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"Prometheus (Scott, 2012) (SPOILERS)"
Thu May-31-12 10:01 PM by ZooTown74

  

          

The trailer is all fucked up but from what I COULD SEE it looks dope. Also like how they did the title with the very first Alien.
http://youtu.be/3idSf4q2fVI

Article and pics:
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/11/23/prometheus-ridley-scott-first-look/

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=22024

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America from 9:00 on: https://youtu.be/GUwLCQU10KQ

  

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From what I can tell, looks like it may be dope.
Nov 27th 2011
1
I loved this movie. Start to finish
Jun 11th 2012
226
Holy Shit
Nov 27th 2011
2
RE: Holy Shit
Nov 27th 2011
3
      RE: Holy Shit
Nov 29th 2011
6
           RE: Holy Shit
Nov 29th 2011
9
           RE: Holy Shit
Nov 29th 2011
10
           everybody forgets matchstick men when discussing 2000s ridley.
Nov 30th 2011
11
                i liked that movie.
Nov 30th 2011
12
                his last great role...well...that and port of call new orleans.
Nov 30th 2011
14
                     Yeah he was great in that.
Nov 30th 2011
15
                     NOW SWIIIITCH! TO KYRPTOLIIIIIIIIGHT!
Mar 20th 2012
44
                I always forget about this movie
Nov 30th 2011
13
                     ?
Dec 22nd 2011
18
                          Me trying to sound educated when I'm high always = fail
Mar 20th 2012
42
So yeah this is an Alien prequel...(BIG MOTHERFUCKING SPOILERS NIGGAS!!!...
Nov 28th 2011
4
It has not been confirmed, the article/breakdown on
Nov 29th 2011
5
if Scott blows this one, I think we can write him off for good
Nov 29th 2011
7
logan marshall green looks like cmdr shepard in that EW pic.
Nov 29th 2011
8
Trailer to premiere in front of Dragon Tattoo. Online Thursday.
Dec 20th 2011
16
Official Trailer:
Dec 22nd 2011
17
Nice! Going to be a helluva summer
Dec 22nd 2011
19
fuuuuck this looks so fresh
Dec 22nd 2011
21
How are they saying this is not an Alien prequel when...
Dec 22nd 2011
20
a couple of possible reasons
Dec 22nd 2011
23
this could easily be a Mass Effect or Halo trailer
Dec 22nd 2011
22
New Trailer
Mar 17th 2012
24
IMAX Trailer
Mar 17th 2012
25
Goddamn. Best trailers ive seen in a minute
Mar 17th 2012
27
      homie, that music at the end, with the repeating alarm?
Mar 18th 2012
33
           Was stuck in my head all wknd
Mar 19th 2012
37
HOLY Shit, young I had no clue it was like this
Mar 17th 2012
28
best trailer in recent memory. bodies the avengers one easily.
Mar 19th 2012
41
count ME in....n/m
Mar 17th 2012
26
*runs in*
Mar 17th 2012
29
HA!
Jun 07th 2012
106
Yeah. I'm there.
Mar 18th 2012
30
you already know
Mar 18th 2012
31
I'm with you. I read an article that spoiled something.
Mar 19th 2012
38
      Inbox me what said man nm
Mar 19th 2012
39
           I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave.
Mar 20th 2012
43
& now the international trailer just in case
Mar 18th 2012
32
wow, looks great
Mar 19th 2012
34
i'm in, but i'm thoroughly confused
Mar 19th 2012
35
RE: i'm in, but i'm thoroughly confused
Mar 19th 2012
36
      ahh i see
Mar 19th 2012
40
           I just want to point out that
Apr 29th 2013
363
                HAHA. nice
Apr 29th 2013
364
New Viral Video: Happy Birthday David
Apr 17th 2012
45
that was great
Apr 17th 2012
46
New International Trailer. I need this movie to come out already
Apr 29th 2012
47
Seriously...
Apr 29th 2012
48
fuck.
Apr 29th 2012
49
Ridicleyous
Apr 29th 2012
50
i mean damn.
Apr 29th 2012
51
They're showing too much
Apr 30th 2012
52
it is a trailer
Apr 30th 2012
53
I agree regarding this trailer
Apr 30th 2012
54
      Exactly, like right now I already know me and Scott were deadwrong
Apr 30th 2012
55
           I thought it was pretty awesome...
Apr 30th 2012
56
           which is why you don't watch previews lol
May 09th 2012
68
I refuse to watch ANY more trailers..
May 04th 2012
57
This looks like an Alien ripoff.
May 06th 2012
62
      Can you rip off your own shit?
May 06th 2012
63
They should change the name of this film to "Stringer in Space"
May 04th 2012
58
with a Southern accent
May 05th 2012
59
      He's selling off his packages in SPACE
May 05th 2012
60
           oh inDEED
May 05th 2012
61
GOT MY PRESS SCREENING ON JUNE 6TH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 07th 2012
64
NOICE
May 14th 2012
74
Gets an R rating
May 07th 2012
65
YUP!!!!!!!!!!!
May 07th 2012
66
del Toror speaks!!!!
May 07th 2012
67
#HYPE HYPE HYPE
May 09th 2012
69
New featurette
May 09th 2012
70
I knew I heard that whistle from somewhere
May 13th 2012
71
About two weeks from it's Euro release
May 14th 2012
72
I can't wait I'm over in the UK right now.
May 14th 2012
73
Now here's a question. 3D or not?
May 15th 2012
75
for me the answer is always no.
May 16th 2012
76
It was shot in 3D
May 16th 2012
77
anyone who doesn't see this in 3D should eat shit.
May 16th 2012
78
Goddamn nigga that's a little much...nm
May 16th 2012
79
I didn't say "and die." respect my mellow.
May 16th 2012
81
my nigga.
May 16th 2012
80
3D didn't add much.
Jun 10th 2012
184
      I hate you and everything you claim to represent
Jun 12th 2012
254
IMAX 3D or you're a buster. I trust Ridley completely with this.
May 17th 2012
84
Profile of Dr. Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace) (link)
May 16th 2012
82
I think I finally need to see the original Girl With the Dragon Tattoo
May 17th 2012
83
      Remember its all in Swedish so that accent isnt' there at all!!
May 17th 2012
85
DAMN IT!!!!
May 23rd 2012
86
#humblebrag
May 23rd 2012
87
      GODDAMN. This Bugatti didn't come with the 21 inch rims
May 23rd 2012
88
Another reason to be excited for this shit
May 25th 2012
89
Early reviews are IN
May 30th 2012
90
Seeing this tomorrow..can't wait
May 31st 2012
91
I saw it a few hours ago
May 31st 2012
92
Fuck. I loved it
Jun 01st 2012
93
Tomnorrow night niggas!!!
Jun 05th 2012
94
Stephen A Smith Prometheus commercials are testing my commitment
Jun 05th 2012
95
lol. Of all people why him?
Jun 05th 2012
96
I'm excited to see Fassy...he's 1 of the great ones.
Jun 06th 2012
97
He kills it too. Easily the best performance
Jun 07th 2012
100
I loved it...
Jun 06th 2012
98
So yeah it's an Alien prequel that starts a new franchise (SPOILERS)
Jun 06th 2012
99
Huge *SPOILER*in my reply that you will read below
Jun 07th 2012
101
This is what i was wondering
Jun 07th 2012
103
Didn't they get attacked also? In one scene the engineers
Jun 07th 2012
105
      yeah
Jun 08th 2012
111
That is how I took it
Jun 07th 2012
104
i didn't tie that angle in. thank you
Jun 10th 2012
190
good review but (SPOILERS)
Jun 07th 2012
102
agreed But Im mad they didn't show
Jun 10th 2012
191
      Very true...
Jun 11th 2012
219
How did homie from Dark Blue get in this?...seems like a left field choi...
Jun 07th 2012
107
i predict equal amounts of love and hate for this movie...(spoilers)
Jun 08th 2012
108
i only have one question
Jun 08th 2012
109
terrible
Jun 08th 2012
110
      ^^^terribly wrong
Jun 09th 2012
134
           I know, right?
Jun 09th 2012
138
           a man who says Charlize looked terrible in them suites
Jun 10th 2012
192
SPOILERS
Jun 08th 2012
112
lol
Jun 08th 2012
114
Accurate...
Jun 09th 2012
128
Question, how soon does the black guy die?
Jun 08th 2012
113
He served us well.
Jun 08th 2012
115
      The Asian dude too
Jun 08th 2012
116
saw it last week, not bad...
Jun 08th 2012
117
three words: WHITE PEOPLE CURIOSITY
Jun 08th 2012
118
fist pump
Jun 08th 2012
120
^^^
Jun 09th 2012
152
Elba: stayed on ship. Asian: stayed on ship.
Jun 10th 2012
170
More thriller than horror, thought it was fine (SPOILERS)
Jun 08th 2012
119
Anyone who complains about the set-up is a dummy.
Jun 10th 2012
168
screenplay was bleh.
Jun 08th 2012
121
foh. avengers was a horribly written pos.
Jun 08th 2012
122
one of the most visually arresting movies of this era.
Jun 08th 2012
123
I agree heavily with this
Jun 09th 2012
130
looked amazing. plot/story was very thin.
Jun 08th 2012
124
visuals: 9/10 plot: 2/10
Jun 08th 2012
125
i'd give the plot more of a 5 or 6 out of 10.
Jun 08th 2012
126
Kinda surprised at the antipathy it's recieving
Jun 08th 2012
127
Just saw it...(SPOILERS for sure)
Jun 09th 2012
129
someone please answer this
Jun 09th 2012
131
RE: someone please answer this
Jun 09th 2012
132
this nukka said buff Powder lol
Jun 09th 2012
133
      RE: this nukka said buff Powder lol
Jun 09th 2012
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           RE: this nukka said buff Powder lol
Jun 09th 2012
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           RE: this nukka said buff Powder lol
Jun 09th 2012
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                RE: this nukka said buff Powder lol
Jun 09th 2012
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                     RE: this nukka said buff Powder lol
Jun 09th 2012
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                     RE: this nukka said buff Powder lol
Jun 10th 2012
158
                     I don't think they (we) knew that for sure
Jun 11th 2012
210
           I think y'all overthinking it (SPOILERS LIKE HELL)
Jun 09th 2012
143
                basically
Jun 10th 2012
193
RE: someone please answer this
Jun 09th 2012
136
Figured this was the main reason they were denying this being a prequel....
Jun 09th 2012
147
      Yep, it started as a prequel but they realized that they couldn't fix
Jun 10th 2012
176
      They're taken place on different planets.
Jun 10th 2012
187
           ok, one more thing then
Jun 10th 2012
188
                Honestly...
Jun 10th 2012
195
Liked it a lot. Think I might love it on a second viewing.
Jun 09th 2012
135
no idea why they didn't cast an older actor
Jun 09th 2012
145
      I didnt know benjamin button was gonna be in this
Jun 09th 2012
148
Cool interview with awful writer/cockteaser Damon Lindelof (SPOILERS)
Jun 09th 2012
139
dope interview.
Jun 09th 2012
149
I take issue with what he says here.
Jun 10th 2012
167
no it doesnt
Jun 10th 2012
194
Instead of an Alien prequel, I heard the sequel will bridge the gap w/
Jun 10th 2012
185
anyone notice the line...
Jun 09th 2012
144
I thought it was great
Jun 09th 2012
150
thought it was ok, not too bad, plot was meh,but
Jun 09th 2012
151
It was ok
Jun 09th 2012
153
Woulda liked it more if it WASN'T a prequel, frankly. (spoilers)
Jun 09th 2012
154
This review sums up my frustrations pretty hilariously:
Jun 09th 2012
155
Tom Hardy and Missy Oppossum
Jun 10th 2012
157
i really did think it was tom hardy up until i saw it.
Jun 10th 2012
160
ohh was that suppose to be funny?
Jun 10th 2012
201
what's becoming hilarious about prometheus
Jun 09th 2012
156
The difference between Lost and Prometheus is character.
Jun 10th 2012
164
^^^
Jun 10th 2012
173
      Well...
Jun 10th 2012
174
^
Jun 12th 2012
241
i really enjoyed this one, but a couple questions (SPOILERS)
Jun 10th 2012
159
RE: i really enjoyed this one, but a couple questions (SPOILERS)
Jun 10th 2012
161
RE: i really enjoyed this one, but a couple questions (SPOILERS)
Jun 10th 2012
162
      lol I could type 3 paragraphs about how
Jun 11th 2012
204
           ^^^ this! lol
Jun 11th 2012
205
Answers:
Jun 10th 2012
166
RE: Answers:
Jun 10th 2012
178
Possible point of contention on David's motivations:
Jun 11th 2012
224
all I would say (spoiler)
Jun 11th 2012
225
Best thing on the internet written about Prometheus:
Jun 10th 2012
163
The problem is that's not on the screen. (spoiler rebuttal)
Jun 10th 2012
165
RE: The problem is that's not on the screen. (spoiler rebuttal)
Jun 10th 2012
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RE: The problem is that's not on the screen. (spoiler rebuttal)
Jun 10th 2012
171
on a surface level, I don't see this as a problem
Jun 10th 2012
180
again wrong
Jun 10th 2012
199
I don't want things spelled out for me.
Jun 11th 2012
202
No snark, but besides the visuals, what was great about it?
Jun 12th 2012
233
this is exactly how i felt the whole time
Jun 12th 2012
231
i feel better about the movie having read this, but like Longo said
Jun 10th 2012
183
By the way, despite me being all up in this post...
Jun 10th 2012
172
Visually stunning storywise meh
Jun 10th 2012
175
So the guy in charge of mapping gets lost...
Jun 10th 2012
177
yes! the score annoyed me multiple times
Jun 10th 2012
179
RE: So the guy in charge of mapping gets lost...
Jun 11th 2012
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RE: So the guy in charge of mapping gets lost...
Jun 11th 2012
206
disappointing
Jun 10th 2012
181
SMS convo between Dr. Shaw and an Engineer:
Jun 10th 2012
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blah blah blah blah
Jun 10th 2012
197
I'm surprises no one here...
Jun 10th 2012
186
I thought about Sunshine a lot while & after watching it
Jun 10th 2012
189
This makes Sunshine look like 2001
Jun 10th 2012
196
      so sunshine is an over-rated visual orgy
Jun 10th 2012
198
this shit was great
Jun 10th 2012
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Its rare you can point only at the writers for ruining a movie
Jun 11th 2012
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something else bugs me
Jun 11th 2012
208
Because Scott was compelled to unite the Engineer and the alien.
Jun 11th 2012
209
seriously? the only reason?
Jun 11th 2012
220
RE: something else bugs me
Jun 11th 2012
211
io9: All of Your Lingering Prometheus Questions, Answered!
Jun 11th 2012
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When y'all stop* being mad at Lindelof, you should read the MTV emails
Jun 11th 2012
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I have been digging *ALL* of the spoilers
Jun 11th 2012
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I agree, I'm digging the discussion as well nm
Jun 11th 2012
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thing is, he didn't do a good job of putting these elements
Jun 11th 2012
228
*takes advice goes for a walk*
Jun 11th 2012
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RE: io9: All of Your Lingering Prometheus Questions, Answered!
Jun 11th 2012
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I really didn't care for Logan Marshall-Green's character
Jun 11th 2012
216
^^^ Translation: YOU MAD.....
Jun 11th 2012
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      seriously
Jun 11th 2012
223
The problem is that they opened with the answer
Jun 11th 2012
230
Greatest episode of Ancient Aliens ever.
Jun 11th 2012
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RE: Greatest episode of Ancient Aliens ever.
Jun 11th 2012
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this movie has given us the highest quality internet snark ever
Jun 11th 2012
227
i think people missed the whole point of the intro scene (spoiler)
Jun 12th 2012
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DNA doesn't really work like that though
Jun 12th 2012
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RE: DNA doesn't really work like that though
Jun 12th 2012
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      So it's fantasy.
Jun 12th 2012
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           SCIENCE fiction or science FICTION...
Jun 12th 2012
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                You started off by telling people they missed the point
Jun 12th 2012
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Why didn't it evolve Earth life into super powered creatures then?
Jun 12th 2012
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      I took it as one of two things...
Jun 12th 2012
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      you pretty much nailed it
Jun 12th 2012
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      RE: you pretty much nailed it
Jun 12th 2012
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           I never cared much for 2001
Jun 12th 2012
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      I wanted something in between these two points:
Jun 14th 2012
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           That can be a good thing
Jun 14th 2012
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      dinosaurs could've been those super creatures perhaps
Jun 13th 2012
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Interview w/ Ridley Scott: suggests Jesus Christ was an alien!
Jun 12th 2012
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I'm telling you. Scott's two movies away from the new Scientology
Jun 12th 2012
240
That is pretty intriguing.
Jun 20th 2012
346
the negative reaction to this after y'all Avengers hype is hilarious
Jun 12th 2012
242
Definately enjoyed Prometheus more...
Jun 12th 2012
243
so it seems. Avengers had aggressively foolish characters
Jun 12th 2012
245
I thought most of the reaction here was positive
Jun 12th 2012
244
Avengers wasn't that fun, though.
Jun 12th 2012
246
      are we at the backlash point for The Avengers?
Jun 12th 2012
249
      There's nothing to dissect. It's dumb fun
Jun 12th 2012
251
           that fun clause is subjective though.
Jun 12th 2012
252
                But most people aren't doing that.
Jun 12th 2012
259
                     you keep calling Avengers silly fun like the fun part is universal
Jun 12th 2012
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                          Except I'm not.
Jun 12th 2012
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                               oh, you don't care if motion pictures look amazing. i feel you.
Jun 12th 2012
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      Prometheus would have been better as a screen saver
Jun 12th 2012
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           I can't disagree with you any more than IU do right now
Jun 12th 2012
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           I didn't fall in love with any of it.
Jun 12th 2012
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                the stuff you're saying isn't true
Jun 12th 2012
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                     Both Ridley Scott and Damon Lindleof have said it ends with a question
Jun 12th 2012
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                          yeah I don't see that
Jun 12th 2012
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                               So you clearly don't know what you're arguing for or against
Jun 12th 2012
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                                    dude, you gotta trim your argument down to just one or two
Jun 12th 2012
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                                         OK. How about the movie ending on a big question?
Jun 12th 2012
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                                              RE: OK. How about the movie ending on a big question?
Jun 12th 2012
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                                                   If you weren't being obnoxious, I'd think you weren't being serious.
Jun 12th 2012
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                                                        RE: If you weren't being obnoxious, I'd think you weren't being serious.
Jun 13th 2012
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                                                             Way to not engage.
Jun 13th 2012
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                                                                  RE: Way to not engage.
Jun 14th 2012
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                                                                       RE: Way to not engage.
Jun 14th 2012
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                                                                            RE: Way to not engage.
Jun 15th 2012
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                                                                                 RE: Way to not engage.
Jun 15th 2012
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                                                                                 you could've just said
Jun 15th 2012
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                                                                                 Questions
Jun 15th 2012
328
           Avengers would have been better as a couple gifs
Jun 12th 2012
257
                LOL. So cut down to youtube moments wasn't hyperbolic
Jun 12th 2012
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                     Cutting Avengers down to Youtube clips wasn't hyperbole
Jun 12th 2012
260
                          You can celebrate it, I'd rather not give it my 16 bucks.
Jun 12th 2012
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                               cool, bro.
Jun 12th 2012
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It's about the tonal difference.
Jun 14th 2012
299
      That's quite the copout, bro.
Jun 14th 2012
303
in spite of its flaws, i want to watch this twice
Jun 12th 2012
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^
Jun 12th 2012
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In spite of its flaws...
Jun 13th 2012
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      i've been having an Alien marathon too
Jun 13th 2012
282
           the fucked up part about Alien 3
Jun 13th 2012
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           I'd put it between Aliens and Alien 3.
Jun 14th 2012
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                Having just watched both, I'm rather incredulous.
Jun 14th 2012
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                     that's how James Cameron makes his billions
Jun 14th 2012
307
                     You're mistaking me for other people in the post.
Jun 14th 2012
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                          perhaps Prometheus failed to smarten up the Alien series
Jun 14th 2012
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                          It's not congratulations, it's a difference of preference.
Jun 14th 2012
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                               word. i mean i have the same issues with Prometheus
Jun 15th 2012
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                                    Yeah, I cosign all that.
Jun 15th 2012
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                                         RE: Yeah, I cosign all that.
Jun 15th 2012
329
                          Both had analogies
Jun 24th 2012
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LOL@this movie having "deep" or "high minded" ideas. Boulderdash.
Jun 13th 2012
281
RE: LOL@this movie having "deep" or "high minded" ideas. Boulderdash.
Jun 13th 2012
283
Agreed.
Jun 13th 2012
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      I think this is why you disagree on my response to the film:
Jun 13th 2012
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      It's just that I'm all about story and characters
Jun 13th 2012
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           I've come to a truce of corts with summer blockbusters
Jun 13th 2012
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                damn, that's a pretty good breakdown of my stance too
Jun 13th 2012
295
                     There's sophistication and then there's competence
Jun 13th 2012
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      so...you don't think there are big questions?
Jun 13th 2012
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           You claimed that the film didn't end with a question
Jun 13th 2012
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                I don't think it ends on a question
Jun 13th 2012
293
I made the same mistake with Inception
Jun 13th 2012
294
Handy Chart: Prometheus Species Origin (link)...
Jun 13th 2012
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lol, that actually is handy
Jun 13th 2012
290
the "vickers should have run sideways" thing
Jun 14th 2012
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i wanna put this post in a time capsule for 20 years
Jun 14th 2012
306
Not sure the director's cut is going to save this one
Jun 14th 2012
309
i didn't say it was going to have the impact of Blade Runner
Jun 14th 2012
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      So it'll be like Blade Runner except for the main positives of Blade Run...
Jun 14th 2012
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           i love how great you are at reading. i said Prometheus and Blade Runner
Jun 14th 2012
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                And... why is Blade Runner celebrated?
Jun 14th 2012
318
                     whatever the cut
Jun 15th 2012
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                     You're wrong in this exchange.
Jun 15th 2012
326
                          Let me rephrase: why will this movie gain praise late?
Jun 15th 2012
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                               the visuals, David, and the mythology will stand up to time
Jun 15th 2012
330
                                    I agree about David
Jun 15th 2012
331
                                         I think we may see a Supporting Actor FYC push, honestly.
Jun 15th 2012
332
                                              Fassbender for supporting actor? I doubt it
Jun 18th 2012
340
yuuup
Jun 14th 2012
312
Agreed
Jun 14th 2012
308
      *shrug* i don't disagree that it was entirely ridiculous
Jun 14th 2012
311
I dunno bout dat high minded stuff, but
Jun 16th 2012
333
EXACTLY!!
Jun 17th 2012
335
RE: I dunno bout dat high minded stuff, but
Jun 17th 2012
337
Very mixed reaction for me.
Jun 17th 2012
334
RE: Very mixed reaction for me.
Jun 17th 2012
336
Disagreed.
Jun 18th 2012
338
      agree to disagree
Jun 18th 2012
341
Actually, that aspect seemed believable to me.
Jun 19th 2012
343
much better the second time round
Jun 18th 2012
339
I need to do likewise, although I pretty much loved it anyway.
Jun 19th 2012
344
      It's 'tighter' the second time around
Jun 20th 2012
345
Just read this whole damn thread, got some clarification
Jun 18th 2012
342
So.. Aside From the Commonly Discussed Issues..
Jun 20th 2012
347
There was a David reading Weyland's dream sequence that got cut
Jun 20th 2012
348
      RE: There was a David reading Weyland's dream sequence that got cut
Jun 20th 2012
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      RE: There was a David reading Weyland's dream sequence that got cut
Jun 20th 2012
351
      i enjoy these promos more than the movie
Jun 23rd 2012
354
      the makeup wasn't bad...the acting was
Jun 30th 2012
356
What David said to the Engineer is revealed...
Jun 20th 2012
350
cool.
Jun 22nd 2012
352
Stunning visually, but I have to watch it again to really grasp the stor...
Jun 22nd 2012
353
your initial reaction matches closely to my reaction after first viewing...
Jul 01st 2012
357
RE: Prometheus (Scott, 2012) (SPOILERS)
Apr 28th 2013
358
repeat viewings help this flick so much
Apr 28th 2013
359
i agree i enjoyed it the first time but rewatching it i liked it more
Apr 29th 2013
360
it goes by fast too..doesnt seem like 2.5
Apr 29th 2013
362
it keeps growing in different directions with me
Apr 29th 2013
361
RE: the most boring film of 2012
Apr 30th 2013
365

