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"NBA FREE AGENCY 2014 (Part 3)"


  

          

isola reporting melo to knicks
https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/status/486959760042770432

beck saying 'not so fast'
https://twitter.com/HowardBeck/status/486965786486259712

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lol
Jul 09th 2014
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsIPqSvCUAAejAP.jpg
Jul 09th 2014
2
Yeah....
Jul 09th 2014
3
Team Tank 2015!
Jul 09th 2014
4
Our pick is top 3 protected. AKA dont tank.
Jul 09th 2014
5
I say overpay a couple guys for two years and max out one guy for a year...
Jul 09th 2014
8
That title is taken until further notice
Jul 09th 2014
96
Good Shit
Jul 09th 2014
6
RE: Good Shit
Jul 09th 2014
7
      I Disagree Somewhat
Jul 09th 2014
9
      RE: I Disagree Somewhat
Jul 09th 2014
13
           http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Z_Yd_MRY0e8/UxFbmQEcHsI/AAAAAAAADQw/E7C7FXf-zv...
Jul 09th 2014
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      he wasn't going to give up 54 million
Jul 09th 2014
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           RE: he wasn't going to give up 54 million
Jul 09th 2014
18
Damn if only Rose would've made that call. His phone has no outbound tho...
Jul 09th 2014
11
lulz
Jul 09th 2014
12
Not New but Woj said it
Jul 09th 2014
14
Waiters would absolutely be moved in a MIN/CLE deal
Jul 09th 2014
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That team doesn't even make it to the ECF.
Jul 09th 2014
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its a serious team but needs a sg and a center
Jul 09th 2014
19
Yep, they'd need more pieces. They won't get Dieng or Pek.
Jul 09th 2014
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lmao, what?
Jul 09th 2014
20
Who's beating them? Indiana? Washington? Hahahah.
Jul 09th 2014
21
Pacers? Sure if Lance is back. Maybe, Wiz. Depends on the roster.
Jul 09th 2014
24
      RE: Pacers? Sure if Lance is back. Maybe, Wiz. Depends on the roster.
Jul 09th 2014
28
      Yet you're talking about a team with Varejao at Center & ...
Jul 09th 2014
31
           They also have Lebron, in case you forgot.
Jul 09th 2014
42
                With Bosh & Wade. And a proven head coach. And proven role players.
Jul 09th 2014
45
                     Lebron didn't play with anyone nearly as good as Love in CLE.
Jul 09th 2014
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      For RBO any team with UK alum. Wiz, celtics, whatever
Jul 09th 2014
29
           Like the Pacers or the Bulls?
Jul 09th 2014
30
                If it happens I'll make you a nice wager
Jul 09th 2014
34
                     1.) I'm expecting the East to get a lot better.
Jul 09th 2014
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                          Back on my computer
Jul 09th 2014
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                               RE: Back on my computer
Jul 10th 2014
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RE: That team doesn't even make it to the ECF.
Jul 09th 2014
26
Yeah, I'm talking about James at his current age & 2 guys...
Jul 09th 2014
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      RE: Yeah, I'm talking about James at his current age & 2 guys...
Jul 09th 2014
40
pen them in the finals.
Jul 09th 2014
37
yea it's an awesome 2K roster for sure
Jul 09th 2014
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Bwahahahahaaha, what shit u smokin bcuz not even Cali weed is that good
Jul 10th 2014
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      Snowcap. And it is good.
Jul 10th 2014
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           And if were Lebron, Scott padgett, and Saul Smith
Jul 10th 2014
                Yes, because that's what i do right? Seems like YOU mentioned UK...
Jul 10th 2014
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                     Dog, your segment on our show wasnt about a Team It was about UK players...
Jul 10th 2014
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                          I talked about the Wizards. Then other teams with UK players.
Jul 10th 2014
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lol@Ray Allen playing starters minutes
Jul 09th 2014
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Right? Niggs posting from the Hot Tub Time Machine drinking wine coolers
Jul 09th 2014
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      right, plus Varejao who averages about 30 games a season, Kyrie with...
Jul 09th 2014
32
      Who said anything about starters minutes?
Jul 09th 2014
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           Is he not penciled in on this fictious starting lineup?
Jul 09th 2014
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                lol, right
Jul 09th 2014
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                I guess we should assume Lance Stephenson signs with the Cavs for 500K
Jul 09th 2014
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                     did twitter say so?! not believing it till twitter says...
Jul 09th 2014
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                     Lance and Lebron don't like each other RBO
Jul 09th 2014
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                Do all starters play starters minutes?
Jul 09th 2014
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                     not sure why they being stupid...if someone was to list miami best
Jul 09th 2014
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                     Meanwhile truth is refreshing lbj.com like crazy
Jul 09th 2014
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                          Yes, because this is about UK right. Some way..some how this is about UK
Jul 09th 2014
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                          Kinda is, since Wall drives your anti-Kyrie agenda
Jul 10th 2014
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                          Probably ran out and got the galaxy 5 so he could
Jul 09th 2014
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                     You had the 5 and then 3 dudes. I assumed those were starters...
Jul 09th 2014
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                          any Eastern team with LBJ on it is a favorite for the ECF
Jul 09th 2014
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                          From 2 guys that don't even like Bron
Jul 09th 2014
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                          Wait, I don't like Lebron? Where do you guys get this stuff really?
Jul 09th 2014
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                               I'm talking about celery and I you asshat
Jul 09th 2014
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                          You mean when he lost to the Celts in Round 2?
Jul 09th 2014
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                               what team in the East is getting better? Rockets play in the West, bro.
Jul 09th 2014
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                                    Players improve. You know this. And the Spurs have proven...
Jul 09th 2014
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                                         and I'm saying Bron + the East = ECF
Jul 09th 2014
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                                              You don't have to be better than Lebron to beat his team.
Jul 09th 2014
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                          Did we see the Miami roster he took to the ecf this yr?
Jul 09th 2014
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                          I already posted my reasoning in Reply 38 bro.
Jul 09th 2014
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                          So Wade doesn't even exist now? Lol
Jul 09th 2014
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                          RE: You had the 5 and then 3 dudes. I assumed those were starters...
Jul 09th 2014
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                               Did I say otherwise? I said Lebron is not a game changer?
Jul 09th 2014
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                                    RE: Did I say otherwise? I said Lebron is not a game changer?
Jul 09th 2014
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                                         Brother Murph....did you drink 2 40's of Steel Reserve before this reply...
Jul 09th 2014
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smh, now I want him to stay with bosh and wade
Jul 09th 2014
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yes please, move Love to the East
Jul 09th 2014
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      But Love is WHY the Wolves suck
Jul 09th 2014
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           he's more overrated than sucky, but yes
Jul 09th 2014
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                Wait, they suck because there wasn't anyone better on the team
Jul 09th 2014
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                     right -- he's more overrated than sucky
Jul 09th 2014
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final numbers in : salary cap @ $63.065M, lux tax threshold @ $76.829M
Jul 09th 2014
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WELL THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
Jul 09th 2014
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lol, traffic on lebronjames.com is pretty heavy right now
Jul 09th 2014
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I'm guessing we'll see something in the 7:00 hour
Jul 09th 2014
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      does Vegas have odds yet??
Jul 09th 2014
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      O/U 7:35
Jul 09th 2014
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      I dont think it happens today
Jul 09th 2014
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Lebronon citizens who check his shit everyday + have the app
Jul 09th 2014
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^^
Jul 09th 2014
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Any news on Eric Bledsoe?
Jul 09th 2014
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that'd be a great move for philly
Jul 09th 2014
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Why?
Jul 10th 2014
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      RE: Why?
Jul 10th 2014
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greg monroe too
Jul 09th 2014
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I think the RFAs are largely waiting in the cut, the big $ ones at least
Jul 09th 2014
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Good to be white. Parsons gets $45mil/3 years offer from Mavs
Jul 09th 2014
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fucking owners must be elated, we live in an nba where
Jul 09th 2014
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and once again ... they said Nic Batum was overpaid
Jul 09th 2014
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i don't think HOU's matching that. woj is reporting an impasse.
Jul 09th 2014
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True. Morey's math can't equal those $$$
Jul 09th 2014
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      also per woj: daryl talked to deng / ariza / pierce agents today
Jul 09th 2014
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           Please take Ariza off the market.
Jul 09th 2014
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           pierce? wow...that would be nice.
Jul 09th 2014
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                LMAO..Pierce can't check a legit wing player any longer
Jul 10th 2014
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So Bosh has three days to decide.
Jul 09th 2014
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Parsons cap hold just went up to 15 mill & they can't sign-n-trade him
Jul 09th 2014
      per Z-Lo: cap hold remains qualifying offer for 72h
Jul 09th 2014
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      Filf inaccurate drive by shooting posts again
Jul 09th 2014
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           All that information was taken from Larry Coon's CBA FAQ
Jul 10th 2014
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      no it didn't.
Jul 09th 2014
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      RE: no it didn't.
Jul 10th 2014
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           well, mark deeks wrote that.
Jul 10th 2014
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      RE: Parsons cap hold just went up to 15 mill & they can't sign-n-trade h...
Jul 09th 2014
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           Larry Coon's CBA FAQ says otherwise
Jul 10th 2014
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what are the implications of this for houston
Jul 09th 2014
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I mean, if someone offers you $15 per, are you not taking it?
Jul 09th 2014
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cuban is willing to pay him to be a second/third best player
Jul 09th 2014
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are you seriously asking why Parsons would agree to 3yrs/$45M?
Jul 09th 2014
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it's some boozer/cavs shit. but u right i don't know parsons
Jul 09th 2014
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      except it isn't -- both Morey + Chandler knows he's been underpaid
Jul 09th 2014
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      There was no agreement with Parsons.
Jul 09th 2014
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           The fact that he waited this long has been gift enough
Jul 09th 2014
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Houston created the situation by declining his option
Jul 09th 2014
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yea i'm talking more about him immediately agreeing to it in principle
Jul 09th 2014
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      unless somebody else is offering more than $15M/yr...
Jul 09th 2014
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      He negotiated with Houston today; they lowballed him
Jul 09th 2014
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           basically.
Jul 09th 2014
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Were clear cap wise til we match
Jul 09th 2014
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Regardless of their luck elsewhere, I would not match that if I'm Morey
Jul 09th 2014
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exactly -- will okp indulge a little Bill Simmons shit-talking?
Jul 09th 2014
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      It's one of those "It's a good idea until it isn't."
Jul 09th 2014
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      is he the stupidest commentator alive or just the most overexposed?
Jul 09th 2014
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      Remember when he seriously thought he could be a GM?
Jul 09th 2014
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      To be fair, that's a pretty low bar that's been set.
Jul 09th 2014
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           I think he thinks he'd be Trader Jack though
Jul 10th 2014
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      Isn't That What Morey Did With The "Poison Pill" Deals?
Jul 10th 2014
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           No
Jul 10th 2014
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btwn this and the hayward contract, klay partying like shit.
Jul 09th 2014
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damn...lol...
Jul 09th 2014
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here's a list of players in the last 2 years averaging 15/5/3 on 45% FG
Jul 10th 2014
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      yea, 15 No. But what has he done? Laughable
Jul 10th 2014
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https://twitter.com/DmoSwag/status/487099406454243328/photo/1
Jul 10th 2014
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Sportscenter is doing a lame fake Siri/Bron segment...let's get this shi...
Jul 09th 2014
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Melo: I'm gonna get my money but force a trade next year
Jul 09th 2014
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yezzir.
Jul 09th 2014
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he did it before
Jul 09th 2014
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      he might not feel like sticking around either
Jul 09th 2014
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      Melo comes in demanding a trade. Leaves with a book & some incense.
Jul 09th 2014
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      'o you want a trade? lets discuss it over some peyote in my sweat lodge'
Jul 09th 2014
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      lol
Jul 09th 2014
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      If Melo wants to leave
Jul 09th 2014
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At least the Knicks would get great assets with Melo leaving in that sce...
Jul 09th 2014
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      I'd take it, and with 4 years left on his deal, we'd get much more than
Jul 09th 2014
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Nike: Bron: Coming Home: Cle Commercial WC Final
Jul 09th 2014
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i so want bron to go full heel
Jul 09th 2014
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      Lmao...
Jul 09th 2014
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsJKF8jCUAADSEz.jpg
Jul 09th 2014
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lmao
Jul 09th 2014
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsJO32LCYAAOPhu.jpg
Jul 09th 2014
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that's a great one.
Jul 09th 2014
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lin to philly apparently done, contingent on bosh signing
Jul 09th 2014
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RE: lin to philly apparently done, contingent on bosh signing
Jul 09th 2014
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Asset lyfe
Jul 09th 2014
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      Dmo on a team where he gets shots is a good look
Jul 09th 2014
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           oh, we trading him before the deadline for pickz
Jul 10th 2014
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                No reason to
Jul 10th 2014
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                     RE: No reason to
Jul 10th 2014
