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spirit
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"Com sells 670,000"


  

          

well, 670,000 in the U.S., that is (I'm sure he sold a bunch more overseas). Big up, Cornbread!!! The info came from the Billboard story below...

(next time, hope you snag that platinum plaque, Big Com...you deserve it)
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Edited by Jonathan Cohen / May 15, 2001, 3:25 PM

Billboard Bits: Pearl Jam, Common, Ween



Rapper Common is back in the studio recording the follow-up to last year's MCA set "Like Water for Chocolate." The as-yet-untitled album is tentatively scheduled for a November release, according to an MCA spokesperson.

There's no word yet on who Common will be collaborating with, but his official Web site reports that the rapper will be recording some tracks with Shaquille O'Neal for the basketball star's forthcoming release.

"Like Water for Chocolate" peaked at No. 16 on The Billboard
200, and has sold 670,000 copies in the U.S., according to
SoundScan. It featured the R&B/hip-hop airplay hits "The
Light" and "The 6th Sense."

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Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit Equality

MAY IS "J.U.I.C.E. IS ILL AS HELL" MONTH. GET THIS MAN'S MATERIAL BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

"Sincerely"
When I design rhyme in daylight
Or primetime I stay tight
I walk the fine line
between an emcee and a playwright
I represent the underground world, it's a unique scene
There's no record deals, no videos and street teams
I do shows to keep green
I know I'm not a star man,
I'm signed to myself
And my mic's my A&R man
In double nine I guess it's just a sign of the times
The spotlight that I've been looking for is finally mine
I never thought about the dough when I'm designing my rhyme
As long as I can reach my peoples over vinyl I'm fine
It ain't about that
I opened up for cats who ain't as dope as me
While I ripped the flow, they lip synched the show hopelessly
From Heaven I was sent to the game to entertain
I may never pimp that '75 ta cop that blue Range Rover
But even if I don't remain sober
I'ma score double digits
till the fuckin' games over

- J.U.I.C.E. (from '99), "Sincerely"

ps: COMICS ARTIST NEEDED!!!!!!!! INBOX ME!!!!!

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux -
Just listen, you will believe...

"In the first forty years of the twentieth century, about half of all
blacks who were killed, were killed by law enforcement." - Tim Wise, shocking statistic of the moment

"Smack it up, Flip It, Rub It Down.. OH NOOOO!! - This always intrigued me. What horrible catastrophe was caused by rubbing it down? If he just stopped after flipping it could this tragedy have been avoided?" - jsmooth995, LOL of the month


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Subject Author Message Date ID
RE: Com sells 670,000
May 15th 2001
1
that's damn good!
May 15th 2001
2
      tight as album is
May 15th 2001
3
      Nice to see com finally get some sales
MrIdontgiveafuckalupugus
May 15th 2001
5
      misconceptions
May 15th 2001
6
           I meant *pre* LWFC
May 15th 2001
7
      comm had 2 hit singles...
May 15th 2001
9
      RE: comm had 2 hit singles...
May 16th 2001
28
           RE: comm had 2 hit singles...
May 16th 2001
33
           Ghetto Heavan was not a hit
May 16th 2001
34
                RE: my man !!!
May 16th 2001
36
                     so who are you?
May 16th 2001
43
                     Lol!
May 16th 2001
44
      dude
May 15th 2001
11
           *choking on chill pill*
May 16th 2001
29
                bwahaha
May 16th 2001
45
RE: Com sells 670,000
May 15th 2001
4
he WILL hit one mill
May 15th 2001
8
      damn bootleggers
May 15th 2001
10
           he's gotta be platinum...
May 15th 2001
12
           RE: he's gotta be platinum...
ubiquitous
May 16th 2001
27
           worldwide...
May 16th 2001
30
                otay. tanks.
May 16th 2001
32
           RE: damn bootleggers
May 15th 2001
13
           RE: damn bootleggers
May 15th 2001
14
                my favorite video of the year
May 15th 2001
16
                RE: damn bootleggers
May 15th 2001
22
           RE: damn bootleggers
May 15th 2001
26
It's great for Com
May 15th 2001
15
he would go plat...
May 15th 2001
17
RE: Com sells 670,000
May 15th 2001
18
RE: Com sells 670,000
May 15th 2001
19
Damn Napster too!!
May 15th 2001
20
RE: Com sells 670,000
May 15th 2001
21
      RE: Com sells 670,000
JKilla
May 15th 2001
23
           RE: Com would love to go platinum
May 15th 2001
24
           RE: slow down toughguy....
May 16th 2001
35
                sugarplum?
May 16th 2001
38
                RE: sugarplum?
May 16th 2001
39
                     it's been boring around here w/out you
May 16th 2001
46
                     RE: whoa big guy......
May 16th 2001
47
                          eff him and the Squires
May 17th 2001
58
                     RE: sugarplum?
May 17th 2001
49
                RE: Label Guy,
May 17th 2001
51
                     RE: Label Guy, this is my final answer
May 17th 2001
63
           that has to be....
May 16th 2001
40
                It came on Saturday!! YAY!!!
May 16th 2001
42
you're not in the industry
May 16th 2001
31
RE: you're not in the industry
May 17th 2001
50
      RE: you're not in the industry
May 17th 2001
53
      RE: you're not in the industry
May 17th 2001
55
      RE: you're not in the industry
Traci
May 17th 2001
62
      RE: you're not in the industry
May 17th 2001
54
      RE: you're not in the industry
May 17th 2001
56
      apples and oranges
May 17th 2001
57
           RE: How 'bout 'dem apples?
May 17th 2001
59
???
May 16th 2001
37
RE: ???
May 17th 2001
52
      i think you did..
May 17th 2001
60
here here
May 17th 2001
61
bring back no I.D.!!!!
algren
May 15th 2001
25
RE: bring back no I.D.!!!!
May 16th 2001
41
      RE: bring back no I.D.!!!!
May 16th 2001
48

jose3030
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1. "RE: Com sells 670,000"
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that's all?


