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"stop hollering at women on the street."


  

          

stop it.

stop asking women where they men at

stop calling women over to talk to you while you're sitting in your car

stop telling them to smile (word to t.lynn faz - http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_majg4g5JyX1r1kx42o1_500.jpg)

stop interrupting them when theyre on the phone, listening to music, reading a book or otherwise preoccupied

stop pressing when she tells you she's not interested

don't continue trying to talk to her after it's clear she's ignoring you

stop thinking that 'damn baby you got a fat ass' is a compliment

when she turns you down, don't call her a bitch and tell her she ain't that cute anyway

stop feeling like we owe you time or conversation

if she snaps at you, don't blame her

stop hollering at women on the street.

just fucking stop it.
tell your sons/cousins/uncles/friends/etc to stop it, too.
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RE: stop hollering at women on the street.
Sep 27th 2012
1
ok
Sep 27th 2012
7
all seriousness. What if you approuch a woman correctly.
Sep 27th 2012
2
there's no correct way to approach a woman on the street.
Sep 27th 2012
10
      that sucks.
Sep 27th 2012
22
      I'm starting to believe this.. cause I try my best to be open to whateve...
Sep 27th 2012
41
      You notice him. He notices you noticing him. Yall lock eyes.
Sep 27th 2012
153
      Not true
Sep 27th 2012
94
      Are others in agreeance?
Sep 27th 2012
140
i support this post, forreal
Sep 27th 2012
3
Unless you think hes cute in which case Holla away
Sep 27th 2012
4
approaching a woman on the street is unattractive, no matter
Sep 27th 2012
9
No matter what he looks like? Like no discussion at all? nm
Sep 27th 2012
42
dont buy that, at any price
Sep 27th 2012
99
... TO YOU
Sep 28th 2012
476
ugh, blame the victim
Sep 27th 2012
12
      Now just the simple act of hollering victimizes women
Sep 27th 2012
25
      man, shut yo gay ass up...
Sep 27th 2012
38
      man, I be trying, but...I'm glad you said something.
Sep 27th 2012
54
      naw, clown ass nigga
Sep 27th 2012
71
      forgive me for laughing at this..out loud...at work. please+thanks
Sep 27th 2012
260
      Your avi is being used from a malware site. Please change it.
Sep 27th 2012
373
           I've had this avi for months. I aint changing nothin til the O's season ...
Sep 27th 2012
437
                You don't have to change it, just upload that image to another domain.
Sep 27th 2012
438
                Lol no doubt!
Sep 28th 2012
473
      Fix your sig fuck ass!!
Sep 27th 2012
324
      It's daryloneal avatar.
Sep 27th 2012
376
      Thats not what im talkig about. Im talking about assholes that dont sepe...
Sep 27th 2012
453
      lmao
Sep 27th 2012
428
      Lmfao. Simple yet effective.
Sep 27th 2012
439
      LMAO
Sep 28th 2012
458
           hardeeharhar mofos. gay>>>stuck in ur sad rape culture world
Sep 28th 2012
586
      i hate when okp latches onto a buzzword as evidence of enlightenment
Sep 27th 2012
101
           niggas read the back of one bell hooks book and BOOM.
Sep 27th 2012
109
           uh i experience the affects fo patriarchial bullshit in my own
Sep 27th 2012
131
           that is simultaneously entirely possible, unfortunate, and irrelevant
Sep 27th 2012
163
                k
Sep 27th 2012
227
                     lol that was all this ridiculous post deserved in the first place
Sep 27th 2012
238
           well said
Sep 27th 2012
451
I just found out that this is something that only developed in
Sep 27th 2012
5
yes it is
Sep 27th 2012
13
women: you don't have to talk to anyone you don't want to talk to.
Sep 27th 2012
6
so why can't dude cuss you the fuck out?
Sep 27th 2012
14
because they should be mature enough to keep it moving if
Sep 27th 2012
23
      so women don't have to be polite, but men do?
Sep 27th 2012
31
           im not encouraging women to blow up on a dude & spit in his face
Sep 27th 2012
49
           im not encouraging women to blow up on a dude & spit in his face
Sep 27th 2012
50
           so not getting it
Sep 28th 2012
581
but SOME of those dudes be crazy, yall remember that vid
Sep 27th 2012
15
i wish that were true
Sep 27th 2012
298
nah, you GON smile.
Sep 28th 2012
459
There's nothing wrong with being polite.
Sep 28th 2012
648
never.
Sep 27th 2012
8
No, I won't.
Sep 27th 2012
11
don't be out in the street looking for a meal.
Sep 27th 2012
17
      I mean, how could I *not* attempt a holler if you walked by me?
Sep 27th 2012
32
           by exhibiting self-control?
Sep 27th 2012
55
                It seems like you're more referring to harassment than hollering...
Sep 27th 2012
68
                I dont see a problem with that either
Sep 27th 2012
117
                I know I've felt put out bypeople telling me "good morning" before
Sep 28th 2012
583
                     how long have you been pushing the button Desmond?
Sep 28th 2012
614
                not initiating conversation with an attractive woman is a virtue?
Sep 27th 2012
104
                     by its rarity it would be
Sep 27th 2012
352
where should men approach women that they find attractive and would
Sep 27th 2012
16
there are more constructive social situations.
Sep 27th 2012
37
      lol wtf the world outside your front door is a social situation
Sep 27th 2012
      lol @ you not answering the question.
Sep 27th 2012
382
it dont get no more okplayery than this
Sep 27th 2012
18
...but hollering on a messageboard is perfectly fine...
Sep 27th 2012
19
this reply doesn't make half a piece of sense.
Sep 27th 2012
60
      if a woman can't handle a street holla without feeling
Sep 27th 2012
138
*pulls up milk crate*
Sep 27th 2012
20
"it's not my fault you're pretty!"
Sep 27th 2012
21
Cuz it's never worked right lmao
Sep 27th 2012
24
oppression can't exist without the permission/participation of the oppre...
Sep 27th 2012
58
      LMAO
Sep 27th 2012
113
oh yeah 150,000 years of evolution called for you
Sep 27th 2012
26
things change over 150,000 years. we're more than a primitive drive.
Sep 27th 2012
73
does this still apply???
Sep 27th 2012
27
no.
Sep 27th 2012
80
It's so easy to talk to a woman on the street though.
Sep 27th 2012
28
if they stop, then women would start complaining about why men
Sep 27th 2012
29
Basically confession wednesday
Sep 27th 2012
48
i understand evolution, but we're more than a primitive drive.
Sep 27th 2012
70
she just did
Sep 27th 2012
357
A closed mouth don't get fed n/m
Sep 27th 2012
30
there are more appropriate places to look for a bite.
Sep 27th 2012
84
      I'm sayin, where?
Sep 27th 2012
133
           lol, everytime this question is asked, it's ignored.
Sep 27th 2012
389
                Son. I don't know if this is a common feminine characterisitic
Sep 27th 2012
435
                Because, man, if you REALLY loved her you would understand her..
Sep 27th 2012
447
                lol
Sep 28th 2012
457
                Sounds pretty logical to me n/m
Sep 28th 2012
472
                Ok, so it's not just me then lol.
Sep 28th 2012
471
                     No, lol. I've been waiting for the answer to this.
Sep 28th 2012
658
so wait I see an attractive woman as I'm walking down the street
Sep 27th 2012
33
RE: so wait I see an attractive woman as I'm walking down the street
Sep 27th 2012
40
shhh! you making too much sense right now dude.
Sep 27th 2012
44
no.
Sep 27th 2012
87
      so what makes you walking down the street different from you
Sep 27th 2012
92
           Bars are places meant for social interaction.
Sep 28th 2012
469
this is the dumbest post lol...
Sep 27th 2012
34
i can't help but feel that you've missed the point here.
Sep 27th 2012
88
      you HAVE no point
Sep 27th 2012
147
           harassment is her point
Sep 27th 2012
170
                walking up to you and starting a convo is not
Sep 27th 2012
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                     hello.
Sep 27th 2012
211
                     if you arent walking up to the person next to me
Sep 27th 2012
269
                     I LOVE U
Sep 27th 2012
282
                     you are crazy as fuck, yo...
Sep 27th 2012
348
                          fuck your crazy ass too
Sep 27th 2012
370
                          you probably the last woman in here that would have this issue
Sep 27th 2012
377
                               LOL
Sep 27th 2012
379
                               Gotdamb lol
Sep 28th 2012
468
                                    what was it? purple mountains
Sep 28th 2012
477
                                         No habla batshyt
Sep 28th 2012
494
                                              ^^^^^ this nigga wilin...LOLOL
Sep 28th 2012
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                                              you babble it real well though
Sep 28th 2012
528
                                              http://i52.tinypic.com/5p4xoo.jpg
Sep 28th 2012
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                          ^^^^^^ lol......this reply was classic
Sep 27th 2012
391
                     i've gotten this plenty times
Sep 27th 2012
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                          they are some big titties though...
Sep 27th 2012
394
                               i would be lying
Sep 27th 2012
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                                    i like you too...
Sep 27th 2012
413
can we get a list of acceptable places to holla at women?
Sep 27th 2012
35
outside of the courtroom
Sep 27th 2012
47
NO LOGIN NO BALLS IN
Sep 27th 2012
59
NO FOLLOW NO SWALLOW
Sep 27th 2012
85
the let out.
Sep 27th 2012
74
grocery store/ home depot/ car wash/ coin-op/ vet office/ on the bus
Sep 27th 2012
76
Weddings, funeral, the emergency room...
Sep 27th 2012
230
      the EMERGENCY room??? abuse clinic?????
Sep 27th 2012
341
So should we follow them home, THEN holler?
Sep 27th 2012
36
please god dont. the worst thing a woman hate is being followed.
Sep 27th 2012
46
i chuckled. on some real shit though i got followed home at 12
Sep 27th 2012
90
ladies: stop dressing to get attention--
Sep 27th 2012
39
POAST
Sep 27th 2012
57
^^THIS^^
Sep 27th 2012
62
http://i54.tinypic.com/qq1rp1.jpg
Sep 27th 2012
111
lol now im glad i didnt go the Predator route with mine
Sep 27th 2012
167
      LOL...yo, you and me was inna zone on some...>><<
Sep 27th 2012
175
http://i25.tinypic.com/1551550.gif/
Sep 27th 2012
125
MENS RIGHTS MOVEMENT.
Sep 27th 2012
142
www.sptimes.com/2004/10/25/images/homepg/preacher450.jpg
Sep 27th 2012
174
When did u start posting so beige nygga
Sep 27th 2012
43
I'll just park this here:
Sep 27th 2012
45
i'm done with okplayer for today, ya'll have fun.
Sep 27th 2012
53
stop walkin around lookin all good-n-stuff...
Sep 27th 2012
51
I saw a dude do a wack hollar the other day...
Sep 27th 2012
52
yep lol i dont mind street hollas as long as theyre not disrespectful
Sep 27th 2012
64
      exactly
Sep 27th 2012
86
           ^ ^ ^This pretty-much covers it!
Sep 27th 2012
124
           I would stare
Sep 27th 2012
245
           unbearably uncomfortable
Sep 28th 2012
460
                I got light eyes so it
Sep 29th 2012
693
           THANK YOU!
Sep 27th 2012
392
its fine as long as they come correct and are respectful
Sep 27th 2012
56
tell em!(c)Biggie
Sep 27th 2012
77
i look at women on the street like i'm gonna rob them at gunpoint
Sep 27th 2012
61
that is the dumbest thing i think i've read on here all week
Sep 27th 2012
63
      the poast called for it
Sep 27th 2012
66
           it actually didn't, at all.
Sep 27th 2012
91
                *hollas at trace on the street, with my had in my hoodie like i got a ga...
Sep 27th 2012
96
                     ok
Sep 27th 2012
98
                          only on days when louisville plays pitt tho
Sep 27th 2012
108
                               stop
Sep 27th 2012
114
                                    yawn
Sep 27th 2012
116
                                    LMAO!!
Sep 27th 2012
179
The class element to this issue seems huge, to me.
Sep 27th 2012
65
i actually agree with this, u dont see many men in suits doing
Sep 27th 2012
      walk down wall street in a sun dress
Sep 28th 2012
624
the alternative is what? the internet* and mutual friends
Sep 27th 2012
67
The solution is clear: step aside and let a Live Nigga holler.
Sep 27th 2012
78
The solution is clear: step aside and let a Live Nigga holler.
Sep 27th 2012
79
this isn't up to you to decide.
Sep 27th 2012
95
why did you use the word 'holler'?
Sep 27th 2012
115
^^^^^^
Sep 27th 2012
155
By the time you have enough info to decide, the holler has already
Sep 27th 2012
119
for clarity: it isnt harassment if she's open to being approached
Sep 27th 2012
246
agreed.
Sep 27th 2012
107
it would be great if they did.
Sep 27th 2012
69
now would you trade all that.. to be ugly as fuck???
Sep 27th 2012
72
Yo, I have NO DAMN IDEA why I burst into laughter off this reply.
Sep 27th 2012
82
all what?
Sep 27th 2012
83
everything that makes you hollerable???
Sep 27th 2012
93
lol, there are some women ain't heard a street holler since the 90s
Sep 27th 2012
121
IKR, but THIS IS OKAYPLAYER where dreams come true.
Sep 27th 2012
152
This pretty funny if true.
Sep 27th 2012
158
AP you are officially funny. God damn i just broke.
Sep 27th 2012
442
is your paper being long...worth your life being shorter?
Sep 27th 2012
454
until this is something that men can experience,
Sep 27th 2012
97
      I think there are guys in this post that understand your personal
Sep 27th 2012
106
      it's part of living in a world populated w/ppl other than yourself.
Sep 27th 2012
120
      seriously
Sep 27th 2012
176
      when yall have to hunt for dick...holler at me
Sep 27th 2012
265
           LOL
Sep 27th 2012
353
           lmaoo this mad me really LOL
Sep 28th 2012
470
get the entire fuck out of here
Sep 27th 2012
75
niggas acting like Obama aint hit michelle with a "yo ma"
Sep 27th 2012
89
what?
Sep 27th 2012
110
smh
Sep 27th 2012
261
^ ^ ^A whole lotta Jewels right here!
Sep 27th 2012
143
i was walking home w/2 bags of groceries & this dude goes, 'can i
Sep 27th 2012
81
it can NEVER be about being polite or helpful
Sep 27th 2012
118
WILD HUNNERDS
Sep 27th 2012
100
This post got me type mad right now.
Sep 27th 2012
102
^
Sep 28th 2012
536
I love these topics
Sep 27th 2012
103
i can't clap to this.
Sep 27th 2012
105
the ratio of 'appropriate/polite' to rude, annoying, and harassing
Sep 27th 2012
123
stop being a goofy bitch and assume all of us do this all the time
Sep 27th 2012
126
she's putting a lil extra on it b/c she's venting.
Sep 27th 2012
134
damn Chuck. did she fuck you in the ass dog??
Sep 27th 2012
141
how did u even think to come out ur bird with this statement?
Sep 27th 2012
156
probably, but i'm tired of the horse shit, especially in this department
Sep 27th 2012
162
      well this approach will surely work
Sep 27th 2012
173
      #whiterage
Sep 27th 2012
177
      it went from not probably to definitely
Sep 27th 2012
184
      dont worry about apologizing or saying shit else to me
Sep 27th 2012
186
           *replies to this post*
Sep 27th 2012
213
           he tryna quit cigs. let's give him a pass for a few weeks
Sep 27th 2012
232
           in his defense (and I don't defend white boys)
Sep 27th 2012
417
go drink a hot tea, man.
Sep 27th 2012
161
yo did somebody hack your fucking account?
Sep 27th 2012
171
WOW REALLY?
Sep 27th 2012
349
oh, okay. you're just venting frustration.
Sep 27th 2012
127
so just walking down the street is an invitation to be spoken to
Sep 27th 2012
149
yes. yes, it is.
Sep 27th 2012
160
      LOL its definitely NOT an invitation, u could reasonably expect
Sep 27th 2012
187
      sure, guy.
Sep 27th 2012
199
      I agree.....especially here, in the south...we speak to EVERYbody
Sep 27th 2012
397
exactly.
Sep 27th 2012
150
let it be idris elba sayin some of it tho...
Sep 27th 2012
112
^ agreed.
Sep 27th 2012
122
yep.
Sep 27th 2012
128
I mean I've had women tell me to smile on the street.
Sep 27th 2012
129
when i'm having a depressive episode that sort of thing makes me
Sep 27th 2012
139
      Understandable.
Sep 27th 2012
178
RE: let it be idris elba sayin some of it tho...
Sep 27th 2012
132
what if a woman came up to you in the same scenario
Sep 27th 2012
146
it happens
Sep 27th 2012
294
RE: let it be idris elba sayin some of it tho...
Sep 27th 2012
151
damn woman, do you hate humans?
Sep 27th 2012
202
      ^ this is how it reads.
Sep 27th 2012
206
      in all fairness i'm the same way with social interactions
Sep 27th 2012
220
      not suprising.
Sep 27th 2012
226
           thank you
Sep 27th 2012
243
      i love people! i hate being approached on the street!
Sep 27th 2012
250
Da hell you comin' in here makin' sense fo'?
Sep 27th 2012
159
^^^^^^BASE
Sep 27th 2012
400
Location plays a big part, too
Sep 27th 2012
130
What I hate when a woman makes a post like this.
Sep 27th 2012
135
the problem w/this post is
Sep 27th 2012
145
i don't think it's unreasonable.
Sep 27th 2012
157
      To expect strangers
Sep 27th 2012
164
      i don't think it's unreasonable.
Sep 27th 2012
169
      ...but this IS what she's saying, homie:
Sep 27th 2012
165
      no, im saying don't approach women -on the street-
Sep 27th 2012
180
      k.
Sep 27th 2012
188
      i think this is it:
Sep 27th 2012
190
           it's more this IMO:
Sep 27th 2012
193
                the highlight was to compliment that exact part.
Sep 27th 2012
205
      And my problem with it is that it's being stated like it's some
Sep 27th 2012
181
      hello.
Sep 27th 2012
189
      i get that trace is lookin to make her way frum point A to point B...
Sep 27th 2012
183
      yeah.
Sep 27th 2012
191
      this is very true
Sep 27th 2012
198
           it's not a damned thing for u to get over...
Sep 27th 2012
223
      there's a difference between holler and approach.
Sep 27th 2012
185
           i asked why she used the word 'holler'.
Sep 27th 2012
196
                i didnt see that question, sorry
Sep 27th 2012
228
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^
Sep 27th 2012
241
                     good luck w/this.
Sep 27th 2012
249
                     forreal.
Sep 27th 2012
365
                     keep asserting urself and protecting urself, i dont see how any
Sep 27th 2012
255
      Always a list of "don'ts" and hardly a list of "dos" or "how tos"
Sep 27th 2012
197
^shit that only works on non-sistas^
Sep 27th 2012
168
http://boubize.blogspot.com/2011/08/ninja-glimpse.html
Sep 27th 2012
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SO LISTEN!
Sep 27th 2012
136
AYE BABY! LEMME SHOW U WHAT I'D DO TO THOSE HIPS!
Sep 27th 2012
137
i wish all men could be women for one week
Sep 27th 2012
144
that would suck
Sep 27th 2012
166
lol i mean i'd like for us to switch
Sep 27th 2012
172
      You'd deal with the uncountable #s of rejections too?
Sep 27th 2012
259
      nigga please
Sep 27th 2012
425
      I feel this reply.
Sep 28th 2012
675
      good luck hunting for pussy
Sep 27th 2012
278
           right?
Sep 27th 2012
395
           lol like its that hard for men to get laid
Sep 27th 2012
426
                it's not hard because we have to practice
Sep 28th 2012
482
or just go to a gay bar...
Sep 27th 2012
236
I've been to a lesbian club
Sep 27th 2012
427
Me too.
Sep 27th 2012
396
RE: stop hollering at women on the street.
Sep 27th 2012
148
No.
Sep 27th 2012
154
stop hollering =/= stop speaking.
Sep 27th 2012
182
you should associate with a higher class of humanity
Sep 27th 2012
192
lol but i dont have to like them
Sep 27th 2012
314
      i do, maybe thats defeatist on my part but i aint changing anyone
Sep 27th 2012
354
interesting post
Sep 27th 2012
194
that sounds pretty anti-social to me.
Sep 27th 2012
204
because dudes are doing this to just be social?
Sep 27th 2012
207
      good luck w/this, player.
Sep 27th 2012
208
      smh
Sep 27th 2012
216
           . . .
Sep 27th 2012
222
      LOL give the writers credit, they stuck with their original vision for u
Sep 27th 2012
215
      this cant be for real...like....at all...lol...a grownup cant walk past
Sep 27th 2012
251
      so you talk to random men regularly?
Sep 27th 2012
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           some men do...but that still doens't matter
Sep 27th 2012
325
           oh it does and not regularly enough
Sep 27th 2012
363
           Aye...u catch that game ...crazy right
Sep 27th 2012
364
           Right...i guess Marvin's "Whas Happenin Brutha" was an
Sep 27th 2012
406
           men are the most talkingest to strangers ass ppl around
Sep 27th 2012
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           they really are
Sep 27th 2012
422
                wow
Sep 28th 2012
502
           lol don't ever go to the south
Sep 27th 2012
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                i have family in the south
Sep 27th 2012
412
      what's more social than sex?
Sep 27th 2012
288
           BRAIN ASPLOSION!!!!
Sep 27th 2012
319
           you are
Sep 27th 2012
326
                i really do actually hate you, lol
Sep 27th 2012
362
                     blame yourself
Sep 27th 2012
423
                          you have yet to counter anything i'm saying with reason though
Sep 28th 2012
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                               those are excuses not reasons
Sep 28th 2012
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                                    i'm not excusing ignorant behavior though
Sep 28th 2012
483
                                         arent you?
Sep 28th 2012
533
                                              this is seriously my last time going back and forth with you here
Sep 28th 2012
565
lol the earth is everyone's to share
Sep 27th 2012
209
^ that.
Sep 27th 2012
214
these men arent even talking to EACH OTHER
Sep 27th 2012
219
PREACH!!! lol why isnt it common that men are saying SMILE
Sep 27th 2012
229
y'all are speaking way too broadly
Sep 27th 2012
234
we're disconnecting here : unwelcomed advances
Sep 27th 2012
268
      k.
Sep 27th 2012
272
           i started to reply to u like that but decided to sure u bit more
Sep 27th 2012
308
                great.
Sep 27th 2012
311
men acknowledge other men in public ALL THE TIME
Sep 27th 2012
320
      when's the last time u felt phsically threatened cuz u didnt respond?
Sep 28th 2012
612
      do u say "smile" to other men?
Sep 28th 2012
664
           no, but i don't say that to ANYONE i don't know
Sep 29th 2012
690
then i kindly direct you to #192
Sep 27th 2012
231
      is being dense a choice?
Sep 27th 2012
242
           then its time to decide what you mean
Sep 27th 2012
252
                why dont men say hello and SMILE(?) to other men?
Sep 27th 2012
271
                we. do.
Sep 27th 2012
280
                o dear God, i asked do men ask other men to SMILE?
Sep 27th 2012
                     okay.
Sep 27th 2012
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                          well different opinions then, i find that very annoying
Sep 27th 2012
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                          awesome.
Sep 27th 2012
323
                               lastword
Sep 27th 2012
333
                                    <--- winner.
Sep 27th 2012
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                                         no
Sep 27th 2012
385
                          you should have mace'd those Sirens
Sep 27th 2012
331
                               LOL
Sep 27th 2012
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                get em sir
Sep 27th 2012
284
                lol i do...ive got top-notch friend game actually
Sep 27th 2012
289
                     well if ur telling other men to smile u prolly been called a fag more
Sep 27th 2012
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                          i would never say that to a man or woman i didnt know
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                               ok just cause a lady catches ur eye doesnt give u the right
Sep 27th 2012
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                                    but it does and that IS the point
Sep 27th 2012
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                                         lol bull, i guess there is an implied persmission to be robbed or
Sep 27th 2012
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                                              and how is any of that comparable to "hi im chris"?
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                                              feminist rage reasoning skills
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                                              Lmao holy shyt
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                i mean what i say
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                     ^^^^
Sep 27th 2012
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                     clear signals of intentional isolation fall under purview of #209
Sep 27th 2012
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                          that convoluted #209 you mean?
Sep 27th 2012
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                               hey i was right lol...recognizing signals is still recognizing signals
Sep 27th 2012
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                                    nah my pussy isn't communal
Sep 27th 2012
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                                         215
Sep 27th 2012
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RE: lol the earth is everyone's to share
Sep 27th 2012
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^^^
Sep 27th 2012
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please don't agree with that idiot.
Sep 27th 2012
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      says the moron
Sep 27th 2012
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are u speaking of literal speaking or the holler?
Sep 27th 2012
237
i live in NY
Sep 27th 2012
279
      maybe u look safe...
Sep 27th 2012
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           i do
Sep 27th 2012
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HOW DARE YOU BE ATTRACTIVE?
Sep 28th 2012
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This post should just read I'm anti-social and not comfortable being
Sep 27th 2012
195
says the antisocial ass
Sep 27th 2012
201
Purple mountains
Sep 27th 2012
212
#18
Sep 27th 2012
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Word. I hit all chicks w/ the howsitgoin' head nod at this point..
Sep 27th 2012
203
Ok, I have some issues with this.
Sep 27th 2012
224
*Looks Around*
Sep 27th 2012
225
*releases a lone tear which gently cascades down my left cheek*
Sep 27th 2012
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lol...that was funny
Sep 27th 2012
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LOL!
Sep 27th 2012
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hehe
Sep 27th 2012
316
Jerome at work
Sep 27th 2012
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oh shit
Sep 28th 2012
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My best relationships have started that way
Sep 27th 2012
239
so... as soon as you enter the building, coffee shop or subway..
Sep 27th 2012
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oh also--
Sep 27th 2012
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i plan on killing myself when men dont look at me anymore.
Sep 27th 2012
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pardon my laziness.iont wanna read this clusterfuck, but i got a questio...
Sep 27th 2012
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never on the street, w/o regard for politeness.
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weird.
Sep 27th 2012
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they frustrated.
Sep 27th 2012
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      iono. i even appreciated a lil brazilian man calling me huge
Sep 27th 2012
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that's not what *i* said
Sep 27th 2012
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      267. i personally dont want to be approached on the street, period.
Sep 27th 2012
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           yeah i saw that, but nayaa was asking the ladies (plural)
Sep 27th 2012
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                uh huh.
Sep 27th 2012
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u can "hey beautiful" me to the grave...
Sep 27th 2012
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theyre saying a man shouldnt talk to a woman--
Sep 27th 2012
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i personally dont want to be approached on the street, period.
Sep 27th 2012
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iont think there's a right or wrong answer
Sep 27th 2012
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The key word is "she"
Sep 27th 2012
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hows okp the worst--
Sep 27th 2012
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what fucking streets are you walking down?
Sep 27th 2012
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      oh i have horror stories
Sep 27th 2012
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i don't like being approached on the street at all
Sep 27th 2012
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      what.the.hell.else do they have to go off of?
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           lol
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What about at a church?
Sep 27th 2012
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ON THE STREET, GUYS. ON THE STREET.
Sep 27th 2012
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but you are applying your preference as if every woman
Sep 27th 2012
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i never claimed to be speaking for all women
Sep 27th 2012
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      why women when you are only one woman?
Sep 27th 2012
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      if men stop street hollas then all women are impacted.
Sep 27th 2012
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      im not speaking for all women in that
Sep 27th 2012
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           okay.
Sep 27th 2012
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      RE: why women when you are only one woman?
Sep 27th 2012
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      I hate it too so now we're a plural. i especially hate it in
Sep 28th 2012
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that doesn't change my stance whatsoever.
Sep 27th 2012
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no prob! i wasnt trying to change your mind, just stressing that
Sep 27th 2012
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important to you...
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cool.
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LOL
Sep 27th 2012
DONT TALK TO ME AT THE OFFICE--
Sep 27th 2012
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      many of these ppl ARE anti-social at the office, btw.
Sep 27th 2012
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      omg im finna hitdog
Sep 27th 2012
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      sure.
Sep 27th 2012
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      yeah. can we make that post tomorrow?
Sep 27th 2012
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      it's been made numerous times and it's always popular.
Sep 27th 2012
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      LOL...tooooooo funny and true
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      boundaries folks
Sep 27th 2012
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      lmao what a horrible comparison
Sep 27th 2012
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http://boubize.blogspot.com/2011/08/ninja-glimpse.html
Sep 27th 2012
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fellas, you're walking down the street. a woman avoids making eye contac...
Sep 27th 2012
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nghs should be used to everybody they pass avoiding eye contact
Sep 27th 2012
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I can't stand when women do this^^^^
Sep 27th 2012
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RE: fellas, you're walking down the street. a woman avoids making eye co...
Sep 27th 2012
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when black women give me the bigscaryblackguy treatment
Sep 27th 2012
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I agree with you if you literally mean the street... to do so one..
Sep 27th 2012
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i read a post somewhere about exactly that
Sep 27th 2012
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Yeah I get it, but there aren't many opportunities for people...
Sep 27th 2012
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i get that
Sep 27th 2012
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      agree
Sep 27th 2012
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but you forgot the part where she did talk to a guy
Sep 27th 2012
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yeah, i literally meant on the street.
Sep 27th 2012
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I agree with you. I have approached a woman on a bus stop..
Sep 27th 2012
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its more rude
Sep 27th 2012
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you can say that about any scenario though... c'mon.
Sep 27th 2012
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      and its rude
Sep 27th 2012
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           not every woman that goes to a party wants to be approached..
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                the difference is
Sep 27th 2012
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                     this makes no sense in relation to his response
Sep 28th 2012
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                          thank you. I didn't even know how to respond to that.
Sep 28th 2012
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                          actually it does
Sep 28th 2012
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If I'm preoccupied it's not only unwelcome, but extremely rude!
Sep 28th 2012
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we're not being honest now...
Sep 28th 2012
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I see this as being on the subway
Sep 28th 2012
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      and while you feel that way..
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           You're arguing a point that I never made
Sep 28th 2012
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                My point is that people don't know how you really feel..
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                     Cheers to the nice guys
Sep 28th 2012
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                          Fine, but what you seem to be avoiding is that the point of...
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                               Nah
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*applauds until my hand go numb*
Sep 27th 2012
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Misanthropy FTW
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hello.
Sep 27th 2012
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not wanting to be approached in a specific situation = misanthropy?!
Sep 27th 2012
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      not all men talking to you in the street want anything more than
Sep 27th 2012
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           ^^^^^^^
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           in some cases there should be an inequality in favor of the oppressed
Sep 27th 2012
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           here's where that goes off the rails: not every woman - hell most
Sep 27th 2012
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           RE: not all men talking to you in the street want anything more than
Sep 28th 2012
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                you ain't never struck up a conversation with somebody just cuz?
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                     Not completely out of the blue, no.
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got damn this blew up.
Sep 27th 2012
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I was just thinkin this
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      perfect ingredients tho
Sep 27th 2012
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           and SoWhat being in top form today
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that explains the CLOSED sign on that box.
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you'll miss it when it doesnt happen anymore
Sep 27th 2012
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this is what I want them to respond to
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i don't miss it AT ALL
Sep 27th 2012
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WRONG
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This is LITERALLY
Sep 27th 2012
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It's really just the shotgun method, which is a waste of time
Sep 27th 2012
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such a sad post
Sep 27th 2012
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^^^^
Sep 27th 2012
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man, no shit.
Sep 27th 2012
444
WAUUUW...this post is nuts!! There's NOTHING wrong with a
Sep 27th 2012
404
The OP post is like the Romney campaign
Sep 27th 2012
407
This post is outstanding... I only disagree with the generaliztion
Sep 27th 2012
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.
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RE: This post is outstanding... I only disagree with the generaliztion
Sep 27th 2012
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^^ all this. plus chicks Initiate with me so.... n/m
Sep 28th 2012
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Yet y'all wonder why white women keep win---nvm...
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419
Harlow project is seeking particpants to discuss street harassment
Sep 27th 2012
430
Stop walking so far outside the damn kitchen
Sep 27th 2012
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lmao
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lol
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WHAT YOU DESCRIBING IS HOLLA'ING AT A CHICK ON THE TRAIN
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train hollas are not improper foh
Sep 27th 2012
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      LOL!!!! this nigga said nelson muntz!
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lol
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btw: why ima die alone pt.2.
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bathicallyyyyyyyy!
Sep 28th 2012
465
Shit. I holla in public like a G. Professional niggas always win
Sep 27th 2012
443
This is a tricky one...
Sep 27th 2012
445
I agree with Trace.
Sep 27th 2012
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*cashes out*
Sep 27th 2012
448
lfresh hates men.
Sep 27th 2012
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i would have to consider you a man to hate you though
Sep 28th 2012
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      I wish you happiness ma'am.
Sep 28th 2012
           #569
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trace doing flora numbers
Sep 27th 2012
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I really didn't expect this post to blow up like this.
Sep 27th 2012
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i keep looking at the reply number increasing like O_o
Sep 28th 2012
643
Me and SoWhat are laughing at you breeders (he's the bottom, though)
Sep 27th 2012
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I took pics of some of them in Philly
Sep 28th 2012
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I was really hoping you meant you photographed street hollers.
Sep 28th 2012
462
those are AWESOME tlynn
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SMH--
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clearly.
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      omg
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*likes*
Sep 28th 2012
510
Folks are sharing these around Tumblr like crazy
Sep 28th 2012
634
fells stop paying attention to these old bitter damaged
Sep 28th 2012
464
RE: stop hollering at women on the street.
Sep 28th 2012
467
The male privilege voiced in this post is ASTOUNDING n/m
Sep 28th 2012
485
^
Sep 28th 2012
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the female double standards--
Sep 28th 2012
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it has to be boredom, fantasizing and stunting rolled together
Sep 28th 2012
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they just don't get it, they are saying no just put up with it
Sep 28th 2012
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*makes an appearance*
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oh i'd annoy the sh*t outta you--
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*looks across the street*
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      I like it!
Sep 28th 2012
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ARCHIVE
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AGREED......the levels in here...on every limb is outstanding
Sep 28th 2012
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I think you living in KY has something to do with this.
Sep 28th 2012
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5 hunna.
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What about at a block party, Trace? WHAT DO WE DO?
Sep 28th 2012
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What about a street fair?
Sep 28th 2012
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      Say we are at a parade?
Sep 28th 2012
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           What if we find ourselves in Bunol for Tomatina?
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                Can we mingle at Mardi Gras?
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                     Can we raconteur on a river walk?
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                          What do you do at 4th Street Live?
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                               THIS IS ALL WRONG, WRONG YOU MONSTER!!
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679
this post is telling of lots of things.
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there is an ocean between all of that and what you are extolling
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agreed.
Sep 28th 2012
519
I think the point is that
Sep 28th 2012
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      you're right. At the same time, I think the post would have gone..
Sep 28th 2012
527
      i can accept this.
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      yup.
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      hello.
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men generally understand that harrassment exists.
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pretty much
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say word--
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hello.
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and that outside this site...women could care less lol...u know how
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LOL...why fam gotta be a subset though?? lol..smh
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even me fam!
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545
knowing something exists vs knowing what it's like.
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      *i* know what it's like.
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      and not everyone who experiences it would mind if it
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           Jesus the fuck Christ.
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      let's just leave it at this:
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the essence of the misunderstanding--
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But who decides what harassment is?
Sep 28th 2012
532
      sucks don't it?
Sep 28th 2012
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      oh harrassment is in the eye of the beholder--
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street harassment is awful and should end.
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in my opinion, it absolutely does.
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      while i understand your frustration, i completely disagree w/you.
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           i know it won't happen, too.
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                good luck w/that.
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                     hey, thanks!
Sep 28th 2012
569
                          *thumbs up*
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                          lol i know his concern and attitude is so touching in this post
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oh it's a website for every insecurity and dysfunction in the world
Sep 28th 2012
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*sees you drop your wallet on the street with a bit of cash spilling out...
Sep 28th 2012
549
They're either willfully ignorant or posturing.
Sep 28th 2012
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Y'ALL muthafuckas... *facepalm*
Sep 28th 2012
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the issue is respect
Sep 28th 2012
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i got them moooOOOOOOOooOoOOOOOOooves like Jagger
Sep 28th 2012
525
FOH FAM!
Sep 28th 2012
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this post is too deep so i aint read SHIT but the OP, anyways
Sep 28th 2012
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lol
Sep 28th 2012
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This thread is very sad and discouraging
Sep 28th 2012
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did y'all forget the Black Woman Walking mini-doc?
Sep 28th 2012
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This isnt directed @ u personally
Sep 28th 2012
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fellas, this post is information: use it...
Sep 28th 2012
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oontz.
Sep 28th 2012
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it kinda reminds me of one morning when I was on the train...
Sep 28th 2012
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That's happened to me on far too many occasions.
Sep 28th 2012
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bull and sh*t--
Sep 28th 2012
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It isn't good information though
Sep 28th 2012
579
It's too much like right; the menfolk will never "get" it.
Sep 28th 2012
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how about--
Sep 28th 2012
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I feel you but
Sep 28th 2012
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i feel tired like when i tried to explain white privilege to white folk ...
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      RE: i feel tired like when i tried to explain white privilege to white f...
Sep 28th 2012
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imma teach my daughter to karate chop niggas in the windpipe
Sep 28th 2012
568
tell your daughters/cousins/aunts/friends/etc to stop....
Sep 28th 2012
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So if you drop your wallet with cash spillin out then don't holla back?
Sep 28th 2012
578
People are talking about it's ok if he's cute
Sep 28th 2012
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it's also a privilege to not be expected to approach men.
Sep 28th 2012
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      *slow applause*
Sep 28th 2012
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      wait so u wouldnt try to stop those things u dont like?
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      no I wouldn't try to stop it, because I don't know what it.....
Sep 28th 2012
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      i wonder if the statute provides housing for the homeless
Sep 28th 2012
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      k
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      LOL. good luck w/this, ATL:
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           :-) thanks hun!
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           no shit, the same dudes have been at northside & 10th BP for yrs
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      control people?
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           my point is that people are going to people.
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623
                oh ok
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                that's because it IS what it is.
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                     Um, again, you're arguing a point I never made.
Sep 28th 2012
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                          I was referring to you saying that I'm implying you should just..
Sep 28th 2012
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                               and by the way, your avi is pretty. so there. *pokes tongue out*
Sep 28th 2012
655
                shut the fuck up.
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Some of yall think you're "hollering" when you're not
Sep 28th 2012
590
so wait:
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ain't it?
Sep 28th 2012
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did you read what she wrote?
Sep 28th 2012
601
EVERYONE AIN'T YOU!! A lot of women appreciate it!!
Sep 28th 2012
603
smh. you have no perspective.
Sep 28th 2012
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if you don't believe that it's okay to be nice, I'm sorry.
Sep 28th 2012
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sigh. i didn't say any of that.
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619
      this is what you said:
Sep 28th 2012
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           right, and my point is that even though the woman responded
Sep 28th 2012
628
                so what is the conclusion??
Sep 28th 2012
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lol
Sep 28th 2012
620
How do we know they appreciate it, though?
Sep 28th 2012
625
why u typing in all caps?
Sep 28th 2012
665
      moment of frustration.
Sep 28th 2012
672
Women want to be left alone in public places.
Sep 28th 2012
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RE: so wait:
Sep 28th 2012
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      Yeah I get what you're saying. And it's very unfortunate.
Sep 28th 2012
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the very first hurt that i remember as a child was watching/hearing men
Sep 28th 2012
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yeesh.
Sep 28th 2012
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i don't think anybody here is saying rude fuckery don't happen
Sep 28th 2012
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      Not even the OP said that all public places were out of bounds
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      you may not agree, but can you understand why a woman
Sep 28th 2012
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           yes. I completely understand it.. TOTALLY
Sep 28th 2012
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                there's church here but it'll get buried
Sep 28th 2012
651
I put up a Men Can Stop Rape Street Harassment Link....
Sep 28th 2012
610
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7zsG3XFUd8
Sep 28th 2012
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Just holla like this Stingray did *link*.
Sep 28th 2012
626
1988 - 2000 Crenshaw Blvd is laughin at yo ass
Sep 28th 2012
629
you have ANY idea how many *survey hollas* u just inspired?!?
Sep 28th 2012
630
SON. DONT SPOIL THE SURPRISE
Sep 28th 2012
657
I love how this post has boiled down to...
Sep 28th 2012
631
smh
Sep 28th 2012
636
When you point out people's privilege they get real defensive
Sep 28th 2012
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lol
Sep 28th 2012
649
just... damn shut up...
Sep 28th 2012
650
LMAO yes
Sep 28th 2012
666
      no.
Sep 29th 2012
681
i know no one is going to see this but...
Sep 28th 2012
637
almost 700 replies and no "I SWEAR IMMA MARRY A OKFEE"
Sep 28th 2012
641
can't marry em if you can't even talk to them.
Oct 01st 2012
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      lmao
Oct 03rd 2012
710
I SAY AGAIN:.......
Sep 28th 2012
645
lol why can't y'all just let these ladies emote?
Sep 28th 2012
652
if men would like for more women to be receptive to street hollers
Sep 28th 2012
654
I don't know very many real life events that ended with:
Sep 28th 2012
659
AND AT THE SAME TIME:
Sep 28th 2012
668
^^again, where r the acceptable places to holla^^
Sep 28th 2012
656
I highly doubt that you'll get an answer...
Sep 28th 2012
660
heres a few that ive found work great
Sep 28th 2012
662
Funny because I know plenty women who complain about these
Oct 01st 2012
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trace said in one of the replies in this post that clubs, lounges
Sep 28th 2012
667
      How am I supposed to know if she's walking to the store?
Sep 28th 2012
669
           well if you can't read her mind
Sep 28th 2012
670
                lmao. Its the lonely chicks makin excuses for not bein boo'd up
Sep 28th 2012
673
                LMAOOOOO
Oct 03rd 2012
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If you doin your numbers, don't listen to none of this shit in here.
Sep 28th 2012
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just dont holla at me at the gas station tho
Sep 28th 2012
663
DO NOT APPROACH ME ABOUT MY WHITE SHOES
Sep 28th 2012
671
BUT IT'S AFTER LABOR DAY!! DAMN RITE I'MMA SAY SOMETHIN!!!
Sep 29th 2012
678
I personally would rather K.I.M.
Sep 29th 2012
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There are a lot of POVs on this but it aint complicated.
Sep 29th 2012
682
so it's either they want to be left alone or objectified...lol
Sep 29th 2012
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Either you're trolling or you must not read very well.
Sep 29th 2012
685
      OK CARL!
Sep 29th 2012
687
^ This
Sep 30th 2012
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"there are some women that want to be regarded as objects"
Oct 01st 2012
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Glad I live in a city where people are friendly and actually like each o...
Sep 29th 2012
683
But then they'd have a problem with this shit! Wheres the chivalry!!
Sep 29th 2012
688
I don't get why str8 men can't take "no" or no response for an answer
Sep 29th 2012
689
Because there's a rap stripper club video playing in their heads
Sep 29th 2012
691
Rootie Tootie Fresh And Fruity even made an appearance
Oct 01st 2012
699
all the dudes in the post not getting TRace's point
Sep 29th 2012
692
Do women think the assholes in the street
Sep 29th 2012
695
      THANK YOU!
Oct 01st 2012
698
I may catch flak for this, but as I guy, I somewhat understand
Sep 29th 2012
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niggas went from 0 to victim blaming/deal with it quick as fuck.
Oct 01st 2012
702
you post like you like niggas.
Oct 01st 2012
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      lol
Oct 01st 2012
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      I don't talk to niggas that write their name on the orange juice, kid.
Oct 01st 2012
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ironically this discussion came up with my wife last night
Oct 01st 2012
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i prayed this post would live to see another week.
Oct 01st 2012
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trace, we don't stand a chance...
Oct 01st 2012
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1. "RE: stop hollering at women on the street."
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2. "all seriousness. What if you approuch a woman correctly."
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Is that still a no go?



