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"What y’all think of Insecure last night?"


          

  

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very curious about the road their going to take us down
Apr 13th 2020
1
Pop the tag!!! Lmao
Apr 13th 2020
2
got you a fan, huh?
Apr 13th 2020
3
I am a Yvonne Orji stan and I love her character Molly, yeah she's all.....
Apr 13th 2020
4
kinda lame
Apr 13th 2020
5
great so stay out the post then.
May 03rd 2020
129
its washed now
Apr 13th 2020
6
bye.
May 03rd 2020
130
I want to get into this again
Apr 13th 2020
7
yeah
Apr 13th 2020
8
Pretty sure the same thing was said about Atlanta
Apr 13th 2020
9
      but... Atlanta is brilliant
Apr 14th 2020
10
           right the first episode back was Alligator Man
Apr 14th 2020
11
           you NEVER know what to expect on Atlanta
Apr 14th 2020
16
           2nd season of Atlanta was mostly trash
Apr 15th 2020
20
           while it’s a great show people also complained
Apr 15th 2020
21
                there were only 2 eps in S2 i thought were kinda weak
Apr 15th 2020
24
Yo...I was shocked when I saw Paula Jai Parker
Apr 14th 2020
12
Friday was released 25 years ago...
Apr 14th 2020
13
How old were you when Friday came out?
Apr 15th 2020
18
I was 14 but I don't think of Friday when I see her.
Apr 16th 2020
26
      Yeah.. GOTB was 24 years ago.
May 08th 2020
183
She looked good. Age appropriate for the role she is playing. She was
Apr 16th 2020
31
The show looked visually very pretty. I liked it but I'm old and washed...
Apr 14th 2020
14
RE: The show looked visually very pretty. I liked it but I'm old and wa...
Apr 14th 2020
15
This ain’t Fresh Prince... you want the timeline to jump years ahead?
Apr 15th 2020
19
I do think shows that go off air for 1+ year plus should consider time j...
Apr 16th 2020
28
I'm 33. It's hard out here
Apr 15th 2020
23
And see that’s what’s going on in Tiffany’s world. But we don’t ...
Apr 16th 2020
32
just as great as ever. This show hasn’t let me down yet. Unlike
Apr 14th 2020
17
I think Tiffany and Kelly are cool where they are, its a 30 minute show....
Apr 15th 2020
22
Yeah and issa is adamant about leaving it at 30 min, which I agree with
Apr 16th 2020
30
      I think they are doing 10 episodes this this time...
Apr 16th 2020
33
           Oh ok good. And they are billed as main cast, so I’d like to see
Apr 17th 2020
40
Westworld disappeared up its own ass lol
Apr 16th 2020
27
      lmao. Smh basically
Apr 16th 2020
29
Molly is a trash ass friend.
Apr 16th 2020
25
You think it’s the gig?
Apr 17th 2020
34
yeah but at some point you gotta grow up and move on.
Apr 17th 2020
38
      there's the fact that Molly actually KNOWS Issa and she's notorious..
Apr 17th 2020
41
      Promo ain’t making no damn sense.. lol
Apr 18th 2020
43
      you would be cool with a dude dating your ex of 5 years? FOH
Apr 18th 2020
42
           yup. we exes for a reason.
Apr 20th 2020
59
                y’all think it’s maturity. It’s simp shit.
Apr 20th 2020
67
                     men are so insecure.
Apr 20th 2020
68
                          I know it happens
Apr 20th 2020
70
                               i guess we just see it differently
Apr 20th 2020
71
                                    Yeah. I think you changed your tone a bit
Apr 21st 2020
72
Molly is a truth teller and Issa needs her in her life.
Apr 17th 2020
36
i don’t think that’s what happened there with molly.
Apr 17th 2020
39
      Yup. The timing of Molly is the problem most of the time
Apr 18th 2020
44
Solid episode, I had many chuckles
Apr 17th 2020
35
always
Apr 17th 2020
37
s4 ep2: molly molly molly smh
Apr 19th 2020
45
The Condola shit is getting messy already, I feel like Lawrence was...
Apr 19th 2020
46
Lawrence was out of line and knew oh. Hence the creeping around
Apr 20th 2020
48
Bottom line between Condola, Issa & Lawrence, I think someone is going.....
Apr 20th 2020
52
Not sure how Condela can trust Issa
Apr 20th 2020
50
it's called maturity and not owning anyone
Apr 20th 2020
56
      WE ><
Apr 20th 2020
60
      Well if that’s the case, should be zero issue with Lawrence dating C
Apr 20th 2020
63
      That’s not maturity... that’s called being a simp
Apr 20th 2020
65
           I dont care what my exes are up to
Apr 21st 2020
83
                I missed this post. Would you befriend him and kick it after work?
May 08th 2020
179
                     if we had a good rapport, sure
May 08th 2020
181
                          Yeah... that not normal.
May 11th 2020
243
                               or...I dont care what my exes are up to after we're done
May 18th 2020
269
I'm cool with Lawrence taking it to Issa
Apr 20th 2020
51
      if you have an issue with your current gf talking to your ex you take...
Apr 20th 2020
53
      some of takes are odd. I guess people like being messy
Apr 21st 2020
75
      nah, you bring that up to the current situation.
Apr 21st 2020
76
           The real answer is he shouldn’t have brought that shit to any of
Apr 21st 2020
78
                #facts
Apr 23rd 2020
86
                     And real talk. Lawrence has the undisputed moral high ground
Apr 23rd 2020
89
                          right, I think sometimes we all forget the name of the show lol...
Apr 23rd 2020
91
Good episode--not feeling Issa re Molly though.
Apr 20th 2020
54
      100% to all of this. And yes I never consider the need to move
Apr 20th 2020
55
      #facts:
Apr 20th 2020
58
      RE: Good episode--not feeling Issa re Molly though.
Apr 20th 2020
69
E2: I didn't see much wrong w Molly's approach tbh
Apr 19th 2020
47
her desire and sentiment weren’t unfair but her delivery and
Apr 20th 2020
49
I agree, but
Apr 26th 2020
95
      I agree with this:
Apr 26th 2020
100
They been at it for a minute
Apr 20th 2020
57
That's real
Apr 26th 2020
96
Naw yo, Molly's approach was all the way wrong.
Apr 21st 2020
79
      ^^^
Apr 21st 2020
82
      I was more so defending her intent than her approach
Apr 26th 2020
97
Saw this point being made on a different forum & I ain't mad:
Apr 20th 2020
61
i don’t know about no growth but issa is a mess, a mess in
Apr 20th 2020
62
Now tell me that ain’t insecure... lol
Apr 20th 2020
66
Issa character is a bird.
Apr 21st 2020
73
also RE molly and Andrew: I could see her getting everything she
Apr 20th 2020
64
yeah I definitely see Molly fucking Torian at some point lol
Apr 21st 2020
74
Did Molly get Crazier?
Apr 21st 2020
77
It’s called acting?
Apr 21st 2020
80
You missed my point. Did her character get crazier or was she always li...
Apr 22nd 2020
84
      Why did she do that was so crazy?
Apr 22nd 2020
85
           Basically...
Apr 23rd 2020
87
                When you don’t want to be around someone
Apr 23rd 2020
88
She always had that crazy eye
Apr 21st 2020
81
Molly’s not crazy. She’s not good with processing her emotions
Apr 23rd 2020
90
E3: Lowkey Thankful. Thoughts?
Apr 26th 2020
92
Meh.
Apr 26th 2020
93
I really feel like Lawrence was down and just wanted to feel better
Apr 27th 2020
105
Lawrence and Condola are both messy af, going back to last episode...
Apr 26th 2020
94
I’ve always had issues with the writers room on this show.
Apr 26th 2020
98
Although sketchy in spots overall I have like the writing...
Apr 26th 2020
99
      feels like GOT last season...
Apr 27th 2020
101
      right...
Apr 27th 2020
102
      To be fair, as far as the timing/rushed feeling
Apr 27th 2020
109
Yeah considering how sprung Lawrence is on condola him
Apr 27th 2020
106
niggaz is nitpicky as fuck in here
Apr 27th 2020
103
right? the typical OKP must be levitating over everyone else...
Apr 28th 2020
114
      We can’t talk about the show?
Apr 28th 2020
119
      lol!
Apr 28th 2020
121
      Damn you really don’t know how to discuss stuff do you?
Apr 28th 2020
122
           He doesn’t even see the playery of it all
Apr 28th 2020
125
           HOW BOUT "NO."
Apr 28th 2020
127
           this nigga likening niggaz to mods
May 08th 2020
180
The first 10 minutes were meh, but the ep got good after that!
Apr 27th 2020
104
      Right I thought that was crazy too...
Apr 27th 2020
107
           and that’s it. He is really into condola and doing 5 much. That’s pa...
Apr 27th 2020
108
                damn you're right I hadn't really thought of that angle...
Apr 28th 2020
113
this show gives me a panic attack feeling after each ep.
Apr 28th 2020
110
You sure it’s the show?
Apr 28th 2020
111
sign of a good show. I get anxiety watching ozark and zerozerozero lol
Apr 28th 2020
112
This season could be about friends just growing apart.
Apr 28th 2020
115
When your friends aren’t giving you what you need..
Apr 28th 2020
116
This is totally fair:
Apr 28th 2020
117
I Agree with you on this:
Apr 28th 2020
118
You are right.
Apr 28th 2020
120
      Yeah he gave her the green light to fully embrace what she was
Apr 28th 2020
123
I feel like this is different for men and women...
Apr 28th 2020
126
"You dress like a swap-meet mannequin"
Apr 28th 2020
124
Renewed for S5!
May 01st 2020
128
E4: Lowkey Losin’ It. Thoughts?
May 03rd 2020
131
#TeamMolly
May 03rd 2020
132
pretty much agree with everything...
May 03rd 2020
133
Yeah I get annoyed with Issa the Apartment Manager...
May 03rd 2020
134
I’m #TeamMolly too overall but she coulda have asked and tried
May 05th 2020
157
Also why didn’t she call Daniel to headline as the DJ?
May 03rd 2020
135
From Schoolboy Q to Rando Daniel
May 04th 2020
144
Eh if she was wasting her time calling a friend to see if their kid
May 04th 2020
145
      Rando Daniel as headliner. Yep. I'm going to that block party.
May 04th 2020
146
      That was just for the joke.. lol
May 04th 2020
148
Well she certainly could have reached out him for his industry
May 05th 2020
156
I wish Molly and Issa would just have THE talk already
May 03rd 2020
136
Their friendship has been a mess since season 1 lol
May 04th 2020
137
Lol fair point nm
May 04th 2020
138
Molly’s been trying but issa keeps playing her to the left
May 05th 2020
158
Issa is at her best in the scenes by herself
May 04th 2020
139
the show requires multiple viewings to catch small details
May 04th 2020
143
RE: the show requires multiple viewings to catch small details
May 05th 2020
159
Wimen be loving Drama
May 05th 2020
150
So refreshing to be in a molly safe space, all my friends think she is
May 05th 2020
160
RE: E4: Lowkey Losin’ It. Thoughts?
May 05th 2020
161
      I for one would be ok with Lawrence going his own way after this
May 05th 2020
162
i was dying that Derek was espousing my theory on girl dads.
May 04th 2020
140
Bruh.. lmao.
May 04th 2020
141
That fingerfuck line was really gross and super uncalled for.
May 04th 2020
142
ur right and he's right, lol.
May 04th 2020
147
You don't have brothers do you?
May 05th 2020
149
      That joke was strictly for men with daughters
May 05th 2020
151
      To a tee, all my worst grimiest friends have daughter.
May 05th 2020
152
           Nas has a line about it.
May 05th 2020
153
      I have 1 brother but it doesn’t matter.
May 05th 2020
154
           its in line with the rest of the shows comedy.
May 05th 2020
155
           You got a glimpse into how guys talk when there are no women around
May 07th 2020
164
                What’s up with your insistence on trying to be right?
May 07th 2020
168
                     for the record I agree with you, when he said that I was like "wtf"...
May 07th 2020
172
                          I read an interview recently with two of the Insecure writers...
May 07th 2020
173
                          Why you acting like you aren't trying to be just as right?
May 08th 2020
182
                          it’s a more graphic “keep my daughter off the stripper pole”
May 08th 2020
184
                          Yeah the sentiment I’m sure is common but giving the graphic example
May 07th 2020
176
aight but then who is raising these ain't-shit boys?
May 08th 2020
188
How about when Molly said to old boy, "You are my priority".
May 07th 2020
163
Goodness. Telling a mate "You are my priority" is controversial now?
May 07th 2020
165
Not controversial. I just don't rock like that.
May 07th 2020
167
      Making your SO a priority isn’t new to dating
May 07th 2020
169
I don’t think she meant over her career
May 07th 2020
166
That's the trade off.
May 07th 2020
170
      Basically
May 07th 2020
171
           when he came over and she jumped all over him and they got in...
May 07th 2020
174
                he got some rest *and* some pussy. She definitely didnt prioritize
May 07th 2020
175
                     Right. If that didn't make you happy..
May 07th 2020
177
                          Fuck that, she knew she wanted to work, she could’ve told him...
May 08th 2020
190
                               Imagine if you cancelled plans that night too?
May 09th 2020
193
Nope. That's my minimum expectation
May 08th 2020
186
      ^^^
May 08th 2020
187
      yup.
May 09th 2020
192
Listening to Insecure playlist on Spotify...
May 07th 2020
178
music supervisors (Kier Lehman and Issa) be killing it for sure.
May 08th 2020
185
My wife has NEVER seen Awkward Black Girl
May 08th 2020
189
I’d be scared to watch it. I used to love ABG, but besides a few
May 08th 2020
191
Wtf did you expect? It’s a 10y/o web series produced on a college...
May 09th 2020
194
      Lmao
May 09th 2020
195
E5: Lowkey Movin’ On. Thoughts?
May 10th 2020
196
My thoughts:
May 10th 2020
198
RE: My thoughts:
May 11th 2020
200
I think there's plenty of blame to go around between Issa and Molly.
May 11th 2020
207
Everything is bad lol
May 11th 2020
237
E5: Lowkey Movin' On thoughts...
May 10th 2020
197
I have a show and by any means necessary I’m getting a headliner.
May 11th 2020
199
also, Issa exhausted EVERY outlet on her own.
May 11th 2020
201
      fuck that Issa is a user and was basically "done" with Molly before...
May 11th 2020
202
      Come to think of it.. Issa has been using everyone
May 11th 2020
204
      yall regularly come on here being loud and wrong
May 11th 2020
213
           right? i've had plenty of friends who may not have it all together...
May 11th 2020
223
           if you watch the "Wine Down" after the show Issa herself actually...
May 11th 2020
226
           some people root hard of Issa’s character
May 11th 2020
242
           Says.... you?
May 11th 2020
238
      I could see if Andrew put Issa on blast
May 11th 2020
203
      Exactly...
May 11th 2020
209
           I don't even think she was thinking that far ahead.
May 11th 2020
211
           Yup. I would’ve done the same thing.
May 11th 2020
214
                like I said either way it shows how much you value the friendship...
May 11th 2020
216
                     I guess. But the point was made below
May 11th 2020
218
                          has either of those situations changed?
May 11th 2020
221
                               I’m sure she felt rich as fuck before Molly popped the bubble
May 12th 2020
246
                                    Issa and Molly have been friends for 15+ years...
May 12th 2020
247
                                         You right.. but if this is the first time in 15 years that Issa has a pa...
May 12th 2020
248
                                              The blowup between Issa & Molly has been brewing since S1, E1...
May 12th 2020
253
      Sounds like you don't know how friendships work.
May 11th 2020
205
           never did i absolve Issa of any fault in this whole mess.
May 11th 2020
206
                Where are you getting this idea she is hating on her creative success?
May 11th 2020
210
                     because i know people just like her.
May 11th 2020
220
                          yeah. I think there is some projection going on with this one
May 11th 2020
229
                          Molly doesn't want her to fail, she even offered Andrew's
May 11th 2020
232
                               i hear you, but people want a lot of things until they actually get them...
May 11th 2020
236
                                    yeah, I'm not seeing the hating on her success or passion.
May 12th 2020
252
I think Molly is 100% wrong
May 11th 2020
208
      Why does it matter than Issa is the reason Molly met Andrew?
May 11th 2020
212
           Because she had a connection to him independent of Molly
May 11th 2020
215
                Gotcha.. I see your point and agree.
May 11th 2020
217
                that's exactly what she did lol...
May 11th 2020
219
                     You have to feel a certain way about relationships to have this opinion
May 11th 2020
222
                          RE: You have to feel a certain way about relationships to have this opin...
May 11th 2020
224
                          you do know Issa Dee is not real right?
May 11th 2020
225
                          Issa says some of the same things about her character on the show lol...
May 11th 2020
227
                               see, that's why i don't watch stuff like that.
May 11th 2020
230
                                    I know there was a longer break between seasons 3 & 4 but I feel like...
May 11th 2020
245
                          Agreed.
May 11th 2020
228
                          A successful block party of that scale can lead to a lot of opportunitie...
May 11th 2020
231
                               pretty much.
May 11th 2020
234
                               pretty much to all of this
May 13th 2020
258
                          I'm a woman,but I think I agree. I was appalled by Molly's reaction tbh.
May 11th 2020
233
                               The timing was all types of fucked up on Molly’s part
May 11th 2020
235
                               I don't disagree with you and I definitely think Molly overreacted...
May 11th 2020
239
                               .
May 11th 2020
240
Molly stay the drama queen.
May 11th 2020
241
Either Andrew didn’t think anything of it
May 11th 2020
244
Also for the record Issa used Nathan too, she wasn’t interested in...
May 12th 2020
249
do you stay in touch with all your hook ups that end badly/weirdly?
May 12th 2020
250
Ehh... didn’t Nathan ghost her?
May 12th 2020
251
He did, then they had discussed it and she decided that she didn’t...
May 12th 2020
254
      IG stalking sounds much worse than it is..
May 12th 2020
256
Devil's advocate: if something pops off between them now
May 12th 2020
255
      Yeah, I don’t think that’s using someone but I can see Issa
May 13th 2020
257
           Ha! Knowing this show, I wouldn't be surprised
May 20th 2020
286
E6: Lowkey Done. Thoughts?
May 17th 2020
259
My thoughts:
May 17th 2020
260
I think she felt guilty that’s why she was on the good samaritan tour....
May 17th 2020
261
Man.. she immediately asked Nathan if he felt used.
May 18th 2020
264
      right and she definitely used Daniel, its a pattern with her.
May 18th 2020
265
           Which is why her good deeds turned to shit
May 18th 2020
268
This Ep was hilarious.
May 18th 2020
263
it was literally the next day
May 18th 2020
270
      Uh there were no gunshots.
May 19th 2020
273
           I thought I heard a gunshot but it could’ve been a vendor
May 19th 2020
275
RE: E6: Lowkey Done. Thoughts?
May 21st 2020
290
i really enjoyed this one
May 17th 2020
262
I agree it felt like a filler episode
May 18th 2020
266
I think this ep was to show Issa needs her friends
May 18th 2020
267
Def a filler ep... but I loved the dine-n-dash reveal.
May 19th 2020
274
O(ur) bougie is showing, but I agree, I didn’t by that either
May 24th 2020
294
The end of episode 6 was poetic
May 18th 2020
271
I wonder how much this mirrors her real life?
May 19th 2020
272
so Issa is "successful" now after 1 block party she barely pulled up?
May 19th 2020
276
      It's kind of strange because it wasn't clear the stakes from the block p...
May 19th 2020
277
      A successful show builds momentum.
May 19th 2020
282
      The "Block Party" is symbolic for Awkward Black Girl
May 21st 2020
291
      yes, she's successful
May 19th 2020
278
      You definitely should not be measuring success by that.
May 19th 2020
279
      Yeah for sure she ain’t successful.
May 19th 2020
280
      Didn’t Condola ghost her tho?
May 19th 2020
283
      She thru a successful event that helped her find direction
May 24th 2020
297
      The Block party was successful.
May 19th 2020
281
           I know plenty of hot promoters that are broke as hell especially...
May 20th 2020
284
                As a former promoter I unfortunately know first hand
May 20th 2020
285
that was a good episode
May 20th 2020
287
I laughed out loud A LOT! George was classic
May 20th 2020
288
      George is somebody's daddy lol
May 21st 2020
289
      Yes the whole ep 6 except for when the girls did her dirty had me
May 24th 2020
301
E7: Lowkey Trippin’. Thoughts?
May 24th 2020
292
My thoughts:
May 24th 2020
293
I mean this show seems driven by being authentic and also funny
May 24th 2020
303
Kim fields was a great cameo lol.
May 24th 2020
304
Oh and generally never a good idea to say FU to ur SO’s fam upon
May 24th 2020
306
It’s ep 7
May 24th 2020
295
My bad—thanks!
May 24th 2020
302
Jay Ellis directed this ep. dope. It was good and cringy. I hate
May 24th 2020
300
This ep made me miss travel so much 😩😩
May 24th 2020
305
“That bitch ran away from me like I was an actual job!” I LOVE MOLLY...
May 24th 2020
309
      That line was hilarious.
May 25th 2020
311
      In a sense, Molly ran away from Issa too.
May 25th 2020
312
           This is a reach. Molly chose not to chase after her but she was
May 25th 2020
313
                Eh, I disagree. Molly saw her first.
May 25th 2020
315
                Agreed.
May 25th 2020
316
Neither ep 6 or ep 7 was filler to me. And ep 6 was hilarious.
May 24th 2020
296
And Issa is a user but we all are to an extent. That’s why
May 24th 2020
298
And I love Wendy Raquel but I’m not seeing her as Issa and ahmal’s
May 24th 2020
299
I got an issue with the towel girl scene:
May 24th 2020
307
I think that’s part of the point. Becuz we can sometime overreact
May 24th 2020
308
a possible explanation is she "knew" the white guests...
May 25th 2020
310
F that towel girl
May 25th 2020
314
