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"SMH, when will Lupe Fiasco learn not to speak in public? [Swoops]"
Thu Jan-03-08 05:39 PM by Wordup

  

          

Lupe Bypasses Obama, "I Want Hillary To Win"

written by Danica Dow
Thursday - January 3, 2008

Over the next month voters across the country will get to pick candidates for the two major political parties. In light of the official beginning of voting season in Iowa, SOHH caught up with Lupe Fiasco to see who he is throwing his support behind.

"I'm not voting for anybody," Lupe told SOHH. "I don't believe in voting on that level. But I want Hillary to win," he says. Surprisingly, the Chicago emcee does not support the junior United States Senator from Illinois, Barack Obama.

"Obama doesn't really impress me like that," Lupe told SOHH. "It's not a shot at him but some of his agendas, the bombing of Iran and all that stuff.* He ain't gonna do nothing but perpetuate the nonsense that all the Presidents before have done, and what Bush is doing now. It's to the point now where the world is so twisted and so messed up that we need somebody to come in."

Tonight's Iowa caucus marks the first major electoral event of the nominating process for the 2008 Presidential election by essentially voting on which candidates should represent their respective parties. Because of its "first" status, the Iowa caucus is especially influential in the process of electing the Democratic and Republican candidates.

If Clinton takes Iowa, she is in a better position to win in the immediate state caucasses that follow.

"I think Hillary will set an example for women all around the world and hopefully effect some change, as opposed to another man pushing for agendas and pushing policies," Lupe said. "I think even if she don't do anything, just the statement that it makes--that the United States is run by a women--would be so phenomenal for the world."

At press time Senators Clinton, Obama, and John Edwards are in a statistical three-way tie according to most polls.




*********************Editors note********************

While all the major Democratic candidates--including Clinton, Obama and Edwards--say they would not remove military option off the table, when it comes to Iran, none have said they support the bombing of Iran.

  

