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"Poll question: Better album run: 70's Stevie or 80's Prince??"


  

          

Believe it or not...I'm going with Stevie..

Poll result (56 votes)
Stevie (41 votes)Vote
Prince (15 votes)Vote

  

  

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70's Stevie is pretty much second to none
Sep 25th 2015
1
Even his side projects are great
Sep 25th 2015
2
      Man, I pray to God that the right person....
Sep 25th 2015
6
           He would get a lot of folks $$$
Sep 25th 2015
7
Prince Gets My Vote
Sep 25th 2015
3
The problem with your statement is that...
Sep 25th 2015
5
      Either Decade I Still Go With Prince
Sep 26th 2015
8
           Filler? From STEVIE in the 70's? Where u get that crackroc, fam?
Sep 26th 2015
9
           Smh at Stevie having filler material in the 70s
Sep 27th 2015
12
                i wouldn't call it filler...
Sep 27th 2015
14
tough one.
Sep 25th 2015
4
Stevie ALL day every day.
Sep 26th 2015
10
Sign of the Times
Sep 27th 2015
13
      These songs are Duds to u ??
Sep 27th 2015
15
      yes.
Sep 27th 2015
16
      Is not a perfect album
Sep 27th 2015
17
      Flaws and all:
Sep 28th 2015
18
           I fucks with Ronnie Talk To Russia
Oct 16th 2015
104
Stevie Wonder wins by a landslide
Sep 27th 2015
11
RE: Stevie Wonder wins by a landslide
Oct 09th 2015
26
      RE: Stevie Wonder wins by a landslide
Oct 10th 2015
38
           RE: Stevie Wonder wins by a landslide
Oct 10th 2015
41
                RE: Stevie Wonder wins by a landslide
Oct 10th 2015
42
                     RE: Stevie Wonder wins by a landslide
Oct 10th 2015
43
                          RE: Stevie Wonder wins by a landslide
Oct 11th 2015
44
                          And you showed how closed minded you are with this reply.
Oct 11th 2015
45
                               RE: And you showed how closed minded you are with this reply.
Oct 12th 2015
57
                                    RE: And you showed how closed minded you are with this reply.
Oct 12th 2015
60
                                         Prince is so overrated it hurts
Oct 12th 2015
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                                         RE: And you showed how closed minded you are with this reply.
Oct 13th 2015
70
                                              Prince is OVERRATED
Oct 13th 2015
71
                                              RE: And you showed how closed minded you are with this reply.
Oct 13th 2015
72
                                                   they want to make Prince come off untouchable
Oct 13th 2015
74
                                                        RE: they want to make Prince come off untouchable
Oct 14th 2015
82
                                                             RE: they want to make Prince come off untouchable
Oct 14th 2015
85
                                                             RE: they want to make Prince come off untouchable
Oct 15th 2015
89
                                                             oh there is some purple Illuminati dranky drink juice at work
Oct 14th 2015
87
Stevie.
Sep 28th 2015
19
are you kidding me? Stevie Mops the Purple Slurp all day and night
Sep 29th 2015
20
RE: are you kidding me? Stevie Mops the Purple Slurp all day and night
Sep 29th 2015
21
^^ agree with all of this
Oct 01st 2015
23
      Prince can't steer Stevie's car and Stevie don't even drive
Oct 12th 2015
53
           Yoooooooooo lmao
Oct 16th 2015
92
Prince is a deity and it's still Stevie by a landslide.
Sep 30th 2015
22
please...stevie don't have an adore or FIML in the arsenal
Oct 08th 2015
24
And Prince doesn't have a "Superwoman" or "Living For The City"
Oct 08th 2015
25
"List goes on" <----- who gon win this, REALLY?
Oct 09th 2015
27
      i agree.
Oct 09th 2015
28
      I'm less concerned with quantity here than percentage
Oct 09th 2015
37
Prince doesn't have a 'You and I' in his arsenal; Prince doesn't have a
Oct 09th 2015
30
      Stevie doesn't have an 'Erotic City' or 'When Doves Cry'
Oct 09th 2015
33
      LOL real shit
Oct 09th 2015
36
      RE: Prince doesn't have a 'You and I' in his arsenal; Prince doesn't hav...
Oct 10th 2015
40
      adore better than that shit and these dudes know it.
Oct 11th 2015
46
           Adore is amazing...but I ain't playing it at a cookout.
Oct 11th 2015
49
                who cares? it's better.
Oct 11th 2015
51
                hmmm...
Oct 27th 2015
254
      How I see it.
Oct 16th 2015
99
LOL. Stevie. Prince stans, don't embarass him by trying to argue this.
Oct 09th 2015
29
RE: LOL. Stevie. Prince stans, don't embarass him by trying to argue t...
Oct 09th 2015
34
they're tied @ #1 in my book.
Oct 09th 2015
35
      RE: they're tied @ #1 in my book.
Oct 10th 2015
39
           in fact, i said stevie shit is "STUCK THERE" in terms of "blackness"
Oct 11th 2015
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           I don't think Stevie would have gotten the 'rockist' support he does
Oct 16th 2015
103
                as if Rick James didn't cover all that ground and then some?
Oct 17th 2015
110
           good post murph
Oct 11th 2015
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           RE: good post murph
Oct 12th 2015
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           this is a good point
Oct 29th 2015
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i can go all day, 'cause on the low stevie corny shit WAY worse than Ps
Oct 11th 2015
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      'Jughead'. 'Graffiti Bridge'. 'My Name Is Prince'. Countless others.
Oct 16th 2015
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           ...
Oct 16th 2015
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                cats don't know where Stevie went
Oct 17th 2015
113
                that album was made for a film.
Oct 22nd 2015
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                     RE: that album was made for a film.
Oct 23rd 2015
119
                          however that album was dissed by critics and sorta got avoided
Oct 23rd 2015
121
My head chooses Stevie's output, but I listen to Prince's waaaay more.
Oct 09th 2015
31
Stevie's 70's run gets more burn at the family reunion/cookout.
Oct 09th 2015
32
Stevei
Oct 11th 2015
52
the breakdown and here it goes
Oct 12th 2015
54
all Prince slow songs sound the same
Oct 12th 2015
55
please...stevie ain't had a hit in forever...or hit tour
Oct 12th 2015
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RE: please...stevie ain't had a hit in forever...or hit tour
Oct 12th 2015
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ain't no bigge packing a 15 thou to 20 thou place
Oct 12th 2015
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Has Stevie Wonder even tried to have hits like Prince has in recent year...
Oct 12th 2015
67
      Songs in the Key of Life tour goes hard,meanwhile Prince
Oct 13th 2015
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      RE: Has Stevie Wonder even tried to have hits like Prince has in recent ...
Oct 13th 2015
69
           because Prince gets way overrated
Oct 13th 2015
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           mick jack got a lifetime pass, dogg...for WACK shit
Oct 15th 2015
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                MJ was a fine songwriter.
Oct 15th 2015
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                should be used to it by now, because he wasn't.
Oct 16th 2015
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                     neither MJ or Prince are what I call great songwriters IMO
Oct 16th 2015
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                     billie jean.
Oct 16th 2015
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                          you could have stopped at the subject line
Oct 16th 2015
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                               because the lack of respect for MJ is strong
Oct 17th 2015
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                MJ got classics acting like he was lester and everybody else
Oct 15th 2015
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                mike fell off because he got old and couldn't move no more.
Oct 16th 2015
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                     no, it wasn't.
Oct 16th 2015
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                     prince fell off Because Teddy RIley made him look like a grandpa
Oct 16th 2015
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                Thriller is not a 'synth' album.
Oct 16th 2015
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           RE: Has Stevie Wonder even tried to have hits like Prince has in recent ...
Oct 13th 2015
75
                *yawns*
Oct 13th 2015
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                     why won't he though? because that mess would be weak
Oct 14th 2015
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                     *yawns*
Oct 14th 2015
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                     RE: *yawns*
Oct 14th 2015
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                          yup. you got it, chief.
Oct 14th 2015
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                               "I'm gona type anything...
Oct 14th 2015
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                                    that's what i do.
Oct 14th 2015
86
Stevie had more decades of hits and way more impact than Prince
Oct 12th 2015
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      LMFAO
Oct 14th 2015
81
Maxxx in here droppin' bombs, lol.
Oct 13th 2015
76
Stevie wrote way better memorable classics for other acts
Oct 12th 2015
56
but i do love Prince's first three albums
Oct 12th 2015
58
Stevie did. But Prince is my favorite.
Oct 12th 2015
63
looking back..was the freaky sex dude a gimmick???
Oct 16th 2015
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Stevie had gimmicks.
Oct 16th 2015
107
None generated by Stevie
Oct 16th 2015
108
      i dunno that Stevie wouldve hit as big without gimmickry and promotion.
Oct 16th 2015
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           all big acts have had a gimmicky IMO
Oct 17th 2015
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Prince ain't nothing but one big ole gimmick and yeah
Oct 17th 2015
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well, yeah.
Oct 22nd 2015
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      RE: well, yeah.
Oct 23rd 2015
120
      ha ha ha Prince ain't in the same universe as no Holland,dozier and Holl...
Oct 23rd 2015
122
      None of that works without the "gimmick"
Oct 23rd 2015
123
           thats why Prince done fell off one of the reasons
Oct 24th 2015
125
A sensitive fan couldn't handle Prince losing in a poll so
Oct 20th 2015
115
it was B2k time in here for Prince, and his fans they got served
Oct 20th 2015
116
Stevie by a zillion miles...
Oct 23rd 2015
124
right on Man
Oct 24th 2015
126
disney not an extreme, which is why no one will say Bad is trash
Oct 24th 2015
127
      I said it..back then and now
Oct 24th 2015
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      dude has repeated P fell off after 88 so much, MJ shit get a pass
Oct 24th 2015
129
      had enough of this garbage MJ's dangerous>>>>>>>all Prince
Oct 25th 2015
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           No Q, no nothing...just a crazy man-child.
Oct 25th 2015
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                yeah Quincy was killing it post MJ
Oct 25th 2015
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      MJ and Q made History turkeys
Oct 25th 2015
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           OTW and Thriller yes but MJ was scared of Princes talent
Oct 25th 2015
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                that's all there is to it.
Oct 25th 2015
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                Prince had a run, MJ had a career big difference
Oct 25th 2015
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                i want your drug dealers name.Prince ain't do what Miles did
Oct 25th 2015
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                Prince changed music. And later, the industry. sorry, its true
Oct 25th 2015
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                     he had a sound that was happening yes, however he didn't change
Oct 25th 2015
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                Miles Davis classic albums in the 50's,60's and 70's
Oct 25th 2015
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                     Prince was/is equal to Miles/changed the music sphere like Miles did
Oct 25th 2015
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                          on the real, you are a smart dude,but you i need your drug dealer
Oct 25th 2015
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      Bad better than anything that Prince put out after 87
Oct 25th 2015
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           your man made trash without Q. get over it.
Oct 25th 2015
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           yeah nobody cared about destiny or triumph
Oct 25th 2015
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                gotta give it to Triumph..that was as good as Thriller imo
Oct 25th 2015
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           nah..Lovesexy better and Diamond and Pearls = Bad
Oct 25th 2015
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                Lovesexy was overproduced and under writen
Oct 25th 2015
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                Nah...
Oct 25th 2015
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                     RE: Nah...
Oct 25th 2015
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                     SLow down man, you not even reading whole posts
Oct 25th 2015
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                     Batman is about 2.5 songs of interest at best
Oct 25th 2015
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                     like i said after 87 Prince was toast
Oct 25th 2015
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                          nahThe Gold Experience better than Bad and Dangerous
Oct 25th 2015
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                               nobody outside of Purple world cares about no overproduced
Oct 25th 2015
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                                    this is getting weird
Oct 25th 2015
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                                         Prince is OVERRATED and he didn't make a legit album
Oct 25th 2015
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                                              as long as he keeps ranking ahead of MJ in PEER-based polls
Oct 25th 2015
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                                                   he ranks ahead in fake polls
Oct 25th 2015
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                                                        he ranks ahead in ALL polls...you mad his superbowl show was better
Oct 26th 2015
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                                                             only in purple polls,MJ was a stronger music pressence
Oct 26th 2015
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                                                                  no one with a platform at a major media outlets think MJs was better
Oct 26th 2015
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                                                                       i know many media folks who got MJ in a Blowout over Prince
Oct 26th 2015
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                                                                            all the MJ fans crying that their lip-syncing hero is 10th
Oct 26th 2015
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                                                                                 this is what is a trip about Prince fans
Oct 26th 2015
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                                                                                 no, MJ wanted what he had...peace of mind and artisic credibility
Oct 26th 2015
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                                                                                 MJ had that and more,Prince wanted what MJ had as well
Oct 26th 2015
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                                                                                 too bad that's not true...MJ was never satisfied
Oct 26th 2015
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                                                                                 wrong as usual, i was cool with MJ chilling
Oct 26th 2015
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                                                                                 you mad "ben" didn't win an oscar...'cause it's corny trash
Oct 26th 2015
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                                                                                 Ben is a Better song than Purple rain,however Prince
Oct 26th 2015
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                                                                                 my point is mike ain't got no damn oscar and he wanted one
Oct 26th 2015
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                                                                                 no denying he wanted one. however if a tired over the top song
Oct 26th 2015
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                                                                                 cool...so industry awards don't matter...thanks.
Oct 26th 2015
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                                                                                 they are to feed the ego and fatten the labels
Oct 27th 2015
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                     nigga, the title track is trash...WTF?
Oct 25th 2015
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                          they like Bad are very simplistic
Oct 25th 2015
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                          But you the one resorting to name-calling LOL... riiiiight.
Oct 25th 2015
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                          well am I right or am I right? 'turkey'...lol
Oct 25th 2015
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                          LMAO touche
Oct 25th 2015
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                          these Purple turkeys are roasting on the stove top
Oct 25th 2015
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                          cats don't wanna be honest about Prince
Oct 25th 2015
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                               and stevie shoulda been able to make a statement after Happy Birthday
Oct 26th 2015
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                                    Do I Do and that girl them two songs alone>>>>>>>>>>>Prince
Oct 26th 2015
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                                         LOL!!!
Oct 26th 2015
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                          Wipe the foam from your mouth and calm your raging ass down lol
Oct 25th 2015
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                          slow down...lovesexy is my favorite P album. period.
Oct 25th 2015
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                               however Prince post 87 stuff is garbage
Oct 25th 2015
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                          alphabet street was garbage a hot mess
Oct 25th 2015
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                               everybody can't have A+ rapper like LTB on they tracks, my nigga
Oct 25th 2015
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                                    Rick James on Lucy's rap with ROxanne Shante>>>>>>Prince
Oct 25th 2015
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yes but Stevie assembled those albums from a catalog of songs.
Oct 26th 2015
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since the 90s...
Oct 26th 2015
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since the 90's that turkey done bed hopped labels
Oct 26th 2015
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some people bed hop labels, others bed hop producers
Oct 26th 2015
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      you think "triumph" is wack?
Oct 26th 2015
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      YES!!! it's WACK!
Oct 26th 2015
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           the Jacksons>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the time albums
Oct 26th 2015
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                no one believes this. people party to jungle love, not that wack shit
Oct 26th 2015
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                     Heartbreak Hotel alone whips that mess
Oct 26th 2015
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      Prince done went to pillow to post
Oct 26th 2015
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           it's 2015...labels don't matter. he sell out shows.
Oct 26th 2015
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                that jive turkey put two albums out on warners last year
Oct 26th 2015
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                     and he got paid, too.
Oct 26th 2015
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                          yeah to go away
Oct 26th 2015
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                               lol!
Oct 27th 2015
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you still claim MJ was not a songwriter.
Oct 26th 2015
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stop CRYING...i'm doing EXACTLY what maxxx does. MJ was overrated
Oct 26th 2015
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      that's what i said.
Oct 26th 2015
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      just let the 2 trolls yell at each other.
Oct 26th 2015
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           word.
Oct 26th 2015
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           cool...it's better than letting maxxx go plat prince-bashing yet again
Oct 26th 2015
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           Prince is Overrated and what has he done since 87 again?
Oct 26th 2015
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                multiple #1 albums, #1 songs, awards, sellout tours...
Oct 26th 2015
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                     and Prince still way behind Stevie and MJ
Oct 26th 2015
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                          not in this decade, he ain't...you mad?
Oct 26th 2015
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                               i ask again what was the last Prince song that anybody cared about?
Oct 26th 2015
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                                    soon as you answer what's the last stevie or MJ song people cared about
Oct 26th 2015
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                                         easy on both
Oct 27th 2015
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                                              cool...lets me know facts don't matter. batdance in 89 cream in 91
Oct 27th 2015
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                                              na that take that purple needle out of your arm
Oct 27th 2015
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                                              wrong
Oct 29th 2015
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                                                   did the homework and was in the clubs back then
Oct 29th 2015
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           nobody trolls more than Prince fans
Oct 26th 2015
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                if by trolling, you mean talking about him, then fine
Oct 26th 2015
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                     ya''ll entitle to talk about him,however you cats are pissed
Oct 26th 2015
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                          nobody care about this poll...you been asking to be trolled back on
Oct 26th 2015
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                               Prince piggyback riding at RIck James's concerts
Oct 26th 2015
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                                    if prince had quincy, he'd have wrote shit like we are the world
Oct 26th 2015
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                                    yeah as if Graffti Bridge and arms of orion were that much deeper
Oct 27th 2015
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                                         don't be mad invincible was anything but
Oct 27th 2015
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                                              same goes for the Rainbow Children
Oct 27th 2015
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                                    he did that to sreal Ricks thunder with just an appearance
Oct 27th 2015
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                                         Rick tore his behind up
Oct 27th 2015
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                                              Prince stole Ricks thunder..AND his girl
Oct 29th 2015
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                                                   he stole from Rick, however Rick was his own doing in
Oct 29th 2015
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                                                        my facts are perfect
Oct 30th 2015
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                                                             your facts are wrong
Oct 30th 2015
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      Prince was trying to ROn Jeremy his thing via Billy Graham
Oct 26th 2015
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           uh huh...we know what MJ was doing
Oct 26th 2015
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RE: since the 90s...
Oct 26th 2015
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dogg, it's not maxxx fault...i'm blown at dudes indulging a DISCUSSION
Oct 26th 2015
192
Prince been on that Bum on the corner with a cardboard
Oct 26th 2015
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      no one denies he peaked in 87...just like MJ peaked in 83. you mad?
Oct 26th 2015
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           except one major thing MJ had almost 15 years
Oct 26th 2015
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                MJ *peaked* in 1983, dude.
Oct 26th 2015
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                     mj was selling out shows until his death
Oct 26th 2015
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                          no he wasn't...cause he died.
Oct 26th 2015
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                               a MJ Hologram tour would out sell a Live prince show now
Oct 27th 2015
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                                    yeah...cause he died.
Oct 27th 2015
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                                         i know one thing, folks were linned up to see MJ
Oct 27th 2015
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you want Prince facts here goes
Oct 26th 2015
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      your man was beggin timberlake to help at the end
Oct 26th 2015
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      funny thing MJ turned down all those tracks that made timerlake
Oct 27th 2015
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           MJ was inducted by N'Sync...no way around it
Oct 27th 2015
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      maax are you saying MJ has no moments of wackness? just as much?
Oct 27th 2015
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           MJ wack moments to me were
Oct 27th 2015
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Stevie has also had 3 albums since the 90s.
Oct 28th 2015
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      RE: Stevie has also had 3 albums since the 90s.
Oct 28th 2015
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           RE: Stevie has also had 3 albums since the 90s.
Oct 28th 2015
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           is it me? you notice that difference? all the legends can make TRASH
Oct 28th 2015
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                RE: is it me? you notice that difference? all the legends can make TRASH
Oct 28th 2015
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                exactly...and people critique him for BOTH
Oct 28th 2015
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                RE: exactly...and people critique him for BOTH
Oct 28th 2015
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                RE: exactly...and people critique him for BOTH
Oct 28th 2015
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                     RE: exactly...and people critique him for BOTH
Oct 28th 2015
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                          RE: exactly...and people critique him for BOTH
Oct 28th 2015
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                               RE: exactly...and people critique him for BOTH
Oct 28th 2015
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                                    RE: exactly...and people critique him for BOTH
Oct 28th 2015
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                                         RE: exactly...and people critique him for BOTH
Oct 29th 2015
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                Prince been jocking cats for years Emancipation was him jacking
Oct 28th 2015
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                RE: is it me? you notice that difference? all the legends can make TRASH
Oct 28th 2015
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                     RE: is it me? you notice that difference? all the legends can make TRASH
Oct 28th 2015
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                     RE: is it me? you notice that difference? all the legends can make TRASH
Oct 28th 2015
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                     RE: is it me? you notice that difference? all the legends can make TRASH
Oct 28th 2015
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                          RE: is it me? you notice that difference? all the legends can make TRASH
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                               RE: is it me? you notice that difference? all the legends can make TRASH
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                                    RE: is it me? you notice that difference? all the legends can make TRASH
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                                         RE: is it me? you notice that difference? all the legends can make TRASH
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                                              RE: is it me? you notice that difference? all the legends can make TRASH
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                                                   RE: is it me? you notice that difference? all the legends can make TRASH
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                                                        RE: is it me? you notice that difference? all the legends can make TRASH
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                                                             RE: is it me? you notice that difference? all the legends can make TRASH
Oct 29th 2015
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                     if i cared about what you said, i'd have responded a grip ago.
Oct 28th 2015
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                          RE: if i cared about what you said, i'd have responded a grip ago.
Oct 29th 2015
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                Ok, I see what this is.
Oct 29th 2015
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                     RE: Ok, I see what this is.
Oct 29th 2015
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                     Stevie had great songs in the 60's,70's and 80's
Oct 29th 2015
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                     prince fans don't excuse his bad stuff...stop it, Doc.
Oct 29th 2015
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                     ain't nobody checking for Prince after 87
Oct 29th 2015
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                     Doc who you calling a troll? i guess its hard to believe
Oct 29th 2015
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           ^^^
Oct 28th 2015
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           funny thing is that Prince didn't even write the most Beautiful girl in ...
Oct 28th 2015
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                and MJ didn't write ANYTHING, if we gonna keep denying facts
Oct 28th 2015
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                MJ wrote most of his stuff, Prince done been called out
Oct 29th 2015
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                     same thing happened to stevie's
Oct 29th 2015
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                Well you're a half-witted, simple-minded buffoon with piss poor taste in...
Oct 29th 2015
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                you just bed sore because Stevie is serving turkeys up in here
Oct 29th 2015
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                     blah blah blah
Oct 29th 2015
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                          turkey you need to chill
Oct 29th 2015
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                RE: funny thing is that Prince didn't even write the most Beautiful girl...
Oct 29th 2015
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                those two cats from Italy get a piece of the Most beautiful girl in the ...
Oct 29th 2015
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                     RE: those two cats from Italy get a piece of the Most beautiful girl in ...
Oct 29th 2015
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                          RE: those two cats from Italy get a piece of the Most beautiful girl in ...
Oct 29th 2015
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                          this? (link)
Oct 30th 2015
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                          but see: Part-Time Lover &amp; Maneater
Oct 30th 2015
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                               no different than when Prince contacted Journey over Purple rain
Oct 30th 2015
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                                    Exactly. They all do it.
Oct 31st 2015
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                                         except the purple Police tends to give Prince a pass
Nov 01st 2015
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                RE: funny thing is that Prince didn't even write the most Beautiful girl...
Oct 29th 2015
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           Prince put out more garbage over the past 25 years
Oct 28th 2015
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                facts say different
Oct 28th 2015
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                     nobody been blasting Prince and his many Sugar Ray Leonard
Oct 29th 2015
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Why the hell is anyone bringing up Michael Jackson....
Oct 27th 2015
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yes...i'm that desperate. you mad?
Oct 27th 2015
245
Lol, from the way you're grasping at straws in this post....
Oct 27th 2015
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      calling Bad, Dangerous and Invincible trash isn't grasping at straws
Oct 28th 2015
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           more people danced and party to Dangerous than those Prince
Oct 28th 2015
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           more people dance to whoomp there it is, too.
Oct 28th 2015
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                Whoomp there it is has more replay dance value than Prince's 90's
Oct 29th 2015
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           I didn't imply that you calling those albums trash....
Oct 30th 2015
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Stevie WOnder done Served them Purple turkeys up
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      wrong One Direction just broke that record
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                     nobody care about wack dance grooves and standing still at SB either
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                          apparently alot of people did because the Super Bowl came a calling
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                               well if you arent him, just know u post like a well known azzhoe lol
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           that 80s stuff is good.
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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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1. "70's Stevie is pretty much second to none"
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>Believe it or not...I'm going with Stevie..
>

