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"2020 NBA FAgency Post"
Sun Nov-15-20 10:30 AM by Dstl1

          

Looks like it's time, y'all...
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1327990349135015937?s=19

...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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Can’t wait!!
Nov 15th 2020
1
Yessir... Christmas basketball is in effect, fam
Nov 15th 2020
2
Damn, Dennis to the Lakers about to go down...
Nov 15th 2020
3
I still feel like your boy Presti gets a pass, I feel like a different.....
Nov 15th 2020
5
Bro, we made the Finals in 2102 with KD/Russ/James...
Nov 15th 2020
8
      He could have done wayyyy more
Nov 15th 2020
10
      where do you get this stuff from?
Nov 15th 2020
11
      Oh and yes...that is the reason Donovan left...
Nov 15th 2020
14
           And what I’m saying to you is none of it makes sense. None of it.
Nov 15th 2020
16
      Scott Brooks was trash, he basically chose Ibaka over Harden...
Nov 15th 2020
12
           And with “he” I mean Presti chose Ibaka who at the time appeared...
Nov 15th 2020
23
Dumb
Nov 15th 2020
9
      Did you just compare trading Dennis Schroeder to letting Harden go?
Nov 15th 2020
13
      NO
Nov 15th 2020
17
      If they turn some of these picks into high picks next year?
Nov 15th 2020
20
Guessing that the trades are going to be a bigger deal than the FAgents
Nov 15th 2020
4
Welcome to the show Schroder. Strap in it’s gonna be a ride
Nov 15th 2020
6
RE: Welcome to the show Schroder. Strap in it’s gonna be a ride
Nov 15th 2020
18
      Kevin Pelton disagrees...
Nov 15th 2020
19
           Who gives a care what he thinks
Nov 15th 2020
21
                but, we should care what you think? Lol...got it.
Nov 15th 2020
22
                     lmao
Nov 16th 2020
26
Danny Green and the 28th pick for Schroeder
Nov 15th 2020
7
hnnnngggggg
Nov 15th 2020
15
Woj: CP3 to the Suns.
Nov 16th 2020
24
but, allstah said he wasn't going anywhere...this can't be right!!!
Nov 16th 2020
25
does anyone actually take that dude seriously?
Nov 16th 2020
31
I don't understand why anyone even responds to him
Nov 16th 2020
32
Yes. I did say that. And I own up to it.
Nov 16th 2020
34
      You realize OKC ain’t gonna use all these picks, right?
Nov 16th 2020
36
           I hope so.
Nov 16th 2020
41
           Other thing they can do is package to move up in drafts.
Nov 16th 2020
48
Reportedly Paul and Nader for Oubre, Rubio, Jerome, and Lecque
Nov 16th 2020
27
Dumbest shit ever.
Nov 16th 2020
28
that rumor had been out there for a few days, will be interesting
Nov 16th 2020
29
.
Nov 16th 2020
30
16 1st Round Draft Picks for the next 6 drafts.
Nov 16th 2020
35
Better deal for Thunder, but a good deal for both, honestly.
Nov 16th 2020
46
      Yep, this was a show progress for Booker move
Nov 16th 2020
57
We're not done! We're not done! (c)Kris Parker
Nov 16th 2020
33
Rockets star James Harden wants to be on a contender elsewhere (Shams)
Nov 16th 2020
37
Brooklyn would have to turn over entire roster (sans KD/Ky) + picks
Nov 16th 2020
38
I agree the BK talk doesn't make sense from any angle
Nov 16th 2020
39
He turned down 50 mill per
Nov 16th 2020
53
      RE: He turned down 50 mill per
Nov 16th 2020
58
           Completely different circumstances...
Nov 17th 2020
68
Man I love this Schröder trade
Nov 16th 2020
40
Bulls letting Kris Dunn go for self...
Nov 16th 2020
42
Dunn would be a great pickup for any contender
Nov 16th 2020
43
The rise of Shaq Harrison made that an easy decision.
Nov 16th 2020
44
      ... Harrison is gone now too, lol.
Nov 16th 2020
45
           RE: ... Harrison is gone now too, lol.
Nov 16th 2020
           RE: ... Harrison is gone now too, lol.
Nov 16th 2020
47
           Gotta think a vet guard. EDIT: or maybe Hayes?
Nov 16th 2020
49
                Well, based on reports.
Nov 16th 2020
54
                     Hayes is definitely a PG.
Nov 16th 2020
59
                          RE: Hayes is definitely a PG.
Nov 16th 2020
60
           LOL...dude constantly trying to be Woj...
Nov 16th 2020
50
                Why do you have to be childish all the time?
Nov 16th 2020
51
                     you got me mixed up man...I don't even watch college basketball...
Nov 16th 2020
52
                          Okay
Nov 16th 2020
56
Harden just turned down Houston’s Maximum Extension
Nov 16th 2020
55
That is nuts. To go pay $125,000 a month for a condo on Flatbush?
Nov 17th 2020
70
Jrue to the Bucks for George Hill, E Bled and three firsts!!
Nov 16th 2020
61
HOORAY! Bledsoe is outta here
Nov 17th 2020
63
A year too late. That may the domino that led to Giannis' exit.
Nov 17th 2020
69
Him and George Hill were bad.
Nov 17th 2020
71
and two pick swaps
Nov 17th 2020
64
Trajan Langdon out here CLEANING UP.
Nov 17th 2020
65
RoCo to Portland for Ariza and picks...
Nov 16th 2020
62
Unbelievable pickup for Portland. Exactly what they needed.
Nov 17th 2020
72
      Yeah it’s strange.
Nov 18th 2020
101
           Absolutely-- it feels like they're being underdiscussed tbh.
Nov 18th 2020
108
Bucks getting Bogdonavich from Sac...
Nov 17th 2020
66
Donte, Ersan and DJ Wilson, going back...
Nov 17th 2020
67
Bogie one of my favorite Kings
Nov 17th 2020
73
      Another good shooter. Definitely what the Bucks need.
Nov 17th 2020
75
... I think Harden should ask Houston to call up Golden State.
Nov 17th 2020
74
I hate this for Golden State.....
Nov 17th 2020
76
Fuck how people feel, lol. Winning >>> feelings.
Nov 17th 2020
78
      Oh I'm aware people don't GAF about the optics....
Nov 17th 2020
80
y'all really need to stop this shit lol
Nov 17th 2020
77
They love Paschall.
Nov 17th 2020
79
I just think Houston knows it's over.
Nov 17th 2020
81
      Also, Houston has a reason to tank in 2021 due to a pick swap.
Nov 17th 2020
82
           To me, Tanking is highly overrated in the NBA.
Nov 17th 2020
83
           The NBA killed tanking because of the Sixers, sir.
Nov 17th 2020
86
                You're right, but you're still more likely to get one that way.
Nov 17th 2020
89
I think Harden would be an awful fit in Golden State
Nov 17th 2020
84
I thought he played well with CP3.
Nov 17th 2020
87
nah you cant trade him to the your team's biggest enemy in this era
Nov 17th 2020
85
      lol I know, I'm just talking purely in terms of assets.
Nov 17th 2020
88
           Streets is watching
Nov 17th 2020
96
What about Harden for PG?
Nov 17th 2020
90
The Clippers don't have a first rounder for several years, lol.
Nov 17th 2020
91
      Houston can’t be too greedy and go all assets like OKC...
Nov 17th 2020
98
           if they can get some high 2021 picks, sure they can.
Nov 17th 2020
100
                You put way too much stock in draft picks, with guys coming out...
Nov 18th 2020
103
                     I'm just being realistic about Houston's FA market.
Nov 18th 2020
107
Shams said Houston's looking to do a Westbrook-for-Wall swap...
Nov 17th 2020
92
Russ and Brad? Yes, please.
Nov 17th 2020
93
      if this happens, RealBillyOcean's Twitter feed's gonna be good and mad.
Nov 17th 2020
94
           lol...Rondo got another ring...he chillin for a minute
Nov 17th 2020
97
Chris Haynes says Hawks going hard at Gordon Hayward
Nov 17th 2020
95
oooooh this would help the Celtics so much
Nov 17th 2020
99
      only if they don't sign him outright
Nov 18th 2020
102
           I'd kinda prefer Capela tbh.
Nov 18th 2020
106
                I'd happily take either
Nov 18th 2020
112
If I’m Houston Embiid is the only guy I give up Harden for
Nov 18th 2020
104
Draft tonight...you would think we might see a few moves, today
Nov 18th 2020
105
For the #2, Bulls discussing sending to GSW the #4 and... WENDELL?
Nov 18th 2020
109
This means Wiseman would be the pick...I'm ok with that
Nov 18th 2020
110
      ... you sure that doesn't mean Melo? lol
Nov 18th 2020
111
      I'd be beyond pissed if Reinsdorf signs off on a 'Ball'
Nov 18th 2020
113
           I guess the broad argument would be...
Nov 18th 2020
114
      Rumor has it that the Bulls told Patrick Williams that
Nov 18th 2020
115
It feels good to not be invested in a draft
Nov 18th 2020
116
Was really annoyed at seeing rumors of the Bulls shopping Zach
Nov 18th 2020
117
Huge defensive liability...He is terrible.
Nov 18th 2020
118
      Let's judge Zach's* commitment on D when we're not coached by a buffoon
Nov 18th 2020
123
Sixers trade Horford, a first, and a second to OKC for... Danny Green.
Nov 18th 2020
119
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Presti you a mutha!
Nov 18th 2020
120
That seems... like the worst trade in history?
Nov 18th 2020
121
Aw, man....T Ferg gone. 💔💔
Nov 18th 2020
122
Wow. Great trade by Philly
Nov 18th 2020
127
They cleared Horford's contract
Nov 18th 2020
129
      Oh yeah, the contract. Good point.
Nov 18th 2020
130
           I'm sure they have a line on someone else.
Nov 18th 2020
133
Sam Amick saying Bogie to Bucks in peril, cuz he never agreed...
Nov 18th 2020
124
No Bogie for Milwaukee...he will explore free agency
Nov 18th 2020
134
Presti turned Schroder into two 1sts, a 2nd, and Horford.
Nov 18th 2020
125
RE: Presti turned Schroder into two 1sts, a 2nd, and Horford.
Nov 18th 2020
126
that Horford contract is horrible, props to Morey
Nov 18th 2020
128
Great move for both sides.
Nov 18th 2020
132
Trevor don't unpack...Rockets sending Ariza and the 16th pick...
Nov 18th 2020
131
Shamet to the Nets, Kennard to the Clippers.
Nov 18th 2020
135
Seth Curry to Sixers. Great pickup for a team desperate for shooting.
Nov 18th 2020
136
RE: Seth Curry to Sixers. Great pickup for a team desperate for shooting...
Nov 18th 2020
137
Knicks just dumped a lot of salary, clearing $40 million in cap space
Nov 19th 2020
138
https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1329530306869641216?s=20
Nov 19th 2020
139
RE: https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1329530306869641216?s=20
Nov 19th 2020
141
what are they promising him to opt out of $34mil?