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Jan 03rd 2008
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I Just gained a lot more RESPECT for LUPE
Jan 05th 2008
133
      ^^^ lol
Jan 05th 2008
153
           lol
Jan 06th 2008
161
damn cats cant have a political opinion? lol
Jan 03rd 2008
2
Why can't rappers Just Rap!! and Shut Dee Fuckk uPP
Jan 03rd 2008
3
RE: Why can't rappers Just Rap!! and Shut Dee Fuckk uPP
Jan 04th 2008
68
People get mad when entertainers DON'T speak out
Jan 04th 2008
69
im glad i aint buy tht sellout azz niggers album!
Jan 03rd 2008
4
RE: im glad i aint buy tht sellout azz niggers album!
Jan 04th 2008
52
been meaning to say thanks for the karmaloop code!
Jan 04th 2008
65
      no doubt fam!
Jan 06th 2008
163
Is he forgetting that Hilary supported the war initially
Jan 03rd 2008
5
^^^^
Jan 03rd 2008
7
I hate agreeing with this, cuz he muslim, but you 100% on this.
Jan 03rd 2008
9
Uhm...
Jan 03rd 2008
6
RE: Uhm...
Jan 03rd 2008
14
      Yes... n/m
Jan 03rd 2008
17
      Exactly
Jan 05th 2008
148
so everybody black should vote obama, is that the unsaid...
Jan 03rd 2008
8
I'm all for that shit. Not like all our woes would end if Obama became,
Jan 03rd 2008
10
likewise for white voters, since he's half white.
Jan 03rd 2008
13
lol..and since he was raised in hawaii...
Jan 03rd 2008
22
      RE: lol..and since he was raised in hawaii...
Jan 04th 2008
117
busted logic.
Jan 03rd 2008
18
I think the idea is that like many of his "conscious" peers...
Jan 03rd 2008
11
and none of those bitches vote or believe in voting
Jan 03rd 2008
15
      RE: and none of those bitches vote or believe in voting
Jan 03rd 2008
21
no, if you don't want to vote for one person...
Jan 03rd 2008
16
no, the idea is obama is not very pro-war against Iran. lol.
Jan 04th 2008
46
DING DING DING motherfucka
Jan 04th 2008
58
RE: SMH, when will Lupe Fiasco learn not to speak in public? [Swoops]
Jan 03rd 2008
12
"kinda" thinking is right.
Jan 03rd 2008
19
he doesn't believe in voting on what level?
Jan 03rd 2008
20
He's more interested in the local level stuff, I guess
Jan 03rd 2008
25
      i laughed
Jan 03rd 2008
35
      lmao
Jan 03rd 2008
39
anyone who'd vote for that miserable dyke cunt should be shot dead...
Jan 03rd 2008
23
wow ur an idiot
Jan 03rd 2008
26
use you fucking head moron...
Jan 03rd 2008
27
      ^^INTELLIGENT POSTING!
Jan 03rd 2008
31
      Mysogyny aside, I agree. n/m
Jan 04th 2008
70
      i'd vote for the right woman in a second...
Jan 04th 2008
118
      I don't even know why I bother
Jan 04th 2008
116
           yoou reely ai'nt two smart aree ya ?
Jan 04th 2008
119
Who's Guliani?
Jan 04th 2008
128
      who posts about spelling corrections?
Jan 05th 2008
142
           RE: Who can't let go of Fiascogate?
Jan 05th 2008
146
                Mr Show
Jan 05th 2008
151
                     ^^Mad that Lupe Never Got Back to Him About His Beat CD
Jan 05th 2008
157
Well, The Cool is selling a lot more than people predicted so...
Jan 03rd 2008
24
Don't get it twisted
Jan 03rd 2008
30
      niggas is like professional haters on this board.
Jan 03rd 2008
37
           So telling the truth is hating now
Jan 04th 2008
55
Way to be a role model, Lupe.
Jan 03rd 2008
28
RE: Way to be a role model, Lupe.
Jan 03rd 2008
29
RE: Way to be a role model, Lupe.
Jan 03rd 2008
32
who would consist of the "real world powers" you speak of ?
Jan 03rd 2008
33
RE: Way to be a role model, Lupe.
Jan 03rd 2008
34
ima big lupe fan, but this nicca oded tho!
Jan 04th 2008
56
OK...maybe earlier in his career he did...
Jan 03rd 2008
36
thanks for breaking it down, fiasco!
Jan 03rd 2008
41
lol... n/m
Jan 04th 2008
45
hillary voted to classify iran's revolutionary guard as terrorists
Jan 03rd 2008
42
bingo
Jan 04th 2008
53
I hoped that this reply would clear things up. apparently not
Jan 04th 2008
47
Mrs. Clinton is far from the answer.
Jan 04th 2008
49
so if you believe that, why do you think Hilary
Jan 04th 2008
50
As close as the Iowa primary was, your vote definitely does count.
Jan 04th 2008
66
stop encouraging him.
Jan 04th 2008
72
you sound like a lunatic Libertarian
Jan 04th 2008
79
And Chomsky? A Socialist? YOU SELL HIPHOP IMAGE/ALBUMS
Jan 04th 2008
80
LOL, your shit is garbage whatchu tryin' to kick knowledge?(c)iWon
Jan 04th 2008
97
RE: Way to be a role model, Lupe.
Jan 05th 2008
149
RE: Way to be a role model, Lupe.
Jan 05th 2008
155
democracy is the supression of the minority, it's not social equality
Jan 05th 2008
156
RE: Way to be a role model, Lupe.
Jan 05th 2008
160
STFU!!!
Jan 04th 2008
64
I'm juss sayin'
Jan 05th 2008
138
Maybe lupe's right
Jan 03rd 2008
38
i think all of this has been cleared up though
Jan 03rd 2008
40
Obama open to dialouge with Iran
Jan 04th 2008
43
      correct. Lu was misinformed on this one.
Jan 04th 2008
59
well, no, lupe was talking about IRAN...on that, he was wrong
Jan 04th 2008
44
I don't agree with dude at all
Jan 04th 2008
48
Some of y'all are so lame... n/m
Jan 04th 2008
51
You just want to get on the Lupe hate bandwagon for some respect
Jan 04th 2008
54
He can have his views, but i hope he's basing them on the correct info
Jan 04th 2008
60
      ^^EXACTLY^^
Jan 04th 2008
61
      yep
Jan 04th 2008
62
      You missed the point of this entire thread
Jan 04th 2008
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           But if you're a public figure and you put you're views out there
Jan 04th 2008
75
                That's not why this thread exists
Jan 04th 2008
86
                     So we wouldn't clown if Jay or Cam or another rapper didn't say this?
Jan 04th 2008
88
                          It's not an attack on Lupe per se, his comments are misinformed
Jan 04th 2008
89
                          Thank you!
Jan 04th 2008
91
                          It wouldn't get any attention at all
Jan 04th 2008
95
                               That's flat out bullshit
Jan 04th 2008
99
                                    All race posts go platinum
Jan 04th 2008
105
                                         Has Cage stated it publicly?
Jan 04th 2008
113
^
Jan 04th 2008
57
Lupe needs a big homie...
Jan 04th 2008
63
Damn!
Jan 04th 2008
67
Lupe, you stupid.
Jan 04th 2008
71
lu how could you like hillary? she's evil man i've seen it in her eyes
Jan 04th 2008
74
point of information...
Jan 04th 2008
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      damn i'm idiot. my sis misinformed me
Jan 04th 2008
83
I feel like this is him trying to prove some sort of point again
Jan 04th 2008
77
It's childish
Jan 04th 2008
78
its Lupe though...
Jan 04th 2008
82
Same thing most okps do
Jan 04th 2008
90
This Thread = ...Because The Lesson Couldn't Hate On The Album
Jan 04th 2008
81
no, this thread=The Lesson/media jumped the gun on Lupe=different
Jan 04th 2008
84
You all need to pay attention. most of this thread is not hate, it is...
Jan 04th 2008
92
Nghs can't have opinions now?!
Jan 04th 2008
85
see reply #60
Jan 04th 2008
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wheter one things it's right or wrong is irrelevant
Jan 04th 2008
93
      Demonstrably false truths
Jan 04th 2008
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      it's not that
Jan 04th 2008
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           Telling someone it's best not to speak w/o proper knowledge
Jan 04th 2008
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                people are gonna talk out of there ass anyway. we can't stop that.
Jan 04th 2008
103
                     Oh mos def
Jan 04th 2008
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                          me too. you seem like a formidable opponent. *bows*
Jan 04th 2008
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                               lol. I think that's what draws all of us to these boards
Jan 04th 2008
110
                                    that's why i can't talk to my family about movies
Jan 04th 2008
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                                         lol. my mom has banned me from picking movies
Jan 04th 2008
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                                              my family has come around on that tip
Jan 04th 2008
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                                                   Crazy thing is
Jan 04th 2008
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      fact doesn't have versions though
Jan 04th 2008
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           unfortunately facts do have versions
Jan 04th 2008
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                if it can be changed then it's not fact
Jan 04th 2008
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                     that's what i mean.
Jan 04th 2008
104
                          gotcha!
Jan 04th 2008
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                          .
Jan 04th 2008
109
I'm trying to figure that shit out too
Jan 04th 2008
124
What does Ja Rule think about this? Where's JA!? (c) Dave Chappelle
Jan 04th 2008
120
RE: What does Ja Rule think about this? (c) Chris Rock
Jan 04th 2008
121
      Good I... Rock mentioned Ja in a diff. joke relating to Pac.
Jan 04th 2008
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           who the fuck cares what ja rule thinks at a time like this!!!!!
Jan 04th 2008
127
                yeah, I know.. did you ever see this? Dave in London 2007.
Jan 04th 2008
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                ^^^The reason Dave quit Chappelle Show
Jan 04th 2008
130
                     i'm a fan of his stand up more than his cable show, mr wisenheimer...
Jan 05th 2008
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                          RE: ^^Kept saying "Im Rick James, Bitch" up until spring of 07
Jan 05th 2008
145
                               ^^^ buys weed from the baby Dave met in baltimore
Jan 05th 2008
150
                                    RE: ^^^ The white kid who wore an Africa medallion in '93
Jan 05th 2008
159
                                         you two jerks ruined a pretty good post, proud of yourselves?
Jan 06th 2008
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                                              RE: you two jerks ruined a pretty good post, proud of yourselves?
Jan 06th 2008
165
                                              lol@ ruining a post in the lesson...
Jan 06th 2008
166
y'all listen to rappers for their political opinions?
Jan 04th 2008
122
half right, I'm not voting either, but Hillary is a warhawk on Iran TOO
Jan 04th 2008
123
oh F*CK THAT EDITORS NOTE!!! (.................
Jan 04th 2008
125
giving someone 48 hours to do something is warlike
Jan 05th 2008
154
Why Do We Care about Lupe's Politics again?
Jan 04th 2008
131
^^^ what i came here to say
Jan 05th 2008
132
**THREAD OVER**
Jan 05th 2008
134
I swore he was rocking his faith and beliefs on his sleeve
Jan 05th 2008
135
      RE: I swore he was rocking his faith and beliefs on his sleeve
Jan 05th 2008
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RE: SMH, when will Lupe Fiasco learn not to speak in public? [Swoops]
Jan 05th 2008
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that's because people lack the understand as to why the electoral colleg...
Jan 05th 2008
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dont agree about not voting but hes entitled to his opinions
Jan 05th 2008
137
RE: dont agree about not voting but hes entitled to his opinions
Jan 05th 2008
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      with that login, you should recuse yourself from this convo n/m
Jan 05th 2008
144
Lu, dont be an idiot.
Jan 05th 2008
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i'll tell you what you should do
Jan 05th 2008
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I'm beginning to think ya'll do like Lupe.
Jan 05th 2008
158
'Hold on but we have Ja-Rule on the line"
Jan 06th 2008
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this is how you post ^^^^
Jan 06th 2008
167

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133. "I Just gained a lot more RESPECT for LUPE"
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I'm happy someone in the game finally said that.