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2. "Even his side projects are great "
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Those Syreeta albums alone!!


(Prays he gets a change of mind and decides to open up his vault)

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6. "Man, I pray to God that the right person...."
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...gets in his ear and convinces him to release his unreleased '70s material. I mean, someone got in his ear and finally convinced him to cut his hair off and that seemed like it was never gonna happen at one point. Surely they can talk him into releasing those vault tracks, lol. Anyway, I'd pay good money for that box set.




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7. "He would get a lot of folks $$$"
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One thing I can say about Prince
Although it was unintentional (so he says), we have heard a lot of what is in those vaults from the 80's.
Aside from those teases from a few years ago, we have no clue what Stevie has locked away.

Both are MAJOR blockheads when it comes to letting that music go.

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3. "Prince Gets My Vote"
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I like Stevie & Prince but to me Prince had albums I liked more even though Stevie has had way more albums cause he's been around since he was a little kid, but I've never cared for Motown's catalog so until he got older is when I started to pay attention to Stevie and after he did the "Woman In Red" album.

Prince has been making banging albums from his first to when he left Warner Brothers after that it's been kind of a rocky road cause certain albums being good some wasn't and then getting ahold of the NPG stuff that wasn't released in stores.


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5. "The problem with your statement is that..."
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...it comes off as you including their entire catalogs. This poll is limted to 70s Stevie and 80s Prince. Mentioning things like 60s and 80s Stevie defeats the purpose.


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8. "Either Decade I Still Go With Prince"
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Prince ruled the 80's even though I love 80's new wave more but I come back to him as the one person who kept together while others were one hit wonders, then you got Stevie, while in the 70's tunes I enjoy jazz & funk groups more than just his whole 70's catalog cause he was putting out a lot but half was filler more than Prince's catalog was but I understand Stevie had a lot to get out, he wasn't holding back, if he wanted to put out a few double albums, so be it but I could easily condense it down to one album.

Both are talented in their own right, I was just never big on Stevie.


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9. "Filler? From STEVIE in the 70's? Where u get that crackroc, fam?"
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lol

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12. "Smh at Stevie having filler material in the 70s"
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Please list the filler material

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14. "i wouldn't call it filler..."
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Because even stevie's weak songs sound inspired.

But some of his experiments fall flat
or seem meandering.

Innervisions and talking book are his only perfect albums.

Music of my mind is not the most focused album in the world.

Prince has more flawless albums than stevie imo.

Dirty Mind, Purple Rain, SOTT, Parade.

1999 would be perfect if not for "fres". But that's still less duds than SITKOL.

  

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4. "tough one."
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it depends on my mood.

right now i'm in a Prince mood.

fuck you.

  

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10. "Stevie ALL day every day."
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Even when I'm in the mood to listen to Prince, Stevie's 70's run MURKS his 80's run.
Prince had MAAAAD filler even in the 80s. Hell most of yall don't like half of ATWIAD.
Stevie with Innervisions, Songs In The Key, Fulfillingness, Talking Book... man please,
this is timeless and fit for any time.
You gotta pull the best songs from Prince's first 5 albums to even have an album on par
with Songs In The Key... cmon son, it ain't even close, and I love Prince.

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13. "Sign of the Times"
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It is prefectly okay to
prefer stevie to prince.

But prince's golden era is
just as miraculous as stevie wonder,
al green, the beatles, the stones, george clinton, earth wind and fire,
fire, and any other legend that ppl bring up in this conversation.

And like all those other legends,
Stevie has some duds in his classic period. (saturn, keep on running, saturn, the album edit of "as," and saturn.)

As we have debated on here countless times, SITKOL is an imperfect masterpiece. Sign of the Times is flawless... A rare feat for a double album.


>You gotta pull the best songs from Prince's first 5 albums to
>even have an album on par
>with Songs In The Key...

  

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15. "These songs are Duds to u ??"
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>And like all those other legends,
>Stevie has some duds in his classic period. (saturn, keep on
>running, saturn, the album edit of "as," and saturn.)
>

what?!?!?


>As we have debated on here countless times, SITKOL is an
>imperfect masterpiece. Sign of the Times is flawless... A rare
>feat for a double album.
>

You call an album with "It" on it flawless? "Slow Love" wasn't really that good either..and Stevie Wonder is on his 3rd leg tour for SITKOL.. decades later it came out. how many times has Prince toured for Sign of the Times?
The impact SITKOL had and still has is on another love than Sign O the times
and the quality too..
Even his biggest fan Prince knows this

  

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16. "yes. "
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Everything i typed, i meant.
Maybe different ppl like ddifferent songs?

I also think characters is a stronger album than hotter than july.

And i like "it."

Other music fans disagree.
Which is fine.

  

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17. "Is not a perfect album"
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Sun Sep-27-15 03:27 PM by Boogie Stimuli

          

>It is prefectly okay to
>prefer stevie to prince.


Never said it wasn't... just said I don't, at all and it ain't close.



>But prince's golden era is
>just as miraculous as stevie wonder,


I completely disagree


>And like all those other legends,
>Stevie has some duds in his classic period. (saturn, keep on
>running, saturn, the album edit of "as," and saturn.)



This is where we disagree, because I love those songs... especially "As"... it's
one the best songs ever, as a matter of fact.




>As we have debated on here countless times, SITKOL is an
>imperfect masterpiece. Sign of the Times is flawless... A rare
>feat for a double album.




Yall can feel that way. I don't. *shrugs*
("It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night" and "Forever In My Life" ain't no stronger than
"Saturn"... and "Keep On Runnin" >>>> "Ronnie Talk to Russia" & "Sister")
Even if it were, we've also discussed here plenty of times how many of yall can't
fuck with all of ATWIAD. I, personally, think Dirty Mind and Controversy sound like
child's play in comparison to all of Stevie's 70's output.



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18. "Flaws and all:"
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Mon Sep-28-15 08:12 AM by SoWhat

  

          

Dirty mind: none.

Signed sealed delivered: (I haven't heard the whole album yet....)

Controversy: sexuality, Ronnie talk to Russia.

Where I'm coming from: I wanna talk to you


1999: Free, Let's Pretend We're Married, Automatic

Music of My Mind: Evil, Seems so long, sweet little girl

Purple Rain: take me with u, computer blue's edit

Talking book: none.

ATWIAD: paisley park, temptation, the ladder.

Innervisions: none.

Parade: none.

Fff: none.

SOTT: none.

Sitkol: have a talk with God, village ghetto land, Saturn, easy Goin evening, long version of isnt she lovely, if it's magic, long version of as.

fuck you.

  

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104. "I fucks with Ronnie Talk To Russia"
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I didn't know people hated on that track lol

It's only 1:58 long, I think if he had made a full 4 minute song out of it maybe it would be lame but, as a short little interlude/ditty I dig it.

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11. "Stevie Wonder wins by a landslide"
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Sun Sep-27-15 07:19 AM by balloon

          

Prince was never in his biggest idol's league in terms of songwriting and singing to begin with..
and a lot of Prince's 80s music hasn't aged too well compared to Stevie's 70s music
the obvious answer here is Stevie Wonder

  

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26. "RE: Stevie Wonder wins by a landslide"
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>Prince was never in his biggest idol's league in terms of
>songwriting and singing to begin with..
>and a lot of Prince's 80s music hasn't aged too well compared
>to Stevie's 70s music
>the obvious answer here is Stevie Wonder


I mean u can roll with Stevie and u wouldn't be wrong....But come on...lol....Prince's was def. in Stevie's league as a songwriter...

You can go back and forth on his "singing" and say that he wasn't as strong vocally as Stevie....But songwriting? Anyone that could go from penning a "Head" to "Little Red Corvette" to a "Manic Monday" and then knock out a "The Ballad Of Dorthy Parker" was def. running with Stevie....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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38. "RE: Stevie Wonder wins by a landslide"
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Sat Oct-10-15 04:25 AM by balloon

          

Prince can't even perform most of his songs without feeling embarrassed today and he dosen't have the songs that touch people on a emotional level like Stevie's material (expect for Purple Rain)
And Prince' Manic Monday can't compete with the songs Stevie Wonder wrote for other artists..
Prince has never come up with something as good as Tell me Something Good or I can't help it for an Mj or Chaka.
Stevie is just on another level man..
as a singer, songwriter and producer.. even Prince would tell you this.. stop playing man.

  

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41. "RE: Stevie Wonder wins by a landslide"
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Sat Oct-10-15 10:59 AM by murph71

          

>Prince can't even perform most of his songs without feeling
>embarrassed today and he dosen't have the songs that touch
>people on a emotional level like Stevie's material (expect for
>Purple Rain)


I mean...just say that's your opinion...And I can respect that. But I've seen your other posts about Prince, homie....Basically what I'm saying is once YOU started agreeing that P's best '80s work cannot even fuck with Stevie's 80's (which while underrated is iniversally viewed as a few notches below his GOAT work from the past decade) it's damn near impossible to take you seriously....U basically showed your hand on some Maxx-lite shit...lol


But lets not generalize.....From "How Come You Don't Call Me Anymore" to "The Beautiful Ones" to "Adore," of course he has songs that touch people emotionally....lol....Just say they don't touch YOU....


>And Prince' Manic Monday can't compete with the songs Stevie
>Wonder wrote for other artists..

