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michaelo
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"what do soulq's charge??"


  

          

i'm sayin' how much is your fee for hookin' someone up. okay, you don't have to give me any figures, but how do you go about justifying how much to charge different people?
like, say the jazzies wanted a track or two. would you hook em' up cuz they were fam?(even though the record company prolly pays for it)
or if n'sync hit you guys up for a track. that's big $$$ right there.
i know y'all are pretty much a collective, but how do you work it out between everyone as far as who contributes what?
basically i'm asking what the creative process is like for you guys? or does it depend on the artist.

ALSO, D is a soulquarian obviously. is he going to be contributing more to various projects in the future? cuz i noticed he didn't on erykah's but he did on common's. what's up ur guy's sleeve for the immediate future?

ALSO, ALSO-have any "big" named artists step to you all and asked for contributions to there projects recently? i know mj did, but you guys nixed that for studio expenditures or something like that.

so, lay it on me somebodyd. i deserve to know!!!

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Subject Author Message Date ID
RE: what do soulq's charge??
JKilla
Mar 18th 2001
1
That's tunnel vision...
Mar 18th 2001
2
RE: That's tunnel vision...
Mar 18th 2001
3
jaydee and nsync n/m
Mar 18th 2001
4
Jay Dee and Jay-Z
Mar 18th 2001
5
      RE: Jay Dee and Jay-Z
Mar 18th 2001
7
           Jay Dee and Jay-Z
Mar 18th 2001
8
I hate pigeonholing people into categories
Mar 18th 2001
6
$$$$$$
Mar 18th 2001
9
????? 4 ?uest
octogon
Mar 18th 2001
10
RE: ????? 4 ?uest
JKilla
Mar 19th 2001
11
RE: ????? 4 ?uest
JKilla
Mar 19th 2001
12
More Tunnel Vision...
Mar 19th 2001
13
RE: More Tunnel Vision...
JKilla
Mar 19th 2001
15
      Explanation, please...
Mar 19th 2001
19
           RE: Explanation, please...
JKilla
Mar 19th 2001
22
                you think you know what this is about?
Mar 20th 2001
30
                RE: you think you know what this is about?
JKilla
Mar 20th 2001
32
                RE: you think you know what this is about?
Mar 24th 2001
49
                RE: Explanation, please...
Mar 21st 2001
41
jkilled
Mar 19th 2001
24
      RE: jkilled
JKilla
Mar 20th 2001
29
      RE: jkilled
Mar 21st 2001
40
           too easy
octogon
Mar 21st 2001
43
           RE: jkilled
JKilla
Mar 22nd 2001
48
      so now ends justify means....
makedax
Mar 20th 2001
31
      hardly
Mar 21st 2001
34
           RE: hardly
MoDiggy
Mar 21st 2001
35
                RE: hardly
JKilla
Mar 21st 2001
38
                RE: hardly
livefrom215
Mar 21st 2001
46
      DAMN!!!!!!
Mar 21st 2001
45
RE: ????? 4 ?uest
Mar 19th 2001
23
      Re: N'Sync jawn
Mar 20th 2001
25
      Word is...
octogon
Mar 20th 2001
27
      RE: ????? 4 ?uest
livefrom215
Mar 21st 2001
44
      How much does J-Dilla charge?
Mar 22nd 2001
47
RE: $$$$$$
Mar 19th 2001
14
look Mike O
Michaelangelo
Mar 21st 2001
37
off the subject
Mar 21st 2001
39
Your signature
Mar 21st 2001
42
RE: what do soulq's charge??
Mar 19th 2001
16
All I Wanna Know.......
Mar 19th 2001
17
too much..n/m
Mar 19th 2001
18
We'll do you track
Missing_Element
Mar 20th 2001
28
maybe u should call it..
Michaelangelo
Mar 21st 2001
36
RE: what do soulq's charge??
JKilla
Mar 19th 2001
21
RE: what do soulq's charge??
Mar 19th 2001
20
approximately
Mar 20th 2001
26
Visa, Master Card, American Express, and Discovery
Mar 20th 2001
33

JKilla

Sun Mar-18-01 03:17 PM

  
1. "RE: what do soulq's charge??"
In response to Reply # 0


          

I hope the Soulquarians don't do anything with n'sync or any pop music star because that's not soul music. You can't be anybody to be blessed with a soulquarian track. It has to be a soulful person like D'angelo, Bilal, Badu, Common, Jill, Musiq, etc. Even someone like Mary J would be worthy of a Soulquarian track. I can't speak for them, but looking at their track record; I don't think it has anything to do with the money, but the artist themselve. So I think they charge you soul instead of major money( Yes their is a fee though). Peace and Love

  

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khimes
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2. "That's tunnel vision..."
In response to Reply # 1


  

          

I think the Soulquarians should work with whoever can bless their music. I don't care that much for N'Sync, but I heard an a capella track from their current album, and the harmony was off the meter! Now I was imagining what it would sound like with some great music behind the vocals, and I can hear ?uest's crisp drums keeping time, and a little bit of James on the keys, and maybe even Pino on the bass. In other words, I agree on them not just working with any ol' body. But saying they should only work with people in the quote unquote "soul" category would leave out a lot of heavyweight contenders.


