...im not trying to take anything away from thier own perspective blessings.

but look... meshell is the 'classical' personification of the black musician. she writes arranges, composes, produces and performs her own music, without any of the star fuckin'... all over her albums.

although she gets praise on these boards ...its nowhere near the kind of adulation all of the other okayatists get from newbies and charters alike.

again, im not trying to take anything away from the roots, my brother common or anyone else.

but dammit....

if i see one more game theory post...

if i see one more common post....

if i see one more eb post....

im'a throw a serious tantrum.

i remember when okp member 'M' used to post a good deal of material on meshell. he enlighted me into more of her talents and influences. and quite frankly...'M's website on meshell has FAAAAAR more information about this phenomenal woman, than okayplayer's linkage does.

www.freemyheart.com

meshell has a new album out... and her okp page is still stuck on comfort woman - circa 2004 updates.

...and i've seen little, next to no coverage or spotlight acknowedgement on 'Dance of the Infidel' ....an album that is being shamefully ignored in the industry and garnered as somekind of underground 'world music' disk.

yet instead, okp's who traverse through this site are fed heapings of the same old boring ass shit of compliation disks from mediocre artists and instrumental releases of albums that dropped more than three years ago.

now my rant isn't really about how okp.com runs thangs on thier site. im not a mod nor have i ever written a check for thier efforts to keep this fantastic site alive and breathing every year.

but if we are going to be open to music that will touch us and revere us into who were are as human beings ....meshell should be beholden as one of the greatests artists to live, in our lifetime.

this rant is only my opinion.... and mine alone.

but i think that if meshell got a third of the kind of recognition 'ye, common and other great artists, this site and its members covet ....meshell would be seen by the world as a force in modern day music beyond anyone's imagination.

support your girl y'all.

bump

>meshell has a new album out... and her okp page is still stuck
>on comfort woman - circa 2004 updates.

this is scandalous, but i dont know if okp.com is to blame.
but this goes for all okpartist sites--little to no updates unless
theres an "important" album dropping ■

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<----Queen of Late Passes
www.detgirlnyworld.com

ME'SHELL >>>>>>>> (__fill_in_the_blank__)

>this rant is only my opinion.... and mine alone.
>

no, not yours alone....i share it too...

and i too have been bummed that she continues to be overlooked by the masses, and even worse by fellow OKplayers. I know i know...everyone can't dig everyone...but it really blows me away that more folks aren't blown away by her consistent, creative and straight up classic breadth of work...

I haven't been web surfing quite as much as i used to...and since its footbal season when i hit okp i've been jumping to the Sports section first...but when i do make my way to the OKP Artist board i'm always looking for a Meshell post...but i'm usually dissapointed...even though I posted a few Meshell threads sometime back unfortunately them bad boys dropped off pretty darn fast...

that said, i've been on the verge of a rant such as this for a while...so thank you for sparking me into action...

for now I'm gonna ^up^ this thread...but i say we try to keep it alive with reviews of her songs throughout her career, reviews of her live performances, interview clips and any meshell related personal stories you might have...yeah i know it may end up being only just a few of us sharing info & opinions between ourselves...preaching to the choir so to speak...but so what. If only one more person ends up enjoying her stuff for the first time because they happened across this thread then it'll be worth it...

its all about the music

...to be continued...

i went to meshells gig at paradiso, amsterdam early this year. she was on tour promoting the "dance of the infidel" album. dope album btw. and i remember being blown away by all musicians onstage. (including the dj w/ dope additional scratches, samples and what not.) the audience -including myself- had never heard most of the music performed that night. but that didn't stop me from enjoying every minute of the show. i had a smile on my face throughout the entire performance. there was little sign of recognition amongst the crowd.. till the encore. imo the shows climax. the encore seemed spontaneous for a change. and in stead of playing one of her own "hits" the band started playing radioheads "the national anthem" out of the blue. meshell doing that opening basspart made folks lose their minds! i know i did ■

I heard rumors that that Amsterdam show was one of the best on the tour...i heard the band was in a zone that night...supoosedly there is a recording of it out there somewhere but i havent been lucky enough to track it down yet...at the moment it's #1 on my list of musical treasures to dig up...

oh my.