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I just can't believe, all the things people say. Controversy-Prince

  

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10. "there's no correct way to approach a woman on the street."
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22. "that sucks."
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41. "I'm starting to believe this.. cause I try my best to be open to whateve..."
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comes my way

but I can't.
I'm trying my best to imagine how a street holla can be okay but unless I'm standing still on the street (maybe waiting for the bus or the light to change) there really ain't a way I don't think

  

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153. "You notice him. He notices you noticing him. Yall lock eyes."
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You can see he's coming over. You start slowing down. He opens his mouth and starts talking. He's got your number 5 or 6 minutes later.

Happens everyday.

But the key ingredient is your interest at some point.

If route not interested, its unwelcome.

If you're interested, its a great story to tell at the wedding reception.

  

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94. "Not true"
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Valid street hollas DO EXIST.

There are tactful street hollas. I have experienced them.

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140. "Are others in agreeance?"
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'cause that's how it certainly feels.
Goes along w/ what we all talked about over the years.
Women want to be left alone in public places.

  

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3. "i support this post, forreal"
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prototype

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believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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4. "Unless you think hes cute in which case Holla away"
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Until women start making the 1st move consistently, it's the mans perogative on when the Holla goes down

Sorry Charlie


do or die

  

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9. "approaching a woman on the street is unattractive, no matter "
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what the approacher looks like.

it's invasive and uncomfortable and everyone needs to stop it.
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42. "No matter what he looks like? Like no discussion at all? nm"
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99. "dont buy that, at any price"
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476. "... TO YOU"
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Not all men holler the same and most definitely not all women react the same. You're assuming your personal tastes are shared by everyone with the same junk as you... they're almost certainly not.

I couldn't do the street holler because I haven't got the fucking guts, frankly, but I kind of respect those that can do it in a vaguely classy way. Obviously the shout from across the street is generally awful, but I've seen the conversation at the bus-stop, and the "You dropped something.." work amazingly in the past.

  

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12. "ugh, blame the victim"
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patriarchy at its worst

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25. "Now just the simple act of hollering victimizes women"
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Got it


do or die

  

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38. "man, shut yo gay ass up..."
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†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††
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54. "man, I be trying, but...I'm glad you said something."
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"Give a woman the moon, bitch will want another moon to go with it"

(C) My Nigga Randall

  

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71. "naw, clown ass nigga"
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prototype

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260. "forgive me for laughing at this..out loud...at work. please+thanks"
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---
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373. "Your avi is being used from a malware site. Please change it."
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Anyone using Chrome gets red screen'd because of you.
Upload that image to a(n image) site that hasn't been hacked or used by douchebags.
Thanks.

  

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437. "I've had this avi for months. I aint changing nothin til the O's season ..."
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over.

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438. "You don't have to change it, just upload that image to another domain."
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tinypic, photobucket, imageshack, etc. and update that URL in your profile.

That image is currently hosted from a site that's flagged as malware.
Anyone using Chrome get a warning thrown at us anytime you post in a thread due to that image.

You don't have control over that site, but you *do* have control over where you can point that image to.

  

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473. "Lol no doubt!"
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That's a true fan

Instagram: @von_clay

  

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324. "Fix your sig fuck ass!!"
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LOL tho

but FIX YOUR FUCKING SIG!!

  

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376. "It's daryloneal avatar."
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Warning: Something's Not Right Here!
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Google has found malicious software may be installed onto your computer if you proceed. If you've visited this site in the past or you trust this site, it's possible that it has just recently been compromised by a hacker. You should not proceed, and perhaps try again tomorrow or go somewhere else.
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453. "Thats not what im talkig about. Im talking about assholes that dont sepe..."
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their sig's so that they don't look like part of their post. So you end up clinking their sig everytime you read their posts.

  

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428. "lmao"
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439. "Lmfao. Simple yet effective. "
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458. "LMAO"
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586. "hardeeharhar mofos. gay>>>stuck in ur sad rape culture world"
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prototype

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101. "i hate when okp latches onto a buzzword as evidence of enlightenment"
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the one that still gets me is groupthink, but patriachy is rapidly climbing the charts

  

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109. "niggas read the back of one bell hooks book and BOOM."
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131. "uh i experience the affects fo patriarchial bullshit in my own "
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life so please fuck off, u kno not what u speak

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163. "that is simultaneously entirely possible, unfortunate, and irrelevant"
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doesnt change the fact that big words spread around okp and suddenly become the explanation for things

  

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227. "k"
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short enuff word for u

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238. "lol that was all this ridiculous post deserved in the first place"
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451. "well said"
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5. "I just found out that this is something that only developed in"
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the last 30 years, or so.

To let my mother tell it, none of this was going on in the 60s and 70s.

She always suggests that I drop lines on girls in the street. I give her the what the hell are you talking about look and basically say "don't you know I'm liable to get stabbed and/or posted on Hollaback.com if I look at the wrong girl for second too long?"

I envy YT when it comes to this. Holler For Sport isn't such a terrible cancer on gender relations with them like it is with us.

  

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13. "yes it is"
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>I envy YT when it comes to this. Holler For Sport isn't such
>a terrible cancer on gender relations with them like it is
>with us.

they need to keep they mouths shut too
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6. "women: you don't have to talk to anyone you don't want to talk to."
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you don't owe anything to anyone.

you don't have to be polite.

you don't have to smile.

you're a grown ass woman. don't let men on the street make your decisions for you.

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14. "so why can't dude cuss you the fuck out?"
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"Give a woman the moon, bitch will want another moon to go with it"

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23. "because they should be mature enough to keep it moving if"
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someone doesn't want to speak?

i deserve to be left alone when i want to be left alone.
i don't deserve to be verbally assaulted for exercising that right.
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31. "so women don't have to be polite, but men do?"
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treating a motherfucker like they a homeless person asking for change is a good way to get blowed on. I wouldn't do it but, it should be some common respect on both sides.

"Give a woman the moon, bitch will want another moon to go with it"

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49. "im not encouraging women to blow up on a dude & spit in his face"
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i'm not encouraging women to blow up on a dude and spit in his face when he approaches her.
a lot of women will engage in unwanted conversation with a man just to be polite--we don't have to do that.
'i'm not interested' isn't rude.
me not trotting over to you like a dog after you've called out to me isn't rude.

leaving a woman alone when she expresses her disinterest isn't being polite, it's doing what you should have done in the first place.

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50. "im not encouraging women to blow up on a dude & spit in his face"
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i'm not encouraging women to blow up on a dude and spit in his face when he approaches her.
a lot of women will engage in unwanted conversation with a man just to be polite--we don't have to do that.
'i'm not interested' isn't rude.
me not trotting over to you like a dog after you've called out to me isn't rude.

leaving a woman alone when she expresses her disinterest isn't being polite, it's doing what you should have done in the first place.

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581. "so not getting it"
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smh

  

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15. "but SOME of those dudes be crazy, yall remember that vid"
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posted on here where these dudes were hollaring at this girl and she polited declined and one punched her so hard in the back that she went into the sidewalk face first, just fucked up

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298. "i wish that were true"
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A guy came after me w/ his fist balled after i ignored his "compliment"

So basically if a man gives me a respectful greeting "hello, good moening, etc". I'll respond in kind.

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459. "nah, you GON smile."
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648. "There's nothing wrong with being polite."
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They're a way to do everything.
Including a way to tell a man you aint interested. Politely and with respect, too.

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8. "never."
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11. "No, I won't."
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I was taught to go after what you want. I'd rather live with the negative consequences than to live with regrets.

I'm respectful as possible, but I'm still gonna *ask* so long that I'm single and unmarried.

A closed mouth doesn't get fed.

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17. "don't be out in the street looking for a meal."
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it's a sidewalk, not a rotating buffet.

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32. "I mean, how could I *not* attempt a holler if you walked by me?"
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I'd be chopping it up with friends later, talking about "I saw this ~fine~ woman earlier on xyz street..."

The *first* thing they'd ask me is: "did you get her number?"


lol, even my mom would probably side-eye me if I didn't at least try.

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55. "by exhibiting self-control?"
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68. "It seems like you're more referring to harassment than hollering..."
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I do agree that harassment is disgusting. Personally, I hate (to see) that shit myself.

Hollering (at least how I do it) is a simple "hello" or "good morning", usually followed by an attempt to strike up a conversation. Simple as that. That basic cordiality. I don't see a problem with that.

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117. "I dont see a problem with that either"
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A good morning or whatever, followed by some conversation.
If a chick giving you the short answers or head nods...
It aint for you.
Chuck the dueces.

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583. "I know I've felt put out bypeople telling me "good morning" before"
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It's hard to put into words, even for me. But sometimes it's the manner in which it's done. Tone. Or it's completely out of sync with what *I'm* putting out there. Like, I could clearly be giving "don't want to be bothered" vibes (no eye contact, stank face, listening to music, reading, etc) and your salutation is just unwelcome. How presumptuous to think that just because you mean well, the recipient wants to RECEIVE that from you.

  

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614. "how long have you been pushing the button Desmond?"
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104. "not initiating conversation with an attractive woman is a virtue?"
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lol

  

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352. "by its rarity it would be"
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>lol



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or they can be common
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16. "where should men approach women that they find attractive and would"
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like to get to know better respectfully
unless you're just takin' the piss with this post
i'd like to know your thoughts

life always offers you a 2nd chance...it's called tomorrow. use it wisely

  

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37. "there are more constructive social situations."
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a public street isn't the only place and situation men have to meet women. it does not have to happen there.

in public conditions support an organic conversation between the two of you, tread lightly.
if you're not sure that your'e in such a social situation, don't do it.

it doesn't take a genius to figure out that if a women ignores you, if she's actively avoiding eye contact, if she doesn't stop when you call her, she's not interested.
and women are so conditioned to be complacent in these situations that often, just because she's being tolerant, it doesn't mean that she's interested.
don't chance it.

if you're convinced you just saw the future mother of your children walking to a bus stop, let god hook that up for yall.
leave it to fate & leave her alone.
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"lol wtf the world outside your front door is a social situation "


  

          

>if you're not sure that your'e in such a social situation, don't do it.

  

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382. "lol @ you not answering the question."
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I'll ask again:

What are the appropriate setting to holla @ a woman?

