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"bad roots songs"


          

(before i even start this post let me assure you that i've been here since june because i do like the roots, and i'm not hating. the roots represent every trip, and when tribe retired, they officially bacame one of my 3 favorite groups(next to outkast and the lox))<P>okay, weve been here and seen the favorite verse, favorite song, favorite beat, favorite video, and so on, but we all know that we dont love EVERY roots song out. lets build on the wack ones(now before you even start on "there is no wack roots song", lets all remember that this is the same site that has members that come to cyber-blows over what they think should/shouldn't be legally considered wack).<P>as for my favorite wack/not that good roots tracks:<BR>1)every proceed other than parts 2 3<P>2)i remain calm<P>3)it just dont stop<P>4)Clon.....just kidding<P>5)the TFA secret track<P>6)the next movement<P>other than that, i got they back.<BR>peace.<P>Y2P!<P>"I'm like the cast of belly, i dont know how to act..." -Method Man<BR>

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
uhhh
Dec 10th 1999
1
Nobody remembers the classics...
Dec 12th 1999
29
tracks i didn't feel as much...
Dec 10th 1999
2
tinky, no...
Dec 10th 1999
4
i know yall might think i'm crazy but..............
abstrak360
Dec 10th 1999
3
&quot;Step Into the Realm&quot;
DJFLYGEAR
Dec 10th 1999
5
yo p
Dec 11th 1999
6
Dislike Is A Strong Word, However...
Quinn
Dec 11th 1999
7
What??
Dec 11th 1999
11
Well..
Quinn
Dec 11th 1999
13
      &quot;...and we been in love ever since&quot;
Dec 13th 1999
34
i wasn't really feeling...
Dec 12th 1999
27
Is it me....
Dec 11th 1999
8
yeah, i think he DID...
Dec 11th 1999
9
The Lox ended their contract with BadBoy a while ago
Dec 13th 1999
35
      yeah, but they still suck, hehe
Dec 13th 1999
41
you sweating me now......
Dec 11th 1999
17
      Well Put....
Dec 13th 1999
40
the ones that i couldn't get...
Dec 11th 1999
10
once again..
Dec 11th 1999
12
      it just didn't gel...
Dec 13th 1999
32
Roots w/ Bob Marley
Dec 11th 1999
14
Point?
Dec 11th 1999
15
Well.....
Dec 11th 1999
16
NooooOoooooOOOooo
Dec 12th 1999
26
what youtalking about willis???
Dec 12th 1999
28
oh my...dynamite?
Dec 13th 1999
33
I confess....
Dec 11th 1999
18
I agree totally
BigMo818
Dec 11th 1999
20
What You Want
Dec 11th 1999
23
Damn...
Dec 14th 1999
45
Roots may not b perfect but...
Dec 11th 1999
19
ecko
SqueegeeXM
Dec 12th 1999
30
      another one
SqueegeeXM
Dec 12th 1999
31
Songs I'll sing at a show, but it won't be played in my CD Player
Dec 11th 1999
21
Bottom of Rotation
Dec 12th 1999
25
      HEY HANDLE, DON'T YOU MEAN AU NATURAL AFTER MIDNIGHT REMIX???
gREGbASS
Dec 13th 1999
37
      Yes....
Dec 13th 1999
38
      Tracie D &amp; B
Krutch
Dec 13th 1999
44
they just cant grow on me
Dec 11th 1999
22
I'd have to say..
Dec 11th 1999
24
only 1
Dec 13th 1999
36
Damn Love Songs
Dec 13th 1999
39
You skipped &quot;Hypnotic?!??&quot;
Dec 15th 1999
47
there are a few but mostly ones youll didnt mention.
fatinD
Dec 13th 1999
42
welcome Fruity D!
SqueegeeXM
Dec 14th 1999
46
Krutch's Least Favorites
Krutch
Dec 13th 1999
43

MoJoTaters
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1. "uhhh"
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I guess I'd say The Session(from organix) is my least favorite Roots song. Its not that its wack or anything, I just think the hook sounds corny. "have fun, have fun!" hehe, but at least ?uest rhymes on it.<P>"Handsome Boy Modelling School gave me the confidence to be a model, if it wasn't for them...I would still have 60 dollars."

