https://m.soundcloud.com/katie-halper/joe-bidens-accuser-finally-tells-her-full-story

some background https://theintercept.com/2020/03/24/joe-biden-metoo-times-up/

this is after 8 women accused him of inappropriate behaviour last spring

she recently went to tell her story and "The public relations firm that works on behalf of the Time’s Up Legal Defense Fund is SKDKnickerbocker, whose managing director, Anita Dunn, is the top adviser to Biden’s presidential campaign."

this is on top of the groping of young children that has been out there for years and everyone seems happy to ignore

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/284051/chappelle-s-show-black-gallagher

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Like, should Biden drop out, admit the 'centrist coup', and endorse Bernie?


Now that Democratic voters have made their preference clear, what would you like to see happen?

Should all the votes that were cast for Biden be discarded/ignored?


Should the party step in and nominate someone else?


What should happen in your mind?


Honest questions.


I get you're upset/disappointed/whatever.


So lay it out for us. What do you think should happen?

bidens nomination is imminent.

they know this.

its pretty obvious at this point. biden is winning states by a 2:1 ratio and bernie is fortunate to clear 30% in a lot of places.

they just wanna keep tarnishing him to the point that he hopefully (for them) loses the general. so they can 'i told you so' for another 4 years while also crying about the hell trump/repubs continue to unleash (that could have been prevented by them just acting like adults on 1 single november day and supporting the dem nominee).

theyre like trump supporters in that way. they wanna see anything outside of their ideological/cultural flock crash and burn. doesnt even matter if it harms them in the grand scheme of things.

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He needs to have better responses...than just denial

His role in the Iraq War...was more than just a vote
These sexual assaults...happened...some on camera
His relationships with staunch racists/segregationists
The FBI raid on his brother
Hunter

I mean...for fucks sake...he's a senator from Delaware...a tax haven on the mainland...do we really think he's not in the pocket of big corporations

Etc...

To this point...he has denied any and every critique of his record

That shit ain't gonna play in the general, when the Trumpsters full court press him

He needs to answer for this now.

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For Sanders - we had continual talks about the need to subject Bernie to the most aggressive oppo research and vet him like a Fox News pundit -- but for Biden (who hasn't seriously been vetted because nobody even took him seriously for *months* prior to S. Carolina) - the mere mention of legitimate skepticism or critique triggers claims of foul play.

If they think reaction posting an Intercept article raising a legitimate concern on Biden's record is bad/unfair - they ain't even close to being ready for what TrumpLand USA is bout to unleash on Joey B.

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There should have been better responses when...
HRC was confronted by a group of BLM protesters...and flat dismissed them, on camera
Bill victim blaming screaming on an audience...
HRC dropping the mic and walking out of a presser about butterymails...which became a thug life meme
Etc...

There needs to be better responses now, because these issues will be exploited in the general

You’re full of shit, step outside...or from the post above...I didn’t mean to offend anyone with my non consensual contact...

Same shit

Do better.

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when he basically did battery / creeped all over former nevada lawmaker Lucy Flores, and tried to apologize to anita hill after decades and massive pressure.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nevada-lawmakers-accuses-joe-biden-inappropriate-touching-kissing/story?id=62055143

"I felt him get closer to me from behind. He leaned further in and inhaled my hair. I was mortified. I thought to myself, 'I didn’t wash my hair today and the vice-president of the United States is smelling it. And also, what in the actual f---? Why is the vice-president of the United States smelling my hair?'” Flores' account continued.

"He proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head. My brain couldn’t process what was happening. I was embarrassed. I was shocked. I was confused," she wrote. "I wanted nothing more than to get Biden away from me. My name was called and I was never happier to get on stage in front of an audience."

Biden issued a statement Sunday in which he said it "was never my intention" to make Flores or another woman feel uncomfortable.

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Are you fucking serious?

Would you be in the same room as him while social distancing measures are mandated?

FOH

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That might be a hot clickbait YouTube rant video - but facts? lol.

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Lack of intelligence, emotional or otherwise?



I get it. I fucking get it. I'm scared that Joe is the nominee. I've been skeptical, and I remain so.

But they have nothing to hang their hats on anymore.

Bernie is the best to beat trump...but he can't beat Biden.

Bernie and his movement can overcome centrist dems, the gop, and the entire healthcare industry...but can't overcome Pete endorsing Joe.

Bernie will inspire huge youth turnout...didn't happen.


etc etc


Everything they said would happen proved wrong. Its shitty to be wrong, but fuck don't just plug your ears, close your eyes, and yell "I can't hear you!"


The movement just wasn't as big/strong as they thought.


Rather than trying to learn and make it bigger, they are going about the same tactics that turned people away to begin with.


And, in the context of organge trumpolini in charge of a major fucking crisis (on top of all the other horrific things), they are still unable to pivot and focus.

I can't tell if they want Trump to win to be proven right (in their minds)...or if they are incapable of anything other than throwing fits and denying reality.

Some bros on twitter acting like this thing ain't decided yet.

It is.


Time to accept it, learn from it, move on, and beat Trump. Then push Biden to the left as much as you can.

