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"Ze Official Dark Knight AWWW SHIT Post"


  

          

yeah, the other joint is 300 replies deep. Time for the real one.

MAKE IT HAPPEN. I'm going at 6am tomorrow morning at the IMAX, then off to work.

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I'm going tonight at 3:30am.
Jul 17th 2008
1
that show is sold out here. WTF? haha
Jul 17th 2008
6
Gonna be my first movie this summer
Jul 17th 2008
2
i saw it couple days ago @ imax. fucking incredible.
Jul 17th 2008
3
RE: i saw it couple days ago @ imax. fucking incredible.
Jul 17th 2008
24
Going tonight at midnight. Can't wait.
Jul 17th 2008
4
midnight show awatching, god pls let the audience be good too.
Jul 17th 2008
5
The real? the OG was made exactly a year before the movie
Jul 17th 2008
7
i avoided the hell out of the other topic.
Jul 17th 2008
8
Heard theres no Katie Holmes
Jul 17th 2008
9
and that's a damn good thing. Maggie is waaay better.
Jul 18th 2008
126
My Lady just told me she wants to see it now
Jul 17th 2008
10
Don't worry bro...
Jul 17th 2008
15
If you can, GO SEE THIS IN IMAX
Jul 17th 2008
11
HBO series.
Jul 17th 2008
13
      Damn good idea.
Jul 18th 2008
116
Top Notch Grade A Movie.
Jul 17th 2008
12
Fuck you Memphis...no around the clock showings
Jul 17th 2008
14
that shit was so gangster
Jul 18th 2008
32
that shit was the fuckin' best!
Jul 18th 2008
136
midnight checkin, my little brother is painting his face as Joker
Jul 17th 2008
16
i hope ur brother gets beat up
Jul 17th 2008
25
Seattle's Boeing Imax has tickets available for 7/18
Jul 17th 2008
17
i'm there tomorrow morning at 9
Jul 17th 2008
22
      I got tickets for San Francisco on Saturday
Jul 18th 2008
36
           Saw it down here in Maui last nite. Gotta see it on IMAX ASAP tho
Jul 18th 2008
75
                Kaahumanu, Kukui or Front Street?
Jul 18th 2008
95
                     Kaahumanu. Kind of a shitty theater but I couldn't wait.
Jul 21st 2008
477
Going at midnight.
Jul 17th 2008
18
And so am I
Jul 17th 2008
20
seein it in IMAX... 10am Saturday morning....
Jul 17th 2008
19
Peeping on Saturday, and if it's def, next week again in IMAX
Jul 17th 2008
21
*gets excited like a girl going to a Chris Brown concert*
Jul 17th 2008
23
9AM Tix, sunday @ the franklin institute in philly
Jul 17th 2008
26
i got my tickets for 12:01am
Jul 17th 2008
27
I'm SOOOOOOOOOOO Hype. Hope we get tickets though.
Jul 17th 2008
28
today (friday) 10:20pm IMAX king of prussia, pa
Jul 18th 2008
29
If your going to the IMAX in KOP.....
Jul 18th 2008
65
      we were about 60-64 in line
Jul 19th 2008
175
PLEASE don't make another one
Jul 18th 2008
30
RE: PLEASE don't make another one
Jul 18th 2008
34
No, if done right they can pull one more off
Jul 18th 2008
114
      Mad Hatter, Ventriloquist, Killer Croc,
Jul 19th 2008
273
      the riddler?
Jul 20th 2008
382
Man, THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE!(c)Katt Williams(spoilers)
Jul 18th 2008
31
Classic cinema.
Jul 18th 2008
33
Jesus fucking christ!
Jul 18th 2008
35
Oh, and,
Jul 18th 2008
37
      Heath Stole the got damn show!
Jul 18th 2008
38
           Heath stole the got damn character!
Jul 18th 2008
39
                agreed
Jul 18th 2008
42
just got back from the midnight showing....dope flick.
Jul 18th 2008
40
RE: Ze Official Dark Knight AWWW SHIT Post
Jul 18th 2008
41
i think i maybe hyped it up a little too much....*spoilers*
Jul 18th 2008
43
one question *spoiler*
Jul 18th 2008
44
RE: one question *spoiler*
Jul 18th 2008
45
thanks for the clarification.
Jul 18th 2008
48
RE: one question *spoiler*
Jul 18th 2008
92
You may be right.
Jul 18th 2008
145
RE: one answer *spoiler*
Jul 20th 2008
401
RE: one question *spoiler*
Jul 21st 2008
453
theres no joker origin
Jul 18th 2008
46
RE: i think i maybe hyped it up a little too much....*spoilers*
Jul 18th 2008
151
just got back
Jul 18th 2008
47
Initial reactions: Heath Ledger IS this movie.
Jul 18th 2008
49
In WHAT way is X-Men 2 seeing this film?
Jul 18th 2008
51
It's the difference between flawless and not flawless.
Jul 18th 2008
55
I do agree that he needs a lozenge
Jul 18th 2008
60
I thought it was fine. How else could he have done it?
Jul 18th 2008
138
i have a hard time agreeing with your "flawless" viewpoint
Jul 18th 2008
104
You're entitled to your opinion
Jul 18th 2008
117
I disagree with your disagreement. X2 only shoots for an 80??
Jul 18th 2008
118
      Longo, your X2 love is as irrational and deep as my BB/TDK love
Jul 18th 2008
122
      I'm willing to debate this. Where are the flaws in X2?
Jul 18th 2008
124
           RE: I'm willing to debate this. Where are the flaws in X2?
Jul 21st 2008
431
      RE: I disagree with your disagreement. X2 only shoots for an 80??
Jul 18th 2008
141
      1st scene of TDK >>> 1st scene of X2
Jul 18th 2008
152
           Nope. It was definitely great... but not as great.
Jul 19th 2008
202
smh... you on that maxxx/r. kelly type shit with X2, fam
Jul 18th 2008
137
X2? Really?
Jul 19th 2008
324
he enjoys his irrational attachment to X2. let him have his fun
Jul 21st 2008
428
only con I agree with is the running time.
Jul 18th 2008
67
and you forgot to give Oldman his props.
Jul 18th 2008
68
True. Oldman has been fantastic in both of the flicks.
Jul 18th 2008
70
^^^^ was wrong
Jul 18th 2008
130
leave hong kong, axe the
Jul 19th 2008
177
      Not a bad idea either.
Jul 19th 2008
199
      I'd agree, if not for this reason;
Jul 19th 2008
289
           And you also completely throw out the set up for the (SPOILER)
Jul 19th 2008
290
                i hated the sonar thing
Jul 21st 2008
416
Tonight @ 9:30. And Tues @ 8 in IMAX. The hardest part....
Jul 18th 2008
50
If Heath were alive, would his performance be AS good??
Jul 18th 2008
52
I honestly did not pay attention to the fact that I was watching Heath.....
Jul 18th 2008
53
Agreed. And I looked HARD to try to see Heath behind that makeup.
Jul 18th 2008
56
definitely
Jul 18th 2008
58
i saw him......
Jul 18th 2008
112
      Well, he was still made up in that scene, but yeah.
Jul 18th 2008
127
I agree...
Jul 19th 2008
274
at work
Jul 18th 2008
63
All bullshit aside, hell yes
Jul 18th 2008
120
I think people still would have given him props
Jul 18th 2008
157
RE: I think people still would have given him props
Jul 21st 2008
414
YES
Jul 19th 2008
277
Yes. Yes, it would.
Jul 19th 2008
283
just for the record, I wasnt bein a dick, this was a serious question
Jul 19th 2008
301
yes
Jul 19th 2008
302
Mercy!
Jul 18th 2008
54
Excellent
Jul 18th 2008
57
there's no way in hell that was the real ending
Jul 18th 2008
59
RE: there's no way in hell that was the real ending
Jul 18th 2008
77
eh they were all done with shooting when he died
Jul 18th 2008
131
it's suppose to be a trilogy
Jul 18th 2008
153
RE: there's no way in hell that was the real ending
Jul 20th 2008
408
I'm kinda torn here.
Jul 18th 2008
61
Not necessarily
Jul 18th 2008
154
this'll probably be at like 300+ when i get back on sunday
Jul 18th 2008
62
you are correct, sir
Jul 20th 2008
345
It was amazing.
Jul 18th 2008
64
who knows if he ever came out of it.......
Jul 18th 2008
102
It's sad to think we won't see Ledger again as the Joker.
Jul 18th 2008
66
Dear Longo,
Jul 18th 2008
69
Tripping?
Jul 18th 2008
71
      with nowhere to unpack
Jul 18th 2008
85
      Longo, what is your top 5?
Jul 18th 2008
97
           Folks'll hate, but I would consider putting...
Jul 18th 2008
108
                iron man is less flawed than x2 IMO
Jul 18th 2008
132
                nah no hate
Jul 20th 2008
381
...i really don't know what to say...
Jul 18th 2008
72
6am imax tix
Jul 18th 2008
73
LET'S PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACEEEUH!!!!
Jul 18th 2008
90
favorite shot: (spolier)
Jul 18th 2008
74
My God, I laughed my ass off during that bit with the explosions.
Jul 19th 2008
334
      thats one of those shots you have to nail, too
Jul 19th 2008
337
           They probably did it with compositing and CGI...
Jul 20th 2008
367
                i doubt it
Jul 20th 2008
393
                I think it looks legit too, but the film has really good CGI
Jul 20th 2008
411
                chris nolan in an interview said it was real
Jul 22nd 2008
512
Morgan Freeman killed all his scenes (spoiler)
Jul 18th 2008
76
that was funny
Jul 18th 2008
78
      Let me get this straight...
Jul 18th 2008
81
5 Aces Up...Joker's Wild. The Nolan/Pfister combo beasts again
Jul 18th 2008
79
RE: 5 Aces Up...Joker's Wild. The Nolan/Pfister combo beasts again
Jul 18th 2008
156
That's what I thought of when that sequence happened (SPOILERS)
Jul 19th 2008
284
Good call on the Saw reference
Jul 21st 2008
464
it should of been called "the long halloween"-dent
Jul 18th 2008
158
It all comes together so powerfully....words can't even truly justify it
Jul 18th 2008
80
"....very white but it was worth the wait." *dead*
Jul 18th 2008
119
i somewhut disagree at this one point
Jul 18th 2008
159
the hand to hand combat was definitely redundant/lacking
Jul 18th 2008
166
when Heath/Joker is in the police car with his head out the window
Jul 18th 2008
82
possibly one of the greatest shots of Ledger ever
Jul 18th 2008
91
Hell yeah!!!
Jul 18th 2008
140
found a picture of it:
Jul 18th 2008
164
i almost cried when
Jul 19th 2008
178
its the little touches like this that make this movie so good
Jul 19th 2008
263
Yeah, that's when it hit me that we wouldn't be seeing this dude in this
Jul 19th 2008
285
That was an excellent shot
Jul 20th 2008
399
on: The Bat Growl
Jul 18th 2008
83
it did almost become a sore point in the film
Jul 18th 2008
84
about the actual score
Jul 18th 2008
86
yup, I was hoping someone else would notice that as well
Jul 18th 2008
87
oh hells ye. i thought i luvd the score for Batman Begins
Jul 18th 2008
89
the score was sick. sooo good.
Jul 18th 2008
96
YES!!! THE FUCKIN' SCORE...right from the jump, too
Jul 18th 2008
160
about bats' voice
Jul 20th 2008
403
The only weak part of the film, IMO...especially...
Jul 18th 2008
101
The bat growl just kills me I really really hate it
Jul 18th 2008
103
I got a "thing" for Maggie, but I don't think she was fly in this.
Jul 18th 2008
147
Worse were his sensitive speeches. "This isn't who you are, Harvey."
Jul 18th 2008
107
The Bat Growl didn't bother me
Jul 18th 2008
143
HOLY FUCK!!!!!!! THAT SHIT WAS AMAZING!!!
Jul 18th 2008
88
Upon further thought...
Jul 18th 2008
93
The thing that blew me away...
Jul 18th 2008
94
He had me straight up mesmerized....
Jul 18th 2008
123
when heath said he was keeping a 'dark diary' to prepare for the role
Jul 18th 2008
135
On first viewing: Good, not great
Jul 18th 2008
98
Come here, watch me do a magic trick.
Jul 18th 2008
105
Cosign on the feelings of the climax.
Jul 18th 2008
106
I kinda felt that, too
Jul 18th 2008
109
      I'm not so sure tho.
Jul 18th 2008
111
           I don't think the ending would've felt like that
Jul 19th 2008
212
It's clear
Jul 18th 2008
110
Yes.
Jul 18th 2008
113
but there are about three *would be* climaxes before that
Jul 18th 2008
167
the climax was... spoilers
Jul 20th 2008
404
      I read in an interview that Nolan said he takes his own last pass at a
Jul 20th 2008
405
It's very good (spoilers)
Jul 18th 2008
99
FISA critic!!!! (lol)
Jul 18th 2008
161
that cell phone sonar was stolen from Daredevil
Jul 19th 2008
169
      i thought it was a slick way to get batman' eyes white
Jul 19th 2008
196
           That shit did look pretty tight. Like the purp-eyed ninjas in Begins
Jul 21st 2008
440
Jul 18th 2008
100
Saw it this Wednesday (special screening). INSANE...
Jul 18th 2008
115
It made $18 million just off of midnite shows?
Jul 18th 2008
121
It could. It's gonna be THAT big of a hit.
Jul 18th 2008
125
SICK....but....
Jul 18th 2008
128
You're kidding, right?
Jul 18th 2008
129
pay attention!
Jul 18th 2008
133
You prolly slept through the last scenes. LOL *SPOILER*
Jul 18th 2008
142
RE: You prolly slept through the last scenes. LOL *SPOILER*
Jul 18th 2008
162
were you napping? lol
Jul 19th 2008
170
You're talking about when he's running to the Bat Cycle, right?
Jul 20th 2008
370
LMAO
Jul 21st 2008
421
gonna watch the 2nd time tomorrow.
Jul 18th 2008
134
I don't even know what to say... it was tight as hell
Jul 18th 2008
139
There's high praise & then there's this
Jul 21st 2008
441
LMAO
Jul 21st 2008
466
Ledger's Oscar is coming
Jul 18th 2008
144
Nolan is the shit.
Jul 18th 2008
146
LOL - #3 on the IMDB top 250.
Jul 18th 2008
148
It's worse than ever!
Jul 18th 2008
149
RE: It's worse than ever!
Jul 21st 2008
443
Me and my boy were laughing at that for about 5 mins.
Jul 21st 2008
448
I know I'm in the minority but I like the Bat Growl
Jul 18th 2008
150
I agree...
Jul 18th 2008
155
can we please clarify this: is Two-Face DEAD or not?
Jul 18th 2008
163
I LOVED Batman Begins, but here's what makes this better (spoilers)
Jul 18th 2008
165
was anybody else in this movie besides Heath Ledger?
Jul 19th 2008
168
Yeah, I anticipated with them replacing katie holmes...
Jul 19th 2008
173
      i agree here
Jul 20th 2008
378
anybody else bothered by these reviews saying
Jul 19th 2008
171
GOTDAMN HEATH LEDGER STOLE THIS MOVIE
Jul 19th 2008
172
"how about a MAGIC trick?" - (C) Joker......
Jul 19th 2008
174
bruce is shady!!! rachel actualy mattered!! gordon ascends!!
Jul 19th 2008
176
i believe you are wrong
Jul 19th 2008
181
very very good
Jul 19th 2008
186
at first...
Jul 19th 2008
190
that wasn't obvious?
Jul 19th 2008
192
joker PURPOSELY gave him the wrong address
Jul 19th 2008
197
      that's what i said
Jul 19th 2008
267
he chose Rachel. Joker gave him the opposite address.
Jul 19th 2008
211
      But it's really not clear. They messed that part up.
Jul 19th 2008
217
      I don't think you payed attention to Joker.
Jul 19th 2008
219
      I just don't think we should take the CHAOS thing to extremes.
Jul 19th 2008
226
           being that the joker is an anarchist....chaos to the extreme WAS the poi...
Jul 19th 2008
235
           well, I'm watching the scene now. Joker LIED.
Jul 19th 2008
237
           nah, homey.
Jul 19th 2008
238
                you're right
Jul 19th 2008
246
                     you know what's awesome to me? It's an assumption
Jul 19th 2008
294
                     I was thinking the same thing!!!!!
Jul 19th 2008
308
                          Same Here
Jul 20th 2008
400
                     I also have an assumption
Jul 19th 2008
303
                          her timer was definitely set 30 secs earlier
Jul 19th 2008
305
      It was clear to me. Gorden asks him "Whic one are you going to?"
Jul 22nd 2008
521
      'll have to check for that today.
Jul 19th 2008
227
im just gonna list off random things running through
Jul 19th 2008
179
few cameos
Jul 19th 2008
184
ohhh okay
Jul 19th 2008
185
haha.
Jul 19th 2008
193
VERMONT!!!!!
Jul 20th 2008
356
RE: im just gonna list off random things running through
Jul 19th 2008
230
About the scars,
Jul 19th 2008
260
Harley Quinn is a silly idea.
Jul 19th 2008
292
      BUT my friend
Jul 20th 2008
373
      have you read the comics they DID put her in afterwards?
Jul 22nd 2008
547
little more about heath's portrayal--
Jul 19th 2008
180
RE: little more about heath's portrayal--
Jul 19th 2008
234
C plus/B-minus. BATMAN BEGINS BETTER(SPOILERS)
Jul 19th 2008
182
i feel like joker had purpose
Jul 19th 2008
183
RE: C plus/B-minus. BATMAN BEGINS BETTER(SPOILERS)
Jul 19th 2008
187
I think.
Jul 19th 2008
188
I respect these beefs
Jul 19th 2008
191
Hey y'all - it's that dude who goes against the grain!!!
Jul 19th 2008
195
lol
Jul 19th 2008
276
Basically
Jul 20th 2008
368
don't forget, hancock was a great B movie
Jul 21st 2008
494
Odd how more and more people are agreeing with me, eh?
Jul 22nd 2008
515
hey, it's your opinion, but i definitely disagree with this
Jul 19th 2008
198
whoa, great stuff all around.
Jul 19th 2008
209
word. if you're paying attention, Harvey already had the tendencies.
Jul 19th 2008
214
I forgot about when he tries to get info out of the schizo too
Jul 19th 2008
262
LMAO!!! WRONG!!!!
Jul 19th 2008
244
      RE: LMAO!!! WRONG!!!!
Jul 19th 2008
317
           LOL. WRONG Part Deux
Jul 19th 2008
328
                if it makes you feel better
Jul 19th 2008
332
                i like the movie as it is
Jul 22nd 2008
549
dude...Joker is not an organized criminal
Jul 19th 2008
229
you were hating hard before it even came out, so your biased review
Jul 19th 2008
243
LOL. As if the other opinions in here aren't biased. LOL.
Jul 19th 2008
245
      you're going out of your way to hate, like you want a cookie or somethin
Jul 19th 2008
268
           No, I'm making legit points that no one wants to discuss.
Jul 19th 2008
314
                Actually they were discussed. But anyone who disagrees is WRONG
Jul 21st 2008
450
boooOOOoooOOOooo
Jul 19th 2008
271
some random thoughts
Jul 19th 2008
189
i just accepted the fact that some people in real life are lifeless
Jul 19th 2008
200
lol -- now you're copping MAJOR pleas
Jul 19th 2008
231
      no lie- it was a plea copped
Jul 19th 2008
240
Cosign all of these points, especially--
Jul 19th 2008
201
X2's action scences >>>>>>>>> Dark Knight's action scenes
Jul 19th 2008
203
that tunnel scene was pretty great, tho
Jul 19th 2008
275
i really didnt like the two face cgi
Jul 19th 2008
210
he looked like a Terminator rip off
Jul 19th 2008
232
i was kinda suprised that they downplayed it alot
Jul 19th 2008
241
I'll agree that there might have been one too many action scenes.
Jul 19th 2008
296
Unbelievably good... exceeded my very lofty expectations
Jul 19th 2008
194
Not to disrespect the dead, but let's fall back about Health Ledger
Jul 19th 2008
204
Heath Ledger's Joker >>> Jack Nicholson's Joker....
Jul 19th 2008
205
They were both great, but Jack's character was far better
Jul 19th 2008
251
      more complete? Fuck are you talking about?
Jul 19th 2008
295
           The plea copping ensues
Jul 19th 2008
315
                As does the self gratification
Jul 21st 2008
451
ledger's joker perfectly repped the graphic novels
Jul 19th 2008
207
for starters, that tortured soul shit is pure speculation, & quite typic...
Jul 19th 2008
208
the performance reviews are on point.
Jul 19th 2008
213
Wait don't you rip on Jack's performance in the Departed regularly?
Jul 19th 2008
239
      LOL. And what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
Jul 19th 2008
247
           Lol it has a lot to do with it.
Jul 19th 2008
249
           No, it doesn't and you you're reaching. Do better.
Jul 19th 2008
252
           The same thing QT & M-Dogg have to do with each other
Jul 21st 2008
452
                HAHAH I'm really getting under your skin, eh?
Jul 21st 2008
471
                     HAHAH NOPE. I'm havin fun son!
Jul 21st 2008
475
                          ^^^Jake Gyllenhall in Brokeback <--HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Jul 21st 2008
491
                               ^^^Thinks the 3rd time will harm
Jul 22nd 2008
526
                                    ^^^^Jake Gyllenhall in BROKEBACK <---HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Jul 22nd 2008
535
It was fuckin incredible.
Jul 19th 2008
206
btw, Joker pretty much won. He turned Dent.
Jul 19th 2008
215
he DID *technically win* but....
Jul 19th 2008
233
$65 mil on Friday alone, sets a single-day box office record.
Jul 19th 2008
216
GUAP
Jul 19th 2008
221
good god DAMN
Jul 19th 2008
256
Update: $67+ million on late Thurs-Friday. NOPE! NOLAN! NUMBERS!
Jul 19th 2008
293
Epic Shit, I dont even feel like nitpicking
Jul 19th 2008
218
oh btw, about Dent and the ending
Jul 19th 2008
220
i agree
Jul 19th 2008
223
Right. I really don't think they killed off Dent at the end.
Jul 19th 2008
236
The magic trick was the most gangster shit I've ever seen.
Jul 19th 2008
222
correction: (spoiler)
Jul 19th 2008
224
the riddler if they do it right
Jul 19th 2008
225
THAT shit set the tone
Jul 19th 2008
228
that scene was top notch
Jul 19th 2008
242
The magic trick was my fav moment of the movie....
Jul 19th 2008
306
YES!!! DEEBO!
Jul 19th 2008
330
Oh, and Batman himself was very mediocre in this movie
Jul 19th 2008
248
what gadgets?
Jul 19th 2008
250
Again, the Batman character as a whole was boring.
Jul 19th 2008
253
I guess you don't read.
Jul 19th 2008
254
that shit was ill though
Jul 19th 2008
257
This thread is filled with people complaining about the voice.
Jul 19th 2008
258
there was gadgets THRUOUT THE MOVIE!!!
Jul 19th 2008
255
but what was most of it?
Jul 19th 2008
259
      they showed the gadgets, but they don't make the movie
Jul 19th 2008
304
           no, Casino Royale's problem was a 40 minute long poker game
Jul 19th 2008
309
there were plenty of gadgets.
Jul 19th 2008
297
      they could have been used better
Jul 19th 2008
311
           aw, get outta here.
Jul 19th 2008
313
                *shrug*
Jul 19th 2008
316
                     i can't fault you for the combat comments
Jul 19th 2008
320
                     I dunno man...
Jul 20th 2008
340
                          lol, but he ended up just kicking everyone's ass
Jul 20th 2008
343
                               He broke some dude's arm
Jul 20th 2008
346
                                    And Sally's ankles
Jul 21st 2008
454
boooOOOoooOOOooo
Jul 19th 2008
270
actually batman was quite good
Jul 19th 2008
278
the movie wasn't about him tho
Jul 19th 2008
281
his fighting abilities aren't overly exaggerated
Jul 20th 2008
385
i heard a rumor that...
Jul 19th 2008
261
its true, he did improv that
Jul 19th 2008
264
Yeah, and its overrated.
Jul 19th 2008
265
Lol...the movie's been out for 36 hours.
Jul 19th 2008
266
      And already I've read/heard about that clapping bullshit 3,591 times
Jul 19th 2008
322
           sour puss
Jul 20th 2008
342
           ^^^came here just to piss in the punchbowl.
Jul 20th 2008
369
           And we've already read about you being mad 3,591 times
Jul 21st 2008
459
                ^^^Jake Gyllenhall in Brokeback <---HAHAHAHAH
Jul 21st 2008
472
                     ^^^So mad he's still using gay brokeback jokes
Jul 21st 2008
476
                          ^^^^Jake Gyllenhall in BROKEBACK <---HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Jul 21st 2008
496
                               ^^^^Stuck on stupid
Jul 22nd 2008
527
                                    ^^^^Jake Gyllenhall in BROKEBACK <---HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Jul 22nd 2008
534
man. That dude understood. lol
Jul 19th 2008
269
      The look on his face was perfect. Unless of course OE sez it aint.
Jul 21st 2008
460
it was everything i could have hoped for and more!!!!
Jul 19th 2008
272
great flick
Jul 19th 2008
279
it was well worth getting up at 3am for the IMAX
Jul 19th 2008
280
Yeah. Hot shit.
Jul 19th 2008
282
i agree with you on this
Jul 19th 2008
286
I concur
Jul 19th 2008
291
you're right that it was forced
Jul 20th 2008
352
Wasn't she a ballet dancer? (nitpicking i know)
Jul 19th 2008
287
Say who say what? (check the edit, and thnx)
Jul 19th 2008
288
the hell does she have to be mad about?
Jul 19th 2008
299
Not her, but somebody else. And I'm going to have to leave it at that.
Jul 19th 2008
307
      soooooooooooooooo why even bring it up then.
Jul 19th 2008
326
           Because I can
Jul 19th 2008
335
I think Nolan gets the blame for the bad action
Jul 20th 2008
377
      RE: I think Nolan gets the blame for the bad action
Jul 20th 2008
383
           Well if that's the rationale
Jul 20th 2008
387
Some Tom O'Neill food for thought regarding Ledger Oscar talk (swipe)
Jul 19th 2008
298
what a maroon.
Jul 19th 2008
300
      Warner hype machine at work
Jul 19th 2008
310
           Fuck you, you arrogant piece of shit!
Jul 19th 2008
312
           well...i'll agree with maggie not being attractive in this flick
Jul 19th 2008
336
           yea she wasn't attractive
Jul 20th 2008
353
           RE: well...i'll agree with maggie not being attractive in this flick
Jul 22nd 2008
561
           RE: Fuck you, you arrogant piece of shit!
Jul 20th 2008
341
                Don't act like you didn't insult the intelligence of most in here.
Jul 20th 2008
358
                     RE: Don't act like you didn't insult the intelligence of most in here.
Jul 20th 2008
363
                          again no and again quit it
Jul 21st 2008
468
           Apparently CNN was the only people who gave this a good review
Jul 19th 2008
318
           right? like lets disregard every other rave review
Jul 19th 2008
325
           and you know when your theory will fail?
Jul 19th 2008
319
           ^^^^FIYA^^^^
Jul 19th 2008
321
           He holds Pulp Fiction in high regard so you can get off his dick now
Jul 21st 2008
461
                HAHAHA^^^FURIOUS^^^
Jul 21st 2008
470
                     HAHAHA PREDICTABLE &^^^REALLY IS^^^ Callin names
Jul 21st 2008
474
                          ^^^^Jake Gyllenhall in BROKEBACK <---HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Jul 21st 2008
495
           the people on the imdb.com wants a word with you
Jul 19th 2008
323
           And that is complete and utter bullshit, famo
Jul 19th 2008
327
           RE: Warner hype machine at work
Jul 19th 2008
329
           RE: Warner hype machine at work
Jul 20th 2008
344
                ah ok you like lifetime movies
Jul 20th 2008
354
                     RE: ah ok you like lifetime movies
Jul 20th 2008
355
                          is this why you like drama?
Jul 20th 2008
359
                          RE: is this why you like drama?
Jul 20th 2008
360
                               more drama?
Jul 20th 2008
362
                               RE: more drama?
Jul 20th 2008
364
                                    and here is where you over step yourself, yet again
Jul 20th 2008
374
                                    RE: and here is where you over step yourself, yet again
Jul 20th 2008
380
                                    You're absolutely right.
Jul 20th 2008
389
                               See what I said? You're continuing to fuck up.
Jul 20th 2008
388
                          How do you do it?
Jul 20th 2008
386
           ledger did more than a 'solid job'
Jul 19th 2008
338
           ^^^ Killin' em softly nm
Jul 19th 2008
339
           RE: Warner hype machine at work
Jul 20th 2008
409
           Actually, I'll give you a couple myself.
Jul 21st 2008
423
           omg
Jul 21st 2008
458
                Who's complaining. We were asked for plot holes
Jul 21st 2008
465
           how the hell did Batman save Rachel
Jul 22nd 2008
505
                his cape slowed them a bit. the sound was built around that
Jul 22nd 2008
557
           yes, warner owns 94% of the critics on RT
Jul 22nd 2008
502
Movie worth it for Deebo (yes, that Deebo) alone.
Jul 19th 2008
331
i was both awed and saddened by Ledger's performance
Jul 19th 2008
333
Why yall hidin Batgirl!! We see it!
Jul 20th 2008
347
I think they're trying to play their cards right
Jul 20th 2008
349
Barbara Gordon is the wife of Commissioner Gordon?!
Jul 20th 2008
371
      naw they just didn't name the daughter
Jul 20th 2008
372
           and showed her barely, kinda shadowy once
Jul 20th 2008
376
           100% sure the wife was introduce as Barbra
Jul 20th 2008
396
           ye they did
Jul 21st 2008
412
           (sp) Barbara
Jul 21st 2008
413
           *shrugs* Barbara and Barbara Jr. Problem solved.
Jul 21st 2008
493
Was there anything at the end of the credits?
Jul 20th 2008
348
I liked it. Heath was brilliant but the rest was a mixed bag
Jul 20th 2008
350
^^^COSIGN!!!
Jul 20th 2008
365
^^I'm with this guy
Jul 20th 2008
375
RE
Jul 20th 2008
390
Yeah, I mean I'm not the biggest fan of the original
Jul 20th 2008
391
Here's a review I agree with
Jul 20th 2008
410
^^^ biggest cosign I could ever give, thank god I'm not alone
Jul 22nd 2008
506
Yeah, that's pretty close to what I thought.
Jul 22nd 2008
532
Joker's final monologue was brilliant.....
Jul 20th 2008
351
Wow! I loved it. The movie was just incredible.
Jul 20th 2008
357
155.3
Jul 20th 2008
361
DAMN!!!
Jul 21st 2008
418
no special weekend either, just a regular weekend
Jul 21st 2008
422
SM3 coppin pleas tho, sayin it sold less tickets
Jul 21st 2008
429
NOPE! NUMBERS BIGGER! NOLAN! BAIL! KNOW DA (heath) LEDGE!
Jul 21st 2008
482
Does Nolan have a hard on for The Wire?
Jul 20th 2008
366
the problem with rachel dawes
Jul 20th 2008
379
i mentioned this earlier
Jul 20th 2008
384
      ok
Jul 20th 2008
398
      HAHAHAHA THE GRINDHOUSE PLEA COP STRIKES AGAIN!!!!!!!!
Jul 21st 2008
424
      yumping yehosephat
Jul 21st 2008
442
      Huh? She's what drives Dent crazy and is Bruce Wayne's true love
Jul 21st 2008
445
Scarecrow question
Jul 20th 2008
392
basically to close a tie-in
Jul 20th 2008
394
      RE: basically to close a tie-in
Jul 20th 2008
395
           who you talking about???
Jul 20th 2008
397
           were you actually watching??
Jul 21st 2008
417
           He wasnt he threw his mask off and faked like he
Jul 21st 2008
425
Wow...
Jul 20th 2008
402
RE: Wow...
Jul 20th 2008
407
SON. Shit was INCREDIBLE.
Jul 20th 2008
406
Just got back, it's dope as hell
Jul 21st 2008
415
Good not great and definitely too long
Jul 21st 2008
419
^^^Hit in on the head. The length and Two Face ruined this one.
Jul 21st 2008
430
I'll agree with this
Jul 21st 2008
438
upon second viewing, I have to agree
Jul 22nd 2008
504
BEST MOVIE EVER!
Jul 21st 2008
420
where you been?
Jul 28th 2008
601
I think it is one of the GOAT comic movies
Jul 21st 2008
426
This is what happens when an unstoppable force hits an immovable object
Jul 21st 2008
427
terrible movie
Jul 21st 2008
432
      RE: terrible movie
Jul 21st 2008
434
      RE: terrible movie
Jul 21st 2008
435
      Wrong
Jul 21st 2008
436
      what did he do that nobody else could do?
Jul 21st 2008
437
           It's unfair tho
Jul 21st 2008
439
           RE: It's unfair tho
Jul 21st 2008
444
                Pacino, Hopkins and DeNro, huh?
Jul 21st 2008
446
                RE: It's unfair tho
Jul 22nd 2008
517
           apparently Heath applied his own makeup
Jul 21st 2008
479
      Only thing I agree with is this
Jul 21st 2008
449
      ^^^^^^^YOGA FIYA!!!
Jul 21st 2008
455
Oscar talk a bit much
Jul 21st 2008
433
2 things:
Jul 21st 2008
447
COSIGN!!!!!!
Jul 21st 2008
456
I see ALL THE PEOPLE WHO THINK FOR THEMSELVES showed up TODAY
Jul 21st 2008
457
I see you're still mad its getting better reviews & numbers than Hancock
Jul 21st 2008
462
he's a sad individual
Jul 21st 2008
467
he wants to see the world burn
Jul 21st 2008
489
      and put a smile on our faces
Jul 22nd 2008
516
Nope, I hope Dark Knight does huge numbers.
Jul 21st 2008
469
      If it sucks, why'd you give it a B minus.
Jul 21st 2008
480
           That was after my first viewing. Its a solid 'C' now.
Jul 21st 2008
490
                lmao at you seeing a movie u are hating on so much twice
Jul 22nd 2008
501
                     Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier!
Jul 22nd 2008
507
                     Oh, I missed it on IMAX the first time.
Jul 22nd 2008
514
                          Post 430 was made after you said you saw it again though.
Jul 22nd 2008
519
                               I'm cool with a C+
Jul 22nd 2008
525
boooOOOoooOOOooo
Jul 21st 2008
481
      boooOOOoooOOOooo
Jul 21st 2008
499
It couldn't live up to the hype, but I liked it
Jul 21st 2008
463
Question: What was the point of the dude knowing who Batman was?
Jul 21st 2008
473
What I took from that scene....
Jul 21st 2008
478
Correct.
Aug 05th 2008
610
i got a feeling reese plays a larger role in the next movie
Jul 21st 2008
483
RE: i got a feeling reese plays a larger role in the next movie
Jul 21st 2008
487
yeah
Jul 22nd 2008
503
bruce "saved" his life, but....
Jul 22nd 2008
511
      Did you NOT catch the fact that they nodded to eachother?
Jul 22nd 2008
522
           RE: Did you NOT catch the fact that they nodded to eachother?
Jul 22nd 2008
551
Haha you STAY COPPING PLEAS FOR PLOTHOLES!!
Jul 21st 2008
492
      Sez the guy who makes up his own definition for B movies
Jul 22nd 2008
528
           ^^^^Jake Gyllenhall in BROKEBACK <---HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Jul 22nd 2008
529
                Yep. I'm havin some furious favre callin you out on your dumb shit
Jul 22nd 2008
533
                     ^^^^Jake Gyllenhall in BROKEBACK <---HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Jul 22nd 2008
536
It was in order to make a long movie longer.
Jul 22nd 2008
531
is it too late to talk about the CHAMPAGNE?
Jul 21st 2008
484
lol, can you just imagine the press release?
Jul 21st 2008
485
</POST>
Jul 21st 2008
486
lol!
Jul 21st 2008
488
Bruce dropped Champagne off the balcony... but we never saw it land.
Jul 21st 2008
497
*DEAD*
Jul 22nd 2008
538
I'm tempted to write Devin Fatasshi's response to this news
Jul 21st 2008
500
one of the best little wrinkles in the movie
Jul 22nd 2008
508
lol i caught that too.
Jul 22nd 2008
539
I noticed both of those, but didn't put them together
Jul 22nd 2008
541
Excellent movie. Will watch again.
Jul 21st 2008
498
Question about Two-Face *Spoiler*
Jul 22nd 2008
509
You're right.
Jul 22nd 2008
510
he didn't kill batman so technically it's correct
Jul 22nd 2008
513
haha aat "Jekyll Hyde" asking that
Jul 22nd 2008
542
i noticed it too, and its one of my fav little parts. let me explain:
Jul 28th 2008
599
OH -- and the "resolution" to the fundraiser scene??!!? Cmon!!
Jul 22nd 2008
518
the movie's already 2 1/2 hrs long...i'm SURE things have to be cut out
Jul 22nd 2008
520
yes, it's THAT important, b/c Harvey Dent was NOT safe
Jul 22nd 2008
537
well, at the TIME...
Jul 22nd 2008
545
way too much trivial nit picking of this movie
Jul 22nd 2008
540
Joker has teleportation powers, you dummy.
Jul 22nd 2008
524
dang. didn't even think about that. Well done.
Jul 22nd 2008
544
disagree... it was trivial
Jul 22nd 2008
546
I thought he tossed her out as a diversion so he could escape
Jul 22nd 2008
553
which would make sense if they had like a TWO SECOND EDIT
Jul 22nd 2008
555
this is a legit beef
Jul 22nd 2008
558
Joker thought Dent was Batman due to his reaction to Rachel's fall
Jul 23rd 2008
569
Just poppin in to agree that it was amazing. Already planning my...
Jul 22nd 2008
523
For most of these negative responses...
Jul 22nd 2008
530
RE: Ze Official Dark Knight AWWW SHIT Post
Jul 22nd 2008
543
RE: Ze Official Dark Knight AWWW SHIT Post
Jul 22nd 2008
548
plenty of nitpicking in this thread, but most of the holes are legit
Jul 22nd 2008
550
Plenty of plea copping in this thread, but most of the pleas are invalid
Jul 22nd 2008
552
      did Nolan kidnap your sister?
Jul 22nd 2008
554
      No, but he did make a mediocre Batman movie.
Jul 23rd 2008
564
      i just dont see how your criticisms matter for a superhero movie
Jul 22nd 2008
556
           My criticisms matter to non-Fanboys
Jul 23rd 2008
565
                no actually they don't
Jul 26th 2008
583
saw it second time tonight, caught a lot more stuff
Jul 22nd 2008
559
mertz was driving dent's car too
Jul 22nd 2008
560
Did people complain about that?
Jul 23rd 2008
566
COSIGN
Jul 24th 2008
572
a linger in this movie = .0000001 seconds
Jul 23rd 2008
571
I take back my combat gadgetry complaint
Jul 24th 2008
575
did you see his hydraulic super-strength gadget?
Jul 24th 2008
576
      yea..you hear that air pressure exhaust when he did it too....
Jul 26th 2008
588
i thought sal maroni was walkin' with a LIMP
Jul 26th 2008
587
Yeah I don't think I can watch Tim Burton's Batman ever again....
Jul 23rd 2008
562
foreshadowing:
Jul 24th 2008
574
      he tossed that coin for the kid tho...
Jul 25th 2008
581
Did we really go 500 posts without a single...
Jul 23rd 2008
563
It was a lil long but that movie was the SHIT. I like Micheal Keaton
Jul 23rd 2008
567
Saw it in IMAX last night....unfucking believable
Jul 23rd 2008
568
i know what you mean man
Jul 24th 2008
573
      RE: i know what you mean man
Jul 24th 2008
577
           i changed my mind
Jul 24th 2008
578
you know, i wouldn't mind nightwing showing up in the third.
Jul 23rd 2008
570
i don't understand folks beef w/the fall of dent...
Jul 25th 2008
579
finally seen it yesterday in the uk
Jul 25th 2008
580
wasnt THAT good *
Jul 25th 2008
582
um batman travelled to go after villains in the comics too
Jul 26th 2008
584
this is why i like it
Jul 26th 2008
585
      but nolans visual treatment is pretty boring
Jul 27th 2008
589
           nolans visual treatment is pretty boring???
Jul 27th 2008
592
                I do
Jul 27th 2008
597
                     yes, but the brightness of spider-man's new york should not...
Jul 28th 2008
598
TDK is on track to make break $300 in 10 days
Jul 26th 2008
586
i hope it makes more than $300 dollars in 10 days. lol. n/m
Jul 27th 2008
593
      it just broke $314 million.
Jul 27th 2008
596
one thing i still don't get.....
Jul 27th 2008
590
i thought the purpose was to show that batman's rogues never go away...
Jul 27th 2008
591
      that AND he was still on the loose.
Jul 27th 2008
595
2nd week--76 million more. new record for 2nd week
Jul 27th 2008
594
Bats need a cough drop, yo!
Jul 28th 2008
600
last ten minutes were slight let down
Jul 29th 2008
602
haha that was one of my favorite Joker moments
Jul 29th 2008
603
Why did they give Joker half the cash?
Jul 29th 2008
604
he didn't want Batman to be killed (anymore?)
Jul 31st 2008
607
      RE: he didn't want Batman to be killed (anymore?)
Jul 31st 2008
608
Dark Knight shooting script/art now on sale
Jul 30th 2008
605
q for batman comic book fans -
Jul 31st 2008
606
393.8 M in 3 weeks
Aug 05th 2008
609
technically 18 days- LESS THAN 3 WKS
Aug 05th 2008
615
It was NOICE in IMAX. It still holds up.
Aug 05th 2008
611
I hope this reaches Titanic's gross.....
Aug 05th 2008
612
don't you think The Dark Knight...
Aug 05th 2008
613
      Aside from that glaring plothole......
Aug 06th 2008
619
           i agree with titanic
Aug 06th 2008
620
We'll know for sure in a couple weeks, but I don't think it beats Titani...
Aug 05th 2008
614
considering it's at 400 mill and we're not a month IN yet
Aug 05th 2008
616
      it has a great chance
Aug 05th 2008
617
           The IMAX here is still selling out advance shows thru Saturday
Aug 05th 2008
618
TDK will be #1 again next week....
Aug 18th 2008
621
it's possible....not a strong weekend next week
Aug 18th 2008
622

