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"The Avengers: Infinity War Discussion Post (SPOILERS WITHIN)"
Fri Apr-27-18 11:28 AM by Frank Longo

  

          

I know spoilers are gonna fly once this drops so new post.

Lots to digest.

First off if you haven't seen every single joint that's come beforehand, you might wanna catch up quickly. References big and small are made to every single film.

With that all said, this thing doesn't waste a moment. Once it starts it keeps going. Bodies drop and keep dropping.

This shit is dark while still being funny. The tone is handled well. In fact, the handheld camera work adds to the film's sense of dread. I would not take kids to see this. For the final 20 minutes you can hear a pin drop it was so quiet.

That's all I'm gonna say cause there's a lot here that I'm sure is gonna be spoiled once the social media embargo lifts at 1:30am EST.

I'm seeing it again in IMAX (the entire film was shot in the format) as I missed a lot during the screening due to laughter and loud gasps.

#ThanosDemandsYourSilence

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Too violent for an 8 and 6 year-old?
Apr 23rd 2018
1
once I get home, I'll inbox you
Apr 23rd 2018
2
I got a 9 year old that wants in, mainly for BP
Apr 23rd 2018
3
my 6 year old daughter has been like counting the days
Apr 24th 2018
7
Took my 5 year old. He was fine
Apr 30th 2018
82
From your post it would seem that bodies drop and not just randoms
Apr 23rd 2018
4
man, I was straight scurred to read your post
Apr 24th 2018
5
I will be in the IMAX in exactly 50 hours
Apr 24th 2018
6
tell the truth, you'd see it even if it was trash
Apr 24th 2018
8
      listen, you are not wrong
Apr 24th 2018
9
      Gotcha.
Apr 24th 2018
11
      even if it were known confirmed trash
Apr 24th 2018
10
My full spoiler free review.
Apr 24th 2018
12
nice review, i will toe the line with you
Apr 27th 2018
16
I would say the telekinetic guy *definitely* had presence
Apr 30th 2018
84
      The Ebony Maw, he's Thanos' mouth piece
May 02nd 2018
114
YO
Apr 26th 2018
13
How I feel right now
Apr 26th 2018
14
RE: How I feel right now
Apr 27th 2018
19
I am just happy they did my dog Thanos right!!!!!!
Apr 27th 2018
15
this captain Marvel movie has a LOT to clean up
Apr 27th 2018
17
Quite a 10 year payoff. Way too much to unpack
Apr 27th 2018
18
It feels like someone set off a nuke at the All-Star Game.
Apr 27th 2018
20
This is exactly right
Apr 27th 2018
23
RE: This is exactly right
Apr 27th 2018
24
Perfect description
Apr 27th 2018
25
^^give this man a gold star
Apr 27th 2018
27
ctrl + f + antman
Apr 27th 2018
21
RE: ctrl + f + antman
Apr 27th 2018
22
yah mon. lived up to the hype and then some.
Apr 27th 2018
26
That was exhausting
Apr 27th 2018
28
spoilers
Apr 27th 2018
29
Spoilers Inside
Apr 27th 2018
31
      Viz was hard to watch
Apr 27th 2018
36
      RE: Spoilers Inside
Apr 27th 2018
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      I think Vision will return....
Apr 29th 2018
79
It wasn't Hugo.
Apr 27th 2018
30
LOL
Apr 27th 2018
33
Can I make one *mild* complaint about the deaths?
Apr 27th 2018
32
This is what I was alluding to with the stakes
Apr 27th 2018
34
wholeheartedly agree
Apr 27th 2018
35
Legit complaint and I agree
Apr 27th 2018
39
RE: Legit complaint and I agree
Apr 27th 2018
40
      cosign on the Hulk theory
Apr 30th 2018
85
Agreed
Apr 27th 2018
45
I'm perfectly fine with those particular deaths
Apr 28th 2018
47
It's a movie with an infinity gauntlet
Apr 28th 2018
49
that's not really a legit complaint tho
Apr 29th 2018
77
The legitimacy of the argument isn't really up for question, imo.
Apr 29th 2018
81
      Everyone at my screening was affected (spoilers)
Apr 30th 2018
86
      RE: The legitimacy of the argument isn't really up for question, imo.
Apr 30th 2018
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      RE: The legitimacy of the argument isn't really up for question, imo.
Apr 30th 2018
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           RE: The legitimacy of the argument isn't really up for question, imo.
Apr 30th 2018
102
                RE: The legitimacy of the argument isn't really up for question, imo.
Apr 30th 2018
105
didn't bother me at all.
Apr 30th 2018
95
I'll even pre-empt that - once Dr. Strange gave away the stone
May 02nd 2018
116
This is how it went in the comics
May 20th 2018
183
Also, who is going to get that man a shield??
Apr 27th 2018
38
It won’t be Shuri
Apr 27th 2018
44
      If it wasn't onscreen, I think they're fine
Apr 30th 2018
83
That movie was phenomenal. Some thoughts:
Apr 27th 2018
41
Awesome flick
Apr 27th 2018
42
yep
Apr 27th 2018
43
The All Star Game comparison is right on (And question)
Apr 27th 2018
46
I say Gamora comes back
Apr 28th 2018
50
I imagine some sort of flim flam with the stone restoring her life.
Apr 28th 2018
51
I think Vision might come back...
Apr 28th 2018
53
      He's basically software, so yeah.
May 02nd 2018
112
This is why I wish old school epics were still a thing.....
Apr 28th 2018
48
The ending fell flat for me
Apr 28th 2018
52
Yeah, didn't care for Quill's actions. Also on Dr. Strange:
Apr 28th 2018
54
      Quill was stupid, Strange made sense
Apr 28th 2018
55
           Quill's actions were perfectly in line with his character.
Apr 29th 2018
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                agreed. pretty much the same thing happens in GOTG 2
Apr 29th 2018
75
Props to Disney for having the confidence to take risks
Apr 28th 2018
56
They didnt take risks
Apr 28th 2018
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      Only cause we old cynical movie goers/comic readers.
Apr 29th 2018
61
           The stakes were as high as possible.
Apr 30th 2018
106
Saw it a second time. Audience notes:
Apr 29th 2018
58
Agreed. Those deaths meant something
Apr 29th 2018
62
      Less cynicism and less information
Apr 29th 2018
64
      but that's NOT cynicism. i assume you like me read the comics
Apr 29th 2018
66
           Definitely read and collected comics, but it is different
Apr 29th 2018
70
           That's the thing, we gotta remove ourselves from all the history
Apr 29th 2018
76
                Ok, I can dig that
Apr 29th 2018
80
How does Banner know so much about Thanos?
Apr 29th 2018
59
He saw thor massacre all the asgardians
Apr 29th 2018
63
whenever thanos attacks the asgardians initially
Apr 30th 2018
87
RE: The Avengers: Infinity War Discussion Post (SPOILERS WITHIN)
Apr 29th 2018
60
also can we dead the weak villain ideas at this point?
Apr 29th 2018
67
Disagree on one of those.
Apr 29th 2018
68
FAIR
Apr 29th 2018
69
I agree
Apr 29th 2018
71
Who else wanted that raggedy robed figure to be
Apr 29th 2018
72
Could be in part 2
Apr 29th 2018
73
RE: Who else wanted that raggedy robed figure to be
Apr 29th 2018
78
Yeah, a lot to unpack. Thoughts:
Apr 29th 2018
74
rabbit
Apr 30th 2018
90
Gamorra (spoiler)
Apr 30th 2018
91
I believe from what i read is hawkeye will be in Ant-man Wasp flick
Apr 30th 2018
107
HOLY. SHIT.
Apr 30th 2018
88
pretty good. good mix of everything
Apr 30th 2018
89
Pretty good analogy
Apr 30th 2018
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yup.
Apr 30th 2018
96
RE: Pretty good analogy
May 02nd 2018
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      none of that is true. I *still* haven't seen the first cap
May 02nd 2018
110
           but you've SEEN everything but Cap 1, so your point is invalidated
May 03rd 2018
121
                RE: but you've SEEN everything but Cap 1, so your point is invalidated
May 03rd 2018
122
                I don't think you know what invalidated means
May 07th 2018
144
                     Just one more time, and I'll go slow
May 17th 2018
180
RE: pretty good. good mix of everything
Apr 30th 2018
99
      yup, a bunch of your starters are on crutches icing up and it's like
Apr 30th 2018
103
all i know is if some Eternals show up in part two
Apr 30th 2018
97
a silver surfer fly by
Apr 30th 2018
98
I really want Silver Surfer in MCU IN PART 2
Apr 30th 2018
104
Warlock is definitely in GotG 3 not sure if he will make an appearance i...
May 01st 2018
108
They better NOT bring a fucking Starbucks to Wakanda for part 2
Apr 30th 2018
100
Kinda mad we didnt get the....(SPOILERS WITHIN)
Apr 30th 2018
101
yeah the ringer went over a lot of trailer -> movie changes
May 19th 2018
182
Why no Valkyrie?
May 02nd 2018
111
The problem w/Valkyrie and the whole opening scene
May 02nd 2018
113
yep - main issue with movie is didn't see BP and Ragnarok character popu...
May 02nd 2018
115
Joe Russo Confirms Valkyrie Survived Infinity War
May 04th 2018
123
Dope - 10 years of build and it paid off.
May 02nd 2018
117
I just want to add that they NAILED the credit roll
May 03rd 2018
118
The entire score was underrated
May 04th 2018
126
Please tell me where were all of the High Tech weapons in Wakanda?
May 03rd 2018
119
Whatcha mean, they had plenty of tech
May 03rd 2018
120
the wakanda tech made regular guns look stupid
May 04th 2018
124
They actually had a few shots of Wakandian ships
May 07th 2018
140
the joke is on me really. They make the same movie, I go and see it
May 04th 2018
125
Lol no it didn't
May 05th 2018
127
GotG2 gets better with repeat viewings
May 05th 2018
130
had the same exact feeling while watching civil war
May 05th 2018
128
You guys are the real mighty heroes, how proud I am of u
May 05th 2018
129
      Not criticizing people who like these movies, criticizing myself...
May 05th 2018
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           RE: Not criticizing people who like these movies, criticizing myself...
May 05th 2018
133
           LOL
May 05th 2018
134
                *moot
May 09th 2018
160
lol, what? there's a reason people are silent at the end
May 05th 2018
132
It's most likely much too sophisticated for you to grasp
May 06th 2018
136
I thought you were into discourse? Debate? Dialogue?
May 07th 2018
139
      Oh, I am. But we've long established that you're several tiers beneath m...
May 07th 2018
142
           damn, dude
May 08th 2018
151
                Harsh...and all facts.
May 08th 2018
153
                     you're the worst poster on the boards and everyone knows it
May 08th 2018
154
                          You want that to be true, you really do 😆😆😂😂🤣🤣
May 08th 2018
157
                               U typed all that shit on your phone. Man that’s sad. 💩
May 08th 2018
158
                                    ....and true, more importantly. And you seem the type to love poop emoji...
May 08th 2018
159
Marvel/Disney has a hell of a formula
May 10th 2018
165
      FACTS
May 10th 2018
167
i can't believe they brought back the eyeball
May 05th 2018
135
I hated that retcon....
May 11th 2018
168
Agents of SHIELD addressed the Thanos situation (SWIPE)
May 06th 2018
137
RE: Agents of SHIELD addressed the Thanos situation (SWIPE)
May 07th 2018
138
I completely forget about that show.
May 07th 2018
141
too bad
May 08th 2018
156
Infinity War puts every Marvel show in an awkward position
May 07th 2018
143
      Not necessarily, there's the time stone
May 14th 2018
169
So James Gunn leaked Groot's final words
May 07th 2018
145
look how pressed you are. This reply isn't even in response to me
May 08th 2018
155
      LMAO wait... I'm pressed because I referrenced something you said...
Aug 07th 2018
201
So... If all of the TV shows are connected...
May 07th 2018
146
Obviously
May 07th 2018
147
just have the storyline take place before IW
May 08th 2018
148
right.
May 08th 2018
150
Yep. No big deal - Avengers 4 is out next year. Any TV show
May 09th 2018
161
yes and no
May 08th 2018
152
I gave up on the tv shows
May 09th 2018
162
n/m
May 10th 2018
163
The soul stone scene was so dope in IMAX 3D
May 08th 2018
149
With Carrie Coon in the cast
May 10th 2018
164
PALES compared to Black Panther
May 10th 2018
166
So..nobody in the theater knew that there is a sequel coming?
May 14th 2018
170
      You can lead into sequels...
May 15th 2018
178
           huh? the next movie doesn't have a name yet.
May 15th 2018
179
           There wasn't anything about the ending that didn't make sense though...
May 17th 2018
181
                Doesn't mean we should ignore the basics of storytelling...
May 25th 2018
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                     i guess i'm just confused
May 25th 2018
185
                     which would be...
May 26th 2018
186
How many times have you all seen this?
May 14th 2018
171
Once...hoping to see it again this weekend
May 14th 2018
172
I can't see it again until I can go with my wife
May 14th 2018
174
Only movie I've seen three times in theaters was mad max
May 14th 2018
176
after a lil over 2 weeks...this shit is already #5 all time worldwide.
May 14th 2018
173
It is killing it overseas. Over 700 million???
May 14th 2018
175
All these infinity war memes are killing me
May 14th 2018
177
literally the only reason i go on IG anymore
May 27th 2018
187
Im starting to think infinity war wont pass black panther
May 27th 2018
188
It's going to crack $2B though
May 29th 2018
189
bluray rip drip drip
Jul 30th 2018
190
*Web Rip
Jul 30th 2018
191
only a matter of time
Jul 31st 2018
192
Put it on yesterday, expecting to just have it as background
Aug 01st 2018
197
finally rewatched
Jul 31st 2018
193
the casting
Jul 31st 2018
194
the director's commentary was dope.
Aug 01st 2018
195
Director's Roundtable
Aug 01st 2018
196
finally saw this
Aug 02nd 2018
198
Haven't seen it yet, but this sold me.
Aug 07th 2018
200
I'm genuinely surprised at the "not as fun" critique.
Aug 07th 2018
202
this shit was a masterpiece, ppl
Aug 07th 2018
199