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3. "RE: That's tunnel vision..."
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i agree wholeheartedly.

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4. "jaydee and nsync n/m"
In response to Reply # 1


          

-thebigfunk
"And you may ask yourself... what is that beautiful house?
And you may ask yourself... where does that highway go?
And you may ask yourself... Am I right? Am I wrong?
And you may ask yourself... MY GOD! WHAT HAVE I DONE!?!" - "Once In A Lifetime" - Talking Heads

"Trouble in transit/got through the roadblock/we blended with the crowd
We got computer/we're tapping phone lines/I know that ain't allowed
We dress like students/we dress like housewives/or in a suit and a tie
I changed my hairstyle/so many times now/I don't know what I look like!
You make me shiver/I feel so tender/we make a pretty good team
Don't get exhausted/I'll do some driving/you ought to get some sleep
Get you instructions/follow directions/then you should change your address
Maybe tomorrow/Maybe the next day/Whatever you think is best
Burned all my notebooks/What good are notebooks?/They won't help me survive...
My chest is aching/Burns like a furnace/The burning keeps me alive..." - "Life During Wartime" - Talking Heads

-thebigfunk

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Ricochet
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5. "Jay Dee and Jay-Z"
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Its not about the money right?.......but I heard somewhere my dog Jay Dee might be producing a track for Jigga and I know the cat is getting major pringles for that one....if you ask me the Soulquarians might do a track for Nelly if the doe is right. Who wouldn't give a beat for good money? After all is said and done we all have bills to pay.

One
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OKAY Uncle Ricochet- Giving You True Wisdom Since 2001

Shouts 2 Da One Shot Fam

"If I don't like it, I don't like it, that don't mean that i'm hatin'"- Common

Can I get a freakin record deal!!!

"I stay on ya mind like great sex, you ain't on my mind i'm thinkin bout pay checks"- Jay Dee

F--- a quote.

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GB9
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7. "RE: Jay Dee and Jay-Z"
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>Its not about the money right?.......but
>I heard somewhere my dog
>Jay Dee might be producing
>a track for Jigga and
>I know the cat is
>getting major pringles for that
>one....if you ask me the
>Soulquarians might do a track
>for Nelly if the doe
>is right. Who wouldn't give
>a beat for good money?
>After all is said and
>done we all have bills
>to pay.

jay dee producing for jigga is no surprise to me, jay z can rhyme, he has skills, jay dee has skillz, they both dont see anything wrong with bein about girls or money, i dont see this being anything more than a dope beat for jay z and a good payday for jay dee, that collaboration seems fine
If the dough was righter than right i still dont think they would do a track for nelly, unless they gave him a scrap joint they dont like or did one as a joke or some shit. nelly would have to live in a studio with them for a month and get schooled and make a real song.
and after all is said and done we all have bills to pay, but if you think the okayartists are making this music to pay their bills then i think your mistaken, i think if it was like that they would have made a moneymakinmusicscheme a long time ago.
"moneymakinmusicscheme" <---word of the day

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Ricochet
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8. "Jay Dee and Jay-Z"
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>and after all is said and
>done we all have bills
>to pay, but if you
>think the okayartists are making
>this music to pay their
>bills then i think your
>mistaken, i think if it
>was like that they would
>have made a moneymakinmusicscheme a
>long time ago.

I didnt say okayplayer artists made music just to pay bills but i'm sure us purchasing their albums and singles did help a little.

Oh and the Nelly thing was a joke dog!

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OKAY Uncle Ricochet- Giving You True Wisdom Since 2001

Shouts 2 Da One Shot Fam

"If I don't like it, I don't like it, that don't mean that i'm hatin'"- Common

Can I get a freakin record deal!!!

"I stay on ya mind like great sex, you ain't on my mind i'm thinkin bout pay checks"- Jay Dee

F--- a quote.