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spirit
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Tue May-15-01 09:46 AM

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2. "that's damn good!"
In response to Reply # 1


  

          

what do you mean "that's all"?

there were probably less than 15 rap records that year that sold as much.

and Com only had one hit single and isn't affiliated with any multi-platinum "big dogs" like Ruff Ryders or Roc-a-Fella.

I'd say it's DAMN GOOD to go from selling an average of around 150,000 a record to 670,000.

Sheesh.

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit Equality

MAY IS "J.U.I.C.E. IS ILL AS HELL" MONTH. GET THIS MAN'S MATERIAL BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

"Sincerely"
When I design rhyme in daylight
Or primetime I stay tight
I walk the fine line
between an emcee and a playwright
I represent the underground world, it's a unique scene
There's no record deals, no videos and street teams
I do shows to keep green
I know I'm not a star man,
I'm signed to myself
And my mic's my A&R man
In double nine I guess it's just a sign of the times
The spotlight that I've been looking for is finally mine
I never thought about the dough when I'm designing my rhyme
As long as I can reach my peoples over vinyl I'm fine
It ain't about that
I opened up for cats who ain't as dope as me
While I ripped the flow, they lip synched the show hopelessly
From Heaven I was sent to the game to entertain
I may never pimp that '75 ta cop that blue Range Rover
But even if I don't remain sober
I'ma score double digits
till the fuckin' games over

- J.U.I.C.E. (from '99), "Sincerely"

ps: COMICS ARTIST NEEDED!!!!!!!! INBOX ME!!!!!

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux -
Just listen, you will believe...

"In the first forty years of the twentieth century, about half of all
blacks who were killed, were killed by law enforcement." - Tim Wise, shocking statistic of the moment

"Smack it up, Flip It, Rub It Down.. OH NOOOO!! - This always intrigued me. What horrible catastrophe was caused by rubbing it down? If he just stopped after flipping it could this tragedy have been avoided?" - jsmooth995, LOL of the month


Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

  

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3. "tight as album is"
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670k is half of everybody logged in on this site.
He should of done better being red went plat off doc2000
and that wasn't as tight as comm
nop doubt i glad he reached this mark but damn
this is one of those albums people are goin to be running back to get later on in life
buy LWFC right nowDAMMNIT!!!


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MrIdontgiveafuckalupugus

Tue May-15-01 09:59 AM

  
5. "Nice to see com finally get some sales"
In response to Reply # 3


          

Maybe next time around he'll got platinum. All too often we see garbage albums going 2X and 3X and it should only be fair that Com atleast go plat. About redman going platinum it was his first time, and he's someone else that deserved it. Artist like these put in mad work and itz about time the get some recognition. A lil' MTV exposure helps everyone.

  

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spirit
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6. "misconceptions"
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>670k is half of everybody logged
>in on this site.

this site gets 300,000 hits. That doesn't mean there are 300,000 people logged in with screen names.

Besides that, you are assuming even the people who come here are Common fans. Some are D'Angelo fans strictly. And a lot of folks who were Com fans post-LWFC didn't like the change in sonic direction (i.e. the "bring back NO I.D." coalition).

>He should of done better being
>red went plat off doc2000

Red is part of the Def Jam machine. Red had club hits. Red had several gold albums before Doc's the Name and only added to his built-in fan base. Com, by contrast, did not have club hits and never had anywhere NEAR a gold album pre-LWFC. These situations (Red to Com) aren't analogous.

>and that wasn't as tight as
>comm

It's not about dopeness nowadays as far as sales are concerned. Sure, Aceyalone is a doper emcee than Jermaine Dupri. Whose solo album do you think sold more? It's about hits, marketing, etc.

>nop doubt i glad he reached
>this mark but damn
>this is one of those albums
>people are goin to be
>running back to get later
>on in life
>buy LWFC right nowDAMMNIT!!!

I concur.

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit Equality

MAY IS "J.U.I.C.E. IS ILL AS HELL" MONTH. GET THIS MAN'S MATERIAL BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

"Sincerely"
When I design rhyme in daylight
Or primetime I stay tight
I walk the fine line
between an emcee and a playwright
I represent the underground world, it's a unique scene
There's no record deals, no videos and street teams
I do shows to keep green
I know I'm not a star man,
I'm signed to myself
And my mic's my A&R man
In double nine I guess it's just a sign of the times
The spotlight that I've been looking for is finally mine
I never thought about the dough when I'm designing my rhyme
As long as I can reach my peoples over vinyl I'm fine
It ain't about that
I opened up for cats who ain't as dope as me
While I ripped the flow, they lip synched the show hopelessly
From Heaven I was sent to the game to entertain
I may never pimp that '75 ta cop that blue Range Rover
But even if I don't remain sober
I'ma score double digits
till the fuckin' games over

- J.U.I.C.E. (from '99), "Sincerely"

ps: COMICS ARTIST NEEDED!!!!!!!! INBOX ME!!!!!

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux -
Just listen, you will believe...

"In the first forty years of the twentieth century, about half of all
blacks who were killed, were killed by law enforcement." - Tim Wise, shocking statistic of the moment

"Smack it up, Flip It, Rub It Down.. OH NOOOO!! - This always intrigued me. What horrible catastrophe was caused by rubbing it down? If he just stopped after flipping it could this tragedy have been avoided?" - jsmooth995, LOL of the month


Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

  

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spirit
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7. "I meant *pre* LWFC"
In response to Reply # 6


  

          

I meant a lot of people who were fans *pre*-LWFC were upset at the change in sonic direction. But y'all probably got that from context.