Again...I can dig that if that's YOUR opinion.....

>Prince has never come up with something as good as Tell me
>Something Good or I can't help it for an Mj or Chaka.

U mean he didn't come up with something as "black" as "Tell Me Something Good?" All I know is Prince could go from "777-9311" to "Nasty Girl" to writing a groove for a fucking Stevie Nicks hit ("Stand Back") cranking out a bluesy church joint for Patti Labelle ("Yo Mister") and then do some poppy R&B for Tevin Campbell....He didn't need to make a "I Can't Help It" (which is fucking brilliant BTW...My favorite song on Off The Wall...Stevie was on some other shit...)....He could knock out a "Glamorous Life" for another artist and then make a "Ballad Of Dorthy Parker" for himself, which is every bit is dope as "Tell Me..." or "I Can't Help..."

U could make a greatest hits out of the man's Vault outtakes....


>Stevie is just on another level man..
>as a singer, songwriter and producer.. even Prince would tell
>you this.. stop playing man.


Man...get the entire fuck out of here with this silly shit....lol

As a singer Stevie indeed beats P...But after that the battle is fierce and close.....I think it's a wash on songwriting....Production, I give a slight edge to Stevie because P usually dominates his aura and sound on other acts while Stevie is more subtle.....

But I'll take P's overall musicianship and prime stage show over Stevie's....

To me they are 1a/1b....U can't go wrong with either one....

But I'm giving u the side-eye for your "hate, hate, hate" Maxx impersonation....I laughed though....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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42. "RE: Stevie Wonder wins by a landslide"
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Sat Oct-10-15 11:59 AM by balloon

          

>>Prince can't even perform most of his songs without feeling
>>embarrassed today and he dosen't have the songs that touch
>>people on a emotional level like Stevie's material (expect
>for
>>Purple Rain)
>
>
>I mean...just say that's your opinion...And I can respect
>that. But I've seen your other posts about Prince,
>homie....Basically what I'm saying is once YOU started
>agreeing that P's best '80s work cannot even fuck with
>Stevie's 80's (which while underrated is iniversally viewed as
>a few notches below his GOAT work from the past decade) it's
>damn near impossible to take you seriously....U basically
>showed your hand on some Maxx-lite shit...lol
>

Where did you get this?? I've said i prefer 80s Stevie to 90s Prince. Are you making stuff up to try to make my post less valid or not reading? And you haven't really responded to what I've said about Prince not being able to perform most of his songs without feeling embarrassed

>
>But lets not generalize.....From "How Come You Don't Call Me
>Anymore" to "The Beautiful Ones" to "Adore," of course he has
>songs that touch people emotionally....lol....Just say they
>don't touch YOU....
>
>
>>And Prince' Manic Monday can't compete with the songs Stevie
>>Wonder wrote for other artists..
>
>Again...I can dig that if that's YOUR opinion.....
>
>>Prince has never come up with something as good as Tell me
>>Something Good or I can't help it for an Mj or Chaka.
>
>U mean he didn't come up with something as "black" as "Tell Me
>Something Good?" All I know is Prince could go from "777-9311"
>to "Nasty Girl" to writing a groove for a fucking Stevie Nicks
>hit ("Stand Back") cranking out a bluesy church joint for
>Patti Labelle ("Yo Mister") and then do some poppy R&B for
>Tevin Campbell....He didn't need to make a "I Can't Help It"
>(which is fucking brilliant BTW...My favorite song on Off The
>Wall...Stevie was on some other shit...)....He could knock out
>a "Glamorous Life" for another artist and then make a "Ballad
>Of Dorthy Parker" for himself, which is every bit is dope as
>"Tell Me..." or "I Can't Help..."
>

I'm talking about songs written for other established artists not for the proteges. Prince has written songs for a lot of talented artists from Celine Dion to Chaka to No Doubt yet most of them didn't stick. You think if Stevie Wonder had written an entire album for Chaka it would've been as bad as what Prince did with her???
Stevie got a better track record with writing songs for established artist without even trying as often as Prince
and "I Can't help it" is better than anything Prince wrote for anyone imo

>U could make a greatest hits out of the man's Vault
>outtakes....
>

Not really.. unless hits mean something different to you...


>
>>Stevie is just on another level man..
>>as a singer, songwriter and producer.. even Prince would
>tell
>>you this.. stop playing man.
>
>
>Man...get the entire fuck out of here with this silly
>shit....lol
>
>As a singer Stevie indeed beats P...But after that the battle
>is fierce and close.....I think it's a wash on
>songwriting....Production, I give a slight edge to Stevie
>because P usually dominates his aura and sound on other acts
>while Stevie is more subtle.....
>


Battle fierce and close in the singing category?? You're probably in the minority here
and which music aged better Prince's or Stevie's to you?? be honest
As for songwriting.. Prince always been stuck in Prince world writing his songs. That's why a lot of his songs don't resonate with the masses... Stevie on the other hand saw the world better than Prince despite being blind and wrote songs that more people could relate and connect to. Even his former engineer thought Stevie was a messenger and said he may be the greatest songwriter of all time.


>But I'll take P's overall musicianship and prime stage show
>over Stevie's....
>

That's a though one which is why I haven't said anything about Stevie being a better musician.. but if you want to compare with each instruments...
Guitar : Prince wins easy of course
Drums : Stevie wins easy
Piano and Synth : Stevie
Bass : probably Prince but they both have different style of bass playing
even in this departement I'd go with Stevie after comparing but you can't go one way or another.. it's close
As far as live performing goes.. that's dosen't really have much to do with the topic and Prince got an advantage there because he's not blind

>To me they are 1a/1b....U can't go wrong with either one....
>
>But I'm giving u the side-eye for your "hate, hate, hate" Maxx
>impersonation....I laughed though....
>
>

I've said i prefer Stevie's 80s output to Prince's 90s and onward which is no hate just the truth.

  

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43. "RE: Stevie Wonder wins by a landslide"
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I mean...Im not the one co signing that In Square Circle >>>> SOTT...

Basically thats what u were getting at when u gave a hi five to Maxxx's post...

I mean once u go that route u picking up on some grade A trolling. Bravo dog...

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44. "RE: Stevie Wonder wins by a landslide"
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Sun Oct-11-15 02:52 AM by balloon

          

>I mean...Im not the one co signing that In Square Circle >>>>
>SOTT...
>

Did you just skip through my entire reply and type this lie again?.. lol
Where are you getting this??? I never said that. Scroll down a bit and read what he posted again. 2 times or 3 times if you need to. I agreed with him on Stevie's 80s albums being better than Prince's 90s albums... I'm not dumb enough to say that Square Circle is better than SOTT.
I really like SOTT btw.. I just don't like it as much as Songs In the key of life.

"
>Basically thats what u were getting at when u gave a hi five
>to Maxxx's post...
>
>I mean once u go that route u picking up on some grade A
>trolling. Bravo dog...

Scroll down a bit and read what he posted that i agreed with again.

  

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45. "And you showed how closed minded you are with this reply."
In response to Reply # 43
Sun Oct-11-15 07:11 AM by balloon

          

After the fact i pointed out to you TWICE that i never said this you keep repeating "your truth".. There's no point in having all this discussion with someone as closed minded are you...

  

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57. "RE: And you showed how closed minded you are with this reply."
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Mon Oct-12-15 06:24 AM by murph71

          

>After the fact i pointed out to you TWICE that i never said
>this you keep repeating "your truth".. There's no point in
>having all this discussion with someone as closed minded are
>you...


My bad homie....I mistook '90s for '80s....Respect....

But my overall point stands....Let's not act like Prince is not even fit to carry Stevie's harmonica.....That's what I was getting from your overall theme. As if the Midget would get laughed out of the room in a discussion about prime studio output....

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60. "RE: And you showed how closed minded you are with this reply."
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Mon Oct-12-15 01:36 PM by balloon

          

>>After the fact i pointed out to you TWICE that i never said
>>this you keep repeating "your truth".. There's no point in
>>having all this discussion with someone as closed minded
>are
>>you...
>
>
>My bad homie....I mistook '90s for '80s....Respect....
>
It's cool....

>But my overall point stands....Let's not act like Prince is
>not even fit to carry Stevie's harmonica.....That's what I was
>getting from your overall theme. As if the Midget would get
>laughed out of the room in a discussion about prime studio
>output....

I was being honest.. Stevie Wonder to me outshines Prince in all categories expect for the "multi-instrumentalist" area which is more debatable.. The rest?? not as much..
You're acting like Prince is in a Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder class as a singer. Let's be real.. he never has been in that class..
and I feel like I've already provided good explanation to support my claims that
Stevie Wonder is the superior singer, songwriter, producer and arranger. Just look at the poll results. Stevie wins this by a landslide

  

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64. "Prince is so overrated it hurts"
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only the purple diabetics think otherwise.

in the real world nobody has tripped off that turkey in almost 30 years.

i don't blame that turkey for the name change, who wants to claim alot of that weak music?

youtube ain't missing him either.

keep that purple garbage and let it be recycled.

the landslide proves that despite prince putting all that Coaster music and its used for drinks, nobody wants that mess served

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70. "RE: And you showed how closed minded you are with this reply."
In response to Reply # 60


          

>>>After the fact i pointed out to you TWICE that i never
>said
>>>this you keep repeating "your truth".. There's no point in
>>>having all this discussion with someone as closed minded
>>are
>>>you...
>>
>>
>>My bad homie....I mistook '90s for '80s....Respect....
>>
>It's cool....
>
>>But my overall point stands....Let's not act like Prince is
>>not even fit to carry Stevie's harmonica.....That's what I
>was
>>getting from your overall theme. As if the Midget would get
>>laughed out of the room in a discussion about prime studio
>>output....
>
>I was being honest.. Stevie Wonder to me outshines Prince in
>all categories expect for the "multi-instrumentalist" area
>which is more debatable..

My thing is this: I respect YOUR opinion on that...Because it comes down to taste.....


>You're acting like Prince is in a Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder
>class as a singer. Let's be real.. he never has been in that
>class..

I never said that....In fact I pointed out that Stevie is a better vocalist than Prince....

But as a songwriter and performer Prince more than holds his own to Stevie....What I'm more in debate on is your wild dismissal tone of Prince as if he's not even fit to hold Stevie's microphone like we are talking about Rockwell or something....The shit is laughable....

>and I feel like I've already provided good explanation to
>support my claims that
>Stevie Wonder is the superior singer, songwriter, producer and
>arranger. Just look at the poll results. Stevie wins this by a
>landslide


Hey...whatever makes u dance, homie....U also think that Prince could learn something from KC & The Sunshine band...So what do I know?

Again, you can think Stevie is >>>> than Prince ALL DAY...I have no beef with that....It's all the extra Maxx-esque shit that makes me raise my eyebrows...

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71. "Prince is OVERRATED"
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and to some folks Prince is about in the same boat as Rockwell. Prince got a some songs that most people know, however when compared to Stevie Wonder,Prince can't carry Stevie WOnder's Glasses or wipe them and see them.

if this was 80-87 you can say Prince did really well for a while, however the other 30 plus years he been mediocre @Richard SHerman at best.

Prince been a desperate for a big hit for a quarter of a century.

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72. "RE: And you showed how closed minded you are with this reply."
In response to Reply # 70


          

>>>>After the fact i pointed out to you TWICE that i never
>>said
>>>>this you keep repeating "your truth".. There's no point in
>>>>having all this discussion with someone as closed minded
>>>are
>>>>you...
>>>
>>>
>>>My bad homie....I mistook '90s for '80s....Respect....
>>>
>>It's cool....
>>
>>>But my overall point stands....Let's not act like Prince is
>>>not even fit to carry Stevie's harmonica.....That's what I
>>was
>>>getting from your overall theme. As if the Midget would get
>>>laughed out of the room in a discussion about prime studio
>>>output....
>>
>>I was being honest.. Stevie Wonder to me outshines Prince in
>>all categories expect for the "multi-instrumentalist" area
>>which is more debatable..
>
>My thing is this: I respect YOUR opinion on that...Because it
>comes down to taste.....
>
>
>>You're acting like Prince is in a Ray Charles or Stevie
>Wonder
>>class as a singer. Let's be real.. he never has been in
>that
>>class..
>
>I never said that....In fact I pointed out that Stevie is a
>better vocalist than Prince....
>
>But as a songwriter and performer Prince more than holds his
>own to Stevie....What I'm more in debate on is your wild
>dismissal tone of Prince as if he's not even fit to hold
>Stevie's microphone like we are talking about Rockwell or
>something....The shit is laughable....
>
>>and I feel like I've already provided good explanation to
>>support my claims that
>>Stevie Wonder is the superior singer, songwriter, producer
>and
>>arranger. Just look at the poll results. Stevie wins this by
>a
>>landslide
>
>
>Hey...whatever makes u dance, homie....U also think that
>Prince could learn something from KC & The Sunshine band...So
>what do I know?
>
>Again, you can think Stevie is >>>> than Prince ALL DAY...I
>have no beef with that....It's all the extra Maxx-esque shit
>that makes me raise my eyebrows...

You keep going off topic cause you know you don't have arguments to back up your claims. I gave good explanation about everything and your still acting like you don't understand english

  

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74. "they want to make Prince come off untouchable"
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when again his stuff on a whole ain't aged that well and for quite a few folks he had some big time songs however on a whole he been hit and alot of miss.

not in the same area code as Stevie Wonder let alone universe.

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82. "RE: they want to make Prince come off untouchable"
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Okay...so I largely stayed away from your Prince postings because I already know that this is part of Maxx entertainment package....So there is no reason to go back and forth with u on the subject of Prince given that everyone on OKP knows that shitting on the Midget has become par-for-the-course a decade ago....No beef...at all....

But I take exception to one thing....This business of "us" wanting to make Prince come off as untouchable....For the newcomers on this site like balloon who may not be up on your stiche, it doesn't sit right with me that you r throwing out things that r just not true...

U want to say Prince sucks? Knock yourself out....But there are folks in this very thread that criticized Prince even while defending him...In fact, Basa said he has no use for his current music...I've said that P has seen better days when it comes to his recording output...And u know what? So has Stevie and some of the other GOATS we raise to the heavens....

Whatever else u think about Prince is your opinion and you are perfectly in your rights to shout it out loud....But don't act like folks are just saying Prince's dirty drawers spell like lavender...

People are simply reacting to some very over-the-top trolling post....That's all...

Other than that...peace.....

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85. "RE: they want to make Prince come off untouchable"
In response to Reply # 82
Wed Oct-14-15 10:13 AM by balloon

          

>
>
>
>Okay...so I largely stayed away from your Prince postings
>because I already know that this is part of Maxx entertainment
>package....So there is no reason to go back and forth with u
>on the subject of Prince given that everyone on OKP knows that
>shitting on the Midget has become par-for-the-course a decade
>ago....No beef...at all....
>
>But I take exception to one thing....This business of "us"
>wanting to make Prince come off as untouchable....For the
>newcomers on this site like balloon who may not be up on your
>stiche, it doesn't sit right with me that you r throwing out
>things that r just not true...
>
>U want to say Prince sucks? Knock yourself out....But there
>are folks in this very thread that criticized Prince even
>while defending him...In fact, Basa said he has no use for his
>current music...I've said that P has seen better days when it
>comes to his recording output...And u know what? So has Stevie
>and some of the other GOATS we raise to the heavens....
>
>Whatever else u think about Prince is your opinion and you are
>perfectly in your rights to shout it out loud....But don't act
>like folks are just saying Prince's dirty drawers spell like
>lavender...
>
>People are simply reacting to some very over-the-top trolling
>post....That's all...
>

I actually don't think Maxx trolls as much as you think. I haven't been around all this time but you've said he's been posting for years this way. You think he's not being honest with his views after this long about some of things he posts? Of course he throwns funny lines here and there to make it funny but i do think these things he says reflect his views. The way i see it to some of y'all, Prince makes most artists look bad and small because he's an around talent who can perform really good live and not many can do that. But if you look at it from the perspective of how many songs he got that most people care about, how his songs have aged, how good of a singer he is and whatnot..a lot of artists can be considered better. It's all opinion.. Why should we automatically place Prince over anyone just because of his abilities when there's other things to value as well such quality of the songs, the production, the singing and other things. It depends of what the listener values first.
and the fact that you're in the post calling people trolls because they think Stevie Wonder is vastly superior to Prince shows how not so open you are when it comes
putting someone over Prince. You've kinda exposed yourself in this thread.

  

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89. "RE: they want to make Prince come off untouchable"
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Thu Oct-15-15 11:17 AM by murph71

          

>I actually don't think Maxx trolls as much as you think.

I stopped u there. Do a search of Maxx's posts and Prince and the hits keep on coming...Trust...The problem with Maxx is he takes something that can be viewed as true (like say, Prince's brilliance in the studio has dwindled considerably) and turns it into Freddie Jackson >>>>>> Prince....

We've had some cool debates but when Maxx would go off the deep end I would have to walk away (the name calling and outright hyperbole and tap dancing-lying became too much to bear....) because in the past dude has been wildly disrespectful...