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1. "From what I can tell, looks like it may be dope."
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Since 1976

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BigWorm
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226. "I loved this movie. Start to finish"
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I didn't have a problem with the unanswered questions.

  

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YaBoy...Holla@ME
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2. "Holy Shit"
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The coyness about whether or not its Alien related needs to go, that trailer looked like Alien 0 to me (this is great imo)

Two of my favorite movies of all time are Alien and Blade Runner, I don't see how this film could disappoint

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3. "RE: Holy Shit"
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>Two of my favorite movies of all time are Alien and Blade
>Runner, I don't see how this film could disappoint

Have you seen any Ridley Scott movies in the last ten years?

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YaBoy...Holla@ME
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6. "RE: Holy Shit"
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>>Two of my favorite movies of all time are Alien and Blade
>>Runner, I don't see how this film could disappoint
>
>Have you seen any Ridley Scott movies in the last ten years?

Black Hawk Down, Kingdom of Heaven (Director's Cut), American Gangster and Body of Lies are all winners to me

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colonelk
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9. "RE: Holy Shit"
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Well, then you'll probably dig Prometheus.

I think 2000s Ridley doesn't come close to 70s/80s Ridley. American Gangster is a solid film, but his bigger gambles (Robin Hood, Kingdom of Heaven) are silly.

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YaBoy...Holla@ME
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10. "RE: Holy Shit"
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>I think 2000s Ridley doesn't come close to 70s/80s Ridley.

This is undeniably true


>American Gangster is a solid film, but his bigger gambles
>(Robin Hood, Kingdom of Heaven) are silly.
I didn't hate Robin Hood, but it is very forgettable. I also enjoyed Kingdom of Heaven, but I've only ever seen the Director's Cut and i've heard the difference btwn that version and the theatrical one was night and day. I'm not sure which version you've seen, but if you haven't seen the DC, maybe that might help your perception of the film.

I'm excited for this movie because Blade Runner and Alien are two of my favorite movies of all time and I'm excited for a new sci-fi movie that has that dark, haunting, semi-dystopian feel. I also hope that this might be a chance for Ridley Scott to return to that 70s/80s form.

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11. "everybody forgets matchstick men when discussing 2000s ridley."
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that kinda annoys me lol.
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12. "i liked that movie."
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i was never big on the ending, but it's a very enjoyable movie... i don't know about much more though. i always wondered if that was sort of a "well, i expect his movies to suck now, but this one doesn't!" sort of thing. haven't seen it in years though.

also, nicolas cage was really great in matchstick men.

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14. "his last great role...well...that and port of call new orleans."
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>also, nicolas cage was really great in matchstick men.
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>themacguffinmen.com


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YaBoy...Holla@ME
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15. "Yeah he was great in that."
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His over-the-top schtick worked perfectly for the role. Not sure how much of that acting though...other than trading alcohol for harder stuff

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44. "NOW SWIIIITCH! TO KYRPTOLIIIIIIIIGHT!"
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YaBoy...Holla@ME
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13. "I always forget about this movie"
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I guess I always considered it a Nick Cage movie and not a Ridley Scott movie. The latter I avoid on principle whereas the opposite is true for the latter

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The Analyst
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18. "?"
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>The latter I avoid on principle whereas
>the opposite is true for the latter

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YaBoy...Holla@ME
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42. "Me trying to sound educated when I'm high always = fail"
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I tend to avoid Nic Cage movies on principle, but the opposite is true for Ridley Scott

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bwood
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4. "So yeah this is an Alien prequel...(BIG MOTHERFUCKING SPOILERS NIGGAS!!!..."
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/52100

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5. "It has not been confirmed, the article/breakdown on"
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aintitcool is fake.

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will_5198
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7. "if Scott blows this one, I think we can write him off for good"
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8. "logan marshall green looks like cmdr shepard in that EW pic."
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bwood
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16. "Trailer to premiere in front of Dragon Tattoo. Online Thursday."
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Someone bootleg that bitch, upload it, and inbox me please.

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17. "Official Trailer: "
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http://www.slashfilm.com/prometheus-trailer/

Damn.

With this, TDKR and The Hobbit, this is icing on the cake. He's pretty much back to form. Can't wait.

  

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19. "Nice! Going to be a helluva summer"
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21. "fuuuuck this looks so fresh"
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Can't wait. 2012 is going to be so amped.

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bwood
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20. "How are they saying this is not an Alien prequel when..."
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They got the Space Jockey in the fucking trailer and they did the title just like the OG Alien. C'mon

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23. "a couple of possible reasons"
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1) It ties into Aliens somehow, but just in a small, incidental way.

2) It was SUPPOSED to tie into Alien, at first, but it didn't 'work' so they changed stuff at the 11th hour and then claimed that it was never supposed to be an Alien prequel (SEE Super 8).

3) The twist is that it leads up to the beginning of Alien, and they don't want to give it away.


  

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xangeluvr
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22. "this could easily be a Mass Effect or Halo trailer"
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24. "New Trailer"
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http://youtu.be/HHcHYisZFLU

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25. "IMAX Trailer"
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=88133

both bonkers

  

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27. "Goddamn. Best trailers ive seen in a minute"
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Both of em have me in day one...I need a cigarette, lol

  

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33. "homie, that music at the end, with the repeating alarm?"
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SO GOOD.

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37. "Was stuck in my head all wknd"
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>SO GOOD.

  

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28. "HOLY Shit, young I had no clue it was like this"
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I am all the way in.

