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surelock

Tue Jul-18-00 03:56 PM

  
"Common Is an Alcholic Right Y'all?"


          

Am I the only one who thinks Common is an alcholic? He says many a line about his battle with alcohol and his troubles with it. So he is an alcholic right? Y'all?


  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Ask someone who cares
Jul 18th 2000
1
nunya
BTMBQHKDR
Jul 18th 2000
2
RE: Common Is an Alcholic Right Y'all?
Dulce478
Jul 18th 2000
3
if that's what he told you in his verses
shockalicious
Jul 18th 2000
4
RE: if that's what he told you in his verses
Dulce478
Jul 18th 2000
7
      <face down, hand clasping face> count to ten, shock..
shockalicious
Jul 18th 2000
8
Actually, I think he is because
Jul 18th 2000
5
bwahahahha
angieee
Jul 18th 2000
6
      RE: bwahahahha
Jul 19th 2000
38
funny you ask
Jul 18th 2000
9
actually ...
Jul 18th 2000
10
Spread Love not Rumors
Bonafide54
Jul 19th 2000
11
      I drink Heineken and Sam A.
Blizz
Jul 19th 2000
12
Common is NOT a Muslim
angieee
Jul 19th 2000
16
      RE: Common is NOT a Muslim
Jul 19th 2000
34
      bwahahahhhaa
Jul 20th 2000
43
      RE: Common is NOT a Muslim
cantlie
Jul 21st 2000
47
           he also said
Jul 23rd 2000
52
I don't know why everyone...
Jul 19th 2000
13
Check these references..
Jul 19th 2000
17
      Wow
Jul 19th 2000
18
      damn!
angieee
Jul 19th 2000
19
           RE: damn!
Jul 19th 2000
26
                so you know
angieee
Jul 19th 2000
29
                     I don't KNOW anything
Jul 19th 2000
30
                     to angiee
Jul 19th 2000
42
No, he's not...
Jul 19th 2000
14
All this alchol talk
Jul 19th 2000
15
RE: All this alchol talk
Congalero
Jul 19th 2000
24
Its not important but...
Jul 19th 2000
20
Good Point..
Jul 19th 2000
22
he is
Jul 19th 2000
21
inebriation
Jul 19th 2000
23
Once again...
Jul 19th 2000
25
delusional
Jul 19th 2000
27
      No...
Jul 19th 2000
28
           RE: No...
retrospect
Jul 19th 2000
31
                I know I said I was done..
Jul 19th 2000
32
                I know I said I was done..
Jul 19th 2000
33
                     common is a DR. PEPPER!!!!
Smak-YaK
Jul 19th 2000
35
                     Just to make sure...
retrospect
Jul 19th 2000
37
                          Right.......
Jul 19th 2000
39
Common
Jul 19th 2000
36
RE: Common
Jul 19th 2000
41
So What's the word Mo-fos?
surelock
Jul 19th 2000
40
my question is...
Jul 20th 2000
44
RE: Common Is an Alcholic Right Y'all?
bugginout!
Jul 20th 2000
45
RE: Common Is an Alcholic Right Y'all?
DeVonne-in-Atlanta
Jul 20th 2000
46
RE: Common Is an Alcholic Right Y'all?
surelock
Jul 22nd 2000
48
RE: Common Is an Alcholic Right Y'all?
bugginout!
Jul 22nd 2000
49
RE: Common Is an Alcholic Right Y'all?
Jul 22nd 2000
51
RE: Common Is an Alcholic Right Y'all?
Jul 22nd 2000
50
GUESS NOT...
storm
Jul 24th 2000
53

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1. "Ask someone who cares"
In response to Reply # 0


          

I think that you are a crackhead becasue you have posted many a item that is rumor mongering.

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BTMBQHKDR

Tue Jul-18-00 04:05 PM

  
2. "nunya"
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Hey...have you guys seen THIS post? it's swell!
http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/general2/14424.html


VOTE FOR COMMON "THE LIGHT" AT

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Dulce478

Tue Jul-18-00 05:09 PM

  
3. "RE: Common Is an Alcholic Right Y'all?"
In response to Reply # 0


          

When does Common say that he's had trouble with alcohol?