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit Equality

MAY IS "J.U.I.C.E. IS ILL AS HELL" MONTH. GET THIS MAN'S MATERIAL BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

"Sincerely"
When I design rhyme in daylight
Or primetime I stay tight
I walk the fine line
between an emcee and a playwright
I represent the underground world, it's a unique scene
There's no record deals, no videos and street teams
I do shows to keep green
I know I'm not a star man,
I'm signed to myself
And my mic's my A&R man
In double nine I guess it's just a sign of the times
The spotlight that I've been looking for is finally mine
I never thought about the dough when I'm designing my rhyme
As long as I can reach my peoples over vinyl I'm fine
It ain't about that
I opened up for cats who ain't as dope as me
While I ripped the flow, they lip synched the show hopelessly
From Heaven I was sent to the game to entertain
I may never pimp that '75 ta cop that blue Range Rover
But even if I don't remain sober
I'ma score double digits
till the fuckin' games over

- J.U.I.C.E. (from '99), "Sincerely"

ps: COMICS ARTIST NEEDED!!!!!!!! INBOX ME!!!!!

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux -
Just listen, you will believe...

"In the first forty years of the twentieth century, about half of all
blacks who were killed, were killed by law enforcement." - Tim Wise, shocking statistic of the moment

"Smack it up, Flip It, Rub It Down.. OH NOOOO!! - This always intrigued me. What horrible catastrophe was caused by rubbing it down? If he just stopped after flipping it could this tragedy have been avoided?" - jsmooth995, LOL of the month


Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

  

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9. "comm had 2 hit singles..."
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and 1 that did decent. the light, geto heaven rmx, and 6th sense.
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28. "RE: comm had 2 hit singles..."
In response to Reply # 9


  

          

I never heard Geto Heaven remix on the radio. Not once.

Was it a hit?

Label Guy?

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit Equality

MAY IS "J.U.I.C.E. IS ILL AS HELL" MONTH. GET THIS MAN'S MATERIAL BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

"Sincerely"
When I design rhyme in daylight
Or primetime I stay tight
I walk the fine line
between an emcee and a playwright
I represent the underground world, it's a unique scene
There's no record deals, no videos and street teams
I do shows to keep green
I know I'm not a star man,
I'm signed to myself
And my mic's my A&R man
In double nine I guess it's just a sign of the times
The spotlight that I've been looking for is finally mine
I never thought about the dough when I'm designing my rhyme
As long as I can reach my peoples over vinyl I'm fine
It ain't about that
I opened up for cats who ain't as dope as me
While I ripped the flow, they lip synched the show hopelessly
From Heaven I was sent to the game to entertain
I may never pimp that '75 ta cop that blue Range Rover
But even if I don't remain sober
I'ma score double digits
till the fuckin' games over

- J.U.I.C.E. (from '99), "Sincerely"

ps: COMICS ARTIST NEEDED!!!!!!!! INBOX ME!!!!!

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux -
Just listen, you will believe...

"In the first forty years of the twentieth century, about half of all
blacks who were killed, were killed by law enforcement." - Tim Wise, shocking statistic of the moment

"Smack it up, Flip It, Rub It Down.. OH NOOOO!! - This always intrigued me. What horrible catastrophe was caused by rubbing it down? If he just stopped after flipping it could this tragedy have been avoided?" - jsmooth995, LOL of the month


Peace,

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33. "RE: comm had 2 hit singles..."
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i heard it. it got bumped. he performed it on leno. you don't go on leno and play shit nobody heard.
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underground everything -tekzilla 12"'s and the FINAL Company Flow T-shirt


MY LATEST RAP ALIASES- mcbadfeet aka: the mayor goldie wilson of rap, aka big chris the juicebox, aka jesus jones retired messiah, aka the black jamie lawson of rap, aka thurgood killabitch the IV, aka brooklyn jackson from queens, aka homer pimpson, aka alex p. cheatin, aka benny ill, aka stank sinatra, aka michael j. rocks

  

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34. "Ghetto Heavan was not a hit"
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according to LG

which is why Common didnt go plat according LG's theory

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36. "RE: my man !!!"
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someone is paying attention!
Brandard, you've made my day.

By the way BT's "Pussy Galore" is kinda hott....maybe okayplayer can stream it here ASAP. MCA is sending it to select DJ's June 1.
We need a clean version from Motive ASAP ("Kitty Galore"?)

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43. "so who are you?"
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exactly?
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underground everything -tekzilla 12"'s and the FINAL Company Flow T-shirt


MY LATEST RAP ALIASES- mcbadfeet aka: the mayor goldie wilson of rap, aka big chris the juicebox, aka jesus jones retired messiah, aka the black jamie lawson of rap, aka thurgood killabitch the IV, aka brooklyn jackson from queens, aka homer pimpson, aka alex p. cheatin, aka benny ill, aka stank sinatra, aka michael j. rocks

  

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44. "Lol!"
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June 1st! is that earliet than a single would normally be sent to DJ's? the album is still coming in Sept. right?

going to be a busy summer for you guys, good luck.

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11. "dude"
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re-fucking-lax.
i was under the impression that there was talk about him having a platinum party.

sorry for asking.
jeezes fucking christ.
take a chill pill.


