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"Biden accused of sexual assault"


          

https://m.soundcloud.com/katie-halper/joe-bidens-accuser-finally-tells-her-full-story

some background https://theintercept.com/2020/03/24/joe-biden-metoo-times-up/

this is after 8 women accused him of inappropriate behaviour last spring

she recently went to tell her story and "The public relations firm that works on behalf of the Time’s Up Legal Defense Fund is SKDKnickerbocker, whose managing director, Anita Dunn, is the top adviser to Biden’s presidential campaign."

this is on top of the groping of young children that has been out there for years and everyone seems happy to ignore

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Joe Beenhidin
Mar 25th 2020
1
what do you want to have happen at this point?
Mar 25th 2020
2
theres no strategic endgame. just scorched earth.
Mar 25th 2020
3
Bern treats AOC like a clingy sidepiece (c) you
Mar 25th 2020
7
i Notice you didn’t answer the question. What is the end goal now?
Mar 25th 2020
29
The goal is to get him to address these issues now...before the general
Mar 25th 2020
37
      It is interesting, isn't it?
Mar 25th 2020
55
      Other goals are to not repeat the mistakes of 2015-16...right...?
Mar 26th 2020
85
      FWIW (like nothing) biden said non-consensual kiss was not ill intended
Mar 26th 2020
83
Is it facts though?
Mar 25th 2020
32
      Is Creepy Joe Biden a fact?
Mar 25th 2020
38
      You're seriously asking if Bernie is treating AOC like a clingy side-pie...
Mar 25th 2020
48
I can't call it man. Denial?
Mar 25th 2020
18
^^^
Mar 25th 2020
27
RE: what do you want to have happen at this point?
Mar 25th 2020
4
in context of the election, what do you want to happen?
Mar 25th 2020
15
you say this like it's not possible!
Mar 25th 2020
9
lol
Mar 25th 2020
20
if we are being REAL Democrats about it....
Mar 30th 2020
153
Ban this shit troll account
Mar 25th 2020
5
Looking into it.
Mar 25th 2020
10
Thank you.
Mar 25th 2020
28
Disagreeing isn't trolling
Mar 25th 2020
11
Real person who ONLY posts bernie talking points with weak links
Mar 25th 2020
12
      The Intercept is a weak source?
Mar 25th 2020
13
      Is soundcloud? Look at all of them if you're researching, not just one.
Mar 25th 2020
14
           For a post on a message board?
Mar 25th 2020
17
                The opinion is fine. This behavior isn't.
Mar 25th 2020
19
                     Is this behavior fine (link)?
Mar 25th 2020
22
                          Can you think of a difference between Vex and reaction?
Mar 25th 2020
24
                               you've had several members here claim reaction is an alias
Mar 25th 2020
49
                                    Definitely subjective. But necessary.
Mar 25th 2020
50
                                    I agree. It's a judgment call - and I think OKP does a great job
Mar 25th 2020
54
                                    Also here's me confirming Vex is not reaction.
Mar 25th 2020
51
                                    ive mostly done it in jest
Mar 26th 2020
73
      .
Mar 25th 2020
16
      As mentioned, the Intercept isn't a "weak" source
Mar 25th 2020
21
           I mean all of his links. As in all of his posts.
Mar 25th 2020
23
                You made the accusation *here*
Mar 25th 2020
25
                     The search function is easy to use.
Mar 25th 2020
30
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Mar 26th 2020
68
it's really interesting that someone would create an account in fall 201...
Mar 25th 2020
52
      Right. Let's not stick our heads in the sand. It's not complicated.
Mar 25th 2020
53
      Right. And like Trip said *only* post about one singular thing.
Mar 25th 2020
60
      I'll just say this....
Mar 26th 2020
63
           Woke AI
Mar 26th 2020
64
           If I were saying dude's a russian bot
Mar 26th 2020
65
           I mean, we did used to have Activist here
Mar 26th 2020
118
                it's combined with the factor of showing up in 2020.
Apr 23rd 2020
316
           RE: I'll just say this....
Mar 26th 2020
70
                We're really not just a bunch of targets for your opinion.
Mar 26th 2020
75
                     LOL
Mar 26th 2020
81
did he "grab em by the pussy"?
Mar 25th 2020
6
what are y'all gonna do when Bernie endorses him
Mar 25th 2020
8
cry in the car
Mar 25th 2020
58
lmfao
Mar 26th 2020
67
pray Never Trump Republican voters listen
Mar 26th 2020
98
people don't care and there are too many agendas, especially here
Mar 25th 2020
26
People may not care but it's not because they don't know
Mar 25th 2020
31
"child molesting biden video"
Mar 25th 2020
33
      what do you call this?
Mar 25th 2020
34
           desperate
Mar 25th 2020
35
           Oh yeah, yall crazy.
Mar 25th 2020
36
                man, this too. fuck
Mar 25th 2020
39
                so ya'll really gonna pretend this didn't happen
Mar 25th 2020
40
                if u guys really believe biden's a chomo, how could you support Bernie?
Mar 25th 2020
41
                You’re deflecting.
Mar 25th 2020
44
                     you no longer support Bernie?
Mar 25th 2020
45
                Yeah no, I don't think this video captures him....I can't even type it.
Mar 25th 2020
42
                     That video was mad awkward. Wtf
Mar 25th 2020
56
                          I said it was awkward. But you believe Biden was like, "let me squeeze t...
Mar 26th 2020
66
                               i dont believe those dudes announce it to themselves
Mar 26th 2020
72
                                    i totally agree some of the time it's probably subconscious
Mar 26th 2020
84
                                    Stop man. Staring at a fat ass is not the same as grabbing a strangers
Mar 26th 2020
86
                                         Smh.. stop being lazy fam
Mar 27th 2020
127
                maybe you need more context
Mar 25th 2020
43
                     So how does it work? Are the parents part of the cover-up conspiracy?
Mar 25th 2020
46
                          and commit career suicide?
Mar 25th 2020
47
                               In the north? Man.. cmon. This shit happens everywhere.
Mar 25th 2020
57
yeah, yeah...whatevs
Mar 25th 2020
59
156 posts
Mar 26th 2020
61
And? Trump tried to force himself on a reporter
Mar 26th 2020
62
this post should live
Mar 26th 2020
69
Most Dems are totally cool with pretending Joe Biden isnt a creep...
Mar 26th 2020
71
Hey - this guy is real - but COME ON
Mar 26th 2020
74
c'mon you can't be this silly....
Mar 26th 2020
76
      Hey - you said he's a KNOWN RAPIST
Mar 26th 2020
104
           a women's sexual assault = propaganda? i feel bad for you.
Mar 27th 2020
125
Let's see if Bernie hates Bernie enough to let it slide
Mar 26th 2020
77
      eventually we'll have to hold our noses yet again...
Mar 26th 2020
79
      I guess that's right. Bernie must be in on the conspiracy because he
Mar 26th 2020
87
I'm voting for whoever is running against Trump, but
Mar 26th 2020
78
^^^ all of this
Apr 14th 2020
222
Interview with the accuser on The Hill
Mar 26th 2020
80
talking with liberals about politics is a waste of time
Mar 26th 2020
82
RE: talking with liberals about politics is a waste of time
Mar 26th 2020
88
Bernie was dragged through the media for weeks...
Mar 26th 2020
90
Yall really only see things through the eyes of how Bernie Sanders was
Mar 26th 2020
91
      RE: Yall really only see things through the eyes of how Bernie Sanders w...
Mar 26th 2020
101
           Then bring up the ideas not the man.
Mar 26th 2020
106
                Anytime we say Bernie we are talking about the movement...
Mar 26th 2020
108
                     Everytime you say Bernie people hear Bernie Sanders
Mar 26th 2020
117
True, but this is way bigger than Sanders tho
Mar 26th 2020
94
they'd rather call people like you 'Russian agents' or 'Trump supporters...
Mar 26th 2020
96
People see out of touch grandpa, not secret pedophile.
Mar 26th 2020
107
      People see out of touch grandpa, and ignore the pedophile.
Mar 26th 2020
109
      RE: People see out of touch grandpa, not secret pedophile.
Mar 26th 2020
110
           Good luck man.
Mar 26th 2020
115
Bernie simply got in the presidential game too late
Mar 26th 2020
89
Bernie only got as big as he is because of Hillary
Mar 26th 2020
103
      I was uncertain this was the case until Super Tuesday.
Mar 26th 2020
113
^^^^
Mar 26th 2020
92
Word to all of this.
Mar 26th 2020
121
this was a refreshing read
Mar 27th 2020
134
The fact this isn't getting traction on the conservative site I lurk...
Mar 26th 2020
93
it'll happen if Biden officially gets the nom
Mar 26th 2020
97
DNC fucked up
Mar 26th 2020
95
BRUH. If you are an ideological Democrat
Mar 26th 2020
99
      How does anyone have the capacity to still be infruiated with politics
Mar 26th 2020
100
           Because whether or not you're infuriated, politics still happen to you
Mar 26th 2020
102
                Are you Black?
Mar 26th 2020
105
                     Whut.
Mar 26th 2020
111
                          Scorecard: Deflections so far...the black card
Mar 26th 2020
112
                          RE: Scorecard: Deflections so far...+1, Trumpster did it too
Mar 27th 2020
124
                          Ok then, then you know the time
Mar 26th 2020
116
                          Yeah, you're completely full of shit
Mar 26th 2020
119
                               Nobody is asking you not to stay engaged
Mar 26th 2020
123
                          Niggas want Trump gone fam
Mar 27th 2020
128
                               It wasn't even like that
Mar 27th 2020
132
Biden: presume a woman is truthful when alleging sex assault
Mar 26th 2020
114
smh @ the virtuous OKPs turning a blind-eye to sexual assault allegation...
Mar 26th 2020
120
Happens every time
Mar 27th 2020
126
      My track record is consistent. Yall telling me yall now Believe All Wome...
Mar 28th 2020
142
      that selective concern cuts both ways
Mar 28th 2020
146
As long as the serial grabber is still in office....
Mar 26th 2020
122
I'll say it, what's strange about Tara Reade's account is that she did n...
Mar 27th 2020
129
if only yall actually tried with black voters
Mar 27th 2020
130
Exactly. If these cats reached out like Joe Biden
Mar 27th 2020
131
      They’ll cancel KHart for gay jokes
Mar 27th 2020
133
      imagine being this much of a liar and a loser
Mar 27th 2020
136
      those damn theys
Mar 27th 2020
137
      always theying up the joint.
Mar 27th 2020
138
      LOLOL exactly.
Mar 27th 2020
139
           It's okay to play R Kelly again (c) Joe Buddens reparations policy
Mar 29th 2020
148
      Just send me the TYT link to what you’re talking about
Mar 28th 2020
143
      smh
Apr 28th 2020
348
      yet black voters showed up for him
Mar 28th 2020
141
Biden denies allegations
Mar 27th 2020
135
#TimesUpBiden #IBelieveTara #UnendorseBiden
Mar 27th 2020
140
when bubbles go into quarantine
Mar 28th 2020
144
those also read like russian bot hashtags
Mar 28th 2020
145
      doesnt matter. no politician has ever survived a negative hashtag flurry
Mar 28th 2020
147
           Maybe enough hastags will win over the black vote
Mar 29th 2020
149
what. a. dumpster. fire.
Mar 30th 2020
150
The lesser of 2...rapists
Mar 30th 2020
151
blue checkmarks back at it again!
Mar 30th 2020
152
Joe Biden is the most publicly creepy man on earth. Are you serious
Mar 30th 2020
154
This should be on a poster, lol
Mar 30th 2020
155
couldn't be me
Mar 30th 2020
156
Rofl
Apr 11th 2020
166
Tara Reade files criminal complaint over 1993 allegation
Apr 10th 2020
157
Given that the statute of limitations has passed, how does
Apr 10th 2020
158
is this what the claim is? I can't listen to a podcast
Apr 10th 2020
159
      The lady says he forcibly peneratrated her in 1993
Apr 11th 2020
160
           It's ok to say that you're still voting for Biden over Trump
Apr 11th 2020
161
                Yes
Apr 11th 2020
162
                the current accuser changed her story:
Apr 11th 2020
163
                Every point addressed here
Apr 11th 2020
165
                this was a nice touch:
Apr 11th 2020
167
                Wow
Apr 28th 2020
349
                I never said "sexual assaults"
Apr 11th 2020
168
                since we are posting defintions:
Apr 11th 2020
173
                     literally all of them described sexual harassment
Apr 12th 2020
183
                Literally all of those women you referenced
Apr 12th 2020
184
                fam if you consider them serious then why do you need to embellish?
Apr 11th 2020
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                     Let me help you sort this out since you don't know the law
Apr 11th 2020
169
                          you seem to be confusing yourself .
Apr 11th 2020
170
                               The law regarding sexual harassment is clear. This ain't hard fam.
Apr 11th 2020
171
                                    youre debating the nuances of sexual harassment with the women
Apr 11th 2020
172
                                    He has been accused of sexual assault; action has been filed
Apr 11th 2020
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                                         i never said "sexual assaults" (c) vex
Apr 11th 2020
176
                                              Lots of messiness and editing posts to try and nuance your way out
Apr 11th 2020
177
                                                   ah ok so you cant read. i shouldnt have assumed you could.
Apr 11th 2020
178
                                                        doubling down on being big mad & wrong ain't the look, playboy
Apr 12th 2020
181
                                    You've run out of gas, try another approach
Apr 11th 2020
175
easiest job in the world right now? Brad Parscale
Apr 12th 2020
179
NYT walks back its "imprecise language" re: Biden's sexual misconduct
Apr 12th 2020
180
All he had to do was not molest women.
Apr 12th 2020
182
old white men are creepy. but that's all y'all want to support
Apr 13th 2020
185
AP News: Former Senate staffer accuses Biden of sexual assault
Apr 13th 2020
186
on 45's payroll
Apr 13th 2020
187
It the “who raped less” election. Smh
Apr 13th 2020
188
What female VP pick would side with this creep??
Apr 13th 2020
189
RE: AP News: Former Senate staffer accuses Biden of sexual assault
Apr 13th 2020
190
drop out because of a random suspect accusation?
May 22nd 2020
575
So...we believe Dr Ford...but not Tara Reade...?
Apr 14th 2020
191
we've all pivoted to the general
Apr 14th 2020
192
...and you can’t foresee how sweeping this under the rug now...
Apr 14th 2020
193
      Files of oppo research and vetting hysteria for days for Sanders
Apr 14th 2020
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      imma let you two have your (continued) vent session
Apr 14th 2020
195
           At no point will they ever stop
Apr 14th 2020
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           its so frustrating
Apr 14th 2020
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           yup...Biden IS awful.....so how did Bernie get his ass kicked?
Apr 14th 2020
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           The fourth estate is public enemy #1
Apr 14th 2020
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                they were always gonna be the enemy to yall
Apr 14th 2020