"I buttfuck MC's" Pharoahe Monch

  

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29. "Nobody remembers the classics..."
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>I guess I'd say The Session(from organix) <BR>>is my least favorite Roots song. <BR>>Its not that its wack or <BR>>anything, I just think the hook <BR>>sounds corny. "have fun, have fun!" <P>Arrrrggghhh...that was "borrowed" from the classic "Feel the Heartbeat (Have Fun)" by The Treacherous Three...one of my favorite old school joints....ah well....<P>Peace,<P>Spirit<BR><a href="http://amphibians.iuma.com">http://amphibians.iuma.com<;/a><BR><a href="http://infiniteloop.iuma.com">http://infiniteloop.iuma.com<;/a><BR>DC hip-hop is on the rise...<P>"High grade when I create beats/if I don't get signed/I'ma be the most dope bum that ever walked the streets" - <BR>Aychell (HL, of Khemystery)<P>"If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's probably a tool of the conspiracy" - unknown

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2. "tracks i didn't feel as much..."
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first of all, p!, is this just another attempt to get archived??? <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/wink.gif"> y2p my....<P>here we go then:<P>1) next movement. it's ok but IMHO it's not the kind of track you like very long.<P>2) it just don't stop. i mean, i feel the idea but it's one i wouldn't miss very much if it wasn't on the record<P><a href="http://www.thehungersite.com">http://www.thehungersite.com<;/a><P>KRH-ONE (nine-nine-nine): the ORIGINAL and ONLY OkayKoolKeith<P>"if it wasnt for hip hop id probally die"<BR> -DaZeD<P>"Where the F*CK is my purse icon??????"

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4. "tinky, no..."
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what i said in the lesson was me trying to get archived.(haha stop fronting doug) what im doing here is trying to see how open everyone is. everybody here likes EVERY song except one? i only see one song per person. at least i can say out of the 7 albums they got(the ep's and the live joint) i only dislike 5 songs.<P> <BR>Y2P!<P>"I'm like the cast of belly, i dont know how to act..." -Method Man<BR>

  

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abstrak360

Fri Dec-10-99 05:12 PM

  
3. "i know yall might think i'm crazy but.............."
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i gotta say UNI verse at war. the lyrics are dope, i've just never really felt the beat. jus my opinion though. peace

  

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DJFLYGEAR

Fri Dec-10-99 05:50 PM

  
5. "&quot;Step Into the Realm&quot;"
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chorus gets on mah nerves...<P>one.<P><BR>"Twenty five years ago, there were no rap records, no samples, and no break beats. Then came the Bronx boys--the original b-boys--a generation of young men from one of the most desolate urban landscapes in the 70's America. Within five years, they had created one of the world's most potent pop cultures...."

  

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6. "yo p"
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i agree with most of what your saying, but i think the roots TFA hidden track is hot!!!!!!!! come on!!!!!!<P><BR>One love<BR>"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"

  

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Quinn

Sat Dec-11-99 09:42 AM

  
7. "Dislike Is A Strong Word, However..."
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there are a few I never really got. For example, Silent Treatment - ask most people, and it's one the best songs on DYWM?! But along with You Ain't Fly, it was one of the two songs on that album I never gave much time to. Same thing with No Alibi on Illadelph - according to some it's one of the best songs on that record, but it bored me. Off TFA I'd give the lukewarm award to Don't See Us. Ok, do we get our okay passes revoked for this?<P>"...one finger is in the air/ and one is in the chamber/ y'all ask me what the fuck i'm doing/ i'm releasing anger..." - Andre, OutKast, 1994

  