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29. "*choking on chill pill*"
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*doing the Harlem Shake to expel chill pill from esophagus*

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit Equality

MAY IS "J.U.I.C.E. IS ILL AS HELL" MONTH. GET THIS MAN'S MATERIAL BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

"Sincerely"
When I design rhyme in daylight
Or primetime I stay tight
I walk the fine line
between an emcee and a playwright
I represent the underground world, it's a unique scene
There's no record deals, no videos and street teams
I do shows to keep green
I know I'm not a star man,
I'm signed to myself
And my mic's my A&R man
In double nine I guess it's just a sign of the times
The spotlight that I've been looking for is finally mine
I never thought about the dough when I'm designing my rhyme
As long as I can reach my peoples over vinyl I'm fine
It ain't about that
I opened up for cats who ain't as dope as me
While I ripped the flow, they lip synched the show hopelessly
From Heaven I was sent to the game to entertain
I may never pimp that '75 ta cop that blue Range Rover
But even if I don't remain sober
I'ma score double digits
till the fuckin' games over

- J.U.I.C.E. (from '99), "Sincerely"

ps: COMICS ARTIST NEEDED!!!!!!!! INBOX ME!!!!!

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux -
Just listen, you will believe...

"In the first forty years of the twentieth century, about half of all
blacks who were killed, were killed by law enforcement." - Tim Wise, shocking statistic of the moment

"Smack it up, Flip It, Rub It Down.. OH NOOOO!! - This always intrigued me. What horrible catastrophe was caused by rubbing it down? If he just stopped after flipping it could this tragedy have been avoided?" - jsmooth995, LOL of the month


Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
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45. "bwahaha"
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cute.
call 911...

wyclef's the operator.


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4. "RE: Com sells 670,000"
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MAN, HE SHOULD'VE SOLD MORE THAN THAT...... MAYBE IF HE STARTS RAPPIN BOUT IGNORANT ISH HE'LL HIT 1 MILL...... NAW, JUST BULLSIHIN, KEEP DOIN YA THING DAWG...... I COUNT FOR TWO OF THOSE...... CAUSE I HAD TO HAVE IT .....

"Niggas mad cause Ibrags about the cash I got, but I'm used to not havin alot, I'm from the gutter and ohh..."-Jay-Z

"Expensive shoes worn, Loui Viton see-through gone, CoChes, my face is like a coupon..."Jay-Z

  

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8. "he WILL hit one mill"
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next album...

MCA seems behind him...he sold a solid 670,000 and he's been touring heavily. I think he's going to hit the one mill next album if his lead single has what it needs (and I know Quest knows the "secret single sauce" now).

Thoughtfully yours,

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When I design rhyme in daylight
Or primetime I stay tight
I walk the fine line
between an emcee and a playwright
I represent the underground world, it's a unique scene
There's no record deals, no videos and street teams
I do shows to keep green
I know I'm not a star man,
I'm signed to myself
And my mic's my A&R man
In double nine I guess it's just a sign of the times
The spotlight that I've been looking for is finally mine
I never thought about the dough when I'm designing my rhyme
As long as I can reach my peoples over vinyl I'm fine
It ain't about that
I opened up for cats who ain't as dope as me
While I ripped the flow, they lip synched the show hopelessly
From Heaven I was sent to the game to entertain
I may never pimp that '75 ta cop that blue Range Rover
But even if I don't remain sober
I'ma score double digits
till the fuckin' games over

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epluribusunum
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10. "damn bootleggers"
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we all know com's platinum on da streets


  

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12. "he's gotta be platinum..."
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worldwide at least. I know he had to sell at least another
230,000 overseas. I know those japanes fucks love them some common. And you those shitheads in germany picked it up. I shouldn't even have to mention those cocksucking british pricks.
And wax too.......c'mon common need's a fuckin plaque.
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ubiquitous

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27. "RE: he's gotta be platinum..."
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>those cocksucking british pricks.

I do not appreciate that.

  

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spirit
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30. "worldwide..."
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I'm sure he sold a million worldwide, but that's not how it works in terms of getting a platinum plaque stateside. He has to sell a million copies _in the US_ to get his plaque here. He might have gone gold in one of the European territories (in a lot of countries, selling 50,000 is gold).

Thoughtfully yours,

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MAY IS "J.U.I.C.E. IS ILL AS HELL" MONTH. GET THIS MAN'S MATERIAL BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

"Sincerely"
When I design rhyme in daylight
Or primetime I stay tight
I walk the fine line
between an emcee and a playwright
I represent the underground world, it's a unique scene
There's no record deals, no videos and street teams
I do shows to keep green
I know I'm not a star man,
I'm signed to myself
And my mic's my A&R man
In double nine I guess it's just a sign of the times
The spotlight that I've been looking for is finally mine
I never thought about the dough when I'm designing my rhyme
As long as I can reach my peoples over vinyl I'm fine
It ain't about that
I opened up for cats who ain't as dope as me
While I ripped the flow, they lip synched the show hopelessly
From Heaven I was sent to the game to entertain
I may never pimp that '75 ta cop that blue Range Rover
But even if I don't remain sober
I'ma score double digits
till the fuckin' games over

- J.U.I.C.E. (from '99), "Sincerely"

ps: COMICS ARTIST NEEDED!!!!!!!! INBOX ME!!!!!

http://www.mp3.com/miscellaneousflux -
Just listen, you will believe...

"In the first forty years of the twentieth century, about half of all
blacks who were killed, were killed by law enforcement." - Tim Wise, shocking statistic of the moment

"Smack it up, Flip It, Rub It Down.. OH NOOOO!! - This always intrigued me. What horrible catastrophe was caused by rubbing it down? If he just stopped after flipping it could this tragedy have been avoided?" - jsmooth995, LOL of the month


Peace,

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32. "otay. tanks."
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13. "RE: damn bootleggers"
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No doubt, Comm went 2x platnium in my heart. I wish I had heard of him before Like Water For Choclate, however. Anyway, I hope the next album will be even better than Like Water.. whatever it's gonna be called. I'm also sure he will go platnium for real this time. It puts a smile on my face to see dope emcees sell good numbers without having "to lose self in trying to win fans over" (see- "Nag Champa")

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14. "RE: damn bootleggers"
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neone else think that the sixth sense video was some tyte shit? damn, i mean what great concept and execution. bet u won't see caron plugging for com's shit though, the lyrics aren't NEARLY as good as Joey McIntyre's. MTV does play common all the time though, as background music, and as music on specials. never his videos though...........

