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"Law of the Land - Man/ Law of the Sea - Money : Satanism 101"


  

          

I'll start slow...
let others weigh in...
and boom.

money is governed by the law of the sea.
banks and courtrooms are one in the same.

Man is ruled by the law of the Land.
Words. The whisperer. Shaytaan. Ibliss.

Money is ruled by the Law of the Sea.
Mertime Law.
Mer.
Merchant
Mercantile
Merrtime.

Currency.
Current- Sea.

Banks. Control the flow of the Current.
Banks. Control the flow of currency.

A judge.
a credit move on your money is a Judgement.

Paying Bail.
or Ba'al.

A judge rules from a Bench.
Bench in most languages means "Bank"
"Pay your debt to society"

Offshore accounts.

law strikes can be one, two, three counts against you.
or Accounts.
Bank accounts.

However, not to loose course...

courtooms and banks are synonymous.
In court...
you share your words to testify.
Testify comes from the african terms of judgement using one's testicles.
hence the phrase "all I have are my words and my balls".

When you go to a bank you must see the "Teller".

Again, I'll start off... slow.
and let others investigate (please do)
and weigh in.

All money is governed by the laws of the Sea.
peace.

  

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what are the other aspects of the law of the land?
Aug 06th 2008
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RE: what are the other aspects of the law of the land?
Aug 06th 2008
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Bank of America
Aug 06th 2008
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      okay... excellent..
Aug 06th 2008
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           citi is italian for cite which is the root of city, citation and citizen
Aug 06th 2008
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                Bingo.
Aug 07th 2008
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how is capitalism satanic?
Aug 07th 2008
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      fascism makes 1 man god, capitalism makes $ god
Aug 07th 2008
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      RE: fascism makes 1 man god, capitalism makes $ god
Aug 07th 2008
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           yawn.
Aug 07th 2008
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           way to ignore him calling you out.
Aug 08th 2008
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           fox...goodness
Aug 09th 2008
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      so your suggesting there are only two forms of living?
Aug 07th 2008
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           RE: so your suggesting there are only two forms of living?
Aug 07th 2008
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                and being your typical bitchy self in the process...
Aug 07th 2008
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RE: Law of the Land - Man/ Law of the Sea - Money : Satanism 101
Aug 06th 2008
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no worries... keep researching.. I'll point out
Aug 06th 2008
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      RE: no worries... keep researching.. I'll point out
Aug 06th 2008
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      RE: no worries... keep researching.. I'll point out
Aug 06th 2008
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*checks my watch (what watch)* looks like its just about that time
Aug 06th 2008
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hahaha... yesssuh.
Aug 06th 2008
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      Knights of Templar - Bar Association
Aug 06th 2008
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      The Law or Legal defintion of the word Human Being...
Aug 06th 2008
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      Ballentine's Law Dictionary; person vs natural person
Aug 06th 2008
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      good to know some lawyers are fighting it
Aug 06th 2008
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      debt is worship
Aug 07th 2008
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      precisely.. Debit Cards/VISA
Aug 07th 2008
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      speaking of Merrill, you know he did the poetry in WTC 7?
Aug 12th 2008
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           Jacob Eckstein filmed the inside of the new WTC7 *link*
Aug 12th 2008
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                yeup. I knew about that.
Aug 12th 2008
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                     and the twin pillars are becoming one freedom tower
Aug 12th 2008
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                          RE: and the twin pillars are becoming one freedom tower
Aug 12th 2008
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                               ah ok...8-8-8 is thought to represent Jesus in Greek per the bible
Aug 12th 2008
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                                    may this thread never end
Aug 12th 2008
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                                    Pricesly... now...
Aug 12th 2008
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                                    888 through the years
Aug 13th 2008
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                                         exactly...
Aug 13th 2008
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                                              ok i wondered why with the 666, 777, 888
Aug 13th 2008
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                                                   that's the intent
Aug 13th 2008
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                                                        ok so if 777 is god, and 999 is infinity than 888 must be chaos
Aug 13th 2008
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                                                        9 to the 9th power of 9
Aug 13th 2008
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                                                             Aha! everytime we have an olympics, we vote on presidents
Aug 13th 2008
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                                                                  Bingo... and don't think for one minute the speech in Berlin
Aug 13th 2008
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                                                                       i didn't see that speech
Aug 21st 2008
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                                    oh and it does ...
Aug 12th 2008
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                                         i'm a little curious about the fallen arches...
Aug 12th 2008
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                                              Aha... excellent. And those Arches fell.. exactly... when?
Aug 13th 2008
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                                                   aw man don't tell me it's when McCain was there w/ his wife
Aug 13th 2008
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                                                        Exactly. The White Buffalo. Now the White Wolf.
Aug 15th 2008
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                                                             Frank Wolf as McCain's VP
Aug 15th 2008
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                                                                  haha... well done again...
Aug 15th 2008
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                                                                       2012
Aug 15th 2008
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                                                                            precisely... Obama has got it...
Aug 15th 2008
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                                                                                 how would you assess that w/ the mayan prophecies?
Aug 15th 2008
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                                                                                 Hunab Ku...
Aug 15th 2008
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                                                                                 but isn't the Pahana supposed to be someone to help?
Aug 15th 2008
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      RE: debt is worship
Aug 09th 2008
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      giving away power to the false gods instead of being god
Aug 07th 2008
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      precisely..it's the counter doctrine...
Aug 07th 2008
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           i remember reading about the Wendy Williams interview
Aug 08th 2008
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                Do you remember recently the pope giving the horns to a crowd
Aug 08th 2008
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                     the bird's nest symbolizes birth of the phoenix correct?
Aug 08th 2008
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      no more beating around the bush n/m
Aug 07th 2008
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Hmm...
Aug 06th 2008
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Yawn.
Aug 07th 2008
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      Exactly!
Aug 08th 2008
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           Nah not really. You see...
Aug 08th 2008
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                you catchin' feelin's
Aug 09th 2008
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                     yawn again.
Aug 11th 2008
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RE: Law of the Land - Man/ Law of the Sea - Money : Satanism 101
Aug 07th 2008
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you just love putting people in boxes don't you? nm
Aug 07th 2008
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In this lifetime he does... in his previous lifetime he sold slaves.
Aug 07th 2008
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      RE: In this lifetime he does... in his previous lifetime he sold slaves.
Aug 07th 2008
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      yet common wealth is common poverty
Aug 07th 2008
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           right.. we can exploit them and govern them...
Aug 07th 2008
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                exactly...they're pirates of the carribbean
Aug 07th 2008
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                     Bingo.
Aug 07th 2008
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                     RE: exactly...they're pirates of the carribbean
Aug 09th 2008
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                          no no.. .if I spoon feed then...
Aug 11th 2008
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                               i'm not sure how to move past this subject or deeper therein
Aug 11th 2008
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                                    Start with Capricorn... The Winter... Court Seals... Judgement
Aug 11th 2008
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                                         ok so pluto has entered into capricorn this year = breaking down
Aug 11th 2008
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      RE: In this lifetime he does... in his previous lifetime he sold slaves.
Aug 07th 2008
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           good thing McCain doesn't stand for anything like that....
Aug 07th 2008
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           fox I'm not sure you understand...
Aug 07th 2008
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                Order of the Eastern Star
Aug 07th 2008
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                Secret Masonry symbolism found in classic paintings
Aug 08th 2008
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                     bingo.. thumb to the small of the hand handshake
Aug 08th 2008
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                     Secret Masonry symbolism in Celebrity photographs
Aug 08th 2008
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                          RE: Secret Masonry symbolism in Celebrity photographs
Aug 08th 2008
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                               it brings this westside representing into a whole new light
Aug 08th 2008
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                RE: fox I'm not sure you understand...
Aug 08th 2008
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                     First of all... you and your personal questions of any kind
Aug 08th 2008
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                          RE: First of all... you and your personal questions of any kind
Aug 08th 2008
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                          i didn't want to say this b4 bc i had to be sure - but u r a racist
Aug 08th 2008
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                          RE: i didn't want to say this b4 bc i had to be sure - but u r a racist
Aug 11th 2008
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                               disagreeing is fine, that can reveal different sides
Aug 11th 2008
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                               RE: disagreeing is fine, that can reveal different sides
Aug 14th 2008
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                                    haha.. slacker? So your assuming that I'm a slacker-lazy?
Aug 15th 2008
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                                    oh yeah because sooo many slackers drink 40s and hit blunts
Aug 15th 2008
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                                         exactly.
Aug 15th 2008
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                                         you know you are really reaching when...
Aug 15th 2008
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                                              No it sounds like you are the one who has to 'get over it'...
Aug 15th 2008
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                                              RE: No it sounds like you are the one who has to 'get over it'...
Aug 15th 2008
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                                                   do you prefer to be called prejudiced instead?
Aug 18th 2008
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                                                        he'll take "Ignorant" for a thousand Alex...
Aug 18th 2008
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                                                             nod to The Crying game...that HE is a SHE nm
Aug 18th 2008
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                                              i am good, therefore you must be bad is the core of racism
Aug 15th 2008
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                                                   RE: i am good, therefore you must be bad is the core of racism
Aug 15th 2008
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                                                        so you're unwilling to look at your views from another side
Aug 18th 2008
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                                                        Actually I beg to differ. Sounds like you DO need someone to tell u
Aug 18th 2008
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                               it's not the fact that you disagree...
Aug 11th 2008
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                                    RE: it's not the fact that you disagree...
Aug 14th 2008
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                                         My ridiculous lifestyle? Your ASS-uming alot aren't you fox?
Aug 15th 2008
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                                              ROFLMAO @ go work for UPS
Aug 15th 2008
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                                              RE: My ridiculous lifestyle? Your ASS-uming alot aren't you fox?
Aug 15th 2008
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                          RE: First of all... you and your personal questions of any kind
Aug 08th 2008
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                          RE: First of all... you and your personal questions of any kind
Aug 20th 2008
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                               please explain.
Aug 20th 2008
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                                    RE: please explain.
Aug 20th 2008
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                                         you have got to be out of your mind..
Aug 20th 2008
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                                              Ummm...Aqua.....i'm with you on this one.
Aug 20th 2008
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                                              Now I actually like...
Aug 20th 2008
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                                                   it depends. in the spiritual life, do we serve it or does it serve us?
Aug 21st 2008
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                                                   RE: it depends. in the spiritual life, do we serve it or does it serve u...
Aug 21st 2008
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                                                        that makes sense and puts it in perspective
Aug 21st 2008
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                                                   nice tie in to Mau777's post of scientific proof...
Aug 21st 2008
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                          RE: First of all... you and your personal questions of any kind
Aug 08th 2008
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RE: Law of the Land - Man/ Law of the Sea - Money : Satanism 101
Aug 08th 2008
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The Red Brotherhood
Aug 08th 2008
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Currency > talk. Just try getting money instead of talking crazy.
Aug 09th 2008
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//// actually Currency == Talk n/m
Aug 09th 2008
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      RE: //// actually Currency == Talk n/m
Aug 20th 2008
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Kevan
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1. "what are the other aspects of the law of the land?"
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land as in real estate? property?
as in owned by England?

so is the law of the land the law of property? and man is ruled by the law of the land because man is considered property to the Crown of England?

the law of the sea being the international bankers and they control all of the nations by controlling the banks and currencies?

I always knew capitalism was Satanic but thanks to destee and your posts, I've been Satanism in a different yet brighter light.

fantastic post!

  

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AquamansScience
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3. "RE: what are the other aspects of the law of the land?"
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bench in Dutch is bank, zitbank
bench in German is Labortisch, Sitzbank, Bank, Richter, Bank
bench in Latin is scamnum
bench in Norwegian is benk
bench in Portuguese is banco


now... anyone care to research the history of

the United States of America corp

and/or

The Bank of America....

or the Judges Association...

?

  

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7. "Bank of America"
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that was interesting.

Bank of America fka Bank America was the first bank to bring banking to the middle class.

So its purpose was to put mainstream America into the system

Visa was actually the first debit card though it was known under a different name originally, BankAmericard.

They consolidated a lot of banks which was part of their vision. One of them from Seattle was called SeaFirst.

that's all i feel like gleaning at this time.

  

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9. "okay... excellent.."
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now when you get the chance.. .

cover the idea of City Bank/ Citibank....

yeah... Seafirst...

I'll explain the worshiping of the water god...
in relationship to Satanism...

money...
christianity (the fish)
the pope (who wears a fish on his hat)
and how that translates into banking and law

the Knights of Templar... setting up the first Bar Association in America...

keep reading and researching these points..

i won't feed you...
cause if I do... you won't believe me.

keep in mind..
to protect money... what is used?

that's right. Watermarks.

  

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14. "citi is italian for cite which is the root of city, citation and citizen"
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Wed Aug-06-08 07:25 PM by Kevan

  

          

>now when you get the chance.. .
>
>cover the idea of City Bank/ Citibank....

cite means to summon or cause to move. the Old French is "citer" and Latin "citare"
city - Old French "cite"
citation - Old French "citation"
citizen - Old French "citeain"

so Citibank is the Citizen's bank which means basically the same as Bank of America. i'm not sure specifically.

