>
>>back to back penalties left this team's cap at 85% of the
>>normal during the critical 3rd and 4th years of shanny's
>>tenure. The impact of this on talent acquisition and their
>>ability to build up the special teams roster cant be
>>overstated.
>
>Are you agreeing with me here? I can't tell.

you mentioned the cap hit without really getting into the severity of it. if the average dudes budget at work was cut 15%, people would not have the same expectations as they have for the skins.


>>folks harp on this, but the players we had in the 4-3 were
>>old, overpaid and about to be replaced anyway. Guys like
>Wynn,
>>Griffin, and Daniels. If you are going to switch, doing in
>>immediately when you are about to turnover the d-line anyway
>>makes sense. Haslett prolly was a bad hire and needs to go,
>>but the teams needs were immense from day one regardless of
>>the scheme switch.
>>
>I think its a lot easier to find players to fill in spaces
>opposed to changing over the entire defensive scheme you're
>running. Some of the line were old but a guy like Kedrick
>Goldsten is and was never going to be a star, but he was good
>in that D, he has no place in a 3-4. They drafted for the 3-4
>and have placed talent on the D line with guys like Stephen
>Bowen, Carriker (who still can't get right), Orakpo is
>overrated and I suspect he's been doping, but he's good not
>great. There's no way to front on Perry Riley, Kerrigan, and
>Even Rob Jackson. I'm good with that. I'm saying relation to
>an Offense that had no weapons and still doesn't you've spent
>a ton on the defensive side of the ball and with a bad
>coaching hire that effectively makes all those moves moot.

you seem to be arguing against the move to the 3-4 in general, which i wont try to defend. Once Shanny decided to make that change, I focus on how he implemented it. From a personnel view given that the previous 4-3 defense needed a youth movement anyway he did a solid job. Only Orakpo and Fletcher are left as starters from the 4-3 front seven but we'd still have 5 new guys up there if we kept the 4-3 given how old/bad (in rocky mcintosh's case) the talent was. By 2011 the 3-4 defense had become #13. Arguably, the ranking would have improved in 2012 and 2013 with more money to spend on skill/depth at DB.

>>Hank and Jarvis both had injuries that undermined their
>>development. Morgan is overpaid, but not a bust depending on
>>which offense kyle feels like running. Most of the dumb
>stuff
>>they did was in year one with the mcnabb and jammal brown
>>trades. After that, they've been solid despite limit
>>resources.
>>
>4 years for Hank, at this point he's given almost nothing and
>if he doesn't find a way to produce and give more to the team,
>the Hank Experiment is over. Jarvis i'll give you as he was
>poised to have a break out year until his injury. Hank i don't
>have a lot of faith in as he doesn't get much separation and
>still after all this time still has suspect hands.

Folks raved about Hank being a first or second round value when he was selected. If Hank doesnt pan out, it may be Kyle's fault. not that we should cuz the line sucks, but if we used more three and four WR sets, he'd get more reps. His time also gets cut by Moss who can't catch anything at this point and might be holding hank back.

RG3's early inaccuracy also mean that all of the WRs are underperforming at this point. I'd give hank a pass until the second half of the season.

>>If this is the team that shanny built in year 4 without the
>>cap hits, i would agree with everyone that he is mediocre.
>But
>>between the lack of picks early on and the inability to do
>>anything in FA recently, to me shanny the GM gets a pass.
>We
>>would have gone after antoine winfield with more money,
>could
>>have signed a competent safety to compete with Rambo early
>on,
>>and resigned Alexander. Those moves would have made a
>>difference, but instead we have the same or worse problems
>>that we had two years ago. Spending at an 85% cap level only
>>goes so far.
>
>I completely understand why you'd feel that way, I just dont'
>agree. There are glaring holes on the O Line that obviously
>they weren't able to address maybe due to the cap hit or
>because they believed in the guys they had. Griff's running
>ability completely masked their inability to pass block. You
>and i both know one thing Shanny does is believe in his lines,
>but this one isn't very good and that's been evident this
>year. I don't know if its just over confidence in a system or
>what, but that's an area that's been completely overlooked.
>Yea Morgan is overpaid incredibly, but as i've stated many
>times on the edge he's one of the best if not the best
>blocking wr we have. Problem is we pay him to catch passes as
>well and to this point in the season just hasn't done that. I
>agree the 85% has hamstrung this team incredibly. I'm just not
>going to give them as much of pass.

Morgan's blocking yesterday directly let to TDs, so i dont need him to catch anything really. I think i am more inclined than most to give the team a pass due to the lack of money. $36M would have translated into 4-6 decent players and some depth at C, RT, CB, and S and solved a big portion of the teams problems.

>>I actually think he's been a better GM than coach. Kyle
>>doesn't look like he knows what the eff he is doing out
>there.
>>McNabb threw for a record number of yards, then we had the
>>read option offense, then we had the traditional offense for
>4
>>games before switching back. The coaching is suspect. Hiring
>>burns looks suspect now, and these questionable hires are
>the
>>coaches fault.
>>
>
>He's good at finding gems in certain aspects of his system,
>but deficient in others. Here's the thing, the read option was
>fine, it worked incredibly well and griff never got hit while
>running it, he got hit playing hero ball and not getting on
>the ground. Say whatever you want about the scheme the shit
>was very effective. Kyle as an OC has never impressed me and I
>generally scream at him every week. They ran Danny Smith out
>of town, and now folks are screaming for the good ole days
>when he was here. The kat that's running that unit hasn't
>really gotten the players to buy in and its showing. Its early
>but at somepoint its no longer on the coaches the players have
>to step up. Special teams is a mess.
>
>I'm sure Shanny will get another couple of years because of
>that penalties. If we get to year 6-7 and that O line still
>isn't able to protect and we're still not hitting on wrs then
>the finger is going to have to pointed squarely at Shanny.

agreed.