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ThaTruth
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"Call me crazy, but if you've been working in fast food for 20 years..."


          

and you're not in management you're doing something wrong...

https://www.facebook.com/WhiteHouse/videos/10153828348879238/?pnref=story

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this is the type of post that should get ppl banned.
Oct 16th 2015
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i am in favor of stiffling "debate."
Oct 16th 2015
3
^^^^
Oct 16th 2015
7
you know?
Oct 16th 2015
9
Meh, congrats to the man for being employed for 2 decades
Oct 16th 2015
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excellent response.
Oct 16th 2015
4
honesty and integrity is a muhfugga...said his fam skipped meals
Oct 16th 2015
5
I once had a job that paid minimum wage. You know what I did? I got a...
Oct 16th 2015
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yay for you.
Oct 16th 2015
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That's what most people do. "Move on up" like George and Weezy.
Oct 16th 2015
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'most ppl'
Oct 16th 2015
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where did you get all of that?
Oct 18th 2015
220
      thats the bullshit his dumbass injects into the conversation
Oct 18th 2015
223
The numbers would say otherwise of this guy wouldn't be at the White Hou...
Oct 16th 2015
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reading the comments in that link you see the exact same thing
Oct 16th 2015
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      we need to drown out these voices however we can.
Oct 16th 2015
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      what?
Oct 16th 2015
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           Do you actually go to McDonald's or Wal-Mart? Do you actually know...
Oct 16th 2015
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           I know a woman who's worked in the customer service at Wal-mart for
Oct 16th 2015
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           Next...
Oct 16th 2015
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                $8 isn't minimum wage.
Oct 16th 2015
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                     So how much does the lady you're referring to make?
Oct 16th 2015
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           no. never.
Oct 16th 2015
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           then raise minimum wage to $10-$11/hr and be done with it
Oct 16th 2015
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                $15/hr is the goal.
Oct 16th 2015
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another reply that should result in an immediate ban.
Oct 16th 2015
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please, qualify your statement
Oct 16th 2015
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      b/c some of us don't wanna read y'all's bullshit.
Oct 16th 2015
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      ah, so it's another case of "Your rights end where my feelings begin"
Oct 16th 2015
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      nope.
Oct 16th 2015
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      no.,
Oct 16th 2015
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           ha!
Oct 16th 2015
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      this is funny coming from you...
Oct 16th 2015
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           i'm glad you think so.
Oct 16th 2015
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           I applaud this ETHER
Oct 18th 2015
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      your reply should be banned as well.
Oct 16th 2015
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I don't care what you personally did. In a society of millions
Oct 16th 2015
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      posts #43 & #48. n/m
Oct 16th 2015
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      when millions of anecdotes are the same or similar can you really
Oct 16th 2015
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           annecdotes are worthless.
Oct 16th 2015
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           There are not as many made it from the bottom stories as there are
Oct 16th 2015
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                It ain't even about "making it" in the sense that you're balling now
Oct 16th 2015
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exactly, people dont get that they themselves subsidize this farce
Oct 17th 2015
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old school says a job is a job is a job
Oct 16th 2015
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This is more to blame on Mcdonalds hiring policies than him
Oct 16th 2015
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this isn't 100% true.
Oct 16th 2015
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I blame MD's for not upwardly managing the career paths of employees.
Oct 16th 2015
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How do you know they don't? The majority of fast food managers and...
Oct 16th 2015
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      because we aren't disingenuous liars.
Oct 16th 2015
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      Pretty much.
Oct 16th 2015
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      lawwwwwwwd
Oct 16th 2015
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      There is no way a any management team has helped this man go further.
Oct 16th 2015
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You think he wants to be in that position?...
Oct 16th 2015
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fam could easily be knockin old ladies in the head or slingin bricks..
Oct 16th 2015
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If it was either that or my kids skipping meals, guess which one I'd do.
Oct 16th 2015
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      and once youre gone then they deeper in the hole
Oct 16th 2015
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He boasts about being a "2nd generation fast food worker"...
Oct 16th 2015
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      a dose of reality.
Oct 16th 2015
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      So?? Unless he's asking you personally for some money why do you care?
Oct 16th 2015
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if the revolution happened tomorrow, you'd be a snitch.
Oct 16th 2015
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The same revolution that produced the likes of Castro, Lenin, Mao
Oct 17th 2015
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right or wrong, your post is likely how most americans will react to him
Oct 16th 2015
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which is why it is important for more ppl to tell their stories.
Oct 16th 2015
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      what lies?
Oct 16th 2015
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           all of them.
Oct 16th 2015
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                So you can't give any examples? Gotcha
Oct 16th 2015
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                i just did.
Oct 16th 2015
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                     links nigga...
Oct 16th 2015
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                          reply 99
Oct 16th 2015
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                Lmao...glad to yall going in on these idiots
Oct 17th 2015
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                     bitch please
Oct 17th 2015
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                          you're mad. why?
Oct 17th 2015
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                          Your Mama's a bitch and you're mad...lol nm
Oct 18th 2015
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crazy how strong we are conditioned to devalue people based on their job
Oct 16th 2015
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it's not necessarily the people being devalued, it's the jobs that are
Oct 16th 2015
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      the ppl working the jobs have lives.
Oct 16th 2015
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           True, but their lives are not the basis for those wages
Oct 16th 2015
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                will the distinction matter when disenfranchised folks get violent?
Oct 16th 2015
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we got us another one huh?
Oct 16th 2015
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not everyone is destined or designed to rise to the top
Oct 16th 2015
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of course, so fuck any attempt to make it better?
Oct 16th 2015
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      thats not my point. i was addressing the OP
Oct 16th 2015
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If I didn't know that TheTruth wasn't a thinker
Oct 16th 2015
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I'm just trying to understand. I actually go to fast food restaurants...
Oct 16th 2015
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RE: I'm just trying to understand.<-----'-- that's a lie.
Oct 16th 2015
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let's examine this.
Oct 16th 2015
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      RE: let's examine this.
Oct 16th 2015
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           why should she go to law school?
Oct 16th 2015
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                Does she make more than $8/hr?
Oct 19th 2015
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i think you're right.
Oct 16th 2015
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Those aren't mutually exclusive propositions.
Oct 19th 2015
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ha! they MAD
Oct 16th 2015
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so?
Oct 16th 2015
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radical conservatives are crazy, radical liberal expectations are hilari...
Oct 16th 2015
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how about, "the gov't can, but hasn't. we should ask why."
Oct 16th 2015
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      yeah, they REAL mad.
Oct 16th 2015
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           we should be.
Oct 16th 2015
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                people in our communities are choosing to suffer
Oct 16th 2015
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                     burn it all down, or peacefully ask for a redress of grievances.
Oct 16th 2015
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                          math problem for you
Oct 16th 2015
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                               or, millions of poor ppl rioting in the streets.
Oct 16th 2015
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                                    all i ask for is action with the sob stories
Oct 16th 2015
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                                         this mentality leads to folks shooting random ppl.
Oct 16th 2015
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                                              we see this happen like once per month.
Oct 16th 2015
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                                              No, trying to better your situation doesnt lead to murder.. stop making ...
Oct 16th 2015
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corporate greed, systemic racism, and discrimination exists
Oct 16th 2015
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burn the society down, or petition the gov't for redress of grievances.
Oct 16th 2015
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      expressing grievances isnt enough we need action
Oct 16th 2015
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           burning society down IS action.
Oct 16th 2015
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                seeking better pay and/or education IS action too
Oct 16th 2015
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                     sure.
Oct 16th 2015
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I thought there was honor in all work
Oct 16th 2015
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I applaud this man and his wife. GREAT PEOPLE
Oct 16th 2015
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RE: I applaud this man and his wife. TRUE AMERICANS
Oct 16th 2015
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      i don't have kids, but as a child, yes i did
Oct 16th 2015
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           RE: i don't have kids, - NEXT.
Oct 16th 2015
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                whatever, props to two GREAT AMERICANS
Oct 16th 2015
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hmm where is he from?
Oct 16th 2015
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RE: hmm where is he from?
Oct 16th 2015
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      in rural areas, those types of jobs are made up of older folks.
Oct 16th 2015
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           I've been to fast food places in rural areas and I haven't seen this...
Oct 16th 2015
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                well i haven't seen 20 either c'mon.
Oct 16th 2015
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so basically his wife has been a CNA for 16 years?
Oct 16th 2015
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Nah, CNA is 6-12 weeks depending on the school
Oct 16th 2015
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http://www.cnaprepschool.com
Oct 16th 2015
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http://www.walkermedical.net/id2.html
Oct 16th 2015
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http://m.healthcaresolutionsandcareergroup.com/site/id16.html
Oct 16th 2015
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http://beacnact.com/course-description-certified-nurses-aidecertified-nu...
Oct 16th 2015
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Exactly, this is why we're falling behind as a society, this is what we'...
Oct 16th 2015
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      that old school mentality
Oct 16th 2015
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20 years? nah yo... someone convinced this man he couldnt work
Oct 16th 2015
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Glad we got Seasoned Vet to let us know the deal
Oct 16th 2015
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Did this dude ever try to improve his situation?
Oct 16th 2015
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what if he didn't?
Oct 16th 2015
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      This guy agrees with you:
Oct 16th 2015
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      so does this guy:
Oct 16th 2015
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      And he never worked a day in his life. LMAO
Oct 17th 2015
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      If he didn't try, then no respect.
Oct 16th 2015
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           crazy how even asking the question incites RAGE
Oct 16th 2015
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           this post is not rage; disenfranchised ppl rioting & killing ppl is rage...
Oct 16th 2015
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           *updates database*
Oct 16th 2015
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           Yay! for you
Oct 16th 2015
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           Right?!
Oct 16th 2015
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           if he tries, fails, then kills random ppl, will you respect him then?
Oct 16th 2015
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                Lol, stfu with that nonsense
Oct 16th 2015
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                I will never stop trying as long ppl hold opinions like yours.
Oct 16th 2015
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                ^ all day, every day.
Oct 16th 2015
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                if we win then more poor folk will move on from McD's
Oct 18th 2015
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                these mass shootings don't happen for no reason.
Oct 16th 2015
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                     Fuck those people who commit mass shootings cause they cant deal
Oct 17th 2015
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                          Right? If a white dude even implied....
Oct 17th 2015
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                               no mental health care, poverty, and incendiary political rhetoric.
Oct 17th 2015
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                I spend all day fighting on behalf of some of the most disenfranchised i...
Oct 16th 2015
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                word.
Oct 16th 2015
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                nigga... stop trying to act like you're some kind of people's hero
Oct 16th 2015
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                     'I got the gun, You got the briefcase. Its all in the game tho right?'
Oct 16th 2015
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                     Yes.
Oct 16th 2015
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                     let's pretend like you haven't told us what you do repeatedly
Oct 16th 2015
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                          And being the astute reader you are you have deduced what I do.
Oct 16th 2015
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                     this has got to be the most disgusting post i've seen
Oct 16th 2015
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                     The nigga decided to hit me with personal, low ass insults
Oct 16th 2015
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                          you attack the character of millions of poor ppl tho.
Oct 16th 2015
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                               nigga I ain't but a moment away from being poor myself.
Oct 17th 2015
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                     pow pow
Oct 17th 2015
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                     thought he was a public defender....
Oct 17th 2015
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                          the hate is strong in you.
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                So that's what us Black folks do....
Oct 16th 2015
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It says almost 20 years of working at McDonalds...
Oct 16th 2015
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Nah b, we control where we end up in life by and large
Oct 16th 2015
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      We disagree right >here<
Oct 16th 2015
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           right, but skin color is one of those things completely out of our contr...
Oct 17th 2015
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                Salute for the great conversation. Seriously, this is why I love OKP..
Oct 17th 2015
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Poor blacks wont get ahead if we keep applauding and coddling..
Oct 16th 2015
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let ignore ppl like him until they get violent to make their point.
Oct 16th 2015
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      what in the entire FUCK are you even talking about?
Oct 16th 2015
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      read my replies and figure it out.
Oct 16th 2015
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      only a dumbfuck thinks this way
Oct 16th 2015
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           ppl that feel trapped don't care. nm
Oct 16th 2015
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Wow I th ink I disagree with both sides lol
Oct 16th 2015
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Most people in those jobs likely didn't aspire to them
Oct 16th 2015
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suggesting such means you hate the poor
Oct 16th 2015
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      if that's what these niggas want to take away from it then so be it
Oct 16th 2015
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           oh you want hard times anecdotes?
Oct 16th 2015
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           you don't want to play this game nigga...
Oct 17th 2015
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                Powerful post bruh...
Oct 17th 2015
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                indeed
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                i'm sure you think it's profound.
Oct 17th 2015
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                of course you'd agree with him.
Oct 17th 2015
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                     Troll better joe
Oct 17th 2015
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                Thank you. Cats wanna wallow in pity....
Oct 17th 2015
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                yeah, that's what i did-- wallow in pitty.
Oct 17th 2015
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                     I didn't imply that you currently have it bad in life....
Oct 17th 2015
                     I didn't imply that you currently have it bad in life....
Oct 17th 2015
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                     it's a shitty post.
Oct 17th 2015
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                     The irony is hilarisad
Oct 17th 2015
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                          irony is the opposite of what you'd expext. nm
Oct 17th 2015
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                and you grew up to be a shit bag.
Oct 17th 2015
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                The difference between you and me:
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                     uh huh.
Oct 17th 2015
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                damn.
Oct 19th 2015
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           I thought you were Native?
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                I am, I'm also Black
Oct 17th 2015
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yes, underemployed and the unemployed must not have google.
Oct 16th 2015
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      sarcasm is the last refuge of those with no real argument.
Oct 16th 2015
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      actually...
Oct 16th 2015
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      Whatever you just posted makes sense. I'm sure it does.
Oct 16th 2015
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      Nah but there are ways to improve your situation on google
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           suggesting such means you hate the poor
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                hit dogs hollar.
Oct 17th 2015
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Dis ninja at it again.......lol.
Oct 16th 2015
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if they ain't out here jackin', they're doing something VERY right imo.
Oct 17th 2015
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I dont agree with ThaTruth, his sentiment lacks much needed empathy
Oct 17th 2015
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well, this is OKP.
Oct 17th 2015
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these viewpoints are not mutually exclusive...
Oct 17th 2015
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I think its loyalty to a fault
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      what a twat you are.
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      bi nigga
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           damn bro, calm down lol
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      we don't even know he 's been at mcd's for 20 years
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this gumbo is delicious.
Oct 17th 2015
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http://media.giphy.com/media/12lL9jqB0Ogx2w/giphy.gif
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      LMAO!
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      http://i.imgur.com/mFnwl9f.gif
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           this fool tried to cook gumbo with high heat...
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I cant front....I somewhat agree.
Oct 18th 2015
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Exactly. I am not saying that minimum wages should be....
Oct 18th 2015
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no but seriously, what is wrong with you people?
Oct 18th 2015
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I remember when a woman told W she was working 3 jobs
Oct 19th 2015
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Mike Jackson
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1. "this is the type of post that should get ppl banned."
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Mike Jackson
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3. "i am in favor of stiffling "debate.""
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we get enough of this shit from tv.
Why allow it here?