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           It mirrors Hillary's refusal to accept any responsibility for 2016.
Apr 14th 2020
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           those damn "theys"
Apr 14th 2020
206
                Him: You two, Me: They, Implicit - the two being responded to
Apr 14th 2020
207
                     They'll never stop watching Robert Reich videos
Apr 14th 2020
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                          I don't know what that's supposed to mean
Apr 14th 2020
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           lol you really do have to treat these grown ass people like children.
Apr 14th 2020
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      oh nah its gonna come up again
Apr 14th 2020
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           If you didn’t want to talk about it, why are you here
Apr 14th 2020
199
                The move is to say it's bullshit without saying it's bullshit
Apr 14th 2020
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                ^^^^
Apr 14th 2020
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                     lol.
Apr 14th 2020
219
                I didn't literally mean you and Vex . sheesh
Apr 14th 2020
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Yes.
Apr 14th 2020
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I believe y'all aren't qualified sexual assault investigators
Apr 14th 2020
217
      neither is the New York Times, a 'paper of record'
Apr 14th 2020
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           I don't know what this is about
Apr 14th 2020
220
Allegations aside, that "Creepy Joe" video is hard to watch...
Apr 14th 2020
204
Creepy across the board...
Apr 14th 2020
210
https://youtu.be/5jJ-x1-20ro
Apr 14th 2020
211
"It's not like he's sliding his hand up, going for side boob" -Burr
Apr 14th 2020
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And a well known secret like Weinstein/Cosby
Apr 14th 2020
216
      the way Joes arms moved when he saw the young child
Apr 15th 2020
223
this kind of silencing of all dissent is a form of gaslighting (c) AOC
Apr 15th 2020
224
thenation (surprisingly) calling into question the allegations.
Apr 15th 2020
225
I’m more interested in those who always defend the accuser
Apr 21st 2020
230
Possible second accuser
Apr 21st 2020
226
all the accusers have been and will be shut down...
Apr 21st 2020
227
Shameful...because it would be SO easy to remedy
Apr 21st 2020
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      RE: Shameful...because it would be SO easy to remedy
Apr 21st 2020
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      please don't do the thing where you speak for survivors
Apr 21st 2020
264
           please don't do the assuming thing
Apr 24th 2020
319
                I'll assume whatever the fuck I feel like.
Apr 24th 2020
328
      RE: Shameful...because it would be SO easy to remedy
Apr 22nd 2020
267
      I agree, this is a good idea and he should do that. BUT please
Apr 22nd 2020
270
Can you even vote here?
Apr 21st 2020
229
RE: Can you even vote here?
Apr 21st 2020
231
*waves like Ruby Rhod*
Apr 21st 2020
232
^^ Definition of an Outside Agitator
Apr 21st 2020
234
The outsized priveledge of the dude
Apr 21st 2020
235
      One of thousands
Apr 21st 2020
238
           Eat a dick, I'm not reading all that
Apr 21st 2020
240
           Hell yeah
Apr 21st 2020
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           Name one specific, material, or tangible way he has helped.
Apr 21st 2020
242
                He knocked doors
Apr 21st 2020
244
                     When and where did he canvas.
Apr 21st 2020
247
                          Yes
Apr 21st 2020
249
                               I disagree whole heartedly
Apr 21st 2020
250
           Your white savior complex is gross
Apr 21st 2020
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                you're so misinformed & your homophobic insults don't help you...
Apr 21st 2020
251
                Weird how you just skipped past all of the racial equality stuff
Apr 21st 2020
252
                     i didn't skip anything. Re-read my subject..
Apr 21st 2020
256
                          Yessuh boss. Eyes doing it fuh yuh
Apr 21st 2020
258
                               u told money he can eat a dick because YOU didn't want to read...
Apr 21st 2020
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                               u told money he can eat a dick because YOU didn't want to read...
Apr 21st 2020
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                                    RE: u told money he can eat a dick because YOU didn't want to read...
Apr 21st 2020
262
                                         lol that's some juicy detective work, my friend!
Apr 22nd 2020
266
                and this is why Black voters flocked to Biden
Apr 21st 2020
255
                     Nobody flocked to Biden. People shied away from Sanders
Apr 21st 2020
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                          biden broke turnout records in several states.
Apr 22nd 2020
275
                               2018 papers cited that people are anxious to launch anti trump protest v...
Apr 22nd 2020
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                                    biden was in a primary tho.
Apr 22nd 2020
282
                                         It explains turnout
Apr 22nd 2020
285
                                              clinton/obama had record turnout in 2008.
Apr 22nd 2020
288
I swear these foreigners care more about us
Apr 22nd 2020
271
      Worse was that his message was basically "we need you to lead for us"
Apr 22nd 2020
273
Waaaaaaaait he ain’t even American. And been kicking up all this
Apr 22nd 2020
268
Incredible if Biden never has to answer personally
Apr 21st 2020
236
Pelosi already said she doesn't care
Apr 21st 2020
243
I feel like I've got to hold out hope for an "independent" media
Apr 21st 2020
245
There's def a hypocrisy that will not go unexploited
Apr 21st 2020
246
that's.....increasingly wide ranging speculation
Apr 21st 2020
265
Let's address the Tara Reade accusations like grown up. But....
Apr 21st 2020
237
      She doesn't even go here!
Apr 21st 2020
239
      Right? That's desperate reaching.
Apr 21st 2020
254
Update on Tara Reade complaint
Apr 21st 2020
253
this is the equivalent of HRC’s superpredator comment
Apr 21st 2020
259
If they address it, it legitimizes it
Apr 21st 2020
263
If you refer to Trump as 'Trump' and 'Biden' as 'rapist'
Apr 22nd 2020
269
they boo louder at other dem candidates
Apr 22nd 2020
272
one of the biggest differences between the parties
Apr 22nd 2020
274
      I feel like y’all are just more sensitive to extremist on the left
Apr 22nd 2020
278
           as much as right wing radio nuts will huff and puff over a Romney
Apr 22nd 2020
281
           But what did Romney and McCain win?
Apr 22nd 2020
290
                they didn't have good options
Apr 22nd 2020
304
                     radio or TV personalities on the left told people to stay home
Apr 23rd 2020
311
           the same group of lefties trashed gore, kerry, hillary, and now biden.
Apr 22nd 2020
283
           It isn’t the same group every time tho
Apr 22nd 2020
291
           fam name just *1* notable republican figure
Apr 22nd 2020
293
                Susan Sarandon and Michael Moore?
Apr 22nd 2020
298
                ah you didnt know theyve been part of a larger segment of the left.
Apr 22nd 2020
300
                     Yeah.. they have so much influence.
Apr 22nd 2020
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                          bernie picked them as top campaign surrogates
Apr 22nd 2020
307
                               Bernie lost... time to move on bro
Apr 23rd 2020
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                Bingo
Apr 23rd 2020
312
           the funny part is you're serious
Apr 22nd 2020
296
           ^^^
Apr 22nd 2020
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^^^^^
Apr 22nd 2020
277
!!!!!!!! Call that shit directly the fuck out. Yea, u see it.
Apr 22nd 2020
279
stealing this
Apr 22nd 2020
280
as someone who does care about sexual assault
Apr 22nd 2020
284
over in the lefty bubble...biden has already been doomed
Apr 22nd 2020
286
F*** Biden but this makes me happy
Apr 22nd 2020
287
LOL same. That's an awesome aggregate list.
Apr 22nd 2020
289
Good news but can’t trust polls anymore
Apr 22nd 2020
292
      one big difference from 2016:
Apr 22nd 2020
294
      Do you think he'll hurt from this?
Apr 22nd 2020
295
           they don’t care and that’s obvious, but his base is at most 45%
Apr 22nd 2020
299
           its already hurting him.
Apr 22nd 2020
301
                Glad to hear
Apr 22nd 2020
302
                My concern is whether it'll keep hurting him.
Apr 22nd 2020
305
                     what about the economy tho?
Apr 22nd 2020
308
      especially when they don't validate our opinions
Apr 23rd 2020
313
Bernie LOST.
Apr 22nd 2020
303
Lmao.. Weekend at Bernies part 85 out this bitch
Apr 23rd 2020
310
badly too
Apr 23rd 2020
314
why are you happy about this.
Apr 23rd 2020
315
      How can you discern happiness from that? It’s a two word factual
Apr 23rd 2020
317
           I aint reading that my beautiful black brother. thank you for replying
Apr 24th 2020
318
                lol. Yes fits to type for you and urs. Keep spinning bozo lol
Apr 24th 2020
321
New Evidence Supporting Credibility of Reade’s Allegation
Apr 24th 2020
320
So the press is where you go to report a rape??????
Apr 24th 2020
322
You could at least read the article
Apr 24th 2020
323
yeah, that response/defense was mad Kavanaugh
Apr 24th 2020
324
Cats out here citing Twitter & Morning Joe as their authority
Apr 24th 2020
326
damn you sound like MAGA cats defending Kavanaugh
Apr 24th 2020
325
      Fuck you and your BOTH SIDES bullshit
Apr 24th 2020
327
           Lmao I’m entertained - but do seek help.
Apr 25th 2020
329
           just win bro
Apr 25th 2020
331
           Rape and politics.. smh
Apr 25th 2020
330
                Yuuuup
Apr 25th 2020
333
                     Wut?
Apr 28th 2020
347
The intercept should post the full transcript
Apr 25th 2020
332
      What are your top 5 concerns right today?
Apr 26th 2020
334
           That’s not necessarily true
Apr 26th 2020
335
                The Intercept and NYT are fake news (c) You
Apr 26th 2020
336
                     Neither the Intercept nor NY Times are fake
Apr 26th 2020
337
Wait until those people found out about how she treated that horse.
Apr 26th 2020
338
This is looking ugly
Apr 28th 2020
339
I have no cognitive dissonance thinking Trump is probably a rapist given
Apr 28th 2020
340
...
Apr 28th 2020
341
why did her brother change his story?
Apr 28th 2020
342
How much coverage would you say the media is giving this?
Apr 28th 2020
343
as viciously as they went after trump when?
Apr 28th 2020
344
Yikes are you a trump sympathizer? Or just misusing the word viciously?
Apr 28th 2020
345
      Sorry, meant vigorously, not viciously!
Apr 29th 2020
371
           avenatti being on TV is not an example of media going after trump
Apr 29th 2020
372
           Yes.
Apr 29th 2020
375
           *boop**boop**award alarm* you wrote ‘cognitive decline’ 1,000 times!...
Apr 29th 2020
376
           lol
Apr 29th 2020
377
           the coverage is extremely different
Apr 30th 2020
380
                Yup. This isn't controversial at all to say this
Apr 30th 2020
384
did Ms. Reade explain why she didn’t release this information after
Apr 28th 2020
346
Did Dr. Blasey Ford explain why she waited for Kavanaugh's nomination
Apr 29th 2020
350
      She came forward in private to the Senate
Apr 29th 2020
351
      And she decided to come forward to testify in public against Kavanaugh
Apr 29th 2020
353
           You asked why did she wait to come forward
Apr 29th 2020
356
                No - I'm asking for consistent logic when it comes to analyzing this
Apr 29th 2020
359
      It would have been to her benefit to do so. Now Biden has the nom
Apr 29th 2020
352
      See my tweet above you.
Apr 29th 2020
355
      I don't think this actually serves Reade (just as it didn't serve Ford)
Apr 29th 2020
358
           I’m not talking about the first 3 primaries, I’m talking about SC & ...
Apr 29th 2020
364
                I hear you on that.
Apr 29th 2020
368
      Like I sad with Kavannaugh
Apr 29th 2020
354
      She was outted. She didn't come forward publically until her name
Apr 29th 2020
357
      RE: Did Dr. Blasey Ford explain why she waited for Kavanaugh's nominatio...
Apr 29th 2020
360
      I have no problem distinguishing Reade from Ford
Apr 29th 2020
361
           I'm hesitant to invalidate a woman's sexual assault accusation
Apr 29th 2020
362
                I hear your concern about credibility bias but sometime there is no othe...
Apr 30th 2020
381
                     You have always been consistent in your approach to this topic
Apr 30th 2020
383
Even if Biden IS a rapist, so is DT! Those are the choices! Deal with it...
Apr 29th 2020
363
LMAO.. i guess we're reaching the acceptance stage of this.
Apr 29th 2020
365
that wording was jarring but do you think someone besides Biden
Apr 29th 2020
367
      i actually do.. i'm thinking Trump wins and then resigns....
May 01st 2020
398
There it is. But that's not how this is being portrayed.
Apr 29th 2020
366
I would vote for a wet rock over DT. I would vote for used toilet paper....
Apr 29th 2020
369
and, now more fantasyland shit
Apr 30th 2020
379
The spin on OKP is sad as shit
Apr 30th 2020
382
      yea - I'm not surprised by much these days - especially here
Apr 30th 2020
385
           Its more so getting rid of Trump
Apr 30th 2020
386
                y'all should DM each other
Apr 30th 2020
387
                RE: Its more so getting rid of Trump
Apr 30th 2020
388
That headline would be a great campaign poster
Apr 29th 2020
373
      It’s called REALITY. At some point we have to grow up and move out...
Apr 29th 2020
374
           Yeah it’s a reality that sucks balls. Hope it convinces swing voters
Apr 29th 2020
378
                This shit (allegedly) was 30 years ago
Apr 30th 2020
389
                     most allegations are 20 to 30 years ago
May 01st 2020
396
I'm really happy to hear that y'all understand accusers
Apr 29th 2020
370
just...waiting for the conversations to start
May 01st 2020
391
Biden to break silence on accusation on Morning Joe Friday
Apr 30th 2020
390
Doubling down is the wrong approach
May 01st 2020
392
      maybe hes innocent?
May 01st 2020
393
           Evidence of past behavior shows thats's very unlikely...
May 01st 2020
397
                i remember the last 10 times you tried this.
May 01st 2020
400
                You're defending a sexual predator with everything you got...
May 01st 2020
405
                So you see they’re unconvincable right?
May 01st 2020
406
                     it's been drop the fuck out from day one..
May 01st 2020
412
                          RE: it's been drop the fuck out from day one..
May 01st 2020
414
                               LMAO, Detective MEAT is back with more juicy info...
May 01st 2020
436
                ^^^ We're suppose to believe he didn't stroke her hair and rub her
May 01st 2020
403