After_Words
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1. "Too violent for an 8 and 6 year-old?"
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We’ve been watching almost every Marvel movie for the past three years. Little one keeps asking “When are we going to watch the purple guy fight the Avengers?” I’m glad that this didn’t disappoint though!

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bwood
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2. "once I get home, I'll inbox you"
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Gotta dance around the reason why.

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3. "I got a 9 year old that wants in, mainly for BP"
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Not a good idea? I"d love to know as well. Thursday can't get here soon enough

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7. "my 6 year old daughter has been like counting the days"
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also got squeamish as hell when Killmonger beatdown BP in the theatre - this post makes me torn to bring her now

  

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82. "Took my 5 year old. He was fine"
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He already has a film that the films are interconnected. Pretty sure he thinks the next film will resolve what happened in this one. He seemed upbeat about the whole thing.

Peace,

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4. "From your post it would seem that bodies drop and not just randoms"
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Like Marvel is going there.

My question, did Marvel get their villain problem fixed with Thanos? It would seem that way with your hashtag.

To be fair, I thought Zemos was a very good villain.

  

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BigWorm
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5. "man, I was straight scurred to read your post"
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I was ready to stay the hell away from PTP until Saturday morning.

If you came here and posted that it was garbage, it would have been similar to a grown-up cussing out a 12 year-old me.

Then I read some spoiler-free initial reactions and thought it was safe.

Damn. I am beyond excited for this shit.

  

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shockzilla
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6. "I will be in the IMAX in exactly 50 hours"
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and the wait is killing me.

  

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8. "tell the truth, you'd see it even if it was trash"
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I know I would... at this point, I'd have to satisfy my anticipation even if everyone was saying it was awful.

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9. "listen, you are not wrong"
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I'm just saying, I am in FULL giddy little kid overdrive for this movie. I don't want anything to fuck with that until I see it on Friday.

  

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11. "Gotcha. "
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I think I could even stomach a bunch of spoilers because I want to see HOW they execute this story.

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10. "even if it were known confirmed trash"
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I'd have tickets for the same showing I've got right now.

I'd still have to see it.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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bwood
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12. "My full spoiler free review."
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Marvel Studios deserves a round of applause for pulling this off. We are moving towards an end of an era, and that starts here. Keyword starts. Avengers: Infinity War highlights the strengths and weakness of ten years of living in this cinematic universe.

With the fate of the universe at stake, the splintered Avengers must reunite with new faces as well as the Guardians of the Galaxy to take down Thanos (Josh Brolin), who seeks the legendary infinity stones to alter reality itself.

Thanos has been teased now for six years since he popped up in the first Avengers film. It was worth the build-up as not only from the first frame do we get how big of a threat he is, but we see what makes him tick. Thanos’ reasoning for doing what he’s doing makes sense. It’s horrifying for sure, but I was so worried he was gonna be a mustache-twirling villain, but he’s fully realized and fleshed. Walking out I understood why Josh Brolin said he got more out of playing Thanos than playing Cable. Much credit is due his way for a really incredible performance.

Once this film starts, it keeps moving. I can say that there’s not a wasted moment in this as the film has a lot to accomplish. For those of you who have theories on the Soul Stone, throw them out the window. One of the biggest surprises as well as emotional beats in this film comes from the Soul Stone sequence. That sequence is important on why you have had to see every single MCU film up until this point as this film makes references big and small to what’s come before.

The Russo brothers deserve a lot of credit for making this film works. The film consistently shifts from funny to super dark walking a tightrope that could’ve teetered into a mess. Part of what makes this work is the handheld camera work that’s being used. The shots and the way the camera moves makes this the most cinematic Avengers film thus far. It’s true that the first two Avengers films have a television film type quality to them, but here Joe and Anthony make you feel the stakes. The scope of this thing is so big, I understand now why every frame of this was shot in IMAX.

With that said, this film does have its problems. Look, the ending here will have you shocked, I’m still shocked by it. But this is only a part of a whole. I’m frustrated that this didn’t exactly have an ending. One of the most referenced sequels of all time The Empire Strikes Back, has a beginning, middle, and end despite its various cliffhangers. Same goes for The Last Jedi. To even further this point each film in The Lord of the Rings trilogy has a beginning, middle, and end despite the fact that it’s one narrative. You can clearly tell this is Infinity War Part 1 before Marvel Studios decided to ditch that for now obvious reasons. Look, whatever Avengers 4 (Infinity War Part 2) is gonna be called, I can go back and judge this as a whole instead of the sum of its parts.

I don’t really like the split narratives either. The Guardians are split up with Thor and going on their own quest eventually meeting up with a group of Avengers. And the rest of the Avengers are globetrotting place to place. I understand why this had to happen as there are so many characters in the MCU (two of which do not appear at all and their absence is mentioned), but this also took the wind out of the sails at times as some stories became less interesting than the others.

The children of Thanos cannot match Thanos’ presence. They are uber-powered stand-ins with no depth to them. In fact, I wondered why were they in the film in the first place. Thanos has a generic army of aliens (not a good thing) for our heroes to punch, these guys added nothing other than getting three of our heroes out into space and setting a trap for later.

And while there are some very cool setpieces, some had me glaze over after a while. I know people are getting tired of CG cities being knocked over, well sorry to say that this has multiple cities being leveled. And speaking of, they gotta do something with the Netflix characters (the whole of Marvel TV in general) cause it’s so distracting to see Midtown under attack and not see the Defenders join in.

Look this works more often than it doesn’t. I enjoyed the film, just not as much as I would have hoped (that’s the problem with hype). With Black Panther literally just having been released upon the world, it’s a tough act for Infinity War to follow. Even more so considering that that’s one of the best comic book films made yet. Moving forward this will have serious consequences and that ending has me wondering just where do they go from here. Seriously, if I was a screenwriter, I’d be lost on how exactly do I resolve this. And going forward one this Marvel and DC should consider is having their heroes meet earlier in solo films or have certain characters costar like Hulk did in Thor: Ragnarok. Avoid everything until you are able to lay eyes on this. You don’t want this spoiled for you.

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16. "nice review, i will toe the line with you"
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>Marvel Studios deserves a round of applause for pulling this
>off. We are moving towards an end of an era, and that starts
>here. Keyword starts. Avengers: Infinity War highlights the
>strengths and weakness of ten years of living in this
>cinematic universe.
>
>With the fate of the universe at stake, the splintered
>Avengers must reunite with new faces as well as the Guardians
>of the Galaxy to take down Thanos (Josh Brolin), who seeks the
>legendary infinity stones to alter reality itself.
>
>Thanos has been teased now for six years since he popped up in
>the first Avengers film. It was worth the build-up as not only
>from the first frame do we get how big of a threat he is, but
>we see what makes him tick. Thanos’ reasoning for doing what
>he’s doing makes sense. It’s horrifying for sure, but I
>was so worried he was gonna be a mustache-twirling villain,
>but he’s fully realized and fleshed. Walking out I
>understood why Josh Brolin said he got more out of playing
>Thanos than playing Cable. Much credit is due his way for a
>really incredible performance.
>
>Once this film starts, it keeps moving. I can say that
>there’s not a wasted moment in this as the film has a lot to
>accomplish. For those of you who have theories on the Soul
>Stone, throw them out the window. One of the biggest surprises
>as well as emotional beats in this film comes from the Soul
>Stone sequence. That sequence is important on why you have had
>to see every single MCU film up until this point as this film
>makes references big and small to what’s come before.

Incredibly impressed with the pacing and editing. That was a very quick 2:40. Also, the above referenced sequence confirmed something I had always kicked around in my mind.
>
>The Russo brothers deserve a lot of credit for making this
>film works. The film consistently shifts from funny to super
>dark walking a tightrope that could’ve teetered into a mess.
>Part of what makes this work is the handheld camera work
>that’s being used. The shots and the way the camera moves
>makes this the most cinematic Avengers film thus far. It’s
>true that the first two Avengers films have a television film
>type quality to them, but here Joe and Anthony make you feel
>the stakes. The scope of this thing is so big, I understand
>now why every frame of this was shot in IMAX.
>
>With that said, this film does have its problems. Look, the
>ending here will have you shocked, I’m still shocked by it.

I can't even say shocked. I say somewhat anti-climactic because some outcomes have been made obvious. The previews for next year's movie will have to be some of the most guarded and deliberate scenes so as to not give anything away.

>But this is only a part of a whole. I’m frustrated that this
>didn’t exactly have an ending. One of the most referenced
>sequels of all time The Empire Strikes Back, has a beginning,
>middle, and end despite its various cliffhangers. Same goes
>for The Last Jedi. To even further this point each film in The
>Lord of the Rings trilogy has a beginning, middle, and end
>despite the fact that it’s one narrative. You can clearly
>tell this is Infinity War Part 1 before Marvel Studios decided
>to ditch that for now obvious reasons. Look, whatever Avengers
>4 (Infinity War Part 2) is gonna be called, I can go back and
>judge this as a whole instead of the sum of its parts.
>
>I don’t really like the split narratives either. The
>Guardians are split up with Thor and going on their own quest
>eventually meeting up with a group of Avengers. And the rest
>of the Avengers are globetrotting place to place. I understand
>why this had to happen as there are so many characters in the
>MCU (two of which do not appear at all and their absence is
>mentioned), but this also took the wind out of the sails at
>times as some stories became less interesting than the
>others.
>
>The children of Thanos cannot match Thanos’ presence. They
>are uber-powered stand-ins with no depth to them. In fact, I
>wondered why were they in the film in the first place. Thanos
>has a generic army of aliens (not a good thing) for our heroes
>to punch, these guys added nothing other than getting three of
>our heroes out into space and setting a trap for later.
I can kind of understand why. After the fragmentation of Civil War, it makes sense to disperse them in different places. Will leave it at that, you can probably figure out what I'm saying.