  

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soulpsychodelicyde
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7. "^^^^"
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SoWhat
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9. "you know?"
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fuck you.

  

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MEAT
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2. "Meh, congrats to the man for being employed for 2 decades"
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Fri Oct-16-15 12:06 PM by MEAT

  

          

In a society that took care of its people he would've just had 2 decades towards a pension.

Instead McDonald's has continued to grow exponentially while paying someone less than $8 an hour for over two decades. Meanwhile the government has foot the bill for a majority of his insurance and will continue to after his retirement.

But hey, let's shit on the little guy. Because success is 1000% about drive, and clearly he just wasn't driven enough.

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4. "excellent response."
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5. "honesty and integrity is a muhfugga...said his fam skipped meals"
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bcz of his low wage......we mightve been broke..but we dam shole wouldnve skipped no meals...

good man

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ThaTruth
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14. "I once had a job that paid minimum wage. You know what I did? I got a..."
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better paying job.

Fry cook is not meant to be a career.

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15. "yay for you."
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so the fuck what?

fuck you.

  

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ThaTruth
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16. "That's what most people do. "Move on up" like George and Weezy."
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"Stay out the dark, cause if I catch you when the sun is down..."
https://youtu.be/eaaTxVRG06c?t=89

  

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SoWhat
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18. "'most ppl'"
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and those who don't - fuck 'em.

right?

b/c clearly they're shiftless niggers w/o ambition. so they deserve their lot in life.

it ain't like forces beyond their control might make it more difficult for them to 'move on up' like the rest of us. if they're stagnant it's gotta be due to a lack of effort. they're unwilling to pull themselves by their bootstraps. it can't be about health issues (including mental health), immediate and/or extended family problems, poor decision making in their youth that has left them boxed in w/o options available to 'most ppl'. it can't be about the impact of entrenched, centuries-old racism. it's gotta be about their lack of drive. and if they don't have drive they deserve to starve.

amen, brother. amen.

i can tell all of that time you've spent in church has worked.

fuck you.

  

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220. "where did you get all of that?"
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>and those who don't - fuck 'em.
>
>right?
>
>b/c clearly they're shiftless niggers w/o ambition. so they
>deserve their lot in life.
>
>it ain't like forces beyond their control might make it more
>difficult for them to 'move on up' like the rest of us. if
>they're stagnant it's gotta be due to a lack of effort.
>they're unwilling to pull themselves by their bootstraps. it
>can't be about health issues (including mental health),
>immediate and/or extended family problems, poor decision
>making in their youth that has left them boxed in w/o options
>available to 'most ppl'. it can't be about the impact of
>entrenched, centuries-old racism. it's gotta be about their
>lack of drive. and if they don't have drive they deserve to
>starve.
>
>amen, brother. amen.
>
>i can tell all of that time you've spent in church has
>worked.