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41. "best trailer in recent memory. bodies the avengers one easily."
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26. "count ME in....n/m"
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29. "*runs in*"
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Sat Mar-17-12 09:34 PM by lfresh

  

          

im innnnn

but scaaaarred


wait! i see lips tom hardy??

WHO is logan marshal-green?!
oh wait thats the dude in dark blue
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106. "HA!"
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if anything, Green is a tom hardy lips clone (and a low budget one at that since he's so bland on screen...but shout out to Green, since I know he was dating Marissa Tomei at one point...*HOLLA* )

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30. "Yeah. I'm there."
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31. "you already know"
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that's it, no more trailers or swipes or interviews for me. June 8.

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38. "I'm with you. I read an article that spoiled something."
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So I'm now on board with you. Nothing else at all. It was literally one of the first sentences of the first article I read. So fucking pissed.

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39. "Inbox me what said man nm"
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43. "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave."
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32. "& now the international trailer just in case"
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=88155

  

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34. "wow, looks great"
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i also still think it looks like it could be a halo or mass effect movie.

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35. "i'm in, but i'm thoroughly confused"
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is Prometheous a character in the movie (Fassbender)? tied to the Greek legend? what time period is this taking place in? is Noomi Rapace suppose to be young Weaver from what i've heard here and there? is Idris gunna get to smash Theron on screen?

  

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36. "RE: i'm in, but i'm thoroughly confused"
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>is Prometheous a character in the movie (Fassbender)? tied to
>the Greek legend?

I'm assuming Prometheus is the name of the mission and/or ship. So, when the characters are trying to contact Prometheus, it's basically the equivalent of "Headquarters, can you read me?"

>what time period is this taking place in? is
>Noomi Rapace suppose to be young Weaver from what i've heard
>here and there?

Considering how hesitant they've been to concretely describe this as a prequel to the Alien films, I doubt Noomi is supposed to be a young Weaver.

>is Idris gunna get to smash Theron on screen?

He might literally smash her, with a rock or other blunt object. Because you know someone's gonna "go wogue and lose contwol."

  

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40. "ahh i see"
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and lol @ "literally smash her"

  

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363. "I just want to point out that"
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Charlize did in fact get literally smashed, by a space ship no less, as a direct result of Idris' actions.

Talk about prescience.

  

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364. "HAHA. nice"
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45. "New Viral Video: Happy Birthday David"
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http://youtu.be/DOOJl5lWNfM

I'm getting more and more pumped for this movie!

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46. "that was great"
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haha. Can't wait for this movie!

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47. "New International Trailer. I need this movie to come out already"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1byZkbNB3Jw

  

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48. "Seriously..."
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I am more excited about this movie than any other one coming out this summer.

Looks awesome.

  

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49. "fuck."
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50. "Ridicleyous"
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Alien Director's Cut was just on last night too

  

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51. "i mean damn. "
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that looks fucking spectacular.

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52. "They're showing too much"
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I was SUPER excited before this, i'm still incredibly gassed, like leave my lady at home gassed on Friday night type shit, but I want them to stop showing me shit.

I want to be surprised!

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53. "it is a trailer "
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"Regardless if you listen to me, in the end we'll see."
-Cee-Lo

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54. "I agree regarding this trailer"
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>I was SUPER excited before this, i'm still incredibly gassed,
>like leave my lady at home gassed on Friday night type shit,
>but I want them to stop showing me shit.
>
>I want to be surprised!


Same here..now I know a lot of whats going on and it's taken away a lot of the mystique that the other trailers created.

  

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55. "Exactly, like right now I already know me and Scott were deadwrong"
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What we talked about on our podcast couple of weeks ago. I didn't want to know that we were wrong until i went into the theater.

I mean at this point it looks more like an Alien remake than a pre-quel

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56. "I thought it was pretty awesome..."
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And to be honest, there may still be something there...

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68. "which is why you don't watch previews lol"
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what did you think was gonna happen man?

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57. "I refuse to watch ANY more trailers.."
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one more month for a movie i've been waiting at least 10 years to see..

I'll wait..

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1byZkbNB3Jw

  

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62. "This looks like an Alien ripoff. "
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^^^^^^I kinda want to yell at the guy who posted that comment.

  

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63. "Can you rip off your own shit?"
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58. "They should change the name of this film to "Stringer in Space""
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59. "with a Southern accent"
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60. "He's selling off his packages in SPACE"
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rdhull
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61. "oh inDEED"
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On the dock of that bay serving a life sentence,even if Im going to hell Im gonna make an entrance

  

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64. "GOT MY PRESS SCREENING ON JUNE 6TH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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I'M SO FUCKING HYPED RIGHT NOW NIGGAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MIGHT HAVE A Q&A WITH RIDLEY SCOTT!!!!!!!

Unfortunately it's in 3D...

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74. "NOICE"
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!!!

  

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65. "Gets an R rating "
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Time to lower those box office predictions.

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66. "YUP!!!!!!!!!!!"
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http://collider.com/prometheus-rating-rated-r/164532/

Tom Rothman didn't fuck with it!!!!!!

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67. "del Toror speaks!!!!"
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=89939

So excited right fucking now...

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69. "#HYPE HYPE HYPE"
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70. "New featurette"
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=90032

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71. "I knew I heard that whistle from somewhere"
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http://youtu.be/bEVY_lonKf4

49 seconds in

So yeah, in case there was any doubt that this was connected to Alien in some way, that was a big clue

Along with the quick shots in the trailers and commercials of the space jockey in action

Alien has been on Cinemax for the past couple of days; tune in and see the dead space jockey and wonder how we'll get to that point via this movie

Ridley has said that the last 12 minutes will make Alien fans pretty happy, or something to that effect

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72. "About two weeks from it's Euro release"
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Im thinking we're going to start hearing screening reactions via twitter and blogs by the end of the week.

  

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73. "I can't wait I'm over in the UK right now."
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First day.

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75. "Now here's a question. 3D or not?"
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was the 3D added on in post? or was this shot with the intent to include 3D.

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76. "for me the answer is always no."
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>was the 3D added on in post? or was this shot with the
>intent to include 3D.
>
>

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77. "It was shot in 3D"
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Which makes me more likely to see it in 3D. I also think that this could be one of the cooler films to see in 3D because there will be some crazy architecture and interesting lighting so that the depth is more impressive.

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78. "anyone who doesn't see this in 3D should eat shit."
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http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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79. "Goddamn nigga that's a little much...nm"
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81. "I didn't say "and die." respect my mellow."
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http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

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80. "my nigga."
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sometimes u gotta leave ur inner nigger in the bank vault. - desus

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184. "3D didn't add much."
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254. "I hate you and everything you claim to represent"
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http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

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84. "IMAX 3D or you're a buster. I trust Ridley completely with this. "
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82. "Profile of Dr. Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace) (link)"
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She's so hot

http://youtu.be/zwEtldZQNew

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83. "I think I finally need to see the original Girl With the Dragon Tattoo "
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>She's so hot
>
>http://youtu.be/zwEtldZQNew

& that voice is soooo fuckin sexy

  

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85. "Remember its all in Swedish so that accent isnt' there at all!!"
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Noomi is the best part of that whole shit though, she controls the screen whenever she's on it.

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86. "DAMN IT!!!!"
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I was really hoping my press screening would be on the 8 story IMAX. At least Fassbinder is showing up. Mad excited!!!

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87. "#humblebrag"
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88. "GODDAMN. This Bugatti didn't come with the 21 inch rims"
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Fuckers only gave me stock. I GUESS ill deal.

  

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89. "Another reason to be excited for this shit"
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http://collider.com/django-unchained-trailer-prometheus/168914/

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90. "Early reviews are IN"
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http://io9.com/5914281/is-prometheus-actually-any-good-early-reviews-are-in

From Meh to Good.

I'm still going.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

*Effasig*

  

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91. "Seeing this tomorrow..can't wait"
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92. "I saw it a few hours ago"
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It's good, actually it was very good.
Visually stunning, should win awards for cinematography.
the link with 'Alien' is there,
but it's not really a prequel.
One of the problems mentioned in early reviews
is that there is not enough character development,
this is not the case, plus, outside Ripley & arguably the android, the first Alien wasn't exactly an example of character development.


Fassbinder, Rapace & Theron (in that order) give the best performances.


I was left with enough questions afterwards.

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93. "Fuck. I loved it"
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As the poster above said the visuals were incredible. It's just sweeping the whole way through.

I thought the performances were great, the story lovingly creepy.

Fassbender(sure I spelt that wrong) is awesome in this.

I'll probably see it again.

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94. "Tomnorrow night niggas!!!"
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So excited right now.

Recommend me some questions to ask Fassbender.

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95. "Stephen A Smith Prometheus commercials are testing my commitment"
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96. "lol. Of all people why him?"
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one of the last dudes on Earth I want to see talking about Prometheus.

  

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97. "I'm excited to see Fassy...he's 1 of the great ones."
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nm

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100. "He kills it too. Easily the best performance"
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98. "I loved it..."
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... You can quibble with aspects of the plot and some of the meandering philosophical themes that never really lead anywhere, but on a visual level, the film is stunningly immersive, which heightens the creeping sense of dread. Fassbender is tremendous, and Rapace fills in ably as the Ripley stand-in.

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99. "So yeah it's an Alien prequel that starts a new franchise (SPOILERS)"
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It's all about the Space Jockey baby (or as they're called in this film Engineers)

The film does falter in the last act, but if your a fan of the original Alien like me, you're gonna eat this shit up from beginning to end. This is just awesome and yes ALL MAJOR PLAYERS KILL IT!!!

I love how my nigga Idris Elba ends up being the hero and save the day with his crew. And he lays the pipe down Theron.

What I like is that Ridley took the Space Jockey and opened up a universe of questions that'll hopefully be answered in the sequel. This was really philosophical.

And while I felt this was a PG-13 cause Ridley was holding back it seems, It gets awesomely gnarly at points that had my boys and I cheering.

Can't wait to fully take this in again on the 8 story IMAX Saturday night. There's a lot I'm still processing.

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101. "Huge *SPOILER*in my reply that you will read below "
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you agree with me that the engineer in the beginning was on earth
and spread his dna that would eventually lead to humans
as an experiment but then the rest realized it was a failure
and thus they created the ship with the yet to evolve AlIENS
to destroy "us".

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103. "This is what i was wondering"
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and why did they call off the attack on earth? the last engineer awoke and was heading to earth. why?

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105. "Didn't they get attacked also? In one scene the engineers"
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running from -something-, there were a bunch of bodies.
might be one or some of the aliens they were running from, killed by their own weapon....
one survived (there weren't more 'sleeping' right?),
I'll have to see it again though to catch more details.

the Shaw "abortion" scene was badass.

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Metal Face
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111. "yeah"
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that's what the pile of bodies was about. what were they running from?

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104. "That is how I took it"
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190. "i didn't tie that angle in. thank you"
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that's a great way to look at it. makes other themes connect even better

  

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102. "good review but (SPOILERS)"
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I heard the asian dude was the hero...*BUT* if Idris survives, then shit, HOLLAH!

cause you KNOW negroes be the first to go or close to it in sci-fi/horror movies...

im going to see this over the weekend I can't wait.

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191. "agreed But Im mad they didn't show"
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my nigga Idris lay it down on Charlize

  

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219. "Very true..."
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...I don't think White America is ready to see the real Shame with Elba and Theron. Hence why it was not shown.

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107. "How did homie from Dark Blue get in this?...seems like a left field choi..."
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108. "i predict equal amounts of love and hate for this movie...(spoilers)"
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and those who love are gonna love for the exact reasons that those who hate are gonna hate.

anyone going in expecting some huge action or horror movie is gonna be disappointed in a way. it's much more of a cerebral thinkpiece than i thought it was gonna be. and that's kinda why i love it.

i can't stop thinking about what i just saw. all of it. just the ideas of it all. the very religious overtones. especially all the conversations between the two leads about religion vs. evolution. what happens if we finally find what made us only to find that we now have to ask what made THEM?

i'm rambling. i can't wait to watch it again. i feel like the second time is gonna rule so hard.

but yeah i can already see the stupid "that shit sucked" comments from casual viewers. and these future comments i'm gonna have to see are already making me angry. lol.

oh and fassbender can officially do no wrong. he was great as expected. even though i couldn't help but think of him as a grown up version of haley joel osment from artificial intelligence just cos he was named david. whole cast was great really. can't really think of any weak links.


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109. "i only have one question"
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i can't see it until next week, so i'm just curious how charlize looks in what looks to be, from the trailers, some skin tight outfits?

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110. "terrible"
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she has no body at all. none.

now noomi...

not much T&A but her body was so fit. she looked great.

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134. "^^^terribly wrong"
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she looked bout it bout it...noomi too

  

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138. "I know, right?"
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192. "a man who says Charlize looked terrible in them suites"
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is a strange strange man IMO

  

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112. "SPOILERS"
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Best. Abortion. Ever.

  

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114. "lol"
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128. "Accurate..."
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113. "Question, how soon does the black guy die?"
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115. "He served us well."
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116. "The Asian dude too"
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>
muhahaha

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117. "saw it last week, not bad..."
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..solid syfy

great sweeping visuals through the film

decent job of answering a few questions from the original franchise while still leavin' plenty to be discovered.

the cast was aiight, but i was disappointed with charlize theron.

i'm torn between givin' it a B-/C+


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118. "three words: WHITE PEOPLE CURIOSITY"
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120. "fist pump"
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170. "Elba: stayed on ship. Asian: stayed on ship."
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119. "More thriller than horror, thought it was fine (SPOILERS)"
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This felt like the first piece of a prequel pie, and as such I thought it was fine. Not perfect. Not great. Not awesome. But good.

I also thought that of the 4 leads, Noomi and Fassbender were quite good. Charlize was cool but there was nothing to her character except cold, and the hints as to whether or not she was an android like David were scarce. I just had a hard time locking into her character, because all she was playing was a cold beyotch.

Also, Idris was okay, but again, wasn't given much to do except play the captain as a kinda-sorta horndog manly man. And sorry, black women, but I wanted to see him tap Charlize's ass. Yep, I did.

I was going to complain that I couldn't make an emotional connection to any of the characters in the movie. I mean, it's supposed to be a big deal when Charlie bites it, but I didn't really care that much. And I didn't care about Noomi until she had to do the operation on herself. And I didn't care when Idris drove the Prometheus into the big alien horseshoe. Again, it was tough for me to get behind anyone save Noomi after her wide-awake not-abortion of the alien baby.

But then I remembered that the original Alien didn't have a lot in the way of soul, either. That didn't come until Aliens, and that was mainly because Sigourney was looking after a little girl.

It sounds like I didn't dig it, but I did, mainly because of the effects and the performances of Noomi and Fassbender. Noomi kicked more ass here than in those shitty Swedish Millenium movies combined.