That would make the interaction a whole lot less interesting.
May 26th 2020
317
      Yeah I said above if you're going to be in an interracial relationship.....
May 26th 2020
318
      That was my biggest concern and reason for not pursuing
May 26th 2020
320
      His brother was an asshole
May 26th 2020
319
      RE: His brother was an asshole
May 26th 2020
321
      All of this. And the brother was being a dick. He either is contrary
May 26th 2020
322
           I agree with all this and I have friends on both sides of this...
May 26th 2020
323
           Molly dark skin plays a big part in this interaction with his family.
May 26th 2020
324
           Did the wife do it too? She seemed to have Molly's back...until Molly
May 26th 2020
325
           ^^^
May 26th 2020
327
           The wife was faultless imo. I think she started turning against
May 26th 2020
326
                Fuck that.. when I’m in an argument don’t speak around me in
May 26th 2020
328
                     The funny thing is Andrew was the one not speaking English first in
May 26th 2020
329
                     Molly wasn’t wrong. Defend me in English dammit. LOL.
May 27th 2020
346
                     I agree but I think I need to watch it again
May 26th 2020
330
                     Yeah, speaking another language in an argument can come off as mad
May 26th 2020
332
           RE: All of this. And the brother was being a dick. He either is contrary...
May 26th 2020
334
                Ok.
May 26th 2020
342
I'm a little fed up with the White Knight-ness of Andrew
May 26th 2020
331
Oh I fully expecting that dude to bail.
May 26th 2020
333
agreed
May 26th 2020
335
      They’re believable to me but I do think that blow up was a turning
May 26th 2020
336
      to me it is funny how quickly he flipped from walking out on her for...
May 26th 2020
338
      Quote below.. it’s bad.
May 27th 2020
347
           yikes
May 27th 2020
348
                you really need to real the whole section of her book that's from
May 27th 2020
350
                     Yeah that quote by itself is way out of context but Issa does seem to...
May 27th 2020
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Ppl who dismiss Molly as a drama queen or Issa as a hapless user
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right I feel like people need to go back and watch from season 1 because...
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^^^^^
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I went back and re-watched ep7 and Andrew's brother and his wife were...
May 26th 2020
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I wish Andrew had handled his brother on the itinerary...
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Right he knows his brother is an asshole and knows Molly can go 0-100...
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Did his brother pay for the trip?
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wish a nigga would tell me 15 minutes... right after I get to the hotel
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Yeah I had a different but still similar situation...
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Also with everybody gassing up Issa would she have anything without...
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No but there’s skill and agency with getting the right people around
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      I agree and I’ve been so bored during the “quarantine” I went back...
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           I need to go back seasons 1&2. And yes molly made the right! Call
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           I agree with all of this^^^
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           People are rooting for Issa because she’s a mess
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                you're right and after all she is the star of the show plus I think we.....
May 29th 2020
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Starting my rewatch ☺️☺️. This the escape I need right now
May 29th 2020
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Damn Lawrence was a bum!
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      But he had his savings and obviously he was contributing something...
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*Deep sigh* at tonight’s ep.
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Rence-dawg plotted that shit from the beginning lol
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      Both of them were in on it
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           Right with change of clothes she pulled out to wear home she must’ve.....
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                Lol. I think she just bought the sweater at the art fair.
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                     Yeah.. I recognized the shirt from the art festival.
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DAAAAAMN!!!
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As always, Insecure fucks up in the last 5 minutes.
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They both knew what they wanted to do, you don’t invite a woman...
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This is why you don’t fake friendship with your ex’s new boo
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      LOL! Kudos for the petty. But yes where are all the it’s harmless
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      Condola ain’t got no grounds whatsoever to curse Issa out.
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      Issa was on some sneak shit! I bet if condola bumps into them
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      Ehh.. I think Condola can curse out Lawrence and Issa
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      #TEAMMOLLY!!!
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      It was weird when a few people said they were mature enough
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      you live in a completely bizarre world
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I mean how could that night not end in them fucking? That energy
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You can hate it, but that is exactly how it would have gone down.
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Plus what woman is going to volunteer to walk that far in heels lol
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      I died. I’m thinking she lived a block or two over then they show
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           I guess that’s considered close in LA?
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These seasons are too far apart because I be forgetting everything
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RE: These seasons are too far apart because I be forgetting everything
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I feel like ppl don’t get back with their exes that often. I’m hopin...
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If Nathan really has mental heath issues those type of things...
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I feel like they was foreshadowing it with Molly's parents
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I feel the opposite. A lot of people take breaks and get back together
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      yup.
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           RE: yup.
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                This:
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                     Most relationships play out like Issa and Lawrence’s
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Also a bingy yet relatively quick rewatch of the whole series is highly
Jun 01st 2020
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When Issa got to the door and turned around...
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She knew Condoleeza was on deck and had to shoot her shot lol
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      Condie Nast forgot the golden rule of Exs
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           If you have to babysit a nigga’s ex... you already lost
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                ^^^ yeah that’s too much work...and mess. Plenty of fish in the sea
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                     Damn, the plot twist of all plot twist would be...
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                          OmG. That would send me.
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E9: Lowkey Trying. Thoughts?
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The dreamer in me would like to think that
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My thoughts:
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I basically agree with everything you said which is scary lol
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Ok now *this* was a filler episode. Nothing fundamentally changed
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Issa is messy af
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told y'all molly is trash.
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Wrong! - Charlie Murphy
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Trump be in the bunker watching Insecure lmaoooo
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Do u want to be in a relationship or do u want to be right?
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been saying molly is trash. *AIRHORNS* for this reply.
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If you are saying anyone is trash. You really don’t get this show
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      Word. Even though I give Issa grief even I know she isn’t “trash”.
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      ^^^ppl looking forward fairy tale characters. A princess and a wicked
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      oh geez.
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miserable or prideful?
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      Tsk tsk, don’t u know it’s easier to vilify Molly and dismiss her as...
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      right Molly had tried to talk to Issa multiple times this season...
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           Molly getting that dark skin hate
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                right, people ignore that Issa Rae created the show about Issa Dee...
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                Yeah there’s something amiss with that. I understand Issa is the star
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                     People hate Molly NOW because she is successful and dark skin?
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                          U lost me at Villainous. Seriously. I’m not interested in reading abou...
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                               You don't think she has been the bad guy for like 3 episodes straight?
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                                    Wrong! - Charlie Murphy
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                                         Exactly, Molly definitely overreacted at the block party but she wasnt.....
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      I agree with this:
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           Yup. Alladis
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I'm really on the fence about thinking Molly has NPD
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They all have shit going on...
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she aint have no damn NPD
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Molly got a new man and got Brand New AF
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You ever dated outside your race?
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Have not seriously dated outside the race.
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      this is it. this has always been her problem
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      Yeah. I agree she is stuck in her ways
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      Fuck Andrew’s brother he’s an asshole. Maybe down the line Molly...
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           This is why I think the Molly hate isn’t legit
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I’ll sift thru ur usual molly hate and agree with Andrew dumping her
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      welp
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           Yeah I wasn’t mad at how it was executed. Like u said, felt true to
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i'm just waiting for them
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Alot of women's close friendships have the look and feel of
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      Reminds me of White Man Can’t Jump
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      There was a discussion recently...
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And while the Molly Wop continues, what's up with the "OK?" at the end?
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So y’all shook like me waiting on the first post lol
Jun 14th 2020
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so partner issues is what brings them back together....smh
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      RE: so partner issues is what brings them back together....smh
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           RE: so partner issues is what brings them back together....smh
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           On point.
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fuck you, fuck you, thank you for your service
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That shit was so jarring for this moment. I’m sure the writers and
Jun 15th 2020
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Yeah that scene made me hella uncomfortable
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Shit had me rolling. Cop saw the headline flash before his eyes.
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"Chicken's coming home to roost never mad me sad..."
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can we please kill this outdated racist trope though?
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it’s the truth, sorry.
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      RE: it’s the truth, sorry.
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      RE: it’s the truth, sorry.
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           Aside from all that, its like we were presented with 2 different Andrews...
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                You have a strange perception of things
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      Smh
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He was looking for a way out 2 months before they got back together?
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      Lawrence just wanted to hit again, he never wanted to be in another...
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           Haven’t watched yet.
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                My wrap up
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I’m sorry but fuck Andrew. I can’t stand someone not willing to go t...
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RE: I’m sorry but fuck Andrew. I can’t stand someone not willing to ...
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Very true and lol. Yes I read torian as an alpha from work interactions
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Molly spent the entire season being passive aggressive with Issa
Jun 16th 2020
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the 'ending' was already leaked
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Basically. Lawrence gone head and get that spinoff bruh. Hbo
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      streets need that Lawrence spinoff
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           i would be down for that
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           that would be so good
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                lmao
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S4, ep 10. I guess I wanted cliffhanger teas, I was underwhelmed lol
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See y’all ungrateful negroes gonna make them go back to 8 episodes lol...
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      Lol. Hey, if u gonna give me fluff might as well go back to 8 eps
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the ending was good but also a little sloppy and rushed
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Issa said on the wine down that for the character it’s really crushing...
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I feel like that night Condola knew Lawrence was out with Issa...
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there was hella foreshadowing with andrew
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Let the record show I was 100 % team Andrew until last nite. He
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but that's all it was though...
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I mean they seemed to have a real connection. He let himself get
Jun 15th 2020
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      they used to have witty banter but initially when she tried to get close...
Jun 15th 2020
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RE: Let the record show I was 100 % team Andrew until last nite. He
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      Andrew isn’t over the way Molly treated his brother
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      His brother was an asshole that thought he could buy his way out of...
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      !!!!! I hate this shit too
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      Fuck Andrew, he didn’t start having issues until Molly wanted to be...
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My thoughts on the finale:
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Feels like I’m watching The Game with this last episode
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      I feel like the Tiffany/Derek thing was setup the entire series but...
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           Just seemed like an odd place for that clip
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                I kind of feel like that was intentional...
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                     Good point
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Game is the game
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Lawrence was never going to be over Daniel
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      Based on their convo at the table in E8
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           It will always be there
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           Definitely
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                It sounded like his mouth moved to make the words that sound like
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                     It will always be in the back of his mind
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           based on reality, most men don’t get over something like that
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                Sounded to me like he was willing to move past it tho nm
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                     It will always be in the back of his mind.
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                          He will never get over that
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                               Everytime she comes home late or is not where she said she would be
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Next season: Condola’s Miscarriage
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Just finished binging the entire season in one day...
Jun 18th 2020
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I pretty much agree with everything, I never really rocked with Andrew.....
Jun 19th 2020
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Molly & Issa are some low key dramatic co-dependents
Jun 23rd 2020
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Truth had a good point about the PPD
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Whoa whoa whoa...when did everyone turn on Andrew?!
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yeah im flying thru the season rn and reading the post w/ it
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The only thing I don’t like about Andrew is how he keeps forcing his
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      I think he was really thinking long term.
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shamus
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1. "very curious about the road their going to take us down"
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in terms of showing the dissolution of Molly and Issa's relationship. I'm sure they'll have them making up in the future or on a future season. But still, I like this choice, as the ending of a old relationship is a common milestone of growing older. An unpacking of the incidents and longstanding dynamics that contribute to a friend-breakup is a good next step.