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223. "thats the bullshit his dumbass injects into the conversation"
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every.
single.
time.

his feeble mind automatically JUMPS to a "fuck the poor" mode

  

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60. "The numbers would say otherwise of this guy wouldn't be at the White Hou..."
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24. "reading the comments in that link you see the exact same thing "
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Fri Oct-16-15 01:43 PM by PoppaGeorge

  

          

over and over and over.

Nobody wants to hear that someone that worked fast food had the gumption to move on. Nobody wants to hear about the Walmart worker that started grabbing carts and is now a manager making decent money. The reason nobody wants to hear about it is because it's counter to the argument trying to be made. This back and forth will always exist as long as there's enough people out there that step forward like "Um... no, I used to work for said evil company and I got on up out of there/moved up in the ranks". There's always going to be people that will dismiss them as if they don't exist so they can keep claiming all people working there are stuck and can't progress.


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Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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Mike Jackson
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28. "we need to drown out these voices however we can."
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32. "what?"
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those stories are trotted out all of the time.

and when i hear them i think of the person's coworkers. there are relatively few managerial positions in any given entity. not everyone who works carts and/or fries can be promoted to a managerial position. somebody's gonna have to work carts and/or fries. the ppl who don't 'move on up' still exist. they don't vanish. they don't/can't all get jobs elsewhere. some are gonna stay there working carts/fries.

we need to deal w/them. b/c they're part of us.

i'd like to see conditions improve for them where they are. i don't think keeping conditions hard at the fries/carts level will necessarily inspire everyone who works fries/carts to 'move on up'. some ppl just don't have that drive. or they have other priorities. or they have issues beyond their immediate control that prevent their 'movement'. and yet they exist. and we need to deal w/them.

fuck you.

  

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48. "Do you actually go to McDonald's or Wal-Mart? Do you actually know..."
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anybody personally that's been on fries or carts for 10-20 years?

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61. "I know a woman who's worked in the customer service at Wal-mart for"
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At least 16 years and while she's not making minimum wage she's earning far below what 16 years in a position should be making.

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63. "Next..."
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>she's not making minimum wage

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65. "$8 isn't minimum wage."
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67. "So how much does the lady you're referring to make?"
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73. "no. never."
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i only shop at Barney's and all of my friends and family work on Wall Street.

fuck you.

  

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52. "then raise minimum wage to $10-$11/hr and be done with it"
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$15/hr is absurd. $10-$11/hr is where it should be to give those people that still work fries/counter a measure of economic stability.

The issue that many people refuse to acknowledge is that once that increase is made, hours will be cut. I've lived through a few increases in minimum wage and each time it went up that's precisely what happened. That guy/girl that was getting 30+hrs a week is now going to get 20. But she should be happy she got that increase even though the net effect is her making less per week, right?

The other thing that everyone seems to be missing is that a lot of the people that get trotted around when they're making the sympathy plea for a higher minimum wage is that many of them are NOT working full time; they're in part-time jobs. That last chick we argued about, Safiyyah Cotton, was barely getting 20hrs/week. So we're not even arguing about full time workers. This is especially important to note because there are very, very few people working in fast food outside of management that are getting 40 hrs a week.

Pay them more because it's long overdue, but that's not going to guarantee a better life.

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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75. "$15/hr is the goal."
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for now. and it'll need to be increased again later, of course. as long as we're all here we'll need to keep raising that minimum.

fuck you.

  

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20. "another reply that should result in an immediate ban."
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>better paying job.
>
>Fry cook is not meant to be a career.

  

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31. "please, qualify your statement"
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exactly why should these statements be grounds for a ban?

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33. "b/c some of us don't wanna read y'all's bullshit."
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sure, that works both ways. i'm only concerned w/this way.

i want you ppl gone.

of course, that ain't gonna happen.

but still...i want you ppl gone.

kinda like y'all want the ppl who work fries to just disappear. i want all ppl who agree w/Truth (on just about anything) to disappear. my world would be better w/o y'all in it.

but oh well.

fuck you.

  

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41. "ah, so it's another case of "Your rights end where my feelings begin""
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gotcha.

Entitled, bratty children the lot of you.

I have to ask though, mr SoWhat, have you ever worked in fast food for any length of time? I put in two years at Hardee's and got time under my belt at McDonalds, Arby's, and Taco Bell.

Surely you've worked or at least one fast food, minimum wage job before your illustrious career of putting drunk drivers, rapists, and thieves back on the street. Please, enlighten us, or are you yet another one of those people talking that have never walked in these shoes, just saying some shit to make yourself feel morally superior, and in your case trying to balance the fucked up shit you've done with something that might be positive in order to quell the guilt you have for getting a nigga off with a slap on the wrist that destroyed someone's life while driving drunk.

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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45. "nope."
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These assholes wanna complain about how most of the "good", "entertaining" posters left
because a few socially conservatives blowhards got banned?

aight. Fine.

But let's be clear.


If we had OUR way,
the socially conservative blowhards that remain would ALSO be banned.

Because this shit is not entertaining for us. Nor is it funny.

I am making my views on the overmoderation known.

This site is not over moderated.
If it was, I'd banish all of you ppl.

My rights would end where your feelings begin.

Just wanted to make that clear.

And the OP is reprehensible.
Every post I've ever seen from him is reprehensible.
Because thatruth is reprehensible.

That is all.

  

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77. "no.,"
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fuck you.

fuck you.

  

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88. "ha! "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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47. "this is funny coming from you..."
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>sure, that works both ways. i'm only concerned w/this way.
>
>i want you ppl gone.
>
>of course, that ain't gonna happen.
>
>but still...i want you ppl gone.
>
>kinda like y'all want the ppl who work fries to just
>disappear. i want all ppl who agree w/Truth (on just about
>anything) to disappear. my world would be better w/o y'all in
>it.
>
>but oh well.

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78. "i'm glad you think so."
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fuck you.

  

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215. "I applaud this ETHER"
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And I laughed

Prime example of the abuse trying to abuse

"hey, make this right mayne
stop at the light mayne,
my yester night thang got me hung off the night train "

  

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38. "your reply should be banned as well."
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>exactly why should these statements be grounds for a ban?
>

i don't like reading these lies.
i don't like explaining WHY i don't like reading these lies.

i want to get rid of you ppl.
all of you.

you are holding back hunan progess by existing.

that's pretty much it.

of course, i can't get rid of you ppl and your idead
any more than you all can get rid of me and mine.

but if i was a mod, you wouldn't be talking that shit here.

You ppl have have taken control of
the dialouge here.

why pretend to like it.

i wish you ppl would go away.



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>"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the
>peace when we were getting laid out?
>Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances?
>Where is the peace then?
>They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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59. "I don't care what you personally did. In a society of millions"
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Your anecdotal evidence is irrelevant.

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66. "posts #43 & #48. n/m"
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99. "when millions of anecdotes are the same or similar can you really"
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... ignore all of that especially when it's very easy to prove?

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113. "annecdotes are worthless."
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ppl that prefer annecdotes to facts
should be banned.

  

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124. "There are not as many made it from the bottom stories as there are"
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Still at the bottom stories. The numbers don't add up. So yes. I can dismiss a hypothetical million anectdotal stories because:
1. They don't exist in that quantity
2. The quantity that does exists pales in comparison to the opposite.

Hell, I'm one of those "came from the bottom" stories and I sure as shit didn't get there just by hard work. And there have been some lazy people on all points of that ladder and some hard workers too.

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144. "It ain't even about "making it" in the sense that you're balling now"
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and before you were broke, it's about getting that minimum wage job through whatever circumstance and moving on from it. I'd wager that there are millions of people across a huge swath of ages that can speak to that.

As far as it being "anectodal", we all have W2's and tax returns to back those stories up. If you don't want to believe the words from someones mouth then you can always turn to the IRS to corroborate much of that (as well as credit reporting agencies that tend to keep track of your employers).


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185. "exactly, people dont get that they themselves subsidize this farce"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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6. "old school says a job is a job is a job"
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b thankful be blessed keep food on the table bills paid
and a roof over your head and basic necessitys

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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8. "This is more to blame on Mcdonalds hiring policies than him"
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McDonalds being the cheap piece of shit company that it is, you never hear about them offering management training on the job. Some "OWNERS" will offer that out of their time and money but a sponsorship from corporate? Nope.

