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"OKPro Wrassling: The Road to Wrestlemania"


  

          

Royal Rumble Predictions are now live. Please note that the WWE title match is a handicapped match, so Owens, Zayn, or Owens/Zayn will all be considered the same answer. If you MUST write "Kami" then I will count that as well. That being said, I want "Kami" to die a quick death and urge all of you to never write or say "Kami."

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I'm thinking about going to Strong Style Evolved
Jan 25th 2018
1
this is the wrong board for talking you out of this
Jan 25th 2018
3
Because if there's one thing the Women's Rumble needs, it's a McMahon
Jan 25th 2018
2
i hope she wins lmao.
Jan 25th 2018
4
Then she can beat Asuka clean at some point
Jan 25th 2018
6
the McMahons should only be around to receive stunners
Jan 25th 2018
5
Any thoughts on Takeover fellas?
Jan 25th 2018
7
Hero's in NXT to be a mini-boss.
Jan 25th 2018
8
is he “credibly tough” ? He’s a skinny dude who’s fat.
Jan 25th 2018
15
      His strikes look GREAT.
Jan 25th 2018
18
I think Black is getting the title at Mania takeover
Jan 25th 2018
9
What name gets dropped when he gets called up?
Jan 25th 2018
10
      they're gonna call him Allie B
Jan 25th 2018
11
Am I the only one who can't stand the Undisputed Era?
Jan 25th 2018
14
      size is definitely an issue, but personality-wise I like them
Jan 25th 2018
16
           And O'Reilly moves like a fighter.
Jan 25th 2018
19
                that's the one thing I love about him
Jan 25th 2018
22
XFL all but confirmed: https://twitter.com/tagropemag/status/95655345074...
Jan 25th 2018
L M A O
Jan 25th 2018
13
.
Jan 25th 2018
12
XFL will exist for the sole purpose of having a football league
Jan 25th 2018
17
Nailed it.
Jan 25th 2018
20
these are the most specific answers he gave:
Jan 25th 2018
21
German Suplex lift into Choke Slam? Somebody needs this finisher
Jan 26th 2018
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DAMN!!!! LOL!!!!
Jan 26th 2018
24
Didn't know Mr Hughes was still around
Jan 26th 2018
25
Jesus. He was talking that shit until dude came his direction
Jan 26th 2018
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CHOKE PLEX SLAM! CHOKE PLEX SLAM!
Jan 26th 2018
27
      for real though I hope dude got some quality medical care after that
Jan 26th 2018
28
           shit i hope he's alive.
Jan 26th 2018
29
                He might be alive
Jan 26th 2018
30
Almas and Vega could be a main event heel tandem
Jan 27th 2018
31
Am I the only one who thinks VD's entrance still needs some serious work...
Jan 27th 2018
32
Yeah but I lost my shit when they ‘lanskid (Ba) on that mouthpiece
Jan 27th 2018
37
RE: Am I the only one who thinks VD's entrance still needs some serious ...
Jan 29th 2018
76
Ok she's still boring but that final spot was great
Jan 27th 2018
33
Baszler is a goddamned natural at this professional wrestling thing
Jan 27th 2018
38
      Yep. As an aside, I'm pretty sure she's either Baron Corbin''s dream gir...
Jan 28th 2018
39
           I was having these same thoughts
Jan 28th 2018
41
Adam Cole (baybay) vs Alister Black
Jan 27th 2018
34
those last 2 matches were incredible.
Jan 27th 2018
35
Dude that last match was 5 stars in my book
Jan 27th 2018
36
      I kind of wish Ciammpa played into the ending
Jan 28th 2018
42
           Me too, but he also could've wanted Johnny to win the title
Jan 28th 2018
43
Kenny Omega vs Jay White
Jan 28th 2018
40
Damnit forgot to make rest of my picks
Jan 28th 2018
44
#30 has to be Dolph coming out to DB's music right?
Jan 28th 2018
45
Well, they did the right thing...
Jan 28th 2018
46
Rousey and Strowman are both good guesses
Jan 28th 2018
47
      RE: Rousey and Strowman are both good guesses
Jan 28th 2018
49
That was a really fun Royal Rumble
Jan 28th 2018
48
I liked that it was more current talent and story driven
Jan 28th 2018
51
      Leveraging the biases of the smarks was clever
Jan 28th 2018
52
Lol definitely forgot Kane was in the title match
Jan 28th 2018
50
Strowman vs Lesnar at Mania could’ve been an all time classic
Jan 28th 2018
53
i hope Carmella wins the Rumble
Jan 28th 2018
54
I hope Kharma is in this and goes face to face with Nia
Jan 28th 2018
55
This crowd is dead for everything besides the legends
Jan 28th 2018
56
well damn the women delivered
Jan 28th 2018
57
that was even better than the great men’s Rumble
Jan 28th 2018
58
      I have a few nits-
Jan 29th 2018
72
Not sure how I feel about the ending
Jan 28th 2018
59
Rousey signed a full time contract
Jan 28th 2018
60
I think that Rousey spot buries the whole division tbh
Jan 28th 2018
62
Man some of those women are plain awful
Jan 29th 2018
66
      She’d be a lot more credible if she didn’t go out like a tomato can ...
Jan 29th 2018
69
      right, if this was 2 or 3 years ago
Jan 29th 2018
71
           I was hoping against hope that they'd have Baszler run out and destroy h...
Jan 29th 2018
78
      here's how i would book her, for example.
Jan 29th 2018
70
RE: Not sure how I feel about the ending
Jan 29th 2018
77
The women's Rumble is a great idea going forward.
Jan 28th 2018
61
Ronda should, and prob is gonna, main event Mania
Jan 28th 2018
63
I'm very conflicted about her entering the company in this way
Jan 28th 2018
64
The Rumble exposed how not over every woman in the division besides Asuk...
Jan 28th 2018
65
      I'd say it needs better writing, less Stephanie and less self-congratula...
Jan 29th 2018
68
      ^^^^^^^^
Jan 29th 2018
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           RE: ^^^^^^^^
Jan 29th 2018
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                In general they have to figure out which NXT people need work
Jan 29th 2018
84
      I thought Ember got a decent reaction
Jan 29th 2018
79
           The Asuka/Ember moment was fire
Jan 29th 2018
90
                I laughed pretty hard at Asuka shit-talking the arm injury.
Jan 29th 2018
96
                     HAHA
Jan 30th 2018
110
I’m curious if she’ll be over as a face or not
Jan 29th 2018
82
      Well Shayna is super heel and they will eventually stabilize
Jan 29th 2018
83
they wouldnt sign ronda and not make her the centerpiece
Jan 29th 2018
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I don't mind her there, just didn't want it at that moment
Jan 29th 2018
80
      Did you just say Ronda Rousey needs convincing wins?
Jan 29th 2018
81
           the idea that her getting beat on the way out of UFC hurt her is silly
Jan 29th 2018
85
           Brock got tore up by a much smaller Cain Velasquez
Jan 29th 2018
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           I mean Brock was a legitimate UFC champ for a short period of time
Jan 29th 2018
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                Brock was with WWE first
Jan 29th 2018
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           but Brock isn't a newcomer to WWE
Jan 29th 2018
89
                The promo should be easy
Jan 29th 2018
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           Well she got her boots smoked on the way out
Jan 29th 2018
87
                she's an Olympic Medalist and UFC Champion
Jan 29th 2018
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                I think her world class Judo will actual translate well in WWE
Jan 29th 2018
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                not to mention they wrestle like every day of the year!
Jan 29th 2018
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                RE: she's an Olympic Medalist and UFC Champion
Jan 30th 2018
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                She hasn't earned what those girls have?
Jan 29th 2018
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                     no, she hasn't.
Jan 29th 2018
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                          RE: no, she hasn't.
Jan 29th 2018
104
I went last night
Jan 29th 2018
74
Strowman shoot knees Brock, then Brock shoot punches Strowman
Jan 29th 2018
86
braun got that super quick reality check lol
Jan 29th 2018
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How quick did he apologize backstage?
Jan 29th 2018
100
lol, it almost looks like Braun leans in to apologize or check on him...
Jan 29th 2018
106
finally...the coach. HAS COME BACK...to W. W. E. (link)
Jan 29th 2018
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I'm going back to cali... cali... cali
Jan 29th 2018
95
God that jacket was awful.
Jan 29th 2018
105
Bad leather jackets are worse than other bad jackets
Jan 29th 2018
107
Thank God we have a McMahon to explain why things were good
Jan 29th 2018
108
how else are they going to fill 3 hours? With wrestling?
Jan 29th 2018
109
I can't remember the last Sasha match I saw without a horrendous botch
Jan 30th 2018
111
she's gonna kill herself out there
Jan 30th 2018
112
no idea why they insist on doing the Chamber before Mania
Jan 30th 2018
113
I like that it can help get us on the right track for Mania
Jan 30th 2018
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      right, but you can win the title through some shenanigans
Jan 30th 2018
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           a #30 winner could do less than the last Chamber entrant
Jan 30th 2018
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                yeah, but in kayfabe everyone has the same shot at #30 though
Jan 30th 2018
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                     ummmmmmmm he wore black jeans and a black sweatshirt and won
Jan 30th 2018
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                          *black sweatshirt w/ the sleeves cut off
Jan 30th 2018
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                               Full length sleeves I believe
Jan 30th 2018
120
                                    you're right. he must have sweaty arms.
Jan 30th 2018
121
Now that I've seen it: Almas-Gargano >>> anything from Wrestle Kingdom.....
Jan 30th 2018
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gotta say I agree
Jan 30th 2018
124
I might change my mind on a re-watch...
Jan 31st 2018
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      i thought it was 4 to 4.5 stars
Jan 31st 2018
149
I'll give you Almas-Gargano
Jan 31st 2018
125
Almas-Gargano entered the pantheon of matches I'd show to non-fans...
Jan 31st 2018
146
      I had the same exact thought
Jan 31st 2018
148
*breathes sigh of relief* listen, Omega v Jericho wasn't that special...
Jan 31st 2018
127
      I felt that way the first time I watched it
Jan 31st 2018
130
      The match plus the story told is what sold it for me
Jan 31st 2018
135
      Ambrose doesn't have a match in his career
Feb 01st 2018
150
           Those Shield-Wyatts trios matches are pretty close, man.
Feb 01st 2018
152
The MMC is fun as SHIT.
Jan 31st 2018
126
I didn't catch last night but it's been a lot of fun
Jan 31st 2018
128
      lmao, just saw this........THE LUNCHBOX!!!!
Jan 31st 2018
129
      lol, i don't think anyone watched the 2nd week unfortunately
Jan 31st 2018
132
           is it on the network?
Jan 31st 2018
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                yeah i think they put it up on the network the next day n/m
Jan 31st 2018
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      Wait till you see the finish of that match. It's a lot of fun.
Jan 31st 2018
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           keeps getting better every week
Feb 01st 2018
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                how easy is it to just let these people rip?
Feb 01st 2018
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                     See? That 1 minute just got Mandy Rose over with me a little
Feb 02nd 2018
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                     Match good too. Mandy as "Worker Marlena" is GREAT
Feb 13th 2018
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                          "BobRoode" KILLED me
Feb 13th 2018
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                     The first few mins of their match was hilarious...
Feb 17th 2018
205
so when did the Uso's get good on the mic
Jan 31st 2018
131
they've steadily gotten better since changing the gimmick
Jan 31st 2018
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the crowd looked dead shook at them too
Feb 01st 2018
151
They didn't have a lot of opportunity when they were the "Happy Headhunt...
Jan 31st 2018
137
      they could NEVER quite sync up on that entrance
Jan 31st 2018
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RE: Revival, I'm sticking to my thought, theyre gettin a legend team@ WM
Jan 31st 2018
134
So long as it doesn't end up like Raw 25, fine.
Jan 31st 2018
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      agreed
Jan 31st 2018
140
           Hell, have it be the Dudleyz
Jan 31st 2018
141
                I like it!!
Jan 31st 2018
144
TJP vs. Tyler Bate from 205 Live last night was really great...
Jan 31st 2018
147
Word is Vince has taken his hooks out of 205.
Feb 08th 2018
159
is it me or did Kurt sound really bad tonight...
Feb 05th 2018
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I noticed it too
Feb 06th 2018
157
Is this fun?
Feb 08th 2018
158
braun playing a fuckin bass like a guitar this dude a fool
Feb 12th 2018
160
listen man, funny is funny, and that was funny
Feb 12th 2018
161
every goofy thing they've had braun do has been gold
Feb 12th 2018
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      yup, he's scary no matter what they do with his character
Feb 13th 2018
166
      the one where she tries to flip the car had me dying
Feb 13th 2018
174
           And they brought back the best couple in the WORLD!
Feb 13th 2018
175
      that's the thing, he's a badass but everything feels authentic
Feb 13th 2018
170
That was a great moment
Feb 13th 2018
163
fucking brilliant
Feb 13th 2018
167
Braun Stapleton
Feb 13th 2018
176
Doesn't Cena get bored of his own pep talks at this point?
Feb 13th 2018
164
I clicked that on accident on YouTube, heard about 20 seconds of "preach...
Feb 13th 2018
172
Can you imagine if we didn't know Reigns was fighting Lesnar?
Feb 13th 2018
165
I had to talk my friend out of hope for The Miz
Feb 13th 2018
168
you can't *completely* rule out Strowman
Feb 13th 2018
169
I pray they have Elias playing guitar in the chamber pod
Feb 13th 2018
178
idk if Braun will fit
Feb 13th 2018
179
      I mean with someone elses pod
Feb 13th 2018
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           haha, or rip out both doors simultaneously
Feb 13th 2018
181
MAYBE we get a triple threat, but Mania is for Reigns
Feb 13th 2018
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      I agree. I'm fine with a Reigns title run.
Feb 13th 2018
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RE: Can you imagine if we didn't know Reigns was fighting Lesnar?
Feb 13th 2018
171
happy Rusev Day, y’all!
Feb 13th 2018
184
Talking with one of my friends...could this happen??
Feb 13th 2018
185
Really cool idea
Feb 14th 2018
186
I like it, and if there's anything they should've learned
Feb 14th 2018
188
      idk, maybe just bring the Duthty Classic up to the main?
Feb 14th 2018
190
           2nd one didn't have nearly the same appeal as the 1st
Feb 14th 2018
191
                The second one really, truly got DIY over
Feb 14th 2018
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anybody else think this women's revolution execution is corny?
Feb 14th 2018
187
lmao, the McMahons using it to put themselves over is awful
Feb 14th 2018
189
It’s just another forced narrative in a company full of them
Feb 14th 2018
192
again, it's main creative not paying attention to what got people over i...
Feb 15th 2018
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      This says it all
Feb 15th 2018
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           RE: This says it all
Feb 16th 2018
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Smackdown is so very bad right now
Feb 15th 2018
196
The Ziggler thing has made zero sense
Feb 16th 2018
198
      Problem with Roode is he's not a great baby. Dude is a natural heel.
Feb 16th 2018
199
      I'm 99% I came up with that.
Feb 16th 2018
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           It was either you or Stroud. I think it was you.
Feb 16th 2018
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           Yup yup
Feb 16th 2018
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           *puts on Robe that says "King of Quotes" on the back*
Feb 16th 2018
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           RE: I'm 99% I came up with that.
Feb 17th 2018
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      The only thing that can redeem the Ziggler thing is...
Feb 18th 2018
207
The past 3 weeks of 205 have been excellent...
Feb 17th 2018
206
they let jeff fucking jarrett in the hall of fame?
Feb 19th 2018
208
RE: they let jeff fucking jarrett in the hall of fame?
Feb 19th 2018
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^^^^^ Nailed it
Feb 19th 2018
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They running out of people
Feb 19th 2018
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There's only 1 requirement for getting in
Feb 20th 2018
217
Absolutely correct
Feb 20th 2018
218
Simple, Vince wants them tapes for the network
Feb 21st 2018
219
lol, they took away Apollo Crews' last name too
Feb 19th 2018
212
This Gauntlet match is the best idea for a Raw ep
Feb 19th 2018
213
Man, let Vince keep focusing on football.
Feb 20th 2018
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      I hope the XFL does great for that one reason
Feb 20th 2018
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so the whole night is gonna be the gauntlet match
Feb 19th 2018
214
Prediction Series: The Chamber (Fuck Bonuses edition)
Feb 21st 2018
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Be well ASAP
Feb 21st 2018
221
Mind if I add the bonus Qs?
Feb 22nd 2018
222
sure!
Feb 22nd 2018
223
      I think the group will enjoy the last two.
Feb 22nd 2018
224
           lol
Feb 22nd 2018
225
                I think we're seeing the cracks in Vince's control
Feb 22nd 2018
226
                     true, I didn't think he'd let BOTH Nak and Asuka win n/m
Feb 22nd 2018
227
Someone added their choices on my name
Feb 22nd 2018
228
*hardest eyeroll ever* @ the mens EC ending.
Feb 25th 2018
229
Reigns would’ve made sense had Strowman never happened
Feb 25th 2018
230
i cant believe *HE* is going to main event mania 4 years* running
Feb 25th 2018
231
This dude was the 4th Wyatt
Feb 26th 2018
235
So weird how they keep Strowman super-strong but won't just pull the tri...
Feb 25th 2018
232
Shrug. New Year, same ol' McMania bullshit.
Feb 26th 2018
233
^^^all of this
Feb 26th 2018
234
RE: Shrug. New Year, same ol' McMania bullshit.
Feb 26th 2018
236
hot take: the women’s EC was way better than the men’s
Feb 26th 2018
237
Word to Ronda immediately becoming the worst person they have on the mic
Feb 26th 2018
238
i always thought Kurt couldn't wrestle anymore
Feb 26th 2018
239
You didn't see him looking like a thumb in Shield gear?
Feb 26th 2018
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      lmao
Feb 26th 2018
243
      i must've missed it.
Feb 26th 2018
247
           RE: i must've missed it.
Feb 26th 2018
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                I prefer this image
Feb 26th 2018
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                     Wheres your neck? Wheres your neck?
Feb 26th 2018
257
Paul E. will save the day
Feb 26th 2018
240
      he better get on that shit tonight, before she says another word
Feb 26th 2018
242
      the match was so obviously Ronda/Brock vs Hunter/Stephanie
Feb 26th 2018
245
      I don't think they thought she'd be as awful on mic as she is
Feb 26th 2018
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      I think that's a bad idea. I think fans will bury her for that
Feb 26th 2018
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           She needed an NXT run is what she needed.
Feb 26th 2018
255
if you're going to split the brands then use them the right way
Feb 26th 2018
244
Shinsuke's limited shelf life is why you run with him now.
Feb 26th 2018
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      you may be right.
Feb 26th 2018
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           AJ/Seth match > Braun/Roman
Feb 26th 2018
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           Not really. Not until/unless they build history first.
Feb 26th 2018
254
           Silly? No. Violent? Absolutely.
Feb 26th 2018
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                I'm curious what Strowman can actually do
Feb 26th 2018
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                     He's not exactly Sheamus
Feb 26th 2018
260
                          Reigns, strictly as a performer, is a stud. His match with AJ? Flames.
Feb 26th 2018
261
                               His last WM match with Lesnar was fire. Even before the cash-in.
Mar 01st 2018
269
Golden Lovers vs. Young Bucks
Feb 26th 2018
259
goddamn seth damn near jumped across the whole ring
Feb 26th 2018
262
Reigns’ balls finally dropped. Surprisingly great promo
Feb 26th 2018
263
Loved it, with one exception
Feb 27th 2018
264
      that was lame, but it sure did seem genuine at least
Feb 27th 2018
265
oh also, stating the obvious here, but Angle is WASHED
Feb 27th 2018
266
Anyone been to an NXT Live event?
Mar 01st 2018
267
It's a great fan experience
Mar 01st 2018
268
don't look now, but they're booking Reigns vs Brock well so far
Mar 05th 2018
270
They really don't want this main event boo'd the entire time
Mar 05th 2018
271
It helps Reigns that the fans have smartened up to Brock
Mar 05th 2018
273
yup, genius job so far
Mar 05th 2018
272
Where is Lesnar contractually?
Mar 06th 2018
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      I’m under the impression he’s up for renewal every two Manias
Mar 06th 2018
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           Yes, this Mania is what I had in mind as well...
Mar 06th 2018
280
The Greatest Royal Rumble. 50 people!
Mar 05th 2018
274
I hope when it gets all the way to the end, two dudes just kiss
Mar 05th 2018
275
damn elias is clowning rn
Mar 05th 2018
276
RE: damn elias is clowning rn
Mar 06th 2018
279
      There is a clear fix for Wyatt, like a really easy one
Mar 06th 2018
281
           5 star booking!
Mar 06th 2018
282
           that's cause his promos never change
Mar 06th 2018
284
                I can't imagine how this will play into Bray's future...
Mar 07th 2018
285
           Bray needs to not lose for like a solid 9 months
Mar 06th 2018
283

