A great start.

Kendall is already going off the rails with manic energy and I wonder if his casual reference to the crime at the finale of season one ("The Juice is loose!") is a sign of things to come.
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and I'm ready for the ride. Also eager to see exactly how things implode with him and Naomi bc that's inevitable.


Shiv's vulnerability with Sannaa's lawyer character was delicious and uncomfortable at the same time, just because her revealing herself like that is so rare. Curious on whether we'll get anymore information on their friendship(is that the right word?) or not.


I remain Team Stewy, but it's sadly unclear how often he'll be appearing this season.

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Explains why she was so desperate

The dialogue In this show is such a blast. The way they all talk boldly but really say nothing, especially Kendall, is so so so fun.

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this nigga is BIG trippin lol.

also Shiv/the lawyer def either chomped down on each other or one of em stole the others man.

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… might be his most demonic moment on the show to date. Absolutely completely off the rails on his ego trip.

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>"The juice is loose baby !!!"

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>A great start.
>
>Kendall is already going off the rails with manic energy and I
>wonder if his casual reference to the crime at the finale of
>season one ("The Juice is loose!") is a sign of things to
>come.

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Kendall is definitely big tripping. Wonder how many episodes before he cracks. It's funny Shiv still doesn't see she's being played, as smart as she is. But I can't wait to see how far she lets Tom dangle in the wind before he flips on her. Almost feel sorry for the boor bastard, but he's horrible too.

Where the hell is Marcia?

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but it took about 5 minutes to think god i've missed all these terrible people terribly

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like i completely forgot Kendall did kill someone

and cotdamn I forgot what a run this show was/is on

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i took it as him basically telling Logan he doesn't want it, even though he opens up with saying it should be him.
But i thought when he offered up Gerri, Logan could tell Roman didn't *actually* want to do it so he removed him from the mix.

but the couple takes I heard were that he did want it, but by showing some support for Gerri, it proved to Logan he's not enough of a killer for the job.

Logan did seem to be pressing for him before that.
I feel like most people on the show underestimate Roman intelligence wise. But at the same time Logan over-estimates his potential. He's smarter than most people think, but it gets drowned out by him being such a a little ass asshole kid

The waffling disgusted him

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If you're not a killer Logan won't fuck with you. Roman is getting the smarts, but won't quite stick the knife. Shiv keeps fumbling the ball thinking she's smarter than she is (though she's making Tom's soul die slow). Kendall does, but doesn't exactly know how to strike the blow correctly (witness the failed coup with Stewie). Plus, he's a (accidental) killer, which is always gonna hang over him.

Man this is a terrible family...

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reaction to the way they treat Connor. I felt for him in my chest.

GET MONEY MARCIA

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In the show, he's essentially the town fool, so I'm guessing he's more or less a benign presence in this world.

But he represents a particular brand of privileged, libertarian scum that is, IMO, more insidious than anything anyone else on this show portrays.

I'm sure his delusions of grandeur come from a wounded place, but he's the one person who hasn't shown any redemptive qualities. The rest of this horrible family have displayed at least some likeable quality somewhere along the line.

Even Roman's American Psycho Lite act is interwoven with a certain sardonic charm, and the odd, momentary, savant-like display of intelligence and competency.

But Connor really doesn't have any of that. There have been a couple references to some dark shit that happened with his mom, and while that makes him somewhat of an empathetic character, I can't think of anything about him that makes him even slightly endearing.

>I'm sure his delusions of grandeur come from a wounded place,
>but he's the one person who hasn't shown any redemptive
>qualities. The rest of this horrible family have displayed at
>least some likeable quality somewhere along the line.

He somehow believes that the fact that he's kept Waystar at arm's length has made him more righteous than his siblings and the rest of his family. But then he's done nothing else to actually prove it. Unlike say Greg's grandfather (name escapes him) who, for all his own faults, at least spends most of his time loudly denouncing Waystar and Logan even to his face, and taking part in his various philanthropic efforts.


>Even Roman's American Psycho Lite act is interwoven with a
>certain sardonic charm, and the odd, momentary, savant-like
>display of intelligence and competency.

There's all that, and also his brief (very) brief bouts of decency, at least with family, i.e. when he said "it makes me uncomfortable" regarding Shiv's letter about Kendall, as well as when he eviscerated Shiv for being more concerned with propping up a nearly-dead Logan at the shareholders' meeting than the fact that her father was dying in front of her eyes.


>But Connor really doesn't have any of that. There have been a
>couple references to some dark shit that happened with his
>mom, and while that makes him somewhat of an empathetic
>character, I can't think of anything about him that makes him
>even slightly endearing.

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felt like a much worse series, with dialogue that wasn't snappy or smart at all

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So much back and forth. Especially between Roman and Shiv. She got him in his feelings so easily.

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As much as someone who didn’t grow up in that lifestyle anyways. He seems
Colder or more calculating with Shiv.

I think the painful realization that he is just another object to her has fully settled and what’s left is the guy we see now. The actor has done an amazing job too. Communicates sommuch with just his eyes.