>And while there are some very cool setpieces, some had me
>glaze over after a while. I know people are getting tired of
>CG cities being knocked over, well sorry to say that this has
>multiple cities being leveled. And speaking of, they gotta do
>something with the Netflix characters (the whole of Marvel TV
>in general) cause it’s so distracting to see Midtown under
>attack and not see the Defenders join in.
isn't that all contractual, the TV v. Movie impenetrable wall?
>

>Look this works more often than it doesn’t. I enjoyed the
>film, just not as much as I would have hoped (that’s the
>problem with hype). With Black Panther literally just having
>been released upon the world, it’s a tough act for Infinity
>War to follow. Even more so considering that that’s one of
>the best comic book films made yet. Moving forward this will
>have serious consequences and that ending has me wondering
>just where do they go from here. Seriously, if I was a
>screenwriter, I’d be lost on how exactly do I resolve this.
>And going forward one this Marvel and DC should consider is
>having their heroes meet earlier in solo films or have certain
>characters costar like Hulk did in Thor: Ragnarok. Avoid
>everything until you are able to lay eyes on this. You don’t
>want this spoiled for you.
It had a LOT to unpack. Multiple viewings shall ensue.

  

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I forget his name, but only because I'm bad with names.

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He makes the proclamations and is incredibly powerful.

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14. "How I feel right now"
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19. "RE: How I feel right now"
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https://twitter.com/rulerofmyself/status/989745755475795969

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15. "I am just happy they did my dog Thanos right!!!!!!"
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This shit was good as hell

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17. "this captain Marvel movie has a LOT to clean up"
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movie was dope. could hear a pin drop in that theater at the end

  

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18. "Quite a 10 year payoff. Way too much to unpack"
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The one thing I'm grappling with are the stakes in the movie. Without giving anything away yet they are super high. And at the same time, they can't be. Not sure how I feel about it, but hearing conversations while we were filing out, I'm conflicted. More later...


It was a lot going on, but somehow the Russos pulled it off in impressive fashion. They can direct anything they want at Marvel and I'll be happy.

After a 6 year wait, Thanos was absolutely worth it. Any villain problem Marvel had he made up for it in spades.

I don't know how to feel just yet. Where in the world do we go from here? Can't wait to find out.


Oh, and bwood is right. Not sure the kids will play well with this one

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20. "It feels like someone set off a nuke at the All-Star Game."
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23. "This is exactly right"
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Like an all star game, there’s all this talent on the field that doesn’t necessarily play well together. Like bwood implied, there’s no plot development.

But like an all star game, the ending never disappoints.

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I meant in the way some of the fan faves died/disappeared. Like, the amount of people fucked up by one action.

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27. "^^give this man a gold star"
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Perfect description

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21. "ctrl + f + antman "
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Round 2

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26. "yah mon. lived up to the hype and then some."
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fantastic flick. my dogg josh brolin killed that shit.

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28. "That was exhausting "
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Bullet points because I’m still processing:

- Spidey dissipating broke my fucking heart. That was tough.

- “You’re an Avenger now, kid.” Also tears.

- Red Motherfucking Skull, dawg. (Was that Hugo?)

- I would kill for a Okoye/Widow team up film.

- I was highly critical when they cast Dave Bautista in the first GotG. I was so fucking wrong about that. Dude is amazing.

- Post creds. Two things. One, I started clapping at people. People were leaving when the credits started. I’m like “ten years! We’ve been doing this for ten years! How do you not get this!?” Two. Beeper shows the Capt. Marvel logo, audience goes nuts. Chick behind me loudly goes, “okay nerds what does that mean!?!?”

- Wanda got a loud gasp when she disappeared. As did Maria Hill. What is this world!?

So much more. I am overwhelmed like a motherfucker

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29. "spoilers"
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it seems most characters that people were sure would be killed off didnt get killed off. some that we would think no way they would kill did get killed.

at the moment it did hit me hard that they killed off many of them, BP, Mr. Lord, Gamora (!!!???!!!!), Spidey.

Definitely don't think these deaths are final. It may take at least halfway through pt 2 for them to come back though.

the post-credit scene almost left me happy then fury turned to dust

  

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31. "Spoilers Inside"
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>it seems most characters that people were sure would be
>killed off didnt get killed off. some that we would think no
>way they would kill did get killed.
>
>at the moment it did hit me hard that they killed off many of
>them, BP, Mr. Lord, Gamora (!!!???!!!!), Spidey.
>
>Definitely don't think these deaths are final. It may take at
>least halfway through pt 2 for them to come back though.
>
>the post-credit scene almost left me happy then fury turned to
>dust
Here's my rundown

Heimdall - murked
Loki - likely murked
Vision - motherfuckin dead
Gomorra - deceased

All the rest - in another dimension

similar to how I NEVER FULLY accepted Red Skull being done, mainly because he was BEAMED just like Thor and Loki do when heading to Asgard and not disintegrated like a lot of his victims that he shot with the cannon

Ant Man and Wasp are gonna have some post credit tie in and Captain Marvel is gonna bring it all home.

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36. "Viz was hard to watch"
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Like, you knew it had to happen, and they feinted at it a few times. But once Thanos hit the rewind button and peeled it out of hommie's head and he turned gray? Everybody was silent in the theatre

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37. "RE: Spoilers Inside"
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thor's line about loki being dead before makes me wonder about him. I think Thano's is going to reverse time to save Gamora. I definitely think the big bad will end up being someone else in pt 2.

i definitely expect new deaths in pt 2. some dusted ones will come back and stay but others will come back just to die.

i don't know what to expect in ant man. is it set after the events in infinity war? is it set just before? i would guess some hint for pt 2 will drop in post credits as well as a captain marvel set up.

captain marvel is set in the 90s im guessing we get all the back story and an explanation of where she has been this whole time and how she could help fix all this.

im not a big fan of speculation and fan theories so im going to have to find a way to get my mind of this franchise for now lol

  

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79. "I think Vision will return...."
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Shuri did copy Vision and we don't see her at all when people die. I wouldn't be surprised if took up the mantle of BP in Avengers 4 and rebooted Vision.
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30. "It wasn't Hugo."
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It was Ross Marquand if memory serves, who's a great impressionist and was absolutely doing a Hugo voice.

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“okay nerds what does that mean!?!?”

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32. "Can I make one *mild* complaint about the deaths?"
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The second I saw T'Challa die, I immediately said, "Oh, this isn't permanent." Like, at first, I was thinking they'd go a really ballsy route (and solve some overpopulated cast/contract extension issues) and actually kill people for good. But the *second* T'Challa vanished, it took the weight out of the rest of the deaths for the most part because you know they're all coming back now. I know they wanted to pick some fan favorites for shock value, and it worked... but smart fans also know that you aren't *actually* killing T'Challa, Peter Parker, or Starlord. (There was another name I'd add to that list, but I forget who it was.) You could've killed a *lot* of non-leads who were fan favorites and made audiences actually wonder "well shit, did they *actually* just do this?" Now I'm just un-worried, waiting for the Time Stone to rewind shit and bring everyone back.

But maybe that's just me. It was still an effective downer, but I think a few strategic death changes *really* would've had fans losing their minds for the next year and wondering just how out there Marvel was willing to go.

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34. "This is what I was alluding to with the stakes"
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You KNOW some of these guys aren't gone because they either printed money, already have movies in the works or both. So it did temper things quite a bit. Still didn't take away the initial shock, or make the year long wait to see how this resolves itself any easier.

A lot of people in the theatre were legit mad/sad at some of those deaths too. I'm thinking 'have you NEVER seen a Marvel movie?'

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35. "wholeheartedly agree"
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>The second I saw T'Challa die, I immediately said, "Oh, this
>isn't permanent." Like, at first, I was thinking they'd go a
>really ballsy route (and solve some overpopulated
>cast/contract extension issues) and actually kill people for
>good. But the *second* T'Challa vanished, it took the weight
>out of the rest of the deaths for the most part because you
>know they're all coming back now. I know they wanted to pick
>some fan favorites for shock value, and it worked... but smart
>fans also know that you aren't *actually* killing T'Challa,
>Peter Parker, or Starlord. (There was another name I'd add to
>that list, but I forget who it was.) You could've killed a
>*lot* of non-leads who were fan favorites and made audiences
>actually wonder "well shit, did they *actually* just do this?"
>Now I'm just un-worried, waiting for the Time Stone to rewind
>shit and bring everyone back.
when we know sequels are out, anyone who "appears" to die is for effect. Bucky, Strange, Okoye, M'Baku, Rocket, Falcon, WIDOW, would have made it much more believable. At least made us think "they're not really dead, are they???"

The challenge is going to be how they are able to bring them all back in a manner that is not contrived. I like the element of having the gauntlet fully charged in that what it can do is unpredictable since it seemingly has never been assembled...



ALSO, what if this:
https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/50083/1001650666/original/an-infinity-gauntlet-wielding-black-panther-led-an-army-of-undead-against-god-emperor-doom-in-the-war-for-battleworld-photo-u1?w=650&q=50&fm=jpg&fit=crop&crop=faces




>But maybe that's just me. It was still an effective downer,
>but I think a few strategic death changes *really* would've
>had fans losing their minds for the next year and wondering
>just how out there Marvel was willing to go.
agreed

  

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39. "Legit complaint and I agree"
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I felt it would've hit harder if he would've just flat out killed Tony.

Also does anyone else believe Hulk was scared to come out after that initial ass beating Thanos gave him? That's why Bruce couldn't turn.

Last thing, I didn't think Dr. Strange would have such a big role. I'm not mad I just didn't see that coming. Also remember when he told Tony he looked in the future and out of 4 million possible outcomes they only win in one. Maybe that outcome is why he so willingly gave Thanos the stone bc that was part of the outcome in order for them to win

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40. "RE: Legit complaint and I agree"
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>I felt it would've hit harder if he would've just flat out
>killed Tony.
would have had tremendous gravity, especially since he and Steve
never resolved their issues

>Also does anyone else believe Hulk was scared to come out
>after that initial ass beating Thanos gave him? That's why
>Bruce couldn't turn.

hell yeah he was scared. shook ones part III. only thing that's gonna get him to come back out is Widow being threatened.


>Last thing, I didn't think Dr. Strange would have such a big
>role. I'm not mad I just didn't see that coming. Also remember
>when he told Tony he looked in the future and out of 4 million
>possible outcomes they only win in one. Maybe that outcome is
>why he so willingly gave Thanos the stone bc that was part of
>the outcome in order for them to win

  

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85. "cosign on the Hulk theory"
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and the theory that a direct threat to Widow might have made him come out.

But considering what just happened, he may be mad enough to return when they fight Thanos again.

(spoilers)

I think it would have been possible to kill Starlord and continue GOTG without him, but not almost the entire team. Trying to figure out how they get out of this and figuring the Soul Stone can ressurect everybody, so they gotta figure out a way to get it from Thanos....cue up the heist theme music and the entry of Ant-Man in Avengers 4 with the key assist from Wasp (with Hank as the man in the chair). A miniaturized Hawkeye would help with the mission too, I'd wager.