I checked on America and something interesting on that - The name Amerigo is Germanic, said to derive from Gothic Amalrich, literally work-ruler or designator of tasks.

also of note, labor in the wider sense is taken by the equivalent of the English "travail" meaning "body of laborers considered as a class" (usually contrasted to capitalists) is from 1839; Labour "the British Labour Party." I'm thinking we're quite possibly connected somehow to the British Labour party?

>
>I'll explain the worshiping of the water god...
>in relationship to Satanism...
>
>money...
>christianity (the fish)
>the pope (who wears a fish on his hat)

I'm familiar with Dagon represented on the Pope's mitre and the carry-over into Christianity as the Piscean age continues with fish throughout the writings. I think I know where you are going with this. I'm a little familiar with this information but you've laid it out in connection to now (which I couldn't see before thus went back to trusting religion) beautifully. are you saying that the entire priesthood of Christianity/Judaism is not something unique and separate as taught and therefore thought, but a continuation of the same group that has taken a different identity due to the shift in astrological ages from Taurean (fertility cults), Aries/Ares/Aryan to Piscean (Christianity)?

>and how that translates into banking and law

yeah I'd like to see that
>
>the Knights of Templar... setting up the first Bar Association
>in America...

don't know how that connects but if the courts and banks are basically the same and the BAR is British Accredited Registry, then I'd think it was all set up to keep paying the Crown of England since we are still in debt to him for covering our debt from bankruptcy. Also since the Vatican controls the Crown and they pay tithes to the Vatican which I believe we the citizens are paying.

also I know British is derived from covenant which is "brith"
like in B'nai B'rith.
>
>keep in mind..
>to protect money... what is used?

well it's not the FDIC lol. human capital. we get birth certificates since we are birthed in the womb which is similar to a ship being at the dock or better yet, berth. They dock our pay if we get out of line and the dock is where the accused stand in court and they read us on the court docket. dock originally meant "to lead" and was from the Latin "ducere" which means duke.

to bring this full circle, cite meaning summon or to cause to move in the thesaurus has order and command as synonyms. So our dukes/leaders cite us, the citizens with citations to the dock/court where we are accused. Accuse is from the Latin "accusare" which is "to call to account." You've already explained account.


>that's right. Watermarks.

ahh that's right. very nice.

my source was the Online Etymology Dictionary
http://www.etymonline.com

  

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23. "Bingo."
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Excellent.

  

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18. "how is capitalism satanic?"
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>I always knew capitalism was Satanic but thanks to destee and
>your posts, I've been Satanism in a different yet brighter
>light.


if you think capitalism is satanic then do you think facism is godly?

  

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20. "fascism makes 1 man god, capitalism makes $ god"
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Thu Aug-07-08 07:35 AM by Kevan

  

          

and it's pretty ironic of you to bring that up since you're voting for McCain who has support of the religious right while display fascist traits

but to answer your question: yes.

and this is true whether biblically or outside that realm

Satanism and Baal worship are closely knit

Baal was a fertility god
today our "fertility" is productivity
work, work, work
make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
every year make more $$$$$$$$$
which is raising prices for the same service, layoffs, corner-cutting
all for that almighty $
capitalism eventually leads to monopolies
which inevitably means totalitarianism

how is that different from fascim?

  

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foxnesn
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36. "RE: fascism makes 1 man god, capitalism makes $ god"
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>and it's pretty ironic of you to bring that up since you're
>voting for McCain who has support of the religious right while
>display fascist traits
>
>but to answer your question: yes.
>
>and this is true whether biblically or outside that realm
>
>Satanism and Baal worship are closely knit
>
>Baal was a fertility god
>today our "fertility" is productivity
>work, work, work
>make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
>every year make more $$$$$$$$$
>which is raising prices for the same service, layoffs,
>corner-cutting
>all for that almighty $
>capitalism eventually leads to monopolies
>which inevitably means totalitarianism
>
>how is that different from fascim?

monopolies are not bad if they are achieved through the voluntary payments of consumers. clearly you dont understand the difference between the free market (which i favor) and a controlled economy (which we in the US have and you favor which govt interference inadvertantly creates.)

regardless, there is nothing wrong with working hard to make yourself more comfortable so long as you do it without infringing on another persons right to also achieve that goal. this is basic stuff that you should know by now so i am not going to explain it all.

in the end, it sounds like you are suggesting that being productive is satanic while being lazy is godly. that is pretty interesting way of rationalizing your uselessness to our culture.

  

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39. "yawn."
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I'm sorry fox...
but this is pretty piss poor.

  

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45. "way to ignore him calling you out."
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Again.
Oh and the Bush Admin? Fascist.
thanks.

  

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62. "fox...goodness"
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>monopolies are not bad if they are achieved through the
>voluntary payments of consumers. clearly you dont understand
>the difference between the free market (which i favor) and a
>controlled economy (which we in the US have and you favor
>which govt interference inadvertantly creates.)
>
>regardless, there is nothing wrong with working hard to make
>yourself more comfortable so long as you do it without
>infringing on another persons right to also achieve that goal.
>this is basic stuff that you should know by now so i am not
>going to explain it all.
>
>in the end, it sounds like you are suggesting that being
>productive is satanic while being lazy is godly. that is
>pretty interesting way of rationalizing your uselessness to
>our culture.

do you really believe this? i'm hoping you're just joking us...

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24. "so your suggesting there are only two forms of living?"
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capitalism..
or facism?
and that there is nothing in between?
Oh the poor animals of the world. How will they survive without selling Tshirts "I the goat on this mountain... was here".

smirk.

  

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35. "RE: so your suggesting there are only two forms of living?"
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>capitalism..
>or facism?
>and that there is nothing in between?
>Oh the poor animals of the world. How will they survive
>without selling Tshirts "I the goat on this mountain... was
>here".
>
>smirk.


i wasnt suggesting anything *smirk* i was merely asking a question.

  

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42. "and being your typical bitchy self in the process..."
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smirk.
Listen.. obviously this isn't for you..
no love lost.
peace.

  

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2. "RE: Law of the Land - Man/ Law of the Sea - Money : Satanism 101"
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interestingly good post, as i'm seeing the tubes on this and the outstanding contributions via Destee(as Kevan mentioned), but have not been able to put it all together(oh well, one my shortcomings), thus i'll be checking in to see what the fam says for added insight.


Find your center, and fill yourself with light and heat (c)Morihei Ueshiba

  

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4. "no worries... keep researching.. I'll point out"
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Wed Aug-06-08 01:43 PM by AquamansScience

  

          

flags...

like

Sea Merchants
Merchandise
Mercantille Bank...

or the purchase of something
a 'sale' or 'sail'

ARTICLE XIV
FISCAL MATTERS
Sec. 1. CONTRACTS. The Board of Governors may authorize any officer or officers, agent or
employees to enter into any contract or execute and deliver any instrument in the name of and
upon behalf of the Association, and such authority may be general or confined to specific
instances.
Sec. 2. CHECKS AND DRAFTS. All checks, drafts or orders for the payment on money, notes
or other evidences of indebtedness issued in the name of the Association, shall be signed by such
officer or officers, agents or employees, and in such manner as shall from time to time be
determined by resolution of the Board of Governors. In the absence of such determination and
except as hereinabove provided, such instruments shall be signed by the Treasurer.
Sec. 3. UNAPPROPRIATED FUNDS. The Board of Governors may authorize the Treasurer to
invest unappropriated funds of the Association or such other funds as the Board of Governors
may direct, in bonds of the United States; warsavings
certificates of indebtedness issued by the
Secretary of the Treasury of the United States; in shares or share accounts of Savings and Loan
Associations organized under the laws of any State of the United States or Federal Savings and
Loan Associations upon approval of said investments by the Board of Governors and Treasurer,
the Secretariat shall purchase, monitor (the performance) and submit reports to the Board of
Governors, the Executive Committee and the Treasurer in monthly financial reports and
statements where such shares or share accounts are issued under and by virtue of the Federal
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Savings and Loan Insurance Corporation or in certificates of deposits with maturities not to
exceed six (6) months in national banks organized under the laws of the United States where such
certificates of deposit are insured under and by virtue of the Federal Deposit Insurance
Corporation. The Board of Governors elected and meeting at the close of each Annual
Conference of the Association may direct the Treasurer elected at such Annual Conference to
invest as stated herein such percentage of the surplus remaining from the prior fiscal year assets as
they deem appropriate for the financial welfare of the Association. Such investments directed by
the Board of Governors to be so invested shall become a part of a permanent fund of the
organization and no part or parcel of the corpus of such fund shall be used for any expenses of
any future fiscal year save only the interest from such funds. Provided, however, that
accumulations in said fund may be used for future expenditures upon the vote of twothirds
of the
Board of Governors at any regular or called meeting.
Sec. 4. GIFTS. The Board of Governors may accept upon behalf of the Association such
contributions, endowments, gifts, grants, bequests or devices for the general purpose or for any
special purpose of the corporation consistent with its charter.
Sec. 5. BOOKS AND RECORDS. The Association shall keep correct and complete books and
records of account, and shall keep minutes of the proceedings of the General Assembly, of the
Board of Governors, of the Executive Committee, of the Standing Committees and such other
minutes as may be appropriate. All books and records of the Association may be inspected by any
member of the Association for any proper purpose at any reasonable time.
Sec. 6. FISCAL YEAR. The period of the fiscal year of the Association shall be determined by
the Board of Governors.
Sec. 7. AUDIT. In addition to the annual financial report required to be furnished by the
Treasurer preceding the Annual Conference the President, with the approval of the Board of
Governors, may employ a certified public accountant to audit the books and records at any time.
Copies of all audits shall be furnished promptly to each member of the Board of Governors.
Sec. 8. BUDGET. The Board of Governors shall adopt an annual budget for the operations of
the Association. No budget, however, shall be adopted or appropriations made unless the total of
estimated revenues, income and funds available shall be equal to or in excess of such budget or
proposed appropriations.
Sec. 9. RIGHT TO INDEMNIFICATION. Each person who is threatened to be made a party to
or is otherwise involved in any actual or threatened action, suit, or proceeding, whether civil,
criminal, administrative, or investigative, or any other capacity while serving as a governor,
officer, or agent, by reason of the fact that he or she is or was a governor or officer of the
Association, whether the basis of such proceeding is alleged action in an official capacity as
governor, officer, or agent, shall be indemnified and held harmless by the Association, to the full
extent permitted by applicable law as then in effect, against all expense, liability, and loss
(including attorney’s fees, judgments, fines and amounts to be paid in settlement) actually and
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reasonably incurred or suffered by such person in connection therewith; provided, however, that
the Association shall indemnify any such person seeking indemnification in connection with a
proceeding (or part thereof) initiated by such person only if such proceeding (or part thereof) was
authorized by the board of governors of the Association. The right to indemnification conferred
in this Section shall be a contract right and shall include the right to be paid by the Association the
expenses incurred in defending any such proceeding in advance of its final deposition; provided,
however, that the payment of such expenses in advance of the final disposition of a proceeding
shall be made only upon delivery to the Association of an undertaking, by or on behalf of such
governor or officer, to repay all amounts so advanced if it shall ultimately be determined that such
governor or officer is not entitled to be indemnified under this section or otherwise. No
indemnification is intended hereby, for any act of any governor or officer that is beyond the scope
of his or her authority or which constitutes a crime or a personal tort.

  

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5. "RE: no worries... keep researching.. I'll point out"
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question...

research the relationship of the Judges Association
and the IRS...
if you can find it... smirk.

sidebar:
Hints...

L.A. County's is the state's only major urban system that charges for online searches.
Los Angeles County's court system is making millions of dollars charging for online access to records, turning its management of public information into a profit center.

No other major urban county in California charges for online access to court records that can help someone learn whether a doctor was sued for malpractice, a contractor was accused of shoddy work, or a prospective tenant had a habit of skipping out on the rent. There is no charge for an electronic search of civil lawsuits filed in Orange, San Diego, Riverside, San Bernardino, Ventura, and Santa Barbara counties. An identical search is also free in most counties of the San Francisco Bay Area, as well as in Sacramento, San Joaquin, Fresno, and Kern counties.

Tapping into the civil index "ought to be free," said Michael Roddy, executive officer of the San Diego County Superior Court, the second-largest trial court in California. Roddy and court officials in other counties said providing Internet access to court records is more efficient because the public doesn't have to drive to a courthouse, park, stand in line, and ask court clerks for assistance. "I prefer you don't have to come down to the courthouse," Roddy said.

And yet, the Los Angeles County Superior Court imposes a $4.75 fee for each name searched on the court's website, http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org.

and/or

Profile of Presiding Judge Robert Parkin...Los Angeles Superior Court corrupted by dishonest bench-warmer!
EmailWritten by julianayrs on Jun-3-08 12:06am
From: ijulian.blogspot.com

Face of corrupt Judge Robert Parkin, Los Angeles Superior Court...



