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"Poll question: 19y/o is a 'sex offender' - girl he slept with ‘lied about her age’ ..."
Sun Aug-09-15 10:34 AM by ThaTruth

          

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Teen can’t live with his family anymore because a girl he slept with ‘lied about her age’
Harry Readhead for Metro.co.ukFriday 7 Aug 2015 2:07 pm
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Zach Anderson is no longer allowed to live at home with his family.

He can’t use the internet, take a walk in the park or go shopping.

In his words, he’s an ‘outcast from society’.

Why? Because he had sex with a 14-year-old who claimed she was 17 and is now a registered sex offender.

The 19-year-old, from Indiana, met the girl via a dating app called Hot or Not, on which she told him she was over the legal age of consent. But Zach was arrested after the pair slept together. Then he was convicted. He now finds himself on the Elkhart County sex offender register alongside child molesters and rapists.

Even the girl’s mother testified in court that she didn’t want Zach labelled as a sex offender because ‘he really is not.’

In a letter written by the girl to Zach’s family, she said she was ‘sorry I didn’t tell you my age. I really don’t want you to hate me.

‘It kills me everyday knowing that you are going through hell and I’m not. I want to be in trouble and not you.’

But Judge Dennis Wiley was far from sympathetic. Sentencing Zach, he said: ‘That seems to be part of our culture now. Meet, have sex, sayonara.

‘Totally inappropriate behaviour. There is no excuse for this, whatsoever.’




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Poll result (21 votes)
Fuct up (15 votes)Vote
Good he deserves it, shouldn't have been so damn thirsty (3 votes)Vote
I'm withholding judgement til I see what this fast ass 14y/o looks like (2 votes)Vote
I'm white (1 votes)Vote

  

  