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45. "Agreed "
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47. "I'm perfectly fine with those particular deaths"
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I think there will be an obvious distinction between both "types" of deaths.

I think the weight and shock of the snap deaths is tied in great part to the anxiety of the mystery of how they get undone.

The others received such intimate moments and we had to deal with them on a personal level. The snap deaths held a different sort of weight that yield different ramifications, and the Strange/Stark scene lays that pretty bare. Doc knew what was coming, and he knew what he was doing. The moment it becomes apparant that those deaths weren't permanent occurred when Doc told Tony this was the only way, not when the deaths actually occurred. Personally I think this is a shining example of quality storytelling that breaks those 101 rules.

To that end, the predictable inevitability of those ressurections sits perfectly well with me within the context of this story.

  

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49. "It's a movie with an infinity gauntlet"
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The audience should know what that means, given the powers of the stones involved. It's the emotional impact on the characters that should resonate, expecting them to resonate in the same way with savvy viewers is a little unrealistic for a comic book movie.

What should resonate is how the stakes have raised for those left behind, and what this does, potentially, is allow for greater focus on the original Avengers now that a lot of the wider universe heroes are sidelined.

Just IMO though.

  

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77. "that's not really a legit complaint tho"
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due to how obvious it is the deaths won't be permanent. it's already self-evident that these characters are too popular, with their own franchises, not to mention some of em still fresh to the MCU, plus a million other reasons, that they would definitely not be *permanently* killed.
the fact that we're getting deeper into things like the quantum realm and fucking with time and reality itself, should already be a pretty obvious indicator that this version of events won't stick.
the true deaths were ones that didn't involve people turning into (what looked like) leaves in the wind (Loki, Asgardians, Gamorra, Vision). i didn't see it as a cheap trick or an emotional cop out due to how obvious it was they'd all be back.

on another note, i got a real "The Leftovers" vibe when it happened lol.

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81. "The legitimacy of the argument isn't really up for question, imo. "
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>due to how obvious it is the deaths won't be permanent.

If your movie ends with a large twist and dwells on the emotional responses of both those dying and those responding to the deaths, if the obvious lack of permanence diminishes the emotional impact of these beats-- as it did for me-- then the complaint has a basis in legitimate reasoning. Whether or not you agree with that reasoning, or whether the moment worked for you personally, is up for debate, of course-- but it's not like the complaint is pulled out of an ass or is arbitrary in its presentation. There's logic behind it, and you're seeing several others above agree with it.

>it's
>already self-evident that these characters are too popular,
>with their own franchises, not to mention some of em still
>fresh to the MCU, plus a million other reasons, that they
>would definitely not be *permanently* killed.

I mean, one could also easily argue that the lack of permanence removes stakes from the equation. It'll be interesting to see how they deal with that issue going forward-- hopefully the permanent deaths of a few characters in this and/or the next film would help create at least the illusion of permanence so those stakes aren't diminished with time. We all know that franchise leads have to stick around, but shit, at least make us worry about their friends and loved ones.

>the true deaths were ones that didn't involve people turning
>into (what looked like) leaves in the wind (Loki, Asgardians,
>Gamorra, Vision). i didn't see it as a cheap trick or an
>emotional cop out due to how obvious it was they'd all be
>back.

But as you noted, since many of the deaths obviously aren't permanent and we'll be playing with time to bring them back, we could also *easily* bring back any of those characters as well. I'd be surprised if they didn't bring Gamorra back, and honestly, if Vision is gone for good, then Wanda ain't gonna have shit insofar as plot going forward, so they may as well off her too, lol.

Like I said, it's a *mild* complaint-- still very much enjoyed the movie. But when the movie settles for ending in the middle of the story because they want to leave us with such an obvious feint, I don't think pointing out how the stakes are negatively affected by the feint's obviousness is illegitimate. Just for the record.

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86. "Everyone at my screening was affected (spoilers)"
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Even though I thought they probably would find some way to save most (if not all) of the disappearing folks, seeing them actually fking crumble to dust still had an emotional effect. Just like when Tchalla got thrown over that waterfall...

We just have to wait longer to see the resolution...

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93. "RE: The legitimacy of the argument isn't really up for question, imo. "
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>If your movie ends with a large twist and dwells on the
>emotional responses of both those dying and those responding
>to the deaths, if the obvious lack of permanence diminishes
>the emotional impact of these beats-- as it did for me-- then
>the complaint has a basis in legitimate reasoning. Whether or
>not you agree with that reasoning, or whether the moment
>worked for you personally, is up for debate, of course-- but
>it's not like the complaint is pulled out of an ass or is
>arbitrary in its presentation. There's logic behind it, and
>you're seeing several others above agree with it.

After seeing this movie I'm kind of realizing how little of a sci-fi fan I am. Why spend all your time getting invested in these characters if you know there really aren't any consequences. After this I feel like I'll never trust a "death" and will just kinda sideye whoever I'm watching it with a be like "yeah, they're "dead"..right.."

>I mean, one could also easily argue that the lack of
>permanence removes stakes from the equation. It'll be
>interesting to see how they deal with that issue going
>forward-- hopefully the permanent deaths of a few characters
>in this and/or the next film would help create at least the
>illusion of permanence so those stakes aren't diminished with
>time. We all know that franchise leads have to stick around,
>but shit, at least make us worry about their friends and loved
>ones.

Exactly about the stakes.

I don't see how every one of the "deaths" aren't reversed? If T'Challa comes back, then Spideys coming back and so forth. How do they only selectively bring them back if t hey all went out the same way?

>But as you noted, since many of the deaths obviously aren't
>permanent and we'll be playing with time to bring them back,
>we could also *easily* bring back any of those characters as
>well. I'd be surprised if they didn't bring Gamorra back, and
>honestly, if Vision is gone for good, then Wanda ain't gonna
>have shit insofar as plot going forward, so they may as well
>off her too, lol.

Exactly, I just don't think I am a fan of time travel. It's kind of why I stayed away from Dr Strange for so long but ended up liking the movie, but not having any consequences or real fear of death for characters kinda sucks.

  

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94. "RE: The legitimacy of the argument isn't really up for question, imo. "
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>>due to how obvious it is the deaths won't be permanent.
>
>If your movie ends with a large twist and dwells on the
>emotional responses of both those dying and those responding
>to the deaths, if the obvious lack of permanence diminishes
>the emotional impact of these beats-- as it did for me-- then
>the complaint has a basis in legitimate reasoning. Whether or
>not you agree with that reasoning, or whether the moment
>worked for you personally, is up for debate, of course-- but
>it's not like the complaint is pulled out of an ass or is
>arbitrary in its presentation. There's logic behind it, and
>you're seeing several others above agree with it.
>

You're proving his point.

Thanos' goal was stated early on, not to mention big losses foreshadowed in an earlier Avengers movie. Thanos getting there in part 1 isn't a big twist.

The emotional impact being reduced for the audience members who don't understand the rules and implications of the gauntlet doesn't legitimise it as a criticism of the movie. You don't like it, lots of people won't, that doesn't make it legitimate.


>>it's
>>already self-evident that these characters are too popular,
>>with their own franchises, not to mention some of em still
>>fresh to the MCU, plus a million other reasons, that they
>>would definitely not be *permanently* killed.
>
>I mean, one could also easily argue that the lack of
>permanence removes stakes from the equation. It'll be
>interesting to see how they deal with that issue going
>forward-- hopefully the permanent deaths of a few characters
>in this and/or the next film would help create at least the
>illusion of permanence so those stakes aren't diminished with
>time. We all know that franchise leads have to stick around,
>but shit, at least make us worry about their friends and loved
>ones.

Not just anyone can wield the gauntlet. It took all the guardians to wield one stone, including Peter who was half god then. Obviously some people are coming back but there's no basis for saying everyone will, yet.

The stakes are raised because those heroes are off the board right now. They can't just dip back in and help. The original Avengers are in more of a jam than they were before, stakes raised. Just because they're not raised to your liking again doesn't make your point legitimate.

Just IMO though.

  

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102. "RE: The legitimacy of the argument isn't really up for question, imo. "
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>The stakes are raised because those heroes are off the board
>right now. They can't just dip back in and help. The original
>Avengers are in more of a jam than they were before, stakes
>raised. Just because they're not raised to your liking again
>doesn't make your point legitimate.


Everyone's point of view is legitimate. Movies and their interpretations aren't finite. His POV just isn't to your liking.

  

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105. "RE: The legitimacy of the argument isn't really up for question, imo. "
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>
>Everyone's point of view is legitimate. Movies and their
>interpretations aren't finite. His POV just isn't to your
>liking.
>

I wasn't saying his point of view is illegitimate, I was saying it doesn't make for a legitimate critcism of the movie.

Superman being invulnerable lowers the stakes every time someone points a gun at him (especially after the umpteenth time it's done). Sure it's a legitimate point of view, but it's also legitimate to point out that such a criticism isn't valid. He's invulnerable, that's essential to the storyline. It's an infinity gauntlet, it's essential to the storyline.

Just IMO though.

  

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95. "didn't bother me at all."
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even knowing the impermanence / inevitable reversing of the final deaths, they still resonated with me (and most folks, i'd imagine) in the moment, as did the emotional response of the surviving characters.

shit worked for me, 100 percent.

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116. "I'll even pre-empt that - once Dr. Strange gave away the stone"
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I knew the major events that happened afterwards would all get reversed to some extent...he's acting on the most information of any character (his future visions).

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183. "This is how it went in the comics"
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Nobody dies forever in comics man

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38. "Also, who is going to get that man a shield??"
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Please make it Shuri, please make it Shuri.

If she designs Cap another vibranium shield......yo

  

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44. "It won’t be Shuri"
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She probably disappeared too. Marvel went all Game of Thrones on us.

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83. "If it wasn't onscreen, I think they're fine"
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Hawkeye, Ant-Man, and other people who weren't onscreen at the climax are probably safe. This includes the Netflix characters.

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41. "That movie was phenomenal. Some thoughts:"
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-one of the quietest exits to a movie I've been a part of in a long time.

-there were no lulls in this flick. It wasn't quite like "Dark Knight" holding my breath, but maybe because there were still some jokes and levity at certain parts.

-Marvel did a masterful job at the world-building and character development of these characters.

-as a Marvel fan since I was a kid, these movies made me care about characters I've never fucked with on any level (Captain America, Dr. Strange, Ant-Man, Thor, Loki) or didn't even know existed (Gomorra, Rocket Raccoon).

-I go into the MCU movies thinking I already have favorites. (Black Panther and Cap) are 1A & 1B. And I've always loved Spider-man. Every iteration. But Dr. Strange. I fuck with him. Gomorra? I dug her. Rocket? Nigga what?.

But then there's more. M'Baku, Okoye, Groot, Hulk. So I'm invested in all of these characters and their stories.

-That flick has so many instances when my adult ass is clapping in the theater like a 4-year-old. Thor comes in with that lightning. I'm clapping like a goofball. Spidey does anything, I'm cheering.

-I cannot wait unitl the next one.

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42. "Awesome flick"
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Dinklage as a dwarf that was bigger than everyone made me laugh out loud. Totally agree with Longo on the deaths. Obviously we know what movies are coming so they seemed to use those characters that most everyone want new movies out of to kill time and let us know they would not be coming until after Avengers 4.

  

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>Dinklage as a dwarf that was bigger than everyone made me laugh out loud.