Other things:

While I don't really care about Lawrence, I like the choice of having Condola date him and having them deal with the discomfort of that because...real life.

I'm a fan of TSA bae and repping big bodies in sex scenes on tv.

I want things to work out with Andrew, but maybe losing him and losing Issa will finally be the catalysts for Molly to be serious about working on herself beyond working on her career.

I miss Nathan and wish more had been done with his mental health story line, but I get that we need to move on.

Her apartment is enormous.

I saw some reddit or Twitter posters complaining that they thought the ep was boring, but I enjoyed it just fine. It's a slice-of-life/coming-of-age show for late 20/early 30-somethings. We're reestablishing characters and story from the last season and showing small steps of Issa's growth. It did what it was supposed to do.


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2. "Pop the tag!!! Lmao"
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The Molly shit is getting tired and old. Can’t blame ole girl for telling her to go get it.

Nothing else to add besides TSA dude being hilarious.

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3. "got you a fan, huh?"
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that's wassup

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4. "I am a Yvonne Orji stan and I love her character Molly, yeah she's all....."
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fucked up but she's ride or die for Issa and the only person that tells Issa the truth.

The way last night's ep ended I was initially feeling like "that's it?" but really that is the nature of the the show, its a half hour and Issa has been adamant about it staying that way and i understand why

  

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Crash Bandacoot
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5. "kinda lame"
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insecure had one good season, the first. everything else is just variations of that sprinkled with a few guys, bird like bougie
behavior, and trendy music.

  

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Damali
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129. "great so stay out the post then."
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6. "its washed now"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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130. "bye."
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7. "I want to get into this again"
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just feels like teh show has gotten progressively worse though

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8. "yeah"
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i feel like location is the only thing that keeps me watching.

there's always a decent moment or two, but I'm pretty checked out on it mostly.

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9. "Pretty sure the same thing was said about Atlanta "
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after the first episode after a year off.

Give it time. It’s weird because I didn’t really like the show early on but I’m invested.

I will admit. Taking a year off for other projects definitely hurts momentum.

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10. "but... Atlanta is brilliant "
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and they've only done two seasons


who the hell said that lol

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BrooklynWHAT
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11. "right the first episode back was Alligator Man"
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Atlanta aint have a slipup yet

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Mynoriti
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16. "you NEVER know what to expect on Atlanta"
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it's so insanely creative, it's unfair to expect other shows to live up to its standard.

Insecure is feeling very rinse/repeat. I wasn't crazy about last season either. but i'll hang out a while to see if it gets more interesting.

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20. "2nd season of Atlanta was mostly trash"
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legsdiamond
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21. "while it’s a great show people also complained "
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about some of the episodes and where it was going at times.

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Mynoriti
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24. "there were only 2 eps in S2 i thought were kinda weak"
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the germantown one, and the Drake ep

the rest was fire.

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12. "Yo...I was shocked when I saw Paula Jai Parker"
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when did she age and become someones grandma?

unless...that was makeup.

