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for the record i agree with you. it was always uncomfortable to me. but we've all seen it work with some women. and not just work, but really work. so is this another of those things that only men you desire can do?
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believe in yourself.
have faith in your abilities.
without a humble but reasonable confidence in your own powers,
you cannot be successful or happy.

not compassionate....only polite.

I am not like you at all and