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zero
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6. "I hate pigeonholing people into categories"
In response to Reply # 1


          

I'd hope for the Soulquarians to branch out from doing strictly soul/hip-hop. Perhaps a 'rock' track with Vernon Reid, or weird Prince influenced bluesy joint with Beck. Work with artists that we wouldn't expect to see them on the same record with.

this J Dilla/N Sync collabo interests me for that very reason.

-zeroš

  

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qoolquest
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9. "$$$$$$"
In response to Reply # 0


          

i actually make less when i roll with the s.
so it would behoove me to be greedier.

word on nsync in a week. i would do it not cause i would make cheddar, but i love the challenge of rolling with cats i "ain't" supposed to.

d is hard at work on dirty souls.

live album back on.

and....




the source mic ratings 1990-2001


@@@@@
-edutainment (funny in the annivrsery issue they left this out...but i have the ice cube issue when they first started rating albums)
-people's instintive travels and the paths of rhythm
-amerikkka's most wanted
-let the rhythm hit em
-all for one
-de la soul is dead
-illmatic
-life after death
-aquemini
-niggaz4life* (not reveiwed but in summer issue 92 they mentioned it as a 5mic classic)

@@@@1/2
-sex and violence
-buisiness as usual
-business never personal
-whut thee album
-breaking atoms
-death certifacate
-buhloone mindstate
-the chronic
-enter the 36 chambers
-southernplayerlisticadillacmusic
-life after death
-the infamous
-only built 4 cuban links
-illadelph halflife
-hell on earth
-bow down
-i am
-murder muzick
-life story
-classic limited edition vol 1
-guerilla warfare
-in my lifetime vol.3
-la rock familia
-ecleftic:two sides to a story
-moment of truth
-supreame clientel
-last of a dying breed
-the truth

the gag mics-
fear of a black planet-@@@1/2
da shinin-@@@
stankonia-@@@@
lootpack-@@1/2
ressurection-@@@1/2
the beatnuts-@@@1/2**
mos def and talib kweli are black star-@@@1/2
the love movement-@@@1/2
fantastic vol 2-@@@1/2

*-source never reviewed, but mentioned in summer issue that it was a 5 mic classic.

**-the only record to change a rating after printing. in the next issue they printed (in fine print that it was a @@@@ mic album)


check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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octogon

Sun Mar-18-01 11:18 PM

  
10. "????? 4 ?uest"
In response to Reply # 9


          

So the nsync jawn is a SoulQ product and not a payJay product?

Will the Dirty Souls work come out before D's next studio LP?

When's D'Live coming out?! ('On the CD Front' lists June 2001)

Is De La going to name 'Art Official Intelligence (Vol. 2)' Soulquarian Thump?

How much of the Tribe reunion album is done? Will the UMMAH/SoulQ's be producing this one or will it just be Ali and Tip? AKA Will you (?uest) and Jay be producing any of this?

Is Masterpiece Theatre almost done?

Just some ?uestions...

octogon

  

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JKilla

Mon Mar-19-01 08:07 AM

  
11. "RE: ????? 4 ?uest"
In response to Reply # 10


          

Yo I'm starting to think by reading these post that the Soulquarians are bullshit. Man they holla about all the commercial emcees and artist, and then say shit like I'll work with n'sync because it's a challenge. Yo don't you think niggas like Jay Z, DMX, Nas, and others can rap about the street and hustling they whole career. Yet they took chances by turning in there street stories for dollars signs. To me ya'll aren't doing it for the love, but for the money. N'synce and other pop shit is not a challenge it's money; sorry you can't fool a real nigga. See that's the thing they would do something for n'synce before they would do something with DMX, Nas, or even Beans. I mean Jdilla is apart of the Soulquarians, but he's always bless other niggas in Hip Hop with nice tracks(Busta Ryhmes for why you niggas hate him). Have these happy ass emcees couldn't get in a chipher and fuck with niggas like Jay Z, X, and Beans. I've always like the Soulquarians but when they talk about somebody and do the same thing, that's bullshit. I don't hate somebody who tries to get paid, but say that don't be on some I do it for the love shit. Peace and Love

  

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JKilla

Mon Mar-19-01 08:09 AM

  
12. "RE: ????? 4 ?uest"
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My bad, Half these happy emcees

  

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khimes
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13. "More Tunnel Vision..."
In response to Reply # 11


  

          

Maybe I understand because I'm a musician who wants to get into the business as either an artist or a producer. But when somebody says they create music "for the love of music", that means the reason they would create any piece of music is because they like to do it. You can't hate on the preference of who he/she/they create music WITH. Just because the Soulquarians haven't made a track with Jay-Z or DMX doesn't mean they only collaborate to get paid. You can't even include Beans in this argument because he was on The Roots' "Adrenaline!". From what I can tell, the Soulquarians work with people who either (a) fit the so-called "soul" category or (b) people who can truly BLESS a Soulquarian track. Me personally, I think Jigga and DMX would be crucified by "real niggas" for doing a collabo with the likes of ?uestlove and James Poyser (I didn't include Jay Dee cause he does a lot of rap, and D doesn't really count because he can sing the hell out of a hook), but I would probably like it. We should just appreciate the product if the Soulquarians do indeed work with pop artists like N'Sync. If nothing else, you know the music will sound great!