It's called shock posting....Maxx has mastered the artform...It's entertaining....But it has also been disturbing...

What u r reading now is the kindler, gentler Maxx....But for folks that have gone back and forth with him over the years we know how the fun and games can turn pretty dark and unsettling...

All this to say, Maxx is just being Maxx when it comes to Prince. He can say WHATEVER he wants about the Midget's music. I would rather see dude posting that he thinks KC is a superior producer and bandleader to Prince (which in itself is laughable) than lashing out at OKPers in an insane way, dropping multiple hate posts in one day and getting banned....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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87. "oh there is some purple Illuminati dranky drink juice at work"
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yeah the Prince kool aid drinkers think he is Mafia for real
and its one thing if you are talking about his 80's prime and peak
and when he brings it live thats subjective and opinion, however
this turkey from the Batman era til now been on more gimmickys

than Sigfield and ROy show and trying to pulling something out of his hat like he is on "Lets make a deal" and the Purple Mafia just turns away
and cops pleas

however it ain't all your fault since Prince brings it on himself.

truth is nobody calls Prince out on it except objective heads
and lets be real Prince cooked since late 87 to alot folks,however he gets to coast and put out coasters so its par for the course.

no harm no foul, peace

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19. "Stevie."
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I think '80s Prince is the next best thing to '70s Stevie

but '70s Stevie is why we love "albums"



  

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20. "are you kidding me? Stevie Mops the Purple Slurp all day and night"
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its not even close and you still hear Stevie Songs holding up
and doing things.

man look Stevie's 80's albums are better than Prince albums from 90s til now and it ain't even close.

Hotter than July by itself over Prince albums from the 90's til now.

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21. "RE: are you kidding me? Stevie Mops the Purple Slurp all day and night"
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>its not even close and you still hear Stevie Songs holding
>up
>and doing things.
>
>man look Stevie's 80's albums are better than Prince albums
>from 90s til now and it ain't even close.
>
>Hotter than July by itself over Prince albums from the 90's
>til now.


Prince would probably agree

dude

  

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23. "^^ agree with all of this"
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Thu Oct-01-15 11:29 PM by balloon

          

>its not even close and you still hear Stevie Songs holding
>up

>and doing things.
>
>man look Stevie's 80's albums are better than Prince albums
>from 90s til now and it ain't even close.
>


can't disagree with you.. even Conversation Peace is better than the crap albums Prince been putting out since the 90s
this is for another topic though..

>Hotter than July by itself over Prince albums from the 90's
>til now.

easily..

  

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53. "Prince can't steer Stevie's car and Stevie don't even drive"
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its not even close. Stevie could do Prince's thing in his sleep and matter of fact when Stevie was inspired for a minute by Sly Stone he already did.

Prince as a songwriter is about as deep as a Jerry Springer final thought. Prince and lyrics ain't why we liked that turkey back when he counted in the 80's. he ain't a deep thinker however combining a groove
and vibe got prince over.

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92. "Yoooooooooo lmao"
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>Prince as a songwriter is about as deep as a Jerry Springer
>final thought.

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22. "Prince is a deity and it's still Stevie by a landslide."
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Even Prince's classic '80s joints have filler, except for Purple Rain, IMO...

Stevie's '70s run is as close to perfection as it gets.


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24. "please...stevie don't have an adore or FIML in the arsenal"
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he just don't.

and sign o' the times is a better song that higher ground. yeah...i said that. because it's true.

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25. "And Prince doesn't have a "Superwoman" or "Living For The City""
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a "You Haven't Done Nothin"
a "Joy (Takes Over Me)",
a "Superstition"
an "All In Love Is Fair"
the list goes on

This is silly to point out tho, since the make different kinds of songs.

"It Ain't No Use" is also a better song than "Christopher Tracy's Parade".
It just is... it's also a silly comparison just like the one you made lol


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27. ""List goes on" <----- who gon win this, REALLY? "
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>a "You Haven't Done Nothin"
>a "Joy (Takes Over Me)",
>a "Superstition"
>an "All In Love Is Fair"
>the list goes on

that's four songs. we can pull from prince's unreleased stash to compete with this, dogg.

>This is silly to point out tho, since the make different kinds
>of songs.

different kinds of songs, but the same themes.

>"It Ain't No Use" is also a better song than "Christopher
>Tracy's Parade".

not better than How Come You Don't Call Me Anymore tho.


>It just is... it's also a silly comparison just like the one
>you made lol

this thread silly.

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28. "i agree. "
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going song for song...Prince is going to win just off the NUMBER of great songs in his catalog. i would run out of great Stevie songs before i run out of great Prince songs. to wit, i've made playlists of my favorite Stevie and Prince songs. the Stevie playlist has 93 songs - and it includes a few songs Stevie wrote/produced for other acts. the Prince playlist has 173 songs and only has songs Prince recorded himself.

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37. "I'm less concerned with quantity here than percentage"
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>that's four songs. we can pull from prince's unreleased stash
>to compete with this, dogg.


We could, but why would Stevie even want a "Last Heart" fucking up his 70s run?


>>"It Ain't No Use" is also a better song than "Christopher
>>Tracy's Parade".
>
>not better than How Come You Don't Call Me Anymore tho.


Which isn't even better than "Lately"... an 80s Stevie song lol. Cmon man, don't do this.


>>It just is... it's also a silly comparison just like the one
>>you made lol
>
>this thread silly.
>


Yeah alotta Lesson threads are.


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30. "Prince doesn't have a 'You and I' in his arsenal; Prince doesn't have a"
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Ngiculela-Es Una Historia in his arsenal...

He *thinks* he has a Contusion in his arsenal, but he don't.

Prince has his lane and he is one of our treasured artists...but he ain't Stevie. Neither was Al, nor Donny or the rest of them.

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33. "Stevie doesn't have an 'Erotic City' or 'When Doves Cry'"
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or 'Head'.

as you said - they operate in different lanes.

fuck you.

  

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>He *thinks* he has a Contusion in his arsenal, but he don't.
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40. "RE: Prince doesn't have a 'You and I' in his arsenal; Prince doesn't hav..."
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"Adore"?

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46. "adore better than that shit and these dudes know it. "
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49. "Adore is amazing...but I ain't playing it at a cookout."
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There isn't any way to honestly compare them.

I can make a 2 hour mix of Prince ballads and not want to skip over anything...but the ONLY time I'ma play it is if I'm cuffed up with a shortie.


That's not a judgement AGAINST Prince, and I know that his music has more range than pantie dropping.

But the depth of Stevie's music for me goes deeper than the depth of Prince's music, and for that reason I assign more value to Stevie's music.

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51. "who cares? it's better. "
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254. "hmmm..."
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i'm playing "adore" at a cookout before i play "you and i."

"you and i" has always been a play-this-in-very-limited-company type of song for me.

they're not so different, and i was gonna pick "you and i," but s***. they're equally good.

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99. "How I see it."
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>Prince has his lane and he is one of our treasured
>artists...but he ain't Stevie. Neither was Al, nor Donny or
>the rest of them.

  

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29. "LOL. Stevie. Prince stans, don't embarass him by trying to argue this."
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34. "RE: LOL. Stevie. Prince stans, don't embarass him by trying to argue t..."
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Stevie STANS...Prince STANS....They will both pick sides...If u roll with Wonder I can more than respect that....But let's not act like Prince is some hack...lol

Some of y'all doing waaaay too much with that Prince hate....

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35. "they're tied @ #1 in my book."
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i tend to prefer one over the other depending on my mood. but overall i can't choose a favorite between those 2.

i'm mostly in here sticking up for Prince b/c so many have so quickly dismissed the notion that Prince's great-album run might've been as good if not better than Stevie's. i don't think the question is answered easily. as i said originally - my answer depends on my mood. i think their great albums are of roughly equal quality.

fuck you.

  

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39. "RE: they're tied @ #1 in my book."
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>i tend to prefer one over the other depending on my mood.
>but overall i can't choose a favorite between those 2.
>
>i'm mostly in here sticking up for Prince b/c so many have so
>quickly dismissed the notion that Prince's great-album run
>might've been as good if not better than Stevie's. i don't
>think the question is answered easily. as i said originally -
>my answer depends on my mood. i think their great albums are
>of roughly equal quality.


I'm of the mind u can't go wrong with either one: P or Stevie...I'm just perplexed at the few heads in this thread acting like Prince is playing Aereosmith to Stevie's Stones....lol

I mean, I'm old enough to worship Stevie's 70s reign...In fact, dude is THE '70s GOAT (He tops Bowie, P-Funk Curtis, and Jonie....His catalogue edges them all....it's impossible to overstate his brilliance....). Got every '70s work...Know the songs front to back.....

But if you lived through the '80s u know P's run was on some game changing shit too....It's like Basa said in an old post about P vs. Stevie. There are some folks that pick Stevie not simply because of his songwriting brilliance...They do so because of the "blackness" of his music....That's when u start reading shit like, "I can put Stevie on at a barbecue/family reunion...I can't do that with Prince...."

All I know is Prince was running circles around his peers in the 80s...He made people look downright lazy and still was able to drop classic joints that had everyone going back to the lab not to copy an outward style or a choreographed move....They were copying his actual production and sound....

To me Stevie and Prince are the Yin/Yang of the ultimate singer/songwriter/musician....One is earthy and the other is defiant....One is heartfelt, hopeful...The other is at times flawed and neurotic.....

Honestly though I blame Prince for some of the dismissive hate he gets. Because of his obsession with controlling his music and image the general public has yet to understand just how great dude was in the '80s....U either have had to be around during that period, an avid collector or true music head. Right now I can go on Youtube and check out Stevie's work. Can't do that with Prince....I can pick up a remastered version of Stevie's Music of My Mind...Can't do that with Prince....

That's a shame, really.....

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48. "in fact, i said stevie shit is "STUCK THERE" in terms of "blackness""
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it don't transcend it, where people can just appreciate the brilliance.

then, of course, you had the superblacks coming wit they "what's wrong with blackness??!?!" and all that bullshit, accusing my of not appreciating black music.

point is, as always, prince's music is...PRINCE! can't put no label on it. and the furthur he got away from that, the more he's fucking sucked.

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103. "I don't think Stevie would have gotten the 'rockist' support he does"
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>it don't transcend it, where people can just appreciate the
>brilliance.

if he didn't transcend it. granted, he is doing that on a SUPERBLACK platform, but often when I see him discussed, it's not usually in the terms of his Blackness. just in its brilliance. in fact, Stevie ends up being "the" R&B artist for a lot of people who aren't really into that genre.

on the flip, Prince's Blackness has almost EVERYTHING to do with why I think his music is genius. And not because he was doing "rawk" music, but because his music accurately (to me) reflects a possibility of one who is Black, who grew up someplace totally un-Black in MURRICA and absorbed all of that. the accounts of other artists who grew up in MPLS (most notably Jam & Lewis), who said they had to reach HARD to find some damn R&B and funk music over there, and largely depended on their circles paint that picture. And they came out of that and created something amazing. Prince, especially.

no one BUT Prince makes an "Uptown". or "I Wanna Be Your Lover" (and then flipping it the way he did on tours early in the '80s). or fuckin' "Controversy" or "1999". same dude throwing jazzy piano solos in the middle of a proto-house song like "Sexy Dancer". or "troll rock" like "Sister". the countless shit he didn't release.
if Prince came up anywhere else it wouldn't work.

his shit is closer to Todd Rundgren's oeuvre than it is anyone else's (that's another one I wonder about).

  

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110. "as if Rick James didn't cover all that ground and then some?"
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Rick James did everything better than Prince and had the gospel
and cool to embrace Rap.

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50. "good post murph"
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If you're innocent, be cool.
Only the guilty's catchin' offence.

  

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62. "RE: good post murph"
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*Tips cap*....

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317. "this is a good point"
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"Honestly though I blame Prince for some of the dismissive hate he gets. Because of his obsession with controlling his music and image the general public has yet to understand just how great dude was in the '80s....U either have had to be around during that period, an avid collector or true music head. Right now I can go on Youtube and check out Stevie's work. Can't do that with Prince....I can pick up a remastered version of Stevie's Music of My Mind...Can't do that with Prince...."

It is a shame.

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47. "i can go all day, 'cause on the low stevie corny shit WAY worse than Ps"
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102. "'Jughead'. 'Graffiti Bridge'. 'My Name Is Prince'. Countless others."
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Now this could be because Steve can't come close to being as prolific as P... but it has much more to do with the bar Prince set at the door.

even prior to Dirty Mind, his generally agreed coming out party, Prince always had some sort of "edge". he was doing some "no-no" shit but it was all good. it made him interesting.

for him to come out with some of that shit he had on that GB album, to capitulate to rapping (and weak ass rapping at that), to make a "Muppet Movie" ass tune like Graffiti Bridge when he had cultivated badassery the way he had done for years? thank the Matrix "Thieves In The Temple" was on that album.

Stevie is confirmed sappy at times. and when Conversation Peace hit, he had moments where he was trying to show that he was "aware" instead of being who the fuck he is.

but Stevie had a history of the sappiness. he came in the game as a kid, largely singing songs in that vein written by others. he's always had a sense of idealism in his music. he ain't that much different than MJ in that regard.

I'm writing all of this to say that I'd rather hear "Don't Drive Drunk" on repeat for 3 hours straight than to sit through a second of Prince trying to convince people he's still a bad ass by doing everything EXCEPT the things that made him a bad ass in the first place.

Stevie's low >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prince's low.

Stevie never went into an eccentric fantasy land and lost sense of self. He never hooked up with other greats past his prime and let THEM influence who he was.

the worst thing you can say about Stevie nowadays ain't got shit to do with his music. to be fair, the same can be said of Prince, but a lot of his music nowadays can also qualify.

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105. "..."
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#1:

>Now this could be because Steve can't come close to being as
>prolific as P

#2:
>Stevie never went into an eccentric fantasy land and lost
>sense of self.

https://images.rapgenius.com/262c8f1837cd4bd760d92cd548df4872.953x953x1.jpg

fuck you.

  

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113. "cats don't know where Stevie went"
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he put out so many different things and thensome.

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117. "that album was made for a film."
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>https://images.rapgenius.com/262c8f1837cd4bd760d92cd548df4872.953x953x1.jpg

with a specific topic, on which Stevie stayed through its duration. that's about the "weirdest" Stevie ever got. and yet, there was no sense that Stevie sounded "un-Stevie" or detached from Earth.

(which I would feel sometimes about MJ, and Prince even, at points in the '90s)

"Send One Your Love" works both as a song inside and outside the context of that album. Ditto for "Outside Your Window".

I liken it to Batman. (which not surprisingly also was the very end of a decade of great Prince albums)

  

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119. "RE: that album was made for a film."
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>>https://images.rapgenius.com/262c8f1837cd4bd760d92cd548df4872.953x953x1.jpg
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>with a specific topic, on which Stevie stayed through its
>duration. that's about the "weirdest" Stevie ever got. and
>yet, there was no sense that Stevie sounded "un-Stevie" or
>detached from Earth.
>
>(which I would feel sometimes about MJ, and Prince even, at
>points in the '90s)
>
>"Send One Your Love" works both as a song inside and outside
>the context of that album. Ditto for "Outside Your Window".
>
>I liken it to Batman. (which not surprisingly also was the
>very end of a decade of great Prince albums)
>

Secret Life of Plants is a great album. There's some powerful songs on there.
and I remember Prince defending this album in an interview because he loved it

  

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121. "however that album was dissed by critics and sorta got avoided"
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not to mention its hardly ever brought up during discussion on classic Stevie Period. and their is a reason why he was quick to put out"Hotter than July" and July as more accessible and he had to make up for that.

if you are old enough to remember a time when a Artist bowled a gutter ball with the critics and alot of the public and then came back with a Album that either got some strikes and most certainly got some spares.

and IMO Stevie was never quite the same after that album because he did go a bit different on it though "Send one your Love" sounds like his vintage 72-76 era.

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31. "My head chooses Stevie's output, but I listen to Prince's waaaay more."
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I'd personally take Prince's released and vaulted/bootlegged 80's material over ANY other artist's peak period. It just resonates with me that much; lyrically, vocally and instrumentally. But I think Stevie's is more universal/accessible and palatable. Largely because Stevie has the stronger voice, his 70's era production is more lush, and his songwriting was imaginative and engaging, yet catchy; while not as sexually driven as Prince's was.

  

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32. "Stevie's 70's run gets more burn at the family reunion/cookout."
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Even now, alot of folks (non-OKP types) have to be sort of "in the mood" for alot of Prince's stuff, even the 80's stuff.

But to answer the question, Stevie.

  

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52. "Stevei"
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I listen to Stevie several times a week at least. While hiking this weekend I listed to Music of My Mind and Talking Book AND Hotter Than July back to back to back.

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54. "the breakdown and here it goes"
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Stevie's vault wins

Stevie's songwriting wins

Stevie's Productions Wins

Stevie's singing Wins

Stevie's arranging wins

Stevie's Albums Wins

Stevie got a stronger sound as well as a instrumentalist and band leader.