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18. "it dont get no more okplayery than this"
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19. "...but hollering on a messageboard is perfectly fine... "
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FOH





Goofy ass logic fail


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60. "this reply doesn't make half a piece of sense."
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what does someone's socially awkward ass online activity have to do with approaching women outside on the street in the real world?
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138. "if a woman can't handle a street holla without feeling"
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Some kinda way, then who is really the socially awkward one?


Nigga can't say where's your man or smile...


But TITS or GTFO or a/s/l will get you in the door


Half the chicks online titties out ass out bra and panties Skype sexin and all that shit, would side eye a regular nigga walking up to them starting some sort of conversation



Who is the socially awkward lol



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20. "*pulls up milk crate*"
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21. ""it's not my fault you're pretty!""
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did you catch this thread?:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=11518985&mesg_id=11518985&listing_type=search#11518997

it's sad that grown men have to be told these things.

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24. "Cuz it's never worked right lmao"
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58. "oppression can't exist without the permission/participation of the oppre..."
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this happens because it's working somewhere.
we need to teach our daughters what to expect and accept from men as we teach our sons how to treat women.
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113. "LMAO"
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26. "oh yeah 150,000 years of evolution called for you"
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they said "no."

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73. "things change over 150,000 years. we're more than a primitive drive."
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at least, the ones that aren't hollering at women on the street are.
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27. "does this still apply???"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=11562739&mesg_id=11562739&page=3#11562747

for the record i agree with you. it was always uncomfortable to me. but we've all seen it work with some women. and not just work, but really work. so is this another of those things that only men you desire can do?
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believe in yourself.
have faith in your abilities.
without a humble but reasonable confidence in your own powers,
you cannot be successful or happy.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and

  

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80. "no."
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i realize that i can only speak for myself here

but the moment a man approaches me on the street, he becomes unattractive.
i'm not interested in someone who thinks that's appropriate.

i also don't really want some strange dude grinding his penis on me on a dancefloor.
i was bein silly with that.
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28. "It's so easy to talk to a woman on the street though."
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I've never understood why men can't do it properly and without desperate thirst seeping out of every pore in their body.

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29. "if they stop, then women would start complaining about why men"
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arent blowing up they egos (getting attention). its a part of nature, every male woos the female in a dance, facial makeup (monkeys with red face), build the biggest nest, etc. in this case men holla cuz its part of the mating evolution we've become accustomed to. yes some or all is disrespectful to most women as far as the type of holleration techniques that are out there, but men dont know that until you check them and tell them how'd you like to be approached.


anyway i wish there was a vid of black men vs other men hollering to women, i would wanna know who would come out on top.

take a message

  

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48. "Basically confession wednesday"
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70. "i understand evolution, but we're more than a primitive drive."
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your balls might be saying 'you need to plant a seed in that uterus. her estrogen levels are good, as evidenced by her fat ass and big titties, and im sure that she can nurse my children and see that they grow up strong and healthy, thus passing on my genes to the next generation.'

but your brain should say, 'this is not the time or place for this.'
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357. "she just did"
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>out there, but men dont know that until you check them and
>tell them how'd you like to be approached.


not on the street

you se the response in here
its not much better on the street when you tell them to stop


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30. "A closed mouth don't get fed n/m"
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84. "there are more appropriate places to look for a bite."
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133. "I'm sayin, where? "
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That's probably the one time I'm ever gonna see this woman so if I don't make contact then it's a wrap.

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389. "lol, everytime this question is asked, it's ignored."
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435. "Son. I don't know if this is a common feminine characterisitic"
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or if it's just common in the women I observe. But they can quickly and easily tell you what they *don't* like.

But ask them what they do like, and they're dumbfounded or continue to tell you what they don't like.
Now, of course, I've been told that women like for men to "just know" how to please them, but at some point that's just unrealistic.
Nigga askin' her a simple question to which a straight answer would diffuse all tension and can't get clear communication from her?
Sounds like she's to blame for her own complaints, at that point.

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447. "Because, man, if you REALLY loved her you would understand her.."
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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457. "lol"
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472. "Sounds pretty logical to me n/m"
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471. "Ok, so it's not just me then lol. "
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658. "No, lol. I've been waiting for the answer to this."
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So far... *crickets*

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33. "so wait I see an attractive woman as I'm walking down the street"
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I can't say hello and intro myself?
i can see if i'm in the car and pull over and open the door and tell her to get in...

but what's wrong with a PROPER intro and get to know u session if the feeling is mutual?

I got a good life man

  

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40. "RE: so wait I see an attractive woman as I'm walking down the street"
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>I can't say hello and intro myself? she reaching if she's including this in her list

>i can see if i'm in the car and pull over and open the door
>and tell her to get in...
what are trying to do pickup a prostitute


>but what's wrong with a PROPER intro and get to know u session
>if the feeling is mutual?
again she's talking for herself and not all women. shit i like the street hollas, keep'em coming.

take a message

  

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44. "shhh! you making too much sense right now dude."
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87. "no."
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>but what's wrong with a PROPER intro and get to know u session if the feeling is mutual?

there is no proper way to do it on the street.

it's SO pervasive that a lot of women--i know i cant speak for us all, but me and nearly every one that i know--get battered with that.
it's tired. it's never exceptional. im just trying to go guy a juice at the store.

there's a time and a place. the street, in my opinion, is not one of them at all.
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92. "so what makes you walking down the street different from you "
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being at a bar and I approach...
again it should not be over the top or disrespectful but if we make eye contact and it APPEARS she might be receptive to a "hello my name is Ed" I'm not seeing a problem..

again i've seen the side yall don't like and I agree but wow never new street holla was an off limit thing

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469. "Bars are places meant for social interaction."
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Going out on the street is a necessary step to get to bars, stores, restaurants or any other place with a specific purpose. I can imagine it being incredibly annoying if every time you go out to get some groceries or have a coffee with a friend, random people walk up to you and try to strike up a conversation that you're sure you're not interested in. Even though they mean well most of the time.

There's tons of places where striking up a conversation is more appropriate than on the street, go there. If you can't think of such places, it's probably time to stop hanging around on the street all day.

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34. "this is the dumbest post lol..."
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Game is a strategy...

If a dude ask you where your man at, it's obviously because you are that attractive and we KNOW 8 times out if 10 you will say you ain't got one...

...fine ass women we assume have men unless we find out otherwise, so why even ask the Megan Good clone where her man at?

...we don't even care if you HAVE a man anyway...



...know what, fuck it...


Okplayery shit

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88. "i can't help but feel that you've missed the point here."
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147. "you HAVE no point"
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170. "harassment is her point"
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200. "walking up to you and starting a convo is not "
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harassment.



Saying Bitch them is some big ass titties, can I borrow them for a few hours?
That's different...


A holla is a holla no matter where you are.

You having a bad day or a negative outlook on life and human interaction ain't MY problem.

Some women don't know how to communicate for shit.

Yeah, you don't have to talk to us, but there is also tact and maturity in being able to express that, although you may or may not be flattered by the attention or acknowledge the attempt to inquire about personal information, you aren't interested in taking it further than a thank you or kindly declining further conversation at that point...


Then KIM


anything past that would be considered harassment and THEN you can restructure your post to highlight negative reactions to polite rejection.


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211. "hello."
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fuck you.

  

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269. "if you arent walking up to the person next to me"
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>harassment.


and your fellow male
you might as well be saying
bitch i want to get with them big ass titties


when i have a pair of headphones on and am reading a book
when i am clearly walking during rush hour
again with headphones on
this is not simply starting a conversation
this is an imposition on my time

every precious second taken to stop you in your efforts to get at me
is a wasted second of my life
and this is not one second
this is several seconds
several minutes
from several males
several times a day

so excuse the millions of women who don't want to waste their precious time
which to most men apparently isnt precious
on a stranger on a street
again attempting to get their their pussy

its not communal pussy
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282. "I LOVE U"
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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348. "you are crazy as fuck, yo..."
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everyone ain't trying to get yo pussy first of all...



...secondly,

reading a book with headphones on while walking is a classic sign of a socially awkward fool.

Rush hour time is SO precious that you have to read Eric Jerome Dickey or the Bible, while listening to 2 Chainz and playing Temple Run while walking to the bus or train...


Half these broads plug into these outward devices just to take themselves further away from reality and interaction.

Is Gucci Mane that much more important...
Is 50 Shades of bullshit, THAT pivotal in your life?


Humanity suffers when women, the nurturers and mothers and teachers of this Earth, rush to disassociate themselves from their surroundings....

...each one teach one, not each one for themselves...

...the world was far better when people talked to each other and formed a sense of community and unity...

...nowadays, that antisocial "don't look at me, don't talk to me, don't tell me how to do anything, LEAVE ME ALONE! type bullshit takes society back so far...

Men will steady holla at what we like and strike convo...

If you are a man who is know to be a life of the party and conversationalist, as well as a jovial person in general, it will irk you to see people so focused on negativity and not appreciating the blessings and happiness they should be thankful for...

...oh you had a bad day, someone looked at your titties on the bus, someone with bad teeth had the audacity to say hello to you on the platform, you are so down and not feeling bothered????

...someone just died, someone just got raped, someone lost a leg or just got diagnosed with cancer...

...all this to say, THE WORLD DON'T REVOLVE AROUND YOU HEFFA! people have it much worse and some have it better and that negative, bitchy shit has no place in normal interaction.


Fuck your antisocial armor (phone, headphones, books etc.) a hello is a hello. A compliment is a compliment.




...saw this broad on the train a week ago on her okcupid phone app looking though boxes or pictures or however that shit works, and a dude say in front of her in a side facing seat and looked at her, smiled (said nothing) and sat there. 5 min later dude says, I like your ankh tattoo -short version of the story she was tatted up- and he has a similar one on his bicep, and she gives this annoyed look and pulls out some headphones and puts them in, naan music app turned on naan radio app, just still on that okcupid shit (I was all up in her screen trying to see what kinda pics she posted, cause she was banging...)

her lonely ass probably went home to set up a jump off session with some nigga named Nathaniel and missed an opportunity to just have a convo with dude and THAT shit happens ALL THE TIME...













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370. "fuck your crazy ass too"
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>everyone ain't trying to get yo pussy first of all...

get a pussy and find the fuck out
otherwise
stick to the dick you know about


>...secondly,
>
>reading a book with headphones on while walking is a classic
>sign of a socially awkward fool.

LOL

listen you want to go around talking to everyone all the time
have at it

dont expect me to engage with your stranger ass
yes what is going in my world in my device in my mind is
INFINITELY more important than ANYTHING you have to tell me
why?
because you're a strange
with ZERO entitlement to my time


take your altruistic sense of community
to the old woman or man sitting next to me
take your talkative lonely ass self to the psychiatrist even
because thats how desperate and lonely you are for someones time
that you need to approach a total stranger in the street
because you have no friends and no family who will speak to you
i on the other hand dont have this problem

so yes dont talk to me because those closest to you have deemed you unworthy of conversation
its highly and heavily doubtful your not after pussy
yes pussy
because there are 70 people on this muthafucking train
half of whom do not have headphones
and are not reading a damn book
and are not a woman
but your fool convincing no one regarding "community" and "social" ass wants to talk to the person in a crowd FULL of people
a woman with headphones, reading a book

thats rude, pathetic, sad and worthy of therapy & drugs
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377. "you probably the last woman in here that would have this issue"
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In the first place.

What you trying so hard to rep from the pretty girl side of the world is beyond me.


No wonder your only co-signer is a gay dude



Live women are in here posting they have no issue with interaction as long as it's respectful, while you the only one trying to not be bothered by anything.





Lets take a poll of how many women posting are single as FUCK and see if there is a pattern?


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379. "LOL"
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damn you sad

you time is done

run along now
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468. "Gotdamb lol"
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Basically tho.
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477. "what was it? purple mountains"
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oh and doc claw wants to socialize with you

but according to that

you aren't social or desirable enough to understand what he typed


LOL
yeah
purple mountains
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494. "No habla batshyt"
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498. "^^^^^ this nigga wilin...LOLOL"
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no diss
that shit was funny

  

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528. "you babble it real well though"
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574. "http://i52.tinypic.com/5p4xoo.jpg"
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http://i52.tinypic.com/5p4xoo.jpg






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391. "^^^^^^ lol......this reply was classic"
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made alot of sense

i don't believe that all approaches are negative ones....

but there are some that are.....just like anything else, i guess.


good points....

most were funny....lol

  

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386. "i've gotten this plenty times"
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> Bitch them is some big ass titties, can I borrow them
>for a few hours?


sans the "Bitch" part

niggas in the street are gully as fuck....



  

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394. "they are some big titties though..."
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In their defense...


...look like you trying to shoplift a couple beach balls from Sports Authority...


...look like you let a nigga titty fuck you raw and he got your chest pregnant with twins...


...look like you gonna need a separate Obamacare plan for your lower back...


...look like...


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403. "i would be lying"
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if i said i didn't laff at these....

i like u

in a "desus" kinda way.....


i do

  

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413. "i like you too..."
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...in a bloocollar Jade Typhoon post way...










...now had I been standing on 79th street, this convo wouldn't have been able to happen...



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35. "can we get a list of acceptable places to holla at women?"
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church
black owned bookstores
lobby after a charlie wilson concert

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47. "outside of the courtroom"
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Lobby of Planned parenthood
Parking lot outside prom
Outside of Olympia college and all the other schools where broads wear scrubs


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59. "NO LOGIN NO BALLS IN"
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85. "NO FOLLOW NO SWALLOW"
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74. "the let out."
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all let outs.
clubs.
bars.
church.
AA meetings.
the free clinic.

the let out is an acceptable holla zone.
if she wasn't tryna get that holla, why'd she even go in to come out.

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76. "grocery store/ home depot/ car wash/ coin-op/ vet office/ on the bus"
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230. "Weddings, funeral, the emergency room..."
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The abuse clinic, bookstore, concert, club, Costco, bus, bowling alley and sporting events.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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341. "the EMERGENCY room??? abuse clinic?????"
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wtf?

  

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36. "So should we follow them home, THEN holler?"
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________________________________________
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46. "please god dont. the worst thing a woman hate is being followed."
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take a message

  

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90. "i chuckled. on some real shit though i got followed home at 12"
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by a grown ass man telling me how much he liked my overalls.

it starts so young, and men wonder why we're over this shit by the time we're 25.
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39. "ladies: stop dressing to get attention--"
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then get upset when you get that attention

stop pretending you were born yesterday

stop using your sexuality to get things

stop acting like you're entitled to chivalry and soft behavior

stop being equal and independent when it suits you

stop expecting people to take your feelings in to account

stop going on dates with men and expecting them to pick up the check AND see you as an equal

stop expecting men to pay for your time (or at least call it what it is: prostitution)

  

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57. "POAST"
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Once you tear a rose from the roots, the rose screams

  

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62. "^^THIS^^"
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http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Billy-D_Approves.gif

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111. "http://i54.tinypic.com/qq1rp1.jpg"
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http://i54.tinypic.com/qq1rp1.jpg







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167. "lol now im glad i didnt go the Predator route with mine"
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175. "LOL...yo, you and me was inna zone on some...>><<"
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125. "http://i25.tinypic.com/1551550.gif/"
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http://i25.tinypic.com/1551550.gif/

  

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142. "MENS RIGHTS MOVEMENT. "
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WHEN ARE MEN GOING TO STOP GETTING THE SHITTY END OF THE STICK.


i'm out.
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174. "www.sptimes.com/2004/10/25/images/homepg/preacher450.jpg"
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43. "When did u start posting so beige nygga"
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45. "I'll just park this here:"
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http://www.stopstreetharassment.org/male-allies/educating-boys-men/

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53. "i'm done with okplayer for today, ya'll have fun."
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http://leftycartoons.com/street-harassment/

take a message

  

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51. "stop walkin around lookin all good-n-stuff..."
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52. "I saw a dude do a wack hollar the other day..."
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...and she gleefully responded.

Therein lies the rub.

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64. "yep lol i dont mind street hollas as long as theyre not disrespectful"
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86. "exactly"
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hey how ya doing is fine, if I stop and engage you and actually look at you and smile then YOU ARE IN THERE.

if I keep walking, dont engage, dont give you eye contact and tell you I have a boyfreind after you ask and you still keep following me, trying to convince me that I want you, then thats a problem.


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124. "^ ^ ^This pretty-much covers it!"
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245. "I would stare "
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auset1 down until it was uncomfortable...

  

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460. "unbearably uncomfortable"
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i might not get to see anymore

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693. "I got light eyes so it "
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would take a while... lol.

  

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392. "THANK YOU!"
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Not every dude is an uncouth moron. A LOT of us get it.

smh

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56. "its fine as long as they come correct and are respectful "
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all this shit right here gotta go tho

>
>stop asking women where they men at
>
>stop calling women over to talk to you while you're sitting in
>your car
>
>stop telling them to smile (word to t.lynn faz -
>http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_majg4g5JyX1r1kx42o1_500.jpg)
>
>stop interrupting them when theyre on the phone, listening to
>music, reading a book or otherwise preoccupied
>
>stop pressing when she tells you she's not interested
>
>don't continue trying to talk to her after it's clear she's
>ignoring you
>
>stop thinking that 'damn baby you got a fat ass' is a
>compliment
>
>when she turns you down, don't call her a bitch and tell her
>she ain't that cute anyway
>
>stop feeling like we owe you time or conversation
>
>if she snaps at you, don't blame her
>

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77. "tell em!(c)Biggie"
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61. "i look at women on the street like i'm gonna rob them at gunpoint"
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that's the reaction they're afraid of, that's the reaction they deserve to get and i give it to 'em.

https://twitter.com/chuck4prez

  

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63. "that is the dumbest thing i think i've read on here all week"
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---------------------------------------
believe in yourself.
have faith in your abilities.
without a humble but reasonable confidence in your own powers,
you cannot be successful or happy.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and

  

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66. "the poast called for it"
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https://twitter.com/chuck4prez

  

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91. "it actually didn't, at all."
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96. "*hollas at trace on the street, with my had in my hoodie like i got a ga..."
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https://twitter.com/chuck4prez

  

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98. "ok"
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108. "only on days when louisville plays pitt tho"
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https://twitter.com/chuck4prez

  

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114. "stop"
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you creeped it up
aint no 'laugh it off' joke you can throw out there

just let it fade organically
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116. "yawn"
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179. "LMAO!!"
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65. "The class element to this issue seems huge, to me."
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But no one mentions that part.

  

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"i actually agree with this, u dont see many men in suits doing"


  

          

this or with good jobs

prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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624. "walk down wall street in a sun dress"
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yuck mouth knows no class, financial status, etc.

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67. "the alternative is what? the internet* and mutual friends"
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*where 85% of my numbers have been done from anyway

women dont want to be approached in clubs

women dont want to be approached in public by strangers

what's left as a solution to this problem?

it cant be as cut and dry as "street hollers are wrong" bc in no way is every street holler harassment

  

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78. "The solution is clear: step aside and let a Live Nigga holler."
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Problem solved.

Well, not really, because who she thinks is a Live Nigga won't always match if the dude thinks he's a Live Nigga.

  

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79. "The solution is clear: step aside and let a Live Nigga holler."
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Problem solved.

Well, not really, because who she thinks is a Live Nigga won't always match if the dude thinks he's a Live Nigga.

  

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95. "this isn't up to you to decide."
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>in no way is every street holler harassment

your INTENT may not be to harass, but you don't get to decide whether or not you're being harassing. that's up to the person on the receiving end.


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115. "why did you use the word 'holler'?"
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is every approach a 'holler'?

do you think it's always unacceptable for a man to approach a woman he doesn't know? if not, when is it appropriate?

fuck you.

  

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155. "^^^^^^"
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That's all I really want to know.

  

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119. "By the time you have enough info to decide, the holler has already "
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happened.

Unless you just know that nothing out of this dudes mouth is going to be persuasive.

In which case the real issue is that that particular guy was the "wrong guy", he never had a chance.

  

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246. "for clarity: it isnt harassment if she's open to being approached"
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facts:
women are great
women deserve to be approached with respect
every woman doesnt take being approached in the street as harassment, disrespect or a nuisance

i think (with all the respect in the world for your writing talents), this post should have been framed in more of a "if a woman is clearly uninterested, leave her alone" type of direction

you made things really cut and dry when it's kind of a Trace thing that many women can relate to, not an all women thing

  

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107. "agreed."
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fuck you.

  

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69. "it would be great if they did."
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like LIFE CHANGING great.
do cartwheels and light a candle great.




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72. "now would you trade all that.. to be ugly as fuck???"
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"Give a woman the moon, bitch will want another moon to go with it"

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82. "Yo, I have NO DAMN IDEA why I burst into laughter off this reply."
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I think it was the ellipsis before "to be ugly as fuck?" that shattered my gentle spirit.

☺☻

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83. "all what?"
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93. "everything that makes you hollerable???"
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121. "lol, there are some women ain't heard a street holler since the 90s"
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They'd be mad as fuck reading this post, talking about "oh, she think she's too cute for..."

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152. "IKR, but THIS IS OKAYPLAYER where dreams come true."
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158. "This pretty funny if true."
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"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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442. "AP you are officially funny. God damn i just broke. "
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97. "until this is something that men can experience,"
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they just won't understand it. and i get that.

"i'd love it if women approached me that often!"

i compare it to being called by telemarketers selling shit you don't want every 5 minutes when you just want to be left alone to nap or finish your dinner or read a book in peace.
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106. "I think there are guys in this post that understand your personal"
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frustration full and well; the problem is that the perfect stranger who has successfully hollared at women in the street won't know that you personally don't want to be bothered at all because he doesn't know you well enough to know the hollering annoys you.

The potential for danger from guys going above and beyond you express you are annoyed or don't want to be bothered is unfortunate though.

I'm surprised there aren't tee shirts that ironically or sarcastically deal with this non-holleration stance from women. Make soem tee shirts expressing your frustration and make some dollars from your misery.

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120. "it's part of living in a world populated w/ppl other than yourself."
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LOL

sorry.

fuck you.

  

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176. "seriously"
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265. "when yall have to hunt for dick...holler at me"
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470. "lmaoo this mad me really LOL"
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but word up tho, holla when they gotta hunt
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75. "get the entire fuck out of here"
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crazy niggas gonna be crazy no matter what venue they holler at

it's an art...one that i mastered...until women pursue...it's very hard to tell us when it's appropriate to do so for ALL women...

some women hate it, some are neutral towards it, some only want respectful hollers, some just want the attention, some are open to all takers...

plus, yall misinterpret casual convo for flirting...

women will become lesbians before pursuing men for sex/relationships

telling men to not street holler is like telling women not to be groupies for celebrities

it's all part of the circle of life Nala

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89. "niggas acting like Obama aint hit michelle with a "yo ma""
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110. "what?"
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>crazy niggas gonna be crazy no matter what venue they holler
>at

"crazy niggas" arent the only ones that do this shit. it's widely accepted as a way to approach a woman, and in my opinion, it shouldnt be
i know decent dudes who do this just because they dont know how (a lot of) women feel about it

>it's an art...one that i mastered...until women pursue...it's
>very hard to tell us when it's appropriate to do so for ALL
>women...

i dont even know what that means

>some women hate it, some are neutral towards it, some only
>want respectful hollers, some just want the attention, some
>are open to all takers...
>
>plus, yall misinterpret casual convo for flirting...

if im out minding my business and am stopped 24 times by some dude trying to holler, forgive me if i assume that you're bout to be on the same shit when you come up as #25. yall don't understand the SMOTHERING FREQUENCY with which this happens.
it's not just the 'pretty' girls, it's not only when we look nice
it's pervasive, unavoidable, and tiring.

>women will become lesbians before pursuing men for
>sex/relationships

this is incorrect and weird. plenty of women approach men .

>telling men to not street holler is like telling women not to
>be groupies for celebrities
>

irrel as hell. also, offensive.


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261. "smh"
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>"crazy niggas" arent the only ones that do this shit. it's
>widely accepted as a way to approach a woman, and in my
>opinion, it shouldnt be
>i know decent dudes who do this just because they dont know
>how (a lot of) women feel about it
>

if it's widely accepted...why u crying?

it's accepted...you don't like that...but all u have is a reason for men to stop hollering at SOME women...i do know how a lot of women feel about it...i just listed a variety of ways lol...the thing is for every 1 who feels inconvenienced it's at least 1-3 who find the attention flattering to awesome

>>it's an art...one that i mastered...until women
>pursue...it's
>>very hard to tell us when it's appropriate to do so for ALL
>>women...
>
>i dont even know what that means
>

work on your comprehension...men are the pursuers...until yall become fully ok with taking that "burden" off of us...you really don't have a whole lot of say on what venues are most acceptable...it sucks for those that don't enjoy it...and i think if more people are respectable and handle rejection better...the amount of women who are neutral-positive about it would increase exponentially...in other words...men get better and more savvy...women...i'm sorry about those game-goofy motherfuckers but hi (c)

>>some women hate it, some are neutral towards it, some only
>>want respectful hollers, some just want the attention, some
>>are open to all takers...
>>
>>plus, yall misinterpret casual convo for flirting...
>
>if im out minding my business and am stopped 24 times by some
>dude trying to holler, forgive me if i assume that you're bout
>to be on the same shit when you come up as #25. yall don't
>understand the SMOTHERING FREQUENCY with which this happens.
>it's not just the 'pretty' girls, it's not only when we look
>nice
>it's pervasive, unavoidable, and tiring.

cool hyperbole sis...it is mostly the pretty girls getting that SMOTHERING...u from NY? must suck being in public so often and being moderately attractive...just say YOU yourself don't like them and continue to dislike it...i hate when people small talk me in general...but i'm not about to be all aggy about the shit ever occurring...and that shit happens at a SMOTHERING FREQUENCY...sheesh...what you mean "hello" i heard that shit 217 times today nigga...DAMN

>>women will become lesbians before pursuing men for
>>sex/relationships
>
>this is incorrect and weird. plenty of women approach men .
>

lolz foh

it's like 10% of yall even willing to do that shit...thirsty women everywhere try everything in the world to attract a holler but won't holler for fear of some dumb shit...we the hunters...sorry

>>telling men to not street holler is like telling women not
>to
>>be groupies for celebrities
>>
>
>irrel as hell. also, offensive.
>

not really...those are the women that holler...u think NBA players going around..."GOARSH...all these groupies everywhere? why don't they just get a real job and find husbands and shit"

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143. "^ ^ ^A whole lotta Jewels right here!"
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>crazy niggas gonna be crazy no matter what venue they holler
>at

Bet dat.

>it's an art...one that i mastered...until women pursue...it's
>very hard to tell us when it's appropriate to do so for ALL
>women...

Nahmean.

>some women hate it, some are neutral towards it, some only
>want respectful hollers, some just want the attention, some
>are open to all takers...

Fa'sho.

>plus, yall misinterpret casual convo for flirting...

My ninja ain't NEVA lied!

>women will become lesbians before pursuing men for
>sex/relationships

Kinda, they do it, but it be on some Kunoichi/shinobi shit.
If a Jawn is feeling you tough like dat, she will backdoor-holla in a buzzlightyear second.

>telling men to not street holler is like telling women not to
>be groupies for celebrities

Word.