  

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shockalicious

Tue Jul-18-00 05:11 PM

  
4. "if that's what he told you in his verses"
In response to Reply # 0


          

why are you asking us?

wtf bizness is it of yours, anyway?

you gonna get him into AA, or you just trying to, in the words of another okayhater, 'start shit'?


s ckyouasshole

  

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Dulce478

Tue Jul-18-00 07:40 PM

  
7. "RE: if that's what he told you in his verses"
In response to Reply # 4


          

What's up your ass? Why the fuck are you getting hostile with me?

  

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shockalicious

Tue Jul-18-00 07:59 PM

  
8. "<face down, hand clasping face> count to ten, shock.."
In response to Reply # 7


          

dulce, i wasn't referring to you - if you read my post properly you should realize that..

if you still WANT to be offended by me, hit me up on the e-mail - that way only I see that you're an idiot..


s ckzilla, baby

  

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5. "Actually, I think he is because"
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I think I saw him hanging out with Tash, J-Ro, and E-Swift the other day. I think he might be a new member

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angieee

Tue Jul-18-00 06:11 PM

  
6. "bwahahahha"
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You know when I saw your subject line, I was like "How is Burb gonna say some ish like that?!!"



side note to posters:
Remember...it's not what you say...blah blah blah.

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38. "RE: bwahahahha"
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>You know when I saw your
>subject line, I was like
>"How is Burb gonna say
>some ish like that?!!"
>
>
>

I know, huh

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9. "funny you ask"
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funniest thing is, the guy also is muslim...which is why its weirder how he openly talks about alcohol...but he's just a brother makin a mistake...someone gotta talk to him that's all

but i ain't complainin...i'ma huge fan

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10. "actually ..."
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... common never claimed to be muslim.

'i lecture on how i got God but don't got religion' (Heat - LWFC)

peace

nij

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Bonafide54

Wed Jul-19-00 05:34 AM

  
11. "Spread Love not Rumors"
In response to Reply # 10


          

Seeing that we all know these artists like they were our boys or something, we would know every little aspect of their personal lives...right? Live and let live.

  

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Blizz

Wed Jul-19-00 05:46 AM

  
12. "I drink Heineken and Sam A."
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Good for him he's an alcoholic - Common's a grown man, he can do whatever the fuck he wants when it comes to escaping reality.

He is an alcoholic, yes. This has no positive or negative connotation - its simply a fact.

But lets not embelish the fact with imaginings like, "com just stumbles around all day sloshed" cuz it probably isn't true.

You gotta be semi sober to do those costume changes and business. BTW - WTF is up with that? I mean, I can understand making the show a whole big production and shit (I guess?) but at the same time I want my rappaz spittin with no frills, nawmean?

-B, thinks costume changes are gay

  

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angieee

Wed Jul-19-00 07:09 AM

  
16. "Common is NOT a Muslim"
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>funniest thing is, the guy also
>is muslim.

Goodness, as someone who knows Common pretty damn well, I can tell you he is not a Muslim.

Where are you getting your information? Because he might have Islam-tinged lyrics once in a while?

If I say "Oh Jesus! That's a nice car!" does that make me Christian?


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34. "RE: Common is NOT a Muslim"
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>If I say "Oh Jesus! That's
>a nice car!" does that
>make me Christian?

Word

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43. "bwahahahhhaa"
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between u and burb i'm catching stomach cramps.

hmmm... if you take a few drinks does that make you an alcoholic? man who cares... as long as bruh isn't trying to beat some woman or drive while drinking... man... folks always gotta find the negative in everything... damn bucketcrabs!

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VetTRU: someone needs to take him aside

VetTRU: that's quotable

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OKOrnery: ain't even funny



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at a poetry reading
my peoples openly receive
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...she had a body like a cello with legs
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cantlie

Fri Jul-21-00 12:08 PM

  
47. "RE: Common is NOT a Muslim"
In response to Reply # 16


          

>Goodness, as someone who knows Common
>pretty damn well, I can
>tell you he is not
>a Muslim.
>
>Where are you getting your information?
>Because he might have Islam-tinged
>lyrics once in a while?