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11. "What??"
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>there are a few I never really <BR>>got. For example, Silent Treatment - <BR>>ask most people, and it's one <BR>>the best songs on DYWM?! But <BR>>along with You Ain't Fly, it <BR>>was one of the two songs <BR>>on that album I never gave <BR>>much time to.<P>What??? This deserves a moment of silence...<P> Same thing with <BR>>No Alibi on Illadelph <P>i love no alibi..that song makes me teary for somereason, the keys or whatever are so sad. i respect your opinions, but i mean, to diss silent treatment? thats just odd.<P>><BR>>"...one finger is in the air/ and <BR>>one is in the chamber/ y'all <BR>>ask me what the fuck i'm <BR>>doing/ i'm releasing anger..." - <BR>>Andre, OutKast, 1994 <P><BR>" I had AQUEEN named AMINA, height 5'7'', caramel complected, body like heaven..."<P>"Amina, Yar Bakwa ta san rana," translated:<BR>"Amina, daughter of Nikatau, a woman as capable as a man."<P>Amina k.c.m.k.c<BR>Aqueen--> AOL/AIM

  

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Quinn

Sat Dec-11-99 01:53 PM

  
13. "Well.."
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I know Silent Treatment is one of almost everyone's favrioute songs on DYWM. That's why I listed it. Same thing with No Alibi. I just never got them. Since I don't really dislike any Roots song, I just thought it was an interesting perspective to list some songs I didn't feel much that everyone else did. I don't know why Silent Treatment didn't do much for me. But I am in the minority, I know that.<P>"...one finger is in the air/ and one is in the chamber/ y'all ask me what the fuck i'm doing/ i'm releasing anger..." - Andre, OutKast, 1994

  

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34. "&quot;...and we been in love ever since&quot;"
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"silent treatment" is one of my favorite songs of all time. and the beatminer's remix was hot too. damn...i love that joint. any girl i meet i put her on to that song...cause it's beautiful but raw at the same time...to me, it's my favorite roots song ever, hands down.<P><BR>my for-rhyming magnum's got three-hundred and fifty-seven calibers/<BR>to bust a sucker's melon like gallagher/ -- ras kass

  

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27. "i wasn't really feeling..."
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..."without a doubt" too much at first, but after they opened up their live show with it, it became one of my favorite cuts on the album. <BR>also, i know that most people aren't really feeling "don't see us" too much, and i wasn't always either. however, at this point, with TFA having been out for quite a while now, when i go and listen to the album this is one of the first tracks i go for. <P><BR>"And if I ever meet ya, I'll control-alt-delete ya!" - weird al

  

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Alex
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8. "Is it me...."
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....or did that fool say his favorite group was the Lox?<P>

  

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9. "yeah, i think he DID..."
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what the hell is up with that? they pretty much definitively suck, plus the fact that they're claiming allegiance to the Ruff Ryders camp now that bad boy has fallen.

  

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35. "The Lox ended their contract with BadBoy a while ago"
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They were pushing for that from the beginning, right after their first single dropped (or atleast the album). This was prior to Bad Boy "falling off".

  

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41. "yeah, but they still suck, hehe"
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i mean, honestly, they really do. oh well, each to his/her own, even if their opinion is blatantly wrong.

  