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16. "my favorite video of the year"
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probably
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22. "RE: damn bootleggers"
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anybody know where I might be able to see that video? I had no idea the sixth sense had a video


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26. "RE: damn bootleggers"
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i copped the album...i also DLd it from Napster...and it was one of the better 2000 albums...still can't touch dead prez or MOP tho...but its in my top 5 for shizzle

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15. "It's great for Com"
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peace..

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17. "he would go plat..."
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if he would use my "funky for u" video idea , I'm sure if i directed it I could squeeze another 230 thou out in a week of hittin TRL..

Then yall could check out my crib, a la Redman style, on MTV Cribs.

  

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18. "RE: Com sells 670,000"
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For real 670,000 is a big disappointment. Think Jill Scott's joint went platinum without the benefit of a single that did as well as "The Light". MCA dropped the ball by waiting too long to follow up "The Light" with another single, and then releasing that bullshit, happy ass GETO Heaven Re-mix featuring Macy Gray. Obviously that was an attempt to appeal to the MTV crossover audience, but the heads, and radio didn't give a damn about it.

Going gold means nothing these days, Comm went gold off the strength of "The Light", period, MCA should have came with the fire after that. Also how come Com couldn't see that the re-mix to GETO Heaven was straight wack!!! It was one of my favorites on the albums, now everytime the BS comes on the VH1 Soul Channel, I turn.

Bottomline, Com should have been platinum. But him going gold simply means that he probably won't get dropped from the label, and we can expect another album in the near future. Don't expect platinum though, judging by the success (or lack thereof) of "Things Fall Apart", it's obvious that MCA has no clue how to promote progressive hip-hop.



  

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19. "RE: Com sells 670,000"
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Hey I feel you SirLau , then could you please stop these so-called progressive artists from coming here interested in doing business with MCA. Too late on Blackalicious though, you should have talked to then before they came here. I tried to warn them. Also when you see Common, tell him to squash that sickening positivity that he always has and to tell him that his last project was an unfulfilled failure.
Damn, it took Def Jam many years & albums before they got Redman platinum. Maybe will get it on the 2nd Common album we work.

It seems you & I have some work to do.

LG
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LG
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20. "Damn Napster too!!"
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I'd say most rappers fall victom to Napster. Since napster, I've bought very few cd's b/c theres usually only 1-4 good tracks on them, plus bullsh*t skits.

Okayartists, Neptunes, J-Dilla, Hi Tek, Mos Def suffer too, most of y'all already had that sh*t b/f it dropped. Basically, anyone who's not getting burn on TRL will significantly lose out on record sales. Most high school, college kids, young adults who got access to the nets, r downloading the tracks they like & f*ck a soundscan.



  

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21. "RE: Com sells 670,000"
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Spoken like a true label guy. Even you know that ?estlove isn't even happy with the way you promoted TFA. And by the way I did my part, even though I got several copies of both TFA and LWFC for free, I went out and bought two copies of each. One for me and one as a gift to a friend. So as a fan, and supporter of positive hip-hop, I did my job. Actually I probably did more than the average fan. But let's be real, LG, Geto Heaven Re-mix was wack. That's why it didn't do well, and why MCA stopped pushing the album, even though the adds kept billing it as "soon to be platinum". And if I did see Common I would tell him that I wasn't feeling the re-mix that's what a true fan does. But thanks for your commentary, you know I've been doing my job as a fan of hip-hop since '84, and I haven't received one check...

Love is Love,

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JKilla

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23. "RE: Com sells 670,000"
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Yo honestly if you ask Common I don't think he wants to go platnium. Once you go platnium you have to change your whole style, and Com is not for that. Most emcees that don't go platnium stay true to emcee and not selling records just to sell them. Just look at most of the platnium emcees that weren't platnium they're first CD it was Classic( illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, etc.)

  

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SirLau
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24. "RE: Com would love to go platinum"
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Trust me bro, Common wants to go platinum. "I'd be lyin' if I said I didn't wanna make millions" - the 6th Sense. Don't you think this somewhat softer album shows that Common wanted more mainstream acceptance? Quite honestly, I'm not mad at the product, with the exception of the Geto Heaven re-mix, but mostly I think MCA did a poor job capitalizing on the momentum of "The Light". Just as they did when they didn't come correct with "The Roots" after the success of "You Got Me". Put it like this, Mos Def probably sold more units than Common, without the benefit of a mjor record label or a hit single.

  

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35. "RE: slow down toughguy...."
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but mostly I think MCA
>did a poor job
>capitalizing on the momentum of
>"The Light".
Did it ever dawn on you that it took "the Light" to get to that level? If he didn't get to "the Light" he wouldn't have gone gold on NO label. And by the way you didn't touch my Redman analogy from earlier in the thread.
Look at the game, the power house label Interscope pushed the HELL out of the Black Eye Peas "hey DJ" single (MAJOR MTV) and their album but the bottom line is consumers wasn't feelin it. Sh*t they only sold 154,000 units with a major label push.

Just as
>they did when they didn't
>come correct with "The Roots"
>after the success of "You
>Got Me".
What was the obvious 2nd single RADIO cut from TFA? I guess my version of the album didn't have that BIG 2nd single that your copy has.

Put it like
>this, Mos Def probably sold
>more units than Common
Do your homework.....
LWFC=671,540 units scanned
BOBS=540,292

Dawg, look at the game......the hip-hop artists we like don't fit into the stereotypical mainstream sh*t that consumers buy. It takes hitz to get plaques for our underdog rap heroes.
I've stated this before:
no hits = no plaque
one hit = gold plaque
consecutive hits = platinum
w/Dr. Dre = platinum

I'm really pullin for okay hip-hop artists to have back to back monster hits (not with just us but with the bulk of the buying public) so we can get the platinum.