Nov 19th 2020
143
      Long term deal is my guess.
Nov 19th 2020
149
he's got 16 minutes to exercise his player option with BOS
Nov 19th 2020
140
If they're backing up a Brinks truck for GH...
Nov 19th 2020
148
Looks like we got James Johnson back in the Rubio deal...
Nov 19th 2020
142
Woj and Sham say we about to send Oubre to GS...
Nov 19th 2020
144
There was talk about GS doing that even before the Klay trade
Nov 19th 2020
145
feel like somethings going on with this deal...still no details
Nov 19th 2020
147
Thon Maker a FA...dude is only 24!!
Nov 19th 2020
146
Thon bout 37
Nov 19th 2020
150
Enes headed back to Portland...
Nov 20th 2020
151
Bogie will sign an offer sheet with the Hawks
Nov 20th 2020
152
Wes Matthews to the Lakers... 1/3.6
Nov 20th 2020
153
Green, Rondo, and #28 for Wes and Schroeder is very solid.
Nov 20th 2020
157
Mason Plumlee to Detroit, 3/25
Nov 20th 2020
154
and Jah Okafor to Detroit on a 2-year deal!
Nov 20th 2020
155
Just wasting money and roster spots
Nov 20th 2020
162
id really love some OKC insight into wtf this clown is doing
Nov 20th 2020
156
      Confirmed...Wood to Houston 3/27
Nov 20th 2020
160
      welp, see yall next summer!
Nov 20th 2020
163
      Collecting role players to fleece overeager bidders for picks
Nov 20th 2020
189
           I hope so but not so sure
Nov 21st 2020
207
Bye, Gallo...you were a fun guy to root for, lol...
Nov 20th 2020
158
Damn, Dwight to the Sixers
Nov 20th 2020
159
Lol...damn...
Nov 20th 2020
161
I'm bummed. But good luck to him.
Nov 20th 2020
164
RE: I'm bummed. But good luck to him.
Nov 20th 2020
187
      Can’t believe I’m saying it but he will be.
Nov 21st 2020
192
Lol once a clown always a clown
Nov 20th 2020
186
Montrez to the Lakers...
Nov 20th 2020
165
Not sure how to feel about this.
Nov 20th 2020
166
RE: Not sure how to feel about this.
Nov 20th 2020
168
Wonder if there’s a vet min signing to happen
Nov 20th 2020
170
RE: Wonder if there’s a vet min signing to happen
Nov 20th 2020
176
      Agreed
Nov 20th 2020
177
           Schroeder is a pretty big upgrade offenaively though.
Nov 20th 2020
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                RE: Schroeder is a pretty big upgrade offenaively though.
Nov 21st 2020
201
RE: Not sure how to feel about this.
Nov 21st 2020
200
was just about to say, feels like that’s the end for KCP there...
Nov 20th 2020
169
FWIW, last year was easily Harrell's worst season with the Clippers.
Nov 21st 2020
225
i don't get it.doesn't shoot threes at all. literally, his percentage is...
Nov 20th 2020
181
you acting like he's a bum
Nov 21st 2020
195
Am I wrong that we could’ve and would’ve signed both?
Nov 21st 2020
232
I like it.
Nov 21st 2020
198
Morey is killing the game!!!
Nov 20th 2020
167
lost what? what happened?
Nov 20th 2020
171
      Dwight
Nov 20th 2020
173
           gotcha. I had Morey confused with Presti for a minute
Nov 20th 2020
184
Jerami Grant to Detroit 3/60...that Troy Weaver connect
Nov 20th 2020
172
Woah. Denver in Shambles.
Nov 20th 2020
174
RE: Jerami Grant to Detroit 3/60...that Troy Weaver connect
Nov 20th 2020
175
Weaver and Grant...I’m in
Nov 20th 2020
179
Denver matched Detroit’s offer....Jerami chose Detroit.
Nov 20th 2020
188
Joe Harris staying with the Nets 4/75...DAMN!!
Nov 20th 2020
178
Derrick Jones Jr. to Portland 2/19...GOOD SHIT!!!
Nov 20th 2020
180
Garrett Temple to the Bulls 1/5million
Nov 20th 2020
182
Chams: John Wall has made it clear he wants a trade out of Washington
Nov 20th 2020
183
LOL
Nov 21st 2020
193
Lol at Robin Lopez tweet
Nov 22nd 2020
259
      Haha...nice
Nov 22nd 2020
260
Lol...Clippers gave Marcus Morris 4/64
Nov 20th 2020
190
Panic move
Nov 20th 2020
191
Steven Adams to Pels. OKC gets... more picks! lol
Nov 21st 2020
194
Pels are set to be a sneaky 6th seed or something.
Nov 21st 2020
197
      If Zion is healthy will it be "sneaky"?
Nov 21st 2020
199
           Zion being healthy would be sneaky so yes
Nov 21st 2020
221
It is complete...Chris, Gallo, Dennis, Steven...
Nov 21st 2020
196
De'Aaron Fox got $163mil? What does this mean for Haliburton?
Nov 21st 2020
202
They can play alongside one another.
Nov 21st 2020
203
Kris Dunn to the Hawks. *Terrific* pickup for them.
Nov 21st 2020
204
Are Collins’ days numbered in Atl?
Nov 21st 2020
205
They're gonna deal him.
Nov 21st 2020
223
Fred Van Vleet, 4yrs-$85mil, so happy for this dude, undrafted guy...
Nov 21st 2020
206
Gordon Hayward to the Hornets...4/120. Yuck!!
Nov 21st 2020
208
TF?! lol
Nov 21st 2020
209
Say what now?
Nov 21st 2020
210
RE: Gordon Hayward to the Hornets...4/120. Yuck!!
Nov 21st 2020
211
Knicks fans everywhere thank Michael Jordan.
Nov 21st 2020
212
Lmaooooo
Nov 21st 2020
216
Someone out Knicked the Knicks lmao
Nov 21st 2020
217
These fucks love some big white dudes
Nov 21st 2020
218
At first I was going to clown the Knicks for getting out-maneuvered...
Nov 21st 2020
219
Gonna go against the grain a bit here.....he’ll produce there
Nov 21st 2020
224
So's their signing history.
Nov 21st 2020
226
while true, Hayward is actually an all star caliber player IMO
Nov 21st 2020
227
      that's a big if, and I'm not convinced it's true anymore regardless.
Nov 22nd 2020
254
RE: Gonna go against the grain a bit here.....he’ll produce there
Nov 21st 2020
230
3 of those 4 things are overstated
Nov 21st 2020
231
      Not saying he sucks and that he will not get buckets.!
Nov 21st 2020
233
      If its 4 years, 40 million, everyone is applauding the move
Nov 21st 2020
239
this piece got me on board
Nov 23rd 2020
284
      Batum 2.0
Nov 23rd 2020
285
           same contract
Nov 23rd 2020
286
Oh wait Mitch Kupchack is the GM makes sense lol
Nov 21st 2020
228
Avery Bradley to the Heat...2/11.6
Nov 21st 2020
213
I like this signing. Also, #FindlayPrep
Nov 21st 2020
220
That defense will be nasty.
Nov 21st 2020
222
Jae Crowder to Phoenix...3/30
Nov 21st 2020
214
RE: Jae Crowder to Phoenix...3/30
Nov 21st 2020
215
      Honestly I’ve asked the same question...
Nov 21st 2020
229
Rondo to Atlanta...2/15
Nov 21st 2020
234
rondo deserves this payday - well-earned
Nov 21st 2020
235
Glad he got paid. Glad he didn’t go Clippers. Salud ‘Do.
Nov 21st 2020
236
Tristan Thompson to Boston...2/19
Nov 21st 2020
237
FindlayPrep
Nov 21st 2020
244
KCP back. 3/40.
Nov 21st 2020
238
I guess that’s the cost of doing business with Rich Paul
Nov 21st 2020
240
      13 a year. Not that bad.
Nov 21st 2020
241
           It is, especially that 3rd year, but it is what it is.
Nov 21st 2020
245
                Meyers Leonard got 9 per.
Nov 21st 2020
247
                     Meyers Leonard is a 7 footer...
Nov 22nd 2020
251
Ainge keeps winning. Hated him as a player.
Nov 21st 2020
242
Nice pick up for them to go from Theis to Tristan
Nov 21st 2020
246
That was a come up for them. He can defend Bam.
Nov 22nd 2020
266
Nerlens Noel to the Knicks, 1 year $5 million
Nov 21st 2020
243
😟
Nov 21st 2020
248
You gotta be kidding me.
Nov 21st 2020
249
Ibaka to the Clippers - 2/19
Nov 21st 2020
250
RE: Ibaka to the Clippers - 2/19
Nov 22nd 2020
255
Atlanta...4/72 offer sheet for Bogdanovich...
Nov 22nd 2020
252
That pretty much confirms it.
Nov 22nd 2020
253
Yep, that's the biggest overall "level up" this FA period
Nov 22nd 2020
256
Can somebody school me on Bogdanovich
Nov 23rd 2020
274
Lakers trying to get off of JaVale’s money...
Nov 22nd 2020
257
JaVale to Cleveland...
Nov 22nd 2020
262
      JaVale deal seems to be a favor to You Know Who.
Nov 30th 2020
305
Wrong post
Nov 22nd 2020
258
We traded Lecque to Indy for TJ Leaf and a 2nd
Nov 22nd 2020
261
So Gasol and Harrell in the frontcourt?
Nov 22nd 2020
263
I do think people are underrating the Dwight/McGee tandem
Nov 23rd 2020
275
      I think Lakers are anticipating playing teams like G.S./Brooklyn
Nov 23rd 2020
288
Austin Rivers to the Knicks?
Nov 22nd 2020
264
Yup. FOCK.
Nov 22nd 2020
265
It's a three year deal for $10.
Nov 22nd 2020
269
      Austin Rivers
Nov 23rd 2020
277
           just because my dawg Basa ain't here y'all gotta get up off AR lol
Nov 23rd 2020
282
I need to keep reminding myself that Thibs is coaching the Knicks
Nov 22nd 2020
267
What is a “thibs guy”? Honestly asking...
Nov 22nd 2020
268
Jimmy Butler, Taj Gibson type....2 way players
Nov 22nd 2020
270
oh cmon dude. you're not "honestly asking"
Nov 23rd 2020
279
      I am only because I think Thibs is way overrated and ruins players'...
Nov 23rd 2020
283
           IMO Thibs place in the league is as a defensive coordinator
Nov 23rd 2020
294
Outside of the draft
Nov 23rd 2020
272
How many damn guards do they need?
Nov 23rd 2020
273
      Some of the two can be threes as well
Nov 23rd 2020
289
Somebody text me when it’s over so I can review. I can’t keep up.
Nov 23rd 2020
271
Kieff back on a minimum. Bless you Pelinka.
Nov 23rd 2020
276
what's crazy is the Clippers paid all that money for the lesser brother
Nov 23rd 2020
278
      I don't think he's lesser.
Nov 23rd 2020
280
      there's definitely not that much difference...
Nov 23rd 2020
281
      Something to do with Bird Rights and Marcus having all the leverage
Nov 23rd 2020
290
Will Miami give Bam an extension?
Nov 23rd 2020
287
Boogie to Houston on a one year.
Nov 23rd 2020
291
running it back, I guess....
Nov 23rd 2020
292
I’m still rooting for dude regardless
Nov 23rd 2020
293
no link but Bam's pockets about to have zero curvature
Nov 24th 2020
295
RE: no link but Bam's pockets about to have zero curvature
Nov 24th 2020
296
BI papered up...
Nov 24th 2020
297
I'm happy for him. I'm a Pels fan as long as he's there.
Nov 24th 2020
298
I will be a BI fan for life. Good for him.
Nov 24th 2020
299
Tatum too. Great runs for two Duke guys I absolutely love.
Nov 24th 2020
300
Luol making another $5 mil from the Lakers this offseason.
Nov 26th 2020
301
crazy...
Nov 26th 2020
302
Good. He does a ton of charity work.
Nov 26th 2020
303
He probably gives the whole 5 mil to charity.
Nov 26th 2020
304
Luol "Bobby Bonilla" Deng LOL
Nov 30th 2020
306