Obama isn't the best for the job.

I am mixed. Black and white.

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153. "^^^ lol"
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161. " lol"
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not that anyone here should be foolish enough to be swayed by the coolest Lupe Fiasco
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2. "damn cats cant have a political opinion? lol"
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i mean i dont like hillary but dayum this is just some I hate loopay hate

  

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3. "Why can't rappers Just Rap!! and Shut Dee Fuckk uPP"
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too many rappers want to be a basketball player, politician, clothing designer, american gangster(dboy), internet blogger, and complete arrogant asshole at all times and at the same time!!
thats why hip-hop is dead...nobody is totally focused on hip-hop anymore!

JUST MAKE MUSIC ...is that not interesting anymore?

is making music not enough anymore?


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68. "RE: Why can't rappers Just Rap!! and Shut Dee Fuckk uPP"
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He was supposed to decline the question then?

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69. "People get mad when entertainers DON'T speak out"
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that is until they show themselves to have a dissenting opinion. Then its SHUT THE FUCK UP!! Let the cat have his opinion on whatever he wants. It doesn't directly effect you, and has nothing to do with his dayjob.

  

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4. "im glad i aint buy tht sellout azz niggers album!"
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52. "RE: im glad i aint buy tht sellout azz niggers album!"
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Great usage of the word "n*gger." That really makes me want to listen to your opinion.

  

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5. "Is he forgetting that Hilary supported the war initially"
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then flipped the script when the block got hot. He's right about needing new blood, but Hilary ain't exactly new. Plus, the fact that she's a woman has zero standing with me. He's just talking out of his ass like he usually does. I know cats are impressed by his intricate rhyme schemes, metaphors and double entendres, but it's bullshit if you're not actually saying anything.

  

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7. "^^^^"
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>then flipped the script when the block got hot. He's right
>about needing new blood, but Hilary ain't exactly new. Plus,
>the fact that she's a woman has zero standing with me. He's
>just talking out of his ass like he usually does. I know cats
>are impressed by his intricate rhyme schemes, metaphors and
>double entendres, but it's bullshit if you're not actually
>saying anything.

  

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6. "Uhm..."
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Wasn't Obama lambasted because he said he was willingly to OPENLY talk with Iran in securing peace in the region? Other than Lupe being wrong about that...I have no problem with him supporting Hillary.

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14. "RE: Uhm..."
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wasn't hillary the one that actually SUPPORTED the idea of bombing iran???

i always backed lupe in the past, but he takes a "L" for this one....homie lives his life as a contradiction

  

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148. "Exactly"
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Hillary voted to label a group in Iran a terrorist state. Paving the way to bomb Iran.

Lupe, educate yourself on the issues before making silly statements like this one.

>wasn't hillary the one that actually SUPPORTED the idea of
>bombing iran???
>
>i always backed lupe in the past, but he takes a "L" for this
>one....homie lives his life as a contradiction

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8. "so everybody black should vote obama, is that the unsaid..."
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...main idea of this post?

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10. "I'm all for that shit. Not like all our woes would end if Obama became,"
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president...but it damn sure would be better for us than ANYONE else in the history of the USA.


FOR THAT IM SURE.



Seriously OBAMA is the line in the sand, if he gets the DEM nod. If you're BLACK & don't support him, YOU'RE A FUCKING SELLOUT & ARE NO LONGER PART OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY.


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13. "likewise for white voters, since he's half white."
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If you're WHITE & don't support him, YOU'RE A FUCKING SELLOUT & ARE NO LONGER PART OF THE WHITE COMMUNITY.

  

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22. "lol..and since he was raised in hawaii..."
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If you're HAWAIIAN & don't support him, YOU'RE A FUCKING SELLOUT & ARE NO LONGER PART OF THE HAWAIIAN COMMUNITY.

  

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117. "RE: lol..and since he was raised in hawaii..."
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this made me lol

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18. "busted logic."
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11. "I think the idea is that like many of his "conscious" peers..."
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he is very politically uninformed...but like he said that "conscious" title was forced on him so....yeah...there is really no point for this post I guess

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15. "and none of those bitches vote or believe in voting"
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yet they whine about politicians and the state of the country when they had the opportunity to elect someone better and chose not to. bitches.

  

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21. "RE: and none of those bitches vote or believe in voting"
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please tell me youre white

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16. "no, if you don't want to vote for one person..."
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don't turn around and root for another who stands for the very thing that you object in the 1st place!

i'd rather him say he root ron paul...because at LEAST it would of made more sense...

  

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46. "no, the idea is obama is not very pro-war against Iran. lol."
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58. "DING DING DING motherfucka"
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12. "RE: SMH, when will Lupe Fiasco learn not to speak in public? [Swoops]"
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At least Lupe is kinda thinking instead of voting for a person who shares the same skin color, but not necessarily the same beliefs. Nice to see that.

On a side note, if Obama gets elected as president, do you think he will be assassinated?

  

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19. ""kinda" thinking is right."
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20. "he doesn't believe in voting on what level?"
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http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/mccaincake.jpg http://blog.prospect.org/blog/ezraklein/usweekly.jpg http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/R/e/1/mccain_bush_hug.jpg

  

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25. "He's more interested in the local level stuff, I guess"
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Stuff that directly affects where he can and can't skateboard.

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35. "i laughed"
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>Stuff that directly affects where he can and can't
>skateboard.

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39. "lmao"
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23. "anyone who'd vote for that miserable dyke cunt should be shot dead..."
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...fuckin fake new yorker clueless bitch ....and John Edwards?? LMAO!!! ...Obama isnt great but he's still better than anyone else the dems got ...Guliani & the Mormon aint winning shit anyway

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26. "wow ur an idiot"
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so if hilary ends up winning millions of people should be shot dead? stick to talking abt 90's hiphop.

but back to the topic. I'm glad Lupe came out and said this. Obama's not ready to be president.
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27. "use you fucking head moron..."
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...you think this country has problems NOW??? smh, you people have NO CLUE how shaky the future of the country is about to be

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31. "^^INTELLIGENT POSTING!"
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> ...you think this country has problems NOW??? smh, you
>people have NO CLUE how shaky the future of the country is
>about to be

^^ Truth-teller!