And I've been broke on the road with Common on the Best of the Underground tour in '94 (Common, Organized Konfusion, Beatnuts, Artifacts....I was road managing Org. Konf....believe me artists want to eat good just like the rest of us. The road is harder but at least cats can look at themselves in the mirror and be proud of their work. Just concentrate on connecting with the marketplace.
Now I'm done with this discussion. Back to work.

LG
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38. "sugarplum?"
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save u're keystrokes.


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All of this and more is 4 U/With love, sincerity and deepest care/My life with U, with U, I share Ė for you
I play the fool when we're 2gether/But I cry when we're apart, yeah/I couldn't do U no better/Don't break what's left of my broken heart, baby Ėwhy you wanna treat me so bad
In my daddy's car/It's U I really wanna drive Ė dirty mind
Here we are looking 4 a reason/4 U 2 lay me down/4 a love like ours is never out of season/So baby, please stop teasing me/Ooh, what U do, I can never love no other/U're the best I ever had, ooh/Whenever we're not close 2 one another/I just want U so bad Ė do me baby
Some people tell me I got great legs/Can't figure out why U make me beg/Does not compute/Don't not compute Ė something in the water does not compute
Dr. Everything'll Be Alright will make everything go wrong/Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill/Hang tough children- letís go crazy
Everybody's lookin' 4 the ladder/Everybody wants salvation of the soul/The steps U take are no easy road/But the reward is great 4 those who wanna go - the ladder
U said the devil told U that another mountain would appear/Every time somebody broke your heart/He said the sea would one day overflow with all your tears/And love will always leave U lonely Ė mountains
I came and took your love, I took your body/I took the self-respect U ever had/I took U 4 a ride and baby, I'm sorry/The more U love me, sugar, the more it makes me mad Ė strange relationship
Come bathe with me Ė let's drown each other in each other's emotions/Bathe with me Ė let's cover each other with perfume and lotion/Bathe with me Ė ooh, let me touch your body till your river's an ocean/Bathe with me Ė let's kiss with one synonymous notion Ė when 2 r in love
Love - if U're there come save me/From all this cold despair/I can hang when U're around/But I'll surely die if U're not there Ė thieves in the temple
Sexy motherfucker shakin' that ass, shakin' that ass, shakin' that ass- sexy motherfucker
And by the stroke of midnight she wanted some more (more)/Showin' dirty movies like some kind of whore Ė dinner w/delores
Loving U in silence, knowing that it's right Ė soul sanctuary
2night, hey, I'm a movie star /I see myself on a silver screen, huh /2night, it don't matter who U are /I'm the only star on the scene / U know what I mean? - movie star
Now the moon and the sun belong 2 me/All my wildest hopes, my crazy dreams /But they seem more like reality- she spoke 2 me

My level is now what U must learn 2 rise above/Talk 2 D'Angelo or better yet ?uestlove/It might take (y'all) U some time, but U will learn 2 see/The undisputed truth and get free Ė Undisputed


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39. "RE: sugarplum?"
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Sorry, been away from the boards for a while and folks were using my name in vain.....you liked the show in NYC right? oh I forgot you fronted.......hehehehe.

LG
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46. "it's been boring around here w/out you"
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angie's gone, the A's are sucking ass, punks like A.I. winning MVP awards, damn prince fans taking over...

I needed a good LG rant thread to reassure me that all is right in the world.

RED
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47. "RE: whoa big guy......"
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I was feelin you until you fronted on A.I.
DON'T FRONT ON VIRGINIA !!!!!!

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58. "eff him and the Squires"
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just playing.

And I don't hate the prince fans either.

But there is utter chaos around here.

RED
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49. "RE: sugarplum?"
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.....you liked the show in
>NYC right? oh I forgot
>you fronted.......hehehehe.
>

how u gonna out me in public?



i promise i won't front at my grand opening premiere

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51. "RE: Label Guy,"
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Label guy, you seem like your torn between the bullshit of the industry, and being a fan of good hip-hop. But you seem like you have good enough intentions.

Now about your Redman analogy:

Don't you agree that the game has changed significantly since "Whut, the Album"? Because of consolidation of radio, the influence of consultants, isn't it alot easier for rap artists to get nationwide airplay (ie hits). What was your formula again? one hit=gold. Now since you have the benefit of pulling up soundscan and probably Billboard archives, can you tell me if Redman has ever had a song that hit close to Top 40 on the Billboard charts, like "The Light" did? Redman went platinum in a time when "Hip-Hop radio" had matured to the point where it could help truly send an artist to that level.

Now about Mos Def, once again you add credence to my point. Number one, he defied your rule, no hit=gold. Okay, so Common sold about 100K more, which is significant, but don't you think all those spins on radio and BET should have equated to more?


You never addressed the wackness of the Geto Heaven remix, so I'm assuming that you agree.

You also never addressed whether or not ?uestlove was happy with the effort MCA put forth in promoting TFA, maybe coolquest himself can address that.

But in the grand scheme of things, I'm glad the project did what it did, 'cause now the brother can live a little, and we can look forward to another album.

Keep doing your job brother!!!

  

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63. "RE: Label Guy, this is my final answer"
In response to Reply # 51


          

>Label guy, you seem like your
>torn between the bullshit of
>the industry, and being a
>fan of good hip-hop.
>But you seem like you
>have good enough intentions.
true.

>Now about your Redman analogy:
>
>Don't you agree that the game
>has changed significantly since "Whut,
>the Album"?
of course, the game always changes, the soldiers persevere
Because of
>consolidation of radio, the influence
>of consultants, isn't it alot
>easier for rap artists to
>get nationwide airplay (ie hits).
only if it has a certain hook/sound that connects with the marketplace. stations lately determine how long they bang something based more on requests, callout research, consumer feedback.