DJR
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1. "Can’t wait!!"
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NBA Draft is 11/18. Gonna be a whirlwind offseason and then start playing in a month! I’m excited. There won’t be shit else to do just like last spring, but at least the NBA will be on TV.

  

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2. "Yessir... Christmas basketball is in effect, fam"
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...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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3. "Damn, Dennis to the Lakers about to go down..."
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we about to drive the tank...another reason we didn't land a big name coach. Bye Gallo, bye Chris.
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1328008824578580482?s=19

...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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5. "I still feel like your boy Presti gets a pass, I feel like a different....."
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coach could've made KD, Russ and Harden work. They could've beaten GS. Now all that talent is gone and nothing to show for it. Then Russ, PG & Melo was supposed to be a thing but it wasn't. They traded them away. Now they are about to do another rebuild. How many mulligans does Presti get?

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8. "Bro, we made the Finals in 2102 with KD/Russ/James..."
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and lost to a better Heat team. Were 48 minutes from the Finals in 16 and lost three straight games...with a different coach than 2012. Is he supposed to get Popovich or prime Phil Jackson? He got a ton of value back from PG. The fact that he even got those players here says a lot. It’s a small market team that players are not falling over themselves to come to and he’s kept it relevant for its entire 12 year existence. Who is going to do more?

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10. "He could have done wayyyy more"
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He lost Harden because he refused to pay an extra 5 million. The dumbest shit ever.
He messed up a dynasty in the making.

Team was still able to be competitive at a high level with KD and Russ, but instead of doing everything he could to keep KD ( meaning get rid of Russ)...that went out window.

He gets another chance at it, makes some good moves...gets Shai, brings in CP, piles up on first rounders, and solid players , team becomes really competitive. Now he is about to fock that up and break stuff up again....what is the end game? To have tons of draft picks? That’s why Donovan bounced. The blue print is right in front of him, and he still doesn’t know how to follow it.

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11. "where do you get this stuff from?"
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Clay Bennett writes the checks, not Sam. Who said Presti refused to pay Harden?

He could have kept KD if he got rid of Russ?? Says who? KD sat down with Presti, Russ and Nick Collison, after losing to G.S. In the WCF and said let’s run it back...only to end up leaving.

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14. "Oh and yes...that is the reason Donovan left..."
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which I said when Donovan left...which I said yesterday...which I’ve been saying since before the pandemic. OKC is about to strip it ALL the way down. I fully expected Chris, Gallo, Dennis and Steven to be gone. One down.

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16. "And what I’m saying to you is none of it makes sense. None of it. "
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And I can’t wait for the 30 for 30 on it.

And I bet you lose Shai in two years when his rookie deal is up. So Oklahoma will be a team just sitting on a pile of draft picks in the bum ass basement.

Zero end game.

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12. "Scott Brooks was trash, he basically chose Ibaka over Harden..."
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a decision I actually supported at the time which was a mistake because the league was going small

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23. "And with “he” I mean Presti chose Ibaka who at the time appeared..."
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to be becoming one of the top young big men in the game nobody thought he would peak at age 25.

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9. "Dumb"
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Contracts the same, but one is old and almost washed. So the prize is a first round 28th pick.

You already got like 12 first round draft picks, so loading up on more picks make no sense. You become a losing culture and shai and dort might want to go elsewhere.

This is going to be up there with refusing to pay that extra 5 mil to Harden.

Thunder were given a blessing last season to build and be competitive at the same time....a smooth transition.

A decade gone by with nothing to show but draft picks.


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13. "Did you just compare trading Dennis Schroeder to letting Harden go?"
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17. "NO"
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I’m just saying it’s another Dumb ass move. Period.

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20. "If they turn some of these picks into high picks next year?"
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Then it'll be worth it.

There are 6-7 guys that would go first overall in this year's draft. It's *loaded.* So if they tank and get another high first rounder? That'd be awesome for their future.

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4. "Guessing that the trades are going to be a bigger deal than the FAgents"
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‘Cause the free agent pool is pretty thin on difference makers. And there’s all the talk of Westbrook, Harden, Paul, George, Oladipo, etc. could be on the move.

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6. "Welcome to the show Schroder. Strap in it’s gonna be a ride"
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18. "RE: Welcome to the show Schroder. Strap in it’s gonna be a ride"
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Great come up for the lakers. Offensively and defensively.

He is on an expiring contract, and younger and better than green. If it doesn’t work, no real big loss. Danny really wasn’t giving you guys anything. I think this even allows you guys to let rondo walk.

As far as OKC, just making an unnecessary move to get an old ass player with the same expiring contract just to get a 28th pick when you’re sitting on 15 first rounders for the next 6 or 7 drafts.







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19. "Kevin Pelton disagrees..."
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gives OKC an A, for the trade. But...what does he know?

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21. "Who gives a care what he thinks"
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You know how many trades looked good to critics and scouts, only to be terrible in the end?

It’s usually the moves that look good that suck, and the ones that look bad that turn out out to be good.

Everybody predicted OKC to be in the basement last season and for Paul to be washed.
How did that go down?

All I know is that OKC just gave away one of the best sixth men in the game , and a top 4 fourth quarter player for trash ass green and a draft pick ( what they have now like 16 first round draft picks?):

From okc’s side, right now, the pieces they got back have zero value. We don’t know what the pick is going to turn into and green is a negative.

So OKC is playing from behind, hoping that the pick turns into a really good player. It’s all potential at this point.

Only way that anything that OKC is doing would make sense to me is the pandemic. Since no fans are allowed or coming to the arena, no real need to put stars on the floor to generate revenue or to worry about putting fans in the seats. Take the hit now while everything is slow and hope to be up and competing in 3 years.

However that is a huge risk to take in a league where players run the league, and fans demand star players. A franchise could be assed out for decades. It can happen just like that.



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22. "but, we should care what you think? Lol...got it. "
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26. "lmao"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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7. "Danny Green and the 28th pick for Schroeder"
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15. "hnnnngggggg"
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24. "Woj: CP3 to the Suns. "
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Reportedly for Oubre, Rubio, Ty Jerome, Jalen Lecque and a 2022 first rounder.

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25. "but, allstah said he wasn't going anywhere...this can't be right!!!"
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31. "does anyone actually take that dude seriously?"
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32. "I don't understand why anyone even responds to him"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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34. "Yes. I did say that. And I own up to it."
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It makes no sense. That’s why I said it.

He still gets the same money, same contract, and goes to if not a similar team, one
that could be worse. PHX didn’t go to the PO, and was terrible pre-bubble.

It makes no sense for both sides...but OKC wants to tear shit up, and This is a desperate move by PHX. I love Paul. But he is 35, two years left on his contract.
Rubio is 30 and formed a solid backcourt with Booker. Now Rubio is not Paul, but
Is defensively sound and an all around PG.

Rubio: 13.7 /8.8 dimes/ 36 pct 3 point shooting
Paul: 17/ 6 dimes/ 36 pct 3 point shooting.

Phx could become old as hell quick at the PG position...never know with an aging player
When shit completely falls off.

Okc: Another draft pick on top of the gazillion picks they already have , and more young players. And even with Paul’s contract on the books, they were still under the salary cap and competing at a high level.

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36. "You realize OKC ain’t gonna use all these picks, right?"
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>Okc: Another draft pick on top of the gazillion picks they
>already have , and more young players. And even with Paul’s
>contract on the books, they were still under the salary cap
>and competing at a high level.

They’ll wait a year or two, package some picks in trades to get a major haul back. It’s the smartest thing they can do since they’re gonna have a tough time getting free agents to go to OKC.

  

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41. "I hope so."
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They could have still done that with bringing everyone back. I just don’t see the end game, and none of it makes sense based on what they just recently accomplished.

Paul sustained a winning culture while Shai, Dort and Bazely evolved. Keep that going, while you got tons of picks to make moves. Once Paul contract expires, hand the keys over to Shai who would be ready by then, plus his rookie deal expiring. Give him the Max , with Dort and Bazely hopefully playing on a PO level with other quality players that were picked up from the draft or FA.

The goal should have been to sustain a winning culture while rebuilding at the same time.

Once a team becomes a losing culture, it’s hard to get out of it......Phx, Sac, Bulls, Wizards, Knicks. We will see what Rubio ,Shai and Oubre can do.