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Casual sex has risks for both boys and girls
Aug 09th 2015
1
Yeah on one hand I think it's fucked up, on the other hand I feel like.....
Aug 09th 2015
3
      She was actually 13 at the time
Aug 09th 2015
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      Damn, and pretty much all college students have to use the internet...
Aug 09th 2015
5
      yeah i feel like i can spot a 13-14yo too. but reality is he prob was.
Aug 09th 2015
10
      thing is do any of these dating sites allow 17 year olds?
Aug 09th 2015
12
           but if she told dude she was 17 that would explain her being able
Aug 09th 2015
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                If she told dude she was 17, she admitted 18 her posted age
Aug 09th 2015
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      Yeah ppl say this but I don't believe it's always true...
Aug 10th 2015
22
           pretty much.
Aug 10th 2015
27
           Yeah but as a college student you can say
Aug 10th 2015
65
           yeah well say THAT then but to say
Aug 10th 2015
76
                This thread is about the risk of casual hookups
Aug 10th 2015
80
           yeah there are definitely some exceptions out there
Aug 10th 2015
73
You would think the courts would exercise some discretion and
Aug 09th 2015
2
Unfortunately, it always falls on the guy to get proof.
Aug 09th 2015
6
      It varies by state
Aug 09th 2015
7
      I'm not even getting into the law...
Aug 09th 2015
8
      It's on the older person male or female
Aug 09th 2015
9
           Too bad women get far more lenient sentences if ever convicted.
Aug 09th 2015
15
           i don't think that's true
Aug 10th 2015
36
           who's responsibility is it if you don't know you're the older person?
Aug 09th 2015
20
                lol right.
Aug 10th 2015
28
                true
Aug 10th 2015
34
Talk to your sons and make sure they understand the consequences of sex
Aug 09th 2015
11
yet another reason why I'm 100% against the sex offender registry
Aug 09th 2015
14
can you elaborate on the first paragraph?
Aug 10th 2015
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      In general, most people arrested for sex crimes are first time offenders
Aug 10th 2015
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           could it POSSIBLY be the reason they ARENT repeat offenders
Aug 10th 2015
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                the point of the sex offender registry was to protect children
Aug 10th 2015
81
At my friend's photoshoot I thought a model was 22/23...she was 16!!!
Aug 09th 2015
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RE: 19y/o is a 'sex offender' - girl he slept with ‘lied about her age...
Aug 09th 2015
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RE: 19y/o is a 'sex offender' - girl he slept with ‘lied about her age...
Aug 09th 2015
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It's ridiculous. She lied about her age.
Aug 09th 2015
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it's basically a strict-liability crime.
Aug 10th 2015
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      Yep, I had a friend who slept with a guy he met in a bar that carded
Aug 10th 2015
75
           I was in every club at 17, 18, 19, 20...
Aug 11th 2015
84
Lemme put this in perspective: Army Private fucks 8th grader
Aug 10th 2015
23
sexually mature person fucked a sexually mature person.
Aug 10th 2015
33
I'm not sure 13-y.o. girls are fully post-pubescent
Aug 10th 2015
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Most are not. It's generally mid puberty.
Aug 10th 2015
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      Yeah, I don't think there are a lot of 13 year olds with hips
Aug 10th 2015
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           spend a month in PHX
Aug 10th 2015
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neither of them are sexually mature person
Aug 10th 2015
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      'sexually mature' = capable of breeding.
Aug 10th 2015
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           i didn't understand your definition of sexually mature
Aug 10th 2015
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                word up.
Aug 10th 2015
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i remember in the 8th grade, there was a girl named Ingrid that looked
Aug 10th 2015
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      Prolly 'cause her name was "Ingrid"
Aug 10th 2015
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           LOL...I *just* looked her up on FB now she looks like a 38 yr old that
Aug 10th 2015
46
Happened to a friend of mine...
Aug 10th 2015
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did she lie about her age? then the same thing didn't happen to your
Aug 10th 2015
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It's messed up but hard to feel some kind of way about
Aug 10th 2015
25
You took it too far.
Aug 10th 2015
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      I'd bet the car, but not the house that I'm right on that.
Aug 10th 2015
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           I've lived in those flyover states...
Aug 10th 2015
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                I root it in the reality that Phd's have been denied the right to vote
Aug 10th 2015
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                     Although related, those are separate issues.
Aug 10th 2015
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                          I don't think it's a zero sum scenario, though we disagree.
Aug 10th 2015
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it happens, slippery slope but maybe they should consider intent
Aug 10th 2015
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No ID, No PP
Aug 10th 2015
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See...no one really challenges me about it, but this is why I think
Aug 10th 2015
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a lot of those age of consent laws have sliding scales
Aug 10th 2015
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      and sometimes those sliding scales are like
Aug 10th 2015
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           those are unfortunate. This was a young man and a middle school kid
Aug 10th 2015
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                a middle school kid that lied about her age.
Aug 10th 2015
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RE: 19y/o is a 'sex offender' - girl he slept with ‘lied about her age...
Aug 10th 2015
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To catch a predator? R. Kelly's case? The internet as a whole?
Aug 10th 2015
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RE: To catch a predator? R. Kelly's case? The internet as a whole?
Aug 10th 2015
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This story was 19/13 those are 6 meaningful ass years
Aug 10th 2015
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RE: This story was 19/13 those are 6 meaningful ass years
Aug 10th 2015
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Ehh...I don't see how girls could just outta nowhere "realize" that
Aug 10th 2015
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actually girls today are still dating older guys...
Aug 10th 2015
78
When i was 22 i took a 17 year old to her prom.
Aug 10th 2015
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At my prom, there were maybe 3 dudes who were out of HS
Aug 10th 2015
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in the 80s-90s it was the norm...i remember vividly because
Aug 10th 2015
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do we know that it's even changed?
Aug 10th 2015
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it still happens in the hood but its not as blatant and flagrant
Aug 10th 2015
70
Its frowned on in mainstream because of R.Kelly and Chris Hanson but sti...
Aug 11th 2015
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I wonder why this is an important story to you
Aug 10th 2015
57
damn.,
Aug 10th 2015
59
THAT DOES IT. Hillary lost my vote
Aug 10th 2015
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there needs to be levels to this sex offender shit...
Aug 10th 2015
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that's always been the argument against it (NSFW)
Aug 10th 2015
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Fucking in public in a park or your car can involve kids
Aug 11th 2015
85
I agree, an 18y/o getting head from a 16y/o should fall into the same...
Aug 11th 2015
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ndibs
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1. "Casual sex has risks for both boys and girls "
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That's one of the risks that a guy faces when he jumps into bed with a young girl he doesn't really know, whether he's 19, 25 or 35. It's a KNOWN and avoidable risk.

  

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3. "Yeah on one hand I think it's fucked up, on the other hand I feel like....."
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deep down he probably suspected she was underage and said fuck it and did it anyway. At 19 I think I could spot a 14 year old.

Having said that as a 20 year-old I did have an "encounter" with young lady I later learned was 16 at the time.

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4. "She was actually 13 at the time "
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http://reason.com/blog/2015/06/16/male-teen-has-consensual-sex-with-female

The whole story is fucked up. Also no smart phone or internet for him is part of his sentence so he can't go to college basically as a Como science major.

  

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5. "Damn, and pretty much all college students have to use the internet..."
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regardless of major, plus most jobs you have to apply online, they may as well locked him up.