                     Trump doesn’t want to revisit any sexual allegations
May 01st 2020
415
                          Behind the scenes Trump & Biden are actually friendly....
May 01st 2020
434
the line of questioning from mika brzezinski is so stupid.
May 01st 2020
394
especially how she kept pressing him about unsealing files...
May 01st 2020
395
i have an issue with the media at large about stuff like this.
May 01st 2020
399
      there are supposedly 1600 boxes of hardcopy records
May 01st 2020
401
      so biden was at least telling the truth about where a record
May 01st 2020
402
one silver lining to mika grilling him the way she did...
May 01st 2020
404
      Republicans can't backtrack. LOL.
May 01st 2020
407
      lmao you know what i mean.
May 01st 2020
408
      *blinks*
May 01st 2020
410
whats the over/under on barr manufacturing some investigation/probe
May 01st 2020
409
Biden addressed it, so story is probably over now
May 01st 2020
411
sexual misconduct is serious...
May 01st 2020
413
      Joe is a touchy feely guy.. we all seen it over the years
May 01st 2020
416
           pick a side, nigga...
May 01st 2020
418
                LOL!
May 01st 2020
425
                wtf are you talking about?
May 01st 2020
438
                lol
May 01st 2020
447
                LOL his presence is so confusing
May 02nd 2020
453
                Hahaha
May 02nd 2020
456
so tara reade just changed her story *again*
May 01st 2020
417
Oh wow. I’m not tryna minimize her but sis ain’t exactly doing
May 01st 2020
419
      she just so happened to change her story another time
May 01st 2020
421
           lmao aaaand you're still pressed & obsessed.
May 01st 2020
423
           this is rich, coming from you
May 01st 2020
424
                of *all* people lol.
May 01st 2020
426
                I wouldn't be surprised if Putin and Tulsi compelled Assange
May 01st 2020
430
                     this is why bernie lost and he stopped fucking with yall lol.
May 01st 2020
431
                I do admire your imagination
May 01st 2020
429
                     Lmaooo, reply 368 in this *same* post. You said many alternatives
May 01st 2020
432
                          damn seriously what happened to vex?
May 01st 2020
433
                          It’s astonishing.....and funny.
May 01st 2020
435
                               i hope that brother gets help when this election is over.
May 01st 2020
440
                          lol you guys really need help.
May 01st 2020
437
           the bernie campaign is making women accuse Biden now. Disgusting.
May 03rd 2020
469
                yea that was one of Reeq's weakest conspiracy theories
May 03rd 2020
470
                your whole life is a conspiracy theory. even bernie debunked you lol.
May 04th 2020
479
                     whatever makes you feel better, playboy.
May 04th 2020
481
                you confused 'bernieworld' for the bernie campaign.
May 04th 2020
478
good piece on skepticism of the allegations from an ex prosecutor
May 01st 2020
420
But have you seen this youtube video, bro?!
May 01st 2020
422
      lol
May 01st 2020
427
the bernard brethren want dems to just sideline biden.
May 01st 2020
428
And another one
May 01st 2020
439
Maybe get a new account.
May 01st 2020
441
story posted on obscure law blog. you post it on okp an hour later.
May 01st 2020
442
batter up, lol
May 01st 2020
443
lol
May 01st 2020
445
There's this new app called Twitter
May 01st 2020
450
      these clowns would read infowars before a progressive source..
May 02nd 2020
454
      its funny how yall think the majority of the party arent real democrats.
May 02nd 2020
455
      any new thoughts on your 'progressive source'?
May 03rd 2020
466
           any first thoughts on the Biden videos??
May 04th 2020
482
      This new app you were telling us about is wild
May 03rd 2020
467
one of the more credible sources you've cited recently. *not a complimen...
May 01st 2020
444
they got a pic of the accuser with an instagram filter lol.
May 01st 2020
446
      i miss the days of street teamers like 'such and such MC is fire!'
May 01st 2020
449
           yeah blue maga just desperately pushing anything out there
May 03rd 2020
461
ban this mfka
May 01st 2020
448
unthinkable. It's not like there's footage of him being creepy
May 02nd 2020
451
176 posts... still a fuckin pussy
May 02nd 2020
452
Grand opening, grand closing
May 03rd 2020
457
yup. an abcnews reporter ran with the story and had to debunk it
May 03rd 2020
458
let's be clear about a couple of things
May 03rd 2020
459
blue maga is just driving people away from the progressive movement
May 03rd 2020
460
      RE: blue maga is just driving people away from the progressive movement
May 03rd 2020
463
           unfortunately.
May 03rd 2020
465
the question is how many on the dumb dumb left will fall
May 03rd 2020
471
      even bernie disowned these people. they need to disown themselves.
May 04th 2020
480
RE: Grand opening, grand closing
May 04th 2020
477
      so now yall tryna drag up allegations of allegations
May 05th 2020
484
fyi: that site just deleted the 'article'.
May 03rd 2020
464
now theyre saying it happened in 2007 instead of 2008.
May 03rd 2020
468
Christine “I’m Not A Witch” O’Donnell’s lie about her niece de...
May 03rd 2020
462
Can we just archive this thread now?
May 03rd 2020
472
Troll shit lives forever bro
May 03rd 2020
473
No, fuck that.
May 03rd 2020
474
      RE: No, fuck that.
May 03rd 2020
475
           tell the victim to move on.. i wonder where i've heard that before?
May 05th 2020
487
Gosh, where'd everybody go?
May 04th 2020
476
morning joe laying out the facts (incl. developments from the weekend)
May 05th 2020
483
The Attacks on Tara Reade are Unbelievable Bullshit
May 05th 2020
485
Straight used the Mark Furhman excuse for her Putin praise
May 05th 2020
486
they would not do this is if the accusations were against a Republican
May 06th 2020
488
      they defended brett kavanaugh.
May 06th 2020
489
      It’s a slippery slope...
May 06th 2020
490
gonna be fun watching the bernard brethren champion
May 07th 2020
491
they'll just ignore it
May 08th 2020
499
I believe Tara Reade. I'm voting for Biden anyway (NYT)
May 07th 2020
492
pretty much a nail in the coffin to #metoo. But at least she's honest
May 07th 2020
493
      Exactly. I appreciated the intellectual honesty
May 07th 2020
494
Ok I’m not longer Team I Believe Tara
May 07th 2020
495
she also skipped out on interviews with major networks
May 08th 2020
496
From that same article
May 08th 2020
498
Yup. Folks are being ignorant on purpose
May 08th 2020
510
Read the story from the journalist who interviewed her a year ago.
May 08th 2020
505
      I think that's a good point:
May 08th 2020
507
      Her and her Ppl were adamant there was no sexual assault. And yes
May 08th 2020
512
my thing is why is she coming forward NOW? dude was in the White House.....
May 08th 2020
497
This also applies to Kavanaugh, Weinstein & Epstein
May 08th 2020
500
Which accusations? (I understand there is no PERFECT VICTIM)
May 08th 2020
502
Even if Tara Reade's sexual assault accusations turned out to be a lie
May 08th 2020
508
^^^^^the american public deserved to know about an allegation
May 08th 2020
513
She called for him to DROP OUT OF THE RACE YESTERDAY
May 08th 2020
515
Meh.
May 08th 2020
501
      RE: Meh.
May 08th 2020
503
      So if Sanders had won would she have taken this to the grave?
May 08th 2020
504
           I dunno, ask her. My point is that this is a disingenuous, lazy, ...
May 08th 2020
506
                My point is he was VP of the US for 8 years, folks tried to dig up...
May 08th 2020
509
                     you're grasping like hell
May 08th 2020
511
                     did they really try to dig up stuff on Biden in 2007?
May 08th 2020
529
sanders supporters still don’t get that they aren’t credible advocat...
May 08th 2020
514
girl get off that myopic "everyone who doesnt agree is a bernie bro" ish
May 08th 2020
516
      ^^^case in point. Lol @ girl too. I’m going to happily vote for Biden
May 08th 2020
518
      "girl" wasn't a jab at you. i dont know you.
May 12th 2020
559
      mad homophobic @ girl
May 08th 2020
522
      Their true colors will continue to show. Rabid
May 08th 2020
525
      I call everyone that.
May 12th 2020
558
      basic as fuck, right?
May 08th 2020
526
      ^^^transparent and dumb as fuck. Bernie supporter.
May 08th 2020
528
           haven't mentioned Sanders since he quit
May 09th 2020
534
           .
May 09th 2020
555
      These the same poeple that questioned Mayor Pete being gay too
May 09th 2020
535
           what.
May 12th 2020
560
tara reade was arrested for check fraud and forced to resign days later.
May 08th 2020
517
Wow. Pick a new hero Bernie bros
May 08th 2020
519
Any verification of this yet?
May 08th 2020
520
reade lied about contacting kamala harris office about the allegations
May 08th 2020
523
That this unhinged conspiracy mongering has been shared...
May 08th 2020
527
whoaaaaa
May 09th 2020
537
damn even michael tracey calling out 'progressives'.
May 08th 2020
521
trump believes the charges are false.
May 08th 2020
524
Why would Trump push this accusation when he has so many?
May 08th 2020
530
Trump and Michael Tracey don't find her credible
May 09th 2020
540
dont act like michael tracey aint your boy now lol.
May 09th 2020
546
lol you seem to give dude a lot of attention
May 09th 2020
548
      oh no doubt.
May 09th 2020
550
ohhhh, now it's not ok to have michael tracey agreeing with your analysi...
May 16th 2020
569
Yup! First thing I thought.
May 09th 2020
541
hunter biden? bill clinton accusers?
May 09th 2020
542
      It's like people have fucking Memento disease
May 09th 2020
547
           i cant even call it anymore fam.
May 09th 2020
549
old ass birds of a feather...
May 09th 2020
532
Not sure why y’all continue to pick her apart
May 08th 2020
531
They’ve only got 7 more to go
May 09th 2020
533
yeah we're not allowed to look for credibility or accuracy
May 09th 2020
536
Your whoaa’s and lol are so educational.
May 09th 2020
538
legit question:
May 09th 2020
544
werent you just criticizing ‘believe all women’?
May 09th 2020
545
Yes... I never thought it was a good idea for Dems to play that card
May 09th 2020
552
It's simple. They filling out the Rape Apologist bingo card for NOTHING
May 12th 2020
561
Damn Megyn did a good ass interview I gotta give it to her...
May 09th 2020
539
really? she changed her story *again*.
May 09th 2020
543
welp
May 09th 2020
551
^^Didn't you agree with Megyn that blackface was fine though???
May 09th 2020
553
      Nigga what?
May 09th 2020
554
           lol... does he have receipts or nah?
May 10th 2020
556
surprised to see fox news reporting this:
May 11th 2020
557
#nevertrump or bust
May 12th 2020
562
I am confused by this. I have seen described as she was going to be
May 12th 2020
563
This Obama gate stuff
May 12th 2020
564
clearly.
May 12th 2020
565
What 74 former Biden staffers think ..... (PBS swipe)
May 15th 2020
566
We beat you by 9
May 15th 2020
567
kind giving the game away
May 15th 2020
568
Weird how these defenses actually include sexual harassment
May 16th 2020
570
      lol right?
May 16th 2020
571
      Joe is the homie that's just too physically friendly
May 22nd 2020
574
yeah this is probably a wrap. she a proven liar and her lawyer dropped h...
May 22nd 2020
572
the reporting over the past week about her has been brutal.
May 22nd 2020
573
honest question: does anyone on here still believe her?
May 22nd 2020
576
where was she at in 2008?
May 22nd 2020
577
RE: honest question: does anyone on here still believe her?
May 22nd 2020
578
over 50% now. what was it before?
May 22nd 2020
580
      probably 75% two months ago to 55% now n/m
May 22nd 2020
582
           thx for the honest answer.
May 23rd 2020
587
sure, w/o some explicit reason not to
May 22nd 2020
579
why do you believe her lawyer dropped her?
May 22nd 2020
581
I have no idea
May 22nd 2020
583
^^One credulous MF'r
May 22nd 2020
584
      so what exactly am I doing incorrectly
May 22nd 2020
585
           You have a default position that s EASILY gamed
May 23rd 2020
586
                i gotta admit i was confused a bit by his stance too.
May 23rd 2020
589
                how can it be confusing when it's always been one thing?
May 24th 2020
593
                     you lost me but thats ok. everything aint meant to be found.
May 24th 2020
603
                          I have one stance. If someone publicly makes an accusation of sexual
May 25th 2020
606
                There's a difference between credulity and belief.
May 23rd 2020
590
                people don't read.
May 24th 2020
594
                answer my question. what did I do.
May 24th 2020
592
                "seems like it is less than credible"
May 24th 2020
595
                also, when we're discussing things that are "easily" gamed
May 24th 2020
596
                     1,2,3,4,5 posts
May 24th 2020
598
                          you've attributed a bunch of things I didn't say to me
May 24th 2020
599
                          I've never said this or said anything like this.
May 24th 2020
600
                          interesting
May 24th 2020
601
                               My LAST response
May 25th 2020
609
                                    LOL. so I'm a chump because I....did what again?
May 25th 2020
610
                                         I BELIEVE YOU.
May 26th 2020
611
                                              see how easy that is? you use my actual words instead of making shit up
May 26th 2020
623
Rape and sexual assault are such interesting allegations...
May 24th 2020
591
      the actual allegation is the most problematic/questionable part imo.
May 24th 2020
604
           it should also be pointed out that ryan grim
May 24th 2020
605
the author who posted tara reade article at thenation recants view.
May 23rd 2020
588
so....it's not confusing to think the charges should be investigated
May 24th 2020
597
      she doesnt find the accuser credible anymore. do you?
May 24th 2020
602
           I think that is a misstatement of her tweet
May 25th 2020
607
Tara's accusations are so clearly false
May 25th 2020
608
Can you give me a recap on why you think they are false?
May 26th 2020
612
      The simplest explanation was up until last year she was affirmatively sa...
May 26th 2020
613
           I don't blame her for not wanting to disclose her sexual assault
May 26th 2020
614
           if that's the thing...then that's not really doing it
May 26th 2020
624
its funny how apparent "lurker accounts" help keep this post afloat
May 26th 2020
615
yup, im a russian bot
May 26th 2020
616
      More likely a troll.
May 26th 2020
617
           fuck the democratic party
May 26th 2020
618
                Okay then, looks like we've established "useful idiot."
May 26th 2020
619
                     i like how you just assume criticizing the democratic frontrunner
May 26th 2020
620
                          Democratic nominee.
May 26th 2020
621
                               RE: Democratic nominee.
May 26th 2020
622
man the brogressives bout to get this woman locked up smh.
May 26th 2020
625
Sexual violence & trauma expert on rape culture & Joe Biden
May 27th 2020
626
^^^lurker, bot, alias or troll? this post should be archived
May 27th 2020
627
Turns out she's been lying about her undergrad degree for years
May 27th 2020
628