BOOOM!

http://www.kcrw.com/find/find_results.php3?search_keywords=meshell&submit=Search&any_desc=meshell&words=meshell&past_shows=all&radiodate=button_fixed&sort_order=AirDate&order_type=ReverseOrder&show_code=&AllOrAny=all&end_date=&exclude=%2Fpl%2F&restrict=&search_archives=on&search_static=on&search_playlists=off&start_date=

a link to several audio/video links of the various performances she did on "morning becomes eclectic".. ■

I've been searching for a downloadable version

oh, you mean this one...?

hxxp://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02YQ3FOCEAOFY3NWK31DW27H0Y

yeah, i love that one too...

you'll need to 'unstuff' it first, its compressed to reduce size....

tt to be continued....

nah just audio, sorry...

thank you very much for this, been looking for some good quality recordings from the comfort woman album

made me pull out comfort woman this morning.

great inspiration.

now go runtelldat, ho.

sound quality isn't perfect but the performance is 13 minutes of 100% electricity IMO...

s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2PZMI7K3WXDH63PMT4BDJG9AUC

let me know what you think...

the sound quality isn't perfect but the performance is 13minutes of 100% electricity IMO...

http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2PZMI7K3WXDH63PMT4BDJG9AUC

let me know what you think


(whoops sorry bout the double post...thought the first one didn't go through but i guess it did)


to be continued

you got any more from that show? ■

hxxp://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1FSJGOJWTI0F50K3ZISZ8DOTIP

thanks!

what show are these from?

www.myspace.com/mrodyssey

one of the Jazzfests in Europe...

hxxp://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0AP0F4P4YDWNX3QP441AZ6CDNV

BUMP!

what file extension is .sit??

its compression software named "Stuffit" (like a zipped file)...(there are three songs on within the file file so i compresssed it so they could be uploaded/downloaded once.)

If you have 'Stuffit' software (i think its free and downloadable out there) youd just need to unstuff that 'sit' file by doubleclicking on it..then you should see a folder with all three tunes inside...

..fear not though, if you cant find Stuffit out there i'm planning to upload each song individually unstuffed later on tonight...along with some other live goodies too...

but that wont be until later so if you cant wait till then you may wanna see if you can find the free Stuffit software


to be continued....

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My fav song is hers from the Love & Basketball Album....lawd she killed it

>My fav song is hers from the Love & Basketball Album....lawd
>she killed it

live version of that one (lots of audience noise though)...


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can we get a Me'shell month in OkayArtist??

by the way, my screenname's lame
http://www.last.fm/user/KennyFresh/

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i could bever understand why dean big brother almightee
aka ?uestlove doesn't drool all over her
like he has over some other so-called chosen ones
every project she's done has been great
if there ever was an heir 2 prince's throne
it's me'shell

Eclectic Soul/Sunday, 2-4 PM est/89.3 WCSB.ORG

that you've pointed out in this post.

I go to every concert, have every cd that this woman has put out and yet the place that is supposed to claim her as an artist has no info on her.

Yes, I go to freemyheart.com on the regular to get my fix and find out more information about the talent that is Meshell.

BTW, her latest cd is THAT shit!!! The Spirit Music concert was lovely also.

She has something cookin' later in the year or the beginning of the year, so maybe by then something new will pop up on the boards about her.

oh, and when she was in concert here in the Midwest, I posted the dates and that post fell to the last page within minutes...

where's the love yall?!?

now go runtelldat, ho.

...hands down. Truly an original and she's suffered and prospered because of it.

I love OKP.com to death, but let's face it. When it comes to music this is primarily a hip-hop/contemporary R&B site, with the obvious exceptions for the "greats" (Marvin, Prince, MJ, etc.), sacred cows, and a passing of a legend. Outside of those parameters, you are not going to get much intelligent discussion or even views to a post if it's about the importance of Me'Shell, John Coltrane...anything outside of the accepted realm.