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1. "I'm going tonight at 3:30am."
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6. "that show is sold out here. WTF? haha"
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2. "Gonna be my first movie this summer"
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I cannot wait any fucking longer, man. It's not healthy.
Planning on seeing it tomorrow at noon

  

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3. "i saw it couple days ago @ imax. fucking incredible."
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the opening shot filled the entire screen, and we were only maybe 4 or 5 rows from the front. so it felt like we were actually in the damn picture. was freaky as hell.

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24. "RE: i saw it couple days ago @ imax. fucking incredible."
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I kind of saw it Tuesday...until a lightening storm cut it off 2 hours deep! And because it was IMAX, it is basically impossible to start a reel anywhere but the beginning, so that was it. Saw 2 hours, couldn't see the end. Unreal.

That said, the movie was incredible. And the IMAX scenes--holy shit.

If you care about seeing this movie, it is a REQUIREMENT to see it in IMAX.

  

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4. "Going tonight at midnight. Can't wait."
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Tony Sparks
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5. "midnight show awatching, god pls let the audience be good too."
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7. "The real? the OG was made exactly a year before the movie"
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thats the real one....but I'm going to see it tonight..

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8. "i avoided the hell out of the other topic."
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9. "Heard theres no Katie Holmes"
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126. "and that's a damn good thing. Maggie is waaay better."
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10. "My Lady just told me she wants to see it now"
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So she fucked my whole weekend plans up.

I have to wait on her to see it.

I'm fucked

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15. "Don't worry bro..."
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Thu Jul-17-08 05:29 PM by xbenzive

          

it's an awesome date movie...

I watched it with the woman, and she loved the hell out of it. We talked for hours about the movie.



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11. "If you can, GO SEE THIS IN IMAX"
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I was lucky enough to go the Dark Knight Gala at navy pier last night. Nolan said that is where he screened his daily shots at while shooting in Chicago. I was first row in the middle, and as soon as that opening sequence begins it was like "oh shit". Most of the reviews have been dead on, this movie is great, lives up to the hype. Ledge is unbelievably good. The major action sequence in the middle of the film damn near got a standing ovation. This movie ends with some closure, so I hope they don't make a 3rd one. The pressure to top this one is reason alone to stop.


  

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13. "HBO series."
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I think Nolan should consider making a HBO series base on his Batman. That would be nice. Have one show every week or 2 weeks, whether the budget is good for a series.



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116. "Damn good idea."
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12. "Top Notch Grade A Movie."
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14. "Fuck you Memphis...no around the clock showings"
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I'm going to the first show at noon tomorrow. I took a pass on the midnight shows tonight because I've got other things going on tonight. However, if that changes, my ass might be in a movie theater tonight and again tomorrow like I was for Revenge of the Sith.

TAFKA-Invisiblist did make a good point though. I'm sure nobody wanted to be in a Memphis movie theater at 3 AM, but I'm armed, so fuck that.

  

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32. "that shit was so gangster"
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>Wanna see a pen disappear?!
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136. "that shit was the fuckin' best!"
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16. "midnight checkin, my little brother is painting his face as Joker"
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two days again there was fours screens open, checked three hours ago out of curiosity and there's now six

  

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25. "i hope ur brother gets beat up"
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17. "Seattle's Boeing Imax has tickets available for 7/18"
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Oops, no they don't haha

12:01 **AM** The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT (Please NOTE - This show is at 12:01 AM on the 18th (i.e. Midnight on the 17th).)
3:00 **AM** The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT (Please NOTE - This show is at 3:00 AM)
6:00 **AM** The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT (Please NOTE - This show is at 6:00 AM)
9:00 **AM** The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT (Please NOTE - This show is at 9:00 AM)
12:00PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT
3:00PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT
6:00PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT
9:00PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT
11:59PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT

OKAY. Maybe the 19th?

9:00 **AM** The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT (Please NOTE - This show is at 9:00 AM)
12:00PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT
3:00PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT
6:00PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT
9:00PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT
11:59PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT

Fuck it. How about the 20th?

9:00 **AM** The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT (Please NOTE - This show is at 9:00 AM)
12:00PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT
3:00PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT
6:00PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT
9:00PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT
11:59PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience

Man, I can't go on the 20th at midnight, I have to go to work at 9am on Monday morning. How about Monday, the 21st, after I get off work at 5pm?

1:00PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience
4:00PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience
7:00PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience - This Event is SOLD OUT
10:00PM The Dark Knight: The IMAX Experience

Okay, maybe I could get out of work early and go to the 4pm show on Monday -- or go to the late show Monday night. When is the next 7pm show available?

The 22nd.

Okay, let's check the Cinerama...

  

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22. "i'm there tomorrow morning at 9"
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then off to work after.

  

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36. "I got tickets for San Francisco on Saturday"
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Flying out Saturday morning after getting off work.

  

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75. "Saw it down here in Maui last nite. Gotta see it on IMAX ASAP tho"
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I was hoping to catch the 9am on Sunday when I got back but I guess that'll have to wait. The screen in Hawaii was decent but it was obviously not doin it proper justice either. I just couldn't wait any longer & it was worth the wait.

  

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95. "Kaahumanu, Kukui or Front Street?"
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477. "Kaahumanu. Kind of a shitty theater but I couldn't wait."
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18. "Going at midnight."
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20. "And so am I"
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19. "seein it in IMAX... 10am Saturday morning...."
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my boy who scooped the tickets three weeks ago is like my best friend for life now.

i considered fucking going tonight anyway at 3am at a regular screening... im gonna chill and experience it in IMAX for the first time.

You know, we could all be reading a book right now.

  

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21. "Peeping on Saturday, and if it's def, next week again in IMAX"
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________________________________________________________________________
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(note to the usual tUoOS debaters, this will most likely be my final appearance in this post, so there's no use trying to start an argument... thnx)

  

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23. "*gets excited like a girl going to a Chris Brown concert*"
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And I'm bugging for going to a 6am show on Saturday. Fuck that, it's the IMAX and probably won't be crowded.

I'll be mad if I fall asleep though haha

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26. "9AM Tix, sunday @ the franklin institute in philly"
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everything else is sold out like a muh...im real amped, just watched batman begins again to prepare

  

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27. "i got my tickets for 12:01am"
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wonderful thing is, i don't start work until 1130am friday, and i get off at 415pm.

i was gonna wait until tomorrow, but this felt like the type of movie you have to see late at night.

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28. "I'm SOOOOOOOOOOO Hype. Hope we get tickets though."
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My dad's a known procrastinator so we'll probably have to buy at the theater. I don't even think i'mma need candy for this movie.

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29. "today (friday) 10:20pm IMAX king of prussia, pa"
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65. "If your going to the IMAX in KOP....."
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.....get there like 3 hours early. Dead serious. At the midnight show last night I got there 2 hours early and got some pretty shitty seats.

I ain't salty tho cuz Ima see on the IMAX Dome at the Franklin Institute Sunday night.

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175. "we were about 60-64 in line"
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got there little over 2 hrs early, but still got the last row like we wanted.

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30. "PLEASE don't make another one"
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Step away from the franchise for 10-15 years and let some future master give a take on it.

But there's no way they're topping this movie.

I gotta be at work in 4 hours and it was worth it.

  

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34. "RE: PLEASE don't make another one"
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>Step away from the franchise for 10-15 years and let some
>future master give a take on it.
>
>But there's no way they're topping this movie.
>
>I gotta be at work in 4 hours and it was worth it.
>

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114. "No, if done right they can pull one more off"
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The question is what villain do they select.


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273. "Mad Hatter, Ventriloquist, Killer Croc,"
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but please leave Mr. Freeze out of it.

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382. "the riddler?"
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31. "Man, THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE!(c)Katt Williams(spoilers)"
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Right from jump it had your attention and didn't let go.
Heath Ledger as Joker was everything critics said it was and then some!(you'll forget all about Jack after seeing Heath's performance)
The Action scenes were incredible, I loved it.
when he jumped off that building in China!!!
him riding that motorcycle after the batmobile self-destructed and he did that flip shit up against the wall, cats were like "OH SHIT" in theatre!!
Joker making that pencil disappear!
Story wise, action wise, cinematography wise, etc. this movie kicked ass, I'm def glad I went early, never did that before for any movie.

  

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33. "Classic cinema."
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'Begins' really laid the framework for this so we were able to jump right into the action - and up until the last 5 minutes I would call it more of a crime drama than a superhero/comic book movie. As a matter of fact, I think it focused more on Gotham City as a whole and the idea of good and evil more than just focusing on Batman/Bruce Wayne. Of course I can't finish off without mentioning Heath...he made me laugh, sent chills down my spine and always had my eyes glued to the screen. Damn near perfect.

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35. "Jesus fucking christ!"
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That's all I have to say.

  

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37. "Oh, and,"
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best actor.

Obviously.

People have been talking about supporting actor, but no. Bale was good but he was not the star of this picture.

  

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38. "Heath Stole the got damn show!"
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39. "Heath stole the got damn character!"
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They could make 50 more Batman movies, but nobody will ever dare to play the Joker on film again.

  

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42. "agreed"
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I said that in my original post, you'll forget about any other actor who played joker

  

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40. "just got back from the midnight showing....dope flick."
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There's nothing I can say about Heath that ain't been said already...dude ripped it.

Eckhart wasn't no slouch as Two-Face either tho....

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41. "RE: Ze Official Dark Knight AWWW SHIT Post"
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There is no way they can ever make a better sequel to that film.

(Hoping to be proven wrong in 2+ or so years)



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43. "i think i maybe hyped it up a little too much....*spoilers*"
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i mean literally nothing short of Jesus himself jumping out of the screen might have lived up to my fanboy expectations.....

definately agree w/ comment above, more of a crime drama than batman kicking ass for 2 hours, which was cool, i took it seriously.

GREAT tone and cinematography, and pacing! honestly i looked at my watch and was kinda bummed there was only an hour left!

some nitpicks (i mean this is okp, right?)

- last action scene w/ joker left me looking for more, and i thought it was kinda improbable that batman can tear through swat teams hand to hand but a psycho with a steel pipe, he gets pinned to the ground?

- while joker was incredibly acted, i would have liked to see more depth into joker, maybe an origin recap? i felt the slightest bit shortchanged that all we got out of the joker was pure nihilism/anarchy, but is that the best we can get out of the joker???

again, minor nitpicks, i felt like maybe my fanboy expectations were too thru the roof, but i also kind of feel like i need a repeated view just to process it better, i might have just been too overwhelmed by the whole thing.

although, i can say, after 2 and a half hours, i left wanting to see more joker and more batman, which has to say something.

overall ill give it a 9.7/10

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44. "one question *spoiler*"
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Is Two-Face dead? My girl think not because it seem like they wanted him to die with a cause instead of him being a pyscho on a killing spree. I think he's not. I can be wrong. It would be intresting they kept him in the Prison of some sort, and is Fox really leaving? DAMN. I need to see this again.



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45. "RE: one question *spoiler*"
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>
>Is Two-Face dead? My girl think not because it seem like they
>wanted him to die with a cause instead of him being a pyscho
>on a killing spree. I think he's not. I can be wrong.

He looked pretty dead last time I saw him. But I hope they figure out a copout for him. They set him up perfectly to play the main villain next time around. If they'd known they wouldn't be able to use Joker again, then they might have left that more open.

>It would
>be intresting they kept him in the Prison of some sort, and is
>Fox really leaving?

I don't think so. Remember, he said "either this machine goes or I go." Then his own name was the self-destruct command, and he smiled as he was walking away.


>DAMN. I need to see this again.

Me too.

  

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48. "thanks for the clarification."
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I got it now, his name was his password. DUH. Damn that just went pass by me.




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92. "RE: one question *spoiler*"
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>
>Is Two-Face dead? My girl think not because it seem like they
>wanted him to die with a cause instead of him being a pyscho
>on a killing spree.

I don't think Two Face is dead, they just gave Eckhart a funeral to preserve Gotham's image of hope. They don't want Gotham to know what became of him, that he killed 5... that's why Batman's taking the fall.

  

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145. "You may be right."
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>I don't think Two Face is dead, they just gave Eckhart a
>funeral to preserve Gotham's image of hope. They don't want
>Gotham to know what became of him, that he killed 5... that's
>why Batman's taking the fall.

  

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401. "RE: one answer *spoiler*"
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no.

gordon and batman say they need him alive. batman takes the fall for the two cops two face shot, only problem is, two face didn't shoot martinez. that's the one flaw i found in the flick, unless we're to believe two face flipped the coin again after martinez came up lucky
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453. "RE: one question *spoiler*"
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>
>Is Two-Face dead? My girl think not because it seem like they
>wanted him to die with a cause instead of him being a pyscho
>on a killing spree. I think he's not. I can be wrong. It would
>be intresting they kept him in the Prison of some sort, and is
>Fox really leaving? DAMN. I need to see this again.

YES! Batman took the fall because Harvey Dent was supposed to be a
catalyst for positive change in Gotham within the confines of the law.
After Dent's accident, he became the antithesis of that. So to not let
Dent's legacy be that of Two-Face, Batman took the heat and let Dent
die a hero. I don't even see how this is a question.

  

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46. "theres no joker origin"
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well you could take the red hood origin
but in the comics hes had like 10 origins

  

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151. "RE: i think i maybe hyped it up a little too much....*spoilers*"
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>
>some nitpicks (i mean this is okp, right?)
>
>- last action scene w/ joker left me looking for more, and i
>thought it was kinda improbable that batman can tear through
>swat teams hand to hand but a psycho with a steel pipe, he
>gets pinned to the ground?


in the comics, especially batman issue #1 when the joker was 1st introduced, it was said that the joker HAS incredible strength, in spite of his size, and can even match up with batman in hand to hand combat (even though the joker never plays fair), so they did have that right

>
>- while joker was incredibly acted, i would have liked to see
>more depth into joker, maybe an origin recap? i felt the
>slightest bit shortchanged that all we got out of the joker
>was pure nihilism/anarchy, but is that the best we can get out
>of the joker???


once again, in the comics, the joker HAS no origin...now there's a graphic novel called "the killing joke" that supposely be the joker's origin, but even with that the joker isn't "exactly sure"....hence why everytime in the movie whenever he tells a story about his past it's always a different story....

also, the joker isn't suppose to be the character arc for this picture, harvey dent was...the joker is suppose to be the chaos that provokes this character arc

  

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47. "just got back"
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this movie was amazing. can't wait for imax. can't wait for the dvd

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49. "Initial reactions: Heath Ledger IS this movie."
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Pros:
- Heath Ledger makes the film, period. His performance is better than the hype. This is one that folks are gonna be talking about for a while. Batman gets a worthy villain, and he alone elevates the film way past Batman Begins.
- Despite the greatness of his performance, he doesn't "steal" the film per se. Bale is clearly having a good time, Eckhart does a terrific job with a role that could've easily become corny, and...
- THE RACHEL DAWES SHIT DIDN'T SUCK! Saints be praised. Put a good actress on your screen, and good things happen.
- This film is much more fun than the first. The theater laughed many times, in all the right places. They cheered for the action. They gasped aloud at the appropriate times. It's very fun, and should be a hit of bigger proportions than any of us expect imo.
- While the film is violent, I was relieved that some of the more grotesque violence was left implied. It's extremely intense, and the Joker is quite sadistic, but you never get close to R-rated violence. In fact, the film is mostly bloodless to my recollection.
- Did I mention how terrific Heath Ledger is?

Cons:
- The film is too long, by about 15 minutes. I definitely would've cut a trip to Hong Kong which feels out of place--while the sequence is cool, at the end of the film I was wishing they'd jiggered with the plot a bit in order to cut it in favor of having a more streamlined film. Also in terms of length...
- There are far too many speeches in this film, speeches about what a hero is, what the world needs a hero to be, blah blah blah. I found them gratuitous, and after awhile I was rolling my eyes like I do whenever Aunt May talks about similar subject matter in the Spider-Man flicks. The ground has been covered in the flick, and is plenty clear to an intelligent audience member (even an average audience member)-- we don't need multiple corny speeches on the matter.
- I'm still wishy-washy on Bale's Growl Voice. It's fine when he's trying to intimidate, but when he's delivering sappy speeches on what a hero should be in this city, I wanted so badly to give him a throat lozenge.
- *SLIGHT SPOILER, SO DO NOT READ* They need to not recast the Joker. They need to find a way to let him go into the night. It's a shame, but no one's gonna top that. No one. *SPOILER OVER*


Conclusion:
Dope flick. Best Batman flick. Legendary Ledger performance. Right now, I'd put it at #2 or #3 on the best comic films of all time. Maybe it doesn't match the hype, but Ledger certainly does, it'll be a colossal moneymaker, and it's a good time at the theater.

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51. "In WHAT way is X-Men 2 seeing this film?"
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I'm not going to argue you with you, b/c it seems your mind is made up, but I'm curious.

Assuming X-2 is holding that top spot....HOW?

  

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55. "It's the difference between flawless and not flawless."
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X2 is as perfectly executed as a comic film has been. If you prefer The Dark Knight's tone to X2's, that's cool, I'm sure you would think it's the best ever. But in terms of sheer execution, of the perfect blend of special effects, performance, and storytelling? X2 has it. The Dark Knight may have better performances, but I'm not convinced that the execution is better.

The Dark Knight is much closer to X2 than Batman Begins. Maybe in time it'll grow to pass X2 in my book. But it's not flawless, and X2 is damn close to flawless, so for one to say Dark Knight is "better" comes down to the preference of the tone and style, or perhaps a reward for the ambitiousness of Nolan's vision. Which is fine and totally acceptable.

I think this is the best "dark" comic book film of all time. It's certainly the closest to toeing that line between action-packed blockbuster and gritty thriller. The sad thing is, I don't think we'll ever get a better Christian Bale Batman than this one, because he'll never face an adversary that comes CLOSE to the level of Ledger's Joker. So it's downhill from here.


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60. "I do agree that he needs a lozenge"
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The voice was cringe-worthy. I think I read in some review that Batman is using a voice modulator but I don't remember that being established in either movie. They could have addressed/handled it better, perhaps even with someone comically offering him a lozenge.

I see your point on the China stuff, but when tied in with all the other 9/11 references it's a perfect example of the extremes that people will go to when pushed in a corner. I looked at it like rendition. That may or may not have been Nolan's point, but it works for me and gives the scene some weight.

I also think that they need to hang it up after this one. This is not going to be ROTK. This is Godfather III, ROTJ territory they're about to enter. It won't be terrible, but the bar has just been set too high. I'm not seeing the supposed open-endedness in this flick. I thought it had a nice little bow on it.

But it's going to make so much money and they've already got everyone (the actors at least) locked into 3 films. So we'll probably get another one. I just hope Nolan moves on b/c there's nothing left to do here. Catwoman? Killer Croc? Riddler? None of those cats are going to bring to the table what Joker did.

I can't say I wouldn't be interested in a future Nolan project, but I wouldn't be "hopeful" that it could be good, save for a literal adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns or a Superman v. Batman movie.

  

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138. "I thought it was fine. How else could he have done it?"
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It was done in the most realistic way possible.

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104. "i have a hard time agreeing with your "flawless" viewpoint"
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i mean i understand what you are saying, but then do you also feel that the 72 Dolphins are the greatest football team of all time, since they exectued perfectly and won every single game that year? you mean to tell me that they would have been other great teams like the 90s cowboys, 80s 49ers, 85 bears, etc... ?

I do agree that out of all the superhero movies, that X-Men 2 probably had the absolute least flaws you could find, but IMO I think the high points of The Dark Knight overcomes the small flaws and surpasses the lack of flaws that X-Men 2 had.

Personally the only flaws I found in The Dark Knight was that it was long (about 10-15 minutes as you said) and that Rachel Dawes looked a little older than she should have. I think the part was well played, but they should have made her look younger. I dont mind the voice of Batman, because Bruce has to conceal his identity as much as possible. if he talked in his normal voice, someone familiar with Bruce might be able to figure out that he is also Batman.

  

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117. "You're entitled to your opinion"
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but I disagree with the basis of your contention. A movie can be flawless and still be weaker than a movie with flaws. X2 was a nicely told story with cool characters, fun action sequences and standard acting (even though Halle was horrible). That, I guess in your opinion makes it flawless and better than all the other comic book movies. The reason I disagree is because TDK is much more ambitious in everything it does as compared to x2 (the writing, symbolism, acting, character development, etc.). So while it misses at points, it's still at a higher level than X2 because it has a higher ceiling if that makes any sense. It's like shooting for an 80 on a test and getting that 80 as opposed to shooting for a 100 and getting a 90. TDK is the latter.

And honestly, this is coming from an x-men head.

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118. "I disagree with your disagreement. X2 only shoots for an 80??"
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Dude, the first scene alone is above an 80. C'mon fam.

I understand TDK is more ambitious. But to me, X2 has just as much ambition in its own right. It might not be going for "darkness" the way TDK is, but it's equally as hard to pull off a perfectly executed comic-y film without it feeling too corny, or busy, or cluttered, or et cetera. You can't just dismiss X2 so simply (although I feel you won't be the only one, so it's not your fault).

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122. "Longo, your X2 love is as irrational and deep as my BB/TDK love"
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so I have to respect that.

You're an oak when it comes to X2.

You're still wrong.

But I respect that you don't waver.

You're giving TDK as much props as possible without giving up that number 1 spot.

I chalk this up to subjective, personal preference.

You're still wrong though.

  

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124. "I'm willing to debate this. Where are the flaws in X2?"
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Aside from the fact that it's more fantastical in nature and not dark and gritty like Batman Begins/The Dark Knight.

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431. "RE: I'm willing to debate this. Where are the flaws in X2?"
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acting is not as good. storyline is not as good. less humor, to name a few.

these may not neccesarily be flaws, but they are areas in which TDK definitley is superior.

  

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141. "RE: I disagree with your disagreement. X2 only shoots for an 80??"
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>Dude, the first scene alone is above an 80. C'mon fam.

The first scene was great. After that, not so much. I mean it's a solid flick but it's just that, solid. The acting from the cast in TDK alone make it = to x2 for me. That's how much I disliked Halle and Zippo the angry flame guy. X2's story was nice and simple. TDK attempted to do more, rushed it a bit in the last 20 mins, but that flaw doesn't ruin the other 2 hrs that were excellent. And it being dark has little to do with why I liked it. TDK wanted to be more than just a comic book movie and they succeeded at that.



You can't just
>dismiss X2 so simply (although I feel you won't be the only
>one, so it's not your fault).

I'm not selling it short. I mean, when I first saw it I thought it was the best comic book movie that I'd seen up to that point. Then I saw Batman Begins, Ironman, and TDK. I'm just saying that X2 aimed at being a good comic book movie and it succeeded. TDK aimed at being a great movie. And I think it suceeded. Although I am going to see it again, and I may feel differently afterwards. But I doubt that.

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152. " 1st scene of TDK >>> 1st scene of X2"
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>Dude, the first scene alone is above an 80. C'mon fam.
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202. "Nope. It was definitely great... but not as great."
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137. "smh... you on that maxxx/r. kelly type shit with X2, fam"
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but you already know what I think of it, so there's no point in going there again.
As for TDK, I believe it is the best comic book movie of all time, beating out Begins, Sin City, & Iron Man.

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324. "X2? Really?"
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Is this some sort of inside PTP joke I'm not privy to?

Somebody fill me in. Inbox if necessary.


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428. "he enjoys his irrational attachment to X2. let him have his fun"
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67. "only con I agree with is the running time."
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And Rachel Dawes was a really good character in this movie.

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68. "and you forgot to give Oldman his props."
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70. "True. Oldman has been fantastic in both of the flicks."
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130. "^^^^ was wrong"
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177. "leave hong kong, axe the"
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batman copycats and scarecrow.

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199. "Not a bad idea either."
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289. "I'd agree, if not for this reason;"
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if you axe the Batman copybats then you don't get that scene where everyone in the theater jumped, with the fake dead Batman.

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290. "And you also completely throw out the set up for the (SPOILER)"
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sonar stuff at the end, which I didn't necessarily dig on, but whatever
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416. "i hated the sonar thing"
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cool for the hong kong office, at the end? wackness. it felt like a commerical for something. they could have had batman hitting random floors and it still would have made sense.