In recent years, you probably heard about a slush fund down at the Los Angeles Superior Court house that Judges allegedly dipped into.

Well, Presiding Judge Robert Parkin was right in the thick of it.

In response to the allegations, an Insight news article at the time reported,

"Former presiding Judge Robert Parkin tells Insight that an account critics dub a slush fund is nothing more than "coffee-and-flowers" cash for the Los Angeles Superior Court Judges Association (LASCJA). But documents obtained by Insight show the bank account served a great many purposes and that the Judges' association, a private organization, did not pay taxes on funds run through the account for the benefit of its members - who also would be subject to taxes."

The informative feature went on to note,

"On the face of it, there appear to have been one or several laws that may have been broken, but without specific information, it is impossible to know what statutes are applicable," says Beth Miller, a spokeswoman for California Secretary of State Bill Jones. At the federal level a spokesman for the IRS who declined to be named said that an act of this nature "may fall under 72.061 of the tax code fraud and false statements section."

"How much money is involved? Plenty. Just one of the LASCJA Bank of America account statements shows this alleged "coffee-and-flowers" fund with a balance of $110,000, according to copies secured by Insight."

For those of you who are in the dark, Judge Parkin was a former cop who maneuvered his way into the upper echelons of the Los Angeles Superior Court over the years by engaging in questionable self-serving tactics. In retrospect, the intelligent few have only to read between the lines to fathom how this disreputable bench-warmer carved such a corrupt niche for himself in the innermost corridors of the Los Angeles Superior Court system.

I've heard the various allegations about the dishonest actions of the man - the questionable favors that are whispered about and the old-boy network he stokes the fires for in the inner sanctum - which at times - have been difficult to pin down.

The man is elusive. But, don't let the smiling congenial-looking face fool you.

In one clever ploy to damage the names of individuals, Judge Parkin allegedly permitted court actions to be filed against so-called defendants based on wild unsubstantiated (manufactured) evidence and languish in the court records for up to ten years without any service on the accused party. Why?

So the enemies of the unwitting parties could secretly point to the court records whenever they chose to discredit the individuals without their knowledge.

As a matter of law a party in any action has a reasonable expectation that they be enlightened of any pending actions and that the court - likewise - allow a proper defense to which the parties are entitled pursuant to due process of Law.

Under Parkin's jurisdiction, all manner of basic rights are violated, to the detriment of the individual without due consideration from the Justice system.

I also have hard-core evidence that establishes that Judge Parkin not only has been willing to manipulate court documents to protect his precious reputation - but, also hide, and quite possibly - destroy legal papers in a deceitful and dishonest effort to not only quash any record of his own "ignorance" of the law but conceal the fact he may have discriminated against a litigant - and just maybe -taken a bribe.

For instance, years ago a young IN PRO PER litigant appeared before Judge Parkin on a legal issue in a case in which he was a plaintiff with a suit against a major corporation.

From the get-go, Judge Parkin not only proceeded to belittle the litigant when he attempted to argue sound legal issues before the Judge in open court - but stridently engaged in combative quips intended to not only provoke the individual - but insult simply because he was not represented by legal counsel.

Obviously, Judge Parkin obtained a law degree from the "Rinky-Dink" school of law. After all, had he attended a reputable Institution, it may have been otherwise apparent to him that a litigant has a constitutional right to access to the courts in spite of the fact he or she may not be able to afford legal representation.

However, in this instant case, the litigant was a sly devil.

He remained calm and composed in spite of Parkin's insults and demeaning efforts to deter him from presenting his arguments in open court for the record.

In fact, the valiant IN PRO PER litigant struggled through the hearings "inspired" by the inner knowledge that the proceedings were not only being recorded but documenting the misconduct and grievous legal errors committed by Parkin which - ultimately - would end up on review in the Appellate Court.

And, that is exactly what transpired.

Of course, the litigant was not surprised when Judge Parkin denied all his "motions", and summarily dismissed the case. After all, the litigant was not as stupid as Judge Parkin. Indeed, he saw that end scenario coming and prepared for it!

Needless to say, it came as quite a slap in the face to Judge Parkin when the "opinion" of the higher court (2nd Appellate Court) was returned to Parkin's clerk.

Yup, the intelligent IN PRO PER litigant saw that ruling coming, too. A reversal!

Then, something curious happened.

Whenever a party sought to secure a copy of the case file for review, the court clerks were unable to deliver it up from the Superior Court records, for some inexplicable reason.

In one computer database, Parkin alleged the file was in one location.

But, when the party queried the custodian in charge of the other database records, a second notation by Parkin asserted the case file was "elsewhere".

In fact, the file was not in either location as falsely alleged by Judge Parkin.

In retrospect, it is evident that Judge Parkin was so angered by the fact that his ruling was reversed by virtue of a legal argument presented in the Appellate Court by an IN PRO PER litigant (without a law degree mind you) that he chose to abscond with the documents to prevent them from ever seeing the light of day again.

In the final analysis, it was a deceitful and dishonest attempt to conceal his shocking reprehensible conduct in the lower court, and cover-up open discrimination he levelled at an IN PRO PER litigant whose rights he continually trampled on and violated.

Yeah, Parkin's a piece of work, alright.

Until he's removed from the bench - kicking and screaming (or in handcuffs) - the Los Angeles Superior Court will not only continue to be a corrupt legal entity - but likewise - shall remain a National joke and a disgrace to the Judiciary.


  

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6. "RE: no worries... keep researching.. I'll point out"
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ok, but i guess it's the legalese that thwarts my focus, like trying to read the bible, that shit makes me sleepy. it would be lovely to see analogues for this unholy trinity, eg., law, finance, mari-time. for instance, what is the wind to a sale in the analog to the wind to a sail? is it interest?


Find your center, and fill yourself with light and heat (c)Morihei Ueshiba

  

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8. "*checks my watch (what watch)* looks like its just about that time"
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________
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Gig-A-Year
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"Don't bring Bush Shit to Africa!"

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"Religion is the gateway drug to politics."

Tegrity

  

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10. "hahaha... yesssuh."
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also..
keep in mind what I said about courts...
being used to creat debt....

or banks doing so with the debit/debt card....

right?

also...

'interest' rates... who's interest?
or shall I say who's special interest...

and in terms of hiphop and money ...

we can discuss the origins of 'gangster' hiphop...
it's referencing to hustling...
the cirlce it created...
the windfall of it...
how that translate (the precursor) to money..
as you see.. now most cats don't talk about the specifics of huslting...
just the overview and after effects... "money"

let us visit jayz's 'money aint a thing'
big's 'get money'

or the new spiritual churches on money...
again.. I'm throwing out 'thinking' flags...

let's visit the idea of a poor righteous teacher's doctrines..
and a church that teaches how to 'get money'...

  

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11. "Knights of Templar - Bar Association"
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The American BAR Association (and its State alter-egos) has, for all intents and purposes, taken over our entire federal, state, and local governments. The legislative branch follows the advice of their BAR member advisors in the constructing of statutes. The executive branch does the same in the enforcement of those statutes. The judicial branch is literally a closed union shop in that regard. You can’t be a judge unless you are BAR member and you can’t practice in their courts unless you are a BAR member.

The term “BAR” is an acronym for British Accredited Registry . These snakes are in fact working for the Crown of England. And that is why the gold fringed flags are in the courtrooms. It signifies admiralty jurisdiction* , which is another way of saying British jurisdiction . When you cross the bar in a courtroom, you are entering a British colonial forum.

There are over 30 grievances listed against the King of England in the Declaration of Independence (1776). Nearly all of them are applicable today against the Crown of England via the BAR Association. If you don’t have a copy, get one and read it. Each grievance therein begins with “He” (in reference to the King). As you read through the grievances, mentally supplant “He” with “BAR Association, on behalf of the Crown of England” and you’ll see exactly what I mean.

The root for the term “attorney” originates in Sanskrit (the oldest known language) and its original meaning was “to turn or to twist”. That meaning carried forward largely unaltered into the English language. The letter “a”, when used as a word, is defined as “an indefinite article” and when used as a prefix it equates with the word “one” (indefinite article) which modifies the base word (torn) accordingly—as does the suffix “ey”.

The extra “t” is added to separate the two vowels for proper pronunciation in accordance with the rules of English grammar. Thus, “a-(t)torn-ey” quite literally means “one who turns” (something).

This takes on added meaning when you understand that the legal profession in England has a number of titles (job descriptions), such as Esquire, Barrister, Solicitor, Counselor, Attorney, etc. And each one has a very specific function within that monarchial system. An English attorney’s function is to see that all titles and estates properly turn over to the legitimate heirs. The closest equivalent to that function in this country would be an attorney who specializes in probate law.

It is no accident that the generic term used to describe a practitioner of law in this country is “attorney”. As agents for the Crown of England, their function is to turn the sovereignty and wealth of this country back over to the Crown of England. And they have just about succeeded.

WEBMASTER’S COMMENTS:

The American Bar Association (ABA) was first organized in 1878. Its purposes were "to promote the administration of justice, to advance jurisprudence, to uphold professional honor, and to encourage social intercourse among lawyers." Jerold S. Auerbach, Unequal Justice: Lawyers and Social Change in Modern America (1976). The "Federal Bar Association" was officially incorporated by Congress in 1954, Public Law 662, Chapter 911.

I have not found any evidence that BAR is indeed an acronym for British Accredited Registry. According to Augustus Blackstone, the tie-in to the American Bar Association is the “Inns of Court”. "The Revolution swept away a `bar' in the English sense of an upper branch of the profession, possessing certain special privileges by virtue of its connection with the Inns of Court." However, the British Inns of Court eventually planted its roots on American soil. The following quote was taken from the American Inns of Court web site: “…the American Inns of Court adopted the traditional English model of legal apprenticeship and modified it to fit the particular needs of the American legal system.”

So just what is the “English model” today? Here is how Black’s Law Dictionary (6th ed.) defines “Inns of Court”. “These are certain private unincorporated associations, in the nature of collegiate houses, located in London, and invested with the exclusive privilege of calling people to the bar, that is, conferring the rank or degree of a barrister. They were founded probably about the beginning of the fourteenth century. The principal inns of court are the Inner Temple, Middle Temple, Lincoln’s Inn, and Gray’s Inn. The two former originally belonged to the Knights Templar.”

The key question that Mr. Blackstone asks regarding the Inns of Court is: Whose court is it? The answer he gives is, of course, the Crown of England.

Even today in England admission to an Inn is required before registration on the Bar Vocational Course. The Knights Templar is a secret society; they were the first international bankers. Today the Knights Templar is also part of another secret society, Freemasonry. Notice the use of the word “degree” in the Inns of Court definition above. The word “degree” is a secret society term which refers to the level to which the initiate has risen.

The initiate must take “blood oaths” in order to progress to higher levels of initiation. A friend of mine who was a 32 degree “Shriner” Freemason left the secret society because the blood oaths became unconscionable and repulsive to him. The blood oaths themselves imply or state that the initiate will suffer a most horrible death if he reveals the secrets of the lodge. Some men have reported being required to drink blood from a skull as part of a Masonic initiation. Many judges and lawyers are Freemasons. In fact, a very large number of civil servants, from judges to presidents, are members of secret societies such as Skull & Bones, Knights of Malta and Freemasonry.

Can we trust judges and lawyers who are Freemasons? According to the HANDBOOK OF MASONRY by Ronanyne, page 183: “You must conceal all the crimes of your brother Mason….and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him. It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you’re keeping your obligations.”

The following is the blood oath that Freemasonic “Shriners” take: “In willful violation whereof may I incur the fearful penalty of having my eyeballs pierced to thru center with a three edged blade, my feet flayed and forced to walk the hot sands upon the sterile shores of the red sea until the flaming Sun shall strike with a livid plague, and my Allah the god of Arab, Moslem and Mohammedan, the god of our fathers, support me to the entire fulfillment of the same.”

Augustus Blackstone suggests that the sovereignty and wealth of America is being turned back to the Crown of England through Admiralty Jurisdiction. This may very well be the case. In the early 50s Norman Dodd was the Director of Research for a Congressional investigation into the tax-exempt Rockefeller, Ford and Carnegie foundations. What he discovered was that these foundations were working together to control the educational system of America so that Americans would be indoctrinated into the principles of collectivism as opposed to the principles in the original united States’ Constitution and Declaration of Independence.

Furthermore, here is what Mr. Dodd stated about Mr. Carnegie: “His publicly declared and steadfast interest was to counteract the departure of the colonies from Great Britain. He was devoted just to putting the pieces back together again.” Mr. Dodd indicated that it was the bankers and lawyers who were making this possible.

Today the courts in America do in fact display a gold-fringed Admiralty flag. However, the judges and prosecutors of the Bar Association always refuse to reveal the jurisdiction when asked. The jurisdiction is a secret that they do not want people to know about. This means that the Bar Association is, in fact, a secret society.