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70. "Mysogyny aside, I agree. n/m"
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118. "i'd vote for the right woman in a second..."
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...but Hilary is far from the right person for the job ...i dont care what gender, faith or race the candidate is

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116. "I don't even know why I bother"
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> ...you think this country has problems NOW??? smh, you
>people have NO CLUE how shaky the future of the country is
>about to be

where did I ever say this country has problems? I asked you a question about the ridiculous statement you made and you follow up with an unrelated question and a vague prediction. ooh please, tell me more SP. what will the future be like? hopefully millions of people will be shot in the head so that our country will be on the right track.
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119. "yoou reely ai'nt two smart aree ya ?"
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128. "Who's Guliani?"
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146. "RE: Who can't let go of Fiascogate?"
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157. "^^Mad that Lupe Never Got Back to Him About His Beat CD"
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24. "Well, The Cool is selling a lot more than people predicted so..."
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...Lupe haters gotta bitch about something

  

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30. "Don't get it twisted"
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The Cool is selling what it would've sold anyway. It's an okay album doing okay numbers.

  

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55. "So telling the truth is hating now"
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y'all dickriders are quick to take it to the extreme. I didn't say the album was shitty. It's okay. It's not doing phenomenol numbers, they're good for what it is, which is okay. He'll probably go gold...eventually. I wouldn't count on platinum, unless the right single hits at just the right time. Honestly, I don't hear anything on The Cool being that though. There's not a song on it that would work in the mainstream. He's a left of center artist not the next Hov, deal with it.

  

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28. "Way to be a role model, Lupe."
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I wouldn't tell a soul that I didn't vote. Then he's gonna complain about how politicians lie?


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29. "RE: Way to be a role model, Lupe."
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his POV, who cares... so what he doesnt like obama... yeh there both from chicago...he likes hiliary...

  

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32. "RE: Way to be a role model, Lupe."
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I'll recheck my facts on the Iran issue...but i saw that somewhere early in my research of his career...anyways whatever with politics at the end of the day on a national level...your vote on that level does NOT count...see Electoral College...unless a redistribution of the wealth and moneys made during slavery and the slave trade or an outlaw of the federal reserve system or a withdrawal of all U.S. Forces from soverign nations that no longer require their presence for security or an abolishment of the NSA and Homeland Security and U.S. funded terrorist organizations...then politics and democracy (which the real definition is "social equality" when was the last time u saw that ???) on national level is simply another reality show to keep u entertained and distracted while the REAL world powers get their plans in order to really fuck us over...Read some Chomsky and watch Zeitgeist the movie most of it ain't a bunch of bullshit...good night OKP...Thanx for all the online love on the album...

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33. "who would consist of the "real world powers" you speak of ?"
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34. "RE: Way to be a role model, Lupe."
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Fam so if you know this why even say you want to see anyone win?.... Most of us know its a fucking joke... if you know whats happening why even comment on who you want to win? In all actuality you voted just not with a ballot. You casted a vot verbally and showed support.... Real talk cuzo from chicago nigga to chicago nigga stick to your guns famo and learn when to speak and when not too that will save you a lot of backlash. You probably will take this as disrespect but im just being real with you... you will always get some support from me being from the chi and all but fam take that advice tho..I think you will be aiight

  

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56. "ima big lupe fan, but this nicca oded tho!"
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>Fam so if you know this why even say you want to see anyone
>win?.... Most of us know its a fucking joke... if you know
>whats happening why even comment on who you want to win? In
>all actuality you voted just not with a ballot. You casted a
>vot verbally and showed support.... Real talk cuzo from
>chicago nigga to chicago nigga stick to your guns famo and
>learn when to speak and when not too that will save you a lot
>of backlash. You probably will take this as disrespect but im
>just being real with you... you will always get some support
>from me being from the chi and all but fam take that advice
>tho..I think you will be aiight

Lup aint have to say all that

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36. "OK...maybe earlier in his career he did..."
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I just know during the debates he said he would openly work with Iran and FOX News jumped all over it (we have secret talks with Iran now btw). If you feel Hillary is the better presidential canidate I'm all for it. Just hoping you weren't goin into it with your facts twisted. She is far more into the sabre-rattling than both Obama or Edwards.

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41. "thanks for breaking it down, fiasco!"
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now i'm not going to vote and i'll tell all my friends not to vote either!

  

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45. "lol... n/m"
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42. "hillary voted to classify iran's revolutionary guard as terrorists"
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that's more of a precursor to starting war with iran than anything obama's ever done.

obama was not present to vote (so i *would* understand your criticism of his failure to vote), but supporting hillary who DID vote in favor of that bit of saber-rattling is not very sensible if you are anti-war with Iran.

declaring a component of any state's military a terrorist organization is tantamount to saying the whole nation/state actively supports terrorism and in a post 9/11 world is essentially a precursor to war.

imagine how we would act if some country declared the CIA a terrorist organization for its cover activities/assassinations/government destabilizing acts? the u.s. gov't would consider such a declaration to be 'hostile to our interests'.
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53. "bingo"
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>imagine how we would act if some country declared the CIA a
>terrorist organization for its cover
>activities/assassinations/government destabilizing acts? the
>u.s. gov't would consider such a declaration to be 'hostile to
>our interests'.

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47. "I hoped that this reply would clear things up. apparently not"
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>anyways
>whatever with politics at the end of the day on a national
>level...your vote on that level does NOT count...see Electoral
>College...

Thank you for enlightening us. I agree that the electoral college needs to be overhauled. But we need to stay politically active as a people so that in this system those who do decide will at least HEAR us and hear our voice and opinions, and voting is a key part in this. Just look at today's primaries. Obama inspired a lot of young people to go out to the caucuses and participate for the first time. It's a fucked system, but unlike a lot of systems that you can just say "fuck that" to, you still have to play along with this one for the time being... or ensure you get fucked.



unless a redistribution of the wealth and moneys
>made during slavery and the slave trade or an outlaw of the
>federal reserve system or a withdrawal of all U.S. Forces from
>soverign nations that no longer require their presence for
>security or an abolishment of the NSA and Homeland Security
>and U.S. funded terrorist organizations...then politics and
>democracy (which the real definition is "social equality" when
>was the last time u saw that ???) on national level is simply
>another reality show to keep u entertained and distracted
>while the REAL world powers get their plans in order to
>really fuck us over...