Interesting, I don't think many people who aren't Muslim would start their album thank yous by saying: "I thank the almighty god allah, though i thank you everyday it makes me even prouder to proclaim your name to the world. Thank you for life, thank you for music, thank you for my family, thank you for the good times and the bad times, thank you for being you and as I travel this journey towards perfection I ask that you use me to reflect your light and spread love to all mankind. I dedicate this album back to you because from you it came. Your servant... Rashid."

But then again, I'm sure you'd know better than anyone else (except Common of course) .

  

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52. "he also said"
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"through me, mohammed will forever speak" whats that supposed to mean.

"Cash rules everything around you, MOVE!"-Mos Def

"I fucked your mother so I'm the motherfuckin man"-Xzibit

"I'd fuck Ross Perot!!"- Auset Tiye

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13. "I don't know why everyone..."
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has to give you such a hard time, but if you listen to his verses in his last two albums he approaches the subject as if he's recovering...But I'm not trying to start shit.

  

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17. "Check these references.."
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>has to give you such a
>hard time, but if you
>listen to his verses in
>his last two albums he
>approaches the subject as if
>he's recovering...But I'm not trying
>to start shit.

Listen to 1-9-9-9

"Angel on my main shoulder tellin me reamin sober"

or

"Time Travelin'" "Stakes is high, like my uncle is, we both got problems, but he never confronted his"

or

"Reminding me of Sef" .."Driftin' on a memory brought forth from a fifth of Hennesey..."

or

"One too many ni**as" "...Plus it's hard to be me, it's hard to stop drinkin..."

You can't tell me that this guy is not struggling with alcoholism--but he's tryin' to deal thru his misic.....and I respect that....

  

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18. "Wow"
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I'm a writer and not everything I write about is FACT. Thank God I'm not famous!!! Sheesh!
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angieee

Wed Jul-19-00 07:33 AM

  
19. "damn!"
In response to Reply # 17


          

I'm not sayin you're right or wrong, I got problems of my own, if Common wants to come post about this, cool, but...

>"Angel on my main shoulder tellin
>me reamin sober"

Sober has many meanings. It doesn't have to refer to alcoholism.

>"Time Travelin'" "Stakes is high, like
>my uncle is, we both
>got problems, but he never
>confronted his"

Everyone has "problems"...you get that Common has the illness known as alcoholism because he says he has problems just like his uncle?

>"Reminding me of Sef" .."Driftin' on
>a memory brought forth from
>a fifth of Hennesey..."

"Boy, I was sitting with my girls yesterday, sipping white wine..."

Does that make me an alcoholic?


>"One too many ni**as" "...Plus
>it's hard to be me,
>it's hard to stop drinkin..."


>You can't tell me that this
>guy is not struggling with
>alcoholism.

I can tell you that you can't say "IS" unless you've spoken to COMMON recently. Going on rhymes written a while back only leads to rumor spreadin'.

I mean, if you were going to pick a lyric, at least pick a good one like "dealing with alcoholism and Afrocentricity..."

Common uses a lot of metaphors and similes. When he says "it doesn't take a whole day to recognize sunshine", the brother ain't talking about his curtains are too opaque.

Yes, you'd stick up for your friends just the same,

angieee ('stress)

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26. "RE: damn!"
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>I'm not sayin you're right or
>wrong, I got problems of
>my own, if Common wants
>to come post about this,
>cool, but...
>
I'm the first to admit I've got my own problems, and I'm not trying to dis Com, I'm just trying to say that, for better or worse, it appears he is struggling or has struggled in the past with alcohol from the emense number of alcohol refrences in his lyrics. This in no way needs to be seen as a negative comment toward the man. It's a fact of life that many people deal with on the daily...

>>"Time Travelin'" "Stakes is high, like
>>my uncle is, we both
>>got problems, but he never
>>confronted his"
>
>Everyone has "problems"...you get that Common
>has the illness known as
>alcoholism because he says he
>has problems just like his
>uncle?

Yes, because that is one of dozens of references to substance abuse in Com's lyrics. But he's saying he's confronted his problems--whatever they might be..