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50. "Tonight @ 9:30. And Tues @ 8 in IMAX. The hardest part...."
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Im so hype I cant even work... now Im just trying to avoid any spoilers for the next few hours. LOL!

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52. "If Heath were alive, would his performance be AS good??"
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53. "I honestly did not pay attention to the fact that I was watching Heath....."
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...he was The Joker, son.

Hell of a swan song, though...

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56. "Agreed. And I looked HARD to try to see Heath behind that makeup."
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Heath was not on that screen. I will never, ever watch that movie and see the dude from Brokeback Mountain or A Knight's Tale. Never, ever, ever.

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58. "definitely"
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That was just a fun, sadistic, evil, crazy performance. He was hysterical and terrifying and fucking perfect.

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112. "i saw him......"
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with his makeup off.

no spoiler.

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127. "Well, he was still made up in that scene, but yeah."
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274. "I agree..."
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the second i saw his face, that dude was the joker. i didn't think at all about the fact that it was heath ledger (RIP) playing the joker. I WAS WATCHING THE JOKER!!!

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63. "at work"
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Most of the people are in love with Tim Burtons version. I told them this version is great too, but alot more darker and in many ways, fun. They claim due to Heath Ledgers death people will see it because this is his last film. I told them don't see it because it's his last film, see it because it's a great and entertaining film!!





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120. "All bullshit aside, hell yes"
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it's such an engaging performance

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157. "I think people still would have given him props"
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His performance was great! Dead or alive he would be the star of the movie. However, I think some people are going overboard with their praise because of his death.



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414. "RE: I think people still would have given him props"
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>His performance was great! Dead or alive he would be the star
>of the movie. However, I think some people are going overboard
>with their praise because of his death.
>
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I dunno, dawg. That was a great theatrical performance. Rare do you ever see somebody get so into a character that you can't tell one from the other.

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277. "YES"
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283. "Yes. Yes, it would."
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301. "just for the record, I wasnt bein a dick, this was a serious question"
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302. "yes"
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54. "Mercy!"
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This flick was so ridiculously good. I saw it at the Uptown @ 3:30 this morning. Finally a Batman series I can believe in.

The Hong Kong kidknappin' was just legendary...

  

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57. "Excellent"
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The best comic book movie I've seen and definitely worthy of the hype. I knew Ledger was gonna kill this role when the announced him as the Joker. From the action scenes, the cinematography, the cast and the storyline; everything was dope. I'll see it again on Imax.

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59. "there's no way in hell that was the real ending"
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i have a feeling the ending would have been different if heath ledger never died. Or maybe they planned on making multiple movies with the joker, but now theyre gonna have to fix that up somehow if they do another movie

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77. "RE: there's no way in hell that was the real ending"
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i think it was the way they intended.
it would have set up for other joker movies like you mentioned, with joker escaping from Arkham Asylum. imo

  

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131. "eh they were all done with shooting when he died"
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they didnt change it

  

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153. "it's suppose to be a trilogy"
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the joker was suppose to be in the 3rd one, but because of heath's death, the nolan brothers said they have to rewrite the 3rd story....

  

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408. "RE: there's no way in hell that was the real ending"
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All they have to do is throw in a one-word explanation. "Oh, good thing the Joker's locked up at Arkham" or "Good thing the Joker's dead"...

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61. "I'm kinda torn here."
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It's an excellent film. Very good.
But I see "Batman" and think DCU.

If WB/DC really wanna do DCU movies like Marvel is in the midst of doing with "Iron Man" and "Hulk" and 'nem, then they're gonna have to introduce a whole different Batman... or seriously darken up their other properties, which I don't see happening.

Nolan's Batman would have to be an isolated version, and I'm actually good with that.

  

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154. "Not necessarily"
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I understand what your saying, but Batman and Gotham are suppose to be darker and grimier than Metropolis, Keystone, or Coastal City. I don't think they have to darken their other properties too much. Could you have seen Batman in Super Sucks....I mean Superman Returns?


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62. "this'll probably be at like 300+ when i get back on sunday"
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345. "you are correct, sir"
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. . .
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64. "It was amazing."
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Ledger was fucking incredible. As mentioned, he surpasses the hype about his performance. Not for one minute do you think it's Heath Ledger on the screen. He completely disappears into the role - who knows if he ever came out of it.

I think it's pretty clear now that they at least wanted to leave open the option of bringing the Joker back in the next film, if not planned on it, despite what they've said in the aftermath of Heath's death.

I kind of hope that they don't make a sequel now. i'm not sure what villain they could use that would justify another film. Using Two-Face up in this one seemed kind of short-sighted in terms of the franchise, but it made this a much better film, so I can definitely live with it.

  

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102. "who knows if he ever came out of it......."
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that's the feeling I get concerning the circumstances of his expiration .....

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66. "It's sad to think we won't see Ledger again as the Joker."
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That was simply amazing.

  

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69. "Dear Longo,"
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You are tripping. It's the best comic movie, period. I have never felt that X2 was flawless.

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71. "Tripping?"
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I don't see how me not immediately dubbing it the King of Comic Flicks is "tripping." The fact that I immediately deemed it 2nd or 3rd less than 12 hours after seeing it should tell you how highly I think of the film.

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85. "with nowhere to unpack"
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not in your assessment of Dark Knight, but in your assessment of X2. maybe I need to watch it again.

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97. "Longo, what is your top 5?"
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what are is the other one, besides X-2 that you would put ahead of TDK?

  

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108. "Folks'll hate, but I would consider putting..."
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...Iron Man ahead.

PTP will clearly explode, but factoring in that it's an origin film (the best of all origin films, really), and it's a character that the general public isn't really as favorable with as they are with the X-Men or Spider-Man or Batman... I thought they hit it out of the park.

It's not perfect, and it's too soon. I'm not sure which would be ahead at this point. I'd rank my excitement leaving the theaters as (1) Heath Ledger's performance, (2) the whole Iron Man film, (3) the whole Dark Knight film. I'm just not certain which I'd put ahead, hence the 2nd or 3rd comment.

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132. "iron man is less flawed than x2 IMO"
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x2 was great and fun and changed the way comicbook movies were treated and looked at but come on.. the way they handled storm alone makes it flawed as hell.

ive said it before and ill say it again. the only way to do xmen justice would be with a tv show where you can spend time developing all the characters.

in the movie franchise they had to pick certain ones and leave the others look like filler

iron man on the other hand was damn near perfect.

  

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381. "nah no hate"
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>...Iron Man ahead.
>
>PTP will clearly explode, but factoring in that it's an origin
>film (the best of all origin films, really), and it's a
>character that the general public isn't really as favorable
>with as they are with the X-Men or Spider-Man or Batman... I
>thought they hit it out of the park.
>
>It's not perfect, and it's too soon. I'm not sure which would
>be ahead at this point. I'd rank my excitement leaving the
>theaters as (1) Heath Ledger's performance, (2) the whole Iron
>Man film, (3) the whole Dark Knight film. I'm just not certain
>which I'd put ahead, hence the 2nd or 3rd comment.



i would still put iron man ahead
batman became backseat in this movie and couldn't be helped
i wonder if they called it The Joker if it would help
it really was all about heath he was simply performing on a different level and it just messes up the curve
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72. "...i really don't know what to say..."
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i'm speechless. "amazing film" doesn't do it justice...

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73. "6am imax tix"
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ima be cranky as hell
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90. "LET'S PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACEEEUH!!!!"
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74. "favorite shot: (spolier)"
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if i could get a still of joker (nurse disguise intact) leaving the hospital as it partially explodes, with the 'Emergency' word embezzled in the background. that shot was excellent

  

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334. "My God, I laughed my ass off during that bit with the explosions."
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337. "thats one of those shots you have to nail, too"
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theres no 2nd take, so Heath couldnt fuck up... but that was perfect all around.

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367. "They probably did it with compositing and CGI..."
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For safety sake and financially.

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393. "i doubt it"
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looked legit to me.

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411. "I think it looks legit too, but the film has really good CGI"
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512. "chris nolan in an interview said it was real"
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he's not a huge fan of CGI and only uses it when he have no other choice

plus, it doesn't cost that much to safely implode a building, which is basically whut they did....

  

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76. "Morgan Freeman killed all his scenes (spoiler)"
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I was rolling when he broke the snitch down.

  

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78. "that was funny"
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81. "Let me get this straight..."
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Snitch: Uh you can just go ahead & keep these

  

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79. "5 Aces Up...Joker's Wild. The Nolan/Pfister combo beasts again"
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Um I had seen the opening sequence online but seeing it on the big screen was like watching it for the 1st time. I'm pretty sure I'll feel the same way again when I watch it via IMAX.

This movie reminded me of several other movies that I hold in high regards. The Joker's games reminded me of Se7en. The Harvey Dent delivery in the SWAT van sequence reminded me of Heat. And I kept thinking whether or not Chigurh or The Joker was the illest villain I've seen in recent memory. When he fucked up old dude with the pencil, me & the 2 kids I took looked at each other on some, "Ohhhh we're in store for some shit now!"

The Batman growl certainly seems to not fit at times, but when it does, I fucking love it. Especially the one-liners like, "...then you're gonna love me", "I'm counting on it" (when he drops Sal like a bad habit then just screams on his ass on the ground) & "No...but I know how you got these ones" (when Joker asks him about the scars). Even the line he gives about not wearing hockey gear at the begining was great. I would've liked to see a little more from the Scarecrow there tho. It seems like he was kinda thrown in for fans like mines sake who were pissed with the way he went out in Begins. And was it just me or did that not sound like Cillian's voice behind the mask? No matter tho. I did like seeing Nicky Kaat for a quick sec.

This movie could've been titled The Killing Joke & it would've still fit. I mean the Joker is just constantly killin or threatening to kill throughout the whole thing & Nolan & the actors do a wonderful job making you care for everyone involved. EVEN D-BO!!! That's right muthafuckas I said D...BO! Nigga went from the Bully in Friday to a criminal with a heart of gold. Much daps there.

The running time goes by really quick as the pace of the movie is perfect. It only felt a little long towards the end. I think there was another segment in Hong Kong that didn't get used due to some shooting location conflict but I still like what was done there. The sonar shit was a trip & kinda reminded me of Daredevil. The batpod is tops on my wishlist. I've gotta think about the movie some more & come back later because there was so much goin on from start to finish & I had a rowdy but cool audience so it was hard to take it all in. I can't wait to see it again tho.

  

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156. "RE: 5 Aces Up...Joker's Wild. The Nolan/Pfister combo beasts again"
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i felt the joker was getting his JIGSAW on...forgive me, but the SAW series is my guilty pleasure...

anton chigurh & harvey dent GOT to be related

  

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284. "That's what I thought of when that sequence happened (SPOILERS)"
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I was thinking, "yo, this is dope, but if it were in a Saw movie we'd shit all over it... prolly because they'd find a way to needlessly add a lot of rust, vomit, human entrails, and blood into the Saw sequence..."

Then I thought of Sophie's Choice with the scene with Two-Face and the Gordons...
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464. "Good call on the Saw reference"
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158. "it should of been called "the long halloween"-dent"
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>This movie could've been titled The Killing Joke & it would've
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80. "It all comes together so powerfully....words can't even truly justify it"
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I had to sit in the theater from 11:10 to midnight with a bunch of teenagers trying too hard to act funny/cool while hitting beach balls throughout the crowd....very white but it was worth the wait.

First off, Heath as the Joker is a fucking transcendent performance that cannot be matched by anyone....with that in mind, Im not sure what will happen if their is another sequel but they need to let the Joker go....and you wonder if the ending would have been changed (ie Two-Face's death) if Heath's fate would have been known earlier. The Joker played the insane genius role like I have never seen before, I mean you have to see it to believe it. It only makes Heath's passing that much more tragic because my god, can you imagine what they could have done with The Joker down the line. It was an all-encompassing performance, and duke IS The Joker, it's amazing.

Anyways, the pacing is brilliant, the cinematography is great, and the atmosphere is just thrilling. The score works very very well, and the performances, as expected, are fucking excellent. The new tech development and usage was fucking great....cotdamn, some of that shit was wild, particularly the end of the Hong Kong scene and the BatPod....any scene with the BatPod was ridiculous.

Eckhart plays his role extremely well w/o giving off any sense of corniness, Oldman is still perfect as Detective/Commish Gordon, Bale continues to impress, Michael Caine is absolutely brilliant(he imo is the most powerful and telling character outside of The Joker, far too slept on), Freeman delivers again, and then Maggie adds a whole nother layer by making Rachel Dawes actually compelling.

Some flaws though imo: I felt like some of the hand-to-hand combat scenes were a bit too drawn out(esp in the final battle as he's going up the tower....we get it), we didn't need multiple speeches concerning endurance and it being darkest before the night(imo the most powerful words of wisdom came from Alfred)....they over-did hammering that theme home, and lastly(and probably my biggest complaint) is the final battle with Joker. It was a bit too simple in terms of just a hand-to-hand fight....but then again, it was really to draw Batman's attention away from Joker's ace in the hole so I guess I do understand it. Also, I don't like the Bat growl for extended sequences....it's solid for one-liners and intimidation, when duke has to actually be long-winded with that growl, I almost wanna giggle lol.

Did anyone else feel like Batman was almost invulnerable in this one? We saw him take so much damage in Batman Begins, and they made it a point to have scenes showing his damage and recovery....in this one, duke seemed superhuman or perhaps his tech just got better? But the character was def less human in that sense for whatever reason, you didn't really see any toll that the physical pain took on him....but then again, The Joker was waging psychological warfare so I can easily see how they wanted to focus on the emotional toll.

The ending came together so well with Batman making his decision of sacrifice.....it was a very powerful film. Hats off....and again, Heath Ledger as The Joker is a performance you will never forget.

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119. ""....very white but it was worth the wait." *dead*"
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LOL!!! now that was funny as hell.

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159. "i somewhut disagree at this one point"
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>
>Did anyone else feel like Batman was almost invulnerable in
>this one? We saw him take so much damage in Batman Begins,
>and they made it a point to have scenes showing his damage and
>recovery....in this one, duke seemed superhuman or perhaps his
>tech just got better? But the character was def less human in
>that sense for whatever reason, you didn't really see any toll
>that the physical pain took on him....but then again, The
>Joker was waging psychological warfare so I can easily see how
>they wanted to focus on the emotional toll.
>

because at the beginning he was showing his bruises and shown that he still ache hence wanting a new suit so it would better protect him.....hence why later on in the movie the impact doesn't take his toll as much

  

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166. "the hand to hand combat was definitely redundant/lacking"
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>Some flaws though imo: I felt like some of the hand-to-hand
>combat scenes were a bit too drawn out(esp in the final battle
>as he's going up the tower....we get it)

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82. "when Heath/Joker is in the police car with his head out the window"
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and most of the background noise is muted, was weird. was like he was just a boy having fun lol. even that one lil scene spoke volumes about the character, and bout how well Heath played it. he looked like a dog sticking his head out the window and enjoying the breeze hitting his face. was almost tear-inducing in a weird way, cos it makes u automatically think of the real world and Heath no longer being here. seriously, if you guys go see it again, take note of it. i think it's in the back-half of the film.

i dunno why, but that one little bit really stood out. and for SOME reason, tho i dunno wat, i felt like tearing up at one point or another.

was great when the film ended, EVERYONE in the imax theatre applauded. was fantastic.

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91. "possibly one of the greatest shots of Ledger ever"
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I'd include it in a tribute

  

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140. "Hell yeah!!!"
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There's just something really sublime about that whole scene that I can't explain. Even when I first saw that in the trailer I was kinda taken back by how stunning that imagery was.

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164. "found a picture of it:"
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http://host.trivialbeing.org/galleries/tdk-may4-second-dark-knight-trailer-screenshots/joker-cop-car-heath-ledger-snapshot20080504111707.jpg

beautiful.

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178. "i almost cried when"
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him and gordon were in the room... "alone"

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263. "its the little touches like this that make this movie so good"
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i loved how there was basically no sound in that scene too... it couldnt have been done any better and really said a lot about The Joker's character in just a matter of seconds.

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285. "Yeah, that's when it hit me that we wouldn't be seeing this dude in this"
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role again. And I think it hit the whole theater as well, because it got very quiet during that shot...
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399. "That was an excellent shot"
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It made the impact of the scene before that much powerful, especially with little to no sound.

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83. "on: The Bat Growl"
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I feel like dude sounds like Triple H when he does it, moreso in this than 'Begins', too. What's the deal with "The Bat Growl"?

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84. "it did almost become a sore point in the film"
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like, almost cringe-worthy. but once u just accept it, u get used to it. but it did seem like he made the voice way more deeper n growlier in this one.

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86. "about the actual score"
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I loved that LOOOOOOOOOONG guitar note they give when the Joker is building up towards something.

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87. "yup, I was hoping someone else would notice that as well"
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It was so uncomfortable yet dramatic....

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89. "oh hells ye. i thought i luvd the score for Batman Begins"
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this one kicks its ass. it felt like some kinda classic paranoid thriller score.

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96. "the score was sick. sooo good."
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160. "YES!!! THE FUCKIN' SCORE...right from the jump, too"
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everytime i hear that "errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" sound, i know something fucked up was about to happen

  

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403. "about bats' voice"
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isn't he supposed to be using a voice modifier so people can't ID his voice as bruce wayne's? that was my assumption, but i swear this was mentioned somewhere (perhaps in a making of special of the first flick? or an interview?). i always assumed that explained the bats/wayne vocal difference
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101. "The only weak part of the film, IMO...especially..."
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"If I bring him to you, will you make him talk?"

It just sounded uncomfortable and bad.

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103. "The bat growl just kills me I really really hate it"
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I cringe every time and often, in scenes that are suppose to be serious, I have to hold the laughter back because it is just so over-the-top bad.

That and the recasting of Rachel Dawes character. I mean, Maggie Gyllenhaal is a step up from Katie Holmes but I just hate in when movies recast characters.

  

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147. "I got a "thing" for Maggie, but I don't think she was fly in this."
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>I cringe every time and often, in scenes that are suppose to
>be serious, I have to hold the laughter back because it is
>just so over-the-top bad.
>
>That and the recasting of Rachel Dawes character. I mean,
>Maggie Gyllenhaal is a step up from Katie Holmes but I just
>hate in when movies recast characters.

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107. "Worse were his sensitive speeches. "This isn't who you are, Harvey.""
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"This city needs a hero, a white knight, someone who can take a stand without a mask, and" blah blah blah. Quit yer growlin.

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143. "The Bat Growl didn't bother me"
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in fact i didn't even pay it any attention.

  

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88. "HOLY FUCK!!!!!!! THAT SHIT WAS AMAZING!!!"
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i wish i could even recap whats going on through my mind right now. that shit was intense and i was pretty much on the edge of my seat the whole fucking time.

heath ledger, wow, what a performance doc, WHAT A PERFORMANCE!!!(c)bugs bunny

really well done and well worth the wait, im seeing this shit at least 3 more times.

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93. "Upon further thought..."
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...I don't think any of us can fully understand right now how this Ledger performance will be remembered. Think about it, this is a guy who, other than Brokeback Mountain, I'm Not There, and this, has not done a great deal of notable work. He's always been talented, and shown that spark, but I never in a million years thought Heath Ledger would be the Next Great Actor(c). It wasn't until Brokeback and his mumbling where people thought of him like that, and then for him to go out on this? Shit is like a rapper dying at his peak. We'll never know what he would've continued to do with his career, but he'll be remembered as one of the young great talents lost before their time forever. This film will cement his legacy. And when he wins the Oscar (YEP! I'm callin it now, sympathy plus brilliance equals gold man), this film will be that document folks go back to look at.

I was just so bewitched.

And we've seen a hundred folks play psychos. Good actors, too. That shit is not new under the sun. Everyone post-Hannibal has done the no-blinking, the speaking-softly, the quirky-characteristic murderer. It takes an extraordinary talent to make a psycho that doesn't make the audience think, "Wow, Heath is doing a great job! He looks really psychotic here!" Totally seamless work on display. Everyone else who plays a nutjob after this is gonna have a high fuckin watermark to try to climb to. Good luck, rest of the world, Heath Ledger ruined your chances at looking like a good villain.

And this comes a year after Anton Chigurh too! A year after I thought we'd seen the Classic Villain of this decade. These dudes are cut from the same cloth, brilliant, original portrayals of unpredictable, unstoppable forces of chaos.

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94. "The thing that blew me away..."
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just as much as the fact that it never even occurred that it was him he was so inside the character...was that every second he was on the screen, my eyes never left him. He was like...hypnotizing. A role hasn't done that to me in a long time. I think he achieved that feat even more than Bardem did in NCFOM.

  

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123. "He had me straight up mesmerized...."
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All his mannerisms, his movement, his speech....it's absolutely stunning how thoroughly he portrayed his version of The Joker.

I still cannot really explain just how all-encompassing that performance was....it's honestly like The Joker's role wasn't being acted out, but that actually WAS The Joker...you know what I mean? I'm at a loss for meaningful words right now lol.

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135. "when heath said he was keeping a 'dark diary' to prepare for the role"
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i dont think most ppl understood how serious that was
this guy shows that he really tried to breathe that character
seeing him play this role i dont think its weird at all that he mentioned not being able to sleep because the role had him thinking too much

  

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98. "On first viewing: Good, not great"
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I definitely felt the tension and was floored by alot of scenes, the performances were pretty good across the board (other than the Bat growl), and they did a nice job giving the Joker substance, but fuck, this movie is chaotic and I didn't feel totally moved at the end. It totally assaults your senses for 2 1/2 hours, it's kinda hard to grasp onto something to take away from it. And also, there is no clear climax. I like my movies with clear climaxes.

  

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106. "Cosign on the feelings of the climax."
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That might be a big reason why it felt so long to me. I tried to touch on it a tad *plugplugplug* in my blog review, *plugplugplug* but those last 15 minutes or so, maybe even longer than that, made me grow a bit weary. It was still cool... but yeah, I agree with what you're saying here.

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109. "I kinda felt that, too"
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but I'll take it over the weak end of Iron Man. At least this one held weight.

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111. "I'm not so sure tho."
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The weak ending of Iron Man (which was only *kinda* weak imo) might be preferrable to the clutter mixed in with multiple speeches about being a hero.

I didn't mind either ending, really. But the flaws weren't as glaring in the Iron Man finale... I was just left wishing he'd had a full battery for a knock-down-drag-out fight.

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212. "I don't think the ending would've felt like that"
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if it weren't two hours and 15 minutes into the movie.

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110. "It's clear"
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spoiler




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113. "Yes."
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Joker's upside-down scene. That was the apex of the movie.

  

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167. "but there are about three *would be* climaxes before that"
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404. "the climax was... spoilers"
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that the folks on the ferries decide not to blow each other up?

everything else is wrapping up after that.

not a traditional climax, sure, but i would say that was it. coulda been structured in a more traditional way, but nolan does it different. the whole movie is joker trying to create anarchy, in that one scene the folks of gotham choose civility and humanity. from that point forward, joker loses.

i did feel like the film went thru rewrites...the jim gordon death faking seemed a little rushed.


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405. "I read in an interview that Nolan said he takes his own last pass at a"
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99. "It's very good (spoilers)"
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Superior to Batman Begins for sure. Nolan is getting better with the action (the 18 Wheeler chase in particular) but these sequences still aren't being executed with the precision they should be.

Me thinks Katie Holmes didn't want to return just to be killed off. Either that or Nolan couldn't bear possibly having to recast that role for the third flick.

For me, the movie falls apart a bit once Dent becomes Two-Face. Nolan was just jamming too much plot in there and the whole cellphone sonar-thing was a bit lame.

Still, Bale and Ledger were great. Oldman gives the stand-out performance for me. He's kind of the heart and soul of the whole flick.

  

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161. "FISA critic!!!! (lol)"
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>
>the whole cellphone sonar-thing was a bit lame.
>

one man cannot have that much power, mr. bush!

  

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169. "that cell phone sonar was stolen from Daredevil"
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196. "i thought it was a slick way to get batman' eyes white"
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440. "That shit did look pretty tight. Like the purp-eyed ninjas in Begins"
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100. ""
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yeah, that was the dopers

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115. "Saw it this Wednesday (special screening). INSANE..."
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Nolan, Oldman , Bale did their thing. Heath, was on some OTHER shit.

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121. "It made $18 million just off of midnite shows?"
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Is this thing gonna do $200 just over the weekend?

  

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125. "It could. It's gonna be THAT big of a hit."
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128. "SICK....but...."
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why did Batman....



*SPOILER*




go to the "dark side" in the end? I thought that was some out of the blue shit and didn't add up. All of the sudden he's like yeah, fuck this, come get me coppers. GTFOOH!

Otherwise, great, if not-long-by-a-half-hour film.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

*Effasig*

  

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129. "You're kidding, right?"
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133. "pay attention!"
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he didn't WANT to go to the "dark side" he did it to save Harvey Dents legacy. People didn't know the whole story between Two-Face, The Joker, and Batman, so why not take the blame. People don't look at him as an hero but a vigilante.

  

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142. "You prolly slept through the last scenes. LOL *SPOILER*"
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Joker dressed his hostages up like clowns and his henchmen like hostages, and only Batman and Fox knew.
Everyone on the police force saw Batman stopping the SWAT teams from killing "Joker's men", reinforcing his appearance as an untrustworthy vigilante.

Plus, taking the wrap for Dent's crimes, just so his public image would never be tarnished was a further act of sacrifice.

I can see a third film playing off of Batman continuing to fight crime while being sought by both law enforcement and mob figure alike.

We never see Sal Maroni die.
Actually, we never see Dent die, either... Hmmm.

  

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162. "RE: You prolly slept through the last scenes. LOL *SPOILER*"
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well, the joker ain't dead either, nor the scarecrow for that matter...

  

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170. "were you napping? lol"
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first he was fighting the SWAT team because they were going after the hostages that the thought were the jokers men.

then at the end he's running from the cops after he basically sacrificed himself by telling gordon to pin the deaths on him to save dent's image so that hope didn't die in gotham along with dent. in fact, gordon spells it out for you as he is explaining it to his son why he's a "dark knight."

seriously, did you sleep through this or what?

lol

>why did Batman....
>
>
>
>*SPOILER*
>
>
>
>
>go to the "dark side" in the end? I thought that was some out
>of the blue shit and didn't add up. All of the sudden he's
>like yeah, fuck this, come get me coppers. GTFOOH!
>
>Otherwise, great, if not-long-by-a-half-hour film.

  

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370. "You're talking about when he's running to the Bat Cycle, right?"
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When he's just running through the containers?

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421. "LMAO"
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134. "gonna watch the 2nd time tomorrow."
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139. "I don't even know what to say... it was tight as hell"
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I was not disappointed. It topped Begins and all the talk about an Oscar for Heath is valid. Shit was flawless. This movie damn near had my dick hard for two and a half hours. Seriously though, I will definitely be seeing it again in IMAX. I am concerned about whether or not they'll make a sequel, it will all depend on how loud that ridiculous amount of money Warner Brothers throws at Nolan talks, because I don't think he can top this shit. I don't know if he will want to do another if he feels he can't make it as good as TDK.

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441. "There's high praise & then there's this"
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This
>movie damn near had my dick hard for two and a half hours.

LMAO. I liked to say I feel ya but I'll just say I dig that assesment.

>Seriously though, I will definitely be seeing it again in
>IMAX.

I'm pissed I'll have to wait till the wknd to do that. I'll probably have to check it out again at another theater till then.

  

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466. "LMAO"
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>This
>movie damn near had my dick hard for two and a half hours.
>Seriously though,

I can't say all that, but I was wide-eyed with awe damn near the entire movie....I was like a little boy at DisneyLand for the first time.

>I will definitely be seeing it again in
>IMAX.

Yup, seeing it tomm night actually....the 3 friends Im seeing it with are seeing it for the first time, Im hyped as fuck.

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144. "Ledger's Oscar is coming"
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He played The Joker to perfection. As far as the movie itself, this has to be one of the best films I've seen all year.

  

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146. "Nolan is the shit."
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I'm definitely seeing this in IMAX next time.

  

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148. "LOL - #3 on the IMDB top 250."
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149. "It's worse than ever!"
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Am I the only person who thought the press conference with the random phrases being yelled out sounded hilarious?

No more dead cops!

  

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443. "RE: It's worse than ever!"
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>Am I the only person who thought the press conference with
>the random phrases being yelled out sounded hilarious?

Naw. I was cracking up at that too

>No more dead cops!

  

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448. "Me and my boy were laughing at that for about 5 mins."
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We've been wearing that line out all weekend.

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150. "I know I'm in the minority but I like the Bat Growl"
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One of the things that has always bugged me about spider-man, and other super heroes with secret identities, is that nobody ever recognizes their voice. So I kinda dug the whole voice thing.

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155. "I agree..."
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It bothered me at first, but then it makes complete sense when you really think about it.

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163. "can we please clarify this: is Two-Face DEAD or not?"
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cos my understanding of it was, he was just passed out on the floor and he would be the main villain for a possible third film (including The Riddler or whoever else is still around).

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165. "I LOVED Batman Begins, but here's what makes this better (spoilers)"
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Batman Begins told THE Batman story. i got a movie about Bruce Wayne embracing his destiny.

But, when he finally embraced it, the movie got a little fuzzy. shit got confusing to the average movie-goer. it was still awe-inspiring, but it wasnt without its faults. There was no villain to really truly fear or remember. Cillian and Liam killed it, but their characters were so beyond secondary to Bale's Wayne.


The Dark Knight gives us not one stunning portrayal of possibly the most sadistic villain ever, but it also gives an insightful look into a man who becomes a villain.

The Joker is the Joker from the first scene. there is no question of who he is.

But then we get this story of Harvey Dent, and we watch his sad decay into villain territory. It's such a believable transformation in the realm of fantasy.




Heath Ledger is The Dark Knight. Bale took a backseat on this one. He did his thing for a second time, but it was the Joker's movie to take; and he came through big time.

As Araqual mentioned above, the scene where Joker escapes from jail and is zig-zagging through traffic in the squad car, hanging out the window with his eyes close is simply one of the most breathtaking images ive ever seen captured on film. So many times during this movie i found myself thinking "this is Ledger's definition. he looks scared but ready to drift away from life in order to leave the world with this performance." all the while, he managed to be hilarious. his one-liners were delivered with the comedic timing and tone of a pro. just thrilling to watch all around.


i cant possibly see The Dark Knight not being my favourite superhero film ever. everything just worked. it was always easy to follow without feeling dumbed down. everything fit better that its predecessor.

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168. "was anybody else in this movie besides Heath Ledger?"
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I felt antsy waiting for the next Joker scene. sitting in a sold out theater, hearing people cringe one moment and laugh the next showed how brilliant Ledger was.

negatives:
- ran 20 minutes too long. I'm not sure what exactly could have been cut, but it felt more like 3 mini-movies put together instead of one sweeping arc.
- adding on to my first complaint, that the last half hour was the worst of the film also didn't help much.
- Rachel Dawes -- zzzz. Gyllenhaal wasn't much of an upgrade; the character itself is just lifeless.

positives:
- Heath Ledger was completely enthralling. I doubt anyone else will ever be able to play Joker on the screen again.
- the action set-ups were very clever and consistent with the comics...bank robbery, boat standoff, hospital threats, the 18-wheeler flipping, jail escape -- all of it was crafted perfectly.

and Frank, this is where we part ways with X2. I might watch X2 more over the next 10 years, but even with some flaws I now consider Dark Knight as the best comic book movie ever.

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173. "Yeah, I anticipated with them replacing katie holmes..."
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that the Dawes character was going to be much more fleshed out and better crafted. But basically what we got was just a good actress playing a boring, lifeless character instead of a bad actress playing a boring, lifeless character. Maggie elevated Dawes to serviceable, that's about it. Maybe that's the best anyone could do with the character. That was really one of my only complaints.

  

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378. "i agree here"
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>that the Dawes character was going to be much more fleshed
>out and better crafted. But basically what we got was just a
>good actress playing a boring, lifeless character instead of a
>bad actress playing a boring, lifeless character. Maggie
>elevated Dawes to serviceable, that's about it. Maybe that's
>the best anyone could do with the character. That was really
>one of my only complaints.

she's such a good actress
but her character bothered me for these reasons
and i simply could not admit that is was her
still can't really
maybe they(director/writer) cannot do female parts well?
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171. "anybody else bothered by these reviews saying"
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Dark Knight has elevated Batman *above* its comic book status?

as if the past several decades of Batman comics were all ZAP BOOM POW...

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172. "GOTDAMN HEATH LEDGER STOLE THIS MOVIE"
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174. ""how about a MAGIC trick?" - (C) Joker......"
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WOW....I mean just wow....
Just got back home.. its about 2am.

This movie was not perfect... but dang near.

Beback with more in the morning...I need some sleep.