bentagain
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1. "Joe Beenhidin"
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http://www.cc.com/video-clips/284051/chappelle-s-show-black-gallagher

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2. "what do you want to have happen at this point?"
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Wed Mar-25-20 01:37 PM by Stadiq

          

Like, should Biden drop out, admit the 'centrist coup', and endorse Bernie?


Now that Democratic voters have made their preference clear, what would you like to see happen?

Should all the votes that were cast for Biden be discarded/ignored?


Should the party step in and nominate someone else?


What should happen in your mind?


Honest questions.


I get you're upset/disappointed/whatever.


So lay it out for us. What do you think should happen?

  

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3. "theres no strategic endgame. just scorched earth."
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bidens nomination is imminent.

they know this.

its pretty obvious at this point. biden is winning states by a 2:1 ratio and bernie is fortunate to clear 30% in a lot of places.

they just wanna keep tarnishing him to the point that he hopefully (for them) loses the general. so they can 'i told you so' for another 4 years while also crying about the hell trump/repubs continue to unleash (that could have been prevented by them just acting like adults on 1 single november day and supporting the dem nominee).

theyre like trump supporters in that way. they wanna see anything outside of their ideological/cultural flock crash and burn. doesnt even matter if it harms them in the grand scheme of things.

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7. "Bern treats AOC like a clingy sidepiece (c) you"
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Someone posts facts, critical to Biden

...and it’s scorched earth...

LOL

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29. "i Notice you didn’t answer the question. What is the end goal now? "
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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37. "The goal is to get him to address these issues now...before the general"
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Wed Mar-25-20 04:47 PM by bentagain

  

          

He needs to have better responses...than just denial

His role in the Iraq War...was more than just a vote
These sexual assaults...happened...some on camera
His relationships with staunch racists/segregationists
The FBI raid on his brother
Hunter

I mean...for fucks sake...he's a senator from Delaware...a tax haven on the mainland...do we really think he's not in the pocket of big corporations

Etc...

To this point...he has denied any and every critique of his record

That shit ain't gonna play in the general, when the Trumpsters full court press him

He needs to answer for this now.

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55. "It is interesting, isn't it?"
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For Sanders - we had continual talks about the need to subject Bernie to the most aggressive oppo research and vet him like a Fox News pundit -- but for Biden (who hasn't seriously been vetted because nobody even took him seriously for *months* prior to S. Carolina) - the mere mention of legitimate skepticism or critique triggers claims of foul play.

If they think reaction posting an Intercept article raising a legitimate concern on Biden's record is bad/unfair - they ain't even close to being ready for what TrumpLand USA is bout to unleash on Joey B.

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85. "Other goals are to not repeat the mistakes of 2015-16...right...?"
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There should have been better responses when...
HRC was confronted by a group of BLM protesters...and flat dismissed them, on camera
Bill victim blaming screaming on an audience...
HRC dropping the mic and walking out of a presser about butterymails...which became a thug life meme
Etc...

There needs to be better responses now, because these issues will be exploited in the general

You’re full of shit, step outside...or from the post above...I didn’t mean to offend anyone with my non consensual contact...

Same shit

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83. "FWIW (like nothing) biden said non-consensual kiss was not ill intended "
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when he basically did battery / creeped all over former nevada lawmaker Lucy Flores, and tried to apologize to anita hill after decades and massive pressure.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nevada-lawmakers-accuses-joe-biden-inappropriate-touching-kissing/story?id=62055143

"I felt him get closer to me from behind. He leaned further in and inhaled my hair. I was mortified. I thought to myself, 'I didn’t wash my hair today and the vice-president of the United States is smelling it. And also, what in the actual f---? Why is the vice-president of the United States smelling my hair?'” Flores' account continued.

"He proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head. My brain couldn’t process what was happening. I was embarrassed. I was shocked. I was confused," she wrote. "I wanted nothing more than to get Biden away from me. My name was called and I was never happier to get on stage in front of an audience."

Biden issued a statement Sunday in which he said it "was never my intention" to make Flores or another woman feel uncomfortable.

  

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32. "Is it facts though?"
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38. "Is Creepy Joe Biden a fact?"
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Are you fucking serious?