> I think the painful realization that he is just another
>object to her has fully settled and what’s left is the guy
>we see now.

I don't think it's fully settled at all. Didn't take much for him to be all baby talk "I love youuuuu" again once they got on the phone with eachother lol. He's gonna crash hard again.


>The actor has done an amazing job too.
>Communicates sommuch with just his eyes.

No question here. He does an incredible job.

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...I didn't realize that the show basically started with Kendall trying to rally his siblings after Logan decides not to elevate him to CEO and the whole thing falling apart when he suggests that Kendall should be CEO and they will be under him.

The more things change...

who told Logan?

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which made me think it wasn't her

and Tom only knew Shiv was there, right?

He's the only one who knew where they were before Shiv and Roman made their phone calls.

>who told Logan?

Can someone please explain the hug and window shots comments between Shiv and Logan at the end?

I understand he is teasing her with a role in the company. I don’t understand what he meant in response to Shiv’s comments about hugs and windows.

She just stayed in the car. It's brought up again in ep.3, as Shiv won't do the puff piece on how she loves her dad and passes off to Roman

Honestly I'm not even 100% sure it was Logan that sent the donuts...

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but I guess that's to be expected after the first two seasons

Feds gave him a gift...for now

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He's addicted to the spotlight and the attention and as long as he can control things, he's fine. So far he knows exactly what his father is going to do and has been playing him like a fiddle. He just didn't count on Shiv reacting the way she did with the statement (even Logan seemed to disapprove of her response).

But yeah, the Feds showing up certainly saved him from trending negatively on Twitter. Waystar gets to look like the assholes for a few more news cycles.

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he's always trying too hard, and it seems like the only people who don't feel visibly weirded out around him on some level are his own family, (and maybe Naomi and the watch dealer guy)

it's hard to even just completely hate him. just because most people who are that level of douche at least appear comfortable in their own skin. I feel so uneasy watching him. Strong is crushing it.

I don’t get the sense she cares about him at all. They are just kindred spirits

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he's kind of easy to hate but out of the whole crew i guess he's the most likable when he's not trying so hard to be cool or a strong leader.

it's not so much about actions. everyone hated Janice Soprano more than than Tony, and Janice never killed anyone (who didn't deserve it).

this show is unique in that you can't really get behind anyone, but in moments you may find yourself siding with Logan/Roman/Shiv/Kendal, but there's no hero or even anti-hero

Kendall is terrible, but he's so needy and clueless about anything outside his bubble. I keep thinking of him trying to dap up the guy on the loading dock on his way in through the back lol.

also noticed, the killing has come up in every episode now. first the juice is loose, then logan with marcia, now the return of the private security/fixer guy from that night.


>he's kind of easy to hate but out of the whole crew i guess
>he's the most likable when he's not trying so hard to be cool
>or a strong leader.

>also noticed, the killing has come up in every episode now.
>first the juice is loose, then logan with marcia, now the
>return of the private security/fixer guy from that night.

I mean it's really the only way for this season to ultimately go/end right ? For Logan to use that situation to get himself back on top ? It's the ultimate leverage.

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because there will be nothing at that point to keep Kendall from bringing him down with him for the cover up. That's what he seemed to be saying to Marcia who i guess knows everything?

but yea, its definitely gonna be a thing

I feel like Logan could find a way to scapegoat others for the coverup, but either way great point. That's a part of that story I hadn't really been considering somehow haha.

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...the most sympathetic Roy.

By default. (You can never really count Conner).

his reaction to that letter. his body language reminded me of the hostile takeover meeting when it was his turn to vote. He loves to talk shit but he visibly shrivels up when it comes time to hurt someone

Shiv being the total opposite. She called out Logan for putting dirt out on Kendall's drug problem last season, but the second he embarrassed her, didn't hesitate to nuke him

I'm a little disappointed with how they've written him so far this season. Last season, he seemed to turn the corner, at least in terms of maturity, after being held hostage in that country. So far this season he's been the same sarcastic, petulant child. he was during season 1 and 3/4 of season 2.

However, with this last episode, you can see some of the stuff behind his attitude and what helped shape him.

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... that you speak of, and I had the same suspicion as to why he'd have passed on signing on to that press release: that the hostage situation scared him into re-evaluating himself a bit.

His sarcasm and petulance is a defense mechanism that I don't think will ever fully subside, as you mentioned at the end of your post.

But I think in previous years, in a similar situation, he may have been more likely to sign that press release.

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he's still a snarky manboy but there are some slight signs of growth and humanity

i don't know how much of him not signing was hedging (he even said i don't think it's good for me), but you could tell he thought it was a little too fucked up

>i don't know how much of him not signing was hedging (he even
>said i don't think it's good for me), but you could tell he
>thought it was a little too fucked up

I'd even argue that him saying "I don't think it's good for me" was cover for the real reason, which he said out loud too of course. But like he felt like he needed to say something to that effect to maybe try and prove that he was a killer, too.

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Anytime Roman is in a position to oppose Logan in any way, all that bravado disappears.

So I've always read that as him being fearful of Logan's wrath, and not wanting to make choices that would put him on Logan's hit list.