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176. "bruce is shady!!! rachel actualy mattered!! gordon ascends!!"
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not sure what everyone else is talking about, acting as if nobody else existed outside of ledger's immaculate performance. there were so many smaller story lines weaving in and out of the movie and everything was tied up neatly if you ask me.

rachel herself was still boring and lifeless. but her presence added a lot of subtext to the bruce/dent dynamic, and even more so to the batman/dent dynamic.

bruce gave up rachel to save dent, because saving dent meant saving the city. but we also got a long, hard look at bruce's selfish nature- in supporting dent as both bruce and batman, he was not only giving gotham a "legit" hero, it's "white" knight if you will, he was also making a play for rachel.... which was basically screwing dent over in the process. granted he still kept his heroic intentions in the grand scheme of things, but i thought it was interesting that he was willing to fuck dent over in the love life regard.

bruce was conflicted all throughout, and at the end he chose to become the villain, an interesting tie up of the earlier dent comment- batman choosing. the comment obviously foreshadowed dents own turn, but batman choosing to uphold harvey's rep at the cost of further ruining his rapidly deteriorating status sorta drove the point home, especially after he was ready to ice the joker.

minus the joker, you already had a compelling movie. a pretty good super hero flick. you could have subbed out the joker with the mob itself, given eric roberts more screen time, had morioni do some of that dirty work and yuo have a worthy sequel.

but joker, of course, is the film's obvious high point. he turned this into an event and made everything else seem pedestrian. does the term "iconic" even do this one justice? heath turned a pretty good movie into one of the most compelling things we have ever seen on the big screen, superhero flicks be damned.

the car swerving scene itself will be the likely lasting first image. how many classic, side splitting, fucked up moments did he have though?

three men, two sharp sticks, and a tryout for the crew!! lol. throwing a stack of money at the chinese guys face. hilarious. the hospital? the first explosion was fine, but we saw just how sadistic duke was when he got frustrated and started pounding the button (that scene was amazing- the walk, the look on his face, the nurse shit...) and he WTC'd the place.

"i just want my phone call".

"watch this pencil disappear"

there were just too many moments, too many one liners, too many mannerisms, the way he spoke, walked, the psychology of the whole thing...

then the amazing score to boot.

were there any flaws big enough to reduce this to a "pretty good" movie and not a GREAT one? is it too much to call this a masterpiece? om the whole? without heath, it's a good movie. with him this shit was briliant, beautiful, compelling, epic, etc...... i say no. the lame sonar nonsense (cool as a gadget in china, annoying at the end with the machine) and two face getting a little cheesy with the coin flip like 5 times.

speaking of whom, i say dent/two face performance was every bit as vital as the jokers in terms of the story. he was the glue, the common denominator, the 6 degrees at the center of it all.

great flick.

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181. "i believe you are wrong"
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he did not give up rachel. i believe when gordon asked who he was going to save he said rachel. when he kicked open the door i believe he was surprised that it was dent. i got the impression that the joker purposely switched the addresses on him knowing that he was bruce wayne and was egging him on in the interrogation room.

>rachel herself was still boring and lifeless. but her presence
>added a lot of subtext to the bruce/dent dynamic, and even
>more so to the batman/dent dynamic.
>
>bruce gave up rachel to save dent, because saving dent meant
>saving the city. but we also got a long, hard look at bruce's
>selfish nature- in supporting dent as both bruce and batman,
>he was not only giving gotham a "legit" hero, it's "white"
>knight if you will, he was also making a play for rachel....
>which was basically screwing dent over in the process. granted
>he still kept his heroic intentions in the grand scheme of
>things, but i thought it was interesting that he was willing
>to fuck dent over in the love life regard.

  

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190. "at first..."
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I thought Batman chooses Dent, but as the scene went on, you have the impression that The Joker tricked him purposely because when I recalled, The Joker pulled Batman card out about Rachel, claiming there was something between them.



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197. "joker PURPOSELY gave him the wrong address"
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he knew that batman was emotionally attached to rachel, hence him switching up the address....an EXTREMELY sick joke

it's interesting, but i knew this movie would be about duality themes, but there's alot of "chance" themes in this movie as well, and not just with

the most telling being the ferry and the chance on if the people of gotham is actually instinctively good or evil

  

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267. "that's what i said"
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i was clarifying for ^^^^

>he knew that batman was emotionally attached to rachel, hence
>him switching up the address....an EXTREMELY sick joke
>
>it's interesting, but i knew this movie would be about duality
>themes, but there's alot of "chance" themes in this movie as
>well, and not just with
>
>the most telling being the ferry and the chance on if the
>people of gotham is actually instinctively good or evil
>
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211. "he chose Rachel. Joker gave him the opposite address."
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217. "But it's really not clear. They messed that part up."
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I "think" Joker said Harvey's address first and then hers. With the first one being 250 something.

Batman says he's going for Rachel, and you hear Gordon in the background repeating that 250 something address, meaning the cops think they're going for Harvey.

But that's after two viewings and me trying to remember. The movie didn't make it clear enough.

1) Batman didn't look surprised at all. And maybe that reaction is on the cutting room floor. He just kinda goes in and grabs dude. Any momentary pause people are picking up on (I don't see it) could just as easily be Batman visually taking in the bomb setup.

2) If the Joker did trick them, then why didn't they tell Harvey that? All this apologizing and watching your kids get assaulted. Just be like "dude we sent our best man to get your chick, he gave us the wrong address." Gordon DID kinda have something to apologize for because he didn't listen to Dent about the dirty cops, but Batman, when given the opportunity to explain what happened, talks about how the Joker wanted to prove a point or something about the best of us being vulnerable yadda yadda yadda. He doesn't mention getting tricked at all.

3) If it was a big joke, then you gotta give a scene or some dialogue with the Joker wallowing in satisfaction. He notes that he sees a connection between Rachel and Bats but he never gives any later indication that he tried to trick anybody.

4) It doesn't fit with Joker's M.O. in the film. He straight up gave people horrible choices, but they were honest choices, "fair" choices if you will. If the M&A lawyer had been shot, maybe the hospital wouldn't have gone up. If they'd flipped the switch on the boats, that other boat probably woulda been blown up. The only time he "tricked" anyone was with the SWAT team. But that wasn't really a difficult choice for them to make at all. Of course they were going to shoot the guys that appeared to be criminals.

That bit with the addresses and Gordon in the background is the key. It probably explains it, but it's a VERY quick moment. They could have handled this better and they probably did in the 3 hour cut.

  

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219. "I don't think you payed attention to Joker."
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>
>3) If it was a big joke, then you gotta give a scene or some
>dialogue with the Joker wallowing in satisfaction.

From jump, you know Joker is a liar. He tells the story of his scars twice and gives two different stories. He tells Harvey that he doesn't really have a plan, but we know he does, because he always stays one step ahead of Batman, and we know he DID have a goal, which was to drive Bats or Dent nuts. We didn't need another scene to make that point.

>4) It doesn't fit with Joker's M.O. in the film. He straight
>up gave people horrible choices, but they were honest choices,
>"fair" choices if you will.

WHAT?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHA. Yer crazy. The SWAT setup. Hell OFF TOP we see Joker killing his whole squad to get all the money, even though we know he doesn't give a crap about money. You've missed the whole point about Joker. Joker is the same type dude that Alfred told the story about from Burma. He just wanted to watch the world burn. No rules, fairness, and no honesty goes with that. Matter of fact, the point that Joker has no rules kinda gets beat into us. I don't know where you're seeing what you're seeing.


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226. "I just don't think we should take the CHAOS thing to extremes."
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>
>>
>>3) If it was a big joke, then you gotta give a scene or some
>>dialogue with the Joker wallowing in satisfaction.
>
>From jump, you know Joker is a liar. He tells the story of his
>scars twice and gives two different stories. He tells Harvey
>that he doesn't really have a plan, but we know he does,
>because he always stays one step ahead of Batman, and we know
>he DID have a goal, which was to drive Bats or Dent nuts. We
>didn't need another scene to make that point.


I'll agree to disagree here. I think a scene, even a SMALL scene, with dude saying "Gotcha" would have been a nice touch. It didn't even have to be by Joker. Some acknowledgement by Bats/Gordon that he tricked him would have sufficed. Hell, Gordon acknowledged he got GOT by noting that the Joker wanted to be arrested all along.




>>4) It doesn't fit with Joker's M.O. in the film. He straight
>>up gave people horrible choices, but they were honest
>choices,
>>"fair" choices if you will.
>
>WHAT?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHA. Yer crazy. The SWAT setup. Hell OFF
>TOP we see Joker killing his whole squad to get all the money,
>even though we know he doesn't give a crap about money. You've
>missed the whole point about Joker. Joker is the same type
>dude that Alfred told the story about from Burma. He just
>wanted to watch the world burn. No rules, fairness, and no
>honesty goes with that. Matter of fact, the point that Joker
>has no rules kinda gets beat into us. I don't know where
>you're seeing what you're seeing.
>


I'm saying the SWAT setup was different than the boat setup or the rachel/harvey set up. In the latter two he's forcing people to make a JACKED up decision. But it's a real decision (as far as we know). He dies or she dies. You die or they die.

With the SWAT situation, there was NO decision for the cops to make. Hostages v. Killers ain't a choice. You're going to choose hostages every time. That's why he left the windows WIDE open.

So I get what you're saying, that he's not above deceit. I just think the race against the clock set ups were fundamentally different than the SWAT one. And it kind of cheapens the Rachel/Harvey thing if he's not giving them the right addresses. If he wants to make a point by forcing people into horrible situations, then force them into a horrible situation. You kinda let folks off the hook if you're really just infinitely chaotic.

Although I will say that it does fit with other interpretations of the Joker where he says he's gonna kill someone at midnight and they've been dead by lunchtime.

So I'm not saying you're wrong or anything. It just wasn't completely clear and I heard more than a few people exiting the movie confused about it.

  

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235. "being that the joker is an anarchist....chaos to the extreme WAS the poi..."
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the joker had this psycological belief that all people are instinctively corrupted and rules were created to keep them civil

he believes that rules are made to be broken and nobody should live by rules, and ANYONE can cross the line...which is why he was so intrigued with batman because batman is the MOST DISCIPLINED person ever even when he "appears" like he's crossing the line...

the entire movie was a physical debate on the goodness vs. wickedness of humanity...

  

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237. "well, I'm watching the scene now. Joker LIED."
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He says Harvey's at 250 52nd Street.

Bat's says he's going for Rachel.

Gordon tells his cops they're going for Harvey. Then tells them 250 52nd Street.

And, to Nolan's credit, he did try to make it clear because he mentioned it TWICE. On the way to rescue Harvey, Gordon's on the radio, telling all units to go to 250 52nd Street.

So there goes my theory on the Joker. That bastard, lol.

Bats doesn't look surprised at all though. You barely even see his face before they cut back to Rachel's radio. When they cut back Batman is pulling Harvey out of the room. That's it.

  

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238. "nah, homey."
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He wanted Rachel to die, because that would help Dent go nuts. If Dent died, Joker didn't further his goal. Dent would become a martyr. As such, he knew Bats would go for Rachel. That's why he flipped the addys.

The SWAT was not a clear choice, either. He freakin dressed the hostages as the criminals, and vice versa. You're completely missing that, NO, he never have these people a fair chance to figure their way out. You're seeing shit that isn't there, man. He set it up so the cops would kill the hostages.

He didn't play fair, and it was fairly obvious. I don't think we needed a big "GOTCHA" scene to drive the point home further. At that point I think they'd be insulting the audience's intelligence.

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246. "you're right"
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>
>The SWAT was not a clear choice, either. He freakin dressed
>the hostages as the criminals, and vice versa. You're
>completely missing that, NO, he never have these people a fair
>chance to figure their way out. You're seeing shit that isn't
>there, man. He set it up so the cops would kill the hostages.
>

I'm not missing that. I'm saying that's what made it different than what I THOUGHT, at first, that the other two scenarios were about.
But you're right, all three games were rigged. He was clearly ready to blow up both boats. He clearly lied about the respective locations of Harvey and Rachel. And he made the hostages switch clothes.

That bastard, lol.



  

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294. "you know what's awesome to me? It's an assumption"
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but I BET you that the detonators on the boats were actually rigged to blow up the same boat that threw the switch, as in if the criminals tried to blow up the civilians, they'd actually blow themselves up. Then you've got just as many bodies, AND innocent people get blamed for the deaths. Or vice versa.

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308. "I was thinking the same thing!!!!!"
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>but I BET you that the detonators on the boats were actually
>rigged to blow up the same boat that threw the switch, as in
>if the criminals tried to blow up the civilians, they'd
>actually blow themselves up. Then you've got just as many
>bodies, AND innocent people get blamed for the deaths. Or vice
>versa.

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400. "Same Here"
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>>but I BET you that the detonators on the boats were
>actually
>>rigged to blow up the same boat that threw the switch, as in
>>if the criminals tried to blow up the civilians, they'd
>>actually blow themselves up. Then you've got just as many
>>bodies, AND innocent people get blamed for the deaths. Or
>vice
>>versa.
>

And on a side note, did anybody else start cracking up when Debo came on screen on the boat with those lines?

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303. "I also have an assumption"
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He placed Rachel waaaaay out in the Boonies.

Now I know Bats is fast. He was fast in Begins in that car. So I assume he's even faster on a motorcycle.

But is he THAT much faster than the cops? So much faster that he was the only one that could have saved either Rachel or Harvey?

That's the only thing that makes sense.

I mean, either Joker KNEW dude was the only one quick enough to get there on time.

Or Joker placed her waay out on the outskirts.

Cause it just doesn't make sense that the cops couldn't get to her. Gordon called out the WHOLE police squad. Nobody could get there?!

So yeah, either Joker, in his omniscience, knew the cops would be too slow to save the chick, so he switched the addys.

Or he placed her in Extrawest Gotham.

Or he rigged hers to blow 30 seconds early.

That bastard.

  

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the joker was fuckin' sadistic

  

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521. "It was clear to me. Gorden asks him "Whic one are you going to?""
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He says 'Rachel' and Gorden assures him that he was go save Dent.
I'm not really sure where the confusion is.
Just pay attention.





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227. "'ll have to check for that today."
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i don't remember that, but it was so fast i could have missed it. i just assumed as much because that's where he went.

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179. "im just gonna list off random things running through"
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my head. saw it on imax tonite, a must see for the city shots and building jumps. of course all spoilers, but im assuming everyone in this post has seen it already.

-i cannot get over heath's mannerisms and dialogue as joker. like all of you said above, that. was. joker. like he was a real person and you were watching videos of him, not an actor.

-what they incinuated with the face cutting was TERRIFYING. i loved it. and i loved how he changed his story everytime he did it about his scars.

-the jokers henchmen constantly being changed/upgraded/killed. when he first told them how it was gonna be (pool stick) WOW. i thought it was genius he had burnout and homeless type of teens be the first recruited.

-i thought rachels character was very important, and going into this i was kinda dreading her so shame on me. im actually very upset she got killed off, i think batman needed some glimmer of hope and now everything is to shit, even ALFRED would be distant from now on if you think about it. and rachel didnt need to die, harvey was already nearing a breaking point so he could have scared rachel away after the injury.

-i would have LOVED to see harley quinn. even if it was some quirky cameo. ya know, a braud delivering an envelope to the judge in the car with a NEW YORK ACCENT. anything. i have some really creative ideas where they could have fit her in.

-also, this got me thinking of the animated series--- loved the 2 faced coin that got burnt in the explosion. tons of symbolism.

-i hated the scarecrow/batman imposter/mob scene. retarded and pointless. and i thought all the hungry rabid dog shit throughout the movie was disturbing and wack.

-liked the ferry idea, but it went on too long. they could have just cut right to big convict guy approaching the detinator the same time as businessman wanted to push it, then show 12 midnite, show nothing exploding, then show their final actions.

-im wondering just now if i missed some homage/cameo type shit cuz there was sooo much going on.

(i probably have all kinds of spelling errors, im really tired)

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184. "few cameos"
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193. "haha."
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he's one of the biggest Batman fan(boys)man ever.



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230. "RE: im just gonna list off random things running through"
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>-i cannot get over heath's mannerisms and dialogue as joker.
>like all of you said above, that. was. joker. like he was a
>real person and you were watching videos of him, not an actor.

That's how I felt too. I did not think I was watching Ledger during the film. All I saw was The Joker.


>-i would have LOVED to see harley quinn. even if it was some
>quirky cameo. ya know, a braud delivering an envelope to the
>judge in the car with a NEW YORK ACCENT. anything. i have
>some really creative ideas where they could have fit her in.

I would've loved to see a short appearance by her too. That would've been great.

  

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260. "About the scars,"
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maybe everyone knows this, but in case anyone's unaware, those scars are based on a real phenomenon, the Chelsea Smile:

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292. "Harley Quinn is a silly idea."
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she's never been anything BUT cartoony, and this wasn't the movie for that. I mean, she was invented FOR the cartoon. I like her, too, but it just wouldn't fit, especially since Joker's underlings weren't themed like him in any way except on the inside.

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373. "BUT my friend"
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ya know how joker was selecting henchmen from the streets? her story could have been that she was a hooker lol

im not gonna let this up ;P

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547. "have you read the comics they DID put her in afterwards?"
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She's dangerously psychotic as well. EVERYONE in the cartoon was goofy.

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180. "little more about heath's portrayal--"
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the pulling in and pushing away that went on! one minute im cracking up at his remarks and jokes, next minute my heart is pounding cuz hes gonna slice a face open! i could not get enough of the highs and lows. everytime joker wasnt on screen i was wishing for him to hurry up and have a scene again!!

also the elaborateness of his crimes are unmatched by any other movie i can think of right now! single handed really, cuz everyone was disposeable to him. even the profit or gain from his disasters.

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234. "RE: little more about heath's portrayal--"
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>the pulling in and pushing away that went on! one minute im
>cracking up at his remarks and jokes, next minute my heart is
>pounding cuz hes gonna slice a face open! i could not get
>enough of the highs and lows. everytime joker wasnt on screen
>i was wishing for him to hurry up and have a scene again!!

That's another thing I loved. One minute I'm laughing at him and the next I'm horrified by what he does. That was done flawlessly.

  

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182. "C plus/B-minus. BATMAN BEGINS BETTER(SPOILERS)"
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Very disappointing.

A loose, wet, baggy monster compared to the cool,
calm, clean shaven 'Batman Begins'.

And the third film will DEFINITELY suck terribly,
because the "look" and "feel" has worn out.


Two of my many beef:


Beef #1: The rise of Two-Face was terrible.

Sorry, get a new angle. First off, the actual burning of the
face should have been the last thing that happened, not the
first thing that happened. We should have CLEARLY seen the
psychological split FIRST. Then the burning. The burning
took the momentum out of the character, because we all
could predict the next 30 minutes of the movie. Poorly
done.

Secondly, we've already seen the "villain has a vendetta
against bad guy for being responsible for loss of a loved one."
Be more creative. We already saw that angle in Spiderman, and
it sucked there, and sucked in this movie. Give us something
DIFFERENT.


Beef #2: The Joker - The performance was good, the character
was terrible.

Yay! Insane bad guy who enjoys seeing anarchy and destruction
just because! What a brilliant way to not have to explain
anything! When faced with a critic, the writer can always say:

"Well, he's just nuts and likes to fuck shit up. You can't
think about the Joker with a rational mind, and so your
rational criticisms aren't relevant."

Nice exercise in laziness, writers.

The ORIGINAL BATMAN didn't play that bullshit. They
made Joker BOTH INSANE and a RATIONAL BAD GUY WITH
RHYME AND REASON.

^^^Waaaay more impressive than this bullshit Joker.


But back to the Dark Knight's Joker:

Okay, so he recruits schizo maniacs into his circuit because
they are attracted to his insanity.

Lol.

Stupid and completely unrealistic to anyone
who has ever dealt with a schizo maniac, but there's enough
fanboys and plea coppers to let this slide.

But for real, this is the second bad guy in a row who
has some sort of bullshit rationale for anarchy tied
to their evil ways. Just because it was more "sophisticated"
in the case of Raz Agul(sp?) in 'Batman Begins,' and more
chaotic in the case of the Joker, doesn't give the writers
the excuse to not be creative. 'The Joker' seems to want
to just fuck shit up....fine. Its boring, though.

Jack Nicholson's Joker was waaay better, both the
performance and the character: Nicholson's Joker was
out of his mind, but I liked the fact that he had a twisted,
demented MEANS OF BEING AN ORGANIZED CRIMINAL. It was MUCH
EASIER TO EXPLAIN HIS CRIMINAL EMPIRE, and his diatribes
didn't descend into bullshit, meaningless yabber about
how humanity is doomed to hell....I almost dosed off during
those scenes in Dark Night. Very Boring.

  

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183. "i feel like joker had purpose"
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he explained at harveys bedside that he liked fucking up peoples plans, that was always HIS plan. to show people when things dont go as they want/foresee, something as dumb as spilling coffee on yourself ruins an entire day.

also- in the beginning when joker walked in on the mob meeting (chinese dood on the tv), he said basically he did jobs for people. he gets paid but doesnt care about using the money, its when money gives people the idea of power, THATS who he likes fucking with. this showed again when the chinese guy was sitting at the stop of the bill pyramid, and greaser mob guy got all salty when joker started burning the money.

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187. "RE: C plus/B-minus. BATMAN BEGINS BETTER(SPOILERS)"
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okay...

its a superhero movie
sometimes things happen that are unrealistic
sometimes things happen that are illogical
batman begins was exactly the same

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188. "I think."
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I respect your opinion but you're comparing too much.

I get it, Nicholson's Joker was better, but to me, Nicholson's Joker was between Cesar Romero's Joker and comic book Joker. I thought it was brilliant but seem too similar to Romero's Joker, it's very flamboyant and humorous. As for Ledger's Joker, it just seem like it wasn't lifted from a particular comic, but he made it his own. He was funny in a sadistic and vicious way. Like people said above, if you paid attention to his mannerism (like licking his lips) and his posture in the whole film, he kept it all the way, no sight of Ledger any where, even when he was the cop aiming for Batmanuel, no Ledger for me. I think that's what give him the advantage, because we see Jack Nicholson as, well, Jack Nicholson in the beginning of Batman but Ledger is already The Joker, no need for an origin. But I will agree with Two-Face, and I thought that was very, Venomish. I would thought Nolan would learn from Rami's mistake on putting too much villains in a film. Two-Face was rushed but I guess having The Joker around made me forget that part. Either way, I was hoping you would like the film and at least applause Ledger's performance. Dead or alive, Ledger did one hell of a job convincing me he wasn't Ledger anymore, but The Joker.



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191. "I respect these beefs"
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I wasn't crazy about the Two Face stuff either. His motivation is definitely played out. Also, seeing the Dark Knight didn't make me think any differently about how much I love Jack's Joker. Let's think back about the cool Joker shit in Burton's Batman: contaminating health & beauty products >>> setting up a bunch of bombs. Airing weird ass creative commercials >>> showing your hostage in distress on TV. Frying a dude with a hand buzzer = still cool shit, lol

  

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195. "Hey y'all - it's that dude who goes against the grain!!!"
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You mad, Ledger better than your favorite performance.

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494. "don't forget, hancock was a great B movie"
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515. "Odd how more and more people are agreeing with me, eh?"
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Including PTP staples who I usually fight with,
like Dr.No

Plenty people see my side

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198. "hey, it's your opinion, but i definitely disagree with this"
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>Beef #1: The rise of Two-Face was terrible.
>
>Sorry, get a new angle. First off, the actual burning of the
>face should have been the last thing that happened, not the
>first thing that happened. We should have CLEARLY seen the
>psychological split FIRST. Then the burning. The burning
>took the momentum out of the character, because we all
>could predict the next 30 minutes of the movie. Poorly
>done.


the psychological split shouldn't be 1st, because never, in the comics, in the animated cartoon or whutever, he NEVER became "two-face" BEFORE the scars...this is not like anakin becomes vader before the lava pit.

harvey dent was already turning, but felt restraint, and the double-sided coin gave him that restraint, he completely turned over once his saw his other side of the coin scarred (like in the comics)....the transition of harvey dent was PERFECTLY executed, he became the sympathetic villian like has suppose to be....we ALL knew he was going to turn into two-face, and whut would happen there after, but i don't hardly no-one would of guess gordon and batman would of covered up his murders to honor the guy he was once was



>
>Secondly, we've already seen the "villain has a vendetta
>against bad guy for being responsible for loss of a loved
>one."
>Be more creative. We already saw that angle in Spiderman, and
>
>it sucked there, and sucked in this movie. Give us something
>DIFFERENT.
>

for one, V for Vendetta wasn't even about a bad guy being responsible for the loss of a loved on, but i get your point that this arc is common, but in real life that's one of the most common reasons why someone turn from good to bad


>Beef #2: The Joker - The performance was good, the character
>was terrible.
>
>Yay! Insane bad guy who enjoys seeing anarchy and destruction
>just because! What a brilliant way to not have to explain
>anything! When faced with a critic, the writer can always say:
>

>
>The ORIGINAL BATMAN didn't play that bullshit. They
>made Joker BOTH INSANE and a RATIONAL BAD GUY WITH
>RHYME AND REASON.
>
>^^^Waaaay more impressive than this bullshit Joker.

you lost your batman creditials right here....ledger's joker is EXACTLY how the joker been portrayed in batman issue # 1 back in 1940 and how he's been portrayed in the comics and graphic novels today!

you definitely was not paying attention to the movie if you purely thought he was just insane just for the sake of being insane....EVERYTHING the joker did had a reason...everything...HE WAS TWO STEPS AHEAD OF EVERYBODY thruout the movie until batman for his illegal telecom FISA trip on and caught up with him...so, to even THINK that he was irrational with the things he did means you either did not watch the movie, or just wanted to HATE just to HATE



>
>Jack Nicholson's Joker was waaay better, both the
>performance and the character: Nicholson's Joker was
>out of his mind, but I liked the fact that he had a twisted,
>demented MEANS OF BEING AN ORGANIZED CRIMINAL. It was MUCH
>EASIER TO EXPLAIN HIS CRIMINAL EMPIRE, and his diatribes
>didn't descend into bullshit, meaningless yabber about
>how humanity is doomed to hell....I almost dosed off during
>those scenes in Dark Night. Very Boring.
>



i don't see any difference with whut jack's joker did vs. heath's joker did....both effectively took over the mob...both were obsessive about batman, both took the entire city of gotham into near chaos....the ONLY difference was how they performed him...end of story

  

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209. "whoa, great stuff all around."
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214. "word. if you're paying attention, Harvey already had the tendencies."
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When he's talking about the Roman empire, and how the people necessitated Batman, and also his tactics before the shit REALLY went down...this is a dude that has the same basic mentality as Batman, but when the major adversity for him came, he didn't have a Rachel there to slap some sense into him. He's the split between Joker and Batman.

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262. "I forgot about when he tries to get info out of the schizo too"
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so yeah, they did a good enough job planting the seed. But I still wasn't totally excited when he turned

  

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244. "LMAO!!! WRONG!!!!"
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>the psychological split shouldn't be 1st, because never, in
>the comics, in the animated cartoon or whutever, he NEVER
>became "two-face" BEFORE the scars...this is not like anakin
>becomes vader before the lava pit.

Its not about the COMICS, you nerd, because this DARK
KNIGHT was NOT FRANK MILLER'S DARK KNIGHT.

Is its OWN MOVIE and BENT THE RULES IN MANY WAYS.

Most people don't really care about how close the movie
is to the film. What we do care about is that the FILM
is GOOD.

And that Two-Face shit was...Lol..supid. If you're
going to TWEAK OTHER DETAILS OF THE ACTUAL STORY in
order to make it FRESH, ORIGINAL and INTERESTING, than
tweak everything. Only the nerdiest of nerds would
get upset if Two-Face's face was burned at the end of
his downfall and not the beginning.

His face burning completely took away all of the suspense.
I predicted to A TEE EXACTLY what the rest of the movie was
going to be like the second I saw the gasoline pouring on
his face. That's terrible, lazy, sloppy writing.

>harvey dent was already turning, but felt restraint, and the
>double-sided coin gave him that restraint, he completely
>turned over once his saw his other side of the coin scarred
>(like in the comics)....the transition of harvey dent was
>PERFECTLY executed, he became the sympathetic villian like has
>suppose to be....we ALL knew he was going to turn into
>two-face, and whut would happen there after, but i don't
>hardly no-one would of guess gordon and batman would of
>covered up his murders to honor the guy he was once was

Sure, Dent hmself was FINE but the actual transition to
Two Face was not. And you still haven't addressed the stupid
ass "villain hates hero because hero is responsible for loss
of a loved one." That's pretty stupid, uncreative, been done
before and was very hard to take seriously, If you're going
to spend all this money on a new story, make a it good.

Again: this was NOT FRANK MILLER'S STORY, and they bent
the rules in a lot of ways. If you're going to bend the rules,
bend them properly, and bend them to make the story
more interesting.


>for one, V for Vendetta wasn't even about a bad guy being
>responsible for the loss of a loved on, but i get your point
>that this arc is common, but in real life that's one of the
>most common reasons why someone turn from good to bad

No, people are just lazy writers.


>you lost your batman creditials right here....ledger's joker
>is EXACTLY how the joker been portrayed in batman issue # 1
>back in 1940 and how he's been portrayed in the comics and
>graphic novels today!

I've read more Batman comics than you have, toughguy.

I'm just less of a nerd, and understand that its okay
to bend the rules, because a COMIC IS NOT A MOVIE.

And there are several renditions of the Joker...he's
changed through time and with writer.

And again: This is NOT THE FRANK MILLER story, so stop
the whole "it was faithful to the original DARK KNIGHT"

>you definitely was not paying attention to the movie if you
>purely thought he was just insane just for the sake of being
>insane....EVERYTHING the joker did had a
>reason...everything...HE WAS TWO STEPS AHEAD OF EVERYBODY
>thruout the movie until batman for his illegal telecom FISA
>trip on and caught up with him...so, to even THINK that he was
>irrational with the things he did means you either did not
>watch the movie, or just wanted to HATE just to HATE

Jesus Christ.

Just...shush. Shush your mouth.

I understand that he had a REASON. I'm saying his
reasons were stupid: All of the planning, all of the
tacts, strategies, everything, was to the destructive
ends, and that's it.

And you still haven't addressed how you build a criminal
empire of paranoid schizos...that's retarded(no pun intended)
and if his syndicate had non retards in it, not sure why
one of them didn't just put a bullet in him, because Joker
has no regard for money, whatsoever, and so would be the
worst crime boss ever.

All of you are going to cop pleas now, talking about:


"He manipulative, and that is part of his genius"


Lol.

Or some bullshit like that, but it doesn't make sense.

Not to mention that his ability to rig basically the
entire city with bombs doesn't make any motherfucking
sense....what type of MIT engineer schizphrenics does
he have working for him? That, or he can teleport from
one side of the city to the other, into hidden tunnels
and shit within the course of minutes.


>i don't see any difference with whut jack's joker did vs.
>heath's joker did....both effectively took over the mob...both
>were obsessive about batman, both took the entire city of
>gotham into near chaos....the ONLY difference was how they
>performed him...end of story

LMMFAO!!!

Original Batman: Joker is a CRIME BOSS. That means, that yes,
he wants to stack that chedder, hold down the drug trade,
attain power, wealth, prestige, and run the city.

What made the ORIGINAL JOKER BETTER is that he had a
SICK, TWISTED, DEMEMTED TWIST on it.

He was POISONING THE CITY, making people die of
laughing illness...haha...that was brilliant. He
had a DIFFERENT WAY OF IMPOSING CHAOS that was rooted
in EVIL, but in the CONTEXT OF AN ORGANIZED CRIMINAL.

ANd he STILL had an obsession with Batman that played
out beautifuly.


Dark Knight Batman: Spends every waking hour building a
criminal syndicate of paranoid schizos who work tirelessly
to rig the entire city with bombs in order to prove some
magical point about how disorder and chaos are the natural
order? Or that the natural state of man is chaos? Or what?
Or were all of his efforts to the end of just maximizing
pain?

LOL.

That's poor, lazy, writing.





  

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317. "RE: LMAO!!! WRONG!!!!"
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>Dark Knight Batman: Spends every waking hour building a
>criminal syndicate of paranoid schizos who work tirelessly
>to rig the entire city with bombs in order to prove some
>magical point about how disorder and chaos are the natural
>order? Or that the natural state of man is chaos? Or what?
>Or were all of his efforts to the end of just maximizing
>pain?
>
>LOL.
>
>That's poor, lazy, writing.


not in the least
it's a study of the human condition at it's extremes
and how far characters can be pushed (or not) to achieve an objective


actually the previous plot you described sound simplistic and lazy
there MUST be a goal
well there were several goals and because you could not discern a concrete objective from a abstract one
doesn't make the writers lazy
it's more a statement of your unwillingness to perceive an abstract depth in goal
as opposed to a simple shallow concrete one
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328. "LOL. WRONG Part Deux"
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>actually the previous plot you described sound simplistic and
>lazy
>there MUST be a goal
>well there were several goals and because you could not
>discern a concrete objective from a abstract one
>doesn't make the writers lazy
>it's more a statement of your unwillingness to perceive an
>abstract depth in goal
>as opposed to a simple shallow concrete one

WRONG!!!

There is nothing shallow about detail, my friend

And "abstract" does not mean "unexplainable."

He can be as abstract as he wants

Even mathematics tells us that chaos has rhyme and
reason to it

It just defies conventional understanding

But it has rhyme and reason

He didn't

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332. "if it makes you feel better"
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the details is in the layers of his scheming


but a guess a AHA!
THIS and THIS because of THAT means THIS
type of plot/movie suits your seeing needs
ah wells
your loss
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549. "i like the movie as it is"
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but somebody's gotta hate..

listen, they nailed the movie. it wasn't without its flaws, but nailed none the less. so if you like it then you like, if you don't then you just don't get it.

no changes necessary

  

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229. "dude...Joker is not an organized criminal"
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>performance and the character: Nicholson's Joker was
>out of his mind, but I liked the fact that he had a twisted,
>demented MEANS OF BEING AN ORGANIZED CRIMINAL. It was MUCH
>EASIER TO EXPLAIN HIS CRIMINAL EMPIRE

the goofy prankster who robs for fun died several decades ago

pretty much everything he's done since then is murder for fun, murder to make others insane, murder to make Batman chase him, and so on

believe it or not, Burton's Batman is not the source material

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245. "LOL. As if the other opinions in here aren't biased. LOL."
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Why, exactly, is my opinion more biased than anyone else's?