>>"Reminding me of Sef" .."Driftin' on
>>a memory brought forth from
>>a fifth of Hennesey..."
>
>"Boy, I was sitting with my
>girls yesterday, sipping white wine..."
>
>
>Does that make me an alcoholic?

No, but there are many people whose bodies react to alcohol like it is poison, so if you can get your drink on without it running your life then you're on the plus side of things...
>
>
>>"One too many ni**as" "...Plus
>>it's hard to be me,
>>it's hard to stop drinkin..."
>
>
>>You can't tell me that this
>>guy is not struggling with
>>alcoholism.
>
>I can tell you that you
>can't say "IS" unless you've
>spoken to COMMON recently. Going
>on rhymes written a while
>back only leads to rumor
>spreadin'.

I'm not tryin' to spread rumors--I'm tryin' to interpret some lyrics...

>I mean, if you were going
>to pick a lyric, at
>least pick a good one
>like "dealing with alcoholism and
>Afrocentricity..."

Do you think the ones I chose are irrelavent? I was going to post that one, but I didn't know just how to tie it in...

>Common uses a lot of metaphors
>and similes. When he says
>"it doesn't take a whole
>day to recognize sunshine", the
>brother ain't talking about his
>curtains are too opaque.

Really?

>Yes, you'd stick up for your
>friends just the same,

I feel you--I have done a lot of thinking about this subject while listening to Common, and I hope the struggles are behind him...

  

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angieee

Wed Jul-19-00 10:22 AM

  
29. "so you know"
In response to Reply # 26


          


>>>You can't tell me that this
>>>guy is not struggling with
>>>alcoholism.

It's statements like this that get to me. Conclusions drawn up on lyrics that were written a while back. Lyrics where Common never ever said "I have a drinking problem."

>I'm not tryin' to spread rumors--I'm
>tryin' to interpret some lyrics...

I hear you, and I'm just responding to your interpretation knowing the man who wrote the lyrics.

>Do you think the ones I
>chose are irrelavent?

I think they *could* be a stretch. A big one.

I'll let Com speak fo' his damn self. Thing is, I don't see how anyone, having NEVER had a long personal conversation with the artist, can assume their religion or mental health state based on old lyrics. And then present it as almost fact, or damn near.

(the religion one is not referring to you, of course.)

Best to you, I'm not feeling the tone of the original post for some reason (maybe it's just me) and I don't want to push it up anymore.

angieee ('stress)

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30. "I don't KNOW anything"
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I'm done too....

  

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42. "to angiee"
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(...religon...)

well excuse me...i never claimed to have said i've had long conversations with the man...or base my assumption on some "old lyrics"..neither end of the spectrum

THANK YOUS: I THANK YOU GOD ALLAH, THOUGH I THANK YOU EVERYDAY IT MAKES ME EVEN PROUDER TO PROCLAIM YOUR NAME TO THE WORLD.- the end of LWFC cover

10 out of 10 people(unless they know him as well as you do of course) would assume the guy is muslim by that statement alone.

Defend your freind if you like...but you just did the same thing in reply to me, that you dont' want people doin to him

I would go on...but he's not my best freind

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14. "No, he's not..."
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I just had a conversation with Dummy (Common's DJ) who said that he has not seen Common drink since February of this year. Alcoholic?! I think not.
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15. "All this alchol talk"
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is making me crave a cold Stella and it ain't even noon.


"With the power of soul you can do anything you wanna do."-Frank Zappa


"Escuchela la ciudad respirando"
"So much on my mind I just can't recline
Blastin holes in the night til she bled sunshine. Breathe in, inhale vapors from bright stars that shine. Breathe out, weed smoke retrace the skyline.Yo don't the bass ride out like an ancient mating call.I can't take it y'all, I can feel the city breathin.Chest heavin, against the flesh of the evening.Sigh before we die like the last train leaving."--Black Star "Respiration"




  

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Congalero

Wed Jul-19-00 09:44 AM

  
24. "RE: All this alchol talk"
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hell yeah....i sure wanna crack a jumbo Heinee right about now....(homer simpson slobber)mmmmmmmmmmmmm....Heieieieieiieieie-neeeeeeeeeee!!!

okayplayer Finesse:"man sunday I felt like it hit me..i wa slike oohh no no please no!!!!!!!!"

