>>due to how obvious it is the deaths won't be permanent.
>
>If your movie ends with a large twist and dwells on the
>emotional responses of both those dying and those responding
>to the deaths, if the obvious lack of permanence diminishes
>the emotional impact of these beats-- as it did for me-- then
>the complaint has a basis in legitimate reasoning. Whether or
>not you agree with that reasoning, or whether the moment
>worked for you personally, is up for debate, of course-- but
>it's not like the complaint is pulled out of an ass or is
>arbitrary in its presentation. There's logic behind it, and
>you're seeing several others above agree with it.
>

You're proving his point.

Thanos' goal was stated early on, not to mention big losses foreshadowed in an earlier Avengers movie. Thanos getting there in part 1 isn't a big twist.

The emotional impact being reduced for the audience members who don't understand the rules and implications of the gauntlet doesn't legitimise it as a criticism of the movie. You don't like it, lots of people won't, that doesn't make it legitimate.


>>it's
>>already self-evident that these characters are too popular,
>>with their own franchises, not to mention some of em still
>>fresh to the MCU, plus a million other reasons, that they
>>would definitely not be *permanently* killed.
>
>I mean, one could also easily argue that the lack of
>permanence removes stakes from the equation. It'll be
>interesting to see how they deal with that issue going
>forward-- hopefully the permanent deaths of a few characters
>in this and/or the next film would help create at least the
>illusion of permanence so those stakes aren't diminished with
>time. We all know that franchise leads have to stick around,
>but shit, at least make us worry about their friends and loved
>ones.

Not just anyone can wield the gauntlet. It took all the guardians to wield one stone, including Peter who was half god then. Obviously some people are coming back but there's no basis for saying everyone will, yet.

The stakes are raised because those heroes are off the board right now. They can't just dip back in and help. The original Avengers are in more of a jam than they were before, stakes raised. Just because they're not raised to your liking again doesn't make your point legitimate.