bit of a strong statement, but its like everyone can see where the game gets away from them. Whenever they attempt to throw too often the game gets away from them, and fast.

If we could coach some of these bad habits out of Kyle he might be alright, because like I said they have the scouting reports down. THey know how to utilize their personnel and create mismatches, yet every sunday they hit none of them well except the Jordan Reed game.

So his preparation is not the question its in game decision making.

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132. "Good, honest interview with D Hall"
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http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/2346/friday-conversation-deangelo-hall

  

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134. "Seems like he has learned a lot."
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Smart guy...

Bullshit though that he says he is one of the more physical corners....Yeah now he is. 2+ years ago he was scared to make a tackle. He earned that reputation.

  

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137. "That's a good ass article from D. Hall"
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The one play where I can point to D Hall not tackling in the past was a 4th down play where it was him and Jake Delhomme for the game, and he let Jake run through him for a 1st down trying to drag him down instead of just hitting him. He earned that bad tackling badge.

This year though, dudes been playing out of sight, I don't have any bad words for him.

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158. "http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000109127"
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http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000109127

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147. "Fine. I take it back. Pierre, you're dope. "
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Bob staring down receivers and being inaccurate today.

Pulled out the win when Kyle stuck with the run game.

  

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148. "Chargers D left him open the whole game. "
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149. "I think kyle did his job and garcon got open."
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griff was playing a little reckless but garcon (and the defense) kinda willed that team to a win yesterday.

The RBs did what they do, as did the OL, which was given a chance to excel with kyle calling more running plays.

Given the chargers low pass defense ranking going into the game, the temptation was there to pass a bunch but the OC didnt overthink things this time.

He marginalized santana (good!) and got hank, niles and logan some action which increased the run threat and helped open up the field for garcon.

hopefully, bob will be more accurate on thurs and garcon wont have to be superman in order for us to beat the vikings.

  

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150. "*sigh*"
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we won

but every damn Skins fan is gonna have to qualify it today w/ what we did wrong & why we should've lost...

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152. "Yup"
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Dudes called in last night's post game and again this morning saying, "Yeah, we're still not sold on RG3..."

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153. "there are positives & negatives"
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it's not a big deal.

  

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155. "eh, you can nitpick almost every win in the league really."
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For example, the Chiefs now have 9 of them and they can't throw anything past 18 yards.

  

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151. "there's only 2 things consistent about this team"
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not just this offense, this TEAM; we can run like hell against anyone, and Pierre Garcon is great.

That's it. We can run and Garcon can bail us out. The rest of this thing is an ever-fluid mess.

  

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154. "Good analysis & film from Bob vs SD and DEN"
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Reasons for optimism. Pointing out the simple system last year is getting more complex this year, and Bob is doing a better job staying in the pocket and going through his progressions.

Also of note (which we all know): the pass blocking is terrible and some of bob's inaccuracies are due to that.

Tyler Polumbus is a good example. OK runblocker. Massive liability in pass blocking.

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156. "Homecoming Against the Chargers - My Observations"
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- Who knows if this will be that sort of game, but the way they won could be the catalyst to a legit run. I still don't think this team will make it to the playoffs, but a good run would be great.

- Its so evident that when this team just lines up and runs the ball they win. Its not Griff that makes things run, its the running game. If anyone follows me on twitter I was going NUTS about running the ball. I watched Kyle run the ball effectively and then when they needed 3 yards he tried to get cute and had to punt. First Round Talent Al looked strong, and San Diego couldn't handle him. This O line is created to shoot out, not go back. If they are set up to run they put themselves in good positions.

- If you look at Griff's efficiency its almost entirely attached the ability to move LBs through playaction. He's been inaccurate but when that playaction is working he throws with confidence and looks like a different qb. We run the ball, that's our identity. Griff played a bit of heroball but all in all had a good game and looked like the qb we need him to be. Aside from a few off throws, he looked good. I don't give a shit what people say, that's our qb of the future and i'm excited to have him.

- Kyle almost outsmarted himself again. End of the game you need a 3rd and 3 to really get close to icing the game, and you line up and do something cute. You've been lining up and running all game and now you want to play it cute. RUN THE BALL. Shout out to Darrell Young for running hard and taking full advantage of his opportunities. I say almost because in overtime Kyle got a clean slate and just decided to bully the chargers. Run the ball, run the ball, playaction, run the ball, Pierre, Run the ball. It was beautiful, I just loved how hungry they looked.