Anyway, I thank them for Donovan.

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48. "Other thing they can do is package to move up in drafts."
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With the signing of LiAngelo to their G-League team, this could indicate they're gonna make a move for the #1 overall to take Melo-- which kinda makes sense for them, honestly.

If they can flip picks to get Melo and, let's say, an extra lotto pick in next year's totally loaded draft, in addition to a tank for a high pick in that same 2021 draft? I mean, that's a really nice core. And even in 2022, there should be a good 5-6 guys up top that have star potential.

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27. "Reportedly Paul and Nader for Oubre, Rubio, Jerome, and Lecque"
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Plus next years first round pick.

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28. "Dumbest shit ever."
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Paul to Phoenix to a team that didn’t go to the PO and isn’t going anywhere but to maybe the first round.

Rubio and Oubre to OKC and another draft pick to OKC.

Neither team gets better.

Now OKC has zero top ten players, where for the past decade they had at least one top ten player. Will this be a decade of losing for OKC?

I know Rubio has to be pissed, because he did find a home in Phx.

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29. "that rumor had been out there for a few days, will be interesting"
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30. "."
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35. "16 1st Round Draft Picks for the next 6 drafts."
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That's a great hand to deal from if you're rebuilding.
Let's see what Presti does with it.

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46. "Better deal for Thunder, but a good deal for both, honestly."
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Great deal for Thunder in terms of assets. No brainer there.

And even if this doesn't work out for the Suns, I imagine it helps show their young talent, "Hey, we're not tanking forever, we want to start winning now." One can debate if this is a move that will lead to actual competitiveness in the West, but I think it'll be encouraging for guys like Booker and Ayton that the Suns don't intend on tanking forever.

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57. "Yep, this was a show progress for Booker move"
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Get in the playoffs, the risk of course is Paul, 35, and injury prone. Might also be research into getting Ayton to break out into a 20-10 guy. If it doesn't happen under an All-Star in Paul, when would it?

The Suns went 8-0 in the bubble without Oubre Jr. and the core Booker, Bridges, Ayton is maintained and they didn't have to give up Cam Johnson either.

Oubre was traded for Ariza prior and now gets dealt as part of a package for Paul. Quite a step up.

All the fangirls for Kelly will have to shift their fluttering eyes east and I imagine the Suns likely draft a PG at #10

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33. "We're not done! We're not done! (c)Kris Parker"
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Gallo up, next.

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37. "Rockets star James Harden wants to be on a contender elsewhere (Shams)"
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1328423437103230978

Rockets star James Harden wants to be on a contender elsewhere, and Brooklyn and Philadelphia are believed to be his top desired trade destinations, sources tell
@TheAthleticNBA

@Stadium
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38. "Brooklyn would have to turn over entire roster (sans KD/Ky) + picks "
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And while that's an insane offensive force - you've basically got 3 ball-dominant guys (w/ Harden & Irving you've got two players who don't shine as bright off the ball). I don't see that happening, would be crazy tho.

Philly is intriguing. If they swap Simmons for Harden w/ Doc in - that's about as compelling as Sixers could hope for.

Houston prolly will hold off until they get exactly what they want.

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39. "I agree the BK talk doesn't make sense from any angle"
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53. "He turned down 50 mill per"
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Josh Hart is correct, if Harden goes to Brooklyn cancel the season. I'm sick of this super team bullshit. Give me a solid reason why Nash's first stint as coach gives him Ky, KD, and possibly Harden.

Philly doesn't make sense due to the nature of those deals.

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58. "RE: He turned down 50 mill per"
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I agree on the Nash aspect. He is sliding into a sweet situation, and if he were to get
Harden, then that would be totally unfair.

If a deal were on the table, could the Commish cancel the deal, similar to what Stern did with the Chris Paul lakers deal? There wasn’t anything illegal about that deal, but owners were upset that the deal was made while the hornets were being run by the NBA.

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68. "Completely different circumstances..."
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>If a deal were on the table, could the Commish cancel the
>deal, similar to what Stern did with the Chris Paul lakers
>deal? There wasn’t anything illegal about that deal, but
>owners were upset that the deal was made while the hornets
>were being run by the NBA.

What Stern did isn't even possible right now. There is no loop hole to be exploited.


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40. "Man I love this Schröder trade"
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He's just blossomed into his peak and coming off a great year. Dennis can spot up and knock down the 3 as well as get his own, and is a legitimate 2-way player who can up the pace for the Lakers and help they play faster at times (something they couldn't always do w/ last year's roster).

Dennis also played big in the clutch and thrives in closing moments. He may just be the perfect third-option fit to this team. All of a sudden Kuz looks very tradeable.

Green was a competent wing defender - but he's clearly diminished and was disappointingly unreliable as a shooter, especially in the playoffs.

I'd love to see Lakers retain Bradley to bolster the backcourt.

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42. "Bulls letting Kris Dunn go for self..."
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Haberstroh thinks he would be a good pickup for the Warriors.

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43. "Dunn would be a great pickup for any contender"
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he's a younger and better version of pat bev.

  

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44. "The rise of Shaq Harrison made that an easy decision."
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Similar defensive ability, and is better offensively. I can see billy running that 3 guard system for certain possessions with Coby at the point, Shaq at the 2 and Zach at the 3.

This was predicted. So far so good.

Btw, Denzel Valentine is getting extended.

Note: Shaq is expected to get extended ...but hasn’t yet. Hopefully we hear something soon. It wouldn’t make any sense if he doesn’t get extended.

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45. "... Harrison is gone now too, lol. "
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"RE: ... Harrison is gone now too, lol. "


          

That shit just happened 24 mins just I asked about him.

I expected something soon....but not this soon and not this result.

Let Dunn and Shaq go?

ESPN Radio Chicago is going to be lit the fock up in the morning.

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47. "RE: ... Harrison is gone now too, lol. "
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That shit just happened 24 mins just I asked about him.

I expected something soon....but not this soon and not this result.

Let Dunn and Shaq go? Either they want to pick Ball or a veteran guard is coming over.

ESPN Radio Chicago is going to be lit the fock up in the morning.

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49. "Gotta think a vet guard. EDIT: or maybe Hayes?"
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Can't really imagine there's anyone at 4 in the draft that's worth the investment. *Maybe* Haliburton? But I also don't think Haliburton is good enough to punt both of those guys over.

And I'm not sure they have the assets to trade for Ball. I'd have to think the Wolves want picks or young guys, and I don't really think the Bulls are interested in dealing either of those things at this point.

EDIT: maybe they're eyeballing Killian Hayes at 4? He's an overseas guy, so I don't know as much about him, but I'm not convinced he's "start Day One" good. I also think Hayes at 4 would be seen as a bit of a reach by some-- then again, the Ringer has Hayes as their top overall prospect, so what do I know.

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54. "Well, based on reports."
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Management sees Coby White as a scoring guard and not the PG he was drafted to be. Coby was drafted by the previous management to be the PG.

Also with the extending of Denzel, bulls now have 14 guaranteed contracts with 1 FA spot left unless they eat Felicio’s contract. So either that last spot is for a PG or they are going to draft one.

But not signing Harrison just doesn’t add up. It would have only been for 1.7 million. Dunn’s is 7.1 million, so that made sense to walk away from. I guess they really want some serious 2 way playing guards who can shoot....as opposed to having specialists. Going after Killian Hayes has been rumored, but he is a SG.

At this point, and with the recent moves, a lot of question marks now.

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59. "Hayes is definitely a PG."
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>Going after Killian Hayes has been
>rumored, but he is a SG.

Every scouting report pegs him as a primary creator.

First couple I found:
https://www.nba.com/timberwolves/2020-nba-draft-profile-killian-hayes
https://www.thestepien.com/2020/02/14/killian-hayes-scouting-report-collaboration/

If the Bulls are targeting him, it's definitely as a PG.

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60. "RE: Hayes is definitely a PG."
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I don’t know anything about him, but saw scouting information on him
being a SG

“Prior to signing a Bundesliga contract, he played shooting guard alongside French teammate Theo Maledon at the U17 FIBA World Cup. Hayes was able to finish often in transition and showed his ability to be a slasher. In his current season, he has been a full-time starter”

He is 19, and played SG in the Under 17s. Wiki has him listed as playing SG and PG , so I’m seeing that as a combo guard. He is 6’5. Coby is 6’4, and is also a combo guard basically.

I can’t see room for the both of them. We shall see how this shapes out.

In the mean time, I will look at his skillset.

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50. "LOL...dude constantly trying to be Woj..."
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and end up looking more like Noj.

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51. "Why do you have to be childish all the time?"
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I clearly noted that he had yet to be extended....

I mean dude let’s not talk about the incorrect hot takes on the future of drafted players by you.

So keep it 100

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52. "you got me mixed up man...I don't even watch college basketball..."
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I never talk about the draft or upcoming nba players. Nice try, though.

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56. "Okay"
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55. "Harden just turned down Houston’s Maximum Extension "
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offer that would have made him the first player to get 50 million per season.

Dude wants out.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30332878/sources-houston-rockets-star-james-harden-focused-trade-nets%3fplatform=amp

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70. "That is nuts. To go pay $125,000 a month for a condo on Flatbush?"
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61. "Jrue to the Bucks for George Hill, E Bled and three firsts!!"
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https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1328559387212795904?s=20

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63. "HOORAY! Bledsoe is outta here"
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69. "A year too late. That may the domino that led to Giannis' exit."
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71. "Him and George Hill were bad."
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I like the moves. They get more shooting, a true penetrator, and a good defender.

True,Bog,Middleton,Giannis,Lopez. Now they have do something about that bench. Needs major improvement.

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64. "and two pick swaps"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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65. "Trajan Langdon out here CLEANING UP."
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62. "RoCo to Portland for Ariza and picks..."
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1328555067088269314?s=20

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72. "Unbelievable pickup for Portland. Exactly what they needed."
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I know RoCo's not exactly a world-changer, but wing was by far the most glaring position of need for Portland last playoffs, and they just filled it with an ideal 3-and-D wing.

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101. "Yeah it’s strange. "
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I agree with you...but also I didn’t think he was the guy when he went to the Rockets. Despite the fact Harden is better than anyone on the Blazers - Portland just feels like a complete team who just added someone who will glue it all together if that makes sense. This is amazing for Portland and a worthwhile gamble for 2 firsts.

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108. "Absolutely-- it feels like they're being underdiscussed tbh."
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I know they'll still have some issues defending on the perimeter with their small backcourt, but outside of that they feel pretty damn complete.