On a few occasions judges have lied about their secret jurisdiction by stating that the court was under "statutory" jurisdiction. The imposition of Admiralty jurisdiction on land was one of the primary grievances that the colonists had against King George. The first paragraph of the DECLARATION AND RESOLVES OF THE FIRST CONTINENTAL CONGRESS OF OCTOBER 14, 1774 sums it up:

"Whereas, since the close of the last war, the British parliament, claiming a power, of right, to bind the people of America by statutes in all cases whatsoever, hath, in some acts, expressly imposed taxes on them, and in others, under various pretences, but in fact for the purpose of raising a revenue, hath imposed rates and duties payable in these colonies, established a board of commissioners, with unconstitutional powers, and extended the jurisdiction of courts of admiralty, not only for collecting the said duties, but for the trial of causes merely arising within the body of a county."

FOLLOW THE MONEY: The Rothschilds and the Bank of England along with the London Banking houses ultimately control the Federal Reserve Banks in America through their stockholdings of bank stock and their subsidiary firms in New York. As Alan Greenspan stated in London on September 25, 2002: "The tie between the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve was cemented during the 1920s." Actually, that "tie" was formed even before the Federal Reserve Act was fraudulently passed in 1913.

It is also interesting to note that former President George Bush (Sr) was knighted by the Queen of England. The founding fathers prohibited such “titles of nobility”. The question remains: Who was George Bush actually serving when he was President—We the People or the British Empire? According to the prestigious "Burke's Peerage", a guide to English aristocracy, George Bush and John Kerry are both descendants of Queen Elizabeth II as well as other British royalty. About two-thirds of the US presidents are cousins with ties to British royalty. Al Gore is also one of the elite. He is a cousin to the Bush family as well as Richard Nixon.

It was George Bush (Sr) who first publicly coined the expression “New World ORDER”. Both George Bush, Jr. and George Bush, Sr. are members of the infamous “Skull & bones” secret society, aka the ORDER of Death or simply "The ORDER", which originally came from Germany. Adolph Hitler wrote "My New ORDER" after writing "Mein Kampf". George Bush's father, Prescott Bush, was also a Skull & Bones member along with Percy Rockefeller and Bush family business partners, the Harrimans. Their symbol is, in fact, a skull and crossbones—the symbol for drugs, poison, piracy, death and the Nazi's "Death's Head" battalion.

According to Dr. Leonard Horowitz, Prescott Bush joined John D. Rockefeller and the British Royal Family in sponsoring the eugenics initiatives that gave rise to Hitler’s racial hygiene programs. Prescott Bush was found guilty of trading with the enemy (the Nazis) during WWII. According to court records, the Rockefeller family and their Standard Oil Company supported Hitler more than they did the allies during WWII. In fact, one judge declared Mr. Rockefeller guilty of treason. Dr. Gary Glum has also documented the insidious eugenics programs to create a "superior race", which were initially sponsored not by Adolph Hitler, but by the American elite (e.g., the Rockefeller, Carnegie, Harriman, Morgan, DuPont, Kellogg and Bush families).

The Rockefeller family, along with their lawyer friends John and Allen Dulles, created the United Nations for the purpose of establishing a world government. Allen Dulles became head of the CIA as did George Bush, both members of secret societies. George Bush (Sr) is an active participant in the CIA's MKUltra mind control programs.

On February 1, 1992 George Bush (Sr) addressed the General Assembly of the United Nations and stated: “It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegiance.” Patriotic Americans often view George Bush's statement as treasonous. George Bush also stood before the United States Congress and stated that the “New World Order” is the “rule of law”. Perhaps what he meant to say was “rule of lawyers” because it is the lawyers and judges in America who are in fact implementing the "New World Order" through fraud. However, not all lawyers are aware of the ultimate plan of the global elite and many lawyers are helping to restore our natural rights and freedoms.



  

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12. "The Law or Legal defintion of the word Human Being..."
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answer?
Monster.

Definition of prior (noun)
form plural: priors
officer of a monastery; high-ranking member of a religious order

  

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15. "Ballentine's Law Dictionary; person vs natural person"
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>answer?
>Monster.

human being See MONSTER.
—Ballentine's Law Dictionary (1930)

monster A human being by birth, but in some part resembling a lower animal. A monster hath no inheritable blood, and cannot be heir to any land.
—Ballentine's Law Dictionary (1930)




person vs natural person

from Law.com Dictionary

person
n. 1) a human being. 2) a corporation treated as having the rights and obligations of a person. Counties and cities can be treated as a person in the same manner as a corporation. However, corporations, counties and cities cannot have the emotions of humans such as malice, and therefore are not liable for punitive damages unless there is a statute authorizing the award of punitive damages.
http://dictionary.law.com/default2.asp?selected=1516&bold=human%20being||||

natural person
n. a real human being, as distinguished from a corporation, which is often treated at law as a fictitious person.
http://dictionary.law.com/default2.asp?selected=1308&bold=human%20being||||

so what's the difference between a human being and a "real human being?"

  

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16. "good to know some lawyers are fighting it"
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>What he discovered was that these foundations were working together to >control the educational system of America so that Americans would be >indoctrinated into the principles of collectivism as opposed to the >principles in the original united States’ Constitution and Declaration >of Independence.

we know this is true.

good read. thanks.

  

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27. "debt is worship"
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you said courts/banks create debt
debt is "to keep something away from"
we "the people" become indebited
believers in God are indebited to him
slaves are indebited to their masters

interest is from the Anglo-French interesse which means "what one has a legal concern in"

worship = reverence paid
our leaders want to be worshiped

worship is to create worth or make worthy

so our leaders create debt for us with their interest rates/fees which they use to receive honor for themselves so that they may be our God.

we our handing over our worth to them. debt keeps our worth out of our hands and in theirs. we become their slaves and we therefore worship them. actually our worth is more than that, but I don't want to go into that yet but I think I see clearer to that effeft.


  

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28. "precisely.. Debit Cards/VISA"
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Debt to Satanism.
Funding the Royal Crown.

Man's ultimate ideology is to be God hence the Royal Crown.
Ever wonder why it rains in London all the time.. sidebar rant from Aqua.

Interestingly enough...
what gets me is the lack of insight.
For example. Mau777 posted the relatively simple story about a man and his dog and heaven versus hell.
Even with that, most people will not understand that Vatican City drips in Gold. Sigh.
Fair enough.
Remember the Satanist mark the 666

VISA
VI - 6
S - 6
A - 6

remember that?

Ironically, I was in the Bank of America today...
in Baltimore..
and the first thing you see when you walk in the bank...
a seal on the floor...
of a huge merchant boat.

Merritime.
Mercantile.
Merril Lynch.
I mean.
wow.

and yes Mau..
I know Merritime isn't a word and Mer isn't a prefix.
Pay attention.
Peace.

  

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76. "speaking of Merrill, you know he did the poetry in WTC 7?"
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the new one? it says Jenny Holzer, but I was listening to an interview with Jacob Eckstein on Vyzygoth's Beyond the Grassy Knoll in an interview about the illuminist symbology found at ground zero and Eckstein brought this up. He said Holzer collected it but James Ingram Merrill was the author.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Merrill

Wikipedia says he's got a book that is an epic narrative of occult communication with spirits and angels, titled The Changing Light at Sandover. nice lol. but he's also the one to inherit the Merrill Lynch legacy. and the original WTC 7 and the new one had Merrill Lynch as a major investor

"Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co. and Merrill Lynch & Co. were both headquartered in lower Manhattan at the time of the attack. Morgan Stanley occupied 22 floors of the North Tower and Merrill Lynch had headquarters near the Twin Towers. Morgan Stanley, which saw an average of 27 put options on its stock bought per day before September 6, saw 2,157 put options bought in the three trading days before the attack. Merrill Lynch, which saw an average of 252 put options on its stock bought per day before September 5, saw 12,215 put options bought in the four trading days before the attack. Morgan Stanley's stock dropped 13% and Merrill Lynch's stock dropped 11.5% when the market reopened." 11 (Black Tuesday ..., 9/19/01)

here's the 2 hr discussion. Eckstein is down with having people email him questions if they're interested

Jacob Eckstein on Illuminist symbology at Ground Zero
jacobeckstein@hotmail.com
http://beyondthegrassyknoll.com/audio/eckstein1.mp3

  

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77. "Jacob Eckstein filmed the inside of the new WTC7 *link*"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfOmNSHRE6k

  

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78. "yeup. I knew about that."
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there is more to it too.
alot more.
it was a world sacrifice as well.
we shall build on the timing.

  

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79. "and the twin pillars are becoming one freedom tower"
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just like the marriage unity candle ritual

i know 911 was a MASSive satanic MASSacre to serve as incense for their God's nostrils

but i don't know too many other symbolic references other than the numerology w/ 911.

  

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80. "RE: and the twin pillars are becoming one freedom tower"
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sure you do...
8
4points.
follow that path.
Don't want to give up too much here yaknow.

Hence...8 8 8
Presidential election 88
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81. "ah ok...8-8-8 is thought to represent Jesus in Greek per the bible"
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like 666, there's 888
Jesus is said to be Zeus

8-8-08 is when the Olympics started
Olympic means "of a great god of ancient Greece"
the world is uniting to "square off" or compete which is "to come together, agree, to be qualified" by the great God of Greece

also the Phoenix nest: the phoenix is associated with Apollo (God of the Sun) and Europa (the symbol of the EU and inspiration behind the name of Europe). The phoenix abducted Europa, who was the object of Zeus' affections. The phoenix is also one of China's four sacred creatures. It has a dual nature: male (solar), female (lunar). But when paired with the dragon. And it also represents ressurrection.

8-8-8 also signifies the war between Russia and Georgia
"Red Square" Russia is attacking Georgia. Russia was founded by Swedish merchant/warriors.

India is scared of 8-8-2008 since they are ruled by the planet Saturn which symbolizes destruction/earth quakes and also possible terrorist attacks.

  

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82. "may this thread never end"
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83. "Pricesly... now..."
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the mastermason was elected in 88...

the father to the sun...
the phoenix...

now..
the points of a square is... four
two squares ... eight
twin towers..

keep going...

and Kevan..
excellent insight...
this is what i'm talking about....
pay the naysayers no mind...
they are still concerned with CNN documenting their struggles...
or... who really walked with King.. or....
will jesus carry them in the and... lol.
well done.
peace.

  

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86. "888 through the years"
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in 3888 BC Seth son of Eve (from the Tanakh/Bible) was said to have been born

the Institute for Biblical & Scientific Studies says this was the year the world was created


in 2888 BC the Second Pharaonic Dynasty ended in Egypt.


In 888 AD Kanakpal became the de-facto ruler of Garhwal in India


in 1888 Wilhelm II is crowned Emperor of the German Empire.

HP Blavatsky created the Esoteric Section for the Theosophical Society to strengthen its inner core

Jack the Ripper was on a killing spree aka Masonic Ritual Murders

  

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87. "exactly..."
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now knowing the power of the number 8
especially in sucession...
review items in this light and they will make more sense....

the mastering of one's higher self
over one's lower self
to bring forth equality to self

  

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88. "ok i wondered why with the 666, 777, 888"
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people used to say if 666 is the antichrist
why isn't god or the christ 777, but its 888
i saw the other day when looking this up that the cross is considered 777

which the christians consider the point of dying to themselves

so are you saying that when 888 is happening in the year, like the olympics they are mastering their higher selves?

  

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89. "that's the intent"
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but at 33 and third degrees..
they are just thawing out...
like the gaint thermometers they have everywhere Obleisk (lol.. jk)
777 is god..
but it's confrontation...
it is the gateway too...
that's why 999 is infinity....
once the higher self is mastered...

  

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90. "ok so if 777 is god, and 999 is infinity than 888 must be chaos"
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because once one masters himself (what is inside him) he must master what is outside of him and when he does that he is infinite, correct?

  

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91. "9 to the 9th power of 9"
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also keep in mind...
just sidebar
the father and son were there at the olympics to watch
the lucierian ceremony of lightbearer
bringing light to the earth...

  

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92. "Aha! everytime we have an olympics, we vote on presidents"
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man i just realized that. thus an additional importance of the luciferian ritual

  

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94. "Bingo... and don't think for one minute the speech in Berlin"
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in front of the classic masonic symbols wasn't to safeguard
...
haha..
well done.

  

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130. "i didn't see that speech"
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what symbols were displayed?

  

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84. "oh and it does ..."
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yes...
same ideology...

new testament written in Greek...
Zeus..
yes.