If anything, I'm more objective because I went in not
expecting much and was perfectly prepared to be wowed.

Instead, I was treated to lazy, sloppy writing, bad
characters and a film far inferior to 'Batman Begins'.


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268. "you're going out of your way to hate, like you want a cookie or somethin"
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314. "No, I'm making legit points that no one wants to discuss."
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Because you guys are plea coppers and fanboys

  

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450. "Actually they were discussed. But anyone who disagrees is WRONG"
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So what's the point?

>Because you guys are plea coppers and fanboys

And you're the hater & make em mad guy. It's a terrific schtick. But alas, it's old & played out & has been done before & better. Keep it up tho. You just might convince everyone else that you were RIGHT all along afterall.

  

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271. "boooOOOoooOOOooo"
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>

<--- Blame this lady for Nutty.

  

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189. "some random thoughts"
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-I could not believe how awesome the editing job was to create tension right before the Joker busts into the dinner party. I think I was literally clenching my jaw.

-I cringed at the scene when Heath tells the mob dude how he got his scars because it was incredibly corny and forced. And then I loved how he told Rachel a different story later. Nice little madman nuance by the writers

-cosign Will that the character of Rachel is just lifeless, even though Maggie did as well as she could

-what are our thoughts on the Two Face costume? Do we like that it was that extreme or would it have been cooler if his eyeball and cheek muscles weren't bulging out? I wonder how many different drawings they did..

-the action sequences and chases were all quality no doubt, but a few hours after the movie do any of them hold much weight to you? There are SO many schemed attacks, SO many explosions, etc that they all just kinda have a dampened impact by the end imo. Was there anything as memorable as the Nightcrawler opening in X2? I'm not so sure...

-Bruce sleeping during the business meeting was a great sight gag

-the Joker's speeches to Harvey in the hospital and Bruce at the end pretty much make the movie

-the score is fantastic



  

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200. "i just accepted the fact that some people in real life are lifeless"
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which gives me a pass for rachel...i just accepted that she MEANT to be an uncharismatic portrayal

at least she's a significant key for this movie

  

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231. "lol -- now you're copping MAJOR pleas"
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240. "no lie- it was a plea copped"
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but, once you accept that rachel is just uninteresting as a character...it makes you enjoy the movie more...didn't go to see how charismatic or dramatic rachel was, lol

just the fact that she DIED was a highlight to me...

  

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201. "Cosign all of these points, especially--"
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>-the action sequences and chases were all quality no doubt,
>but a few hours after the movie do any of them hold much
>weight to you? There are SO many schemed attacks, SO many
>explosions, etc that they all just kinda have a dampened
>impact by the end imo. Was there anything as memorable as the
>Nightcrawler opening in X2? I'm not so sure...

I don't think there was anything as memorable as the mansion raid or the Magneto escape scene either. All of the memorable things for me in this film aren't from the action, they're all Heath Ledger moments/quotes/speeches.

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203. "X2's action scences >>>>>>>>> Dark Knight's action scenes"
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Not even close

  

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275. "that tunnel scene was pretty great, tho"
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210. "i really didnt like the two face cgi"
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the eyeball grew on me cuz it looked so real, but he looked more like an alien than a burn victim

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232. "he looked like a Terminator rip off"
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241. "i was kinda suprised that they downplayed it alot"
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with alot of half shadows and ect...

  

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296. "I'll agree that there might have been one too many action scenes."
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194. "Unbelievably good... exceeded my very lofty expectations"
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Heath was just amazing... hand him the Oscar.

Every time he was on the screen you just get sucked in and enthralled with the character and his performance. I was worried I would have a hard time seperating Heath and his death from the character, but he was SO immersed as The Joker that you dont even realize its him.... incredible.

And Nolan is hands down the best director out there right now in my book.

Such a great cast, and everyone nailed their roles. Maggie was the weakeast to me though, she wasnt bad but I felt like there are many other actresses that could have stepped in and done a better job as Rachel Dawes. Either way she kicked Katie Holmes ass, so I cant even complain.

Im still trying to process everything, but I was blown away.

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204. "Not to disrespect the dead, but let's fall back about Health Ledger"
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This whole "Tormented genius who gave his
life for the craft" story is bullshit. Please.

There have been better actors and actresses who didn't
lose their mind...Jake Nicholson's Joker was better than
his, and Jack be chillin at Laker games...Jack don't be
talking about tormented soul this, or that.

The dumbass girl I saw this with(fine as FUCK tho)
was all worked up talking about how artists are
tormented souls yada yada yada

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

I think the death was terrible, but for all intents and
purposes, he is not some hero of the acting craft. He was a
good, young, actor who took too many drugs and liked a lot
of random pussy. Good for him, but niggas are in here
losing they mind about this performance, talking about
it is a VIRTUOSO

Please.

No, it wasn't.

To be honest, I'm not sure this performance was even
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205. "Heath Ledger's Joker >>> Jack Nicholson's Joker...."
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I don't believe in that tormented yadayada either...
however; there is no way you can that his attempt at the Joker was anything less than exceptional...
you probably just didn't like the way he looked or was in
a bad mood about all the hype surrounding his death, but ask
anyone who is a film critic or a comic book fanantic and they will
tell you he nailed the role with such precision that NO ONE else
can make a better Joker for the time being...
I'm seeing the movie three times this weekend, I'll make up the difference for those who won't see it...

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some new music. WTF is going on this year?

  

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251. "They were both great, but Jack's character was far better"
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Which his not Heath's fault. Its the writer's fault.

Jack's Joker was more complete with less holes.

But Ledger was great

Just not better than Jack


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295. "more complete? Fuck are you talking about?"
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They tried to justify his craziness by implying that the chemicals messed his brain up. They had Joker be the guy that killed Bruce's parents, so that everything could tie together neatly.

That's not the fucking point of the joker.

You're saying a character that was supposed to be madness incarnate has holes? FOH.

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315. "The plea copping ensues"
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>They tried to justify his craziness by implying that the
>chemicals messed his brain up. They had Joker be the guy that
>killed Bruce's parents, so that everything could tie together
>neatly.

The great thing is, Joker didn't even have to
kill his parents for the character to have been
well-written, and complete. That detail just really
upped the ante on their rivalry.

Nerds bitched that it was inconsistent with the
comic, but only nerds care.

Normal people and cool people like me just want
to have a good fucking movie, which the original
was.

>That's not the fucking point of the joker.

Lol.

Says who?

There's a lot of things, even in the newest
franchise, that are the "point" of anything.

The "point" of the Joker is not to philosophically
blabber about the chaos and all types of dumbshit
like that


>You're saying a character that was supposed to be madness
>incarnate has holes? FOH.

That's what I mean: By saying that he's a madness
incarnate, you are copping pleas for a poorly
developed character. You can always say:

"Well, he's just mad. We don't have to explain that."

Bullshit. Everything needs to be explained. Everything.

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451. "As does the self gratification"
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>Normal people and cool people like me

  

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207. "ledger's joker perfectly repped the graphic novels"
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jack's joker was cool, but it was still jack being jack but with make-up on....

now jack's performance in THE SHINING is a different story....but jack's joker is overated...

now if this was mark hamill we're talking about, then i would of gave you more benefit of the doubt

  

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208. "for starters, that tortured soul shit is pure speculation, & quite typic..."
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the media does this shit everytime someone dies young. there has been nothing concrete that suggests his death was anything other than accidental.

so its pretty fucked for folks to buy into the tortured soul angle to begin with.

most folks close to him agreed that he stopped with the wild shit once he had his daughter.
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213. "the performance reviews are on point."
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The death thing wasn't that heroic. he got insomnia studying for the role. The sleeping pills he was prescribed led to an addiction because of other things going on in his life. He only lost his life over the role in a roundabout way.

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239. "Wait don't you rip on Jack's performance in the Departed regularly?"
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Jack in the Departed = Jack playing Jack as crazy criminal mastermind from new england.

Jack in Batman = Jack playing Jack as crazy criminal mastermind with makeup.

He did the same over the top shit that he did in Departed when he was the Joker just with makeup. You dislike one, you can't prop up the other, when they are that similar.

  

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247. "LOL. And what the fuck does that have to do with anything?"
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>Jack in the Departed = Jack playing Jack as crazy criminal
>mastermind from new england.

No, I didn't mind JACK in the Departed. What I didn't
like was his dumbass CHARACTER. He was just doing what
he was told to do, say one liners.

>Jack in Batman = Jack playing Jack as crazy criminal
>mastermind with makeup.

No, he was the Joker.

A great Joker.

And the CHARACTER WAS WRITTEN GREAT.

>He did the same over the top shit that he did in Departed when
>he was the Joker just with makeup. You dislike one, you can't
>prop up the other, when they are that similar.

Wrong. This was a stupid attempt at trying to catch me
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249. "Lol it has a lot to do with it."
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You did contradict yourself. Plea coppage about not liking a character vs the actor aside, it seems like you had your mind made up that you were gonna try and downplay TDK/Ledger before you even set foot in the theater. It's a fun game to play. Madmaking and all, but at least admit it instead of making silly contradictions and then copping pleas about said contradictions.

  

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252. "No, it doesn't and you you're reaching. Do better."
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>You did contradict yourself. Plea coppage about not liking a
>character vs the actor aside, it seems like you had your mind
>made up that you were gonna try and downplay TDK/Ledger before
>you even set foot in the theater. It's a fun game to play.
>Madmaking and all, but at least admit it instead of making
>silly contradictions and then copping pleas about said
>contradictions.

'The Departed' = Jack played a stupid ass character
with one liners in a bad storyline. Jack wasn't the
only thing bad about the film, but he certainly wasn't
good. He did what he was supposed to do. What he was supposed
to do, however, was stupid.

'Batman' = Jack played a very well written character very well.
He added charm and persona to the role, and his Jack-isms
fit perfectly, made the character and film brilliant.


I mean, not sure what the fuck your problem is, but
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452. "The same thing QT & M-Dogg have to do with each other"
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471. "HAHAH I'm really getting under your skin, eh?"
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You following me all around this post
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475. "HAHAH NOPE. I'm havin fun son!"
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>
>You following me all around this post
>not saying shit just mad

Nope. I'm glad!

  

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491. "^^^Jake Gyllenhall in Brokeback <--HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
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You Gay, yes, but mad?

Why for?


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526. "^^^Thinks the 3rd time will harm"
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Time to call your buddy Bags & get some new material

  

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535. "^^^^Jake Gyllenhall in BROKEBACK <---HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
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I'm fresh to death

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206. "It was fuckin incredible."
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I am already making plans to go see it again, whether its with different ppl or by myself.

Quick thoughts:

-Batman's growl is nothing to complain about. If it was his Bruce Wayne voice, ppl would know who Batman was.

-Harvey Dent/Two Face by Eckhart was fantastic. His slow transformation from the real good guy to a sculpted psychopath was great, and this was really his movie.

-I am glad they killed Rachel, even though Maggie's portrayal was 10x better than Katie Holmes'.

-I don't know if I could say anything more about how great a job Ledger did. It was unbelievable to me that it was him in that makeup. That motherfucker was psychopathic! The music that played when he was about to step onto a scene was just creepy as hell. It was like watching a smaller, funnier, and talkative version of Rob Zombie's Michael Myers remake. It's so sad that he can't be in the next one, b/c no one may ever top that Joker or villain for that matter.

-Gary Oldman could get a Best Supporting Actor nomination too, b/c his is just fantastic in just about every role he touches.

-The action scenes are just awesome. The whole chasing Harvey through the city with the truck and SWAT van and Bat pod was just fucking great.

-Here are my picks for possible villains in the next one: Philip Seymour Hoffman as Penguin, Michael Emerson (Ben from Lost) as Riddler, and Catwoman (although I can't think of anyone to play her yet).

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215. "btw, Joker pretty much won. He turned Dent."
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Most of his plans included a dual, or backup. The boats, Dent/Dawes, Mayor/Gordon.

He was gonna drive SOMEBODY nuts. Couldn't get Bats. Got Dent. Great movie making.

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233. "he DID *technically win* but...."
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gordon and batman's coverup on harvey's pretty much thrawted joker's hopes of public perception of the real harvey dent

however, it IS interesting of how much foreshadowing it was leading up to that...from sal's partner taking the fall for him, to dent taking the fall for batman and batman paying him in return by taking the fall for him in the end....

hell, even gordan took the fall for rachel

  

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216. "$65 mil on Friday alone, sets a single-day box office record."
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I wouldn't be surprised in the least if it breaks $150 million for the weekend.

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221. "GUAP"
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If they don't beat Spidey 3 they can always cop out about how dark and inappropriate for kids TDK is, lol. Although they might make up for the lack of kids with the repeat viewing by grown men (seen it twice already and might do IMAX on Sunday).

This is an unmitigated success though and pretty much guarantees they're gonna give us Godfather III.



  

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256. "good god DAMN"
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Batman Begins only made about $200 million domestically...

the ad agencies who worked on this one 'bout to get *cakey*

  

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293. "Update: $67+ million on late Thurs-Friday. NOPE! NOLAN! NUMBERS!"
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218. "Epic Shit, I dont even feel like nitpicking"
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I've seen it 3 times in 24 hours. 12:10am, 3:15pm, 9:30pm. Now thats how you take a day off from work. I really like how Nolan doesnt kill off the Villans, it creates more of a rogue gallery knowing that these nuts are still around some where waiting to strike back. 3 villans in the movie and not once did it seem crowded.(like Spider-Man 3, which was utter shit)

There's no way that they can top the villany of the Joker tho, I dont even know what Villan they can bring in next that can compare. This movie will go down as a new classic, no doubt about it.

The Dark Knight Returns in 2011? lol
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220. "oh btw, about Dent and the ending"
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no way is Dent dead. They woulda made a bigger deal about Bats killing him, and they showed us early on that Bats knows how much of a drop will kill a guy vs. fuck him up

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223. "i agree"
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i ALWAYS felt that they covered it up the same way they faked gordan's death...plus, batman's number # rule is that he does not kill, to include pushing someone out of a window

i got a feeling the 3rd one HAVE to be with the riddler as the villian, but predicting that the nolans are going to do it in such a way similar to se7en & die hard with a vengence with them not KNOWING who the criminal is until the end, but the riddler would use his trademark riddles along the way...

by having two-face still alive as well as the joker...they'll be one of the main suspects in spite (i think they don't have have to show the joker, but assume from the crimes it was him, but at the sametime have doubts)

just my opinion

  

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236. "Right. I really don't think they killed off Dent at the end."
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>no way is Dent dead. They woulda made a bigger deal about
>Bats killing him, and they showed us early on that Bats knows
>how much of a drop will kill a guy vs. fuck him up

  

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222. "The magic trick was the most gangster shit I've ever seen."
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The best thing about the movie IMO was the editing/pacing, I was on the edge of my seat through most of the whole flick, and barely noticed the 2 1/2 hour running time.

Eckhart won't get his due props for Dent/Two Face but it's hard to portray the hero/villian transformation in a single flick without it coming off as forced or corny, but he pulled it off and the scene with him and Joker in the hospital was my favorite of the movie.

I don't know how Nolan can top this though, nor can I think of a new villain that could match the Joker. I mean...Penguin? Bleh

EDIT: LOL @ people cheering and screaming "DEEBO!" when he appeared on screen.

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224. "correction: (spoiler)"
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the fuckin' CELLPHONE IED explosion is the most GANGSTER shit i've ever seen...

that was my "OH SHIT!!!!" moment

  

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225. "the riddler if they do it right"
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>
>I don't know how Nolan can top this though, nor can I think of
>a new villain that could match the Joker. I mean...Penguin?
>Bleh
>

like how this movie was inspired by the film "heat" if the nolan brothers use some of the themes from "seven" but with riddles and show the mysterious "riddler's" identity in the end...i'm sure they could match this

  

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228. "THAT shit set the tone"
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like...this is ain't your Burtonesque Joker

  

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242. "that scene was top notch"
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the way he enters the room with that extended laugh already had me on the edge of my seat... and the magic trick just put it over the top.

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306. "The magic trick was my fav moment of the movie...."
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LOL. I JUMPED in my seat...like DAAAAMN!

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330. "YES!!! DEEBO!"
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248. "Oh, and Batman himself was very mediocre in this movie"
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When the coolest thing that Batman does
is kidnap a chinese launderer, than you
know you have an average Batman movie.

Like I said, this movie does not bode well
for the next one.

Hopefully they can get Robin in there somewhere,
because Bale is starting to wear very thin.

Batman did very little cool fighting, and his
gadgets were sort of meh


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250. "what gadgets?"
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that was disappointing to me. I wanted to see more toys.

instead we got 50 close-cropped elbows to the back of people's heads...

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253. "Again, the Batman character as a whole was boring."
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>that was disappointing to me. I wanted to see more toys.
>
>instead we got 50 close-cropped elbows to the back of people's
>heads...

Didn't do a lot of ass kicking, at all, didn't have
interesting gadgets. Like I said: Kidnapping a Chinese
launderer does not a cool superhero make

And I guess I'm the only one who wants to admit
that I cringe every time I heard Batman speak...his
efforts to disguise his voice were quite shitty




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254. "I guess you don't read."
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>And I guess I'm the only one who wants to admit
>that I cringe every time I heard Batman speak...his
>efforts to disguise his voice were quite shitty

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257. "that shit was ill though"
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> Kidnapping a Chinese
>launderer does not a cool superhero make

  

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258. "This thread is filled with people complaining about the voice."
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You must have typed all this shit up a few days before you saw the movie.

  

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255. "there was gadgets THRUOUT THE MOVIE!!!"
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whut more were you asking? i felt it was great that the gadgets never distracted from the story, and actual detective work was more at focus (which batman actually is)

but from the wrist claws shooting out, the sonar-shit, a device to shutdown all the power in a building...a timed C-4 like exploside device he can shoot out on wall, the fuckin' cape used as a hang glider, the fuckin' batmobile turning into the batpod...i mean COT-DAMN! the muthafucka HAD some crazy gadgets..but they're NOT the focus of this movie nor it should be

  

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259. "but what was most of it?"
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I mean, the Chinese getaway was great

what you mentioned was cool, but I would have liked to see more ingenuity than what was presented -- 80 percent of the action was Batman running into a building and delivering karate chops to gangsters with guns

and please don't lecture me on what Batman *is*...him using expensive technology in fights is just as much his appeal as detective work

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304. "they showed the gadgets, but they don't make the movie"
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if that's your complaint, then you're really nitpicking....

i guess you hated "casino royal" because they lacked bond gadgets, huh?

  

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309. "no, Casino Royale's problem was a 40 minute long poker game"
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most of the close combat was repetitive and unimaginative; I dug the scenes you mentioned but there was room for some more creativity.

and I *am* nitpicking -- I already said this is likely the best comic book movie ever.

but that doesn't mean I think it's PERFECT. so throw out the condescending shit, like I don't understand the movie / comic.

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297. "there were plenty of gadgets."
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311. "they could have been used better"
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- Batman ambushes Scarecrow and thugs, tae kwon do's them to death
- Batman ambushes Chinese gangsters, tae kwon do's them to death
- Batman ambushes club gangsters, tae kwon do's them to death
- Batman ambushes Joker's henchmen, tae kwon do's them to death

the Chinese escape was cool, and I guess the sonar counts (but not impressive since they stole that from Daredevil)

hang gliding, grapple shot and explosives have been done before and possibly better effect in other movies

it's an admitted nitpick, but I wish Nolan had found some more creative ways to dispose of random thugs

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313. "aw, get outta here."
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You really want Bats to rely on gadgets to take out guys in hockey pants? That would be extra lame.

However, there are two Batman movies out there that are right up your alley. lol

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316. "*shrug*"
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the cool part of Batman is that he's a mostly normal guy who's "super power" is ingenuity -- funded by his riches

but yeah, since I said the combat wasn't perfect that means I loved every other Batman movie better...

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320. "i can't fault you for the combat comments"
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but wanting him to use gadgets on low thugs is eh

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340. "I dunno man..."
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The Scarecrow scene made it a point that sometimes technology goes awry. The reinforced grip/ rotary blade mechanism he used to bend the barrel of that gun seemed to jam up when he was trying to cut into the vehicle. It sets up the story to be more cerebral and less physical...

You can't fight Jokes with some cool toy and really expect to win, can you?

The gadgets was there, they were just moderated, and it was probably a good idea. Shades of that moderation are even written into the story.

I dun think there's much of a nit here to even pick. Y'all gonna fuck around and make scabs with these delusions of bugs on the skin.

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343. "lol, but he ended up just kicking everyone's ass"
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>It sets up the story to be
>more cerebral and less physical...

with body blows regardless

I loved the movie, but when a film's elements are done at a high level, the lesser parts stand out more

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346. "He broke some dude's arm"
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n' I'm pretty sure he DOA'd a couple of those rot's.

I mean, I see what you're saying, but on the other hand, besides gadgets and some melee, what else would ya' have him do? Cartwheels and somersaults?

The style of those fight scenes fit Bat's modus operandi, in my humble opinion. Hit mugs hard and fast to incapacitate as many targets as possible and minding not to kill them... you're gonna want to save your flashy Bruce Lee homage for another time, you know? Bracer to the neck, bracer to the throat... shut 'em down with as little effort, movement as possible. That and the element of surprise are what's going to prevail... kung-fu / ninja training 101.

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but that shit's stupid though.

  

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454. "And Sally's ankles"
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270. "boooOOOoooOOOooo"
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<--- Blame this lady for Nutty.

  

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278. "actually batman was quite good"
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it's just that the joker was great


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281. "the movie wasn't about him tho"
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385. "his fighting abilities aren't overly exaggerated"
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whereas you might view this as a boring quality for a superhero,
i thought it was interesting how he often brawls his way out of difficult
situations. when necessary, he employs technology, but in hand-to-hand
combat, his fighting style is realistic. with the kind of money he's rolling
with, batman could use some interesting weapons to blow the shit out of
villains, but in the end, he keeps it ethical and simple (2 very boring and safe
characteristics). personally, i'm with batman as supercop.



  

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261. "i heard a rumor that..."
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*spoiler kinda*

the scene where the joker is in the jail cell and they announce that gordon is the new commissioner and everyone starts clapping...

it wasn't in the script for the joker to clap and heath improvised that.

shit is so perfect.


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264. "its true, he did improv that"
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and im glad he did because that was a great moment

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265. "Yeah, and its overrated."
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He clapped. Like, so what.


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266. "Lol...the movie's been out for 36 hours."
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Is that part even rated? Two people talking about it makes it overrated?

  

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322. "And already I've read/heard about that clapping bullshit 3,591 times"
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Seriously

Let it go

who cares

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342. "sour puss"
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gas face

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459. "And we've already read about you being mad 3,591 times"
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>
>Seriously
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>Let it go
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>who cares

The people talking about it do.

  

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472. "^^^Jake Gyllenhall in Brokeback <---HAHAHAHAH"
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You FOLLOWING ME around HEATED!!

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476. "^^^So mad he's still using gay brokeback jokes"
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496. "^^^^Jake Gyllenhall in BROKEBACK <---HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
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Admit it, famz

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527. "^^^^Stuck on stupid"
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534. "^^^^Jake Gyllenhall in BROKEBACK <---HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
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Just sayin


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269. "man. That dude understood. lol"
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460. "The look on his face was perfect. Unless of course OE sez it aint."
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272. "it was everything i could have hoped for and more!!!!"
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ledger (RIP) was amazing as the joker, his performance bodied jack nick's (no disrespect) but i like the joker as the brilliant homicidal psychopath that he was originally conceived to be and ledger conveyed that perfectly, yes please give that man an oscar.

all the other acting as great too, bale killed it, oldman killed it, gylenhall killed it, eckhart... muthafuckin' eckhart!!! WHAT!!!! it's murder. hands down the best movie of the summer. i'll actually pay to see it again.

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279. "great flick"
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I much prefer the lunatic, anarchist joker, to the smooth old mob boss joker. In the world of the new batman movies, it makes a lot more sense.

Something else that i really liked about this movie, was its LACK of music at certain spots. That tunnel scene? ILL.

Amazingly dark summer popcorn flick. GREAT movie.

  

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280. "it was well worth getting up at 3am for the IMAX"
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fantastic
and i was half asleep (2 hours of sleep)
you know when you just drop to sleep
well i keep doing that but for like 10sec every 20 mins
but i kept waking up
and shaking my head to stay awake cause it was good and i REALLY refused to miss any of it
omg it was goooood
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282. "Yeah. Hot shit."
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First off, I want to give a (NAME DROPPER ALERT) shout out to my girl Beatrice Rosen, whom I worked with on Cuts... in this movie, she was Natascha, the Russian ballet dancer who was with Bruce early on... B, all I gotta say is... she REAL mad (please don't ask, I'm not talking about it, and yes, she prolly won't read this, but so what).

Now, on to some rambling thoughts about this movie.

I thought it was great. Everything about it was top-notch. Certainly very thought-provoking AND entertaining at the same time. The material was quite timely, and there were SEVERAL references to Our Current Times... starting with the fact that the Joker was, for all intents and purposes, a terrorist, a dude who literally has nothing to lose by wreaking havoc... and yes, I believe the hype, Heath Ledger's performance WAS fantastic... though I'm not so sure, with 5 months left in the year, that it will be one of the final 5 nominees come Oscar time, but he has a GREAT shot at it...

I thought Bale was solid again (and btw, wtf is this shit about his Batman voice? Y'all motherbuckers weren't complaining when he first did it in Batman Begins, so why's it a problem now?)... I thought Morgan "Shoot THIS motherfucker" Freeman, Caine, and Maggie Gyllenhaal were fine, Oldman was great, and I liked Aaron Eckhart's take on Harvey, well, up until he turned into Two-Face, which I just had a hard time buying... like, I understood the *why*, but I just couldn't get into the *how*...

Let me just take a quick break for this:

ZEUUUUUUUUUS!

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And shout-out to Anthony Michael Hall and Eric Roberts, yo...

Moving on...

I kinda agree with the (David Edelstein) criticism that the action sequences felt choppy, mainly the ones involving any kind of vehicles... but I'd put that more on the editing than Nolan's shot choices, as some of the sequences were cut way too quickly for my taste. However, I *did* like the intercutting "homage" to Silence of the Lambs (and yes, I'm referencing that film because it's the one I thought of off the top) with the sequence involving Rachel and Harvey...

I DON'T agree with Edelstein's complaint that the movie wasn't any fun, that it was "too dark" and "sadistic"... well, I should say that I don't think that that should be looked at as a negative... the point is that it IS a dark and sadistic time in Ameri-- er, Gotham City, that there's not really much joy to be had in a city where crime is rampant and they have to depend on one savior cat to come and save the day (a cat that the people don't even really trust to begin with)... then, if that's not bad enough, you bring in this dude who Just Don't Give a Fuck and is more than happy to drive the city to hell...

It wasn't the total and complete anarchy that I was (irrationally) hoping for, but this will do for now, for sure. This, and WALL*E are the top two movies of the year. Save the talk about Iron Man, I liked it just fine, but it ain't The Dark Knight.

Warner Bros. legal department better have already sent Nolan the contract and a Brink's truck for the next one, because you're, well, batshit, if you don't believe there will be a third one, and also that he should be behind it...
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286. "i agree with you on this"
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>I liked Aaron Eckhart's take on Harvey, well, up
>until he turned into Two-Face, which I just had a hard time
>buying... like, I understood the *why*, but I just couldn't
>get into the *how*...

it seemed a little forced to me. as you said, we know the *why*, but for the White Knight hero of the city who was so dedicated to ridding Gotham of crime, and even Batman vouching for him to be a "replacement".... it just seemed like the transformation happened too fast. Its one of the few flaws in the movie IMO, that we didnt get enough of a deeper look into Dent's transformation into Two Face. Granted the movie was already lengthy, but there could have been cuts elsewhere to make room for this. Still, its a minor complaint and Eckhart did a great job as both characters, I just wished Nolan spent a bit more time on the emergence.

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291. "I concur"
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I think the movie def took a dip in quality from that point on. I wonder if they would have been better off ending the movie with the emergence of Two-Face.

  

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352. "you're right that it was forced"
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but the reference to his time in Internal Affairs and the fact that he was known as "Two-Face" to the cops he investigated gave you a murky background picture as to how he could easily be seduced to break down.
Also like others pointed out his whole speech about what Rome would do during times of crisis in the beginning.

  

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287. "Wasn't she a ballet dancer? (nitpicking i know)"
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Agreed on the Dent/Two-Face thing though. Def another of my biggest complaints.

  

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288. "Say who say what? (check the edit, and thnx)"
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299. "the hell does she have to be mad about?"
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307. "Not her, but somebody else. And I'm going to have to leave it at that."
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Sorry, bro.
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326. "soooooooooooooooo why even bring it up then."
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335. "Because I can"
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>(please don't ask, I'm not talking about it, and yes, she prolly won't read this, but so what).
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377. "I think Nolan gets the blame for the bad action"
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All of his movies suffer from it. The concept of the scene is boring to start. This is Batman and he's got untold amounts of cash to throw at these scenes and all he comes up with is that some cars crashing and a car getting shot at will be exciting enough. The chase scenes in the Bourne films are far out of Nolan's grasp and he has more exciting characters, more technical resources and source material to draw on. Don't blame the editor.

His camera is content to just observe the action rather than take part in it. I just don't think he cares about it at all. Youtube videos from Grand Theft Auto are more exciting than the shit Nolan comes up with.

Nolan just isn't very adept at action.

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383. "RE: I think Nolan gets the blame for the bad action"
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i think it's more because we're more used to stylized type action in films that we're not accustomed to the fight scenes with batman...there's nothing glamourous with batman's fighting skills, he's just comes in there and kick ass...no fantastic looking martial arts, or any type of "wow" factor...and it's mostly because nolan is so strict in wanting realism that those things are stripped away...

a movie like a jason bourne have those "wow" this muthafucka is fuckin' him up type of sequences, which in reality, i cannot SEE those things go down like that....with batman, he fucks people up, but gets fucked up too along the way, which i can respect, but it doens't show any type of excitement in regards of fight scenes

  

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387. "Well if that's the rationale"
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it's boring and incorrect. Not only because the Begins shows us Bruce being trained in exotic, flashy martial arts, but the Bourne flicks are praised because they feel gritty and fairly grounded.

There are plenty of movies with fights between non-superpowered folk, just watch Casino Royale, that come off as way more exciting than anything the Goddamn Batman gets involved in and that's a pretty big flaw in my eyes.

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298. "Some Tom O'Neill food for thought regarding Ledger Oscar talk (swipe)"
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goldderby.latimes.com:

>Is 'The Dark Knight's' Heath Ledger doomed at the Oscars?

Don't get carried away with all of the Oscar buzz for Heath Ledger in "The Dark Knight" that you see in USA Today, Wall Street Journal, Reuters, everywhere. Remember: Only one star has won an Oscar from the grave (Peter Finch, "Network") and roles like the Joker are rarely even nominated.

Maybe this next Oscars factoid may help to put things in more clear perspective. After the beloved Spencer Tracy died in 1967 after giving a dynamic, heartfelt performance in best picture nominee "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner," he was widely expected to win best actor, but lost to Rod Steiger ("In the Heat of the Night"). However, Tracy's de facto widow Katharine Hepburn won best actress for a rather tame turn with little screen time in "Dinner."

Bottom line: Oscar voters wanted to bestow a hug after losing Tracy, yes — but they just didn't want to hug the dead guy.

When Peter Finch passed away, the situation was very different from Tracy's and Ledger's. The latter stars died more than six months before the Oscarcast. Finch died from a heart attack just two weeks before the Golden Globes while he was actively campaigning to stop that juggernaut Robert DeNiro ("Taxi Driver"), who'd swept the film-critics' awards. Oscar and Globe voters were still stunned by Finch's loss when they inked their ballots and they couldn't resist checking off his name.

Heath Ledger bears a striking similarity to James Dean. Both were heartthrob thespians whose promising careers were cut short by tragedy. Dean had two posthumous Oscar nominations. The first — for "Giant" — came nearly half a year after Dean died in a car wreck. The next year he was nommed for "East of Eden" and he lost both times.

When Oscar nominations come out next January, Heath Ledger will have been dead for a year. Given all of the Oscar hubbub he's generating now, I'm sure he'll be on that list of contenders, but can he really win?

Oscar voters aren't wild about campy villain roles in popcorn flicks like "Dark Knight." The only time one got nominated was Al Pacino as Big Boy Caprice in "Dick Tracy" (1990). Jack Nicholson's widely celebrated Joker in "Batman" (1989) — the same role now played by Heath Ledger — was nominated for a Golden Globe, but not an Oscar, which is odd considering how nuts academy members are for Jack. (Nicholson holds the records for most nominations and wins among male actors.)

And Oscar voters don't usually like villainous roles unless the actor rides to victory atop a best-picture sweep like Anthony Hopkins in "The Silence of the Lambs."