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66. "Bucks getting Bogdonavich from Sac..."
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67. "Donte, Ersan and DJ Wilson, going back..."
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73. "Bogie one of my favorite Kings"
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people are about to learn about this dude now that he plays on a meaningful squad

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75. "Another good shooter. Definitely what the Bucks need. "
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74. "... I think Harden should ask Houston to call up Golden State. "
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Like, I realize Houston may be reluctant to trade with GSW for obvious reasons... but if the Warriors offered, say, Paschall, Poole, Looney, the #2 pick, Minnesota's #1 pick in 2021, the 2022 first rounder, and Wiggins to make the money work? Golden State would be super-loaded, and Houston would get a nice haul of picks and young pieces to build around for the next couple of years. And I've gotta think Harden would be happy. It'd be a win-win-win.

I don't think Brooklyn can make an offer with better future value that actually makes the money work. LeVert/Dinwiddie/Jordan doesn't come close to making the money work. They'd have to trade those three plus at least another three players to make the money work, and I just cannot see Brooklyn doing that.

(Unless Brooklyn offers Irving to Houston instead. And even then, I kinda feel like Houston would rather have a good first rounder in next year's loaded draft plus Wiseman, because they clearly won't be good for a couple of years regardless, and Kyrie's not gonna wanna play for a team with tank aspirations.)

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76. "I hate this for Golden State....."
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I want to see Steph and Klay as the main options for this team again and I want to see what they do with these picks/assets/young players.

From a legacy standpoint bringing in ANOTHER hired gun all but kills any chance that this Golden State run will be looked on fondly going forward even if they were to win another Finals.

Harden, Durant, and Kyrie kind of all deserve each other at this point.

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78. "Fuck how people feel, lol. Winning >>> feelings. "
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>I want to see Steph and Klay as the main options for this
>team again and I want to see what they do with these
>picks/assets/young players.

Steph will turn 33 next season and just missed a whole year. Klay will turn 31 next season and is recovering from ACL surgery. Their window, realistically, is, what, another year or two? Tops? Those young players and picks have essentially zero value to Curry and Klay unless they lead to a win today.

>From a legacy standpoint bringing in ANOTHER hired gun all but
>kills any chance that this Golden State run will be looked on
>fondly going forward even if they were to win another Finals.

So if Golden State thinks bringing in Harden wins them another ring, they shouldn't do it because... of concerns that people may not look on them fondly? lol

I vehemently disagree with this. Curry and Klay got their ring on their own without Durant. It's like Wade before Bron. They have absolutely nothing to prove at this point. Everything going forward isn't "can they win on their own?" because that's been established.

But they're both probably on the other side of their prime at this point-- and Draymond is on the other side of his too. If they want to win more titles-- and I'm sure they do-- they will probably need other players to help alleviate that load. That's not a knock against them or their legacies. That's a practical reality that comes with players getting older.

Harden is probably in the same boat, though he hasn't been dealing with injury stuff. There's a real argument that he has another year of prime left, maybe even two. Curry, Harden, and Klay would be a supernova offense, and while you can argue whether you think Harden is a "winner" or whatever, I think that team with Harden is inarguably better than one with Wiggins.

I absolutely think the Warriors do that deal in a *heartbeat*-- I think that trade would potentially make them the favorite to win the West in Vegas (they're currently projected by Vegas as the third most likely team in the West to win it all). And if people want to bitch and moan about *how* the Warriors did it? That shit matters way way less than *if* they did it.

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80. "Oh I'm aware people don't GAF about the optics...."
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The NBA is just one big AAU thing now......go play with your friends.....pout and get out. I get it.

Winning clearly isn't everything though or Durant would still be in Golden State. His fragile ass feelings couldn't take the backlash. So now He's going to try to go do it with ANOTHER superteam. Like this shit is out of control man as far as agendas go.

IDGAF what anyone says. These teams will never be looked at as fondly as past championship teams before the Heatles.

As far as Harden goes. Dude is an incredible talent. If he feels like he has to do the mercenary thing then that's cool. Go get it.

We see how well that's working out for Kawhi.

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77. "y'all really need to stop this shit lol"
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79. "They love Paschall."
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He made the all rookie team and avg 14ppg and 4 dimes. He is a really good iso player who can get his shot. I highly doubt they would include him in any trade scenario.

Harden has three years left on his contract. He can complain all he wants to, but Houston doesn’t have to do anything. Just simply let him play out his contract, and he
will be out of his prime by then.

Something really out of this world has to be on the table for Houston to part with Harden. Top 5 player, mega superstar, generational player, puts fans in the seats and brings in tv viewers. I’m thinking superstar for superstar.


But hey, we have seen crazier stuff, so maybe he does get traded. And they just traded Covington so something heavy could be in the works.





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81. "I just think Houston knows it's over."
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Like, they can keep Harden, but no talent is gonna come to play with them, because they know Harden could leave at the drop of a hat and leave them holding the bag.

They already dealt Covington to get another pick... I think that's a telltale sign that they know. I think they'll dealt Westbrook for a future pick, probably Gordon for a future pick, maybe see if a contender gets desperate midseason and try to deal Tucker for a future pick. And Harden could get Houston a hell of a package.

I just don't see the benefit to keeping him beyond waiting for other franchises to get desperate. They should do that, by all means-- they shouldn't trade him for peanuts. Like, they should get more future equity than New Orleans got for Holiday by... a healthy amount, lol. There just aren't a lot of contenders, outside of Golden State, who will realistically be able to do that. (Maybe Philly, if you consider them a contender. I don't, really.)

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82. "Also, Houston has a reason to tank in 2021 due to a pick swap."
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The current deal is OKC gets the top two picks in 2021 of Houston's pick, Miami's pick, and their own pick-- and Houston gets the worst of these three picks. Now, the 2021 draft class is loaded, but Miami's pick will almost certainly be mid-20s-- so that'd be a really bad swap for Houston.

BUT it's top 4 protected, lol. So if they end up with a Top 4 pick-- which, to be clear, is almost certainly a more valuable pick than even the #1 pick in this class-- then they keep the pick.

So they may as well bottom the fuck out, because if you're a rebuild team, you're *desperate* for a top 5 pick in next year's draft.

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83. "To me, Tanking is highly overrated in the NBA."
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I don’t value the NBA draft as much as I value the NFL draft. Tanking makes sense in the NFL, because a top QB can make you into a super bowl champion within 3-4years ( Mahomes,Aikman,Ben).

In the NBA, not so much.

Dallas
Heatles
Spurs
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Lakers

Those are the champions over the past 8 years...all based on superstar veteran players.
Making moves through FA and the draft while still being competitive, or just going all out spending on FA seems to be the way to go. Or doing thrifty shit with G league players like Miami and Toronto.

You’re solely banking on potential with zero superstar players, so it could lead to a lot of years of losing.

Does Houston want to jump in that hole?

I can definitely see them wanting to get rid of Westbrook, with The hornets making the most sense because of the Jordan factor. But for Harden, someone big time has to come back.

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86. "The NBA killed tanking because of the Sixers, sir."
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Just because a team bottoms out, that doesn't guarantee they will get a top four pick.

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89. "You're right, but you're still more likely to get one that way."
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The third worst team in the NBA is nearly twice as likely to win the lotto as the seventh worst team in the NBA. It's been flattened out, true, but I don't think tanking has been completely disincentivized-- especially because one can "tank" by trading all your assets for picks, which makes it a lot easier to trade up for those top talents in the draft.

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84. "I think Harden would be an awful fit in Golden State"
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Now, I'm biased because I fucking hate his game. But I also think that the last few years have shown that he doesn't play well with others. He'd have to be willing to adapt and change how he plays, because running ISO ball through him while he decides to drive or draw contact is completely antithetical to the Warriors run their offense.

Again, I'll admit that the guy is my least favorite player in the league. But I don't see it working out even in the short term. I'd rather focus on building the bench and go from there.

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87. "I thought he played well with CP3."
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Now, with Melo and Russy, sure-- but they're also guys who famously don't share the ball either, so that kind of makes sense. I think Harden has shown he can be a terrific passer and an intelligent offensive player-- if he was playing with multiple hall of famers known for ball movement, I think he'd do just fine.

The Rockets' best season was when it was Harden, CP3, and Eric Gordon-- they lost like 17 games and they took a *loaded* Warriors team with Durant to 7 games. I think it's easy to argue that, if Golden State has an average 3rd quarter in Game 7, Houston probably goes on to win the NBA Finals, and people look at Harden a lot differently these days.

I think Harden/Steph/Klay is like a super saiyan version of that Rockets team, lol. They'd absolutely be the odds on favorite in 2021 with that imo.

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85. "nah you cant trade him to the your team's biggest enemy in this era"
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haul be damned, if i'm a rockets fan i'd renounce my fanhood after that.

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88. "lol I know, I'm just talking purely in terms of assets."
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I don't think there's another contender that can *actually* trade for Harden that has the sorts of package that Golden State can offer.

So if Houston actually wants to tank, then fuck it, it's not like Houston's gonna compete for the next 3 years anyway. You gather young talent while Curry and Klay play out their prime, and then hopefully in 2025 the shoe is now on the other foot.

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96. "Streets is watching"
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https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/james-harden-might-prefer-the-nets-but-its-the-warriors-who-might-be-able-to-offer-the-rockets-the-best-deal/

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90. "What about Harden for PG?"
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91. "The Clippers don't have a first rounder for several years, lol. "
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I doubt Houston would be interested without serious future assets-- George is only signed for two more years, and Houston's not competing in the next two years anyway.

Guaranteed Houston would want Shamet too, and there's just zero chance the Clippers trade him with the deal they have him on. The Clippers could offer, like, PG, Kabengele, and a couple of second rounders-- but if Houston's trying to build the future, that's just not a terribly attractive package.

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98. "Houston can’t be too greedy and go all assets like OKC..."
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OKC is a 1 horse town where the fans will show back up anyway, Houston still has to put an entertaining product on the floor. Maybe the Clippers would throw in Lemon People Lou because they definitely wouldn’t need any more dribbling.

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100. "if they can get some high 2021 picks, sure they can."
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I'm not joking when I say there are 6-7 guys in that draft who'd go #1 this year. Like, combine the two drafts and the lotto would only have three guys from this draft.

OKC already has two picks that should be high next year and they have a lot of firsts they can deal to try to get another high pick next year. They'll be stuffed with young talent sooner rather than later.