Also consider that the labels could be paying OKP.com for promoting the artist/new album, so if there's nothing to promote the site doesn't get updated (shit, Voodoo and Reflection Eternal are STILL on the site). Or, if the artist themselves are paying OKP.com and it didn't pan out, I can't see them putting more money into a site that either generated hate posts or didn't reap any benefits in sales, exposure, etc.

Me'Shell is an enigma because even though she signed with a high profile artist's label on a major, with each album she's gone increasingly away from self promotion and the spotlight. And the music has done the same. A lot of that has to be label politics, and the dropping of the ball by WB/Maverick with Cookie had to be the death knell. Every single album she's dropped has gotten rave reviews and critical acclaim, but after 12 years in the game she's still way under the radar.

She's written some amazing songs (Aquarium is THE HYPNOTIC!!!!), is an incredible producer/arranger/performer, and is thought provoking and unapologetic as a person and a artist. We need to champion everything she does.

http://www.facebook.com/marquealjordan
http://twitter.com/MarquealJordan
www.marquealjordan.com

This is looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong overdue. Dance of the Infidel was the best new albulm i touched this year, hands down. i dont know why nigg's be sleepin on her. i thought it was because im in nashville,tn. but sadly i see it like that everywhere. but you know how people like changing the subject when topics are serious....and thats most of her music. people dont listen because it requires to think and feel. i dare 1 person to smoke a spliff and listen to BITTER all the way through and not shed a tear. people run from that.

Memorizing now-
MF DOOM- Special Herbs 1 - 9
Miles Davis- Sorcerer
J Dilla- Ruff Draft
Yesterday's Universe- Prepare 4 New Yesterday
Onra - CHINOISERIES
Without a parable YAHushua spake not. Matthew 13:34

I love that damn cd. The first copy I had I played to much to the point where it wouldn't play. I took it everywhere.

All of her cd's continue to stay in rotation.

And no one else can make a song to get you in the mood better than her.

Who else can sing these words sound like sweet nothings in your ear...

"Put your tongue in my mouth, make me wet...lay me down, spread my legs...i wanna feel you, inside me"

now go runtelldat, ho.

Me'Shell is the truth!

I don't even know where to begin on this one.

Every album is classic IMO. From funk, to smoothed out soul, to jazz, to folk, she has it on LOCK.

BTW, if anyone has her most recent MOntreaux Jazz performance (video) in some kind of burnable format, I'd LOVE to get it! I can only find the stream.

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who are you









really

on www.freemyheart.com, you stand a better chance of getting it there.

now go runtelldat, ho.

http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=37G78SZJPG3D62LCLHPAGF39RE

ripped/edited the audio
radio sessions post-comfort woman release...meshell is sick, underrated as fuk, and I 'm talking bout beyond the OKP boards.

*throw it up and i'll rip it, good quality streams only though

she does so much with so little. she'll take one chord and transform it into a beautiful magnanimous epic of a piece. a truly wonderful producer.

- - - - -

"ask beavis, i get nothing but head" - big l

peace & love

bump

I'm hoping to put more clips from some live gigs later this week, but i'm running late so this one will have to do for now...

its from the free DLs they put up when Comfort Woman was released...

hxxp://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2VW0EF78DNF8U24VDW3CSL038D


to be continued...

Voodoo, can you hit me up, curious to what soundboard meshell recordings you might have
Thanks

Meshell is The Truth, and all I see on OKP is some shit about Skillz or Jean Grae... I don't get that at all!

- i have nothing against skillz because 'fam is a vet in the game.

- i don't have anything against jean either. but that's because i really don't know much about her music.

yet, regardless.... even if both artists were to be merged together, not even a fraction of thier talents can match me'shell's. i'll be as bold to say that me'shell is karen carpenter, horace silver, prince and led zeppelin all rolled into one.

imo... me'shell is our bach and john coltrane.

and im really annoyed that okayplayer has a 'blind' support system for her genius.

it's like, okayplayer has a picasso painting in thier possesion but they don't know where to hang it up at.