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13. "Friday was released 25 years ago..."
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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18. "How old were you when Friday came out? "
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I’m just happy she got some work

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26. "I was 14 but I don't think of Friday when I see her. "
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I think about Get on the Bus, Dont be a Menace, etc

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legsdiamond
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183. "Yeah.. GOTB was 24 years ago. "
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She was prolly in her 30’s when it was filmed.

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blkprinceMD05
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31. "She looked good. Age appropriate for the role she is playing. She was"
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On Ray Donavan a few years back too

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stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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14. "The show looked visually very pretty. I liked it but I'm old and washed..."
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I don't have a lot of interest in watching a show about the dating lives of 35 year olds (for multiple seasons anyway). Not as exciting but characters do need to, at some point, start getting married, having kids, get divorced, have careers, etc.


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15. "RE: The show looked visually very pretty. I liked it but I'm old and wa..."
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>Not as exciting but characters do need to, at some point,
>start getting married, having kids, get divorced, have
>careers, etc.

but they do have people in almost all of those stages except getting divorced.

  

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19. "This ain’t Fresh Prince... you want the timeline to jump years ahead? "
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28. "I do think shows that go off air for 1+ year plus should consider time j..."
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or maybe consider not picking up exactly where they left off.

In fact, they did do a time jump. We jumped ahead to Isis not f'ing with Molly and we are getting the backstory now. Also jumped ahead to Isis having TSA dude without needing to fill in the gap on how they met.


Might not have worked with this storyline but they did do it to some extent in the premiere.
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23. "I'm 33. It's hard out here"
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>Not as exciting but characters do need to, at some point,
>start getting married, having kids, get divorced, have
>careers, etc.

Being on the receiving end of some of their bs is relatable at times, unfortunately

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32. "And see that’s what’s going on in Tiffany’s world. But we don’t ..."
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Any of that

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17. "just as great as ever. This show hasn’t let me down yet. Unlike "
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Westworld which completely shit the bed last ep. sigh.

But im really excited about this season of insecure. Great premiere ep. hopefully molly gets out of her own way at some point this season. But issa is mess tho still, but at least she’s trying

Tiffany and kelly are so relegated to bit parts, I’d like to see more of them. The condola “love” triangle is good plot for this season and a way to keep jay Ellis on the show lol

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22. "I think Tiffany and Kelly are cool where they are, its a 30 minute show...."
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they can only do so much. The show is pretty much centered around Issa, Molly & Lawrence and they briefly gave Daniel some of Lawrence's screen time.

  

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30. "Yeah and issa is adamant about leaving it at 30 min, which I agree with"
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I say they go to ten ep seasons tho. I just feel like kelly is like almost a gimmick now, like let’s seeing her dating life a *bit* more. Tiffany is just like a vehicle to move the plot along, besides the few times they show her real emotion and strain and distance from her friends.

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33. "I think they are doing 10 episodes this this time..."
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>I say they go to ten ep seasons tho. I just feel like kelly
>is like almost a gimmick now, like let’s seeing her dating
>life a *bit* more. Tiffany is just like a vehicle to move the
>plot along, besides the few times they show her real emotion
>and strain and distance from her friends.

they are what they are, "supporting cast"

  

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40. "Oh ok good. And they are billed as main cast, so I’d like to see "
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Them get main cast storylines

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27. "Westworld disappeared up its own ass lol "
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29. "lmao. Smh basically"
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25. "Molly is a trash ass friend."
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I know so many people like her.

They work regular ass jobs but know or are freiends with a lot of creatives.

Eventually, their regular ass job wears them down and they really hate it but they are scared to step out of the box (but they really want to, like their friends) or they don't wanna risk losing the safe money, so when their creative friends finally start doing some good shit, they start hating because they really hate their situation and are jealous that they can't be doing what their friends are doing.

I've seen it hundreds of times.

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34. "You think it’s the gig? "
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I think it’s the relationships.

Molly is right to be like “you rocking with this bitch who’s fucking your ex, that’s messy”

But Molly is also messy af.. and she just got turned out by the Asian dude who got her all fucked up in the head.



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38. "yeah but at some point you gotta grow up and move on."
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i think Issa and everyone around her, if they are being mature, should be totally cool with the organizer chick dating Lawrence.

it's hard to tell the exact timeline in Insecure, but she's had to have been broken up with Lawrence for at LEAST 8 months. he's clearly moved on. Issa seems like she has too and even if she does have a bit of feelings there she's trying to be mature and let it go.

so, Molly harping on her like 'you gonna be friends with that chick?' or whatever? that's bum shit. like, as a friend, you don't want Issa to move on? Seeing your ex with other people, whether you know them or not, and not collapsing into a puddle of tears, is maturity.

Molly trash cuz of her own issue she be projecting on to everyone else.

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41. "there's the fact that Molly actually KNOWS Issa and she's notorious.."
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for saying she's good with shit until she's not. Like the whole living with Daniel thing. Like her job with "We Got Y'all". Like her current emplomyent situation. Like Nathan. Molly sees the bs with Issa coming before Issa does.

Yet Molly is always supportive and there to help her pick up the pieces when shit crumbles.

I remember at the end of season 1 when they were in Malibu and Issa wanted to get back to LA and Tiffany and Kelli looked at her like "bitch you're on your own" and Molly walked out with her keys like "bitch lets go"

  

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43. "Promo ain’t making no damn sense.. lol"
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You should get over finding out your new bestie is getting ducked down by your ex of 5 years because it’s been a whole 8 months.

Oh, these okp’s and their skewed views.. gotta love it.

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42. "you would be cool with a dude dating your ex of 5 years? FOH"
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Not sure I can even call that WPS.

You sound like you never had an ex before.

Ain’t no way.

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59. "yup. we exes for a reason."
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y'all ain't never heard of maturity and letting go?

only on OKP.

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67. "y’all think it’s maturity. It’s simp shit. "
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what type of herb as niggas hang out with the dude smashing your ex? Cause he’s.. cool?

Go find a new dude to hang out with you simp ass niggas.

Joking but cmon b... you really playing Madden with dude and having bro nights?

Get a life..

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68. "men are so insecure. "
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i didn't say y'all gotta be BFFs.

that said, there are people who are good friends who had relations(hips) with the same person. it does happen.

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70. "I know it happens"
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There are dudes who get off on watching their wives get smashed too

It happens.. but that doesn’t make it a good idea or some mature shit.

Unless you cops renting and have to be in a persons life there is no reason for you to pursue a friendship with someone you just found out is dating your ex of 5 years.

Maturity ain’t got shit to do with it. That’s messy.

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71. "i guess we just see it differently"
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i'm not saying seek this person out to be a buddy.

nor am i saying let them fuck your guy/girl.

but when the paths cross, like they did in the show, you ain't gotta hate them outta principle.

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72. "Yeah. I think you changed your tone a bit"
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I didn’t say anything about hating the person.

You said up top people should be cool with hanging out and becoming friends with someone who you found out is dating your ex of 5 years.

Personally, to keep pursuing a friendship with dude is a sucker move.

I’m not saying I can’t fathom my ex dating someone else.. I’m saying I can’t fathom chilling with that dude because he’s cool.

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36. "Molly is a truth teller and Issa needs her in her life."
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39. "i don’t think that’s what happened there with molly. "
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Maybe a little. Molly is really protective of Issa and sees things for the potential of hurt that can come Issa’s way.

That *is* a messy situation, it would be for most people. I do think issa and condola can overcome it, I’m not so sure if Lawrence can, if issa and condola grow closer.

Also molly seems to genuinely love being an attorney. Despite her current work frustration

With that being said, Molly’s delivery and timing was horrible!!! And that was definitely related to her own saltiness about her feelings towards Andrew at that moment, on misery loves company

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44. "Yup. The timing of Molly is the problem most of the time"
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but she sees what Issa ended up daydreaming about when it came to Lawrence and ole girl.

It’s ducking with her and the only reason she is rocking with it is because of her new gig.

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35. "Solid episode, I had many chuckles"
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Music was on point as usual

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37. "always "
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>Music was on point as usual
>
>

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45. "s4 ep2: molly molly molly smh "
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Another great episode, I laughed hard the first 15 min. From the Halloween scene with the girls, to Lawrence with the guys to TSA bae and condom lol

Molly just can’t relax, reminds me of so many girls I went to school with, they like a guy, and immediately start seeing if they will check all the boxes so they can be hubby in six months smh...

We see even for more cracks between her and issa. Crack crack crack.

I love condola. I’m feeling for issa, condola is really like a girl crush, the woman she wants to be, and they have fun but it’s not really a true two way friendship, and it’s even moreso a dagger that her ex is now with this “improved version”, who she is trying to level up to be. I just hope condola doesn’t get burned too badly by what’s eventually coming down the road from either issa or Lawrence or both.

I’m all in tho!

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46. "The Condola shit is getting messy already, I feel like Lawrence was..."
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out of line for bringing that to Issa, if it's an issue take it up with your new chick. If he was going to address it with Issa that couldn't be handled with a phone call or text? Chad tried to drop some knowledge on him about peeing the pool that he swims in but I'm sure that went over his head.

And when Condola and Issa fall out and they eventually will, Issa will be running back to Molly.

Its obvious that Andrew is a player, and how many times has he walked out on Molly since they've been seeing each other? It should be a sign as to how he handles shit.

  

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48. "Lawrence was out of line and knew oh. Hence the creeping around "
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And that was goofy meeting and serious dating a woman he met at his ex girl’s good friends baby shower.

He didn’t have consideration for issa at (and maybe he still don’t really owe her shit since she blew up their relationship by cheating) but he didn’t think how his request could gut her.

On Andrew.....I initially thought that with the “work call” after he and molly left dinner but I’m not 100 percent sure, now I think he is just someone who keeps what he has going on with work and family stuff to himself. I’m like that too, I don’t open up to people I’m
Dating that quickly so I could relate to that. I could be wrong, if he is a player, and when that shit comes out, molly is going to be fucked up for a while

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52. "Bottom line between Condola, Issa & Lawrence, I think someone is going....."
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to have make a decision and be an adult and say "I'm out." That 3-way relationship cannot continue.

>And that was goofy meeting and serious dating a woman he met
>at his ex girl’s good friends baby shower.
>
>He didn’t have consideration for issa at (and maybe he still
>don’t really owe her shit since she blew up their
>relationship by cheating) but he didn’t think how his
>request could gut her.
>
>On Andrew.....I initially thought that with the “work
>call” after he and molly left dinner but I’m not 100
>percent sure, now I think he is just someone who keeps what he
>has going on with work and family stuff to himself. I’m like
>that too, I don’t open up to people I’m
>Dating that quickly so I could relate to that. I could be
>wrong, if he is a player, and when that shit comes out, molly
>is going to be fucked up for a while

as for Andrew everything about him has screamed player from day 1 but we'll see lol

  

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50. "Not sure how Condela can trust Issa"
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I’m sorry but if I find out I’m dating your ex of 5 years and you are “cool” with it I know you got some serious issues.

Just a matter of time before Issa tried to throw it at Lawrence again.

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56. "it's called maturity and not owning anyone"
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a dude I already knew dating my ex would be a violation

but if I become cool with a dude who had no clue of our history, well wishes to them. we wont be going on double dates, but we're exes for a reason

if anyone is at fault, it's Lawrence for getting at someone in Tiffany's circle. the slightest chance that someone could cross paths with Issa should have been a no

  

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60. "WE ><"
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>a dude I already knew dating my ex would be a violation
>
>but if I become cool with a dude who had no clue of our
>history, well wishes to them. we wont be going on double
>dates, but we're exes for a reason

THANK YOU.

>if anyone is at fault, it's Lawrence for getting at someone in
>Tiffany's circle. the slightest chance that someone could
>cross paths with Issa should have been a no

WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE FELLAS TOLD HIM AND FOR GOOD REASON.

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63. "Well if that’s the case, should be zero issue with Lawrence dating C"
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Lawrence knows that C was not a close friend of issa so as long as everyone is “mature” should be zero problem if he dates someone in issa’s periphery

Shit going further, as long as everyone is “mature”, Lawrence should be able to date one of the close friends too lol

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65. "That’s not maturity... that’s called being a simp"
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Mon Apr-20-20 08:11 PM by legsdiamond

          

Nothing good is going to come from pursuing a friendship with someone who is dating your ex.