K. Himes
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JKilla

Mon Mar-19-01 09:30 AM

  
15. "RE: More Tunnel Vision..."
In response to Reply # 13


          

Yo I'm also a Muscian, Poet, and Buisnessman See n'sync is bullshit point blank, and if you colaborate with bullshit you bullshit, sorry. You kissing ass because you trying to get in the game, and I love the music because hip hop and soul music was meant for soulfull black people, sorry again. White people have stole everything we created just like commercial hip hop(Eminem whites holla he's bigger than Hip Hop). That's what white people do pay you a lot of money then steal your shit. Let the Quarians do something with n'sync the Soulquarians want get nothing but a paycheck. No credit for the music it would be call a new sound from n'sync. I'm pretty sure if you knew X you would know he would love to work with the Soulquarians, but the question is would they, proberly not. They would do n'synce though, that's bullllllllshit!!!!!!!

  

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khimes
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19. "Explanation, please..."
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Why is N'Sync "bullshit" to you? Because they're white? Or do you have more credible reasons? Like I said, I wouldn't blast their music all day long because I don't care for them, but I can't deny the fact that they can sing. About the a cappella track off their album? I had a friend of mine who is very well knowledgeable in music tell me that they utilize very complex harmonies and arrangements when they sing. As far as I can tell, that's what ?uest et al love: shit that the average Keep It Real Kenny can't do. And NO, I'm NOT kissing ass just to get in the game, I'm stating an honest opinion. I think that working with N'Sync would be a good deal for the Soulquarians' dedication to art as well as their pocketbooks. And I'm ASSUMING that if X really wanted to work with the Soulquarians, he just has to reach out to them. They might decline, but wanting to work with someone and really TRYING to work with someone is two different things.


K. Himes
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JKilla

Mon Mar-19-01 09:55 PM

  
22. "RE: Explanation, please..."
In response to Reply # 19


          

Yo they can't sing, period. Bilal can sing, D'angelo can sing, Musiq can sing, R kelly can sing, Jaheim can sing, Jill Scott can sing, Badu can sing, Mary J can sing, Kelly Price can sing, must I go on. It's not because they're white, Jon B is white and he can sing better than them, for real!! X is the shit, but this isn't about X this about soulful singers with soulful production. N'syne is not soulful at all, unless they've been eating some greens, cornbread, and black-eyed peas(the right way). I doubt that!!!!!!!

  

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h20molecule
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30. "you think you know what this is about?"
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no this is about you trying to enforce your closeminded view of music on the rest of the okayplayer community.

by the way, you stated that you mix art with bullshit then you get bullshit but I believe you are being pessimistic. Do you feel that the bullshit of N'Sync will taint the artisticness of a track produced by SoulQ's?

I haven't ever really listend to N'Sync music and I don't have cable so I don't even think I can name one song by them. I haven't been exposed to them enough to build any animosity. Maybe if I saw what they were like I would empathize with you more but I DO know you cannot be certain about what is motivating an artist when they create. Perhaps dollars do come into the mix but so what? The Cistene Chapel was a commissioned work. You don't see no Italians talking about "Michaelangelo was on some old getting paid bullshit...fuck the chapel and fuck that David statue too..." In all reality, all of our greatest artists that we know of achieved wealth and fame from their work except for a few post-impressionists like Van Gogh. Art is nothing but creation...expression and revelation of the self to the self. If you can get paid to do that at the same time cool. Some folks don't really create, I will grant you that, but you cannot get caught up in thinking that money somehow taints art. If that is the case then you gotta call coltrane and davis and simone and wonder and everybody else a sellout except for that cat on the corner singing for the hell of it.

h20

P.S. I like the way you jumped on qoolquest's sack when he replied to you in person. you on some super fan isht huh? Trying to steer the direction of your favorite artitst but being a sycophant at the same time.

h20
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JKilla

Tue Mar-20-01 09:00 PM

  
32. "RE: you think you know what this is about?"
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What the fuck you talking bout

  

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49. "RE: you think you know what this is about?"
In response to Reply # 30


          

good shit...haha



>The Cistene Chapel was a
>commissioned work. You don't
>see no Italians talking about
>"Michaelangelo was on some old
>getting paid bullshit...fuck the chapel
>and fuck that David statue
>too

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41. "RE: Explanation, please..."
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Correction, R.Kelly CANNOT sing...

