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2946953, RE: Stevie Wonder wins by a landslide
Posted by balloon, Sat Oct-10-15 11:44 AM
>>Prince can't even perform most of his songs without feeling
>>embarrassed today and he dosen't have the songs that touch
>>people on a emotional level like Stevie's material (expect
>for
>>Purple Rain)
>
>
>I mean...just say that's your opinion...And I can respect
>that. But I've seen your other posts about Prince,
>homie....Basically what I'm saying is once YOU started
>agreeing that P's best '80s work cannot even fuck with
>Stevie's 80's (which while underrated is iniversally viewed as
>a few notches below his GOAT work from the past decade) it's
>damn near impossible to take you seriously....U basically
>showed your hand on some Maxx-lite shit...lol
>

Where did you get this?? I've said i prefer 80s Stevie to 90s Prince. Are you making stuff up to try to make my post less valid or not reading? And you haven't really responded to what I've said about Prince not being able to perform most of his songs without feeling embarrassed

>
>But lets not generalize.....From "How Come You Don't Call Me
>Anymore" to "The Beautiful Ones" to "Adore," of course he has
>songs that touch people emotionally....lol....Just say they
>don't touch YOU....
>
>
>>And Prince' Manic Monday can't compete with the songs Stevie
>>Wonder wrote for other artists..
>
>Again...I can dig that if that's YOUR opinion.....
>
>>Prince has never come up with something as good as Tell me
>>Something Good or I can't help it for an Mj or Chaka.
>
>U mean he didn't come up with something as "black" as "Tell Me
>Something Good?" All I know is Prince could go from "777-9311"
>to "Nasty Girl" to writing a groove for a fucking Stevie Nicks
>hit ("Stand Back") cranking out a bluesy church joint for
>Patti Labelle ("Yo Mister") and then do some poppy R&B for
>Tevin Campbell....He didn't need to make a "I Can't Help It"
>(which is fucking brilliant BTW...My favorite song on Off The
>Wall...Stevie was on some other shit...)....He could knock out
>a "Glamorous Life" for another artist and then make a "Ballad
>Of Dorthy Parker" for himself, which is every bit is dope as
>"Tell Me..." or "I Can't Help..."
>

I'm talking about songs written for other established artists not for the proteges. Prince has written songs for a lot of talented artists from Celine Dion to Chaka to No Doubt yet most of them didn't stick. You think if Stevie Wonder had written an entire album for Chaka it would've been as bad as what Prince did with her???
Stevie got a better track record with writing songs for established artist without even trying as often as Prince
and "I Can't help it" is better than anything Prince wrote for anyone imo

>U could make a greatest hits out of the man's Vault
>outtakes....
>

Not really.. unless hits mean something different to you...


>
>>Stevie is just on another level man..
>>as a singer, songwriter and producer.. even Prince would
>tell
>>you this.. stop playing man.
>
>
>Man...get the entire fuck out of here with this silly
>shit....lol
>
>As a singer Stevie indeed beats P...But after that the battle
>is fierce and close.....I think it's a wash on
>songwriting....Production, I give a slight edge to Stevie
>because P usually dominates his aura and sound on other acts
>while Stevie is more subtle.....
>


Battle fierce and close in the singing category?? You're probably in the minority here
and which music aged better Prince's or Stevie's to you?? be honest
As for songwriting.. Prince always been stuck in Prince world writing his songs. That's why a lot of his songs don't resonate with the masses... Stevie on the other hand saw the world better than Prince despite being blind and wrote songs that more people could relate and connect to. Even his former engineer thought Stevie was a messenger and said he may be the greatest songwriter of all time.


>But I'll take P's overall musicianship and prime stage show
>over Stevie's....
>

That's a though one which is why I haven't said anything about Stevie being a better musician.. but if you want to compare with each instruments...
Guitar : Prince wins easy of course
Drums : Stevie wins easy
Piano and Synth : Stevie
Bass : probably Prince but they both have different style of bass playing
even in this departement I'd go with Stevie after comparing but you can't go one way or another.. it's close
As far as live performing goes.. that's dosen't really have much to do with the topic and Prince got an advantage there because he's not blind

>To me they are 1a/1b....U can't go wrong with either one....
>
>But I'm giving u the side-eye for your "hate, hate, hate" Maxx
>impersonation....I laughed though....
>
>

I've said i prefer Stevie's 80s output to Prince's 90s and onward which is no hate just the truth.