- This team performed at a level that it hasn't much this season and I'm happy to see them compete this way. They shot themselves in the foot, allowed the chargers to march right down the field twice only to have an incredible goal line stand. This team hasn't quit and those kats deserve a lot of love for their performance. Rivers is completing passes at a historic rate and they managed to limit his output to 2 tds and a fg. That's some good shit. A back in Ryan Matthews who had consecutive 100 yard games coming in left with 34 yards. They did a great job.

- DB's D. Hall is playing some of the best and most consistent ball of his career and is holding down the #1 corner spot better than most in the league. I'm not trying to sice, just what i'm seeing. He's reading his keys every week and is playing physical and smart. At one point he came off of his man and jumped back inside surprising Rivers and almost came away with another int. Dude is zeroed in! David Amerson had a great play and got caught looking in the backfield on another couple. When the chargers went into the bunch, D. Hall called out to Amerson that he had 13, and he still lost him focusing on Gates instead of his man. I love dudes ability to fight for the ball when its in the air, i just want him to be more disciplined. It takes a while, but dude has the ability to be a stud. All in all they played a good game.

- Special teams, not so special, left points on the field and Kai forbath hasn't been the same kicker as he was from last year. His injury might've really set him back further than we thought. The coverage teams were good this week though, so i'll give them love for that.

- Can we stop AP, or do we give AP 125 and contain everyone else and try to outscore them? What say you?

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157. "this."
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>- Who knows if this will be that sort of game, but the way
>I say almost because in
>overtime Kyle got a clean slate and just decided to bully the
>chargers. Run the ball, run the ball, playaction, run the
>ball, Pierre, Run the ball. It was beautiful, I just loved how
>hungry they looked.


The goal line stand and OT possession were things of beauty.

  

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159. "Force ponder to beat us while we run the ball down their throat"
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Minny has 6 passing tds on the season. only jax is worse.

I am confident that haslett can scheme against the vikings. hall's growth, amerson's talent really make a difference in terms of freeing up the defense to focus on the run and blitz the way haslett wants to. I also doubt ponder will display the pocket presence that rivers did which extended drives and contributed to some big plays for the chargers.

still not confident that kyle will run as much as we should especially against their poor passing defense. after showing how it should be done last week, he may decide to air it out on the road against a team we should beat just by playing to our strengths. this could easily be a game where we play down to the level of the competition instead of letting morris and helu and the OL dominate.

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160. "Man, if Amerson pans out that would be -huge-"
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161. "this team vaguely reminds me of Spurrier's"
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in that there was a bulletproof method to getting wins - Stephen Davis - and Spurrier all but ignored him except for a few games.

We can win 8 or 9 games if we just play mediocre defense and run the hell out of the ball. Who knows if we will.

  

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163. "kyle's arrogance is def. spurrier-esque"
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162. "I think that's the way they're going to play it"
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Bottle up AP and leave the ball in Ponder's hands. He's proven he can't do it and if this team can score 28 points they should win this game going away.

I just don't want one of those "ADRIAN PETERSON IS LOOSE!" runs. Those shits kill the confidence of your defense. You know the one where everyone touches him, has a shot to bring him down and just flat out doesn't get it done. I really worry about that this week.

Truth be told Amerson has been good, but its the safety position that allows Haz to call the game he wants. With Merriweather stabilizing the back end its allowed Haz to call stuff he wouldn't normally have been able to call. I don't think Ponder will be able to beat the exotic blitz schemes and only Jennings is good enough to really run away from someone. D. Hall track him all over the field and try and take him away with physical bumps to disrupt his routes and lets get it rolling!

Like you said, if they run the ball and then throw in some play action with Pierre and Jordan they should win this game in a laugher, but I worry this is a trap game fora bad team and it turns out to be a close one where Griff makes a few mistakes and the Vikes capitalize on it.

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164. "i think AP will get his on a play or two... it shouldnt matter."
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>I just don't want one of those "ADRIAN PETERSON IS LOOSE!"
>runs. Those shits kill the confidence of your defense. You
>know the one where everyone touches him, has a shot to bring
>him down and just flat out doesn't get it done. I really worry
>about that this week.

it might be a play when we are playing touch football or just a good offensive play call that gets AP into the secondary with only a juke/stiff arm keeping him outta the endzone. I'm mostly worried about dropped passes and poor play calls that lead to short drives and a tired defense. this isnt the game to awaken the corpse of santana moss on some wr reverses. i was wrong about the quick passes and screens last week... we didnt use them or need them. so i dont want to see those either.