Oh jeeze. C'mon man. Aside from addressing all of these (possibly/semi true) conspiracy theories, I will question your support of Hilary... How is she NOT part of this system? She lived in the white house for 8 years. She tried to overhaul the healthcare system and failed miserably. And now she's apparently the democratic nominee who receives THE MOST money from health insurance companies! She's a what, 2 term senator? She IS the system man. Don't let her vag fool you... she is too divisive and it will be politics as usual if she's elected. Electing a woman wouldn't prove any more than electing a black man would, or maybe slightly less. There have already been a few woman leaders in Europe over the past couple decades.


I mean, obviously, being a political science major is not one of your job requirements, but what you just said here and in your original quoted statements just sounds so uneducated on the issue and processes, and I think that being in the position that you are in, dude... please don't speak on politics unless you know what you're saying.


>good night
>OKP...Thanx for all the online love on the album...
>
hey, no problem dude. The Cool really did make up for the bullshit from earlier in the year, and we appreciate you coming through and posting here.


P.S. I support and WILL vote for Barack Obama.

peace
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49. "Mrs. Clinton is far from the answer."
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Obama for President. And good job on the Cool.

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50. "so if you believe that, why do you think Hilary"
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would be such a great change?

  

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66. "As close as the Iowa primary was, your vote definitely does count."
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"You post like you look your barber in the eyes when he lines you up."

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72. "stop encouraging him."
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any vote not cast for hillary is a good thing.

  

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79. "you sound like a lunatic Libertarian"
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not good

  

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80. "And Chomsky? A Socialist? YOU SELL HIPHOP IMAGE/ALBUMS"
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shakeshead

  

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97. "LOL, your shit is garbage whatchu tryin' to kick knowledge?(c)iWon"
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149. "RE: Way to be a role model, Lupe."
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>I'll recheck my facts on the Iran issue...but i saw that
>somewhere early in my research of his career...anyways
>whatever with politics at the end of the day on a national
>level...your vote on that level does NOT count...see Electoral
>College...unless a redistribution of the wealth and moneys
>made during slavery and the slave trade or an outlaw of the
>federal reserve system or a withdrawal of all U.S. Forces from
>soverign nations that no longer require their presence for
>security or an abolishment of the NSA and Homeland Security
>and U.S. funded terrorist organizations...then politics and
>democracy (which the real definition is "social equality" when
>was the last time u saw that ???) on national level is simply
>another reality show to keep u entertained and distracted
>while the REAL world powers get their plans in order to
>really fuck us over...Read some Chomsky and watch Zeitgeist
>the movie most of it ain't a bunch of bullshit...good night
>OKP...Thanx for all the online love on the album...
>
>Go God!!!

Here is what Rhymefest had to say about Lupe's comments

Quote:



Recently, a prominent Hip-Hop website asked an artist who they supported in the 2008 presidential primaries. Shockingly, their response was Hilary Clinton. Now, I'm not one to judge a person's political, religious or artistic views; however, the reasons that this artist gave were so ****ing erroneous and outrageous that it compels me to speak out, even if only to give fans the right information so that we are not following uninformed-ass rappers down the hole of 'abstract nothingness.'

First of all, the facts:
Barack Obama has stated he is not opposed to military action against Iran if they were persistent in their ambitions to obtain nuclear weapons; weapons being the operative word. However, he also states that as president, he plans to talk to Iran without preconditions about certain assurances in the context of them showing some good faith, as well. Barack Obama stated “I think it is important for us to send a signal that we are not hell-bent on regime change, just for the sake of regime change, but expect changes in behavior. And there are both carrots and there are sticks available to them for those changes in behavior.” This clearly does not describe the agenda of a candidate who supports 'the bombing of Iran and all that stuff.'

I would be very interested to know if this particular artist even knows what Hilary Clinton's position is pertaining to military action against Iran; and, no, I'm not giving him the answer.

Barack Obama being the only Black senator from Illinois automatically gives me a sense of pride and appreciation for his journey. Of course, for America to be flipped on its axis with a qualified woman president would be a significant milestone in this chapter of our country's history. But, I fail to see how a qualified Black man as president wouldn't be just as significant a milestone. Please, to all artists who dare to speak on political issues in this election: understand that Barack Obama won the Iowa caucus by inspiring more young people and women to vote than any previous presidential candidate. How could it not be impressive to see the new Bobby Kennedy of our day in the White House?

In the words of Gabriel when he revealed the Holy Qur'an to the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in the cave: "READ." Please do not let your arrogance be the fuel for your ignorance.

I believe that Rhymefest sums things up we'll.....

  

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155. "RE: Way to be a role model, Lupe."
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>I'll recheck my facts on the Iran issue...but i saw that
>somewhere early in my research of his career...anyways
>whatever with politics at the end of the day on a national
>level...your vote on that level does NOT count...see Electoral
>College...unless a redistribution of the wealth and moneys
>made during slavery and the slave trade or an outlaw of the
>federal reserve system or a withdrawal of all U.S. Forces from
>soverign nations that no longer require their presence for
>security or an abolishment of the NSA and Homeland Security
>and U.S. funded terrorist organizations...then politics and
>democracy (which the real definition is "social equality" when
>was the last time u saw that ???) on national level is simply
>another reality show to keep u entertained and distracted
>while the REAL world powers get their plans in order to
>really fuck us over...Read some Chomsky and watch Zeitgeist
>the movie most of it ain't a bunch of bullshit...good night
>OKP...Thanx for all the online love on the album...
>
>Go God!!!

This is what Rhymefest had to say about Lupe's comments:




Recently, a prominent Hip-Hop website asked an artist who they supported in the 2008 presidential primaries. Shockingly, their response was Hilary Clinton. Now, I'm not one to judge a person's political, religious or artistic views; however, the reasons that this artist gave were so ****ing erroneous and outrageous that it compels me to speak out, even if only to give fans the right information so that we are not following uninformed-ass rappers down the hole of 'abstract nothingness.'

First of all, the facts:
Barack Obama has stated he is not opposed to military action against Iran if they were persistent in their ambitions to obtain nuclear weapons; weapons being the operative word. However, he also states that as president, he plans to talk to Iran without preconditions about certain assurances in the context of them showing some good faith, as well. Barack Obama stated “I think it is important for us to send a signal that we are not hell-bent on regime change, just for the sake of regime change, but expect changes in behavior. And there are both carrots and there are sticks available to them for those changes in behavior.” This clearly does not describe the agenda of a candidate who supports 'the bombing of Iran and all that stuff.'

I would be very interested to know if this particular artist even knows what Hilary Clinton's position is pertaining to military action against Iran; and, no, I'm not giving him the answer.