  

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46. "The All Star Game comparison is right on (And question)"
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This isn't the best MCU film, but it was non-stop high spots from the jump. I mean we had Stark, Spidey, Star-Lord and Dr Strange quipping in the SAME FIGHT. That by itself would've been the single most memorable moment of most Marvel flicks, not even top 5 here.




*SPOILER QUESTION*






So we all know that everyone who disintegrated is coming back somehow, But you think Gamora's really gone for good? What about Vision? I could see those deaths actually sticking (because EVERYONE isn't coming back.)

And how does Antman & the Wasp handle this? Just a "This all takes place six months before Infinity War" message?

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50. "I say Gamora comes back"
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Only because there will be a GoTG Vol. 3. If she's dead, it will be a real bummer watching that movie. She brings balance to the crew as a foil/lover of Peter. If she's gone, it will be tough to watch.


>
>So we all know that everyone who disintegrated is coming back
>somehow, But you think Gamora's really gone for good? What
>about Vision? I could see those deaths actually sticking
>(because EVERYONE isn't coming back.)
>
>And how does Antman & the Wasp handle this? Just a "This all
>takes place six months before Infinity War" message?

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53. "I think Vision might come back..."
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Only because Shure was working on him and might have all of his AI stored based on what she was doing trying to separate him from the stone. They specifically had he scene showing her having outsmarted Stark and Banner, so if she doesn’t end up being successful that was a waste. They also didn’t show her turning to dust, so she might bring Vision back before the characters killed by the gauntlet return.

I also don’t think that ALL of the characters that turned to dust will come back. And I do t think it will be any kind of T.I. e travel trickery (too simple/cheap). I think they aren’t really dead but trapped in another dimension/reality, and Dr. Strange knew that the only way to win would be allowing Thanos to use the gauntlet but that there was a chance that those “killed” could come back to out dimension/reality. Maybe Stark needs to somehow get the gauntlet and hen do something else with it.

  

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112. "He's basically software, so yeah. "
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>Only because Shure was working on him and might have all of
>his AI stored based on what she was doing trying to separate
>him from the stone. They specifically had he scene showing her
>having outsmarted Stark and Banner, so if she doesn’t end up
>being successful that was a waste. They also didn’t show her
>turning to dust, so she might bring Vision back before the
>characters killed by the gauntlet return.

I'm guessing she "copied" him and she'll end up rebooting him. (Didn't they say something to that effect? Something about him being mostly software and ideas from other people's brains)


>
>I also don’t think that ALL of the characters that turned to
>dust will come back. And I do t think it will be any kind of
>T.I. e travel trickery (too simple/cheap). I think they
>aren’t really dead but trapped in another dimension/reality,
>and Dr. Strange knew that the only way to win would be
>allowing Thanos to use the gauntlet but that there was a
>chance that those “killed” could come back to out
>dimension/reality. Maybe Stark needs to somehow get the
>gauntlet and hen do something else with it.

I think the Time Stone comes into play at some point.

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48. "This is why I wish old school epics were still a thing....."
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I wish I could've just watched the second part right after a 10-minute intermission. This film feels more like the first act of two rather than a standalone entry.

Having said that, I'm glad someone finally had enough balls to let a villain just win one.

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52. "The ending fell flat for me"
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ONLY because I know there HAS TO BE some sort of time reversal or trickery to get a lot of the evaporated characters back.

Seems like the stakes were really low.

Also, they'd have gotten the stones back if Quill wasn't such a moron. Why are characters such morons??

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54. "Yeah, didn't care for Quill's actions. Also on Dr. Strange:"
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Exactly what did he see? If he saw only one outcome where they win, and it involved Thanos having all the stones, why go through with the plan to take the gauntlet? That obviously wasn't the one that would work. If you give up the stone you eliminate Quill being a dumbass and the Stark death fakeout. Even if they are playing for the 'endgame' as Strange said before fading to dust, none of that had to happen if Thanos getting the stone was the only way to go.

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55. "Quill was stupid, Strange made sense"
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Like, if you look at a zillion ways for shit to work and the only path that worked was a total fucked up loss with a hail mary pass that maybe maybe maybe maybe MIGHT etch out a win at the last millisecond, it would only be human to try ya best to avoid that shit and hope ya was wrong with those other calculations until you’re faced with the truth.

Otherwise, ya on ya Dr. Manhattan (c) DC comics cold emotionless shit and you creep everyone out.

Quill’s scene sucked, although id argue his being so homicidal when faced with his loved ones dying (how he blasted his pops to death in Galaxy 2) is “canon”.

  

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65. "Quill's actions were perfectly in line with his character."
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So while it made me cringe, you could see it coming.

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75. "agreed. pretty much the same thing happens in GOTG 2"
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56. "Props to Disney for having the confidence to take risks"
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Disney has definitely rolled the die with their billion dollar franchises.

I felt the same way about this film as I did after seeing Rogue One. I never thought it was possible for Disney to allow a movie to be released where everyone would be killed. Obviously, both Lucasfilm and Marvel Studios have fantastic writers that make us care about the characters, but they realize the gravity of killing off characters and don't do it haphazardly or cheaply.

This was an endgame, and it had of the gravitas of such.

I still need to see it again.

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57. "They didnt take risks"
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None of those major characters are actually dead

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61. "Only cause we old cynical movie goers/comic readers. "
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Like having a scene with Spiderman begging for his life is a big deal considering how much money is gonna be made by kids watching this film






  

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106. "The stakes were as high as possible."
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It is a comic book film. If you are mad at characters coming back from the dead, this isn't the genre for you. Let's not act like there's no ramifications for these deaths. It wasn't done for shock value. It seemed to be random, which was the point.

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58. "Saw it a second time. Audience notes:"
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Both audiences gasped a bit when Loki got his neck snapped. Everybody clapped when Steve Rogers stepped out of the shadows. There were cheers when Wakanda popped on the screen. There were gasps and silence when Tony was about to bite it (I really thought that was it for him). Tonights audience were almost enraged when they saw BP turn to dust. Both audiences were broken when Pete ashed up. Hell, I knew it was coming and shed a tear, mainly because I had a few days to think about the relationship between Parker and Stark (I am really going to miss Tom Holland playing off RDJ when he hangs it up)

The first night when the credits rolled, everybody was in such shock that it was dead silent, and nobody moved. Tonight's crowd were much more vocal with their disbelief that Thanos won. All I could do is laugh.

Marvel has to be banking on the fact that there are a large number of people that haven't really thought of the fact that movies with some of the deceased have already been announced, so the deaths, while moving, don't mean much. I heard sooooo many people at both viewings that were upset that Black Panther turned to dust, forgetting that his movie just printed a billion dollars and will have a sequel. I suppose being into comics and news on the MCU does change your view, but not everybody, or even the majority, are. So if they wanted a pretty shocking ending that will get the masses? Mission accomplished.

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62. "Agreed. Those deaths meant something"
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And its like, I get it, once Black Panther died I was like “Yeah, they coming back” and lost my suspension of disbelief, but I think its unfair to ask em to switchup the story telling because they know they are dealing with some people in the audience who are more savvy then others. Particularly if its cause of comic spoilers or general studio exec quarterbacking.

Like I kinda envy watching it through those less cynical eyes...the way I wouldda watched movies at 16 l

  

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64. "Less cynicism and less information"
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>Like I kinda envy watching it through those less cynical
>eyes...the way I wouldda watched movies at 16 l

We've got access to more info and tidbits about these movies before, during and after we see them, so things are either spoiled or openly theoried and thought pieced to death. To go in knowing little and come out having to wait to get any answers would be nice

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66. "but that's NOT cynicism. i assume you like me read the comics"
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as a kid. half of them die and come back IN THE COMICS

you had to have known people were gunna die going to see this.

I went in HOPING they had the courage to actually kill characters, and they did, but the only ones worth a damn were: Loki, Heimdall, Gamora

everything else was meh, cause they did it wrong.

for the life of gawd i don't believe in, they should've killed Stark and Cap like they did the three mentioned above. THAT would've stuck, been dope.

I just glad a villain won. it was a good movie

  

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70. "Definitely read and collected comics, but it is different"
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I have this discussion with my 16 year old and find I have to look at things differently sometimes. Plenty of stuff that happens in the comics you can't do in the movies for a number of reasons (studio character rights, characters not introduced, storylines that wouldn't play in society today, storylines that have too much backstory/history/baggage, etc). So while part of me wants to play MC Disagree whenever a movie diverges from the comics (as I did with nearly every Spiderman movie), I understand a 16 year old today would have no concept or care for storylines and background of stories that reach back to the 70's. Even if you gave them the comics, they may not resonate with them for a variety of reasons.

You have to look at the MCU as it's own thing, with their version of the characters pulling from the comics, but not being exactly the same. Killing off a character in a comic and bringing them back via plot device/retcon is easy in the comics. In the movies? Harder to do from a practical standpoint (actors age, need contracts renegotiated, sequel and story needs to be greenlit, etc). In a comic you can change something in a few issues, i.e a few months. Can't do that with a multi million dollar movie and billion dollar franchises.

Since this is a 2 part movie, I can't say what deaths will stick and which ones won't (besides BP and Spidey). Cap and Tony may still die by the end of Avengers 4. We may get the meaningful deaths for the casual fan and the hardcore fan by time all is said and done

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76. "That's the thing, we gotta remove ourselves from all the history"
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Like Game of Thrones had it's major plot points up until the last year or so written out in novel form decades in advance. It would't be fair to be like, 'Ugh, Red Wedding, this again? Couldn't they have made it different? We know this shit (although, ironically enough the tv version was even more vicious, lol).


Like you, I felt disappointed when I saw Panther 'disappear' cause I knew what was gonna happen. But at the same time, I got into my feels on Spiderman basically begging for his life even though both characters are ultimately covered in platinum plot armor.

Could it be because the filmmakers just gave Spidey a much more effective death and just got lazy with the others (imagine if BP had a scene where he told his sister to watch over the kingdom how dope it would have been for the future of the franchise and to make his death mean something). I hope that's why I felt, like you, the deaths were missing some oompth.

However

If its because the general plot points are in our DNA and we effectively sat in those seats and were like, 'Amuse me bitch, ive been reading this things for decades and even though I loved the original story ya better come up with something new'. then its kinda our fault isn't it?

  

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80. "Ok, I can dig that"
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59. "How does Banner know so much about Thanos?"
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You figure he ran into him the same time Thor did, and he was still Hulk. But he hits Strange's house with proclamations on how bad Thanos is and what he's done and what he can do for the rest of the movie. Unless Heimdal put those thoughts in his head while he was beaming back to earth, I"m not sure how he has that info

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63. "He saw thor massacre all the asgardians"
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>You figure he ran into him the same time Thor did, and he was
>still Hulk. But he hits Strange's house with proclamations on
>how bad Thanos is and what he's done and what he can do for
>the rest of the movie. Unless Heimdal put those thoughts in
>his head while he was beaming back to earth, I"m not sure how
>he has that info

Who are all supernatural beings and literallly got the hulk knocked outta him which would make him the most powerful person he’s faced. I cant remember if he hit them with the heavy exposition on earth which def. wouldda been weird, but you gotta figure by what happened on the ship and the knowledge that he’s the original invader in avengers 1 (presumably from that loki/thor convo)...id be scared too

  

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87. "whenever thanos attacks the asgardians initially"
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presumably bruce is there, not hulk.

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60. "RE: The Avengers: Infinity War Discussion Post (SPOILERS WITHIN)"
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67. "also can we dead the weak villain ideas at this point?"
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Thanos
Killmonger
Bucky as Winter Soldier
Loki
Hela
Ego
and even Ultron (imo - i know that aint popular)

were/are all good villains.

  

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68. "Disagree on one of those."
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I thought Ego was an average villain b.