>it's all part of the circle of life Nala

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81. "i was walking home w/2 bags of groceries & this dude goes, 'can i "
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help you with that, beautiful.

i politely smiled and said, 'no thank you'.

he yelss as i'm walking away, 'Oh, he got you like THAT! DAMN!'

lmao...ooooooooooooookay...*does cuckoo sign*

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118. "it can NEVER be about being polite or helpful"
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like, how disheartening to know that someone is only being nice to you because he wants something from you

after that initial 'hello, how you doin, you look nice' you just know what's coming next

it really is disappointing.
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100. "WILD HUNNERDS"
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Agree with pretty much most of these

stop asking women where they men at
It's ignant...along with IS your husband married? Stop.



stop calling women over to talk to you while you're sitting in your car
Ignant.

stop telling them to smile (word to t.lynn faz - http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_majg4g5JyX1r1kx42o1_500.jpg)
I get this one ALOT but wouldn't I look goofy as hell just smiling down the street randomly?

stop interrupting them when theyre on the phone, listening to music, reading a book or otherwise preoccupied
I saw a lady straight snap at a drunk ass dude that was tryna holla while she was on her phone.
She.
Snapped.

stop pressing when she tells you she's not interested
THIS

don't continue trying to talk to her after it's clear she's ignoring you
THIS

stop thinking that 'damn baby you got a fat ass' is a compliment
It aint a compliment.

when she turns you down, don't call her a bitch and tell her she ain't that cute anyway
This is very rachet.

stop feeling like we owe you time or conversation
We don't owe you SHIT

BUT I have experienced some properly executed street hollars.
Usually in the summer time.
The introductory sentence must be game tight though.
A good joke or something, no "hey ma" no shit like that, something attention grabbing but not tacky.

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102. "This post got me type mad right now."
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536. "^"
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105. "i can't clap to this."
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nothing wrong w/dudes approaching women on the street, if the approach is made w/tact and respect. and if the woman isn't interested, it's perfectly fine for her to let the fellow know. of course a gentleman doesn't act out based on the rejection.



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123. "the ratio of 'appropriate/polite' to rude, annoying, and harassing"
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is ridiculous.

and the pervasiveness of it all is something that i don't think people who don't experience it understand.

if never having to be pestered by someone on the street who cant take no for an answer also means never being approached in a gentlemanly fashion, so be it.
completely fair trade.


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126. "stop being a goofy bitch and assume all of us do this all the time"
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if that's what you think, my reply is fully valid, which is why you deserved the reply you got from me.

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134. "she's putting a lil extra on it b/c she's venting."
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it's cool.

of course there's nothing wrong w/guys approaching women on the street if they do it respectfully and don't get all nasty if the woman rejects the approach. and yes, it's frustrating that too many guys are disrespectful and nasty w/these approaches. but that doesn't at all mean that all guys should stop approaching.

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141. "damn Chuck. did she fuck you in the ass dog??"
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is that pucker a little tender? cause you posting real butthurt? and if it ain't your ass then it must be your vagina, cause your posts read a little vaginal too.
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believe in yourself.
have faith in your abilities.
without a humble but reasonable confidence in your own powers,
you cannot be successful or happy.

not compassionate....only polite.

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156. "how did u even think to come out ur bird with this statement? "
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this is exactly what she is talking about... u don't agree but y be disrespectful while doing it.

smh... maybe u need to relax and take a nap or something

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162. "probably, but i'm tired of the horse shit, especially in this department"
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which brings out the absolute worst in me, and i'm not apologizing for it.

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173. "well this approach will surely work "
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seems to be working in the middle east...

i mean ru dating her?
wth are you so mad for?
number of ladies have already said it's cool
this is what trace and a few others want... not what I want but willing to respect it.

try that approach see how it works

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177. "#whiterage"
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184. "it went from not probably to definitely"
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and you should

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186. "dont worry about apologizing or saying shit else to me"
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we been e-cool for 10 years
you say some REALLY DUMB STUPID FUCKING SHIT and now im all kinda goofy bitches and shit

your emotions need to do some fucking pushups
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213. "*replies to this post*"
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232. "he tryna quit cigs. let's give him a pass for a few weeks"
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417. "in his defense (and I don't defend white boys)"
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this entire post topic is some DUMB STUPID IGNORANT SHIT....


so you only have yourself to blame for inciting emotion and outrage and your outlandish accusations and demonizing of men in the OP.




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161. "go drink a hot tea, man."
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171. "yo did somebody hack your fucking account?"
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im a goofy bitch now?

am i a goofy bitch now because reading comprehension isnt your strong point and you're seeing shit that i didn't say?

or am i a goofy bitch because you came in this fucking post thinking you were being clever and fell flat on your face? pretty sure that's what it is

kick rocks and keeps scrambling for the last word, you emotional dickhole.



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349. "WOW REALLY?"
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127. "oh, okay. you're just venting frustration. "
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i get it.


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149. "so just walking down the street is an invitation to be spoken to"
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or bothered, i get annoyed if a JW tries to hand me a bible pamphlet, im just trying to get on the train

i can only imagine (shit who am im kidding we have all seen this bullshit) how women feel when they are just trying to get to the store and they have some stranger no matter how polite being all in their grill and their space

I CANT

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160. "yes. yes, it is."
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it's really okay too.

i can't diagnose you ppl w/social disorders or depression or whatnot, but that's what y'all sound like w/this.

but yes, it's really okay for ppl to momentarily speak to you when you're out in public. you can politely decline to converse w/them or accept whatever they're trying to offer...nothing wrong w/that either. but it's kinda...i dunno...to be huffy each and every time anyone tries to communicate w/you when you're out in public. IMO, at least.

*shrug*

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187. "LOL its definitely NOT an invitation, u could reasonably expect"
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it to happen but just walking out ur door is not an invitation, also im about 110% sure this is not about a simple hello but more about a hello with the intent to flirt or get more than a hello back

the title of the post: stop HOLLARING at women on the street, come on sowhat lol

i cant diagnose what kinda contrary benefit ur trying to get outta this but u can stop now

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199. "sure, guy."
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sure.

fuck you.

  

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397. "I agree.....especially here, in the south...we speak to EVERYbody"
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don't know bout yawl northerners....

  

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150. "exactly."
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ain't nothing wrong with a public holla.

no reason to make a goddamn 3 act play out of it.

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112. "let it be idris elba sayin some of it tho..."
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i mean
alot of what u cited -ABSOFUCKINLUTELY

but a man sayin, "smile"?
no.
& the interruption is only an interruption if u're otherwise involved w/someone or don't find the interrupter attractive

a man has to find his opening somewhere!!! haha
if i'm readin a book & a man excuses his interruptions & speaks...
i'm mad now?

maybe it's the lack of blk men i see on the daily
but i'll even speak first when i'm passin a man on the street
smile w/no teeth & keep it goin

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122. "^ agreed."
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fuck you.

  

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128. "yep."
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129. "I mean I've had women tell me to smile on the street."
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I just don't get the abrasion to that one. Smile and keep walking.

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139. "when i'm having a depressive episode that sort of thing makes me"
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livid.

i dunno that Trace suffers from any sort of depression disorder, so i'm not putting that on her.

but i recognize that kind of talk.

fuck you.

  

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178. "Understandable."
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132. "RE: let it be idris elba sayin some of it tho..."
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>i mean
>alot of what u cited -ABSOFUCKINLUTELY
>
>but a man sayin, "smile"?
>no.
>& the interruption is only an interruption if u're otherwise
>involved w/someone or don't find the interrupter attractive

i hate being told to smile. what if im in a bad mood? is this not my face? can i not do what i want with it? it's tacky.

and for me, the interruption is ALWAYS an interruption.
i'm turned off by men who approach women on the street, regardless of what he looks like.


>a man has to find his opening somewhere!!! haha
>if i'm readin a book & a man excuses his interruptions &
>speaks...
>i'm mad now?

i absolutely cannot stand it. headphones on, face in a book, phone on my ear, leave me completely alone.

>maybe it's the lack of blk men i see on the daily
>but i'll even speak first when i'm passin a man on the street
>smile w/no teeth & keep it goin


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146. "what if a woman came up to you in the same scenario"
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>i absolutely cannot stand it. headphones on, face in a book,
>phone on my ear, leave me completely alone.

is it just as offensive or could you possibly be concerned about her reasonings for interrupting you?
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294. "it happens"
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>>i absolutely cannot stand it. headphones on, face in a
>book,
>>phone on my ear, leave me completely alone.
>
>is it just as offensive or could you possibly be concerned
>about her reasonings for interrupting you?


everyone need directions always
the problem is they want to impose upon who is convenient for THEM
its a bus/train full of people
but this little old lady wants to ask you

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151. "RE: let it be idris elba sayin some of it tho..."
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involved w/someone or don't find the interrupter attractive
>
>i hate being told to smile. what if im in a bad mood? is
>this not my face? can i not do what i want with it? it's
>tacky.

well how is he to know?
maybe he senses that
he's tryin to lighten ur day
u walkin around like somebody stomped on ur juice box @ recess...i dunno haha

>and for me, the interruption is ALWAYS an interruption.
>i'm turned off by men who approach women on the street,
>regardless of what he looks like.

okay but really, trace?
sometimes men are just speakin to u
aknowledgin ur presence

>>a man has to find his opening somewhere!!! haha
>>if i'm readin a book & a man excuses his interruptions &
>>speaks...
>>i'm mad now?
>
>i absolutely cannot stand it. headphones on, face in a book,
>phone on my ear, leave me completely alone.

if u're *that* engaged?
i see what u're sayin
but if he honestly wants to holla
he's goin to

i just don't ever want to reach that point where a blk man speakin to me on the street is an issue
& i have had some harrible shit said to me before

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202. "damn woman, do you hate humans?"
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sounds like you need to move to another galaxy away from us, esp MEN.

take a message

  

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206. "^ this is how it reads."
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but she's clarified it a bit to say she's venting and is only semi-serious and that this is borne out of frustration w/disrespectful, unwanted advances from strange men.

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220. "in all fairness i'm the same way with social interactions"
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i'll speak to you. you don't really need to speak to me.
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without a humble but reasonable confidence in your own powers,
you cannot be successful or happy.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and

  

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226. "not suprising."
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fuck you.

  

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243. "thank you"
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250. "i love people! i hate being approached on the street!"
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SO rarely does somebody telling me to smile *just* want to see me smile
there's underlying motive that im really not in the mood for

'there you go! can i take you out sometime, id love to see that pretty smile some more!'

innocuous enough, sure, but if i don't want that from you, i dont want that from you, period, and that's my right
i get so tired of not being able to leave my house without having that discussion
it happens a LOT, and not cause im especially cute or anything
but because im a woman. that's it. that shit can be so dehumanizing when it happens with a crazy kind of frequency.

i know how it is. men gon holla & that's fine
im venting today
but overall, i dont like it and i dont HAVE to like it
im a southerner, i was born polite
but if i dont feel like talking to you, polite or not, i dont have to.
that is expected on the street & im not here for that at all.

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159. "Da hell you comin' in here makin' sense fo'?"
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400. "^^^^^^BASE"
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THIS is so true...

let a FOINE nigga do it....then u can't get enuff.....
or u get mad that he holla'd at another woman...who may be mildly less attractive than u.....

and u wonder why/how she got him and u didn't


it could be because he said "smile"

and she did.....

  

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130. "Location plays a big part, too"
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If you're in some ignorant-ass hood, you're gonna get ignorant-ass hollers/harassment.

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135. "What I hate when a woman makes a post like this."
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Because you always have niggas go "Then how YOU want me to talk to you?" or some other bullshit.

It's weird man.

Like. Just talk to her. I know OKP niggas is probably the most socially fucked sub-section of human beings this side of a "Curb" episode but SHIT.

Initiate eye contact without looking creepy. Smile a bit. Get her eye. Approach and break the ice about something.


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145. "the problem w/this post is"
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the OP doesn't want _any_ guy to approach her in _any_ manner _anywhere_. period.

she's being unreasonable, IMO.

this ain't the post for your stance, i think. b/c i've agreed w/what you're saying but i disagree w/in the context of this post based on what Trace has said in the OP and subsequent replies.

fuck you.

  

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157. "i don't think it's unreasonable."
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she basically gave a list of shit not to do because it's either trite, overused, ignorant, or disrespectful.

i see no problem with it.

i'm more responding to a few of the dude's reactions. they're pretending like she told them to never talk to a woman ever in any setting for the rest of their lives unless it's on the internet (where a woman still isn't 'safe').

i'm out.
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164. "To expect strangers"
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to not approach you in the street based on personal prefences you hold is a bit much though, especially when said personal preferenced action works on others in the same social setting. I understand her frustration and she's entitled to not wanting to be approached, but there's nothing she can do short of wearing a cloak to make herself invisible when she's on the streets. I'm guessing the frustration on Trace's part stems from that fact there isn't much she can do to stop dudes from approaching her.

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169. "i don't think it's unreasonable."
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i'm out.
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165. "...but this IS what she's saying, homie:"
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>they're
>pretending like she told them to never talk to a woman ever in
>any setting for the rest of their lives

read more of her replies in here.

this is what she's saying. that men should never, ever approach a woman in public ever. no matter the manner in which he approaches. he should never.

fuck you.

  

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180. "no, im saying don't approach women -on the street-"
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>this is what she's saying. that men should never, ever approach a woman in public ever. no matter the manner in which he approaches. he should never.

that's not what im saying at all.
ive said several times in this post that there are better, more constructive places to approach a woman. the post is titled 'stop approaching women *on the street*'

im not an idiot. i dont expect men to just stop approaching women, that doesn't make sense at all i'd never want that

youre right, i am venting, but my argument in seriousness is that the street is not the right place to approach a woman. or me, at least.
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188. "k."
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>i am venting

fuck you.

  

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190. "i think this is it:"
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>that the street is not the right place to approach a woman.
>or me, at least.

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193. "it's more this IMO:"
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>>or me, at least.

fuck you.

  

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205. "the highlight was to compliment that exact part."
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181. "And my problem with it is that it's being stated like it's some"
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common sense idea that all women agree with and that saying anything at all to women in the street never works.

It works all the time! The prescription she's giving is based on a stance that's inaccurate and doesn't apply go the women who would welcome hollers.

  

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189. "hello. "
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fuck you.

  

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183. "i get that trace is lookin to make her way frum point A to point B..."
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w/no interruptions

& honestly
we can't speak for how difficult it is or has been for her to do so

yet

u're in public

lots of shit comes w/bein out in public

shit that'll make u furious & afraid & small & irritated

& if she takes the measures to "control" her own actions
headphones
book
head down
the onus would appear to be upon the men

it's just that every man ain't every other man

  

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191. "yeah."
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fuck you.

  

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198. "this is very true"
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>it's just that every man ain't every other man

& at this point, the men who don't have any kind of chill when it comes to street hollering have fucked it up for those who can do so decently
im personally over all of them & aint tryna hear it no more

i thought it was clear that i was venting, though i am serious abt it
i dont snap at every man who approaches me on the street.
do i WANT it to stop, absolutely
do i expect that i will, hell no

but i dont like it, no matter who it comes from or what they look like
im over it



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223. "it's not a damned thing for u to get over..."
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what u feel is legitimate
& it's only logical it would "spread" to include all hollers
is it throwin the baby out w/the bath water?
perhaps
but it's ur baby & ur fuckin tub

i do know the more reserved or off-limits u appear
that some men will hone in on u
for that exact purpose
fuckin w/u
we just can't win @ games we're not willin to play
we get drafted into the bullshit

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185. "there's a difference between holler and approach."
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iont know.
she's venting and i feel her frustration.

maybe she wasn't able to frame her argument because it JUST happened. we don't know.

i just know that #135 works just fine with me. no method is 100% foolproof. i get rejected and ignored and i'm *neil degrasse tyson face* and move on.

i'm out.
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196. "i asked why she used the word 'holler'."
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she didn't clarify.

b/c i wanted to know if she was talking only about those rude, lude approaches or even the more refined, respectful ones. in other replies she seemed to be talking about all of them - saying men shouldn't ever approach. now she's said men shouldn't ever approach on the street - respectfully or not.

i think that's unreasonable.

fuck you.

  

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228. "i didnt see that question, sorry"
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>she didn't clarify.

im using holler and approach interchangeably.
i dont use holler and harass interchangeably.

no every holler is harassing, but what seems an innocent holler or approach to one person could be too much

im at a point now where i dont want to hear any of it out on the street, 'polite' or otherwise
so yeah, i dont want to be approached on the street at all, not harassingly, not 'appropriately,' id rather just be left alone

i really am talking specifically about being approached on the street. my bad if that got confused
but in different situations--bars, clubs, parties, whatever--im much more receptive to being approached. i expect it, i dont mind it, whatever.
but when im walking down the street and you pull over in your car and wait for me to come to your window like this is a drive through?
to some, maybe the guy is just saying hi to a pretty girl. i take personal offense to it.
i know and understand that not everyman that approaches a woman on the street is on some disrespectful shit
but i also know that street hollering/approaching can be a very volatile thing, especially depending on where you live
my guard is up much MUCH more when im walking down the street than when im at a bar or a bookstore or something.
it really, really is a different environment and experience.

>b/c i wanted to know if she was talking only about those rude,
>lude approaches or even the more refined, respectful ones. in
>other replies she seemed to be talking about all of them -
>saying men shouldn't ever approach. now she's said men
>shouldn't ever approach on the street - respectfully or not.
>
>i think that's unreasonable.

i, personally, dont want to be approached on the street at all, respectfully or not.

it's unlikely that that will ever happen, but i do not at all think that wanting to walk down a street uninterrupted is an unreasonable thing to want.

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241. "^^^^^^^^^^^"
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>i really am talking specifically about being approached on the
>street. my bad if that got confused
>but in different situations--bars, clubs, parties,
>whatever--im much more receptive to being approached. i expect
>it, i dont mind it, whatever.
>but when im walking down the street and you pull over in your
>car and wait for me to come to your window like this is a
>drive through?
>to some, maybe the guy is just saying hi to a pretty girl. i
>take personal offense to it.
>i know and understand that not everyman that approaches a
>woman on the street is on some disrespectful shit
>but i also know that street hollering/approaching can be a
>very volatile thing, especially depending on where you live
>my guard is up much MUCH more when im walking down the street
>than when im at a bar or a bookstore or something.
>it really, really is a different environment and experience.
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249. "good luck w/this."
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fuck you.

  

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365. "forreal."
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take a message

  

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255. "keep asserting urself and protecting urself, i dont see how any"
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one could hate on what u just wrote

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197. "Always a list of "don'ts" and hardly a list of "dos" or "how tos""
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Especially from #10.
I don't see how effective this is when arguing from negation.
Explicit is better than implicit.

  

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168. "^shit that only works on non-sistas^"
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276. "http://boubize.blogspot.com/2011/08/ninja-glimpse.html"
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http://boubize.blogspot.com/2011/08/ninja-glimpse.html

  

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136. "SO LISTEN!"
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lol

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137. "AYE BABY! LEMME SHOW U WHAT I'D DO TO THOSE HIPS!"
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don't do that, men.

but i think if it's done respectfully

i see nothing wrong with a street holla.

it's flattering and a nice gesture.

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144. "i wish all men could be women for one week"
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so they can see what shit like this feels like.

  

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166. "that would suck"
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172. "lol i mean i'd like for us to switch"
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i'll kill some spiders and pay for dates

  

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259. "You'd deal with the uncountable #s of rejections too?"
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Having to "man up" and "be assertive", but then get treated like you're some feral animal running loose on the streets?

Having to face the reality of *zero* dating options unless *you* do something about it, but doing something about it means that you have to deal with the aforementioned?


lol, I don't think most of y'all are built for that life.

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425. "nigga please"
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i don't necessarily think men or women have it harder or easier in dating. for every hardship men have, theres a flip side hardship for women.

but if i could take a wild guess, i'd say women have it harder.

i'd just like for y'all to know what it feels like to be constantly sexually objectified by strangers who are usually bigger, stronger, and more aggressive than you.


  

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675. "I feel this reply."
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278. "good luck hunting for pussy "
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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395. "right?"
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426. "lol like its that hard for men to get laid"
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if worst came to worst, i'd buy it no lie.

  

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482. "it's not hard because we have to practice"
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it's neither hard nor easy

but until you have experience of being on the hunt...

u have no idea what you are talking about

#WOLF

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236. "or just go to a gay bar..."
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same shit,

you go from the one who gazes to the one under the gaze (of gays...HA!)

its a mindfuck and I get the "feeling like a piece of meat" aspect

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427. "I've been to a lesbian club"
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and it was nowhere near as predatory as a mixed club.

  

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396. "Me too."
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148. "RE: stop hollering at women on the street."
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Honestly, I've never been the type of dude to "holla" at women on the street. Never did it and it never impacted my ability to get a date. Self control and common sense always trumped bullish*t ego tripping when trying to holla. But we still don't get it, hence this post apparently.

Realize that the art of the effective holla is based on context. Right place, right time, right approach, you might be good. Walking up to random fly chick on the street when her intention more than likely isn't finding her next husband...the odds are stacked against you. Factor in the male infantile ego and fear of rejection, the results typically are a bad situation when a respectful decline is met with disrespect. I actually feel bad for women who can't go outside without some random d*ck flying in their face in an attempted wack holla.

This isn't rocket science...sisters are practically telling us what doesn't work. Stop doing it, be fly and undeniable. Fellas, if you're wack, well, stop being wack and it wouldn't be a problem to begin with.

"get a life"

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154. "No."
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182. "stop hollering =/= stop speaking."
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there is nothing wrong with saying,
"good morning sista!"
"how are you this fine day?" *hat tip*
or whatever.

when guys do this with the intent to get the draws, most women can sense it, and that ain't cool.

when you do this with the expectation that she must respond positively to your advances, regardless of her mood or circumstances, that ain't cool.

when you do this with the hopes that the woman will respond in a way that could lead to getting to know her better, that's cool, but keep in mind that you cannot divorce your intent from the social realities - i.e. a lot women frequently get hollered at in a disrespectful way and do not have the time/energy or ability to distinguish a sincere cool brotha, from the street urchins who have wrecked the game for the rest. perhaps someday, when brothas start educating these young heads on the proper way to approach a lady and society is transformed into a place where women don't have to walk down the street constantly on edge, this will be different. for the time being, it is best to follow the aforementioned "stop hollering" protocols from the op.

also, sistas, we need to educate these young chics on how they deserve to be treated. these girls who be responding to this nonsense are wrecking it for the rest of us as well.


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192. "you should associate with a higher class of humanity"
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i know a lot of really pretty girls that ive NEVER IN LIFE heard complain about this

on the other side of that coin, just about everyone i know is above the sort of interaction that descends to "ayo you got a fat ass girl"

shitty attitudes from people of both sexes are going to happen regardless. the world is not the blanket fort in your bedroom.

  

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314. "lol but i dont have to like them"
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>shitty attitudes from people of both sexes are going to happen regardless.

inappropriate shit happens all the time in life
do we just throw our hands up and say 'welp! that's the way of the world!'

i dont have to LIKE any of this
this post is me not liking street hollers in literature form
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354. "i do, maybe thats defeatist on my part but i aint changing anyone"
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>inappropriate shit happens all the time in life
>do we just throw our hands up and say 'welp! that's the way
>of the world!'

and neither is anyone else. people are who they are for better or worse.

  

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194. "interesting post"
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The entitlement the men feel at speaking to perfect strangers on the street to the bafflement of having no other alternatives for meeting the opposite sex to the complete hostility and lack of understanding that random strangers in the world dont necessarily want any sort of contact with you.
Yes you k.i.m.
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204. "that sounds pretty anti-social to me."
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fuck you.

  

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207. "because dudes are doing this to just be social?"
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they hitting you up for a chat and random hello on the reg?
word?


its just "social" activity?

or predatory and pointed
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208. "good luck w/this, player."
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fuck you.

  

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216. "smh"
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prototype

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222. ". . ."
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=11564670&mesg_id=11564670&page=#11565277

fuck you.

  

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215. "LOL give the writers credit, they stuck with their original vision for u"
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251. "this cant be for real...like....at all...lol...a grownup cant walk past"
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another grownup
look em dead in they face and say

'Hey how you doin'

w/o it just being social...


i get spoke to by strangers(woman) literally all day every
they dont necessarily want nothin from me and vice versa


that is the most antisocial awkward weirdo liveinabubble ish i done ever heard

  

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301. "so you talk to random men regularly?"
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this happens at work
in the elevators
in the hallways
at the coffee shop
at the lunchspot

in a loud ass train station though
you want to have a random conversation with a perfect stranger
now
with the person with headphones
now
with the person reading
now
with all these other people around and available for your whimsy
this particular person

and the problem is that person...
right
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325. "some men do...but that still doens't matter"
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363. "oh it does and not regularly enough"
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yall practice your social skills with each other for a change

SoWhat is HAPPY to engage with you

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364. "Aye...u catch that game ...crazy right"
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Damn its hot/cold ouchea

Whats goin on man

lol

all day every


i dont run accross anybody wit headphones on cept the gym and kids

  

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406. "Right...i guess Marvin's "Whas Happenin Brutha" was an "
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irrational song then...

damn...folk touchy

  

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367. "men are the most talkingest to strangers ass ppl around"
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they invented random small talk

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422. "they really are"
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but most time
they tryna get the pussy
cause they simply cant move the conversation on the the dude sitting next to you
sans headphones
or the nice old woman reading her paper

nah they want to "talk" to you boo
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502. "wow"
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lol smh that wasnt my point at all

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401. "lol don't ever go to the south "
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you sound crazy as all hell #1

#2 where my fam is from in Alabama EVERYBODY speaks to EVERYBODY. it is totally unheard of to walk past a single human being without speaking (and it usually has nothing whatsoever with trying to holler)

not to mention like mwasi said dudes are the most random convo starters on earth! Shit i do it too. i like to share the world with people n shit *shrug*

I've had A LOT of interesting convos with total strangers that have led to all kinds of opportunities.