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                     ^^^ nailed it
Jul 11th 2014
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                     we'll trade him at the deadline, not waive him
Jul 10th 2014
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Greivis back to Toronto - 2yrs 13m
Jul 09th 2014
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Doesn't make sense to me, I thought he could do better
Jul 09th 2014
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      he's always been this good....nba teams don't value it with $$$
Jul 09th 2014
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wait. LeBron never met with Cleveland?
Jul 09th 2014
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Dan Gilbert took The Letter off the website, didn't you hear?
Jul 09th 2014
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Its completely plausible Gilbert is tricking himself into this
Jul 09th 2014
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1) the decision, lebron is weird about this 2) i really think he's indec...
Jul 09th 2014
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I mean, he doesn't have to, really.
Jul 09th 2014
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Does he know Blatt and the GM?
Jul 10th 2014
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he don't owe Miami anything ,
Jul 10th 2014
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Good points...
Jul 09th 2014
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i brought this up re: the "6pm deadline"
Jul 09th 2014
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SAVANNAH, then headed to brazil for the final
Jul 09th 2014
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      yea that's weird. so none of the other teams could "blow him away"
Jul 09th 2014
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           as a bron fan which of these scenarios do u want most
Jul 09th 2014
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Dan is using this debacle as an excuse to cut payroll.
Jul 09th 2014
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He might've-he's in Vegas & Cleveland brass is in town for summer league
Jul 10th 2014
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      good point
Jul 10th 2014
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....but did you see Mike Miller's instagram tho?
Jul 09th 2014
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lmao that's gotta be intentional
Jul 09th 2014
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Of course. It's sitting there ON THE FLOOR. Hilarious.
Jul 09th 2014
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RE: ....but did you see Mike Miller's instagram tho?
Jul 10th 2014
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bosh only going to houston if bron leaves miami according to multi
Jul 09th 2014
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Are those sources called 'common sense'?
Jul 10th 2014
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      naw, for that money i'd leave regardless if i were bosh
Jul 10th 2014
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           what are you talking about? he's been said he wants to stay
Jul 10th 2014
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           reread the subject line if you're struggling to understand
Jul 10th 2014
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                I said what bomb said has been obvious for the last 2 days
Jul 10th 2014
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                     yea his reply ignored the objective word in my swipe
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                          dude he's been wating for lebron this whole time...it hasn't
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           hell yeah
Jul 10th 2014
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Would Melo not get a player option if he signs with NY?
Jul 10th 2014
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Melo is going to end up in Wade's shoe if he opts out at 33
Jul 10th 2014
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Chris Sheridan: 90% certain LeBron back to Cavs (swipe)
Jul 10th 2014
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James Johnson 2 year deal with Tdot (we shoulda made bron seperate)
Jul 10th 2014
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either the Cavs are involved in the greatest trolling in sports history ...
Jul 10th 2014
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Odds are better we resign CP25 if we get Bosh right?
Jul 10th 2014
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pretty much...like you said, the only issue is the tax
Jul 10th 2014
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why do that when cheaper options abound?
Jul 10th 2014
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The cheaper option doesn't improve the team per se cause the
Jul 10th 2014
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If Houston signs Bosh
Jul 10th 2014
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at first I was like "who the fuck is CP25?" he needs another nickname
Jul 10th 2014
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lol me too.
Jul 10th 2014
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Right?
Jul 10th 2014
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Wait, Who? Chandler Parsons? If u sign Bosh, he's a Mav. That's a given.
Jul 10th 2014
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RE: Wait, Who? Chandler Parsons? If u sign Bosh, he's a Mav. That's a gi...
Jul 10th 2014
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      LMAO if you think Dwight is coming off the bench (c) RBO
Jul 10th 2014
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      LOLOLOLZ
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           RE: LOLOLOLZ
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                smh if you really did that yourself
Jul 10th 2014
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                     cmon he just got the Samsung yesterday
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                          #TeamiPhone
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      Supposedly they have to move T-Jones to keep CP25 & offer Bosh max $$
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           The Wiz need to jump on that. Keep Nene's mins down. T-Jones...
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we can replace cp2.5 tho...
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With what money?
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      its not about money..its about a player
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           With what money?
Jul 10th 2014
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                we still have players on the roster that can play
Jul 10th 2014
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Rox will match if bosh signs
Jul 10th 2014
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I doubt it. That would be repeater tax territory
Jul 10th 2014
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The Lebron Decision Amazing Detective work (via designer at my job)
Jul 10th 2014
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CARCOSA IS A CLEVELANDER Y'ALL, MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE!
Jul 10th 2014
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lolz.
Jul 10th 2014
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that's pretty impressive, actually
Jul 10th 2014
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      or, he's got pages built
Jul 10th 2014
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Does the silly FILF I was right dance (Parsons)
Jul 10th 2014
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I'm confused by this
Jul 10th 2014
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we discussed above but if you get bosh you are capped out
Jul 10th 2014
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got ya, figured it was something like that
Jul 10th 2014
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yeah if bosh signs, hou is over or close enough that they can't
Jul 10th 2014
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still gotta dump Lin
Jul 10th 2014
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      i think trades can't become official till the moratorium is over?
Jul 10th 2014
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      oh how jarret jack get traded?
Jul 10th 2014
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      because today is the first day it can go through
Jul 10th 2014
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      Guys can officially sign today.
Jul 10th 2014
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      The word all along is Lin trade is contingent on Max player
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           yea i edited
Jul 10th 2014
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It makes a lot of sense to me, thought about it last night ...
Jul 10th 2014
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Ooo ok. I was wrong, Les is ready to eat some serious tax bills
Jul 10th 2014
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If the OS doesn't immediately affect the cap-hold then it's Morey's call
Jul 10th 2014
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STEVE BLAKE + LAKE OSWEGO (pdx) RE-UNITED ONCE AGAIN!
Jul 10th 2014
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STEVE BLAKE YOU GUYS! STEVE BLAKE! HIM + KOBE ARE BFFs!
Jul 10th 2014
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He's taking over Earl Watsons vet bench warming duties
Jul 10th 2014
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Morey hiding and blocking up all Rockets mailboxes
Jul 10th 2014
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Non-Jewish white GM helping each other out conspiracy (c) Truth
Jul 10th 2014
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morey should be concerned about firing mchales ass
Jul 10th 2014
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Uh... fuck that. Sign him to a nice, long, expensive extension.
Jul 10th 2014
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He should be more concerned about that than anything
Jul 10th 2014
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Didnt know you were a CP25 Hater though
Jul 10th 2014
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      naw shawn..i love cp25...but hes not worth that money
Jul 10th 2014
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https://twitter.com/netw3rk/status/487279453316587520
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SORRY ABOUT THE JAGERMEISTER STAINS
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      so douchey
Jul 10th 2014
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lolz wtf
Jul 10th 2014
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LMAO
Jul 10th 2014
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      LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jul 10th 2014
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LBJ Camp tells police to increase patrols tonight re decision
Jul 10th 2014
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He doesn't want them to burn his mansion; no more Bron Cavs jerseys left
Jul 10th 2014
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lol
Jul 10th 2014
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Now he's not going home. Going to Brazil from Vegas
Jul 10th 2014
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Chris Bosh is in Ghana per sources.
Jul 10th 2014
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here are some fun gifs for those who are bored by all this
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lebron seen with drose (knees)
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      lebron ready for press conference
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           lebron still negotiating with kobe
Jul 10th 2014
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http://dailysnark.com/espn-lebron/
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laughed hard. good shit.
Jul 10th 2014
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Sources Confirmed Lebron Caught Fish With Son
Jul 10th 2014
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He can't NOT go back at this point, right?
Jul 10th 2014
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what would he be bailing on? he's a free agent.
Jul 10th 2014
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He's a least resistance/easiest path type of dude. Shouldn't be surpisin...
Jul 10th 2014
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oh, you mean he is smart?
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      Sure, if you look at it that way.
Jul 10th 2014
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           lol bulls fans so salty
Jul 10th 2014
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           Oh, I'm sorry, Jorn never cried about his teammates/coaches?
Jul 11th 2014
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I don't buy this reasoning at all
Jul 10th 2014
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but it's been pretty much all the media fanning the flames
Jul 10th 2014
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^^^^THIS^^^^
Jul 10th 2014
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Yes, in thee blue fuck he can sign anywhere he wants.
Jul 10th 2014
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      I see you anti jinxing and all but it's a bit much at this point.
Jul 10th 2014
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If LeBron goes back to CLE, can someone promise to make a GIF...
Jul 10th 2014
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Well this post was completely fucking worthless.
Jul 10th 2014
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uhh BLAZERS FRANCHISE RECORD HOLDER FOR ASSISTS IN A QUARTER CAME HOME!!
Jul 10th 2014
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PJ tucker 3 years 16,5
Jul 10th 2014
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Great deal for Phoenix
Jul 10th 2014
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PJ is just happy to be there. this is an amazing deal for him.
Jul 10th 2014
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As long as he doesn't end up like Bobby Simmons it's a good deal
Jul 10th 2014
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http://youtu.be/G7xlzLOZH5c
Jul 10th 2014
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Mild hunnids
Jul 10th 2014
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Mavs have renounced the rights to Matrix/Vince/Dirk
Jul 10th 2014
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Rockets should take Matrix back for cheaper
Jul 10th 2014
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Is Bledsoe going to end up somewhere? (Lil Zeke visiting the desert)
Jul 10th 2014
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Isiah, Dragic, Bledsoe, and they drafted Ennis
Jul 10th 2014
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      Dragic is the most moveable asset
Jul 10th 2014
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so Lebron flew back to Miami from Vegas with Wade? He staying...
Jul 11th 2014
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I can't believe these dudes can't make a decision until Bron does
Jul 11th 2014
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Really its the other teams that are holding things up waiting for him
Jul 11th 2014
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not really. Bosh can sign right now if he wants as can Melo.
Jul 11th 2014
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They will get paid just the same, why not wait for all available info?
Jul 11th 2014
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So now Comic Dans letter IS a problem (SOURCES SOURCES SOURCES)
Jul 11th 2014
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pretty dumb to me if the lettter is the hold up. You knew it was
Jul 11th 2014
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Well
Jul 11th 2014
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Its collective bargaining, so whatever issues the owners have
Jul 11th 2014
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      Good Point
Jul 11th 2014
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           yeah just max dudes...all the other scragglers and such ain't
Jul 11th 2014
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makes sense given Bron's vocal willingness to go on strike
Jul 11th 2014
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you think Gilbert wouldn't pen a public letter to get bron back?
Jul 11th 2014
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      Basically
Jul 11th 2014
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           Only question Gilbert should be asking is what font would you like
Jul 11th 2014
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RE: pretty dumb to me if the lettter is the hold up. You knew it was
Jul 11th 2014
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      yeah but what does that do for the players?
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           RE: yeah but what does that do for the players?
Jul 11th 2014
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                specifically, how does that help tho? lol it sounds good on paper
Jul 11th 2014
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lmao, sheridan airs out Sources
Jul 11th 2014
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lolz he was getting on colin cowherd yesterday
Jul 11th 2014
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Dude is going hard. If bron doesnt go back, hes done
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      Seriously. He's gone all in on Cleveland
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      lol right...unless he's seen a signed contract...idk
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           there would be no one left
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           Lol hes already beendone with ESPN. he runs his own site
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Is there an option Broussard hasn't "sourced" out?
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is this all an elaborate revenge against gilbert?
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lol
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i would love that kind of knife-twisting
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I mean, I'd at least check the price of a summer home in Lebronon
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Boogiedwn
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1. "lol"
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2. "https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsIPqSvCUAAejAP.jpg"
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsIPqSvCUAAejAP.jpg

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3. "Yeah...."
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Not surprising that Melo chose the money and his wife wanting to stay in NYC (if in fact true)...That's a lot of bread and family is family...If dude really wanted to make it happen he could have demanded that S&T...

But yeah, we long moved on from this storyline...In fact, the Bulls front office had gone about their business weeks ago as if Melo was staying...

So what to do?

Love and the psycho at Indy? I think that would give us our second ball creator and the 2nd superstar we need...

We will see...

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4. "Team Tank 2015!"
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5. "Our pick is top 3 protected. AKA dont tank."
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You're not even guaranteed a pick with the worst record.

Just don't go all out on 2nd tier FA's. PLEASE.

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8. "I say overpay a couple guys for two years and max out one guy for a year..."
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The only people worth throwing money at next year are Rondo and Love. Ensuring we have a max slot available to offer love next year should be a priority, so I have no problem giving out ridiculous money if someone is willing to take a shit ton of money to put up nice numbers on a bad team for a year.

Since we’ve got to meet that cap minimum, resign Young/Xavier/Hill, throw 8mil at Isaiah Thomas for 2 years, see if Indy will take Nash’s expiring bag of dildos so we can overpay the shit out of Born Ready for like 15 mil for one year and see if we can’t snag a trade exception for Pau when he follows Melo to the Knicks.

I dunno how the numbers will work, but I’d be fine some bullshit like that. At least we’d put up some points and have flexibility to make a run at KD.

  

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As a Knicks fan, I'm good. Don't give a shit if it's for the max or not (supposedly the cap will be raised next couple of years)

Thing is, he's the first out of the biggest names to make his decision. I think he also knows what Bronny and Boshy are gonna do, and was like, OK.

  

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7. "RE: Good Shit"
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>As a Knicks fan, I'm good. Don't give a shit if it's for the
>max or not (supposedly the cap will be raised next couple of
>years)
>
>Thing is, he's the first out of the biggest names to make his
>decision. I think he also knows what Bronny and Boshy are
>gonna do, and was like, OK.


I don't think Bron and Bosh had much to do with this...

It's all LaLa and that loot...

Because it wasn't about winning...

But like I've always said. It's really hard to leave that money on the table AND not have a happy wife/family...

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9. "I Disagree Somewhat"
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>
>I don't think Bron and Bosh had much to do with this...
>
>It's all LaLa and that loot...
>
>Because it wasn't about winning...
I disagree about the winning part. The only real serious contenders that made their pitch was Houston and Chicago. Chicago couldn't afford him, and I don't think he was really a fit in Houston. I think he still wants to win, and Chicago (or Dallas) would be his best bet, but Chicago couldn't make it work with the $. That's a LOT of $ to sacrifice. Not to mention no way Phil takes on Boozer in a sign and trade. Chicago should've BEEN amnestied Boozer.


>But like I've always said. It's really hard to leave that
>money on the table AND not have a happy wife/family...
I agree with this

If I'm the Bulls, I go all out for Born Ready...he can complement Rose, can score, play D, and he'll be a lot cheaper. Either that, or possibly drive up the price on Chandler Parsons

  

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13. "RE: I Disagree Somewhat"
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>>
>>I don't think Bron and Bosh had much to do with this...
>>
>>It's all LaLa and that loot...
>>
>>Because it wasn't about winning...
>I disagree about the winning part. The only real serious
>contenders that made their pitch was Houston and Chicago.
>Chicago couldn't afford him, and I don't think he was really a
>fit in Houston. I think he still wants to win, and Chicago (or
>Dallas) would be his best bet, but Chicago couldn't make it
>work with the $. That's a LOT of $ to sacrifice. Not to
>mention no way Phil takes on Boozer in a sign and trade.
>Chicago should've BEEN amnestied Boozer.


2 things....

1. If Melo was 28 u would have a point. But the reason why I think he basically chose family happiness/money over winning is because at 30 years old Melo will lose one of his important prime years in rebuilding. And once that happens, it's a complete gamble to get a second superstar the season after next to play alongside Melo (Durant, LA out of Portland...who?)...This is Melo having complete faith in Feel. And I hope that faith pays off...Because this is indeed a gamble...

2. Melo could have gone to the Bulls if he really wanted to via Sign & Trade. He would have gotten his money...Feel/Knicks would have gotten 1st round picks, expiring contracts and possibly a guy that has been touted to be a top 4 pick in this years draft...But he didn't want to leave because LaLa was not about to let him leave that money on the table. It is what it is...



>>But like I've always said. It's really hard to leave that
>>money on the table AND not have a happy wife/family...
>I agree with this
>
>If I'm the Bulls, I go all out for Born Ready...he can
>complement Rose, can score, play D, and he'll be a lot
>cheaper. Either that, or possibly drive up the price on
>Chandler Parsons


We need a creator and a second superstar...I can put up with Born Ready's bullshit given that Thibs commands respect...But we should go HARD at Love before Cleveland gets any bright ideas (if they end up getting Bron the rumor is they are going HARD at Love....)....

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128. "http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Z_Yd_MRY0e8/UxFbmQEcHsI/AAAAAAAADQw/E7C7FXf-zv..."
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>We need a creator and a second superstar...

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10. "he wasn't going to give up 54 million"
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add that to the fact that his 1B in Chicago possibly has degenerative knees and it's not surprising.

the bulls need to forego with their hardheaded "mold" and reach out to Lance with a respectable offer.

  

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18. "RE: he wasn't going to give up 54 million"
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>add that to the fact that his 1B in Chicago possibly has
>degenerative knees and it's not surprising.
>
>the bulls need to forego with their hardheaded "mold" and
>reach out to Lance with a respectable offer.


Again...This would all be true if the Bulls were depending on Melo to leave money on the table through a straight up signing....He would indeed be giving up MAJOR bank....

But Melo would have gotten his max money via S&T...And Feel would have been forced to make that trade given that he is after picks and more salary structure freedom...

It really comes down to Melo taking the easy way out and wanting to keep Lala and the fam happy...

As for Rose's knee? Melo with Rose at 75 percent would be in the Eastern Conference Finals...The Bulls won damn near 50 games with a rag-tag team with their best player being Noah...lol...With Melo they would instantly become Title Contenders even with Rose on the bench...Especially with the shooters we added.

As is, Bulls fans/brass have moved on weeks ago given we made the move to sign Niko. We should now turn our attention to Love/Lance...

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11. "Damn if only Rose would've made that call. His phone has no outbound tho..."
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http://tinyurl.com/3gpbn76

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12. "lulz"
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https://twitter.com/mynameisFACE/status/486977612946755584

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14. "Not New but Woj said it"
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https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/486978019056037888

Cavaliers are pursuing a Kevin Love trade with Minnesota, contingent on the signing of LeBron James, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.


Do they resign Anderson?

Kyrie
Ray
Bron
Love
Anderson

Tristan
Bennett
What do they get for Waiters or do they keep him

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16. "Waiters would absolutely be moved in a MIN/CLE deal"
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I still don't think Cleveland's willing to give up Wiggins, though.

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17. "That team doesn't even make it to the ECF. "
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19. "its a serious team but needs a sg and a center"
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because ray and varejao should just basically sit out the regular season and even then might not last through june

plus i don't think love is that great a partner for bron....keeping wiggins and bron at pf if they go small is better than getting a guy who doesn't do anything bron can't do (even if he's really good at it too) and losing financial flexibility.

i'd almost rather see them try to pry pekovic (though he costs a bit much) or even better dieng away (for waiters or facilitating a 3 team deal) and forget about love on their roster.

  

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23. "Yep, they'd need more pieces. They won't get Dieng or Pek. "
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Pek makes too much.

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20. "lmao, what?"
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who's stopping that team in the east?

  

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21. "Who's beating them? Indiana? Washington? Hahahah."
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24. "Pacers? Sure if Lance is back. Maybe, Wiz. Depends on the roster. "
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A healthy Nets team, beats them.

Bulls with Rose beat them in 5.

Fuck, a healthy Hawks or Raps team might beat them.

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28. "RE: Pacers? Sure if Lance is back. Maybe, Wiz. Depends on the roster. "
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>A healthy Nets team, beats them.

A team that has never been healthy. Got it.

>Bulls with Rose beat them in 5.

We haven't seen Rose in 2 years basically. So uh, nah.

>Fuck, a healthy Hawks or Raps team might beat them.

LOLOLOLOL.

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31. "Yet you're talking about a team with Varejao at Center & ..."
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Ray Allen at the 2?

Might as well have said Eddie Jones off the bench.

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42. "They also have Lebron, in case you forgot."
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The guy who's been to the ECF or better in 6 of the last 8 years - with varying degrees of teammates. Kyrie Irving? Kevin Love? Yeah I'll just pencil him in there.

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45. "With Bosh & Wade. And a proven head coach. And proven role players."
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Lol... but yeah. Good fantasy team though.

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71. "Lebron didn't play with anyone nearly as good as Love in CLE."
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Or Kyrie. So...yeah.

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29. "For RBO any team with UK alum. Wiz, celtics, whatever"
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30. "Like the Pacers or the Bulls? "
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34. "If it happens I'll make you a nice wager"
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lol at you talking reckless. up until this season your boy wall hadn't sniffed playoffs and we all know how bad the east is.

Lebron is that good. These dudes have played together for team USA.
Love and kyrie with Lebron? The talent is there.

Don't worry you can still keep making jokes in kyrie and live about how they would've never done this without Bron help.

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38. "1.) I'm expecting the East to get a lot better. "
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2.) That squad has way too many flaws and injury risks.
3.) Who plays defense on that team besides Lebron? I'll wait...
4.) Who protects the rim on that team? I'll wait again...
5.) Rookie Coach from Europe you say?
6.) Kyrie is now a spot up shooter while Lebron makes plays. That negates a large part of what Kyrie is good at.