I know that some will say that the movie just sucks, citing the new PTP Law which says that any movie over 1:40 sucks (this ran 2:04), and claiming that the first 30 minutes could have easily been cut out. But I'd argue that you kinda-sorta need the setup of who everyone is, and what's going on, in order to proceed. I'd only agree in the fact that there was a LOT of essential but tedious backstory that had to be covered in that first half hour. But you certainly can't stop once the action gets rolling to explain why Shaw is the way she is.

Again, not the greatest film evar, but not terrible and certainly worth a look-see...

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168. "Anyone who complains about the set-up is a dummy."
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I liked the "slow" stuff way more than any of the action here, really. Running from a storm and running from a falling ship, while they looked awesome, were nothing new. The best section of the film was before the "static storm" started arriving (a pretty blah cliche of convenience in films like this, really), when we were just discovering the characters and discovering the world. It's when we started trying to solve why this world and these characters were like this that the film becomes less awesome. (I'm sure there's a Lost joke to be made here.)

I think Alien's characters had more soul than this, btw... maybe because there were way fewer of them and we got to know them even longer before the action started taking place. Alien's also way easier to follow, since it tells a very simple story in an epic background, whereas this movie is attempting to tell the epic story, so the audience isn't overwhelmed and can focus on getting to know the characters more easily.

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121. "screenplay was bleh."
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A lil unsatisfying.



Shoulda got Joss on it.


83% for the visuals alone theaux.

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122. "foh. avengers was a horribly written pos."
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123. "one of the most visually arresting movies of this era."
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the art design and effects are a triumph for shooting digital (truly a movie that needs to be seen in a high-end theater to appreciate). this would be a striking experience even without a line of dialogue.

it just misses being a masterpiece, however. there's an amalgamation of Blade Runner and Alien here, but the existentialism and horror thrills are not as strong as either predecessor. perhaps that's an unfair comparison (as they are arguably the best movies ever made in their sub-genre) -- yet it's hard to avoid when Prometheus culls so liberally from both.

I did appreciate the attempt at reconciling the emotions of religion and unproven aspects of science. both rely so much on faith, they are more similar than unlike. I also dug the power of creation, from the engineers "mistakes" to human-made droids and the thread of ownership/parenthood.

again though, they teased those aspects more than explored them (leaving an ending that suffers from sequel syndrome). a very, very good movie that was nearly great.

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130. "I agree heavily with this"
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There were definite and absolute moments of horror that weren't nearly as well done as the earlier movies you mentioned, but I also think some of the scares were toned down because you knew EXACTLY how shit was about to play out, not like oh this might happen, you knew EXACTLY how the face hugger's uncle was going to get to where it got, or how certain characters would die.

I liked it alot, but there are some very real falling shorts here.

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124. "looked amazing. plot/story was very thin."
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i'd like to see it again though.

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125. "visuals: 9/10 plot: 2/10"
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there are so many plot holes in this movie i don't know where to begin. you could literally play drinking games to the plot holes.

great visuals though, specifically the opening sequence and the last 15 minutes or so.

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126. "i'd give the plot more of a 5 or 6 out of 10."
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127. "Kinda surprised at the antipathy it's recieving"
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It's nowhere near as tight a movie as Alien but it's Scott's best film-making in God knows how long. The storytelling becomes a bit jumbled at the end but the visuals and across the board strong performances more than made it worth my time. I don't quite get comparing it to Avengers. This is a fairly hard sci-fi-horror flick.

Also, see this in 3D at all costs.

  

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129. "Just saw it...(SPOILERS for sure)"
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FIRST: my suggestion: DEFINITELY see it in 3D (3D Imax if Possible)....

visually speaking....I was 100% sold in the first opening scene when the... ))SPOILER STUFF COMING>>

...Engineer is on Earth creating us by sacrificing himself <thats my interpretation of that scene at least. Could be literally interpreted or could be religiously metaphorically interpreted too, ie:

'Engineer' sacrifices himself to create new species-humans = 'Son of God' sacrificing himself that we (humans) may live.

Again, those are the 'two' ('same' in a way) takeaways that i got from that initial opening breathtaking scene....

....and damn what a scene it was!

i mean, for ME it was jaw dropping. FULL of visual depth, wonder, beauty, creepy and coolness. multi-textured & visceral...that scene kicked ass in my opinion. took my breath away...and like i said, it alone was worth every penny I paid to see in Imax 3D. I told my wife on the way home that it would be great to be able to project that scene full size on our wall at home and replay it over anytime i felt like i needed some movie magic awesomeness....

on the way home we talked and we both LOVED the film and will definitely be going back to see it again. But then again, we are acknowledged 46 year old movie junkies...sci-fi, comic, fantasy thriller fans especially. Ridley's 'Alien' was of course one of my all time game changer favorites, as well as Blade Runner which was another different kind of gem as well...so, yeah, WE absolutely LOVED 'Prometheus'. Thought it was visually breathtaking throughout, and should win awards for all of that art direction alone. And story-wise it had a full mix of things i like....some mystery, questions & wonder...gives ya some answers but not all...lays some things on the table for you but also leaves some things open to different possibilities...i loved it.

In my opinion it is NOT a 'mass-appeal'/'general public' movie though, and i don't think it was made with that goal in mind. ( of course i'm sure the studio WANTS it to have as much mass appeal as it can though and wants it make a gazzilion dollars, but unfortunately i have a feeling that the NON-movie fanatic wont be geeking out QUITE like we were and wanting to immediately see it again! i HOPE they do, but i'm not sure they will. And i dont think those who prefer more 'in your face instant gratifaction action' type of movies are going to appreciate some of the 'slow burn' steady build-up elements as much as folks like me who really dig the subtle set-up approach. (Dont get it twisted though, there are indeed some fantastic thrilling moments in this flick without a doubt!) Like i said, perhaps the NON-movie fanatic wont be geeking out QUITE like we were and wanting to immediately see it again...i HOPE they do though.

just like i HOPE that younger folks, (who have grown up IN the digital special effects age with CG-good and bad-all around them scince birth, and who are IMO somewhat jaded in some ways by that fact)...i HOPE that younger viewers can appreciate this movie for its absolutely stunning but subtlely awesome visuals....i do HOPE they will appreciate and enjoy it as much as i did, but do i have my doubts.

I am SO glad that i intentionally & successfully prevented myself from seeing any trailers for this before going to see the movie. It is a technique i use whenever i know something is coming out that i will absolutely see no matter what....if i KNOW i'm gonna see a movie, i avoid watching ANY trailers or reading ANY specific info on it prior to going to the movie.For me, it makes for a much more exciting movie experience and allows me to actually be surprised and to discover stuff and have the story unfold for me IN the moment.

i wont get into the story and theories now (cuz i need to get my ass to SLEEP) but i'll try to come back in the thread later to see what folks are saying about that and throw my 2 cents in too.

to quickly summarize though, for me this was another Ridley Scott classic....if i have to give it a comparison, 'Prometheus' is almost literally the 'baby' of "Alien' & 'Bladerunner' if those two movies did it and could have a child. For me, that is a GOOD thang

I WILL be seeing it AGAIN in 3D (which is surprising to me because i am NOT typically a fan of the 3D thing. THIS movie though makes that 3D experience VERY satisfying i must say.....

...and damn i cant WAIT for the BluRay of this one...methinks there's an R rated Directors cut just waiting for me to happily give my hard earned money for


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SPOILER:





Isn't the space jockey who died at the end and obviously gave spawn to the queen, supposed to have made it to the seat of his arced ship and had the alien explode out of him there? Isn't the crashed arc ship the one they find in Alien?

  

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>
>SPOILER:
>
>
>
>
>
>Isn't the space jockey who died at the end and obviously gave
>spawn to the queen, supposed to have made it to the seat of
>his arced ship and had the alien explode out of him there?
>Isn't the crashed arc ship the one they find in Alien?



just one of the many plot holes, dawg. here's how I took it...

the proto-alien love child of the octopus shark and buff powder hightailed it to the crashed arc ship and then sorta camped out there making alien eggs for a few hundred years until the scientist crew from Alien showed up. Now, how he/she got the blue/green laser to protect the eggs (shown in the first Alien) is beyond me. Also, how her eggs were fertilized is beyond me as well. Maybe that alien was a male and a female alien was chilling in one of the other ships that was apparently lying around the planet.

But for the most part, I think your interpretation is pretty much accurate.
of course this isn't explained in the film so it's really left up to the viewer.

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133. "this nukka said buff Powder lol"
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>>
>>SPOILER:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Isn't the space jockey who died at the end and obviously
>gave
>>spawn to the queen, supposed to have made it to the seat of
>>his arced ship and had the alien explode out of him there?
>>Isn't the crashed arc ship the one they find in Alien?
>
>
>
>just one of the many plot holes, dawg. here's how I took
>it...
>
>the proto-alien love child of the octopus shark and buff
>powder hightailed it to the crashed arc ship and then sorta
>camped out there making alien eggs for a few hundred years
>until the scientist crew from Alien showed up. Now, how he/she
>got the blue/green laser to protect the eggs (shown in the
>first Alien) is beyond me. Also, how her eggs were fertilized
>is beyond me as well. Maybe that alien was a male and a female
>alien was chilling in one of the other ships that was
>apparently lying around the planet.
>
>But for the most part, I think your interpretation is pretty
>much accurate.
>of course this isn't explained in the film so it's really left
>up to the viewer.

I thought the ending was the BIRTH of the queen. That this is the origin of the Alien species ( I mean the icon Alien, not all those face huggers etc which are from those tar soup snakes)...

And thats what I was expecting to happen..him to have octopus shark attack him..shove the egg down his throat with him on smei coma..then he awakens and walks to the crashed ship or at least another..get in the seat..and then splat..the queen is birthed from his chest..then thats what Ripley and Why Dont You Freeze Him find in the 1979 flick.

  

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137. "RE: this nukka said buff Powder lol"
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>I thought the ending was the BIRTH of the queen. That this is
>the origin of the Alien species ( I mean the icon Alien, not
>all those face huggers etc which are from those tar soup
>snakes)...
>
>And thats what I was expecting to happen..him to have octopus
>shark attack him..shove the egg down his throat with him on
>smei coma..then he awakens and walks to the crashed ship or at
>least another..get in the seat..and then splat..the queen is
>birthed from his chest..then thats what Ripley and Why Dont
>You Freeze Him find in the 1979 flick.

Well see, that would have made too much sense.

So basically, the only explanation is that the ship in the first Alien was a completely DIFFERENT ship altogether. So I'm guessing the tar snakes must have infected some other humanoids on a different part of the planet, thus resulting in ANOTHER cephalopod shark which then face planted ANOTHER buff powder somewhere else.

So the chain of events seems to go something like this:


tar snake + humanoid = octo-shark
octo-shark + swoll powder = proto queen alien

edit:

oh fuck, man the tar snakes actually didn't do shit, at least that we know of. they just hopped in dudes mouth and made his chest cavity their new home.

the octo-shark came from Logan Marshall's character being infected by the soil juice from that relic. so before he became a space zombie, he fucked Rapace's character and then THAT is where the octo-squid came from.

So here we go...

space zombie + humanoid (intercourse) = octo-shark
octo-shark + swoll powder = proto queen alien

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140. "RE: this nukka said buff Powder lol"
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>>I thought the ending was the BIRTH of the queen. That this
>is
>>the origin of the Alien species ( I mean the icon Alien, not
>>all those face huggers etc which are from those tar soup
>>snakes)...
>>
>>And thats what I was expecting to happen..him to have
>octopus
>>shark attack him..shove the egg down his throat with him on
>>smei coma..then he awakens and walks to the crashed ship or
>at
>>least another..get in the seat..and then splat..the queen is
>>birthed from his chest..then thats what Ripley and Why Dont
>>You Freeze Him find in the 1979 flick.
>
>Well see, that would have made too much sense.
>
>So basically, the only explanation is that the ship in the
>first Alien was a completely DIFFERENT ship altogether. So I'm
>guessing the tar snakes must have infected some other
>humanoids on a different part of the planet, thus resulting in
>ANOTHER cephalopod shark which then face planted ANOTHER buff
>powder somewhere else.
>
>So the chain of events seems to go something like this:
>
>
>tar snake + humanoid = octo-shark
>octo-shark + swoll powder = proto queen alien
>
>edit:
>
>oh fuck, man the tar snakes actually didn't do shit, at least
>that we know of. they just hopped in dudes mouth and made his
>chest cavity their new home.
>
>the octo-shark came from Logan Marshall's character being
>infected by the soil juice from that relic. so before he
>became a space zombie, he fucked Rapace's character and then
>THAT is where the octo-squid came from.
>
>So here we go...
>
>space zombie + humanoid (intercourse) = octo-shark
>octo-shark + swoll powder = proto queen alien


Correct (which I think is proposterous...ol' Alien came from us as a hybrid lol) but still doest explain why another buff Powder would be infected with an egg on a DIFFERENT planet. Im crying bullshit on that scenario of thats what Ridley Scott is trying to say.

  

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>Correct (which I think is proposterous...ol' Alien came from
>us as a hybrid lol) but still doest explain why another buff
>Powder would be infected with an egg on a DIFFERENT planet. Im
>crying bullshit on that scenario of thats what Ridley Scott is
>trying to say.


no dawg, there are other ships on the SAME planet.

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>
>>Correct (which I think is proposterous...ol' Alien came from
>>us as a hybrid lol) but still doest explain why another buff
>>Powder would be infected with an egg on a DIFFERENT planet.
>Im
>>crying bullshit on that scenario of thats what Ridley Scott
>is
>>trying to say.
>
>
>no dawg, there are other ships on the SAME planet.


But nobody is in them..the buff Powder guy who got got was the last one there..alive.....remember?

the beacon Noomi left was the one the 1979 Alien crew picked up and got woke up for

  

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true. it's basically a huge plot hole.

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we don't really know that though, David could have been lying or simply NOT detected the other living Engineers....remember, he had to find that underground cockpit chamber, see the log of what happened, and THEN put his ear up to that stasis pod to really know for sure someone was still alive in there...he SAID dude was the last, but if there are all hese other ships, how does he "know" they're not still alive....IMHO i think David was really trying to further the Engineers agenda, and it didn't work like he thought....other than his seeming affection for the doc, he seemed to detest the other humans on the ship.....

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>But nobody is in them..the buff Powder guy who got got was the
>last one there..alive.....remember?

Dude said there were other ships.... there just as easily could have been more creators sleeping in hyperbaric chambers.

The bigger question to me is why did they go to sleep in the first place. Why not just take off... which is exactly what he tried to do as soon as he woke up.

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143. "I think y'all overthinking it (SPOILERS LIKE HELL)"
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each of the jars was some sort of bio-weapon. They weren't all the same. I don't think its a str8 line from this film to Ripley and them. I think it shows how the SPECIES of aliens comes about, but not necessarily the EXACT critter from alien comes about

  

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I didn't think it was the same ship/planet as in the first Alien. I figured the Engineers had bases all over.

  

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147. "Figured this was the main reason they were denying this being a prequel...."
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So they wouldn't have to explain the continuation with Alien.

  

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all of the plot holes so they changed it to being "related"...

  

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Prometheus takes place on LV-223 while Alien takes place on LV-426.