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1. "I'm thinking about going to Strong Style Evolved"
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It's at the end of March in Long Beach, CA.

Would make a nice trip to the west coast and if I'm going that far I'm going to shoot for front row spots. Would be the first time travelling that far for Wrestling and I haven't even done a Wrestlemania.

I need someone to talk me out of it, and by talk me out of it I mean tell me exactly why I should go and how awesome it would be.

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3. "this is the wrong board for talking you out of this"
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>
>I need someone to talk me out of it, and by talk me out of it
>I mean tell me exactly why I should go and how awesome it
>would be.

I'm jealous. I will see a New Japan show eventually if it kills me to do so, but it doesn't look like that'll be happening in 2018 unfortunately.

  

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2. "Because if there's one thing the Women's Rumble needs, it's a McMahon"
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http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/stephanie-mcmahon-wwe-royal-rumble/2/

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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4. "i hope she wins lmao."
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Haitch is the gawd of the shovel so maybe his wife picked up a trick or two on burying the whole roster.

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6. "Then she can beat Asuka clean at some point"
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5. "the McMahons should only be around to receive stunners"
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Lita was alright during that Mae Young tourney, why not her at the announce desk? At least it would be a wrestler who might have something to add with each entrant. Goddamn this family really knows how to put themselves over.

  

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7. "Any thoughts on Takeover fellas?"
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I think Ciampa comes in to cost Gargano his title shot which reignites their feud for the Mania Takeover.

I HOPE Ember retains but I'm kinda pessimistic on that. They seem all in on the former UFC ladies and I think that's a shame given how much they've built up Ember.

I expect an AoP call-up soon and I think Undisputed Era will rule the brand this year, so no title switch there.

Cole beats Black, maybe after shenanigans, and goes on to win the NXT title in April.

Looks like they just added Velveteen vs. Kassius. Ohno is going nowhere and Dream is a star in the making so I expect him to win here. It's really a shame they couldn't capitalize on the great things Chris Hero did in the indies, but I do love Velveteen. It's crazy how young that guy is.

  

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8. "Hero's in NXT to be a mini-boss. "
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He's someone who is credibly tough, can put on a good match, but through a variety of factors isn't the guy. He could have been Hogan, you're right, but he aged and puffed up into Duggan.

And so I think he's where, for good or for ill, he wants to be right now. Helping to educate kids, hit some pretty cool spots, and make guys like Lars Sullivan and Patrick Clark look like the business. And when he hangs it up I think he'll probably join his Kings of Wrestling stablemate Sara Del Rey as a trainer.

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15. "is he “credibly tough” ? He’s a skinny dude who’s fat."
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He’s right where he deserves to be and blew a ton of potential to eat.

  

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18. "His strikes look GREAT."
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The high-tension elbow or whatever he's calling it when he jumps halfway across the ring is a fantastic move.