  

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85. "i'm a little curious about the fallen arches..."
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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/08/080811-arch-photo.html

before
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/08/images/080811-arch-photo_big.jpg
after
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/08/images/080811-arch-photo_big.jpg

The Masonic Royal Arch
The St. Louis Arch, Missouri is the Royal Arch state
http://www.whale.to/b/images/arch.jpg
Washington "Square" Arch
http://untitledname.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/washington-square-arch.jpg
The French Arc de Triumph
http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/1301912.jpg
Soldiers' and Sailors' Memorial Arch in Brooklyn/Grand Army Plaza
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/The_Soldiers_and_Sailors_Memorial_Arch_at_Grand_Army_Plaza.jpg/508px-The_Soldiers_and_Sailors_Memorial_Arch_at_Grand_Army_Plaza.jpg
The golden arches of McDonalds
http://prvitamins.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/mcdonalds.jpg


Then we have the fallen arch-angels
The fallen arch-bishops with the Catholic scandal
fallen arches: the technical name for flat-feet

we've got this obscure referenced American Idol article from the NYpost
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05222008/news/nationalnews/cook_tops_fallen_arch_for_idol_crown_111986.htm
it says King David (who Jesus is said to relate by blood and draws his kingdom from) beat early favorite David Archuleta from where, but UTAH! the title of the article is "COOK TOPS FALLEN ARCH FOR 'IDOL' CROWN" If that's not the most Illuminist title i've ever heard.

and now we have this fallen natural wonder that in ARCHES NATIONAL PARK, Utah that no one saw fall.

additionally I thought Arch was symbolic for vagina or womb. there is a condition called falling of the womb which is usually caused by injuries of childbirth

so what has/is being birthed right now?

  

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93. "Aha... excellent. And those Arches fell.. exactly... when?"
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hmmm.. smile.
see where I'm going?


clue..
prophecy of the white buffalo

and
the white wolf

  

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95. "aw man don't tell me it's when McCain was there w/ his wife"
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and that's why he wants her to a "buffalo chip girl"

"The woman placed a dry buffalo chip on the fire and lit the pipe with it. This was peta­owihankeshini , the fire without end, the flame to be passed on from generation to generation. She told them that the smoke rising from the bowl was Tunkashila's breath, the living breath of the great Grandfather Mystery."

"The White Buffalo Woman showed the people the right way to pray, the right words and the right gestures. She taught them how to sing the pipe­filling song and how to lift the pipe up to the sky, toward Grandfather, and down toward Grandmother Earth, to Unci, and then to the four directions of the universe."

and then we also have Romney who loves something very much in Utah

  

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98. "Exactly. The White Buffalo. Now the White Wolf."
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yeup.

  

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102. "Frank Wolf as McCain's VP"
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Congressional representative Frank Wolf (R), the longest serving member of the Virginia delegation and a moderate with strong views on foreign policy. Wolf’s work in shepherding the SAFE (Securing America’s Future Economy) Commission has secured his position as a “deficit hawk” and economic conservative. McCain has admitted that economic issues are not his personal strong point.

  

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103. "haha... well done again..."
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and this presidential term is up in four years...
right?
leading directly into what...?
anyone... beuller..?

  

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107. "2012"
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so then you think McCain's got it over Obama? I'd have thought Obama would take it but maybe I'm underestimating white guilt and inferiority complexes

  

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108. "precisely... Obama has got it..."
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but it's on his watch also.
What will unfold has been put in place already.

  

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111. "how would you assess that w/ the mayan prophecies?"
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and who do you think the Pahana represents?

  

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112. "Hunab Ku..."
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tidalwave.
for me.
washing away everything above ground...
rising what's below ground to the surface once again.


however... literally?
Would have to be a member of the G8...
I thought it was Bush...
then I realized that he was apart of it... but won't be the name...
then I thought Putin noting how even tho' he has a successor..
they are all under his umbrella...

I'm not sure as of yet..
but he will be g8.

  

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113. "but isn't the Pahana supposed to be someone to help?"
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what you've described sounds more like what some would term the Anti-Christ/Anti-Krishna

  

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63. "RE: debt is worship"
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now this shit getting good, slow going though with the rereads and point of departures, but a fun doodle worthy of the "da'at".


Find your center, and fill yourself with light and heat (c)Morihei Ueshiba

  

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30. "giving away power to the false gods instead of being god"
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>let's visit the idea of a poor righteous teacher's doctrines..
>
>and a church that teaches how to 'get money'...

PRT teach that the Black Man is God. God is self-sufficient. The bloodsuckers of the poor are holding back knowledge so the Black Man won't have knowledge of self. That is hurting the children who must be also nurtured, respected, loved and protected. So this is tampering with the future since the unified Black family is essential for the nation's growth.

The churches teach that you must give to God to get money. They teach there is a required 10% of your income to give but the main focus is on offerings which are additional gifts of money. They even have different funds which request donation for things such as building upkeep/construction and evangelistic trips. Additionally churches many times become 501(c)3 non-profit groups so that they don't have to pay taxes on this money and so that you can claim the donations on your taxes which generates a refund. In turn, the IRS has free access to their members accounts and can even take action if the church staff speaks against politics, pornography and other government issues.

The difference the church is assuming the authority of God and asking the people to seek God for money while they convince those same people to give abundantly per their doctrines. If God is truly man and not a spiritual entity, they are hoodwinking the people to hand over their money as they are foolish enough to believe in a falsehood. They in turn are receiving worship as God while keeping the people ignorant and poor which thereby stifles the growth and progress of the Black family and nation. Since God is the master, they are usurping the throne of master by using deception which is not a tool of God but of the devil. Therefore is causing the people to worship him by getting his money.

and I guess to bring hiphop into it. Jay-Z Biggie and all the other negative rappers are thus teaching the Black Man to be the devil/bloodsucker of the poor. God's nation would not hurt others in order to do well since the original civilizations did not do this. What we are seeing now in this system is a product of the devil and Satanists (false Gods).



  

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33. "precisely..it's the counter doctrine..."
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self sufficient
unity
respect of time/ elderly

"30 is the new 20"

all are counter doctrines of the natural orders of life..

respecing death as oppossed to life...

the question then becomes
did freeway rick know eazy?
hmm.

think... for every buddha...
there is a jigga...

think... they exist on the same planet... at the same time...
right?
so the work of the buddha is completely being countered by the work of a jigga...

for every life saved by the Buddha..
there is alife being lost by the Jigga...
cause people are impressionable...
and if cats think they are going to own a basketball team by hustling or rapping..
their nuts.

haha.

they asked Obama who he listened to.
He said JayZ.
Jayz. Really. A thinking man. A lawyer. Likes listening to a Jayz. How terribly interesting.
Jigga has been a Mason for some time and many believed
that Big was too.

let me go a littel further here...
as I don't want to go off the topic of money but I promise there is a point and a 'tie/noose' in.
Hmm.
Who remembers the cover of Complex with Little Kim wearing a Muslim woman's veil while being naked?

The Wendy Williams Experience
"Yesterday some fans of female Shock Jock Wendy Wiliams were shocked and insulted when the host brought on the ex boyfriend and former lover of Lil Kim. A muslim rapper known as World Wise has recently been linked to the gunfire exchange w/ 50 Cent entourage outside of a N.J. hotel because 50 continued to disrespect Lil Kim. World used the show to out gay rappers and issued the name of LL Cool J, P- Diddy, Jay Z , Russel Simmons,Jarule and 50 Cent as closeted homosexuals. He claimed that Lil Kim was a Eastern Star and was heavily aligned with the Mason brotherhood which he claimed was against Islam.He also said that homosexuality was basically a initiation rite of the Masons. World claimed that many rappers were Mason’s and that they planned to destroy Islam through rap music and entertainment. World also took shots at the Nation of Islam as "phony Islam". The majority of her callers were upset that such a relatively unknown rapper received 2 hours to say whatever he wanted even though it was basically his opinion, Wendy was ousted from NYC radio years ago for her attempts at outing celebrities. She said his comments are his own and she will continue to play his music on her show."

Who remembers Aqua's post on 'Squares'

phrases and locations
"Square Business"
"Squared away"
"Square off"
"Fair and Square"
Town Squares
City Squares
State Squares

who remembers FAde to Black...
"you didn't want to not be there the night JayZ took over the Square"
Madison Square

  

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48. "i remember reading about the Wendy Williams interview"
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and how we never really know who the gay rapper is yet countless leaks drip out on who they are, like in the SuperHead book. and they typically mention the same people.
>
>Who remembers Aqua's post on 'Squares'
>
>phrases and locations
>"Square Business"
>"Squared away"
>"Square off"
>"Fair and Square"
>Town Squares
>City Squares
>State Squares

i remember that.
>
>who remembers FAde to Black...
>"you didn't want to not be there the night JayZ took over the
>Square"
>Madison Square
>

yeah i remember that too. it's funny how they deny the membership their celebrity brothers like him, Obama, the Pope.

good stuff.

  

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49. "Do you remember recently the pope giving the horns to a crowd"
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of followers...

how ill is it.. .
that he is a man of peace with foul rheteric or

that the olympics started on

8 8 8

?

and in 'red' china.
and in the bird's nest.
(falcon/eagle)


why aren't ppl seeing this... hmm.

  

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55. "the bird's nest symbolizes birth of the phoenix correct?"
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I know Hillary wears the Phoenix pin all the time.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/Phoenix_Hillary_Pearl_Broach.jpg
http://www.cuttingedge.org/Phoeinx_Regular.JPG
http://www.cuttingedge.org/Phoenix_Pin_Closeup.JPG
http://www.cuttingedge.org/Phoenix_Bird_look.JPG

Do you think this Democratic Convention honoring her is going to be her getting the VP nomination?

Or do you think the bird's nest symbolizes the military rise of China?

I didn't see the Pope do that recently but I think I saw a photo of him doing it before. I'm not sure of the symbolism behind 888. it all adds up to 8 though.

  

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31. "no more beating around the bush n/m"
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Mau777
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13. "Hmm..."
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>I'll start slow...
>let others weigh in...
>and boom.
>
>money is governed by the law of the sea.

I'm open. Break it down.

>banks and courtrooms are one in the same.

I'm sure i can link 'em on the poetical metaphorical tip, but you got link it up for me....whatcha got?
>
>Man is ruled by the law of the Land.
>Words. The whisperer. Shaytaan. Ibliss.

For clarification, are you saying words are the "law of the land"?

>
>Money is ruled by the Law of the Sea.

OK....lets see.

>Mertime Law.

You mean MARItime Law.

mar·i·time Spelled Pronunciation
–adjective
1. connected with the sea in relation to navigation, shipping,etc.
2. of or pertaining to the sea: maritime resources.
3. bordering on the sea: maritime provinces.
4. living near or in the sea: maritime plants.
5. characteristic of a sailor; nautical: maritime clothing.


>Mer.

That is not a suffix, nor a word.


>Merchant

mer·chant Spelled Pronunciation
–noun
1. a person who buys and sells commodities for profit; dealer; trader.
2. a storekeeper; retailer: a local merchant who owns a store on Main Street.
3. Chiefly British. a wholesaler.
–adjective
4. pertaining to or used for trade or commerce: a merchant ship.
5. pertaining to the merchant marine.
6. Steelmaking. (of bars and ingots) of standard shape or size.

>Mercantile

mer·can·tile
Pronunciation
–adjective
1. of or pertaining to merchants or trade; commercial.
2. engaged in trade or commerce: a mercantile nation.
3. Economics. of or pertaining to the mercantile system.


>Merrtime.

This word doesn't exist.

Merchant and Mercantile are obviously connected and in todays times mostly deal with money, though in centuries past, it was more of a trade thing going on, since there was no global currency system in effect. But these words have no direct connection to Maritime.

>
>Currency.
>Current- Sea.

Ok. I see the connection.

>
>Banks. Control the flow of the Current.

A new contestant for "Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader?"! j/
The wind controls that homie.

>Banks. Control the flow of currency.

OK.

>
>A judge.
>a credit move on your money is a Judgement.

An eviction notice after being a day late is a judgement as well. So is punchin someone in the face for steppin' on some fresh white Air Force 1's.

>
>Paying Bail.
>or Ba'al.

Your mos def reaching for this one. Which Ba'al are you talking about? as defined by who? what time period?

>
>A judge rules from a Bench.
>Bench in most languages means "Bank"

"MOST languages"? You sure? I found only one old language.

>"Pay your debt to society"

>
>Offshore accounts.
>
>law strikes can be one, two, three counts against you.

So can a swing and a miss.

>or Accounts.
>Bank accounts.

To say "You have some accounts against you" would be horrible english.

>
>However, not to loose course...

No, not that...

>
>courtooms and banks are synonymous.
>In court...
>you share your words to testify.
>Testify comes from the african terms of judgement using one's
>testicles.
>hence the phrase "all I have are my words and my balls".

Ha! Consider the course lost.
>
>When you go to a bank you must see the "Teller".
>
>Again, I'll start off... slow.
>and let others investigate (please do)
>and weigh in.
>
>All money is governed by the laws of the Sea.
>peace.

Um....Naaaahh. This doesn't add up in the least bit.


"Basically, I’m going to take what you did, the bare-bones structure of what you were trying to do, how you were attacking the song, and attack it in pretty much the same way, just with more intensity to show you that you could’ve come harder" - Bun B

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22. "Yawn."
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Yawn.