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17. "you sweating me now......"
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Let me have my opinion and stop being a hoe. other than that, have a nice day. <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif"><P>now, some of my faves:<BR>"Yo, you already know what I'm here for<BR>Therefor L-O-X be the niggas that I care for<BR>Holdin' down this foundation, Mister Jason<BR>Balled head baby face and I stay laced and<BR>When you pay good you play good<BR>I'ma get this money while these fake thugs stay low<BR>And why wouldn't I be stackin' Franks<BR>Fifteen in the clip while you packin' shanks<BR>(?) swingers, hair (?), fed bidders, real niggas<BR>The little kids still dig us<BR>Next time be careful who you bring drama to<BR>Speaker phone in the Suburban with (?)<BR>Pad lock, filled to the top and everything<BR>We ain't gonna stop<BR>We just going to squeeze through your glock<BR>Dinero, Louch, bounce to the coup with<BR>No trouble all my niggas bubble like goose<BR>Or geese, nauticale fleece it aint nothin'<BR>But now I can drop twenty-five on the piece<BR>Butt in axe duels with whoever<BR>Who you kidding, back to back<BR>Like cream on the other side of Clinton<BR>Shock treatment for the cats who can't freak it<BR>I keep it dusted thats why they always try to leak it<BR>But peep it, that weed shit you can keep it<BR>We trying to sell all the real units we can eat with"<P>"You can catch me on the low with a Calico bitch,<BR>I got flow while she's bagging her shit <BR>Comin' thru in a '98 wagon, lavender shit <BR>imagine the shit, used to be like packing the clip<BR>Cop in the truck the S-C cockin' to dump<BR>You can find me with my enemy coppin' his blunt<BR>When I'm finished niggas ask which block do I want<BR>My pockets is lumped, find me on a yacht with a blunt<BR>What you know about daimonds, nigga knockin' the pump<BR>While on my spare time I learned to market Heron<BR>I'm gettin' valuble, celebrate with stuff off the Malibu<BR>Science is the game and it's all mathematical<BR>Pearl white Porche, licence plate "radical"<BR>It's real when the fedaral-ies in Cali get mad at you<BR>forget that, Lox from the block want the shit back<BR>And I was in the first place, feeling the hit backs"<P>"Let me get back like Jada, more 'rabs than 3-ey-doe<BR>get the potatoe and clap at niggas in brod day-do<BR>You know the flow, where it come from and where it go<BR>or where it's gonna be at, that's where we at<BR>I touch you if you think I'm jiggy with the Puff,<BR>move and still sellin' forty-thousand a week so Fuck You!<BR>Three niggas you dont want none of make your insides<BR>Feel like the summer you gettin' Dumber & Dumber<BR>While we get smarter and smarter, makin' shit harder and harder<BR>Til this rap games like the Carter<BR>I'm Nino, Styles is raw steemed from casinos<BR>And Sheek is the boss of the Hennisey gambino<BR>We talking millions, you talking C-notes<BR>you used to stash dope in a sea coach, couldn't play sweet though<BR>You know the Kiss, on the low in the mist<BR>Blowin' roach and sipping Red Ally and Moe with a bitch<BR>When my niggas'll flip, see how cute you look,<BR>In the box with the suit on like you used to look<BR>Hard body with a purple faced future look<BR>Future crook, the same nigga who's boots I took<BR>Juliani aint a motherfuckin' joke<BR>You got mad niggas broke, alot of niggas gettin' that coke<BR>When they bring it to the lab is it sold to the slab<BR>First felony, you still gettin' four and a half"<P>"L-O-X bars, deeper than the bitches in the cars<BR>Styles hits the scene start twisting up the Lah<BR>And only Allah, will I fear when I'm here<BR>cuz even if I die I'ma be deeper where I stare<BR>That's either the ground or in the air do you hear?<BR>and if you don't dog let me make myself clear<BR>My attitude towards you, I feel I oughtta to sword you<BR>I'm in the whip, playing your shit, I fast forward you"<P>"It ain't no money now like it used to be back in them days<BR>stark blue 840 Convert. with the MKs<BR>Two-for-Five come free honeys try to pimp Jay<BR>but I just kick 'em to the curb like a Sensei<BR>Flow been here ever since the Rakim days<BR>ask Maria how I blew it down mad Wednesdays<BR>Now you feel me in your body like Ben Gay<BR>fuck what your mens say, them niggaz can't offend Jay"<P>"How many niggaz that you know<BR>can go solo<BR>And sell three...million and recoup<BR>each 9 for the group<BR>L.O.X. melt tracks like choc-o-la-te<BR>like M&M's let that Phillippino bite my body<BR>I can't sleep but not over no chick like Kelly<BR>constantly the ATF taps my celly<BR>Butterflies in my belly, got me 'bout to flee to Brazil<BR>underwater, submarine style like Lauryn Hill we chill<BR>'Ready or Not' couldn't find another style like mine-a<BR>L.O.X. the Dream Team you'll get dunked on China<BR>Reminder nigga, we the real McCoys<BR>with a little twist of pumping crack, quick to bust your warriors<BR>Plus we keep our b-b-b-bones<BR>up in your main bitch when you don't be home"<P><BR> <BR>Y2P!<P>"I'm like the cast of belly, i dont know how to act..." -Method Man<BR>

  