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9. "I think Black is getting the title at Mania takeover"
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I suppose I can see that going either way, either of these guys would be fine title or no title and being made the man on the main roster eventually.

Maybe Cole is the one getting the Mania push so that Undisputed era can hold tag and world belts.

To me though, all year it felt like Black was being reserved for NXT Nola

  

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10. "What name gets dropped when he gets called up?"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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11. "they're gonna call him Allie B"
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and then drop the B a month later

  

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14. "Am I the only one who can't stand the Undisputed Era?"
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I get that they put on good matches, but they're so tiny that them being legit physical threats just pulls me out of believability. That, and their generic ass names don't say champion at all
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16. "size is definitely an issue, but personality-wise I like them"
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I've never liked Kyle O'Reilly though he works better as an enforcer in a heel faction cause his moveset looks believably painful. I think Fish is great and Cole is one of the best personalities in wrestling. The name of the group sucks though.

  

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19. "And O'Reilly moves like a fighter. "
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That little hunchback in his stance makes it look like he's there to fuck you up.

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22. "that's the one thing I love about him"
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that and his little sneer. when he was taunting Sanity before War Games in that stance it was highly entertaining.

  

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"XFL all but confirmed: https://twitter.com/tagropemag/status/95655345074..."


  

          

https://twitter.com/tagropemag/status/956553450740944897

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13. "L M A O"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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12. "."
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.

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17. "XFL will exist for the sole purpose of having a football league"
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where players, by rule, must stand for the national anthem.

I look forward to yet another failed non-wrestling venture by Vinnie Mac.

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20. "Nailed it."
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https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1473759

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21. "these are the most specific answers he gave:"
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"we're listening to experts"

"it's going to be better and faster than the game we're accustomed to"

"they will have to stand for the anthem, as it is a time-honored tradition"

"i did not run this by Linda."


given that the talent pool is shrinking, this could be even worse than the first XFL.

  

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23. "German Suplex lift into Choke Slam? Somebody needs this finisher"
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https://twitter.com/_ChefDon_/status/956724154530705408

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24. "DAMN!!!! LOL!!!!"
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25. "Didn't know Mr Hughes was still around"
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26. "Jesus. He was talking that shit until dude came his direction"
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27. "CHOKE PLEX SLAM! CHOKE PLEX SLAM!"
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GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY!
STOP THE DAMN MATCH THAT MAN HAS A FAMILY!

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28. "for real though I hope dude got some quality medical care after that"
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because he was out fucking cold.

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29. "shit i hope he's alive."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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30. "He might be alive"
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But his soul now belongs to that dude

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31. "Almas and Vega could be a main event heel tandem"
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He'll need a heater or, better yet, a stable, but I think this tandem could evolve into a top tier heel presence, qt least on SD.

I struggle to fim's the right pieces to put around him, but I think the right heater with these two could be a considerably better version of that Dolph/AJ/Big E trio some years back.

They'd probably have to bring in someone like Texano, though I'm not sure he's big enough to be an intimidating enforcer.

Perhaps a freshly reimagined Rusev or Mojo Rawley. EC III?

I don't have the answer but I two think there's something bigger here with Almas and Vega

  

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32. "Am I the only one who thinks VD's entrance still needs some serious work..."
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Everything but the shirtless man and that fine ass valet still screams B-grade

The gimmick is cool otherwise.

As an aside, I wish KaKishi Ohno gave half a fuck.

  

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37. "Yeah but I lost my shit when they ‘lanskid (Ba) on that mouthpiece"
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Hero’s baby onesie gear does him no favors. He needs to either embrace the Big John Studd he’s become or take a page out of the Kevin Owens/indies Punk handbook and add basketball shorts to his gear.

But I thought his performance was just fine.

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76. "RE: Am I the only one who thinks VD's entrance still needs some serious ..."
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>Everything but the shirtless man and that fine ass valet
>still screams B-grade
>
>The gimmick is cool otherwise.
>
>As an aside, I wish KaKishi Ohno gave half a fuck.

It does. I love him as a rock solid work in progress, but I hope they don’t leave well enough alone with him because he’s already so over.

His packaged promos are money on the table. But he still needs to be the character at absolutely every moment. That way, he’d do more absurd stuff in random situations to put it over the top. Him and his friends should just be sitting around thinking of jackass stuff for a psycho wrestling Prince to do. If Prince is your template, there’s mountains of material to sift through. Sure, this not being attitude era stops lots of it, but there’s still plenty to do. It’s kinda like the Rock. Once Dwayne got to the point where he was totally the Rock all the damn time and everything that happened led to some kind of Rock reply or action, he was in there. I’m saying saying Dream is the Rock in waiting, but an absurd character can work if the guy playing the character gets like 6 good things to do that fit that character well. Then, you just roll with it and the promos damn near make themselves.

Right now, he has ‘say my name’. That works on me but he needs to add on.

I also want more lyrics or something from the theme song. If he’s gets those 6 good things, he could slide a few of those in there. Say my name is good enough to throw in right now!

  

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33. "Ok she's still boring but that final spot was great"
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The look is cool but those tacky ass contacts kill it.

Promos are ZZZZZZZZ.

She's a Titantron image and a great, if a bit overly complicated, finisher.

Conversely, I'm pretty sure Baszler is the embodiment of pure evil.

Fantastic finish.

  

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38. "Baszler is a goddamned natural at this professional wrestling thing"
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Classic NWA heel style. Work the shit out of a body part, revel in your viciousness, rinse, repeat. She’s so great so quickly.

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39. "Yep. As an aside, I'm pretty sure she's either Baron Corbin''s dream gir..."
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Or sister.

They actually have very similar body types and physical features. Right down to the hair. Similar personalities.

I bet if they hooked up, they'd own the domestic violence section of pornnhub.

  

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41. "I was having these same thoughts"
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At some point in the match she was standing over Moon and made this face and I was just like holy shit she looks exactly like female Corbin

  

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34. "Adam Cole (baybay) vs Alister Black"
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This is how you have your stars do an extreme rules match, Vince.

Hell of a match by both men. I swear I hope they don't get ruined when they eventually get called up.

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35. "those last 2 matches were incredible."
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all solid stuff before that, but I was completely wrapped up in those 2. I don't see anything tomorrow topping those.

  

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36. "Dude that last match was 5 stars in my book"
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Nothing tomorrow is touching that.

That's how you put on an even. Why they won't let guys go like that on the main roster is beyond me.

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42. "I kind of wish Ciammpa played into the ending"
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The match was perfection, this isn't a real complaint, but him costing Gargano the match would have meant so much more than just a sneak attack as the show was ending.

I suppose you could argue that match deserved a clean end which is why the crowd was so mad when it looked like he was about to lose after the interference spot, but this would have been different.

Either way classic match and pumped to see this blowoff match finally happen at Nola

  

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43. "Me too, but he also could've wanted Johnny to win the title"
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So that he could take it off him. I'll wait to hear Ciampa's explanation before I judge that part, but either way that match was incredible.

  

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40. "Kenny Omega vs Jay White"
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Match was great, ending with good.
Stuff after the ending was one hell of a moment.

Lot of great wrestling this weekend. I'll talk about it more once most of you have seen this. Passing out now this njpw time difference is hard on a brotha.

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44. "Damnit forgot to make rest of my picks"
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Missing a few

Monster Hunter World destroyed all my productivity this weekend.

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45. "#30 has to be Dolph coming out to DB's music right? "
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46. "Well, they did the right thing..."
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It might have been semi-predictable but Nakamura winning was the best possible outcome save for some truly crazy fantasy booking like Daniel Bryan or something.

Seems like everyone is predicting that, since the men's Rumble went first, that means Ronda Rousey is gonna be involved in the women's Rumble after all, but I'm wondering if they're calling an audible and they're gonna put the belt on Strowman in the Universal Title to match to end the show.

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47. "Rousey and Strowman are both good guesses"
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Would think something big happens right? So nothing probably will haha

  

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49. "RE: Rousey and Strowman are both good guesses"
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I mean, seems strange for them to put the women's Rumble on last if it ends just up being Asuka winning—which is the only other possible outcome other than the Rousey surprise—unless it's, God forbid, the nightmare scenario of Stephanie McMahon coming in at 30 and winning.

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48. "That was a really fun Royal Rumble"
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My son lost his shit when Rey Mysterio’s theme hit. They used Cena and Orrin perfectly. Nice bounce back after last years mess.

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51. "I liked that it was more current talent and story driven"
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Normally it would be a surprise fest, but I think Almas, Cole, Rey, and hell even Hurricane were all good entries. I would have let the Heath Slater thing happen a little bit longer and as usual Kofi comes with something awesome. I really dug this rumble.

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52. "Leveraging the biases of the smarks was clever"
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Leaving Cena and Orton in late, then having Cena and Reigns bully Nakamura...it was slick

Dolph Ziggler is as over as a plate of cold boogers. He so obviously thought he was gonna get a great pop from the crowd only to be met with a shrug. Dude could have come back doing ANYTHING different, and he came back with the same music and wearing pink. He’s just a whiny dumb dude at this point, may be time for him to just go away.

  

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50. "Lol definitely forgot Kane was in the title match"
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when making my picks.

The Rumble match was pretty good, Hurricane was making the MOST of his moment.

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53. "Strowman vs Lesnar at Mania could’ve been an all time classic "
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That’s the big money main event sitting in their lap, and they just can’t get to it because of their hard-on for Reigns. Reigns is good. But Strowman is special and he’s due, and they just keep dodging his moment.

  

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54. "i hope Carmella wins the Rumble"
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That way she can get a title shot then lose and immediately cash in.

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55. "I hope Kharma is in this and goes face to face with Nia "
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56. "This crowd is dead for everything besides the legends "
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57. "well damn the women delivered"
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Or should I say the legends delivered? They came through and tore it up and looked amazing. So when a male superstar retires he gains 30 lbs and gets hooked on drugs and alcohol. When a female superstar retires she stays in amazing shape and can still wrassle.

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58. "that was even better than the great men’s Rumble"
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If you want to nitpick, Bella vs Asuka should’ve been Sasha vs Asuka, but who cares.

I think really for the first time since they switched from “divas” to “female superstars”, there’s legitimate intrigue. Who does Asuka pick? What are Rousey’s motivations? What about Carmella? That’s good stuff.

The match is Charlotte vs Ronda. They probably know that.

  

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72. "I have a few nits- "
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1) Michelle McCool with no Layla? Boooooo.

1a) I know she’s Undertaker fam and all that, but did we need McCool dropping that many eliminations

1b) kinda strange to set up two factions that are supposed to have the drop on the current roster and have them all eliminated by women who haven’t wrestled for years.

2) way too many spots with the competitors knocked through the ropes.

3) Bellas in the final 4?

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59. "Not sure how I feel about the ending"
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Kinda shit on Asuka's winning with Rousey coming out and almost declaring a title shot at WM. She's done nothing to deserve it. Vince loves his celebrities though. Gonna wait to see how this plays out but I'd love a win from Asuka on that stage.

Hyped if it's Nak vs AJ. They need to let them go. That stage and Nak giving a shit about this match should be one hell of a show from the both of them. Honestly should go on last since I got the fans Booing like crazy If Roman wins. I'll be happy though bedside we will babe a champ that's acutally around.

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60. "Rousey signed a full time contract"
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So looks like she is in it for the long haul. I knew her acting was bad but she looked bad and awkward up there for even wrestling standards.

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62. "I think that Rousey spot buries the whole division tbh"
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Asuka doesn't get her moment, Rousey immediately jumps into a match she hasn't earned*, plus she thinks she's too important for the ROYAL RUMBLE.

  

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66. "Man some of those women are plain awful "
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I’m sorry, but some of those women, and specifically their offenses, are not good. Lana sucks, Bayley sucks, Natalya sucks. The Bellas still really SUCK, despite being literally wed to two HOFers. All of the new Riott Grrlz or whatever, garbage. Not to mention the dozen women from yesteryear who mostly all looked awful performance-wise.