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I think these allegations should be investigated and discussed in the media. I also think the child groping should be addressed and discussed. What do the parents of those kids think, what do the children themselves think now?

People should know who they are voting for. The mainstream media has done a massive disservice to those ends. I am sure 95% of people haven't seen the child groping videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwXweiRjckI

95% of people don't know Joe lied about his civil rights involvement etc. There has been over a year to vet Joe Biden and the vast majority still don't know who they voted for or are planning to vote for. I am sure Trump may remind them and by then it could be too late.

Ultimately it is a moral question, what should be done if this was anyone else accused of the same things?

More people voted for Joe than Bernie. A lot more.

You aren't happy about it.



What do you think should happen?


If you really think millions of voters fell for a centrist coup, what should be done to fix it?


I want to ask if you regret, personally, focusing all of your rage on Liz while failing to "vet" or attack Joe...I also want to ask how such a weak candidate (Joe) kicked Bernie's ass so badly...but lets focus on the now.


What do you want to happen?


Do you think attacking the Dem nominee after he has won is a smart play?

Do attacks from the left accomplish anything once he is the nominee?


If yes, what?

If no, when will you stop?



Would you prefer Trump to Joe?


I got all kinds of questions, man. Things aren't abstract anymore. The "Joe versus Bernie" isn't just an intellectual exercise anymore...folks have voted.


I'm scared as shit that Joe is the nominee. I think he is missing a huge opportunity right here and now on the virus stuff.

But, he's the fucking nominee man. Its over. So...what exactly...in the context of beating Trump...are you trying to accomplish?

>Like, should Biden drop out, admit the 'centrist coup', and
>endorse Bernie?

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"You got us! Me, Pete, Amy, Liz, and millions of people were engaged in a coup....all hail lord Bernie"

We will shame her for waiting to make these UNSUBSTANTIATED claims to damage Joe. Then ignore it all together while pushing Joe for the nomination. THEN when Trump relentlessly brings it up in debates continue to ignore and bring of Trump's past in a race to the bottom, only for another more "credible" accuser or figure to come out and say the same thing in October, so when Trump wins we can blame Bernie for staying in the race too long.

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156 posts since last August, all trolling against democrats.

If you have a real account here then post with it.

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Yell at him. Ignore him. Do whatever.

He's obviously a real person and he hasn't violated any of the guidelines. Banning him is reactionary nonsense.

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This is exactly what paid trolling looks like.

There's a difference between disagreeing and sowing contention. Between being a part of the OKP community and purely pushing an agenda. Membership here is not a right.

90% of his posts look like "Did you see this? *posts link*. Very disturbing!" it is absolutely cause to raise an eyebrow.

A ton of "95% of people haven't heard this" and "Those in the know believe this".

Many of his weakly-sourced links are posted here just hours after they've live on the internet, including those in this post.

In combination with the join date, post frequency, etc. I think the onus is on reaction to show he's here for anything other than pushing an agenda.

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Katie Halper’s bio

https://www.thenation.com/authors/katie-halper/

How’s a first hand sexual assault story...a weak source?

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This ain't the f'n Times

If it's utter bullshit...address it directly

Or ignore it

Fools in here deflecting

Attack the poster
Delegitimize the source
Etc...

Did you do research before going on the defensive?

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I think something like a 2 minute video chat with a couple charter members would make it easy to determine.

But everything about this account says troll, and nothing says OKP other than having a political opinion.

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Again, it's not the opinion that's the problem.

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namely an alias of mine. And they aren't just saying it in jest - they really actually believe it. But you're able to verify within seconds that it's not an alias of mine - but I'm sure that won't satisfy the herd.

There's a lot of groupthink bullying that goes on here - and bent just linked a post that's one of many spam-like trolling posts of its kind.

The Intercept source is a legitimate source - but I also hear your point. Many posters here post in poor taste - so I wonder what the standard would be to actually ban a poster for being in poor taste. Seems like a subjective standard, no?


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I don't care if you and he have the exact same opinion. Hell I love Bernie.

The difference is that you contribute to this community in OTHER ways, and he doesn't.

This is a community first and a political battleground second.

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in general - as it's not always an easy call.

But I also consider it a privilege to post here. It's sort of like the most extensive family dinner conversation one can have on the internet - and I genuinely enjoy the level of commentary here on politics & sports. But the political posts have def gotten extra salty - and understandably so. The era of Trump got many of us understandably ornery.

>The difference is that you contribute to this community in
>OTHER ways, and he doesn't.
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>This is a community first and a political battleground
>second.

Well-said. It's one of the only places within social media spaces where it does actually feel like a community - which is probably why I keep coming back. In most instances - I can have the most heated debate and still circle back to appreciating the member I'm debating with -- because of the history/community here.



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i kind of chilled on that though. i think its been clear hes not your alias, and now its confirmed.

his posting is definitely odd. not the best way to go about building up credibility. a lot of his posts do have good content but i agree with others that when you mostly post about one thing it is odd. especially when you just recently joined. it makes it harder to trust the poster or even consider the content.

accidental post.