>http://reason.com/blog/2015/06/16/male-teen-has-consensual-sex-with-female
>
>The whole story is fucked up. Also no smart phone or internet
>for him is part of his sentence so he can't go to college
>basically as a Como science major.

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10. "yeah i feel like i can spot a 13-14yo too. but reality is he prob was."
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like fuckit and didnt think any problems were gonna come his way

  

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12. "thing is do any of these dating sites allow 17 year olds?"
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I think she would have almost have had to have mentioned she was lying about her age to say she was 17. so red flags should have went up.

  

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13. "but if she told dude she was 17 that would explain her being able"
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to be on the site tho right? not sure im following what ur sayn

>I think she would have almost have had to have mentioned she
>was lying about her age to say she was 17. so red flags
>should have went up.

  

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16. "If she told dude she was 17, she admitted 18 her posted age "
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Sun Aug-09-15 03:09 PM by ndibs

          

Was a lie and admitted she was an age liar.

So that should have been red flag city.

Also if she looked young enough for the convo to come up then that's a red flag too.

She either volunteered hey my age is a lie...

Or he thought she looked young and asked about it and said fuckit.



And no I'm saying all these sites start at age 18+ as the minimum.

  

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22. "Yeah ppl say this but I don't believe it's always true..."
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yeah you can spot a young 14 year old. and depending on their mentality, as soon as they open their mouth you'd have confirmation. it's as simple as her saying she's 18 when she's really 17 and he found out because she referenced high school or something that made him question her age...

but the fact is, I know plenty of 14/15 year olds in BK that look 20/21. I also know 30 year olds who could pass for 18. It's not always that simple. SOme of the kids I mentor look and dress and speak "grown." and yeah i can see why some men would believe a girl who is working, dressing grown, long weaves, is of age. It's not farfetched.

  

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27. "pretty much."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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65. "Yeah but as a college student you can say "
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Nah I'm just not going to do casual hookups with high school girls. I got a whole campus of 18+ yos. No thanks.

  

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76. "yeah well say THAT then but to say "
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"oh i can always tell a person's age" is false. At the same time, I was 18 in my senior year and dated a guy in college (he was a senior when i was junior and it carried over). Do I think he should have stopped talking to me? No. I don't even believe that now. So to me, a 19 year old who could be a freshman messing with a 17 year old isn't terrible.

  

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80. "This thread is about the risk of casual hookups "
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With high schoolers you don't know and why you should say no to them,

Not about ppl who know each other and are of age and dating.

  

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73. "yeah there are definitely some exceptions out there"
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2. "You would think the courts would exercise some discretion and"
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leniency since the girl admitted she lied

If a girl says she's of legal age, what's a person suppose to do? Ask to see her ID for proof? Smh


>Read more:
>http://metro.co.uk/2015/08/07/teen-cant-live-with-his-family-anymore-because-a-girl-he-slept-with-lied-about-her-age-5331850/#ixzz3iKeS5jjl
>
>Teen can’t live with his family anymore because a girl he
>slept with ‘lied about her age’
>Harry Readhead for Metro.co.ukFriday 7 Aug 2015 2:07 pm
>1.1k
>
>
>Zach Anderson is no longer allowed to live at home with his
>family.
>
>He can’t use the internet, take a walk in the park or go
>shopping.
>
>In his words, he’s an ‘outcast from society’.
>
>Why? Because he had sex with a 14-year-old who claimed she was
>17 and is now a registered sex offender.
>
>The 19-year-old, from Indiana, met the girl via a dating app
>called Hot or Not, on which she told him she was over the
>legal age of consent. But Zach was arrested after the pair
>slept together. Then he was convicted. He now finds himself on
>the Elkhart County sex offender register alongside child
>molesters and rapists.
>
>Even the girl’s mother testified in court that she didn’t
>want Zach labelled as a sex offender because ‘he really is
>not.’
>
>In a letter written by the girl to Zach’s family, she said
>she was ‘sorry I didn’t tell you my age. I really don’t
>want you to hate me.
>
>‘It kills me everyday knowing that you are going through
>hell and I’m not. I want to be in trouble and not you.’
>
>But Judge Dennis Wiley was far from sympathetic. Sentencing
>Zach, he said: ‘That seems to be part of our culture now.
>Meet, have sex, sayonara.
>
>‘Totally inappropriate behaviour. There is no excuse for
>this, whatsoever.’
>
>
>
>
>Read more:
>http://metro.co.uk/2015/08/07/teen-cant-live-with-his-family-anymore-because-a-girl-he-slept-with-lied-about-her-age-5331850/#ixzz3iKeS5jjl

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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6. "Unfortunately, it always falls on the guy to get proof."
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>leniency since the girl admitted she lied
>
>If a girl says she's of legal age, what's a person suppose to
>do? Ask to see her ID for proof? Smh
>
>


In situations like this, the guy is going to get the worse end every time. I was always taught if the thought that she may be too young crosses your mind leave her alone.

