"the post-potter post: what are you reading next?" Tue Jul-24-07 09:04 PM by Frank Longo
having blazed through the deathly hallows in about 9hrs, i am now left with a feeling of emptiness. i find myself searching for something to help fill the void. while there can be no true substitute for harry potter, there has to be something out there to help with the post-potter withdrawl.
so what are folks who've finished deathly hallows reading next?
2. "I'm actually re-doing my dissertation from my HipHop Studies class." In response to Reply # 0
My old professor wants me to make some inprovements on it so he can present it to his new classes this fall.
So I will be re-visiting The Hip Hop Generation Droppin' Science Holla if Ya Hear Me The Black Panther Party:Revisited A Panther is a Black Cat and a few others...
60. "really what class?" In response to Reply # 10
droppin' science IS dated, I've heard of check the technique' haven't read it yet though. I may drop the passages I used droppin' science as a reference, it wasn't that many.
a few more books i used: Bum Rush the Page:a def poetry jam, and Black Noise. Soul on Ice, Women Culture, Politics(Angela Davis)
It was on how the Black Power Movement spawned Conscious Rap. I gotta upgrade my books though...
61. "i teach an af am studies course on hiphop culture" In response to Reply # 60
>droppin' science IS dated, I've heard of check the technique' >haven't read it yet though. I may drop the passages I used >droppin' science as a reference, it wasn't that many.
i've been using droppin' science for years now and last fall i re-read some of the essays and was just like...eh. this is soooooo outdated. there isn't really anything (that i know of) contemporary that is comparable though. there's the book "and it don't stop" i suppose, but it's not quite comparable.
>a few more books i used: Bum Rush the Page:a def poetry jam, >and Black Noise. Soul on Ice, Women Culture, Politics(Angela >Davis)
i used to use black noise in class, but my students unanimously agreed that they hated that book. go figure. they said rose was trying to hard to be intellectual.
>It was on how the Black Power Movement spawned Conscious Rap. >I gotta upgrade my books though...
that sounds very interesting and very much in line with a part of my course. i would love to read it some time if you don't mind sharing.
64. "wouldn't mind sharing at all...I hated Black Noise too!!!" In response to Reply # 61
But my teacher INSISTED on using it, even though we shot down a LOT of what she was saying in class..Even though she's an 'insider' it didn't come off like she lived or was in the least a Fan of the culture.
Give me until next week with the sample though, I had to stop for a few days to take this bankers class and I.need.money(my reimbursement)!
7. "why does the intended audience matter?" In response to Reply # 4 Tue Jul-24-07 11:50 AM by Damali
The reader's enjoyment is more important than who the book is written FOR. to suggest otherwise is just pure snobbisness. If you found out your favorite book was only written for the purpose of entertaining men, would that make you enjoy it any less?
8. "Damali, come on, a book written for children is by its nature" In response to Reply # 7
more simplistic and less intellectually challenging than a book written for adults. If you think that's an elitist viewpoint, then hurrah for you, you can go back and read all the Dr. Seuss books and extract from them the complex and deeper meaning of hop on pop.
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It is painful in the extreme to live with questions rather than with answers, but that is the only honorable intellectual course. (c) Norman Mailer
63. "RE: Damali, come on, a book written for children is by its nature" In response to Reply # 8
>more simplistic and less intellectually challenging than a >book written for adults.
when i read Harry Potter I am not looking to be intellectually challenged. I'm looking to be entertained. Is that ok? Why does it offend your sensibilities?
If you think that's an elitist >viewpoint, then hurrah for you, you can go back and read all >the Dr. Seuss books and extract from them the complex and >deeper meaning of hop on pop.
you're missing the point. If you are saying you only read books that have deeper and complex meaning and you're poo-pooing on those of us who sometimes read for entertainment, that IS elitist. you're entitled to be, of course, but a spade is still a spade.