>Truth be told Amerson has been good, but its the safety
>position that allows Haz to call the game he wants. With
>Merriweather stabilizing the back end its allowed Haz to call
>stuff he wouldn't normally have been able to call. I don't
>think Ponder will be able to beat the exotic blitz schemes and
>only Jennings is good enough to really run away from someone.
>D. Hall track him all over the field and try and take him away
>with physical bumps to disrupt his routes and lets get it
>rolling!

when merriweather is composed, he adds value to the team. hopefully he learned his lesson cuz we need him.


>Like you said, if they run the ball and then throw in some
>play action with Pierre and Jordan they should win this game
>in a laugher, but I worry this is a trap game fora bad team
>and it turns out to be a close one where Griff makes a few
>mistakes and the Vikes capitalize on it.

the other thing is we gotta make FGs. missing those or getting them blocked is demoralizing and we arent efficient enough on offense yet to throw away points.

my prediction is 24-14 with a big game by AP, a score by the skins defense and more TDs vultured away from Morris. I had to trade that ninja away this week... its too much to take!

  

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165. "The only reason to explain the outcome of this game is bad karma"
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There was a Native American group protesting this game outside the stadium.

That big of a point swing...Especially with a big lead like that and all that has been going on this season...Philpot is right.

I normally don't tend to go that route but that is just...unreal...

  

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166. "^^^"
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167. "bad karma, bad coaching, EVIL OWNERSHIP"
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168. "@ Minnesota Heartbreak"
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- I'm almost too deflated to even type this shit out.

- What a wonderful half of football, to then watch Griff get pummeled for the second half. Chris Chester looked completely overmatched and couldn't hold a block all night. That interior line looked shakey on all money downs in the 2nd half. Kyle never adjusted and Griff got punished. One thing that really sort of blew me away last night was our inability to hold the edge either by TE's or by tackles and guards on pulls. So instead of being able to skp to the sidelines the vikings forced griff back inside towards the pain. It was a great strategy and it worked well. Again we didn't adjust and GRiff got hit all night.

- Griff played well, I thought he did when he was in a his zone, but once they got him out of it he never got back in. Sprayed a few balls, missed a few open receivers and took his eyes off the field early a few times because of the blitz. Statistically dude has a good game, and kept his team in a position to win, the playcalling let him down.

- Kyle other teams are going to blitz you until you prove you can beat it, please believe Philly is coming.

- For as well as the defense has played, they got manhandled when it counted. The game plan of making the Vikings beat you through the air only works if you get pressure and make Ponder/Cassel uncomfortable, if you give any NFL qb the amount of time and clear views they allowed last night they will all have similar success to what we saw last night. Dudes were running free, the TE was a big target who killed us in the middle of the field. The thing that really burns me up is how every week the other teams know how to call plays that have Perry Riley matched up against a wr with little to no help. It happens almost twice a game for big yards. Frustrating as hell.

- First Round Talent Al, nuff said dude is a baller and gave it everything. On money downs I think I need Al in the game, as good as Roy Helu is out of the 3rd down set Al keeps defenses honest and when you need it, he's got to be in the game.

- At half time the Vikings made great adjustments and Kyle made none, we lost.

- Goaline play calling, I was salty because Jordan dropped a sure td, and the fade route call was atrocious. Two weeks, two different types of emotions.

- GREAT recognition by Reed Doughty and Sav on the fake punt poor recognition by Niles Paul. You're uncovered as a burner, you're supposed to be looking inside anyway, poor awareness. Still a great job by Reed and Sav.

- Brian Orakpo anyone? Anyone? Ok just checking. Meanwhile Ryan Kerrigan dropped and int that would've either won the game or set the O up with an excellent chance to win the game. Its a play we've seen him make his entire career, but last night it just didn't go our way.

- As a sloppy and undisciplined team we commit penalties you can't come back from. The personal foul penalties to extend drives and give the Vikes new life are inexcusable.

- Shanny running out of time dog.

- GAWD we have to beat the Eagles.