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69. "FAIR"
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71. "I agree"
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>Thanos
>Killmonger
>Bucky as Winter Soldier
>Loki
>Hela
>Ego
>and even Ultron (imo - i know that aint popular)
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>were/are all good villains.
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72. "Who else wanted that raggedy robed figure to be"
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the embodiment of death from the comics?

  

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73. "Could be in part 2"
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Would make sense if Deadppol joins up and Thanos gets jealous.

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78. "RE: Who else wanted that raggedy robed figure to be"
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>the embodiment of death from the comics?

I thought they were referencing the white Nick Fury that got banished to the moon.

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74. "Yeah, a lot to unpack. Thoughts:"
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(sorry if these are echoed elsewhere during the thread):

- "It was the only way..." (c) Dr. Strange. Him going into a trance and exploring all the possible futures has to be the key to the end. He had to see that allowing Thanos to "win" and allow him to eliminate half the population of the universe was going to be the key to eventually defeating him. And setting everything right.

- Thanos is very much the best Marvel villain. And like top two or three of best superhero movie villain ever. He also makes the "apocalyptic movie villain must grand pronouncements about his own greatness and chew scenery whenever he's on the screen" look really fucking cliched and silly at this point.

- Something that I didn't notice but that my 10-year-old nephew pointed out is that they're basically down to the original Avengers from the first movie. Remains to be seen if they bring back Hawkeye for the sequel.

- Okay, obviously everyone who got killed via the Infinity Gauntlet is coming back. But for the other "major" characters, I'm guessing only Loki and the Asgardians are staying dead. They tease Gamorra's death in every film she's been in, so I hope her purpose in the MCU films is beyond "someone we can 'kill' to pull at the audience's heart-strings." I also think there's a possibility to bring back Vision, but as the tragically emotionless comic book version of the character from the '90s.

- Because I'm goofy, Thor calling Rocket a rabbit cracked me up every time. Hope there'll be more of it in the sequel.

- Overall, still a very good movie. Certainly not the MCU movie (honestly, it's not better than the first installment of the Avengers, or enough of the other movies) but still very good.

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90. "rabbit"
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that cracked me up too.

including the line rocket says about the only way he was able to smuggle the eye out.

like always there were so many great lines but the ending pretty much overshadowed them. i definitely want to see it again.

  

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91. "Gamorra (spoiler)"
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While I like her character, I do hope her death is permanent. Why? It was probably the most emotional death in the film (next to Spiderman, but obviously he won't stay dead), and showed just how high the stakes were.

Bringing her back just takes away from the gravity of this film.

Plus it doesn't necessarily have to hurt the Guardians films. Since they are set years before the events in Infinity War, they can just have Guardians 3 set shortly after Guardians 2, when Gamorra is still alive. That way, James Gunn is still free to tell whatever story he wants, independent of the bigger Avengers story arc.

Personally, I hope they don't do that. I prefer the payoff that fans get from having watched all the other movies in the franchise, to see how they effect all the stories going forward. But with Guardians and Black Panther especially, I could see them finding a way to pick up from the previous movie, so that the audience isn't required to have seen the Avengers movies to know what's going on.

  

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107. "I believe from what i read is hawkeye will be in Ant-man Wasp flick"
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they said he and ant-man had arranged a deal where they were on "house arrest"

  

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88. "HOLY. SHIT."
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My expectation for this movie was really high. And it delivered and then some.

I loved the hell out of this. Satisfying on every level. Maybe my favorite Marvel movie. I can't wait to see it again.

  

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89. "pretty good. good mix of everything"
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the weird thing to me is seeing people insist everyone should watch the old movies to get ready.

you don't have to watch shit. everyone explains themselves and shows what they're about as soon as they show up.

the only person who isn't really explained is red skull and he's from the one movie I haven't seen and it's still not going to ruin anything for you.


it kinda sucks that for business reasons you already know that strange, t'challa and spider-man aren't perma-dead, but that didn't take away from the impact. it was like leaving game 6 after the home team had a chance to end the series, but they lost and now you know they gotta go on the road for game 7.

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92. "Pretty good analogy"
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>it was like leaving game 6 after the home team had a chance to end the series, but they lost and now you know they gotta go on the road for game 7.

Pretty much. Part 2 is for all the marbles. BP didn't really hurt (I think they should have wiped Okoye, which may have stung a bit harder, as it's more believable they write her out than BP, though not really because BILLION DOLLARS) but Pete did, even though I know he's not dead for long. I think the deaths work in the moment for just about everyone, but then fade for comic and MCU junkies. For everyone else, they still stick. Listening to the people that leave the theater, you can tell

While I posted this over in GD, if I had to pare down the movies to see for someone that has never seen a MCU movie to get who's who and what's going on, I'd say:

Avengers 1 (introduces the team as a whole)
Avengers 2 (introduces Vision, more info on Infinity Stones)
GOTG 1 (introduces the Guardians, more Infinity Stone info, more Thanos)
Civil War (Bucky, Black Panther, Spidey, why they broke up)
Ragnarok (Doc Strange cameo, where have Hulk & Thor been, sets the start of IW)

as RJCC said, you CAN go in cold and figure out who does what on some level, watching these 5 sets the table for 95% of who and what you're looking at. At worst, you could see IW all by itself and still have a better idea on what's going on with 30+ characters than you could with Justice League

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96. "yup."
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>I think the
>deaths work in the moment for just about everyone, but then
>fade for comic and MCU junkies. For everyone else, they still
>stick. Listening to the people that leave the theater, you can
>tell

100% accurate in my personal experience.

the only ppl i've seen/heard being blasé are nerds like us. non-nerds were definitely affected.

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109. "RE: Pretty good analogy"
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Captain America 1 and 2 also essential.

First Avenger - Introduces Howard Stark, Peggy Carter, the tesseract, Shield's formation, Red Skull, Bucky Barnes

TWS: Brings Falcon, TWS and delves further into Steve and Bucky's history, develops Steve and Natasha's relationship, sets up Civil War, exposes SHIELD/Hydra

>>it was like leaving game 6 after the home team had a chance
>to end the series, but they lost and now you know they gotta
>go on the road for game 7.
>
>Pretty much. Part 2 is for all the marbles. BP didn't really
>hurt (I think they should have wiped Okoye, which may have
>stung a bit harder, as it's more believable they write her out
>than BP, though not really because BILLION DOLLARS) but Pete
>did, even though I know he's not dead for long. I think the
>deaths work in the moment for just about everyone, but then
>fade for comic and MCU junkies. For everyone else, they still
>stick. Listening to the people that leave the theater, you can
>tell
>
>While I posted this over in GD, if I had to pare down the
>movies to see for someone that has never seen a MCU movie to
>get who's who and what's going on, I'd say:
>
>Avengers 1 (introduces the team as a whole)
>Avengers 2 (introduces Vision, more info on Infinity Stones)
>GOTG 1 (introduces the Guardians, more Infinity Stone info,
>more Thanos)
>Civil War (Bucky, Black Panther, Spidey, why they broke up)
>Ragnarok (Doc Strange cameo, where have Hulk & Thor been, sets
>the start of IW)
>
>as RJCC said, you CAN go in cold and figure out who does what
>on some level, watching these 5 sets the table for 95% of who
>and what you're looking at. At worst, you could see IW all by
>itself and still have a better idea on what's going on with
>30+ characters than you could with Justice League

  

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110. "none of that is true. I *still* haven't seen the first cap"
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there's no point in being familiar with the tesseract.


it's just a thing, and in this movie it's thrown away to get the gem inside.

peggy carter? if you can't put that subplot together in Civil War then idk what to tell you man.

I don't read comics at all but like, I've heard of Red Skull and I got it when he showed up.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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121. "but you've SEEN everything but Cap 1, so your point is invalidated"
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>there's no point in being familiar with the tesseract.
>
>
>it's just a thing, and in this movie it's thrown away to get
>the gem inside.
>
>peggy carter? if you can't put that subplot together in Civil
>War then idk what to tell you man.
>
>I don't read comics at all but like, I've heard of Red Skull
>and I got it when he showed up.
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

until you find someone that has only watched those 5 flicks, you have no idea how they would track it.

  

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122. "RE: but you've SEEN everything but Cap 1, so your point is invalidated"
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>>there's no point in being familiar with the tesseract.
>>
>>
>>it's just a thing, and in this movie it's thrown away to get
>>the gem inside.
>>
>>peggy carter? if you can't put that subplot together in
>Civil
>>War then idk what to tell you man.
>>
>>I don't read comics at all but like, I've heard of Red Skull
>>and I got it when he showed up.
>>
>>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at
>
>until you find someone that has only watched those 5 flicks (and it's highly doubtful that anyone would watch just those 5 and nothing else),
you have no idea how they would track it.
>

  

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144. "I don't think you know what invalidated means"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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180. "Just one more time, and I'll go slow"
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>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at


You said someone doesn't need to see shit from the past to understand IW.

Someone else lists the 5 essentials. I add a few others.

You said "NONE OF THIS IS TRUE. I never saw "

I'm presuming you saw everything except for Cap? Unless I missed somewhere where you said otherwise.

I'm also presuming that you knew the premise of Captain America beforehand.

Someone who's seen 17 out of 18 speaking for a hypothetical person who can only pick five has absolutely no idea what parts of the IW they would or wouldn't connect with.


  

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99. "RE: pretty good. good mix of everything"
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>it kinda sucks that for business reasons you already know that
>strange, t'challa and spider-man aren't perma-dead, but that
>didn't take away from the impact. it was like leaving game 6
>after the home team had a chance to end the series, but they
>lost and now you know they gotta go on the road for game 7.
>

Exactly, I'd add to the analogy that you have to go on the road knowing half your team can't start the next one.

Just IMO though.

  

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103. "yup, a bunch of your starters are on crutches icing up and it's like"
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wtf do we do now?
www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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97. "all i know is if some Eternals show up in part two"
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ill have a nerdgasm
there have being subtle hints
also if Adam Warlock shows up....whooooo

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98. "a silver surfer fly by"
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just to make a snatch at the glove. no dialogue, no explanation, just norrin radd for five seconds. whet people's appetite for the F4 reboot.

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104. "I really want Silver Surfer in MCU IN PART 2"
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Warlock, would be cool, but I've always loved SS

  

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108. "Warlock is definitely in GotG 3 not sure if he will make an appearance i..."
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https://www.cbr.com/infinity-war-ending-guarantees-adam-warlock-mcu-debut/2/

Definitely think the soul world is going to come into play and possibly where the half that where evaporated may be laying wait.

  

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100. "They better NOT bring a fucking Starbucks to Wakanda for part 2"
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101. "Kinda mad we didnt get the....(SPOILERS WITHIN)"
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Thanos giving IronMan the "Mean Mark Heart Punch" and Stark hitting the ground like a sack of potatoes like we saw in the original trailer. I kept waiting for it, but alas...


Also, the scene where theyre all charging in Wakanda in the OG trailer, Hulk is there, but we know that after the way Thanos gave him that work, he aint want none.


My boy pointed that out to me too..that the original Avengers were the ones that survived the finger snap...thats interesting.



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182. "yeah the ringer went over a lot of trailer -> movie changes"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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111. "Why no Valkyrie? "
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Was holding out hope throughout she'd appear

I hope Gamora isn't dead - especially because that lowers my excitement for GOTG - but I agree with comments above that resurrecting her death would be the most difficult to swallow if they are going with the "higher stakes" approach.

Gotta assume going with the Nebula storyline makes a ton of sense in the next one - or the alternate reality aspect where the ones who faded away are alive.

either way - loved the movie - between this and Ragnarok - Thor is just killing it. Every scene with him and any of the GOTG was absolutely hilarious. Drax literally made me lol every single line he had - and Quill lowering his voice with Thor was amazing.