9. "i didn't ask you all that." In response to Reply # 4
i was asking for suggestions to fill the void left for those who are fans of the harry potter series. if you yourself are not a fan, i am sad for you, but so be it. personally, as an english teacher, an avid reader and a person who has always loved a good story, i find harry potter to be engaging and uplifting in a way that reminds me of the imagination and joy that so freely flows from children and that so often gets stifled by conforming to our society's narrow definition of what it means to be "a grown up." if harry potter is just intended for children, someone might want to inform the hundreds of thousands of adults who have been reading these books from the beginning (or maybe not - we're better off in a world where adults haven't lost their sense of imagination and fantasy). if harry potter is not for adults, then just call me peter pan.
12. "why are you all replying to ME?" In response to Reply # 9
You got some beef with ME that you don't share with the OTHERS in this thread who posted exactly the same thing?
Unity, face facts, all you ever had to do was search "books" or "reading" and you would have found a number of threads in which books are discussed and recommended.
Maybe this needs to be deleted on account of the fact that it's the thousandth Harry Potter thread and the millionth book thread.
16. "there have been as many threads referencing Chabon" In response to Reply # 12
now, personally, i read Harry and quickly realized that i wasn't caught up in the apparent ecstasy tsunami of the rest of the fanbase following book 7 and moved on as soon as i realized i couldn't discuss it like other literature, but i think it's a perfectly reasonable topic, either
1) given someone who likes harry potter books, what might be a reasonable suggestion of a next read.
2) i read harry potter, this is what i'm reading.
i've been noticing a lot of people upset in ptp cause folks are reading this or watching that and regulars seem to be randomly deciding it's not worth their scroll space. it doesn't seem that serious.
more than half the posts about potter are about the movies.
chabon's been in every what are we reading now post. (no comment on his successes selling/translating his works for the screen).
and it's been more or less the same thing in every post. a good number of us have read it, but for the most part it's a private experience that we're trying to get people clicking with, but we don't really need to discuss it to enjoy the prose. the biggest (and discussed in multiple thread) topic is how we all hate "the plot against america".
i mean look at that poetry post. i absolutely adore poetry, but as far as i can tell, i only share about 5% of my experience with people here, and that's not very likely to change. my top match on librarything is very clearly another political science major from my college a year above me who shared some seminars (i don't know him very well, but i went to a small school and i'm pretty sure), and that's how a lot of us go through our literary lives.
harry potter keeps getting posts here because people enjoy discussing it. can't wait to reference it. want to know what other people think. CARE ABOUT THE CHARACTERS. millions of people across a wide variety of demographics. maybe there's something there for us to think about.
28. "I repeat, there is only one thread devoted to Chabon." In response to Reply # 25
and there are many many threads devoted to Harry Potter. I don't see the movies, either, but I presume that all of you who adore the books are in those threads as well.
What about the anchored thread on the book, that's not satisfactory for you all?
37. "janey, i'm not even in those threads, i'm just trying to point out" In response to Reply # 28
that the comic readers and harry potter lovers and wire folks WANT to share opinions about the the things that they're enjoying, and are blessed with a serial format and a wide audience that helps make it possible.
if we want to discuss pulitzers on PTP it's gonna take some book-club level work. personally, i'd love to, although i know that i'd need a lot of help framing my responses in a way that would actually end up getting replies and a push to reply to other people.
there's no reason to be mad at the potter crowd and diss dr. seuss.
32. "to save others from the apparent difficulty of doing a search, yes" In response to Reply # 29 Tue Jul-24-07 02:17 PM by janey
I think my point is well taken if one merely glances at the front page.
oh fuck off @ your edit
whatever, zootown, you want to accuse me of being IMMATURE for promoting threads? Dude you're the one who DELETES anything that reeks of duplication. Whatever.
35. "Janey, you know good and damn well all those posts aren't related" In response to Reply # 32 Tue Jul-24-07 02:19 PM by ZooTown74
Seriously? Stop it ______________________________________________________________________ Ice Cube tried to take over the station His ass is in jail RIGHT NOW...
43. "Yeah, you're not looking too hot right now" In response to Reply # 39 Tue Jul-24-07 02:23 PM by ZooTown74
And now you're playing semantic games
I'ma ask you again to stop
We get it, you don't like Harry Potter books
Please move on to another topic ______________________________________________________________________ Ice Cube tried to take over the station His ass is in jail RIGHT NOW...