  

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>Prometheus takes place on LV-223 while Alien takes place on
>LV-426.


If so...then howd the LV-426 enginner get infected when the origin of the species was created on LV-223 by Noomi given birth to the soul children, I mean face hugger, that infected the engineer THERE(who had been there for eons). None of the other engineers would seemed to have ever went back as it was abandoned.

  

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I would love to know how too. I assumed they got this figured for the sequels. This is more evidence how the script wasn't logical.

  

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That opening scene really set the tone well. Just an uncomfortable vibe throughout the whole flick but still a lot of fun to sit thru. I thought all the performances were spot on including Theron. Fairfield was probably might favorite secondary character. I could've done w/o the Guy Pearce bit but that's a minor gripe. I've got it tied with The Grey right now for best movie of the year so far.

  

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instead of caking a bunch of obvious make-up on Pearce. for a movie with so many seamless, realistic effects, his whole presence was incongruous.

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http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/digital/fact-vs-fiction/prometheus-unbound-write-damon-lindelof-on-the-non-prequel-alien-prequel-9514210


>Prometheus Unbound: Writer Damon Lindelof on the Non-Prequel Alien Prequel

Damon Lindelof was driving when he got the callRidley Scott wanted to talk to him about a script. That script turned out to be the prequel to Scott's much beloved sci-fi flick Alien, written by John Spates (sic). Lindelof read the script, sent an email to Scott with some ideas for changes, and snagged a co-writing credit on Prometheus, out June 8, which has morphed into a sort-of-but-not-really prequel. Popular Mechanics spoke to Lindelof about working in the Alien universe, and why it's important to have scientific advisors. (Spoilers below, so see Prometheus before you read this interview!)

BY ERIN MCCARTHY

How did you get involved in Prometheus?

It was about two years ago. I'd been back (from my break after we finished writing Lost) for just a couple days and my phone rang and my agent said, "Ridley Scott is calling you in five minutes." I slammed on the brakes... and pulled over (to take the call). I stammered my way through that conversationI was convinced that (Scott) thought I was someone that he already knew, because I have been worshipping the ground that he walked on for as long as I can remember, and (I was) secretly hoping that whatever he was sending me was the Alien prequel I'd been reading about. A couple hours later, a guy showed up at my house, handed me a script and said, "Enjoy. I'll be waiting in my car. When you're done, you can give this back to me."

I read the scriptit was written by John Spates (sic)and I thought it was great, but it was definitely a dyed-in-the-wool Alien prequel in the sense that there was a direct and clear connectivity between the movies. It relied pretty heavily on the face hugging and chest bursting and acid-for-blood xenomorphs that we'd seen in the other movies. All that was wrapped around this incredibly original and cool sci-fi idea about scientists thinking that they had a bead on what mankind's origins on the planet might be.

So I wrote an email that night saying, "I think that that idea is strong enough to carry the movie. We can get to some of that Alien stuff that the audience is definitely going to want to see, but you did that 30 years ago and it's been done many times since. And it would be great to not rely upon it so heavily and here's how you might do that..." And for some crazy reason they hired me, and that was the next year of my life.


Prometheus has creatures that are new, but also familiar. Did you have any say in how those things should act or what they might do?

On the day that I started, Ridley brought me into a secret room at RSA where he had a design team working. Every single wall was covered in conceptual art, from the design of the ships to what the engineers were going to look like. (Ed. note: The engineers are what the scientists call the beings who they believe created humans.) The idea for the engineers was very present in John's script before I even came in(there was) the idea that what we identified as the space jockey from the first movie in the derelict ship was going to be human. And there were all these photos of Michelangelo's David and ancient Greco-Roman sculpture, and Ridley was like, "That's what color their skin is gonna be. They're gonna look in many ways like animated statues but I don't want to do it with CG, I want them to feel as real and as human and as grounded as possible."

So he was thinking about that stuff many, many months before he even began photography. And the way that he wanted to play the hits in terms of xenomorphs and face huggers, he wanted to make sure that they looked different than they had in previous movies because of some of the things that we were trying to say in this movie... I've always looked at Prometheus as this huge orgy between three generations of creation. So you have our creators, the engineers; us; and then our creation, the synthetic beings, the androids. And so basically everybody is kind of screwing each other. They all have a role in the end result of this movie. None of it would have happened had David not taken that little drop of goo that was generated from the engineers and spiked Holloway's drink with it and then Holloway has sex with Shaw and then their baby essentially ends up infecting the person who started it all, the engineers. So it goes full circle.


Each Alien parasite affects its host differently. What was the idea behind that? Are the parasites altering DNA?

I don't want to talk too specifically about what the black goop does. Obviously the characters in the movie are trying to theorize based on what is happening to them. "This thing is a weapon, it's really bad for us." When it interacts with living species, bad things result. So you see little worms and when the black goop gets on the little worms we see what happens to them. And when Fifield gets it all over his face mask, we see what happens to him. When Holloway just has a drop of it in a glass of champagne, we see what happens to him.

We wanted to be purposefully vague, (but steer) the audience towards some conclusions as to what that stuff was supposed to do: Is it supposed to kill you? Is it supposed to transform youwhich seems like the most obvious choiceand to what end? Like, why in God's name would the engineers want to create abominations out of mankind? Some of these questions we wanted to answer directly and some of these questions we didn't want to answer directly, which sets you up for a certain level of frustration and disappointment that I am well familiar with, but I'll take it any day of the week because I also feel like it forces you to fire your own imagination.

We clearly have answers for those questions ourselves that we did not present in the movie purposefully, not just because we're saving them for potential sequels, but because the power of the original Alienor even Blade Runneris that to a certain degree, we're giving you all the numbers in the equation but we're not adding them up for you. And that's intentional.


In Prometheus, there's an Alien evolution of sorts, but how it works isn't explained in the movie. Was there an internal logic to how it worked?

It's not arbitrary. (But) the movie has to speak for itself. I will say that the theory that is formed by Shaw by the end of the moviethat the black goo is some sort of weapon and it is headed towards earth and if it gets there the result is going to be terrible(is) based on the information that she has in the movie, but that's not necessarily the correct deduction for her to make. The audience is privy to pieces of the story that Shaw is not. I hope that the movie is one of those films that (is rewarding on) subsequent viewings as opposed to more confusing and more frustrating.


Did you do any research, beyond rewatching the movies after your first draft was written? Did you consult any science advisors?

John Spates (sic) did a tremendous amount of research in terms of interspace travel, cryonics, artificial intelligence. You're also married to the original Alien in a lot of waysthis is 30 years before that, so can we present our gadgetry so that it doesn't look like it's backwards, considering that movie was made 30 years ago? The Nostromo was a mining ship. It's going to be completely and totally dressed down. The computers are going to do the bare minimum of computing because its only job is to get from A to B and then mine, whereas the Prometheus is designed as a science vessel to basically answer the meaning of life. So that's the way you get around that issue. And Arthur Max, who was the production designer, designed all the ships and the Alien landscapes, and he had a whole slew of advisors that he (checked with).

There was a NASA guy that came in a couple of times and spoke to Ridley and us about the theoretical realities of extraterrestrial life. If you're trying for it to feel real and there's any degree of veracity, it's absolutely critical to have that stuff. But as a storyteller you kind of have to say: It's really good to know it, but we are writing a movie.

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149. "dope interview."
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167. "I take issue with what he says here."
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>Each Alien parasite affects its host differently. What was the
>idea behind that? Are the parasites altering DNA?
>
>I don't want to talk too specifically about what the black
>goop does. Obviously the characters in the movie are trying to
>theorize based on what is happening to them. "This thing is a
>weapon, it's really bad for us." When it interacts with living
>species, bad things result. So you see little worms and when
>the black goop gets on the little worms we see what happens to
>them. And when Fifield gets it all over his face mask, we see
>what happens to him. When Holloway just has a drop of it in a
>glass of champagne, we see what happens to him.
>
>We wanted to be purposefully vague, (but steer) the audience
>towards some conclusions as to what that stuff was supposed to
>do: Is it supposed to kill you? Is it supposed to transform
>youwhich seems like the most obvious choiceand to what end?
>Like, why in God's name would the engineers want to create
>abominations out of mankind? Some of these questions we wanted
>to answer directly and some of these questions we didn't want
>to answer directly, which sets you up for a certain level of
>frustration and disappointment that I am well familiar with,
>but I'll take it any day of the week because I also feel like
>it forces you to fire your own imagination.
>
>We clearly have answers for those questions ourselves that we
>did not present in the movie purposefully, not just because
>we're saving them for potential sequels, but because the power
>of the original Alienor even Blade Runneris that to a
>certain degree, we're giving you all the numbers in the
>equation but we're not adding them up for you. And that's
>intentional.

Alien and Blade Runner do that, yes, but they also don't have a seemingly random set of rules (or no rules) to abide by. They at their core have very basic and easy-to-understand rules. If you're dealing with primordial goop with different effects on everything and everyone which has been developed for no clear reason and is being stored for no clear reason and is being taken to Earth for no clear reason and all we have are unreliable resources hypothesizing why they're doing these things, you need to provide SOMETHING for us to grasp onto, Damon! I mean, fuck.

I'm so torn on this movie, because it's insanely gorgeous and the super ambitious stuff that does work works so incredibly well. But Jesus Christ, the character motivations are either severely lacking or change from scene to scene based on plot convenience.

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194. "no it doesnt"
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that's ur beef. the questions surrounding the primordial goop and what it does or doesn't do are holes i'm perfectly fine filling in myself. also not one character's motivation seemed to waver too greatly in the whole film. what are you talking about

  

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185. "Instead of an Alien prequel, I heard the sequel will bridge the gap w/ "
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Blade Runner

If it's true & he (Ridley) can pull it off then I'm really intrigued.
I just don't know if I'd rather see the replicant/android gap bridged or a better understanding of the space jockey/alien relationship


>We wanted to be purposefully vague, (but steer) the audience
>towards some conclusions as to what that stuff was supposed to
>do: Is it supposed to kill you? Is it supposed to transform
>youwhich seems like the most obvious choiceand to what end?
>Like, why in God's name would the engineers want to create
>abominations out of mankind? Some of these questions we wanted
>to answer directly and some of these questions we didn't want
>to answer directly, which sets you up for a certain level of
>frustration and disappointment that I am well familiar with,
>but I'll take it any day of the week because I also feel like
>it forces you to fire your own imagination.
>
>We clearly have answers for those questions ourselves that we
>did not present in the movie purposefully, not just because
>we're saving them for potential sequels, but because the power
>of the original Alienor even Blade Runneris that to a
>certain degree, we're giving you all the numbers in the
>equation but we're not adding them up for you. And that's
>intentional.
>

>In Prometheus, there's an Alien evolution of sorts, but how it
>works isn't explained in the movie. Was there an internal
>logic to how it worked?
>
>It's not arbitrary. (But) the movie has to speak for itself. I
>will say that the theory that is formed by Shaw by the end of
>the moviethat the black goo is some sort of weapon and it is
>headed towards earth and if it gets there the result is going
>to be terrible(is) based on the information that she has in
>the movie, but that's not necessarily the correct deduction
>for her to make. The audience is privy to pieces of the story
>that Shaw is not. I hope that the movie is one of those films
>that (is rewarding on) subsequent viewings as opposed to more
>confusing and more frustrating.

sOmEone's gonna be mad about this as it sounds like he's Following the Nolan blueprint here

  

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144. "anyone notice the line..."
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SPOILER




"we... ARE...LEAVING!" spoken in the same manner, tone, and worry that was in Aliens?

  

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150. "I thought it was great"
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not as great as it thinks it is, but still there's a lot to like. Maybe my fave studio movie so far this year, it manages to ask some questions that usually belong in Malick movies, without the pedantry (I love Malick but Tree Of Life was a little over-the-top in that aspect). Speaking of which those opening shots in Iceland were spectacular.
Definitely some loose ends in the plot, but I was so taken by the flick that i missed if any of them were glaring. Fassbender and Rapace were fantastic, but really all the actors were good (special shout-out to Ryan Atwood's big bro. I have no idea how he finagled that part but he nailed it).
I gotta say i'm very happy with my decision to stay away from all the videos and spoilerific info that have been showing up on movie blogs these part months. I kinda hate how much Hollywood tries to oversell flicks these days, but I guess I must be in the minority.

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151. "thought it was ok, not too bad, plot was meh,but"
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Lindlelof had a hand in writing the script so no surprise...lol
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153. "It was ok"
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Visuals did their job
Great cast they also did their job
Not sure what t was plot?
Wasn't expecting much plot anyway

Not sure but it was just aiight
Not great
But not bad


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154. "Woulda liked it more if it WASN'T a prequel, frankly. (spoilers)"
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It suffers in Act 3 from what all prequels suffer from, the need to get cutesy and show the audience, "Look! It's that thing!" The final 15 minutes are supposed to make me geek out... but whoever really wanted to see a movie explaining in great detail what the Space Jockey was? When we should be seeing some sort of character resolution, we're going out of our way to show the genesis of the alien-- without the burden of being a prequel, I wonder if the film could have ended in a more satisfying way, allowing the film to stand alone.

The visuals are extraordinary. Simply incredible. Cinematog and Effects Oscar noms and maybe wins. Fassbender was fantastic, as was Rapace-- the rest are fine but don't have too much to do. Guy Pearce was a distraction.

For a movie with such smarts when it came to philosophy and technology, certain things seemed pretty arbitrary and confusing-- why did dude come back to the ship as an angry extra-strong guy? Why, when LMG ingested a drop of it, did he have an alien in his eye, an awesome image that doesn't seem to make much sense? Why does the infection cause sperm to turn to fast-growing aliens? Logic seemed to take backseat to creepiness and visual splendor, which in a regular blockbuster I have zero problem with but in something with so much to offer I get bothered by.

Parts of it left me breathless. Other parts left me frustrated.

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155. "This review sums up my frustrations pretty hilariously:"
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157. "Tom Hardy and Missy Oppossum"
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!

it is going to SUCK to be LMG from here on out because that's all he's getting is that he's a low budget Tom Hardy clone with half the talent! LOL!

This review was hilarious

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160. "i really did think it was tom hardy up until i saw it."
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then i was like wait that's not tom hardy.

lol @ this review tho. even though i enjoyed the movie and will stick up for it, this shit is hilarious.


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201. "ohh was that suppose to be funny?"
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cause it wasn't.

  

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156. "what's becoming hilarious about prometheus"
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is watching the some of the same people who insist lost haters are a. wrong, b. wrong because they wanted answers (which was never true), c. wrong for wanting answers

suddenly obsessed with not getting answers, reasons and connection

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164. "The difference between Lost and Prometheus is character."
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With Lost, there were compelling characters with interesting backstories. Even when shit didn't make any sense (i.e. many times, including the entire final season), you could still be invested in the characters. Here, things don't make sense and you don't get to know the characters over several seasons.

For the record, I enjoyed Lost until the final season which was terrible, but I fully acknowledge how full of shit the writers who claim there was a plan are. There was obviously no plan.