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11. "this isn't 100% true."
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If you express an interest in moving up, they'll guide you towards whatever goal you have. I've seen it personally when I worked for McDonalds and then there's this guy that moved up from the backline:

http://news.mcdonalds.com/view-models/executive-team-bios/detail?id=66

"Jeff Stratton is President, McDonald's USA, LLC. In this role, Mr. Stratton is responsible for the strategic direction and overall business results of the 14,000 McDonald’s restaurants in the United States....

... Stratton joined McDonald’s as a crewmember in his hometown of Detroit, Michigan in 1973. He worked his way up through the restaurants and held various field operations positions in the Detroit Region until 1987 when he was promoted to Staff Director of Operations and Menu Management. In 1990, Stratton moved to Columbus to serve as the Director of Operations, and later held several corporate positions at the company’s headquarters before returning to field operations as the Regional Vice President for the McDonald’s Denver Region in 1998...."

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Funny thing about guys like Stratton, they NEVER lose their training on the back line. My store happened to be a corporate owned McDonalds, we got a visit from a regional manager or whatever once and dude was back there with us on the grills making sure shit was done right, and he was fast as fuck with it too.

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10. "I blame MD's for not upwardly managing the career paths of employees. "
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13. "How do you know they don't? The majority of fast food managers and..."
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supervisors didn't start in that position, most of them started at the bottom and worked their way up and it didn't take them 20 years to do it.

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19. "because we aren't disingenuous liars."
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because we don't have the need to introduce a "debate" around settled facts.

because we don't value anecdontes
as much as statistics.

because we are not interesting in
supporting lies that are damaging to
working people.

because we are not stupid.

because we are not brand new.

because we aren't callous bastards.

that's why.



>supervisors didn't start in that position, most of them
>started at the bottom and worked their way up and it didn't
>take them 20 years to do it.

  

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70. "Pretty much. "
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109. "lawwwwwwwd"
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71. "There is no way a any management team has helped this man go further."
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12. "You think he wants to be in that position?..."
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My hat goes off to that man, he's working two jobs and prolly makin bigger sacrafices than you and I could imagine.

You missin the purpose of what that man is talkin bout

  

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17. "fam could easily be knockin old ladies in the head or slingin bricks.."
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that man is doing it the honest way.

  

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22. "If it was either that or my kids skipping meals, guess which one I'd do."
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27. "and once youre gone then they deeper in the hole "
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21. "He boasts about being a "2nd generation fast food worker"..."
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>My hat goes off to that man, he's working two jobs and prolly
>makin bigger sacrafices than you and I could imagine.
>
>You missin the purpose of what that man is talkin bout

So what IS the purpose of what he's talking about?

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23. "a dose of reality."
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w/o regard for how homie 'ended up' where he is - he's there. and he's one of millions. and w/o regard for what we think he should be doing - this is what he's doing. he's part of our society. he's part of several communities. he's working hard and barely making it. are we okay w/that? do we want this to continue?

he's there to spur conversations like this.

your perspective is a common one - IMO it's way too common. and i'm glad to see so many ppl challenging it. i hope that most ppl who hear this man's story are bothered by the fact that the man is working as hard as he is but still can't get ahead. he's still only drawing a piddly salary. i think his situation needs improvement and it can be improved via reasonable measures - like an increase in the minimum wage, for example. i assume homie doesn't want to work fast food for 20 yrs - but maybe he does. and that's fine too. i don't think it's right for a person to work full time and struggle. i think there's enough money floating around in the USA that we can take care of ppl like him more than we do. i think we should make changes.

fuck you.

  

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34. "So?? Unless he's asking you personally for some money why do you care?"
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The point that you're missin is minimum wage has not caught up wit inflation
& this country needs higher minimum wages that folks can live off.

You could make the argument that he should go to school, ok how?

He could find another job? How when the unemployment rate is through the roof.

It's easy to say what he should be doin from a distance.

  

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25. "if the revolution happened tomorrow, you'd be a snitch."
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Nobody should listen to you, ever.

  

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213. "The same revolution that produced the likes of Castro, Lenin, Mao"
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and Pol Pot? The same revolution that had its biggest supporters fleeing for their lives if they haven't got killed yet to the very countries whose systems they swear are so oppressive to the poor?

Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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26. "right or wrong, your post is likely how most americans will react to him"
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30. "which is why it is important for more ppl to tell their stories."
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ppl are ashamed of being poor.
they shouldn't be.

i applaud this dude for coming forward.

We need folks to step up to drown out the lies.

  

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37. "what lies?"
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please, tell us these lies you're hearing?

---------------------------

"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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39. "all of them."
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>please, tell us these lies you're hearing?

Everything this poster has ever said on this site.

Do a search.

If TheTruth typed it, it's a lie.
If somebody agreed with him, that's a lie.

If somebody asked for "clarity" about
why something ThaTruth as was a lie,
that person is full of shit too.

All of it.




>
>---------------------------
>
>"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the
>peace when we were getting laid out?
>Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances?
>Where is the peace then?
>They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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55. "So you can't give any examples? Gotcha"
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typical nigga that makes some shit up and when you call them on it they say "Just google it mah nigga".

You cannot cite sources for these "lies" you're talking about.

Until you can do this, you're the liar, and you should be banned.

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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57. "i just did."
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every statement he made in this post is a lie.

Every other post he made is also a lie.

He's a liar.



>typical nigga that makes some shit up and when you call them
>on it they say "Just google it mah nigga".
>
>You cannot cite sources for these "lies" you're talking
>about.
>
>Until you can do this, you're the liar, and you should be
>banned.
>
>---------------------------
>
>"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the
>peace when we were getting laid out?
>Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances?
>Where is the peace then?
>They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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95. "links nigga... "
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you did NOT cite sources.

Show proof or shut the fuck up.

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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139. "reply 99"
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lol

>you did NOT cite sources.
>
>Show proof or shut the fuck up.
>
>---------------------------
>
>"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the
>peace when we were getting laid out?
>Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances?
>Where is the peace then?
>They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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198. "Lmao...glad to yall going in on these idiots"
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I'm so tired of reading their bs opinions.

  

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200. "bitch please"
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205. "you're mad. why?"
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214. "Your Mama's a bitch and you're mad...lol nm"
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29. "crazy how strong we are conditioned to devalue people based on their job"
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including ourselves.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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58. "it's not necessarily the people being devalued, it's the jobs that are"
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we place no value on those particular jobs, even though they're pretty much essential to making a company run.

---------------------------

"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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74. "the ppl working the jobs have lives."
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fuck those lives, is the message of this post.

  

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103. "True, but their lives are not the basis for those wages"
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So, again, their lives have not been devalued, only the job.

---------------------------

"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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129. "will the distinction matter when disenfranchised folks get violent?"
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>So, again, their lives have not been devalued, only the job.
>
>---------------------------
>
>"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the
>peace when we were getting laid out?
>Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances?
>Where is the peace then?
>They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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35. "we got us another one huh?"
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...anyway, I wish homie nothing but the best....

On another note, I wanted a side job at MD a couple years ago, and my interviewer treated me like a one percenter playing with her time....I was kinda offended.... I've never been around such unprofessional, openly jealous folks b4 LOL...

"yes, sometimes my rhymes are sexist, but you lovely bitches and hos should know i'm tryin to correct it"- hiphopopotamus

  

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36. "not everyone is destined or designed to rise to the top"
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dont quote me on it but I think its a very American idea to have a drive to keep moving up.

I did wince slightly at the idea that someone would be a second generation fast food worker and put in 20 years and have three kids but, thats how it is for a ton of people.


Im conflicted but I get it I think

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40. "of course, so fuck any attempt to make it better?"
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you should be banned, too.

  

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44. "thats not my point. i was addressing the OP"
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and the idea that something must be way wrong if someone works the same job for 20 years and doesn't become manager

nor am I saying that we shouldnt help

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42. "If I didn't know that TheTruth wasn't a thinker"
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I'd think he was a bad human being. Instead, I understand that he's internalized the conventional wisdumb and is unable to see any other perspective. There's little use arguing with him.

  

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43. "I'm just trying to understand. I actually go to fast food restaurants..."
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I know people that work there or have worked there. I have friends and family that work or have worked in fast food. I don't anybody that's worked fast food for 10+ years and is not at least a shift leader. If you do your job and put in the time you eventually move up. If you don't do your job you eventually get fired.

Its hard for me to comprehend how someone could put in 20 years and STAY at the bottom unless they have some sort of mental or physical disability.

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51. "RE: I'm just trying to understand.<-----'-- that's a lie."
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>
>Its hard for me to comprehend how someone could put in 20
>years and STAY at the bottom unless they have some sort of
>mental or physical disability.


and what if that guy DOES have an undiagnosed mental disability?

fuck him, i guess.
Or work harder to not be disabled.

What a piece of shit you are.