Would you be in the same room as him while social distancing measures are mandated?

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48. "You're seriously asking if Bernie is treating AOC like a clingy side-pie..."
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That might be a hot clickbait YouTube rant video - but facts? lol.

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18. "I can't call it man. Denial?"
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Lack of intelligence, emotional or otherwise?



I get it. I fucking get it. I'm scared that Joe is the nominee. I've been skeptical, and I remain so.

But they have nothing to hang their hats on anymore.

Bernie is the best to beat trump...but he can't beat Biden.

Bernie and his movement can overcome centrist dems, the gop, and the entire healthcare industry...but can't overcome Pete endorsing Joe.

Bernie will inspire huge youth turnout...didn't happen.


etc etc


Everything they said would happen proved wrong. Its shitty to be wrong, but fuck don't just plug your ears, close your eyes, and yell "I can't hear you!"


The movement just wasn't as big/strong as they thought.


Rather than trying to learn and make it bigger, they are going about the same tactics that turned people away to begin with.


And, in the context of organge trumpolini in charge of a major fucking crisis (on top of all the other horrific things), they are still unable to pivot and focus.

I can't tell if they want Trump to win to be proven right (in their minds)...or if they are incapable of anything other than throwing fits and denying reality.

Some bros on twitter acting like this thing ain't decided yet.

It is.


Time to accept it, learn from it, move on, and beat Trump. Then push Biden to the left as much as you can.






  

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27. "^^^"
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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4. "RE: what do you want to have happen at this point?"
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I think these allegations should be investigated and discussed in the media. I also think the child groping should be addressed and discussed. What do the parents of those kids think, what do the children themselves think now?

People should know who they are voting for. The mainstream media has done a massive disservice to those ends. I am sure 95% of people haven't seen the child groping videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwXweiRjckI

95% of people don't know Joe lied about his civil rights involvement etc. There has been over a year to vet Joe Biden and the vast majority still don't know who they voted for or are planning to vote for. I am sure Trump may remind them and by then it could be too late.

Ultimately it is a moral question, what should be done if this was anyone else accused of the same things?

  

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15. "in context of the election, what do you want to happen?"
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More people voted for Joe than Bernie. A lot more.

You aren't happy about it.



What do you think should happen?


If you really think millions of voters fell for a centrist coup, what should be done to fix it?


I want to ask if you regret, personally, focusing all of your rage on Liz while failing to "vet" or attack Joe...I also want to ask how such a weak candidate (Joe) kicked Bernie's ass so badly...but lets focus on the now.


What do you want to happen?


Do you think attacking the Dem nominee after he has won is a smart play?

Do attacks from the left accomplish anything once he is the nominee?


If yes, what?

If no, when will you stop?



Would you prefer Trump to Joe?


I got all kinds of questions, man. Things aren't abstract anymore. The "Joe versus Bernie" isn't just an intellectual exercise anymore...folks have voted.


I'm scared as shit that Joe is the nominee. I think he is missing a huge opportunity right here and now on the virus stuff.

But, he's the fucking nominee man. Its over. So...what exactly...in the context of beating Trump...are you trying to accomplish?


  

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9. "you say this like it's not possible!"
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>Like, should Biden drop out, admit the 'centrist coup', and
>endorse Bernie?

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20. "lol"
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"You got us! Me, Pete, Amy, Liz, and millions of people were engaged in a coup....all hail lord Bernie"

  

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153. "if we are being REAL Democrats about it...."
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We will shame her for waiting to make these UNSUBSTANTIATED claims to damage Joe. Then ignore it all together while pushing Joe for the nomination. THEN when Trump relentlessly brings it up in debates continue to ignore and bring of Trump's past in a race to the bottom, only for another more "credible" accuser or figure to come out and say the same thing in October, so when Trump wins we can blame Bernie for staying in the race too long.

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5. "Ban this shit troll account"
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156 posts since last August, all trolling against democrats.

If you have a real account here then post with it.

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10. "Looking into it."
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28. "Thank you. "
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prototype

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11. "Disagreeing isn't trolling"
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Yell at him. Ignore him. Do whatever.

He's obviously a real person and he hasn't violated any of the guidelines. Banning him is reactionary nonsense.

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12. "Real person who ONLY posts bernie talking points with weak links"
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This is exactly what paid trolling looks like.

There's a difference between disagreeing and sowing contention. Between being a part of the OKP community and purely pushing an agenda. Membership here is not a right.

90% of his posts look like "Did you see this? *posts link*. Very disturbing!" it is absolutely cause to raise an eyebrow.

A ton of "95% of people haven't heard this" and "Those in the know believe this".

Many of his weakly-sourced links are posted here just hours after they've live on the internet, including those in this post.

In combination with the join date, post frequency, etc. I think the onus is on reaction to show he's here for anything other than pushing an agenda.

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13. "The Intercept is a weak source?"
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Katie Halper’s bio

https://www.thenation.com/authors/katie-halper/

How’s a first hand sexual assault story...a weak source?

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14. "Is soundcloud? Look at all of them if you're researching, not just one."
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17. "For a post on a message board?"
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This ain't the f'n Times

If it's utter bullshit...address it directly

Or ignore it

Fools in here deflecting

Attack the poster
Delegitimize the source
Etc...

Did you do research before going on the defensive?

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19. "The opinion is fine. This behavior isn't."
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I think something like a 2 minute video chat with a couple charter members would make it easy to determine.

But everything about this account says troll, and nothing says OKP other than having a political opinion.

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22. "Is this behavior fine (link)?"
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https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13372455&mesg_id=13372455&page=#13374506

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24. "Can you think of a difference between Vex and reaction?"
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Again, it's not the opinion that's the problem.

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49. "you've had several members here claim reaction is an alias"
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namely an alias of mine. And they aren't just saying it in jest - they really actually believe it. But you're able to verify within seconds that it's not an alias of mine - but I'm sure that won't satisfy the herd.

There's a lot of groupthink bullying that goes on here - and bent just linked a post that's one of many spam-like trolling posts of its kind.

The Intercept source is a legitimate source - but I also hear your point. Many posters here post in poor taste - so I wonder what the standard would be to actually ban a poster for being in poor taste. Seems like a subjective standard, no?


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50. "Definitely subjective. But necessary."
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I don't care if you and he have the exact same opinion. Hell I love Bernie.

The difference is that you contribute to this community in OTHER ways, and he doesn't.

This is a community first and a political battleground second.

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54. "I agree. It's a judgment call - and I think OKP does a great job"
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in general - as it's not always an easy call.

But I also consider it a privilege to post here. It's sort of like the most extensive family dinner conversation one can have on the internet - and I genuinely enjoy the level of commentary here on politics & sports. But the political posts have def gotten extra salty - and understandably so. The era of Trump got many of us understandably ornery.

>The difference is that you contribute to this community in
>OTHER ways, and he doesn't.
>
>This is a community first and a political battleground
>second.

Well-said. It's one of the only places within social media spaces where it does actually feel like a community - which is probably why I keep coming back. In most instances - I can have the most heated debate and still circle back to appreciating the member I'm debating with -- because of the history/community here.



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51. "Also here's me confirming Vex is not reaction."
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Based on IP history. Feel free to refer to this post later.

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73. "ive mostly done it in jest"
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i kind of chilled on that though. i think its been clear hes not your alias, and now its confirmed.

his posting is definitely odd. not the best way to go about building up credibility. a lot of his posts do have good content but i agree with others that when you mostly post about one thing it is odd. especially when you just recently joined. it makes it harder to trust the poster or even consider the content.

  

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16. "."
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accidental post.

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21. "As mentioned, the Intercept isn't a "weak" source"
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It's broken two of the most important news stories of the last decade, in Snowden and the political motivations for Lula's corruption prosecution. The soundcloud link is to Katie Halper's podcast that features the actual woman accusing Biden. If that's the outlet that she chose to share her story with, then it's definitionally not "weak".

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23. "I mean all of his links. As in all of his posts."
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25. "You made the accusation *here*"
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There are no "weak sources" in this post. If you think there are other ones, then throw up a link and let me take a look.

Otherwise, I'm satisfied that he's real.

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30. "The search function is easy to use."
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Trolling by definition is a pattern of behavior.

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68. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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52. "it's really interesting that someone would create an account in fall 201..."
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and suddenly start sharing their detailed political opinions on okp.


like... *now*

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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53. "Right. Let's not stick our heads in the sand. It's not complicated."
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And not rare.

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60. "Right. And like Trip said *only* post about one singular thing."
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Like dude has not contributed to any other thread about any other subject at any other time.

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63. "I'll just say this...."
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I too initially thought something might be up with the account, but dude does post in The Lesson about fairly obscure underground hip-hop. One of the posts is about Brother Ali performing at a Sanders rally, but he's also in their discussing Wax and the new KRS-One album. A Russian bot asking about sample sources for a Little Simz track would be... interesting.

It could very well be that dude is just very passionate about Sanders.

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64. "Woke AI"
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65. "If I were saying dude's a russian bot"
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which, given their current strategy of using real people who don't live in russia not bots, would be unlikely, I'd just say so.

wherever this person lives and whatever their angle is, they have very specific and peculiar timing.

idk about you, but I don't personally go into forums where I don't know anyone and start spouting off about my political beliefs. I barely talk to y'all about them and I've been posting here my entire adult life.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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118. "I mean, we did used to have Activist here"
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>idk about you, but I don't personally go into forums where I
>don't know anyone and start spouting off about my political
>beliefs.

^^^And this was essentially the entire an MO of everyone on that board. So this isn't exactly unheard of.

I just chalk it up to some people being very passionate about particular issues. I certainly don't have to tell you that message boards are a magnet for this type thing.

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316. "it's combined with the factor of showing up in 2020."
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I guess I was unclear about it not just being the one thing.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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70. "RE: I'll just say this...."
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>I too initially thought something might be up with the
>account, but dude does post in The Lesson about fairly obscure
>underground hip-hop. One of the posts is about Brother Ali
>performing at a Sanders rally, but he's also in their
>discussing Wax and the new KRS-One album. A Russian bot asking
>about sample sources for a Little Simz track would be...
>interesting.

Thanks for bringing the facts. I even have a post on the front page of the Lesson as this ridiculous conversation is going on.

>It could very well be that dude is just very passionate about
>Sanders.

Exactly. I went over this before but I have been a reader of OKP for like 15 years. I actually used to have an account under the name edutainment with quite a few posts. One day long ago I made a post about how many police were actually clinical psychopaths and for some reason after that I could never login anymore. I tried for years to get back on but no one ever responded. I watched all the misinformation about Bernie on here in 2016 and it got me upset that I couldn't say anything. So when I finally got a response and was able to post again last August I came in ready to defend against the 2020 misinformation which could actually be a full time job. I'm just passionate that there is finally a strong progressive movement for the first time in my life.

  

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81. "LOL"
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6. "did he "grab em by the pussy"?"
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8. "what are y'all gonna do when Bernie endorses him"
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58. "cry in the car"
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67. "lmfao"
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98. "pray Never Trump Republican voters listen"
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26. "people don't care and there are too many agendas, especially here"
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From my experience when I posted the child molesting Biden video a few weeks ago, I could have told you how this was gonna go. People were gonna call you a Bernie Bro, russian troll, or throw in some what about Trump replies. No one will discuss the content of the accusations, forget about it.

You're right that it's problematic that 95% of the population hasn't heard these accusations or seen the videos but once they do during the general election, the liberal media will resort to the same tactics as you see here. Attack the messenger and ignore the message. At the end of the day it won't matter much and hopefully, the child molesting senile habitual lying candidate will beat out the racist, incompetent habitual lying candidate.

  

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31. "People may not care but it's not because they don't know"
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>From my experience when I posted the child molesting Biden
>video a few weeks ago, I could have told you how this was
>gonna go. People were gonna call you a Bernie Bro, russian
>troll, or throw in some what about Trump replies. No one will
>discuss the content of the accusations, forget about it.
>
>You're right that it's problematic that 95% of the population
>hasn't heard these accusations or seen the videos but once
>they do during the general election, the liberal media will
>resort to the same tactics as you see here. Attack the
>messenger and ignore the message. At the end of the day it
>won't matter much and hopefully, the child molesting senile
>habitual lying candidate will beat out the racist, incompetent
>habitual lying candidate.