  

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44. "Exactly!"
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There are important connections that need to be made and deserve in-depth focus(sometimes u post about them)......and then there are distractions(these are one of those).

Peace(fa real)

"Basically, I’m going to take what you did, the bare-bones structure of what you were trying to do, how you were attacking the song, and attack it in pretty much the same way, just with more intensity to show you that you could’ve come harder" - Bun B

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47. "Nah not really. You see..."
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after everything I have posted...
you'd have to be an idiot to make the comments you did.
Seriously and with all due respect.
Again.
Enjoy.
Oh and just keep up with the jesus carrying you in the sands post.

Now the spirit of Ra post... that was dope. More like that..
and perhaps some fluid assesments besides just a link written by someone else... and maybe... maybe you'll be where I was in 95.
I mean 92. Thanks.
Thanks.

  

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64. "you catchin' feelin's"
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I'm not talking about all you have posted, i'm talking about this post. I went thru point by point. Your whole post fell apart at "Merrtime", giving what you were trying to connect. I was being somewhat snark, my fault for touching nerves, but i'm always open. Now you could've came back with more info, esp. since i did ask for more clarity on what you were trying to say, but you chose to catch feelings and....

>Oh and just keep up with the jesus carrying you in the sands
>post.

This might be funny if i even believed Jesus(as the world perceives him) existed, but i get it.
Your back must be fucked, walking around with a ceiling that low.

>Now the spirit of Ra post... that was dope. More like that..

Got that all day cuzzo.

>
>and perhaps some fluid assesments besides just a link written
>by someone else...

Okay. Are you implying you make "fluid assessments"? You can't even spell MARITIME! You said the sea currents were controlled by the banks! How did you come to that conclusion? Baal and Bail!?!? LTFOL!!! Yeah fluid assessments are definitely needed.

You see Aqua, at some point in your gaining and sharing of knowledge concerning the conspiracy being played out, wisdom is supposed to set in. You move from the minor who, what, where, when and how's, into the major who, what, where, when and how's which should bring you to the real why's. When that happens, you don't waste time posting bullshit about how money is connected with the sea and satan(?!?!?I mean really, u still believe in Satan!?!?).

What is the point? Even if you made the connect, what is the objective? Of what benefit to anyones daily life is that information? Are you even really attempting to assist folks in gaining new awareness or are you just jacking off, waiting for someone to take over for you? How can that info raise anyones awareness on any level relating to ones progress in self knowledge or at least self protection against falling into the traps of the conspiracy you claim to know so much about? It cannot, neither can any of the nuts and bolts you'll never be fully aware of. It only serves to distract and if you don't know what it distracts you from, then you still a newbie concerning this game. It's '08 and if you been spittin' that shit since 92, when i was a lil youngsta in the streets, i deeply pity you. You're worse off than if you had no knowledge at all. Not only do you hold yourself back, you suck others, who are looking to increase their awareness, into being caught in some shit in which they have NO POWER TO CHANGE OR EVEN PUT A DENT IN.
In '95 i was teenager giving' hood lectures on your low level shit. There's ALOT more out there than what Bill Cooper and Jim Marrs was spittin'. I done forgot more than you know.....on purpose.


and maybe... maybe you'll be where I was in
>95.
>I mean 92.

Yeah, i'll pray to Jesus and hope with all my heart i am where you were then.


Thanks.

You're welcome.


"Basically, I’m going to take what you did, the bare-bones structure of what you were trying to do, how you were attacking the song, and attack it in pretty much the same way, just with more intensity to show you that you could’ve come harder" - Bun B

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68. "yawn again."
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First if all you got out of this was a so called 'misspelling'... well that's on you.
Second, it wasn't a misspelling... again... for the record.. it was purposely spelled that way to show you the relationship between the word and
Mercantyle General PLC London/ Merrill Lynch/Mercenary/ Mercantyle Impex Ltd/ etc. to Maritime Trade Inc. etc .
it's a play on words.

Do the math. Keep building on heaven or whatever comic shit you are into.
peace.

  

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17. "RE: Law of the Land - Man/ Law of the Sea - Money : Satanism 101"
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in all seriousness, do you use drugs recreationaly?

  

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19. "you just love putting people in boxes don't you? nm"
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21. "In this lifetime he does... in his previous lifetime he sold slaves."
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yawn.
kevan, excellent responses as always man.
Peace.

  

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25. "RE: In this lifetime he does... in his previous lifetime he sold slaves."
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Commonwealth

For other uses, see Commonwealth (disambiguation).
The English noun commonwealth dates from the fifteenth century. The original phrase "common-wealth" or "the common weal" comes from the old meaning of "wealth," which is "well-being". The term literally meant "common well-being". Thus commonwealth originally meant a state or nation-state governed for the common good as opposed to an authoritarian state governed for the benefit of a given class of owners. The word was a calque on the Latin phrase res publica meaning "public affairs" or "the state", from which the English word republic arises.

Today the term is more general and means a political community.

The type of community indicated by the term commonwealth varies. For instance, in different contexts it might indicate:

a political unit founded in law by agreement of the people for the common good;
a federated union of constituent states;
a community of sovereign states;
a republic;
a democratic constitutional monarchy;
When capitalized, "Commonwealth" normally refers to the 53 member Commonwealth of Nations.



Commonwealth of Nations
The Commonwealth of Nations — formerly the "British Commonwealth" — is a loose confederation of nations which were formerly members of the British Empire (with one exception, Mozambique, which was a Portuguese possession). The Commonwealth's membership includes both republics and monarchies. The (appointed, not hereditary) head of the Commonwealth of Nations is Queen Elizabeth II. She also reigns as monarch directly in a number of states, known as Commonwealth Realms, notably the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Jamaica and New Zealand. The Commonwealth of Nations is sometimes referred to as the New Commonwealth in a British context.

Commonwealth of Independent States
The Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) is a loose alliance or confederation consisting of 11 of the 15 former Soviet Republics, the exceptions being Turkmenistan, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. Its creation signaled the dissolution of the Soviet Union, its purpose being to "allow a civilized divorce" between the Soviet Republics. The CIS has developed as a forum by which the member-states can co-operate in economics, defense and foreign policy.

National

Australia
The term also served when six Australian colonies federated to form the Commonwealth of Australia in 1901. The Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act created a federal system, in which power is divided between the federal, or national, government and the States — the evolved status of the colonies. The Constitution stipulated that Australia was a constitutional monarchy, where the Head of State is the British (or, since 1942, Australian) monarch, who is represented at the federal level by a Governor-General, and at the state level by six Governors, one for each state. The Parliament of Australia was derived from the British, Canadian and American systems to form a uniquely Australian system. It is largely based on the British Westminster System, adopting many of its practices and precedents, but with a similar structure — House of Representatives, and Senate — to the U.S. Congress. In an Australian context, the term "Commonwealth" (capitalised) thus refers to the federal government and "Commonwealth of Australia" is the official name of the country.


Dominica
The small Caribbean republic of Dominica has used the official style Commonwealth of Dominica since 1970.





Countries that formerly used the style Commonwealth

Great Britain
The Commonwealth of England was the official name of the political unit (de facto military rule in the name of parliamentary supremacy) that replaced the kingdoms of Scotland and England (after the English Civil War) under the rule of Oliver Cromwell and his son and successor Richard from 1649 to 1660. It formed the first republic in the English-speaking world, though this quickly evolved into a de facto monarchy. The Cromwellian Commonwealth is sometimes referred to as the Old Commonwealth in a British context.

Former Labour MP Tony Benn introduced a Commonwealth of Britain Bill several times, which would abolish the monarchy and establish a British republic. It has never reached a second reading.


Iceland
The Icelandic Commonwealth or the Icelandic Free State (Icelandic: Þjóðveldið) was the state existing in Iceland between the establishment of the Althing in 930 and the pledge of fealty to the Norwegian king in 1262. It was initially established by a public consisting largely of recent immigrants from Norway who had fled the unification of that country under King Harald Fairhair.


Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Commonwealth of Poland
Main article: Rzeczpospolita
Republic is still an alternative translation of the traditional name of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Wincenty Kadłubek (Vincent Kadlubo, 1160–1223) used for the first time the original Latin term res publica in the context of Poland in his "Chronicles of the Kings and Princes of Poland". The name was used officially for the confederal country formed by Poland and Lithuania 1569–1795.

It is also often referred as "Nobles' Commonwealth" (1505–1795, i.e. before the union). In contemporary political doctrine of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, "our state is a Republic (Commonwealth) under presidency of the King". The commonwealth introduced a doctrine of religious tolerance (see Warsaw Confederation), had its own parliament Sejm (although elections were restricted to the gentry or szlachta) and elected kings, who were bound to certain contracts Pacta conventa from the beginning of the reign. The foundation stones of the Commonwealth (also called the Golden Freedoms) used to be

free election of the king
Pacta conventa, a binding pledge agreed to by the King on his election
rokosz, the right of rebellion against kings who did not rule in accordance with their pledge
liberum veto (a later development), the right for a single representative to veto the entire proceedings of the Sejm
confœderatio (confederation), a military organisation of the citizens for the attainment of common political aims.
"A commonwealth of good counsaile" was the title of the 1607 English translation of the work of Wawrzyniec Grzymała Goślicki "De optimo senatore" that presented to English readers many of the ideas present in the political system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.



Main article: Commonwealth (United States)
Four states in the United States officially designate themselves "commonwealths":

Kentucky is designated a Commonwealth by the Kentucky Constitution and is known as the "Commonwealth of Kentucky".
Massachusetts is a Commonwealth, declaring itself as such in its constitution, which states that "The body politic is formed by a voluntary association of individuals: it is a social compact, by which the whole people covenants with each citizen, and each citizen with the whole people, that all shall be governed by certain laws for the common good."
Pennsylvania uses the term "Commonwealth" loosely. The "Commonwealth of Pennsylvania" is its official title.
Virginia has been known as the "Commonwealth of Virginia" since before joining the United States.

U.S. insular areas
Main article: Commonwealth (United States insular area)
"Commonwealth" is also used in the U.S. to describe the political relationship between the United States and the overseas unincorporated territories:

Commonwealth of the Philippines — formed in 1935, and became independent in 1946.
Puerto Rico — formed in 1952.
Northern Mariana Islands

  

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26. "yet common wealth is common poverty"
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at least its been changed to that

common from the Latin communis meaning "in common, public, general, shared by all or many,"

public meaning "of or pertaining to the people" as well as "open to all in the community" I'm not people or a person, I'm a MAN, at least I'd like to think so. However, none of my paperwork says I am. aha aha

public schools
public transportation
public relations (LOL at this one)
public enemy
publicans - tax man
publicity - "good vs bad publicity (condition of being public)
publication - the act of making PUBLICLY known

so America is the task force of the Commonwealth. We know most people out here aren't wealthy. Someone's getting it.

Serfs up dude!


  

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29. "right.. we can exploit them and govern them..."
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but they can't vote.

last of the slave islands.
Puerto Rico. Hooooo.
now...
apply what you know about the power or lackthere of of the commonwealth location..
and the idea of international money laundering..
and whala...
it all makes sense.

  

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32. "exactly...they're pirates of the carribbean"
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with their skull and bones flags and their horded booty

so is this whole god of the sea such as Dagon and Leviathan symbolic identities they've taken on/acted out to spook the people and monopolize the world?

  

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38. "Bingo."
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yeup.

  

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66. "RE: exactly...they're pirates of the carribbean"
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man, got damn, just yesterday as i looked over the beginning threads, i said, these mofos gone make a mofo have to resee the Pirates of the Caribbean, ha, ha, i like this., keep bringing it Kevan, i know i'm open to listen, and Aqua, let that shit out, stop teasing us, or clue that shit through a link/book....please.


Find your center, and fill yourself with light and heat (c)Morihei Ueshiba

  

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69. "no no.. .if I spoon feed then..."
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you'll eat and be fed..
or throw back up.

take your time.
small bites.
get that nutrition.

  

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70. "i'm not sure how to move past this subject or deeper therein"
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there's astrology, i'm reading that Ra Material now and one thing of interest is the 25,000 year cycle needed to progress for harvest. I would think this is the astrological procession of the equinoxes which is also 25,000 years. but astrology is condemned by the bible which is looking more and more like a system which teaches certain key spiritual principles while maintaining the hold of control by those in power over the followers of the relgion and also encouraging duality by playing the "role" of the positive side. but then we have the Luciferian money cult that is teaching a larger degree of these spiritual truths while
acting out the role of the negative side of the duality we all have been taught to see.

i have no clue what direction to go in now lol

  

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71. "Start with Capricorn... The Winter... Court Seals... Judgement"
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for astrology.. .

you hit the nail on the head with the Phoneix
Falcon (left shoulder)
Eagle (right shoulder)

  

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73. "ok so pluto has entered into capricorn this year = breaking down"
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of the old to make way for the new system. these guys see themselves as the emissaries of judgement who hold the keys (scales) to the kingdom and life and death. it seems like they're trying to get as much as they can now in the old system for now so when we switch over they'll be straight.

capricorn is the goat which has long been associated with Satan. and also the builder which I'm sure Mason's love. Capricorn is ruled by Saturn which is also interesting given the Saturn/Satyr/Saturnalia/Satyrday symbolism. Also what I read says Saturn requires that everything that is personal is sacrificed for the goal which lines up with Obama's NWO speech in Germany and the increasing moves against individualism. Pluto is associated with the Phoenix.