  

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112. "let's examine this."
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> If you do your job and put in the
>time you eventually move up. If you don't do your job you
>eventually get fired.
>
>Its hard for me to comprehend how someone could put in 20
>years and STAY at the bottom unless they have some sort of
>mental or physical disability.

you said if a ff worker does the job well they move up. if they don't do well they're fired. unless they have some mental or physical disability.

so...maybe this guy has a mental or physical disability.

or maybe there's more to the world than what you've written here.

i work in an office where we have an admin assistant who's been here for 30 yrs. she hasn't been promoted and she hasn't been fired. she's been a secretary for 30 yrs. she hasn't moved on to some other job where she can advance. she's here. for 30 yrs. as a secretary.

analyze her.

fuck you.

  

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116. "RE: let's examine this."
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>i work in an office where we have an admin assistant who's
>been here for 30 yrs. she hasn't been promoted and she hasn't
>been fired. she's been a secretary for 30 yrs. she hasn't
>moved on to some other job where she can advance. she's here.
> for 30 yrs. as a secretary.
>
>analyze her.

She should've went to law school.

I bet she makes more than $8/hr though.

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117. "why should she go to law school?"
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fuck you.

  

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224. "Does she make more than $8/hr?"
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119. "i think you're right."
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fuck you.

  

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227. "Those aren't mutually exclusive propositions."
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>RE: If I didn't know that TheTruth wasn't a thinker
>I'd think he was a bad human being.


<----- Long Live The King

  

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46. "ha! they MAD"
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LMAO @ wanting an opinion to be banned

  

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49. "so?"
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>LMAO @ wanting an opinion to be banned

Conservatives fight for opinions to be banned all the time.

When the last time you heard somebody not support the troops?

That's a banned opinion.


We, as a society, ban opinions all the time.

Why not ask for different opinions to be banned?


  

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50. "radical conservatives are crazy, radical liberal expectations are hilari..."
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mcdonalds should
mcdonalds should
mcdonalds should

FOH.

  

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53. "how about, "the gov't can, but hasn't. we should ask why.""
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>mcdonalds should
>mcdonalds should
>mcdonalds should
>
>FOH.


or is that an opinion you want banned?

what a piece of shit you are.

  

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54. "yeah, they REAL mad."
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56. "we should be."
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ppl in our communities are suffering.
should we be happy about that?

glad?
indifferent?

anger is an appropriate emotion in this case.

  

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64. "people in our communities are choosing to suffer"
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72. "burn it all down, or peacefully ask for a redress of grievances."
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don't shit on ppl for expressing a grievence.

nobody benefits from that.

  

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82. "math problem for you"
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50,000 people are upset about low wages at mcdonalds

which option gets their voice heard?

1. 50,000 people getting up every day to clock in while expressing grievances for 20 years.

or

2. 50,000 people walking off the job because of low wages.

  

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85. "or, millions of poor ppl rioting in the streets."
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don't shit on ppl for talking about their problems...

that stiffles the likelyhood of being able to organize 50k ppl organizing a peaceful strike.

peaceful resoltion is better.
so quit shitting on folks that are suffering.

that makes them feel that they are out of peaceful options.


>50,000 people are upset about low wages at mcdonalds
>
>which option gets their voice heard?
>
>1. 50,000 people getting up every day to clock in while
>expressing grievances for 20 years.
>
>or
>
>2. 50,000 people walking off the job because of low wages.

  

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90. "all i ask for is action with the sob stories"
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dont just sit there and take it while complaining

get up
off your ass
and DO something about YOUR situation

then id listen
til then irdgaf
i really dont

  

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92. "this mentality leads to folks shooting random ppl."
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one too many dismissive comments
and ppl fly off the handle and kill ppl.

not my idea of our best course of action... but let's not be surprised
when ppl stop trying to work the system and "suddenly" turn violent.


shit ain't complicated.

but keep shitting on him and ppl like him.

folks will eventually take action
but not the kind anybody wants.

>dont just sit there and take it while complaining
>
>get up
>off your ass
>and DO something about YOUR situation
>
>then id listen
>til then irdgaf
>i really dont

  

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115. "we see this happen like once per month."
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no, not all of the mass shooters have been underpaid ff workers.

but they've all felt marginalized and disenfranchised and powerless and forgotten for various reasons.

we can't just ignore the folks on the fringes. not when Wal-Mart sells guns and ammo.

fuck you.

  

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132. "No, trying to better your situation doesnt lead to murder.. stop making ..."
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62. "corporate greed, systemic racism, and discrimination exists"
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THIS we agree on

its insane to expect that same greedy corporate, discriminatory, racist system to wake up one day and treat you fair and equal

mcdonalds has done exacly what i expect them to do
which is why its unwise to wait on them

  

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69. "burn the society down, or petition the gov't for redress of grievances."
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Given our options,
let's not shit on ppl for expressing
grievances.

which is what assholes like you do.

Why?

I know why.
You're a vile person.

Let's move on.

>THIS we agree on
>
>its insane to expect that same greedy corporate,
>discriminatory, racist system to wake up one day and treat you
>fair and equal
>
>mcdonalds has done exacly what i expect them to do
>which is why its unwise to wait on them
>
>

  

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76. "expressing grievances isnt enough we need action"
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action and personal accountability

however, feel free to call me another name because you disagree with me

  

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79. "burning society down IS action."
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I'd rather we resolve this peacefully.

Wouldn't you?

>action and personal accountability
>
>however, feel free to call me another name because you
>disagree with me

  

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83. "seeking better pay and/or education IS action too"
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87. "sure."
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let's avoid the likelihood of
violent action by NOT shitting on ppl
talking about their problems.

that works out better for everyone,
wouldn't you agree?

  

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68. "I thought there was honor in all work"
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80. "I applaud this man and his wife. GREAT PEOPLE"
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Glad to see he's at least been rewarded somewhat with a trip to the WH. Hopefully this trip will result in a better wage somewhere for him. He deserves it. I, and lots of people, have worked jobs that didn't pay enough simply because we loved the job and the atmosphere it provided.

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81. "RE: I applaud this man and his wife. TRUE AMERICANS"
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>I, and lots of people, have
>worked jobs that didn't pay enough simply because we loved the
>job and the atmosphere it provided.

were your children "skipping" meals?

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84. "i don't have kids, but as a child, yes i did"
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and my father worked 2 jobs. we didn't always have food, but my father was an inspiration. he worked hard, and if wages had gone up at the same rate as inflation, we would have been far better.

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86. "RE: i don't have kids, - NEXT."
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93. "whatever, props to two GREAT AMERICANS"
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89. "hmm where is he from?"
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when i'm out of nyc, there be all types of older folks working in mcdonalds/walmarts etc. Those are the only jobs available. Everyone can't make it to manager.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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91. "RE: hmm where is he from?"
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>when i'm out of nyc, there be all types of older folks
>working in mcdonalds/walmarts etc. Those are the only jobs
>available. Everyone can't make it to manager.

I know there are older people that work minimum wage jobs for a number of reasons. But how many of them have been there 20 years? Maybe they can't make it to manager but supervisor should be doable.

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96. "in rural areas, those types of jobs are made up of older folks."
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If you got a mickey d's with 20 employees 40+ years old that been there for 10+ years all of them can't get promoted to supervisor lol

I got fam that live in parts of Virginia that were shocked to find out i was working in an office in my late teens. They said those jobs don't exist unless you have a degree. Even clerical stuff.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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98. "I've been to fast food places in rural areas and I haven't seen this..."
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>If you got a mickey d's with 20 employees 40+ years old that
>been there for 10+ years

but I'll take your word for it.

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107. "well i haven't seen 20 either c'mon."
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i mean i've seen 10 bc there were 10 working. I assumed the rest of the staff was a similar demographic.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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94. "so basically his wife has been a CNA for 16 years?"
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becoming a CNA takes a 2 week course

it only takes 1 more year to become an LPN

stop with the excuses

  

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97. "Nah, CNA is 6-12 weeks depending on the school"
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---------------------------

"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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100. "http://www.cnaprepschool.com"
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http://www.cnaprepschool.com

  

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102. "http://www.walkermedical.net/id2.html"
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http://www.walkermedical.net/id2.html

  

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105. "http://m.healthcaresolutionsandcareergroup.com/site/id16.html"
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http://m.healthcaresolutionsandcareergroup.com/site/id16.html

  

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106. "http://beacnact.com/course-description-certified-nurses-aidecertified-nu..."
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http://beacnact.com/course-description-certified-nurses-aidecertified-nursing-assistants/

  

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104. "Exactly, this is why we're falling behind as a society, this is what we'..."
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teaching our kids.

"Don't strive to achieve, to excel, to better yourself, to improve your situation. Wait for the government to take care of you."

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108. "that old school mentality"
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like my older fam back home paying outrageous cable bills and don't even have internet at the crib.

I tell them to call and ask for retention but they shrug because they fear the loss of cable.

same thing with these jobs.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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101. "20 years? nah yo... someone convinced this man he couldnt work "
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anywher else.

and y'all niggas should be ashamed of youselves for defending this...

no one should work 20 years without a promotion unless they really like working on fries.


why we appluading/defending shit we wouldn't do?

and fuck McD's for not pushing that man into,a,better position.