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412. "i have family in the south"
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>you sound crazy as all hell #1

ah so you regularly talk to people reading with headphones on...
right


>#2 where my fam is from in Alabama EVERYBODY speaks to
>EVERYBODY. it is totally unheard of to walk past a single
>human being without speaking (and it usually has nothing
>whatsoever with trying to holler)

my fam taught me not to talk to strangers
esp a little black girl
yes my family down south
esp being from NY




>not to mention like mwasi said dudes are the most random convo
>starters on earth! Shit i do it too. i like to share the world
>with people n shit *shrug*

i have alot of people in my world
and i'm very selective about who i let enter it

>I've had A LOT of interesting convos with total strangers that
>have led to all kinds of opportunities.

thats nice
they still are not entitled to my time
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288. "what's more social than sex?"
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lol

sex being predatory is because it's one person's role to pursue not bc the we out here trying to victimize women

if a woman pursues a man...is that not predatory?

yes...it's just the buffalo hunting the indian is all

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319. "BRAIN ASPLOSION!!!!"
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326. "you are"
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>pursue not bc the we out here trying to victimize women

its pretty simple
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362. "i really do actually hate you, lol"
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but i don't blame you...i'm tempted to pat you on the head and put u in the headlock

misogyny and patriarchy ruined your brain's capabilities to use reason when speaking on matters of sex and how people attain it

men are predators...the negative connotation yall add to that is unfortunate and due to the extreme nature of sexual crimes and harassment...it makes you irrational and unrealistic on the topic

men pursue women...fact

men have to do so...in public...fact

sex isn't evil even when one person seeks out the other person to have relations...there is nothing sinister in it unless he plans on doing so against her will

do some men bully their way into women acquiescing...yes and those are the instances we all should stand up against and many of us who support sex-positive society would do so vocally

when is it ok for men to pursue sex

when is it ok for women to pursue sex

the threat of sexual violence is there whether we say "hello" to big-tittied woman on the bus or not

we on the bus...i stare at your titties...u uncomfy...if i say hello...u uncomfy...if i ask if i could get your motorboat...i mean number...u uncomfy

by your reasoning...there are clearly defined social settings where requests for sex are "non-predatory" lolz

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423. "blame yourself"
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you are being stubborn about something you want to do

that other people dont like


the reasons have been hashed out
endlessly
yet you still want to do it

dont blame me for your stubbornness
i have little to do with it

*puts headphones back on*
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475. "you have yet to counter anything i'm saying with reason though"
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like at all

besides "my pussy aint communal" lol



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481. "those are excuses not reasons"
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you're being stubborn
not reasonable
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483. "i'm not excusing ignorant behavior though"
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you are too defensive to see that i'm questioning your reasoning

there is nothing inherently offensive at approaching a woman in the hopes of later getting laid...

u just seem to think some locations are better than others

u are just wrong as hell basically...i'm not excusing anything

that's your way of saying a behavior that is natural/normal/neutral needs an excuse...it doesn't

men want to get laid...and either attempt to achieve this in a variety of social settings

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533. "arent you?"
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you cant see beyond you wanting to get laid
point blank period

you want to think because you approach nicely
this excuses the imposition
you want to make the imposition smaller than it is
you want to ignore the imposition because it inconveniences you

detailsschmetails
as long as you get laid eh?

its not different
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565. "this is seriously my last time going back and forth with you here"
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first off...are you serious? i'm assuming yes but i can't stress enough that i feel like i'm being trolled

let's review your points:

1. men speaking you opposed to those u deem less attractive to u means he trying to fuck

My reasonable retort:
I'll concede that it's a good chance he's doing so with intent to fuck (nothing wrong with that) and that women react to this in a variety of ways (whether they should or shouldn't - all reactions are ok imo) depending on their views of sex. However, he could have no interest in sex and just like talking to pretty women as practice, lol.

2. the "street" is somehow more dangerous, inappropriate, as every other venue (meat market).

It's not like chicks are going to Buffalo Wild Wings signing holler contracts before they walk in. Chicks go to the club and turn their nose up bc they came to dance. Arbitrarily acting like hollers have some special location is silly and ridiculous. not to mention either approaching women for sex anywhere has the same risks for women. By pretending the street is somehow more of an imposition than anywhere else is hypocritical

3. Approaching women for sex is wrong and shows a sense of entitlement

If you want sex, it's what you do. Attraction is the main reason no matter what venue/approach you prefer. Your pussy aint communal...how would i know that if i don't ask? lol I'm not assuming it is or isn't i'm simply making it clear i would like to know whether it's a possibility. All people are entitled to pursue sex. Unfortunately or fortunately, it's up to us to do so. Being preoccupied with sex isn't a crime and it doesn't harm anyone if that person as some sense of couth

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209. "lol the earth is everyone's to share"
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people uncomfortable talking to strangers should understand that not everyone feels that way and may have the unspeakable horror of random conversation inflicted upon them by other, more outgoing people

the same way i have internalized that if i start talking to someone and they dont want to talk to me i should keep it movin

  

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214. "^ that."
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fuck you.

  

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219. "these men arent even talking to EACH OTHER"
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this isnt random "social" behavior
it's harassment
its targeted and specific

they dont want to talk, say good morning, chat up YOU
not even the nice 70 year old lady sitting next to me
motives are clear and being social has little to do with it
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229. "PREACH!!! lol why isnt it common that men are saying SMILE"
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or hello how u doing to other men?

muthafuckas acting real dense in this post, why? id have to guess sheer boredom

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234. "y'all are speaking way too broadly"
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and simply refuse to separate problematic, disrespectful, rude, dangerous, unwelcomed advances from those that aren't.

we're pushing back against the notion that it's _always_ wrong for men (or anyone) to approach a stranger on the street for any purpose.

those of you who indicate that strangers should never speak to each other in public sound a bit anti-social. we've pointed that out.

it's not a shock that some OKPs have various social phobias and anxieties. not at all.

fuck you.

  

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268. "we're disconnecting here : unwelcomed advances"
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extremely subjective thing i guess, any kinda contact can be unwelcome depending on the perosn, ur stating what we should reasonably expect in a planet of 7 billion for someone else to talk to us in public from time to time fine, im stating and seems that trace is as well that if that contact has an objective beyond saying hello its not welcome

as in a hollar or someone trying to push religious doctrine down my throat

its pretty clear cut yet ur making it way more, i get why the str8 men are taking this stance, confused by u co-sign tho

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272. "k."
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fuck you.

  

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308. "i started to reply to u like that but decided to sure u bit more "
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respect, ill take it what i wrote shut u up tho

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311. "great."
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fuck you.

  

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320. "men acknowledge other men in public ALL THE TIME"
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whether its a headnod, or a "what's good?", men speak to each other on the street all the time.

Shit, more than women acknowledge other women, it seems

  

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612. "when's the last time u felt phsically threatened cuz u didnt respond?"
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does it feel predatory, *usually?

  

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664. "do u say "smile" to other men?"
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690. "no, but i don't say that to ANYONE i don't know"
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and if i wanted my friends to smile I'd say something funny

  

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231. "then i kindly direct you to #192"
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242. "is being dense a choice?"
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you just made her point

she is TRYING to associate with a better class of humanity
random strangers trying to get at her pussy
is not a better class of humanity
unless thats what you think a better class of humanity is
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252. "then its time to decide what you mean"
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because no matter who you surround yourself with, strangers will talk to you

so is it the talking or the person talking?

  

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271. "why dont men say hello and SMILE(?) to other men?"
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that question hasnt been answered

u and sowhat are really rallying against an argument thats not even being really made

altho i maintain just existing in public place is not an invitation to be spoken to, u can expect it to happen but that doesnt mean u invited it or welcome it

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280. "we. do."
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i do the headnod w/other black men fairly regularly. it used to happen on my college campus most often. now it happens in court.

in my (limited) experience, we do it in spaces where we're the extreme minority. where we tend to be overlooked by non-blacks. it's a 'Hey, I see you' nod.

it also happens randomly w/other men who don't want to fuck me. i dunno why those guys do it but i tend to acknowledge it. i dunno what they're saying to me but it doesn't feel like a sexual advance. i just nod and keep it moving. or i ignore it and keep it moving. either way, i'm not harmed at all. sometimes, if i'm having a bad day or a bad moment or whatever i may be perturbed by it. but i know that's about me and my problem(s), it's not about them.

fuck you.

  

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"o dear God, i asked do men ask other men to SMILE?"


  

          

im not talking bout a head nod, otherwise i would have said that

if ghey men say smile to another man its with the same invasive intent as when str8 men say it to women

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304. "okay."
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fuck you.

  

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318. "well different opinions then, i find that very annoying"
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its no one's job duty or right to tell me when to smile, me walking out of of my home onto the street with a scowl on my face or not does not give anyone an invitation to say shit to me

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323. "awesome."
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fuck you.

  

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333. "lastword"
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prototype

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343. "<--- winner."
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fuck you.

  

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385. "no"
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prototype

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331. "you should have mace'd those Sirens"
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you're lucky you didnt end up somewhere assed out with a belly full of peach cobbler and a head full of interesting stories from a bygone era

  

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356. "LOL"
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fuck you.

  

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284. "get em sir"
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they really acting like they are amiable and social with each other
exchanging numbers for cups of tea later
but women are supposed to be open to this crap?
they need to gtfoh with this
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289. "lol i do...ive got top-notch friend game actually"
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303. "well if ur telling other men to smile u prolly been called a fag more"
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times than i have

but i applaud ur courage and unique stand if its accurate

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315. "i would never say that to a man or woman i didnt know"
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thus is the crux of my involvement in this post.

complaining about assholes being assholes is a futile and worthless exercise.

its got nothing to do with what i may say to a lady that catches my eye in a public place, and i would guess that goes for many (probably not most and certainly not all) people here.

if the OP had been about how much she hates rude dickheads she would have gotten a few cosigns and this would be on the 4th page.

but proclaiming outlandish blanket rules for individuals in an allegedly advanced civilization, ie MEN SHALL NOT ENGAGE UNACQUAINTED WOMEN IN PUBLIC, is a ridiculous thing to say and an even more ridiculous thing to actually believe.

  

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327. "ok just cause a lady catches ur eye doesnt give u the right"
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to talk to her or bother her, the smile thing was in the OP so uve been off topic or this hasnt applied to u for some quite while in this post

prototype

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337. "but it does and that IS the point"
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when we walk out of our homes there is an implied permission for other human beings to engage us on at least a superficial level. just as those others have a responsibility to recognize when their company is not desired.

if "hi, im chris" bothers someone that much, "outside" isnt the place for them

and that IS the point, because a majority of social interaction doesnt contain that much condescension and patronizing. throwing the baby out with the bathwater is the entire point

  

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384. "lol bull, i guess there is an implied persmission to be robbed or"
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shot or stabbed or have garbage thrown out at u or be spit on or be arrested or some to curse u out (speech just like saying hello, see!!!), these are the things that can also be associated with being "outside"

a bird shitting on u, u stepping in dog do, getting caught in a downpour, getting pushed by someone in a hurry

all which u have given "implied permission" and all i would also wager to be unwelcome, ha back to my original point

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390. "and how is any of that comparable to "hi im chris"?"
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not only is all of that universally considered to be an invasion of space, much of it is actually illegal

either you are lost in the land of devils advocacy or you should glue your feet to the floor. because if you actually believe that, you are about to spin right off the earth's surface

  

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566. "feminist rage reasoning skills"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

Building repetoires (c) spm since 1983

  

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466. "Lmao holy shyt"
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273. "i mean what i say"
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and its both


its pretty simple to wrap you head around the fact that a person doesn't want to talk to you
when they have headphones on and is reading a book


its basic
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277. "^^^^"
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prototype

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307. "clear signals of intentional isolation fall under purview of #209"
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but then again, some fully functional people may inquire as to your thoughts on their favorite book or author.

the OP made no distinction and neither did you in the beginning

but im sure you will introduce a random variable to squeeze a little more juice out of whatever convoluted point it is you're trying to make.

no one who has agreed with me in this post thinks its ok for people to be shitty to each other. but there only recently are a respectful and polite approach and assholia being separated and judged independently, which is how we ended up 250 replies into this nonsense.

  

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321. "that convoluted #209 you mean?"
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that post that can be read as a free for all
one persons polite is another persons hollahollaholla?


you keep going though
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342. "hey i was right lol...recognizing signals is still recognizing signals"
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verbal or otherwise

we both know this but i also understand that you have dug your heels in way too deep to get out now so it is what it is

  

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371. "nah my pussy isn't communal"
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its that simple
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393. "215"
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240. "RE: lol the earth is everyone's to share"
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i mean
yeah

it's public domain
doesn't make it acceptable
but it should make it expectable

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210. "^^^"
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217. "please don't agree with that idiot."
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"Give a woman the moon, bitch will want another moon to go with it"

(C) My Nigga Randall

  

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221. "says the moron"
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237. "are u speaking of literal speaking or the holler?"
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because i think one should feel enabled to speak to others in passing

& u all know i've got a tatter'd feminazi card somewheres around here

but women have an obligation to one another
how we need men to intercede when shit gets like that out in public & address such men?
we've got to work on curbin {young} women frum findin goin up to a man's car or respondin to a "yo, bitch" or a "AY AY AY" as acceptable &/or appropriate

to add
alot of what i deem ratid fetid bullshit is a matin ritual amongst some

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279. "i live in NY"
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>because i think one should feel enabled to speak to others in
>passing


you would not believe how many people feel enabled to speak to a person with headphones on
reading a book

=\

it really is a cut that shit out moment

especially when there is a person next to you sans headphones, book
and looking pretty damn open to talk

its basically rude
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328. "maybe u look safe..."
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or interested in something other than nonsense

now i'm NOT takin the anti/devil's advocate side

i'm just sayin that sometimes a hello is just a hello

u've got dating "experts" who encourage men to approach reading & listening women as a means to strike up convo

ur law of averages livin in NYC have got to be the worst on the planet

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408. "i do"
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>or interested in something other than nonsense
>
>now i'm NOT takin the anti/devil's advocate side
>
>i'm just sayin that sometimes a hello is just a hello
>
>u've got dating "experts" who encourage men to approach
>reading & listening women as a means to strike up convo
>
>ur law of averages livin in NYC have got to be the worst on
>the planet



i KNOW i do
you are correct
i'm an appealing looking individual
(like you not playing devils advocate i'm absolutely not tooting my horn here)
i'm a chubby black woman with curly hair
this sends all sorts of friendly interesting nice speaks spanish kind polite mannerly signals to the world
i fit all sorts of lets ask her, talk to her criteria

that the person sitting RIGHT NEXT TO ME does not

mind you i dont explode in person
i raise my eyebrow
i pointedly remove my headphone
give them the moment of my time
and sometimes they have the decency to look sheepish at their discernment process
and sometimes not so much

but its a limited amount of time for this
and old ladies and men and esp foreigners with 'bad' english always get a pass
(for some reason i look like i can understand heavy accents...and oddly i actually do)
everyone else though
grrr
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461. "HOW DARE YOU BE ATTRACTIVE?"
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What? I'm supposed to excercise self control?

WHY?

Nature says my parts fit in your parts.

Are you against nature?

"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
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195. "This post should just read I'm anti-social and not comfortable being"
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Approached by men in the street

I get what u saying

But all men ain't harassing ass rapist

And all women dont mind being approached by men

theres no in between

No grey

But it wouldn't have went poastb otherwise

imma go on and leave before the lifetime channel horror stories start poppin


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201. "says the antisocial ass"
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claw just being friendly dude

you should inbox him

dont be so antisocial
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212. "Purple mountains"
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218. "#18"
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203. "Word. I hit all chicks w/ the howsitgoin' head nod at this point.."
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*looks away with lips pursed*
no bullshit.

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224. "Ok, I have some issues with this. "
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I dont think that men should stop approaching women. I think that what you are describing are bad approaches and lack of etiquette.

My issue with this notion that hollering is just flat out wrong is that it makes for a lot of unhappy people.


Case in point: San Francisco. This is the town where the men have backed off and nobody hollers at all and I see/have heard that its frustrating for some women.

Be correct, have respect but its easy to have the pendulum swing too far back and then you will have nobody fucking.


When you get down to it, it seems like there are NO APPROPRIATE TIMES EVER to meet a woman.

in the bar? nope, she out having drinks with friends, cant a woman have a drink with friends?

at the club? eww, nope, cant a woman just dance with her friends and have a fun night out?

in a neutral situation? no way, how dare you with your dirty hands and filthy mind talk to women at this function?


on the street? NO WAY.


i get being disrespected and feeling unsafe, but it seems like there are no actual welcome places where it is ok for a man to approach a woman....there is a whole industry based around this shit.


>stop it.
>
>stop asking women where they men at
>
>stop calling women over to talk to you while you're sitting in
>your car
>
>stop telling them to smile (word to t.lynn faz -
>http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_majg4g5JyX1r1kx42o1_500.jpg)
>
>stop interrupting them when theyre on the phone, listening to
>music, reading a book or otherwise preoccupied
>
>stop pressing when she tells you she's not interested
>
>don't continue trying to talk to her after it's clear she's
>ignoring you
>
>stop thinking that 'damn baby you got a fat ass' is a
>compliment
>
>when she turns you down, don't call her a bitch and tell her
>she ain't that cute anyway
>
>stop feeling like we owe you time or conversation
>
>if she snaps at you, don't blame her
>
>stop hollering at women on the street.
>
>just fucking stop it.
>tell your sons/cousins/uncles/friends/etc to stop it, too.
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225. "*Looks Around*"
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*Leaves*

"Jerome's in the house, I said Jerome's in the ha ha ha ha watch your mouth."

  

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233. "*releases a lone tear which gently cascades down my left cheek*"
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235. "lol...that was funny"
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244. "LOL!"
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fuck you.

  

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316. "hehe"
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Me and the Missus http://www.flickr.com/photos/richieearl/

  

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329. "Jerome at work"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqxgOXrorzE&sns=em

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Amritsar
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490. "oh shit "
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239. "My best relationships have started that way"
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A man who doesn't know how to properly talk to someone isn't going to do it properly on the street, or at an office party, or when a friend introduces you, etc. And the social situation doesn't necessarily mean the guy is more interested in your personality.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the venue of the holler is still important because it may add an aspect of uncomfortableness for you. I also understand that as a man, I don't know exactly what that feels like.

However, you also have to understand that you may not know exactly what it's like as a man, knowing that unless you initiate the conversation you'll never have a chance.

I live in NYC. I see beautiful women all day. I see other guys coming with disrespectful hollers all the time. Because of this, I never felt like I should go up to a girl and start talking after she's dealt with that all day. 9 guys just pissed her off, and I'm gonna try to be the unique #10 good guy, like she's gonna give me a chance? Nope. So I wouldn't do it. And of course, wouldn't get the girl.

Then I stopped letting assholes determine what my actions would be. I politely sat down next to a beautiful Dominican on the train and talked about the book she was reading. Something most would say never do. She was flattered, and I got her number. Turns out most guys don't talk to her because she looks good so they assume guys must have been hollering at her all day, like I used to think.

Both sides should be respectful. The guy should be understanding that the girl may feel vulnerable on the street and chill when she says to. The girl should also understand that the guy put himself out there in a vulnerable position trying to holler, so decline politely.

The street holler is a risky one. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But it has much better odds than letting the girl walk by and hope that one day you'll see her again in a different situation.

  

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263. "so... as soon as you enter the building, coffee shop or subway.."
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station I can holla, holla, holla???

Not sure how many women agree with this "no holla in street" code but it's a sure way to stay lonely as fuck.

bitter broads are the worst... I get the yo ma, shortie, baby baby baby... but "hello, how are you?" gets the arghhhh fuck off?

Oprah done fucked y'alls head up...

  

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247. "oh also--"
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there will come a time when men will stop hollering at you on the street (or anywhere else for that matter)

all you have to do....is wait

  

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257. "i plan on killing myself when men dont look at me anymore."
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248. "pardon my laziness.iont wanna read this clusterfuck, but i got a questio..."
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are the ladies saying they don't want to be talked to EVER

or just disrespectfully?

if a guy says "hey, how are you?"

we don't like that?

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253. "never on the street, w/o regard for politeness."
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that's the post.

get in where you fit in.

fuck you.

  

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254. "weird. "
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258. "they frustrated. "
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fuck you.

  

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264. "iono. i even appreciated a lil brazilian man calling me huge"
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full quote "in brazil, we LOVE huge women!!"

...

smh.

i was all =(

but still kinda =)

maybe i'm in the wrong here


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286. "that's not what *i* said"
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and that's not what i read some other women saying either...
*shrug*

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291. "267. i personally dont want to be approached on the street, period."
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_mesg&forum=4&topic_id=11564670&mesg_id=11565415&page=

>>267. i personally dont want to be approached on the street, period.<<
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it's in the post title, but apparently the 'on the street' part is being glossed over
i guess i didnt make it clear/stress that enough & it got lost in other discussions

but im seriously talking about being approached on the street.

for me, (and im only speaking for me, which i also thought was clear, but let me stress it again), i cannot stand to be approached on the street, whether the approacher is being a dickhead or 'polite' or not.
i believe that being approached on the street--literally, on the street, while im on the sidewalk, walking my way to someplace--

there are some horrible, harassing things that happen on a street between men and women.
the street, to me, is a totally different environment than a bar, or a mall, or a bookstore, or whatever.
it's more volatile and dehumanizing in my opinion.

as such, if i was president, it'd be illegal to approach a woman on the street--LITERALLY on the street--no matter if she's being called a queen or a bitch with a fat ass.

there are more appropriate places to do it rather than the street.
this is a big part of my argument, if not the biggest part,
but this convo became respectful hollers vs street harassment.
my bad for lettin it go there.

fuck you.

  

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306. "yeah i saw that, but nayaa was asking the ladies (plural)"
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so i was pointing out that i and others on here were NOT saying that.

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309. "uh huh."
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fuck you.

  

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256. "u can "hey beautiful" me to the grave..."
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but i am also a leo

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262. "theyre saying a man shouldnt talk to a woman--"
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if he wants to have s*x with her

lfresh finds that predatory and creepy

you should only talk to women to "get to know them"....

whatever the fu*k that means

  

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267. "i personally dont want to be approached on the street, period."
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it's in the post title, but apparently the 'on the street' part is being glossed over
i guess i didnt make it clear/stress that enough & it got lost in other discussions

but im seriously talking about being approached on the street.

for me, (and im only speaking for me, which i also thought was clear, but let me stress it again), i cannot stand to be approached on the street, whether the approacher is being a dickhead or 'polite' or not.
i believe that being approached on the street--literally, on the street, while im on the sidewalk, walking my way to someplace--

there are some horrible, harassing things that happen on a street between men and women.
the street, to me, is a totally different environment than a bar, or a mall, or a bookstore, or whatever.
it's more volatile and dehumanizing in my opinion.

as such, if i was president, it'd be illegal to approach a woman on the street--LITERALLY on the street--no matter if she's being called a queen or a bitch with a fat ass.

there are more appropriate places to do it rather than the street.
this is a big part of my argument, if not the biggest part,
but this convo became respectful hollers vs street harassment.
my bad for lettin it go there.
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270. "iont think there's a right or wrong answer"
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and you're completely allowed to not want to be approached

fuck what anyone else says

okp is the worst sometimes.

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295. "The key word is "she""
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>and you're completely allowed to not want to be approached
>
>fuck what anyone else says
>
>okp is the worst sometimes.

She says it's never OK for anyone to holla in the street.

  

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299. "hows okp the worst--"
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look at how she phrased the original post

on some teach your sons this BS

  

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274. "what fucking streets are you walking down? "
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You live in Baghdad?

Drive yo car....

  

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290. "oh i have horror stories"
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being followed home from the bus stop when i was 12 years old
being blocked in by a car that cut me off at the pass and would not let me pass by him until i talked to him
and i know too many other women with similar stories, and many are way worse than anything ive experienced

this shit happens on the STREET, not at church or grocery stores

it's clear that some people, especially men, really don't know what it's like.
women who are paranoid about being approached on the street likely have good reason.
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421. "i don't like being approached on the street at all"
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if someone approaches me and all they have to go on is how i look, 9.8/10, its not gonna work out.


  

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488. "what.the.hell.else do they have to go off of?"
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If not your looks if they see you on the street?

Apparently for some people, even seeing you with a book and inquiring about THAT as an ice breaker is a no-no...

If you have and ass like a Atlanta stripper sans injections au natural...

...and a complexion that is as brown and smooth as a bar of rich dark chocolate imported from Switzerland...

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570. "lol"
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thats the point

you don't know the first thing about me and you want my number. what have i done to earn you wanting to talk to me and vice versa?

  

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266. "What about at a church?"
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Truths run marathons.

  

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275. "ON THE STREET, GUYS. ON THE STREET."
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THIS POST IS ABOUT HOLLERING AT WOMEN *ON THE STREET*.

THIS POST IS NOT ABOUT WHAT CONSTITUTES STREET HARASSMENT VS WHAT CONSTITUTES A POLITE ADVANCE FROM A YOUNG INVESTMENT BANKER WHO WANTS TO TAKE YOU HOME TO MEET HIS MOTHER

BECAUSE IT DOESNT MATTER

I DONT LIKE BEING APPROACHED ON THE STREET BY ANYONE

BEIN APPROACHED ON THE STREET IS VERY DIFFERENT, IN MY OPINION, FROM BEING APPROACHED OTHER PLACES

THIS IS A VERY BIG AND IMPORTANT PART OF THIS WHOLE SHIT AND I SHOULD HAVE STRESSED THAT BETTER lawdamercy


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283. "but you are applying your preference as if every woman "
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has that very same preference and while some do...some dont

u saying you hate street hollers

to saying men should NEVER street holler is a jump you've made based on your shitty street holler experience

why fuck up everyone else's?

one of my long-term relationships came off a street holler, lol

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305. "i never claimed to be speaking for all women"
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i didn't say "men, we womenfolk hate it when you approach us on the street.'

>u saying you hate street hollers
>
>to saying men should NEVER street holler is a jump you've made
>based on your shitty street holler experience

i hate street hollers, and as such, i think men should stop hollering at women on the street.

i dont make anybody's rules, im not speaking for anyone else
im giving my own opinion, which is shaped by personal experience, as many things are

>why fuck up everyone else's?

nobody who came in this post is now leaving with a changed mind
im venting and opinionating which i think happens here a lot, no?

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335. "why women when you are only one woman?"
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u double-talking

if you hate and and woman b like it...why would u want all men to stop doing it to all women?

just wear a shirt that says "No Hollers Please"

i mean...i get the vent but you dont get how you simply reciting a chief keef lyric is different than saying "it is not appropriate"

there's some cognitive dissonance here

you are deeming what you find offensive as something that basically should offend other women by saying where you prefer to be hollered at as "appropriate"

i'm not even gonna address the silly shit lfresh is on

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340. "if men stop street hollas then all women are impacted."
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but she's not speaking for all women.

?

it's cool. this is just venting. lol

fuck you.

  

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355. "im not speaking for all women in that"
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i am not saying that all women hate being approached on the street.

im not speaking on behalf of anyone but myself. i figured that was understood.
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358. "okay."
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fuck you.

  

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387. "RE: why women when you are only one woman?"
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>u double-talking
>
>if you hate and and woman b like it...why would u want all men
>to stop doing it to all women?

mkay so it appears that my decision to hit the A key as opposed to the E key has made it seem that im speaking for every woman. as a feminist/womanist, i wouldnt dare.
this is largely a vent, though. vents are based on emotion, and as such, i didn't proof this to make sure my logos, ethos, and pathos were all fitting well in a perfect orgy of rhetoric.
i could have said 'men stop approaching me on the street,' but i didn't. poetic license.

women vs woman & all this aside, vent or not, my argument is still the same.
the street is not an appropriate place to approach a woman. there are plenty other, more appropriate places for that. in my opinion.

>just wear a shirt that says "No Hollers Please"
>
>i mean...i get the vent but you dont get how you simply
>reciting a chief keef lyric is different than saying "it is
>not appropriate"

i dont know who chief keef is, so

>you are deeming what you find offensive as something that
>basically should offend other women by saying where you prefer
>to be hollered at as "appropriate"
>

this wasn't my intent.
i find street hollers inappropriate; clearly, every woman is different and i really didn't figure that'd need to be said. my bad for not acknowledging that.