I was blown away by Ember Moon’s offense - she looked like more credible of a threat than most, as if she really did want to hurt people and win. Asuka works well on a big stage. Sasha was the most obvious star in the match and, after Charlotte, is the most can’t-miss female they have.

And I really liked the match! But we got just enough doses of everyone. WWE got serious about women’s wrestling, like, three years ago. It will get better. In the meantime, Rousey gives them some mystery and, more importantly, some badly needed grit.

She has real chops, and that’s what women’s wrestling needs. The women’s stuff needs to look physical and feel violent, not like patty cake. Rousey is bonafide and can help. We’ll see if she can go.

  

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69. "She’d be a lot more credible if she didn’t go out like a tomato can ..."
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71. "right, if this was 2 or 3 years ago"
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she can come in and main event and i got no real problem with it. she's not as dominant as she was though.

  

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But I guess they're not going to do that when she's wearing Piper's old jacket.

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70. "here's how i would book her, for example."
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Have Rousey come in on Monday and challenge Sasha for Mania or come in on Tuesday and challenge Becky for Mania. That gives her the Mania spot, still gives a great wrestler the spotlight against her, and doesn't hot-shot her while hiding the women who have been around for a while. She's a big name so I'm not gonna argue she should be on the preshow with Dana Brooke or whatever, but I simply think it makes everyone look like shit if she comes in and immediately faces whoever she wants.

You have a point about the women you named, but most of them won't be in a big spot at Mania anyway, and you can say the same about plenty of male wrestlers too. I just don't think there's a point to the women's revolution if a couple years in a newcomer can roll in and basically main event right away. It's the same shit they always do and we often criticize it when it's a guy. If it's 4 horsewomen vs. 4 horsewomen at mania that'd be a bit better and would make more sense, but idk... she still stole Asuka's moment and that's not really cool.

> She has real chops, and that’s what women’s wrestling
>needs. The women’s stuff needs to look physical and feel
>violent, not like patty cake. Rousey is bonafide and can help.
>We’ll see if she can go.

I wouldn't count on crossover though. MMA folks are hit or miss when transitioning to pro wrestling. Baszler looked great last night, but maybe Rousey won't. We really don't know. That's why a Sasha or Becky startup program seems like a better idea to me.

  

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77. "RE: Not sure how I feel about the ending"
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>Kinda shit on Asuka's winning with Rousey coming out and
>almost declaring a title shot at WM. She's done nothing to
>deserve it. Vince loves his celebrities though. Gonna wait to
>see how this plays out but I'd love a win from Asuka on that
>stage.
>
>Hyped if it's Nak vs AJ. They need to let them go. That stage
>and Nak giving a shit about this match should be one hell of a
>show from the both of them. Honestly should go on last since I
>got the fans Booing like crazy If Roman wins. I'll be happy
>though bedside we will babe a champ that's acutally around.

I think/hope we’re okay here. If Asuka rakes Alexa upside the head for the Raw title and Rousey goes at Charlotte, we’re okay. Ric’s kid is bulletproof for now. And they could have Rousey put the beatdown on Bayley fo they want to be dynamic. Otherwise, Ronda’s gonna stand around smirking for 2 months while we all pray that she can work when the bell rings. I hope she’s Performance Centering her ass off in prep.

  

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61. "The women's Rumble is a great idea going forward."
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A few things-

-Menunous's announcing was awful. Should have let JoJo run with it but I get why they did it.

-Lita looked like garbage, literally and figuratively. Kelly Kelly and Tori looked unsafe at times. Not a fan of their time tonight. Lots improved as the match progressed but she wasn't very good eqrly.

-Molly, Candace, and Trish all brought it. Jacqueline wasn't given anything to do and that's unfortunate, but she shined for a second.

-The Beth/Nia moment was great. Much as I clown Nia's ring to hear, she's really come into her role as the resident monster quite well.

Yikes@Mickey James. She looked like a character from Mama's Family or some shit. The visual contrast between her and Trish was not good.

-Sasha's officially turned, right? If so, great move at a good time.

The Rousey pointing thing was corny, but I'm intrigued. I'm betting it will be her and Charlotte.

Generally speaking, this was a well executed Rumble for the women. The pacing suffered at times but aside from that I was pretty into the whole thing.

  

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63. "Ronda should, and prob is gonna, main event Mania"
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Regardless of if she goes on last she is undeniably about to bring in the most viewers, especially casual fans. We know WWE is obsessed with "making history" with the women and main eventing Mania is the last big thing at this point.

Say what you want about her overshadowing or burying the division but Rousey is 1000x bigger than the entire division and if she's signed full time you make her the center of the division ASAP. The rest of the women can be happy counting their money they'll make on on the back of her.

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64. "I'm very conflicted about her entering the company in this way"
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I'd like to wait and see, but then I feel like I know the WWE playplaybook well enough to know she's going to be used in a way that sucks the air out of the division.

It's already a poorly booked division where every angle more or less includes every woman on the roster. Plus they spend so much time talking about the revolution/evolution that it actually highlights a lack of progress instead of showing actual progress.

Stephanie already dominates the division on Raw. I just don't see how they don't screw things up with Rousey in a way that yields diminishing returns.

  

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65. "The Rumble exposed how not over every woman in the division besides Asuk..."
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The crowd was mild as fuck outside of legends/surprises and Asuka doing Asuka things. This division needs Ronda.

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68. "I'd say it needs better writing, less Stephanie and less self-congratula..."
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I think she's the last thing the division needs, because she'll allow them to do what they do best on the booking/writing front:

Hotshot established names.

She's a net gain that will allow them a thick layer of protection from their worst tendencies.

Those women are over because they're too busy putting WWE and Stephanie over. They're actively puttingnover "History!" Instead of the women.

The wrestlers didn't get exposed.
Vince and his creative team did.

I'll give the caveat that since the trash writing isn't going to change either way, it's better to have a ready-made band-aid in the box, but Ronda is yet another star they don't have to actually do the work of making, same as they get by with boring ass Brock stories and rinse, wash, repeat matches on the strength of a name.

  

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73. "^^^^^^^^"
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they only really write the title programs for the women, which is why none of them besides Alexa and Charlotte have real characters. Even Sasha, Becky, and Bayley aren't FULLY fleshed out characters and we've been watching them every week for years now.

  

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75. "RE: ^^^^^^^^"
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>they only really write the title programs for the women,
>which is why none of them besides Alexa and Charlotte have
>real characters. Even Sasha, Becky, and Bayley aren't FULLY
>fleshed out characters and we've been watching them every week
>for years now.

It’s bad cuz nxt style and booking efforts had crowds in love with all of the main ladies. But that main roster situation sucks because they all but bury/cool off folks on purpose when Vince decides he’s not sure about you. Sasha and Bayley are getting killed by that on the reg. Bayley especially. As much as I have liked her, she needs some protection and effort wrapped around her character or she’s a big-legged Ziggler developing right in front of our eyes. She came out at 29 and folks didn’t sweat it at all cuz she was fo sho not winning.

Overall, I am confident that the actual wrestling with the women is on its way up again once the best ones are all established...even with wwe’s lack of ability and/or will to get everyone as over as we’d like. Nakamura dreams that WWE booked him with as much love as they’ve put into Asuka. She wins every single time and folks still love her and root for her to win again. And all she does is make accurate for the situation faces in between some solid at worst rasslin. I love how money she is at milking situations in-ring. And she reminds of Eddy and that whole small but awesome crew from the early 2000s wwe: you can see how she hits the gas when she’s in there with someone who can go fo sho. It’s a nuanced sign of respect in my opinion when folks trust each other enough in the ring to go full blast.

  

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84. "In general they have to figure out which NXT people need work"
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There are some, like Nakamura, Finn, Joe, Sasha, Charlotte, and Elias who can just make the leap because they're characters on their own that play in arenas. (the first three because they have already).

Then there are folks that got over in NXT by building a story. The Ascension, Bayley, Emma. And while there's a subset of people that watch NXT and the main roster, it's not everyone, and they need to take the time to tell their stories. The problem is knowing which is which, and it's not always clear which.

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79. "I thought Ember got a decent reaction"
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More so as she worked the match - but I think she might be someone like Elias who will work much better on the main than the tight confines of NXT.

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90. "The Asuka/Ember moment was fire"
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once Ember finally beats Asuka like a year or two from now it's gonna get a huge pop.

  

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96. "I laughed pretty hard at Asuka shit-talking the arm injury."
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That little "oh, look at this badass/I leave the division and you get hurt AGAIN?" face she pulled was fantastic.

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82. "I’m curious if she’ll be over as a face or not"
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Will there be a “outsider/celebrity” backlash from the fans or is she such a badass that they won’t care about that?

She seemed pretty awkward in there last night. I wondered if she pointed at the Mania sign at the wrong time, because she did it like 3 different times. It just felt weird and off. Like she shouldn’t have done it before shaking anyone’s hand, she should’ve just waited and pointed to it only at the end.

  

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83. "Well Shayna is super heel and they will eventually stabilize "
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So a heel run is where she may end up working best

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67. "they wouldnt sign ronda and not make her the centerpiece"
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of the division. so strap in.

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80. "I don't mind her there, just didn't want it at that moment"
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I don't mind her winning and you just know they'll throw the title on her eventually. This was a huge moment for Asuka though and I hope this doesn't overshadow her winning the first woman's rumble since she actually participated instead of just showing up when everything is done.

Just let Asuka face Bliss at WM and have Ronda go after the smackdown woman's title, she's gonna need some convincing wins before WM.

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81. "Did you just say Ronda Rousey needs convincing wins?"
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Former UFC Champion Ronda Rousey needs to convince the audience she's a credible challenger to Charlotte?

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85. "the idea that her getting beat on the way out of UFC hurt her is silly"
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go watch Brock's last few fights in the Octagon, he looked every bit as lost as Ronda

  

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88. "Brock got tore up by a much smaller Cain Velasquez "
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Sure he's a monster in the WWE, that's also pre determined. Those of us that watch both know better.

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91. "I mean Brock was a legitimate UFC champ for a short period of time"
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92. "Brock was with WWE first"
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So he was an established pro wrestler that left to peruse MMA. He was a legit wrestler before WWE also so I'm good with that.

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89. "but Brock isn't a newcomer to WWE"
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I'm sure she'll be fine, but not every MMA star looks great when they transition to WWE so I don't like giving her one of the biggest spots right away when there's plenty of deserving women. If McGregor came in and challenged for the WWE or Universal title right away people would rightly shit all over that, and they'd cite the fact that he looked embarrassing in the boxing ring.

  

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97. "The promo should be easy"
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"All I have to do is avoid the armbar and punch you in the face a few times, right?"

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87. "Well she got her boots smoked on the way out"
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And this is wrestling, not UFC, so I doubt anyone cares. If they let her I'd just play footage of Amanda Nunes beating her ass over and over on the titan tron.

She JUST got there. She hasn't earned what those girls have yet. She's a celebrity that got thrown in the mix because of her name. I'd say she still needs some convincing wins.

I don't mind her being there, I don't mind her eventually getting a title run. I'm not ok with them undermining some of the other talent after such a meaningful victory.

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98. "she's an Olympic Medalist and UFC Champion"
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the rest of these girls just do crossfit

  

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99. "I think her world class Judo will actual translate well in WWE"
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102. "not to mention they wrestle like every day of the year!"
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for the past 4 years they've been steadily wowing audiences, putting on some match of the year candidates, having some really great feuds and closing out multiple shows, but sure, all they do is crossfit and all of them should take a backseat to someone who hasn't done this ever. we've seen people fail to transition from MMA to wrestling before so why is it SUCH a crazy idea that she shouldn't immediately take the top spot? no one is arguing she should be on NXT or anything, just that the current roster deserves more respect than this. plus if she's really signed full-time then why rush it?