Girls lie just as much as guys. And both types of lies can get a guy in jail.

  

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7. "It varies by state "
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It's about half and half

There's also a one time waiver for guys who are under 21 in this state as far as being put on the offender registry for situations like this, but if you read the article the prosecutor agreed to it and then went back on the agreement.

  

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8. "I'm not even getting into the law..."
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but as a grown man you have to know better in those situations. Don't even open yourself to the possibility of messing up like that regardless of the law.
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9. "It's on the older person male or female"
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Women get arrested for statutory rape also

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15. "Too bad women get far more lenient sentences if ever convicted."
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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36. "i don't think that's true"
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I do believe women are convicted less because boys are congratulated when they have sex. so you don't have some angry parent pressing charges...

but with the cases of female teachers having sex with students, that is more taboo so the women are just as criminalized in those cases.

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20. "who's responsibility is it if you don't know you're the older person?"
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people lie, if he doesn't know he so much older and has no clue, how is it his responsibility to verify her age?

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Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
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28. "lol right."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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34. "true"
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guess you never really know what you going to get when you have sex with random people. that's just the risk you take... worse things can happen...

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11. "Talk to your sons and make sure they understand the consequences of sex"
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and their responsibilities. Diligence is the adult's responsibility. My guess is he suspected and went forward anyway.

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14. "yet another reason why I'm 100% against the sex offender registry"
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aside from the fact that pretty much no one that has been arrested for a sex crime in the last twenty some odd years that the registry has been around was a registered sex offender and the number of crimes stopped is a statistical zero, you have people on the registry for "crimes" like this where it makes no sense. The number of lives destroyed in this manner does not balance the number of crimes prevented with the registry (essentially zero).

And I can understand dudes dilemma. I used to work at an arcade in a mall in Southfield back inna day when I was 21. Me and the crew were standing out front in the hallway talking shit as usual when these fine as fuck ass chicks with these bangin ass bodies came in. Me and the homie Kimani went over to spit game and the shit was going well, we got names, trying to work on gettin phone numbers, and shit... but something was a lil weird. Maybe it was the giggling, maybe it was something in their voices but I guess Kimani felt it too and asked "how old are y'all?"

14 and 15 years old.

There was no way to tell without them saying it. Nothing about them was 14 and 15 years old. The clothes, the bodies, nothing...

We both told them to beat it, shook our heads, and laughed about just missing catching cases over them chicks. Every now and then at least one of the crew that was there brings it up. We joked about it back then, but if either or both of us would have ended up banging either of them chicks jail time could have been the result.

  

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29. "can you elaborate on the first paragraph?"
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are you saying that (virtually) no one who is on the registry has committed a repeat offense? Or that having a registry to track people has prevented zero of their repeat offenses?

*Jews you*

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68. "In general, most people arrested for sex crimes are first time offenders"
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>are you saying that (virtually) no one who is on the registry
>has committed a repeat offense? Or that having a registry to
>track people has prevented zero of their repeat offenses?

meaning that the registry wouldn't have helped in any way to stop them. IIRC, over 90% of sex crimes against children were committed by someone they knew and that's not limited to adults since over a third of registered offenders convicted of rape/molestation of a child were *children* themselves (source: 2010 Crimes Against Children Research Center at the University of New Hampshire study commissioned by US Justice Dept). In this way the registry wouldn't have prevented anything.

The number of repeat offenders is quite small, quite negligible. I'll look for the paper I read about it where the whole shit was broken down.

But... You have to remember that the majority of people on the registry aren't on there for rape or molestation of a child and those people pose no threat to a child. Things like public urination can get you on the sex offender registry in 13 states and indecent exposure can get you on it in pretty much every state, this includes shit like mooning, streaking, or anything like that. Also, sexting between teenagers is still something that can get you on there (typically charged as possession/manufacture/distribution of child pornography).

Give me a bit to pull together my sources, I've got a lot going on right now and I'll get it together at some point.



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77. "could it POSSIBLY be the reason they ARENT repeat offenders"
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is because of the registry? That ppl know who they are and are more careful...that because the offender knows that everyone knows he's on the list, they fall back because they know if ANYTHING happens around them everyone will look at them? Could it possibly be that?