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169. "You said it. "
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Also the bad coaching and bad OL are a terrible combination.

  

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170. "Those things are becoming more and more glaring"
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Griff doesn't have the explosion to run away from Defenders like he did last year, so you've got to find ways to protect him.

Oh and that D looking like its about to be blown up again, so......

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171. "*ahem* Alfred Morris.... = Good..."
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172. "man, I thought he was good "
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but I didn't realize he's a straight up beast.

I was skeptical last year because he doesn't have that breakaway speed, but the dude is just an incredible runner.

Patient, tough, smart.

  

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178. "His vision is amazing "
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180. "and patience."
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173. "Coming up on Philly"
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- Which Griff will show up? Now granted the last couple weeks he hasn't been bad, but the play calling has left him wanting.

- Which D will show up? If Brandon Merriweather gets too excited he's going to take a shot at Desean I can see that happening. Shady look like he's back in stride just in time to take us apart again. We held Adrian Peterson under 100 but he hurt us in the 4th quarter when we absolutely had to stop him. i'm genuinely worried about how this unit will fare on Sunday. With Foles playing very efficient ball and using Riley Cooper the offense isn't what Chip might've thought but its become very consistent and winning games.

- Our Special teams are viewing games that they didn't give up touchdowns as wins, yea nuff said.

- I hate to break this to people, this team isn't that good and doesn't seem to have the same belief and heart that last years team did.

- If we don't see a huge turn around I think Shanny might be done after next year, and i'd be in favor. I know I know all the pleas copped, my thing is record if he can't win, then you've got to move on.

- We better run Alf into the ground, Roy is cool and all but Alf is the motor that makes this car go. Ride him.

- Will Philly's streak of not winning at home continue?

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174. "if we end up with double-digit Ls I think all bets are off."
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That will be his third season out of four with double-digit losses.

  

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175. "Yeah. I was assuming there's no way he'd be fired this year."
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But that double digit losses thing is killer.

It's not like we're playing a tough division.

  

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177. "Winnable games lost to details"
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Coaches usually get canned for that sort of thing. Shanny is WAY too conceited to quit or resign so he'll have to get the boot.

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179. "No, I think he'll throw Haslett under the bus and Danny will K.I.M"
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181. "He'd have to look at Kyle for that as well"
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Although i'm sure he won't fire his son.

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182. "NO way he fires his son"
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The only way I see his son leaving is if the Houston HC job opens. Rumor has it they'd love to have him.

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183. "please baby jesus make that happen."
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184. "Sweet baby 183 lbs 39 oz baby jesus let this happen"
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It would enable us to cut shanny ties all at once.

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187. "even still?"
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lol

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185. "Yeah, methinks the Shanny's are a package deal"
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I'm not copping anything for Mike, but I don't have a problem with him playing out his 5 year contract and go from there. Now, if Kyle were to leave, I wouldn't have a problem with that at all, but I doubt pops would can him

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186. "Honestly I wouldn't, I wouldn't fire my son"
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Ya'll just going to have to fire us both. so I get it, I just hate that its my team.

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176. "lol"
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>- Our Special teams are viewing games that they didn't give up
>touchdowns as wins, yea nuff said.
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188. "I cannot stand these fair weather *skins fans"
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These people seem to have very short-term memories when it comes to RGIII. He has been erratic this year. For anybody that expected him to come back and immediately be the player he was last year, was fooling themselves.

This team is so flawed and RGIII was able to mask some of it with his athletic abilities last year. He has to play perfect for this team to be competitive.


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196. "I personally don't see a lot of people turning on bob"
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Most people writing Bob off are fans of other teams with their wishful thinking.

People are critical of him and he's a young QB with a lot to learn, but nobody rational thinks he's a problem, not the current and future solution.

  

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198. "wow, apparently talk radio is blowing up with these idiots"
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in DC.

I stand corrected.

Nobody but talk radio listeners and opposing fans think Bob is part of the problem, not the solution.

  

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200. "Washington fans will turn on you in a second. "
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Give this guy one offseason at least. Sheesh...

  

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189. "quiet in here"
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190. "we're bad man. What you want from us? you're a clown dogg."
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191. "just sayin, it's a lot quieter now than in the beginning of the season"
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192. "Come on Shells take that shit to either the game post or your"
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Team's post.

We talk about our team in here.