Stevie got more better material for decades as well.

that girl and do i do alone murk Prince from 90 til now.

the only thing Prince can do better than Stevie Wonder is dance

and if you give Stevie some special shoes than that might be close.


Stevie ain't clown himself like Prince musically. prince been putting out more coasters than a 40/40 club can display in a sitting.

most people not associated with the Purple Kool aid diabetics can't even remember the last Prince song they even liked and asking them an album by him, oh lawd for get that.

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55. "all Prince slow songs sound the same"
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and he was good in the 80's however what else he got? just an ok 70's artist. corny and dated from the 90's til now.

must be people know Prince is a good oldies but goodies live act and it still works.

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59. "please...stevie ain't had a hit in forever...or hit tour"
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fact is, time catches up to EVERYONE. I remember being a kid and thinking James was old and corny as fuck. I'm pretty sure that's how a lotta kids see prince and stevie. that's fine. i don't pretend these dudes supposed to still be making hits.

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61. "RE: please...stevie ain't had a hit in forever...or hit tour"
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>
>fact is, time catches up to EVERYONE. I remember being a kid
>and thinking James was old and corny as fuck. I'm pretty sure
>that's how a lotta kids see prince and stevie. that's fine. i
>don't pretend these dudes supposed to still be making hits.
>
>and by the way, kids think kelz wack as shit, too.


This ^^^^ for the most part is true....

But u know whats funny? Theres not too many acts that can announce a concert at a 15,000 to 20,000 seater just two days in advance and fill it up. I think if u asked Kellz or any one else who came out a decade plus after Prince they would gladly take that as a so called washed up Purple Kool Aid guzzler...

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66. "ain't no bigge packing a 15 thou to 20 thou place"
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Prince is just another in a line oldies but goodies acts that do that.

Lionel Richie, Stevie Wonder do that,Smokey Robinson can, Charlie Wilson can as well,

Johnny Mathis been doing that for decades plus.

Sade does it as well.


alot of acts do that.

and R.kelly done played that big ole chill bowl in SOuth Africa and other places period and lets remember Kellz done did big time box office with modern music.

funny how those Purple diabetics don't mention that Prince done played some county fairs on the set of "living single" and that mess went wood.

if Prince don't play the hits, than that turkey would be lucky to pack a funny farm.

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67. "Has Stevie Wonder even tried to have hits like Prince has in recent year..."
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>>
>>fact is, time catches up to EVERYONE. I remember being a kid
>>and thinking James was old and corny as fuck. I'm pretty
>sure
>>that's how a lotta kids see prince and stevie. that's fine.
>i
>>don't pretend these dudes supposed to still be making hits.
>>
>>and by the way, kids think kelz wack as shit, too.
>
>
>This ^^^^ for the most part is true....
>
>But u know whats funny? Theres not too many acts that can
>announce a concert at a 15,000 to 20,000 seater just two days
>in advance and fill it up. I think if u asked Kellz or any one
>else who came out a decade plus after Prince they would gladly
>take that as a so called washed up Purple Kool Aid guzzler...

This is getting ridiculous. It's like some of you don't have anything to refute what he's actually talking about so y'all divagate. and what's your point about the concerts? Stevie ain't a household name live as well? You think Prince could pull of a 3 leg tour like Stevie has performing an entire album from beginning to end?
and this got nothing to do with what he posted.

  

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68. "Songs in the Key of Life tour goes hard,meanwhile Prince"
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been doing that vegas lite gig for years or playing Cover man
and dropping snippets
and riffs.

or he brought out those Broke No Go Go's and got clowned.

Stevie Wonder is a Better Live Act than Prince IMO and his Band ain't no gimmick either.

these cats are hurt because Stevie ain't wrecked his legacy by flooding the market with wack Coaster ready albums for almost 30 years.

i'd be madd as well if a Artist I was hyping been trying to make a comeback for years, decades, etc.. and can't make a dent at all.

Prince trying to go platinum with finger hut credit. nobody outside of the purple heads care about that turkey and its because he been washed up for so long that memory is almost forgotten.

stevie wonder ain't never pandered as badly as Prince
and that is why you see the respect and the blow out also the quality speaks for itself

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69. "RE: Has Stevie Wonder even tried to have hits like Prince has in recent ..."
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>>>
>>>fact is, time catches up to EVERYONE. I remember being a
>kid
>>>and thinking James was old and corny as fuck. I'm pretty
>>sure
>>>that's how a lotta kids see prince and stevie. that's fine.
>>i
>>>don't pretend these dudes supposed to still be making hits.
>
>>>
>>>and by the way, kids think kelz wack as shit, too.
>>
>>
>>This ^^^^ for the most part is true....
>>
>>But u know whats funny? Theres not too many acts that can
>>announce a concert at a 15,000 to 20,000 seater just two
>days
>>in advance and fill it up. I think if u asked Kellz or any
>one
>>else who came out a decade plus after Prince they would
>gladly
>>take that as a so called washed up Purple Kool Aid
>guzzler...
>
>This is getting ridiculous. It's like some of you don't have
>anything to refute what he's actually talking about so y'all
>divagate. and what's your point about the concerts? Stevie
>ain't a household name live as well? You think Prince could
>pull of a 3 leg tour like Stevie has performing an entire
>album from beginning to end?
>and this got nothing to do with what he posted.

Before we get into the whole refuting thing, my co-signing of Basa's point had nothing to do with him saying Stevie doesn't have a "hit" tour....SOTKOL was a touring triumph....What I was co-signing about was Basa's point that u can say the same thing about other acts that Maxx continues to toss Prince's way....


As for whether or not P could pull off a SITKOL type tour? Of course he can do a three leg trek...We talking about someone that filled up a 15,000 arena just this year on literally just a few days of notice...U actually think that Prince wouldn't sell out 20,000-25,000 seaters if he announced: "HEY EVERYBODY...I'M GOING TO DO A PURPLE RAIN THEME TOUR AND PERFORM EACH SONG FROM BEGINNING TO END!!!!!"? Of course he would....And like Stevie it wouldn't just be a SOTKOL tour (Stevie also performed other songs on that tour)....

There's a lot u can say about Prince....He's at times clueless when it comes to running his own operation; He's def. seen his best days as a songwriter....And he has at times gone off the deep end when it comes to his battles with social media...But on the touring front? Dude has had even more success than Stevie...And he usually does it with little promotion...

As for your underlining point, there's nothing to refute when it comes to Maxx and Prince...This has been his thing for a LOOOOOOONG time...LOL...He shits on Prince whether it's his prime years or his lackluster years....He hates Prince like dude took his girlfriend's panties....I'm talking JIHAD on all things Prince....DUDE ONCE SAID FREDDIE JACKSON WAS BETTER THAN PRINCE...Seriously....

So what u get is that other thread where the homie Maxx screams out KC >>>>>>> PRINCE

It is what it is.....


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73. "because Prince gets way overrated "
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i mean did Michael Jackson get a 30 year pass? MJ went out subpar with Inivincible, and his last great stuff was stranger in moscow,

Dangerous last album,however take MJ for instance he still went further with tight cuts,etc..

if Prince had have done something from the 90's til now at least on a album or something that stuck then i could understand, however for all those albums.hype,etc... the cat just doesn't match the hype
and it ain't like he ain't trying.

oh personally there alot of artists whom i feel are better than prince and their stuff has aged better than Prince.

Prince is strong on stage i have always usually given him that, though he has been spotty there as well at times.

but studio wise, they need to Put a Yellow tape line if he is even thinking of entering the building.


issue i have with Purple Heads is folks act like there weren't other happening and very talented acts out when Prince was at his peak
and prime.

and it was always about the sound with Prince overall.

not everybody who knows or follows Music feels Prince.

he got alot of fans
and he alot of folks who are indifferent to him
and alot of that is his fault for so much subpar material on the real,
but he can always tour except when he brings them broke Go's Go's

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88. "mick jack got a lifetime pass, dogg...for WACK shit"
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>i mean did Michael Jackson get a 30 year pass? MJ went out
>subpar with Inivincible, and his last great stuff was
>stranger in moscow,

dogg, mike's biggest album is full or corny ass shit that hasn't stood the test of time, sonically. no one wants to have honest critiques of mike's shit. it's full of corny synths that quincey pulled from prince in the first fuckin place and used them to create a sonic palate of corny ass disney music that became MICHAEL JACKSON SOUND post-off the wall. thriller and bad are silly ass cartoons. if music had nutritional value, them shits were TWINKIES, my nigga. that's why niggas focus on mike's VISUALS...he fuckin danced and niggas love that magic and they associate that shit to the music, which is ultimately an AFTERTHOUGHT. it kills me that no one be telling the truth about mike's legacy. like i'm supposed to say he was a musician and songwriter because he'd make the beat with his voice and a producer and REAL musicians would flesh that shit out into a FINAL PRODUCT!?!?!? FUCK NO i ain't giving credit for that. that's ridiculous.


>Dangerous last album,however take MJ for instance he still
>went further with tight cuts,etc..

what tight cuts? niggas only remember the songs with the big budget videos, LIKE ALL MJ'S MEMORABLE SONGS.

>if Prince had have done something from the 90's til now at
>least on a album or something that stuck then i could
>understand, however for all those albums.hype,etc... the cat
>just doesn't match the hype
>and it ain't like he ain't trying.

prince had a top ten hit EVERY YEAR for more than a decade, well into the 90s. i've let you revise history long enough, because i enjoy your cysey ass trolling, but facts are facts. you can still troll and i'mma still laugh, but you ain't gonna just get to SAY STUFF no more. not when i check out a thread. if i see it, i'm correcting it and i'mma go right back to laughing.


>oh personally there alot of artists whom i feel are better
>than prince and their stuff has aged better than Prince.

guess what? mike ain't one of them.

>Prince is strong on stage i have always usually given him
>that, though he has been spotty there as well at times.

that's because he's a musician. he's arguably THE most talented musician of the rock era and he's in serious consideration for the single most talented musician EVER...like, in the history of earth, my dude. NOBODY will ever say that about mike...because it's LAUGHABLE. mike's the biggest music star ever, like tom cruise is the biggest movie star ever. that's IT!!! why make it bigger than it was. i lived through it. he was a performer. at no time...EVER...was he the BEST at MAKING ***MUSIC***...he didn't DEFINE an era of MUSIC.

i know who did tho. and that's what you can't stand.

>but studio wise, they need to Put a Yellow tape line if he is
>even thinking of entering the building.

shit, i don't disagree. the shit he making now is trash.

>
>issue i have with Purple Heads is folks act like there weren't
>other happening and very talented acts out when Prince was at
>his peak
>and prime.

there were maxxx, but they weren't in the same fuckin galaxy. we all know it. if you lived through it. you know this. every MUSICIAN who lived through it, from quincey to fuckin tori amos KNOWS who THE NIGGA was. for some reason, it bothers you that mike don't get to be the biggest music star of the era AND the BEST MUSICIAN of the era.


>and it was always about the sound with Prince overall.
>
>not everybody who knows or follows Music feels Prince.

that's the case with EVERYBODY, maxxx. i don't FEEL that beatles, but apparently, people think they're great.

>he got alot of fans
>and he alot of folks who are indifferent to him

again...same with every artist. you're not saying anything.

>and alot of that is his fault for so much subpar material on
>the real,

cyse. that was the case since the 80s. has nothing to do with subpar material

>but he can always tour except when he brings them broke Go's
>Go's

i seriously wish mike hadn't died, because i was so looking forward to him aging on stage and doing them wack PLAYED ass dance moves...SLOOOOOOOOWLY.

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90. "MJ was a fine songwriter."
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I get sick of ppl saying MJ wasn't a great songwriter.

He wrote billie jean.
He wrote don't stop till you get enough.

Who cares if he can't play instruments? George Clinton doesn't either.

I personally loathe prince vs mj debates because the two artists have
nothing in common, aside from being Black.

But MJ's magic is about more than his dancing and visuals.
He wrote great songs, sang them impeccibly, and he had a vision to make those albums have the sound he wanted.

Quincy, as a producer, doesn't make magic without MJ.
(as an arranger, that's another story).

MJ is not a prolific songwriter,
but he is a great one.



Why ppl insist on tearing down MJ or prince to lift up one or the other is
tired.

Both fans do it, and it is always dumb.

They are both geniuses.

Prince is a better songwriter.
But MJ's legacy would not be what it is based on the moonwalk and cool videos had he not been a fantastic songwriter.

Enough with the lies.

  

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94. "should be used to it by now, because he wasn't. "
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>I get sick of ppl saying MJ wasn't a great songwriter.

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96. "neither MJ or Prince are what I call great songwriters IMO"
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Great overall artist can be stated for MJ. I think Prince had a great decade.

but neither one of them IMO are Great songwriters and certainly not in the same universe as Stevie Wonder. MJ wrote some great songs
and then he had great things presented to him which complimented him.

Prince wrote some big songs,however nobody outside of Purple Orbit dares think of Prince as some sort of great songwriter. better as a Musician,but not great as a songwriter. to me like MJ as a songwriter in the good tier league.

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97. "billie jean."
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Don't stop till you get enough.
Heartbreak hotel.
Stranger in Moscow.


He ain't lennon mccarney, thom bell,
Prince, george clinton level.

But jesus...
He can write songs just fine.

  

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100. "you could have stopped at the subject line"
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from Destiny forward, a lot of the big "Michael Jackson" songs were written by Michael Jackson.

The BIGGEST Michael Jackson songs, even.

I mean, do people read liner notes anymore?

This is not to zero-sum it. But I find it funny that those arguing against the case for Michael Jackson as songwriter try to take his songwriting credits out of the picture.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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112. "because the lack of respect for MJ is strong"
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you got turkeys acting like MJ was Casper and only glowed when the lights were out and down play him.


they act like his songs were ringtones and treat him like he is rhianna or something?? its insulting

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91. "MJ got classics acting like he was lester and everybody else"
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was wilie tyler or something?

MJ wrote classic songs period.

acting like he didn't have a hand with destiny and triumph?

acting like this man didn't compose timeless classics
and another classic 20 years back with stranger in moscow?

acting like MJ wasn't a Pros Pro as the leader of the Jackson 5. Man as a kid had a vocal instrument of that of a Bluesman period.

wake me up when Prince can turn out SMokey RObinson's "who's loving you"?? MJ did that as a kid playa.

MJ was a versatile artist and the songs hit. no matter what the musical style MJ hit and hit hard.

Prince got left in the purple wind by rap and New Jack Swing. Prince couldn't carry Teddy RIley's s curl kit or comb
and he was broken down by New Jack Swing.

MJ though fliped it and made it work.

MJ was more gifted and talented than Prince IMO.

alot of turkeys can play alot of instruments however getting the songs
and holding it down is another thing.

Prince ain't had a memorable hit to most folks since "Kiss" think about it, most folks don't walk down the street singing sign o the times, alphabet street,batdance, thieves in the temple, diamonds and pearls,cream or the most beautiful girl in the world.

Prince ain't had a hit since Me phi Me was out and cracking and Domino.

Prince been putting more coasters than your local bar and tavern can put out on a saturday night.

everybody knows that turkey got those usual songs to play because nobody wants to hear anything he got past 87.

Prince ain't seeing no MJ in any galaxy.

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93. "mike fell off because he got old and couldn't move no more. "
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he looked a damn fool compared to usher or CB...and he fell off. period.

his music was too reliant on visuals to carry him into the golden years. same with madonna. that's just a fact.

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95. "no, it wasn't."
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>his music was too reliant on visuals to carry him into the
>golden years.

Billie Jean, a fantastic record, written by MJ, was a smash BEFORE motown 25.

The novelty hit, "thriller," needed the video. But MJ ain't write that song.

Don't stop till you get enough?
Same thing. It was a hit song he wrote that did not need the video to be a smash.


And why compare MJ and prince anyway, from a mmusical perspective.

They have very little in common.

  

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98. "prince fell off Because Teddy RIley made him look like a grandpa"
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and at least with MJ he was 20 plus years deep when he started to fall off, Prince was busted after 10 and never has recovered and couldn't hand with rap and new Jack Swing.

Prince ain't even in Madonna's league because not only did she keep a hit but she still ain't ashamed of doing her new stuff.

Prince been dropping coasters and frisbees for nearly 25 years straight. turkey better have them oldies but goodies linned up or else
prince aint danced in a minute
and he fell off harder than most

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101. "Thriller is not a 'synth' album."
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>dogg, mike's biggest album is full or corny ass shit that
>hasn't stood the test of time, sonically. no one wants to have
>honest critiques of mike's shit. it's full of corny synths
>that quincey pulled from prince in the first fuckin place and
>used them to create a sonic palate of corny ass disney music
>that became MICHAEL JACKSON SOUND post-off the wall. thriller
>and bad are silly ass cartoons. if music had nutritional
>value, them shits were TWINKIES, my nigga. that's why niggas
>focus on mike's VISUALS...he fuckin danced and niggas love
>that magic and they associate that shit to the music, which is
>ultimately an AFTERTHOUGHT. it kills me that no one be telling
>the truth about mike's legacy. like i'm supposed to say he was
>a musician and songwriter because he'd make the beat with his
>voice and a producer and REAL musicians would flesh that shit
>out into a FINAL PRODUCT!?!?!? FUCK NO i ain't giving credit
>for that. that's ridiculous.