Barack Obama being the only Black senator from Illinois automatically gives me a sense of pride and appreciation for his journey. Of course, for America to be flipped on its axis with a qualified woman president would be a significant milestone in this chapter of our country's history. But, I fail to see how a qualified Black man as president wouldn't be just as significant a milestone. Please, to all artists who dare to speak on political issues in this election: understand that Barack Obama won the Iowa caucus by inspiring more young people and women to vote than any previous presidential candidate. How could it not be impressive to see the new Bobby Kennedy of our day in the White House?

In the words of Gabriel when he revealed the Holy Qur'an to the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in the cave: "READ." Please do not let your arrogance be the fuel for your ignorance.

  

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156. "democracy is the supression of the minority, it's not social equality"
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Act II?

COM/MUNITY
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160. "RE: Way to be a role model, Lupe."
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Do you Lu...thats all i gotta say...

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64. "STFU!!!"
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138. "I'm juss sayin'"
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One of the ways a civilian has the ability to change things is through a vote. Being a bystander who's partially involved doesn't seem like the best way to start a trend. Imagine if everyone else did the same?


You can swim in the Sea of Knowledge and still come out dry. -Norton Juster

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38. "Maybe lupe's right"
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http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:nDG7Hy2daNEJ:www.antiwar.com/justin/%3Farticleid%3D10181+barack+obama+bombing+iran&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&client=firefox-a

  

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40. "i think all of this has been cleared up though"
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As you can see this article/his statements are over a year old, and the situation with Iran has changed, and I don't think anyone is saying bomb them at this point. I can't point you to anything specific about his current views right now (hopefully someone else can), but I believe it is a dead issue and he has cleared up his views at this point.

peace
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43. "Obama open to dialouge with Iran"
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Fri Jan-04-08 12:03 AM by Vic Grimes

          

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/02/us/politics/01cnd-obama.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

*edit*

I'd also like to point out in the earlier article posted Obama said that bombing Iran would be a LAST resort if Iran was PROVEN to have nuclear weapons and the capability to use them.

I'm not even a Democrat and I know that Obama isn't on the war path....

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59. "correct. Lu was misinformed on this one."
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Last year, every candidate (minus Ron Paul) was saying pretty much the same thing regarding Iran. Obama was the only candidate that took it a step further and said he would go to war with Iran only as a LAST OPTION if the facts were proven. (just as said above)

In light of recent events and facts coming to surface Im pretty sure his stance has changed.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/foreignpolicy/

Opposed Bush-Cheney Saber Rattling: Obama opposed the Kyl-Lieberman amendment, which says we should use our military presence in Iraq to counter the threat from Iran. Obama believes that it was reckless for Congress to give George Bush any justification to extend the Iraq War or to attack Iran. Obama also introduced a resolution in the Senate declaring that no act of Congress – including Kyl-Lieberman – gives the Bush administration authorization to attack Iran.

  

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44. "well, no, lupe was talking about IRAN...on that, he was wrong"
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Obama, to my knowledge, has not advocated war with Iran and seems to describe the decision to attempt to declare the Quds arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as 'terrorists' to be dangerous sable rattling.

Obama did not vote when this matter came before the Senate. Clinton, who Lupe supports, voted in favor. While not voting is not the same as opposing, voting in favor is an obvious 'pro' stance.

Lupe would be better to oppose Hillary and question Obama's failure to vote, but to support Hillary when he opposes Obama out of concern for Iranian policy is DEEPLY MISGUIDED.

As for what you post, Obama's position as near as I can tell supports a limited force remaining in Iraq. Considering the largest U.S. embassy in the world has now been built in Iraq, some U.S. military presence there is to be expected and pretty much every mainstream politician who is to the right of Kucinich would fall in line there (I believe Kucinich, a staunch anti-imperialist, wants total withdrawal).

Not voting for Obama will not hasten total withdrawal. This is a bit of compromise...in that Obama is the candidate both likely to be able to win AND likely to significantly draw down forces (although he will not totally withdraw).

edit: the author of the article linked above is conflating missle strikes with all-out war on iran...while i generally oppose missle strikes b/c of their tendency to cause high civilian casaulties and their general ineffectiveness militarily (afghanistan '98, anyone?). however, missle strikes are generally supported by centrists such as obama and (bill) clinton. i'm not expecting obama to radically alter the way our military operates and no one should expect any major presidential candidate to do so

*excessive political talk snipped*

um, i can talk about this for ages. but this is still the lesson. i'm an obama guy. folks with questions, hit the inbox.
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48. "I don't agree with dude at all"
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but damn that man has as much right as you to speak.

  

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51. "Some of y'all are so lame... n/m"
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Peace,

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54. "You just want to get on the Lupe hate bandwagon for some respect"
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You're obviously reaching because he's allowed political views that you or anybody disagrees with.

It's pretty sad.

That being said, OBAMA JUST CRUSHED IOWA MOTHAFUCKAS!

...says Wrongthink

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60. "He can have his views, but i hope he's basing them on the correct info"
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...he needs to go back and reexamine why he supports hillary, because some--scratch that, most--of the reasoning in his quoted statements is flawed.

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61. "^^EXACTLY^^"
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>...he needs to go back and reexamine why he supports hillary,
>because some--scratch that, most--of the reasoning in his
>quoted statements is flawed.

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62. "yep"
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73. "You missed the point of this entire thread"
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It wasn't to discuss or debate political ideas. Don't you think 90% of rappers have clownable political positions?

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75. "But if you're a public figure and you put you're views out there"
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You gotta know that they're open for scrutiny, especially when you go around name dropping authors/philosophers to prove how smart you are. Game recognize game, my degree's in english, I know how to talk at length without saying anything substantial. That's all Lupe does and lots of people praise him for it.

  

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86. "That's not why this thread exists"
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...says Wrongthink

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88. "So we wouldn't clown if Jay or Cam or another rapper didn't say this?"
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Granted Lupe's reputation on this board draws more attention, but I think a lot of these comments would still be made regardless. I can only speak for myself, though.

  

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89. "It's not an attack on Lupe per se, his comments are misinformed"
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if jay or cam (ha!) or whoever else shared their political opinions that's fine. there is nothing wrong with Lupe wanting to speak political. My problem is that he apparently doesn't have his facts straight, but is trying to sound educated on the topic and that his opinion, BASED on his shared facts, is legit. but he's mis-informed big time. If Jay or whoever else said the same things, that Obama wants to bomb Iran, Hillary is the candidate of real change as opposed to Obama, don't bother voting because it's not worth it, etc... I would call them out for being politically ill-educated, too.

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91. "Thank you!"
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But just because we're criticizing their beloved Lupe, we're hating. Sans the fact that none of the people screaming hater have addressed the fact that he was severely misinformed.