I think it was discussed on here, but I know it's been in the media

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/joe-biden-inappropriate-touching-accusations-list.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-allegations-women-2020-campaign-2019-6

https://time.com/5578143/biden-inappropriate-touching/

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/29/18241598/joe-biden-lucy-flores-touching-women-media-history-explained

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAUOurZIVfI

95 percent of what population missed this news ?

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33. ""child molesting biden video""
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yet it's the people who say "bernie bro" who are being extra

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34. "what do you call this?"
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35. "desperate"
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36. "Oh yeah, yall crazy. "
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And I would want to fight someone who circulated video and used my child this way.

To be clear, I don't you've somehow unearthed video of Biden maliciously molesting a child, I see an awkward photo in public, with the family, in front of a photographer.

Again, yall crazy.

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39. "man, this too. fuck"
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>And I would want to fight someone who circulated video and
>used my child this way.

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40. "so ya'll really gonna pretend this didn't happen"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPs_79-hEg8

You're going to tell me he didn't pinch a 8Y.O.'s nipple

Seriously?

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41. "if u guys really believe biden's a chomo, how could you support Bernie?"
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Bernie calls this guy his friend?

or could it be you're just dishonest and desperate

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44. "You’re deflecting."
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It’s not about Bern

From here on out, it’s all about Biden

Care to discuss the video posted?

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45. "you no longer support Bernie?"
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42. "Yeah no, I don't think this video captures him....I can't even type it. "
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Yes dude is too touchy feely for this day and age in a way that reminds me of a Southern Black Preacher, but I don't think he thought, "yeah let me grope this child in front of all these people on camera".

Youtube should ban videos like this. I think okp should keep this post so we can know who the crazies are.

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56. "That video was mad awkward. Wtf"
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66. "I said it was awkward. But you believe Biden was like, "let me squeeze t..."
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childs nipple right now in front of a camera and her family?"

I just don't think it was purposeful. If someone takes 1000s of pictures some of them will come out awkward looking. If you are a touchy feely person, it's a whole lot more that will look awkward.

It's a bad look but I don't think the man is a serial molester or he treats women like Trump or even Bill Clinton.


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72. "i dont believe those dudes announce it to themselves "
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it’s an unconscious thing people do who like to touch or stare at body parts.

If you are an ass man you WILL stare at asses.. even when your wife is around. You may think you are slick but sometimes you just can’t help yourself.

I think touchie feely dudes are the same way.

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84. "i totally agree some of the time it's probably subconscious "
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this crazy book "Subliminal: How Your Unconscious Mind Rules Your Behavior" is worth a read/listen.

  

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86. "Stop man. Staring at a fat ass is not the same as grabbing a strangers"
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private parts. A kid no less.

You know someone who grabs strangers private parts subconsciously?


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127. "Smh.. stop being lazy fam"
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I know they aren’t the same... never said they were.

I said people who are grabby aren’t always having conversations with themselves when it happens about how they can do it on the sly.

and wtf kind of question is it to ask if I know someone who touches inappropriately? Do you?

Every time someone people root for gets accused people start deflecting and asking basic ass questions. But if it’s someone they despise? Oh, they did that shit!!! All of it!

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43. "maybe you need more context"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtO_HmwkonA

That wasn't some awkwardly placed hand "gotcha" moment. They're repeated examples of Biden inappropriately touching (which you could argue constitutes molestation) children. Would you fight a man who stroked your children in this manner?

Again, blame the messenger instead of the message. If this video was on mainstream news outlets three months ago I wouldn't be talking about it. All news stories focused on him inappropriately touching women, besides the senator saying his daughter was perfectly comfortable (though it sure didn't look like it). No coverage of the multiple examples in the video. If it is widely talked about in 3 months and hurts his candidacy, the democrats are going to look like some idiots for not dealing with it in the primary.

  

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46. "So how does it work? Are the parents part of the cover-up conspiracy?"
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Again, this reminds me of old school Southern Preachers and Politicians. That touchy feely stuff was part of the repertoire back in the days but has since been deaded (and I am not mad at it being deaded).

I have a general uneasiness with advocates making sexual harassment claims on behalf of people who don't come forward themselves making those claims and this is a clear example why. In this instance, you are exploiting these children because neither the children or their very well to do and powerful parents didn't come forward to make such claims so YOU are using them for your own political agenda. That my friend, is a shitty way to use children.


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47. "and commit career suicide?"
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All of Biden's behavior in the video, though it's disturbing and could be considered molestation, is "minor". I'd imagine the politicians would rather ignore it than drop a bombshell of an accusation against a presidential candidate only for people to say "that's just how Joe is".

I'll disagree with you that this is an older generation's or Southern way of touching. Maybe with family members but not strangers' children. I know in the north if an older man who is a stranger starts stroking a child's face or placing his hand on their chest, you get him the hell away from the kid.

Also anytime an accuser comes forward they are attacked and discredited. I doubt anybody listened to the interview in the OP, but she herself talks about how she was called a Russian operative when she found the courage to come forward.

  

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57. "In the north? Man.. cmon. This shit happens everywhere. "
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61. "156 posts"
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62. "And? Trump tried to force himself on a reporter"
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With his pregnant wife downstairs.

Your 156 posts lead me to believe you're from an incel breeding ground.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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69. "this post should live"
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71. "Most Dems are totally cool with pretending Joe Biden isnt a creep..."
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...lets see if they're cool with him being a known rapist. ...my guess is they hate Bernie enough to let it slide ..fucking scumbags


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74. "Hey - this guy is real - but COME ON"
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>...lets see if they're cool with him being a known rapist.
>...my guess is they hate Bernie enough to let it slide
>..fucking scumbags


Might be time to enforce some chill pills in here. Hell I got banned for being bougie or some reason that was NEVER COMMUNICATED to me.

He says :
1)Biden is a KNOWN rapist
2)People who support him KNOW he's a rapist
3)They support him BECAUSE he's a raper??
4)They ONLY do it because they HATE Bernie (a JEW)
5)They are SCUMBAGS

This level of vitriol has no logical place other that turn into -- other than violence.

Or this guy's just a internet loser talking shit.

Either way, seems to me there's about 10 people on here who've consistently been worst possible type of internet posters and I see no where for them to go.

Just an opinion, but this seems like 4Chan level shit.

EDIT: Yes, I know who he is - but posts like this are fucking disgusting.

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76. "c'mon you can't be this silly...."
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....I KNOW you've seen creepy videos of Biden crossing all kids of personal boundaries in VERY public situations. These are moments that would get you fired for sexual harassment in the very least.




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104. "Hey - you said he's a KNOWN RAPIST"
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And you called supporters of his people who are SCUMBAGS and KNOW HE'S A RAPIST.

So check yourself.

Go look in that mirror and read your post. See what you've become.

4Chan level desperate GOP level propaganda.

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125. "a women's sexual assault = propaganda? i feel bad for you."
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...i feel even worse for any women in your life


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77. "Let's see if Bernie hates Bernie enough to let it slide "
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>...lets see if they're cool with him being a known rapist
>...my guess is they hate Bernie enough to let it slide
>..fucking scumbags
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79. "eventually we'll have to hold our noses yet again..."
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....i'll support a democrat creep before i support a republican one ...my guess is Biden fucks this up and we end up with Cuomo somehow as the nom.




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87. "I guess that's right. Bernie must be in on the conspiracy because he "
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certainly hasn't brought it up.


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78. "I'm voting for whoever is running against Trump, but"
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I'm not going to act like it's impossible that this is a credible accusation

If I end up having to vote for one Rapist to try to stop that OTHER rapist from getting four more years than that's what I'll do

SOON as this current guy is out, if they wanna impeach/charge Biden on day 2 I'm fine with that

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222. "^^^ all of this"
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nothing is more important than getting the Trump Crime Cult out of office

nothing.

we can deal w/Biden's rapey ass on the back end.

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80. "Interview with the accuser on The Hill"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmVUQ7ii3_4

  

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82. "talking with liberals about politics is a waste of time"
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its a cult of personality/popularity contest round these parts.
This is a real problem, as is Biden's obvious dementia.
Then when he loses to Trump in a landslide due to all of the above, its a "Russian plot", "people are stupid", etc.
American electoral politics are in an incredibly terrible state and both parties are absolutely at fault.

And trying to ban dude for posting this is just fucking stupid.


  

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88. "RE: talking with liberals about politics is a waste of time"
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It sure seems like it! Here is an interesting thought experiment that will almost always yield the same answer. Think about if things were flipped and Bernie was accused of this, would it be mentioned in the media? Anyone who is honest with themselves knows it would. This scenario has happened a million times this cycle but is one of the worst examples yet.

  

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90. "Bernie was dragged through the media for weeks..."
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....for allegedly saying a "woman could not win the election". Imagine if there was videos of him sexually advancing on frightened women and children as they desperately try to squirm away from him? My god.








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91. "Yall really only see things through the eyes of how Bernie Sanders was"
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treated?
Trump and Epstein shifted the fuck out of the window.
Reporters are dealing with a global pandemic and don't have the resources to follow up on things.
And it looks like nobody is trying to stick their neck out too far for this woman.
Why? I can't call it. But Joe Biden is nobodies golden goose.
The media class, the pundit class, hell even most of the Democratic leadership continues to make off like bandits under Donald Trump ... there's little groundswell for Joe Biden in the way that you all are seeming to coalesce around Joe Biden.
There's the rich, wealthy, and powerful and they all set about looking out for each other and picking their avatar. If Joe Biden dropped dead today they'd try to re-sale Michael Bloomberg.

If I have one ask, it's to decouple yalls selves from Bernie Sanders. He's old, he'll be dead sooner than later, but his good ideas will live on way longer than he will. But if every conversation comes down to how Bernie would've been treated or was treated it loses the message. Isn't that what "not him, us" is supposed to be about?

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101. "RE: Yall really only see things through the eyes of how Bernie Sanders w..."
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>Why? I can't call it. But Joe Biden is nobodies golden goose.
>The media class, the pundit class, hell even most of the
>Democratic leadership continues to make off like bandits under
>Donald Trump ... there's little groundswell for Joe Biden in
>the way that you all are seeming to coalesce around Joe
>Biden.
>There's the rich, wealthy, and powerful and they all set about
>looking out for each other and picking their avatar. If Joe
>Biden dropped dead today they'd try to re-sale Michael
>Bloomberg.

You are getting some pieces of the puzzle but not the whole thing. It is in all these people's interests to have "not Bernie" as the nominee because of the policies and worldview and ideals that his movement represents. Yes, they would have been fine with Pete or Kamala or Amy or Beto or Booker or Warren as their avatar. Yes Bloomberg would fit in fine or Biden and even Trump if it comes down to it, just not Bernie is all that matters. They stacked the field to see who would stick and it came down to Biden so they went with that. All the other candidates could just be seen as Biden surrogates in the end since they were quick to ditch any ideals and just went with Joe when they were told.

And all this is not because of Bernie the person, he's by far not the ideal candidate, it is the millions of people and activists and grassroots organizations that surround him they are afraid of. They are trying to keep those people out and keep themselves in. That is the complete puzzle.

They even told on themselves, for example here with ‘Stop Sanders’ Democrats Are Agonizing Over His Momentum

https://www.nytimes.com./2019/04/16/us/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party.html

  

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106. "Then bring up the ideas not the man."
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I'm not missing anything.