Yeah dude, I'm making this stuff up while you guys are stuck playing fantasy basketball.

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146. "Back on my computer"
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1) where will the east get better from besides the Wiz?

-Pacers could lose lance. Do we trust them to rebuild?
-Even if Rondo is better, Boston isnt a contender.
-Bulls, sure. Theyre always there
-Toronto? ok



>2.) That squad has way too many flaws and injury risks.
I cant disagree with the injury risks. But injury risks are just that, risks. Nothing is in stone either way.


>3.) Who plays defense on that team besides Lebron? I'll
>wait...
Kyrie is not worse than lazy wade we saw. Even harden isnt that bad.
But either way Varejao is a decent defender when not hurt--especially hedging pick and rolls.



>4.) Who protects the rim on that team? I'll wait again...
They can find a Birdman cheap willing to play with Bron. Birdman was barely a rim defender himself.


>5.) Rookie Coach from Europe you say?
Rookie half Filipino coach who hadnt even been an assistant you say?


>6.) Kyrie is now a spot up shooter while Lebron makes plays.
>That negates a large part of what Kyrie is good at.
>
Cmon. One of Brons best skills is his unselfishness. Hes shared the ball almost to a fault with Wade. He'll share with Kyrie and make Kyrie even better. Not being able to help on Kyrie at all? shit.

Even if you wereright and Kyrie was a spot up shooter, he's a hell of a shooter. I wouldnt want to leave that dude open. Then he catches the ball with the abilitry to pumpfake and go to the hole? He's one of the best finishing pgs.



>Yeah dude, I'm making this stuff up while you guys are stuck
>playing fantasy basketball.

fantasy basketball is Wiggins, Zach Levine, and Ricky Rubio in Minn.
Again anything with lebron instantly becomes real. Youre making up fantasy scenarios to say theyll not contend for the ECF.

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253. "RE: Back on my computer"
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>1) where will the east get better from besides the Wiz?
>
>-Pacers could lose lance. Do we trust them to rebuild?
>-Even if Rondo is better, Boston isnt a contender.
>-Bulls, sure. Theyre always there
>-Toronto? ok
>
The Wiz need to get better and make the right moves, but they're a threat.

Why couldn't the Pacers rebuild? How about if they don't lose Lance? What if Lance stays in the East to a team that's close. The Bobcats?

I didn't even mention the Celtics. They're a non factor unless they make moves.

Toronto is a threat forming.


>
>
>>2.) That squad has way too many flaws and injury risks.
>I cant disagree with the injury risks. But injury risks are
>just that, risks. Nothing is in stone either way.
>

I know, but some of those key cogs are big injury risks. Everyone can get injured but Anderson, Love, and to some extent Kyrie get injured a lot.

>
>>3.) Who plays defense on that team besides Lebron? I'll
>>wait...
>Kyrie is not worse than lazy wade we saw. Even harden isnt
>that bad.

Yes he is.

>But either way Varejao is a decent defender when not
>hurt--especially hedging pick and rolls.
>

I agree. But I'm gonna assume he'd be banged up. Cuz he always is.

>
>>4.) Who protects the rim on that team? I'll wait again...
>They can find a Birdman cheap willing to play with Bron.
>Birdman was barely a rim defender himself.
>

Birdman is a threat though. They have no threat to defend the rim. Who will they find? Haywood? Dalembert? Those dudes might not even be in their price range.

>>5.) Rookie Coach from Europe you say?
>Rookie half Filipino coach who hadnt even been an assistant
>you say?
>

He had experience before Bron came though. Learned. Got his lumps. This is a rookie head coach.


>>6.) Kyrie is now a spot up shooter while Lebron makes plays.
>>That negates a large part of what Kyrie is good at.
>>
>Cmon. One of Brons best skills is his unselfishness. Hes
>shared the ball almost to a fault with Wade. He'll share with
>Kyrie and make Kyrie even better. Not being able to help on
>Kyrie at all? shit.

I'm good with that, but I'm saying Bron's strengths will negate a lot of Kyrie's strengths. They overlap a bit on offense. It'd be like a worse version of the first year in Miami where Bron would have to take his turn, then Wade took his turn. That wasn't as effective.

> Even if you wereright and Kyrie was a spot up shooter, he's a
>hell of a shooter. I wouldnt want to leave that dude open.
>Then he catches the ball with the abilitry to pumpfake and go
>to the hole? He's one of the best finishing pgs.
>

Not denying that.

>
>
>>Yeah dude, I'm making this stuff up while you guys are stuck
>>playing fantasy basketball.
>
>fantasy basketball is Wiggins, Zach Levine, and Ricky Rubio in
>Minn.
>Again anything with lebron instantly becomes real. Youre
>making up fantasy scenarios to say theyll not contend for the
>ECF.
>

Nothing fantasy about it. I'm making logical basketball arguments.

You guys are the ones saying, Lebron = ECF no matter what the team looks like. Just because, he's Lebron.

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26. "RE: That team doesn't even make it to the ECF. "
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u talking about a team with James, Kyrie and Love?

Chill, dog...

That team wins the ECF easily...James took less to the ECF....

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27. "Yeah, I'm talking about James at his current age & 2 guys..."
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that have never made the playoffs and a bunch of spare parts.

That's EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

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40. "RE: Yeah, I'm talking about James at his current age & 2 guys..."
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>that have never made the playoffs and a bunch of spare
>parts.
>
>That's EXACTLY what I'm talking about.


No...u r just talking shit now, brother Billy...lol


I'm not a James booster being that my team has had their heart broken each and every time...

But it's silly to even think that James could not take a team with Love and Kyrie to the ECF...Like borderline wacky...Especially given that the East would be turned upside down by James leaving MIA (IF this even happens)...

They would go to the ECF with my mom at center with James on that team...remember, we not talking about James, Love, Kyrie and ect beating the Spurs...

I know u have no love for Kyrie...But that boy would go NUTS playing next to James, who adds 40 plus wins to any shitty team he goes to...

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37. "pen them in the finals."
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56. "yea it's an awesome 2K roster for sure"
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but like u allude to
that's a lot of injury risk spread out across a starting lineup
that team is a mid season bang up injury from being second round fodder
counting on sideshow and ray to play heavy minutes at this stage is down right foolish
and that's with giving kyrie the benefit of the doubt that all his injuries were "fake" (c) bags
shit 70% of the team we've never even seen in the playoffs before
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171. "Bwahahahahaaha, what shit u smokin bcuz not even Cali weed is that good"
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Lebron, Love & Kyrie don't REACH the Eastern Conference Finals due to the Pacers & Wizards?!?

I'm worried about you, my dude.

  

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255. "Snowcap. And it is good."
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I'm pretty sure if it was Lebron, Chevy Chase, & Martin Short you'd think they'd make the ECF too.

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"And if were Lebron, Scott padgett, and Saul Smith"


  

          

youd do the fuckin same

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265. "Yes, because that's what i do right? Seems like YOU mentioned UK..."
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more than me in this post though.

Weird.

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267. "Dog, your segment on our show wasnt about a Team It was about UK players..."
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LMAO.

Everyone else did a go with their team.

It is what you do.

Make a poll right now in OKS and ask people what you are known for.

I guarantee you I know the answee.

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273. "I talked about the Wizards. Then other teams with UK players."
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Acknowledged watching bad teams. All of that.
So it's not like I was on some Jazz gonna win the title cuz of Enes. Lol

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22. "lol@Ray Allen playing starters minutes"
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25. "Right? Niggs posting from the Hot Tub Time Machine drinking wine coolers"
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32. "right, plus Varejao who averages about 30 games a season, Kyrie with..."
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his injury history, and Love hasn't exactly been an ironman himself, with only Tristan and Bennett on the bench, lol

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36. "Who said anything about starters minutes?"
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39. "Is he not penciled in on this fictious starting lineup? "
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43. "lol, right"
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46. "I guess we should assume Lance Stephenson signs with the Cavs for 500K"
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48. "did twitter say so?! not believing it till twitter says..."
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50. "Lance and Lebron don't like each other RBO"
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So that will not happen buddy!

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47. "Do all starters play starters minutes?"
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Or he'll why didn't you clown me for having a 8 man roster. Wel all know no nba team has a 8 man roster since you're being so literal.

I could've penciled in dion but like someone said above he's more than likely gone and will get them another asset.

We already see how everyone is waiting for Bron and what happened in Miami. A bunch of old free agents chasing a title will likely sign for cheap.

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52. "not sure why they being stupid...if someone was to list miami best"
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Or most important players from last year it would include allen. Pretty obvious what your point was.

-The Knicksā€™ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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57. "Meanwhile truth is refreshing lbj.com like crazy "
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And RBO is just a UK Stan who hates kyrie and love.

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60. "Yes, because this is about UK right. Some way..some how this is about UK"
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172. "Kinda is, since Wall drives your anti-Kyrie agenda "
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62. "Probably ran out and got the galaxy 5 so he could"
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Download the lbj app.

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59. "You had the 5 and then 3 dudes. I assumed those were starters..."
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vs the bench.

But if you're saying your eloquent posting style is to write in stanzas, then MY BAD.

I'm saying that top 8 you posted isn't an ECF team unless teams regress or injuries happen.

Yes, maybe they grab OJ Mayo or some bs player who gets cut.

Maybe Jonathan Bender un-un-un-retires and comes back.

Shit, maybe Grant Hill walks out of the AT&T store happy about his new family sharing plan and is reinvigorated to play some hoops and join the Cavs.

I don't know bro.

I'm willing to say that roster isn't an ECF team. I don't know how else to put it.

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61. "any Eastern team with LBJ on it is a favorite for the ECF"
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or did you already forget what LeBron did with the Cavs the last time around?

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65. "From 2 guys that don't even like Bron "
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You just in that agenda shit.


Ba's gone man. You got PTSD. Stop shadowboxin ghosts.

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81. "Wait, I don't like Lebron? Where do you guys get this stuff really?"
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127. "I'm talking about celery and I you asshat"
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67. "You mean when he lost to the Celts in Round 2?"
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He's older and the East is getting stronger. ***shrugs***

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86. "what team in the East is getting better? Rockets play in the West, bro."
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the Wiz should improve their record, but they won't be a real threat to Bron.
Toronto is treading water.
Atlanta might improve with health, but again -- they're not better than Bron.
who did the Knicks trade for? Calderon? Right, yeah -- that's gonna move the needle.
Miami might well get worse.
Charlotte is competitive, but hardly a threat.
Boston is gonna have Kelly Olynyk (sp?) knock the crown off Bron's head?

Like who? Who, outside of whatever team potentially signs LeBron, is actually getting better?

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97. "Players improve. You know this. And the Spurs have proven..."
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almost 2 years in a row that you don't have to be better than Lebron to beat him in the playoffs.

Bron is not my problem with that team dude. Reply 38.

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102. "and I'm saying Bron + the East = ECF"
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it's not any more complicated than that. There's a whole host of reasons I don't love the hypothetical Cavs with Bron on the roster, or even Bron + Love, but you're deluding yourself if you think they fail to make the ECF.

Young players get better, yes. But there is no young player in the LEAGUE, much less the Eastern Conference, about to get better than LeBron James.