  

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95. "It wouldn't get any attention at all"
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...says Wrongthink

Real talk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12JJv6yCk7Q

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99. "That's flat out bullshit"
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If any rapper with a reasonable profile made a comment like this, we'd be on it.

Hell, there was just like an 80-something deep post on Cage, dude, Cage. We barely ever talk about dude and he's mos def not mainstream, but when he said something controversial peeps discussed.

  

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105. "All race posts go platinum"
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Do any of you know who Cage is voting for?

...says Wrongthink

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113. "Has Cage stated it publicly?"
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I get what you're saying though. I just think if any artist who is on OKP's radar said something similar, we'd be on that shit. Granted Grandmaster Bud ain't going to get as many responses, but if we saw it we'd probably say something, or at least I would. It's a mix of both content and his rep on this board.

  

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57. "^"
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peace
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63. "Lupe needs a big homie..."
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somebody just to sit him down, and explain to him to think about what he says before he says it.

<--- we've got bush!

  

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67. "Damn!"
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Just when I finally get back on the Lupe bandwagon (his new stuff is niiice) he says something "STUPID" to f*ck it all up!

Lupe, I have nothing but respect for you, but you are mixing up your candidates. True, Obama doesn't have much experience but it was your girl Hillary who was gung-ho about Iran! She's so busy trying to prove that a woman can do the job just like a man (meaning war) that she is turning off some of her strongest supporters. Obama actually wanted to do what should be done, TALK IT OUT FIRST! ACT LATER!

I'm quick to go either Obama or Edwards, forget Hill.


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71. "Lupe, you stupid."
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74. "lu how could you like hillary? she's evil man i've seen it in her eyes"
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lol

and obama is muslim just like you!

  

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76. "point of information..."
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Obama's not Muslim.

  

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83. "damn i'm idiot. my sis misinformed me"
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my bad

  

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77. "I feel like this is him trying to prove some sort of point again"
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It's like he HATES feeling like people have him pegged and that he should act or behave a certain way or do things that are expected because of who he is and the type of music he makes. I suspect that many people see Barack, a Black candidate, and then make the foregone conclusion that any Black person is going to support him (which DOES annoy me).

So in this case, Lupe goes the unexpected route again and is like "naw, I won't be voting for the Black candidate whose from my state" lol and instead voices his support for his competitor. Now, there's nothing at all wrong with him not automatically falling in line behind Obama or preferring Hillary (or Edwards or Huckabee or whoever), it's just his reasoning behind supporting one and not the other is embarrassing and misinformed as hell.

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78. "It's childish"
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Like dude feeling the need to drop a name associated with high academia in almost every interview. It screams "look at me I'm smart, I've read Neitzsche and Chomsky." Yet he hasn't expressed any original ideas to show that he's actually soaked that information in. It's kind of hilarious and pathetic when you think about it.

  

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82. "its Lupe though..."
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somehow he has it in his mind that what he says is something deep or of substance.

and apparently somebody has told him that to keep him going on and on and not realizing he sounds like a fool.

like i said above, he needs a big homie to sit down with him and straighten him out.

dude embarrasses himself each time he opens his mouth.

<--- we've got bush!

  

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90. "Same thing most okps do"
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look at dan ackryte posts. All these contrarians wanna bash anything not mainstream as being gay or boho or not real. It's no different.

http://myspace.com/bambumusic

www.individualsole.com

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81. "This Thread = ...Because The Lesson Couldn't Hate On The Album"
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A LIEEEEEEEEE? © your local freshie.

  

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84. "no, this thread=The Lesson/media jumped the gun on Lupe=different"
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92. "You all need to pay attention. most of this thread is not hate, it is..."
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...OBJECTING. Something politics is based on, and if he's going to give an opinion on the matter, he better expect it to get analyzed. Most of the replies in here is calling him out for his sense of politics being flawed, and most everyone is not flat out hating on him, like with that ATCQ shit, but arguing against his position with their own facts, and trying to educate a brother who clearly has it twisted.

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85. "Nghs can't have opinions now?!"
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what's wrong whith him expressing his opinion when asked? wtf is wrong with ya'll?

  

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87. "see reply #60"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=1526287&mesg_id=1526287&page=#1526951

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93. "wheter one things it's right or wrong is irrelevant"
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it's still his opinion based on his truths.

this posts title says he shouldn't express his opinion

but it should say. i disagree with lupe siding with hillary

  

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94. "Demonstrably false truths"
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>it's still his opinion based on his truths.

You seriously don't see anything wrong with someone criticizing him for coming to his conclusion based on false or maybe simply a misunderstanding of information?


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98. "it's not that"
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i see a problem with someone criticizing his right to EXPRESS those "truths"

  

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101. "Telling someone it's best not to speak w/o proper knowledge"
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is not saying you don't have the right to express yourself. That's just sound advice.

  

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103. "people are gonna talk out of there ass anyway. we can't stop that."
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but i feel you.

  

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106. "Oh mos def"
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I'm just one of those cats who would say something anyway. I don't care if it's a rapper, a cat in the barbershop or someone on the street. If I heard anyone say that, I'd say something. Then again, I like to debate, so that's just my nature.

  

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108. "me too. you seem like a formidable opponent. *bows*"
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110. "lol. I think that's what draws all of us to these boards"
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That's what irks me about cats simply saying "you hatin." Most of us are here because we like the art of debating. In most cases, you can't do that shit in real life. When I do, the only response I get is, "*sigh* This nigga." lol.

  

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111. "that's why i can't talk to my family about movies"
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i get "where you movie at?"

or "this art school fool. you hate on everything now"

  

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112. "lol. my mom has banned me from picking movies"
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Her exact words, "You always pick that weird shit."

  

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114. "my family has come around on that tip"
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i can pick em. i just can't talk about them

  

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115. "Crazy thing is"
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my mom's has a master's and shit. So I thought she would appreciate more intellectually challenging shit, but she's like, "I wanna be entertained, not have my mind blown."

  

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96. "fact doesn't have versions though"
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he's basing his opinion on something that's wrong. Most aren't being mean-spirited in their replies. I called him childish, which I whole-heartedly believe, but I'm not hating. I'm just stating things as I see them. We weren't even talking about the album before someone said we were just hating on Lu. My stance has been the same from jump. The Cool is cool, as in lukewarm, and he's dead wrong on this issue.

  

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100. "unfortunately facts do have versions"
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we have all had an idea at some point we believed were based on facts only to learn that the info was twisted

don't get me wrong. i don't agree with Lupe.

  

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102. "if it can be changed then it's not fact"
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now interpretations of said facts can be different, but the core elements remain the same.