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40. "Well Put...."
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Is there any particular reason you felt the need(or had the time on your hands) to type out volumes of Lox lyrics? Were you trying to prove a point or something? I didn't get it.<P>Hoe, huh? Watch yourself....<P>alex

  

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10. "the ones that i couldn't get..."
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1) step into the realm<BR>2) no alibi<BR>3) silent treatment<BR>4) grits<BR>5) i remain calm<BR>6) lazy afternoon

  

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12. "once again.."
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i respect your opinions but dammmnnnn...<P>>1) step into the realm 2) no <BR>>alibi 3) silent treatment 4) grits <BR>>5) i remain calm 6) lazy <BR>>afternoon <P>the songs you just listed are like some of my all time favorite. granted, i could do with out all the inaudible yelping on i remain calm, but i still love that song. and lazy afternoon??? no alibi?? my goodness..<P>" I had AQUEEN named AMINA, height 5'7'', caramel complected, body like heaven..."<P>"Amina, Yar Bakwa ta san rana," translated:<BR>"Amina, daughter of Nikatau, a woman as capable as a man."<P>Amina k.c.m.k.c<BR>Aqueen--> AOL/AIM

  

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32. "it just didn't gel..."
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i don't know, it could've been a good song, but the ingredients didn't seem to mesh for me. it just sounded like a prolonged interlude.

  

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14. "Roots w/ Bob Marley"
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Maybe it's because I have so much love for both Bob and the Roots, that this track fell short of my expectations. I had certain issues with the Chant Down Babylon album to begin with, but I was looking forward to hearing the Roots track. After listening to it several times I still felt that it wasn't one of their weaker songs which is a shame since it is one that is played along with the great Bob Marley. I guess I was hoping for a more heartfelt song - I don't know, maybe I was expecting too much, but I know that the Roots have more heart and soul than what was displayed on that track. Just my opinion.<P>7cents<P>

  

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15. "Point?"
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What is the purpose to this topic? A Bad track for one person, could be butter for someone else. Opinions are all good but if you not feelin a track, push on! They put out to many classics to even try to disrespect. And for whoever wasn't feelin "no alibi" put on some got damm and listen again! You missin out on some brilliant lyrics. One L.

That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and beleive in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. -Romans 1

  

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16. "Well....."
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I've stated before the Roots songs that I can't listen to are:<P>LAZY AFTERNOON<P>DYNAMITE<P>But to each his own cause some of you have named my favorite Roots song (No Alibi) as your least favorite.<P>Shawn Gee

"Ernest Lee is Shorty. In the Little Leagues, he can front like he’s something important, but any attempt to move into the big time leaves him exposed, shocked, and utterly outclassed". - (taken from the Blowhard league archives)

  

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26. "NooooOoooooOOOooo"
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Dynamite?? <BR>Man that song is the ish..the bass and the "in-in-tro-tro, du-du-cing..." whew! i love that song.<P>yall are like naming all my jams. the only roots song i dont particularly care for was "love of my life", only because i dont care for the music behind it that much.<P>" I had AQUEEN named AMINA, height 5'7'', caramel complected, body like heaven..."<P>"Amina, Yar Bakwa ta san rana," translated:<BR>"Amina, daughter of Nikatau, a woman as capable as a man."<P>Amina k.c.m.k.c<BR>Aqueen--> AOL/AIM

  

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28. "what youtalking about willis???"
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Dynamite is the ish.<P>but there are some roots songs i dont like too much...<P>i remain calm<BR>it dont stop<P>one i really couldnt dtand was step into the realm...but nothing beats that shit live.<P>Fate is moving you toward your destiny--Delavega<P>Peace and Love <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif">

  

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33. "oh my...dynamite?"
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i LOVE that one. hell, even ?uest says its straight dope in the liner notes. but each to his/her own, i suppose. and i DID go back and listen to No Alibi again, and i now realize that it shouldn't be on my Worst List. but it still doesn't totally measure up. i don't know, to me, you need more than just dope lyrics to make a good track.