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111. "You don't have to be better than Lebron to beat his team. "
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63. "Did we see the Miami roster he took to the ecf this yr?"
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I'd take varčjao/tristanover birdman
Kyrie over any combo of pgs the heat had
I'd take love over bosh- but I'll give you that one.

Either pf you take from that scenario isn't a big drop off from the other.

Now what'd that Miami bench look like?

They started playing James jones

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69. "I already posted my reasoning in Reply 38 bro. "
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The only obvious upgrade is at PG & that's an issue as stated in Reply 38.

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75. "So Wade doesn't even exist now? Lol"
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72. "RE: You had the 5 and then 3 dudes. I assumed those were starters..."
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Give up the ghost on this one, homie...James it the game-changer here...And again...This is coming from a Bulls fan....Wherever dude goes in the East he makes a team an instant ECF contender...And possibly beyond...

This is not even a debate...

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73. "Did I say otherwise? I said Lebron is not a game changer? "
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Or did I say they wouldn't be contenders for the ECF?

Lol...you guys make your own arguments up.

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113. "RE: Did I say otherwise? I said Lebron is not a game changer? "
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No..but u r actually arguing that the Cavs adding the best player in the league who took a broken down D. Wade and a good all-star in Bosh playing out of position for much of the season with a bunch of junk to the Finals would not even make it to the ECF with Kevin Love and Kyrie. And all this in the still weak ass East... where only my Bulls (who have yet to get another true star to help Noah and Rose) and Toronto are in the way...

Either u just fucking with people or having a stroke......

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122. "Brother Murph....did you drink 2 40's of Steel Reserve before this reply..."
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>
>
>No..but u r actually arguing that the Cavs adding the best
>player in the league who took a broken down D. Wade and a good
>all-star in Bosh playing out of position for much of the
>season with a bunch of junk to the Finals would not even make
>it to the ECF with Kevin Love and Kyrie. And all this in the
>still weak ass East... where only my Bulls (who have yet to
>get another true star to help Noah and Rose) and Toronto are
>in the way...
>
>Either u just fucking with people or having a stroke......
>

D-Wade and Bosh are All Stars. Sure Wade got exposed in the later rounds. But it was still a championship team with that pedigree.

You're the one talking about making the ECF like it's nothing.

The East isn't going to be as bad as you think or as easy to run through.

Bron is the best player in the league, but the rest of the players and the coach don't have that pedigree.

And wtf are you talking about the Bulls and Toronto are the only teams in the way.

My dude put down them 40's.

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33. "smh, now I want him to stay with bosh and wade"
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-The Knicksā€™ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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35. "yes please, move Love to the East"
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SOMEBODY in the West needs to join Utah in just plain sucking.

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53. "But Love is WHY the Wolves suck"
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According to someone

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58. "he's more overrated than sucky, but yes"
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If Love is the 2nd best player on a team, that team is probably good, i.e. Curry (best player) and Love (2nd best) with Bogut as rim-protector is a recipe for goodness.

If Love is the best player on a team, then that team is not as good as it would be if LaMarcus Aldridge were the best player in his place. That's more or less the equation.

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64. "Wait, they suck because there wasn't anyone better on the team"
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to make him second best?

In other words, he didn't have a very good team around him?

Weird.

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68. "right -- he's more overrated than sucky"
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because despite his early all-star selections and constant media hype, the truth is that he's a second banana at best. I don't want him to find a second banana situation in the West, because the West is insanely tough, but if he does it out East, more power to him.

And yeah -- I'd call Love the second banana on basically every Western playoff team, if not third in some cases.

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15. "final numbers in : salary cap @ $63.065M, lux tax threshold @ $76.829M"
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right about what everyone expected.

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41. "WELL THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!"
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something something iPhones are the Devil's workshop

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44. "lol, traffic on lebronjames.com is pretty heavy right now"
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49. "I'm guessing we'll see something in the 7:00 hour"
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-The Knicksā€™ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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51. "does Vegas have odds yet??"
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54. "O/U 7:35"
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-The Knicksā€™ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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55. "I dont think it happens today"
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That was just speculation. If guess end of the week.

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66. "Lebronon citizens who check his shit everyday + have the app"
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how long has that "just a kid from Akron, Ohio" been on his website?

  

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70. "^^"
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To people like US, a record is a piece of history. A moment in time.
Most people don't get it.

  

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74. "Any news on Eric Bledsoe?"
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Probably waiting for the big pieces to land but I haven't heard his name mentioned too often and he's an RFA. He's probably looking at big money. I'd love to see Philly go after him. If the Lakers and Mavericks whiff, do they make a run for him?

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76. "that'd be a great move for philly"
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173. "Why? "
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190. "RE: Why? "
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I am guessing they are thinking because he is a talented player and would instantly be the best NBA talent on our team (or 1B if you really like MCW).

That said, it don't work for us because you have to throw the max at him to even entice PHX to not match (which they probably will anyway). I like Bledsoe but he is not a max money guy for our situation. It will greatly reduce our flexibility. He fits in so much better on a squad that has their "franchise guy(s)" and is looking to add a piece. That certainly isn't us.

  

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77. "greg monroe too"
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http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

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93. "I think the RFAs are largely waiting in the cut, the big $ ones at least"
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Even guys who are UFAs but not quite in that top tier seem to be playing wait and see. Of course I would like to see the Sixers pursue some of these guys, the younger ones like Bledsoe and Monroe.

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78. "Good to be white. Parsons gets $45mil/3 years offer from Mavs"
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79. "fucking owners must be elated, we live in an nba where "
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lebron is gonna make 2/3 of what jordan made 20 years ago, franchises are worth many times what they were 20 years ago, and they still get to complain about signing mid-level players to "ridiculous" "overpaid" contracts when it's time to strangle the players in the next CBA round.

  

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80. "and once again ... they said Nic Batum was overpaid"
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82. "i don't think HOU's matching that. woj is reporting an impasse."
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https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/487007975798620160
Houston and Parsons, a restricted free agent, negotiated throughout day, but were unable to come to an agreement on a deal, sources said.

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87. "True. Morey's math can't equal those $$$"
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They could probably get Deng or a solid replacement for less.

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98. "also per woj: daryl talked to deng / ariza / pierce agents today"
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https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/487012898334445568

so yeah, looks like he's on to plan b.

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101. "Please take Ariza off the market. "
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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138. "pierce? wow...that would be nice."
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Think he winded up in LA wit doc tho

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176. "LMAO..Pierce can't check a legit wing player any longer"
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Their perimeter defense would take a turn for the worse if Pierce was their starting SF.

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83. "So Bosh has three days to decide."
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The Rockets have three days to match but probably would prefer landing Bosh. Kind of surprised that Parsons didn't wait. Nice move by Mavs to force Houston's hand a bit.

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"Parsons cap hold just went up to 15 mill & they can't sign-n-trade him"
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The Rockets are screwed (they will either lose Parsons & his cap hold w/o getting anything back in return or if they match the offer sheet they can't offer Bosh the max)...Cuban doin' work.

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108. "per Z-Lo: cap hold remains qualifying offer for 72h"
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then it's decision time.

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119. "Filf inaccurate drive by shooting posts again"
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169. "All that information was taken from Larry Coon's CBA FAQ"
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http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/freeagentcapholds.jsp

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109. "no it didn't."
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1) he hasn't actually signed anything yet, and can't until 12:01 ET
2) his cap hold is still the QO for 3 days (DAL's cap space is tied up , not HOU's)

the part abt S+T being off the table is right tho

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170. "RE: no it didn't."
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>1) he hasn't actually signed anything yet, and can't until
>12:01 ET
Which is why the Mavs cap space isn't tied up since they can re-sign Dirk after they complete the Parsons signing.

>2) his cap hold is still the QO for 3 days (DAL's cap space is
>tied up , not HOU's)

Offer sheet: The player currently has an offer sheet pending; if the first year's salary of that offer sheet is greater than the QO, then the value of the first year of the offer sheet is used as the cap hold.
http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/freeagentcapholds.jsp

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175. "well, mark deeks wrote that."
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>Offer sheet: The player currently has an offer sheet pending;
>if the first year's salary of that offer sheet is greater than
>the QO, then the value of the first year of the offer sheet is
>used as the cap hold.
>http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/freeagentcapholds.jsp


he also wrote this, yesterday :

https://twitter.com/MarkDeeksNBA/status/487009706721165314

@MarkDeeksNBA
No. So they have three days to use their cap space. RT @sstewart1617 Does this increase Parsons Cap hold for Rockets during the 3 days?
6:05 PM - 9 Jul 2014


...


and here's larry last night on twitter :

https://twitter.com/LarryCoon

So let's do some math. Suppose Houston dumps Lin & Asik with $0 coming back. They renounce Daniels, Garcia & Hamilton. They waive Casspi
...Beverley, Covington & Powell. They keep QO to Parsons & Capela's draft rights. They have Dwight, Harden, Jones, Motiejunas & Canaan.
..With that configuration, they can give Bosh $16,427,992. Pretty short of his $20,644,400 max.
So let's renounce Capela & Parsons. Cap room rises to $19,279,451. STILL short of a max offer, and they don't have rights to Parsons.
To keep Parsons' rights & still sign Bosh to max, they have to dump another $3,732,744 in guaranteed salary. That's Jones AND Motiejunas.
So to get Bosh at max AND keep Parsons, Daryl Morey just needs to dump Asik, Lin, Jones AND Motiejunas with no salary coming he other way,
...along with throwing overboard everything that's not bolted down.


...


so as far as i know, parsons' cap hit during the waiting period is still just the QO ($1,760,350, 190% of his previous salary)

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129. "RE: Parsons cap hold just went up to 15 mill & they can't sign-n-trade h..."
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>The Rockets are screwed (they will either lose Parsons & his
>cap hold w/o getting anything back in return or if they match
>the offer sheet they can't offer Bosh the max)...Cuban doin'
>work.


Um...no...

That's not how the cap hold works...

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168. "Larry Coon's CBA FAQ says otherwise"
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>That's not how the cap hold works...

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/freeagentcapholds.jsp

-QO: The player is a restricted free agent, but NOT coming off of the rookie salary scale; their cap hold is for the value of their qualifying offer.

-Offer sheet: The player currently has an offer sheet pending; if the first year's salary of that offer sheet is greater than the QO, then the value of the first year of the offer sheet is used as the cap hold.

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84. "what are the implications of this for houston"
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writers made a big deal about the rockets needing him not to get a big offer sheet for them to maintain flexibility
rockets have couple of days to respond but why would parsons 'agree' to this putting rockets in a fucked up situation when they looked out for him on the RFA tip . i'm sure morey had some kind of gentlemen agreement with him

  

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88. "I mean, if someone offers you $15 per, are you not taking it?"
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There may have been an agreement but since you and I knew all of that about the Rockets finances, you can be sure GMs and owners around the league knew it too. Perfect opportunity to snatch him up if you want him.

That said....good lord, $15+ a year for Parsons? Insane.

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89. "cuban is willing to pay him to be a second/third best player"
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and houston obviously doesn't think they can win with him as their third best player

fuck being a gentleman if they're going to slight you on your payday like that. and you know if parson's accepts what houston would want him to accept, and/or morey ships him out, it hurts his exposure moving forward.