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110. "Glad we got Seasoned Vet to let us know the deal"
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I had no idea so many shiftless field Negroes existed.

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111. "Did this dude ever try to improve his situation?"
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Dude could've went to UPS and came up. When I worked at UPS, I went from $8.50 to over $11 an hour in four years AND I was due to get a raise that year that would've pushed me over $12 an hour but I left for the military before that could happen.

Did dude even apply for other jobs during those 20 years? I don't have time to really watch and hear what he is saying. I'm just perplexed as to how this dude didn't find any kind of way to come up in 20 years.



Since 1976

  

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114. "what if he didn't?"
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what if he did and wasn't able to.

what if he didn't b/c he feels stuck. b/c he's convinced himself he can't.

what if he actually IS stuck?

does any of this mean he deserves to live the life he's got? when his employer can afford to pay him a wage on which he can live?

should his employer pay him more?

or does he deserve his lot in life b/c he hasn't advanced 'beyond' working fast food for 20 yrs?

what's 'wrong' w/working the same job for 20 yrs? does everyone have to 'advance'?

i just posted about the woman who's been a secretary in this office for 30 yrs. what does she deserve? since she hasn't 'advanced beyond' being a secretary for 30 yrs.

fuck you.

  

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118. "This guy agrees with you:"
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Marx_old.jpg

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120. "so does this guy:"
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http://a5.files.biography.com/image/upload/c_fill,cs_srgb,dpr_1.0,g_face,h_300,q_80,w_300/MTE4MDAzNDEwNzg5ODI4MTEw.jpg

fuck you.

  

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212. "And he never worked a day in his life. LMAO"
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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121. "If he didn't try, then no respect."
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I can understand if someone tried and had setbacks. But if they don't even put one foot forward then that's on them. Especially after 20 years.


Since 1976

  

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122. "crazy how even asking the question incites RAGE"
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128. "this post is not rage; disenfranchised ppl rioting & killing ppl is rage..."
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it's weird that you think ppl
writing about a problem is rage.

it's really not.

  

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125. "*updates database*"
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fuck you.

  

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127. "Yay! for you"
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140. "Right?!"
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126. "if he tries, fails, then kills random ppl, will you respect him then?"
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It's obvious he is not being heard.


>I can understand if someone tried and had setbacks. But if
>they don't even put one foot forward then that's on them.
>Especially after 20 years.
>
>
>Since 1976

  

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131. "Lol, stfu with that nonsense"
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Millions of people try, fail and try again...

You really want our people to not try so their feelings wont get hurt?

Have you stopped trying to advance in your profession?

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135. "I will never stop trying as long ppl hold opinions like yours."
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As long as there are ppl in positions of power who think like you on this issue I will never stop fighting. You ppl will not win as long as I can do anything about it.

fuck you.

  

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138. "^ all day, every day."
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Word.

  

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217. "if we win then more poor folk will move on from McD's "
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if you win, people will continue to work at McD's for 20 years.

but I guess the goal is to bitch about McD's low pay for flipping burgers and fries.

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136. "these mass shootings don't happen for no reason."
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Hopeless ppl kill ppl.
That is the trend.

Can we be less dicks about it?
Other ppl's pain affect us all.

>Millions of people try, fail and try again...
>
>You really want our people to not try so their feelings wont
>get hurt?
>
>Have you stopped trying to advance in your profession?
>
>

  

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169. "Fuck those people who commit mass shootings cause they cant deal"
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with failure or not getting a girl or a job promotion...

and fuck you for trying to imply black people are too fragile to better themselves

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177. "Right? If a white dude even implied...."
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....that Black folks had a proclivity towards rioting, looting, and killing because of a setback of two, this dude would be appalled. Yet he wants to pitch this hyperbolic nonsense. Since he's making excuses as to why people commit mass murder, I wonder what are his excuses for ol' boy who shot those folks in that church in Charleston?

  

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183. "no mental health care, poverty, and incendiary political rhetoric."
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>Since he's making excuses as to why people commit
>mass murder, I wonder what are his excuses for ol' boy who
>shot those folks in that church in Charelston?


doesn't take a genius to see what happened there.

hopeless ppl kill ppl.
not rocket science.

it's only racist if you assume black ppl are predisposed to violence.

but it's obvious anybody will break
if they get pushed.

maybe stop pushing ppl?

  

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134. "I spend all day fighting on behalf of some of the most disenfranchised i..."
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And it often feels like I'm climbing Mt Everest. Or beating my head against a wall. The task feels impossible. And it takes a toll on me bc i care for these ppl and their plights and I want them to win. Posts like this are especially dsheartening bc the attitudes expressed in the OP and by those who agree with it are held by so many of the ppl I fight everyday. It's hard. Anyway the better part here is I'm not the only one on he right side of this issue. I like seeing that. It makes me believe the work I do is worth it. I'm not in a position to effect large scale change. Yet. But posts like this remind me I probably should be.

fuck you.

  

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137. "word."
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i needed to read that.

  

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149. "nigga... stop trying to act like you're some kind of people's hero"
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You put drunk drivers back behind the wheel
You put drug dealers back on the block
You put rapists back in arms reach of their victims
I don't doubt that you've probably cheered as a murderer or two was let go or got off with a minimal charge and probation.

You're a professional liar. Most of your clients you KNOW were guilty, but you did everything in your power to get them off or get them a light sentence. Your biggest concern ain't about seeing them win, it's seeing your pocket get fatter. 'Cause if you were REALLY trying to see them win, if you really believed the bullshit you're typing, you'd be handling your cases pro-bono. If you're really trying to see these people win, you'd be an active participant in the Innocence Project or something of the sort to exonerate people wrongly convicted of crimes.

If you were REALLY about that life of helping people get better pay, you'd switch from criminal law to labor law so you can truly fight for the people.

But you're not about that life... you're profiteering off of criminals with complete disregard for their victims.

So, please, break your fingers in your luxury car door and cut off your own tongue so you can't write or speak that bullshit ever again.


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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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151. "'I got the gun, You got the briefcase. Its all in the game tho right?'"
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154. "Yes."
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Fri Oct-16-15 08:11 PM by SoWhat

  

          

I am exactly who you say I am.

fuck you.

  

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158. "let's pretend like you haven't told us what you do repeatedly"
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so you can pretend you're the champion of the downtrodden some more.

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
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159. "And being the astute reader you are you have deduced what I do."
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Fri Oct-16-15 08:42 PM by SoWhat

  

          

I am nailed by the stereotypes you referenced as you reached your conclusion.

fuck you.

  

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157. "this has got to be the most disgusting post i've seen"
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on OKP in a long while

"i fear no fate" e.e. cummings
"No girl. No fried chicken. I'm going back to get some sleep." - Haruki Murakami

  

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164. "The nigga decided to hit me with personal, low ass insults"
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couldn't even say the shit directly to me, nah he had to say it responding to other niggas.

When that happened, the gloves came off.

It's all cool to argue back and forth, that's expected. Debate is healthy and a part of life. But to sit off and attack a person's character? And get other niggas sittin off cheerleading the nigga forming pyramids and shit??? Nah b, fuck that. He get's what's coming to him. He has no real moral high horse to sit on thanks to his profession. It's one thing to play the moral crusader, but do so when you're not the cat getting known criminals get off the hook.


And... Fuck you too for making this reply.
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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
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Mike Jackson
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166. "you attack the character of millions of poor ppl tho."
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that character attack is cool.
but somebody accuses you of being
a slimeball and now you're indignant.

brilliant.

Now ask me "where did i attack poor ppl's character?"

actually, don't.
read your replies and figure it out yourself.

Jerk.

  

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PoppaGeorge
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171. "nigga I ain't but a moment away from being poor myself."
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>that character attack is cool.
>but somebody accuses you of being
>a slimeball and now you're indignant.

Nah, it ain't even that. This is some shit between dude and me. He knows what the fuck he said that got me on this shit with him and he ain't even have to go there. He could have kept shit just arguments and debates but he took it to the gutter, so that's where it's at.

>
>brilliant.
>
>Now ask me "where did i attack poor ppl's character?"
>
>actually, don't.
>read your replies and figure it out yourself.
>
>Jerk.

Yes. I'm a jerk because I just barely pulled my family out of the fuckin poor house. I'm a jerk because I finally got us off food stamps. I'm a jerk because I got us out of that weekly and into a rental house. I'm a jerk because we lost damned near everything from our three cars to our beautiful house, to shit we had to leave behind because we ran out of money and couldn't afford another truck and storage for it all.

Yup... that's me.

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Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
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167. "pow pow"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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203. "thought he was a public defender...."
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in any case you may be giving him too much credit
i doubt someone spending 4+ work hours a day here minimum has as high a win % as purported
he probably sees half his cases for the first time while in court like the majority of these other shitty PDs

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207. "the hate is strong in you."
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Let it all out, bro.