> What was your formula
>again? one hit=gold.
yeah for the 21st century including 1999.

>Now since you have the
>benefit of pulling up soundscan
>and probably Billboard archives, can
>you tell me if Redman
>has ever had a song
>that hit close to Top
>40 on the Billboard charts,
>like "The Light" did?
>Redman went platinum in a
>time when "Hip-Hop radio" had
>matured to the point where
>it could help truly send
>an artist to that level.

>Now about Mos Def, once again
>you add credence to my
>point. Number one, he
>defied your rule, no hit=gold.
yeah, so did Pharoahe Monch & MOP - both had hits and both didn't get a plaque. Black Rob had a big-ass hit and went platinum. There are of course exceptions to the rule which I always stated when I first put my theory out there. Most of the data supports my theory though so my batting average is should be kinda high.

>You never addressed the wackness of
>the Geto Heaven remix, so
>I'm assuming that you agree.
.......

>You also never addressed whether or
>not ?uestlove was happy with
>the effort MCA put forth
>in promoting TFA, maybe coolquest
>himself can address that.
what was that second follow-up single from TFA that's on your copy of the album again?

>But in the grand scheme of
>things, I'm glad the project
>did what it did, 'cause
>now the brother can live
>a little, and we can
>look forward to another album.
true

>Keep doing your job brother!!!
i'm tryin

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40. "that has to be...."
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the dumbest thing that i've ever heard.


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42. "It came on Saturday!! YAY!!!"
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>FROM THE GROUND UP- ROOTS 2nd
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31. "you're not in the industry"
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>For real 670,000 is a big
>disappointment.

You're not in the industry, are you?

Name 15 hip-hop albums that sold 670,000 units in 2000.

Do you have any idea how many hip-hop albums were released in 2000?

Do you realize that LWFC sold far more than any previous Common album?

So, how on earth was it a disappointment, being by far the best selling album of his career?

> Think Jill Scott's
>joint went platinum without the
>benefit of a single that
>did as well as "The
>Light".

Wrong. I heard Jill Scott on the radio MUCH more than Common. Did Com perform at The Grammies? Jill did (with Moby, right?). Is Common going on an arena tour with Sting? Jill is. Did I not see "Gettin In The Way" every 30 minutes on MTV2 (and that is NOT an exagerration).

> MCA dropped the
>ball by waiting too long
>to follow up "The Light"
>with another single

blah.

Do you realize how many hip-hop projects don't even see the release of a second single? Besides, radio is notoriously closed right now. It takes a lot to get them to add the first single, let alone the second single.

Again, you aren't in the industry, are you?

> and then
>releasing that bullshit, happy ass
>GETO Heaven Re-mix featuring Macy
>Gray. Obviously that was
>an attempt to appeal to
>the MTV crossover audience, but
>the heads, and radio didn't
>give a damn about it.

Well, this is a tricky business. Like I said, radio playlists aren't known for their flexibility, particularly urban radio.

>Going gold means nothing these days,

You really aren't in the industry.

>Comm went gold off the
>strength of "The Light", period,
>MCA should have came with
>the fire after that.

And the record label you work for is...?

>Bottomline, Com should have been platinum.

Besides Xzibit, I can't think of a hip-hop artist that had previous albums not even go gold, then hit platinum mid-career. And that's only because Dre scooped up Xzibit (giving him the mainstream seal of approval). Rapping with Snoop on a radio hit, sure didn't hurt (B Please).

>But him going gold simply
>means that he probably won't
>get dropped from the label,
>and we can expect another
>album in the near future.

You know how many people repeatedly do not go gold who are still signed? Beatnuts come to mind immediately.

> Don't expect platinum though,
>judging by the success (or
>lack thereof) of "Things Fall
>Apart", it's obvious that MCA
>has no clue how to
>promote progressive hip-hop.

After giving Com and The Roots' their first gold albums, I have to violently disagree with you.

Who DOES know how to promote progressive hip-hop? Talib Kweli and Pharoah aren't gold yet, are you cursing the name of Rawkus?

Thoughtfully yours,

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50. "RE: you're not in the industry"
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You're right, I'm not in the industry, and glad for that. But don't try to front like I'm not makin' valid points. No one has addressed the fact that the GETO Heaven re-mix was THE WACK. I am fully aware that about 2% of all albums released account for half of all album sales. All the Jill Scott stuff you alluded to happened after she went platinum (Sting Tour, Grammys etc.). Now do your homework, Mr. Industry, check the billboard charts to see if anny of Jill's singles have done as well as "The Light" (#43 pop charts, Top 10 R&B Charts).

  

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53. "RE: you're not in the industry"
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. No one
>has addressed the fact that
>the GETO Heaven re-mix was
>THE WACK.

i'll address it, it wasn't wack. it was quite good.......just cause u don't like it means nothing to the 670,000 people that bought the album WITHOUT the remix....remix means a different version of the original.

I am
>fully aware that about 2%
>of all albums released account
>for half of all album
>sales.

where in hell did u get that statistic from?



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55. "RE: you're not in the industry"
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Billboard Magazine ha.

  

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62. "RE: you're not in the industry"
In response to Reply # 53


          

I don't know about where you guys are, but The Light remix with E. Badu is the hit in the mellow club atmosphere in the Chi. I think MCA should have brought that out. Coupled with the controversy over their romance, it may have helped LWFC reach that platinum plaque. Just a thought...

  

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54. "RE: you're not in the industry"
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Jill had 2 singles in the top 50 pop charts(Gettin In The Way and A Long Walk) and gets way more radio airplay than Common. And she had airplay before the Grammys, was platinum before the Sting Tour, so your point is not backed up.