Thriller is an album from 1982...

...that sounds like an album from 1982.

It's the pop sound of the LA studios scene, circa that era, with more R&B. The peak of the corniness on that album (IMO) was the title track. And that's really because of the lyrics and the theme around them (the Vincent Price shit). If the song was "Starlight" as it was originally written

1) that song would be NOT memorable and the inarguable "dud"
2) the album might have been called something else. "Beat It" or some shit.

I don't even think of the synthesizer parts when I think of Thriller. They are not the forefront. The only song that really goes hard on the drum machine was "Wanna Be Starting Something". It's a very organic, conventional instrument using ass, contemporary album for the most part. Mike wasn't trying to be "edgy" here. He was speaking to his pop roots harder than ever.

With Thriller, I think of that one-time in history that a Black artist could go MOR and not sound like some shit, because there was more "R&B" in the sound (even the white artists who crossed over from the other side followed suit in this regard).


However, one could make the "synth" argument for 1999, more than they could Thriller. I wouldn't agree with them, because I think what Prince was doing with synths on that album (and the satellite albums from The Time and Vanity 6) is genius (esp. the Time's album). He actually was a paradigm shift. "Nah, fuck this live band shit, I got one in my show, but on my record? Linn and Oberheim, Bruh". That's the "new wave" in Prince. But really, the only people who really notice the genius of what Prince was doing from an engineering perspective are those who you find on gearslutz.com or here in the Lesson (for example).

Further more, the "Disney" argument applies more to Bad (ESP. if you include the visuals of some of those videos). Time has made me a little kinder to that period of Mike's career, but I really wish he could do-over his life (and some of his music) from the Pepsi fire forward. Mike has some classic pop records and singles on that record, but the album cuts.... rrrgh, man. I feel like he was resting on his laurels a lil. Or rather, his idea of transcending wasn't the kind that I was particularly into. But I was a kid then, and even then I knew that I preferred "Thriller" Mike a lot more than that period. It was a sign of the times.

Where I give Prince props is that he at least tried to be interesting in a way that other artists weren't in that time. Parade, SOTT, even Lovesexy (the Black Album if it were released when it was supposed to be, moreso).

Then Prince started acknowledging the outside world ("Mistake #1" - Megatron), occasionally going into his "zone" to drop a bonafide hit or at least a good album track. but for all his '80s grandeur, Prince kept fuckin' around doing shit he shouldn't have been doing (musically). Just like Michael. 1984 might have been Prince's Pepsi Fire. That much stardom... he might have Cuban B'd it for a few years, but when he stopped being the critical darling, he kept reaching trying to be a "star". fuckin' around with cut-rate rappers. getting away from the world HE created. looking a damn fool. this was BEFORE Larry came into the picture. of course, afterward, we see what happened.



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75. "RE: Has Stevie Wonder even tried to have hits like Prince has in recent ..."
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Tue Oct-13-15 12:16 PM by balloon

          

>>>>
>>>>fact is, time catches up to EVERYONE. I remember being a
>>kid
>>>>and thinking James was old and corny as fuck. I'm pretty
>>>sure
>>>>that's how a lotta kids see prince and stevie. that's
>fine.
>>>i
>>>>don't pretend these dudes supposed to still be making
>hits.
>>
>>>>
>>>>and by the way, kids think kelz wack as shit, too.
>>>
>>>
>>>This ^^^^ for the most part is true....
>>>
>>>But u know whats funny? Theres not too many acts that can
>>>announce a concert at a 15,000 to 20,000 seater just two
>>days
>>>in advance and fill it up. I think if u asked Kellz or any
>>one
>>>else who came out a decade plus after Prince they would
>>gladly
>>>take that as a so called washed up Purple Kool Aid
>>guzzler...
>>
>>This is getting ridiculous. It's like some of you don't have
>>anything to refute what he's actually talking about so y'all
>>divagate. and what's your point about the concerts? Stevie
>>ain't a household name live as well? You think Prince could
>>pull of a 3 leg tour like Stevie has performing an entire
>>album from beginning to end?
>>and this got nothing to do with what he posted.
>
>Before we get into the whole refuting thing, my co-signing of
>Basa's point had nothing to do with him saying Stevie doesn't
>have a "hit" tour....SOTKOL was a touring triumph....What I
>was co-signing about was Basa's point that u can say the same
>thing about other acts that Maxx continues to toss Prince's
>way....
>
>
>As for whether or not P could pull off a SITKOL type tour? Of
>course he can do a three leg trek...We talking about someone
>that filled up a 15,000 arena just this year on literally just
>a few days of notice...U actually think that Prince wouldn't
>sell out 20,000-25,000 seaters if he announced: "HEY
>EVERYBODY...I'M GOING TO DO A PURPLE RAIN THEME TOUR AND
>PERFORM EACH SONG FROM BEGINNING TO END!!!!!"? Of course he
>would....And like Stevie it wouldn't just be a SOTKOL tour
>(Stevie also performed other songs on that tour)....
>

That's not true at all. He can't perform all the songs on this album for a tour because of his relgious views and he dosen't seem to get along with his former bandmate and not all the songs on this album sound very good live. He couldn't pull off a tour singing an entire album (pick any Prince album) from beginning to end as well as Stevie is.. and this is once again off topic

>There's a lot u can say about Prince....He's at times clueless
>when it comes to running his own operation; He's def. seen his
>best days as a songwriter....And he has at times gone off the
>deep end when it comes to his battles with social media...But
>on the touring front? Dude has had even more success than
>Stevie...And he usually does it with little promotion...
>

well that's great that he can do that. I'm not arguing that Prince is not a great performer and a concert seller. But why bring these things up when this topic got nothing to do with this. Stevie and Prince are both great live. I've never seen them live but i can't argue with this

>As for your underlining point, there's nothing to refute when
>it comes to Maxx and Prince...This has been his thing for a
>LOOOOOOONG time...LOL...He shits on Prince whether it's his
>prime years or his lackluster years....He hates Prince like
>dude took his girlfriend's panties....I'm talking JIHAD on all
>things Prince....DUDE ONCE SAID FREDDIE JACKSON WAS BETTER
>THAN PRINCE...Seriously....
>
>So what u get is that other thread where the homie Maxx
>screams out KC >>>>>>> PRINCE
>
>It is what it is.....
>

It's like your going off topic this entire thread cause you're struggling to make Prince look better next to Stevie. That's what i get from your posts all over this thread. This topic got nothing to do with the other artists Maxx likes. He's got his opinions with other artists just like anyone else but is it exaggeration to say Stevie Wonder is much better than Prince? no it isn't.

  

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77. "*yawns*"
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>That's not true at all. He can't perform all the songs on this
>album for a tour because of his relgious views

he performs 'Darling Nikki' these days, player. i assume he modifies the lyric re: masturbating w/a magazine.

and he dosen't
>seem to get along with his former bandmate and not all the
>songs on this album sound very good live. He couldn't pull off
>a tour singing an entire album (pick any Prince album) from
>beginning to end as well as Stevie is.. and this is once again
>off topic

LOL

the question was whether P could pull off a sell-out tour performing one of his classic albums from top to bottom. the answer is clearly 'yes' - ppl would definitely flock to see him perform Purple Rain in total even if he didn't have the Revolution backing him up (note: Stevie doesn't have the original Wonderlove as his backing band on this SITKOL tour). those tix would sell out in minutes. you can dispute that if you want but you'd be a fool to do so. but i already know what's coming next b/c... LOL.

fuck you.

  

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78. "why won't he though? because that mess would be weak"
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purple rain live back in the day was corny
and i saw that tour, 30 years later it would be like a broke sigfield and roy show on acid.

Prince was pandering hardcore on that tour and he hated it so i doubt he would even entertain that.


Stevie does full cuts
and got it down pat. its not even close Prince ain't in the same universe as Stevie Wonder

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79. "*yawns*"
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*stretches*'
*spits*

fuck you.

  

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80. "RE: *yawns*"
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>
>>That's not true at all. He can't perform all the songs on
>this
>>album for a tour because of his relgious views
>
>he performs 'Darling Nikki' these days, player. i assume he
>modifies the lyric re: masturbating w/a magazine.
>

speaking the truth as usual..... NOT!

> and he dosen't
>>seem to get along with his former bandmate and not all the
>>songs on this album sound very good live. He couldn't pull
>off
>>a tour singing an entire album (pick any Prince album) from
>>beginning to end as well as Stevie is.. and this is once
>again
>>off topic
>
>LOL
>
>the question was whether P could pull off a sell-out tour
>performing one of his classic albums from top to bottom. the
>answer is clearly 'yes' - ppl would definitely flock to see
>him perform Purple Rain in total even if he didn't have the
>Revolution backing him up (note: Stevie doesn't have the
>original Wonderlove as his backing band on this SITKOL tour).
>those tix would sell out in minutes. you can dispute that if
>you want but you'd be a fool to do so. but i already know
>what's coming next b/c... LOL.
>

why do you act like you don't understand english? He couldn't pull this shit off today for the reasons I've mentioned. Plus as Maxx posted Prince himself said he really hated doing it back then and it showed.

  

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83. "yup. you got it, chief."
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that's it.

fuck you.

  

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84. ""I'm gona type anything..."
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just to have to the last word and make it look like I'm right although I know I'm not" In SoWhat's head

  

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86. "that's what i do."
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fuck you.

  

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65. "Stevie had more decades of hits and way more impact than Prince"
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aside from the 80's what else does Prince got?
and lets be real he didn't dominate over MJ or Rick or Lionel for that matter.

Prince had to wait in line to get some food for his purple tray.

Prince been wack longer.

and Kellz never has fallen off BTW and He has outlasted Prince.

Stevie hit hard in the 60's,70's and 80's thats 3 to 1 to Prince.

Prince was decent for almost a decade. and then he stanks for 25 years.

miss me with that Purple kool aid Pitcher serving up excuses

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81. "LMFAO"
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>and lets be real he didn't dominate over MJ or Rick or Lionel
>for that matter.
>
>Prince had to wait in line to get some food for his purple
>tray.


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76. "Maxxx in here droppin' bombs, lol."
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Since 1976

  

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56. "Stevie wrote way better memorable classics for other acts"
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tell me something good>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sugar walls.

you are my heaven against most of them songs prince gave to others.



personally its a insult to even have Prince mention in the same sentence as Stevie Wonder.


Prince music ain't aged that well eiher. some of it still hits, however alot of his stuff is coaster wear.

Stevie's music fills the glass, Prince's music you use for the coasters.

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58. "but i do love Prince's first three albums"
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they are my favorites of Prince's discography.

  

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63. "Stevie did. But Prince is my favorite."
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106. "looking back..was the freaky sex dude a gimmick???"
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Stevie didn't have to sell us anything in order for folks to be into him
He just has damn good music
But that wasn't enough for PRN
Prince felt like he had to find something to get noticed, lucked out on the freaky, weird, androgynous sex dude thing and ran with it.

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107. "Stevie had gimmicks."
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He was sold as a child genius.

Then he was sold as a one man band.

Then he was the Black singer/songwriter.

Then he was a good will ambassador.

fuck you.

  

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108. "None generated by Stevie "
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Most generated by his label to sell records

The good will ambassador a gimmick?

Dude damn near got the MLK holiday almost singlehanded

Prince put that image together

He's still trying to sell us gimmicks

Unfortunately


But I get what you're saying

Would he Stevie have been noticed without the label focusing on those points...I think so

His songs are THAT good

Prince might not have made it without his angle

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109. "i dunno that Stevie wouldve hit as big without gimmickry and promotion."
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Plenty musicians have made AWESOME music but failed to sell records. And they're largely lost to history. Stevie is so revered in part bc he had a huge machine promoting him. And that machine is known to have resorted to shadiness (payola) and gimmicks to sell records. It wasn't just about the quality of his music. Without that machine he wouldn't have sold so many millions of records and wouldn't have had the opportunities to make as much music and have it heard.

And yes, much of P's image is contrived. He definitely worked the sexy freak thing to sell records. It worked. But he is revered bc his music was of such high quality. Plenty acts worked gimmicks like his but they're lost to history bc they didn't have the music to back up the gimmicks.

fuck you.

  

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114. "all big acts have had a gimmicky IMO"
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and alot of acts got the songs and talent. all major acts on a major label had big loot on them period.

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111. "Prince ain't nothing but one big ole gimmick and yeah"
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that turkey back in the day wanted to be ROn Jeremy and then turned into Billy graham. couldn't seem to keep up the routine forever.

you feel like you been had because Prince basically done morphed into Wayne Brady funk lite and been trying to be cool.

Prince tried to play Fonzi cool, however he is more Carlton Banks in hindsight.

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118. "well, yeah."
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but I think the difference with late '70s/'80s Prince is that the persona was very closely tied to the music itself.

like it was part of the performance.
Prince's songwriting is such (IMO) that he could have Holland-Dozier-Holland-ed it and he'd still be GOAT class

but really, if some "regular looking" dude did a song like "Controversy" I don't think it would make sense.

that's also why, years-past-his-prime Prince disappoints more often than not. there's been a disconnect with his image and his music ever since ... well, Graffiti Bridge if we want to keep it funky but to be more kind, around the time he and Warner Bros. parted.

Basa says it all the time. he looks like a BAMMA now.
(so does Stevie, and his stylist needs his ass whipped, but that's neither here nor there)

with Prince, that's a BIGGER deal than some tend to think.

I think Dirty Mind flat doesn't work if Prince ain't out there with the "gimmick"

  

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120. "RE: well, yeah."
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>but I think the difference with late '70s/'80s Prince is that
>the persona was very closely tied to the music itself.
>
>like it was part of the performance.
>Prince's songwriting is such (IMO) that he could have
>Holland-Dozier-Holland-ed it and he'd still be GOAT class
>
>but really, if some "regular looking" dude did a song like
>"Controversy" I don't think it would make sense.
>
>that's also why, years-past-his-prime Prince disappoints more
>often than not. there's been a disconnect with his image and
>his music ever since ... well, Graffiti Bridge if we want to
>keep it funky but to be more kind, around the time he and
>Warner Bros. parted.
>
>Basa says it all the time. he looks like a BAMMA now.
>(so does Stevie, and his stylist needs his ass whipped, but
>that's neither here nor there)
>
>with Prince, that's a BIGGER deal than some tend to think.
>
>I think Dirty Mind flat doesn't work if Prince ain't out there
>with the "gimmick"


This^^^^is pretty intriguing stuff....I think there is some truth here...

In terms of gimmicks, both Stevie and Prince were not shy about embracing their respective hooks....I do believe that Prince's "thing" added to his mystique more than Stevie's blind musical shaman thing...

But in terms of Prince's "BAMMA"ness, I truly believe that boils down to who he has been surrounding himself with....The Plectrum Electrum album was just some painful shit...The AOA was moving in the right direction...very "Princey"....But then he had to go BAMMA it up with this HitNRun shit....

To me it's less about his image and style and more on the caliber of musicians that he has been surrounding himself with these days....I was not shocked at all during that recent Paisley Park with Madonna in the first row that he switched up the drummer (ol' girl has gotten better; but she ain't funky...) and the bass player (oddly enough I like Ida)...But really Prince needs to just ditch that Josh kid and start believing again in his own mojo....

All this to say, at Prince's advanced state dude needs some real musical inspiration from members of his band....Every once in a while you will get a gem like "June"....But too much Romper Room bullshit for the most part....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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122. "ha ha ha Prince ain't in the same universe as no Holland,dozier and Holl..."
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what universe are we talking?

HDH had the songs and music but they were geared toward composing for other artists.

Prince ain't never been that kind of writer. better for what he use to be good at.

Prince never got beyond the groove aspect and his songwriting has continued to take a beaten.

that turkey been stuck in 1987 and nobody has missed anything from him in over 25 years and he knows it.

now if Prince could get his vocals straight and have a Holland,dozier and Holland give him some songs
and let him do his thing over it then that would be cool perhaps.

but nobody cares.

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123. "None of that works without the "gimmick""
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If Dirty Mind was called "Christian Mind" it wouldn't have worked lol
Part of his popularity is based on sexuality
Look at how many folks clowned him for deleting "nasty" Prince songs from his shows
Folks still mad he doesn't perform Darling Nikki or Erotic City anymore
Like what if Darling Nikki was about his gold fish..would it still work? Prob not lol

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125. "thats why Prince done fell off one of the reasons"
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turkey removed who he was
and without that, that turkey ain't got much going on.

i knew folks back in 88 saying they were tired of him because he got all self righteious. imagine them and their thoughts on him since?

he basically was a one trick pony. he never grew as a songwriter and its hurt his brand beyond being seen as a oldies but goodies act

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115. "A sensitive fan couldn't handle Prince losing in a poll so"
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lets turn our attention to MJ in a MJ vs Stevie poll for him

  

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116. "it was B2k time in here for Prince, and his fans they got served"
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and blown out. got that butt tore up. not even close but then again it shouldn't be because Prince ain't in the same galaxy as no Stevie wonder musically.