But — wait — that old trend may be changing. Just this past year we saw the trophies for best actor and supporting actor go to stars portraying bloodthirsty monsters: Daniel Day-Lewis and Javier Bardem.

And maybe the whole world, even Hollywood, is different today than it was when those other posthumous Oscar examples occurred. If so, then maybe this joker can get the last laugh.
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300. "what a maroon."
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>The only time one got nominated was
>Al Pacino as Big Boy Caprice in "Dick Tracy" (1990).

This motherfucker compared TDK to Dick Tracy.

Yeah, all his theories are out for that. And besides, there aren't enough instances there to even call it a pattern.

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310. "Warner hype machine at work"
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This was a total HYPE machine movie. It was soo not that good. You people who are co signing that this movie was soooo damn good need to stop. The movie was OKAY. It wasn't horrible, and it wasn't Great. It was OKAY. Mediocre BATMAN movie, just like the rest of them.

There were so many holes it was ridiculous. The opening scene was GREAT, after that, it was soooo mediocre. SOME STUFF WAS JUST PLAIN STUPID.

Time Warner owns CNN. CNN gave it an exagerrated glowing review. It was a Warner Bros movie. You Do the Math. HYPE HYPE HYPE. The special effects were weak. Christain Bale's presence was weak and underdeveloped. The Rachel character, boy was she unattractive and unengaging. Freeman did well. Ledger did well. Caine did well. The strength of the movie was the cast. The movie itself - was average at best.

Why do people over exaggerrate a person's abilitiles AFTER they die. Ledger did a solid job, but OSCAR, please. Come on people, stop the sheepherding aimless reviews of this movie and Ledger's performance and save somebody there precious time.

If you are a big Batman or Superhero movie fan, go see the movie. If you aren't that much into the comic- Batman- superhero- side of movies, then save your time and money, and go see something else and ask the industry to stop pulling the okey doke on you. Because this one has okey doke written all over it. And boy, I kind of "wanted" to like this movie, but it was soooo average.




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312. "Fuck you, you arrogant piece of shit!"
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You're really gonna come in here and tell us we're all victims of advertising and PR just because YOU didn't like the movie? Like YOU'RE the only person with any sense in here?

Eat every dick in this post, sir. We liked it, you didn't. That's fine. But don't come in here insulting our intelligence and independence. Go fuck yourself.

Also, including "the actress in this movie wasn't even attractive" really shows how weak your ability to critique a movie fairly is.

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336. "well...i'll agree with maggie not being attractive in this flick"
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and i wonder if it was done purposefully

the bags under her eyes, red eyes in fact, ill fitting evening dress, badly applied lipstick...makeup in general...and oh god her hair


it was all really bad
and the only thing that distracted in the movie
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353. "yea she wasn't attractive"
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561. "RE: well...i'll agree with maggie not being attractive in this flick"
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>and i wonder if it was done purposefully
>
>the bags under her eyes, red eyes in fact, ill fitting evening
>dress, badly applied lipstick...makeup in general...and oh god
>her hair
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>it was all really bad
>and the only thing that distracted in the movie
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341. "RE: Fuck you, you arrogant piece of shit!"
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Whatever dude, I'm keeping it real. And...Fuck you bitch. I'm not telling...... as you say... "US", or your bitch ass you're a victim, if you like it then skippidy fuckin doo to you, I don't care, but this movie is overhyped the fuck out and it doesn't live up to it.

This is the hype machine at work. The movie was okay. It wasn't great and IT WASN'T BAD. It was OKAY. There was nothing new or innovative to warrant the review and the hype. Now that's real. You want this shit to be some cinematic masterpiece, but really it just wasn't. If you a fucking nerdy ass grown ass man comic book lovin ass geek who gets no ass, then you may like the movie a bit more, but for people who don't know who the fuck Bruce Wayne and DC Comics is, but just want to see a good movie, they could probably see something else and enjoy it more.

As far as my Rachel comment, in the movie The Joker stressed how beautiful she was in the movie, plus, a fucking billionaire, Bruce Wayne was supposedly in love with her, so there is relevance to my comment of her not being attractive in the movie as a role. Not as a person, but as far as her playing the role of a chick in a movie whose being sought after by a billionaire AND a fucking successful prosecutor, how she looks makes a difference. They got it wrong. One of the finest, classiest women should have played that role, not that chick. She was very good in SherryBaby, but this role didn't fit her.

You pussy ass fool, you're making personal attacks cuz i didn't think that shit matched the hype its getting shows that YOU can't accept a film critique. Fucking bitchass. Keep it real Skippy the geek, the movie was just fucking mediocre.

For the record I don't hate movies to hate movies. I LOVE movies.
X2 was an example of a comic book based movie that was GOOD AS FUCK on all levels and not just a direct benefit to the HYPE MACHINE. Dont get mad at me if they OVERHYPED the shit out of the movie, and it really ain't all that. Okay - Playa?

Examples of 4 star great movies within there respective genres are:

Dangerous Liasions
Sex, Lies, and Videotape
Crimson Tide
Love Jones
No Country for Old Men
Pulp Fiction
Damage
The Matrix

Dark Knight doesn't come ANYWHERE fucking near these films.








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358. "Don't act like you didn't insult the intelligence of most in here."
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First you say:

"and go see something else and ask the industry to stop pulling the okey doke on you."

then you say:


" I'm
>not telling...... as you say... "US", or your bitch ass you're
>a victim, "

Yeah, that's plea copping. You came in here and told us the hype machine got us just because we loved the movie and you didn't. THAT is the personal attack that I reacted to. Stand by your words or retract them.




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363. "RE: Don't act like you didn't insult the intelligence of most in here."
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>First you say:
>
>"and go see something else and ask the industry to stop
>pulling the okey doke on you."
>
>then you say:
>
>
>" I'm
>>not telling...... as you say... "US", or your bitch ass
>you're
>>a victim, "
>
>Yeah, that's plea copping. You came in here and told us the
>hype machine got us just because we loved the movie and you
>didn't. THAT is the personal attack that I reacted to. Stand
>by your words or retract them.
>
>
>
>
This ain't about insulting anyone's intelligence. The HYPE machine isn't about "intelligence". Everyone can be affected by the Hype machine. If everybody saying the shit is amazing BEFORE you see it, it's not unintelligent to assume the movie is good. It's intelligent to think so, versus a movie that got shitted on by every critic and message board poster they choose to quote. If everybody and they momma shit on a movie, then intelligence tells you to either wait for video or see it at your own risk - that's intelligence, so i'm not insulting anyone's intelligence by suggesting they're wasting our time and money when they OVERHYPE the greatness of a movie like they did with Dark Knight and a person goes out to see it.

It's amazing how you cut my quote just like a HYPEMAN would. Why didn't you paste my entire sentence instead of cutting and pasting off the beginning of my sentence? If you quote someone, you should start from the beginning of their statement, not the middle.

You started this post about how you're waking up at the crack of dawn to go see this movie before you go to work - that shows you're a "fan" of this genre or this series, and that is totally okay. I said earlier, that if you're into this comic book superhero genre then you should see the movie, you'll prolly like it. But if you're not INTO this comic book, superhero genre stuff and don't know who the fuck Bruce Wayne or DC Comics are all that much and wanted to see a good movie regardless of genre, then you may enjoy seeing something else and may feel duped by spending your time and money seeing this movie as a result of the HYPE machine rolling.

I made no personal attack on you. Not unless you are admitting to be part of the Industry that perpetuates this HYPE bullshit of this movie. As I said, "Industry" not James Peach. Once again, you using terms like "you came in here and told us". Man, are you crazy or something? You saying that I came "in here", and told "us", as if i walked in your crib or something. Its a message board. I'm being real and maybe i can save some people a little loot and time if they aren't too much into the genre.

The movie was okay. It wasn't great, not at all great. It also wasn't "bad". It was okay. As I said before, very good cast. Very good opening scene. mediocre special effects. mediocre fight scenes. mediocre plot. no eye candy. no innovation. no advancement within the genre either. No new characters. No interesting gadgets. Another average comic book movie. Nothng special. Just keeping it real man.



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468. "again no and again quit it"
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>You started this post about how you're waking up at the crack
>of dawn to go see this movie before you go to work - that
>shows you're a "fan" of this genre or this series, and that is
>totally okay. I said earlier, that if you're into this comic
>book superhero genre then you should see the movie, you'll
>prolly like it. But if you're not INTO this comic book,
>superhero genre stuff and don't know who the fuck Bruce Wayne
>or DC Comics are all that much and wanted to see a good movie
>regardless of genre, then you may enjoy seeing something else
>and may feel duped by spending your time and money seeing this
>movie as a result of the HYPE machine rolling.

i'm just a casual fan that likes movies
quit trying to box people in like you knnow them
you don't
people are liking to loving this movie
and they are not all 'fanboys'
you don't like it it's enough
your recommendations for others suck it's not opinion it's fact
too many people are seeing it
and
enjoying it for commentary like
oh it's a 'fanboy' type movie
you're assumption is wrong
enough
deal with it
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318. "Apparently CNN was the only people who gave this a good review"
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Did you miss the other 125 positive reviews on rottentomatoes.com???

I mean if you don't like the movie, that's cool, but don't come in here spouting dumb shit like people are only hyped because Time Warner ordered CNN to give it a good review and that was the only positive review.

  

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325. "right? like lets disregard every other rave review"
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and only focus on the one thats owned by the same parent company.

what an idiot.

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319. "and you know when your theory will fail?"
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when Watchmen comes out. Same company. Will FLOP.

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321. "^^^^FIYA^^^^"
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n/m

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461. "He holds Pulp Fiction in high regard so you can get off his dick now"
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470. "HAHAHA^^^FURIOUS^^^"
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Why so angry, bitch?



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474. "HAHAHA PREDICTABLE &^^^REALLY IS^^^ Callin names"
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>
>Why so angry, bitch?

I'm happy son. I liked the movie.

  

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495. "^^^^Jake Gyllenhall in BROKEBACK <---HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
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Why you steamin?

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323. "the people on the imdb.com wants a word with you"
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it's currently at the top spot...surpassing the godfather...something that's rarely done, if ever

  

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327. "And that is complete and utter bullshit, famo"
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>it's currently at the top spot...surpassing the
>godfather...something that's rarely done, if ever

Or are you going to argue that its better than
the fucking Godfather?

LOL

Seriously, STFU


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329. "RE: Warner hype machine at work"
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Sat Jul-19-08 08:57 PM by xbenzive

          

>If you are a big Batman or Superhero movie fan, go see the
>movie. If you aren't that much into the comic- Batman-
>superhero- side of movies, then save your time and money, and
>go see something else and ask the industry to stop pulling the
>okey doke on you.

^Bullshit.

What else do you want the public to see if they're not into comic-books or superheros. You're actually telling people what to see, I respect your opinion, but you seem like a person who just hate a movie just to hate it. Stating theories and whatnot. I mean, you probably hated the movie from the get go, if you weren't merely entertained by anything in the movie, over the top or not, then I can't see what movies do you love. Every movie gets some sort of hype whether it's bad or good, hell, this goes beyond movies, it can transcend to music, art, and fashion. So don't cop out with some conspiracy theory that the industry is controlling us, they've always have some sort of influence.

take a rest.

  

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344. "RE: Warner hype machine at work"
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>>If you are a big Batman or Superhero movie fan, go see the
>>movie. If you aren't that much into the comic- Batman-
>>superhero- side of movies, then save your time and money,
>and
>>go see something else and ask the industry to stop pulling
>the
>>okey doke on you.
>
>^Bullshit.
>
>What else do you want the public to see if they're not into
>comic-books or superheros. You're actually telling people what
>to see, I respect your opinion, but you seem like a person who
>just hate a movie just to hate it. Stating theories and
>whatnot. I mean, you probably hated the movie from the get go,
>if you weren't merely entertained by anything in the movie,
>over the top or not, then I can't see what movies do you love.
>Every movie gets some sort of hype whether it's bad or good,
>hell, this goes beyond movies, it can transcend to music, art,
>and fashion. So don't cop out with some conspiracy theory that
>the industry is controlling us, they've always have some sort
>of influence.
>
>take a rest.
>
>
Ain't no conspiracy theory. Marketing & Hustlin 101, that's all. It may surprise you, but not everybody likes to see comic book and super hero movies. They're cool, but some people rather go for some realistic "drama of life" stuff more. I certainly don't hate movies, i love them a lot. I wanted to really like the movie and after the opening scene i thought the shit was gonna be real good, but then the movie just kind of fell off. I didn't say it was BAD, but it was not GREAT either. It was OKAY. I never said anyone's controlling us, but the hype machine WILL influence what people go see, that's just real.

I enjoyed Hancock more than I enjoyed this movie. In Dark Knight, The fight scenes were average. No new Batman gizmo shit. And tell me how the hell late in the movie he got shot, yet earlier in the movie, bullets were bouncing of of his Batman suit? I mean, I have nothihg against the making of the movie, the shit just wasn't all that. I'm glad the Batman fans got another installment, they'll prolly love it, but it's not some great cinematic piece compared to other movies.

Because of all the ridiculous hype, average moviegoers will expect the movie to real good, but man this shit was just okay.


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354. "ah ok you like lifetime movies"
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then just say so
if you would have went a bit more into why your reasoning is warped
then people would have understood the basis of your reaction

usually folks who like lifetime type make me cry type false dramas
don't jib well with fictional settings
they tend not to realize the irony regarding the basis for their 'real dramas' requires as much manipulation and more hype
hence the term drama
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355. "RE: ah ok you like lifetime movies"
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>then just say so
>if you would have went a bit more into why your reasoning is
>warped
>then people would have understood the basis of your reaction
>
>usually folks who like lifetime type make me cry type false
>dramas
>don't jib well with fictional settings
>they tend not to realize the irony regarding the basis for
>their 'real dramas' requires as much manipulation and more
>hype
>hence the term drama
>~~~~
>When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so
>that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
>~~~~
>
>http://unodostres.etsy.com
>
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Oh, so now you're talking about Lifetime movies? Has the subject changed ALREADY????

Attention span too short for other genres??? Can't stop playing Xbox long enough to watch a drama?

For grown ass man comic book lovin - cats like you, i recommend the movie. For other people who have socialization skills, get pussy, live a life, like a range of films, these people may enjoy something else more and may find Dark Knight to just be another comic book movie. I'm not shitting on the movie, it was just sooo average. It was a hype machine summer movie - that's all. Nothing special.



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359. "is this why you like drama?"
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>Oh, so now you're talking about Lifetime movies? Has the
>subject changed ALREADY????
>
>Attention span too short for other genres??? Can't stop
>playing Xbox long enough to watch a drama?
>
>For grown ass man comic book lovin - cats like you, i
>recommend the movie. For other people who have socialization
>skills, get pussy, live a life, like a range of films, these
>people may enjoy something else more and may find Dark Knight
>to just be another comic book movie. I'm not shitting on the
>movie, it was just sooo average. It was a hype machine summer
>movie - that's all. Nothing special.


you acting like a drama queen right about now
soap opera type flicks would be right up your alley i suppose
they tend to be for the emotionally stunted
and dramatically inclined

note: i'm a woman, i'm not a lesbian, i do not play xbox and my socialization skills are fine, and my taste is varied enough to discern the good and bad qualities of a movie and separate it from my personal taste

unlike yourself apparently

now would you quit hit dogging and accept that your limited view differs from most at this point

a grown man with socialization skills, an active sex life, varied taste in cinema would know
since this is your aim in life i suggest a more proactive approach
cause what you're typing reflects none of that
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360. "RE: is this why you like drama?"
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>
>>Oh, so now you're talking about Lifetime movies? Has the
>>subject changed ALREADY????
>>
>>Attention span too short for other genres??? Can't stop
>>playing Xbox long enough to watch a drama?
>>
>>For grown ass man comic book lovin - cats like you, i
>>recommend the movie. For other people who have socialization
>>skills, get pussy, live a life, like a range of films, these
>>people may enjoy something else more and may find Dark
>Knight
>>to just be another comic book movie. I'm not shitting on the
>>movie, it was just sooo average. It was a hype machine
>summer
>>movie - that's all. Nothing special.
>
>
>you acting like a drama queen right about now
>soap opera type flicks would be right up your alley i suppose
>they tend to be for the emotionally stunted
>and dramatically inclined
>
>note: i'm a woman, i'm not a lesbian, i do not play xbox and
>my socialization skills are fine, and my taste is varied
>enough to discern the good and bad qualities of a movie and
>separate it from my personal taste
>
>unlike yourself apparently
>
>now would you quit hit dogging and accept that your limited
>view differs from most at this point
>
>a grown man with socialization skills, an active sex life,
>varied taste in cinema would know
>since this is your aim in life i suggest a more proactive
>approach
>cause what you're typing reflects none of that
>~~~~
>When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so
>that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
>~~~~
>
>http://unodostres.etsy.com
>
>http://playvicious.com/

Sorry sis, i did assume you were a dude. Ooops. My bad. Just replace pussy with dick and man with woman.

Obviously you have the problem because all I said was that the movie was NOWHERE NEAR the hype and it was okay. THAT apparrently didn't sit well with you and caused you emotional distress. Enough distress for you to start making stuff up like "Lifetime Movies".

You then began to make assumptions too, that I only like "Lifetime" movies. What the hell Lifetime gotta do with it, i dunno. And really don't care. The example list i mentioned doesn't have ANY Lifetime movies listed.

You're the one with a limited view because you have a problem accepting that not everyone thought the movie was as great as YOU thought it was. And a hard time accepting or understanding that everyone doesn't get all giddy from Comic book superhero movies that are just average.

The movie was okay. It wasn't GREAT. Hancock was more enjoyable. X-Men blows Dark Knight out of the water completely. I like ALL kinds of movies, and I was excited about seeing this one, but it just wasn't all that. Sorry if you're struggling with that sweetie. I mean really, what was so great about it? Special effects? Action scenes? Challenging acting performances? Eye candy? Philosophical insight? Great story and plot?




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362. "more drama?"
In response to Reply # 360
Sun Jul-20-08 11:41 AM by lfresh

  

          

>Sorry sis, i did assume you were a dude. Ooops. My bad. Just
>replace pussy with dick and man with woman.

yeah your bad
take your own advice
your drama filled typing shows your lack of maturity

>Obviously you have the problem because all I said was that the
>movie was NOWHERE NEAR the hype and it was okay. THAT
>apparrently didn't sit well with you and caused you emotional
>distress. Enough distress for you to start making stuff up
>like "Lifetime Movies".

no dear
i simply disagree with your incessant whining

>You then began to make assumptions too, that I only like
>"Lifetime" movies. What the hell Lifetime gotta do with it, i
>dunno. And really don't care. The example list i mentioned
>doesn't have ANY Lifetime movies listed.

at this point i could care less for your examples
your opinion of this movie
tells enough


>You're the one with a limited view because you have a problem
>accepting that not everyone thought the movie was as great as
>YOU thought it was. And a hard time accepting or understanding
>that everyone doesn't get all giddy from Comic book superhero
>movies that are just average.

i don't need you to like the movie
but you definitely lack an understanding of the genre
and with that
know your limitations


>The movie was okay. It wasn't GREAT. Hancock was more
>enjoyable. X-Men blows Dark Knight out of the water
>completely. I like ALL kinds of movies, and I was excited
>about seeing this one, but it just wasn't all that. Sorry if
>you're struggling with that sweetie. I mean really, what was
>so great about it? Special effects? Action scenes? Challenging
>acting performances? Eye candy? Philosophical insight? Great
>story and plot?

pretty much
add costuming, set design, post production and cinematography

to you the movie is okay and that is fine
but your reasoning for it is pretty much off base
most people have a better appreciation for the movie
your assumptions as to why are be as off as your assumptions about me
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364. "RE: more drama?"
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>>Sorry sis, i did assume you were a dude. Ooops. My bad.
>Just
>>replace pussy with dick and man with woman.
>
>yeah your bad
>take your own advice
>your drama filled typing shows your lack of maturity
>
>>Obviously you have the problem because all I said was that
>the
>>movie was NOWHERE NEAR the hype and it was okay. THAT
>>apparrently didn't sit well with you and caused you
>emotional
>>distress. Enough distress for you to start making stuff up
>>like "Lifetime Movies".
>
>no dear
>i simply disagree with your incessant whining
>
>>You then began to make assumptions too, that I only like
>>"Lifetime" movies. What the hell Lifetime gotta do with it,
>i
>>dunno. And really don't care. The example list i mentioned
>>doesn't have ANY Lifetime movies listed.
>
>at this point i could care less for your examples
>your opinion of this movie
>tells enough
>
>
>>You're the one with a limited view because you have a
>problem
>>accepting that not everyone thought the movie was as great
>as
>>YOU thought it was. And a hard time accepting or
>understanding
>>that everyone doesn't get all giddy from Comic book
>superhero
>>movies that are just average.
>
>i don't need you to like the movie
>but you definitely lack an understanding of the genre
>and with that
>know your limitations
>
>
>>The movie was okay. It wasn't GREAT. Hancock was more
>>enjoyable. X-Men blows Dark Knight out of the water
>>completely. I like ALL kinds of movies, and I was excited
>>about seeing this one, but it just wasn't all that. Sorry if
>>you're struggling with that sweetie. I mean really, what was
>>so great about it? Special effects? Action scenes?
>Challenging
>>acting performances? Eye candy? Philosophical insight? Great
>>story and plot?
>
>pretty much
>add costuming, set design, post production and cinematography
>
>to you the movie is okay and that is fine
>but your reasoning for it is pretty much off base
>most people have a better appreciation for the movie
>your assumptions as to why are be as off as your assumptions
>about me
>~~~~
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>that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
>~~~~
>
>http://unodostres.etsy.com
>
>http://playvicious.com/


If it is fine that I thought the movie was okay, then keep it moving. Accept when someone else doesn't think that something you like a whole lot was all that. It's okay. I understand the genre, but I understand that not EVERYONE likes the genre the way you might like it. Which is why i recommended it for Batman series and comic buffs who are into the genre. But IF YOU AREN'T SO MUCH INTO THIS GENRE, then you may enjoy something else better, because this movie brings nothing new fresh or innovative to the table to make the average non genre fan like it as much as you do. Some movies do bring that and it works, this one didn't.

it was just not all that, plain and simple. I explained my reasoning and you don't agree with it, okay. You haven't explained yours- but anyway its cool.

It seems like the limitations are yours. You think everybody thinks comic book heroes are the shit, but not everyone feels that way. Expand your limitations a bit ma. Some people see this superhero comic book stuff as childish and remedial, accept that. I enjoy all genres of movies, but i at least respect other people's difference of interest when i talk about a film.


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No pompous re-interpretations.

Sometimes, a movie is just a movie. You work hard for your money.

The decision is yours.

See and enjoy what YOU like."

  

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374. "and here is where you over step yourself, yet again"
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>
>If it is fine that I thought the movie was okay, then keep it
>moving. Accept when someone else doesn't think that something
>you like a whole lot was all that. It's okay. I understand the
>genre, but I understand that not EVERYONE likes the genre the
>way you might like it. Which is why i recommended it for
>Batman series and comic buffs who are into the genre. But IF
>YOU AREN'T SO MUCH INTO THIS GENRE, then you may enjoy
>something else better, because this movie brings nothing new
>fresh or innovative to the table to make the average non genre
>fan like it as much as you do. Some movies do bring that and
>it works, this one didn't.
>
>it was just not all that, plain and simple. I explained my
>reasoning and you don't agree with it, okay. You haven't
>explained yours- but anyway its cool.
>
>It seems like the limitations are yours. You think everybody
>thinks comic book heroes are the shit, but not everyone feels
>that way. Expand your limitations a bit ma. Some people see
>this superhero comic book stuff as childish and remedial,
>accept that. I enjoy all genres of movies, but i at least
>respect other people's difference of interest when i talk
>about a film.



no papa
you, should keep it moving

making a recommendation on a movie and a genre you obviously have extraordinarily little appreciation for
and is beyond you realm of appreciation
and is above your head
is over stepping yourself

it's not for you
granted, fine


but

don't presume to box anyone else in
everyone else can appreciate the movie
for their own reason
your commentary is not the least bit respectful
and hasn't been for this reason
now run along
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380. "RE: and here is where you over step yourself, yet again"
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>
>>
>>If it is fine that I thought the movie was okay, then keep
>it
>>moving. Accept when someone else doesn't think that
>something
>>you like a whole lot was all that. It's okay. I understand
>the
>>genre, but I understand that not EVERYONE likes the genre
>the
>>way you might like it. Which is why i recommended it for
>>Batman series and comic buffs who are into the genre. But IF
>>YOU AREN'T SO MUCH INTO THIS GENRE, then you may enjoy
>>something else better, because this movie brings nothing new
>>fresh or innovative to the table to make the average non
>genre
>>fan like it as much as you do. Some movies do bring that and
>>it works, this one didn't.
>>
>>it was just not all that, plain and simple. I explained my
>>reasoning and you don't agree with it, okay. You haven't
>>explained yours- but anyway its cool.
>>
>>It seems like the limitations are yours. You think everybody
>>thinks comic book heroes are the shit, but not everyone
>feels
>>that way. Expand your limitations a bit ma. Some people see
>>this superhero comic book stuff as childish and remedial,
>>accept that. I enjoy all genres of movies, but i at least
>>respect other people's difference of interest when i talk
>>about a film.
>
>
>
>no papa
>you, should keep it moving
>
>making a recommendation on a movie and a genre you obviously
>have extraordinarily little appreciation for
>and is beyond you realm of appreciation
>and is above your head
>is over stepping yourself
>
>it's not for you
>granted, fine
>
>
>but
>
> don't presume to box anyone else in
>everyone else can appreciate the movie
>for their own reason
>your commentary is not the least bit respectful
>and hasn't been for this reason
>now run along
>~~~~
>When you are born, you cry, and the world rejoices. Live so
>that when you die, you rejoice, and the world cries.
>~~~~
>
>http://unodostres.etsy.com
>
>http://playvicious.com/

You're kinda cute in your own way.

I certainly appreciate this genre of film. I gave an example of a film from this genre that is very good - X-Men.

You responded to MY post, remember? You could have kept it moving by not responding. I was always moving. And to say this film is above anyone's head is just plain funny.

Average movie. Big HYPE. It doesnt match the HYPE. Good for our economy though. This certainly has Wall Street's attention - trust.


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"No pretentiousness.

No pompous re-interpretations.

Sometimes, a movie is just a movie. You work hard for your money.

The decision is yours.

See and enjoy what YOU like."

  

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389. "You're absolutely right."
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It doesn't bring much to the superhero genre, and rips off a lot of attitudes from the crime drama. But that's an argument AGAINST what you're saying, not in SUPPORT of.

it blends the right amount of things to make a Batman movie matter, as opposed to something like Daredevil. if grown, educated women take to this movie, you're a fool to ignore it's reach. It's called transcending. Check into it.

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388. "See what I said? You're continuing to fuck up."
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You even assumed someone was a WHOLE DIFFERENT GENDER. Wow, buddy.

And nobody is wilding out on someone for just not liking the movie. We're shitting on you because you're turning a movie argument into something else entirely, a commentary on the type of people that like this movie.

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386. "How do you do it?"
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Seriously, how do you stay on your OWN dick?

>For grown ass man comic book lovin - cats like you, i
>recommend the movie. For other people who have socialization
>skills, get pussy, live a life, like a range of films, these
>people may enjoy something else more and may find Dark Knight
>to just be another comic book movie.

You're saying wild shit about people you don't know. Intelligence is pattern recognition, but you're seeing a pattern that isn't there. This shit broke records. You really think the person you're describing here is enough of a segment of the population to get those numbers?

Get off that bullshit. You're saying everybody that loved the shit falls into one category: and that's NOW AS AWESOME, SMART, AND SEXUALLY ACTIVE IS YOU.

Seriously, that's what you're saying. Get off that rah rah and have an adult conversation, for all that shit you're talking.

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338. "ledger did more than a 'solid job'"
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He embodied his character, clearly lost himself in the role from minor mannerisms and facial tics to his rhetorical delivery and comic timing his delivery went beyond a mealy mouth 'solid job'

elevated this role quite like nicholson did in the shining
to the next level of performance giving it his all and capturing the essence of this character and giving it a complexity and power all the while driving key point of the plot home

his was at his peak in this role
and if you can't see that than this role is beyond the scope of your comprehension with regards to viewing movies and understanding acting and character development


i'm no expert but even i saw this in this pop. cul. movie
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339. "^^^ Killin' em softly nm"
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________________________________________________________________________
*by request*

(note to the usual tUoOS debaters, this will most likely be my final appearance in this post, so there's no use trying to start an argument... thnx)

  

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409. "RE: Warner hype machine at work"
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You say there are so many plot holes, why don't you elaborate? So many unsupported theses...

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423. "Actually, I'll give you a couple myself."
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#1 who the hell flew the plane that Bruce took to Hong Kong and used to escape? He got on a Bruce Wayne, then was Batman when it saved him.

#2 outside of the fact that most cell phones still wouldn't support over-the-air cellphone downloads, the fact that they simply don't have the hardware to support that radar stuff

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458. "omg"
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>#1 who the hell flew the plane that Bruce took to Hong Kong
>and used to escape? He got on a Bruce Wayne, then was Batman
>when it saved him.

well, the batmobile was running on its own so why not the plane?

>#2 outside of the fact that most cell phones still wouldn't
>support over-the-air cellphone downloads, the fact that they
>simply don't have the hardware to support that radar stuff

really? its a movie man. i can't believe you are complaining about this.

  

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465. "Who's complaining. We were asked for plot holes"
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so I gave them. I love the movie, but my love includes a knowledge of the weak points. No zealotry in Jamesland.

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505. "how the hell did Batman save Rachel"
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but just holding her in his lap as the fell 40 stories?

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557. "his cape slowed them a bit. the sound was built around that"
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502. "yes, warner owns 94% of the critics on RT"
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and clearly no one who was applauding the movie at its conclusion when i saw it sunday at 9 am has an opinion of their own

foh, yeah, the hype was huge, but the movie was good, y u gotta be such a hater?

  

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331. "Movie worth it for Deebo (yes, that Deebo) alone."
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Sweet zombie Jesus, that was one of the best movies I've seen. It's one of my favorites, now. Ledger was good, but eff it, Eckhart needs an Oscar NOW.

  

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333. "i was both awed and saddened by Ledger's performance"
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as the film neared the end i started sighing...esp in the interrogation room

<--- Blame this lady for Nutty.

  

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347. "Why yall hidin Batgirl!! We see it!"
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I went into this movie wondering if we were going to have a Barbara Gordon cameo and find it funny how she kept getting mentioned but not by name and how she was in the scene but her head was down the whole time. I guess they are trying to reserve her character for later.

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349. "I think they're trying to play their cards right"
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without cheesing it up.

  

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371. "Barbara Gordon is the wife of Commissioner Gordon?!"
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in Nolan's version. Am I wrong? The daughter didn't have a name.



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372. "naw they just didn't name the daughter"
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kept her ambiguious. I don't think the wife is named Barbara.

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376. "and showed her barely, kinda shadowy once"
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i was like i wanna see her!
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396. "100% sure the wife was introduce as Barbra"
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I swear I heard her name as Barbra



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412. "ye they did"
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V.

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413. "(sp) Barbara"
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493. "*shrugs* Barbara and Barbara Jr. Problem solved."
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348. "Was there anything at the end of the credits?"
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And I hope they don't bring in both two-face and the riddler for the third movie. People are gonna be comparing it to Forever. They should use Poison Ivy/Catwoman to mess with Bruce's loss of Rachel

  

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350. "I liked it. Heath was brilliant but the rest was a mixed bag"
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Really, every choice Heath made was inspired. The Joker was great and makes the movie worthwhile.

I really dug the ferry stuff, real classy. Freeman, Oldman and Caine are great and add some much needed humanity to the jumbled storyline.

But, the rest? All the same problems the first one had:

Lame action. That chase was a fucking direct copy of the boring one in the first film. All the way down to the canned reaction dialogue the cops spew out. Super lame. The fist fights were better though.

Rachel Dawes. Nobody cares. Batman barely seemed to care. Maggie is a boring actress and she looked real dowdy.

Batman voice. During that final argument with The Joker, Bale could have been huffing helium and it would have come off as only slightly more destructive to the tone of the scene.

Too many characters and not enough Bruce Wayne. There isn't enough interaction between the hero and any other character to give any of his relationships weight. Bruce meets Dent about twice and all they do is make bullshit smalltalk. Batman and The Joker talk exposition before Bale and Ledger have to force home the Batman/Joker relationship in one fleeting scene.

A plot structure really doesn't seem to exist. This movie has all of the issues Spider-Man 3 does. It's juggling too many characters and plots and then has to force them all together. There's no room to breathe, it's all exposition outside of a few gem moments with The Joker. The Joker only gets the attention because of the great performance Heath provided for Nolan.

It's solid overall, mostly because of Heath and general interest in the character, but it hasn't got anything over Ironman or Hellboy II.

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365. "^^^COSIGN!!!"
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>A plot structure really doesn't seem to exist. This movie has
>all of the issues Spider-Man 3 does. It's juggling too many
>characters and plots and then has to force them all together.
>There's no room to breathe, it's all exposition outside of a
>few gem moments with The Joker. The Joker only gets the
>attention because of the great performance Heath provided for
>Nolan.

Cosign

>It's solid overall, mostly because of Heath and general
>interest in the character, but it hasn't got anything over
>Ironman or Hellboy II.