Highly entertaining from the absolute jump

  

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113. "The problem w/Valkyrie and the whole opening scene"
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Not really a problem, but an issue.

Later in the film they say Thanos killed Loki, Heimdall and *half* the Asgardians.

But the way that opening scene played out, it didn't seem like they took any captives at all. Basically everyone except Thor and The Hulk were dead.

Which would include both Korg and Valkyrie, since they were all on the same ship at the end of Ragnarok.

I'm sure the reason is there wasn't a place for those characters in the movie, and they didn't want to specifically kill them off.

But they even showed the devastated remains of the ship, with corpses floating around. Nobody survived that shit.

I wonder how they are going to explain how Korg and Valkyrie survived it. Unless the inevitable reset done in Avengers 4 is going to undo everything so that they don't need to worry about it.

  

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115. "yep - main issue with movie is didn't see BP and Ragnarok character popu..."
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if they made this further past BP he would've clearly been a bigger part of the movie, he had a few good lines but would've been huge storyline imo - and I think Valkyrie and Korg wouldve been written in - hoping to see more of all 3 next time around

  

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123. "Joe Russo Confirms Valkyrie Survived Infinity War"
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https://screenrant.com/avengers-infinity-war-valkyrie-survived.

no confirmation on Korg (or Meek) but looks like at least half the Asgardians survived. would've been cool to at least see that opening battle/slaughter. i'm kinda hoping they LotR this shit and give us like a 3/3.5hr cut when the dvd hits.

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117. "Dope - 10 years of build and it paid off. "
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The Russo brothers ability to weave multiple storylines seamlessly was on full display..and the depth given to Thanos was also great. The pacing was great, some beautiful shots....loved it.

In terms of the story itself - Dr. Strange is the key to the entire thing as he has the most information. The "turned to dust" aspect is cool with Thanos watching the sunset but we know they're coming back, who I wonder about are those killed otherwise (Loki, Vision, Gamora)....I hope they don't come back so we get some actual weight to the deaths.

Great first part...can't wait to see where it goes.

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118. "I just want to add that they NAILED the credit roll"
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The music they chose, heading to the "AVENGERS INFINITY WAR" getting Thanos'ed off the screen?

That was just perfectly done.

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126. "The entire score was underrated"
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I love the addition of timpani drums when Thanos was walking on that desert planet

>The music they chose, heading to the "AVENGERS INFINITY WAR"
>getting Thanos'ed off the screen?
>
>That was just perfectly done.
>
>D

  

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119. "Please tell me where were all of the High Tech weapons in Wakanda?"
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You mean to tell me that these jokers didn't have one high tech plane, tank, canon, rifle, or hand held gun. NOTHING?
.
.

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120. "Whatcha mean, they had plenty of tech"
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>You mean to tell me that these jokers didn't have one high
>tech plane, tank, canon, rifle, or hand held gun. NOTHING?
>.
>.
>
>"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a
>supernatural force that is outside of space and time could
>have done that. ~ Francis Collins

The forcefield
The personal shields
And their spears/staffs shot plasma bolts

  

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124. "the wakanda tech made regular guns look stupid"
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like really dude, you're trying to get them with assault rifles???

  

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140. "They actually had a few shots of Wakandian ships "
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flying overhead engaged in battle. Also, let's not forget Wakanda is just coming off the heels of a Civil War. BP event asks how many folks they have left to go into battle.

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125. "the joke is on me really. They make the same movie, I go and see it"
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there's so many explosions, so much punching, so much cheesy emotion in these movies. But the joke is on me because I keep going to see them.

They carry as much weight as a piece of paper.

This shit peaked at Iron Man 1.

  

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127. "Lol no it didn't "
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iron man was good but it wasn't that damn good. id put it behind winter soldier, avengers 1, infinity war, guardians 1, black panther and Thor: ragnorak.

Phase 3 has had the best films (except for GOGT2, and even that was gorgeous)

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130. "GotG2 gets better with repeat viewings"
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i was kinda underwhelmed the first time, but really loved it the 2nd and 3rd go around.

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128. "had the same exact feeling while watching civil war"
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a couple of movies later and i've started avoiding the entire genre for good

  

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129. "You guys are the real mighty heroes, how proud I am of u"
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>a couple of movies later and i've started avoiding the entire
>genre for good

  

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131. "Not criticizing people who like these movies, criticizing myself..."
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...and the movies themselves

These aren’t “good” movies. They’re not. They’re at-times fun, sure. And in some spots they’ve aimed to be something more inspired - Guardians and Black Panther most notably.

But by and large these aren’t -that- far removed from Transformers. Excessive CGI, wooden dialogue, entire setpieces with no tangible sets visible...the difference is we like the intellectual property more and the actors make the most of the least: I mean goddamn we’ve got Mark Ruffalo pleading with Benedict Cumberbatch about a genocidal alien invading, and it still actually comes off earnest.

Good movies challenge their audiences and take risks. I mean they killed off Spidey and T’Challa, come on. (They even had the nerve to kill Groot AFTER T’Challa!)

These flicks are just big, loud, and formulaic to me by now. I’ll see the next one just to see this story to conclusion then I’m out. I promise you buildings will fall, things will explode, people will get punched, and the good guys will win.

  

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133. "RE: Not criticizing people who like these movies, criticizing myself..."
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>...and the movies themselves
>
>These aren’t “good” movies. They’re not. They’re
>at-times fun, sure. And in some spots they’ve aimed to be
>something more inspired - Guardians and Black Panther most
>notably.

So Guardians of the Galaxy and Black Panther are not good, but they are "aimed to be something more inspired." But "inspired" is not good?

>
>But by and large these aren’t -that- far removed from
>Transformers. Excessive CGI, wooden dialogue, entire setpieces
>with no tangible sets visible...the difference is we like the
>intellectual property more and the actors make the most of the
>least: I mean goddamn we’ve got Mark Ruffalo pleading with
>Benedict Cumberbatch about a genocidal alien invading, and it
>still actually comes off earnest.

Wooden dialogue is not a critique i could put on Marvel movies. No way. Are you talking about Ronan or Thanos? I don't assign any particular high esteem to Mark Ruffalo or benedict Cumberbatch. They're "good," but they are not "above" this source material.

>
>Good movies challenge their audiences and take risks. I mean
>they killed off Spidey and T’Challa, come on. (They even had
>the nerve to kill Groot AFTER T’Challa!)

Ah okay, the critics definition. Filmmakers can fail miserably whilst taking risks - resulting in a movie that is not good. I don't give out "E" for effort or spirit. This is not punk rock.

>
>These flicks are just big, loud, and formulaic to me by now.
>I’ll see the next one just to see this story to conclusion
>then I’m out. I promise you buildings will fall, things will
>explode, people will get punched, and the good guys will win.

There's not much else you can do with this genre. I hope you're not a fan of the comic book page, either.

  

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134. "LOL"
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your whole opinion becomes mute when you say they're along the lines of Transformers. smh

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160. "*moot"
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>your whole opinion becomes mute

  

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132. "lol, what? there's a reason people are silent at the end"
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>
>there's so many explosions, so much punching, so much cheesy
>emotion in these movies. But the joke is on me because I keep
>going to see them.
>
>They carry as much weight as a piece of paper.

The audience has spent 10 years getting to know these characters and actually felt hurt when a bunch of them died even when they knew some of them will be back. There were tears. How was there no weight to this movie?

outside of that I'm wondering what you expected/wanted for a big superhero team-up movie? the story/character motivations made sense, the plot wasn't too predictable, the stakes were high, and the action was non-stop.

RE: Iron Man 1. It's fallen to middle of the pack to me and that's not hate. I just think they've perfected their formula and the one weak point (bad villains) has now become a strong point.

  

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136. "It's most likely much too sophisticated for you to grasp"
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😂😂😂😂

  

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139. "I thought you were into discourse? Debate? Dialogue?"
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one of those D-words...

oh, douchebaggery. I was confused.

  

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142. "Oh, I am. But we've long established that you're several tiers beneath m..."
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You consistently hold the dumbest, least defensible, low-common-denominator positions on every topic, whether subjective or objective, of damn near anyone to ever post on the boards.

You're easily one of the least insightful, most void of critical thought, and least thought provoking personas in the history of okayplayer.com.

Few who have ever graced these boards are less worth the time, energy or brain power to engage in any serious discussion that would involve even a modicum of critical thought than you.

There are people whose names literally cannot be written without censorship that are better for conversation than you.

There is nobody in the history of OKP who presented a standard of output that is so at odds with their chosen screen name than you.

D is also for Dumb, dipshit. Deal with it, dolt, for that is your destiny.

Smooches😗😘😘😘

  

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151. "damn, dude"
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I mean, I don't agree with him on this either, but that was a little harsh yo

  

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153. "Harsh...and all facts. "
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>I mean, I don't agree with him on this either, but that was a
>little harsh yo

Not at all. His stupidity goes back years, and we've had many, many exchanges where he swings his lil simpleton swag flag a little too hard.

He's simple idiot at every turn, not just this one.

  

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154. "you're the worst poster on the boards and everyone knows it"
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literally everybody

I do like that you care more than me though. About this mediocre superhero movie, or wrestling, or the boards in general. The things that genuinely anger you would've genuinely angered me when I was nine years old.

  

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157. "You want that to be true, you really do 😆😆😂😂🤣🤣"
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>literally everybody

*pats you on the head*

See, it's because you do things like this, and argue from a position of ad populum😉, that I say the things I do to you. You're not even capable of insulting me without employing logical fallacies😆😆😆😆.

Trust: that's amusing, not infuriating.

You're consistently devoid of logic and reason at every turn, on every subject, at all times.

>I do like that you care more than me though. About this
>mediocre superhero movie, or wrestling, or the boards in
>general.

Your use of "care" in that sentence really means "are thoroughly and consistently better at analyzing and discussing".

Saying you don't "care" as much is just another example of you being really bad at forming and articulating critical thoughts. You speak from a standpoint of ignorance, not substance😀

>The things that genuinely anger you >would've
>genuinely angered me when I was nine years old.

Yes, you really rile me up. You're always the angry one in these exchanges, consistently arguing with me through ad hominem and other fallacies, while I've always been really good at sticking to the subject.

Time and again you've avoided the subject at hand in favor of really poor insults, because you're bad at discussing things. I've pointed this out in real time, champ, many times over😗😙😚

Seriously, every position you ever take on aything, ever, is a fallacious argument. You're a textbook case on how not to discuss or argue anything.

You see a movie with lots of loud explosions, and that's all you see, because you're incapable of percieving things beyond that base simplicity. Because that's your level. It's sad, really.

Smooches.

  

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158. "U typed all that shit on your phone. Man that’s sad. 💩"
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159. "....and true, more importantly. And you seem the type to love poop emoji..."
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I guarantee you have some form of poop emoji merchandise, right next to that bag of fallacies you pull out in every discussion.

  

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165. "Marvel/Disney has a hell of a formula"
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MCU movies are events, and the real satisfaction is seeing them lead into the next one. so there's this endless loop that has never been achieved in cinematic history.

but to feed that machine, a lot of the films just end up being 2-hour trailers for the next big thing. I'd say Black Panther, Winter Soldier and the first Guardians of the Galaxy are the only movies that have held any weight since The Avengers.

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167. "FACTS"
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>
>but to feed that machine, a lot of the films just end up being
>2-hour trailers for the next big thing. I'd say Black Panther,
>Winter Soldier and the first Guardians of the Galaxy are the
>only movies that have held any weight since The Avengers.