  

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90. "are you seriously asking why Parsons would agree to 3yrs/$45M?"
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>but why would parsons
>'agree' to this putting rockets in a fucked up situation when
>they looked out for him on the RFA tip . i'm sure morey had
>some kind of gentlemen agreement with him

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92. "it's some boozer/cavs shit. but u right i don't know parsons"
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he might be a dick
if rockets were going let him walk they could have held em another yr then let em bounce instead of making whatever deal they made that convinced morey to give him the hook up
so they lose parsons for some RFA compensation and the pleasure of paying bosh 24mil per?

  

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99. "except it isn't -- both Morey + Chandler knows he's been underpaid"
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but Morey has told Chandler, look, that's the business. Keep playing and you can get your contract in free agency. What happened with Boozer was an odd situation where he convinced Cleveland to release him early, so that Cleveland could "make him whole" or whatever (basically Cleveland was going to give Boozer the raise he deserved), but by doing that Carlos became unrestricted and bounced straight out of town.

Chandler is restricted. If Morey wants to retain him, he just has to match. It's much more similar to the Batum situation, where the Blazers always wanted to retain him but Nic and his agent had to use the market to set a fair price.

But basically if Morey wants to retain Parsons, he can. It's not similar to the Boozer situation at all.

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100. "There was no agreement with Parsons."
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From what I've heard, Parsons wasn't in on the option being declined. Boozer and the Cavs had a handshake agreement that Booz walked away from. The Rockets, on the other hand, turned down the option with their sights on other guys and never had any agreement with Parsons that they'd re-sign him afterwards.

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115. "The fact that he waited this long has been gift enough"
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Nobody expected the Lebron shit to happen.

Whered you read he wasnt in on getting declined. I mean Im sure he didnt want to make 900k another season--but both those thinge dont have to necessarily inform the other.

I know they asked him to help pitch Melo but he wasnt in on it.

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95. "Houston created the situation by declining his option"
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And then this entire offseason they've been courting other players who might make Chandler unnecessary. It's not like they were showing Parsons all of this loyalty and then he spit in their face. They opted not to pick up his option, he became an RFA, they negotiated and couldn't agree, so Chandler went elsewhere and got a ridiculous offer from Dallas that would be hard pressed to turn down.

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103. "yea i'm talking more about him immediately agreeing to it in principle"
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houston gave bosh a massive offer and he's taking his time on it
parsons case is a lil bit more urgent obs but damn agreeing even before FAgency starts....he doing him 100%

  

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105. "unless somebody else is offering more than $15M/yr..."
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what is there to "wait" about? That's practically MAX money. The agent doesn't even need to make 29 other phone calls before they say yes to that. Just call the other handful of teams with more cap room than that, ask if they want to pay Chandler more than $15M/yr Y/N? Then when that's done, take Dallas' offer.

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106. "He negotiated with Houston today; they lowballed him"
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He's not going to wait around and have Dallas spend the money on someone else. I have no problem with players going for theirs. I'm still stunned Wade gave up the money he did.

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110. "basically."
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112. "Were clear cap wise til we match"
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>writers made a big deal about the rockets needing him not to
>get a big offer sheet for them to maintain flexibility
>rockets have couple of days to respond but why would parsons
>'agree' to this putting rockets in a fucked up situation when
>they looked out for him on the RFA tip . i'm sure morey had
>some kind of gentlemen agreement with him


I think they did have something worked out since Parsons and Dwight also share an agent.

But I think all this Bron shit has caused things to be more drawn out than expected.

Parsons waited as long as he could. Dallas mighta been like now or never. Once other dominoes fall parsons could get stuck.


Word is they negotiated all day.

What I wonder is whether Rockets contacted Deng after things fell apart or if talking to Deng caused things to fall apart.


End of Day Deng for 7-8 mil is a lot more worth it than parsons at 15. But Parsons did mean a lot to the culture and locker room of this team.

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91. "Regardless of their luck elsewhere, I would not match that if I'm Morey"
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104. "exactly -- will okp indulge a little Bill Simmons shit-talking?"
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I just listened to the most recent BS Report with Z-Lo, and Bill was going on about how, "I don't understand why GMs don't sign restricted free agents to big offer sheets just to fuck with their team. Like why doesn't someone just sign Chandler Parsons to a MAX deal to throw a wrench in Morey's whole Bosh play?" (note: he prattled on about similar dumbass shit last year w/r/t Nikola Pekovic) Bill adds, "If I was a GM, I'd be tweaking other teams all the time! Just sign people to mess with other teams!"

uhhhh, Bill? Have you seriously not thought through why this is a bad idea? Because the other team can just DECLINE to match and then you're stuck with a dumbass contract. Like it appears we have with the Mavs here. Yes, it will hurt the Rockets, but when you put Morey in a situation where his choices are Chandler Parsons at $15M per or no Chandler Parsons, you know what? That's a pretty easy decision. Dallas can have him. The Rockets are crazy if they match that, because it's a bad contract, even if they don't necessarily use that cap $ to sign Bron or Melo.

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107. "It's one of those "It's a good idea until it isn't." "
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It made less sense with Pekovic. I mean, who really feels the need to fuck with Minnesota?

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114. "is he the stupidest commentator alive or just the most overexposed?"
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you can jam a team up but you have to be very selective. signing pekovic and parsons to kobe's contract is not selective.

in the NHL edmonton did it briefly but in all cases they were willing to get stuck with the players. they kind of screwed buffalo but looking at the return they ultimately for vanek, it was fine. they did ultimately screw themselves, because they wound up with dustin penner as a "marquee player" who managed 20 goals and a minus 20 for $5M a year.

i remember some hubub about bob clarke signing ryan kesler to an offer sheet, but the sheet was modest enough that i thought nothing of it personally.

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132. "Remember when he seriously thought he could be a GM?"
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134. "To be fair, that's a pretty low bar that's been set."
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I think most knowledgeable fans would have a shot at being a middling GM.

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276. "I think he thinks he'd be Trader Jack though"
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I like Simmons but he always undersold the responsibilities of the GM job while also asking people to actually take him serious about it.


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192. "Isn't That What Morey Did With The "Poison Pill" Deals?"
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He pretty much did the same type of thing with the Bulls and the Knicks with the poison pill deals...and he got stuck with them

But teams using that strategy on RFA's has been done. To MAX a player just to drive up his price is stupid. As is Bill Simmons

  

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238. "No"
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he got what he wanted at the time.

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94. "btwn this and the hayward contract, klay partying like shit."
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135. "damn...lol..."
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dude ain't really done shit in the league...

wow

  

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214. "here's a list of players in the last 2 years averaging 15/5/3 on 45% FG"
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Carmelo Anthony (1x)
Kobe Bryant (1x)
Kevin Durant (2x)
Pau Gasol (1x)
Blake Griffin (2x)
Al Horford (1x)
Lebron James (2x)
David Lee (1x)
Kevin Love (1x)
Paul Millsap (1x)
Greg Monroe (1x)
Chandler Parsons (2x)
Josh Smith (1x)


If you narrow the list to just guys who have done it both seasons, he's only one of four players (Bron, Durant, and Blake are the others), and he did it in his first two seasons of starters minutes.

That's some pretty solid company. He's a young player that can do several things well and shoot at a high percentage with range. He's not worth $15 million a year, but he's not a scrub either.

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222. "yea, 15 No. But what has he done? Laughable"
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167. "https://twitter.com/DmoSwag/status/487099406454243328/photo/1"
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https://twitter.com/DmoSwag/status/487099406454243328/photo/1

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85. "Sportscenter is doing a lame fake Siri/Bron segment...let's get this shi..."
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116. "Melo: I'm gonna get my money but force a trade next year"
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120. "yezzir."
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@WojYahooNBA
Within Anthony's circle, belief's been this, sources tell Y: Get NY's $129M now, figure out destination later. You can always get a trade.
2:58 PM - 9 Jul 2014

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121. "he did it before"
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But Phil is probably not the guy who you can force to do anything he doesnt want to do

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123. "he might not feel like sticking around either"
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124. "Melo comes in demanding a trade. Leaves with a book & some incense."
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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125. "'o you want a trade? lets discuss it over some peyote in my sweat lodge'"
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136. "lol"
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143. "If Melo wants to leave"
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why would Phil Jackson want the screw around with a pissed off star player? Let him bounce and get top flight assets, which I'm hoping would be multiple top picks, depending mainly on how bad the Knicks would be next season.

  

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133. "At least the Knicks would get great assets with Melo leaving in that sce..."
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It would possibly be a win-win in that regard.

  

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140. "I'd take it, and with 4 years left on his deal, we'd get much more than"
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A sign and trade now.

-The Knicksā€™ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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117. "Nike: Bron: Coming Home: Cle Commercial WC Final"
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Or when Bron is at the match on Sunday, he reveals himself in a Mia or cle Tshirt.

Decision made on the worlds biggest stage informally.

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118. "i so want bron to go full heel"
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get dirk and manu in that commercial flanking the throne

  

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126. "Lmao..."
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>get dirk and manu in that commercial flanking the throne

That's actually a good idea

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130. "https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsJKF8jCUAADSEz.jpg"
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsJKF8jCUAADSEz.jpg

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158. "lmao"
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131. "https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsJO32LCYAAOPhu.jpg"
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsJO32LCYAAOPhu.jpg

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141. "that's a great one."
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-The Knicksā€™ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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137. "lin to philly apparently done, contingent on bosh signing"
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http://www.thedreamshake.com/2014/7/9/5886055/jeremy-lin-trade-houston-rockets-philadelphia-sixers

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139. "RE: lin to philly apparently done, contingent on bosh signing"
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Wow...

I wonder if Houston signs Bosh could they sign Deng as well...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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142. "Asset lyfe"
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145. "Dmo on a team where he gets shots is a good look"
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hell play himself into a team where he is another asset.

he doesnt do a lot of stuff well, but he can score a lot of ways if not efficiently.


Hinkie has always liked Dmo.

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177. "oh, we trading him before the deadline for pickz"
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179. "No reason to"
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Both Dmo and Lin are guys who you can audition and see whether you want to keep. Theyre both relatively young and can be had for relatively cheap (after this Lin deal ends).

Of course playing in Brown's system may inflate stats a bit, but I think both guys are talented and a good fit for a young team.

At Phillys perceived best, DMO could develop into a nice bench big. He shares a lot of similarities with Saric (though not as much of a banger) might have more true 3 skills on offense. He hasnt done enough to warrant a big contract.

Jeremy on the other hand will probably get a more regular 6-8 mil a year next time around-unless he completely blows up in Philly. He' can share guard duties and start or come off the bench.


In all of Hinkie's building you should hope he's learned one thing from Morey, that assets are good to a certain extent, but imo Moreys biggest flaw is overfiddling and trading. We havent had a chance for any team in the Morey era to really build a chemistry past 2 seasons. As much important as it is to acquire top tier talent, getting them to learn how to play with each other is just as important.


Interestingly enough ive read Jeremy might just get waived but a lot of 6er fans on Liberty Ballers seem to not think so and actually want him --which is a180 degree turn to the fan reaction in Houston from the day he was signed. Maybe its cause Philly fans had a front seat view of what happened during that time they call "Linsanity".

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195. "RE: No reason to"
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I see no reason to waive Lin, you actually need to field a team at some point. If he plays decent enough, he should be a tradable asset at the deadline. If you can't trade him, he walks at the end of the year. He isn't going to help enough to stop Operation Tank 2015.

  

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338. "^^^ nailed it"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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226. "we'll trade him at the deadline, not waive him"
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he'd be a nice third guard off the bench for a contender.