Definitely not

Both of those were better


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375. "^^I'm with this guy"
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390. "RE"
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>Too many characters and not enough Bruce Wayne. There isn't
>enough interaction between the hero and any other character to
>give any of his relationships weight. Bruce meets Dent about
>twice and all they do is make bullshit smalltalk. Batman and
>The Joker talk exposition before Bale and Ledger have to force
>home the Batman/Joker relationship in one fleeting scene.

excellent, excellent point.

>A plot structure really doesn't seem to exist. This movie has
>all of the issues Spider-Man 3 does. It's juggling too many
>characters and plots and then has to force them all together.
>There's no room to breathe, it's all exposition outside of a
>few gem moments with The Joker.

yep, the movie is frantic and pure chaos. Any attempt at manipulating the audience to set up a greater impact for a different scene is pretty much nonexistent or could have been better.

>The Joker only gets the
>attention because of the great performance Heath provided for
>Nolan.

Also true. Just pretend that we got an average performance and EVERYONE would be underwhelmed with the Joker in this. Burton and Jack were MUCH more creative than Nolan and his writers. Like I said before...the Joker airing his own weird commercials >>> showing a hostage on TV. Contaminated products and poison hot air balloons >>> setting up a bunch of bombs (although I agree the ferry set up was clever). A girlfriend with a messed up face and mask also added alot of creepiness to Jack's Joker. Where the hell was Nolan's creativity other than the different stories about how he got his scars?

  

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391. "Yeah, I mean I'm not the biggest fan of the original"
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but at least that Joker was able to provide some interesting set pieces and the opportunity for Bats to do more than punch out some generic goons. The Ferry set-up was nice, I really liked how that played out.

One thing I actually like about Nolan's films is how pulpy the mobsters are. I think it's a little odd that the tone of those characters is weirdly isolated.

The Joker pulls a few creepy jokes and they're good (the pencil, smoke grenade, bomb inside of a henchman), but there was a missed opportunity to go further with it.

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410. "Here's a review I agree with"
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I find more to like in it that she does but she eloquently describes what's wrong with the movie better than I can.

"The Dark Knight"
The most anticipated movie of the summer has arrived -- and Heath Ledger's Joker is nothing to laugh at.

By Stephanie Zacharek

Jul. 17, 2008 | Somewhere between his first hit, the tricky backward teaser "Memento," and his most recent picture, the tricky dueling-magicians teaser "The Prestige," Christopher Nolan began gathering, like a lucky squirrel having stumbled upon a hoard of exquisite nuts, comparisons to Hitchcock. "The Dark Knight" makes me question whether he has actually seen any Hitchcock. It's true that Nolan, like the filmmaker he's so clearly trying to emulate, takes delight in teasing and tricking his audience. But Hitchcock was more than just a tease. He was a visual storyteller who knew how to build complex narratives frame by frame. He'd never use two shots if one would do. Although he used sound brilliantly, the dialogue in a Hitchcock film generally tells us very little; the visuals, and the implied but indelible connections between them, tell us everything. The trickery of Hitchcock is interactive, springing directly from the demands he makes on us: Even when we can't believe our eyes, we have to trust them, because they're all we've got.

"The Dark Knight" is the most anticipated movie of the summer, partly because it's Nolan's follow-up to the fiercely adored "Batman Begins" and partly because it features Heath Ledger's last performance, as the Joker. That makes one good reason to see it. As much as I disliked "Batman Begins," finding myself not just unmoved but bored by its alleged darkness and moral complexity, I concede that it was at least a real movie, with a thought-out structure, a reasonable degree of character development and, most significant, an adherence to visual logic that was at least workmanlike. "The Dark Knight" offers the same degree of murkiness, both visually and thematically, and maybe even a little more. (The cinematographer is, once again, Nolan's frequent collaborator Wally Pfister, working largely in a dank, muted palette of grays and greens.) And Nolan -- who co-wrote the script with his brother, Jonathan, working from a story he conceived with David S. Goyer -- gives us enough multilayered subplots to at least fool us into thinking this is a work of intellectual and moral complexity. But as a piece of visual storytelling, from shot to shot, "The Dark Knight" is a mess. Characters disappear from one locale and show up inexplicably in another, thanks to the magic of editing. At one point, we learn two characters have been abducted, but Nolan doesn't bother to show us who did it or how. (Later, he explains the "who did it" with dialogue -- the lazy way.) At the end, a major character is left hanging, literally, as we are figuratively. If this is genius, give me hackery.

Here's the part of the review where I damn "The Dark Knight" with some faint but sincere praise: There are a number of cool shots in the movie, among them the predictable but nonetheless dramatic image of Christian Bale's Batman perched high atop a building, a solitary figure silhouetted against the inky black of nighttime. The production design (which is, once again, by Nathan Crowley) has a certain spare, gloomy elegance. (The picture was shot partially in Chicago, as was "Batman Begins," and it's a stand-in for a gritty, despairing Gotham, as opposed to the fever-dream Gotham the late Anton Furst gave us in the Tim Burton "Batman" pictures.) There are some grim, clever details, one involving a hidden cellphone and some explosives, and some good performances (more on those later). I saw "The Dark Knight" in an Imax theater, and the pictures on the screen sure were big.

But "The Dark Knight" looks as if it were made from a messy blackboard diagram with lots of circles, heavily underlined phrases ("Duality! Good vs. evil -- in the same person! Kinship between hero and villain!") and crisscrossing arrows that ultimately point to nothing. With "Batman Begins," Nolan assured his audience that he understood that the characters originally created by Bob Kane -- and further developed by the likes of Frank Miller -- were rich, fascinating ones, and they are: It shouldn't be hard to write good stories around them. But what the Nolans have come up with here is just more pretentious poot, dumped onto the screen in a style that pretends to be fresh and energetic but is really only semicoherent. This time, Bale's Batman/Bruce Wayne finds himself involved in a romantic rivalry with the handsome and extremely principled Gotham D.A., Harvey Dent (Aaron Eckhart), who has taken up with Batman's onetime love, assistant D.A. Rachel Dawes. Katie Holmes, who played Dawes in "Batman Begins," has used her newly found Scientologist shape-shifting capabilities to morph into Maggie Gyllenhaal, and the effect is pleasing: Gyllenhaal's Dawes is a tough cookie in a Stanwyck-style bias-cut gown, and the movie feels smarter and more supple when she's on-screen.

Many of the characters from the first movie return here, busying themselves in this or that corner of the plot with little or no consequence: Morgan Freeman is back as the tweedy genius Lucius Fox; Michael Caine, as Alfred, miraculously gives the movie's overserious dialogue some genuine dramatic heft; and Gary Oldman as Lt. Jim Gordon (he's not yet commissioner), so terrific in "Batman Begins," seems lost here -- in one scene, his enunciation was so bad I wondered if he wasn't just trying to underplay the movie's self-important dialogue. (That dialogue includes choice pseudo-topical sound bites like "Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. Some men just want to watch the world burn.")

Nolan moves his characters around the screen, in jagged diagonals and crazy swoops, in an attempt to explore the dark side of human nature. We get robber-clowns in scary masks, Batman look-alikes committing evil deeds, troupes of urban villains that come in all colors and sizes. A lot of stuff is blown up. The violence is swift and brutal -- including a pretty nasty trick involving a pencil -- although Nolan tastefully (and wisely) cuts away sharply at the crucial moments. There's an assortment of perspective shots that create the illusion we're looking -- or falling -- down from the top of some extremely tall buildings. To encourage thoughtful beard stroking among his audience, Nolan throws in a "Lifeboat"-style (Who should die first? Me or the other guy?) plot device.

There's no dramatic arc in "The Dark Knight" -- only a series of speed bumps. The moments in the movie that should be the most dramatic are glanced over so quickly that we barely have time to register what has happened. I'm not sure the actors know what's going on, either. Bale was a tolerable Batman the first time around, even though he ultimately failed to dissolve the distance between us and that mask. Here, he tries to build on that earlier performance. In "The Dark Knight," Batman is misunderstood and mistrusted by the people of Gotham, who see him as a vigilante and not a hero who strives to protect them. Bale is slightly better as Bruce Wayne -- he's such a good actor that he's capable of conveying the deepest anguish in a single, flashing blink. But his Batman, lumbering through the movie in a suit that's supposed to be lighter than previous incarnations, is a flat, dull creature, with no new tricks up his gauntlets: Playing this moody superhero, Bale has run out of shades of gray to work with.

Nolan has made some good casting choices here: Eckhart -- whose character undergoes his own bleak transformation -- has a friendly country-boy face that's also unnervingly inscrutable. But the finest moments in "The Dark Knight" belong to Ledger as the Joker. Bob Kane has acknowledged that the Joker was inspired by Conrad Veidt's character -- a gentle-spirited loner with a carved-in smile -- in the piercing 1928 silent "The Man Who Laughs." Ledger's performance, stylistically, is nothing like Veidt's, and the conception of the character is completely different. But Ledger, behind that smudged, chalky makeup, and with that cruel, scar-tissue leer, does channel some of Veidt's poignancy -- though he lets us see it only in flashes, like the flanks of a fish in a muddy pond. There's desperation beneath the Joker's cruelty, and Ledger shows it to us in his hunched-up walk, and in the slurry precision of his speech.

The performance is unsettling and difficult to watch, partly because it's impossible to remove it from the context of Ledger's death. But it's a fine performance regardless, and I wish the movie around it were more deserving. "The Dark Knight" may be somebody's idea of a masterpiece, but I doubt it would be Hitchcock's. Nolan may want us to believe in the darkness that lurks within each of us, but instead of leading us to it visually, he chops it up and sets it out in front of us, a grim, predigested banquet. The difference between Nolan and his idol is that Hitchcock demanded that we trust ourselves; Nolan demands that we trust only him.

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351. "Joker's final monologue was brilliant....."
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It may be the greatest single scene I've ever seen in a Christopher Nolan film. Anyone notice how the Joker's turning upside-down correlated with how you felt about what he was saying? The more the camera turned right-side-up, the more I was agreeing with the Joker.

  

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357. "Wow! I loved it. The movie was just incredible."
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I can't wait to see it again.
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418. "DAMN!!!"
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so that beats spiderman 3 by about 4 million then to take the top spot for 3 day gross. awesome.

  

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422. "no special weekend either, just a regular weekend"
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429. "SM3 coppin pleas tho, sayin it sold less tickets"
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cuz theres like a 20-40 cent price difference in tickets

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482. "NOPE! NUMBERS BIGGER! NOLAN! BAIL! KNOW DA (heath) LEDGE!"
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366. "Does Nolan have a hard on for The Wire?"
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There was stuff about cellular triangulation, RICO cases, Gyllenhaal was in the Major Crimes Unit...

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379. "the problem with rachel dawes"
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i'm having trouble blaming maggie
simply because she's such a good actress
but also i realize i have very little... like for most of the female characters in comic strip and as they've been written and subsequently played



is this a problem most female comic characters have?
or maybe i should say where there is a single lead superhero...hrm
they are outdated, their roles haven't been upgraded to interesting characters and simply seemed to be used as plot devices


yeah i'm having trouble blaming maggie
she seemed almost restrained
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384. "i mentioned this earlier"
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i think rachel dawes was MEANT to be a dull character...someone that you clearly feel a distance which is the perfect metaphor between her and bruce wayne

even though in this movie she has an important role, the fact that maggie and katie played her so much the SAME WAY makes me believe that her character is intentionally suppose to be the way it's portrayed (both of them are rather good actresses in spite)

  

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398. "ok"
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>i think rachel dawes was MEANT to be a dull
>character...someone that you clearly feel a distance which is
>the perfect metaphor between her and bruce wayne


hrrrm
but wouldn't some sort of attachment for the audience have given the two face character more sympathy from the audience
it actually detached me from the act a bit
well... other than a general
'oh that joker was devious'

>even though in this movie she has an important role, the fact
>that maggie and katie played her so much the SAME WAY makes me
>believe that her character is intentionally suppose to be the
>way it's portrayed (both of them are rather good actresses in
>spite)

there were similarities
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424. "HAHAHAHA THE GRINDHOUSE PLEA COP STRIKES AGAIN!!!!!!!!"
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

"IT WAS SUPPOSED TO SUCK"

"THAT ROLE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BORING"

BWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


THERE ARE PLENTY OF WAYS FOR A CHARACTER
TO BE SUBDUED, AND PASSIVE AND NOT BE BORING!!!!

SHE IS BORING BECAUSE HER FUCKING CHARACTER
WAS WRITTEN POORLY AND BECAUSE GYLLENHALL IS
NOT THE TYPE OF ACTRESS THAT CAN BREATHE LIFE
INTO A ROLE!!!

Compare that to Alfred: Cain KILLS the FEW SCENES
HE'S IN!!! AND HIS CHARACTER IS *VERY* SUBDUED
AND PASSIVE!!!

SAME WITH FREEMAN!!!! FREEMAN KILLED HIS
SCENES

STOP FUCKING COPPING PLEAS FOR THE FLAWS

THIS SHIT HAD MAJOR FLAWS

DEAL WITH IT, FAM

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442. "yumping yehosephat"
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yes there are flaws
we still really liked the movie
we still think it's great
duh
i mean really dude
so extreme
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445. "Huh? She's what drives Dent crazy and is Bruce Wayne's true love"
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She should have been the type of girl that people would have killed over. She most definitely shouldn't have been dull. That's just silly.

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392. "Scarecrow question"
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I loved the movie however I didn't understand this at all.

Why was he in the movie at all?
what was the reason?


Shouldn't he be in prison?

Why is he helping Batman fight crime when a year earlier he was evil?

  

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394. "basically to close a tie-in"
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the scarecrow was still on the loose in the end of batman begins, so it was a quick resolution before leading up to the meat of the story....

also, it was neccessary to show the wannabe batmen...because it's part of the bigger story

  

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395. "RE: basically to close a tie-in"
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>the scarecrow was still on the loose in the end of batman
>begins, so it was a quick resolution before leading up to the
>meat of the story....
>
>also, it was neccessary to show the wannabe batmen...because
>it's part of the bigger story


Yeah I totally understand the Batman wannabees but I dont understand why he is now fighting crime.

  

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397. "who you talking about???"
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the scarecrow??? the scarecrow was making a deal with the mobsters and the fake batmen ran in to stop the deal....batman shows up to stop the fake batmen in interfering as well as stop the scarecrow at the sametime....

  

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417. "were you actually watching??"
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and listening for that matter? it was pretty clear what happened during that sequence.

>>the scarecrow was still on the loose in the end of batman
>>begins, so it was a quick resolution before leading up to
>the
>>meat of the story....
>>
>>also, it was neccessary to show the wannabe batmen...because
>>it's part of the bigger story
>
>
>Yeah I totally understand the Batman wannabees but I dont
>understand why he is now fighting crime.

  

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425. "He wasnt he threw his mask off and faked like he"
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was one of the fake batmans

  

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402. "Wow..."
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Real shit... I need to see that shit again in Imax.

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Yeah, I need to visit an IMAX theater ASAP to rewatch TDK.

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406. "SON. Shit was INCREDIBLE."
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Best comic book movie ever?

  

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415. "Just got back, it's dope as hell"
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Didn't want to read through 400 some replies now, so I'll just assume everything I like about it has been mentioned.

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419. "Good not great and definitely too long"
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The two major beefs were too many monologues and the Two-Face storyline. Just when the action was getting going and the film started to roll along someone would go off on a long monologue on heroism or justice. By the time the Joker was babbling at the end, I'd had enough.

The Two-Face story just didn't work overall. I thought they needed to show Dent as more of a white knight instead of just telling me it over and over again (and having him give a monologue about justice). The way it was now he flipped a little too easily. I think the film would have been better without him. Especially at the end it seemed a bit tagged on. The Joker blew up half of Gotham but losing Harvey Dent is what's really going to upset people? Really?

It was still entertaining, I liked to tone and cinematography and it was better than Batman Begins but I don't think it's an all-time classic like some people make it out to be.

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430. "^^^Hit in on the head. The length and Two Face ruined this one."
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It starts at an A

It loses a full grade because of the Two Face
storlyine, which was distracting and took the
momentum out of the story.

It loses half a grade because its too goddamn
long

I'll give it a B-minus

  

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438. "I'll agree with this"
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I liked the arc of Harvey Dent but his inclusion as Two Face was an afterthought and packed into a movie with already too much plotting. He could've been shown to do more things (instead of ridiculous fluff like him disarming that mobster in court) to help Gotham instead of us being told about his great deeds.

And those speeches were my biggest beef with the movie. Some of the material was covered 2 or 3 times. Alright, I get it already. Evil evil evil.

That said, I think the movie is tremendously entertaining for 2 hours and I'm eager to see it again on IMAX.

  

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504. "upon second viewing, I have to agree"
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- the monologues *really* drag on
- Two Face's storyline wears the film down, a lot

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420. "BEST MOVIE EVER!"
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JAESCOTT777
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426. "I think it is one of the GOAT comic movies"
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Mon Jul-21-08 07:29 AM by JAESCOTT777

  

          

at 1st reaction was that its WAS
I am going to see it again at the IMAX and i can make a final call

but i thought it was amazing

I would like another
but its almost impossible to top this one

my top comic movies prior to this:

1.Spiderman 1
2.Batman Begins
3.X2
4.Blade 2

TDK to Batman is Empire Strikes Back to star wars

  

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427. "This is what happens when an unstoppable force hits an immovable object"
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probably the best line of the movie and would have set the tone for the movie franchise if not for Ledgers death.

Very good movie.....Heath's Joker is fucking awesome and he stole the movie hands down.

  

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432. "terrible movie"
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how not to tell a story 101.

thats what sums up the movie.

Nolan(s) f*cked this movie up. From the poor action sequences, the too many storylines

Heath Ledger's death is the star of this film. Its what carries it. The irony of it all is that Ledger's death has given life to this film which is a corpse.

In this movie, you don't give a f*ck about batman. you simply don't. its the first movie where the main star, is somebody you just don't give a f*ck about. Plus, Urban Meyer was average any way in the movie. He should stick to coaching football and the spread. Plus, his suit sucks, the mobile and motorcycle sucks. its like "go away we want to see the joker". And the f*ckin bat halitosis. Jeezus. Call Alfred and get that n*gga a tic-tac.

and, there are plenty of good looking sexy white women out there, and they pick this ugly ass chick in rachel? First the Spider Man sh*t with ugly ass Kirsten (big titties notwithstanding). Betty from Revenge of the Nerds was sexier than Kirsten. now this Batman Sh*t with Maggie??!! All the pussy in the world Bruce could buy, and he and Harvey are fighting over her?? Is the pussy that good?

Speaking of Harvey, that coin flip sh*t was overkill. After the 2nd time, it was not needed. In fact, his character after he becomes 2-face is not needed. If you want to setup characters for a follow-up, thats not how you do it. Nolan should have studied Spider-Man 2, not Spider-Man 3.


Now to the few good points of the movive:

1. The opening sequence, school bus heist.

Man that sh*t was ill. Illest part of the whole movie. It went all downhill from there.

2. The Joker material and dialogue

Thats what made the movie. Not Heath as much. The dialogue/exposition gave you the window of who he was, how he thought, and how he came to be was tight. Heath's death gives this character more depth, not Heath. The material provided for him was stronger than the actor himself, imo. I think you could put somebody else in that role, and have similar results.

3. The Score

tight. nice. especially The Joker's theme music with the guitar like when he explains how he got the scars.

Bad movie, bad writing, bad storytelling, the Joker material was the only highlight.

<--- we've got bush!

  

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434. "RE: terrible movie"
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>2. The Joker material and dialogue
>
>Thats what made the movie. Not Heath as much. The
>dialogue/exposition gave you the window of who he was, how he
>thought, and how he came to be was tight. Heath's death gives
>this character more depth, not Heath. The material provided
>for him was stronger than the actor himself, imo. I think you
>could put somebody else in that role, and have similar
>results.


^maybe.

we won't know, but going as far as saying that Heath didn't make The Joker his own, I don't know?! You claim that if you put somebody else in that role, you'll have a similar result. That's like claiming for any role. I doubt you'll have the same result if you put say...Johnny Depp, or anyone in that matter. I mean, Heath was the actor, shouldn't he get credit for acting like The Joker, even more, you forget it was Heath. Just like when Depp took upon as Edward Scissorhands, you forgot that was Depp. Or Nicholson as Jack Torrance. I don't know, many people might be against this statement.



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435. "RE: terrible movie"
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You're supposed to disappear into a character. That's the standard, but we see so little of it (done well) that people tend to get overexcited when they're reminded of what the craft really looks like. Heath was a good actor and disappeared into all his roles, as he should have. His Joker doesn't seem to be above and beyond anything than a good actor doing his job.

  

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436. "Wrong"
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Again, im not a big Heath fan.

But, really, it was all his performance as far as the Joker is concerned.

The dialogue in the movie in general wasn't that great, it was one of the weaker links in the movie. He had to pull off creepy because the Joker really didn't do too much: if he was continually stabbing people with pencils and knife stunts then perhaps. But most of it was him grabbing someone, saying a few simple words of threats, and that's it. I can only think of really one good scene of joker dialogue, and that was when he was in the room with Dent. The interrogation scene was more of batman being ultra violent during the speech rather then anything written particularly well.

  

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437. "what did he do that nobody else could do?"
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the voice inflections and laugh? put on a nurses outfit?

thats oscar-worthy?

nobody else could do that?

seriously?

because thats all he had.

the makeup was provided for him.

the dialogue was provided for him.

you wanna talk great peformances, you own the character. Heath did not own that character. He was a tenant. he payed his rent on time and all, but come on.

you could put a decent actor in that same role, and wouldn't miss a beat. there wasn't much there to do in the first place.




>Again, im not a big Heath fan.
>
>But, really, it was all his performance as far as the Joker is
>concerned.
>
>The dialogue in the movie in general wasn't that great, it was
>one of the weaker links in the movie. He had to pull off
>creepy because the Joker really didn't do too much: if he was
>continually stabbing people with pencils and knife stunts then
>perhaps. But most of it was him grabbing someone, saying a
>few simple words of threats, and that's it. I can only think
>of really one good scene of joker dialogue, and that was when
>he was in the room with Dent. The interrogation scene was
>more of batman being ultra violent during the speech rather
>then anything written particularly well.

<--- we've got bush!

  

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439. "It's unfair tho"
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>the makeup was provided for him.
>
>the dialogue was provided for him.
>

For every acting job they provide the makeup and dialogue. Unless real acting=improv.

>you wanna talk great peformances, you own the character. Heath
>did not own that character. He was a tenant. he payed his rent
>on time and all, but come on.
>
>you could put a decent actor in that same role, and wouldn't
>miss a beat. there wasn't much there to do in the first
>place.

The fact there wasn't much to do in the first place is why I give it too him. He couldda hammed his way, full villian sneer, through the whole role. He didn't. He had very little one liners or snappy comebacks, what made him creepy was his actual acting as you said: vocal inflections, character tics, etc.

He struck a good chord between, creepy, weird, and menace. Who do you think could have knocked it out of the park? Old school Dinero would have been all menace. Pacino, all weird.

  

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444. "RE: It's unfair tho"
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>The fact there wasn't much to do in the first place is why I
>give it too him. He couldda hammed his way, full villian
>sneer, through the whole role. He didn't. He had very little
>one liners or snappy comebacks, what made him creepy was his
>actual acting as you said: vocal inflections, character tics,
>etc.

that was required. he is getting props for doing his job.

he did a good character sketch.

great acting? no.

oscar-worthy? hell no.

>
>He struck a good chord between, creepy, weird, and menace.

reaching. there wasn't enough material, as you agreed, to do that.

an SNL skit, thats what it was.

>Who do you think could have knocked it out of the park? Old
>school Dinero would have been all menace. Pacino, all weird.

Pacino, when he was that age, could knock it out of the park.

<--- we've got bush!

  

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446. "Pacino, Hopkins and DeNro, huh?"
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Sounds like good company to be in.

  

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517. "RE: It's unfair tho"
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Gat damnit! Jambone i TOTALLY agree with you on this movie. The HYPE machine is in full effect.


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479. "apparently Heath applied his own makeup"
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<--- Blame this lady for Nutty.

  

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449. "Only thing I agree with is this"
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>and, there are plenty of good looking sexy white women out
>there, and they pick this ugly ass chick in rachel? First the
>Spider Man sh*t with ugly ass Kirsten (big titties
>notwithstanding). Betty from Revenge of the Nerds was sexier
>than Kirsten. now this Batman Sh*t with Maggie??!! All the
>pussy in the world Bruce could buy, and he and Harvey are
>fighting over her?? Is the pussy that good?

I kept thinking how happy I was not to be looking at that nose on an IMAX screen


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455. "^^^^^^^YOGA FIYA!!!"
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YOUZ MY NIGGA IN PTP




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433. "Oscar talk a bit much"
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Hollywood does not check on comic book movies like that. Oscar talk will fizzle when the industry's need for a 'moment' confronts its moralizing over giving a dead, drug addict their top honor. Ain't going to happen. Even a nomination would be a stretch.

Heath was good, but if they'd asked that of Nicholson in the original, he would've brought it. De Niro and Hopkins in their prime were this character. Just saying, it's not like we haven't seen this level of sociopathic terror before. The overall caliber of the performances required Heath's Joker to be nothing less than what it was. I left the theater (@ 4:30 this morning) much more impressed w/Aaron Eckhart.

Maggie did what she could, but this genre (and most others outside of the indie circuit) doesn't know how to write strong, female roles. I ache at the thought of them introducing Catwoman.

And Bruce Wayne just gets weaker and weaker. Batman is such an obtuse character when done by Bale (who I love, but he's like that in just about everything I see him in) that at least the alter ego could have a little more personality. Instead you get these random playboy moments that seem kind of silly.

  

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447. "2 things:"
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1. the random playboy moments: that's Bruce Wayne's facade he has to keep up, cos no one would believe Bruce would be someone like Batman. plus he probably enjoys it too (who the fuck wouldn't??). that's definitively "Bruce", a polar opposite to Batman. unless you have absolutely no prior inkling of the Batman mythos in all its incarnations, it makes perfect sense to include some scenes of Bruce Wayne traveling with an entourage of beautiful babes in helicopters n shit, or buying out a hotel.

2. lack of strong female characters in comic book films: that's because there are none in the original source material strong enough to draw on in the first place (i'm not counting Batgirl, Tahlia or Catowman here, speaking strictly about love interests). i think having Rachel Dawes there was a mistake from the get-go, cos somehow everything will revolve around her (in BB, he goes to great lengths to save her life from the hands of Scarecrow's toxin, in TDK she gets thrown off a building & is subsequently blown up). in an otherwise cool film franchise so far, i hated that they had to cast a love interest for the hero. even if 99% of the screen-time is given to the boys, it's worth doing away with the requisite female lead all-together, cos they just don't serve to improve comic book films at all (and that's not some buried sexism coming to the fore, that's just something i think films of this genre simply don't need).

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456. "COSIGN!!!!!!"
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>Hollywood does not check on comic book movies like that.
>Oscar talk will fizzle when the industry's need for a 'moment'
>confronts its moralizing over giving a dead, drug addict their
>top honor. Ain't going to happen. Even a nomination would be a
>stretch.
>
>Heath was good, but if they'd asked that of Nicholson in the
>original, he would've brought it. De Niro and Hopkins in their
>prime were this character. Just saying, it's not like we
>haven't seen this level of sociopathic terror before. The
>overall caliber of the performances required Heath's Joker to
>be nothing less than what it was. I left the theater (@ 4:30
>this morning) much more impressed w/Aaron Eckhart.
>
>Maggie did what she could, but this genre (and most others
>outside of the indie circuit) doesn't know how to write
>strong, female roles. I ache at the thought of them
>introducing Catwoman.
>
>And Bruce Wayne just gets weaker and weaker. Batman is such an
>obtuse character when done by Bale (who I love, but he's like
>that in just about everything I see him in) that at least the
>alter ego could have a little more personality. Instead you
>get these random playboy moments that seem kind of silly.
>


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457. "I see ALL THE PEOPLE WHO THINK FOR THEMSELVES showed up TODAY"
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Props to Jambone and Candice

Yall are TEARING THIS OVERRATED ASS MOVIE TO
SHREDS




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462. "I see you're still mad its getting better reviews & numbers than Hancock"
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467. "he's a sad individual"
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489. "he wants to see the world burn"
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516. "and put a smile on our faces"
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469. "Nope, I hope Dark Knight does huge numbers."
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Good for it

Just like Titanic did

It just sucks, like Titanic did

Don't mean it can't make cheddar

I'm happy for it

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480. "If it sucks, why'd you give it a B minus."
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You're in here trying to kill the movie verbally, and then grading it with a letter that usually implies "pretty good".

  

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490. "That was after my first viewing. Its a solid 'C' now."
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>You're in here trying to kill the movie verbally, and then
>grading it with a letter that usually implies "pretty good".

After my second viewing, I like Ledger's Joker better,
but the think overall movie is much, much, worse.


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501. "lmao at you seeing a movie u are hating on so much twice"
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507. "Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier!"
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514. "Oh, I missed it on IMAX the first time."
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And bad as it is, its visually appealing enough
to be seen on IMAX.

So time 2 was on IMAX.

And I didn't pay the second time.

And I have a big dick.

Not really relevant, but sorta is.


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519. "Post 430 was made after you said you saw it again though."
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And you gave it a B minus again. Just saying. If you don't like it, cool, that's your right, just be consistent.

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525. "I'm cool with a C+"
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I'll give it that

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481. "boooOOOoooOOOooo"
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i thought of that myself

<--- Blame this lady for Nutty.

  

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499. "boooOOOoooOOOooo"
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I copied that from someone else, but I still mean it.

. . .
psn: sirius_fruits

but that shit's stupid though.

  

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463. "It couldn't live up to the hype, but I liked it"
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1) i was distracted by the chicago background. As a movie though I do think it showcases Chicago as best as any moive could since the Blues Brothers.

2) when they were filming the final scene I was downtown going to see The Departed. I thought that was cool. And I remember seeing people running around the construction site and I could of sworn I saw people hanging off the side of it.

3) This was a great expostion of how one actor can steal a movie. Ledger did a phenomenal job but I felt it was hit or miss. Sometimes he was on...others....not so much. More on than not though.

4) The story itself was slightly non sequitor and that is evidenced well by the first scene. Cool shot with the cameo....batmans jumping out of nowhere shooting guns mixed with the fast panning and cutting....meh.

5) Long. 20/20 Hindsight...Dent should of "disappeared" and that of been it for his character. That saves a good bit of screen time for better expostion into Joker.

6) Action wise. Impeccable. but it's true....more gadgets would of been nicer. It was one BIG gadget that was glanced over with an explanation except for it being an improvement on what was done earlier.


All in all it's a flawed movie but still a good movie. But there is no way it could of lived up to the internet generated hype. I seriously went in thinking I was going to come out having seen jesus or in dire need of a clothes change.

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473. "Question: What was the point of the dude knowing who Batman was?"
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Did they really need that part? Does he pop up somewhere else in the future?

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478. "What I took from that scene...."
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You have a whole department in one of the biggest corporations that no one knows about but has a huge budget etc etc, someone is bound to do some digging. The scene in TDK shows how Fox would have handled the situation when brought upon him so no movie-goer complains "Cmon, someone has to be able to find out Bruce Wayne is Batman"

  

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610. "Correct."
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And not only that, but it also established that Lucius Fox *is* willing to lie for Bruce... but only up to a certain line, which was crossed when Batman rigged the entire city's cell phones with the sonar...
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483. "i got a feeling reese plays a larger role in the next movie"
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because of the fact he KNOWS his identity, also the fact he DEFINITELY have a grudge...it's obvious that he plays a much more important role in the 3rd one

  

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487. "RE: i got a feeling reese plays a larger role in the next movie"
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>because of the fact he KNOWS his identity, also the fact he
>DEFINITELY have a grudge...it's obvious that he plays a much
>more important role in the 3rd one

No that story is done I think. When bruce saved his life I think that put an end to that.

  

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503. "yeah"
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when Bruce saved him that truck the two shared a knowing look

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511. "bruce "saved" his life, but...."
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played it off like it wasn't intentional.....he came off as an asshole, after the fact

either way...batman's an unpopular individual by the end of the movie, and reese KNOWS his identity

i'm quite certain that plays a significant part in the next one

  

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522. "Did you NOT catch the fact that they nodded to eachother?"
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551. "RE: Did you NOT catch the fact that they nodded to eachother?"
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Yeah its over. The story served its purpose.

  

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492. "Haha you STAY COPPING PLEAS FOR PLOTHOLES!!"
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>because of the fact he KNOWS his identity, also the fact he
>DEFINITELY have a grudge...it's obvious that he plays a much
>more important role in the 3rd one

That shit was STUPID and a WASTE OF TIME

LOL

It don't play no role and if it does, its stupid

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528. "Sez the guy who makes up his own definition for B movies"
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529. "^^^^Jake Gyllenhall in BROKEBACK <---HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
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533. "Yep. I'm havin some furious favre callin you out on your dumb shit"
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>You stay furious, I stay making you more
>furious

Furious Favre

  

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536. "^^^^Jake Gyllenhall in BROKEBACK <---HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
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>Furious Favre

You throw interceptions like Favre

Sound old and bitter like Favre too

Just saying

I stay picking off your posts and taking it to the
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531. "It was in order to make a long movie longer."
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484. "is it too late to talk about the CHAMPAGNE?"
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If you notice during the Dent fundraiser, both Bruce and The Joker spill their champagne out of their glasses. Bruce presumably to keep his senses sharp as Batman, while The Joker does it in a more gag/accidental manner. But they both do it.