You really that hard up to hang with a new friend?

You guys think you sound mature but you really sound weak af.

Way too many people in the world to hang with the one dude smashing your ex of 5 years.


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83. "I dont care what my exes are up to"
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if an ex hooked up with my boy and they both knew me/each other before, they're cut off from my life

if Im doing business with a dude and the world randomly throws my ex in his path, there's no violation on anyone's part

  

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179. "I missed this post. Would you befriend him and kick it after work? "
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That’s my point in all of this.

No one is saying it’s a violation for your ex to move on.

But I would think you would be violating your sanity to chill with dude after work and be all buddy buddy with him.

You guys keep changing up the scenario presented on the show.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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181. "if we had a good rapport, sure"
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would I want to know about how they're doing, not really

  

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243. "Yeah... that not normal. "
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and the storyline was put in because it’s messy. Not because it’s mature.

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269. "or...I dont care what my exes are up to after we're done"
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I dont know Insecure's exact timeline but

- Issa and Lawrence have gone on to date and fuck other people
- Issa and Lawrence have had a closure discussion
- Black LA is small, everyone knows someone through someone
- business is business, if Issa makes a good business connection who unknowingly meets her ex, it's on her to decide what she can and cant deal with. she was cool, Lawrence or Condola chose to break it off. but nothing overly messy happened

  

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51. "I'm cool with Lawrence taking it to Issa"
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If you're in his position, and you take the issue up with Condola, then it sounds like #1 you're not over your ex, and #2 that you don't want to be discussed because the ex is going to expose how trife you are.

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53. "if you have an issue with your current gf talking to your ex you take..."
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up with your current gf. If she chooses to continue to have a
"friendship" with your ex over your feelings then you have a decision to make.

Having an unnecessary in person meeting with your ex that could've been handled by phone or text and telling her not to tell your gf about it is shady all the way around and is a recipe for disaster once she eventually finds out and she will.

  

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75. "some of takes are odd. I guess people like being messy"
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theu are calling it maturity or being secure but... all it does is open a window into insecurity and secrets.

Issa and Lawrence talking, texting and meeting up isn’t going to lead to anything good.

Someone has to be the adult and remove themselves from this 3some.

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76. "nah, you bring that up to the current situation."
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not the past. going to Issa with it says more about not being over it to me. you don't have a secret meeting with the ex. I get not wanting receipts from texts or whatever, but the meeting still happened behind new chick's back.

he didn't have to involve her at all and by doing so makes the whole situation even more messy. he brought Issa even further into his new relationship than she was already.

on top, Issa wanted to talk with him on the phone. he got off the phone, but shenanigans are on the way.



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78. "The real answer is he shouldn’t have brought that shit to any of "
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Them, he failed once he reacted like that. Cause if he went to C and said hey don’t talk to my ex please about me, get to know me from me, it would have seemed like he had something to hide or had unresolved stuff with his ex.

He shoulda let it ride, if C brought something up from
What issa said, then he could address and correct at that time

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86. "#facts"
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89. "And real talk. Lawrence has the undisputed moral high ground "
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When it comes to issa. What could issa really say bad about Lawrence to C? That he was a bum for a few years? He could easily swat that down but how he is getting it career wise currently.

Issa would want to make sure nothing negative is conveyed to C cause Lawrence could easily be like ur homegirl fucked around on me and then begged to get me back, so that’s really who u want to be getting ur info from?

But of course if Lawrence reacted rationally we wouldn’t have the drama for this season so carry on lol

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91. "right, I think sometimes we all forget the name of the show lol..."
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>When it comes to issa. What could issa really say bad about
>Lawrence to C? That he was a bum for a few years? He could
>easily swat that down but how he is getting it career wise
>currently.
>
>Issa would want to make sure nothing negative is conveyed to C
>cause Lawrence could easily be like ur homegirl fucked around
>on me and then begged to get me back, so that’s really who u
>want to be getting ur info from?
>
>But of course if Lawrence reacted rationally we wouldn’t
>have the drama for this season so carry on lol

  

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54. "Good episode--not feeling Issa re Molly though."
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I hate hate hate when people be inviting people along when you didn't clear it with me first, and then she got the nerve to ask if she wanted Molly to uninvite her, you can't do that without looking like a bitch so of course she has to say no...

I do think the writing was a little off with Molly continuing to pry after Andrew clearly was implying he didn't want to talk more about his sister.

I would have thought even though she was trying to get to know him on a deeper level even she would have known to back off versus trying to push, I think that was poor writing trying to push the plot further along rather than it being truly something Molly would do.

Lawrence going to Issa and even meeting up with her is super sketch and hella out of line. You got an issue with your new girl and ex, you go to the new girl to work it out, your ex owes you nothing.

  

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55. "100% to all of this. And yes I never consider the need to move "
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The plot along given that it’s only 8-10 30 min eps, I’m sure ur right. But then again molly is very high strung and never quite satisfied so that wasn’t really off the mark for her either

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58. "#facts:"
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>Lawrence going to Issa and even meeting up with her is super
>sketch and hella out of line. You got an issue with your new
>girl and ex, you go to the new girl to work it out, your ex
>owes you nothing.

  

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69. "RE: Good episode--not feeling Issa re Molly though."
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Da wiz said this...
>I hate hate hate when people be inviting people along when
>you didn't clear it with me first, and then she got the nerve
>to ask if she wanted Molly to uninvite her

Code

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47. "E2: I didn't see much wrong w Molly's approach tbh"
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When she brought it up to him, I don't think she should've led off w "I'm frustrated..." but she is within her right to want to date someone with depth. Or at least find out whether or not he has any

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49. "her desire and sentiment weren’t unfair but her delivery and "
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Lack of patience were a mess to me. If someone you *just* started dating seriously is indicating something serious and off may be going on with a family member and they say they don’t want to talk about it right now, the response should be well ok, I want to get to know you deeper and for you to trust me enough to open up right now but I can wait until your ready.

I think that’s why she also apologized when he called her, or at least started too.

Had she reacted like to me, I would had the same reaction Andrew did, if I tell you I don’t wanna talk about some personal shit cause I really don’t know you like that and then u tell me ur frustrated because of that, I’d think u selfish and inconsiderate and bounce.

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95. "I agree, but"
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(and I say this without really recalling their interactions in S3)

If someone starts talking to someone for a month, a few months, whatever ... and they see one thing they don't like and they peace out, how could they expect to get anywhere with anyone? That's rhetorical btw unless you have thoughts

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100. "I agree with this:"
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>If someone starts talking to someone for a month, a few
>months, whatever ... and they see one thing they don't like
>and they peace out, how could they expect to get anywhere with
>anyone? That's rhetorical btw unless you have thoughts

  

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57. "They been at it for a minute"
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but here’s one thing I told a woman I dated before who tried to get me to tell my deepest darkest...

When I’m ready... I’ll tell you. It’s really insensitive to demand someone tell you what you hold close to your heart.

Best thing you can do is say “if and when you are ready.. I’m here for you”

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96. "That's real"
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I hope they both learned from that. More so Molly in this instance

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79. "Naw yo, Molly's approach was all the way wrong. "
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Mad aggressive and then accused him of lacking "depth" because he didn't open up to her? Turrible.

Im surprised dude called her back.



>When she brought it up to him, I don't think she should've
>led off w "I'm frustrated..." but she is within her right to
>want to date someone with depth. Or at least find out whether
>or not he has any


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82. "^^^"
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97. "I was more so defending her intent than her approach"
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>Mad aggressive and then accused him of lacking "depth"
>because he didn't open up to her? Turrible.
>
>Im surprised dude called her back.

And I think he called back cause he was able to see her intent through her terrible approach

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61. "Saw this point being made on a different forum & I ain't mad:"
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"Personally, I think Molly has grown and Issa has regressed. Molly has moved forward with her career. She’s finally said that she’s not going to continue relationships that may potentially be pointless. Was she a little pushy with Andrew, yes, but he understood that she didn’t want to just fuck.

Issa on the other hand quit a job that was stable- even if she was miserable. Had to go live with a man that she cheated on her bf with. Finally finds a place and starts fucking a man with 3 kids and doesn’t use protection all of the time. The only semi-successful thing that she has going can’t be done without help from the woman that’s currently fucking her ex. At this point, Issa can’t do ANYTHING without someone helping her. Whereas in the beginning of the series, she was self sufficient. She’s had no growth imo."

  

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62. "i don’t know about no growth but issa is a mess, a mess in "
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Progress to being less a mess but I too have no respect for people who quit jobs just becuz they are miserable when they can’t actually afford to...that’s childish

If ur art or being a creative can’t also sustain u, u need to be having a stable source of income. Period.

Molly is definitely growing and likewise growing apart from issa. I think issa also cares a bit less about growing distant from her. I think she still is harboring Ill feelings about how molly curved light eyed nigga from last season on her behalf (again a good call by molly becuz that woulda thrown that whole day off for issa and she would have never got inspiration for the block party or met condola)

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66. "Now tell me that ain’t insecure... lol"
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All facts.

and when Molly heard where Issa is in her “relationship” she finally saw the light.

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73. "Issa character is a bird."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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64. "also RE molly and Andrew: I could see her getting everything she "
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Wants from him and then fucking it up by fucking Torian’s fine ass at work, no slut shame but she does have precedent of fucking her co workers.

Fucks him and it comes out and she loses it all, as the reincarnation of issa fucking Daniel and blowing up her relationship with Lawrence, tables turned!!

And yes this wasn’t exactly an original thought but I find it plausible!

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74. "yeah I definitely see Molly fucking Torian at some point lol"
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77. "Did Molly get Crazier?"
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Molly reminds me of ALL the crazier girls I know who manage to find drama in every situations possible. The scene when the new girl came and crashed their lunch, it was all passive aggressive, eye rolls, sighs, "I guess its cool...."

I asked my wife, "doesn't all her mannerisms remind you of and she was like "YEAH! can't put my finger on why"

Cause Crazy Eyes Don't Lie.


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80. "It’s called acting?"
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>Molly reminds me of ALL the crazier girls I know who manage
>to find drama in every situations possible. The scene when
>the new girl came and crashed their lunch, it was all passive
>aggressive, eye rolls, sighs, "I guess its cool...."
>
>I asked my wife, "doesn't all her mannerisms remind you of
> and she was like "YEAH! can't put my finger
>on why"
>
>Cause Crazy Eyes Don't Lie.

  

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84. "You missed my point. Did her character get crazier or was she always li..."
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this?


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85. "Why did she do that was so crazy? "
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she already told Issa she didn’t think it was a good idea to hang with the new girl since she is dating Lawrence..

and of course she feels like a 3rd wheel since Issa is all goofy over her new friend.

I don’t think it’s crazy for her to visually express her displeasure... that’s the part that dude says is acting because the whole point is to shoe you are annoyed physically without expressing if verbally.


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87. "Basically..."
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>she already told Issa she didn’t think it was a good idea
>to hang with the new girl since she is dating Lawrence..
>
>and of course she feels like a 3rd wheel since Issa is all
>goofy over her new friend.
>
>I don’t think it’s crazy for her to visually express her
>displeasure... that’s the part that dude says is acting
>because the whole point is to shoe you are annoyed physically
>without expressing if verbally.

  

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88. "When you don’t want to be around someone "
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but you aren’t feeling them and don’t want to verbally say it you tend to make faces and physically show displeasure.

When they grabbed the menus and Molly didn’t have one.. of course she was going to be “this bitch” with her gestures.

So odd that the one who IMO sees the messiness about to unfold is somehow the crazy one. I’m not even a fan of Molly but damn... she ain’t wrong.

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81. "She always had that crazy eye "
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but she already let us know she isn’t feeling the new friendship so I don’t think it was strange for her to act like that when Issa invited ole girl to stay.

There wasn’t anything crazy about that scene.

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90. "Molly’s not crazy. She’s not good with processing her emotions"
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But shit a lot of people fall into that category at one time or another.