Houston just has to follow that model. Bomb next season. Deal everyone. Hopefully get a Top 4 pick for yourself (otherwise OKC gets your pick), and try to get another two draft picks next season. That's why I think the GS trade would work out-- they could demand the 2021 first rounder GS has from Minnesota, which has a good shot at being a lotto pick.

You can get exciting talent sooner rather than later if you go *all in* on the tank. The only way you fuck it up is if you try to be good enough to at least win 35-40 games-- then you'll stay in Washington Wizards purgatory forever.

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103. "You put way too much stock in draft picks, with guys coming out..."
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younger the bust potential is higher. In each draft you have maybe like a handful guys out of 60 amount to anything. And half those aren’t ready out of the box and need at least a couple of years of development.

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107. "I'm just being realistic about Houston's FA market."
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Unless they already have a star, their only realistic chance of landing a star is in the draft. And once they trade Harden, it's exceedingly unlikely they will have the sort of star that attracts free agents. So draft it is.

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92. "Shams said Houston's looking to do a Westbrook-for-Wall swap..."
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... but the thing holding it up is that Houston wants more assets. Probably looking for a draft pick or two.

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93. "Russ and Brad? Yes, please."
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94. "if this happens, RealBillyOcean's Twitter feed's gonna be good and mad."
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97. "lol...Rondo got another ring...he chillin for a minute"
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95. "Chris Haynes says Hawks going hard at Gordon Hayward"
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99. "oooooh this would help the Celtics so much"
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102. "only if they don't sign him outright"
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a S&T for Collins or Capela or draft capital or maaaaybe for a big trade exception? sure--especially for Collins. but if atlanta signs him as a free agent, the Celtics don't really get much FA space--all it would get the Cs is the bigger exception which isn't going to do much.

Hayward isn't necessary for the Cs, but he's better than replacement value. Hayward + a pick for Collins? Yes please.

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106. "I'd kinda prefer Capela tbh."
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Collins is really good on offense in the PnR, but he's a pretty lousy defender. I feel like having a guy like Capela would be good if the Celtics have aspirations of protecting the rim against guys like Giannis or AD in the playoffs.

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112. "I'd happily take either"
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but I think Stevens wants a 5 who can shoot a three, on the belief that Robert Williams/Theis/???? is a good enough trio at the five to mix and match.

i'd be happy with either.

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104. "If I’m Houston Embiid is the only guy I give up Harden for"
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105. "Draft tonight...you would think we might see a few moves, today"
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109. "For the #2, Bulls discussing sending to GSW the #4 and... WENDELL?"
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110. "This means Wiseman would be the pick...I'm ok with that"
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He'll be better than Wendell long term and I like Wendell.

Wendell would be good for the Warriors too. And they'd have #4. That's huge because that's an asset they can use to address their bench or bring in another player if packaged with Wiggins.

While I don't think we NEED Wiseman and I'm ok with #4 being the SF Euro and us walking away with that, I wouldn't be mad at this deal too much. I'd want another asset from the Warriors though. Maybe a future pick or a bench guy.

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111. "... you sure that doesn't mean Melo? lol"
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Givony on Twitter saying the Bulls are big fans of Melo-- and they *did* just let Dunn and Harrison walk. I'm also thinking more and more that he'll be there unless Minnesota unloads the pick.

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113. "I'd be beyond pissed if Reinsdorf signs off on a 'Ball'"
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when he would shy away from other players that came with similar situations in the past. And who replaces Wendell in the middle.

I like Gafford be he's not a starting C in my opinion.

If it ain't Wiseman, why trade Wendell? Doesn't make sense.

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114. "I guess the broad argument would be..."
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... big men who can't shoot are pretty darn replaceable in the league today, and while Carter's shown in the past the potential to shoot, it hasn't happened yet in the league. Combine that with his injuries, and he may just think, "Carter's an asset right now because he's still young, but I think replacing him with Random Big Man X doesn't make a huge difference in our efficiency on either end." And while I still like Carter's upside if he can stay healthy, that line of logic is totally reasonable.

Meanwhile, if he thinks Ball is the highest upside player in the draft (and I'd actually agree with him on that tbh), and he thinks whoever he could get at 4 just wouldn't have the same upside (and while I'm not sure I *totally* agree there, a lot of people do think that)... then it makes sense.

I also tend to think, while Wiseman is a better prospect than Wendell, the flaws in his game are basically the same-- he can't defend the perimeter, and the shooting is far more potential than reality. I don't know if a team should give the equivalent of two Top 5 picks away to move up two spots for an upgrade at true center, the most increasingly irrelevant (or, if you don't like that wording, increasingly replaceable) position in the NBA.

If *I* were the Bulls, I'd keep Carter and draft Isaac Okoro with the 4th pick-- I like Okoro's upside more than Wiseman's, and I think his floor is significantly higher than Ball's. I think a guy whose pitch is "the next Andre Iguodala" is something the Bulls could really use, so I wouldn't pursue Ball or Wiseman unless they totally fall into my lap. But that's just me.

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115. "Rumor has it that the Bulls told Patrick Williams that "
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they were going to select him, so I wouldn’t be shocked if that is the pick.

I have never been big on Wendell. He isn’t wack, but he isn’t dynamic either. So
If we can move him ASAP, then cool.

I’m big on Tyrese Haliburton. He is a true facilitator, who avg’d 15 points a game, 7 dimes, and is an outstanding rebounder( 6 boards a game). He shot 50 pct from the field , and for two seasons shot 42 pct from three, and he is a good defender.

That’s our true all around pg right there, since they don’t think Coby is a PG. I just don’t see this veteran pg they keep talking about.

Checked out Hayes, and even though he plays point guard overseas, he looks more like a Manu Ginobilli type. He can pass and is fundamentally sound, but isn’t athletic or explosive the way a pg should be. His first step is slow. I see him playing more as a slasher SG with that euro playing style of his. He is left hand dominant as well..He barely uses his right, and before this past season he wasn’t a good shooter.


I like Wiseman. If we take him, I wouldn’t be upset. However, for what we need right now, I wouldn’t select him.

I am more worried about our perimeter defense since we let shaq and Dunn walk. I’m very worried right now.


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116. "It feels good to not be invested in a draft"
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I can just sit back and enjoy this shit again, lol

  

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117. "Was really annoyed at seeing rumors of the Bulls shopping Zach"
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Luckily Goodwill just shut those down... https://twitter.com/VinceGoodwill/status/1329099395502116869

Somewhat efficient 25ppg scorers don't grow on trees. Dude is still young with top-15 potential. You don't trade that away for a bunch of guys. You rebuild while not totally sucking (with proper coaching and management hopefully this is the case). His defense isn't great but it's not like he's getting much help on that end. You don't build around him, you build with him as an elite offensive piece and hope you can attract free agents WHILE NOT TOTALLY SUCKING.

  

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118. "Huge defensive liability...He is terrible."
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He is an offensive juggernaut, and put fans in the seats. However ,doesn’t facilitate and can’t play defense. I don’t think he is part of the bulls’ long plan game unless he can improve defensively. If he improves, then he is a keeper. We will see how things go

And can be ball dominant at times messing up the flow of the offense.

I don’t mind him, and dude can focking score. But if we can get a two way playing scoring perimeter player, I would move him.

But he is definitely a baller!

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123. "Let's judge Zach's* commitment on D when we're not coached by a buffoon"
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*and more importantly, the teams defense.

I'm pretty sure Zach and the team can get better on defense. Proper coaching and not being totally dispirited due to an idiot at the helms should help.

  

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119. "Sixers trade Horford, a first, and a second to OKC for... Danny Green."
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I knew the Sixers were desperate for shooting, but my heavens.

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120. "LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Presti you a mutha!"
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121. "That seems... like the worst trade in history? "
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Wow.

At the minimum Al is a very good backup for a guy that will probably never make it through a season fully healthy. Not to mention a great veteran presence for a bunch of guys that seem to need a great veteran presence.

And to give away decent draft picks... for DANNY GREEN? AHAHAHa. Aren't Thybulle and Korkmaz just as good if not better? So many questions.

  

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122. "Aw, man....T Ferg gone. 💔💔"
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127. "Wow. Great trade by Philly"
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They get out of that horrid Al Horford contract, big financial savings ..and they take on expiring Danny Green’s Contract


$18M toward the luxury tax for 2020-21 + $7.7M in salary

$42M in savings in 2021/22 and 2022/23 with the Horford contract off the books


Clears up a lot of cap space to go after Harden.

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129. "They cleared Horford's contract "
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I doubt this was for danny.

The picks were a tax on moving Al's bloated contract.

  

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130. "Oh yeah, the contract. Good point."
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But if you're not getting Harden (they're probably not) then getting rid of a contract seems kinda strange for a team that considers themselves contenders. Like, Al is a useful piece on a perceived contender.

  

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133. "I'm sure they have a line on someone else."
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>But if you're not getting Harden (they're probably not) then
>getting rid of a contract seems kinda strange for a team that
>considers themselves contenders. Like, Al is a useful piece on
>a perceived contender.

They may have a line on scooping Dwight or someone like that. Not sure what their cap situation is overall but I'm guessing they can add what they lost in Al in a more cost effective way. I think Al is about to hit a wall of diminishing returns. Further, Danny brings similar attributes from a different position, while yielding cap relief this summer, or greater trade flexibility until then.

Even as a contender, this gives them room to tinker where they didn't before. Further, if they were going after Harden or anyone else for that matter, that expiring deal could be attractive in a deal.

I'm spitballing here, but those deals may be in greater demand with the current financial uncertainty around the league, so a team that's going nowhere and losing money may be willing to part with a quality player or asset for the additional financial wiggle room.

  

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124. "Sam Amick saying Bogie to Bucks in peril, cuz he never agreed..."
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to go there.

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134. "No Bogie for Milwaukee...he will explore free agency"
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125. "Presti turned Schroder into two 1sts, a 2nd, and Horford."
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That’s really goddamn good.

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126. "RE: Presti turned Schroder into two 1sts, a 2nd, and Horford."
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https://tenor.com/view/sam-presti-scared-money-dont-make-gif-12094049

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128. "that Horford contract is horrible, props to Morey"
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132. "Great move for both sides. "
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131. "Trevor don't unpack...Rockets sending Ariza and the 16th pick..."
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to Detroit for a future 1st.

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135. "Shamet to the Nets, Kennard to the Clippers."
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Love the move for both teams, tbh.

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136. "Seth Curry to Sixers. Great pickup for a team desperate for shooting."
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137. "RE: Seth Curry to Sixers. Great pickup for a team desperate for shooting..."
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That’s crazy. He was lighting it up in Dallas.