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193. "not quieter than you after the 2009 World Series tho"
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201. "http://tinyurl.com/nvcsetr"
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http://tinyurl.com/nvcsetr

  

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209. "RE: just sayin, it's a lot quieter now than in the beginning of the seas..."
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194. "If Reed cannot play next week, Shanny better hope Davis doesn't ball"
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One of the big head-scratchers this year has been Shanny having Davis inactive almost every game this season. You cannot tell me Davis is not one of the best players on the roster come game day.

If Davis is active this week and balls out, won't be a good look for the father-son dynamic duo.


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195. "They don't like him, and say he misses assignments"
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I mean I don't know Helu missed a terrible block that got RG killed and took points off the board Helu still in there. So i don't really know. They don't like fred, but dude can catch and can run.

They better use him, they already fucked him from his bonus at least let him help the team.

Josh Morgan was inactive this past game, he hasn't been helping to catch the ball and his special teams have been miserable so might as well give the white guy a try.

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197. "Davis is an idiot with a terrible attitude. "
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Not sure how far his athleticism gets us.

It got him inactive.

  

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199. "yeah, i am glad reed got his chance to shine"
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no reason to invest time in knuckleheads.

freddy is talented but wont go on to do great things once he leaves here.

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202. "Debacle in Philly"
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- Griff has not progressed as passer, we all know this. The NFL knows this, so they're going to give Alf his yardarge, but they're going to make Griff beat them, and until he proves he can do that, by going through his progressions and finding his second option and hitting him we will have similar outcomes like on sunday. Philly took 1 man outta the box to sit them in the seam routes and intermediate routes we like to run off the read option fake, so Alf had room, but Griff did not. They sat on our first read across the middle (which is Griff's best throw by the way) and made him go out. Logan Paulsen was WIDE open, and Griff couldn't hit him. He's not polished, we know that. An off-season is what he needs. Away from microphones, away from expectations, just him the coaches, some video and the practice field. After the season i want Griff to go away from football for a month and then come right back to Redskins park and be there all off season. He's super talented and he will be the qb we need someday, but that day isn't today or tomorrow.

- Hey where were those super aggressive bookend rushers we used to have? Oh yea no where to be seen all day sunday. Philly does not have elite offensive lineman yet Orakpo got one, Kerrigan got none and London got one on a delayed blitz. Our defensive backfield isn't good enough for them to provide NO pressure and next week with Colin who can skate its not looking good. Nick Foles looked comfortable as shit all day. He also had more yards than Griff on the read option.

- Db's didn't play terribly, Amerson is young and Cooper caught him with a few pushoffs, but for the most part i'm not really upset about how they played. The only play I was really salty with was the Brent Celek screen pass that almost went for 6.

- Tackling Shady McCoy is hard, I get it. People have been screaming about how Ryan Kerrigan got locked up on Shady on that wheel route. That's incredible play design and they caught us with our pants down. That's a pretty standard blitz we run where London hesitates and tries to get free up the middle. He didn't get there, which left Kerrigan one on one with one of the most dangerous men on the field. Again great play calling by them, if we got to Foles it wouldn't have happened. We ran the same blitz on London's sack.

- Our offensive line is terrible in straight pocket protection, those dudes were getting mushed back into Griff ALL day long. Then to add insult to injury when they were doing their jobs, Roy Helu gave a TERRIBLE cut block that got Griff blown the fuck up. My wife goes "why is he always on the ground with his helmet off?" My wife is astute fam, she doesn't even watch the whole game but every time she sees us on offense our qb is on the ground, meanwhile theirs is pristine and clean. Pass blocking is not a strength for them at all. I understand that quick undersized lineman are the staple of any zone blocking unit but the ability to do the cornerstone of your job has to be evident. The Eagles mushed them all game long. Shameful.

- That special teams kat we promoted from the practice squad showed it was his first game. He may have to help outta the slot because punt returns may not be in his future.

- Josh Morgan didn't play and I saw a number of missed blocks on the outside this past week. Just something I noticed

- Pierre didn't get enough throws, he's the only real option he must get touches.

- Hey Aldrick Robinson caught a ball

- This team will be different next year as I think London will be gone, there will be a new safety, probably a new punter, new lineman, we

- Trent I need you to worry about how you're getting worked up front, not what the Umpire said to you. Focus on the team in Green, not the one in black and white.