  

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56. "RE: you're not in the industry"
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That's my whole point o clairvoyant one, she went platinum before all that other stuff. READ!!!

  

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57. "apples and oranges"
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did I forget to state the obvious?

the R&B market and the hip-hop market are apples and oranges.

comparing Jill Scott to Common in a marketing context is like...comparing D'angelo to The Roots...hip-hop records and R&B records are marketed differently...

ps: Use your billboard research skills to find out how many spins Jill got for "Gettin In The Way" and "The Long Walk" compared with "The Light" and "Geto Heaven (rmx)". Therein lies your answer.

pps: The rotation Jill got on MTV2 came BEFORE her platinum status, thank you very much. WELL before.

Thoughtfully yours,

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Or primetime I stay tight
I walk the fine line
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I represent the underground world, it's a unique scene
There's no record deals, no videos and street teams
I do shows to keep green
I know I'm not a star man,
I'm signed to myself
And my mic's my A&R man
In double nine I guess it's just a sign of the times
The spotlight that I've been looking for is finally mine
I never thought about the dough when I'm designing my rhyme
As long as I can reach my peoples over vinyl I'm fine
It ain't about that
I opened up for cats who ain't as dope as me
While I ripped the flow, they lip synched the show hopelessly
From Heaven I was sent to the game to entertain
I may never pimp that '75 ta cop that blue Range Rover
But even if I don't remain sober
I'ma score double digits
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59. "RE: How 'bout 'dem apples?"
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How many people have MTV2? Not me and I have digital cable?

Point well taken abour marketing hip-hop and r&B records.

  

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37. "???"
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that geto heaven remix was the shit. no way around it...say it wasn't a hit...ok.....say "heads" wasn't feeling it...well they missed out.....but i'll be damned if smoebody says the geto heaven remix wasn't the shit. raw ass single fo' sho.
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52. "RE: ???"
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Wack, wack, wack, wack, did I mention wack?

  

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60. "i think you did.."
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man u still smokin. how about the roots remix of remindin me of sef? wack too huh?
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61. "here here"
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very good reply.
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25. "bring back no I.D.!!!!"
In response to Reply # 0


          

common needs to go back to dropping lines over no i.d.
beats... i understand his afinity for his new okayplayer crew,
but yo, soul by the pound, resurrection, i used to love h.e.r.
made him who he is today... i hope his next album has
a better balance and includes that chicago flavor....
maybe some guest spots for vakill, capital D and j.u.ice..
that'll be a platinum to my ears.

j

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41. "RE: bring back no I.D.!!!!"
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Even though I preferred NO I.D.'s production over Jay Dee's, I think with the success that Common had on LWFC, he's not going to go backwards and I can do nothing but respect that. And I seriously feel that One Day should have gone gold. Why "Retrospect For Life" didn't blow him up just boggles the fuck outta my mind. The next choices for singles were mistakes I believe. "Remindin' Me of Sef" kinda alienated me at first. And even though I loved Hungry and Invocation, whoever decided that should be the last video from the CD made a very huge mistake. I think a stolen Moments video combining the 3 parts woul have been dope. Even G.O.D. or All Night Long would have made better choices.

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Iím tired of haviní to drag myself up outta bed before Iím fully rested
Born in slums that were infested, everyday Iím beiní tested
The bullshitís the worldís feediní me is not easily digested
They tell me to keep hope alive, but Iím not really interested
ĎCuz Iím tired of watchiní all my dreams go up in smoke
Iím tired of breakiní my back every day, and still beiní broke
Lifeís a fuckiní joke, Iím stuck between a rock and a hard place
Tryiní to live by the ways of the world, and still remain in Godís grace
The worldís a dark place, I was told that the sun would shine forever
But itís like me and my wife never get a chance to spend any time together
And itís teariní apart my heart, Iím tryiní to chart my lifeís timetable
But itís a rare occasion when Iím able to keep my mind stable
Itís like my spirit canít be free, if I abide by all these policies
I came from poverty, so Iíve always dreamed of a life of a better quality
But Iíll probably end up gettingí stabbed in the back wití a sharp dagger
I know the futureís there, but it canít be seen like dark matter
So why, does it always feel
Like my chances for success ainít real
This cold world sends multiple chills, down my spine
These negative thoughts have bounced around my mind, like a thousand times
My legs about to give out tryiní to live out my final fantasy
How can it be, that Iím half the man that I never got a chance to be
Financially, dollars ainít makiní no sense, itís intense
As the world clashes, my soul burns down to ashes like incense
Iím tryiní to leave my imprints on the face of the earth
But wití all the strife, it feels like my life was wasted at birth
Face in the dirt, got me thinkiní, why the fuck do I even bother
Donít know how I learned to be a man, Ďcuz I ainít never had a father
And it gets harder, tryiní to go on every day wití the stress
They tell me to lay them thoughts to rest, becuz they say Iíve been blessed
My heartís meltiní away in my chest, and occasionally, Iíll notice a gray hair
Itís like the world is trapped in darkness, and I really donít wanna stay there
But itís kinda hard to win at the game of life, if you play fair
And I really canít explain it to my family, even though I know that they care
The lightís at the end of the tunnel, Iím tryiní to make my way there
The lightís a long fuckiní way from me, but Iím tryiní to make my way there

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Look on my life
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48. "RE: bring back no I.D.!!!!"
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Even G.O.D. or
>All Night Long would have
>made better choices.


All Nite long was the shit and would have been a hit single fo sho. I was in high school when that came out and I swear to you iused to listen to that song all day! Maybe I was wack, but a shortened version with Badu in the vide would have made that man more than gold. He'd have pushed platinum. That song would have rocked in the club during the middle of a nice r and b set. His label dropped the ball on that.



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