  

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20. "Its not important but..."
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I always took his lyrics to mean that he had(in the past)a drinking problem, but that with time and determination he got over it. He talks about it a lot on "Book of Life" so check it out for yourselves.

I'm slow with these kinda things, so I thought for a while that the 40 he's holding on the back of "can I borrow a dollar?" was for real, but now I'm pretty sure its just a bum prop. (like the garbage can fire)


*******none of this information is confirmed******
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22. "Good Point.."
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That's how I understood his lyrics too, that he's tryin' to get past the trouble alcohol has brought him in the past. I'm not trying to act like I know the man either...I just sense a struggle when I hear his rhymes. I never said everything he says is the TRUTH, but I wonder, if he doesn't struggle with alcohol, why all the references?? Like I said before--I'm not tryin' to start shit..

  

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21. "he is"
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we drink 40's of steel reserve every sunday like a ghetto church communion! did i mention he was my brother....alcoholism runs in our famil
LOL!
lawd people is bored!


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23. "inebriation"
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although no laughing matter, can be better seen in artists such as ms. houston, did ya'll see her hug Bobby when he got outta jail!? she was sweating like a lumberjack and didn't have on any shoes!

....like bobby did whitney......


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25. "Once again..."
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From the mouth of someone who sees him almost everyday..."Common has not had a drink since February." Get it through your thick skulls!!
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"Damn *licking fingers* I LOVES me some Harold's chicken!!" - Raina

"I don't care how y'all are positioned, pose yourselves." - LeroyBumpkin

"Ms. Fat Booty, Jr.? Really? I didn't even notice...I was too busy admiring nature." - MisterGrump

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27. "delusional"
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are U an alcoholic

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28. "No..."
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I USED to be...if you read my poems carefully...you could pull it out of my stanza Seriously...I got that info from Dummy, his DJ.
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"Actually I'm more like a scientist with a degree in weedology." - J_Sun
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Celebrating Ju-lie As Fake Quote Month

"Damn *licking fingers* I LOVES me some Harold's chicken!!" - Raina

"I don't care how y'all are positioned, pose yourselves." - LeroyBumpkin

"Ms. Fat Booty, Jr.? Really? I didn't even notice...I was too busy admiring nature." - MisterGrump

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retrospect

Wed Jul-19-00 10:45 AM

  
31. "RE: No..."
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Regardless of whether Com is an alcoholic or not, alcoholism is not something that you lose or are cured of, even if you don't drink for 5 months. It's something you always struggle with. I can't say I'm speaking from personal experience, but this is what I've seen and heard. feel free to correct me.

peace.

  

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32. "I know I said I was done.."
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But I thought this very same thing...Either you are an alcoholic or you aren't....Either you are recovering or you are drinkin'. So there is no "used to be" about it. Although, recently I heard of this group of "recovering alcoholics" who say it's okay to drink in moderation...Some can deal, some can't....

  

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33. "I know I said I was done.."
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But I thought this very same thing...Either you are an alcoholic or you aren't....Either you are recovering or you are drinkin'. So there is no "used to be" about it. Although, recently I heard of this group of "recovering alcoholics" who say it's okay to drink in moderation...Some can deal, some can't....

  

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Smak-YaK

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35. "common is a DR. PEPPER!!!!"
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"Im a Dr. Pepper, wouldnt u like to be a pepper to?"---direct quote from his can i borrow a dollar LP....track 3...exactly 3min into the track.....FREAKSSSSSSSSSSS.....PEACE


"Blindfolded, tap dancin,at bullfights, wearin a snorkel, goose, and boots in the middle of July"-Thirstin Howl III

"Rappers steppin to me,they wanna get some, but im the kane, so yo, u know the outcome..another victory, they cant get with me, so pick a B.C. date cause your history"-Big Daddy Kane

"To the British, I'm Ghandi
To the Japanese I'm an American pilot flying over Nagasaki
To the AIDS patient I'm your last anti-body
Sitting and waiting for a cure from modern biology"-Canibus

  

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retrospect

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37. "Just to make sure..."
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that you understand what I said, I meant that if at any time a person was considered an alcoholic or had a dependency on alcohol or whatever, that he would always be an alcoholic, even if he didn't have a drink for 10 years. The way I understood it, that's something a person is continually fighting against, even if it gets easier with time.

peace.