  

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122. "RE: she's an Olympic Medalist and UFC Champion"
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>the rest of these girls just do crossfit



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101. "She hasn't earned what those girls have?"
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Without Ronda Rousey making women's combat fighting a serious, money drawing sport, the emphasis on quality women's wrestling likely doesn't exist and the "women's revolution" would look a hell of a lot different.

Those girls are no doubt extremely grateful for the glass ceilings she shattered and assuming they aren't dumb very excited she's now a part of the team.

Yeah, she got her ass handed to her by Holm and Nunes, but what do you think it would look like if you sent Sasha Banks or Becky Lynch or whoever in the Octagon? Ronda is a STAR with a legitimate fighting background and an impressive resume to back it up. Assuming she doesn't struggle to find her "tv character" and all that jazz, she is the top star in the women's division and should be booked as such.

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103. "no, she hasn't."
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>Yeah, she got her ass handed to her by Holm and Nunes, but
>what do you think it would look like if you sent Sasha Banks
>or Becky Lynch or whoever in the Octagon?

which is why they aren't going to the Octagon. If that's a different playing field then why isn't wrestling considered a different playing field? It's not the exact same as combat sports so I see no reason to hot-shot MMA people.

Ronda is a STAR with
>a legitimate fighting background and an impressive resume to
>back it up. Assuming she doesn't struggle to find her "tv
>character" and all that jazz, she is the top star in the
>women's division and should be booked as such.

And what if she gets a title shot too early and looks bad as Charlotte drags her through a yawner in the middle of the Mania card? Her heat will dissipate and then they won't know what to do. Just give her a good spot against great workers until she's earned that top spot. It won't be that long anyway.

  

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104. "RE: no, she hasn't."
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The post I replied to was saying she hasn't earned her spot yet and needed to have some convincing wins to get there. I'm saying she does not need convincing wins to get to that spot because her background has plenty of convincing wins already.

Now if you want to say she shouldn't be a top spot because she isn't a great pro wrestler yet, I agree, and how steep of a learning curve she has ahead of her remains to be seen.

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74. "I went last night"
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Got a freebie through a friend of a friend. I was pleasantly surprised overall by the quality of the card.

Very surprised at the card order, especially the Womens' Rumble being last. The early stuff was, well, blah, like the cruiserweights and the tag match. I'm quickly getting tired of Roode...we'll see.

Styles match was good IMO, no surprise there. Usos also a good match, surprised it was two straight falls.

Mens Rumble was pretty decent...good to see no Scott Hall, XPac, or other ancient entrants. I guess Nakamura was the obvious pick (though I didn't pick him on the contest...lol) and I have no issue with him winning.

The Bar wins...meh. I'd much rather they win than the Jordan/Rollins garbage, but the match was ordinary besides Rollins IMO.

Then the worst match of the night happened. Brock wins again and Kane really needs to go away. A Lesnar / Strowman match would have been much better, but unless Braun won that matchup, he would have looked weak as hell, and I doubt they want him to headline WM at this point.

Then my surprise of the card...the Womens match was very good. My only complaint with it was the old folks reunion of sorts, but to have 30, they almost had to do that. A 20 person match without the older entrants would have been epic, but as it was it was a pleasant surprise.


The crowd...well...for a Philly crowd, it was ok I guess. Very hyped up early then petered out after the Mens RR match. Not the typical Philly crowd I'm used to.
Oh yeah, the Rousey thing...for me it shat all over the purpose of the Womens RR match. All the top talent goes to war for a title shot, and afterwards she strolls her ass to the ring, points at the WM sign, and she's in?? All I can say is she better be good...but I doubt it.

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86. "Strowman shoot knees Brock, then Brock shoot punches Strowman"
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OOF:
https://twitter.com/WrestlinGifs/status/957808015108902912

and a closer look at the punch:
https://twitter.com/HeymanHustle/status/958016860699660289

  

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93. "braun got that super quick reality check lol"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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100. "How quick did he apologize backstage?"
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That 2 piece absolutely crumbled him.

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106. "lol, it almost looks like Braun leans in to apologize or check on him..."
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... then gets blasted a half-second later.

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94. "finally...the coach. HAS COME BACK...to W. W. E. (link)"
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https://twitter.com/WWE/status/957992286515843073

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95. "I'm going back to cali... cali... cali"
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Nah, I've never been.

But NJPW this March I will be there ringside baby!

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105. "God that jacket was awful. "
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107. "Bad leather jackets are worse than other bad jackets"
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and the 80's was fucking bursting at the seams with them.

  

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108. "Thank God we have a McMahon to explain why things were good"
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yeah we watched the event Steph. No need for a verbal recap.

  

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109. "how else are they going to fill 3 hours? With wrestling?"
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get with the program man

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111. "I can't remember the last Sasha match I saw without a horrendous botch"
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This shit last night was terrifying.

https://twitter.com/WrestlinGifs/status/958174725213163520

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112. "she's gonna kill herself out there"
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>This shit last night was terrifying.
>
>https://twitter.com/WrestlinGifs/status/958174725213163520

  

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113. "no idea why they insist on doing the Chamber before Mania"
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as a #1 contender's match sure, but there are often title defenses (including Alexa this time around), which doesn't belong in between the Rumble and Mania. 30 people go to war to earn a Wrestlemania title shot and then 5 people who probably lost that match get gifted a shot the next month in a completely unfair match for the champ. If it was around in the spring or fall to help out a dead spot on the calendar that'd make a lot more sense.

  

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114. "I like that it can help get us on the right track for Mania"
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The Rumble isn't just about a title shot that other people just get handed at elimination chamber. It's about being in a Wrestlemania main event. In Kayfabe, a title match at Mania is worth more than a title match at other events.

I also like that it can help get things where we need for Mania. Last year Wyatt winning helped us avoid Cena vs Orton again (as bad as the match wound up being with Wyatt/Orton)

It helps keep the Rumble a little less predictable too when you know the title will be on the line in Elimination chamber.

  

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115. "right, but you can win the title through some shenanigans "
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at the event before WM, so essentially you have a 1 in 6 chance to get that same Mania spot AND the title. plus your pod can open up last and you don't have to do much work cause everyone who's left has been through the ringer.

>I also like that it can help get things where we need for
>Mania. Last year Wyatt winning helped us avoid Cena vs Orton
>again (as bad as the match wound up being with Wyatt/Orton)

saving themselves from problems they've created is not much of a feather in their cap lol.

>It helps keep the Rumble a little less predictable too when
>you know the title will be on the line in Elimination
>chamber.

I do like that element, but there's been a million ways they've switched Mania plans before EC existed though. Not all of them made sense of course, but I still think EC is very unfair to the champ and slightly unfair to the Rumble winner.

  

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116. "a #30 winner could do less than the last Chamber entrant"
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>I do like that element, but there's been a million ways
>they've switched Mania plans before EC existed though. Not all
>of them made sense of course, but I still think EC is very
>unfair to the champ and slightly unfair to the Rumble winner.

http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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117. "yeah, but in kayfabe everyone has the same shot at #30 though"
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and there have been people who entered early and didn't do shit till the end (hi Vince)

  

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118. "ummmmmmmm he wore black jeans and a black sweatshirt and won"
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Just as impressive as anything HBK has done.

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119. "*black sweatshirt w/ the sleeves cut off"
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perfect outfit for a wrestler. collects sweat and still allows arm mobility, plus jeans are cool.

  

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120. "Full length sleeves I believe "
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121. "you're right. he must have sweaty arms."
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in that case, he's just looking out for the safety of his employees/co-workers

  

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123. "Now that I've seen it: Almas-Gargano >>> anything from Wrestle Kingdom....."
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... and Aleister-Cole was better than Omega-Jericho.

That's all.

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124. "gotta say I agree"
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>... and Aleister-Cole was better than Omega-Jericho.
>


hmmmm... these 2 are about equal in my book but the one moment that sticks with me is Y2J locking in the Walls of Jericho on Red Shoes' son. that's some heel shit I've never seen before.

  

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145. "I might change my mind on a re-watch..."
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... but I thought the spots and pacing of Cole vs. Black were better, even if Jericho's overall performance was probably the single best part of either match.

I certainly don't think Jericho-Omega was bad by any stretch, but it suffered from NJPW's tendency to have matches go super-long for the sake of length alone. If they kept it to 20 minutes or so I might agree with Meltzer's ***** but as is it feels a bit like Omega/NJPW stannery.

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149. "i thought it was 4 to 4.5 stars"
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but I also thought it was a good length. As stated before it really came off as them hating each other so I thought 35 for that and the other main event was perfect.

  

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125. "I'll give you Almas-Gargano"
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Omega-Jericho and Cole-Black were about equal to me.

That Almas and Gargano match though good god that was pretty damn amazing and honestly may end up MOTY.

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146. "Almas-Gargano entered the pantheon of matches I'd show to non-fans..."
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... to show them why I love wrestling. It's pretty much perfect and I think a complete outsider or even a hater of the form could watch it and appreciate it.

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148. "I had the same exact thought"
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>... to show them why I love wrestling. It's pretty much
>perfect and I think a complete outsider or even a hater of the
>form could watch it and appreciate it.

Gargano may not have the most well-rounded character just yet, but in-match there's no one better at playing the babyface-in-peril. Absolutely no one. That's perfect for showing non-fans/casual fans cause they go in thinking "maybe this will be fun" and then by the end they are screaming in agony every time the babyface looks like they're in trouble and jumping up-and-down at the hope spots. I showed it to my buddy after the rumble and he had already seen Almas with the title so he knew who won... still had all the same reactions I did.

  

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127. "*breathes sigh of relief* listen, Omega v Jericho wasn't that special..."
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That's a standard hardcore match man, one that Dean Ambrose probably wrestles at every house show three times a week. It was cool because it was Jericho in Japan, and Omega is obviously a special talent, but it wasn't especially unique.

  

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130. "I felt that way the first time I watched it"
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but enjoyed the storytelling much more on rewatching it. I thought they turned it into a blood feud with very little interaction beforehand and the match itself had a great build/payoff.

  

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135. "The match plus the story told is what sold it for me"
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It was a very good match for what little interaction they could have. You felt like it turned from a simple competition on who's better to two people that grew to hate each other.

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150. "Ambrose doesn't have a match in his career"
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equal to Omega-Jericho

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152. "Those Shield-Wyatts trios matches are pretty close, man."
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126. "The MMC is fun as SHIT. "
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They pretty much gave away Bliss and Braun winning, since they're playing for Connor's Cure, but the match with Becky and Sami was a lot of fun. Looking forward to seeing the Mandy/Goldust team next week.

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128. "I didn't catch last night but it's been a lot of fun"
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Finn/Sasha and Miz/Asuka are great team-ups, New Day wearing Carmella's gear alone was worth it, and Braun and Bliss' videos are hilarious.

  

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129. "lmao, just saw this........THE LUNCHBOX!!!! "
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> New Day wearing >Carmella's gear alone was worth it, a

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132. "lol, i don't think anyone watched the 2nd week unfortunately"
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the views went down from the 1st week and it got lost in the post-Raw25, pre-Rumble mix.

  

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142. "is it on the network?"
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i follow some of the divas on IG so i keep seeing some of the vignettes and they're hilarious.

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143. "yeah i think they put it up on the network the next day n/m"
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>i follow some of the divas on IG so i keep seeing some of the
>vignettes and they're hilarious.

  

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136. "Wait till you see the finish of that match. It's a lot of fun."
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153. "keeps getting better every week"
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best idea they've had in a while.

  

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154. "how easy is it to just let these people rip? "
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This is the kind of stuff they need to do so much more of: https://instagram.com/p/Beq2apqgfow/

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155. "See? That 1 minute just got Mandy Rose over with me a little"
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It allows them to be sorta candid w/o breaking character conpletely. Actually it helps their characters cause they're interacting with people they wouldn't have before. Becky trusting Sami and then him being a coward about tagging in and acting like it was all a big mix-up was perfect. Lots of little moments like that.