I can't see why anyone that's not a sex offender would be against the list. I do agree that it needs to be amended and that people's names should come off the list after a certain period of time depending on the actions. But to completely get rid of it is a bit much...

  

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81. "the point of the sex offender registry was to protect children"
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In that respect it has completely and utterly failed.

It has not stopped anyone.
Teachers, both male and female, still fuck their students.
kids are still being kidnapped, raped, and killed
that creepy uncle/aunt is still fiddling with their nieces/nephews.

The shit is a failure. The only thing it has managed to do is destroy the lives of people that are on the registry where their crime has absolutely nothing to do with children.

>is because of the registry? That ppl know who they are and
>are more careful...that because the offender knows that
>everyone knows he's on the list, they fall back because they
>know if ANYTHING happens around them everyone will look at
>them? Could it possibly be that?

No, and there are enough studies out there to back that up. If the person was a true criminal sexual deviant, registration simply won't stop them.

>
>I can't see why anyone that's not a sex offender would be
>against the list.

yes, because that's always the case... right?

Maybe ask this chick: http://www.salon.com/2015/03/26/stop_the_sex_offender_registry_panic_a_lot_of_those_dots_on_the_map_would_never_hurt_your_kids/

and, believe it or not, there's a fairly large movement dedicated towards either significant changes

>I do agree that it needs to be amended and
>that people's names should come off the list after a certain
>period of time depending on the actions. But to completely get
>rid of it is a bit much...

I'm against it because I predicted at it's inception that it wouldn't work because it doesn't take into account the fact that most child molesters are acquaintances and when stories started popping up (almost immediately) about 18 year olds going to prison and facing lifetime registration because he had sex with his 16 year old girlfriend I knew the shit was dead wrong. Here we are over two decades later and the shit hasn't changed... in fact it's likely worse.

In that way it's like the failed "war on drugs"; a knee-jerk reaction to an issue that failed miserably in all aspects.

It's time to do something different.


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17. "At my friend's photoshoot I thought a model was 22/23...she was 16!!!"
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AND HER COUSIN
I felt soooo bad
Some of these youngings be on them hormones
youngest I could have suspected this girl to be would be 19/20

she didn't talk much but I thought she was "stuck up"

  

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18. "RE: 19y/o is a 'sex offender' - girl he slept with ‘lied about her age..."
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Maybe they're getting him for all of the ones they didn't get.

Still tho...19 --> 13? I want to believe dude could've known. In my mind I think I can draw a line and 16 and say older, younger, or push and have a decent percentage of accuracy. But hell...maybe not at 19!

And a brother mackin on online or via an app nowadays prolly would be too busy thinking 'I wonder if she's real and down' to be worried about 'is she totally not at least 17. Unless a dude has a history of cradle-robbing, logic should prevail, he should eat some degree of legality as a lesson (jail, probation, 'stay away from them young chick, mane' counseling), and then he should be able to get back to life as long as he doesn't rub elbows or anything else with younger chicks ever again.

Otherwise, again...it reeks of throwing the book at a dude who couldn't move to 'payback' other separate cases where the dude in question could dodge whatever the book was throwing (Robert Sylvester for instance).

>Read more:
>http://metro.co.uk/2015/08/07/teen-cant-live-with-his-family-anymore-because-a-girl-he-slept-with-lied-about-her-age-5331850/#ixzz3iKeS5jjl
>
>Teen can’t live with his family anymore because a girl he
>slept with ‘lied about her age’
>Harry Readhead for Metro.co.ukFriday 7 Aug 2015 2:07 pm
>1.1k
>
>
>Zach Anderson is no longer allowed to live at home with his
>family.
>
>He can’t use the internet, take a walk in the park or go
>shopping.
>
>In his words, he’s an ‘outcast from society’.
>
>Why? Because he had sex with a 14-year-old who claimed she was
>17 and is now a registered sex offender.
>
>The 19-year-old, from Indiana, met the girl via a dating app
>called Hot or Not, on which she told him she was over the
>legal age of consent. But Zach was arrested after the pair
>slept together. Then he was convicted. He now finds himself on
>the Elkhart County sex offender register alongside child
>molesters and rapists.
>
>Even the girl’s mother testified in court that she didn’t
>want Zach labelled as a sex offender because ‘he really is
>not.’
>
>In a letter written by the girl to Zach’s family, she said
>she was ‘sorry I didn’t tell you my age. I really don’t
>want you to hate me.
>
>‘It kills me everyday knowing that you are going through
>hell and I’m not. I want to be in trouble and not you.’
>
>But Judge Dennis Wiley was far from sympathetic. Sentencing
>Zach, he said: ‘That seems to be part of our culture now.
>Meet, have sex, sayonara.
>
>‘Totally inappropriate behaviour. There is no excuse for
>this, whatsoever.’
>
>
>
>
>Read more:
>http://metro.co.uk/2015/08/07/teen-cant-live-with-his-family-anymore-because-a-girl-he-slept-with-lied-about-her-age-5331850/#ixzz3iKeS5jjl