  

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24. "jkilled"
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>Yo I'm starting to think by
>reading these post that the
>Soulquarians are bullshit.

i'm always on that bullshit dun!


Man
>they holla about all the
>commercial emcees and artist, and
>then say shit like I'll
>work with n'sync because it's
>a challenge.

oh!!! you mean that rhyme i kicked a few albums back?
"strollin in my puma's on the avenue,
fake emcess im gonna be crashin you
sellout out to the man, now i'm asking you
is there anything wrong in cashin' you?



Yo don't
>you think niggas like Jay
>Z, DMX, Nas, and others
>can rap about the street
>and hustling they whole career.
> Yet they took chances
>by turning in there street
>stories for dollars signs.

what's good for the gander....


>To me ya'll aren't doing
>it for the love, but
>for the money. N'synce
>and other pop shit is
>not a challenge it's money;
>sorry you can't fool a
>real nigga.

damn i tried to get you with the ism schism. you got me.




See that's
>the thing they would do
>something for n'synce before they
>would do something with DMX,
>Nas, or even Beans.

did you know that beans made his debut on my cd?



>I mean Jdilla is apart
>of the Soulquarians, but he's
>always bless other niggas in
>Hip Hop with nice tracks(Busta
>Ryhmes for why you niggas
>hate him).

bust ain't never done nothin to me, and the last time i counted i have 13 jaydee/busta songs on cd.

Have these
>happy ass emcees couldn't get
>in a chipher and fuck
>with niggas like Jay Z,
>X, and Beans.

that'll turn us into real niggas huh?


I've
>always like the Soulquarians but
>when they talk about somebody
>and do the same thing,
>that's bullshit.

well....as my man tony soprano says "hey...whattdaya gonna do?"




I don't
>hate somebody who tries to
>get paid,

hey no matter how much money i get imma burn it all to flames!


but say that
>don't be on some I
>do it for the love
>shit.

DEAR OKAY WORLD,
I'VE JUST BEEN OUTED. LET'S GATHER A HAND FOR SIR KILLA. IN HIS GENIUS METHOD OF CATCHING ME RED HANDED FOR MAKING A LIVING. I'M SUPPOSED TO STAY POOR. IMMA IXNAY THIS NSYNC SHIT CAUSE MY PRIDE IS'NT WORTH IT. AND TO THINK I COULDA INVESTED MO MONEY IN THIS SITE INSTEAD OF CUTTING CORNERS THAT WE ARE SO OBVIOUSLY CUTTIN ALREADY. WHILE IM AT IT.

DOWN WITH CAPITALISM!

satisfied motherfucker?



Peace and Love
>


the source mic ratings 1990-2001


@@@@@
-edutainment (funny in the annivrsery issue they left this out...but i have the ice cube issue when they first started rating albums)
-people's instintive travels and the paths of rhythm
-amerikkka's most wanted
-let the rhythm hit em
-all for one
-de la soul is dead
-illmatic
-life after death
-aquemini
-niggaz4life* (not reveiwed but in summer issue 92 they mentioned it as a 5mic classic)

@@@@1/2
-sex and violence
-buisiness as usual
-business never personal
-whut thee album
-breaking atoms
-death certifacate
-buhloone mindstate
-the chronic
-enter the 36 chambers
-southernplayerlisticadillacmusic
-life after death
-the infamous
-only built 4 cuban links
-illadelph halflife
-hell on earth
-bow down
-i am
-murder muzick
-life story
-classic limited edition vol 1
-guerilla warfare
-in my lifetime vol.3
-la rock familia
-ecleftic:two sides to a story
-moment of truth
-supreame clientel
-last of a dying breed
-the truth

the gag mics-
fear of a black planet-@@@1/2
da shinin-@@@
stankonia-@@@@
lootpack-@@1/2
ressurection-@@@1/2
the beatnuts-@@@1/2**
mos def and talib kweli are black star-@@@1/2
the love movement-@@@1/2
fantastic vol 2-@@@1/2

*-source never reviewed, but mentioned in summer issue that it was a 5 mic classic.