Kinda sad Goldust spent like a month trying to pump up Cedric Alexander on TV with what they wrote and couldn't help the kid but he does a photo shoot with Mandy Rose and it's far more entertaining.

  

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173. "Match good too. Mandy as "Worker Marlena" is GREAT"
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The stereo power slams were pretty choice too. And the post-match Rusev/Lana promo was brilliant. Rusev calling everyone by their "not quite right" nicknames (BobRoode, "Jim") is comedy gold

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177. ""BobRoode" KILLED me"
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he's a genius and his twitter is GOLD

  

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205. "The first few mins of their match was hilarious..."
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Goldust taking a breather after the running and shouting "I'm a lot older than you".
DB not making the count as Goldust went for the kiss was hilarious as well.

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131. "so when did the Uso's get good on the mic"
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i like this rap adlib call & response thing they got going.

also...wtf at them burning a KO/Zayn/AJ/Nakamura match on a random smackdown.

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133. "they've steadily gotten better since changing the gimmick"
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>i like this rap adlib call & response thing they got going.
>

me too. last night was their best work imo. actually it seemed like they were leading in to a classic team returning to interrupt them and then the BludgeBros music hit and I was like "oh right, I forgot about these fuckers."

  

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151. "the crowd looked dead shook at them too"
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that Locked Down sequence had me hype.

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137. "They didn't have a lot of opportunity when they were the "Happy Headhunt..."
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Once they switched from the pre-match Haka, "barefooted savage" role to being just dudes who happen to be Samoan, everything got better. Match quality, promos, etc.

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138. "they could NEVER quite sync up on that entrance"
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>Once they switched from the pre-match Haka, "barefooted
>savage" role to being just dudes who happen to be Samoan,
>everything got better. Match quality, promos, etc.

their music was actually good but there was just too much going on before it hit

  

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134. "RE: Revival, I'm sticking to my thought, theyre gettin a legend team@ WM"
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139. "So long as it doesn't end up like Raw 25, fine."
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140. "agreed"
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141. "Hell, have it be the Dudleyz"
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They've shown they're willing to put over young tag teams, they'll be there for the HoF, and the Revival can promo on how they're considered an all-time great tag team but they're just dumb catchphrases and tables.

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144. "I like it!! "
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147. "TJP vs. Tyler Bate from 205 Live last night was really great..."
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The last few weeks of 205 Live post-Enzo have been solid, and tournaments are usually pretty awesome, so maybe the weeks leading up to WM will turn the brand around.

And man, they need to do something more with Bate. He's phenomenal and always gets crowds to buy in. His height is probably gonna limit how far he can go in the company but he should at least get a shot as a 205 regular if nothing else.

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159. "Word is Vince has taken his hooks out of 205."
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NXT and 205 are all Hunter's now.

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156. "is it me or did Kurt sound really bad tonight..."
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like he's really struggling announcing this women's elimination chamber match

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157. "I noticed it too"
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I want to believe he just fumbled from the start and had a hard time recovering.

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158. "Is this fun?"
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At the 16 Rumble, Braun eliminated Kane, Brock eliminated Braun and Braun and the Wyatts eliminated Brock.

I misspelled eliminated twice while conveying this.

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160. "braun playing a fuckin bass like a guitar this dude a fool"
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161. "listen man, funny is funny, and that was funny"
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162. "every goofy thing they've had braun do has been gold"
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and not made him look like a joke while doing it. he got that attitude era swag.

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166. "yup, he's scary no matter what they do with his character"
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>and not made him look like a joke while doing it. he got that
>attitude era swag.

the braun/bliss interactions were adorable and took nothing away from him.

  

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174. "the one where she tries to flip the car had me dying"
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lowkey these MMC vids have been some of the most entertaining stuff of late. the New Day/Carmella stuff was good too.

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175. "And they brought back the best couple in the WORLD!"
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Rusev with his new personality, WITH Lana was fantastic. Throw them in with English on regular TV, and start printing money.

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170. "that's the thing, he's a badass but everything feels authentic"
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>he got that
>attitude era swag.

it's reminiscent of Austin's "WHAT"-era stuff

  

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163. "That was a great moment"
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Dude can really pull anything off. Get these hands is a great phrase for him also.

As much as they try to manufacture Roman to being "the guy", from a fan standpoint Bruan has it. They need to get a title on this man quick.

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167. "fucking brilliant"
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i kinda want to hear him sing for real now. he was going acapella so it got messy, but it seemed like he could carry a tune if there was music behind him.

  

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176. "Braun Stapleton "
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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164. "Doesn't Cena get bored of his own pep talks at this point?"
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"(insert goal), (insert reason why it's so important to everybody), (insert reason why it's extra important to him), NOW LET'S GET IT!"

i love ya john, but cmon dawg. they're not gonna leave you off the mania card if you don't win the chamber match. that's just silly.

  

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172. "I clicked that on accident on YouTube, heard about 20 seconds of "preach..."
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165. "Can you imagine if we didn't know Reigns was fighting Lesnar?"
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How great would this Elimination Chamber be?

Cena
Rollins
Balor
Reigns
Miz
Strowman
Elias

Elias won't win but will be that role of the guy everyone is super hot for and excites you just at the chance- like when Santino came in 2nd in an elimination chamber when he was red hot

Cena/Rollins/Balor/Reigns/Miz all have some path where you could see them main eventing WM with a good story. Cena's record win, Rollins rebuild complete, Balor in the david vs goliath match, Reigns as Reigns and Miz in a champ vs champ match after the best 2 years of his career.

I'd be so fucking hyped! But they spent a year making it obvious Reigns is getting this spot so there is little excitement other than a cool match.

  

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168. "I had to talk my friend out of hope for The Miz"
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I made it clear to him I hope he's right, but it's Roman's show and there's no stopping it.

  

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169. "you can't *completely* rule out Strowman"
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I know it's gonna be Reigns. And I know that even if Strowman wins, they'll shoehorn Reigns in on some silly Dusty finish BS. But I could see a Strowman gets in scenario.

Strowman is so ready. I think they have it in their heads now that the top guy has to be able to go on Good Morning America, and do Make-A-Wish appearances regularly, and ring the New York stock exchange bell with a smile on his face - that the "top guy" role isn't just being the guy on top, but the guy in public too. Who's to say Strowman couldn't do that?

Elias just chillin and playing guitar in one of them pods though? Yes please.

  

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178. "I pray they have Elias playing guitar in the chamber pod"
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I want Bruan to have enough of it and do something freak of nature like with the pod.

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179. "idk if Braun will fit"
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>I want Bruan to have enough of it and do something freak of
>nature like with the pod.

  

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180. "I mean with someone elses pod"
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While they're still in it

If they can find a way to have him completely rip someones pod out with them still in it that would be one of the most incredible things the WWE could do right now. Have him pick one up and toss that shit across the ring. The man already flipped a truck, this should be easy.

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181. "haha, or rip out both doors simultaneously"
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while 4 refs are playing tug-of-war on the other side.

  

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182. "MAYBE we get a triple threat, but Mania is for Reigns"
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I think what we'll see is Reigns beat Lesnar, maybe 1 on 1, maybe in a triple threat.

I think Summerlsam is Roman vs Braun

Maybe in between Braun finally beats Brock to send him on a long vacation and push Braun to the summerslam main event.

Also I'm excited to just have the champion back on TV and have wrestlers able to compete for it again once Brock drops it. Give Balor, Rollins, Braun, Joe etc... something to compete for.

  

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183. "I agree. I'm fine with a Reigns title run."
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the rest of the Mania card is shaping up REAL nicely so it's tough to complain, but to Y2's point: these two pre-Mania ppvs look very anticlimactic.

  

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171. "RE: Can you imagine if we didn't know Reigns was fighting Lesnar?"
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>Elias won't win but will be that role of the guy everyone is
>super hot for and excites you just at the chance- like when
>Santino came in 2nd in an elimination chamber when he was red
>hot


^^^^^This....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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184. "happy Rusev Day, y’all!"
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Yet again. Give people time to shine and they knock it out of the gotdamned park. Rusev/anyone main eventing the next Mania, please and thank you.

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185. "Talking with one of my friends...could this happen??"
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An 8 team Tag Team tournament as a way to give a little bit of interest to a pitiful tag team scene...this is my proposal...

8 teams in a bracket format. The tag champs of each show as the #1 seeds. Then fill in the other six...my example would be Usos, Bar, New Day, Gun and Gallows, Revival, Authors of Pain, War Machine and (since they are gonna get push) Bludgeon Brothers.

Mix and match the teams for a bit more exposure during the first round matches (Revival goes to SD or Bludgeon brothers go to Raw)

The semifinals and Finals could happen at the new and improved King of the Ring PPV with the winner named the Tag Team Kings of the Ring and awarded a title shot of their choice at SummerSlam.

Feasible? Bad idea? What do you think?

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186. "Really cool idea "
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Would be great to have a Royal Rumble/MITB equivalent for tag teams, a way to earn an automatic shot

  

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188. "I like it, and if there's anything they should've learned"
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over the last couple years, it's that tournaments almost always work

>The semifinals and Finals could happen at the new and improved
>King of the Ring PPV with the winner named the Tag Team Kings
>of the Ring and awarded a title shot of their choice at
>SummerSlam.

last I heard Vince HATES King of the Ring and that's why the last one was a really feeble attempt at a tournament and it was all on Smackdown iirc. Now that Vince is slowly starting to loosen his grip on the product it could make a comeback though. The King gimmick has kinda run it's course but I think a "Tag Kings" gimmick could be a nice fresh spin.

  

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190. "idk, maybe just bring the Duthty Classic up to the main?"
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191. "2nd one didn't have nearly the same appeal as the 1st"
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so i'm all for it but they gotta give a shit first

  

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193. "The second one really, truly got DIY over"
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Their story with the Revival fuckin up their chances against AOP was GREAT. Not quite as good as the Finn and Joe stuff, but it built to one of the best tag matches ever and ended up setting up one of their best stories (assuming that Johnny isn't off to 205).

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187. "anybody else think this women's revolution execution is corny?"
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like...yall made a marketing gimmick out of the feminism and current MeToo wave, when other brands been had legitimate women's divisons w/ multiple belts, tag teams and main events.

and EVEN STILL with the increased focus yall can only tell 1 story revolving around the belt on each brand.

i kind of wonder if the division would be better off just having a GLOW show for the women instead of still being piss break status on Raw/SD

and now this rumor that Ronda's coming to help get Stephanie over in the mainstream....lmao
http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2018/0208/636804/wwe-using-ronda-rousey-to-help-make-stephanie-mcmahon-a-big-star/

im just thinking out loud here
everytime i hear
"the FIRST women's royal rumble" "the FIRST women's money in the bank" "the FIRST elimination chamber" i just look around like do yall realize you're telling everybody "hey we're MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD late on this women's wrestling thing"

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189. "lmao, the McMahons using it to put themselves over is awful"
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i totally agree they talk WAY too much about all the history they're making with each "first." All the firsts are worth mentioning like once but it's insulting/condescending to the women to drive it into the ground. I wish they'd save the back-patting for the retrospective documentaries in 10-20 years.

>i kind of wonder if the division would be better off just
>having a GLOW show for the women instead of still being piss
>break status on Raw/SD

they could probably pull this off at this point, but if it's not at Full Sail I think it will sink like 205 Live. The stars of the division are too big for Full Sail though so that's a tricky one.

RE: they only write for the title program... the Sasha/Bayley slow build has me hopeful that will change.

  

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192. "It’s just another forced narrative in a company full of them"
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Hearing them talk about the “women’s revolution” is beyond tired. Many of the matches are quite good. They could do a lot better job booking the angles and developing characters.

  

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194. "again, it's main creative not paying attention to what got people over i..."
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It wasn't NXT saying "this is important," it was Paige and Emma putting on barnburners, it was Sasha and Bayley being undeniably the top two draws in the promotion at the time of Takeover Brooklyn, because they were given time, and just as importantly, patience to tell stories in and out of the ring.