And he is one hell of a defender.

Nepotism...but a good one. Great pickup by Philly.

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138. "Knicks just dumped a lot of salary, clearing $40 million in cap space"
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Portis, Gibson, Payton, and Ellington are all gone.

I don't know who they're planning to use that space for, but it's a thing that happened.

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139. "https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1329530306869641216?s=20"
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https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1329530306869641216?s=20

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141. "RE: https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1329530306869641216?s=20"
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After the Boston’s pick of Aaron Nesmith, best shooter in the draft, I think that’s the writing on the wall for Gordon. He is polished and ready to go now.

So I think Gordon going to NY is his best option.

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143. "what are they promising him to opt out of $34mil?"
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149. "Long term deal is my guess. "
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He- and the Knicks- get what they all deserve if he gets anything close to max money.

  

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140. "he's got 16 minutes to exercise his player option with BOS"
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148. "If they're backing up a Brinks truck for GH..."
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Knicks gon' Knick I guess.

  

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142. "Looks like we got James Johnson back in the Rubio deal..."
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oh.

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144. "Woj and Sham say we about to send Oubre to GS..."
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don't know what for, yet.

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145. "There was talk about GS doing that even before the Klay trade"
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147. "feel like somethings going on with this deal...still no details"
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146. "Thon Maker a FA...dude is only 24!!"
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150. "Thon bout 37"
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I thought he was the next one when I saw him on the circuit in 2015

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151. "Enes headed back to Portland..."
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1329888113519259650?s=19

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152. "Bogie will sign an offer sheet with the Hawks"
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https://twitter.com/Carchia/status/1329913512009863168?s=20

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153. "Wes Matthews to the Lakers... 1/3.6"
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157. "Green, Rondo, and #28 for Wes and Schroeder is very solid."
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I assume Rondo's out.

But this is alright. He's basically a slightly worse version last year's Danny Green on a much better deal.

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154. "Mason Plumlee to Detroit, 3/25"
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155. "and Jah Okafor to Detroit on a 2-year deal!"
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Good for Big Jah! Shout out to Detroit for helping all the Duke bigs cash in, lol.

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156. "id really love some OKC insight into wtf this clown is doing"
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that was christian wood's money

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160. "Confirmed...Wood to Houston 3/27"
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163. "welp, see yall next summer!"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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DJR
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189. "Collecting role players to fleece overeager bidders for picks"
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L_O_Quent
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207. "I hope so but not so sure"
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I don't really get what he's doing unless they pull off Blake and Rose trades for a young almost superstar.

I have been wanting the Pistons to be aggressive in the FA market but unless these are the opening moves I don't really get what they're doing.

The offspring :-D

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158. "Bye, Gallo...you were a fun guy to root for, lol..."
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Hawks 3/61.5

...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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159. "Damn, Dwight to the Sixers"
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161. "Lol...damn..."
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https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1329961887325331456?s=20

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Ryan M
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164. "I'm bummed. But good luck to him."
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For what it's worth, the "I'm staying" tweet was the only remnants of old Dwight we've seen since he signed. He was a consummate professional all year who will probably be a great mentor to Joel.

But it's very funny he ditched us for Morey a second time.

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187. "RE: I'm bummed. But good luck to him."
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> who will probably be a great
>mentor to Joel.

lol

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Ryan M
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192. "Can’t believe I’m saying it but he will be. "
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Dudes a mercenary now. He’s learned. We saw it this year. And laker fans wanted to hate this dude. But you can’t say he isn’t one of the best defenders ever - and he knows his role. Perfect mentor for Joel.

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186. "Lol once a clown always a clown "
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>.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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165. "Montrez to the Lakers..."
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man, the NBA is something else
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1329977779434053632?s=20

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166. "Not sure how to feel about this. "
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He’s a dog but was borderline unplayable vs Denver and Dwight was crucial vs them. I like the signing and hope it means KCP is back cause this seems like close to MLE money.

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allStah
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168. "RE: Not sure how to feel about this. "
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Terrible on defense and can’t protect the rim....but y’all lose size like crazy.

But he can get buckets

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170. "Wonder if there’s a vet min signing to happen "
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I hate the loss of size but feels like the shooting has gotten better.

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allStah
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176. "RE: Wonder if there’s a vet min signing to happen "
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Definitely better offensively....but y’all won the chip because of interior defense ..too much length.

Harrell is a motor and a dog. But maybe he was just blanked out because he didn’t like PG and Kawhi.

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177. "Agreed "
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But all that said - Green/Wes is a lateral move on D. Schroeder same thing on D (not nearly as good of a floor general as Rondo tho). Trez is a nice piece but I’m not sure how he fits in yet.

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Cold Truth
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185. "Schroeder is a pretty big upgrade offenaively though."
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>But all that said - Green/Wes is a lateral move on D.
>Schroeder same thing on D (not nearly as good of a floor
>general as Rondo tho). Trez is a nice piece but I’m not sure
>how he fits in yet.

Trez, is cool I just don't see him as a fit.

  

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201. "RE: Schroeder is a pretty big upgrade offenaively though."
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>Trez, is cool I just don't see him as a fit.

just wait until you see how Trez eats on the pick and roll/fast break w/ Bron.

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200. "RE: Not sure how to feel about this. "
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>Terrible on defense and can’t protect the rim....but
>y’all lose size like crazy.

Yea - Lakers really will be struggling to protect the rim with AD and JaVale on the floor. lol


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169. "was just about to say, feels like that’s the end for KCP there..."
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not much left, Maybe they can get out of JaVale’s money.

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225. "FWIW, last year was easily Harrell's worst season with the Clippers."
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The two years before that, he was at or near the top of their roster in every advanced analytics defensive stat, because his defensive positional versatility is exceptional, and his motor is never-ending.

Last playoffs was the worst that I've seen him look in the NBA tbh. I don't know if the recent death of his grandmother played a role in that performance... but I imagine the Lakers are betting that he'll return to what he was before that defensively.

And considering Harrell's one of the best PnR rim runners in the league, and Bron is a very difficult weapon to deal with him in the PnR himself? I really, really like the fit.

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Cold Truth
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181. "i don't get it.doesn't shoot threes at all. literally, his percentage is..."
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We let Dwight, a significant strength this year, walk to sign this guy?

  

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195. "you acting like he's a bum"
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Dwight is better defensively, but Harrell is wayyy better offensively.

  

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232. "Am I wrong that we could’ve and would’ve signed both?"
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Dwight signed in Philly for the vet minimum, didn’t he?

I don’t see how Harrell’s signing means we picked him over Dwight? Thought we wanted both?

And seems we’ll now be finding another big body to replace Dwight with?

  

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198. "I like it. "
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If for nothing else - Trez joining the Lakers weakens the Clippers. Every time they match up Trez was a difference maker, and Lakers just got a *lot* faster by adding Schroder & Trez.

They knew Dwight was going to walk - and while he was a huge contributor this year - the Lakers in playoff crunch time were playing smaller, faster lineups for the majority of the time and I think Trez will fit exceptionally well with this squad which will be far more uptempo this year on offense.

Also - with AD anchoring the defense, it's not so imperative that Trez is an all-defense level guy. He'll be able to take more risks getting out on fast breaks where he is a monster.

  

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167. "Morey is killing the game!!!"
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He setting up that wall for Giannis. Wow. This dude is a G

Huge loss for the Lakers.

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171. "lost what? what happened?"
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173. "Dwight "
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Cold Truth
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184. "gotcha. I had Morey confused with Presti for a minute "
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But yeah I think letting dwight walk was a mistake.

  

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172. "Jerami Grant to Detroit 3/60...that Troy Weaver connect "
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174. "Woah. Denver in Shambles. "
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175. "RE: Jerami Grant to Detroit 3/60...that Troy Weaver connect "
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Damn. Huge loss for Denver

That dude was a stud ..hit the 3, length, was able to guard lebron. Made Denver tough defensively.

This is crazy.

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179. "Weaver and Grant...I’m in"
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Detroit’s my number 2 team now.

  

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188. "Denver matched Detroit’s offer....Jerami chose Detroit."
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178. "Joe Harris staying with the Nets 4/75...DAMN!!"
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180. "Derrick Jones Jr. to Portland 2/19...GOOD SHIT!!!"
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182. "Garrett Temple to the Bulls 1/5million "
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Could Work. ...but is this our big time Veteran?

He is 34 years old. Got to take this up with bulls nation.

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183. "Chams: John Wall has made it clear he wants a trade out of Washington "
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193. "LOL"
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SMH.....

Wizards are a shit franchise to root for sometimes.

  

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259. "Lol at Robin Lopez tweet"
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https://twitter.com/rolopez42/status/1330009214937309186

  

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260. "Haha...nice"
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190. "Lol...Clippers gave Marcus Morris 4/64"
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191. "Panic move "
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194. "Steven Adams to Pels. OKC gets... more picks! lol"
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197. "Pels are set to be a sneaky 6th seed or something. "
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199. "If Zion is healthy will it be "sneaky"?"
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221. "Zion being healthy would be sneaky so yes "
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196. "It is complete...Chris, Gallo, Dennis, Steven..."
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gone. This is what a house looks like, stripped to the studs. Wouldn’t be shocked,at all if Tito never puts on a Thunder uniform.

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202. "De'Aaron Fox got $163mil? What does this mean for Haliburton?"
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203. "They can play alongside one another."
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Haliburton is a 42% 3-point shooter. He's 6'5 with a good wingspan. If you want to run a multiple playmaker system, they honestly fit really well together. Fox is more the dribble drive, Haliburton is more the shooter.

He still needs to put on some muscle-- he's got the frame for it, but he's pretty skinny right now-- so I wouldn't be surprised if Haliburton starts his career as Fox's backup, only occasionally playing alongside him. But if Fox is signed to a long deal, playing them side by side seems like the obvious hope for the Kings going forward.

And for an organization not known for ever making the smart basketball decision-- they're still insistent that Marvin Bagley isn't a 5 for some reason-- they're doing something savvy here imo.

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204. "Kris Dunn to the Hawks. *Terrific* pickup for them."
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Last year their defense was *dreadful,* in large part because Trae Young cannot guard any NBA player.

Now they draft Okongwu, easily one of the most versatile defenders in the draft, and they sign Dunn, one of the best perimeter defenders in the league. If guys like Hunter and Reddish continue to develop in their second season defensively, they're making serious steps toward making up for the defensive problems Young inherently carries with him.