  

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34. "RE: In this lifetime he does... in his previous lifetime he sold slaves."
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i take that as a yes then.

  

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37. "good thing McCain doesn't stand for anything like that...."
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oops

http://www.236.com/images/photo2/3398/original/original.jpg

  

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40. "fox I'm not sure you understand..."
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we know your position and we really don't care homie.
so no worries.
back to the topic at hand.

  

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41. "Order of the Eastern Star"
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History of the Order

The history of the Order of the Eastern Star is divided into three Eras:

1. The First Era extended from 1850 to 1866, under the leadership of Dr. Rob Morris, Poet Laureate of Masonry.
2. The Second Era extended from 1866 to 1876, under the leadership of Robert Macoy of New York.
3. The Third Era extends from 1876, when the General Grand Chapter, Order of the Eastern Star, was established to the present time.

Of these eras, the first is perhaps the most important as it prepared the way for the other two.

The real origin of the Order of the Eastern Star, like Masonry, will always be shrouded in mystery. Many researchers believe it had a French origin as early as 1703. By some, this is claimed to be the first inception of “Female Masonry” or “Androgynous Degrees” — (degrees for both men and women).

There appeared at this time, to be a demand for “Side Degrees” or Degrees conferred on ladies, and quite a list sprang up — “Heroines of Jericho”, “Danger in the Dark”, “Tall Cedars of Lebanon”, etc. These were extensively used but soon fell into decay for lack of lasting worth.

As to the real origin of the Eastern Star degrees in its Initiatory form, there is not the least shadow of doubt that the honor belongs to Dr. Rob Morris and its real origin comes under the First Era.

Dr. Morris had traveled many years. He had written many books on Masonry which are valued references in many Masonic Libraries.

Never quite satisfied that all the good in Masonry should be confined to men, Dr. Morris felt that Masonry should be for the whole family. But by the laws of that Ancient Order, women are not eligible for its degrees. Knowing he could not change the Ancient Landmarks of Masonry, Dr. Morris sought some method by which women could share with the Masonic Brother the same inspiration that “prompts man to noble deeds.”

Although he harbored these feelings for years, it wasn’t until 1850, while confined to his home after an accident, that Dr. Morris fully developed the Eastern Star Degrees in their present initiatory form.

During this time, he carefully thought out the symbolism and significance of the floor plan and the corps of officers. He conferred the degrees upon his wife and daughters, and some neighbors, presumably having an idea to clothe the ladies with certain words or signs whereby they might make themselves known to Master Masons.

These signs and so-called mysteries of the Order were communicated freely to all Master Masons and their relatives. Dr. Morris and other prominent Master Masons gave many lectures and conferred the degrees on many ladies throughout the nation.



  

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50. "Secret Masonry symbolism found in classic paintings"
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look at how the pointer and pinky fingers extend out leaving the middle and ring fingers together to form the letter "M"

Michaelangelo's "The Creation of Adam"
http://puneetrai7.googlepages.com/TheCreationOfAdam.jpg/TheCreationOfAdam-full.jpg

from the Jesus figure in Michaelangelo's "The Last Judgement"
http://www.adishakti.org/images/jesus_and_mother.jpg

Raphael's "The Sistine Madonna"
http://www.wga.hu/art/r/raphael/5roma/2/03sisti.jpg

Girolamo Macchietti’s portrait of Lorenzo de' Medici, ruler of Florentine Republic
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/6/64/250px-Lorenzo_de\'_Medici-ritratto.jpg

Christopher Columbus – “dis-coverer” of America
http://www.terrestrialparadise.com/Quickstart/ImageLib/older-columbus.gif

Catherine de Medici – Queen of France
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/KatharinavonMedici.jpg/330px-KatharinavonMedici.jpg

Cosimo II de Medici – Duke of Florence, Grand Duke of Tuscany
http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/images/Italians/Medici,Cosimo01.jpg

Elizabeth I – Queen of England
http://www.springfield.k12.il.us/schools/Springfield/eliz/images/QueenEliz

James I – King of England who “authorized” King James Version of the Bible
http://academic.shu.edu/honors/James%20I.jpg

Nicolaus Copernicus – Astronomer
http://www.spacetoday.org/images/Europe/Copernicus.jpg

Martin Luther – lead Protestant Reformer “against” the Papacy
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/68/168854391_fc3d59771f.jpg?v=0
http://www.baldiness.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/martin-luther.jpg

Galileo Galilei – astronomer who supported Copernicanism and Scientific Revolution. Named 4 moons of Jupiter “Medicean Stars” after his patron Cosimo II de Medici
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/50965499.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=BC0826F8160ECABDB14A142782F285FC284831B75F48EF45

Isaac Newton – Physcicist, Astronomer, Alchemist
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Sir_Isaac_Newton_(1643-1727).jpg
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/BRGPOD/72317~Sir-Isaac-Newton-1710-Posters.jpg

Prince Rupert – Duke of Bavaria
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Prince_Rupert-Simon_Verelst.jpg/558px-Prince_Rupert-Simon_Verelst.jpg

King George III – King of Great Britain and Ireland and combined to form UK
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Adolf Hitler – member of Thule Society, wore Iron Cross which is a symbol of the Vatican and British Royalty
http://www.baumanconservation.com/WWIIHitler37.jpg

Franklin Delano Roosevelt – 32nd President, 33rd degree Freemason, added the Masonic Pyramid/Eagle Great Seal to the back of the dollar bill in 1933
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51. "bingo.. thumb to the small of the hand handshake"
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another sign.
EXCELLENT Kevan.
exactly.

  

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52. "Secret Masonry symbolism in Celebrity photographs"
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Look at how the pointer and pinky fingers extend out leaving the middle and ring fingers together to form the letter "M" (also found in classic paintings of leaders)

there's many more, but too many to go find and post

Doris Day – actress and singer
http://i2.iofferphoto.com/img/1124780400/_i/7933673/1.jpg

Tina Turner – The Queen of Rock-N-Roll
http://www.altmanphoto.com/tina.bookcover.jpeg
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44298000/jpg/_44298434_ike_turner2getty.jpg

Elvis Presley – The King of Rock-N-Roll
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/jukebox31_2007/ELVIS%20PRESLEY/Elvis-On-Stage-1.jpg
http://www.jillscostumes.com/images/50s/PartyGoods/Standups/ElvisMilitaryStandup.jpg

Frank Sinatra – Sinatra condemned Elvis’ music creating controversy and gave them both publicity
http://www.medaloffreedom.com/JohnFKennedy_FriendFrankSinatra.jpg

Sammy Davis Jr. – Entertainer, part of the “Rat Pack,” Satanist
http://www.sammydavisjunior.com/Musica3.jpg
http://www.iamericanright.com/pages/graphics/davisNixon.gif

Bill Cosby – awarded 2002 Medal of Freedom, Boule member
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http://www.medaloffreedom.com/BillCosby_GeorgeWBushMedalFreedom.jpg

Bing Crosby – Singer and actor
http://www.variety.com/graphics/photos/reviewg/rgoing_my_way.jpg

Raquel Welch - actress
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David Hasselhoff
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Freddy Mercury – singer of rock band Queen
http://img.mp3sugar.com/artist/artist_165.jpg

Natalie Portman
http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Albert-Watson/Natalie-Portman-Rolling-Stone-no-898-June-2002-Photographic-Print-C13020799.jpeg
Look at her dress in this pic
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Pope Benedict XVI
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Desiree Ali-Fairooz – Code Pink Anti-War Protestor
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10252007/photos/news008d.jpg

Michelle Obama – CFR member, flashes M all the time
http://www.nancarrow-webdesk.com/warehouse/storage2/2007-w48/img.86008_t.jpg
http://www.jewcy.com/files/images/michelle-obama.jpg

Oprah Winfrey
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/oprah-thumb.jpg

Jennifer Aniston
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/4225/jenn01vz0.jpg

Mariah Carey
http://www.mixmatters.com/hot/2008/images/Mariah_Carey-Bye_Bye.jpg

Jessica Simpson
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/the_dukes_of_hazzard/jessica_simpson/thedukes_portrait.jpg

Johnny Depp
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/he/photo/movie_pix/mtv/mtv_movie_awards_2007_photos/johnny_depp/mtvmovie07s1.jpg

  

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53. "RE: Secret Masonry symbolism in Celebrity photographs"
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let's not forget
Prince
Mj
Sammy D
Kool Herc (hey that's what I hear)
Robert Palmer
Jimmy Page
Mick Jagger
etc
etc

  

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54. "it brings this westside representing into a whole new light"
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it makes me wonder how much of what celebrities are doing is their actual interest and what's another type of role their taking

  

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43. "RE: fox I'm not sure you understand..."
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dude, i dont care if you smoke drugs. i am just curious to know if you do. is that really a hard question to answer?

  

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46. "First of all... you and your personal questions of any kind"
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that have nothing to do with the topic at hand..
are not only inappropriate... but so very republican of you.

ridiculous.
That's what we all want.. .
for someone who doesn't agree with our information... to ask us personal questions not relating to the topics at hand... merely to try and set the stage for a sabatoge style rebuttal..
I mean I know this topic is WAY over your head and out of your league...
so why not just say you don't know much.
and leave it there.
thank you.

  

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56. "RE: First of all... you and your personal questions of any kind"
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oh i see. you are afraid that if you admit to doing drugs that perhaps your "ideas" will be unfounded. well let me tell you something pal, your ideas are already unfounded whether you do drugs or not. i would love to see the typical day in aqua's life. wake up, smoke a bowl, eat some cheetos, make a half ass attempt at bathing. blog about how the world is out to get you, blog about the latest in green alien conspiracies, walk down the street to get a meatball sub for lunch, check in on okayplayer, spill milk all over youself, smoke a blunt and chase it with a 40, pretend to not be gay, enjoy some gay porn, cry, blog furiously about how the white man hates you, drink another 40, eat pizza, sleep

  

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57. "i didn't want to say this b4 bc i had to be sure - but u r a racist"
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or a firm believer in white supremacy
or on here just to antagonize

or all 3

possibly more..i'm trying to keep an open mind

what attracted you to okayplayer and especially the activist board?

  

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72. "RE: i didn't want to say this b4 bc i had to be sure - but u r a racist"
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>or a firm believer in white supremacy
>or on here just to antagonize
>
>or all 3
>
>possibly more..i'm trying to keep an open mind

so because i disagree with most of the sentiments on this board that makes me a racist? yea, keep that open mind...

>
>what attracted you to okayplayer and especially the activist
>board?

open debate about the state of our nation and the world.

  

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74. "disagreeing is fine, that can reveal different sides"
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but to ask if someone does drugs out of the blue with the only context being a post that you feel is too out there, you're implying that your view is superior and that person must be crazy or a drug user and their view is worse

but when you add stereotypical activities like 40s and blunts that have only be attributed to one group of people, obviously black people, it only solidifies the view one would think you are.

you don't think that's racist?

  

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97. "RE: disagreeing is fine, that can reveal different sides"
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>but to ask if someone does drugs out of the blue with the
>only context being a post that you feel is too out there,
>you're implying that your view is superior and that person
>must be crazy or a drug user and their view is worse
>
>but when you add stereotypical activities like 40s and blunts
>that have only be attributed to one group of people, obviously
>black people, it only solidifies the view one would think you
>are.
>
>you don't think that's racist?

nope. there was not one hint of racism in my mind as i wrote those posts. i was just thinking of what a slacker does on the daily. the fact that you assumed i was relating it to a specific group of people is on you.

  

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100. "haha.. slacker? So your assuming that I'm a slacker-lazy?"
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yeup.
still racist and foolish as always.
even for you.

  

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101. "oh yeah because sooo many slackers drink 40s and hit blunts"
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next time I go to a grocery store in a white or asian or indian neighborhood, I'll ask them how come you don't sell 40 ounce malt liquor? but that would be foolish because in my own experience of being in different areas, they are only in the black/latin neighborhoods.

but then you also said blunts and aren't 40s and blunts known to be a staple in hiphop and this is a hiphop-created board? even if you possibly meant a white/asian/indian/latin/etc slacker, it ultimately points back to them emulating what has been presented as cool within the hiphop community (which is another topic) which is known by all to be associated with african-americans. If this was not true, Spike Lee and countless others would not have spoken up about it numerous times.

So not only now do I know you're a racist, but you're either not aware of it or your lying, either case being sad. I suggest you go spend some time with people unlike yourself to see that not everyone fits into the box you've created for them. If that were true, this planet would be a horrible place to live.