  

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555. "I hate it too so now we're a plural. i especially hate it in"
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weird scenarios like me walking my dog alone at night
or when i'm on the phone and walking somewhere. In that case it's just rude as hell regardless of the stranger. And you're right, most men 'hollerin' on the street dont want anything productive. And a holla is completely different from a passerby saying hello or good evening. You can almost sense when it's about to become a holla gone wrong versus someone just being pleasant.

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287. "that doesn't change my stance whatsoever."
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thanks for clarifying.

fuck you.

  

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292. "no prob! i wasnt trying to change your mind, just stressing that "
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bc it's important, imo
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302. "important to you... "
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not the next chick who lives on a beautiful street with beautiful people and birds chirping.

Just because you attract the worst doesn't mean the next chick is...

..and when you were 12? What the fuck.

Sounds like a TV movie.

  

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312. "cool."
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fuck you.

  

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"LOL"


  

          

prototype

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believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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293. "DONT TALK TO ME AT THE OFFICE--"
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WHEN I HAVE MY EARBUDS IN

I DONT CARE IF YOU NEED SOMETHING FROM ME URGENTLY

ITS MY WORLD AND YOU SHOULD DO WHAT I WANT



....i mean sense we venting abt sh*t that aint really gonna happen


  

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SoWhat
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322. "many of these ppl ARE anti-social at the office, btw."
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make a post complaining about coworkers making 'small talk' and see who lines up to agree. then compare it to who's saying what in here.

LOL.

fuck you.

  

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339. "omg im finna hitdog"
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im absolutely not antisocial!
im not a 'these people!'

not wanting to talk to certain people at a certain time in a certain mood doesnt = not wanting/being able to talk to someone EVER

this is a very specific situation
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346. "sure."
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Thu Sep-27-12 03:33 PM by SoWhat

  

          

if you say so. i dunno.

but i'd expect several of those in here agreeing w/you to line up in agreement w/that post i proposed.

fuck you.

  

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361. "yeah. can we make that post tomorrow?"
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368. "it's been made numerous times and it's always popular."
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LOL

see also: posts complaining about ppl asking 'How are you?' when they don't care how you are. and other signs of misanthropy and anti-social disorders.

fuck you.

  

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380. "LOL...tooooooo funny and true"
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424. "boundaries folks"
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its very simple

you can say hello

do i want to know your kids have pneumonia
you have an std
your husband/wife is leaving you and wants alimony
your in-law is a harridan
you're depressed
you hate your neighbors, coworkers, boss

i'm not a therapist
you can call it antisocial
when really its over sharing, an imposition and flat out rude

which is what you all are confusing regarding appropriate and inappropriate social behavior
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334. "lmao what a horrible comparison"
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281. "http://boubize.blogspot.com/2011/08/ninja-glimpse.html"
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http://boubize.blogspot.com/2011/08/ninja-glimpse.html

  

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d.
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285. "fellas, you're walking down the street. a woman avoids making eye contac..."
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e.g. you're looking at her for 10 seconds as you pass by each other on the sidewalk.
she either never looks at you or only gives a quick glance and then looks away.
no smile. no sort of body language indicating that she wants to talk to you


do you still holla?


if so, do you realize there's a good chance that you're annoying her? do you even care?


I've posted about how I hate when I see a Black woman look down when she
walks past a random Black man on the street (and tons of women on okp
agreed that this is common). that's just one example of how our behavior
has an unintentional negative impact on women. I doubt n*ggas will up
their empathy quotient any time soon tho.

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297. "nghs should be used to everybody they pass avoiding eye contact"
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i remember this one dude almost fell on his face trying not to make eye contact with me
and i aint even threatening

  

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300. "I can't stand when women do this^^^^"
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I understand and respect the reason for it, but I just don't like to see people walk down the street looking mean.

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313. "RE: fellas, you're walking down the street. a woman avoids making eye co..."
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>e.g. you're looking at her for 10 seconds as you pass by each
>other on the sidewalk.
>she either never looks at you or only gives a quick glance and
>then looks away.
>no smile. no sort of body language indicating that she wants
>to talk to you
>
>
>do you still holla?

no...i might speak as in "hello" and keep it moving...unless i'm doing a social experiment of some sort which was common at one point in my life

>
>if so, do you realize there's a good chance that you're
>annoying her? do you even care?
>

yes i know...and i care to a certain extent...if i'm annoying her...my holler will fail and i'll keep it moving...means either i misread something or she's just not open to my/any holler...i'll apologize for disturbing her and KIM

>I've posted about how I hate when I see a Black woman look
>down when she
>walks past a random Black man on the street (and tons of women
>on okp
>agreed that this is common). that's just one example of how
>our behavior
>has an unintentional negative impact on women. I doubt n*ggas
>will up
>their empathy quotient any time soon tho.

i care...but sometimes it's innocent...i may not even try to "book" her so to speak but want to see if she's open to chatting or if she's as interesting as she is attractive...or maybe she just has on an extremely provocative outfit lol

i'll be respectfully bold and find out if that's what i feel like doing...i won't know until i try in most cases...not doing so doesn't change what she's already been through or will go through...

i typically only do it when we are moving in the same direction or at the same bus stop or somewhere at rest rather than passing her by and stopping her mid-stride

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344. "when black women give me the bigscaryblackguy treatment"
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I understand it, but I immediately say "fuck'em".

  

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296. "I agree with you if you literally mean the street... to do so one.."
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litterally has to stop you from going wherever you may be going.

Personally, I was thrown off by you mentioning not interrupting a woman from "reading a book", which to me that implies that the woman is stationary (if not sitting down) for a period of time, thus making it far less rude in my opinion.

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310. "i read a post somewhere about exactly that"
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this girl was basically saying that she'd be riding the train with a book
and dudes always come up to her like 'whatcha reading'
to which she'd just politely she wasn't interested
and some of em would get mad

but one night she was riding and some normal looking dude kept harassing her
til she finally made it clear
then he starts hitting the walls of the train
and mumbling to himself about his dead mother
luckily he got off at a stop before her

so basically what i'm saying is, i dont really blame Trace

  

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317. "Yeah I get it, but there aren't many opportunities for people..."
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to meet outside the public. Not everyone goes to clubs, not everyone goes to bars. So if you're on the subway and you see a nice looking woman sitting down reading a book, that's a great opportunity to spark a conversation. It's only an issue if the woman doesn't find the man attractive.

I don't think men should be discouraged by idiots.

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332. "i get that"
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>I don't think men should be discouraged by idiots.

i'm just saying have to go in taking all that into account.

  

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338. "agree"
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416. "but you forgot the part where she did talk to a guy"
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suited up who AFTER THE FACT said the effect of, I would have handled that for you...



but because he was suited up, he was cool...



the dudes who she DID ignore however, didn't deserve her time



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330. "yeah, i literally meant on the street."
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of course, inappropriate approaching is never ever okay, in any situation

but there are appropriate ways to approach a woman.

my personal opinion is that the street is never a good place for that, appropriate or no

re: the book reading, iono. maybe she's on a bench or on a bus stop or something.
i was being illustrative.
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336. "I agree with you. I have approached a woman on a bus stop.."
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though. And it went very well.

So yeah, I don't think you should stop anyone from where they're going, but if they are sitting down on a bench or something, I don't see anything wrong with that. Having a conversation while waiting is a great way to kill time. Even if you're not actually interested in the person.

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350. "its more rude"
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>litterally has to stop you from going wherever you may be
>going.
>
>Personally, I was thrown off by you mentioning not
>interrupting a woman from "reading a book", which to me that
>implies that the woman is stationary (if not sitting down) for
>a period of time, thus making it far less rude in my opinion.

The assumption being that your designs on my time are more important that what i choose to do with my time.

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359. "you can say that about any scenario though... c'mon."
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if you're in a supermarket you focus is food..

Church, your focus is GOD,

Work, your focus is work

McDonalds, your focus is nuggets.

At some point, if you want to meet someone, you will be interrupted from what you intended to do with that particular time.

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372. "and its rude"
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go to a club
go to match.com
go to a church social
go to a party


its not like there isn't a plethora of place to meet people wh are clearly there for the same reason

so when you are outside of those clearly defined social circumstances
to understand and be humble about taking the time from someone else's day
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375. "not every woman that goes to a party wants to be approached.."
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either.

Sometimes (a LOT of times) they just came to drink and dance with their girls.

So the bottom line is that a man will NEVER know if/when it is okay. So he has to take his shot based on his own instinct, period.

And unfortunately women will just have to suck it up and deal with it or stay in the house. It's really that simple.

You want to be able to pick and choose but you can't. It's beyond your control. The same way a man can't control a woman's reaction to his approach no matter how sincere he thinks it may be.

Such is life.

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410. "the difference is"
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you aren't entitled to my time

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484. "this makes no sense in relation to his response"
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he's basically bodied your theory and instead you come with a meaningless tangent

feeling entitled isn't a crime...and approaching doesn't mean entitlement exists...

stop being stupid

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505. "thank you. I didn't even know how to respond to that."
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529. "actually it does"
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>feeling entitled isn't a crime...and approaching doesn't mean
>entitlement exists...


and step one is admitting you are entitled
which you did
you just dont want to feel bad about it
cant help you with that
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559. "If I'm preoccupied it's not only unwelcome, but extremely rude!"
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people should be able to pick up on body language and know when a person wants to be engaged and when they do not. If I'm ready or on my phone, I clearly do not want to be engaged. my body language will turn inward to actually discourage being bothered. Now folks are just being silly for silly's sake.


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567. "we're not being honest now..."
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Let's be real. The average woman in a public setting is not going to make it "obvious" that she's open to be engaged, because to be fair she really ISN'T open to be engaged until the right person comes along in the right way. Until then the defense wall is up, just as a method of protection.

So please, let's not act as if the average woman will give some sort of blatant signal that it's okay to approach. Even the best man will have to work for the conversation.

In a perfect world, a woman would look the man she interested in dead in his eye and raise up a bright green flag to say "YES, IT'S OKAY TO TALK TO ME". But that's just not reality.

So men will continue to take their chances.

I remember a time when I was in NY and a woman was on the train writing and I asked her what she was writing, which led to a conversation, and we ended up dating. She told me later that "no, that wasn't the first time a man asked her what she was writing on the train, but she was interested in me too so she entertained it that time".

So again, you don't know until you try.

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597. "I see this as being on the subway"
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I live in NYC and I read a book on the subway because it's really the only time I have to do it. I even hate seeing people I know on the train for fear they'll want to talk, preventing me from getting in my chapters. I don't want your holla then because, well, I'm busy. I might not want to talk, period. That's one of the reasons I bring reading material on the train or an airplane -- to prevent strangers from talking to me. Most people get the clue. Some can't help themselves and they're annoying.

To label me antisocial would be incorrect because I'm quite the opposite personality, but I'm allowed to decide when, where, and under what circumstances I'd like to interact with people. Since I can't very well broadcast that today is Don't Talk to Nakia Day, I'll adopt what ought to be clear context clues: avoiding eye contact, reading, ear buds in...

That's why the inclusion of "while I'm reading" is important. It's not on the street technically, but it's in transit... in a space where I've indicated via context that I'm not available to chat.

Now were we at a bar or introduced by mutual friends at a BBQ, whatever, I'm certain that context would reveal me as being open to communication and therefore, holla.

  

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598. "and while you feel that way.."
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there's another women who wished some guy she saw out the corner of her eye would have seen through that and felt compelled enough to bypass that guard and say "hello".

I'm not disregarding how you feel personally. I'm just saying that everyone isn't the same and every situation isn't the same.

See my example in reply #567 right above yours. I've experienced this very thing. In my example I didn't get ANY sort of rhythm from the woman, but decided to take a shot anyway... and she appreciated it.

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607. "You're arguing a point that I never made"
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So I guess you win by default?
I didn't say everyone feels like I do, but a lot of people do. Anyway, if I were the only person on earth who felt like this, that still entitles me to say so and I would expect that these courteous, complimentary men would also respect those wishes... since they're so well-meaning and all.

  

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627. "My point is that people don't know how you really feel.."
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until they speak to you. Just because you give off a certain vibe that doesn't mean that will be how you react to a guy if he's nice to you. And that's why guys make the attempt. It's been proven (maybe not with you directly but in general). Sometimes guys feel that they can brighten your day. A lot of times they're wrong, but sometimes, they're right. That's really it.

I feel that I'm starting to become redundant so it's probably time for me to bow out.

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633. "Cheers to the nice guys"
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that's so great of you all to be nice. But guess what, just like not everyone is going to react the same way to a holla on the street, not every man is going to react the same way to having his holla rebuffed.

I very much get your point. It's plain to see. I don't think you're understanding me although I feel I'm being very plain and clear here. I never said everyone feels the same way. I don't expect men to be mind readers. I'm sharing my thoughts and feelings on the matter, supporting Trace so that folks know it's not just her out here having these problems. That for everyone who loves what you say to her on the street there's someone who doesn't and BOTH types of people are entitled to feel that way. More importantly, some of the women who like it might be fakin the funk just to make it go easier on them as women in this thread have admitted.

It's not just that people give compliments on the street or try to talk to you while you're reading your book... it's that when you say you're give a head nod and KIM, say you're not interested or just flat out ignore, you're subject to ACTUAL THREATS and INSULTS. You don't know when it's coming either. That whole situation is fraught with anxiety and unknowns. It's hella uncomfortable. So for me at least, I just try to avoid it all out. I don't need to feel that trepidation in the first place. it's not fair.

  

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639. "Fine, but what you seem to be avoiding is that the point of..."
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the OP is that because of these things men should just leave women alone altogether (on the street, while reading, etc etc)

I don't disagree with you, personally. Women should not be subject to ignorant responses to their rejection of a man's approach. Yes, you're right.

I just don't believe that because of some women's anxiety about the POSSIBILITY of said response, men should stop approaching altogether. No, men should just stop responding like jerks when they're rejected.

That's my whole point of mentioning that all women aren't the same. The original post is saying that men should stop altogether but not all women feel that way.

So with regard to YOUR point, yes, men should respect your wishes, but they don't know what your wishes are until you tell them, which requires them to attempt to get to know you.

And with that, I think I'm really done.

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644. "Nah"
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I wasn't avoiding that point, I was just making my own.

  

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345. "*applauds until my hand go numb*"
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347. "Misanthropy FTW"
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360. "hello."
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fuck you.

  

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369. "not wanting to be approached in a specific situation = misanthropy?! "
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come oooon! let's act like humans are complex enough for this to not be true

bc i dont want to be bothered by anyone when im walking to the store or down an empty street in the hood, im antisocial and mistrustful of everybody all the time everywhere?!

lol please explain this to me like im 2.

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381. "not all men talking to you in the street want anything more than"
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convo.

I get it. YOU hate being approached in public places by men, because of your reasons.

Trying to extrapolate that to any type of universal rule is fuckery of the highest order, though.

And, it's actually offensive as hell, too. Because of your issues, you're devaluing MY being, and the being of anybody who has the GALL to try and strike up a convo with you on the street, AND the people who have the conversations with them, male or female.

YOU don't like male, human interaction in the place that all humans in an urban environment will be at the most.

Again, and this really should go without saying, none of this applies to Jack the Pussysnatching Asshole. Or the Ay Bitch AY! guy, because fuck them dudes, that's why.


  

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398. "^^^^^^^"
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>convo.
>
>I get it. YOU hate being approached in public places by men,
>because of your reasons.
>
>Trying to extrapolate that to any type of universal rule is
>fuckery of the highest order, though.
>
>And, it's actually offensive as hell, too. Because of your
>issues, you're devaluing MY being, and the being of anybody
>who has the GALL to try and strike up a convo with you on the
>street, AND the people who have the conversations with them,
>male or female.
>
>YOU don't like male, human interaction in the place that all
>humans in an urban environment will be at the most.
>
>Again, and this really should go without saying, none of this
>applies to Jack the Pussysnatching Asshole. Or the Ay Bitch
>AY! guy, because fuck them dudes, that's why.
>
>
>

  

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409. "in some cases there should be an inequality in favor of the oppressed"
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>Trying to extrapolate that to any type of universal rule is
>fuckery of the highest order, though.
>
>And, it's actually offensive as hell, too. Because of your
>issues, you're devaluing MY being, and the being of anybody
>who has the GALL to try and strike up a convo with you on the
>street, AND the people who have the conversations with them,
>male or female


until the situation is rectified and women can walk down the street
or sit on the train etc. etc. without fear of being harassed,
then men just have to deal with it

as I said in a similar post

"in this scenario, we should not just strive to make women feel
comfortable, but we should even make ourselves feel slightly
uncomfortable in favor of women."

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414. "here's where that goes off the rails: not every woman - hell most"
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women - don't feel that ALL interaction with men on the street is oppressive.

Plus, that shit isn't even remotely actionable.

I get the fact that this culture is sexist and misogynistic and all that.

But men like women. And some women like them back.

Looking at a NECESSARY human interaction (because we kinda need men and women to get together, y'know) through a lens of oppression is throwing the baby and the tub out with the bathwater. Are some components of heterosexual interactions fucked up and sexist? Sure. But not ALL of them.

Plus, ain't Trace in NYC? A megalopolis dehumanizes EVERYBODY, lol.

  

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474. "RE: not all men talking to you in the street want anything more than"
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>convo.

Riiiiiight. So they're striking up random conversations with passing men too huh? Asking them to smile more?

I think Trace is too absolute as well (probably because she's venting and addressing all the nuances would take walls of text), but let's not act like we're talking about situations with no sexual charge at all.

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542. "you ain't never struck up a conversation with somebody just cuz?"
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male or female? Like at a bookstore, or farmer's market, or at a bus stop?

And, like I said before, dudes talk with other unknown dudes all the time. More than I see women be cordial with other unknown women.

I mean, yeah, of course there's gonna be some sexual charge between men and women when we communicate, because we're men and women.

Ain't nothing wrong with that, at all. We're here for each other.

Now, do some cats go outta pocket with it? Sure.

But fuck if I should feel that my speaking to someone who happens to have a vagina on the street is an assault on my part.


  

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686. "Not completely out of the blue, no."
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There has to be something that makes me think we share a common interest in something (browsing the same section at a bookstore for example), or something has to happen to be able to relate to each other (bumping into each other by accident, standing in the same long ass line at some counter). Just seeing someone walk down the street is not such a thing, and I think that's what some of the women in this post are complaining about.

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351. "got damn this blew up."
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366. "I was just thinkin this"
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like shit all I did was go to one meeting and this shit went POAST

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374. "perfect ingredients tho"
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its a genderwarz post
plus
niggas caping trying to get okfee brownie points
plus
angry lifetime movie fantasies
plus some hot interracial bickering in the middle
AND
lawyers lawyering
AND
dudes who would never street holla in a grillion years (cuz well they're scared of women)
justifying it as savage behavior vs live niggas who do numbers outchea

with a dash of

DAT PATRIARCHY

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415. "and SoWhat being in top form today"
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gotdamn

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378. "that explains the CLOSED sign on that box."
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383. "you'll miss it when it doesnt happen anymore"
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*stir stir stir*

  

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420. "this is what I want them to respond to "
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429. "i don't miss it AT ALL"
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i get kisses and horn honks and shit like that. that works for me cuz i don't have to acknowledge it but i still get the ego boost, lol.

  

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599. "WRONG"
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Fri Sep-28-12 02:25 PM by Novembersgift

  

          

I'm quite sure that I would not be unhappy were this to all out stop.
I, for one, don't rely on street hollas to get validation that I'm a beautiful, whole, worthy person.

Furthermore, street hollas don't even tell you that you're beautiful, whole, or worthy. They just tell you some nigga is thirsty. Or that you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Or that somebody was trying to show off for their friends. Or that it's summer. Or it's Tuesday.

  

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388. "This is LITERALLY"
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one of thee dumbest,

serious

posts I've ever seen.

  

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399. "It's really just the shotgun method, which is a waste of time"
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Women get bombarded with disrespectful street hollers so most of em look at you like a creep when you approach.

I save that "cold holler" for the club or bar so we can both save face if things don't work out lol...

On the street, though... I'll hit'em with some brief, contextual chit chat about wherever we're at and keep it moving. If it's a place we both frequent, hopefully we'll meet again and build a little more next time we run into each other... if I never see her again, oh well, there's always another one.

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402. "such a sad post"
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i've let posts like these and real life discussions somewhat alter how interact/talk to women on the street

probably missed out on meeting some quality people due to that.

i'm going to start saying "hi/good morning" more now after reading this.

  

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405. "^^^^"
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444. "man, no shit."
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i stopped hollering at all these days because i let all of this shit get to my brain

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404. "WAUUUW...this post is nuts!! There's NOTHING wrong with a"
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nice hello....

i don't care WHERE it is....

nothing is wrong with it.

now there are things on the Kamela ass "don't say this shit to me in the street" list that I DO agree with...but that is regarding respect.
When u approach me....i'll respond positively IF you are respectful...

but for the most part...u can usually tell what a person's intent is from the nonverbals
the way he looks at u...(ok..if he looks creepy...keep goin)

but if it's a genuine smile....

a "hello, you look nice today"
"smile lady...it's okay"

some of these HONESTLY have made my day


and it's OKAY....


shit...



EVERYBODY AIN'T RAPEY......

  

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407. "The OP post is like the Romney campaign"
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Tells you everything the other party is doing is wrong
Says most people in that party are scum and you dont want their votes anyway
Doesnt offer any plan or solution or amicable argument.

Just paint your sideburns grey trace

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411. "This post is outstanding... I only disagree with the generaliztion"
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that every street "hello, how are you" may turn into a holler, or
perceived as one, but I'm not a woman so my opinion is biased.

I find it disappointing only because I like to believe that any
encounter may be a great opportunity. But I must admit, over the
years I find myself being a little more distant from the sister
passing by because of that perception. I went from always saying hello,
to only saying hello with eye contact, to just walking by... unless
it's an older woman(50+).

I wonder how you view street chivalry tho... should he hold the door
for you? or allow you on or off the elevator first? If you have a flat
tire waiting for you in the parking lot, can he help you? If he did none
of these things, how would you view him?

*
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418. "."
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Thu Sep-27-12 05:32 PM by NotScared2Ask

  

          

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431. "RE: This post is outstanding... I only disagree with the generaliztion"
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>I wonder how you view street chivalry tho... should he hold
>the door
>for you? or allow you on or off the elevator first? If you
>have a flat
>tire waiting for you in the parking lot, can he help you? If
>he did none
>of these things, how would you view him?

Of course you shouldnt do those things!

you're only doing it cause you want to have sex!

.....is what lFresh would say

  

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479. "^^ all this. plus chicks Initiate with me so.... n/m"
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419. "Yet y'all wonder why white women keep win---nvm... "
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430. "Harlow project is seeking particpants to discuss street harassment"
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http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/harlow-project-seeking-participants-for-street-harassment-web-video-series#


for those in here that apparently need to get some thangs off they chest on the topic



http://www.harlowproject.com/



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432. "Stop walking so far outside the damn kitchen"
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434. "lmao"
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463. "lol"
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433. "WHAT YOU DESCRIBING IS HOLLA'ING AT A CHICK ON THE TRAIN"
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on the train its improper because she cant walk away, she's basically held captive and everyone is watching

but trying to talk to a chick on the street is fine, she can ignore you and/or walk away

frankly its not as big as you are making it Trace

  

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436. "train hollas are not improper foh"
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this is nyc nigga

plus u gotta be a real live nigga to even attempt a train holla
cuz that shit is like showtime at the apollo
get shot down a lil dominican kid in the back of the car
gonna hit u with a nelson muntz "haha"

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674. "LOL!!!! this nigga said nelson muntz!"
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>this is nyc nigga
>
>plus u gotta be a real live nigga to even attempt a train
>holla
>cuz that shit is like showtime at the apollo
>get shot down a lil dominican kid in the back of the car
>gonna hit u with a nelson muntz "haha"

  

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440. "lol"
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shakin your block with a 6 million dollar bop

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441. "btw: why ima die alone pt.2. "
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shakin your block with a 6 million dollar bop

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Bruce Belafonte
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465. "bathicallyyyyyyyy!"
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http://youtu.be/5o37GORoKUQ

#htpw

  

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Radio Rahim
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443. "Shit. I holla in public like a G. Professional niggas always win"
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__________________________
Duke, Knicks, Yankess, Giants, UGA, Rangers

Binlahab droppin science on the youth

"youre frustrated now? in undergrad? reading books all day?,
surrounded by more nubile unattached pussy than you will be in your life?"

  

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445. "This is a tricky one..."
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I mean, I can see how this works on both ends...

Sorta like~
Guy sees 100 dollar bill on ground & wants to try and pick it up,
the risk is he might get his hand slapped by the person who dropped it.
He COULD get mad about it, but in reality, it wasn't HIS money in the
first place.

Then it's like~
Girl sees pesky Jehovah's witness coming her way because she "looks" like
the type that needs Jesus. This is the 50th time she's had to deal with
then and is tired of being polite, she would rather just be left alone.

It's an interesting paradox that shows just how different our sexes really are.
There are plenty of times I've been totally pleasant with a rude woman,
and her friends laughed about it, thought it was funny, and didn't check
her attitude. It's "socially acceptable" for women be be nasty toward
men they don't know I assume.

However, as an after-thought, these girl know good and well their friend
was dead wrong, but won't say it to them or me. Just give me props for
NOT BEING disrespectful; as if a person deserves credit for it? It
really doesn't matter how you approach these things, personality
disorders will always trump "what's really going on" or deep thought.

There's no sympathy to be had for either side, the rejected male or
the low tolerance female. Both are a product of "miscommunication", and
because neither cares about the others perspective on some real
"f*ck-yo-fellins" type sh*t, the dissatisfaction will continue.

As we all know, a few women are fine with it, others aren't. The basic
idea is that people are different. One persons trash is anothers treasure and cliche-line after cliche-line you've already heard before. :}

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I was like "How's ya shot group?"
She was like "Oh it's good, I'm tight!"
So I was like "I wanna see dem pretty tattoos!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S74K5jx1oB4
http://twitter.com/streetPoet007

  

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TLynnFaz
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446. "I agree with Trace."
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on everything.

  

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448. "*cashes out*"
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449. "lfresh hates men. "
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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480. "i would have to consider you a man to hate you though"
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"I wish you happiness ma'am."


          

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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618. "#569"
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450. "trace doing flora numbers "
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*golf claps*



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452. "I really didn't expect this post to blow up like this."
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and for her point to be debated so hotly.


Hmph.



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643. "i keep looking at the reply number increasing like O_o"
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http://twitter.com/malael

  

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atruhead
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455. "Me and SoWhat are laughing at you breeders (he's the bottom, though)"
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456. "I took pics of some of them in Philly"
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>stop telling them to smile (word to t.lynn faz -
>http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_majg4g5JyX1r1kx42o1_500.jpg)

http://livefromphilly.tumblr.com/post/32317579464

http://livefromphilly.tumblr.com/post/32317558024

http://livefromphilly.tumblr.com/post/32317542920

http://livefromphilly.tumblr.com/post/32317517700

http://livefromphilly.tumblr.com/post/32317497117

  

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462. "I was really hoping you meant you photographed street hollers."
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"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
"Once upon a time, little need existed for making the distinction between a nigga and a black—at least not in this country, the place where niggas were invented" -- Donnell A

  

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478. "those are AWESOME tlynn"
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495. "SMH--"
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such a waste of energy

  

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TLynnFaz
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531. "clearly. "
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>such a waste of energy

  

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FireBrand
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560. "omg"
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"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
"Once upon a time, little need existed for making the distinction between a nigga and a black—at least not in this country, the place where niggas were invented" -- Donnell A

  

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510. "*likes*"
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fuck you.