>i'll be as bold to say that me'shell is karen
>carpenter, horace silver, prince and led zeppelin all rolled
>into one.
>
>imo... me'shell is our bach and john coltrane.
>
>and im really annoyed that okayplayer has a 'blind' support
>system for her genius.
>
>it's like, okayplayer has a picasso painting in thier
>possesion but they don't know where to hang it up at.

i wouldnt put it like that, but she *is* very, very good ■

.

I was wondering when you would make it to this post! lol

now go runtelldat, ho.

I couldn't stay out of this post. Meshell is the first artist since Prince to get me excited about MUSIC.... I ride HARD for Meshell.

Actually the way I look at it, only 7, maybe 8 of those OKArtist deserve to be up there. But then again that is only my opinion.

and he said that he hadn't listened to her music, because she is bi.

I don't see how you can totally disregard great music because of the private life of an artist. that comment slapped me in the face - can't fathom dating someone with such a closed mind.

I mean, I can listen to anything that she makes. Hell just hearing her speak is melodic...I can't even fathom not listening to her music, I'm spellbound.

I mean, I love all the okartists, I do believe that meshell gets no play or love from the people on the boards. if i could design pages, i would have done one for the okboards to update.

now go runtelldat, ho.

not great sound quality though...

hxxp://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3C3W5E82PBKMZ25AYVEPYPGNPE

includes Wah Wah Watson, Joshua Redman, Dave Fiuczynski amoung others...

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to understand why i'm trying not to let this post die.

now go runtelldat, ho.

track 1...

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track 2....

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track 3...

hxxp://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3Q1KVQJWMY21W0BATEFEKSKVLY

"Satisfy" live 2002(?)...

hxxp://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2IVR3JECQXTBH0I438FOCDV78I

Meshell on Bass as well as some other instruments, she also serves as Producer...

hxxp://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2CD249N6NMS6V271VLDITMIRZB

(background...Meshell Produced and cowrote an ENTIRE Chaka Khan album back in the mid 90s that, sad to say, was never released in full...parts surfaced on Chakas Greatest hits (remember the groovy "Never Miss the Water"? I love that tune)...apparently "Pain" was a track from those sessions as well. BTW the tune Pain was actually written by some purple lovin', boot wearin, tossed salad hairdo havin royal dude...although i don't think he had any input into this actual recording though...

hxxp://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=334VEIZ2H2YZ939XV652GT4PR8

thank you, thank you ■

Today is a pic of Jean Grae, and yesterday Skillz..... Okayplayer might need to change the name to anyol'player....

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niiiiice.

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really

I can't really put into words how I feel about her... she is a major inspiration for me as a bassist alone. When you put all her other talents on top of that, fuggedaboutit.

Peace Breed,

Thanks to this post I just went and bought DoI and I am in some sorta of euphoria just jammin out to it. I hadn't realized that the cd was released...she's always been bad-but this jazz piece is just on another level! the comparison to bitches brew is def' warranted.


Blk poets die from not being read.

-Don L. Lee

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with a bit of a joyful raging scream...

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I hear she did a studio version of the song for Cookie, but it didn't make the cut. THAT I would love to hear!

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really

nice early version of "Fellowship". This session took place long before Comfort Woman...in fact i think this session took place in support of Cookie the album before Comfort Woman.....at any rate, enjoy...

hxxp://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=180YCT2QMHNPA1I84VKXDCH864

...to be continued....

thank you, thank you ■

The first track sets the tone for this gig at the Tokyo Blue Note...Meshell & crew took their time and evoked a 'spacey smokey funky groove' atmosphere...they slow the tempo down on many of the tunes they played that evening...and as she and her bands are known to do, they changed up arrangements on several tracks, so much so that initially you may not even recognize a few of em until the lyrics kick in...thats part of what makes her shows so good to me, the unexpected, the interesting change-ups, even the farmiliar is new...

the first 5 tracks of that are compressed in one file at the link below...

hxxp://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1JTXR7RYHIBOQ2SOQB2EBY0LI8

I'll try to put up the individual tracks later for those not able to expand the compressed file...

to be continued...

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