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195. "This says it all"
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>It wasn't NXT saying "this is important," it was Paige and
>Emma putting on barnburners, it was Sasha and Bayley being
>undeniably the top two draws in the promotion at the time of
>Takeover Brooklyn, because they were given time, and just as
>importantly, patience to tell stories in and out of the ring.
>

They get pulled up to the main roster and can't put on half the matches they did in NXT where the wrestling got them over and they were involved in pretty good storylines.

They've proven time and time again they can go, so let them GO!

Instead we get "This is your life" segments with Bailey portraying her as a child or worse yet an adult who ain't wrapped too tight and never got to grow up. She's not Michael Jackson! They don't want to continue what got them over in NXT and it seems like their match quality goes down as well. It's got to be draining and I wouldn't doubt if eventually they start phoning it in.

They can main event if they want to, but creative is also short changing them, throwing them in six women tag matches all the damn time instead of letting them shine individually for the audience. I like Bliss as a heel, but there is no way she should still be champ with very few title defenses in the past few months and all that other female talent they have.

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197. "RE: This says it all"
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>>It wasn't NXT saying "this is important," it was Paige and
>>Emma putting on barnburners, it was Sasha and Bayley being
>>undeniably the top two draws in the promotion at the time of
>>Takeover Brooklyn, because they were given time, and just as
>>importantly, patience to tell stories in and out of the
>ring.
>>
>
>They get pulled up to the main roster and can't put on half
>the matches they did in NXT where the wrestling got them over
>and they were involved in pretty good storylines.
>
>They've proven time and time again they can go, so let them
>GO!
>
>Instead we get "This is your life" segments with Bailey
>portraying her as a child or worse yet an adult who ain't
>wrapped too tight and never got to grow up. She's not Michael
>Jackson! They don't want to continue what got them over in
>NXT and it seems like their match quality goes down as well.
>It's got to be draining and I wouldn't doubt if eventually
>they start phoning it in.

I'm guessing this is why when I see Bayley, Sasha, well most of the heralded NXT grads that I am very unimpressed. Besides the Charlotte/Banks series of title matches, the whole division is lacking for me...no distinct believable stories, lackluster matches terrible booking.
>
>They can main event if they want to, but creative is also
>short changing them, throwing them in six women tag matches
>all the damn time instead of letting them shine individually
>for the audience. I like Bliss as a heel, but there is no way
>she should still be champ with very few title defenses in the
>past few months and all that other female talent they have.



So many things wrong...how has Nia Jax - once built to be the Strowman of the women - now just "there"? Besides the new faction and Bliss, there are no heels at all, and that aspect is worse on Smackdown where everyone is friends against the three newbies. They give corny mofos like Breezango and New Day whole segments, but refuse to give one iota of support behind the "womens' revolution" outside of lip service. Now they're putting Rousey on Raw and will probably give her a WM spot ahead of all the workers that built the platform to start with...WWE is so bad with this stuff...

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196. "Smackdown is so very bad right now"
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There are some bright spots here and there but they've stopped writing for the women, have inexplicably added Zigs and Corbin to the title match, the top 10 thing is dumb so far, and I'm also pretty bored with the US title. I don't believe the Riott Squad has actually won a match but we're supposed to think they're a terrifying new heel faction.

And this whole Ziggler debacle over the past couple months is insanely stupid. I could write an essay on everything bad about this. They either didn't plan this out at all or they made a few different ways to go with it and abandoned all of them.

  

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198. "The Ziggler thing has made zero sense"
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Turn him heel (which is fine) then have hi,win the US title...just to give it up...then disappear for a month and a half and then...return to go for a title shot? Again, the story telling doesn't make any sense.

Roode as US Champ...meh. I liked him in TNA, but never saw him as top of the card guy as a singles wrestler. The way he got there was convoluted at best, and besides the entry music, nothing stands out for me with him.

The AJ/Owens/Zayn thing is growing tired, but I think that's because it's an extension of the Shane/ Bryan "thing"...why they are using the world title as a pawn in that game is silly IMHO.

The women's division is just bad...everyone is friends against the Riott Squad, who show little reason to garner such attention. They have Flair, Naomi, Natalya, even Lynch, and can't come up with way to showcase the talent...pathetic.

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199. "Problem with Roode is he's not a great baby. Dude is a natural heel."
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I've heard him described as "imagine Arn Anderson thinks he's Ric Flair," and that's pretty apt. As NXT champ, he was an arrogant dickhead heel. Yes, despite that music being over as fuck (and DIY Glorious Bombing everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3oCVsfPmB4).

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200. "I'm 99% I came up with that."
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>I've heard him described as "imagine Arn Anderson thinks he's
>Ric Flair," and that's pretty apt.

Put "Stan Wilkerson" after those damn quotes.

  

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201. "It was either you or Stroud. I think it was you."
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202. "Yup yup"
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203. "*puts on Robe that says "King of Quotes" on the back*"
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>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2602459&mesg_id=2602459&listing_type=search#2602547

  

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204. "RE: I'm 99% I came up with that."
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>>I've heard him described as "imagine Arn Anderson thinks
>he's
>>Ric Flair," and that's pretty apt.
>
>Put "Stan Wilkerson" after those damn quotes.

It was amongst your best works!

I’m guessing wwe wants to milk his heel persona by positioning him to turn in some amazingly scumbag way. So that way, he gets the turn heat added onto ‘this guy is a jerk’ heel heat that we all know he’s great at. If I’m right, it’s gonna be a fun fall on smackdown. As it stands, smackdown is an exhibition of talent squandering.

  

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207. "The only thing that can redeem the Ziggler thing is..."
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if he wins the title at Fastlane. Obviously he'd drop it before Mania but that would be a great "I told you so!" promo on SD the Tuesday after, and some added drama going into Mania with AJ chasing the title back. The only thing that's likely to happen in the AJ/Shinsuke build anyway is miscommunication in random tag matches.

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206. "The past 3 weeks of 205 have been excellent..."
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If anyone was a fan of the CWC then they should really be watching this. It's 2 matches per show at the moment as part of the title tournament and Gulak & Neese had a genuinely great match this week. Good work Hunter. The real test will be after Mania though and how they can readjust their style outside of the tournament format.

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208. "they let jeff fucking jarrett in the hall of fame?"
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this has gotta be because wwe is eating off tna developing talent.

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209. "RE: they let jeff fucking jarrett in the hall of fame?"
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>this has gotta be because wwe is eating off tna developing
>talent.

There almost has to be a specific reason that is not related to Jarrett. Tape libraries that Jerry has? Jeff is somehow still involved with something TNA-related or he has an in that will allow WWE to quit messing around? IE: TNA is forreal about to die and this is a means to that inevitable end?

  

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211. "^^^^^ Nailed it"
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>There almost has to be a specific reason that is not related
>to Jarrett. Tape libraries that Jerry has?

If Vince can get his hands on the full amount of Memphis wrestling tapes he could put those on the network and I would watch religiously. Between Jeff (really Jerry Jarrett though) and Lawler they probably have about 80% of the library already. The last 20% is in the air because the guy who had control in its last good years (Angle, Rock tapes) died in a car crash several years ago and him and Lawler weren't on speaking terms at that point.

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210. "They running out of people"
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These classes are pretty big and have been getting worse every year. The Dudleys are the only ones I give a shit about.

  

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217. "There's only 1 requirement for getting in"
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Are you on good terms with WWE at the time?

Look at the names who got in before Macho Man who only got in because he died.

Koko B. ware is in the Hall of fame, The Godfather is in the hall of fame.

It's not that unreasonable to put in a 4 time IC champ, multiple tag champ and WCW world champ to be in, as unimpressive as most of his runs were.

If you were ever pretty over and are on speaking terms with WWE you're getting in

  

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218. "Absolutely correct"
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>Are you on good terms with WWE at the time?
>
>Look at the names who got in before Macho Man who only got in
>because he died.
>
>Koko B. ware is in the Hall of fame, The Godfather is in the
>hall of fame.
>
>It's not that unreasonable to put in a 4 time IC champ,
>multiple tag champ and WCW world champ to be in, as
>unimpressive as most of his runs were.
>
>If you were ever pretty over and are on speaking terms with
>WWE you're getting in
>
I's so arbitrary who gets in and who is in exile...blow Vince, get a shrine...work your ass off but fall out with VKM, ass out.

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219. "Simple, Vince wants them tapes for the network"
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This may be his way of getting them. It's a lot of people with WWE that have heat with Jarrett, they honestly have no reason to let him in for that alone.


BUT

As shitty as he may have been, that man was a hell of an IC champion, and he had massive heat at times. I remember hating this motherfucker which means he was doing his job.

And lets be real, anyone responsible for this may deserve to be in the hall of fame https://www.instagram.com/p/BfZxpJmB8LE/

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212. "lol, they took away Apollo Crews' last name too"
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https://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2018/2/19/17029594/apollo-loses-crews-newest-one-name-wwe-superstar

so dumb and unnecessary.

  

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213. "This Gauntlet match is the best idea for a Raw ep"
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And we're not even a third of the way through.

Edit: and this is the best Rollins has looked since coming back from the injury. Helluva worker.

  

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215. "Man, let Vince keep focusing on football. "
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The Rumble was bullshit-free, and actually played with fans in the right way (and even set up the current Cena story, as he was starting to react to the crowd chatter during the Rumble). Strowman's out here crushing people with upright basses. 2 hour gauntlet matches. WATTBA.

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216. "I hope the XFL does great for that one reason"
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If it keeps his hands off stuff and we get things like this in return I'm all for it.

Shit, let him make an Xtream Soccer, Baseball, and Hockey League. As long as it keeps him busy enough to stay off wrestling.

I was highly entertained last night and we had 2 hours of wrestling instead of Stephanie talking about how she refused to sit on the back of the bus so black folks could ride up front.

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214. "so the whole night is gonna be the gauntlet match"
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boy they better get an extra check for this lmao.

damn and now rollins gotta fight another one.

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220. "Prediction Series: The Chamber (Fuck Bonuses edition)"
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I'm a little woozy after getting my wisdom teeth yanked out of my skull today, so here's this short ass card with no bonuses:

https://tinyurl.com/y9af5lk7

Thinking I'll start a new post when we get to Fastlane or something. It's Mania season so these are bound to get long.

  

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221. "Be well ASAP"
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222. "Mind if I add the bonus Qs?"
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223. "sure!"
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224. "I think the group will enjoy the last two."
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225. "lol"
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That last one would be fun but I still think Vince doesn't get Broken/Woken Matt Hardy. He's just letting it happen to sell some merch. After a hot start this feud has been pretty meh.

  

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226. "I think we're seeing the cracks in Vince's control"
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past years he'd have NEVER allowed Nak to win the Rumble. He's in XFL mode.

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227. "true, I didn't think he'd let BOTH Nak and Asuka win n/m"
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>past years he'd have NEVER allowed Nak to win the Rumble.
>He's in XFL mode.

  

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228. "Someone added their choices on my name"
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Might want to check so whoever did doesn't miss out on their picks

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229. "*hardest eyeroll ever* @ the mens EC ending."
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jfc stop w/ the reigns shit already. that was fucking asinine.

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230. "Reigns would’ve made sense had Strowman never happened"
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But now, they’ve got a nuclear-over superstar in Strowman that happened organically that they obviously didn’t anticipate. Rather than Pivot to cashing in on Strowman, they’ve double down on their master plan and will AGAIN put Reigns in the main event. It’s as if they feel both guys can’t be on top at once, like only one guy can be Lesnar’s equal.

Had Strowman never come along Reigns is of course the pick to be the next guy. But he did, and they’re spinning their wheels with him as a result of their unwavering obsession with Reigns.

  

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231. "i cant believe *HE* is going to main event mania 4 years* running"
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*probably more at this rate. it's a fucking joke. most fans dont even like him and i bet even the ones that do are tired of him. hell i'd rather see cena win than him at this poiint

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235. "This dude was the 4th Wyatt"
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what a meteoric rise just to job to Roman.....again.