  

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634. "Folks are sharing these around Tumblr like crazy"
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Why? Because it speaks volumes.

  

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Bruce Belafonte
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464. "fells stop paying attention to these old bitter damaged "
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dusty twat having broads.

http://youtu.be/5o37GORoKUQ

#htpw

  

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467. "RE: stop hollering at women on the street."
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sike

Steady Plexin'

  

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DaHeathenOne76
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485. "The male privilege voiced in this post is ASTOUNDING n/m"
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<---Niece and Nephew

  

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487. "^"
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i mean i give a fck but i don't give that much of a fck

  

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491. "the female double standards--"
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and entitled attitudes are even worse

  

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atruhead
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500. "it has to be boredom, fantasizing and stunting rolled together"
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shit was wrong (but more understood due to the element) when I went to Freaknik and Miami Memorial Day

while I cant completely clap to Trace's idea (and I think single/lonely/looking women are way open to being approached respectably), dudes in here are fighting for the right to make women uncomfortable

  

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501. "they just don't get it, they are saying no just put up with it"
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486. "*makes an appearance*"
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493. "oh i'd annoy the sh*t outta you--"
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if i saw you on the street

  

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497. "*looks across the street*"
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*puts copy of Rich Dad Poor Dad in my Hermas briefcase*

*slowly and casually walks across the street glancing at my Panarai watch as if I am running late for a meeting*

*align my path to cross with hers, and loosen the grip on my briefcase and slowly open the latch*

*allow the briefcase to brush up against her, thus knocking it out of my hands and opening on the ground, as I look up from my watch apologetically, as the contents of the briefcase ( the Book, an unopened pack of Magnums, some Manila folders bound together with a deadline stamp marked for today's date, a loose paper containing a non reactive HIV test, my backup Hermas red "power tie", Bentley key fob starter (its broken and my boy had it replaced and let me hold this one down for scene setting, and photo of a beautiful black and japanese toddler which I, if inquired, will claim as my child that was taken from me by his mother in a complex custody battle fueled by her father who is a wealthy hedge fund manager and venture capitalist in Tokyo with deep Yakuza ties )*


Me: I'm so sorry ma'am, I am in a rush and I apologize (said while picking up items and not making eye contact)

*slowly looks up and smiles*

Me: are you okay? (dramatic pause) my God you are gorgeous! (second pause) my apologies, that was rude of me...




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676. "I like it!"
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489. "ARCHIVE"
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511. "AGREED......the levels in here...on every limb is outstanding"
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492. "I think you living in KY has something to do with this."
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and you having to deal with a bunch of no game having ass bammas still wearing Jersey's too sizes two large.

This post reminds me of the mom from my neighborhood listserv who wanted to ban the ice cream truck from coming down our street because she doesn't want her children to ask for ice cream. Everyone else on the list was like why you want to deny everyone else ice cream because you can't say no to your children?



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496. "5 hunna."
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499. "What about at a block party, Trace? WHAT DO WE DO? "
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503. "What about a street fair? "
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504. "Say we are at a parade? "
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506. "What if we find ourselves in Bunol for Tomatina?"
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507. "Can we mingle at Mardi Gras?"
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508. "Can we raconteur on a river walk?"
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509. "What do you do at 4th Street Live?"
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679. "THIS IS ALL WRONG, WRONG YOU MONSTER!!"
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BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL STREET SCENES!!

WHICH IS ALL WRONG!!!

WTF? SOMEONE CALL SVU ON THIS ASSHOLE!!!

  

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Trace
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512. "this post is telling of lots of things."
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namely that men don't understand what this phenomenon is like.

and that's okay.
you can't understand a reality that you don't have to live.

if you ever have a chance to listen to a woman talk about her unpleasant experiences, i hope that you'll listen. like, genuinely listen.

http://www.stopstreetharassment.org/
http://www.aclu.org/blog/womens-rights/hey-baby-enduring-street-harassment
http://howmanywomen.tumblr.com/
http://www.streetharassmentproject.org/
http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2012/06/hey-there-pretty-lady-how-street-harassment-affected-my-body-image-and-how-i-overcame-it/
http://www.brokeymcpoverty.com/2010/10/hollahollaholla/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/dcs-fight-against-street-harassment/2011/07/24/gIQAJSfe8I_story.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/soraya-chemaly/are-you-tired-of-street-h_b_1031032.html

ps - it's not just me.


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513. "there is an ocean between all of that and what you are extolling"
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"Catcalls, sexually explicit comments, sexist remarks, groping, leering, stalking, public masturbation, and assault. Most women (more than 80% worldwide) and LGBQT folks will face gender-based street harassment at some point in their life. Street harassment limits people's mobility and access to public spaces. It is a form of gender violence and it's a human rights violation. It needs to stop."


Vs


Trace: Don't talk to women in public.

  

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519. "agreed."
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fuck you.

  

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TLynnFaz
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522. "I think the point is that"
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because she experiences shit like this:

>"Catcalls, sexually explicit comments, sexist remarks,
>groping, leering, stalking, public masturbation, and assault."

SO frequently - like, multiple times a day, that she's just completely over being spoken to at all on the street.
and that's totally understandable.

if you're being harassed by a certain group of people on a daily basis in a certain setting, then there might be a day when you're like, you know what? fuck it. in this setting, from this group of people, i just don't wanna be approached at all.
will that actually happen? no.
but for a lot of the posters in here to not understand why she feels that way, and tell her she's ridiculous and dumb for her request...

i mean, pretty much this post is full of unsympathetic dudes. which makes sense. ya'll don't go through it, so you wouldn't get it.
but she's tryin to explain somethin to ya'll and this is just kinda one of those times where ya'll should check your privilege, have a seat and listen.



  

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527. "you're right. At the same time, I think the post would have gone.."
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somewhat different if it was more, "Men, stop hollering at ME on the street". Some of the responses may have been similar, but because she approached it like a new rule that all men should follow with regard to all women, it blew up.

Whenever you take a position of representing an entire group, things can go bad very quickly.

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538. "i can accept this."
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>Whenever you take a position of representing an entire group, things can go bad very quickly.

again, that wasn't my intent.

i don't think that's the reason for some of the out of pocket responses in here, but i can jive with that.
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539. "yup."
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fuck you.

  

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537. "hello."
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>because she experiences shit like this:
>
>>"Catcalls, sexually explicit comments, sexist remarks,
>>groping, leering, stalking, public masturbation, and
>assault."
>
>SO frequently - like, multiple times a day, that she's just
>completely over being spoken to at all on the street.
>and that's totally understandable.
>
>if you're being harassed by a certain group of people on a
>daily basis in a certain setting, then there might be a day
>when you're like, you know what? fuck it. in this setting,
>from this group of people, i just don't wanna be approached at
>all.
>will that actually happen? no.
>but for a lot of the posters in here to not understand why she
>feels that way, and tell her she's ridiculous and dumb for her
>request...
>
>i mean, pretty much this post is full of unsympathetic dudes.
>which makes sense. ya'll don't go through it, so you wouldn't
>get it.
>but she's tryin to explain somethin to ya'll and this is just
>kinda one of those times where ya'll should check your
>privilege, have a seat and listen.
>
>
>
>


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514. "men generally understand that harrassment exists."
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I just think that the general consensus is that it will not deter men from approaching women respectfully, even if on the street.

You may not like it, but there are other women who do respond well to it.

The point is, you don't know until you try. And to the average man, the mindset is "I don't know when I'll have another opportunity, so I'm going to take my shot now. The worst she can say is no".

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516. "pretty much"
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saying we don't understand and yet they don't pursue men is what's bothering me

when you are responsible for initiating all contact...you inherently take all risk of any wrongdoing...

a lot of niggas is doing it wrong...this makes it harder for respectable cats to do it with as much class as possible...

but closed mouths don't get fed...when you are a man

so you run the risk of imposing, rejection, and so on

i get it...that it happens so often, can be unwanted attention, and so forth and so on...but i every woman is different...i don't approach every woman i'm attracted to...i try and hope that she's open to my approach and hope i've imposed as little as possible if she doesn't

being disrespectful at any venue is fucked up

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523. "say word--"
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good points

  

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518. "hello."
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fuck you.

  

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524. "and that outside this site...women could care less lol...u know how"
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many times i hear

'I mean this dude was looking me all in my face...and he was cute...but he aint even say nothin...I HATE THAT...why do guys do that'




erybody tryin to equivocate it to the thirsty ignant nigga holla which aint nobody, male or female or even bloocollar, in here condoning

  

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526. "LOL...why fam gotta be a subset though?? lol..smh "
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545. "even me fam!"
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544. "knowing something exists vs knowing what it's like."
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two different things. men cannot know what it's like because it does not happen to men.

it's the difference between
'yeah i know there are assholes out there, but how the fuck can you be mad that somebody wants you to smile?!'

and

'i understand that even though my intention is good, my nice gesture might be unwanted right now because i know how it feels to be constantly bombarded and interrupted by unwanted advances, some of which are often violent and harassing. i don't like it when that happens to me, and as such, i wont force any interaction on her.'

>I just think that the general consensus is that it will not
>deter men from approaching women respectfully, even if on the
>street.


>You may not like it, but there are other women who do respond
>well to it.

im not disputing that at all.

>The point is, you don't know until you try. And to the
>average man, the mindset is "I don't know when I'll have
>another opportunity, so I'm going to take my shot now. The
>worst she can say is no".

and if men knew what it's like to constantly be on the receiving end of this on the street, which, again, can be a very hostile, volatile environment for women, especially when walking alone, maybe they'd chill.

the worst yall can hear is no.

the worst we can hear is bitch fuck you then you not that cute anyway you just need some dick come let me fuck that right one time bitch you hear me talkin to you dont make me come over there etc.
and that's just the worst we can *hear*.

it's a often a game of roulette. the street isn't the place for it.

all im saying.

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572. "*i* know what it's like."
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i've been harassed on the street more times than i can recall.

and yet i disagree w/you.

and there are women in here who've been through it who also disagree w/you.

not all of us who experience street harassment believe all street approaches should be curbed b/c some men get lewd, rude, or even violent w/it.

*shrugs*

fuck you.

  

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653. "and not everyone who experiences it would mind if it"
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never happened again.

is this where we agree to disagree yet, or... ?

& im not saying that male privilege is the only reason the some folks don't agree with me.
it definitely plays a huge part in some men's understanding of the phenomenon. & rightly so.


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677. "Jesus the fuck Christ."
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fine.
whatever.
why are y'all still talking about this shit??

fuck you.

  

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576. "let's just leave it at this:"
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You don't like you, you don't want it. There are many other women who agree with you. And all of you are entitled to that.

However, there are other women, some in this very post that have no problem with it.

Because men don't know who is who and who feels what, many will be bold enough to continue to try. That's their choice. And it's unfortunate that some will be disrespectfully aggressive in their attempts.

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515. "the essence of the misunderstanding--"
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holler does not equal harassment

  

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532. "But who decides what harassment is?"
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I'm sure that most people who harass women don't see it like harassment either.

Keep that in mind.

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540. "sucks don't it?"
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oh well.

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541. "oh harrassment is in the eye of the beholder--"
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my manager has been harrassing the sh*t out of me for this stupid project

but he'd probably call that "doing his job"

  

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517. "street harassment is awful and should end."
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but that doesn't mean that men should stop approaching women on the street.

fuck you.

  

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548. "in my opinion, it absolutely does."
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bad apples have ruined the bunch, and i am over it.

is this where we agree to disagree?
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557. "while i understand your frustration, i completely disagree w/you."
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and i know that what you propose is unreasonable and will never happen.

but i understand the frustration.

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558. "i know it won't happen, too."
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doesn't quell my personal want for it to.


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561. "good luck w/that."
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fuck you.

  

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569. "hey, thanks!"
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i appreciate your genuine wish for me to have good fortune in hoping that this will end!
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571. "*thumbs up*"
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fuck you.

  

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584. "lol i know his concern and attitude is so touching in this post"
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stellar!

prototype

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believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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546. "oh it's a website for every insecurity and dysfunction in the world"
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wikipedia pages too.

http://youtu.be/5o37GORoKUQ

#htpw

  

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549. "*sees you drop your wallet on the street with a bit of cash spilling out..."
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*picks it up & yells out "EXCUSE ME!!"

*gets told off on being approached by ANY DUDE!*

*gets wallet thrown in his face as you storm off* :\

*contemplates using cash in wallet to get him some Popeyes instead*

  

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563. "They're either willfully ignorant or posturing. "
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Neither is worth anyone's time.

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520. "Y'ALL muthafuckas... *facepalm*"
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*returns to the top of Space Mountain*

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521. "the issue is respect"
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stop disrespecting sisters period

  

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525. "i got them moooOOOOOOOooOoOOOOOOooves like Jagger"
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***
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530. "FOH FAM!"
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534. "this post is too deep so i aint read SHIT but the OP, anyways"
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fellas, DO holler at ME on the street if you're fine. fuck all that. IF you are fine, I would like to get to know you betttterrrr
and i aint hollering so one of us has to. k, thx

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535. "This thread is very sad and discouraging"
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@ the OP:

I understand your frustration and displeasure with being approached by men on the street, but regardless of how you feel about it, it will never stop nor should it stop.

I appreciate women who welcome(respectful) approaches from men whether it be in the street or a in any other setting.

I sense that you are still young or youthful and attractive enough to attract a lot of unwanted attention, but there will be a day when said hollerations will dwindle significantly. I disagree with most of your points, but I can agree that harassment should not be tolerated.

As a man, I also have my list of shit that I wish women would stop doing, but I came to terms with the fact that going through bullshit is part of the cost of living in our society. It is what it is.

I do believe that if you want men to change their behavior, then you need to do the same. Venting on a messageboard about this will not help you. Being proactive and letting men in the streets know that you don't like being approached in the street may help you get the results you are seeking.

In all, I can't roll with your sentiments regarding street hollers, but I certainly feel that you have a right to feel how you feel. I am just not going to kowtow to every woman who only accept hollers at her convenience. She just need to learn how to deal with shit like everyone else.

  

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543. "did y'all forget the Black Woman Walking mini-doc?"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp-Eq6QGSfI

folks acting like it's bizarre for women to feel uncomfortable
about random dudes approaching them on the street

really

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552. "This isnt directed @ u personally"
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But, women feeling uncomfortable with receiving random approaches isn't top priority. There are men who feel uncomfortable approaching random women. There are people who receive no hollers, no attention which can be just as stressful, if not more than someone who receives a motherload of hollers and attention. Life in general isn't easy, but we all have to deal with whatever is thrown our way.

  

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550. "fellas, this post is information: use it..."
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if it causes u to re-think or redirect ur approach{es}
those of u who will profess to doin such
then good

if i can't teach an old dog new tricks
time to get a new fuckin dog

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551. "oontz."
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553. "it kinda reminds me of one morning when I was on the train..."
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It was full and a girl had gotten on. She was probably in her early 20's.. I wasn't attracted to her at ALL. Besides, I'm married so it ain't like that.

I got her attention and asked her if she wanted to have my seat.

She looked at me like I was stupid and just shook her head no, real rude like.

I just said okay.

When I got off the train, an old white lady caught up with me and said "you are a very nice man for offering that girl your seat. It's a shame she was so rude to you. I don't know what her problem was".

Sometimes it doesn't matter what you approach is, or if you're even approaching at all. People have their own issues.

I'm not sure if I have offered my seat since then. Maybe once.

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575. "That's happened to me on far too many occasions."
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I've given up those pleasantries.

  

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554. "bull and sh*t--"
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the only info here is stuff we already knew

which is women are beautiful but illogical irrational creatures

  

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579. "It isn't good information though"
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>if it causes u to re-think or redirect ur approach{es}
>those of u who will profess to doin such
>then good
>
>if i can't teach an old dog new tricks
>time to get a new fuckin dog

The OP needs to direct her frustration towards the men in her surroundings who are approaching her, not the men on this site.

I honestly feel that those who agree with the OP are the ones who don't get it nor understand the facts of life. Plus, they are young and it shows. Bottomline is that a reasonably attractive woman will receive unwanted attention. No self respecting man is going to stop doing what works for him just because some women don't like certain types of approaches or any approach. That isn't how things work in the world.

Lastly, I think many men understand the OP's point of view. They just may not agree nor adhere to her requests which is to be expected.

  

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556. "It's too much like right; the menfolk will never "get" it."
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They think it's cute/funny/modusoperandi for the day.


They think we're upset if we don't grin and give the toothiest smile on middle earth.


They think we want someone to interrupt our supposed drole phone conversations, to breathe new life into our until then, boring, hum drum days.


They think it's considerate to inquire upon our marital status.



They think our rears and the rotundness or lack thereof need commentary.



They think a lot of things.



One wonders where they have gathered such ideas...

  

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562. "how about--"
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- we think you're attractive

- we may not see you or have the opportunity to talk to you again

- we know that you won't approach us ever

  

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577. "I feel you but"
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>- we think you're attractive
we can see the sentiment in your eyes; no need to voice it


>- we may not see you or have the opportunity to talk to you
>again
I wanna say "if it's meant to be - you'll cross paths again" but it feels cheesy so I won't. At that point you'd have to have serious discernment skills and a serious indicator that we want to speak to you conversely. But it's rare.


>- we know that you won't approach us ever
Correct.

  

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564. "i feel tired like when i tried to explain white privilege to white folk ..."
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615. "RE: i feel tired like when i tried to explain white privilege to white f..."
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this.

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568. "imma teach my daughter to karate chop niggas in the windpipe"
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fuck all that disrespectful shit

come correct or not @ all


do or die

  

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573. "tell your daughters/cousins/aunts/friends/etc to stop...."
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...you know why niggas continue to holla like that? because that shit works sometimes.

so tell your daughters/cousins/aunts/friends/etc to stop giving in to eak ass hollas and nigas will follow. simple as that.

  

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578. "So if you drop your wallet with cash spillin out then don't holla back?"
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If you leave your cell phone behind, don't run up and say "HEY MISS!!"?

If you leave your purse or keys behind, don't get your attention?

Because this is all harassment right?

GOTCHA!!!

  

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580. "People are talking about it's ok if he's cute"
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But I don't get a chance to see how "cute" you are if it's dark, and I'm walking home alone, and I'm already (rightfully so) on guard for my general safety and security and you're blowing your fucking horn from your car/staring at me/yelling "YO!"

I don't care how cute you are when I'm trying to get from point A to B.

You being cute doesn't mean anything when I don't want to be bothered.

Cute men can be assholes too, you know. Cute doesn't excuse what I feel to be an intrusion upon my peace of mind or a threat to my well-being.

People greatly underestimate the privilege in being able to just go about your business without being intruded upon... no matter the intention of the other person.

  

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582. "it's also a privilege to not be expected to approach men."
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The bottom line is that men and women are different, we have different roles, and different experiences.

I'm not disagreeing with you with regard to your right to be left alone, but unfortunately you can't control people.

Personally, I get tired of being asked for money out on the street. I get tired of the little kids trying to wash my windows with half dirty water at an intersection. But I can't control people so I just deal with it. It's life.

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585. "*slow applause*"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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587. "wait so u wouldnt try to stop those things u dont like?"
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the women in here (well some) are saying they dont like street hollars and want them to stop

u r saying u dont like being asked for change and having ppl offer u street service u dont want ( i feel the same way) and id like it to stop, i recognize that it would be hard to make that happen but does that mean i shouldnt speak out on it?

the just passed a panhandling law here in the city of atlanta, if ppl had just accepted it (dealt with it in ur words) then that shit woulda never came about

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588. "no I wouldn't try to stop it, because I don't know what it....."
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is to be homeless. It's a slight annoyance to me, but I'm comfortable with just saying "no".

With regard to the kids, they could be doing a lot worse than trying to wash somebody's windows.

Again, I'm not in their shoes so I try not to judge them.

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591. "i wonder if the statute provides housing for the homeless"
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and food for the hungry and jobs for the jobless. or if it just provides criminal penalties for those who seek money, food and/or jobs from strangers out of desparation, exasperation, or mental illness.

w/o having read it or anything about the statute, it sounds like horrific NIMBY bullshit. i'm not surprised the ppl in ATL went for it though.

again, best of luck w/that bullshit, ATL. LOL. best of luck.

fuck you.

  

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593. "k"
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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589. "LOL. good luck w/this, ATL:"
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>the just passed a panhandling law here in the city of atlanta,

fuck you.

  

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592. ":-) thanks hun!"
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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621. "no shit, the same dudes have been at northside & 10th BP for yrs"
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602. "control people?"
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Who's trying to control people? I'm just asking to be on some regular shit like you (not *you* personally) get to be whenever you want. If anything, it's more controlling to tell me how to fix my face in the street than for me to wish you'd choke on your fucking teeth while saying it.

  

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623. "my point is that people are going to people."
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if someone finds you or something about you interesting, whether they're the same sex or the opposite sex, they may attempt to speak to you.

That's something that's beyond your control. Just continue to try your best to cope with it. That's really it.

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635. "oh ok"
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So I should just stfu then?

What's your deal, yo? I feel like repeatedly, you're in here telling me (or maybe us in general) that basically, "it is what it is" and therefore we should be quiet about it and let it happen. I'm giving you an opportunity to say that's not what you mean right now...*

I'm in here speaking MY truth and lived experiences which doesn't in any way infringe upon your ability to go holla at 100 people on the street. But you telling me I should just try my best to cope. What you think I been doing? I'm going to be coping when I leave my office to go home tonight and when I go to meet my girls for a drink and when it's time to go home. I been COPING for decades, son.



*(assuming you care. people are gonna be people, right? I don't control you or anything.)

  

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642. "that's because it IS what it is."
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If you feel it should be illegal, speak to your local politician or something. I don't really know what to tell you. But I can tell you that posting hurt on a message board definitely won't help your case.

My intention isn't to be patronizing, but I've already acknowledged that you are entitled to your feelings and that I don't disagree with your right to be respected multiple times. What more do you want from me?

Guys aren't going to stop approaching women. It's just reality until that magical day when paradigm shifts and women in mass numbers start approaching men, so that men don't feel that they have any obligation. That way the women can have more control of where and when the encounters occur. But as long as men are expected to be the pursuers, yes men will pursue, and no, if you're in public you can't control if someone *tries* approach you.

I have nothing against you, I just don't know what else to tell you.

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646. "Um, again, you're arguing a point I never made."
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Not once did I say anything should be illegal. That you can't do xyz. Not once. Please point out where I did and I'll acknowledge that. Nor have I asked you for anything. I've only been sharing my thoughts and experiences to which YOU reply and tell me what to do. I haven't asked guys to stop approaching women nor have I even implied that that would even be a possible or logical course of action. finally, as I've said repeatedly, I haven't tried to exert control over any man in the street or in this post. So I remain utterly confused as to what you are arguing against because it's clearly NOT me.

I'll also say that me "posting hurt on a message board" is and is not supposed to change something. One the one hand, I have low expectations for people who can so easily hide behind their computer screens and love to post for a laugh. I don't come around here much anymore but I'm not the new kid on the block either. I *get* OKP, ok? But I do believe in the power of telling one's story... that sometimes it does get through to people. More importantly, what I say is support for the other women in here who feel similarly and for the ones who lurk too. It doesn't have to change you. But like, you seem bothered by the fact that I even have the gall to speak about it.

  

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647. "I was referring to you saying that I'm implying you should just.."
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stfu and "let it happen". "Let" what happen? This post is about men being directed to not approach women on the street anymore. Is this what you believe you shouldn't just "let happen"? That seems to be the case considering you shared examples of men giving you what they perceived to be compliments.

You shared your experience and I shared mine. In nearly every response to you I've said "you're right", "I don't disagree with you", so on and so forth. But while I agree with many of your points, I still am inclined to mention what the reality of the situation is.

I have no problem with you telling your story, that's your right. I have shared my perspective in response (i.e. me telling you about me giving a compliment to a woman AND a compliment to a man). That's really all there is to it.

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655. "and by the way, your avi is pretty. so there. *pokes tongue out*"
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700. "shut the fuck up."
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590. "Some of yall think you're "hollering" when you're not"
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I see folks trying to make a distinction between a "harmless holla" and harassment. I'm certain that the majority of men who have made me feel uncomfortable with their advances or "hey miss" on the street never thought they were being creepy or harassing. They were trying to holla or maybe not. Maybe they just like saying good morning to people. But that's not all there is to it. There's another person involved -- someone who has been learning to cope/shield against this type of thing since she was a KID. Even Tee said earlier that she talks to men on the street she'd rather not out of straight FEAR. Like WTF kind of shit is that? Every woman -- whether conventionally a "dime", so-called "ugly" or even those who appear gay -- is subject to street harassment because people feel entitled to talk to her on the street.

I really don't feel good when someone is all "you look good in those jeans". Why are you putting me on blast like that? Why objectifying me in public? Can't I just wear my jeans and walk to the subway?
Just yesterday a man on a bike rode by me and said something like "I don't know what you're going for today but whatever it is you're doing it right. I just had to say something to you." Ok. On the Holla Spectrum that's not the most egregious and most people would consider that a simple compliment. But I'm just wondering why he *HAD* to say something. Like really? You just couldn't KIM? You were utterly COMPELLED to say what was going on in your head at that moment.

Almost never, in my entire life, has a street holla resulted in me friending, fucking, or entering a relationship with someone. I can count on one hand how many dates came out of street hollas. Just because it works for you in some cases doesn't mean it will always work, in fact, that might be why you fail to comprehend how unwelcome this truly can be... you're only looking at your experience and not listening to the swelling chorus of women standing up and saying no.

Like, WHY would we be saying this if it wasn't true? If I secretly loved when people talked to me on the street every damned day, why would I say the opposite?

The fact that people can sweep aside the real concerns of a large group of women is further evidence of the privilege you enjoy or the system of privilege and patriarchy that you're complicit in upholding.

  

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594. "so wait:"
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just the other morning, I saw a woman with a beautiful pink (or some bright variation of pink) blazer on while I was walking to work. We were going in opposite directions.

As we passed, I smiled and said "that color looks great on you". She smiled very nicely and said "thank you". I don't even think either of us stopped walking or even slowed down for the short exchange. Both of us respectively just kept it moving.

So in your mind, I shouldn't have said anything to her?

For her, that one compliment could have made her day.

How does anyone know? I'm just being nice!

I understand the ROOT of where you're coming from, but it's a sad state of affairs if we've gotten to a point where we can't even be nice to each other.

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595. "ain't it?"
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fuck you.

  

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601. "did you read what she wrote?"
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a lot of women, self included, respond with politeness out of fear. we don't want to ignore or say "please leave me alone" out of fear of escalating the situation.

we don't know you're intent and we're not interested in it. the point is that we don't have the time or energy to assess and discern the intent of every man who "compliments" us when so many use it as an entry to be creepy, engage in harassment, or simply annoy us.

you all don't get it. from a very young age, most women are taught to be on guard around men AND taught that if something happens to you, it's our fault. this stuff too is wrapped up into street harassment and women not wanting to respond to dudes who "compliment" us on the street.