**-the only record to change a rating after printing. in the next issue they printed (in fine print that it was a @@@@ mic album)


check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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JKilla

Tue Mar-20-01 08:40 AM

  
29. "RE: jkilled"
In response to Reply # 24


          

I finally got my dogg qoolquest amped up, just relax like you told me to on Common's new album. I know you in this to win this it's all love, dogg. I got a year before I graduate and I'll be making major $$$$$$; so make your $$$$$$$,but make sure you take Coomon to that other level. Peace and Love!!! Oh yea since I'm killed can I come back alive now

  

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40. "RE: jkilled"
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Damn, did anyone else see how fast Jkilla swung on quest's nutsac.

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octogon

Wed Mar-21-01 01:12 PM

  
43. "too easy"
In response to Reply # 40


          

!?

  

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JKilla

Thu Mar-22-01 09:24 AM

  
48. "RE: jkilled"
In response to Reply # 40


          

Naw I got love for the nigga just wanted fuck with him, but if you still wanna know what I think about him and n'sync, BULLSHIT ALWAYS!

  

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makedax

Tue Mar-20-01 01:35 PM

  
31. "so now ends justify means...."
In response to Reply # 24


          


you are a dope ass musician, i caint nothin from u on that....and personally i dont give a damn who u work with cause i dont have to buy it....but.....to compromise your beliefs for some dough is bullshit, no matter how u slice it. no matter how much good u claim to do with the money. (i.e. ***hey, heres an idea! why dont i go and slang some rock, get paid, then open up some community centers for the youth!) cop out.


p.e.a.c.e
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34. "hardly"
In response to Reply # 31


          

i don't equate, doing shit for nsync the equal of killing my people by selling drugs. and until you walked in my shoes y'all can't say a goddamn thing.

if the outcoming product is lackluster, then that's a comprimise. me? i don't worship money that much that i'm just beggin some big star to work with. personally i'm not mad at all at nsync. so that's why i would even consider a move. believe me. there are a scillion projects that i rejected that coulda easily set me straight on some large crib x5 shit.


so cut that elite truer than thou bullshit out and give it to the next man. cause at the end of the day. i gotta look in the mirror. and i never lose sleep regreting anything i've done in my carrer.

bust dat.



the source mic ratings 1990-2001


@@@@@
-edutainment (funny in the annivrsery issue they left this out...but i have the ice cube issue when they first started rating albums)
-people's instintive travels and the paths of rhythm
-amerikkka's most wanted
-let the rhythm hit em
-all for one
-de la soul is dead
-illmatic
-life after death
-aquemini
-niggaz4life* (not reveiwed but in summer issue 92 they mentioned it as a 5mic classic)

@@@@1/2
-sex and violence
-buisiness as usual
-business never personal
-whut thee album
-breaking atoms
-death certifacate
-buhloone mindstate
-the chronic
-enter the 36 chambers
-southernplayerlisticadillacmusic
-life after death
-the infamous
-only built 4 cuban links
-illadelph halflife
-hell on earth
-bow down
-i am
-murder muzick
-life story
-classic limited edition vol 1
-guerilla warfare
-in my lifetime vol.3
-la rock familia
-ecleftic:two sides to a story
-moment of truth
-supreame clientel
-last of a dying breed
-the truth

the gag mics-
fear of a black planet-@@@1/2
da shinin-@@@
stankonia-@@@@
lootpack-@@1/2
ressurection-@@@1/2
the beatnuts-@@@1/2**
mos def and talib kweli are black star-@@@1/2
the love movement-@@@1/2
fantastic vol 2-@@@1/2

*-source never reviewed, but mentioned in summer issue that it was a 5 mic classic.

**-the only record to change a rating after printing. in the next issue they printed (in fine print that it was a @@@@ mic album)


check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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MoDiggy

Wed Mar-21-01 06:03 AM

  
35. "RE: hardly"
In response to Reply # 34


          

I could care less who you make music with. If it's tight I'll get it.....if not...holla. I can think of a few white atrists that I would LOVE to hear on a SQ's track. I mean...can you imagine a collabo with Sting?? I'm sorry, but that shit would be hot!! N'Sync doesn't sound any worse than some of these black cats we got out here. (No, I am NOT promoting them) I think the problem is that the perception is that they will do anything for a $. Not because of the love for the music. Dunno, but at some point niggas gotta eat too.