  

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135. "i can't believe they brought back the eyeball"
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Redskull being the guide to bring him closer to genocide

Thanos looking at the sunset over Wakanda like Killmonger

  

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168. "I hated that retcon...."
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just let Thor have one eye like Odin.
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137. "Agents of SHIELD addressed the Thanos situation (SWIPE)"
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http://ew.com/tv/2018/05/04/agents-of-shield-infinity-war/


Will Agents of SHIELD end with Infinity War shocker?

NATALIE ABRAMS May 04, 2018 at 10:00 PM EDT

Warning: This story contains major spoilers from Friday’s episode of Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. as well as Avengers: Infinity War. Read at your own risk. Seriously. Spoilers are coming.

Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. dropped yet another mention of the events of Avengers: Infinity War, possibly teasing that the fates of half of the film’s heroes could befall our beloved S.H.I.E.L.D. agents as well.

During Friday’s episode, the newly powered Graviton (Adrian Pasdar) demanded an audience with The Confederacy, a cabal of alien factions that had been protecting Earth from an incoming evil. However, they’ve actually just been extorting Earth’s resources ahead of an impending attack by Thanos and his forces, which a Kree leader notes is currently taking place.

This is the second mention of the events of Infinity War in as many weeks. S.H.I.E.L.D. ally Tony Caine made a passing reference to Daisy last week about the weird events happening in New York, which was clearly a nod to — Infinity War spoiler warning — Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr) and Spider-Man’s (Tom Holland) battle against the Black Order at the top of the film.

Though Infinity War‘s timeline is a little murky, some have speculated that it takes place over roughly 24 hours. Since the fight in New York took place in daylight, and Caine’s mention came at night, there should still be a good chunk of time before Thanos’ forces arrive — in daylight — in Wakanda.

Here’s what this means: More Infinity War mentions could be in store on S.H.I.E.L.D. as the season potentially culminates with a direct tie to the jaw-dropping film ending, in which half of the universe’s population disappears with a snap of Thanos’ Infinity gauntlet-wearing fingers.

For the record, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. has not yet been renewed for season 6, which presents an interesting conundrum. Should the season-ender serve as a series finale — which the executive producers previously said it could — having half the team potentially disappear in a cloud of dust would be a pretty heartbreaking way to end the series, particularly because it would mean no closure for certain fan-favorites. But if the show is renewed, and the show does close the season with a direct connection to Infinity War, it would mean sidelining some of the cast during season 6 before the inevitable resurrection of most, if not all, of the missing heroes in next May’s Avengers follow-up.

In the meantime, Graviton believes he can save the Earth by cultivating the gravitonium beneath its surface, a plan he got from a Kree whose surname is Kasius, a.k.a the father of the ruthless Kree dictator who enslaves humanity in the future. He ends the hour in possession of Daisy, whom Kasius had dubbed The Destroyer of Worlds in the future. Also, Graviton’s plan sounds a lot like what probably ends up causing the destruction of the Earth, so, you know, the future isn’t looking too bright.

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138. "RE: Agents of SHIELD addressed the Thanos situation (SWIPE)"
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If the Agents characters start fading to dust that could mean they’d be gone until a possible season 7, if they last that long. They stay on the brink of cancellation.

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141. "I completely forget about that show."
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Shout out to Runaways and Punisher tho.

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156. "too bad"
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its really good.

>Shout out to Runaways and Punisher tho.

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143. "Infinity War puts every Marvel show in an awkward position"
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Mind you, I couldn't care less about Agents of Shield, and stopped watching after all of three episodes in season 1.

BUT. Despite the movie being out for a couple of weeks now, I highly doubt they'd go so many lengths to preserve the many twists in the movie, only to have a struggling TV show completely spoil everything in the season finale.

At the same time, how can they NOT mention it?

And it's not a case where they can just get away with making vague references to it.

The same goes for all of the Netflix Marvel shows. Those shows almost all made references to "The Incident" from back in the first Avengers movie, treating it kind of like 9/11. If they are all connected to the MCU, how are they just going to skirt around the fact that half the population of the world is suddenly gone? You can't really make casual reference to something on that scale. Plus, realistically, at least some of the characters on that show would've been amongst the dead.

This is probably why no one involved wanted the shows to closely connect to the movies and vice versa. A whole season of Luke Cage trying to save the neighborhood from evil Alfre Woodard doesn't really make sense when half the population dies and every remaining superhero is trying to save the universe.

  

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169. "Not necessarily, there's the time stone"
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Essentially they can go back in time after defeating Thanos and reverse this without anyone having any knowledge of it.

  

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145. "So James Gunn leaked Groot's final words"
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He was looking at rocket, and according to JG, his last words were "Dad.".

Yep, what an empty spectacle this was, so devoid of profundity, what with nothing to take away from it but loud explosions.

  

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155. "look how pressed you are. This reply isn't even in response to me"
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>Yep, what an empty spectacle this was, so devoid of
>profundity, what with nothing to take away from it but loud
>explosions.
>

yet I influenced your post.

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201. "LMAO wait... I'm pressed because I referrenced something you said..."
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...because the thing you said doesn't hold up in the slightest to minimal scrutiny?

Gotcha

Look, you're habitually dumb.

Your take on things is chronically stupid, thoroughly void of thoughtful perspective or sound logic at absolutely every turn.

At every turn, on every subject, without fail, you present the most basic-bob, low common denominator, logically inept view possible for a person without an appointed legal guardian.

It kind of stands out. Sorry

Of course, you never ever, ever ever, respond to criticism of your posts with any substance. It's always some form of tu quoque or ad hominem or some other fallacious nonsense, as you'll no doubt employ in your response to this.

Maybe don't be clockwork-consistency dumb on every subject, in every room, at all times, and perhaps I won't notice? I dunno. But it ain't my fault (C)STS that you're really, really bad at articulating quality thought on things.

  

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146. "So... If all of the TV shows are connected..."
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SPOILERS
















Wouldn't that mean that people would be disappearing on each and every one of the shows?

This includes Agents of SHIELD, all of the Netflix shows, Runaways, Cloak & Dagger, etc.

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147. "Obviously"
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Likely going to happen in finales and finale post-credit scenes

  

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148. "just have the storyline take place before IW"
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Even if it's one week before the events of IW take place

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150. "right."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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161. "Yep. No big deal - Avengers 4 is out next year. Any TV show"
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that is out between now and then just needs to be set before IW, and if it come's out after May 2019 it can be set after Avengers 4. No need to even address it, besides a clue to the general timeline. I could see maybe one or two of the shows having some characters turn to dust at the very end of their season. Maybe Daredevil season 3.

  

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152. "yes and no"
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it obviously happens since it's the same world. the TV shows are not always in the same timeline though. so it wouldn't necessarily have to happen on-screen. considering how tight lipped they were with even actors that appeared in IW, I would assume that most of the shows didn't know anything about what actually happens in the movie. also it depends how they resolve the whole situation as well. if for instance they somehow reverse time, would the general public even know what happened? I would assume that the shows that are already done like Luke Cage won't touch this at all right now. curious how it gets handled moving forward.

  

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162. "I gave up on the tv shows "
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too much to keep up with. The movies are hard enough and the shows aren't as good imo. Only Marvel show I watch now is Legion which isn't connected.

  

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163. "n/m"
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149. "The soul stone scene was so dope in IMAX 3D"
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I'm an unabashed film snob and I loved that shit. A fucking DISNEY movie doing something as dark as that opening scene is fascinating, even if this flick is guaranteed to print money.

They finally got Thor right. Him showing up in Wakanda and going HAM got the most cheers in the theater

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164. "With Carrie Coon in the cast"
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it just dawned on me how the ending for this flick somewhat tied into The Leftovers. I wonder if that's a joke on the blooper reels somewhere.

I wonder how much of her own stunts/fighting screens she actually did.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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166. "PALES compared to Black Panther"
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And a total shit ending. Everyone in the theater was like ???

  

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170. "So..nobody in the theater knew that there is a sequel coming? "
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178. "You can lead into sequels..."
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...without endings that don't really make sense to most people (at least before a lot of discussion). That is shitty storytelling.

They even flipped the name of the next movie, so it's not even part II really, implying this should stand on its own.

  

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179. "huh? the next movie doesn't have a name yet."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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181. "There wasn't anything about the ending that didn't make sense though..."
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People weren't sitting in the theater confused about the ending, they were more in shock with what they'd just seen.

Also at this point with the MCU no one should have been expecting it to end with a neat little bow.

  

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184. "Doesn't mean we should ignore the basics of storytelling..."
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185. "i guess i'm just confused"
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because it totally followed the rules

this was totally the end of Act 2

  

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186. "which would be..."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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171. "How many times have you all seen this?"
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I am at 2, at the most I usually see movies I really like only twice.

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172. "Once...hoping to see it again this weekend"
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174. "I can't see it again until I can go with my wife"
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so that will be #2
www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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176. "Only movie I've seen three times in theaters was mad max "
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Fury Road is still the hardest action movie of the decade. I'll go see infinity war a second time this weekend

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173. "after a lil over 2 weeks...this shit is already #5 all time worldwide."
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175. "It is killing it overseas. Over 700 million???"
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177. "All these infinity war memes are killing me "
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187. "literally the only reason i go on IG anymore"
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sorry, the only reason *other* than teh booty.

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188. "Im starting to think infinity war wont pass black panther "
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I overestimated the movie off the hype.
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189. "It's going to crack $2B though"
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190. "bluray rip drip drip"
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191. "*Web Rip"
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Not quite the same.

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192. "only a matter of time"
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>Not quite the same.

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197. "Put it on yesterday, expecting to just have it as background"
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Found myself pulled back in all over again.

What an awesome movie this was.

I'll prolly watch it again this weekend with the kid.





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193. "finally rewatched"
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i enjoyed it in the theater months back, but after 2nd viewing i gotta REALLY hand it to the team behind this. they pulled this off in a big way and that just makes me so happy. i mean damn, i never would have thought they could pull off a story as far out there as the infinity gauntlet.

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194. "the casting"
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also i wanted to say after watching this again that every character is cast to fucking perfection. man do they deserve props for that. i mean this has got to be the best collection of good to great actors ever. its hard for me to imagine other actors playing these characters especially the mains like iron man, thor, cap, loki, strange, etc.

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195. "the director's commentary was dope."
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they had a lot to do in this movie, and they really fuckin pulled it off.

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196. "Director's Roundtable"
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make sure to check out the director's roundtable extra on the bluray. its about 35 mins of all the marvel directors talking about the movies and the process of making them. really interesting stuff to hear.

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198. "finally saw this"
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maybe Marvel's best villain ever. great movie. not as fun as the first avengers, but probably a better film than the first two.

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200. "Haven't seen it yet, but this sold me."
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>not as fun as
>the first avengers,

I avoid the 'fun' Marvel movies.

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202. "I'm genuinely surprised at the "not as fun" critique."
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Cause this joint, despite the dour tone, has some of the best quips of the entire MCU.

From a strictly "bars" standpoint, IW is consistent throughout, and I find myself consistently smiling.

Little things, like the way Thor references Rocket and Groot, the Iron Man interactions with Star Lord and Doctor Strange- arguably Stark-like in their own right, in certain ways, every scene with Drax...

I will say that the impossibly high stakes strike a dour tone that certainly present a harder, darker edge than any other MCU film. But I'd say the fun factor is there in droves, it's just balanced with a weightier layer than usual.

  

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199. "this shit was a masterpiece, ppl"
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no nike air hyperboles.
i let enuf time pass b/w seeing it at imax and waiting for the blu ray to drop to see it only for the 2nd time, and it's nigh flawless.
crazy to think A4 is sposed to be even more 'out there' (and possibly 3hrs long).

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