  

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18. "I confess...."
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Alright there are prolly a handful outta all their joints....<P>- "What You Want" (no no no)<P>- "You Aint Fly" (only track on DYWM i really cant <BR>stand)<P>- "The Spark" (i love me some malik b, but that shit he does at the end annoys the shit outta me, and damn the joints that the Roots did with D always came out so hot ex. Hypnotic, and the notic, but the Spark was really a huge dissapointment)<P>- "Episodes" (too long and monotnous)<P>- "Dont See Us" (this is a track that really isnt bad, but it shouldnt of been on TFA or the Live album( imagine if The Lesson and then Nuthin New was after 100% dundee rmx instead of dont see us, i mean thats a track that you need mal and dice on to break the monotony, tyriq is the man, but that song is too long for one person to pull off.......damn the Lesson and Nuthin instead of Dont See Us, and disc one would be legendary....still damn good though sheeeiiitttt....lol)<P>- "100% Dundee.....(damn the rmx is the absolute effin shit, i wish that version was on TFA, oh well......)<P><P><BR>Thats really about it, for about 10 years of recording.......damn.........and i was bein critical too......<BR>One Love<BR>RamXL<BR>(b-boy advocate)<P><BR>"inside myself/self alarm is soundin/sayin we need to be better brown men/ its hard to do that!" Pos<P>"guess who bringin the get-busy back/ women say the sound of my voice/an aphrodisiac/ okayplayer.com where you can hit me at" Tyriq<P>

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BigMo818

Sat Dec-11-99 08:00 PM

  
20. "I agree totally"
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I love me some Roots, but I hate me some "What you want". To be totally honest, I'm surprised that more people haven't mentioned this song. It's still all good.<P>Mo

  

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23. "What You Want"
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I must admit I'm not feeling this song the same way I feel the Roots stuff. I'm feeling it the same way i would feel a Monica or Brandy. You know, just some ish on the radio that you wouldn't mind turning the volume down on if you were in the car and you had someonelse to talk to. (just too r&bish and those the echoed rhodes melody didn't fit) I heard it live on the chris rock show and it sounded better with a guitar doing the piano part.<BR>BESIDES that one song and video, everthing the Roots have dropped is butter! Maybe it's because i copped it recently but some organix tracks were a bit hard to get into...not wack though. <BR>ONE LOVE

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45. "Damn..."
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Shit, for me, "What You Want" is one of my favs. it ain't typical roots ish, but i love that beat.<P>D<P>"i just drank a fifth of vodka, dare me to drive" - eminem<P>"your head is throbbing and I ain't said shit yet"

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19. "Roots may not b perfect but..."
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i understand that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but no matter how hard i try to be openminded i can't grasp how anyone could list any track from Do you want more (especially Silent treatment and lazy afternoon). That is without a doubt a CLASSIC from start to finish. what's the deal? why do so many people seem to diss the tracks that have a heavier jazz influence? <BR>the roots aren't perfect (no artist is) and there were a some songs like "it don't stop" that i agreed with. but NO song from DYM should be anywhere near a worst songs list!<BR>but hey, thats just my opinion<P>peace incog<P>"a hungry man is an angry man"<BR>-de duppy conquerer

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SqueegeeXM

Sun Dec-12-99 08:22 PM

  
30. "ecko"
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>i understand that everyone is entitled to <BR>>their own opinion, but no matter <BR>>how hard i try to be <BR>>openminded i can't grasp how anyone <BR>>could list any track from Do <BR>>you want more (especially Silent treatment <BR>>and lazy afternoon). That is without <BR>>a doubt a CLASSIC from start <BR>>to finish. what's the deal? why <BR>>do so many people seem to <BR>>diss the tracks that have a <BR>>heavier jazz influence?<P>I gotta say I agree with your sentiments (well okay, i don't HAVE to say it, but i did, so there). Everything off of DYWM is dope in its own way to me. It may not be as immediately gratifying as other material, but every track from start to finish is in it's rightful place, IMHO.<P>As far as Roots tracks I don't feel 100%, I'll say these:<P>"It Just Don't Stop"<BR>"The 'Notic" (live version is incredible, original is just OK)<BR>"Feel Muh Heat"<BR>"Without A Doubt"<BR>"The Spark" (would've been more in place on Illadelph Halflife...but knowing the origins of the track, i understand)<BR>"You Got the Touch"<P>...and that's about it.<P>________________________________________<BR>Dr. Squeegee ~ This is my new signature.