  

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JKilla

Wed Mar-21-01 08:16 AM

  
38. "RE: hardly"
In response to Reply # 35


          

Boy I tell you niggas be wild'in on that bullshit!!!! Fuck n'synce, ?uest could we talk about when we'll get a SOulquarian album, not a produced album(LWFC, MAMAS Gun, etc.) a Quarian album(With all the SOulquarians on it even the new members like myself): : :

  

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livefrom215

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46. "RE: hardly"
In response to Reply # 35


          

Yo YO! Just sayin sumthin sumthin. I actually think nsync, despite my deep loathe for their music, may actually have alittle talent in their voice. It's just not really soulful, hardly! But i once heard them play live on hbo just flickin through channels and there backup band actually did a lite sumthin sumthin and wasnt bad. but then the singers came back out and i laughed at the choreography of their danses and switched channels.

Hey heres a shoutout to all my g-town crew!
"G-town in the house, do you want more?!?!?!!" -DYWM- I still rock all y'all albuums on weekly if not dayly basis.

Hey, gotta represent where I'm from!

  

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45. "DAMN!!!!!!"
In response to Reply # 24


  

          

1. ROCK YOU!
2. respond/react
3. section
4. the next movement
5. clones
6. distortion to static
7. concerto of a desperado
8. the pros (riq changed it to "the root's taking over!")
9. nothing new
10.the lesson pt 1
11.china raw (why dice calls it this i don't know....)
12.double trouble
13.what you want
14.lesson part3
15.proceed
16.adrenaline
17.you got me
18.silent treatment
19. solos

This is how they ROCK Shit!!!!!!!!

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23. "RE: ????? 4 ?uest"
In response to Reply # 10


          

>So the nsync jawn is a
>SoulQ product and not a
>payJay product?

well general rule of thumb is when 2 or more SQ's are gathered, it is SQs.

jay is putting me d with this on some drum shit. but then again, anything can happen.

so....





the source mic ratings 1990-2001


@@@@@
-edutainment (funny in the annivrsery issue they left this out...but i have the ice cube issue when they first started rating albums)
-people's instintive travels and the paths of rhythm
-amerikkka's most wanted
-let the rhythm hit em
-all for one
-de la soul is dead
-illmatic
-life after death
-aquemini
-niggaz4life* (not reveiwed but in summer issue 92 they mentioned it as a 5mic classic)

@@@@1/2
-sex and violence
-buisiness as usual
-business never personal
-whut thee album
-breaking atoms
-death certifacate
-buhloone mindstate
-the chronic
-enter the 36 chambers
-southernplayerlisticadillacmusic
-life after death
-the infamous
-only built 4 cuban links
-illadelph halflife
-hell on earth
-bow down
-i am
-murder muzick
-life story
-classic limited edition vol 1
-guerilla warfare
-in my lifetime vol.3
-la rock familia
-ecleftic:two sides to a story
-moment of truth
-supreame clientel
-last of a dying breed
-the truth

the gag mics-
fear of a black planet-@@@1/2
da shinin-@@@
stankonia-@@@@
lootpack-@@1/2
ressurection-@@@1/2
the beatnuts-@@@1/2**
mos def and talib kweli are black star-@@@1/2
the love movement-@@@1/2
fantastic vol 2-@@@1/2

*-source never reviewed, but mentioned in summer issue that it was a 5 mic classic.

**-the only record to change a rating after printing. in the next issue they printed (in fine print that it was a @@@@ mic album)


check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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25. "Re: N'Sync jawn"
In response to Reply # 23


  

          

So there's a strong possibility that N'Sync's next album could have a Soulquarian track on it (or two)? I think this would be the only way I bought their album, just to hear what goodness you and Jay would give them. Props to working with artists who present a challenge. I also would like to know if they (N'Sync) reached out to Jay Dee and asked him to work on their next album. That would be a big compliment for him, considering the number of people who are still ignorant to the man's catalogue.

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octogon

Tue Mar-20-01 07:38 AM

  
27. "Word is..."
In response to Reply # 25


          

...the SQ jawn is a remix for a track on nsync's next album. And seeing that it's a remix, what are the chances it's gonna be on the album?

octogon

  

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livefrom215

Wed Mar-21-01 07:59 PM

  
44. "RE: ????? 4 ?uest"
In response to Reply # 23


          

What about TFA???
Didn't Things Fall Apart get gagged and got like 4 mics or sumthin???





"We gotta free Mumia with that cugichocolia" -Talib K. of Black Star-

  

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47. "How much does J-Dilla charge?"
In response to Reply # 23


          

I've always wondered? I wonder if Phat Kat and Que D and them get a super discount and if Busta and Jigga have to (or their labels) fork over major dollas for dilla? PayJay right?

How about Primo? It seems to me he gives beat to anybody nowadays (718 is a prime example...)

Peace.