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144. "Greivis back to Toronto - 2yrs 13m"
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148. "Doesn't make sense to me, I thought he could do better"
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at least as far as his situation. He didn't get a lot of burn there and he won't see much opportunity behind Lowry.

When he was playing stater mins in New Orleans he had the most assists in the league. Surely he could have gone someplace where he could get more pt.

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152. "he's always been this good....nba teams don't value it with $$$"
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and they're probably right considering his liabilities. but if you watched him in that tourney you knew he'd get it done offensively

  

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147. "wait. LeBron never met with Cleveland?"
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Only his agent? So people think he's going there to play for a new coach and a new GM and an owner he doesn't like without meeting with any of them?

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149. "Dan Gilbert took The Letter off the website, didn't you hear?"
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I think there's like a Jay-Z video with coded messages in 3s, too...

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150. "Its completely plausible Gilbert is tricking himself into this"
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so he can get mad at bron again.


But if there were no fire, I think Bron wouldve squashed teh shit completely by now.

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151. "1) the decision, lebron is weird about this 2) i really think he's indec..."
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and wants his agent to feel all this out. if he meets with anyone but MIA this shit is basically over.

  

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154. "I mean, he doesn't have to, really."
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He knows them.

He knows Miami too, but he owes MIami a face to face.

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165. "Does he know Blatt and the GM?"
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He knows Gilbert, which might not be a good thing for CLE.

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225. "he don't owe Miami anything ,"
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157. "Good points..."
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>Only his agent? So people think he's going there to play for
>a new coach and a new GM and an owner he doesn't like without
>meeting with any of them?

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159. "i brought this up re: the "6pm deadline""
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ppl are running with all these rumors as fact when some of them don't even make sense
he's going to meet several teams face to face over the next couple days

edit: espn is now saying he's and his agent done meeting with teams and will make a decision. does this mean he's staying in miami? i couldn't imagine him making a decision based off of feedback from an agent only but who knows

  

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160. "SAVANNAH, then headed to brazil for the final"
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LeBron James has all the information he needs from teams and will no longer take meetings, according to David Aldridge of NBA.com.
The report has been confirmed by USA Today's Sam Amick, Marc Spears of Yahoo!, and ESPN's Chris Broussard, so these reports are almost factual. LeBron met with Heat president Pat Riley on Wednesday and didn't make a decision, so that will go down as one of the most important free agent meetings in NBA history. It's certainly interesting that he won't meet with the Cavs (unless a secret meeting went down last weekend) because David Blatt is new to being an NBA coach and David Griffin is their new general manager. Hopefully, he'll have a decision in the next couple days.

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163. "yea that's weird. so none of the other teams could "blow him away""
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with a presentation huh
best they could get is talking terms/roster with his agent?
that has to be good for miami if true

  

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164. "as a bron fan which of these scenarios do u want most"
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161. "Dan is using this debacle as an excuse to cut payroll."
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Watch Bron go somewhere else and us walk into the season with unused cap space.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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180. "He might've-he's in Vegas & Cleveland brass is in town for summer league"
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And now he's returned to Ohio where they could also do so.

  

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186. "good point"
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153. "....but did you see Mike Miller's instagram tho?"
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http://instagram.com/p/qQCrGtvyKS/

This has to be like blue balls for Cavs fans. Insane.

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155. "lmao that's gotta be intentional"
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156. "Of course. It's sitting there ON THE FLOOR. Hilarious. "
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178. "RE: ....but did you see Mike Miller's instagram tho?"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70RmQONgKoo

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162. "bosh only going to houston if bron leaves miami according to multi"
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sources

  

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181. "Are those sources called 'common sense'?"
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If Bron leaves, Bosh goes to Houston, Melo goes to New York and Pat Riley retires.

You can set your watch to any of those things.

  

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185. "naw, for that money i'd leave regardless if i were bosh"
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he'd go to a situation set up to potentially win more chips with a huge raise to boot
him putting THAT much emphasis on another mans decision with that kinda bread on the table is note worthy
but continue to cook

  

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187. "what are you talking about? he's been said he wants to stay"
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with lebron. Its only an option at this point in Miami.

Its been 99% chance of it falling the way Bomb said (contingent on Lebron to cle) for like 2 days now lol.

Hence all the talk of dominoes falling.

-The Knicksā€™ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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188. "reread the subject line if you're struggling to understand"
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no one anticipated him getting a freaking $22mil per yr contract to play 3rd banana either
which is why he's been considering houstons offer as soon as they laid it out (ie: before lebron started talking to anyone)

  

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191. "I said what bomb said has been obvious for the last 2 days"
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That was when the rockets made him an offer.

Your original post was on some chris broussard. That's been the assumption for the last 48 hours.

Nobody cares what you woulda done lol

-The Knicksā€™ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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193. "yea his reply ignored the objective word in my swipe"
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you running in on some #actually shit as if i haven't been in the same threads as yall the last couple days
the *update* is that the houston offer has transitioned from being seriously considered (regardless of brons decision) to back up plan
not sure what's so hard to understand
if u don't think that's note worthy, uh ok. espn did apparently
just throwing it out there like all the other chris broussard rumors yall clinging to on the edge of your chairs, relax

  

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194. "dude he's been wating for lebron this whole time...it hasn't"
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changed.

if he made a move before bron at any point in this process it would have been shocking.

-The Knicksā€™ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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189. "hell yeah"
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He got two rings already. Cash in!

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166. "Would Melo not get a player option if he signs with NY?"
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Because if he does, how much does that extra year/30 mil really matter?

Now of course it matters quite a bit if he would choose
not to opt out because if he did no one is paying him that
kind of money for one season, especially that late in his career.

But if he signs another 5 yr deal 3 years from now he would
be getting more money later in his career on that deal at 33
than he would signing a new deal at 35, so how much more is
it really?

But maybe he trusts the Knicks (Phil) and likes living/playing there and its not just the money.

As much as I'd personally like to see him playing for
the Bulls it might not be the best idea given the big
question mark that is Derrick Rose's knees. I still
wouldn't be at all mad if he went there though. IMO he
doesn't go anywhere unless he can team up with LeBron,
which I don't see happening even though it would be the
best option for them both.

Hopefully both Melo and Bron use player options and team up
in Philly with all the budding superstars on that roster in
3 yrs.

At least that would be my wish. I know Joel is optimistic.

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174. "Melo is going to end up in Wade's shoe if he opts out at 33"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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182. "Chris Sheridan: 90% certain LeBron back to Cavs (swipe)"
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http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2123962-chris-sheridan-on-why-theres-a-90-chance-lebron-james-returns-to-cleveland

The Decision has been made. LeBron James is returning to the Cleveland Cavaliers, a league source tells SheridanHoops.com.

James met with Miami Heat president Pat Riley today in Las Vegas to deliver the news. A contingent of other Heat officials were informed they were not welcome at the meeting, according to a source who spoke on condition of anonymity.

An official announcement will be made on www.lebronjames.com, as I first reported yesterday.

For Cleveland, this is one of the most important days in the city’s sports history. No pro team has won a title of any kind since the Browns won the NFL Championship in 1964, and now there is a distinct possibility that the 50-year drought can end. James will be joining a team led by Kyrie Irving, who just agreed to a five-year contract extension, along with Andrew Wiggins, the No. 1 pick in last month’s draft.

It is a young core that will grow older with James as their tutor and leader, and he returns to Cleveland as a grown man who has learned what it takes to win.

For Miami, it is the end of an era — a four-year period in which a superteam was constructed and went to four straight NBA Finals.

Why is this happening? It comes down to LeBron building a legacy, which leads us to three points:

There is nothing left for him to accomplish in Miami. He went there for four years, he went to the NBA Finals all four years, and he won two titles while learning what it takes to be a champion. Nobody can ever take that away from him.
A chance to return home as a successful, seasoned adult with a chance to deliver the city of Cleveland its first championship since 1964 is too much of a legacy opportunity for James to pass up.
And another thing: With all due respect to Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade, the best player he has a chance to team up with is named Kyrie Irving.
In today’s biggest piece of news from the morning, the Cavs cleared the cap space to make a max offer to LeBron by dealing away Jarrett Jack, Sergei Karasev, Tyler Zeller and a 2016 first-round pick in a three-way trade with Boston and Brooklyn.

Today, all eyes have turned to Las Vegas, where James opened his annual summer camp, then held his meeting with Riley.


Once James makes his intentions known publicly (and the same goes for Carmelo Anthony, who reportedly will stay with the New York Knicks), the free agency dam is going to burst.

Greg Monroe, Pau Gasol, Trevor Ariza, Luol Deng, Lance Stephenson. They are all going to lock up their deals in a very short span of time, and it is going to be madness.

We have been telling you for weeks that Cleveland is in the hunt for James. Some have dismissively scoffed at the notion. Others have surveyed the landscape, summoned their inner Spock and said: “Why not?”

James traveled Monday to Las Vegas, and a source who has been briefed on James’ free agency maneuverings told SheridanHoops that James’ inner circle, from his wife, Savannah to his agent, Rich Paul, to his best friends, Maverick Carter and Randy Mims, are unanimous in their belief that James’ best move is a return to the team he played for from 2003-2010.

Fans in Cleveland have been holding their collective breath, and now they can exhale. The chance for the city’s first championship in any major professional sport since 1964 is now a distinct possibility.

The Cavs were the only team able to offer James something no one else could: Redemption. Let us not forget that we are reaching the four-year anniversary of “taking my talents,” Jim Gray, Cavs fans burning jerseys and Dan Gilbert wrongly predicting more championships for Cleveland than Miami in his infamous comic sans stream-of-consciousness Internet post — a post that was purged from the Cavs’ Web site overnight Sunday.

Never has the balance of power in the NBA hung in the balance quite the way it does now. OK, it was a similar situation four years ago regarding the balance of power, and we all were witnesses to how much sway The Chosen One holds over our beloved Association. Now, it is a question of whether he can turn a young nucleus led by Kyrie Irving and Andrew Wiggins into championship material.

Cuban in ClevelandThe man who has been greasing the skids for this epic event is James’ agent, Rich Paul, who has been meeting with potential suitors in Cleveland during the first week of the NBA’s moratorium on signings and trades, which expires July 10. Much of Paul’s work has been taking place under the radar, although there have been clues, such as Mavericks owner Mark Cuban being spotted in northeast Ohio. The Lakers had a stealth meeting Friday, and the Rockets and Suns also spoke with Paul.


  

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183. "James Johnson 2 year deal with Tdot (we shoulda made bron seperate)"
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I like james Johnsons game a lot. he wont be a star but he can have some good games and versatile off the bench. Plus nobody wants to fuck with him.

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184. "either the Cavs are involved in the greatest trolling in sports history ..."
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something is up..

cleared cap space for a max deal now they're talking to Mike Miller and Ray Allen?

uh...
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196. "Odds are better we resign CP25 if we get Bosh right?"
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Les isnt afraid to eat Tax money to win. It'd be a big tax though. I dont think Morey minds paying Parsons 15 milly to be a #4, but paying him 15 million to be a #3 cripples us big time if that makes any sense.

We cant pay parsons if we lose bosh. I dont think Morey is that dumb.


Either way we can explore Deng and Ariza who are cheaper but we'd have to decide fast if the Bron/Bosh decisionis made.


parsons has already removed his rockets background and shit of his twitter page so maybe its imminent.