  

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SqueegeeXM

Sun Dec-12-99 08:33 PM

  
31. "another one"
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"Section" (not bad, but i heard this joint live before i heard the studio version...BAD IDEA JEANS. The song had a much more hype feeling to it when they peformed it, along with an unforgettable bassline that was just dope.)

  

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21. "Songs I'll sing at a show, but it won't be played in my CD Player"
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1) Proceed. Not feeling it...<BR>2) Sections. Cool, but not feeling it...<BR>3) We Got You. Even though Jaguar explained it to me and it sets off Lesson 3 perfectly...blah!<BR>4) Good Music. Nope not feeling it either <BR>That's it...<P>I personally like Lazy Afternoon cuz it's lazy <img src="http://www.okayplayer.com/dcforum/Images/happy.gif">. I Remain Calm is hot to me. And that's Shorty No Mas (mmmmmmmmmm...oh sorry) doing her Sugarhill Gang tribute. The hook for the Session was from Heartbeat (i think) by the Treach Three. Let me stop before I get accused of pulling a Spirit hahahahahahahaha (laugh damnit and get over it).<P>One<BR>Improv!?, yadda yadda yadda...<P>"dude ricky(martin) is a fucking male gloria estefan"---Steve<BR>"I miss you too Starr..."---Twin

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25. "Bottom of Rotation"
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I'll bet everyone knows I LOVE the Roots but:<P>The Noctic- From MIB soundtrack. I just don't feel the Earth Wind and Fire bite (or tribute.) I seem to be in a minority on this one.<P>Tracie Spencer - All About You Drum and Bass Remix - Very similar to You Got Me in structure. This could be because the Record label was asking for exactly that.<P>Non-Chalant - Take it there - Just not one of my favorite Roots musical tracks. Dice Raw has a brilliant line about "tits double haltered" tho.<P>Bahamadia/Sweetback - I Confess 12" after Midinight Remix. Just not feeling the Horn<P>And before you ask, no I won't sell or Give you copies of any of the stuff. With the exception of maybe Quest. But only if he's nice.<P>-Tom Hayes: Defender of the Meek

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gREGbASS

Mon Dec-13-99 07:56 AM

  
37. "HEY HANDLE, DON'T YOU MEAN AU NATURAL AFTER MIDNIGHT REMIX???"
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38. "Yes...."
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I did mean Au Naturale. It's tough to remeber a bad Roots track, there are so few

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Krutch

Mon Dec-13-99 05:26 PM

  
44. "Tracie D &amp; B"
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I'm not positive, but i don't think that track was even produced by the roots... i know you didn't mention that or anything... <P>It does sample tariq's verse and scott's keys, but i think it was just remixed by the dude who produced the original version.<P>I happen to love that d&b mix.... the bass and the whole groove hypnotizes me.<P><BR>(((krutch)))(((1999)))<P>"Lyrically calculus in this arithmetic hip hop metropolis" - black thought<P>"I'm hard as me tryin' to park a dodge, drunk as fuck..." - eminem

  

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22. "they just cant grow on me"
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Grits, I remain calm, Grits....and ummm...did i forget to say grits..( even though its not a entire song at all)....more to come...<P>...i think......<P><P>".....but on the real...it's just a website"-US<P>"But for a small fee almost anything is possible.baaaaaahahaaa" -Mr.1989

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24. "I'd have to say.."
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I wasnt feeling Without a Doubt off TFA...<BR>but damn..I LOVE I'll remain calm..<BR>Don't see us is just a mediocre track and the spark is alright but is saved by Malik's verse.<BR>Datskat is kinda aggravating..I love Lazy Afternoon though.<BR>I dont like what they do..I like No alibi..<BR>I like wwhat you want..I dont like We got you..I dunno, its just..bad, No offense to jaguar I still love you LOL.<BR>Peace,<BR>Steve

  