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It's broken two of the most important news stories of the last decade, in Snowden and the political motivations for Lula's corruption prosecution. The soundcloud link is to Katie Halper's podcast that features the actual woman accusing Biden. If that's the outlet that she chose to share her story with, then it's definitionally not "weak".

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There are no "weak sources" in this post. If you think there are other ones, then throw up a link and let me take a look.

Otherwise, I'm satisfied that he's real.

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and suddenly start sharing their detailed political opinions on okp.


like... *now*

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

And not rare.

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Like dude has not contributed to any other thread about any other subject at any other time.

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I too initially thought something might be up with the account, but dude does post in The Lesson about fairly obscure underground hip-hop. One of the posts is about Brother Ali performing at a Sanders rally, but he's also in their discussing Wax and the new KRS-One album. A Russian bot asking about sample sources for a Little Simz track would be... interesting.

It could very well be that dude is just very passionate about Sanders.

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which, given their current strategy of using real people who don't live in russia not bots, would be unlikely, I'd just say so.

wherever this person lives and whatever their angle is, they have very specific and peculiar timing.

idk about you, but I don't personally go into forums where I don't know anyone and start spouting off about my political beliefs. I barely talk to y'all about them and I've been posting here my entire adult life.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

>idk about you, but I don't personally go into forums where I
>don't know anyone and start spouting off about my political
>beliefs.

^^^And this was essentially the entire an MO of everyone on that board. So this isn't exactly unheard of.

I just chalk it up to some people being very passionate about particular issues. I certainly don't have to tell you that message boards are a magnet for this type thing.

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>I too initially thought something might be up with the
>account, but dude does post in The Lesson about fairly obscure
>underground hip-hop. One of the posts is about Brother Ali
>performing at a Sanders rally, but he's also in their
>discussing Wax and the new KRS-One album. A Russian bot asking
>about sample sources for a Little Simz track would be...
>interesting.

Thanks for bringing the facts. I even have a post on the front page of the Lesson as this ridiculous conversation is going on.

>It could very well be that dude is just very passionate about
>Sanders.

Exactly. I went over this before but I have been a reader of OKP for like 15 years. I actually used to have an account under the name edutainment with quite a few posts. One day long ago I made a post about how many police were actually clinical psychopaths and for some reason after that I could never login anymore. I tried for years to get back on but no one ever responded. I watched all the misinformation about Bernie on here in 2016 and it got me upset that I couldn't say anything. So when I finally got a response and was able to post again last August I came in ready to defend against the 2020 misinformation which could actually be a full time job. I'm just passionate that there is finally a strong progressive movement for the first time in my life.

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From my experience when I posted the child molesting Biden video a few weeks ago, I could have told you how this was gonna go. People were gonna call you a Bernie Bro, russian troll, or throw in some what about Trump replies. No one will discuss the content of the accusations, forget about it.

You're right that it's problematic that 95% of the population hasn't heard these accusations or seen the videos but once they do during the general election, the liberal media will resort to the same tactics as you see here. Attack the messenger and ignore the message. At the end of the day it won't matter much and hopefully, the child molesting senile habitual lying candidate will beat out the racist, incompetent habitual lying candidate.

>From my experience when I posted the child molesting Biden
>video a few weeks ago, I could have told you how this was
>gonna go. People were gonna call you a Bernie Bro, russian
>troll, or throw in some what about Trump replies. No one will
>discuss the content of the accusations, forget about it.
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>You're right that it's problematic that 95% of the population
>hasn't heard these accusations or seen the videos but once
>they do during the general election, the liberal media will
>resort to the same tactics as you see here. Attack the
>messenger and ignore the message. At the end of the day it
>won't matter much and hopefully, the child molesting senile
>habitual lying candidate will beat out the racist, incompetent
>habitual lying candidate.


I think it was discussed on here, but I know it's been in the media

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/joe-biden-inappropriate-touching-accusations-list.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-allegations-women-2020-campaign-2019-6

https://time.com/5578143/biden-inappropriate-touching/

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/29/18241598/joe-biden-lucy-flores-touching-women-media-history-explained

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAUOurZIVfI

95 percent of what population missed this news ?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-biden-bombs-big-time-on-the-view

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yet it's the people who say "bernie bro" who are being extra

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And I would want to fight someone who circulated video and used my child this way.

To be clear, I don't you've somehow unearthed video of Biden maliciously molesting a child, I see an awkward photo in public, with the family, in front of a photographer.

Again, yall crazy.

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>And I would want to fight someone who circulated video and
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You're going to tell me he didn't pinch a 8Y.O.'s nipple

Seriously?

WTF

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Bernie calls this guy his friend?

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From here on out, it’s all about Biden

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Yes dude is too touchy feely for this day and age in a way that reminds me of a Southern Black Preacher, but I don't think he thought, "yeah let me grope this child in front of all these people on camera".

Youtube should ban videos like this. I think okp should keep this post so we can know who the crazies are.

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

shut up already, damn

childs nipple right now in front of a camera and her family?"

I just don't think it was purposeful. If someone takes 1000s of pictures some of them will come out awkward looking. If you are a touchy feely person, it's a whole lot more that will look awkward.

It's a bad look but I don't think the man is a serial molester or he treats women like Trump or even Bill Clinton.


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