Lol

  

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142. "So that's what us Black folks do...."
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.....when we try and fail? We go and rob and kill folks? With few exceptions, that ain't about to happen with most folks. I've failed before, heck, I'm working through some setbacks now which includes unemployment and no unemployment checks and I don't have the urge to rob and kill. You're being way too extreme just to excuse lack of ambition, IF that's dude's issue.



Since 1976

  

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123. "It says almost 20 years of working at McDonalds..."
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He's 36 so that means he started at 16.

It's too much shaming going on in here. We are where we at in life because of circumstances out of our control and some circumstances that we had control over. It's not for me to say whether or not this man and his family should be where they are 20 years later. However, McDonalds could do a better job of helping employees advance.

It's going to be real interesting to see how society adapts to technology taking away some of these low wage jobs. It seems like corporations' response to rising minimum wages has technology replacing those jobs. That's quite a scary scenario for anyone with a child or grinding to make it. How fucked is it that society has reached a point where it would rather erase a job completely than pay someone an extra $2 to $5 an hour for a part-time job?

  

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141. "Nah b, we control where we end up in life by and large"
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>He's 36 so that means he started at 16.
>
>It's too much shaming going on in here. We are where we at in
>life because of circumstances out of our control and some
>circumstances that we had control over. It's not for me to say
>whether or not this man and his family should be where they
>are 20 years later. However, McDonalds could do a better job
>of helping employees advance.

Know what's out of your control? That stray bullet that left you or a loved one paralyzed, that drunk driver that smashed into your ride leaving you fucked up. Shit like that is out of your control.

Pretty much everything else is squarely on you.

How you proceed in life is yours to own. Whether you get ahead, barring life altering events completely outside of your sphere of influence, is determined by how much work you're willing to put into it and what sacrifices you're willing to make.

You determine your level of success. Are you willing to do what it takes to get out of the hole or are you going to sit there and complain about it?

>It's going to be real interesting to see how society adapts to
>technology taking away some of these low wage jobs. It seems
>like corporations' response to rising minimum wages has
>technology replacing those jobs. That's quite a scary scenario
>for anyone with a child or grinding to make it. How fucked is
>it that society has reached a point where it would rather
>erase a job completely than pay someone an extra $2 to $5 an
>hour for a part-time job?

It's always been that way though. The auto industry replaced line workers with robotics and many other industries now rely heavily on industrial automation to get the jobs done that once required people. Those jobs HAVE been erased. This is why the US is no longer a manufacturing center like it was decades ago. What you're talking about is the reality we've been living in at least all of my life.

And if it's not going to a robot, it's being shipped to a third world country where human labor is dirt cheap. This is the reason you get an Indian on the phone when you call up almost any large corporation for support nowadays and why so much of our shit says "Made in China".

Face it, the world you're postulating about is the same world you live in.


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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
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156. "We disagree right >here<"
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>Know what's out of your control? That stray bullet that left
>you or a loved one paralyzed, that drunk driver that smashed
>into your ride leaving you fucked up. Shit like that is out of
>your control.
>
>Pretty much everything else is squarely on you.
>
>How you proceed in life is yours to own. Whether you get
>ahead, barring life altering events completely outside of your
>sphere of influence, is determined by how much work you're
>willing to put into it and what sacrifices you're willing to
>make.
>
>You determine your level of success. Are you willing to do
>what it takes to get out of the hole or are you going to sit
>there and complain about it?
>

I saw it happen few times where someone's skin tone gave them an opportunity that someone else would not receive. I worked in a restaurant when I was young bussing tables. This couple comes in and I buss the table they're about to sit in. Cool, nothing happens. White guy that is a good dude mind you does the same thing. They see his plight and ask why he's working here. He shouldn't be working there and offers him a rather lucrative job offer. He takes it and the rest is history. Good for him and he's my friend to this day.

The same thing happens at uni except for this time it's a pristine pure white sorority sister that meets a successful businesswoman. We served the same people but these people found something in common, i.e. cultural reasonance, with the people that served them and it lead to an opportunity that advanced their world.

I'm not saying don't grind but let's not ignore the elephant in the room here. We know it exists because it happens all the time.

>It's always been that way though. The auto industry replaced
>line workers with robotics and many other industries now rely
>heavily on industrial automation to get the jobs done that
>once required people. Those jobs HAVE been erased. This is why
>the US is no longer a manufacturing center like it was decades
>ago. What you're talking about is the reality we've been
>living in at least all of my life.
>
>And if it's not going to a robot, it's being shipped to a
>third world country where human labor is dirt cheap. This is
>the reason you get an Indian on the phone when you call up
>almost any large corporation for support nowadays and why so
>much of our shit says "Made in China".
>
>Face it, the world you're postulating about is the same world
>you live in.

This is not the same world I live in because I don't work at these jobs. The general apathy towards the plight of others and excitement towards this scenario is what separates things now from back then. We went way too far championing the stock market and this push for constant profit at the expense of people's lives.

  

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172. "right, but skin color is one of those things completely out of our contr..."
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>I saw it happen few times where someone's skin tone gave them
>an opportunity that someone else would not receive. I worked
>in a restaurant when I was young bussing tables. This couple
>comes in and I buss the table they're about to sit in. Cool,
>nothing happens. White guy that is a good dude mind you does
>the same thing. They see his plight and ask why he's working
>here. He shouldn't be working there and offers him a rather
>lucrative job offer. He takes it and the rest is history. Good
>for him and he's my friend to this day.
>
>The same thing happens at uni except for this time it's a
>pristine pure white sorority sister that meets a successful
>businesswoman. We served the same people but these people
>found something in common, i.e. cultural reasonance, with the
>people that served them and it lead to an opportunity that
>advanced their world.
>
>I'm not saying don't grind but let's not ignore the elephant
>in the room here. We know it exists because it happens all the
>time.

And, again, it's completely out of your control. Look, there's no way I should have got that engineering job I had in the defense sector. I have no degree and only IT experience, but the section manager I interviewed with was a brother. He told me later he gave me the opportunity because he felt I would push myself hard to fit in with the rest of the people that had engineering degrees. He also gave it to me because I'm a Black man trying to move forward against everything. I stood in front of him and knew I wasn't really qualified for the job, but I gave him a pitch that made him feel good about bringing me on board. I walked into that company a senior engineer, with white dudes with degrees and experience under me. I probably took a job away from some white cat that was far more qualified for the job, but I got it largely because of my skin color.

At the same time I KNOW I've been denied jobs strictly because of my skin color. Companies that wanted to hire me over the phone where a face to face was only supposed to be a formality 'cause I had the job. But when I walked through the door and was Black suddenly they wanted to interview other people, suddenly the jobs disappeared.

But, again, this is completely out of our control. We cannot change what race we are.

>This is not the same world I live in because I don't work at
>these jobs. The general apathy towards the plight of others
>and excitement towards this scenario is what separates things
>now from back then. We went way too far championing the stock
>market and this push for constant profit at the expense of
>people's lives.

whether you work them or not is moot. The fact of the matter is there were once plentiful manufacturing jobs here in the US, and now the vast majority of those jobs have vanished completely or have been moved outside of this country. The few that remain are on the short list of jobs to be replaced by robots in the very near future. It used to be that you could get your HS diploma and if you didn't want to go to college or pick up a trade you could at least get a job on an assembly line somewhere. Those jobs have largely disappeared. This IS the world you live in.

I think we at least agree that shareholders and wall street are partly to blame for the current lack of jobs. If they hadn't started rewarding companies for laying off employees to "boost profits" back in the 80's, we would still have a lot of those jobs.

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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210. "Salute for the great conversation. Seriously, this is why I love OKP.."
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>And, again, it's completely out of your control. Look, there's
>no way I should have got that engineering job I had in the
>defense sector. I have no degree and only IT experience, but
>the section manager I interviewed with was a brother. He told
>me later he gave me the opportunity because he felt I would
>push myself hard to fit in with the rest of the people that
>had engineering degrees. He also gave it to me because I'm a
>Black man trying to move forward against everything. I stood
>in front of him and knew I wasn't really qualified for the
>job, but I gave him a pitch that made him feel good about
>bringing me on board. I walked into that company a senior
>engineer, with white dudes with degrees and experience under
>me. I probably took a job away from some white cat that was
>far more qualified for the job, but I got it largely because
>of my skin color.

I never really thought it from this perspective as an African-American male. Don't take this as me speaking on your life or making any negative assumptions about you. Quite frankly, you're black so even if you did get in the door best believe you're working harder just to justify your existence because of white coworker envy. Again, no shots at all just saying as black people we have to work hard as shit to survive.