  

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104. "exactly."
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he's ridiculous.
and his argument?
"No I'm not..."
lol.

  

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105. "you know you are really reaching when..."
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you have to put that much analysis into something i wrote. i am not a racist. i disagree with you. get over it.

  

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106. "No it sounds like you are the one who has to 'get over it'..."
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please show us how drugs, slackers, 40's and blunts have ANYTHING to do with the topic at hand?
how after all the wonderful information that has been exchanged.. .
you still want to take the 'nigger' approach to everything.

Please tie it in for us and make us understand who you 'claim' you are?
thanks.

  

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114. "RE: No it sounds like you are the one who has to 'get over it'..."
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>please show us how drugs, slackers, 40's and blunts have
>ANYTHING to do with the topic at hand?
>how after all the wonderful information that has been
>exchanged.. .
>you still want to take the 'nigger' approach to everything.
>
>Please tie it in for us and make us understand who you 'claim'
>you are?
>thanks.
>

i dont have to tie in anything for you. i know that it makes you feel better to think that i am a racist, so go ahead. what i say wont change your mind. oh, and you are the one throwing out the n word. good for you! *point proven*

  

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119. "do you prefer to be called prejudiced instead?"
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or perhaps one of these fine synonyms:

biased
jaundiced
myopic
narrow-minded
parochial
partial
ignorant

  

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120. "he'll take "Ignorant" for a thousand Alex..."
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holds up finger while saying it

  

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121. "nod to The Crying game...that HE is a SHE nm"
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109. "i am good, therefore you must be bad is the core of racism"
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i don't understand what you're saying therefore you must be on drugs is said by those with superiority complexes.

read Yurugu:An African-Centered Critique of European Cultural Thought and Behavior by Marimba Ani. I don't consider myself to be racist and there were a couple of things that had me reevaluate my views a little.

every white person should read that book, especially those who don't consder themselves to be racist.

  

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115. "RE: i am good, therefore you must be bad is the core of racism"
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>i don't understand what you're saying therefore you must be
>on drugs is said by those with superiority complexes.
>
>read Yurugu:An African-Centered Critique of European Cultural
>Thought and Behavior by Marimba Ani. I don't consider myself
>to be racist and there were a couple of things that had me
>reevaluate my views a little.
>
>every white person should read that book, especially those who
>don't consder themselves to be racist.

i dont need someone else to confirm or deny if i am a racist. that is just silly.

  

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117. "so you're unwilling to look at your views from another side"
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yet you consistently put people in boxes because their views differ than you.

since you're not willing to consider other viewpoints, I can only assume your here to proselytyze your savior view for this board. but after all that IS the neo-con republican way.

you should run for president.

  

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118. "Actually I beg to differ. Sounds like you DO need someone to tell u"
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which is exactly our point.

  

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75. "it's not the fact that you disagree..."
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it's a combination of
what you disagree about...
the constant badgering to those who do not support your republican, conservative, right wing nonsense
and the fact that instead of posting YOUR clear beliefs and were you stand...
your only job is to try and pull others down...

for example...
and this is the pot, calling the kettle white mind you....

I post something..
you don't agree with it so your rebuttal is..
"do I smoke drugs"
nothing logical.
Not an argument.
Just lowest common denominator speak.
yeah your a racist.
Not an effective one.
But still a racist.

  

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96. "RE: it's not the fact that you disagree..."
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to be clear, at first i never said i disagreed with you. i was simply asking if you use drugs recreationally. the fact that you responded so defensively answered my question. then i proceeded to insult your ridiculous lifestyle.

  

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99. "My ridiculous lifestyle? Your ASS-uming alot aren't you fox?"
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yet another sign of a racist..
placing people in boxes on sight.
Or just assuming the lowest portion of something...
as if the mere fact that I think outside of a box..
I must be.. dare I say it... high? Wow. Even for you... that's a new low.

yawn.
Go work for UPS.

  

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110. "ROFLMAO @ go work for UPS"
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>Go work for UPS.
>

  

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116. "RE: My ridiculous lifestyle? Your ASS-uming alot aren't you fox?"
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>yet another sign of a racist..
>placing people in boxes on sight.
>Or just assuming the lowest portion of something...
>as if the mere fact that I think outside of a box..
>I must be.. dare I say it... high? Wow. Even for you...
>that's a new low.
>
>yawn.
>Go work for UPS.


being prejudice is not being racist. but maybe in your world where YOU put people in boxes it is. and i am being neither because i have been posting on this board and reading your posts long enough to know that your lifestyle is a joke.

  

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61. "RE: First of all... you and your personal questions of any kind"
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you guys are hilarious....really I just find the insults you guys are trading highly entertaining...

  

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122. "RE: First of all... you and your personal questions of any kind"
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And with this you have proved his point with astounding clarity.

Sly fox has unmasked itself.

"watch what your watching" -Nas
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123. "please explain."
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I'm not clear at all on what you are saying.
thanks.

  

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125. "RE: please explain."
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Fox proved your point in regards to the asking of personal questions. Though you did not answer the question Sly Fox proceeded to attempt to discredit your views by associated you with drugs, blunts, and 40's in true media (fox five) fashion.

Ironically Sly Fox did this right after you suggested that that was the purpose of the question to begin with.

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126. "you have got to be out of your mind.."
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first...
for anyone, anywhere, at anytime to respond to my viewpoint as
'do you get high?' or... 'do you do drugs?' is insulting my man...
it proves nothing whatsoever..
if anything it shows what he thinks of black folks who challenge the status quo, it's his way of saying 'you cannot be this outside of the box.. .ur just a nigga... oh who am I kidding.. ur high?!'
or some silly, peverse logic like that...

so if that's what YOU got out of it..
I invite u to revisit highschool.. seriously.
that has nothing to do with this post or any of my posts..
it shows how judgemental, racist, and assumptive he can be.



  

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127. "Ummm...Aqua.....i'm with you on this one."
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I posted that Fox proved "your" point on where "he" was going with that question. I even likened him to fox five/sly fox (media) due to the method he was using to attempt to discredit you.

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"Devil and nigga are the same to me." -Nettrice

"it's wack to me when the beat is more hype than the M.C. cuz what he is saying

  

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128. "Now I actually like..."
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a lot of what you and Kevan are posting here. I am also somewhat in agreement with some of what Mau77 posted as well. This can be a distraction if no focus is put on what to do for ones self. Mau77 assertion that there is nothing most of us can do to put a dent in the information you're giving I think is spot on.

What Kevan brought up about ballentine law dictionary is what attention should be payed to. By the rule of law is how things are run in this world. By the use of that tool, I think, people can move themselves from under the umbrella of what you are describing. Though to do so is to exempt yourself of the priveledges and benefits afforded to those under the umbrella or system of rule.

This post also goes hand in hand with the "Limitations of scientific proof" and "Logic and Intuition...." threads posted by Mau77. Fox responses to this post exemplify what's being talked about in those articles. In that regard let the info flow free my brother. Those who can partake and digest what you are putting out will and probably will be motivated to do more research. Those who can't won't. So be it. Trying to get all the lemmings who are already running to turn in another direction will only get you pushed off the cliff. Those who are with you and can see what you see will be alongside of you.

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"The children in the street no longer seek 300 and 6-0 degrees, they park they minds at 1 oh 6 and freeze" -Pos-Freedom Train

"Devil and nigga are the same to me." -Nettrice

"it's wack to me when the beat is more hype than the M.C. cuz what he is saying

  

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129. "it depends. in the spiritual life, do we serve it or does it serve us?"
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can what we do with that information help us in the battle against this monster?

or does the information that provides us the understanding as to what this monster entails provide us with a way to figure out how to battle it or even apply the spiritual understandings in a forward manner?

or is it that the spiritual understanding is all we really need and by moving deeper into it, we become better people thereby affecting our world for the better?

can the spiritual life teach us about our world without ever having to observe it on our own without the infomation gained from intuition?

or can both paths work together?

  

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132. "RE: it depends. in the spiritual life, do we serve it or does it serve u..."
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I would say it is a 2way street and neither serves but works together.

>can what we do with that information help us in the battle
>against this monster?
>
>or does the information that provides us the understanding as
>to what this monster entails provide us with a way to figure
>out how to battle it or even apply the spiritual
>understandings in a forward manner?

This is assuming that we should be battling this "monster". This "monster" and what it entails is proposed to be so grand what makes you think you or a small few can bring it down? A large majority though not directly in on it are close enough that they will support it. I understand diseminating the information for people to see it. How many will see and not care? I'm willing to bet more than those who will. Some of us look at and think if everyone could see what I see how could they not rise up against. That is looking at the situation with blinders and believe everyone sees how you see and believes how you believe. Spending time trying to get everyone to see as you see and believe as you believe while the "monster" is bearing down on you will get you eaten first. Because your at the back of the crowd trying to push them in the direction you want them to go. Lead my dude and let those who wish to follow do so. Maybe this isn't even your fight.

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>or is it that the spiritual understanding is all we really
>need and by moving deeper into it, we become better people
>thereby affecting our world for the better?

This is possible, but I don't know for sure.

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>can the spiritual life teach us about our world without ever
>having to observe it on our own without the infomation gained
>from intuition?
>
>or can both paths work together?

I believe they work together.

  

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133. "that makes sense and puts it in perspective"
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you're right most don't care. i think that has less to do with the info and more to do with all the other conflicting information they're getting from the media. as the media is designed to do anyway. and you're right, leading is the only worthwhile reaction after the dissemination of the information. there's good advice here. i'll try to keep it in mind. thanks for your input.

  

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131. "nice tie in to Mau777's post of scientific proof..."
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I read that last night and thought it was a great post as well.

  

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60. "RE: First of all... you and your personal questions of any kind"
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lol

  

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59. "RE: Law of the Land - Man/ Law of the Sea - Money : Satanism 101"
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lol....

  

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58. "The Red Brotherhood"
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from
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9C07E5D8163CE633A2575AC0A9679C946396D6CF

A RED BROTHERHOOD APPEARS IN EUROPE; Terrorizing the Balkans with Dynamite and the Torch, Backed by Plentiful Funds.
January 9, 1912, Tuesday

PARIS, Jan. 8. -- An account of a new and mysterious political association, known as the "Red Brotherhood," which has made its appearance in the Balkans and to which a long list of bloody crimes is attributed, is cabled to-night by the Salonika correspondent of Le Temps.
The "Red Brotherhood" is an international secret society resembling the "Black Hand" in many ways and hardle less deadly. On paper bearing of representation of the rising sun, with skull and crossed swords beneath, the members have addressed letters to the Turkish Government, the Committee on Union and Progress, (Young Turks,) and the Turkish, Bulgarian, and Servian press, preaching the gospel of terror and violence in the cause of the liberty of the Balkan peoples.
"The fate of the Ottoman Empire and the Balkan States," say the Red Brethren in this manifesto, "will in all likelihood be in the near future that of Bosnia, Herzegovina, Tripoli, and Persia. The progress and liberty of the Balkan peoples can
only be safe-guarded through the co-operation of all, and carried into effect through the common effort of the democratic and revolutionary forces of all these peoples.
"In the name of liberty and progress we raise the standard of revolutionary conflict without truce or quarter--the standard of Balkan revolution.
"To terror we shall respond by terror, to violence by violence. We shall raise the blood-stained sword of revolution against the forces of reaction. Patriots and
revolutionaries, gather about this standard, which alone is saving, which alone is sacred!"
The "Red Brotherhood" keeps its secrets well. The indentity of the members is a mystery, as also the source of their funds, which, it is rumored, are immense. All its members now working in Bulgaria are said to be foreigners, and it acts quite independently
of the Bulgarian bands. It is suspected to have a close connection with the company of young Anarchists which burnt the Ottoman Bank and provoked a brief reign of terror in
Salonika in April, 1903.
The Red Brethren are accused of having assassinated five Mussulman merchants near Istib a few months ago, of having attacked a postal convoy near Strumitza last July, netting over $5,000, and of being the authors of various dynamite outrages perpetrated on the Macedonian railways. Moreover, they are believed almost certainly to have been responsible for the infernal machine which exploded in a railway station on the Salonika-Constantinople line, killing two persons.
The centres of their operations in the Balkans at present appear to be in the districts of Strumitza, Kumanova, and Krateva.
There is the gravest apprehension throughout the Balkans in view of the mysterious brotherhood's manifesto.

  

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65. "Currency > talk. Just try getting money instead of talking crazy."
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67. "//// actually Currency == Talk n/m"
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124. "RE: //// actually Currency == Talk n/m"
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Actually talk is cheap. Currency will get you an audience to listen. The problem occurs when you talk is affecting others currency. Also currency is a trap that Yadgu wishes not to reveal. When ones main goal is currency once it is attained the trap is do you speak to bring about change that will prevent you from retaining and/or sustaining that which you have focused so much of you time and energy toward.

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"Devil and nigga are the same to me." -Nettrice

"it's wack to me when the beat is more hype than the M.C. cuz what he is saying

  

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