  

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104. "that's what i mean."
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fact's may be what's on the page, but peoples interpretations is what we have to deal with on a day to day basis

what somebody tells you is based on their interpretation of what someone else said which is based on the interpretation of the writer of an article they read.

  

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107. "gotcha!"
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semantics get tricky.

  

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109. "."
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double post

  

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124. "I'm trying to figure that shit out too"
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I feel like I missed something

  

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120. "What does Ja Rule think about this? Where's JA!? (c) Dave Chappelle"
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I like Lupe's music.

(post-comedian correction)

  

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121. "RE: What does Ja Rule think about this? (c) Chris Rock"
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that was Dave not CR...

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126. "Good I... Rock mentioned Ja in a diff. joke relating to Pac."
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Eye mixed them up.

  

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127. "who the fuck cares what ja rule thinks at a time like this!!!!!"
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...man, dave really needs to come with a new stand up special ..one of the few cats i can watch over and over and always laugh my ass off

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129. "yeah, I know.. did you ever see this? Dave in London 2007."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3CJ_3JdgAg

  

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130. "^^^The reason Dave quit Chappelle Show"
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141. "i'm a fan of his stand up more than his cable show, mr wisenheimer..."
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145. "RE: ^^Kept saying &quot;Im Rick James, Bitch&quot; up until spring of 07"
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n/m

  

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150. "^^^ buys weed from the baby Dave met in baltimore"
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159. "RE: ^^^ The white kid who wore an Africa medallion in '93"
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He also wore an X hat to his Christmas dinner to appear "edgy".

  

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164. "you two jerks ruined a pretty good post, proud of yourselves?"
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165. "RE: you two jerks ruined a pretty good post, proud of yourselves?"
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These attack/defend Lupe posts have NEVER been good.

  

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166. "lol@ ruining a post in the lesson..."
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LES
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122. "y'all listen to rappers for their political opinions?"
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if i had a dollar for everytime a rapper said some dumb shit around election time i'd be cakin.

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dEs
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123. "half right, I'm not voting either, but Hillary is a warhawk on Iran TOO"
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in fact she tries to "out do" Obama in threatening to bomb Iran, etc.
every chance she gets

they're both fighting to see who can be the most pro-Israel, and appear
the "toughest" on the Middle East.....

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dEs
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125. "oh F*CK THAT EDITORS NOTE!!! (................."
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what THEE f*ck??

it's completely misleading

prime example,

in the lead up to the Iraq war, what did Bush say?

did he say, I want to bomb Iraq, I want to invade Iraq?

NO!

he hid behind the excuse of supposed "weapons of mass destruction"

he even gave Saddam, what like 48 hours or so, to cede control of the
country.........

Bush went to the UN (for show)

he got allies (only a few, and a lot of weak states)

hell he had "the good guy" Colin Powell stuntin, lying about Iraq
having mobile chemical weapons labs and sh*t

does some of that sound familiar?

"we" can't "allow" Iran to have nuclear weapons? hmmmm???

the US has gone before the UN and the International Atomic Energy
Agency to pursue a fake ass "diplomatic" approach, etc.

you can apply that same punk ass "editor's note" to Bush's approach
to Iraq.......... but would you??? hell no, cause it's obviously
bullsh*t

both Obama AND Clinton are on record as saying the US can not tolerate
a nuclear armed Iran, aka, they would use military force to stop Iran
from getting a nuclear bomb, sh*t is it that difficult to comprehend??

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154. "giving someone 48 hours to do something is warlike"
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the generic phrase 'we can't allow iran to have nuclear weapons' is a basic bipartisan beltway position that in no way suggests the speaker supports all-out imminent war. obama couples the assertion that he doesn't want iran to have nuclear weapons with demands for direct talks between the u.s. and iran. bush wasn't saying 'saddam, you have 48 hours to sit down and talk to me', he said you have two days to prove a negative (impossible) before the bombs fall, i.e. the bombs will fall no matter what you do (b/c you can't definitively prove you don't have something within a country's borders in two days).
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131. "Why Do We Care about Lupe's Politics again?"
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just curious?

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132. "^^^ what i came here to say"
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134. "**THREAD OVER**"
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135. "I swore he was rocking his faith and beliefs on his sleeve"
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On his albums.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

  

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143. "RE: I swore he was rocking his faith and beliefs on his sleeve"
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>On his albums.
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>Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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nah, you right.

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136. "RE: SMH, when will Lupe Fiasco learn not to speak in public? [Swoops]"
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Alot of people might not agree with what he said but he made some valid points especially about the electoral college its an outdated system that needs to be removed completely I think that the election in 2000 showed that. But I agree that Obama might not be ready but Im not sure about Hillary either though shit I;d rather have Bill back and call it a day.

  

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140. "that's because people lack the understand as to why the electoral colleg..."
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one- to get rid of it means to amend the constitution, because it's unconstitutional for INDIVIDUAL people to vote for a president. that's why the 12th amendment was made as a loophole.

why it's unconstitutional? because our population isn't equal in density. and every state isn't equal in density. we may have the majority of the population living on the east coast, but they don't speak for middle america, nor does middle america speaks for the west coast or alaska or hawaii.

and as for individual states, something like NYC with their 11-13 million people ARE NOT the respresentation of the STATE OF NY, regardless if that small area make the majority of the population.

that's why electors are there..to represent those respective areas within that state.

it's ALSO the reason why it IS imparitive for people not just to get involve in voting every 4 years, but throughout...learn how this process works...these electors AREN'T picked, but VOTED for...our influence DOES matter...

the PROBLEM which LUPE proven so well that we are misinformed...and misinformation will ALWAYS going to hold us back...

  

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137. "dont agree about not voting but hes entitled to his opinions"
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dont see whats so bad about this. people are just trying to find fault with him for something.

  

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139. "RE: dont agree about not voting but hes entitled to his opinions"
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Don't see what his purpose was on callin Lu out...so what if Lu wants Hilary to win...HES NOT VOTING AND DOESN'T VOTE! Let the man do him...everytime he says something SOMEONE has to come out and say something and its annoying me lol...If he wants to support Hilary for whatever reason he so chooses then FUCK IT! LET HIM DO HIM!

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144. "with that login, you should recuse yourself from this convo n/m"
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147. "Lu, dont be an idiot."
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they're ALL fucked up

  

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152. "i'll tell you what you should do"
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joker: (to rachel) a little fight in you....i like that

batman: then you're gonna love me

  

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158. "I'm beginning to think ya'll do like Lupe."
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162. "'Hold on but we have Ja-Rule on the line""
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...

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167. "this is how you post ^^^^"
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that bit is hilarious

  

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