JungleSouljah Member since Sep 24th 2002 14987 posts
Tue Jul-24-07 02:24 PM
46. "It's quite elementary really" In response to Reply # 39
Thread #1 was for crazy shit that happened while you were getting your copy. Or how angry you were that you didn't have a copy. Or how the book was ruining your life.
Thread #2 is the discussion thread because you can't drop spoilers in the "I just picked it up" thread.
Thread #3 (this thread) is for what to do book-wise after having finished Harry Potter. It's not really applicable to post #1 or #2, especially with the mad speculation happening in post #2.
I don't know about a 4th thread. I'm angry that I can't see it and that I'm not posting in it.
And more *hugs* for you. Remember: hugs... not drugs.
22. "actually, it was intended for you and" In response to Reply # 12
generally for anyone who was co-signing. i could copy and paste and re-post in another place in this thread if it would make you feel more comfortable though.
regardless of it's placement, my response was in part directed at you. there is however, no "beef".
and no, i could not have searched the boards for another post that was specifically asking for books for people who are fans of, and have just finished reading the last harry potter book. i do not have a shortage of books to read in the general sense. i am looking for some specific suggestions from some specific people.
hopefully, we can get off the subject of whether or not people think "adults" are the intended audience for harry potter and move on to a discussion amongst harry potter fans of what we might like to read now.
perhaps then, what should be deleted are all the replies that are not on the subject of the original post?
27. "what's interesting, invisiblist, is your passion for Rowling & HP" In response to Reply # 24
I did a quick search for threads about Harry Potter, and I saw that you flooded a thread by UncleClimax asking about the ten best novelists currently active, by replying to everyone saying that Rowling and Harry Potter were better than anything else suggested.
I'm glad you said it. I'm scared of sounding like a book snob (a title I'd have trouble defending since I haven't been reading much the last couple of years).
18. "I was just fucking around" In response to Reply # 14
The intended irony is that the last "book" I read took 5 minutes to complete and was full of drawings of men in tights punching each other in the face. But I guess I shouldn't have assumed everybody here knew my reading habits.
it'll be ok. give it another week or so and everyone will have read harry and realized there's not much else to discuss except for the minor loose ends and the gaps. which is just speculation anyway.
20. "nah, it's clearly a children's book that just happened to click" In response to Reply # 14
with an author and adults that were wanted to get in deep with the characters for a few thousand pages.
there's nothing wrong with loving something like that, but it is what it is. on one level, it's a mistake to disregard it's broad messages and little joys just because it's aimed for children, but, all the same, no one should be thinking TOO DEEPLY on the significance of han shooting first or hedwig getting got.
JungleSouljah Member since Sep 24th 2002 14987 posts
Tue Jul-24-07 02:16 PM
33. "Who's talking about the significance?" In response to Reply # 20
Hedwig getting got just completed the raping of Harry's "protectors". Especially since she was never gonna kill off any of Harry's close friends Ron, Hermoine, Ginny, Neville, or Luna.
But honestly I think they dropped Hedwig because she was gonna weigh them down. It's bad enough she had to invent the Mary Poppins carpetbag so that they could carry all of that stuff with them as it is. And I think putting a live animal in the carpetbag would have been disaster.
48. "That's it, I'm locking this." In response to Reply # 0 Tue Jul-24-07 02:29 PM by ZooTown74
unity and others, please move your discussion to the anchored post
And anyone who doesn't like Harry Potter-related discussion is strongly encouraged to stay out of said posts
It's really not that fucking hard ______________________________________________________________________ Ice Cube tried to take over the station His ass is in jail RIGHT NOW...
59. "I made it to book 7 or 8" In response to Reply # 58
at which point it seemed to take a serious loss in momentum as far as my interest was concerned... and the books were long, and they just keep coming...
GriftyMcgrift Member since May 22nd 2002 20414 posts
Wed Jul-25-07 04:53 PM
65. "they get involved and a little drawn out" In response to Reply # 59
but i was so hooked by then it was too late.
i would suggest trying the remaining books if you liked the series because some of the later ones answer alot of questions and well the last book comes out next year *hopefully*
its currently on its 11th book and its no joke. the 12th and supposedly last one is due out the end of next year but Jordan has some crazy blood disease that could seriously threaten his life.
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