  

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19. "RE: 19y/o is a 'sex offender' - girl he slept with ‘lied about her age..."
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>Maybe they're getting him for all of the ones they didn't
>get.
>
>Still tho...19 --> 13? I want to believe dude could've known.
>In my mind I think I can draw a line and 16 and say older,
>younger, or push and have a decent percentage of accuracy. But
>hell...maybe not at 19!

These days it's hard as fuck to tell, especially since little girls are now being encouraged to dress like grown ass women, complete with makeup and everything.

My 16 year old is regularly mistaken for being in her 20's and that's without the skimpy clothes and goo gobs of makeup on.

My 12 year old is always mistaken for being in high school, no less than 16-17.

My 16 year old has a (white) friend the same age that recently cut her hair short. The wife and I genuinely thought she was some 30 year old sister we hadn't met.


>
>And a brother mackin on online or via an app nowadays prolly
>would be too busy thinking 'I wonder if she's real and down'
>to be worried about 'is she totally not at least 17. Unless a
>dude has a history of cradle-robbing, logic should prevail, he
>should eat some degree of legality as a lesson (jail,
>probation, 'stay away from them young chick, mane'
>counseling), and then he should be able to get back to life as
>long as he doesn't rub elbows or anything else with younger
>chicks ever again.

Nah, she lied. Dude shouldn't have to resort to checking ID's, asking for a birth certificate and checkin passports and shit before he fucks. He doesn't need jail time or probation. If he genuinely believed that she was of legal age because of her lie then he should get off the hook.


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Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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21. "It's ridiculous. She lied about her age."
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I th ink they'll get it overturn.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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32. "it's basically a strict-liability crime."
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the fact that she lied doesn't absolve him. it SHOULD but doesn't.

fuck you.

  

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75. "Yep, I had a friend who slept with a guy he met in a bar that carded"
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So my friend knew that, in order to be there, the guy had to have proved he was 21.

Turned out he was 17.

My friend was prosecuted, convicted, and disowned by his family. His father in particular didn't know that he was gay until this arrest.

His father refused him any money and his mother was on a tight leash so she couldn't give him cash, so she would sneak out and buy him goods. Like Gucci shoes. He died of AIDS in '89 in a rent-controlled single in Santa Monica surrounded by a pile of Gucci shoes. He was so ashamed of his living space that very few of us were allowed to visit.

Anyway, how's that for strict liability? The kid didn't just lie, he did everything possible to convince people of his lie, and his family was wholeheartedly in favor of the prosecution.



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84. "I was in every club at 17, 18, 19, 20..."
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I mean, that's a sad story...

But guys stayed asking me my age and backing away like awwww heeeellll no until I was 20-21.

So I still feel people have the responsibility to ask.

  

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23. "Lemme put this in perspective: Army Private fucks 8th grader"
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That's what happened here, age-wise.

  

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33. "sexually mature person fucked a sexually mature person."
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that's what happened here, biologically.

fuck you.

  

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35. "I'm not sure 13-y.o. girls are fully post-pubescent"
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if we're using the strictest definition of sexually-mature, meaning "can reproduce", then I'll give you that.

  

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69. "Most are not. It's generally mid puberty. "
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>if we're using the strictest definition of sexually-mature,
>meaning "can reproduce", then I'll give you that.

  

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71. "Yeah, I don't think there are a lot of 13 year olds with hips"
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74. "spend a month in PHX"
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you'll change your mind quick on that.
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37. "neither of them are sexually mature person"
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but the 19 year old is considered an adult that can make decisions for himself...

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40. "'sexually mature' = capable of breeding."
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granted, i made a 2 assumptions here. you are too smart to argue that a 19 y.o. male is not typically capable of breeding. and you understand that by age 13 most females are also capable of breeding. unless you have specific facts to rebut my assumption i stand by what i said.

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41. "i didn't understand your definition of sexually mature"
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i didn't know that was the known definition of "sexually mature"

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47. "word up."
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fuck you.

  

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44. "i remember in the 8th grade, there was a girl named Ingrid that looked"
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like she was someone's mother.