  

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39. "Right......."
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I understand you, and that's how I've always understood the disease--total agreement here....

  

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36. "Common"
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the alcoholic, homophobic, muslim, antichrist, mysoginistic, christian rapper.

ya'll are really really bored

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41. "RE: Common"
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About the whole muslim doesn't com say in one of his rhymes: I talk about God but I don't have religion...

My interpretation and I may be wrong but he just seems to be a VERY spiritual being with no concrete ties to ONE religion....

just my two cents
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surelock

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40. "So What's the word Mo-fos?"
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It looks to me after listening to common, reading what ya'll had to say about this declared homophobic that he had a problem with alcohol and I guess He's still a fighter, and he works hard to battle his struggle with it? It also seems that this isn't the metaphorical common speaking with his rhymes. He speaks about it on each of his albums, as he does with Homosexuality, and how he hates it hands down. I don't see how that could be a metaphore or similie of any sort.Unless..." Gays are like a box of chocolates you never.... Nah!" So IN conclusion unless someone can prove me wrong about common using alcoholism as a metaphore then I'm going to assume that he is a recovering alcholic.

  

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44. "my question is..."
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why does it matter? people in the spotlight need some shit to remain private. i dont' care if it is on a record. okay, we bought it, we heard, so WE ALREADY KNOW. the old saying says it best, "everything that's said doesn't need to be known and everything that's known doesn't need to be said." in other words just keep it to yourself. if he's an alcoholic AND? we all have problems and vices that we need to deal with PRIVATELY! leave bruh alone. i feel sorry for celebs, can't have shit to themselves. not even their damn problems.

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VetTRU: dude.. did u read the news on the site today. that caption under com is too funny

OKOrnery: yeah i saw that, someone needs to take him aside

OKOrnery: that is someone's old church hat

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VetTRU: someone needs to take him aside

VetTRU: that's quotable

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bugginout!

Thu Jul-20-00 02:00 PM

  
45. "RE: Common Is an Alcholic Right Y'all?"
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Don't you have anything better to do? You're just jealous cause you can't cypher like Common. Just trying to stir up trouble. You dirty little fucker. God!!

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DeVonne-in-Atlanta

Thu Jul-20-00 08:49 PM

  
46. "RE: Common Is an Alcholic Right Y'all?"
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Which track did you here that on? I don't recall Common talking about he had an alcohol problem. I also read a lot of his articles. He didn't say anything in them about dealing with alcohol.

"Dealing with alcoholism and afrocentricity..." (Commmon "The Sixth Sense")

That's the only thing I can think of. And that line doesn't mean he's going through it. To my knowledge, that line means those are things he's dealt with...those are things that he's seen.

  

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surelock

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48. "RE: Common Is an Alcholic Right Y'all?"
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1-9-9-9 " Angel on my main shoulder telling me to remain shoulder" Now if it doesn't sound like he's battling alcholism with those 2 lines (and there are more) then I don't know what you are listening to exactly.

  

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bugginout!

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49. "RE: Common Is an Alcholic Right Y'all?"
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That sounds kind of abstract to me.

Charlton

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51. "RE: Common Is an Alcholic Right Y'all?"
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Just listen to all his albums, and take note of how many references he makes to alcohol. Check my reply to this post called "check these references" there are a few examples in there....

  

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50. "RE: Common Is an Alcholic Right Y'all?"
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yo......rashid is jus like me....

I AINT NO DAMN ALCOHOLIC!!!!!!!

I'M A DRUNK!!!!!!

ALCOHOLICS GOTTA GO TO DEM DAMN MEETINGS......



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-not free, merely licensed
-not compassionate, we were polite
-not good, but well behaved
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storm

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53. "GUESS NOT..."
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"alcohol and his troubles with it. So he is an alcholic right?"

guess not...i have trouble with alcohol too, when i wake up the night after i had a few drinks...ain't there nothin else to say about Common...? like his album for instance/or the sixth sence video..?
or whatever...with a little more love..

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