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92. "E3: Lowkey Thankful. Thoughts?"
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93. "Meh."
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The scene between Issa and her brother at the Mexican spot was great and showed she can be honest with her brother in a way she can no longer be with Molly...

...but other than that meh.

Not feeling the implication that Issa and Lawrence might get back together, that plot line needs to be done with, not drawn out.

Speaking of drawn out, drawing out the eventual shouting match between Issa and Molly is wack.

Also I don’t really think it’s realistic to plan to talk about their fading friendship at a Thanksgiving when all of Molly’s family is gonna be around....I get the idea is they would I guess be in the kitchen and the rest of the fam in the living room but eh it just seems like a weird thing for both of them agree on.

Of course it feels like it’s only there to kick the convo to a later episode but still, an odd choice for the writers.

  

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105. "I really feel like Lawrence was down and just wanted to feel better "
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And reached out to issa just cause that’s what he knew, I think not only were his feelings hurt coming from condola’s place but also his ego. Plus the shit with his job, he just needed something to make him feel better. He obviously didn’t spend the night with C...

>Not feeling the implication that Issa and Lawrence might get
>back together, that plot line needs to be done with, not drawn
>out.
>


>
>Also I don’t really think it’s realistic to plan to talk
>about their fading friendship at a Thanksgiving when all of
>Molly’s family is gonna be around....I get the idea is they
>would I guess be in the kitchen and the rest of the fam in the
>living room but eh it just seems like a weird thing for both
>of them agree on.
>

Seems like issa goes every year and she’s fam adjacent so that didn’t strike me as weird at all, they are best friends, I’m sure both of their families have been nearby when some serious stuff between then goes down or needs to be discussed.

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94. "Lawrence and Condola are both messy af, going back to last episode..."
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I feel like Condola was extra for telling Lawrence something Issa said about him that was unnecessary and extra making an already awkward situation worse. Then he had to meet Issa in person to tell her how he felt instead of calling or texting, then told Issa not to tell Condola. If it was really an issue he should’ve just taken it up with Condola in the first place and said nothing to his EX Issa.

Then this episode when he saw Issa at the restaurant after all that he could’ve just spoke and kept it moving instead of coming and hugging her and cracking jokes like he hadn’t JUST seen her and he KNEW Condola was meeting him there. Then stood there staring at her awkwardly like SHE had to leave.

Overall I feel like the tension between Issa and Molly seems super manufactured based on their history.

Also I know everyone is different but I feel like it was weird for Molly and Condola to think it was weird to invite someone they’re supposedly dating exclusively for a couple of months AND fucking over for the holidays.

Then at the end Lawrence hopping right back in Issa’s DM’s setting up for them to get back together. Overall I feel like the writing this season is hella rushed and forced. Apparently she’s trying to wrap things up for the final season.

  

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98. "I’ve always had issues with the writers room on this show."
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Obviously some episodes are fantastic but in general I find myself questioning them doing something I view as a mistake or rushing to get the plot going, or just it being a case of bad writing...

Re Molly and Condola and their Thanksgiving baes, I sorta see Molly questioning it since meeting the family for the first time is always a big deal and if it was during a family holiday like Thanksgiving I think she was right to question if it was the right thing to do...

Condola not directly inviting him for Friendsgiving is wack though, since that’s a perfect time to introduce someone, unless you aren’t that serious about them, which is what I guess the writers were trying to imply...

Honestly Lawrence reading too much into what a drunk friend says is silly but I guess realistic...

  

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99. "Although sketchy in spots overall I have like the writing..."
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>Obviously some episodes are fantastic but in general I find
>myself questioning them doing something I view as a mistake or
>rushing to get the plot going, or just it being a case of bad
>writing...
>
>Re Molly and Condola and their Thanksgiving baes, I sorta see
>Molly questioning it since meeting the family for the first
>time is always a big deal and if it was during a family
>holiday like Thanksgiving I think she was right to question if
>it was the right thing to do...

Yeah I could see Molly having reservations about her current situation considering he’s been kind of secretive about his family but Issa’s logic was faulty

>Condola not directly inviting him for Friendsgiving is wack
>though, since that’s a perfect time to introduce someone,
>unless you aren’t that serious about them, which is what I
>guess the writers were trying to imply...

Letting Lawrence invite himself then bringing it up immediately afterwards was weird

>Honestly Lawrence reading too much into what a drunk friend
>says is silly but I guess realistic...

that’s part of why I feel the writing is forced and rushed, a lot of stuff that would probably be addressed down the road it’s addressed right away, let shit marinate lol

  

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101. "feels like GOT last season... "
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Like they know there is an end date and they have other shit they want to do so they are speeding things up.

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102. "right..."
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>Like they know there is an end date and they have other shit
>they want to do so they are speeding things up.
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109. "To be fair, as far as the timing/rushed feeling"
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They're telling us up front how much time has passed.
Episode 2 was 3 months before the block party. Episode 3 was 2 months before the block party.
I can't remember what Episode 1 said, but i kinda wanna say it was 6 months before the block party. Could be wrong on that one.
But time is definitely moving along quite quickly.
Things will obviously come to a head at the block party. I would guess that following the party is when Issa and Lawrence hook up.

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106. "Yeah considering how sprung Lawrence is on condola him "
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Getting all wrapped in that same banter him and issa do without even looking for condola was off, that was just a dumb scene all over, especially after he was supposedly there to meet C and he had just told issa not to speak to C about him
Last week.

Ugh at that scene lol

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103. "niggaz is nitpicky as fuck in here"
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the show is written great

of course it's not to each individuals liking, that's the fucking point of a show

to have you disagree with plot points

no one is mentioning gaping plot holes or counter narratives

just "i don't like that/i wouldn't do that"

lol

love this season, i feel like the show is maturing in a grinding way that doesn't heft the main character up, but shows how people evolve and devolve and the assumptions that are made when you see someone making internal vs. external strides and what that means to you and your group/or friend

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114. "right? the typical OKP must be levitating over everyone else..."
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and never have done stupid young relationship shit, cause, IRL, i seen ALL OF THIS SHIT.

i've done some of it. i've seen other's do it.

the writers write this shit real AF IMO.

i don't know what everyone else is seeing.

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119. "We can’t talk about the show?"
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121. "lol!"
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122. "Damn you really don’t know how to discuss stuff do you?"
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In multiple posts I see you come in and decree someone’s opinions dumb because you don’t agree with them, and rather than actually listen to what they are saying about a particular point and respond or critique that.

Your type of responses do nothing to elevate a conversation and only seems to have the function of shutting it down.

Do better.

  

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125. "He doesn’t even see the playery of it all"
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127. "HOW BOUT "NO.""
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I didn't shut down anyone's opinion. I actually was AGREEING with eclipsed's take...so, that's like the...opposite of what you're saying.

also, i'm discussing the show. not only that but giving it credit for, in my opinion, it's very realistic take on relationships and friendships.

sheesh.

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180. "this nigga likening niggaz to mods"
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LoL

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104. "The first 10 minutes were meh, but the ep got good after that! "
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I seem to feel like this once a season with this show, an ep trying to cover a lot of ground but ending up just being a whole lot of disjointed filler.

However after getting past those first two scenes (condola, Lawrence and issa in the cafe, blah we get its awkward; molly and issa in the grocery store, again we get it, they have underlying tension) I think this ep was really pivotal for the whole season and (unfortunately) was a lot of shit I could relate to.

I see C and her relationship in a whole new light now and seems Lawrence does too. He is just not of her world and I think that was definitely in the back of her mind. I think she does genuinely care for him becuz she is the type of person that just genuinely cares for people but he is definitely a means to an end for her, he’s nice enuff to hang out with and fuck but not really what she wants long term.

It was so petty for her to remind him that he wasn’t really invited (she couldn’t let that lingering annoyance go (so me lol) and coupled with him saying he would and then not fixing the sink), she just had to go there lol. Then when he made the mistake of coming off whiney about his feelings and questioning her, she decided to just get it all the way popping and call him out about issa (again petty). That question about would you still be with her if she hadn’t cheated was so unnecessary and irrelevant but that’s what you do when u tryna be petty lol.

Lawrence smiley facing issa’s social media was more about him returning to safe place after he became acutely aware that he was out of his depth with condola and her whole world.

Issa’s and Molly’s time with their families was really essential to both of them and allowed for some venting and healing. I do think it would have been too soon for Andrew to have come and him not being there allowed for molly to reconcile with her dad a bit.
Issa got to finally truly vent about Lawrence and condola and show how immature and petty she still is, with that same boring thing, she got the nigga after I built him up. Different ppl bring out different things in each other and Lawrence’s life got better once he left issa, well before he got with C

Issa and molly are in a dangerous place with each other, that point where you stop really considering the other persons feelings and it seems like more harm or work than it’s worth to fix the situation (I’ve so been there smh)

Very interesting to see how bad this all gets for issa and molly and Lawrence

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107. "Right I thought that was crazy too..."
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>It was so petty for her to remind him that he wasn’t really
>invited (she couldn’t let that lingering annoyance go (so me
>lol) and coupled with him saying he would and then not fixing
>the sink), she just had to go there lol.

that’s the kind of thing you may joke about later on after some time has passed but to hit him with it right then was like “damn!” lol

The sink thing was kind of weird too for him to try to jump right in and do that right then when he apparently had little to no experience with that type of thing. That was definition of trying too hard lol

  

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108. "and that’s it. He is really into condola and doing 5 much. That’s pa..."
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Of why he wanted that promotion and the point of that convo with chad in his Range Rover. He feels like everything needs to level up for him now that he has leveled up to his ideal girl.

Meanwhile I lowkey feel like she is just using him to pass the time, she might get there with him but his insecurities will probably completely turn her off before they can grow there

Plus whenever the shit hits the fan with Issa lol

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113. "damn you're right I hadn't really thought of that angle..."
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>Of why he wanted that promotion and the point of that convo
>with chad in his Range Rover. He feels like everything needs
>to level up for him now that he has leveled up to his ideal
>girl.

Condola and her peeps seem like they might be part of that "talented tenth" crew and he's probably feeling INSECURE after being with a chick that was cool with him sitting on the couch for 5 years lol

>Meanwhile I lowkey feel like she is just using him to pass the
>time, she might get there with him but his insecurities will
>probably completely turn her off before they can grow there

yeah and if her divorce was just like a year ago a lot of people are not ready to hop back into a serious relationship that fast especially depending on how the last one ended which hasn't been addressed at this point

>Plus whenever the shit hits the fan with Issa lol

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110. "this show gives me a panic attack feeling after each ep. "
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or anxiety.

I can't figure it out.

something is off.

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111. "You sure it’s the show? "
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Cause um... these people and this show isn’t actual real.

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112. "sign of a good show. I get anxiety watching ozark and zerozerozero lol"
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Becuz I feel like any could die and it’s always there.

Not over insecure and definitely not panic attacks but if a show can make you experience real emotion it’s doing some wrong. I definitely get annoyed at issa and molly lol

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115. "This season could be about friends just growing apart. "
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One of the surprising things about my 30s (or late 30s) was just drifting away from friends who no real trigger event (well more like a bunch of minor events that culminate in what should be a minor event but somehow escalating).

Isa is coming off as that self absorbed friend who doesn't have time for other people but is always asking for help and and ear.

I just felt like the advice her brother was giving her wasn't great and selfish and probably would have been the exact opposite Molly would have given her (and she ain't trying to hear it).




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116. "When your friends aren’t giving you what you need.. "
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it usually is the beginning of the end or re-evaluation of the friendship.

Issa still being messy. Molly definitely didn’t help when Issa was in the middle of her fundraising event but she wasn’t wrong when it comes to the overall point.

Friends with Lawrence’s ex is some messy ass shit.

Seems like Molly is realizing she isn’t nearly as messy as Issa tried to perceive her to be. We nice you look at Issa’s decisions you realize she isn’t growing at all. She cheated, moved in with dude, played games and then had a hilarious FWB who had 3 kids.

and Molly is getting shitted on for trying to build a real ass relationship with someone she finally has real feelings for and Issa ain’t trying to hear it

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117. "This is totally fair:"
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>Seems like Molly is realizing she isn’t nearly as messy as
>Issa tried to perceive her to be. We nice you look at Issa’s
>decisions you realize she isn’t growing at all. She cheated,
>moved in with dude, played games and then had a hilarious FWB
>who had 3 kids.
>
>and Molly is getting shitted on for trying to build a real ass
>relationship with someone she finally has real feelings for
>and Issa ain’t trying to hear it

Also yeah as someone said up above, her words to her brother totally proves that Molly was right after all, that being friends with Condola while she dates Lawrence IS truly really is messy.