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173. "^^^"
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>With Lost, there were compelling characters with interesting
>backstories. Even when shit didn't make any sense (i.e. many
>times, including the entire final season), you could still be
>invested in the characters. Here, things don't make sense and
>you don't get to know the characters over several seasons.

Exactly...


>For the record, I enjoyed Lost until the final season which
>was terrible, but I fully acknowledge how full of shit the
>writers who claim there was a plan are. There was obviously no
>plan.

*spit take*

Oh, WORD?

And for anyone else reading this, I ain't gonna take part in any back-and-forths. My stance on Lost is well-known and hasn't changed, despite the criticism and trolling and "evidence" that everybody else believes is proof that they were "right."

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174. "Well..."
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... to be fair, I don't recall what exactly Lindelof and Cuse said back in the day that had me heated, but I believe it was something along the lines of that they knew from episode 1 how the series would end and how everything fell into place.

They obviously had a plan in the sense of how TV writers plan a season and set themselves up with something to do the next season, etc. But I seem to recall them saying they were planned ahead from the jump. And there's just no way. I don't feel like going back and looking for the interview that made me mad at the time... but yeah.

I agree that back and forth about LOST, especially with a certain poster already in this thread, is a pointless endeavor, lol.

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241. "^"
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-30-
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159. "i really enjoyed this one, but a couple questions (SPOILERS)"
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what was the procedure she selected to get the alien out of her? cuz i thought the AI for the chamber said it was set for males only

...y'all REALLY think the Engineers were making those prototypes to kill humans? cause that one Engineer seemed to take eveyone in that room out (cept the good doctor who took, the fuck, OFF) with no trouble...seems to me they wouldn't need the prototypes to kill humans, but would rather leave the issue of having those unstable creatures around an "Earth" problem rather than their own...

...why did David set ole boy up as the guinea pig again? ...on first watch, i figured he KNEW dude would impregnate the doctor and wanted to see what would happen, but as the movie went on i wasn't sure if David hated humanity itself, or just most if not all of the humans on that ship.....i still say he manipulates events that lead to what happens in Alien....his reactions to all the humans was GREAT, and i loved his line about destroying something in order to rebuild something else

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161. "RE: i really enjoyed this one, but a couple questions (SPOILERS)"
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well david ideas..

A. He was following orders... he was clearly asked to basically find someway to Extend old dudes life so he would do anything to do that.

B. They shit on him so much as being a "robot" I think he was quietly trying to "create" something of his own.

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162. "RE: i really enjoyed this one, but a couple questions (SPOILERS)"
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Bingo, you it hit on the head...

He was just creating on his own. He was just engineering out of curiosity on what he found. There was no point to it. He was just experimenting, and I believe he intentional picked out Noomi's love interest to prove a point about creation and destruction, because Noomi firmly believed in god and spirituality. David firmly believed that creation is just creation, and everything evolves for the simple purpose of evolving and being experimental. ..DAvid didn't go around infecting everybody. he intentional selected one person.

( It's like scientists creating in the lab for the significance of generating something different, or to create something that has never been created before....but then destroying that creation because it has served its purpose, or because the concept or idea is an old model....THE ENGINEERS were no different, and I'm pretty sure they evolved from something, just like we evolved from primates, and computers and robots are evolving from us...David was trying to prove that to Noomi)

Also, one thing I want to point out which is incredible, remember when david was in the bio-engineering chamber, and he took samples of the black milky substance from the containers? There were no organisms inside the containers, but over time the substance morphed into something...It's like the weapon was some type of biological morphing substance that converted into an organism based on the DNA of the opposite subject, or the person it comes into contact with......Also, the small worms on the ground were the ones that changed into paranormal pythons within minutes of the scientist being in the room.

shit is wild.

My mind is all fucked up in a good way off of this movie..Thank you Ridley!!!!

Also,Also, remember Noomi's love interest transmogrified into some type of superhuman monster after being infected, and the organism that was inside of noomi morphed into an octopus version of the paranormal pythons that were in the chamber.....

  

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205. "^^^ this! lol"
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They obviously put thought into the themes. It's the execution that struggles.

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166. "Answers:"
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>what was the procedure she selected to get the alien out of
>her? cuz i thought the AI for the chamber said it was set for
>males only

Remove foreign body in the lower abdomen. Kinda weird that technology has advanced so far that it can achieve perfect laser surgery but they can't make a machine that handles both genders.

>...y'all REALLY think the Engineers were making those
>prototypes to kill humans? cause that one Engineer seemed to
>take eveyone in that room out (cept the good doctor who took,
>the fuck, OFF) with no trouble...seems to me they wouldn't
>need the prototypes to kill humans, but would rather leave the
>issue of having those unstable creatures around an "Earth"
>problem rather than their own...

Seeing as how there's no motivation on screen for the Engineers to kill us, much less establish an entire arsenal of crazy alien-based weaponry to destroy us, I suppose we have to trust what the outsiders hypothesize.

>...why did David set ole boy up as the guinea pig again? ...on
>first watch, i figured he KNEW dude would impregnate the
>doctor and wanted to see what would happen, but as the movie
>went on i wasn't sure if David hated humanity itself, or just
>most if not all of the humans on that ship.....i still say he
>manipulates events that lead to what happens in Alien....his
>reactions to all the humans was GREAT, and i loved his line
>about destroying something in order to rebuild something else

I'm not convinced dude was following orders from Weyland here. He clearly has beef with Weyland and seems to know full-on that Weyland will be killed when they meet the Engineer. Also, the only person at the end who seems to know why LMG was killed is David himself. So I'd be inclined to believe he has developed an anti-humanity agenda. Except it goes against the beginning, where he clearly wants to be human. And except it goes against the end, where he clearly wants to help the human.

So folks who thought the movie made sense could call him "mischievous" or perhaps "curious" while folks who acknowledge the movie doesn't really make sense could call him "haphazardly written while ingeniously acted."

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178. "RE: Answers:"
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>I'm not convinced dude was following orders from Weyland here.
>He clearly has beef with Weyland and seems to know full-on
>that Weyland will be killed when they meet the Engineer. Also,
>the only person at the end who seems to know why LMG was
>killed is David himself. So I'd be inclined to believe he has
>developed an anti-humanity agenda. Except it goes against the
>beginning, where he clearly wants to be human. And except it
>goes against the end, where he clearly wants to help the
>human.
>
>So folks who thought the movie made sense could call him
>"mischievous" or perhaps "curious" while folks who acknowledge
>the movie doesn't really make sense could call him
>"haphazardly written while ingeniously acted."

i honestly thought he was just a little conflicted on the human hate issue...i think he hated all humans EXCEPT the doctor, and i think the only things he liked about humanity were her and that movie...i in the beginning, he clearly enjoyed having the ship to himself and seemed to want to want to be like the humans in that movie, but then the real humans show up and he realizes that for the most part the real humans can be idiotic assholes, and easily grows to resent them....presented with an place were he can get rid of all, if not most of them, he goes for it....

sidenote: the more i think think about it, the more idiotic and insane Weyland's plan is....why would the Engineer save HIM?? he was gonna threaten him, try to muscle it out of him?? did he hope that he'd just go up and ask and the Engineer would just do it? his whole plan was crazy....

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224. "Possible point of contention on David's motivations:"
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>>...why did David set ole boy up as the guinea pig again?
>...on
>>first watch, i figured he KNEW dude would impregnate the
>>doctor and wanted to see what would happen, but as the movie
>>went on i wasn't sure if David hated humanity itself, or
>just
>>most if not all of the humans on that ship.....i still say
>he
>>manipulates events that lead to what happens in Alien....his
>>reactions to all the humans was GREAT, and i loved his line
>>about destroying something in order to rebuild something
>else
>
>I'm not convinced dude was following orders from Weyland here.
>He clearly has beef with Weyland and seems to know full-on
>that Weyland will be killed when they meet the Engineer. Also,
>the only person at the end who seems to know why LMG was
>killed is David himself. So I'd be inclined to believe he has
>developed an anti-humanity agenda. Except it goes against the
>beginning, where he clearly wants to be human. And except it
>goes against the end, where he clearly wants to help the
>human.
>
>So folks who thought the movie made sense could call him
>"mischievous" or perhaps "curious" while folks who acknowledge
>the movie doesn't really make sense could call him
>"haphazardly written while ingeniously acted."

I'm a little confused by you and a few other people talking about what David "wants" and what his motivations may be. Why do you guys think he can like, dislike, envy, resent, or feel any way about humans at all, one way the other? He *seems* like he has those feelings, but I think those are just projections - I don't think he feels one way or the other about them. I don't think he *feels* anything.

I think he's programmed to develop as much of an understanding about the alien/engineer species as possible, regardless any possible human casualties. (Kind of like in Alien when Ripley saw that the android's mission was specifically to bring back the alien and that the crew was expendable.) I don't think he was pro- or anti-human; I think if keeping humans alive would help him learn about aliens, he would try to keep them alive, but when killing them was necessary to gather data, so be it.

He poisoned Holloway to learn about aliens; he tried to have Shaw birth an alien to learn about aliens; he went looking in the cave to learn about aliens; he tried to save Shaw at the end because...it would presumably lead him to more information about aliens.

I think it might be a mistake to read into his character that he's making any subjective value judgements about any characters in particular or the human race in general. All of his actions seem to be driven by a desire to obtain information about this alien species. Sometimes that means helping people, sometimes it means hurting them, and sometimes it means doing both to the same person.

Then again, that's just kind of loose theory. I honestly didn't spend tons of time fleshing this out in my mind, but it sort of makes sense to me. I rarely see movies in theaters twice, but I might have to with this one.

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225. "all I would say (spoiler)"
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Is that there's a huge difference between the Alien of the first movie and the alien of the sequels.

The alien from the first movie was a perfect killing machine that learned/matured fast and could adapt.

In the sequels it was mostly strength in numbers.

If we're talking about the alien from the first movie, shoot. A ship with that kind of cargo would have been more than enough to wipe out the planet. The Space Jockey dudes wouldn't need to fight anybody.

But yeah, the aliens as portrayed in the other movies, not so much. It's much more apparent that an army with a smart leader would stand a chance.

  

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163. "Best thing on the internet written about Prometheus:"
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apart from the hilarious review Frank Longo posted above

"Prometheus Unbound: What The Movie Was Actually About"

http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1

Very observant and well put. Increased my appreciation twofold and eased my frustrations re: questions, questions, and no answers.

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165. "The problem is that's not on the screen. (spoiler rebuttal)"
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All that stuff about Jesus and the Engineers' backstory and everything else? Not on screen.

In fact, the only time it becomes clear what the Engineers' plan is is when Idris Elba runs on screen and clunkily announces it.

The article also doesn't explain why the enemy's powers have zero rules. Sometimes they're snake aliens. Other times they make people fall apart. Other times they make people super-strong alien zombie guys. Other times they create aliens inside barren wombs. Other times they make little alien worms appear in people's eyeballs.

The article also doesn't explain why characters suddenly change their minds. Best example I can think of: the dude in glasses who wants NOTHING to do with aliens, so much that he leaves the crew to wander in a cave by himself without the map, but when they see an alien mere hours later, he's joking around and trying to touch it. Zero sense.

Unfortunately this is one of those movies where the dumb senseless stuff sinks the smarter ideas the film possesses. It's either the smartest dumb film I've seen or the dumbest smart film I've seen. It's like you can feel a dumb writer trying to inject things that make no sense into a smart script.

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169. "RE: The problem is that's not on the screen. (spoiler rebuttal)"
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Haha I totally agree with you. I thought it was a fun ride, but a total mess (terrible dialogue, inexplicable human behaviour/motivations, total lack of cohesion, elementary questions disguised as deep philosophy). Just thought it was a great read, made the whole experience more worthwhile/fulfilling.

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171. "RE: The problem is that's not on the screen. (spoiler rebuttal)"
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and Lindelof is one of the biggest hacks out there, no doubt.

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180. "on a surface level, I don't see this as a problem"
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>The article also doesn't explain why the enemy's powers have
>zero rules. Sometimes they're snake aliens. Other times they
>make people fall apart. Other times they make people
>super-strong alien zombie guys. Other times they create aliens
>inside barren wombs. Other times they make little alien worms
>appear in people's eyeballs.

why would a human expedition suddenly understand the rules to an alien species? in real life, it's extremely probable that a "first contact" with aliens would be completely unintelligible to us. how an Xbox 360 works would make as much sense to George Washington.

"Dr. Shaw, we analyzed the black goo and discovered it's a changing mutagen, one of hundreds of different bio-weapon species with different effects based on user." that's exposition for exposition's sake. and kind of dumber than just accepting we can't understand it.

HOWEVER.

I do agree about lack of character motivations. them being scientists on such a specific mission ruins the absurdity of many dumb actions. now, I don't mind playing to thrills (in Alien, every time Dallas or Ripley insist they stick together, the crew promptly splinters in the next scene), but it wasn't well done here. so with that in mind, I do think the morphing alien attacks were a writing free pass.

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199. "again wrong"
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the stuff is there, it's there symbolically, which this reviewer does a great job out outlining. but it seems you want shit spelled out for you. whatever.

second its the red haired tattoo-ed guy that wants nothing to do with the goo chamber, its the other scientist who wanted to be his friend, that got scared so ran with him (and somehow they got lost. that part really didn't make sense) that found interest in the worm-snake thing

lastly, the reviewer actually did explain that elements of why the goo makes different things; he explains it as the consciousness of the species it comes in contact with affects its formation. i.e. sacrificial engineer makes life, human's funded by billionaire wanting eternal life brings destruction. i.e. the "we're changing the atmosphere" line

again this movies was great. yall can cry about the supposed plot holes all you want.

i'm just mad my nigga Idris didn't get to smash Charlize on screen to the delight of "post-racial" america

  

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202. "I don't want things spelled out for me."
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I would, however, like them to be consistent.

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233. "No snark, but besides the visuals, what was great about it?"
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The characters were barely there and nobody had an arc, the plot was filled with holes, the action scenes were standard or silly, the central question was answered to the audience in the first scene.

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231. "this is exactly how i felt the whole time"
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>Unfortunately this is one of those movies where the dumb
>senseless stuff sinks the smarter ideas the film possesses.
>It's either the smartest dumb film I've seen or the dumbest
>smart film I've seen. It's like you can feel a dumb writer
>trying to inject things that make no sense into a smart
>script.
>
>

another thing that bugged me was how charlize mentioned in the beginning they spent a trillion dollars to get to that planet, and i'm thinking for a trillion dollars this is the best team you could put together?? really?? these unprofessional rag tag flunkies??

you know, how in the hell did that geologist guy get lost when it was his devices that mapped that shit out AND at one point when asked which way to go he looks down at his monitor and said "my pups are telling me its this way?" wtf?

shit did not make sense.

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183. "i feel better about the movie having read this, but like Longo said"
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it doesn't show up in the movie. if i need to read something this long to appreciate it, it hasn't worked as cinema.

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172. "By the way, despite me being all up in this post..."
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... I do want to see it again. It's likely to frustrate me again, but the imagery is too extraordinary to dismiss the film as a whole.