  

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603. "EVERYONE AIN'T YOU!! A lot of women appreciate it!!"
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Stop acting as if everyone is as closed off and traumatized as you are!!

Cot damn!

It was 8:00 in the morning in a business area and I'm passing by with a dress shirt, slacks, and a Whole Foods bag. That woman ain't feel NO KIND of threatened. Miss me with that victim talk, please!

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608. "smh. you have no perspective."
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613. "if you don't believe that it's okay to be nice, I'm sorry."
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I don't agree with you, and there's really nothing I can say to that.

There's NOTHING wrong with what I said to that woman in that moment, and it was OBVIOUS that she didn't think so either.

Like I said, everyone isn't you. It's sad that you would conclude something negative from something so very positive. But again, there isn't much I can say to that. It's just sad.

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619. "sigh. i didn't say any of that."
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622. "this is what you said:"
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"a lot of women, self included, respond with politeness out of fear. we don't want to ignore or say "please leave me alone" out of fear of escalating the situation.

we don't know you're intent and we're not interested in it. the point is that we don't have the time or energy to assess and discern the intent of every man who "compliments" us when so many use it as an entry to be creepy, engage in harassment, or simply annoy us."



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628. "right, and my point is that even though the woman responded "
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to you in kind, it does not mean she didn't feel threatened or annoyed by you. what i'm saying is that you can't assume your intent is the same as the woman you're speaking to or that she (any woman) is picking up on your good intent.

my point is that you have to keep in mind the multiple ways your compliment might be perceived. so just because you think you're being nice/complimentary does not mean the recipient believes the same.

that's why i said you have no perspective. i'm not saying this woman in your example felt threatened or had any negative feelings in that moment, but i think it's wrong to strongly assume with conviction that she didn't. neither of us knows what was really going through her mind.

just like how people of color modify their speech and behavior in work environments with white folk, women do the same when being approached by men while walking down the street.

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you cannot take this discussion that personal. even though you may be a nice or believe yourself to be such, other women in the street have no idea about the quality of your character. this is why i said above that we are not going to assess your intent when we are trying to get from point A to B without being disrespected, creeped out, annoyed, or threatened. it's similar in discussion of race when white people say "well, i'm not racist" or "my family never owned slaves." proclaiming your quality of character does not negate that this a problem among a demographic that you are apart of, which in this case is men talking to women on the street.

i'm in no way trying to be snarky in this reply.

  

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632. "so what is the conclusion??"
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should men give compliments or not?

The way your talking it seems safe to assume that you agree that it's best that men don't say anything, and if so, my initial response stands.

But if that isn't the case, what's you point of saying any of that??

The bottom line for me is that I'm confident that I'm just being nice. So if the woman takes it another way for any reason, fakes a smile, fakes appreciation, so on and so forth.. that's HER issue, not mine. I'm going to keep it moving regardless.

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cgonz00cc
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620. "lol"
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MiQL
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625. "How do we know they appreciate it, though?"
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They only real solution I can glean from this post is from the OP.
Leave them alone.
Women say "thank you," but how do you know she really means thank you?
She smiles, but how do you know if it's genuine?
It could all be a means to minimize any friction or anxiety you may have due to rejecting your compliment.
If you take it to the snark side, it could be:

-'Did I ask for your compliment?'
-'Why does your compliment matter?'
- and other comments I've seen floating on tumblr

Being nice, though well-intentioned, can be perceived as potential harassment based on her prior experience.




  

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665. "why u typing in all caps?"
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more aggresive behavior

prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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672. "moment of frustration. "
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605. "Women want to be left alone in public places."
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Is that the correct assessment here?

>a lot of women, self included, respond with politeness out of
>fear. we don't want to ignore or say "please leave me alone"
>out of fear of escalating the situation.
>
>we don't know you're intent and we're not interested in it.
>the point is that we don't have the time or energy to assess
>and discern the intent of every man who "compliments" us when
>so many use it as an entry to be creepy, engage in harassment,
>or simply annoy us.
>
>you all don't get it. from a very young age, most women are
>taught to be on guard around men AND taught that if something
>happens to you, it's our fault. this stuff too is wrapped up
>into street harassment and women not wanting to respond to
>dudes who "compliment" us on the street.

  

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Novembersgift
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604. "RE: so wait:"
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>just the other morning, I saw a woman with a beautiful pink
>(or some bright variation of pink) blazer on while I was
>walking to work. We were going in opposite directions.
>
>As we passed, I smiled and said "that color looks great on
>you". She smiled very nicely and said "thank you". I don't
>even think either of us stopped walking or even slowed down
>for the short exchange. Both of us respectively just kept it
>moving.
>
>So in your mind, I shouldn't have said anything to her?

Um, no. I have no idea how that woman may have felt. I'm just asking you to imagine a situation in which a woman may feel less than flattered by your compliment. Make room for the fact that we are entitled to voice our feelings about it, which is exactly what I did in my post.

>For her, that one compliment could have made her day.
>
>How does anyone know? I'm just being nice!

Okay. That's cool for you. I wasn't offended by his words. He didn't seem particularly threatening to me as it was 8am and he didn't leer or smack his lips or whatever. But in my example, the main point was that dude felt he HAD to say something like he has no control over how or when he speaks to people. I included that story to illustrate that there's a sense of privilege and ownership among a lot of men. Like dude who HAD to grab that woman's ass in a WalMart. You know... he just HAD to do it.

>I understand the ROOT of where you're coming from, but it's a
>sad state of affairs if we've gotten to a point where we can't
>even be nice to each other.

Isn't it though? It is sad. Very. I'm single. I like men. But more often than not, I'd rather cross the street than to deal with them because experience since I was EIGHT years old tells me that many men think they can say or do whatever they want to me because of their intentions, their entitlement, their privilege. It's not anything I think I can fight, just like I don't think I can really fight racism or end violence against women, or end hunger. But I do think it's something I get to say whether or not I'll accept. You don't have to "get it" to get it. Yahmean?

  

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609. "Yeah I get what you're saying. And it's very unfortunate."
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At the same time I understand where that particular guy was coming from. Hell, I give compliment to men too. Because in my mind, if I'm thinking something nice, I just HAVE to say it. Otherwise, in a twisted way I feel like I'm hating on you, like "yeah, I'm thinking something nice but I don't want to tell you".

I gave a guy a compliment on his car at a gas station once. It was a red camaro or something with big rims. He hopped out and I like was like "dude, your car is sick". He was like "Thanks yo! My boys give me a hard time cause it's red but I like it! lol" I'm like "no doubt, no doubt". So he actually felt somewhat validated by my compliment.

So contrary to the belief of some earlier in the post, men do talk to other men too. I'll give a dude a compliment on his suit or shoes in a minute. That's just me. If I'm thinking something nice, it seems that the person derserves to hear it. In hindsight, maybe it is selfish to assume that someone actually wants to hear what I have to say. But hey, that's the chance I take.

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596. "the very first hurt that i remember as a child was watching/hearing men"
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shout lewd comments/hollas at my mother.

i knew, even then, instinctively, that it was inappropriate and it devalued who she was as a woman, as my father's wife and as my mother.

even more, watching that (all too familiar now) humiliated look on her face as she tried to pretend not to hear them, hurt me for her.

i genuinely don't think that men understand that even though they are just words that are intended to be compliments, they can have deep and long lasting effects, and in a very essential way shape who we become as women.

  

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600. "yeesh."
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***
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606. "i don't think anybody here is saying rude fuckery don't happen"
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and some cats are outta pocket.

I think the confusion/pushback comes from the idea of the total removal of male/female interaction in public places.

I'm supposed to close myself off to 51% of the population in public places because some of them feel that there is *no* way that the two genders can interact without me being oppressive.

I don't agree, and I actually think that's a mildly insane idea born outta PTSD.

I understand how fucked up it is to be approached by people who aggressively holler. But not everybody is wired, or acts, the same.

  

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611. "Not even the OP said that all public places were out of bounds"
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and Trace clarified her statement several times throughout the thread to indicate that she didn't mean all public places. So why folks are continuing to argue that point is like... *points gun at head*

  

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616. "you may not agree, but can you understand why a woman"
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would prefer or want all men on the street from approaching her?

do i agree with trace? no. if a dude doesn't come off menacing, disrespectful, cruel, creepy, threatening or intimidating with his approach, i'm fine with it. however, given that i have experienced some truly frightening experiences with men on the street and in public, i can definitely understand why some women, like trace, would prefer men to not approach them on the street at all. because of the frequency and intensity of these experiences, i don't blame any woman who wants all men to stop approaching them on the street or even in public. there's a very real, palpable fear out here for a lot of women.

  

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640. "yes. I completely understand it.. TOTALLY"
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I've had some friends who caught hell walking around downtown ATL, and I've seen how fucked up it is. Hell, I've dealt with the ramifications of how fucked up it is.

My thing is, don't hold ME to a standard created by your extremely negative experiences, and resulting psychosis - and that shit IS a psychosis (but we all crazy anyway).

Don't get me wrong, I understand very very well how outta pocket dudes can be on the street. I'm a dude, so I got some distance from it, but we ARE human and we CAN empathize/understand

I just think there needs to be a more honest discussion about gender roles and politics, and I KNOW wishing the world of enpenised people in the street just didn't acknowledge you at all is terribly TERRIBLY unhealthy (what happens when somebody with that idea has a child? What are men, in theory, to their son or daughter? How distrustful of manhood, in general that is...and let's be real, it's almost certainly BLACK manhood)

A dude that speaks to you on the street could just be a country mufucka with home training.

I ain't even mad at woman who subscribe to that postulate at all.

I'm more sad for them, than anything.

I'm just not gonna front like the implications of that aren't unhealthy.


  

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651. "there's church here but it'll get buried"
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>My thing is, don't hold ME to a standard created by your
>extremely negative experiences, and resulting psychosis - and
>that shit IS a psychosis (but we all crazy anyway).
>
>Don't get me wrong, I understand very very well how outta
>pocket dudes can be on the street. I'm a dude, so I got some
>distance from it, but we ARE human and we CAN
>empathize/understand
>

>A dude that speaks to you on the street could just be a
>country mufucka with home training.
>

*********************
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610. "I put up a Men Can Stop Rape Street Harassment Link...."
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..none of the men looked at it. I get Trace's point. If you live in a major city, you see the danger of being crowded, having your personal boundaries ignored and all of that.

I get that she may have rubbed some folks the wrong way in the presentation of it, but some of you all turned into some goddamn savages over this.

OKP is some different ass niggas for real.

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617. "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7zsG3XFUd8"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7zsG3XFUd8



let's make it to a thousand!

  

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626. "Just holla like this Stingray did *link*."
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/28/article-2209779-1540DCF9000005DC-157_636x435.jpg

  

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629. "1988 - 2000 Crenshaw Blvd is laughin at yo ass"
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Melrose and Sunset laughin now

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630. "you have ANY idea how many *survey hollas* u just inspired?!?"
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657. "SON. DONT SPOIL THE SURPRISE"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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631. "I love how this post has boiled down to..."
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HER: Please stop approaching me unsolicited on the street. It makes me acutely uncomfortable and I don't respond well to it.

HIM: SHUT UP YOU KNOW YOU LOVE IT YOU UGLY TRAMP HOLLER HOLLER HOLLER oh God i'm just so lonely living in my mother's guest room and working the night shift at Arby's HOLLER HOLLER

  

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636. "smh"
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***
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638. "When you point out people's privilege they get real defensive"
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Because no one wants to be told that they're exerting privilege and power over others, at least not directly.

You really don't want to hear that all of your nice guy, well-intentioned, just-wanna-get-to-know-you, compliments and such could be ill-received. That your words might be adding to the burden a woman is bearing, not alleviating it. That people who smile at you could be using that smile as a mask to hide their frustration and fear.

No one wants to hear that.

So instead of just saying "yeah, that does seem to happen sometimes as evidenced by your testimony right here and right now", they want to call out all the exceptions they can think of, shame you, call you names, pathologize you as anti-social, PTSD, traumatized, vindictive, lonely, "playing the victim", etc. Silence you. Pile on.

All the while failing to recognize that acknowledging the experiences of others doesn't mean accepting blame for your own actions.

Sometimes it's hard to tell when OKPs are just being contrary for the sake of lulz and shit or if they're really as fucked up as they seem. If it's the latter, I can say I legit feel worse about men speaking to me in the street than I did before today.

  

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649. "lol"
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how many dudes have actually said anything like that?

there's a few posts i saw saying she doesn't look good enough to have to worry about it, but the majority of the arguments are that not every social interaction between men and women in a public space (ON THE STREET I KNOW I KNOW) should be considered wrong/offensive

  

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650. "just... damn shut up... "
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666. "LMAO yes"
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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681. "no."
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“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

  

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teeme
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637. "i know no one is going to see this but..."
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>
>stop asking women where they men at
>
>stop calling women over to talk to you while you're sitting in
>your car
>
>stop telling them to smile (word to t.lynn faz -
>http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_majg4g5JyX1r1kx42o1_500.jpg)
>
>stop interrupting them when theyre on the phone, listening to
>music, reading a book or otherwise preoccupied
>
>stop pressing when she tells you she's not interested
>
>don't continue trying to talk to her after it's clear she's
>ignoring you
>
>stop thinking that 'damn baby you got a fat ass' is a
>compliment
>
>when she turns you down, don't call her a bitch and tell her
>she ain't that cute anyway
>
>stop feeling like we owe you time or conversation
>
>if she snaps at you, don't blame her
>

i agree with alla that. you can't stop people from talking to you, but you also cannot MAKE A PERSON TALK TO YOU. so if someone is giving you vibes like they don't want to be bothered then just let them be.

also, men really don't have any idea what it is like to be a woman walking down the street. we're not making this shit up. and just because YOU may not do it doesn't mean it doesn't happen...or happen often.

and i hope we know it doesn't matter what a person wears to be harrassed. you don't even have to have big titties or a big ass. you just have to appear to be female (yes, female - girl or woman, or trans girl/woman) no person is asking for certain treatment until the words come out of his or her mouth.

personally, i smile and speak and keep it moving.

i do have a slight problem objectifying men. a stupified "hi" is the extent of the physical/verbal manifestation of the degrading thoughts in my mind tho.

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641. "almost 700 replies and no "I SWEAR IMMA MARRY A OKFEE""
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Archive.

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701. "can't marry em if you can't even talk to them."
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lol

"Give a woman the moon, bitch will want another moon to go with it"

(C) My Nigga Randall

  

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710. "lmao"
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__________________
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645. "I SAY AGAIN:......."
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...you know why niggas continue to holla like that? because that shit works sometimes.

so tell your daughters/cousins/aunts/friends/etc to stop giving in to weak ass hollas and other niggas will follow. simple as that.

  

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652. "lol why can't y'all just let these ladies emote?"
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I mean if you aren't out there looking like creepasaurus rex then you don't have to take heed to much of anything being said here.
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654. "if men would like for more women to be receptive to street hollers"
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then maybe they should check other men when they see them being disrespectful to a woman.

a long time ago i made a post about how a dude tried to holler at me on the street. i ignored him, he got mad, started clowning me, and then ANOTHER dude on the street decided to chime in. then i made a post about it on OKP, and OKP dudes came at me too! fuck yall, man.


  

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659. "I don't know very many real life events that ended with:"
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> then i made a post about it on OKP,

That has ended well, lol

  

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668. "AND AT THE SAME TIME:"
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tell your daughters/cousins/aunts/friends/etc to stop giving in to weak ass hollas and niggas will follow. simple as that.

  

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656. "^^again, where r the acceptable places to holla^^"
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only those who agree with the OP, please answer.

i think someone said the bar but for the most part i didn't see it answered when asked in here

we can't leave this topic until this is answered. i really don't want to harass anyone

  

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660. "I highly doubt that you'll get an answer..."
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...except for maybe their little semicircle of friends and online dating.

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662. "heres a few that ive found work great"
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the club
the bar
grocery store
post office
playground
restaurant
bowling alley
fundraiser

try em out.


do or die

  

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697. "Funny because I know plenty women who complain about these"
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as well. Especially the club...but they'll also say they don't wanna be bothered at a frocery store or anywhere in public when they are just "minding their business, handling their business" or some shit.

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667. "trace said in one of the replies in this post that clubs, lounges"
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parties etc are acceptable but when she is walking to the store just to get some juice its not (again that was said in the post)

reread

prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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669. "How am I supposed to know if she's walking to the store?"
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670. "well if you can't read her mind"
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it probably wouldn't work out anyway, so forget it

  

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673. "lmao. Its the lonely chicks makin excuses for not bein boo'd up"
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Don't approach me. I could be goin to get my check cashed!

Crown fried got a snack box waitin for me on the corner and I told them I'd be there in 10min!

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711. "LMAOOOOO"
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661. "If you doin your numbers, don't listen to none of this shit in here. "
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663. "just dont holla at me at the gas station tho"
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especially if i have my son,

i hate that.

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671. "DO NOT APPROACH ME ABOUT MY WHITE SHOES"
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Just look.

  

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678. "BUT IT'S AFTER LABOR DAY!! DAMN RITE I'MMA SAY SOMETHIN!!!"
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680. "I personally would rather K.I.M. "
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Smile and because I live in the south I'ma most likely say hi.

And if it's nice, if she's lingering or something we can talk right then.

If not, I'ma K.I.M Because if she's into the shit I'm into, I'ma see her again.

When I see her again, you do that, "don't I know you from somewhere or, Didn't we see each other the other day? etc, etc"

And then you can build a convo from there based on a few different things, it's comfortable, she prolly feels safe, etc.

But if she's rolling with a crew, I might holler.

You get a twofer

She likely will feel comfty with her people around, you're sending out a resume to the rest of 'em on what you're about. Give her that number anyway, she might pass it on. Fine gals travel in flocks. Plus you get "that nigga bold" points in a context where she's comfortable.

I wouldn't pass up on THAT, nah.

"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
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682. "There are a lot of POVs on this but it aint complicated."
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Cos there are some women that want to be regarded as objects in general and also in specific situations.

They're fine with that and that's okay. It's their choice.

There are others that would like to be left alone, period. They want their space respected. That's also okay.

Then there are gradations inbetween. If a cat wants to talk to a lady on the street he's not going to know which one of these ladies he's dealing with.

Fine.

He might even be tone deaf when it comes to subtle messaging and signaling. Or it could be a cultural thing. Maybe he feels he should say hi, she should say hi back.

He could be the dullard that thinks earphones and reading material aint as interesting as whatever he has to say.

That's fine too. Good people do stupid things all the time.

But if she SAYS she doesn't want to be bothered, leave her alone.

& keep your ego buttressing remarks to yourself about how you aint wanna holler, how she aint all that, etc.

Being a civilized adult shouldn't be that hard.

You don't HAVE to cat call, you aint gotta stalk or assault someone to get their attention.


"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
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684. "so it's either they want to be left alone or objectified...lol"
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you stay on some bullshit, lol...


How about some women like to be treated like a fucking human and have their presence acknowledged or polite etiquette...


Some women are antisocial...

and MOST don't like to be objectified.

Saying Hi, or letting a woman know she looks nice is not treating her like an object.






You know what IS treating them like an object,

trying to save hoes...

you treat them like baseball cards...

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685. "Either you're trolling or you must not read very well. "
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We both know you're trolling and that you're very talented at it.

I clearly say this:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=11564670&mesg_id=11564670&page=#11569435

"Cos there are some women that want to be regarded as objects in general and also in specific situations.

They're fine with that and that's okay. It's their choice.

There are others that would like to be left alone, period. They want their space respected. That's also okay.

Then there are gradations inbetween. If a cat wants to talk to a lady on the street he's not going to know which one of these ladies he's dealing with."


You reply saying this:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=11564670&mesg_id=11564670&page=#11569456

"so it's either they want to be left alone or objectified...lol
you stay on some bullshit, lol...
How about some women like to be treated like a fucking human and have their presence acknowledged or polite etiquette...
Some women are antisocial...
and MOST don't like to be objectified.
Saying Hi, or letting a woman know she looks nice is not treating her like an object."

CLEARLY you're either trolling, didn't read everything I stated or a complete idiot.

I defined too extreme poles and then state there are people living at either end AND inbetween.

"Then there
are gradations
inbetween"

OKAY, BRUH! Thanks for playing.






>you stay on some bullshit, lol...
>
>
>How about some women like to be treated like a fucking human
>and have their presence acknowledged or polite etiquette...
>
>
>Some women are antisocial...
>
>and MOST don't like to be objectified.
>
>Saying Hi, or letting a woman know she looks nice is not
>treating her like an object.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>You know what IS treating them like an object,
>
>trying to save hoes...
>
>you treat them like baseball cards...

"Slaves got options...cowards aint got shit." --PS
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687. "OK CARL!"
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696. "^ This"
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I was like "How's ya shot group?"
She was like "Oh it's good, I'm tight!"
So I was like "I wanna see dem pretty tattoos!"
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708. ""there are some women that want to be regarded as objects""
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LOL. Quite the objective way for you to frame their position.


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683. "Glad I live in a city where people are friendly and actually like each o..."
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Overall shit is situation based, I never try to put a woman in a position where they feel in danger, whether its thru talking to them or walking too closely behind them. A polite hello and convo starter in the middle of the daytime, downtown on a major street with tons of people around is a lot different than alone at night. One of these is probably within the realm of normalcy and one makes you creepy/scary.

I think it's best to walk around and generally be nice/smile at people and if they smile back say hello and leave it at that or just walk around minding your own business and ignore other passersby. I live in TX this is how people act, if I lived back east I would just totally mind my ow business, totally different culture.

As a dude it's all a crapshoot, what one woman will welcome, another will get freaked out by. Not really worth the hassle to do unsolicited hollers.

I do think women should be ignored much more and pandered to much less, it would be good for an egalitarian society. Don't give up your seat for them on the bus/train, let them ahead in line or do anything for them that you wouldn't do for a dude.

  

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688. "But then they'd have a problem with this shit! Wheres the chivalry!!"
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>
>
>I do think women should be ignored much more and pandered to
>much less, it would be good for an egalitarian society. Don't
>give up your seat for them on the bus/train, let them ahead in
>line or do anything for them that you wouldn't do for a dude.

And I ain't even talkin bout the normal chicks in this post. I'm talkin bout the outliers. They want chivalry, they want men to be providers, they want men to be strong go getters but they gonna complain abo8ut everyone just b/c a few idiots act like idiots. Get over it, and live life. This shit is too short to be cutting good dudes/people off b/c they acknowledge your existence in public and/or want to get to know you. Sometimes you gonna have to say no, but you could meet a good person/friend. I

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689. "I don't get why str8 men can't take "no" or no response for an answer"
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Not all, but so many that it's disturbing for me to witness. So I can only imagine how the woman being forced to deal with his entitled bulsshit feels. It's this kind of immaturity and weakness of ego that seems to have ruined street hollers for all civilized breeders.

I just hope that this social disease doesn't spread to the gay community! I can generally appreciate a street holler from another man, because I can safely assume that my safety isn't in danger. It's a luxury women don't have. The minute a nigga says "You aint cute anyway" or "Well then fuck u bitch" will be a sad day for the rest of my sex life.

  

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691. "Because there's a rap stripper club video playing in their heads"
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and they think real life is like that.

  

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699. "Rootie Tootie Fresh And Fruity even made an appearance"
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this post is the like the Oscars for idiots.

and why you worried about what "breeders" do Boy lover

"Give a woman the moon, bitch will want another moon to go with it"

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692. "all the dudes in the post not getting TRace's point"
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I live in Brooklyn and the stories i get to hear from my lady and other women about the constant comments from the streets.
Even the Rastas go too far
heck Capelton tried to holla at my lady even after she told him she was taken.
Empress!!

  

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695. "Do women think the assholes in the street "
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will become gentlemen once they are in a store, club, bar, library?

  

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698. "THANK YOU!"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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694. "I may catch flak for this, but as I guy, I somewhat understand"
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after my recent trip to Mexico. My gf + I got interrupted what seemed like every 10 secs. by someone trying to sell us something we didn't want or need. Earphones in, reading, eating, no difference. So I can understand the feeling of being bothered when you're not in the mood or very clearly busy/preoccupied.

HOWEVER, that said, as a guy, I also understand where the fellas are coming from. Especially those of us that have approached women respectfully on the street and had it work out favorably. From what I've read in this poast women aren't even on the same page with you on this one. A moratorium on all street contact seems extreme.

And of course you have the problem of your sistren that actually DO respond to the disrespectful or more aggressive hollers. I'm not saying "blame the victim" but you do have to acknowledge there are some females out there who respond. I dunno why -- they like the attention, they thought the dude was cute, whatever -- but that's part of the problem too b/c it fuels the more aggressive dudes b/c 'they've seen it work before'.

I don't think the aggressive/disrespectful hollers are cool and if I have a son I'll do my best to make sure he treats women with respect (my father taught me) but not every dude has had that exposure unfortunately...

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702. "niggas went from 0 to victim blaming/deal with it quick as fuck."
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i'm out.
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703. "you post like you like niggas."
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707. "I don't talk to niggas that write their name on the orange juice, kid."
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i'm out.
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704. "ironically this discussion came up with my wife last night"
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apparently when she was on her way out of a grocery store last night with the baby a man said to her "hey beautiful, can I help you with your bags?". She said "no thanks" and he kept it moving.

She asked if there was something wrong with that considering she had a small baby (basically implying that it should have been a signal to him that she was taken).

I'm basically like "who's to say that he was really interested in more than just being nice and helping you with your bags? Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. But I would only have a problem with it if he continued after you told him no thanks". I mean she DID have quite a few bags. To be honest, I'm liable to do the same thing he did, given the same situation. I mean, I understand that she may have felt some sort of way that he addressed her as "beautiful", but hey that's just men for you.

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***
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709. "trace, we don't stand a chance..."
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in that locked post?
the men in there are callin one another a host of names:
trick
bitch -a litany of bitches
hoes
girly-mouthed
cunts

hahaha
they ain't givin it up to one another
& the crux bein
they are using terms against one another that were instituted to demean & demoralize US

ur post was about bein left alone while u're on the street
what they in their many refutations to ur request are not aknowleging or refusing to is
those terms in many cases ensue our rebuffs
our stances against the hollahollaholla

u know
when i'm out in public alone or w/other women
i truly have this internal hope & desire that the men i'm sharin the concrete w/are heroes
champions
WILLING

for

there are those of us {women}
who have been body-slammed
verbally assaulted
sexually assaulted
followed
just for saying..."no"

& we stock our arsenals
the mean mugs
the ear buds
the books
the mace
the tasers
the box cutters
the .22s
the silences

but yeah, ma
they'll proclaim to do or die for theirs
to murk should one ever dare
but u know
as i know
we ain't family out on them blocks

my family ain't never asked
"can i fuck?"
in the presence of other family
& had that shit laughed @
my offense to such slighted
or brow beaten on a message board

*tips ATL coffee mug @ u*
kiera cares, if don't nobody else does

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