  

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118. "I Agree with you on this: "
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>
>Isa is coming off as that self absorbed friend who doesn't
>have time for other people but is always asking for help and
>and ear.

You hit the nail on the head with that, and I think we all know someone exactly like that.
However I disagree with this:
>
>I just felt like the advice her brother was giving her wasn't
>great and selfish and probably would have been the exact
>opposite Molly would have given her (and she ain't trying to
>hear it).


All he said was she had a right to feel how she felt. He didn’t say act on it. Being emotionally honest, with our own selves is essential to growth. And it’s definitely a balance but there are people who suppress their own feelings too much in consideration of others.

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120. "You are right. "
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>All he said was she had a right to feel how she felt. He
>didn’t say act on it. Being emotionally honest, with our own
>selves is essential to growth. And it’s definitely a balance
>but there are people who suppress their own feelings too much
>in consideration of others.
>
>

That's true. It just seems like he gave the advice that lead her to blow off Molly (and their family) and in both instances it seemed like the wrong, self-absorbed thing to do.



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123. "Yeah he gave her the green light to fully embrace what she was "
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Already feeling.

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126. "I feel like this is different for men and women..."
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for guys I feel like we just get busy with other shit whether its family, career or a combo etc where we just don't have time to bullshit with our boys as much but we're still cool when do run into to each other whether its a reunion, funeral or random...

Its seems like women actually "fall out" with their friends more like:

"you talked to Kim?"

"Fuck that bitch she think she all that!"

and don't even speak anymore lol

  

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124. ""You dress like a swap-meet mannequin""
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I guffawed

  

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128. "Renewed for S5!"
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131. "E4: Lowkey Losin’ It. Thoughts?"
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132. "#TeamMolly"
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‪Props to Molly for being honest with Issa.‬

‪She coulda easily lied to Issa & said Andrew said he couldn’t help but she was honest! ‬

‪Also props to her for not pointing out to Issa she’s wack for hating on Molly and specifically this relationship but then wanting her and Andrew’s help.

‪Also props to Molly for taking the time to fix it with Andrew. She really is trying to do the right thing and that’s dope.

  

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133. "pretty much agree with everything..."
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plus it looks like Molly was right about the Lawrence and Condola shit getting messy.

And Issa still never got the water fixed? She’s about to fuck up her real job fooling with her fake one lol

  

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134. "Yeah I get annoyed with Issa the Apartment Manager..."
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10 residents ain’t coming up in MY crib uninvited absolutely not, I don’t give a fuck about how mad you are about the water...

Also I thought she was supposed to like meet with the water department and that’s why the water was stopped but someone on Twitter said she didn’t pay her bill (which makes more sense) and if it is that Issa sucks for not setting a reminder, which is the easiest way to remember something in the world.

I know I know, her forgetting about her real job is meant to show how invested she is in this fake one but it’s annoying to me lol and shows me how lame Issa is, she gon fuck around and get fired from her real job that doesn’t even actually pay her if she isn’t careful

  

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157. "I’m #TeamMolly too overall but she coulda have asked and tried"
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To help. That was actually a pretty shitty thing to do considering Andrew probably would not have been bothered (regardless if he could actually help or not) and what she conveyed to her was that I prioritize my new relationship with Andrew over my friendship with you.

Molly could have read her for filth about how much a mess she is and only reaching out for help but she still shouldn’t have let her closest friend potentially fail so hard at something so important to her on different levels

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135. "Also why didn’t she call Daniel to headline as the DJ?"
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I know they aren’t on the best of terms but she didn’t mind trying to use Molly so I wouldn’t be shocked if she tried to reach out to Daniel since she’s desperate....

Only thing I thought though was maybe he isn’t famous enough to be a headliner which I get but he would at least be a good resource to reach out to other local artists...

  

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144. "From Schoolboy Q to Rando Daniel"
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Yeah that makes total sense.

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145. "Eh if she was wasting her time calling a friend to see if their kid"
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might have possibly gotten famous then I don't see how reaching out to Daniel as a backup or to see if he had contacts with well known LA local artists is much worse. *Kanye shrug*

  

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146. "Rando Daniel as headliner. Yep. I'm going to that block party."
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148. "That was just for the joke.. lol"
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if he really blew up, wouldn’t she know about it?

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156. "Well she certainly could have reached out him for his industry"
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Connects. She was desperate (and understandably so) so anything should have been on the table.

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136. "I wish Molly and Issa would just have THE talk already"
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I get that, from a show perspective, they're probably building it up. But from a general friend perspective, the communication gap just keeps getting wider the longer they delay it. I think this is what ultimately led to Molly deciding not to ask Andrew to help Issa

Other than that, I'm glad Molly is being vulnerable and honest w Andrew and that, up to this point, they're continuing to be patient w each other and trying to build something real

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137. "Their friendship has been a mess since season 1 lol "
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138. "Lol fair point nm"
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158. "Molly’s been trying but issa keeps playing her to the left "
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Molly definitely cares more about their friendship right now and both of their care and value they see in their friendship has been diminished

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139. "Issa is at her best in the scenes by herself"
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her mirror chats and the phone calls had me dying...i love her comedic timing so much...she is really really good

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143. "the show requires multiple viewings to catch small details"
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Episode 1 this season, Molly told Issa she could use Andrew's contacts at Live Nation

by Episode 4, she felt like Issa was being an opportunist calling in for a favor since their relationship had been changing

I can see how Issa feels abandoned by Molly, but she's very caught up in her own world at the moment

next week is the block party and that's only halfway through the season, no clue where it's headed

  

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159. "RE: the show requires multiple viewings to catch small details"
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^^^i have been watching each ep twice since s2, it’s so essential lol

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150. "Wimen be loving Drama"
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I don't Molly for not hooking Isa up. But there were a couple of other ways to do it.

My wife suggestion was go to her guy and say, "my friend is mad janky, a bit of a mess, but do you mind talking to her and see if you want to help at all. No pressure if you don't"

My suggestion was to just say, "Sorry Isa, my dude can't help"

If you HAVE to tell the truth, she could have also gone with the "I am sorry Isa but we just got through a real rough patch and I am not comfortable asking",

But Molly did it in really the most dramatic way she could.

It's hilariously accurate because I see this with my wife frends ALL the time. They love to call each other up and announce that they don't want to be friends anymore with someone (and then eventually go back on it) rather than doing what dudes do in an undramatic fashion and just stop fking with someone like they use to without making an announcement.



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160. "So refreshing to be in a molly safe space, all my friends think she is "
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a “Miserable bitch”. I’m usually fighting her corner solo in my various group texts.

Anyway quick notes. So proud of molly for stretching herself to make her relationship with Andrew work and trying(even if after the fact) to see his POV. People are saying he’s not that into her and she’s gonna get crushed but I just see him as a being more laid back and going with the flow, taking cues from molly becuz she is the more high strung one.

Condola and Lawrence donezo and now condola is making both him
And Issa’s life a misery, think C was behind schoolboy q dropping out, regardless C is due a curse out from Issa

Nathan will make his reappearance at the block party, maybe even Daniel too! Lol

Kelli, Tiffany are the MVPs of the ep, listening but not getting involved. The after show indicating that they really use tiff and Derek to introduce a lot of issues that they can’t otherwise since the mains aren’t married or have kids, which I think is good.

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161. "RE: E4: Lowkey Losin’ It. Thoughts?"
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>

The way this is headed is exactly the point: people who invest lots of time into one another can mess up in the silliest ways at the wrong time and break up relationships.

And we don't know. Things could still go super sideways/something bigger and badder could happen. I dig that they are giving us the block party so early in the season. The aftermath might be even better. And if they mess around and end up 'back friends' after a while of not being friends, folks are gonna be at the house snot bubble crying. And it will be good.

Hell, I figure folks will take Lawrence and Issa getting back together as a consolation depending on how it happens.

  

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162. "I for one would be ok with Lawrence going his own way after this "
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Season. maybe issa truly wants him back but he’s just sniffing back up her tree becuz she’s familiar and welcoming.

Lawerence can get his own spinoff or whatever becuz I know he’s a fan favorite (myself included) but them getting back together makes zero sense

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140. "i was dying that Derek was espousing my theory on girl dads."
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every dude i know who used be out in these streets doing wild shit to/with women ONLY has daughters.

i know it's a not a rule of law, but i'll be damned if it doesn't happen WAAAAAAAAAY more often than not.

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141. "Bruh.. lmao. "
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142. "That fingerfuck line was really gross and super uncalled for. "
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Like...Just no.

  

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147. "ur right and he's right, lol."
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149. "You don't have brothers do you?"
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151. "That joke was strictly for men with daughters"
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152. "To a tee, all my worst grimiest friends have daughter. "
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I wouldn't have believed it was possible until I saw it happen.

We joke about it often. The dad could make that joke, a friend of the dad would be f'd up to make that joke.


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153. "Nas has a line about it. "
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But what can you do? You get what you get.

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154. "I have 1 brother but it doesn’t matter. "
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Line is still gross.

Point was made when he said earlier that all the women he dated were daughters. There was no need for that next line, didn’t even make the joke of “Look at my baby” “Please don’t make it” worth it.

Someone said below that Nas has a line about that idea, I know it, it’s from Daughters, “the cruelest heartbreakers in the world, God gets us back when we have precious little girls”.

Funny how Nas too can make the same point they already made on Insecure without having to resort to such a fucked up and unfunny line.

  

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155. "its in line with the rest of the shows comedy. "
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they take it there a lot.

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164. "You got a glimpse into how guys talk when there are no women around"
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Sure it was distasteful but I've heard it all before.

I don't know if the goal was to make a point or show how new dads talk some time.

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168. "What’s up with your insistence on trying to be right? "
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First it’s that well I don’t have brothers so I don’t get it...

Now it’s “well ya know now you know how men talk in private”...

I really don’t need you to keep trying to find new ways to invalidate my opinion that the line was trash and gross.

Doesn’t matter how many brothers I have, doesn’t matter if that’s just how niggas talk when women aren’t around, that doesn’t change my opinion that that line was gross and uncalled for and I don’t need you to keep replying with different reasons why I’m just not getting it or reasons why the line should be understood or given a pass.

  

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172. "for the record I agree with you, when he said that I was like "wtf"..."
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most dudes I know with daughters don't even like to joke about shit like that whether its true or not lol...

>First it’s that well I don’t have brothers so I don’t
>get it...
>
>Now it’s “well ya know now you know how men talk in
>private”...
>
>I really don’t need you to keep trying to find new ways to
>invalidate my opinion that the line was trash and gross.
>
>Doesn’t matter how many brothers I have, doesn’t matter if
>that’s just how niggas talk when women aren’t around, that
>doesn’t change my opinion that that line was gross and
>uncalled for and I don’t need you to keep replying with
>different reasons why I’m just not getting it or reasons why
>the line should be understood or given a pass.

  

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173. "I read an interview recently with two of the Insecure writers..."
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And they were saying, like I am sure is the case with many writers rooms, sometimes they have jokes or lines that sound great in their head but not on paper, sometimes sounds good on paper but not when the actors says them at table read, and sometimes great at table read but not during when the scene is being filmed.

Not sure where in the process this joke broke down lol (I personally am 100% sure it was during the first step) but I am DYING that folks in this thread are defending it with every breath...

Like damn nigga can't it just be that whoever wrote it has horrible taste in making jokes and that's an okay opinion to have?

Niggas gotta be right about everything and mansplain everything to the point that people can't even not like the tone of a joke?

FOH lol...

  

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182. "Why you acting like you aren't trying to be just as right?"
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I am not trying to change your opinion. I am not even pushing back on it being gross. My only point is that its not uncommon for guys to talk like that.