I forget who tweeted it's the worst movie that they can't wait to see again. I understand that sentiment 100%.

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175. "Visually stunning storywise meh"
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I am going to see it again in Imax because this was by far the best 3d i have seen.

  

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177. "So the guy in charge of mapping gets lost..."
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A trillion dollars buys you a pretty shitty crew.

"Father!" might have been the most pointless revelation I've ever seen.

During tense scenes, the score sounded like one of John Williams's more upbeat cues.

In the future, I guess they decided programming curiosity was a bad idea and didn't do it with the droid in Alien.

Idris Elba's character said it best when he said, "I don't care." I just wanted the movie to end; I didn't care about any questions or answers. The end devolved into bad horror with Noomi surviving unbelievably when the falling ship slams into a rock, doesn't break, and just gets held up. Then the big dude comes for her.

Visually it looked amazing but it was basically a stupid horror movie that floated out big minded ideas to explain why everyone ended up in harm's way.

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179. "yes! the score annoyed me multiple times"
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>During tense scenes, the score sounded like one of John
>Williams's more upbeat cues.

it had this out of place, Star Trek vibe...Idris and Noomi's heart to heart about saving Earth being the worst example

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203. "RE: So the guy in charge of mapping gets lost..."
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Charlize was dumb and kept running in a straight line, smh. Shorty shoulda rolled 12 inches to the left like Noomi.

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206. "RE: So the guy in charge of mapping gets lost..."
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>A trillion dollars buys you a pretty shitty crew.
>
>"Father!" might have been the most pointless revelation I've
>ever seen.
>
>During tense scenes, the score sounded like one of John
>Williams's more upbeat cues.
>
>In the future, I guess they decided programming curiosity was
>a bad idea and didn't do it with the droid in Alien.
>

After 2000 years in a space pod the highly advanced albino goon takes a nice stretch and proceeds to decapitate the robot who just set him free and back slap an elderly gentleman in the face



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181. "disappointing"
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182. "SMS convo between Dr. Shaw and an Engineer:"
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http://enchantedmitten.blogspot.com/2003/12/reading-previous-entries-in-this-series.html

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197. "blah blah blah blah "
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go watch Avengers

  

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186. "I'm surprises no one here..."
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compared it to Danny Boyle's Sunshine when walking out the theater. That's the long lasting impressions it had on me. How both films have the heart and soul of a great sci-fi but ultimately have a messy third act. Watched it last night and still thinking about how Ridley Scott dropped the ball.

  

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189. "I thought about Sunshine a lot while & after watching it"
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& I still don't mind the 3rd acts of either one

  

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196. "This makes Sunshine look like 2001"
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___________________________
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"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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198. "so sunshine is an over-rated visual orgy"
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that becomes canonical movie in the future

i've never seen sunshine

  

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200. "this shit was great"
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207. "Its rare you can point only at the writers for ruining a movie"
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Ridley was on point.*
The actors were on point (and actually fleshed some characterization out of the shreds they were given).

But outside of the basic plot, everything was a fail as a script. People have pointed out a few of the flaws above so no need to go over it again....it was just frustrating watching characters move around strictly because the writers thought of 'great' set pieces or scenes but couldn't figure out a way to work them in logically, lol.

The secret is only a very small amount of Sci-Fi movies pass the test under the magnifying glass...if you look too closely it's not hard to make the logic fall apart(which is why that fake SMS critique of the movie is unfair). However with all the things that make a good movie(plot, characters), throw in some special effects along with some solid future leaning philosophical ideas and you get classic sci-fi. And that's what us nerds really ask for; a good movie, lol.

As much flack as people gave Inception after the fact, it was a MUCH tighter film even with wider plot holes and not as strong set-pieces and performances. It's because the characters behaved the way you expected them to...which is why they could sell preposterious bullshit like 'dreams within a dreams withing a dream, while dreaming another dream'.

Fucking Prometheus has so many great ideas I REALLY REALLY want to believe, and those fucking hack writers robbed me of being able to suspend my belief by how dumb they think we are.






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208. "something else bugs me"
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Why didn't the Engineer just go to another ship when Prometheus crashed into his ship? We know there were other mounds, and I think one of the characters confirmed that there were other ships in those mounds, likely carrying a bunch of of evil goo stuff. Why wouldn't he just go into them and head out? Why chase the last remaining human and risk, however slightly, that the humans could take you out?

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209. "Because Scott was compelled to unite the Engineer and the alien."
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To form the alien from Alien.

That's literally the only reason.

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perhaps he thought she would alert Earth to his mission.

  

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212. "io9: All of Your Lingering Prometheus Questions, Answered!"
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http://io9.com/5917448/all-of-your-lingering-prometheus-questions-answered?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow


All of Your Lingering Prometheus Questions, Answered!
Still full of questions after seeing Ridley Scott's Prometheus? So were we so we asked everyone we could get a hold of, from the actor who played scientist Charlie Holloway (Logan Marshall-Green) to screenwriter Damon Lindelof. And anything we couldn't ask somebody, we found out online. It's the ultimate answer guide to all your pressing Prometheus questions.
Why is Holloway such a jerk to David?

Logan Marshall-Green: It's something that I wanted to implement and I really, really liked it. Michael and I had a blast with it. It's something I haven't seen in science fiction, which is a sense of racism or bigotry towards androids and synthetic life. I think synthetic life is inevitable, and along that line bigotry and racism (if you will) will be inevitable as well. Although I can't approach a role thinking of as a racist or a bigot. Certainly now I can look back and explain his disdain for Michael in that way. I kind of loved it, just because I haven't seen that approach, that social reflection on a future being, a synthetic android.


What was David's motivation for "infecting" Holloway with black goop?

Damon Lindelof: I say that the short answer is: That's his programming. In the scene preceding him doing that, he is talking to Weyland (although we don't know it at the time) and he's telling Weyland that this is a bust. That they haven't found anything on this mission other than the stuff in the vials. And Weyland presumably says to him, "Well, what's in the vials?" And David would say, "I'm not entirely sure, we'll have to run some experiments." And Weyland would say, "What would happen if you put it in inside a person?" And David would say, "I don't know, I'll go find out." He doesn't know that he's poisoning Holloway, he asks Holloway, "What would you be willing to do to get the answers to your questions?" Holloway says, "Anything and everything." And that basically overrides whatever ethical programming David is mandated by, to spike his drink.

Logan Marshall-Green:My definition of a robot, or at least a self-sustained robot, is to put together information. As much information as possible and data. To build on data. The only way they're going to grow is to build on data. You meet David collecting data instantly. I think he probably hit a wall (so to speak) with this mission. They all hit a wall, at first, with this mission. And going back to his father, Weyland, and he's told to "try harder." I think he understands that he will have to sacrifice a human life in order to achieve that collection of data.

David has been watching Lawrence of Arabia while the crew of Prometheus was in stasis for two years, why that movie?

Lindelof: Ridley and I started talking about Lawrence of Arabia, for some reason, very early on in our process. I'm a huge David Lean fan we were talking about The Bridge on the River Kwai and then Peter O'Toole etc. etc. we just started saying oh what if David was just obsessed with Lawrence of Arabia? Why would he be obsessed with Lawrence of Arabia, and i think the short answer was: Lawrence is a stranger in a strange land. A white man who is entirely different, ultimately becomes the most pivotal figure in that movie, independent of his differences. That felt slightly analogical to what we wanted to do with David.



What is Lindelof's obsession with rich old men who ruin their kids lives?

Lindelof: Well, I will say that I haven't had any experience with rich old men who have ruined my life. Some less rich old men who have been wonderful role models. But I think that the Keynesian "rich old man with nefarious intent" is a classic character in both regular fiction and both straight up genre. And just too delicious to resist.

On that same note, we've seen Lindelof tackle childbirth before specifically women losing the ability to have children or having it bastardized in some way in Lost. Why was it important to weave human pregnancy into Prometheus?

Lindelof: I think hardwired into the original Alien is this idea of fertility. This idea of, for lack of a better way of looking at it, the sperm and the egg need each other to in order to form a new life. And in this gestational construct, the human being is the egg and the sperm is represented (in the original Alien) by a face hugger. And in Prometheus it's represented in a different way. I just feel like the idea of taking these three generations of creators (so the Engineers who created us, then us, and our creation synthetic human beings the robot David). We're going to take those three generations, we're gonna lock them in a room together, we're gonna watch them have sex with each other. And then we're going to see what comes out. That was the experiment that Prometheus was running. And whether it was successful or whether it was a failure, it sure was fun to write.

Have they actually mapped out a motivation for the Engineers, is it supposed to remain ambiguous? Will they be mysterious forever, or can we figure them out if we pay enough attention? Was it deliberate or if they felt like they offered enough hints to the dedicated viewer, where we never really know what the advanced aliens wanted?

Lindelof: Ridley definitely had very specific answers to those questions and we talked a lot about how we wanted to put those answers into Prometheus. And whether or not we wanted to hold any of them back. It's a little bit obnoxious to say, "well if you like this movie, we'll give that stuff to you in the sequel." So you have to have a fair shot at being able to extrapolate based on the information in this movie. But I do feel like, embedded in this movie are the fundamental ideas behind why it is the Engineers would want to wipe us out. If that's the question that you're asking. The movie asks the question, were we created by these beings? And it answers that question very definitively. But in the wake of that answer there's a new question, which is, they created us but now they want to destroy us, why did they change their minds? That's the question that Shaw is asking at the end of this movie, the one that she wants answered. I do think that there are a lot of hints in this movie that we give you quite and educated guess as to why. But obviously not to the detriment of what Shaw might find when she goes to talk to these things herself.

Is Prometheus anti-science?

Lindelof: It's definitely not anti-science. In fact, if anything I think it's pro-science because it advances the idea that part of our own programming as human beings, we're many ways just as governed by our programming as David is. We have to seek out the answers to these questions, even though we know we'll never get satisfying answers. We're curious about what happens as we die. We need to know where we come from. What the meaning of life is. What kind of life we're supposed to lead. These are all sort of nonscientific, philosophical, religious, and spiritual questions. But the idea that we can find some comfort in science, that science can sort of give us a path to follow in understanding our roots. I think we're better off from understanding that we're descended from apes than we are looking at some book that was written 2000 years ago that gives us an explanation for our own roots.

I'm most definitively pro-science, but I think that the movie advances the idea that, can the two live along side each other? Is it possible to be a scientist and maintain some fungible faith in the unknown? And are you rewarded for having blind faith? I do think that the movie is making the meta-commentary in saying well Shaw is the true believer on board, and she's the one who survives. So what are we trying to say by telling that story?

Do the aliens want us to visit them?

In an interview with IGN, this question is addressed but Lindelof only answers with more questions.

Lindelof: That's an excellent question and one that I'm not going to answer. But I will say that there's something fascinating about humanity where we perceive it as an invitation. You look at a cave wall, there's somebody pointing at some distant planets, and one interpretation is "This is where we come from" another is "We want you to come here." Where are we drawing that from? I think another thing that's interesting about the system that they visit is that the moon the land on in Prometheus is LV 223. And we know LV 426 is where the action takes place in Alien, so are they even in the right place? And how close are they to the place that these aliens on cave walls were directing them. Were they just extrapolating "This is the system that has the sun with the sustainable life." So there's a lot of guesswork. There's a small line in the movie where David and Holloway are talking about David's deconstruction of the language based on Holloway's thesis, and he says "If your thesis is correct" and Holloway says "If it's correct?" and David says "That's why they call it a thesis Doctor." And the reason we threw that in there is that we're dealing with a highly hypothetical area in terms of who these beings are, what, if any invitation they issued, and who is responsible for making those cave paintings. And did something happen in between when those cave paintings were made tens of thousands of years ago and our arrival now, in 2093, 2,000 years after these things have perished. Did something happen in the intermediate period that we should be thinking about?

What is David saying to the engineers?

MTV News got this answer as part of a lengthy email exchange with Lindeloff, which also reveals whether Vickers is a robot or not.

When David communicates with one of the Engineers late in the film, what the hell does he say to get them so angry? Did you actually script what that dialogue would have been in our language?

Yes. David's dialogue with the Engineer has an English translation, but Ridley felt very strongly about not subtitling it. I spoke at length about this on my DVD commentary

Was David's basketball toss a nod to Alien Resurrection?

Crave Online has the answer:

Lindelof: I do think that there are a lot of tips of the cap in Prometheus to all of those movies and I think it's so easy to sit back and rag on mistakes made or wrong paths turned down. But at the end of the day, every single one of those movies I feel had good things in them and an articulation of fondness. All I'll say in response to your question is, nothing is an accident in Prometheus. Every single decision that is made by Ridley Scott is made for a very specific reason and purpose.

What did we miss? What other questions do you have? Fill the comments and we'll try and tackle them.
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213. "When y'all stop* being mad at Lindelof, you should read the MTV emails"
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in addition to this mamajahambo up above

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1687022/prometheus-secrets-damon-lindelof.jhtml


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215. "I have been digging *ALL* of the spoilers"
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and analysis pages, etc. people have been putting up of this movie.

Granted, it wasn't a great movie, but the kind of curiousity folk are expressing at finding the answers to the questions this movie raises has been cool and it's been fun reading people's interpretations of this movie.

And, I'm going to watch it again this weekend on IMAX.

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222. "I agree, I'm digging the discussion as well nm"
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228. "thing is, he didn't do a good job of putting these elements"
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in the film, because too many folks have the same concerns/questions.

None of those explanations are evident in the work. That's a problem

  

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229. "*takes advice goes for a walk*"
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>*or at least take a lengthy break from it and get some fresh
>air


not mad
but just in case i suppressed it
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214. "RE: io9: All of Your Lingering Prometheus Questions, Answered!"
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Aight, I'ma go ahead out of the kindness of my heart and translate all this shit for ya'll.

>Why is Holloway such a jerk to David?
>
>Logan Marshall-Green: It's something that I wanted to
>implement and I really, really liked it. Michael and I had a
>blast with it. It's something I haven't seen in science
>fiction, which is a sense of racism or bigotry towards
>androids and synthetic life.

wtf? how about in the second movie of the series, ALIENS. Ripley is repulsed by Bishop after finding out he's an android. How about iRobot, Terminator, Blade Runner (WHAT THE ENTIRE MOVIE WAS BASED ON), Star Wars "We don't serve their kind here" ... etc, etc. This is literally one of the dumbest statements ever made.


>What was David's motivation for "infecting" Holloway with
>black goop?
>
>Damon Lindelof: I say that the short answer is: That's his
>programming. In the scene preceding him doing that, he is
>talking to Weyland (although we don't know it at the time) and
>he's telling Weyland that this is a bust. That they haven't
>found anything on this mission other than the stuff in the
>vials. And Weyland presumably says to him, "Well, what's in
>the vials?" And David would say, "I'm not entirely sure, we'll
>have to run some experiments." And Weyland would say, "What
>would happen if you put it in inside a person?" And David
>would say, "I don't know, I'll go find out." He doesn't know
>that he's poisoning Holloway, he asks Holloway, "What would
>you be willing to do to get the answers to your questions?"
>Holloway says, "Anything and everything." And that basically
>overrides whatever ethical programming David is mandated by,
> to spike his drink.