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197. "pretty much...like you said, the only issue is the tax"
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if bosh doesn't accept, chandler kills their flexibility and isn't worth it imo

-The Knicksā€™ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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198. "why do that when cheaper options abound? "
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Ariza/Deng should be the target if they get Bosh if you ask me.

  

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201. "The cheaper option doesn't improve the team per se cause the"
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cap'll be busted. At that point, you just want the best player, unless we talking lux tax.

-The Knicksā€™ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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258. "If Houston signs Bosh"
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They won't have the cap space to go after guys like Ariza and Deng. They could only sign Parsons because they control his Bird Rights. Giving Bosh the max caps the Rockets out, can only sign players to vet minimum and maybe a mini MLE after that.

  

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202. "at first I was like "who the fuck is CP25?" he needs another nickname"
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203. "lol me too."
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210. "Right?"
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I mean CP3 is only barely a nickname, nobody's calling that dude CP25.

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204. "Wait, Who? Chandler Parsons? If u sign Bosh, he's a Mav. That's a given."
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Did I read your question wrong or something?

You need to trade us a first-rounder just to take Lin in order to sign Bosh, you really think now you're getting him and also matching Cuban's offer?

LOL, not happening.

  

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205. "RE: Wait, Who? Chandler Parsons? If u sign Bosh, he's a Mav. That's a gi..."
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>Did I read your question wrong or something?
>
>You need to trade us a first-rounder just to take Lin in order
>to sign Bosh, you really think now you're getting him and also
>matching Cuban's offer?

But thats all cap related. Parsons is RFA so we can match whatever he gets and go over the cap. We have to trade Lin to create space for Bosh, but after Bosh signs, I believe we'll be maxed out. I dont know if we can get Deng or Ariza--but we can go over the cap to match Parsons.

We'd still have

Bev
Harden
Parsons
Bosh
Tjones
Dwight
Casspi
Capelo
Canaan
Covington
Troy
Nick Johnson

I might have to put in Minutes I expect every player to play so RBO doesnt have a fuckin heart attack.

Oh wait in my configuration above I have 12 starters and 0 bench OMGOMGOMG




>
>LOL, not happening.

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206. "LMAO if you think Dwight is coming off the bench (c) RBO"
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basically, lol (c) Thatruth

>Bev
Harden
Parsons
Bosh
Tjones
Dwight
Casspi
Capelo
Canaan
Covington
Troy
Nick Johnson

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207. "LOLOLOLZ"
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209. "RE: LOLOLOLZ"
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http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/285485/resized_jesus-says-meme-generator-awww-how-cute-nice-try-though-a97f93.jpg

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211. "smh if you really did that yourself"
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-The Knicksā€™ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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212. "cmon he just got the Samsung yesterday"
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he's still having trouble downloading the Bron app and changing his ringtone to Nelly

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213. "#TeamiPhone"
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219. "Supposedly they have to move T-Jones to keep CP25 & offer Bosh max $$"
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and here's larry last night on twitter :

https://twitter.com/LarryCoon

So let's do some math. Suppose Houston dumps Lin & Asik with $0 coming back. They renounce Daniels, Garcia & Hamilton. They waive Casspi
...Beverley, Covington & Powell. They keep QO to Parsons & Capela's draft rights. They have Dwight, Harden, Jones, Motiejunas & Canaan.
..With that configuration, they can give Bosh $16,427,992. Pretty short of his $20,644,400 max.
So let's renounce Capela & Parsons. Cap room rises to $19,279,451. STILL short of a max offer, and they don't have rights to Parsons.
To keep Parsons' rights & still sign Bosh to max, they have to dump another $3,732,744 in guaranteed salary. That's Jones AND Motiejunas.
So to get Bosh at max AND keep Parsons, Daryl Morey just needs to dump Asik, Lin, Jones AND Motiejunas with no salary coming he other way,
...along with throwing overboard everything that's not bolted down.

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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232. "The Wiz need to jump on that. Keep Nene's mins down. T-Jones..."
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replace Booker.

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215. "we can replace cp2.5 tho..."
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hes easily replaceable

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217. "With what money?"
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236. "its not about money..its about a player"
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theres other cheap players capable of doing what parsons does...hes nothing special..

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239. "With what money?"
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If you max out bosh you have no more money (in the cap).

The only reason we can pay Parsons is because hes RFA and he can go over the cap to match him.

If were maxed out we cant even sign Luke walton for 1 million a year

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243. "we still have players on the roster that can play"
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220. "Rox will match if bosh signs"
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https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/487258303752568832

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247. "I doubt it. That would be repeater tax territory "
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That's not $1 for $1 anymore

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199. "The Lebron Decision Amazing Detective work (via designer at my job)"
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"Wednesday night we saw some tweets speculate that Sheridan’s source is lebronjames.com’s web developer. Makes sense–this person would be burdened with building up the announcement via extra pages with, presumably, sparkling new content.

So, we ran a Firebug across lebronjames.com in an attempt to look at the source code.

Right now, there are pages on his site that were built Tuesday. There is no content on them, but they do have a color palette.

ffbb42, 012a60, 870038, ffffff "
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http://brojackson.com/basketball/the-source-code-on-lebronjames-com-comes-up-cleveland

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200. "CARCOSA IS A CLEVELANDER Y'ALL, MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE!"
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HOPE!
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208. "lolz."
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216. "that's pretty impressive, actually"
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*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

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229. "or, he's got pages built"
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doesn't mean they'll go up. just means cleveland has a chance. if he stays w/ miami, no need to change anything.

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218. "Does the silly FILF I was right dance (Parsons)"
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The Rockets will match Chandler Parson's offer sheet if they are able to land Chris Bosh, according to Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle.
Parsons signed a 3-year, $45 million offer sheet with the Mavericks on Wednesday and the Rockets will match that offer sheet if they are able to pry Bosh away from the Heat. The puzzle pieces get a little more complicated if Bosh stays with Miami and matching the offer sheet would become a "close call", according to Feigen. LeBron James' destination would seemingly be the first domino that will set off this chain of events, so we'll be closely monitoring his decision and its concurrent ripple effects.

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221. "I'm confused by this"
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take on Bosh's salary, get another great player = definitely keep Parsons

striking out on Bosh, not adding another great player after a 1st rnd exit = maybe let him walk?

can you explain this to me?

  

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223. "we discussed above but if you get bosh you are capped out"
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so if your owner will eat the luxury tax you get the best player available regardless of price tag.

If bosh doesn't accept, you still have cap space. Do you want to blow it on Chandler?

-The Knicksā€™ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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224. "got ya, figured it was something like that"
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so bosh definitely has to sign first, that's right...


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227. "yeah if bosh signs, hou is over or close enough that they can't"
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do anything significant.

not sure what bosh 1st year salary would be but i'd assume their big 3 would be around 55mil this season.

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228. "still gotta dump Lin"
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the fact they haven't traded lin now before securing bosh suggests if bosh falls thru they might decide to keep lin (then match parsons)

edit: nvm hoopshype is showing lin contract as 14 mil cap hit: http://hoopshype.com/salaries/houston.htm , that shit wrong

  

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230. "i think trades can't become official till the moratorium is over?"
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231. "oh how jarret jack get traded? "
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237. "because today is the first day it can go through"
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and it went through today. it just got announced early.

and that had a ticking clock (BOS trade exception runs out) where the lin one doesn't.
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ShawndmeSlanted
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235. "Guys can officially sign today."
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Theres another layer supposedly from clutchfans that teh Asik deal isnt done yet.

NO has to move someone to clear the space, so if that takes too long that can foil everytjing too.

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ShawndmeSlanted
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234. "The word all along is Lin trade is contingent on Max player"
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>the fact they haven't traded lin now before securing bosh
>suggests if bosh falls thru they might decide to keep lin
>(then match parsons)
>
>edit: nvm hoopshype is showing lin contract as 14 mil cap hit:
>http://hoopshype.com/salaries/houston.htm , that shit wrong


So if they dont get a max guy they keep him.
How does that suggest they match parsons?

Itd be a totally emotional Morey decision if he matches Parsons and handcuffs the franchise. Matching Parsons as our 3rd best player immediately hurts us for the next 3 years.

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southphillyman
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250. "yea i edited"
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hoopshype had fucked up numbers in there
i was operating under the assumption they wouldn't have enough dough to get someone equivalent to parsons if lin stayed

  

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ConcreteCharlie
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283. "It makes a lot of sense to me, thought about it last night ..."
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even if parsons is overpriced, he's a good player and an asset that they will be able to retain now but they won't be able to add another one like him once bosh is there. so it's a classic case of being forced to overpay in order to keep your own players, but it makes their team better.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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LA2Philly
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249. "Ooo ok. I was wrong, Les is ready to eat some serious tax bills"
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FILF
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259. "If the OS doesn't immediately affect the cap-hold then it's Morey's call"
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I already explained the logic concerning why I stated they can't offer Bosh the max if Parsons signs the offer-sheet (blame Shamsports): http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2348048&mesg_id=2348048&page=#2348402

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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celery77
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233. "STEVE BLAKE + LAKE OSWEGO (pdx) RE-UNITED ONCE AGAIN!"
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'zers upping the whiteage a powerful amount this summer!

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HOPE!
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celery77
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240. "STEVE BLAKE YOU GUYS! STEVE BLAKE! HIM + KOBE ARE BFFs!"
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Nm

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HOPE!
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FILF
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260. "He's taking over Earl Watsons vet bench warming duties"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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ShawndmeSlanted
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241. "Morey hiding and blocking up all Rockets mailboxes"
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Interesting to see Donnie saying he can help both sides win with a S&T though...

I can just see the comedy.

Remember the stories about the Knicks hiding when the Lin deal was happening.


The Dallas Mavericks haven't submitted Chandler Parsons' offer sheet to the Rockets as of Thursday afternoon.
This is good news for the Rockets as don't have the 72-hour countdown ticking as they wait for Chris Bosh's decision on their max contract offer. The Mavericks are reportedly waiting to submit the offer sheet in case a sign-and-trade materializes that general manager Donnie Nelson thinks could help both teams. "There’s ways that both sides can win, so it’s just an ongoing process," Nelson said on Thursday. It is assumed that Houston will match Parsons' offer sheet if Bosh decides to join the Rockets, but this situation is just another that has been put in LeBron stand-by mode.

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ShawndmeSlanted
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242. "Non-Jewish white GM helping each other out conspiracy (c) Truth"
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LAbeathustla
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244. "morey should be concerned about firing mchales ass"
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than keeping fkng chandler parsons...

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Cold Truth
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245. "Uh... fuck that. Sign him to a nice, long, expensive extension. "
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Please & thanks.

  

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ShawndmeSlanted
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246. "He should be more concerned about that than anything"
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Cause short of Bron coming,

Mchale aint winning jack shit.

Fuck him

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ShawndmeSlanted
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248. "Didnt know you were a CP25 Hater though"
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I agree 15 mil is too much---everyone does.

But Parsons has been a crucial piece of the team past few seasons.

Kosher Sam posted about his stats last 2 years- he's in good company and he also helped us get Dwight last summer.


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LAbeathustla
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261. "naw shawn..i love cp25...but hes not worth that money"
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true hes been a crucial piece..but his talent was a surprise from the start.. he still disappears in games... and theres prolly a few players we can plug in that spot at a much cheaper price...

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252. "https://twitter.com/netw3rk/status/487279453316587520"
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https://twitter.com/netw3rk/status/487279453316587520

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dula dibiasi
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256. "SORRY ABOUT THE JAGERMEISTER STAINS"
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