My friends' reaction to this has across the board been: Why do you even notice shit like that?

But I know my eagle eyed film dissecting bretheren on PTP noticed it too.

I thought it was a pretty key moment of the story, actually. I mean thematically, not in the sense that the champagne will return in Batman 3 as the main villain.

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485. "lol, can you just imagine the press release?"
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>I thought it was a pretty key moment of the story, actually. I
>mean thematically, not in the sense that the champagne will
>return in Batman 3 as the main villain.


"August 1, 2008 *For Immediate Release*

Warner Bros. Pictures (A TimeWarner Company), Legendary Pictures, and Syncopy today announce the signing of Writer-Producer-Director Christopher Nolan to the third installment of the box office record-breaking Batman series. Nolan has agreed to co-write, co-produce and direct the third film, which will be released in the summer of 2011. Principal actors Christian Bale, Michael Caine, and Morgan Freeman are all scheduled to return as well.

'It is a great thrill to continue on with the Batman saga that we have started with Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, and I am eager to get started right away on what should be a thrilling and thought-provoking conclusion to the trilogy that we have created,' Nolan said at a brief press conference.

When asked which possible villains he would be using for this third film, Nolan simply replied, "Champagne." As confused reporters looked around the room, he repeated the word again. When pressed by Devin Fatasshi at geekdick.com about the fact that no such villain exists in the Batman universe, and inquired if this would be a new villain, Nolan replied, "Yes. Champagne." When asked if this villain would be male or female, Nolan replied, "It's champagne. Plain old champagne. Not a male or a female, or even an alien, just champagne. Not wine, not wine coolers, not Champale. Champagne. And I can assure you that champagne will be the most awesome villain you're ever going to see. Champagne will make The Joker look like the pink Care Bear in comparison."

As the reporters continued to remain puzzled by the news, Nolan announced that he had hoped to complete with David S. Goyer a story for the as-yet-untitled third film by the end of the year, and a screenplay with his brother Jonathan by next summer, with an eye on production starting in October 2009... he then announced that he would be taking no further questions and quickly exited the room..."
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486. "</POST>"
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LOL!
LOL!

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488. "lol!"
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497. "Bruce dropped Champagne off the balcony... but we never saw it land."
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538. "*DEAD*"
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n/m

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500. "I'm tempted to write Devin Fatasshi's response to this news"
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508. "one of the best little wrinkles in the movie"
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Ledger killed that scene. It's hilarious when he asks a few random people where Harvey is too.

  

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539. "lol i caught that too."
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there were some good moments with drinks in the film...

dent taking the shot at the bar and having it spill out of the side

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541. "I noticed both of those, but didn't put them together"
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well done.

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498. "Excellent movie. Will watch again."
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Don't have much more to add.

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509. "Question about Two-Face *Spoiler*"
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*Spoiler*













I have a question about the confrontation between Two-Face and Batman and Gordon at the end. I was talking about this with my girlfriend and I seem to remember that Two-Face flips the coin before he shoots Batman, and that it comes up as Heads (i.e. not defaced) side of the coin but that he still shoots Batman. Am I wrong about this? I'm going to see the movie again, but this is eating away at me. I remember quite clearly thinking WTF? at that moment and wondering why he shot him after he flipped and it was heads. Did I just see it wrong or what?

  

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510. "You're right."
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I saw it last night and the clean heads came up but he shot regardless.

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513. "he didn't kill batman so technically it's correct"
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but i have to watch it again if he intentionally meant to kill him, or shot him in spite of whut the coin said....

but the coin toss was either batman lives or he dies...and he lives so technically it's right, but i dunno if his intent was to kill...

also, remember he shot him in the leg....

  

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542. "haha aat "Jekyll Hyde" asking that"
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599. "i noticed it too, and its one of my fav little parts. let me explain:"
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the fact the he spirals to the point where he stops even obeying the coin shows 2 things:

A: an apparent increased feeling of this "keep it unpredictable" streak he's fallen into

and at the same time, paradoxically

B1: an actual increase of his own *Predictability* (he starts reverting back to calling the shots via his own mind, rather than chance).

or

B2: a true flat-out abandon of any connection between thought and action, in the vein of A.

i'm at work, juggling browser windows, so i hope i probably just made a very disjointed attempt at conveying what i mean, but i hope you can catch my drift lol

  

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518. "OH -- and the "resolution" to the fundraiser scene??!!? Cmon!!"
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That was pretty much the moment the movie clicked over from really good to just okay for me.

Here you have the Joker and his entire gang crashing a socialite's fundraising party, on the prowl for Harvey Dent, which is broken up by Batman, until Joker throws Rachel out of the window. So Batman jumps out, leaving the Joker upstairs with a crowd full of super rich hostages, along with Harvey Dent stashed away somewhere inside the party, and ...

and
ummm...
and
ummmmm...
*stares at shoes*
well

AND THAT'S THE END OF THE FUCKING SCENE??!!?

Like -- okay, scene over. Batman landed with Rachel and said, "Harvey's safe." We're done here. No reason to show that Harvey is safe. No reason to explain how the Joker might have exited the large party. No reason to do anything besides just edit to whatever implausible Joker scheme you want to get to next. I mean, you can't give me a two second shot of the Joker scrambling for the elevators while Harvey emerges safely or something? Dropping another playing card or some shit?

The biggest head-scratcher for me is -- editing that B-grade ACTUALLY showed up in the "biggest" movie of the Summer? You're telling me you didn't get one test screening comment card about that or nothing? This highly lauded film has such a clear and obvious editing gaff right in the middle and people just keep on munching on their popcorn like nothing happened?

And obviously that's a lot to ruin a whole movie, but that was basically the point where it clicked from "Damn -- this Batman is SICK" to "Oh god -- Nolan's a fucking hack. How am I the only one who sees this? Did we all just see that scene?" It felt like a fucking ad break or some shit with no resolution on the other side of the commercials. It was obscenely bad.

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520. "the movie's already 2 1/2 hrs long...i'm SURE things have to be cut out"
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you mean to tell me it's THAT important for batman to run back up in there only to find the joker escaping...which basically all that happened



SMH @ people TRYING to to downgrade the movie...

  

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537. "yes, it's THAT important, b/c Harvey Dent was NOT safe"
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>you mean to tell me it's THAT important for batman to run
>back up in there only to find the joker escaping...which
>basically all that happened
>
>
>
>SMH @ people TRYING to to downgrade the movie...

Batman putting a fucking mop handle through a door and saying, "Stay here" doesn't magically make the man invulnerable. The Joker, a wanted terrorist, with a room full of victims, and still on the hunt for Harvey Dent, would not likely just turn and walk out.

No one in the crowd is going to do anything? The Joker is just going to instantly give up the hunt for Dent because he got distracted by a touching love story? The cops, who are now aware that the Joker is on a killing spree, aren't going to arrive to protect Dent and impede the Joker's escape?

NOPE.

Batman just says, "Dent is safe."

AND SCENE!!

Horrible. B-grade. Absolutely amateur. That would be a groaner even in the Adam West Batman. I mean the movie has tons of positives, too, but how something this amateurish can just be completely overlooked 500 replies into this post is amazing to me.

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545. "well, at the TIME..."
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the joker THOUGHT batman that WAS dent....or did you forget that he said that in the interoggation? to paraphrase "the way you THREW yourself out the balconey to save her"

  

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540. "way too much trivial nit picking of this movie"
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524. "Joker has teleportation powers, you dummy."
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Along with his ability to turn schizophrenics
into MIT engineers who can wire remote control
bombs all over the city, he just teleported
to the other side of Gotham, like did throughout
the movie

Oh, and serious cosign

Movie is filled with all sorts of dumbass shit


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544. "dang. didn't even think about that. Well done."
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I'll say that Joker prolly didn't expect Bats to show up so quick, so yeah, dipset time.

But good catch.

Big movies often have little dumb shit like this, though. Goonies has my favorite one that the director has admitted to feeling silly for not catching.

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546. "disagree... it was trivial"
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mainly because joker thought batman was dent and there's nothing more to speak on from that scene....we knew dent was locked away safe, batman saved rachel, and intelligence will tell you that the joker left the scene...there's no reason to elaborate on that

it'll be DIFFERENT had the joker really ASSUMED otherwise that batman & dent's not the same person...but he admitted that he actually thought they were the same people because of how batman responded jumping off that balconey

so any other scene...sure it'll be cool for batman to rush back up to get the joker, and i bet they DID film extra footage in regards of that...but it's already a 2 1/2 HR. movie so things like that isn't that neccessary like he claims it is...we all assume automatically that the joker got away & dent's safe, there's no need to elaborate on things like that

  

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553. "I thought he tossed her out as a diversion so he could escape"
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I didn't think he was going to drop Rachel and then just go back to trying to find Harvey Dent.

Batman showed up, Joker needed to escape and used Dawes as a diversion. I just assumed he used the moment to hightail it out of there.

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555. "which would make sense if they had like a TWO SECOND EDIT"
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I mean, really, I know it's nitpicky, but ALL I'm really asking for here is a shot of the Joker leaving somehow. That's it. That's all.

I mean, all the other shit about how the situation might have REALISTICALLY played out, with him on the hunt for Harvey Dent and the police on super duper alert, that's not even that important.

We are just left simply SPECULATING how that scene actually resolved. All we're given is Batman, trashed on a streetcar below, saying, "Harvey is safe."

Just give me a TWO SECOND SHOT of elevator doors closing on the Joker. That's it. That's all.

I'm just saying, that's pretty damn weak if you have a huge hole like that. If it's going to be the GREATEST movie ever or whatever it's supposed to be, I really expect it not to entirely trip over its own feet like that.

It's good. It has its merits. But let's not get lost swimming in the hype.

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558. "this is a legit beef"
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something i didnt even notice at the time too, but you are right, shit was left unresolved, unrealistically

  

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569. "Joker thought Dent was Batman due to his reaction to Rachel's fall"
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thus he bounced.....that's what The Joker said in the interrogation.

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... second viewing.




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530. "For most of these negative responses..."
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I can confidently say disbelief was not suspeneded.

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543. "RE: Ze Official Dark Knight AWWW SHIT Post"
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Probably about 30 minutes too long.. But I dug it. All eyes were on Ledger whenever he was on the screen. Great sequel. I almost thought that they were going to use 2 face in the next movie. Also whats up with Cillian Murphy (scarecrow/dude from 28 days later) being in this movie for only 2 minutes?

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548. "RE: Ze Official Dark Knight AWWW SHIT Post"
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i personally think it was a waste to add the scarecrow if he's not going to be an integal part of this movie, but i can understand they wanted to close up a loose end from the 1st one.....

they could of easily have some unassuming mob character that the fake batmen attacked and kept it moving

  

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the sway
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550. "plenty of nitpicking in this thread, but most of the holes are legit"
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nevertheless, i really enjoyed it, and am seeing it again on imax this friday...philly folks, see it at the franklin institute, tickets are only $10.

as for the plot/writing, i do agree, especially after reading a lot of these responses, that some elements weren't properly explored/resolved, and the movie is far from a best picture contender. nevertheless, i left the theater VERY satisfied; i thought most of the action was very exciting, and most of the thematic material was explored well (the joker being a symbol of gotham's decaying morality, dent being a possible savior, and batman as the protector who knows that though he himself is not ideal for the job, what he's doing is necessary)

for the people nitpicking plot points for realism though, i mean, this shit is a super hero movie. don't be so uptight, no one is giving out a prize for most plot holes chosen, and no one is trying to give chris nolan a pulitzer. e.g., O_E talking about the joker's recruitment of psychopaths; that shit just didn't bother me. they followed the joker cause he was a charismatic and crazy fuck, and they just wanted to blow some shit up. how they learned their skills, who the fuck knows and who cares? if it bothers you that much, i can't imagine how you can watch any sort of fantastical movie, where at least a bit of disbelief has to be suspended

all in all, i liked it, enough for a second viewing as well.

  

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552. "Plenty of plea copping in this thread, but most of the pleas are invalid"
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What's not important to fanboys is important
to to critically thinking people

Just like most movies that you don't like

There's shit that you don't like, that others
might think is insignficant and they would
call you a nitpicker

mad subjective

  

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554. "did Nolan kidnap your sister?"
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564. "No, but he did make a mediocre Batman movie."
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n/m

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556. "i just dont see how your criticisms matter for a superhero movie"
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w/e tho, u didnt like it, and you'll likely show up to reply to anyone who did like it. and i also find it hysterical that you not only have SOOOO many replies in this thread, and you've seen the movie TWICE, and you are hating on it so much. its like you care more about the dark knight than most of the so-called fanboys you are hating on

  

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565. "My criticisms matter to non-Fanboys"
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Its that simple, really

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583. "no actually they don't"
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559. "saw it second time tonight, caught a lot more stuff"
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as far as people complaining that we didn't see Dent get kidnapped...we did, actually. It's real subtle, though. After the big action scene with the Batpod and the truck, Dent is rushed by media. Ramirez steps in and grabs Dent by the arm, tells the reporters to leave him alone. Dent thanks her. She rushes Dent to a car, and when he's in the back seat, slaps the car a couple of times, then the driver takes off. There's a lingering shot of her staring at the car as it drives off. Next time we see Dent he's tied up.

Also Mertz (the white-haired guy Dent shoots) and Ramirez were mentioned early on as being dirty, but Gordon ignored it. That's why he felt so guilty about Dent, because it was the exact two people that Dent told him were dirty that kidnapped Dent and Dawes. Also, Ramirez mentioned in her first scene that her mom was in the hospital.

So yeah, plot holes filled.

HOWEVER. HOW THE FUCK WAS SALVTORE MARONI WALKING IN THE HOSPITAL? Dude had his whole shit broke up by that fall.

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560. "mertz was driving dent's car too"
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i recognized him as having been one of the dirty ones when he took dent away

  

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566. "Did people complain about that?"
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I thought it was fairly obvious from the first viewing that something bad was about to happen when they ushered him in the car.

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572. "COSIGN"
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it was obvious, but people round here are too busy looking for things to complain about to pay attention.

>I thought it was fairly obvious from the first viewing that
>something bad was about to happen when they ushered him in the
>car.

  

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571. "a linger in this movie = .0000001 seconds"
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575. "I take back my combat gadgetry complaint"
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on second viewing, he actually did use more stuff than I remembered

the actual combat shots were still kinda shoddy tho...

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576. "did you see his hydraulic super-strength gadget?"
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When he bends the barrel of that fake Batman's shotgun, it's actually a gadget assist. He's got this little apparatus on his arm.

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588. "yea..you hear that air pressure exhaust when he did it too...."
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i thought i was the only one that caught that...

plus, i LOVE the way they intertwined the excuse of needing a better batsuit

  

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587. "i thought sal maroni was walkin' with a LIMP"
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who knows how long it was between batman dropping him 3 stories down to him getting released for the hospital in recovery, but i KNOW ever since that time, he walked with a limp

  

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562. "Yeah I don't think I can watch Tim Burton's Batman ever again...."
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Heath was so good I can't even watch Nicholson's Joker. It would seem way too cartoonish and his origin was so cheesy (falling into chemicals????). All the actors were perfect in there roles. Even Julia Roberts brother lol. That was cool how they brought Scarecrow back in the beginning.

Reasons why I think they should make one more Batman movie:

- They built up the whole story about Batman truly being hated and a vigilante, so another villain has to come along so Gotham needs him again. Question is which villain...Scarecrow, Riddler, BANE???? (that would be awesome actually), Penguin, Poison Ivy, Harley Race, CATWOMAN??? There are actually some cool villains they could work with so even though it won't make up for not having Heath I think they'll be ok.

- Harvey isn't dead. Didn't you see that the coin landed on heads when he fell.

- Gordon needs a whole movie as commissioner.

- We need at least some semblance of Robin. I know I may get hate for it but there should be a Robin....maybe some sort of protege, he wouldn't have to be the sidekick I guess.

I got frustrated with Imax being sold out ever night so I went to a regular theatre which was great still. The Watchmen preview was pretty dope too.

  

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574. "foreshadowing:"
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>>Harvey isn't dead. Didn't you see that the coin landed on heads when he fell.


I didn't realize this until 2nd viewing.

  

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581. "he tossed that coin for the kid tho..."
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563. "Did we really go 500 posts without a single..."
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Billy Dee Williams >> Aaron Eckhardt?

Or did I miss it?

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567. "It was a lil long but that movie was the SHIT. I like Micheal Keaton"
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better as Batman but I like Bale better as Bruce Wayne.

DAMN!

  

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568. "Saw it in IMAX last night....unfucking believable"
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The crowd let out an audible gasp when the movie opened up with that IMAX panning shot above the buildings. My two friends and I were in the 2nd row and we felt like we were in the fucking movie....all of our jaws simultaneously dropped. It was absolutely breathtaking to see it in the IMAX...it makes the movie that much more unforgettable.

Now in terms of the movie itself, I found it to be even better actually on the 2nd viewing. On the first viewing, I was so in awe and in amazement over not only the fact that TDK was FINALLY HERE, but over the The Joker and all the tension, I really couldn't process everything that was thrown at me.

This time, the one main thing that really stuck out to me was just how non-stop of a force The Joker was after he was unleashed....you are talking about having Gotham, Batman, Gordon etc on edge for who knows how long straight, can you imagine the kind of toll that takes? It's another testament to how great the Joker was, this cat kept everyone in a state of terror with his impeccable planning and genius. The middle hour and half of the movie is absolutely ridiculous, the tension is almost too much....and my friend next to me, had his hands over his mouth for nearly the entire movie...duke looked like he had just participated in fucking hell week after we walked out lol.

However, I do agree with the cats who said that the final act def dragged relative to the rest with the inclusion of Two-Face.....considering what we had just scene for the last 90 mins, it def took the tension and pace down a level.

This is a fucking MUST-SEE in the IMAX....it's absolutely breath-taking.

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573. "i know what you mean man"
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the audience i saw it with did the same thing with the opening scene. it was a mix of gasps, "oh shit," and "dooooooopppeeee!!"

i'm going again to the imax this weekend i think.

  

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577. "RE: i know what you mean man"
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>the audience i saw it with did the same thing with the
>opening scene. it was a mix of gasps, "oh shit," and
>"dooooooopppeeee!!"
>
>i'm going again to the imax this weekend i think.

I hope you already got tix. I went & bought some for a showing next Wednesday last nite. They're sold out through the wknd...again.

  

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578. "i changed my mind"
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gonna try and hit it up during the week or next weekend. i have tests to study for this weekend. i hate going back to school sometimes.

>>the audience i saw it with did the same thing with the
>>opening scene. it was a mix of gasps, "oh shit," and
>>"dooooooopppeeee!!"
>>
>>i'm going again to the imax this weekend i think.
>
>I hope you already got tix. I went & bought some for a showing
>next Wednesday last nite. They're sold out through the
>wknd...again.
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570. "you know, i wouldn't mind nightwing showing up in the third."
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or even dick grayson. they could build on the fake batman shit with nightwing showing up. he would be much better then robin and could serve a purpose with batman being hated after the events of TDK.

i don't think we need robin to bring nightwing into the picture.
this could facilitate bane and the broken back story line without the need for azrael.

but..... that won't happen. maybe its not even a good idea. BUT... i would like an appearance, even if its just dick grayson. a cameo at least. but no robin under any circumstances.

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579. "i don't understand folks beef w/the fall of dent..."
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1) dude is the d.a in an ultra violent city that is run by organized crime. one of few public officials trying to do anything about it, and is surrounded by corrupt police officers, politicians, etc who hate him for being honest.

2) constantly tries to do the right thing, and is nearly killed on multiple occasions by mafiosos, cops and the clinically insane.

3) tries to save the life of his girlfriend, while he steadily loses allies in his war against organized crime. cops, a judge, and a police commissioner are all murdered.

4) dent, along with his girlfriend are abducted by corrupt police officers. girlfriend dies in a bombing not long after agreeing to marry him.

5) half of dent's body is severely burned/melted away and is in considerable pain.

personally, i feel any one of these has potential to make someone lose their grip on sanity, along with any faith in being a law abiding citizen.

the fall of dent isn't sexy or uniquely tragic, but it is extremely plausible considering all that happened to him. lets not forget, that despite his best intentions, dude was just a man. he could not possibly have lived up to the hopes and expectations of an entire city.
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580. "finally seen it yesterday in the uk"
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really, really enjoyed it. was a bit long and it didn't help that the last third was the weakest, mainly due to the Two Face parts of the film being the worst. still great and looking forward to my second showing which i need to make a little more sense of it all. everything was very fast and chaotic i thought, things left unexplained and story not force fed which i really liked.

also, harvey is looking at joker as the nurse normally, then is really shocked when the joker takes the mask around his mouth off. is he really that used to nurses wearing that kind of makeup around the eyes? annoyed me a little.

some favourite moments:
the pencil trick.
"you're crazy", to which joker replies "i'm not.... i'm not".
joker asking people where harvey was.
the whole section where the joker is locked up, talking to the cop about the friends of his that he killed and asking for his call.

basically, most of the time ledger was on the screen.

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582. "wasnt THAT good *"
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i hate batmans voice. wtf. so silly - is that voice meant to make him seem tortured? lol.
why cant they make blockbuster films with nice flowing narratives? does everything have to be so fucking choppy? seemed like various speeches on the nature of man were just being shoehorned in here. seems like they were trying to do too much. the whole film is too overstuffed, theres no time to contemplate or think about anything. and like someone else said, not nearly enough wayne/batman time.

*spoilers*

something about this and the last one dont really feel very superhero comic book-y. they feel more like regular action movies starring batman (even down to the q/007 style thing between bale and freeman). lol@him going all the way to HK to kidnap that guy. this is batman. not fucking bourne supremacy.
too many things were too quickly resolved without much development at all, which was dissapointing - gordon not being killed was too subtley revealed, and not even 'oh shit', more like 'ohh'. like someone else mentioned, the fundraiser scene just petered out when it should have been explosive.
if theyre trying to do 'dark' batman, id like them to just go the whole hog. the joker was chilling in this (ledger was pretty amazing and easily the best thing in it), but id have liked them to go all the way with it.

i think the burton films are quite underrated. at least compared to the last two they are.

this film confirmed that i dont really like prequels. better to assume everything thats happened rather than trying to build up to it and explain how everything got started.

  

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584. "um batman travelled to go after villains in the comics too"
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585. "this is why i like it"
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>something about this and the last one dont really feel very
>superhero comic book-y. they feel more like regular action
>movies starring batman (even down to the q/007 style thing
>between bale and freeman).

this right here is exactly why i like the last two batmans so much.

  

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589. "but nolans visual treatment is pretty boring"
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burton might have created a very stylised, artificial looking gotham but i liked the fact it still felt comic book-ish, not just any old action movie. the look of this and the last one isnt really very batman-ish. i suppose everyone has their own idea for how theyd like to see batman/gotham, but why would anyone want it to look standard or just like any other movie?

i dunno if this is the truest to the real spirit of the character (i think) like some people seem to think or not, but i think it takes itself much too seriously. far too earnest. maybe nolan trying to stay so 'true' to the character (as he and other comic book nerds see it anyway) is a reason for that, but i dont know if its made for better films.

i agree with a lot of this review, which is one of the few ive read so far that dont get all caught up in the hype/general consensus about its unquestionable greatness -
http://gentrystyle.com/2008/07/26/this-week-gentry-style-2/

The Film: The Dark Knight

With the slick and pleasantly dour Batman Begins, Christopher Nolan set the benchmark for the ‘serious’ comic book adaptation. It’s fair to say that this next instalment of the franchise is a little too earnest in parts, loading the cart that carries the rather shallow complexities of the narrative with a little more weight than necessary. That said, Nolan has forged a believably troubled Gotham and a Bruce Wayne / Batman with sincere emotion and motivation. Far too long and over complicated by the Harvey Dent / Two-Face subplot (a lacklustre teaser for the next movie, really), there are large swathes of the film that get bogged down in the well-trodden them-or-me superhero dilemma. However, Heath Ledger’s hideously goofy turn as The Joker ultimately makes this film a must-see. He is so wonderfully disturbed, so perfectly skewed and comically diffident. Ledger has remained the character to great effect and if this is remembered as his defining performance, then it’s one worthy of repeated viewing. Neither the prancing Caesar Romero and the prankster gangster Jack Nicholson ever really captured the demented torment of the character. Nolan’s film tells us less than Burton’s but shows us much more about the particular kind of lunatic he really is:

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id have liked the film to zero in more on the joker and batman cos all those subplots were all over the place imo. it was trying so hard to be weighty and serious, it ended up being complicated rather than complex. or both maybe.

  

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592. "nolans visual treatment is pretty boring???"
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you mean to tell me you didn't like the introducion visuals, the visual of batman swooning across hong kong, the visual of the joker in the interrogation room with nothing but darkness behind him, or the visual of the truck flipping over, or the visual of the joker sticking his head out the window of the cop car, or the visual of dent once he saw the scarred coin while on the hospital bed, or the visual of the joker walking out of the hospital while it was exploding, or the visual of the joker swinging upside down and the camera slowly rotating right side up, or the FINAL visual of batman speeding off in his batpod at the end of the movie...

those visuals STAY stuck in my head...let alone trying to watch it on IMAX...

but hey, that's on you

  

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597. "I do"
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He's too obsessed with keeping this thing grounded in our reality. I have the same complaint about the X-Men movies and Superman Returns.

I think Spider-Man sets the gold standard. Everything about New York is just a little bit brighter and bolder so Spider-Man fits in just right.


Not to mention the camera moves are much more well thought out and clever.

Anyone with a fancy camera set up could replicate Nolan's Gotham in Chicago.

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598. "yes, but the brightness of spider-man's new york should not..."
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be in batman. it needs to be dark. tim burton has already done the dark and fantasy-like gotham. he did a good job, imo. but its been done. as for joel schumacher's approach....meh.

nolan made a good choice. just as raimi did for spider-man. as for superman, it looked a lot less grounded in reality than the films starring christopher reeve. i also found it far more depressing than a superman movie should ever be.

i also dug the way they chose to portray the world of x-men. let the greater focus be on the characters and their abilities. though the marvel and dc universe aren't real life. i don' think it would be beneficial to make the worlds look too outrageous. batman, more than any other comic book character, does not need to remind folks of what came before (burton's films excluded).
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586. "TDK is on track to make break $300 in 10 days"
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593. "i hope it makes more than $300 dollars in 10 days. lol. n/m"
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596. "it just broke $314 million."
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590. "one thing i still don't get....."
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ive seen it briefly mentioned in a few of these posts.


what was the point of having the scarecrow in that one scene? was it just an easy cop out from the last movie? or is it just showing that he is still around for the possibility of a bad guy in the third movie?

it just seemed really awkward to see him for like 30 seconds and never see him again

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591. "i thought the purpose was to show that batman's rogues never go away..."
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they are always plotting, and batman has to put them in arkham or prison again and again.
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595. "that AND he was still on the loose."
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594. "2nd week--76 million more. new record for 2nd week"
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even though these records mean nothing. higher ticket prices=records being broke every summer.

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600. "Bats need a cough drop, yo!"
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That voice.

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602. "last ten minutes were slight let down"
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all the speeches about heros and pointing guns at children

but otherwise it was fantastic

the look on the joker's face after he asked 'how many of my friends have you killed?' and the guy replied 'six'

lol

there was a real sense of darkness when it kept seeming that everything played into the joker's hands

i'd like if there was less C.S.I. nonsense though
'we found 3 strains of DNA on the joker card in the judge's dossier'
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603. "haha that was one of my favorite Joker moments"
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>the look on the joker's face after he asked 'how many of my
>friends have you killed?' and the guy replied 'six'

LOL that was such a thorough performance

  

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604. "Why did they give Joker half the cash?"
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Why was the pile of money his to burn without Batman killed?

  

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607. "he didn't want Batman to be killed (anymore?)"
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608. "RE: he didn't want Batman to be killed (anymore?)"
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He didn't want Batman dead no but the gangsters only agreed to give him half the cash if he did the deed. Why would they give the cash over and sit back as he burns it? Cash is all those guys had and they knew Batman was still alive.

  

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605. "Dark Knight shooting script/art now on sale"
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http://store.scriptbuddy.com/products/Dark-Knight/78645/

I'm sure people will like that.

Critically acclaimed director Christopher Nolan follows up his blockbuster film Batman Begins with the highly anticipated The Dark Knight. Batman Begins was a successful re-boot of the popular Batman franchise, and The Dark Knight sequel takes the fresh perspective further, developing the highly anticipated, raw cat-and-mouse game between our superhero Batman and his twisted arch-nemesis The Joker. Celebrated stars include Christian Bale, Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, and Gary Oldman, returning as Batman, Alfred, Lucius Fox, and Lieutenant Gordon, respectively; and new additions Heath Ledger as The Joker, as well as Maggie Gyllenhaal, and Aaron Eckhart.

The Dark Knight book—featuring production art and the full shooting script—is the ultimate companion to the movie, showcasing production ephemera including storyboard art, character sketches, Christopher and Jonathan Nolan's original shooting script based on the story by Christopher Nolan and David S. Goyer, still photos, and even personal images of behind-the-scenes material created by Nolan and production designer Nathan Crowley during the movie. Following the creation of The Dark Knight, this book is certain to appeal to diehard and new fans alike.

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606. "q for batman comic book fans -"
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do you guys just like the last two cos theyre more faithful to the original comics? (or at least the version youd like batman to be) cos i still dont necessarily think that makes the film better. if that was the case - that staying faithful to the original source material always = a better film - then wed all be saying the davinche code was the best film ever lol.

  

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609. "393.8 M in 3 weeks"
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damn!

  

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615. "technically 18 days- LESS THAN 3 WKS"
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cot-DAMN

  

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611. "It was NOICE in IMAX. It still holds up."
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My only complaint about the IMAX presentation was that I felt there were a few too many establishing exteriors done in IMAX that would suddenly cut to interior-set scenes

Heath's performance was still great, my girl Beatrice is still hot, the 2:32 FLEW by, and the movie still holds up overall

NOPE, it does

Also, sorry, but I wouldn't cut a second of the movie. Not one more frame. Hell, I was upset that a couple of the scenes ended with abrupt cuts. That's on the editor, DrNO, not Nolan. NOPE, it is.

Anyway, Nolan is doing it to y'all haters (once again), and y'all am on that mad.
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612. "I hope this reaches Titanic's gross....."
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I really want to see The Dark Knight as the biggest box-office blockbuster of all-time....not only because I love Batman but it'll probably make those Star Wars fanboys mad.

Not to mention that Titanic was good but a bit overrated.
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613. "don't you think The Dark Knight..."
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Is slightly overrated too.





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619. "Aside from that glaring plothole......"
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no. TDK delivered on everything that it was hyped up to be IMO.

Titanic just wasn't a grand slam out the park for me like it was for some people. I actually feel that it was Titanic, not TDK, that was too long for its own good. I don't know what Cameron could've cut but that movie did feel a bit too long and it was over-polished IMO.
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620. "i agree with titanic"
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in fact, i still haven't watched the 1st half of that movie...i always start with once that ship hit the iceberg which is an hour and a half by itself...

i seen it on TNT this past weekend, and realized how overrated the acting was in that movie..i was a bit disappointed, but i can understand the reasons why it blown up the way it did...i'll never knock it for HOW it reached that record, especially respect it considering how slow it started off when it debuted

  

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614. "We'll know for sure in a couple weeks, but I don't think it beats Titani..."
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600 mil is a LOT. And remember how long Titanic was in theaters making money? It built that shit up over a loooooooong period of time. I feel like, like the majority of big summer releases nowadays, once it begins to fall off, it will continually make less and less.

It'll pass Star Wars, easily. But I'm not convinced yet that it'll pass Titanic. It'd have to have an abnormally low decline in ticket sales next week for me to think it stands a chance.

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616. "considering it's at 400 mill and we're not a month IN yet"
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and the average summer blockbuster stays in theaters for 3 months..and the other previously highest year earners pushed that extra 200 million within a 2 month span (ironman & indie 4) after jumpstarting the 1st week passing 100 million...it IS possible

i personally don't THINK it can, but if it stays in the theaters past oct. then i can see it happening

  

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617. "it has a great chance"
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400 in less than a month is incredible. word of mouth is still strong and where i'm at there are plenty of people that haven't seen it, but keep hearing good things so i figure they will catch it eventually just to see what everyone is talking about. if any movie has had a chance to catch titanic its this one.

  

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618. "The IMAX here is still selling out advance shows thru Saturday"
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Nolan makin em mad & makin mad 'bers I'm lovin it. YUP!

  

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621. "TDK will be #1 again next week...."
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Tropic Thunder had too much publicity and it wasn't really affected that much by Pineapple Express, Clone Wars and Mirrors.

Anyone else noticing how fanboys are going back more and more just so TDK can beat Titanic. It still might not happen but I know I plan to see TDK one more time.
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622. "it's possible....not a strong weekend next week"
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the fact that it beat clone wars and arguably probably took away some of the moviegoers from tropic thunder (even though it still topped the box office) shows that this movie a full month in still has legs...

it's officially #2, but it's not going to reach that 600 mark....i'd say it's going to hit the 500 mark come labor day & stop at 530 million....

it's been one helluva run, though

  

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