  

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14. "RE: $$$$$$"
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dirty souls 2001?????? i'm feeling that. what's there sound gonna be like?? jay dee/s.v.?? live music? soulquarians sound?? help me out....

thank you & goodbye

okayplayer: "IT'S NOT A CULT!!!"

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Michaelangelo

Wed Mar-21-01 08:12 AM

  
37. "look Mike O"
In response to Reply # 14


          

dirty souls will probably be gritty being that about 3-3 1/2 years ago, D told them that they needed to come out harder...wtf

now that's funny...Michael Archer telling them that they need to come out harder...I have known Eugene since '90, yet I never knew the nigga could rhyme...still don't know...ain't heard nada yet...whaddup with dat dhere........????

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39. "off the subject"
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I think The Source once changed a mic rating for Mac Mall's "Illegal Business" LP after the review was printed. I'm not at the crib right now...so I can't check for sure.

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42. "Your signature"
In response to Reply # 9


  

          

>the gag mics-
>fear of a black planet-@@@1/2
>da shinin-@@@
>stankonia-@@@@
>lootpack-@@1/2
>ressurection-@@@1/2
>the beatnuts-@@@1/2**
>mos def and talib kweli are
>black star-@@@1/2
>the love movement-@@@1/2
>fantastic vol 2-@@@1/2

You can add the 3.5 rating received by both "93 Til Infinity" and "Funcrusher Plus" to that list. And "Low End Theory" also got a 5 mic review if I'm not mistaken.


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16. "RE: what do soulq's charge??"
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they charge 4 music cuz they r artists, 2 be recognize cuz they r artists, 4 money cuz they r artists...i mean i think they r gifted ,if u r like me, u'd think "why other arists leave them in the musical ghetto?" i'd loathe at ?uest if he hit Nshit wit somethin but we also like him cuz he takes chances no?
he's an artist, at least he should make a jam wit dem (if they know what it is).
like most soulq's followers i look at them as the good guys that should work only wit good guys. but remember they wanna be the cuttin edge, isn't it selfish if they don't influence some peers and bring them 2 the promise land?. 4 instance i hate DMX version of bill withers "ain't no sunshine",let us imagin ?uest, jajapo, pino, jef lee on the wah guitar, bilal 4 the chorus....good hum?
when people r willing 2 work wit em, u think d should be like "dr.dre? chicken grease sample? clear it? u'll pay me big? i'm an artist i don't give a fuck bout your money!" or the same 4 jay-z & jay dee; i say let them bring something new in2 their peers minds. and niggas sayin they "on the top/wether they perform or not" or "after me there will be none" should pay 'em big so they can put money on new shit 4 the fam. on the other hand they might be used in order 2 make money: see how r kelly uses jay-z as his hoe (fiesta remix).
remember d sayin 2 ?uest that he can't do nothin musically-forced (although he was workin wit princess leia aka lauryn hill) and remember ?uest ask us 2 think about,in things fall apart liner notes, "what would happen if we don't give the crowd what they want but what they need?"... in my opinion ahmir talks about freedom: let me be free of doin something new and u be free-minded & open-minded, artistry knows no limit.


i agree if they work wit vernon reid cuz charlie hunter is good but not funky enough: d should re-do "the root" wit ?uest, pino, vernon

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17. "All I Wanna Know......."
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is how much would the Soulquarians charge an unsigned emcee who is bringing out an independent album entitled "The World Needs.." in Fall 2001 ***plug***

Let me know.

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18. "too much..n/m"
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Missing_Element

Tue Mar-20-01 08:28 AM

  
28. "We'll do you track"
In response to Reply # 17


          

Concept a movement in music...

what up son? you need a track? check out the complation cd and we did #15 for ish. tell me what you think

peace and blessing
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Michaelangelo

Wed Mar-21-01 08:08 AM

  
36. "maybe u should call it.."
In response to Reply # 17


          

what the world needs...


"the Haterade pitcher should be empty by now"

*******and dat's all I got to say bout dat******

  

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JKilla

Mon Mar-19-01 09:46 PM

  
21. "RE: what do soulq's charge??"
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What the Fuck you talking about!!!!!!

  

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20. "RE: what do soulq's charge??"
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>okayplayer: "IT'S NOT A CULT!!!"

...its a den of sarcasm.

  

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26. "approximately"
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I think it's at least 20,000 $ for production (depending on whether you want a couple of tracks to a full album), but
probably more, with the grammies, Common and D's album ...

Plus studio expenses, hotel, etcetera ...

Start saving !



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33. "Visa, Master Card, American Express, and Discovery"
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...Everywhere you see the Novus sign.
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