You describe it as a fail but the joke might not have been for you but rather new dads who have been there.

Even in the process you describe for killing jokes doesn't apply here because it made it pass the writers stage, the table reading stage, even the filming stage and they still decided to keep the joke.

I get it. It's your post and you want the last word. So go for it.




>And they were saying, like I am sure is the case with many
>writers rooms, sometimes they have jokes or lines that sound
>great in their head but not on paper, sometimes sounds good on
>paper but not when the actors says them at table read, and
>sometimes great at table read but not during when the scene is
>being filmed.
>
>Not sure where in the process this joke broke down lol (I
>personally am 100% sure it was during the first step) but I am
>DYING that folks in this thread are defending it with every
>breath...
>
>Like damn nigga can't it just be that whoever wrote it has
>horrible taste in making jokes and that's an okay opinion to
>have?
>
>Niggas gotta be right about everything and mansplain
>everything to the point that people can't even not like the
>tone of a joke?
>
>FOH lol...


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184. "it’s a more graphic “keep my daughter off the stripper pole” "
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Every dude who has a daughter has this thought at some point.

This is also a show where they have jokes during sex scenes. I really don’t see why it bothers you this much.




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176. "Yeah the sentiment I’m sure is common but giving the graphic example"
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Was a bit weird. Like gross lol

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188. "aight but then who is raising these ain't-shit boys?"
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163. "How about when Molly said to old boy, "You are my priority"."
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Anyone else think that's crazy talk?

Like should a woman in Molly's position put a relationship before her career?


I mean it all struck home but I've been married to a lawyer and part of how it goes is the expectation that they will be working ALOT. It's why a lot of lawyers date other lawyers because they are familiar with the lifestyle.

Maybe Iam a little thrown because their relationship does not seem that serious at this point. You ain't going to the family thanksgiving but Molly suppose to make dude a priority over her career??!?




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165. "Goodness. Telling a mate "You are my priority" is controversial now? "
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167. "Not controversial. I just don't rock like that. "
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I guess I am wondering if that's the expectations of dating these days.


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169. "Making your SO a priority isn’t new to dating"
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166. "I don’t think she meant over her career"
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just that she is going to try and be better at committing to date nights.

For some people work is their life. I think that’s the case with Molly and if she wants a real relationship she is going to have to find a balance. Doesn’t have to be 50/50 either.. just make sure you are all in when in the presence of your SO.

and don’t invite your SO over if you are having a work night.

One other thing. See how shocked she was when he made plans because of how she was operating?

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170. "That's the trade off. "
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>One other thing. See how shocked she was when he made plans
>because of how she was operating?


I get you are all about your career, you just got to expect me to make other plans...and you can't expect me to drop everything when you just happen to have free time.

If YOU have free time, I should be a priority after work (maybe you right and that is what she mean), but I can't sit around and wait for you to be free.

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171. "Basically"
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and it’s one of the issues I run into at home. Women value their work. It makes them who they are a lot of times. The. They will turn around and ask you take a day off or ask why you work so much...

but flip it on them and it’s “because my career is important”

Just make sure you respect my time as well.

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174. "when he came over and she jumped all over him and they got in..."
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bed then she was like "wait, I gotta work, I should be done by 9" then came back to bed at 1:45am I would've been gone and it would've been over lol

  

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175. "he got some rest *and* some pussy. She definitely didnt prioritize "
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Him that night but he didn’t actually lose out on anything either lol

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177. "Right. If that didn't make you happy.."
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then you can't be with an SO about they business....




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190. "Fuck that, she knew she wanted to work, she could’ve told him..."
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either before he got there or right after he got there instead of jumping on him and getting in the bed lol.

Andrew obviously has other shit going on, she’s luck he didn’t leave.

  

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193. "Imagine if you cancelled plans that night too? "
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She could’ve just told him to come over late night or tomorrow.

I like sex as much as the next man but I also like spending my nights doing more than waiting for you to finish working.

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186. "Nope. That's my minimum expectation"
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No job is 24 hrs a day. If you can't make time for me it's because you just dont want to. Not because you're busy with work.

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187. "^^^"
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192. "yup."
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its pretty simple. if you're the busy one, you figure out some time for the person you want time with.

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178. "Listening to Insecure playlist on Spotify..."
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I was dancing waiting on line to get into Trader Joe’s today... LOL!

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185. "music supervisors (Kier Lehman and Issa) be killing it for sure."
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189. "My wife has NEVER seen Awkward Black Girl"
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We've been talking about Issa lately esp after seeing 'The Photograph'. Wife mentioned she had never seen ABG so we watched a few episodes

man.

that show has NOT aged well.

at. all.

But, you can see how it fit the time really well.

It had some really good jokes and concepts but the production, acting and writing got in the way of its greatness.

You could see the bones of Insecure in ABG.

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191. "I’d be scared to watch it. I used to love ABG, but besides a few "
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Similarities they are completely different shows

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194. "Wtf did you expect? It’s a 10y/o web series produced on a college..."
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student’s budget mostly.

Did you think it was going to be on par with the shit she’s doing on HBO?

  

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195. "Lmao"
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196. "E5: Lowkey Movin’ On. Thoughts?"
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198. "My thoughts: "
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Likes:

So great seeing Thug Yoda and loved the back and forth between Issa’s brother and Kelli. Too funny!

Love that she randomly decided to be British and had to stick to it. That truly is some shit I would do LOL.

Line of the night to me was Derek’s “STFU”—so over the top but so perfect for a sleep deprived parent lol.

I wonder if they are setting Tiffany up for having postpartum depression.

I liked that the Block Party was successful overall, that’s good.

Dislikes:

Not liking Condola’s scene. Just seems very unprofessional of her to dip because of a personal problem and I don’t think showing up day-of makes up for it.

Also I don’t fault Molly for snapping on Issa, yes her event is very important to her but Issa was wrong to go around her and it’s extra shitty she involved a nigga she hasn’t talked to in ages to do it, totally proves the point of her being a user.

I’m happy they had the scene where Andrew and Molly hug, shows you moving forward that what needs to be repaired is just Issa and Molly, not them PLUS Andrew and Molly.

But yeah, I think Issa was wrong to go to Andrew, and she KNEW it would be a messy situation once Molly found out, no matter when she found out, and the fact that Issa didn’t think to care that far ahead to realize there would be big beef again shows she’s a user that only thinks about herself and how she can get ahead, not about the feelings of others (another example: she obviously didn’t care that she would put Andrew in an awkward position and in the middle, she only cared about what she could get out of him regarding his connections).

  

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200. "RE: My thoughts: "
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>Likes:
>
>So great seeing Thug Yoda and loved the back and forth between
>Issa’s brother and Kelli. Too funny!

Yeah Amal and Kelli are always hilarious, I wouldn't be surprised if they messed around or it comes out they did in the past lol

>Love that she randomly decided to be British and had to stick
>to it. That truly is some shit I would do LOL.

but dude Kelli was with was dumb af anyway did he really say BOA was a branch of the government?

>Line of the night to me was Derek’s “STFU”—so over the
>top but so perfect for a sleep deprived parent lol.
>
>I wonder if they are setting Tiffany up for having postpartum
>depression.

yeah overall I could see Derek and Tiffany's "perfect" relationship having some issues

>I liked that the Block Party was successful overall, that’s
>good.
>
>Dislikes:
>
>Not liking Condola’s scene. Just seems very unprofessional
>of her to dip because of a personal problem and I don’t
>think showing up day-of makes up for it.

yeah that whole thing was weird I wonder if she was still working and doing stuff behind the scenes without talking to Issa.

>Also I don’t fault Molly for snapping on Issa, yes her event
>is very important to her but Issa was wrong to go around her
>and it’s extra shitty she involved a nigga she hasn’t
>talked to in ages to do it, totally proves the point of her
>being a user.

agree 100% but for whatever reason a lot of women I know don't see it that way lol

>I’m happy they had the scene where Andrew and Molly hug,
>shows you moving forward that what needs to be repaired is
>just Issa and Molly, not them PLUS Andrew and Molly.

I still thing Andrew is a playa and got some other stuff going on lol

>But yeah, I think Issa was wrong to go to Andrew, and she KNEW
>it would be a messy situation once Molly found out, no matter
>when she found out, and the fact that Issa didn’t think to
>care that far ahead to realize there would be big beef again
>shows she’s a user that only thinks about herself and how
>she can get ahead, not about the feelings of others (another
>example: she obviously didn’t care that she would put Andrew
>in an awkward position and in the middle, she only cared about
>what she could get out of him regarding his connections).

I agree that Issa is a user that thinks she can treat her friends any kind of way then still expect them to be there for her whenever she needs something. I know people like that IRL lol.

Also when Issa is focused on something it seems like she literally blacks out on everything else, did she ever get the water at her building fixed? lol

  

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207. "I think there's plenty of blame to go around between Issa and Molly."
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I definitely think Issa is selfish and narcissistic but that ain't new.

I also see both sides of the use Andrew argument. Issa needed help so she got it, but Molly felt like Issa went around her.

I get it.

But really what this was about was a friendship that's going through some things, and this was a tipping point. In another context, it might not have been that big a deal.

Seems to me that they are both maturing and don't know how to build a friendship as their new, more mature selves since they were so codependent.

  

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237. "Everything is bad lol"
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Not really but here are my only thoughts

I think Molly's unwillingness to help was, on top of the resentment that was growing, rooted in a lack of faith in Issa's ability to pull the block party off, which is why she didn't want her or her mans to have anything to do w its success or failure. It seemed that while they were at the event, before that moment, to some extent she gained trust in Issa as a person again

Although I didn't agree w the boundary Molly set, she did set it. I don't entirely agree w Issa doing it the way she did, but she had exhausted all known resources, and as someone who has planned smaller scale events before, I can't completely be mad at her for doing it the way she did. It makes it even more weird that it was only a matter of Andrew sending an email (which Molly probably would've known had she at least tried to bring it up, but that's neither here nor there at this point).

Molly confronting her right then and there was wayyyyy out of pocket. Although Issa has been known to be a "user" in the past, I don't think it was fair to call her one in this instance. Calling someone in that event planning space a user is a slippery slope that seems to imply that you're "using" anyone you're not paying (IMO)

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197. "E5: Lowkey Movin' On thoughts..."
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One, women are hella messy lol

Also think it was low key shady for Issa to go Andrew through Nathan after Molly told her no at the same time I feel like Molly overreacted.

  

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199. "I have a show and by any means necessary I’m getting a headliner. "
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201. "also, Issa exhausted EVERY outlet on her own."
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if that's your BEST friend and you want them to succeed, you link them with Andrew, relationship or not.

that's why Issa went the back channels to Andrew because she felt like Molly gave her a fuck you first by just not linking it in the first place.

BUT, like I said WAY above, Molly is a bum ass friend who hates on her creative friends because she wants to be free like them.

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202. "fuck that Issa is a user and was basically "done" with Molly before..."
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until she needed her then she hit her up like "hey bestie can you do this for me?" I don't blame Molly for saying no. I hate wishy-wash ass people like that who only reach out when they need something from you.

  

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204. "Come to think of it.. Issa has been using everyone "
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Mon May-11-20 11:14 AM by legsdiamond

          

damn near all of her interactions are using people to get what she needs.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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atruhead
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213. "yall regularly come on here being loud and wrong"
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Issa has never come off as a user just because she was struggling and receiving help from people who she thought had her back

  

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PROMO
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223. "right? i've had plenty of friends who may not have it all together..."
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and they've gone to me for help, advice, even money.

i never once thought or felt like they were using me.

if i did, why are we friends?

you supposed to help your friends, and vice versa.

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ThaTruth
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226. "if you watch the "Wine Down" after the show Issa herself actually..."
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says some of the exact same things lol

  

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legsdiamond
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Mon May-11-20 08:06 PM

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242. "some people root hard of Issa’s character"
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so they don’t see her flaws.

or maybe some people just wired different when it comes to friendships and relationships.

Cause these 2 are the same one who didn’t think Issa chilling with Condola after she found out she was dating Lawrence. Which I don’t think anyone would actually do IRL unless they were messy or desperate for a friendship

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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