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124. "Stevie by a zillion miles..."
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...however, Prince was a much more "edgy" and "interesting" artist in his prime whereas Stevie is more of a great craftsman. NORMALLY, I prefer the edgy and interesting over the craft but there are a handful of artists who have injected so much spirit and personality of their own into their craftmanship that they manage to transcend the craftmanship artist.

For example, people like McCartney, Elton John or Yngwie Malmsteen have NOT managed to transcend it; they are merely-yes, *merely*-about craft for its own sake-people like Stevie, brian Wilson or hendrix on te oter end have.

And while it's rare, people who achieve that combo are unbeatable.

Regardless of his skills as a musician, Prince never struck me as a craftsman, more a "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks"-type dude. Sometimes, it works and then it's amazing as evidenced by a good deal of his 80's albums starting with "Dirty mind" (which I like just as much as most-NOT all-Stevie records). After "Sign..." it didn't. I'm not the type of dude who wants to argue why so I leave that to the stans...

  

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126. "right on Man"
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exactly Because Prince can't find that Brush stroke again
and his paint went crusty.

Stevie got the most out of everything
and his work stuck. Prince is one of those acts you had to have been their to get, because unless you are into him, you will find him as a extreme.

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127. "disney not an extreme, which is why no one will say Bad is trash"
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but it is.

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128. "I said it..back then and now"
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>
>but it is.

after 1984 the zeitgeist in music had changed but MJ and Q were still on that same broken freeway lane

  

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129. "dude has repeated P fell off after 88 so much, MJ shit get a pass"
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MJ's shit was absolutely awful after thriller.

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130. "had enough of this garbage MJ's dangerous>>>>>>>all Prince"
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90's albums til now.

and MJ's Stranger in Moscow better than any Prince song over the past 2 decades.

and FYI MJ run from 78-91>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Prince Ok.

Prince been Hot Garbage for well over his Overrrated CAREER.

aside from the 80's that turkey is vastly Overrated.

70's era Prince was just an Ok 3 tier act.

90's til now he barely Lenny Kravtiz level.


MJ was Badd in the 60's,70's and 80's.

hit and miss from the 90's onward.

but here is the thing even if you hate after "thriller" he still made
an Album that Prince never could match and MJ Owned the whole world

scary part Off the wall was more gangsta.

Prince ain't never seeing those albums.

MJ Albums in his Prime and Peak were like the Godfather
and Prince's never matched up.

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134. "No Q, no nothing...just a crazy man-child. "
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138. "yeah Quincy was killing it post MJ"
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funny at Q doing His Grey Panther party version of New Jack Swing yeah Ok pal keep dreaming

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132. "MJ and Q made History turkeys"
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how in the world you hating turkeys sound?

back to Back classic albums which rivaled the Godfather of Music making.


after 84 Prince turned a nerdy geeky cornball 60's oldies but goodies radio station.

you turkeys ain't got a leg to stand on against no MJ at all and i see
Bed Sores up in here because the total board don't lie, Stevie Wonder lit that Booty up
and i see these turkeys got bed sores
and frustrated,

MJ tore that Purple turkey up as well.

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135. "OTW and Thriller yes but MJ was scared of Princes talent"
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>after 84 Prince turned a nerdy geeky cornball 60's oldies but
>goodies radio station.
>
>y

nah--Prnce changed music like Miles Davis did

an astounding body of wotk post 84 with this run: ATWIAD..Parade..a sea change of ny class..timeless music

SOTT...what any artists hopes to achieve in ones lifetime...more diverse in style than even SITKOL even..yeah I said it

and a Zappa-esque Lovesexy

meanwhile MJ and Q were trying to make Bad and they did and it was lolol...

I know its hard to swallow for an MJ stan, etc but its truth


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137. "that's all there is to it. "
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>nah--Prnce changed music

all MJ did was change celebrity. he was a visual artist. his sound was fluff.

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140. "Prince had a run, MJ had a career big difference"
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Minneapolis sound was happening 81-85 however MJ had a career. and to put it in perspective Prince is far removed from what he was that the turkey is embarassed to display that garbage on youtube
or toetube or facetube.

turkey been a vegas lounge act for 20 years and knows without that run ain't much their. MJ is timeless with his music.

let Prince play his stuff from the past 25 years for a whole hour
and watch the local taco bell parking lot empty and that is about the only place he could pack if he don't bring his best stuff.

Prince tried to do everything that MJ did. visual? Prince made all them wack movies and plenty of cornball videos and a walking symbol fool been on all kinds of gimmickys that David Copperfield ain't brought to life yet.

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139. "i want your drug dealers name.Prince ain't do what Miles did"
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what great talented band has Prince ever played with seeing a Herbie or a Chic then later a Michael Henderson or a Wayne Shorter??


ask Jooni Mitchell about Prince changing the game? she put that in check long ago,


Prince was what he said he was about Jamie Starr a Great thief.

however that turkey ain't never change nothing and at best the early 80's with his Synth sound. however he didn't have no hand in Rap, New Jack Swing or the G Funk era.

Sign is a cool album,however it ain't like that album wasn't on borrowed time.

IMO 1982 was Prince's best artistic year and he never came anywhere near that level again. he had moments of some songs,but he had it right back then.

and again Off the wall and thriller alone are better than over 90% of most artists best stuff so miss me with trying to down play all that.

Bad was cool,however when you turned the joint out with those previous what else are you gonna go but down?

and Prince stans are the worse because in the real world Prince ain't counted since 87 with some sprinkles here and there since. but he been washed up for 2 decades plus change

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152. "Prince changed music. And later, the industry. sorry, its true"
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>what great talented band has Prince ever played with seeing
>a Herbie or a Chic then later a Michael Henderson or a Wayne
>Shorter??
>
>
>ask Jooni Mitchell about Prince changing the game? she put
>that in check long ago,
>
>
>Prince was what he said he was about Jamie Starr a Great
>thief.
>
>however that turkey ain't never change nothing and at best the
>early 80's with his Synth sound. however he didn't have no
>hand in Rap, New Jack Swing or the G Funk era.
>
>Sign is a cool album,however it ain't like that album wasn't
>on borrowed time.
>
>IMO 1982 was Prince's best artistic year and he never came
>anywhere near that level again. he had moments of some
>songs,but he had it right back then.
>
>and again Off the wall and thriller alone are better than over
>90% of most artists best stuff so miss me with trying to down
>play all that.
>
>Bad was cool,however when you turned the joint out with those
>previous what else are you gonna go but down?
>
>and Prince stans are the worse because in the real world
>Prince ain't counted since 87 with some sprinkles here and
>there since. but he been washed up for 2 decades plus change

  

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158. "he had a sound that was happening yes, however he didn't change"
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no music unless jacking Sly Stone, Jimi Hendrix in spots,Little Richard,James Brown,Michael Jackson,santana,RIck James, and some others is to be rewarded?

and in the Industry he didn't do nothing at all except look a fool after he signed a stupid contract which he knew he couldn't fullfill.

Sam Cooke with his publishing,and handling his businss changed the game

Ray Charles owning his masters etc,, was a game changer

Teena Marie when she was underage and berry gordy had that bogus deal
and the courts made it illegal to under pay a kid act that was a change.

Michael Jackson Estate and the publishing co ownership with Sony was a big time game changer.

Smokey Robinson vice president and impact as a artist with Motown.

Prince ain't done nothing in the business that ain't been done at all except say what other acts do.

his selling his cds as sales for his tour was smart, however a cat liek Jimmy Buffett had a mail order thing with fans way back when,

ain't no turkey holding back on youtube or other services hardly smart.

business Wise and this is the only thing Jay Z has over Prince but its a wide gap.

if Prince is so smart then how does he get shucked and hustle by a turkey like Jay Z??

the purple ice cream truck stays trying to serve more than what is being offered.

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144. "Miles Davis classic albums in the 50's,60's and 70's"
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Prince in the 80's you could argue, but what else?
and Purple Kool aid ice cream truck drivers need not apply because that don't count.

Joe and Mary Public can't name a great album from Prince or think of it post 80's, he ain't in no Miles Davis league.

Shelia E was Prince's talent scout on alot of things he had. but Prince had a sound which was happening for a while, Miles had decades and styles of change and made it work and he wasn't around to explore.

nobody buys Prince and Rap, Raggae,Dance hall,blues,Jazz,

Miles did disney out of being bored and made it work.

Prince heads love to compare him with Great artists and when you bring in the stats, jewelry and impact then its back to the purple truck

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168. "Prince was/is equal to Miles/changed the music sphere like Miles did"
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>Prince in the 80's you could argue, but what else?
>and Purple Kool aid ice cream truck drivers need not apply
>because that don't count.
>
>Joe and Mary Public can't name a great album from Prince or
>think of it post 80's, he ain't in no Miles Davis league.
>
>Shelia E was Prince's talent scout on alot of things he had.
>but Prince had a sound which was happening for a while, Miles
>had decades and styles of change and made it work and he
>wasn't around to explore.
>
>nobody buys Prince and Rap, Raggae,Dance hall,blues,Jazz,
>
>Miles did disney out of being bored and made it work.
>
>Prince heads love to compare him with Great artists and when
>you bring in the stats, jewelry and impact then its back to
>the purple truck

  

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170. "on the real, you are a smart dude,but you i need your drug dealer"
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on this one.

what universe is Prince seeing some Miles Davis?

Prince had a time in the 80's, Miles had a time in the 50's,60's,70's.

Kind of Blue, Skectches of Spain, Jack Johnson, B***** Brew

please man. Miles was on a whole different plane than Prince.

only act with Miles Run IMO was Maybe Stevie WOnder.

and then again Miles with his versatile landscape was deeper
and I listen to both artists a whole lot,however

Miles on a different canvas.

had Prince moved to france and expanded his musical horizens then you might have a case, however nothing over the past 25 years from Prince is suggesting that at all.

Miles wasn't considered a cornball for 25 years of his career like Prince been

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131. "Bad better than anything that Prince put out after 87"
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and best believe if Prince made an Album like "Bad" He might actually have a career still as to being as a Oldies but goodies act.

Prince stans stay on that plea bargin tip,except that turkey's studio game stays revoked.

and Prince didn't last nowhere near as long as no MJ.

Prince didn't have that musically longevity.

without his 80's run mainly early to mid 80's, that turkey would be lucky to be an opening act for the Jets.

nobody cares about Prince's hits after "Kiss".

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133. "your man made trash without Q. get over it. "
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142. "yeah nobody cared about destiny or triumph"
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which MJ co wrote and produced and arranged on

or dangerous which had a remember the time which Q used the video set for tamia's "you put a move on my heart"

or MJ wrote a "stranger in Moscow" post Q.

yeah you on fire with that or that little thing called the Jackson 5 career before Q. 69-78 oh but that never happen? yeah you are on the mark with this one.

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146. "gotta give it to Triumph..that was as good as Thriller imo "
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if Billy Jean and Wanna isnt on Thriller, Triumph..well..triumphs it lol


>which MJ co wrote and produced and arranged on
>
>or dangerous which had a remember the time which Q used the
>video set for tamia's "you put a move on my heart"
>
>or MJ wrote a "stranger in Moscow" post Q.
>
>yeah you on fire with that or that little thing called the
>Jackson 5 career before Q. 69-78 oh but that never happen?
>yeah you are on the mark with this one.

  

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136. "nah..Lovesexy better and Diamond and Pearls = Bad"
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Lovesexy beasts boring Bad by leaps and bounds. The production alone. Bad sounds tinny and if it was made by pro-tools before there even was pro-tools

I think if he had someone else produce the songs it would have been better and more oomph. Another Part Of Me is great yes, but it sounds 'lite' to me. Bad too. It needs more bottom overall

Dance On sound is needed

Annastesia however also needs more oomph too though...more bottom or something..that sonds lite too

  

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141. "Lovesexy was overproduced and under writen"
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hmmm the blueprint that became a theme of his sinking and talk about needing a producer, Prince then could have used one easily.

alot of the material on that album was all busy and no flow at all.

dance on sounded like Clap On.Prince tried to hard
and thats why on that tour, so many empty seats,i saw that show.

Bad had more cuts than Lovesexy.diamonds and pearls was corny as was batman and graffti bridge.'

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143. "Nah..."
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Bad only had one "bad" song in "Just Good Friends"

Both Lovesexy and Diamonds & Pearls have multiple songs not on the level of
the bulk of Bad.
"Eye No" (pretty sure most of this board would say this was trash is it was released TODAY)
"Lovesexy"
"Dance On"
"Jughead" alone damn near kills D&P's chances of competing lol, but ain't nobody on
here talkin about "Push" either. I've seen that alotta the posters dislike "Daddy Pop"
but I actually love that one, so I won't include it.
I'll give you D&P as a competitor tho, simply because it has more songs than Bad
despite having more duds... most of D&P is GREAT imo.
You don't see MJ slip on that many songs until Dangerous as Bad is still an album
full of obvious hits.
Prince released much more music that MJ tho, so I tend to give him more of a pass.

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145. "RE: Nah..."
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>Bad only had one "bad" song in "Just Good Friends"
>
>Both Lovesexy and Diamonds & Pearls have multiple songs not on
>the level of
>the bulk of Bad.
>"Eye No" (pretty sure most of this board would say this was
>trash is it was released TODAY)
>"Lovesexy"
>"Dance On"
>"Jughead" alone damn near kills D&P's chances of competing
>lol, but ain't nobody on
>here talkin about "Push" either. I've seen that alotta the
>posters dislike "Daddy Pop"
>but I actually love that one, so I won't include it.
>I'll give you D&P as a competitor tho, simply because it has
>more songs than Bad
>despite having more duds... most of D&P is GREAT imo.
>You don't see MJ slip on that many songs until Dangerous as
>Bad is still an album
>full of obvious hits.
>Prince released much more music that MJ tho, so I tend to give
>him more of a pass.

D&P
Gett Off
Money
L4L
Cream Strollin
Insatiable
Strollin
Willing and Able

all equal to Bad

he said post 87 doesnt hold a candle to Bad

Those songs do

and so do many on Batman and Graffitti Bridge

Joy In Rep alone is >>>>>>> Bad whole album

We Can Funk..

Electric Chair

Thieves

Positivity...Positivity alone ..lol

overall Bad was a ok

Max make it sound like Bad was Off The Wall quality and every song was A+ and all Prince songs were For You album level

  

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147. "SLow down man, you not even reading whole posts"
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>>I'll give you D&P as a competitor tho, simply because it has
>>more songs than Bad
>>despite having more duds... most of D&P is GREAT imo.

>
>D&P
>Gett Off
>Money
>L4L
>Cream Strollin
>Insatiable
>Strollin
>Willing and Able
>
>all equal to Bad
>
>he said post 87 doesnt hold a candle to Bad
>
>Those songs do




Yeah I said that already, check the above quote and your response to it lol



>and so do many on Batman and Graffitti Bridge


Batman is cool, but Graffiti Bridge ain't in the conversation lol.... too many duds.
It has a couple or awesome songs, but as an album? No


>Joy In Rep alone is >>>>>>> Bad whole album


It's a great song... but still one song.


>We Can Funk..


Is an okay song.


>Electric Chair


Ok, I think the Batman album is worth a comparison to Bad... no bullshit.
That's a strong ass album with no filler imo. I might actually say it's better than Bad.


>Thieves


That's the other really good song on Graffiti Bridge.
You can pretty much toss the rest out.


>Positivity...Positivity alone ..lol


I like Positivity... it's one of the better songs on the album.



>Max make it sound like Bad was Off The Wall quality and every
>song was A+ and all Prince songs were For You album level
>

Lol, the consistency of Bad is there aside from Just Good Friends. The Prince projects
mentioned don't have that aside from Batman, which like I said, is probably better
than Bad imo.

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149. "Batman is about 2.5 songs of interest at best"
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left over coaster material and ain't none of those songs on that album seeing no "Man in the Mirror" or leave me alone IMO.

the way you make me feel is a well crafted song period.

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148. "like i said after 87 Prince was toast"
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batman had a couple of decent songs, but largely forgettable.

graffti Bridge was Prince's poor attempt at a Quincy Jones "Back on the Block", the title track Graffti Bridge was Horible that even Olan Mills refused that as a theme song.
that was on that Bob Hope Soft Funk tip.


joy in rep was a tight cut though it goes back to the mid 80's which supports the point about him peaked and done after a while.


Diamonds and Pearl was cornball desperation of the worst order.

only song on their that is tight IMO is Money don't matter 2 night" and that has more to do with the groove.

the title track works because of Rosie Gaines without her that mess would be mixed doubles tennis with the Arms of Orion.

Prince had more skips than a Kangaroo in a open field.


his stuff after 87 ain't For You level, however they ain't B Side of his better stuff either.

he was cluttered and heavy handed with much of what was on their and that stuff didn't hold up well at all.