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36. "only 1"
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don't see us...just not feelin' it. I can't believe some of you aren't feelin' 100%dundee and next movement (and dynamite- shawn gee), but to each his own...it would be a mad boring world if everyone liked the same stuff...right? <BR>--res-one--><BR>peace, okayplayers...<P>"rappers are in danger, who will use wits to be a remainder..."- O.C.<P>"so what? you carry hot glocks and rocks, so what? that type of rap is #1 on the charts, so what? your video is on MTV, you still ain't an emcee to me"- Krumb Snatcha<P>FREE MUMIA<BR><a href="http://www.mumia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mumia.org<;/a><BR><a href="http://www.thehungersite.com" target="_blank">http://www.thehungersite.com<;/a>

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39. "Damn Love Songs"
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First of all, I'm hurt because Proceed and Remain Calm were my jams on DYWM, and no alibi is too, but anyways....<P>I have to speak out against every "love" song the roots have done (except "love of my life" for obvious reasons). they get initial play when I first get the album and skipped from week two on...<P>Silent treatment<BR>Hypnotic<BR>You got me<BR>What you need (didn't even need a week, i wasn't feelin it from first listen)<P>luckily, they avg one an album which can be easily overlooked.<P>I personally can take but so much r&b in my music (unless its slow jam time)<BR>the amount in "swept away" and "no great pretender" just about reaches my tolerance but is carried out so that the chorus doesn't rely on it (which is a plus)<P>besides those "it just dont stop" and "episodes" stopped getting heavy rotation a while ago<P>my $0.02<P>Choco B

  

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47. "You skipped &quot;Hypnotic?!??&quot;"
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I PITY YOU....FOOLISH MORTAL!!!!<P>Seriously...the Roots tracks that went over my head were<P>1. No Great Pretender (Sorry, Malik...it wasn't you...it was the beat)<P>2. Without A Doubt (I never really dug Steady B's version)<P>That will do for now!<P>DVSJ

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fatinD

Mon Dec-13-99 04:41 PM

  
42. "there are a few but mostly ones youll didnt mention."
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First off let me say I agree with the people who mentioned "the session" but I dont think it was meant to be a dope joint it was about making history as the longest posse cut in history.Now seeing as though alot of roots songs I have witnessed come together I hope Im not to biased.But my all time favorite roots song to hate is "The good,the bad,the desolated from the high school high soundtrack reason being it ws originally going to be a hot song with me and tariq ill admit it was a little to r&b for some of you hard core heads but it cold have been good for the time.Needless to say it wound up revamped as the hypnotic on illadlph halflife.But all of that aside I hated the idea of the a&r of the soundtrack calling us on the phone in the studio telling us the song we had submitted was not cutting it and we should smoke some more weed.Which is probably what happened and I just hated the reggae chanter he was down with the fugees and the roots were practically at war with them at the time.Thats the history sorry this turned out so long it was really no way to shorten it.Some may think im just bitter which i may be to some degree, but the roots have put me on many a song for which i am eternally grateful and of course this is not meant to bite the hand that feeds you especially when i took home a gold record from the high school high soundtrack but I just hate that song in a nutshell.well what do I know listen back for yourselves P.s the roots cover of the show by slick rick and dougie fresh it was great in the live show but it just didnt translate well on tape.Fatin

  

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SqueegeeXM

Tue Dec-14-99 07:46 PM

  
46. "welcome Fruity D!"
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nah, i'm just playin. Welcome to this thing we call Okayplayer.

  

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Krutch

Mon Dec-13-99 05:16 PM

  
43. "Krutch's Least Favorites"
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11) There's a RIOT goin on (Part II - extended house, acid jazz, Hip Hop, Radio Friendly, edit, video mix)<P>4) Writters Block<P>13) Peace<P>33) The Unlocking (?)<P>52) Adventures in Wonderland<P>70) Return to Innocence Lost<P>I know, I know... "RIOT" can't be considered a song, but it's a track with a number, so i count it. and i just can't get into all those spoken word things more than once. sorry<P>(((krutch)))(((1999)))<P>"Lyrically calculus in this arithmetic hip hop metropolis" - black thought<P>"I'm hard as me tryin' to park a dodge, drunk as fuck..." - eminem

  

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