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232. "So weird how they keep Strowman super-strong but won't just pull the tri..."
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Obviously Vince carved Reigns-Lesnar in stone a year ago and they've been forced to keep that course, and I'd bet on Strowman getting his run with the belt at Summerslam if not earlier, but it's so strange to me that the company clearly acknowledges that Braun is a superstar *right now* yet won't just go ahead and push him as far as he can go *right now*.

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233. "Shrug. New Year, same ol' McMania bullshit."
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I'm not even mad at Roman/Lesnar. I think they put on an excellent match during their Mania bout that was WELL on its way to becoming a timeless, bonafide classic with 5 more minutes without the cash-in.

But this Mania should have been Reigns vs Braun. Reigns should have had the title match at Rumble, Braun should have had the same dominant Chamber match, and the smartest money here, short and long term, was Reigns vs Braun, with Braun being coronated in an OVERT double turn that begins tomorrow night.

But as usual, this is Mania season, where smart, nuanced ideas will get shelved in favor of more of the McSame, McMundane, Paint-By-McNumbers snorefest.

This shit is like Hometown Buffet or Golden Corral. Sure there's ostensibly "something for everyone", but there's no soul in that kitchen. No spice. No seasoning.

Just bland, muted flavors used in order to appeal to the broadest palette possible, despite the fact that they could EASILY utilize the same ingredients in more interesting ways to create something that not only appeals to a broader audience, yet still ignites the passion and imagination of core fans.

No nuance
No imagination.
Not even an eye toward the big picture.

What's funny is that this year, they cant even point to fans being enamored with some Indy darling who doesn't translate to a broader appeal. This time it's the most blatantly traditional pro wrestling archetype, a guy who is literally larger than life and overflows with old school charisma.

He's correctly tagged Monster Among Men. Despite being absurdly overpowered(I mean... come the fuck on. That shit is cringe worthy at this point) in ridiculous ways, he's still red hot. The people are behind him. He's the ultimate cake-and-eat-it-to option.

There's no reasonable counter argument to this. There has never been more proof that Vince does not listen to the fans than the creative choices between RR and EC. There's no easy deflection. There's no plausible rebuttal.

I like Reigns. I'm good with him and Brock and I think they'll prove worthy of a Mania main event. But it's clearly, inarguably the lesser option creatively and economically.

The timing was perfect to pivot. The fans have spoken, and they- we- have clearly chosen a guy who checks every one of Vince's traditional boxes, and then some.

But then, this is par for the McCourse. Every year.

  

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234. "^^^all of this "
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236. "RE: Shrug. New Year, same ol' McMania bullshit."
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>I'm not even mad at Roman/Lesnar. I think they put on an
>excellent match during their Mania bout that was WELL on its
>way to becoming a timeless, bonafide classic with 5 more
>minutes without the cash-in.
>
>But this Mania should have been Reigns vs Braun. Reigns should
>have had the title match at Rumble, Braun should have had the
>same dominant Chamber match, and the smartest money here,
>short and long term, was Reigns vs Braun, with Braun being
>coronated in an OVERT double turn that begins tomorrow night.
>
>But as usual, this is Mania season, where smart, nuanced ideas
>will get shelved in favor of more of the McSame, McMundane,
>Paint-By-McNumbers snorefest.
>
>This shit is like Hometown Buffet or Golden Corral. Sure
>there's ostensibly "something for everyone", but there's no
>soul in that kitchen. No spice. No seasoning.
>
>Just bland, muted flavors used in order to appeal to the
>broadest palette possible, despite the fact that they could
>EASILY utilize the same ingredients in more interesting ways
>to create something that not only appeals to a broader
>audience, yet still ignites the passion and imagination of
>core fans.
>
>No nuance
>No imagination.
>Not even an eye toward the big picture.
>
>What's funny is that this year, they cant even point to fans
>being enamored with some Indy darling who doesn't translate to
>a broader appeal. This time it's the most blatantly
>traditional pro wrestling archetype, a guy who is literally
>larger than life and overflows with old school charisma.
>
>He's correctly tagged Monster Among Men. Despite being
>absurdly overpowered(I mean... come the fuck on. That shit is
>cringe worthy at this point) in ridiculous ways, he's still
>red hot. The people are behind him. He's the ultimate
>cake-and-eat-it-to option.
>
>There's no reasonable counter argument to this. There has
>never been more proof that Vince does not listen to the fans
>than the creative choices between RR and EC. There's no easy
>deflection. There's no plausible rebuttal.
>
>I like Reigns. I'm good with him and Brock and I think they'll
>prove worthy of a Mania main event. But it's clearly,
>inarguably the lesser option creatively and economically.
>
>The timing was perfect to pivot. The fans have spoken, and
>they- we- have clearly chosen a guy who checks every one of
>Vince's traditional boxes, and then some.
>
>But then, this is par for the McCourse. Every year.

I wonder how much Brock takes away their flexibility. Aka let’s say that Haitch or someone near the top ‘understands’ that Strowman should be the guy and soon. But they need to deal with the whole Brock is champ and wrestles an hour a year issue. Also, if that Dean Ambrose Mania match is any indication, Brock isn’t above not giving up real offense if he’s not interested in the opponent. And he’s likely not above vetoing an opponent either...especially if he’s supposed to lose.

This doesn’t let them off the hook of course. They made the Brock bed that they are lying in. But I wonder if they will be relieved to have him gone whenever that time comes.

There’s also the potential for Braun to get added. Otherwise, I’m not sure what other huge spot he could get. Tagging with Rousey is not huge for Strowman by the way.

  

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237. "hot take: the women’s EC was way better than the men’s"
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The women’s match told a story, I truly didn’t know who would win, and it had a good finish that made sense. The alliances were built up, made sense, and had more drama and tension of when they would end.

The men’s match was a cartoon where they all kept hitting their finishers and kicking out, and the ending was predictable. The “alliances” were mostly played for jokes. Just a big jokey finisher fest like a video game match, with the guy nobody wants to win predictably winning.

  

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238. "Word to Ronda immediately becoming the worst person they have on the mic"
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Glad they're going to hide her in the celebrity spot tagging with Kurt, but man, was that segment laughable.

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239. "i always thought Kurt couldn't wrestle anymore"
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like he had neck problems or something.

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241. "You didn't see him looking like a thumb in Shield gear?"
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243. "lmao"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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247. "i must've missed it."
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cause i damn sure would've remembered that.

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248. "RE: i must've missed it."
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http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Kurt-Angle-the-SHIELD-6.jpg

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256. "I prefer this image"
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https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/angle.jpg?quality=95&w=650

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257. "Wheres your neck? Wheres your neck?"
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240. "Paul E. will save the day"
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and then $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$kies the limit

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242. "he better get on that shit tonight, before she says another word"
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BTW, Baszler meanwhile just ripping shit down in NXT on that microphone. In that ring.

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245. "the match was so obviously Ronda/Brock vs Hunter/Stephanie"
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if you can't get Rock, what casual fan who only tunes in for Mania wouldn't want to see Ronda/Brock vs Hunter/Stephanie ?

You could have even called it "Dangerous Alliance vs the Authority"

imagine Rousey and Lesnar teaming up

  

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246. "I don't think they thought she'd be as awful on mic as she is"
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Because Brock is low-key fantastic as a promo. He's just never around, so you need Heyman to keep his feuds bubbling.

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249. "I think that's a bad idea. I think fans will bury her for that"
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Imo she needs to be out there cutti g her teeth. She may need to fail a little first. She needs a story that shows that this isn't as easy as she may have thought and she needs to scratch a little.

I think making her the female Lesnar, in any regard, would be an awful move because she doesn't have that type of cache right now and fans will kill her if she's over protected. She needs to be a badass, but also sympathetic.

  

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255. "She needed an NXT run is what she needed. "
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244. "if you're going to split the brands then use them the right way"
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I'm as happy for Nakamura as the next mark but you're going to get, what, another two years from him?

Why wouldn't you instead put Strowman on one show and Reigns on another? They NAILED this when they brought Batista and Cena up at the exact same time. Those guys were attached at the hip, and the company knew that Batista was hotter at the time but that Cena had more upside. At Wrestlemania 21, Cena won the WWE Title from JBL in a co-main event and Batista main evented against Triple H. All goals were accomplished - WWE managed to capitalize on Batista's meteoric rise and sudden popularity while still laying in the foundation of Cena's now-historic run. YOU CAN GET TWO BIG GUYS OVER AT ONCE - IT CAN BE DONE.

  

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250. "Shinsuke's limited shelf life is why you run with him now. "
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AJ as well.

They ARE using the brand split correctly, in terms of dividing the roster. It's divided correctly.

What you're describing would be far worse than what they have now, as it would be yet another band-aid that alloows them to wallow deeper into their worst proclivities at the expense of other talents. It would be yet another mu same solution as opposed to creative atorytelling.

Reigns and Braun should be joined at the hip, but the fans have made Braun the face. So it's time for Reigns to embrace that hate and go heel. Bring up AOP as his enforcers, add a 4th guy with mic skills to the mix, and BOOM. ROMAN Empire is born and Braun has something major to contend with.

There's enough creative ineptitude as it is, on both shows, but putting Reigns on one and Braun on the other would just make both shows more of the McSame.

  

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251. "you may be right. "
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i do agree with you that the best match they could make would be a big time Braun vs Reigns match. Book it really silly and violent and just print cash

  

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252. "AJ/Seth match > Braun/Roman"
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254. "Not really. Not until/unless they build history first. "
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Braun and Roman have an intrigue based on history and their 1a/1b stature behind Brock, and the Hossyness of their battles is equally interesting as the insane workrate an Aj/Seth match would be.

  

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253. "Silly? No. Violent? Absolutely."
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>i do agree with you that the best match they could make would
>be a big time Braun vs Reigns match. Book it really silly and
>violent and just print cash

We need less silliness. Just make it a fight. Boss level hoss shit. The end.

Theyh don't need gimmicks. They don't need attempted murder or any other theatrics. They just need to beat the dogshit out of each other for 20 minutes, even-steven, until the last 5 minutes where one gets the advantage.

After that, build that Roman Empire and let Braun deal with stacked odds of brutal men. But more more "silliness".

  

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258. "I'm curious what Strowman can actually do"
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we haven't really seen a solid match from him yet...a lot of great stunts and he fit great in that Summerslam four-way, but his one straight "wrestling" match against Lesnar sucked. So I don't know what to expect.

  

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260. "He's not exactly Sheamus"
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Yeah, I said it. I said it on OKP, I said it.

From a pure Hoss standpoint, Sheamus is one of the best I've ever seen. I'd love to see him have a stint in NJPW at some point while he can still go. And Sheamus can absolutely go.

Anyhow, Braun ain't that. He's old school. Not Earthquake, but he's the prototypical Immovable Object in ways typically embodied by embarrassingly bad stiffs like The Great Khali, and those guys historically have short shelf lives. Braun isn't that.

But he's actually rather nimble in there and while he's green, he can go. Prior matches with Reigns or Big Show are good examples. But while he's not quite at that main event level in terms of work rate, he's a fantastic mix of, well, everything. Monstrous size and appearance, blah blah blah, but he's deceptively quick for his size, has showcased surprising athleticism, and most importantly, has a connection with the fans no amount of 450 splashes can ever create.

Plus everyone hates Roman, and even guys like me, who genuinely like Roman and think most are laying it on extra thick in their disdain for him, still cheer when Braun catches him with those hands (c).

And make no mistake: Roman CAN work. He got credit early for his match with Bryan, for example, for "holding up his end". But he's since proven he can put together high quality main event matches with just about anyone- Braun included.

Roman and Braun has all the ingredients for a fantastic Mania Main Event...... except quality, sensible storytelling.

  

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261. "Reigns, strictly as a performer, is a stud. His match with AJ? Flames."
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269. "His last WM match with Lesnar was fire. Even before the cash-in."
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