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108. "Anytime we say Bernie we are talking about the movement..."
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...it's YOU who are obsessed with tag-lines like "bernie bros" and "free stuff". ...but you're obviously trolling anyway so whatever

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117. "Everytime you say Bernie people hear Bernie Sanders"
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If you were talking about the movement then folks would say so
But you're not
Which is your own failing for not distinguishing yourselves from the man
Means you have to take on all of his baggage and get none of the separation
Why one man is your avatar is beyond me
Yall were more tolerable when you were Occupy Wallstreet'ers

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94. "True, but this is way bigger than Sanders tho"
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Trump is a vulgar huckster who is way out of his depth in elected office.
The Dems most likely nominee is a career also-ran with a shit record, a legacy of corruption, no policy platform, clear dementia, AND NOW a sexual harrassment allegation...as we walk into the Great Depression 2.0, Pestilence Edition.
Trump's gonna mollywhop dude, and be in charge of the greatest crisis the country has known in a century

I don't get how anyone isn't dismayed by this.

  

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96. "they'd rather call people like you 'Russian agents' or 'Trump supporters..."
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>I don't get how anyone isn't dismayed by this.

  

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107. "People see out of touch grandpa, not secret pedophile."
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That's why it's not covered the way you think it should be.

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109. "People see out of touch grandpa, and ignore the pedophile."
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110. "RE: People see out of touch grandpa, not secret pedophile."
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I'm not here just to be a target for your opinion

  

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Your old account can be restored. Ask someone else though.

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89. "Bernie simply got in the presidential game too late"
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His in was to primary Obama in '12..and get his policies out there...possibly sway some of these Obama folk who were on the fence about how Obama was bought and paid for like he doin Biden...By the time he hit the scene Hilary was locked and loaded...and now Biden is just riding that same "Obama in my back pocket " wave

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103. "Bernie only got as big as he is because of Hillary"
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if anything became clear in this primary is that people hated Hilary more than they love Bernie.

if Biden ran in 16 before he lost a step, Bernie would've been the protest candidate with 20% of the following he has now (if he was lucky.)

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113. "I was uncertain this was the case until Super Tuesday. "
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92. "^^^^"
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Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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121. "Word to all of this. "
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>talking with liberals about politics is a waste of time
>its a cult of personality/popularity contest round these
>parts.
>This is a real problem, as is Biden's obvious dementia.
>Then when he loses to Trump in a landslide due to all of the
>above, its a "Russian plot", "people are stupid", etc.
>American electoral politics are in an incredibly terrible
>state and both parties are absolutely at fault.


They are just gonna blame "people like you" AKA "whoever they don't like."

Liberals and conservatives are truly two sides of the same coin. They pretty-much use the same illogical-but-highly-emotional tactics, but from opposite perspectives. Best to not engage with either side. Just a waste of time.


>And trying to ban dude for posting this is just fucking
>stupid.

  

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and too rare of a take than is usually found here.

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93. "The fact this isn't getting traction on the conservative site I lurk..."
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...But getting burn here is telling

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97. "it'll happen if Biden officially gets the nom"
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all of this is building up a cauldron of fuckery for the Trump re-election campaign. they have other agendas to push, like:

"go ahead and let ya grammy die for the stonks, bro"

  

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95. "DNC fucked up"
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I don't know what to believe with the allegations given it's wound down to mostly hearsay at this point

but here's the part I find "hilarious"

celebrity and erstwhile elite motherfuckers who made "Believe Women" or "Believe Survivors" both a personality trait, a merit badge, and a critical firewall, who all pushed Al Franken into resigning, who all screamed "#MeToo" and hand clap emoji'd between each word about the Kavanaugh hearing are all quiet about this allegation.

furthermore: the accuser did go to The Time's Up Legal Fund for help, but was declined because their nonprofit status could be threatened due to Biden's status as a federal candidate. The legal fund's PR firm is SKD Knickerbocker. Anita Dunn, who is the top adviser to Biden's campaign (and a former PR adviser to Harvey Weinstein), is the managing director of this firm.

Again I say "Goddammit, Democrats"

Bring all the Niggalemmings on the Biden Train because he was Obama's sidekick and The Black People In Office said he was good, rode that to a delegate lead in the primary. had niggas out here voting for him in the midst of a pandemic in a state where the GOP gov is basically Cuban B'ing the very real threat.

then the nigga can't form a complete sentence with over a week to prepare, makes comments in magazines about how he doesn't want to get in a political entanglement with Trump during a crisis, and now THIS shit.

Y'all couldn't have cut Liz a check or tried to convince Beto he could be White Barry for these libs, man?

Fuckin' Biden.

Against Trump. Got people hoping and praying CUOMO takes his place.

  

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99. "BRUH. If you are an ideological Democrat"
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and not just a fuckin cosplayer, this turn of events should infuriate you. This could quite possibly be the death of your party, in a very real way. If you're a "TRUMP IS SATAN!!!" person, this should have you mad as fuck, cuz the DNC is handing him a victory.

And I ain't even gonna get into the implications of THIS SHIT:

"The legal fund's PR firm is SKD Knickerbocker. Anita Dunn, who is the top adviser to Biden's campaign (and a former PR adviser to Harvey Weinstein), is the managing director of this firm"

the layers to that shit are WIIIIILDE.

  

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100. "How does anyone have the capacity to still be infruiated with politics"
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As individual news items when everything is trash and has been for most of our adult lives?

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102. "Because whether or not you're infuriated, politics still happen to you"
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and every one that you care about.

And there's a whole ass future out there.

  

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105. "Are you Black?"
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I ask that not to shit on you if you aren't. But that my Black ass reality and those of the generations before me is trying to make the best out of bad situations.
Being angry at politics or politicians doesn't fall into that. Particularly when the binary is that one party wants me dead/subservient outright and the other is more meh about my existence.
So unless I'm gathering a bunch of white people to try to move the needle by numbers, then being outraged doesn't serve me one bit of good.

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111. "Whut."
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I'm Black as fuck and this is the stupidest shit I've read in a minute.

  

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112. "Scorecard: Deflections so far...the black card"
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Out of touch grandpa
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Whatabout Bern

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124. "RE: Scorecard: Deflections so far...+1, Trumpster did it too "
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116. "Ok then, then you know the time"
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You: How can you support Democratic ideas and not be outraged about this specific thing?
A Black person:Is it anymore gross than anything else?

White people, white power structures have FOREVER been invested in self preservation, why jump at every way that manifests itself? Sounds exhausting.

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119. "Yeah, you're completely full of shit"
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And the existence of white supremacy is precisely *why* Black folks have to stay engaged & informed politically.

Miss me with that fake ass shit you're pulling outta your ass,bruh

Don't try to dress up apathy & cowardice as some sophisticated strategy.

  

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123. "Nobody is asking you not to stay engaged "
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But you’re screaming at bullshit, and demanding people be as enraged as you, and using that as a hole card
You know outrages me? Gentrification. Like no joke, I get viscerally angry about gentrification. But when others don’t 🤷🏾‍♂️
That doesn’t make them more or lesser than me, just that different things push different buttons.

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128. "Niggas want Trump gone fam"
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They aren’t going to put Biden in the crosshairs until after he wins.. it maybe just hope we all forget this ever happened.


I get it but don’t try to play me with all the deflecting and bullshit talking points.

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132. "It wasn't even like that"
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Dude was like "if you really thought like this, you would do this" and I tried to understand if he was Black.

Like, you ever had to call the cops as a Black man? I'm FTP all day, but say you get into a car accident, or get your house broken into, you still gotta deal with that system. That's what life is like, you know that, I know that, everyone knows the time.

And I thought a Black person would understand that.

I believe Joe Biden is a creepy sex pest. Before this allegation, the inappropriate touching, the smelling, the other accusations, his refusal to even distance himself and then make light of other's discomforts, etc. There's not a single thing I like about the man. But watching the Democratic power structure rally around him and sweep shit under the rug, whether this (at this point it's still accusations) or just his general political faults ... it's completely unsurprising, let alone outrageous. So the binary of "your credentials in your believes is measured by your emotional response" is just mind numbing to me. It's childlike in its simplicity. We all go to jobs we hate, live in countries we dislike, date people we can hardly stand, eat foods we can barely tolerate, etc. To try to check someone one what moves their meters has zero upside to trying to build or understand or convince another person, particularly in situations where building numbers is necessary.

Yall hate the power structure? Cool, many people do. But acting holier than thou isn't toppling shit.
Relatedly that's what Eldridge did, and how'd that work out for the people?

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114. "Biden: presume a woman is truthful when alleging sex assault"
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joe-biden-when-a-woman-alleges-sexual-assault-presume-she-is-telling-the-truth/2018/09/17/7718c532-badd-11e8-a8aa-860695e7f3fc_story.html?fbclid=IwAR3zhz_tbVtZhfbECN8Nmgj07Sdy5-3mUAb7cKqxSYHuaLaGbJjXQJcSsNc


https://fortune.com/2018/09/18/biden-comments-sexual-assault-allegations-brett-kavanaugh/

  

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120. "smh @ the virtuous OKPs turning a blind-eye to sexual assault allegation..."
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That good ol' selective outrage.


No surprises considering the URL. Carry on.

  

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126. "Happens every time"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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142. "My track record is consistent. Yall telling me yall now Believe All Wome..."
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I've got a track record of questioning the creditability of these sorts of claims when they sound fishy.

  

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146. "that selective concern cuts both ways"
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when people pretend to be as remotely concerned about the victim as they are about the purpose they serve.

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122. "As long as the serial grabber is still in office...."
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As long as the serial grabber of pussies is still in office, this is a non story.

Lets stay focused.

  

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129. "I'll say it, what's strange about Tara Reade's account is that she did n..."
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mention any of this when she accused Biden of inappropriate touching in early 2019. In fact, she went out of her way to say that she did not think the touching was sexual.

https://www.theunion.com/news/nevada-county-woman-says-joe-biden-inappropriately-touched-her-while-working-in-his-u-s-senate-office/

That's odd.

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130. "if only yall actually tried with black voters"
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instead of, you know, this kinda stuff:

https://twitter.com/SashaBeaulu/status/1242857366737104896?s=20




BUT HE MARCHED WITH KING

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131. "Exactly. If these cats reached out like Joe Biden"
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and reminisced on the good old days with his segregationist friends - maybe they might've won.

After all - there was only one person in this primary who got arrested going to see Mandela in S. Africa: that's right - Uncle Joe.

Dude did *so* much to earn the Black vote. Unprecedented, really.

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133. "They’ll cancel KHart for gay jokes"
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But make excuses for a career sexual predator so he can be POTUS

SMH.

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136. "imagine being this much of a liar and a loser"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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137. "those damn theys"
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138. "always theying up the joint."
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139. "LOLOL exactly."
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Tried to come up with something similar to this earlier but gave up.

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148. "It's okay to play R Kelly again (c) Joe Buddens reparations policy "
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143. "Just send me the TYT link to what you’re talking about "
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You know, Peabody award winning journalism

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348. "smh"
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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141. "yet black voters showed up for him"
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they weren't here for this man bun gentrification of the dem party

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135. "Biden denies allegations"
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https://www.vox.com/2020/3/27/21195935/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation

  

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140. "#TimesUpBiden #IBelieveTara #UnendorseBiden"
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Biden Bros, come get ya boy. It's over.


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144. "when bubbles go into quarantine "
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145. "those also read like russian bot hashtags"
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we be mixing the two up sometimes

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147. "doesnt matter. no politician has ever survived a negative hashtag flurry"
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it's over, Sleepy Joe

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149. "Maybe enough hastags will win over the black vote "
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That or more pics of Bern marching in the 60s

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150. "what. a. dumpster. fire. "
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when I heard of this, my reaction was pretty much "uh yeah...of course this would come out, everything and everyone is trash"

hey fam, just fuck my shit up.

I can't even comprehend how stupid this timeline is. MY GOD.

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151. "The lesser of 2...rapists "
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https://i.redd.it/3j3uqg6aepp41.jpg

...allegedly...

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152. "blue checkmarks back at it again!"
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154. "Joe Biden is the most publicly creepy man on earth. Are you serious"
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motherfuckers really gonna vote for this CAC because he was the VP for an administration that didnt even slap.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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155. "This should be on a poster, lol"
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156. "couldn't be me"
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>motherfuckers really gonna vote for this CAC because he was
>the VP for an administration that didnt even slap.