Not old but just her ways and actions seemed much more mature than the rest of us. The vision of her has stuck with me for 25+ years. She even had a heavier more adult voice than the rest of the girl.

I knew she was 14 (because we'd been in school together since the 6th grade) but to the outside world she could've easily passed for 24-25. And I'm not saying that in a manner of she was "fast" or things like that--she just could easily be mistaken for an adult.




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45. "Prolly 'cause her name was "Ingrid""
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46. "LOL...I *just* looked her up on FB now she looks like a 38 yr old that"
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could pass for 24.



Which means she's been lookin' 24 for the past 24 years.

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He was a senior in high school...she was like a freshman or sophomore got caught giving him head in her house...the father pressed charges.


he was black, she was white. he was 18, she was 15 or 16.

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26. "did she lie about her age? then the same thing didn't happen to your "
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friend.

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25. "It's messed up but hard to feel some kind of way about "
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when cats are getting gunned down in the streets for no justifiable reason.

A white sex offender still has a better chance of getting a job than a black Phd with a clean record.

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31. "You took it too far. "
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>A white sex offender still has a better chance of getting a
>job than a black Phd with a clean record.

This isn't true at all, unless said black PhD has no clue how to market themselves.

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Especially in flyover states.

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42. "I've lived in those flyover states..."
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and I've been gainfully employed with a bachelors. I get your point and agree that it can still be easier for a white person with a felony, or other restriction that typically renders a person of color unhireable, to find a job. When speaking about someone with a bachelors or lower, I can definitely see it. However, it's hyperbolic as hell to say that applies to a black person with a PhD. Even to say a black person with a masters isn't as employable as a white person on the sex offender registry or a felon is just not rooted in reality.

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43. "I root it in the reality that Phd's have been denied the right to vote"
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even though they were well beyond qualified and that may stretch as far as the Bush Gore election.

Do you really believe white supremacy functions on rational thinking to the extent that those who practice it will draw a line at certain racist behaviors?

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48. "Although related, those are separate issues. "
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>Do you really believe white supremacy functions on rational
>thinking to the extent that those who practice it will draw a
>line at certain racist behaviors?

I'm well of how white supremacy functions, regarding hiring practices. I've also had to deal with the added layer of homophobia in industries dominated by straight men. Yet, I've been able to circumvent that in states that notoriously bad for both black and gay people, much less the combination. I'm not arguing that education equalizes everything. I know that if it's between me and a white person with the same qualifications or even slightly inferior to mine, I'm losing. However, if it's between me and a felon or sex offender, I'm pretty confident that I'll come out on top.

You have a point regarding inequality in hiring practices as a result of white supremacy, but you've taken the premise beyond the scope of reality.

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67. " I don't think it's a zero sum scenario, though we disagree."
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30. "it happens, slippery slope but maybe they should consider intent"
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it happened to me when i was 19/20
chick had an adult relative going along with it and everything. it was pretty elaborate really. involved a fake work uniform and everything
unless you're running along checking ID it's not real way to avoid this risk.
there are some real weirdo's out here and some of these girls have all kinds of emotional/esteem issues

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49. "See...no one really challenges me about it, but this is why I think"
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a lot of the "age of consent" laws are retarded, especially seeing that they're so much different in every single state. Makes zero sense to me that you can just hop across a state line and get down with a 15 year old in one state, while they have to be 17-18 in the next state.

And that title of "rapist" stays on you FOREEEEEEEEEEVER...regardless of the scenario. If you're two weeks older than her, and in a state where she can't be under whatever age, and you get caught up for it...life is over. Shit makes no sense to me, even though I think it was created with good intentions

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50. "a lot of those age of consent laws have sliding scales"
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like a 16 yo, can consent to have sex with a peer, but not an adult.

  

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56. "and sometimes those sliding scales are like"
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she's fair game -> she's illegal -> she's fair game again.

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62. "those are unfortunate. This was a young man and a middle school kid"
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I have zero sympathy in this case.

  

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72. "a middle school kid that lied about her age."
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51. "RE: 19y/o is a 'sex offender' - girl he slept with ‘lied about her age..."
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So...

most ya'll close in age to me.. mid 30s whatever....

In my HS.. most fine ass girls I knew were dating like 20+ yr old dudes. There were some 8th graders fucking with like 17,18 yr olds but not a lot.

This was "normal"... enough that no one batted an eye at it in any way shape or form.

so what's changed from err 93-97 to now? Is it just that now that the law is top of mind so it gets enforced more?

I don't remember all these cases in the 90s ionno

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52. "To catch a predator? R. Kelly's case? The internet as a whole?"
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54. "RE: To catch a predator? R. Kelly's case? The internet as a whole?"
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Yea... I guess the "culture" just shifted...