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203. "^"
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204. "We got three more division games."
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Is there a chance we even win one?

  

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205. "We always play the Cowboys tough so we might catch them"
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The Giants are improved and by the time we play them, they may find their stride all the way so honestly its not looking good to get 1 divisional win this year.

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206. "it's like, Shanahan deserves to be fired"
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but it's not like Snyder will hire anyone decent to replace him.

I just enjoy getting to root for Bob, and ignore the rest.

  

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207. "I'm not sure if you saw Snider (WAPO writer)'s article"
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He said there were only 5 players worth keeping.

Griff, Alf, Pierre, Trent, & Jordan!!!!

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208. "if there the league was re-drafted tomorrow"
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Those are more or less the only players that would get drafted as starters on another team.

Amerson gets a pass bc he's a rookie, and I assume London is retiring.

Orakpo/Kerrigan are borderline. Perry Riley is alright I guess.

That's about it.

Merriweather? Rambo? Doughty? The entire defensive line? LG-C-RG-RT? Morgan/Moss/Hankerson?

These players are barely replacement level.

  

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210. "Boswell summed things up pretty well"
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/mike-shanahans-poor-defenses-with-the-redskins-and-broncos-speak-volumes/2013/11/20/7a919636-5222-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_story.html

"In (Shanny's) years, Washington has ranked 20th, 22nd, 22nd and now 30th in points allowed . That’s an average ranking of 24th in a 32-team league. That’s the worst defensive standing, relative to the whole league, in the reign of any Redskins coach since Otto Graham in the ’60s ... The Redskins allowed an average of 314 points in the three years before Shanahan arrived. That’s the baseline. Since he brought in Jim Haslett as coordinator and replaced a functional 4-3 defense with a generally inept 3-4, the number of points allowed, per full season, has skyrocketed to 398."

i've defended the 3-4 and haslett to some degree but the bottom line is that the defensive performance has been unacceptable. The talent isnt so lacking that they should be this bad.

now, with the cap hit coming off, is the right time to make a change. before letting shanny fully make the team in his own image, in a contract year when he has no incentive to think long term, they might as well blow this thing up.

Give Rg3 a full offseason with the new coach. let the new regime start with RG, Morris, Helu, Garcon and Reed and fill out the rest of the offense. Find a competent safety and ILB and get a special teams coach that isnt garbage.

i'm done defending these folks. the NFC east sucks and worst to first is attainable next season. bring on lovie, dungy, gruden, cowher, jimmy johnson, briles and try again.

  

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211. "RE: Boswell summed things up pretty well"
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>
>i've defended the 3-4 and haslett to some degree but the
>bottom line is that the defensive performance has been
>unacceptable. The talent isnt so lacking that they should be
>this bad.

The system doesn't even matter. With this secondary it wouldn't matter.

However you are right that while there are holes, they have no business being this bad. That's on Haslett. He needed to be gone yesterday.

>
>now, with the cap hit coming off, is the right time to make a
>change. before letting shanny fully make the team in his own
>image, in a contract year when he has no incentive to think
>long term, they might as well blow this thing up.

That's what I'm worried about. Even more short-term thinking while Shanahan tries to save his job.

But I doubt Shanahan agrees to go into next year without an extension. Snyder will extend him a few years and then fire him if the team starts slow.



>
>Give Rg3 a full offseason with the new coach. let the new
>regime start with RG, Morris, Helu, Garcon and Reed and fill
>out the rest of the offense. Find a competent safety and ILB
>and get a special teams coach that isnt garbage.

Yup. Basically we have a franchise QB and some good skill position players (though the WRs corps after Garcon needs serious work).


>
>i'm done defending these folks. the NFC east sucks and worst
>to first is attainable next season. bring on lovie, dungy,
>gruden, cowher, jimmy johnson, briles and try again.

Bring in some OL, some secondary, a WR2 and a decent coaching staff (basically: fire Team Pres Shanahan) and this team will be doing just fine.

  

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212. "I'd love to see Dungy or Lovie or Jimmy"
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I don't think it'll happen but I'd love it.

This year is a wrap and let the kids grow with the new coach, thank Shanny for his work and move on.

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213. "Lovie would be great"
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this team needs a defensive minded leader.

i also like a guy thats been to the SB and *lost*. someone skilled, still hungry and humble...