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205. "Are Collins’ days numbered in Atl?"
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With Capela and Danilo, plus their draft selection, it all seems redundant.

His PED situation focked up their season, and it’s going to be expensive as hell to extend him.

There were trade rumors at the beginning of last season regarding a Collins/ Lauri swap with some picks thrown in. If ATL aren’t willing to pay him, maybe we could work something out to bring him in.

He has a year left on his rookie deal. With the Monster year he had, an extension should have been put forth already.

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223. "They're gonna deal him. "
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He'll need a big extension after this season, and I can't imagine a team with Trae Young as its cornerstone committing big money to build around a big man whose defense is, to put it mildly, not good.

He's a terrific offensive player, he's deadly in the PnR, and he's become a very good no-dribble catch-and-shoot 3 point option... I just struggle to see a world in which that becomes a winning team defensively when those are your best two players. Furthermore, considering Collins's 3 point percentage drops to under 10% when he dribbles the ball, the Hawks may feel last year's offensive performance looks better than where his actual offensive skills are.

Meanwhile, if Collins shot 40% from 3 on catch-and-shoot opps that Trae creates for him, imagine what Gallinari, a much better 3-point shooter on the whole than Collins, can do with that much space. At least that's what I imagine the Hawks are thinking.

Their draft picks and roster moves over the last year say to me, "We're building around Trae," which means two things:

1. Guys who can defend to make up for Trae. Capela, Okongwu, Dunn, and young guys with potential like Hunter, Reddish, Mays, and Khyri Thomas.
2. Guys who can shoot 3s to take advantage of the space Trae creates. Gallinari, Huerter, and, again, the young guys with potential to shoot like Hunter, Reddish, Mays, and Khyri Thomas.

Collins doesn't fit into category 1, and he's not skilled enough a 3 pointer shooter to justify the price they'd have to pay him to stay. Especially since they haven't figured out Trae's long term deal yet. So I imagine they'll try to find a suitor to exchange for picks and other win-in-the-next-two-years sorts of assets.

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206. "Fred Van Vleet, 4yrs-$85mil, so happy for this dude, undrafted guy..."
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from a small school getting a bag.

I wonder if they try to move Lowry.

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208. "Gordon Hayward to the Hornets...4/120. Yuck!!"
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209. "TF?! lol"
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210. "Say what now?"
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211. "RE: Gordon Hayward to the Hornets...4/120. Yuck!!"
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Jordan is trash as an owner...good lord. 30 mil per for 4 years for Hayward bum ass???

That team is going to get shitted on.

Zero defense or athleticism.

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212. "Knicks fans everywhere thank Michael Jordan."
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"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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216. "Lmaooooo"
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217. "Someone out Knicked the Knicks lmao"
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Holy shit. Didn't think it was possible. Jordan is really bad at this man.

Dream with your eyes open.....

  

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218. "These fucks love some big white dudes "
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****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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219. "At first I was going to clown the Knicks for getting out-maneuvered..."
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...but then I saw that contract. Oof. Jordan saving the Knicks from themselves.

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224. "Gonna go against the grain a bit here.....he’ll produce there "
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Bet he’s 20+ ppg there on very good shooting numbers, and his game will mesh with who he’s on the court with. He’s a good player.

It’s an awful lot of money, and his health issues make it a bit risky. But IMO if healthy, he’ll at least play well for them. It’s not like he sucks now or anything.

Really they NEED to finally hit on a superstar in the draft with Ball. Their drafting history is just ridiculously bad.

  

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226. "So's their signing history."
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>Their drafting history is just ridiculously bad.

The last four biggest contracts they've written were for Hayward, Terry Rozier, Nic Batum, and Cody Zeller. It's an embarrassing franchise.

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227. "while true, Hayward is actually an all star caliber player IMO"
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If healthy.

  

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254. "that's a big if, and I'm not convinced it's true anymore regardless. "
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Here are the guys who should almost certainly be the ASG frontrunners in the East next year, health assumed:

backcourt:
Trae
Simmons
Lowry
Kemba
Kyrie

frontcourt:
Giannis
Embiid
Tatum
Butler
Durant
Siakam
Adebayo

now, let's say injuries and/or slips in quality of play lead to 2, maybe 3 of these guys losing their slot-- I'd say that's on the high end, but let's go for it.

Let's see who else is in the East:
Middleton
Sabonis
Jaylen Brown
Oladipo
VanVleet

I've got to think all of those guys would be ahead of Hayward, because they'll all be on good teams, and Charlotte is going to suck.

Hayward's got to be on the tier with someone like Zach LaVine, Kevin Love, or Brad Beal, where the only way he's gonna make an ASG is if (a) the team is playoff-good, or (b) he puts up like 26+ a game.

I honestly think LaMelo would be more likely to make an ASG than Hayward at this point, because if Charlotte's good enough to get its best players into ASG consideration, it'll fall on Melo's shoulders more than Hayward's imo.

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230. "RE: Gonna go against the grain a bit here.....he’ll produce there "
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Slow first step, defensive liability,zero athleticism, injury prone.


No way. The Celtics were actually better without him, because he took possessions away from the other three. He was reduced to a fourth option.

He is now basically the number 1 option for the hornets.

So a fourth option gets overpaid to become a 1st option on a team that is already bad.

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231. "3 of those 4 things are overstated "
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He’s a good player. If he’s healthy, he’ll produce.

It’s all about his health.

And yes, it’s still too much money. If you all want to talk like he sucks, have at it.

  

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233. "Not saying he sucks and that he will not get buckets.!"
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Just that a third or 4th option getting paid to be a first option is insane!

It’s a W for Gordon.

L for Jordan

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239. "If its 4 years, 40 million, everyone is applauding the move"
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He's a fine player

He's not near anything in the planet of what he got

  

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284. "this piece got me on board"
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https://www.atthehive.com/2020/11/23/21590868/nba-free-agency-news-gordon-hayward-charlotte-hornets-landed-the-best-truly-available-free-agent

  

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285. "Batum 2.0"
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286. "same contract"
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different player
The worst version of Hayward on the court is/was the best Batum could have ever been.
The biggest issue with Batum has been his disappearing usage.
He just stopped shooting. That was always in his personality on the court.
Hayward is simply a different guy. His issue will likely be health, never effort.

  

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228. "Oh wait Mitch Kupchack is the GM makes sense lol"
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213. "Avery Bradley to the Heat...2/11.6"
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...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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220. "I like this signing. Also, #FindlayPrep"
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Butler
Bam
Bradley

Switch all day.

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222. "That defense will be nasty. "
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214. "Jae Crowder to Phoenix...3/30"
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215. "RE: Jae Crowder to Phoenix...3/30"
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Wow. He was good on the heat.

Why is this dude a journeymen?

He is a solid player no matter where he goes,,,but he always goes.

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229. "Honestly I’ve asked the same question..."
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>Why is this dude a journeymen?

Should be a nice vet presence to go along with CP3 and the youngins

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234. "Rondo to Atlanta...2/15"
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...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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235. "rondo deserves this payday - well-earned"
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Lakers were not able to pay him that much - but this also could mean Atlanta is no longer in the Bogdan sweepstakes (I don't believe they have enough to offer after their signings) -- potentially Laker-bound?
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236. "Glad he got paid. Glad he didn’t go Clippers. Salud ‘Do. "
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237. "Tristan Thompson to Boston...2/19"
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244. "FindlayPrep"
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238. "KCP back. 3/40. "
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Let’s go.

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240. "I guess that’s the cost of doing business with Rich Paul"
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241. "13 a year. Not that bad. "
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245. "It is, especially that 3rd year, but it is what it is."
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247. "Meyers Leonard got 9 per. "
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KCP turned down 5/80 and it’s turning out to be 5/68.

It’s not bad. It’s his value.

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251. "Meyers Leonard is a 7 footer..."
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>KCP turned down 5/80 and it’s turning out to be 5/68.
>
>It’s not bad. It’s his value.

It’s his value when Rich Paul is his agent and we’re trying to re-sign AD.

Outside of that nobody is giving KCP $40mil but maybe your boy Mitch Kupchak but he was 2 busy giving Gordon Hayward $120mil.

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242. "Ainge keeps winning. Hated him as a player."
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They just bagged Tristan Thompson for 20 mil over 2 years.

12/10...board man. Not a star big, but a solid one to give them some
middle strength. Plus championship experience.

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ThaTruth
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246. "Nice pick up for them to go from Theis to Tristan "
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Castro
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266. "That was a come up for them. He can defend Bam."
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DJR
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243. "Nerlens Noel to the Knicks, 1 year $5 million "
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Dstl1
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248. "😟"
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...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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allStah
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249. "You gotta be kidding me."
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Tell me you’re bullshitting?

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Ryan M
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250. "Ibaka to the Clippers - 2/19"
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Good deal, great fit.

Lakers in 5.

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'19-'20 Bubble Lakers

X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X

2020 NBA Champions

  

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allStah
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255. "RE: Ibaka to the Clippers - 2/19"
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Hmm. I don’t know. This is a pretty strong lineup.

Beverly - George -Kawhi - Marcus Morris - Ibaka

Major bench pieces: Lou Wills, Kennard, Zubac - Patterson.

And if Lue could get them to gel....it’ll be very interesting.



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Dstl1
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252. "Atlanta...4/72 offer sheet for Bogdanovich..."
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will SAC match? Man...Gallo, Bogie and Rondo would be a strong FA period for Atlanta.

...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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253. "That pretty much confirms it."
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John Collins is going to get shipped. Those are a lot of offensive pieces to keep them all.

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Cold Truth
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256. "Yep, that's the biggest overall "level up" this FA period"
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CIPHA
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274. "Can somebody school me on Bogdanovich"
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I live in ATL so I've watched exactly zero Kings games in the last decade.

72 Mil seems like a lot for a dude who's never made an all-star team and didn't make 1st team Rookie or Sophomore.

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Dstl1
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257. "Lakers trying to get off of JaVale’s money..."
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so they can make an offer to Marc Gasol. Just make it harder for me to understand why Dwight didn’t stay. I really liked him there and he went to Philly for 2.6m

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262. "JaVale to Cleveland..."
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and some insight on Dwight’s departure
https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-dwight-howard-was-under-the-impression-he-had-offer-from-lakers-signed-with-76-ers-instead-024630843.html

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Dr Claw
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305. "JaVale deal seems to be a favor to You Know Who."
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But whatever, it's asset-shifting time, well overdue.

JaVale answers the "no Tristan" question and solidifies the Drummond scenario for the time being.

  

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258. "Wrong post"
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