^^^Translation: "blah blah blah... cuz he was programmed to!" great, thanks for that revealing bit of info. So basically the robot coerced the human against his will by tricking him. what a TERRIBLE explanation.



>What is Lindelof's obsession with rich old men who ruin their
>kids lives?
>
>Lindelof: Well, I will say that I haven't had any experience
>with rich old men who have ruined my life. Some less rich old
>men who have been wonderful role models. But I think that the
>Keynesian "rich old man with nefarious intent" is a classic
>character in both regular fiction and both straight up genre.
>And just too delicious to resist.

^^^ Translation: "I don't know but thought it would be cool to put it in the script."

>On that same note, we've seen Lindelof tackle childbirth
>before specifically women losing the ability to have children
>or having it bastardized in some way in Lost. Why was it
>important to weave human pregnancy into Prometheus?
>
>Lindelof: I think hardwired into the original Alien is this
>idea of fertility. This idea of, for lack of a better way of
>looking at it, the sperm and the egg need each other to in
>order to form a new life. And in this gestational construct,
>the human being is the egg and the sperm is represented (in
>the original Alien) by a face hugger. And in Prometheus it's
>represented in a different way. I just feel like the idea of
>taking these three generations of creators (so the Engineers
>who created us, then us, and our creation synthetic human
>beings the robot David). We're going to take those three
>generations, we're gonna lock them in a room together, we're
>gonna watch them have sex with each other. And then we're
>going to see what comes out. That was the experiment that
>Prometheus was running. And whether it was successful or
>whether it was a failure, it sure was fun to write.

^^^ last sentence says it all... "WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS SUCCESSFUL, I WAS GONNA WRITE THE SHIT ANYWAY." So basically he's saying I don't give a fuck if this works or not, I just felt like throwing it in there so i did.

>Have they actually mapped out a motivation for the Engineers,
>is it supposed to remain ambiguous? Will they be mysterious
>forever, or can we figure them out if we pay enough attention?
>Was it deliberate or if they felt like they offered enough
>hints to the dedicated viewer, where we never really know what
>the advanced aliens wanted?
>
>Lindelof: Ridley definitely had very specific answers to those
>questions and we talked a lot about how we wanted to put those
>answers into Prometheus. And whether or not we wanted to hold
>any of them back. It's a little bit obnoxious to say, "well if
>you like this movie, we'll give that stuff to you in the
>sequel." So you have to have a fair shot at being able to
>extrapolate based on the information in this movie. But I do
>feel like, embedded in this movie are the fundamental ideas
>behind why it is the Engineers would want to wipe us out. If
>that's the question that you're asking. The movie asks the
>question, were we created by these beings? And it answers that
>question very definitively. But in the wake of that answer
>there's a new question, which is, they created us but now they
>want to destroy us, why did they change their minds? That's
>the question that Shaw is asking at the end of this movie, the
>one that she wants answered. I do think that there are a lot
>of hints in this movie that we give you quite and educated
>guess as to why. But obviously not to the detriment of what
>Shaw might find when she goes to talk to these things
>herself.

^^^ Translation "Blah blah blah... I'm gonna answer your question by rewording it and asking you the same thing only use 30 sentences to do so. I'm an awesome guy!"

>Is Prometheus anti-science? >earlier in our spoiler free interview with Lindelof, but here
>is his spoiler filled response.]

>Do the aliens want us to visit them?
>
>In an interview with IGN, this question is addressed but
>Lindelof only answers with more questions.
>
>Lindelof: That's an excellent question and one that I'm not
>going to answer. But I will say that there's something
>fascinating about humanity where we perceive it as an
>invitation. You look at a cave wall, there's somebody pointing
>at some distant planets, and one interpretation is "This is
>where we come from" another is "We want you to come here."
>Where are we drawing that from? I think another thing that's
>interesting about the system that they visit is that the moon
>the land on in Prometheus is LV 223. And we know LV 426 is
>where the action takes place in Alien, so are they even in the
>right place? And how close are they to the place that these
>aliens on cave walls were directing them. Were they just
>extrapolating "This is the system that has the sun with the
>sustainable life." So there's a lot of guesswork. There's a
>small line in the movie where David and Holloway are talking
>about David's deconstruction of the language based on
>Holloway's thesis, and he says "If your thesis is correct" and
>Holloway says "If it's correct?" and David says "That's why
>they call it a thesis Doctor." And the reason we threw that in
>there is that we're dealing with a highly hypothetical area in
>terms of who these beings are, what, if any invitation they
>issued, and who is responsible for making those cave
>paintings. And did something happen in between when those cave
>paintings were made tens of thousands of years ago and our
>arrival now, in 2093, 2,000 years after these things have
>perished. Did something happen in the intermediate period that
>we should be thinking about?

^^^Translation: "Blah blah blah... i'm gonna reword your question AGAIN and then come up with 10 irrelevant questions of my own, all while not answering the initial question whatsoever. I'm a cool dude!

>What is David saying to the engineers?
>
>MTV News got this answer as part of a lengthy email exchange
>with Lindeloff, which also reveals whether Vickers is a robot
>or not.
>
>When David communicates with one of the Engineers late in the
>film, what the hell does he say to get them so angry? Did you
>actually script what that dialogue would have been in our
>language?
>
>Yes. David's dialogue with the Engineer has an English
>translation, but Ridley felt very strongly about not
>subtitling it. I spoke at length about this on my DVD
>commentary

^^^Translation: "We don't know wtf that nigga said, we just wanted him to say something before goon albino decapitated him."


And there you have it... Lingering questions answered!


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216. "I really didn't care for Logan Marshall-Green's character"
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>>Logan Marshall-Green: It's something that I wanted to
>>implement and I really, really liked it. Michael and I had a
>>blast with it. It's something I haven't seen in science
>>fiction, which is a sense of racism or bigotry towards
>>androids and synthetic life.
>
>wtf? how about in the second movie of the series, ALIENS.
>Ripley is repulsed by Bishop after finding out he's an
>android. How about iRobot, Terminator, Blade Runner (WHAT THE
>ENTIRE MOVIE WAS BASED ON), Star Wars "We don't serve their
>kind here" ... etc, etc. This is literally one of the dumbest
>statements ever made.

wasn't sure if it was the script or his acting. after that statement, I'm leaning towards the latter.

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217. "^^^ Translation: YOU MAD....."
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let it go homie, all the answers and non answers make sense, esp the first one, cause it was HIS recollection of SciFi movies which may be pretty limited.....

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223. "seriously"
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>let it go homie, all the answers and non answers make sense,
>esp the first one, cause it was HIS recollection of SciFi
>movies which may be pretty limited.....

I can understand having questions, being baffled, or even totally dismissing the movie, but that level of anger towards a movie is insane.

  

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230. "The problem is that they opened with the answer"
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Lindelof: "The movie asks the question, were we created by these beings? And it answers that question very definitively. But in the wake of that answer there's a new question, which is, they created us but now they want to destroy us, why did they change their minds? That's the question that Shaw is asking at the end of this movie, the one that she wants answered."

My problem with this thinking is that they pretty much answered that question with the very first scene. Then the next two hours were watching a group of 17 (4 of whom were actually invested at all with this question) trying to catch up with us so they could ask a new question.

Also, the matter of fertility that he mentions earlier in the interview was almost completely random in this one. The entire "I can't have a baby" moment was unnecessary. Ripley lost a child and it gave her extra motivation to look after Newt. Shaw couldn't have a baby and when she found out she was pregnant... she immediately wanted it out of her anyway.

And that's the problem here, almost nothing matters. There are countless scenes, like the fertility moment, that could be lost without changing anything.
On top of that, nobody has any sort of arc. Charlize's character should have been the one to survive; gone from not believing to wanting to finish the job. And flamethrowing that dude could have been played as her doing the right thing even if people didn't think it was humane. Although how, after they'd already seen an infected Engineer head explode, anyone thought letting dude on board was a good idea was beyond me. I mean, the lack of protocol on that ship was astonishing.
(Meanwhile, Shaw actually does a kind of 360 - wanting to go, wanting to leave, to wanting to go to the next planet.)
Half of the stuff we learn about people doesn't matter, like when the guy who doesn't want friends stays by the cowardly biologist who inexplicably plays with an alien snake (mind you, moments after seeing the hologram of beings three times his size running in fear and then found piled up dead. It doesn't take a scientist to know that the one remaining living being might not be friendly.)

Again, it was like Lindelof worked off of an outline and had to stick to that outline regardless of how little sense things made and then ended up with this mess of a script. Asking big questions is fine but when, in doing so, you create a ton of little questions for which you have no explanation, you've done it wrong.


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218. "Greatest episode of Ancient Aliens ever."
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<rimshot>
hah! nicely done!


have you listened to
her stuff?
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232. "i think people missed the whole point of the intro scene (spoiler)"
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the first engineer on earth who sacrificed himself drank the same black goo that was on the alien planet in the containers. him drinking that goo directly dissolved him down to his dna, his dna then merged with whatever other host were near him in that water.
the goo is the substance that makes whatever it merges with into another lifeform. it transformed the worms in the cave into face sucking super leeches. it transformed oldboy and girls love child into a super octopus monster. that's what it does.

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234. "DNA doesn't really work like that though"
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Loose DNA just doesn't merge with stuff. And that also means that the Engineers didn't invent life on Earth or anywhere because for your transformation idea to happen requires the existence of another life form to get leached onto by the alien DNA. And how we came about on Earth doesn't really make sense because when the goo was introduced between two humans, what was born wasn't a superhuman but a COMPLETELY different species - a facesucking octopus.

So if you're theory is right, I guess we were evolved from octupii and the answer of "Where did life come from?" isn't really answered because there was life on the planet before we were mutated into being by the goo.

Nevermind that Scott and Lindleoff have said that that planet might not have even been Earth.

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235. "RE: DNA doesn't really work like that though"
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>Loose DNA just doesn't merge with stuff. And that also means
>that the Engineers didn't invent life on Earth or anywhere
>because for your transformation idea to happen requires the
>existence of another life form to get leached onto by the
>alien DNA. And how we came about on Earth doesn't really make
>sense because when the goo was introduced between two humans,
>what was born wasn't a superhuman but a COMPLETELY different
>species - a facesucking octopus.
>

using an earthly mind it doesn't. nor is there anything known as super glue or super humanoids from billion mile away galaxies that we know of. good scifi requires a certain suspension of beliefs.


>So if you're theory is right, I guess we were evolved from
>octupii and the answer of "Where did life come from?" isn't
>really answered because there was life on the planet before we
>were mutated into being by the goo.

"in order to build you must first destroy". they never said earth didn't have any life. just lacked intelligent life. life lacked sentience.


>
>Nevermind that Scott and Lindleoff have said that that planet
>might not have even been Earth.

they will play and toy with this due to marketing. you make more money doling out medicine than you do by making a cure.

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238. "So it's fantasy."
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"good scifi requires a certain suspension of beliefs."

I couldn't disagree more about a statement than this. If it requires a suspension of beliefs than it is not SCIENCE-Fiction. If you look at it based on science and then say, "No, you can't look at it that way." then it's not science-fiction, it's fantasy and all you have to say is "Well, that goo is magic!"

You can't open a film with DNA exploding and then say, "Uh, no, you have to ignore how DNA actually works..."

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247. "SCIENCE fiction or science FICTION..."
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just depends on which one you want to put more emphasis in. do we really need to go there though? as it stands now, the only fact we have is that we (humans) are the super powered aliens of the known galaxy. we are the advanced creatures. we have the power to create and destroy life on a universal scale. etc. etc. etc. i choose not to get caught up in semantic debates though. we can agree to disagree my friend.

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255. "You started off by telling people they missed the point"
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And then when the flaws were shown in your point, you said, "Oh well, you just have to ignore those things." which was exactly Frank's initial point - there are a lot of holes that need to be overlooked.

Your post wasn't an answer, it was just another example of something people are just supposed to roll with and overlook so that they can eventually get to the end and ask "Why the guys who have never really been explained all that well doing this thing that hasn't really made much sense?"

And the reason is because we killed Jesus Christ, who, it turns out, was one of the aliens.

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Frank Longo
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236. "Why didn't it evolve Earth life into super powered creatures then?"
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I think the point of the opening scene is clear, but all we see it do is turn things into super strong deformed prior versions of themselves. Is a human a super strong and deformed version of a paramecium or whatever?

There just seemed to be no distinct identifiable manner in which the goo evolved things. Or the alien DNA in the water. Or whatever. It seems a little too convenient to merely say "well it's alien DNA, it can do whatever it wants." Like, doesn't alien DNA have rules too? lol

I'm all for movies that allow for thought and filling in gaps... there's just soooo many gaps to fill here.

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237. "I took it as one of two things..."
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Either the 'goo' used on earth had since been modified and spun out of control (which lead to the collapse of the engineers base) or it takes different form based on the energy that surrounds it (giving the line about the Prometheus crew changing the environment more meaning)

"I'm all for movies that allow for thought and filling in gaps... there's just soooo many gaps to fill here"

I think a lot of what you're calling gaps are pieces of a puzzle that were left out intentionally... for me it's added to the movie not detracted from it. I would have had a bigger problem with a movie about the origins and meaning of life wrapping up neatly inside two hours.
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248. "you pretty much nailed it"
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>Either the 'goo' used on earth had since been modified and
>spun out of control (which lead to the collapse of the
>engineers base) or it takes different form based on the energy
>that surrounds it (giving the line about the Prometheus crew
>changing the environment more meaning)
>
>"I'm all for movies that allow for thought and filling in
>gaps... there's just soooo many gaps to fill here"
>
>I think a lot of what you're calling gaps are pieces of a
>puzzle that were left out intentionally... for me it's added
>to the movie not detracted from it. I would have had a bigger
>problem with a movie about the origins and meaning of life
>wrapping up neatly inside two hours.


there would be no debate if all questions were answered, if all things were explained in 2 hours. there'd be no need for a part 2. ridley scott is the master of directors cuts. this was intentionally left void to make more money in my opinion.

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268. "RE: you pretty much nailed it"
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you guys are debating the overarching existential elements of the film but independent of the whole "where did we come from?" question, the film is littered with smaller logical flaws. I think that's what most people take issue with.

2001 pretty much left us with our thumb up our ass but the details were meticulously fleshed out.

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270. "I never cared much for 2001"
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>2001 pretty much left us with our thumb up our ass but the
>details were meticulously fleshed out.

I know it's loved by many and that's fine... it just never really struck a cord with me *shrugs*

And I agree there are more than a few flaws with Prometheus but the big picture things were left out for a reason... I just don't agree with those that think they just weren't well thought out in advance.
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298. "I wanted something in between these two points:"
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>pieces of a
>puzzle that were left out intentionally

a movie about the origins and meaning of life
>wrapping up neatly inside two hours.

Because a few of those puzzle pieces felt like pieces to a puzzle that wouldn't ever click together.

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