  

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214. "co-sign Lovie."
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I could do with a plan that consisted of a good defense + Bob.

Hire a decent offensive mind to call the offense.

I like that plan.

  

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215. "Anyone but Mike Martz"
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Yes that plan would work for me completely.

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221. "god Martz would be terrible."
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TERRIBLE.

  

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220. "Lovie is an EXCELLENT option..."
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Please, NO MORE offensive gurus, steady neglecting the defense.

Man, I don't even think he is even on the radar though, sadly.


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224. "I think that Radar will get much more developed if things continue"
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In the direction they've been going the last couple of weeks.

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225. "I think Dan would overpay for Gruden"
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Which I hope doesn't happen.

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232. "Gruden is a younger version of Shanahan"
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past his prime, stubborn, not good at playing GM.

  

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247. "Well if you were Reading between the lines last night"
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He was basically telling folks that if he got the head coaching job, he'd see what Kirk Cousins can do and Robert might be outta here.

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253. "Drafting Cousins was a terrible decision "
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It just highlights the decision making process by Shanny. At first I thought it was a smart move and they were going to use him for picks this past year; but when they held onto him I thought it was a bad move.

They always say on a bad team, everybody's favorite player is the back-up QB. If you watch this team, you cannot tell me putting Cousins behind this o-line would make a huge difference.

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255. "I peeped that."
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hell of a way to say thanks but no thanks.

RG3 is boys with Snyder, so we know kirk aint replacing anybody.

  

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216. "My goodness. This team just shit the bed."
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217. "good."
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we need the highest pick possible in the second round.

also, if shanny loses the team, he is more likely to get fired.

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218. "I knew it was going to be ugly"
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Just look at the matchups:

- You knew they D was going to try and stop the run which means Big Kap was going to abuse our garbage ass secondary.

- 49ers d-line is beastly, our o-line is only beastly in the run game. You knew the 49ers were going to take that away which means the o-line was going to have to pass block (well, we see how that went).

- Garcon is the only legit receiver we have with Reed out and Davis not getting any run. Hell, even sure-handed Santana Moss is dropping passes this year


This team is shit. RGIII is catching all the heat but any smart fan can see he's not even one of the top 5 problems with this team.



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219. "Yup. Not top 10 long-term even."
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>This team is shit. RGIII is catching all the heat but any smart fan can see he's not even one of
> the top 5 problems with this team

  

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222. "Damn shame that RG is catching all of this heat."
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That game last night put all of our flaws on display, for a national TV audience to gawk at.

I say it's a shame for RGII to take this heat, but on the flip side he got MOST (albeit deservedly so) of the praise for what we did last year, but still it's disheartening, and you don't that type of stuff getting to your young franchise QB.

Our line(s)are so bad, and looking at what the niners were doing last night, by just rushing four, just shows how we ain't ready (literally for prime time). They were only rushing four, and getting legit serious pressure on our QB (this is the tactic from here on out by the way) while dropping seven in coverage. If your team has the talent (like the 49ers especially do) or with some appropriately timed blitzes at the weakest points of our line (everywhere except Trent) you can have our number. The offense can't go and every play looks like a broken play, last-ditch effort before the QB gets blasted, time and time again.

I have finally seen the light on Shanahan and he need to GO! i was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and have him remain for the sake of continuity, but all of this shit his fault due to his inability to build a team correctly. I was even willing accept that the cap penalty is a valid defense for our inability to field a balanced team. Come realize that he was in charge when that shit went down. It was HIS FAULT, which ultimately i attribute to him being old and trying to cut corners to getting the team out of the mass that was the Snyder/Cerrato era, but he shot himself in the foot.

There is no guarantee, if given the opportunity, that he won't make another similarly team-crippling mistake, because he's old and is running out of time (like leaving the already hurt franchise QB out on the field, up by 14 in the playoffs).

Ugh. Bring on the offseason and get rid of this dude.



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230. "It's not like when he had cap room he signed good players"
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anyway.

Garcon is the only decent FA move he's made.

The rest is the scrap heap of OJ Atogwe, Tanard Jackson, and Josh Morgan.

  

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238. "Scrap heap players indeed..."
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The whole offensive line are scrap heap reclamation projects, except for Williams.

In year four, that's not good at all. Shanahan has had ample opportunity to pick up/draft prospects a