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155. "nahThe Gold Experience better than Bad and Dangerous "
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except Remember The Time

>batman had a couple of decent songs, but largely
>forgettable.
>
>graffti Bridge was Prince's poor attempt at a Quincy Jones
>"Back on the Block", the title track Graffti Bridge was
>Horible that even Olan Mills refused that as a theme song.
>that was on that Bob Hope Soft Funk tip.
>
>
>joy in rep was a tight cut though it goes back to the mid
>80's which supports the point about him peaked and done after
>a while.
>
>
>Diamonds and Pearl was cornball desperation of the worst
>order.
>
>only song on their that is tight IMO is Money don't matter 2
>night" and that has more to do with the groove.
>
>the title track works because of Rosie Gaines without her that
>mess would be mixed doubles tennis with the Arms of Orion.
>
>Prince had more skips than a Kangaroo in a open field.
>
>
>his stuff after 87 ain't For You level, however they ain't B
>Side of his better stuff either.
>
>he was cluttered and heavy handed with much of what was on
>their and that stuff didn't hold up well at all.
>
>

  

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159. "nobody outside of Purple world cares about no overproduced"
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Gold experience. another over produced under written slurp fest.

title track sounds like a broke purple rain meets a broke Bon Jovi track.

and naw dawg ain't nothing on that album seeing no Bad or dangerous.

i like "Dolphin" in a whimsical way. I hate u was cool though all his slow cuts all sound the same,but naw another desperate attempt at appeal
and it fell flat.

outside Purple world, nobody was talking about that playa

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163. "this is getting weird"
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no matter what anyone states positive, you will always say something negative

or will say the opposite

like its 2002 again

>Gold experience. another over produced under written slurp
>fest.
>
>title track sounds like a broke purple rain meets a broke Bon
>Jovi track.
>
>and naw dawg ain't nothing on that album seeing no Bad or
>dangerous.
>
>i like "Dolphin" in a whimsical way. I hate u was cool though
>all his slow cuts all sound the same,but naw another desperate
>attempt at appeal
>and it fell flat.
>
>outside Purple world, nobody was talking about that playa

  

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165. "Prince is OVERRATED and he didn't make a legit album"
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after sign o the times which itself has some major filler in their and it has some strong things.

if you don't dance with the purple bus then you can't ride, i know the game around here.

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171. "as long as he keeps ranking ahead of MJ in PEER-based polls"
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i'm good...

that's why you been aggy all thse years.

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172. "he ranks ahead in fake polls"
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ask Prince how important thriller was to Black Musicians?

not only did MJ make a artistic statement over Prince when they were at full peak and prime, but he opened and kicked the door wide open period.


most people know that Purple Rain was Prince's tribute album to MJ basically,same formula,etc..

MJ tore that turkey up and still does, even though both fell off and had better days, however MJ got him beat.

we each got a horse in this race so we can go those rounds makes me no difference.

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173. "he ranks ahead in ALL polls...you mad his superbowl show was better"
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talmbout the crowd went crazy because MJ stood there...LMAO!!!

that's because being a SPECTACLE was all he was ever great at. it was 90% of his MUSIC legacy.

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177. "only in purple polls,MJ was a stronger music pressence"
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a cat who turned it out as a kid to a adult had the goods period all the way. MJ SB show was better IMO.

Prince been doing Zoolander mean mugging and pouting for so long.

turkey be trying to hard as does his fans.

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182. "no one with a platform at a major media outlets think MJs was better"
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prince had the best SB performance ever.

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193. "i know many media folks who got MJ in a Blowout over Prince"
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and Prince's halftime show was overrated IMO.

Bruno Mars had a better one and he turned that one out

MJ set the standard. notice who got asked first? Nuff said.

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195. "all the MJ fans crying that their lip-syncing hero is 10th"
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http://www.billboard.com/articles/list/513793/10-best-super-bowl-halftime-shows?page=0%2C1

enjoy

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199. "this is what is a trip about Prince fans"
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when it makes them look good they dig up stats,however they go oh Prince is so indy and he is so this and that and yet that turkey wanted what MJ had and he never had it like that.

MJ rocked that stage and I don't need Billboard to rank what i feel.

however you are entitled to believe that.

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202. "no, MJ wanted what he had...peace of mind and artisic credibility"
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206. "MJ had that and more,Prince wanted what MJ had as well"
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MJ wrote classic songs check

made classic albums check

made classic tours check

multi decades of impact check

influenced and inspired generations
and eras check

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211. "too bad that's not true...MJ was never satisfied"
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and fans like you wouldn't let him be. always pushing him to make it 1984 again.

SMH.

that's why prince went left on purpose. that level of fame destroys a person.

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217. "wrong as usual, i was cool with MJ chilling"
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and matter of fact he didn't have to do anything else because paved the way, he was the game changer.

Prince got you fooled and badly. turkey being trying at a comeback and would give his paisley keys at it.

this turkey only 5 years back was hollering that Purple rain had sold as much as thriller.

he desperate at some attention,but the problem is nobody outside of purple diabetics care.

Prince is a Media Trick. running under Jay Z like He can bring him back?? HA HA that is the biggest L and joke on the planet.

if Prince had something legit then he could sell his cuts on his Paisley Park Lawn,however that turkey ain't got nothing
and he looking for Jigga to make him look cool,with more lame muzak.

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223. "you mad "ben" didn't win an oscar...'cause it's corny trash"
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225. "Ben is a Better song than Purple rain,however Prince"
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only had to beat the muppets out to get a token award oh well.

Lionel Richie won an Oscar for Say you,say me,what is your point?

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229. "my point is mike ain't got no damn oscar and he wanted one"
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oh well.

hard out here for a pimp better than wack ass ben, too.

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232. "no denying he wanted one. however if a tired over the top song"
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like Purple rain can get one, well that ain't saying much about no Oscar.most turkeys would rather have a oscar Meyer hot dog, than some ole crusty industry award. oh well.

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234. "cool...so industry awards don't matter...thanks. "
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236. "they are to feed the ego and fatten the labels"
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acts want to be appreciated, however what does it mean in hindsight?

i ain't cared about those things in many a moon, because there was a time when you had top tier talent battling for something,etc.. or so it seemed,however i will say that Michael Jackson made it important with the way he broke down barriers at those shows,because this is the truth he was very important that a black artist could go toe to toe with white pop acts. and the white media hated him for that.

but he dominated period.

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150. "nigga, the title track is trash...WTF?"
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see what i mean? niggas on this board seem incapable of being honest about mike. what y'all THAT scared of being called a turkey?

alphabet st. ALONE crushes all that lil boy man-child love song whimsy HORSESHIT!

the way you make me feel? some damn "you knock me offa my feet" (SAID UNIRONICALLY!!!) SMH...you niggas really let all that shit slide. nah, dogg...i'm not 10 no more. it's garbage.

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151. "they like Bad are very simplistic"
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>see what i mean? niggas on this board seem incapable of being
>honest about mike. what y'all THAT scared of being called a
>turkey?
>
>alphabet st. ALONE crushes all that lil boy man-child love
>song whimsy HORSESHIT!
>
>the way you make me feel? some damn "you knock me offa my
>feet" (SAID UNIRONICALLY!!!) SMH...you niggas really let all
>that shit slide. nah, dogg...i'm not 10 no more. it's garbage.
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156. "But you the one resorting to name-calling LOL... riiiiight."
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Sometimes less is more tho

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157. "well am I right or am I right? 'turkey'...lol"
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>Sometimes less is more tho

  

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167. "LMAO touche"
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161. "these Purple turkeys are roasting on the stove top"
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as they keep getting served.

they outta be smart and wave the purple towel

because in this thread Stevie Wonder waxing however naw lets go after MJ or somebody to get some sort of minor victory and start the usual Purple plea copping.

Prince fans do the usual

start plea bargining

start the tag of all he does

start what he went through
and all kinds of excuses, however Stevieland Morris Wonder
lit that turkey up on this here thread and it ain't even close.

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169. "cats don't wanna be honest about Prince"
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because they stuck in a time warp like its 1985
and the mystery and aura still is around,meanwhile those two things are in strip clubs
and Prince been broken down as a Oldies but goodies act.

Prince is a easy target because he brought it on himself with so much half baked albums and songs and whatever juice that turkey had, its long gone.

however a time warp has taken over where Prince is concearned.

MJ had down time
and to me while I like songs on HIstory and a few off of Invincible, Dangerous was his last tight stuff.

however after the one two punch of Off the wall and thriller or that jackson 5 run or jacksons run, who can possible live to that depth forever?

MJ started to settle however in his prime and peak he was whipping on turkeys with ease,it was him and then everybody else for a while.

Prince got talent,however he should have been able to make a statement from the 90's til now and he didn't.

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174. "and stevie shoulda been able to make a statement after Happy Birthday"
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everybody have their run.

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178. " Do I Do and that girl them two songs alone>>>>>>>>>>>Prince"
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90's til now.

if Prince had one of those two songs he wouldn't need no gimmicks.

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188. "LOL!!!"
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153. "Wipe the foam from your mouth and calm your raging ass down lol"
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Sun Oct-25-15 08:06 PM by Boogie Stimuli

          

The title track actually isn't my favorite, but it's "effective" as they say.
As for "The Way You Make Me Feel", you're totally missing why MJ is great if you're
looking for the most poetic lyrics from the guy. Groove, melody, arrangement, timing,
etc are what make that song, and it's pretty impeccable at all of them.
Also, this is entertainment, and MJ just happens to be much more entertaining than
Prince on purpose.

Alphabet St is, hands down, my favorite track on Lovesexy. I don't think anything else
there can hold a candle to it aside from "When 2 R N Love" (although from a previous project).
Yall keep on with this "one song >> entire Bad album" crap, which is silly.
Bad has Man In The Mirror which Prince would have loved to write, I'm sure, and
Smooth Criminal which the video alone (Michael Jackson's Vision) >>> Lovesexy AND
Prince's entire filmography lol

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160. "slow down...lovesexy is my favorite P album. period. "
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it's not a one song argument i'm making. it's a straight up better album than ALL of MJ's post-84 shit...it just is.

and i believe nostalgia keeps y'all from being honest about how poorly that shit aged. it's trash.

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164. "however Prince post 87 stuff is garbage"
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and the big difference is that when fell off he was pushing 20 years in his grind, Prince fell off within the same decade
and I don't wanna hear no pleas about him putting out more material

nobody told that turkey toover saturate the market with alot of cornball material.

back in 88 MJ shows were packed period.

Back in 88 Prince shows had hot air balloons covering the empty seats nuff said.

Prince ran out of hits and steam
and that is why that turkey after lovesexy went back to back with soundtracks
and then lets play nice with the media and public with Diamonds and Pearls. smooth calculated attempt at undoing the damage.

lovesexy would have been a decent EP at best,however outside of purple world
its a flat overproduced, under written
and not a memorable album. IMO

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154. "alphabet street was garbage a hot mess"
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the guitar parts were cool however that a rushed garbage cut and cat's rap was shaky and quick with no flow or fill.

the bad title track was better live, however on album it was weak Sauce IMO. MJ needed some punch on that cut no doubt and i never said otherwise,however live it works.

but i ain't impressed with that track like that. however don't be bringing no cornball crap like alphabet street as a means to get back.

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162. "everybody can't have A+ rapper like LTB on they tracks, my nigga"
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It's WACK, it's WHITE...it's tough for you to face how wack Mike was.

yeah, yeah, yeah...

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166. "Rick James on Lucy's rap with ROxanne Shante>>>>>>Prince"
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and Cat on Alphabet street.

and MJ with Biggie is nice IMO.

MJ and Heavy D and LL was cool.

the other MJ Rap Colabs hit and miss IMO.

However alphabet street is cornball to me.

it sounds like Fred and Lamont Sanford's truck won't start quite right.a true clunker.

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175. "yes but Stevie assembled those albums from a catalog of songs."
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I dunno what you're going on about with this 'craft' stuff. But it sounds like you're giving Stevie credit for putting those albums together with purpose/direction whereas P didn't. I dunno if that's what you mean but if so I don't agree bc I've read that Stevie recorded those songs found on MOMM through FFF mostly all at once and assembled the albums by choosing songs from a catalog/vault. They weren't necessarily made together to go together. When it was time for another album he (and Cecil/Margouleff) just chose from what he (they) had lying around. Of course, P has done some of that too.

As for P just throwing ideas at the wall vs Stevie - I dunno what that means. P is more 'experimental'? Versus Stevie with his synthsizer experiments. Hell, they both loved to tinker with new sounds and recording techniques. But neither was known to over produce except toward the ends of their respective runs - SOTT may be overproduced like SITKOL (but see Lovesexy vs. Secret Life of Plants for more over wrought production).

My position throughout this post has been that the quality of P's albums released between 1980 and 1987 roughly equals that of Stevie's released between 1970 and 1976. I don't agree that the quality of either output greatly outdoes that of the other. I can and have made lists of the weak songs found in each run - the numbers came out roughly equal. I can make another list of the strong songs and I expect that to also be about the same. So I can't choose one based on quality of output - I go with mood. Right now I'm still I a Prince mood. A few months ago it was Stevie. A few months from now it'll be Stevie again.

fuck you.

  

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176. "since the 90s..."
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everybody have their run.

prince has had a #1 album and 3 more top 5 albums since the 90s...stevie's had 1.

prince had the best super bowl performance and the best RRHOF performance since the 90s.

prince set a record at 02 arena that MJ was desperate to break...because he was ALWAYS concerned with what P did.

prince STILL breaking new artists, like judith hill, who went nowhere with MJ...she was a prop with MJ...prince brought her shine.

CELEBRITIES stand and cheer for prince for minutes on end when he walk on stage at award shows, unlike regular ol' fans did for MJ at that stiff circus clown spaceship goofy ass SB performance.

see, when the FACTS come out and we not just left with maxxx yelling TURKEY THIS AND TURKEY THAT...prince doing just fine.

just because P still doing his thing while bowie, sting, stevie and other geniuses have been effectively phonining it in since their zeniths, don't hold prince to a different standard.

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179. "since the 90's that turkey done bed hopped labels"
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gimmicks after another,turkey been pulling more tricks than at a sigfield and roy show,

nobody cares about his albums from the 90's til now.

you acting like Prince from the 90's til now is seeing R.kelly,Usher,Beyonce,Mary J.Bliege.


Prince ain't had no protege anybody has cared about since Shelia E. and even she could have been fine with or without Prince.

Judith has some talent, but you acting like she gonna morph into Brenda Russell or something? Naw. nobody cares about the Paisley rejcts.

Prince's super bowl show IMO is way Behind MJ and Bruno Mars.

the thing is most folks want is remasters and outtakes of strong quality from Prince's 80's hey day.nobody is checking for his 90's til now records that go stale with the quickness.

Prince been looking for a hit like Gator and halle in "Jungle Fever"

Stevie tore that butt up on the poll and in real life and it ain't even close at all.

Prince dropped all those costers.

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180. "some people bed hop labels, others bed hop producers"
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cause they wack on they own in a studio. facts.

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183. "you think "triumph" is wack?"
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>cause they wack on they own in a studio. facts.
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MJ and randy produced that album, without quincy jones.
so now MJ can't write, or produce,

even though he clearly can do both.


  

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189. "YES!!! it's WACK!"
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201. "the Jacksons>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the time albums"
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triumph alone whips the times albums combined.

MJ and randy alone smash on the time.


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204. "no one believes this. people party to jungle love, not that wack shit"
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207. "Heartbreak Hotel alone whips that mess"
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the jacksons made better albums. Destiny and triumph alone slay those time albums.

Jungle Love was cool
and that had more to do with Jessie Johnson,but those time cuts were mainly jams. its not like you talking about some standards or something.

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194. "Prince done went to pillow to post"
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at finding a label to bring back his wack career.

even Clive Davis couldn't land that turkey a hit.if clive can't find you a hit well you is jacked and wack now.

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196. "it's 2015...labels don't matter. he sell out shows."
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you talkin real old right now. that's ANOTHER thing prince gets credit for...pioneering new distribution models as far back as 1996. you can poo-poo it all you want, but the facts are easily accessible and i can post dozens of links.

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200. "that jive turkey put two albums out on warners last year"
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he still crying about labels what you talking about?

he ain't pioneered nothing. like Suge Knight once said about Prince and said it best,Prince plays all hood and down in the clubs
and then he goes back and walks with his head between his legs and resigns with them

lets see turkey since 96

Emanciapation was on Captiol

then this turkey signed with Arista

then this turkey did a indy release
and it bombed

and then he signed with Sony,

then with Universal

this turkey would have signed with Itchben if he could,

you acting like Prince ain't just kissed up and begged to be down with Jay Z?? which is the biggest "L" because Jay's thing is corny.

turkey on Roc Nation now.


he sells out shows because of his 80's hits, not because of that garbage Broke Go Go's band he has or that lame Production he allows on his wack records.

then this turkey put albums in newspapers and even the dogs wouldn't fetch them garbages.

when he was with warners the first time he was on point in the 80's
problem is he ran out of hits
and lost the goods and been cooked for years.

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