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53. "This story was 19/13 those are 6 meaningful ass years"
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College vs middle school, man. I can't give that a pass.


But so answer your other question, I think it's less common for a number of reasons. I think girls today realize that twenty-somethings who want to date hs kids are losers, and it's not cool anymore.

Also social media be snitching

  

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55. "RE: This story was 19/13 those are 6 meaningful ass years"
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>College vs middle school, man. I can't give that a pass.
>
>

I wasn't saying it needed a pass... Just saying that there was a time 15-20 yrs ago shit was commonplace and no one really cared

>But so answer your other question, I think it's less common
>for a number of reasons. I think girls today realize that
>twenty-somethings who want to date hs kids are losers, and
>it's not cool anymore.
>
>Also social media be snitching

yea.. for sure...

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63. "Ehh...I don't see how girls could just outta nowhere "realize" that"
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older guys are losers....I doubt it's all that simple.

I'm not around any young girls, so I have no idea how their culture is. Like, I see how these young dudes dress, how their haircuts look, all that, and that the girls their age like that...and I don't know if these same girls see guys my age (30) and say "oh, he just looks old/played out/not cool" in comparison to the 90's when a 30 year old may have looked just as "cool" as guys their age, except with more money and a nicer car. I really can't call it.

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78. "actually girls today are still dating older guys..."
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they are just smarter about it.

  

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58. "When i was 22 i took a 17 year old to her prom."
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I was like one of the youngest dudes in the limo. One of these fellas had to be like 30. The shorty had a grown latina with 3 kids body tho....

I was tryna scheme a dance with her the whole night smh.

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60. "At my prom, there were maybe 3 dudes who were out of HS"
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one was a college freshman who had been dating her since he was a HS soph and she was a freshman. We definitely talked shit about those other two dudes. One was a sailor in uniform. We had all kinds of jokes.

  

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61. "in the 80s-90s it was the norm...i remember vividly because"
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I hated (and still feel some kinda way) about niggas born prior to '74

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66. "do we know that it's even changed?"
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i don't know cause i don't hang around high school let outs anymore
but i imagine it's still the same
off top it has to be reported for it to be a crime, the increase of cases that we know about is probably related to ppl having more visibility to news across the country

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70. "it still happens in the hood but its not as blatant and flagrant"
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as back in the day



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83. "Its frowned on in mainstream because of R.Kelly and Chris Hanson but sti..."
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goes down in the hood and in rural areas too

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57. "I wonder why this is an important story to you"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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59. "damn.,"
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64. "THAT DOES IT. Hillary lost my vote "
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79. "there needs to be levels to this sex offender shit..."
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how is he registering as the same thing that child molesters and actual rapists are? he's not a predator. he's not a risk to children playing in playgrounds or even the internet. even if you feel he did something wrong, you can't lump him and people like him in with the other sick bastards. it's just not the same, anybody with half a brain can see that.

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82. "that's always been the argument against it (NSFW)"
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>how is he registering as the same thing that child molesters
>and actual rapists are? he's not a predator. he's not a risk
>to children playing in playgrounds or even the internet. even
>if you feel he did something wrong, you can't lump him and
>people like him in with the other sick bastards. it's just not
>the same, anybody with half a brain can see that.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SZpwaTFc72U/UaY4aX2i5ZI/AAAAAAAAKV0/hkzfDiuANQk/s1600/flashing+vegas+wife.jpg

^^^ see that chick??? Had Las Vegas Metro PD caught her in the act, she would be on the sex offender registry (indecent exposure).

'member the time you were cruising on the strip drinking with your boys and had to take a piss? You know, the time you went behind that dumpster? Yeah, had you been caught doing that you would be on the registry in 25% of the states.

Something that the vast majority of OKP's are guilty of: fucking in your car. You're guilty of open or gross lewdness, indecent ecposure, and prolly some other shit... and had any of us been caught doing it we would be registered sex offenders.

None of that shit involved children which the registry had been designed to protect.

I seem to remember one OKP facing indecent exposure charges and registration due to his zipper being down and his shirt being pulled through it while walking in to office late or something. Any of y'all remember that? What ever happened with dude?

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85. "Fucking in public in a park or your car can involve kids "
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If they see it.

And yeah sex is natural beautiful etc until you see a 4 year old little girl jumping a chair or a 6 year old in appropriately touching a classmate bc they're imitating behaviors they saw.

  

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86. "I agree, an 18y/o getting head from a 16y/o should fall into the same..."
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category as a Michael Devlin

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