  

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166. "Rofl"
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157. "Tara Reade files criminal complaint over 1993 allegation"
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https://www.businessinsider.com/former-biden-staffer-tara-reade-files-sexual-assault-complaint-2020-4

  

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158. "Given that the statute of limitations has passed, how does "
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this play out? Do tye police look into it at all, or do they just tell her "sorry". And close the file?

  

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159. "is this what the claim is? I can't listen to a podcast"
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but I keep seeing people say he's accused of being / is a rapist but I haven't read where anyone said that



www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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160. "The lady says he forcibly peneratrated her in 1993"
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https://www.salon.com/2020/03/31/a-woman-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault-and-all-hell-breaks-loose-online-heres-what-we-know/ <-A breakdown by Salon - whcih some people thing isn't fair to the accuser.

https://www.vox.com/2020/3/27/21195935/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation <-Similar


Why it seems fishy "to some": Last election there was a candiate who on tape said it was okay to "Grab them by the pussy" and he won. Now his opponent is being accused of the very same thing.

Yesterday she filed a complaint "for safety reasons."




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161. "It's ok to say that you're still voting for Biden over Trump"
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Regardless of these accusations - but it's another thing to brush this under the rug and act like it doesn't matter. Biden has been accused by 8 women of inappropriate groping and sexual advances -- he has a problem. You can acknowledge that while still saying you think he's better than Trump.

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162. "Yes"
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In THIS "He Said, She Said" at this point I believe him.

I searched Google for the "8 others", I found this as the most recent artilce. (Link to a better one if you have it.)

These all detail touching shoulders, backs, and foreheads, and saying things that some people think are "creepy."

*I* don't consider any of the ones lsited below as "sexual assaults" in any way. None at all.

Maybe that makes me a MONSTER???

And it seems like none of those 8 have accused hum of sexual misconduct.


https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-allegations-women-2020-campaign-2019-6

Accusation:
Ally Coll, a former Democratic staffer, told The Washington Post that when she met Biden in 2008, he complimented her smile, squeezed her shoulders, and held her "for a beat too long."


Accusation:
Sofie Karasek was photographed holding hands and touching foreheads with Biden at the 2016 Academy Awards. While many saw the moment as powerful, Karasek said she felt Biden had violated her personal space.


Accusation:
Amy Stokes Lappos said Biden "put his hands behind my head and pulled me close and I thought, 'he's going to kiss me'" during a 2009 event.


Accusation:
Caitlyn Caruso told The New York Times that after she shared her story of sexual assault at a University of Nevada event in 2016, Biden hugged her "just a little bit too long" and put his hand on her thigh.


Accusation:
DJ Hill told The Times that at a 2012 fundraising event in Minneapolis, Biden rested his hand on her shoulder and began moving it down her back. Hill said the encounter made her "very uncomfortable."


Accusation when the aritcle was writtem:
Alexandra Tara Reade, who worked at Biden's Senate office in 1993, told The Union that Biden would "put his hand on my shoulder and run his finger up my neck." She also alleges that she was told to serve drinks at an event because Biden liked her legs.

Accusation:
Vail Kohnert-Yount, a former White House intern, told The Post that when she met Biden in 2013, he "put his hand on the back of my head and pressed his forehead to my forehead." Kohnert-Yount also said Biden called her a "pretty girl."

Accusation:
In May 2019, Biden told a 10-year-old girl, "I bet you're as bright as you are good-looking."


Accusation:
In June 2019, Biden told the brothers of a 13-year-old girl to "keep the guys away" from her.


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163. "the current accuser changed her story:"
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>Accusation when the aritcle was writtem:
>Alexandra Tara Reade, who worked at Biden's Senate office in
>1993, told The Union that Biden would "put his hand on my
>shoulder and run his finger up my neck." She also alleges that
>she was told to serve drinks at an event because Biden liked
>her legs.

just a year ago she originally said the touching made her uncomfortable but she didnt consider any of it 'sexualization'.
https://www.theunion.com/news/nevada-county-woman-says-joe-biden-inappropriately-touched-her-while-working-in-his-u-s-senate-office/

now she is accusing him of sexual assault for a new act she didnt originally accuse him of (penetrating her with his fingers)...1st revealing the accusation to currentaffairs/katie halper (diehard bernie stans). then the story bubbled up through the berniesphere (hilltv/krystal ball, theintercept, democracynow).

in 2009 under her original name...she wrote an article and said she left washington because she and her husband got job offers in cali.
https://archive.li/6ykxK#selection-6627.31-6627.87

then in 2018 under her new name...she wrote an article saying she left washington because she was sick of american imperialism and loved russia with all her heart.
https://archive.is/Vi7Hf#selection-273.0-273.520

but then in 2019...when biden was dealing with the inappropriate touching stuff...she said she was forced to leave washington because she was blacklisted by biden.
https://www.theunion.com/opinion/columns/alexandra-tara-reade-a-girl-walks-into-the-senate/

before she deleted them from her old twitter account...she had several tweets praising biden for his work on domestic/sexual violence causes just a few years ago.

her story has been mad inconsistent and the details sketchy. which is why more reputable outlets (and the timesup folks) have stayed away from it.



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165. "Every point addressed here"
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https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/04/evaluating-tara-reades-claims

Also here is a copy of an email Time's Up sent Tara https://twitter.com/VickiBalfour/status/1249000454534692864?s=20

and this part is relevant from https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/03/tara-reade-tells-her-story

One of the things I talk about being silenced, and when people say, “Oh, why didn’t you come forward?” Well, I tried, I went to media outlets the summer and before January, nobody ever returned my call. Not one. I went to Warren, I wrote a letter to her… And I was supportive of her becoming president. I would have loved to have seen a woman president. I wrote her. What happened—I alluded to it. I didn’t write details, but I wrote there was something wrong here… No response except a form letter to contact my local representative. I wrote Kamala Harris, I wrote AOC—not one person . I wrote celebrities. I wrote to Ronan Farrow. I wrote the New Yorker, New York Times, Washington Post. And so I want people to know this. It’s not that easy to get your story heard. Not one person answered me, not one. Elizabeth Warren was the only one, and that was a form letter. And I felt so alone and isolated. And the only thing that would happen is once in a while when I would try to put it out on Twitter, saying, Hey, this is wrong, I’m being called a Russian agent, this happened. Biden supporters would just write…you’re a Russian agent, you’re a bot. And it’s being silenced about sexual assault and sexual harassment. It’s like, it’s like a slow death, and I’m not going to let this take me down… Some people will say it didn’t happen and they don’t believe me and I don’t care. The people that need to hear it will, and the survivors that are being silenced that are out there will hear it and they’ll know, okay, we can do this, you can do this. And so I’m telling you, do this, shine a light on it. The last thing people want when they abuse is to be examined. They don’t want that.

  

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167. "this was a nice touch:"
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"If Biden went down in flames, the only plausible alternative—running Bernie Sanders, who is still on the ballot despite having suspended his campaign—is, for many, completely unthinkable. Senior figures in the party have made it clear before that they see Bernie Sanders as an existential threat to the party. They thus have a strong incentive to do whatever it takes to ensure Biden is in fact nominated."

imagine believing a sexual assault occurred and coming to the conclusion that theres a conspiracy to cover it up to prevent bernie sanders from securing the nomination.

they dont even know how to make the agenda *not* obvious anymore.

literally everything is a conspiracy against bernie now.

the seasoning:
"I do not allege here that senior Democrats would deliberately bury or ignore a serious accusation of sexual assault against their favored candidate in order to make sure Joe Biden successfully clinched the nomination against Bernie Sanders. This would be monstrous. I do note, however, as a matter of pure fact, that at this stage in the primary, those who see Biden as the nominee and Sanders as disastrous/unthinkable have a strong incentive to ignore such an accusation. I am sure they are good people who will resist being influenced by this incentive. Surely they care about truth and morality more than Biden’s career. But the existence of the incentive to ignore it is indisputable."

oh nooooo...i would never suggest they were doing such a thing! im just pointing out that theres a strong incentive for them to do it! now of course...they are good people...but i would understand if they were being not so good here! just something to think about!

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349. "Wow "
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prototype

stand ur ground, believe in urself,
believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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168. "I never said "sexual assaults""
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>These all detail touching shoulders, backs, and foreheads, and
>saying things that some people think are "creepy."
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>*I* don't consider any of the ones lsited below as "sexual
>assaults" in any way. None at all.

I said sexual advances. Being touched/groped/grazed in an unwanted fashion is a form of an unwanted sexual advance. Not sure why we're acting brand new all of a sudden. Unwelcome Touching of a woman on the neck, touching/smelling her hair, moving into her personal space etc... is not ok *at all*.


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173. "since we are posting defintions:"
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>I said sexual advances. Being touched/groped/grazed in an
>unwanted fashion is a form of an unwanted sexual advance.

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Sexual advances can be welcome or unwelcome gestures made towards another person with the aim of gaining some sort of sexual favor or gratification.
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none of the women mentioned in the article accused biden of that.

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183. "literally all of them described sexual harassment "
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by its very definition.

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>Sexual advances can be welcome or unwelcome gestures made
>towards another person with the aim of gaining some sort of
>sexual favor or gratification.
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>none of the women mentioned in the article accused biden of
>that.

Literally all of the women referred to Biden's touching as unwanted - and there's no way for you to know if Biden received any "sexual gratification" from that - but given that he wanted to touch/grope these women without consent, it's likely that he did.

But again - you're missing the point: unwanted touching of a woman on the neck, of her hair, or any other body part and invading her personal space via non-consensual touching is *always* referred to as sexual harassment - by its literal definition.

Really sad that you are contorting yourself to try and give Joe a pass on this.


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184. "Literally all of those women you referenced"
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have described being sexually harassed by Joe Biden. And one other (Ms. Reade) has filed a case of sexual assault against Mr. Biden.

Just curious: were you defending Kavanaugh with this kind of blind, dismissive indifference to very serious charges? Or do you only play vigorous defense when the accusation(s) are aimed at somebody on your "team"?

  

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164. "fam if you consider them serious then why do you need to embellish?"
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>Biden has been accused by 8 women of inappropriate groping and
>sexual advances -- he has a problem.

do you say/do anything anymore that just sticks to the facts?

they did not accuse him of sexual advances. they accused him of touching they deemed inappropriate or violating their personal space (including this accusers original version of her story).
https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-allegations-women-2020-campaign-2019-6
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Eight women have accused Biden of touching them inappropriately or invading their personal space in ways that made them feel uncomfortable. None of them said Biden's behavior amounted to sexual harassment or assault.
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this recent accuser (after changing her story) was the 1st one to say anything was sexual.

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169. "Let me help you sort this out since you don't know the law"
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Sexual harassment is a form of sex discrimination that violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. While some forms of sexual harassment involve only inappropriate comments, many involve some sort of unwelcome physical contact. If you’re being touched in an unwanted way by someone you work with, you're being sexually harassed under the law.

For example, many employees who experience unwanted physical contact in the workplace may endure their situations because they are unsure over whether this type of harassment, touching the arms, back, stomach, etc., is actionable. They may justify a person’s behavior through thoughts such as:

“He’s touchy-feely; that’s just the way he is.”
“He doesn’t mean any harm, it’s not my breast or my ass.”
“It’s not that big of a deal, everyone touches.”
“I don’t want to cause trouble (fear of retaliation).”

Although any un-consensual touching is improper, the following are some examples of unwanted touching that has been concluded as sexual harassment:

Groping or touching of body parts (not limited to intimate parts like breasts or crotch)

Caressing or massaging someone without their consent even if it’s just their shoulders

Brushing or rubbing against another person’s body pretending to “squeeze by”

Standing too close so as to cause a contact with someone (even if its forcing you to make the contact because of their close proximity)

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170. "you seem to be confusing yourself ."
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i addressed your claim of 'sexual advances'. that term has a specific definition relating to gaining some sort of sexual favor.

none of the 8 women listed in the article accused him of that.

thats an objective fact.

you replied with an explanation about general sexual harassment for some reason.

the article stated (after thoroughly communicating with the women) that the women asserted their interactions with biden werent sexual harassment. that was the determination of the women themselves.

apparently youre debating them about their own experiences now.


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