>
>At the same time I KNOW I've been denied jobs strictly because
>of my skin color. Companies that wanted to hire me over the
>phone where a face to face was only supposed to be a formality
>'cause I had the job. But when I walked through the door and
>was Black suddenly they wanted to interview other people,
>suddenly the jobs disappeared.
>
>But, again, this is completely out of our control. We cannot
>change what race we are.

It is truth that we cannot change our race or the perceptions that come from it.

>I think we at least agree that shareholders and wall street
>are partly to blame for the current lack of jobs. If they
>hadn't started rewarding companies for laying off employees to
>"boost profits" back in the 80's, we would still have a lot of
>those jobs.

We're 100 percent in agreement about this. Another part of it is this post 2008 apathy towards people receiving government aid. How dare these poor black people receive aid from the government. This attack mentality on the middle class is sickening.

Thanks for the conversation. It's been really productive and conducive to actual discussion about the issue.

  

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130. "Poor blacks wont get ahead if we keep applauding and coddling.."
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when they hustle backwards.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Mike Jackson
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133. "let ignore ppl like him until they get violent to make their point."
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lol @ him thinking talking about a problem is worth it.

let him go postal.
that's better.


>when they hustle backwards
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143. "what in the entire FUCK are you even talking about?"
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145. "read my replies and figure it out."
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146. "only a dumbfuck thinks this way"
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Yes, let's give the corporations a real reason to dump more money into militarized police forces and prisons. Yes, let's give them a reason to dump more money into politicians pockets to roll back protective measures like Affirmative Action to keep us piss poor and broke. Yes, let's give those in power a reason to believe that they were right all along about us.

Yes, let's get violent and die and leave those that depend on us in an even worse situation than they were in when we were alive.

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Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
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147. "ppl that feel trapped don't care. nm"
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148. "Wow I th ink I disagree with both sides lol"
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There are some locales where it's hard to get/find real work, unless you got an education. Not everyone has the circumstance to do that. That's fine. Assuming they tried other avenues to come up...i'm not gonna write someone off just bc they been in fast food for 20 years. I need to hear their story.

But saying what if they didn't try bc they felt stuck???? Lmao gtfoh. There are plenty of things to try. It's a google search away. Not trying bc of (entire excuse here) is not acceptable on any level.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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150. "Most people in those jobs likely didn't aspire to them"
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whats more, they pretty much hate their work.

If that's the case, there's other shit for you to learn to do.

The way I see it, if you're willing to get up every day to go to a job you hate or had no interest in doing up to that point, then you can learn something else a bit more lucrative to make ends meet. You can learn development online with nothing more than a $50 CL bought computer and a cheap internet connection at the crib or learning it at the public library for free.

Before y'all try to say some shit like "everybody ain't interested in tech like that" just remember that everybody ain't interested in flippin burgers either, but they're in them jobs anyways. If you're going to do something you have never had an interest in, you might as well do something that can earn you a few bucks more an hour.

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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152. "suggesting such means you hate the poor"
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153. "if that's what these niggas want to take away from it then so be it"
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but considering that it ain't even been a year since my family got off food stamps or only a few months since moving out of a little ass weekly you'll have to understand if I really don't give a flying fuck if these self-righteous assholes think I "hate the poor".

Shit, the majority of them would prolly kill their families and jump off a bridge butt naked if they had gone through even a fraction of the shit I just came through. As much shit as they talk they ain't built to fall as hard as we just did. They ain't ready to go through the self loathing I just went through knowing that my failure is what caused all of it.

These niggas is twinkie soft. Fuck what they think.

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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165. "oh you want hard times anecdotes?"
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try growing up with a physically abusive, cruel, vindictive father.

try getting through school
with undiagnosed asperger's and a learning disability. teachers trying
to put you in slow classes, advisors telling you not to go to college.
kids bullying the fuck out of you.
father terrorizing you at home while
your mother does nothing to stop it.


try learning how to trust ppl
when you have no concept of "safety" at home.

try overcoming all the details
i left out of that story and
making a life for yourself
that is better than your past.

and after you've done all that,
tell me how you react when assholes
like you that likely would have killed themselves and others had they had to deal with a fraction of what you had to deal with growing up say "Black ppl would be better off if they would stop being lazy and try harder."


you think folks that disagree with you are soft?

your oppinions are worth jack shit.

i'm living proof that a hard life
doesn't have to turn a person into
a callous, unsympathetic scumbag
like you.

fuck you.
fuck this post.

Now who wants to point out that "i'm mad?" or "in my feelings"?

gee, what was your first clue?

fuck this post.
fuck you.
fuck anybody that doesn't find the OP
completely reprehensible.

90 percent of you ain't been through
10 peecent of what i have.
"Try harder?"

As the fuck if.



>but considering that it ain't evenmaseen a year since my
>family got off food stamps or only a few months since moving
>out of a little ass weekly you'll have to understand if I
>really don't give a flying fuck if these self-righteous
>assholes think I "hate the poor".
>
>Shit, the majority of them would prolly kill their families
>and jump off a bridge butt naked if they had gone through even
>a fraction of the shit I just came through. As much shit as
>they talk they ain't built to fall as hard as we just did.
>They ain't ready to go through the self loathing I just went
>through knowing that my failure is what caused all of it.
>
>These niggas is twinkie soft. Fuck what they think.
>
>---------------------------
>
>"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the
>peace when we were getting laid out?
>Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances?
>Where is the peace then?
>They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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PoppaGeorge
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168. "you don't want to play this game nigga..."
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>try growing up with a physically abusive, cruel, vindictive
>father.

Check. Make that man your stepfather and a pillar of the Black community, an activist to no end that has you growing up reciting Maya Angelou, The Lost Poets, and knowing who every important Black figure in recent history was.

Also make it so you see your mother's ass kicked on a regular basis. Have that man beat your ass and your sister's asses for trivial, meaningless shit while you're at it. Let him be an chronic weed smoker and heavy drinker too.

Oh, since we're playing that game, have him beat his own younger sister's ass in front of you as well for God only knows what.

Now let's add to this you own father who's a raging alcoholic with a temper, his brother, your uncle who's only 9 years older than you is also an alcoholic and with a worse temper. His middle brother, the only one in the family that managed to get through college another alcoholic, an alcoholic grandmother that you've personally had to help pick up off the ground at the age of 5 years old. Throw in three more alcoholic grandfathers on that same side of the family and... well... you get the picture.


>try getting through school
>with undiagnosed asperger's and a learning disability.
>teachers trying
>to put you in slow classes, advisors telling you not to go to
>college.

I got two of those kids I'm raising now.

>kids bullying the fuck out of you.
>father terrorizing you at home while
>your mother does nothing to stop it.

Yeah, 'cause, you know, moms was busy ducking and dodging his blows herself. It's bad enough that there are certain hairdos and outfits I can't stand seeing my mother in because it reminds me of the days seeing her being flung against the walls, face first and all I can see is the back of her head and the back of certain dresses.

Add to that my father who decides to beat my stepmother when he's drunk, to the point where I learned how to patch drywall after covering up holes he left after pushing her head through them

How about seriously contemplating patricide at 13 years old. Talking it over with your younger stepbrother and the lil white girl next door the morning after he beats the shit out of your stepmother. Telling them how you're going to pack a kitchen knife in your clothes bag and stabbing the shit out of him while he's driving you to your grandmothers to finish the rest of the weekend you're visiting. How about actually packing that knife in your bag, and sitting next to him in the front seat of that dark blue '84 Chevy Celebrity, bag in your lap, hand on the handle of that knife.

Maybe we talk about my moms getting remarried that same year, and only a 4 years after that you find yourself standing between your mother and your new stepfather with a bat in your hand ready to beat the ever living fuck out of him for putting his hands on her.

now fast forward 30 years, being able to put all of the shit those men and even your own mother put you through behind you (though to be fair, me and my mother are still working through our issues) and missing your father after he passed in 2001 to the point where, 14 years later, you still can't look at his picture without choking up.


>try learning how to trust ppl
>when you have no concept of "safety" at home.
>
>try overcoming all the details
>i left out of that story and
>making a life for yourself
>that is better than your past.

Did I forget you grew up in a slum? Did I forget to add watching a nigga OD on heroin in front of your while you're sittin in front of the crib on your Big Wheel, have this nigga slump over in front of you dying at the age of 3? How about your birth father abandoning you, your moms, and your newborn baby sister with us ending up eating fried hot dogs and eggs twice a day 'cause that's what's in the fridge. How about growing up watching all the shit going on with your moms and trying your best to find SOMEBODY in the neighborhood to give you a job... at 10 years old... so you can help your struggling family. Now have that carry over into your adult life, always trying to make sure the women you're with never have to struggle and taking it way too hard when you're out of a job and can't provide.

>
>and after you've done all that,
>tell me how you react when assholes
>like you that likely would have killed themselves and others
>had they had to deal with a fraction of what you had to deal
>with growing up say "Black ppl would be better off if they
>would stop being lazy and try harder."

Nigga you ain't the only one that's been through some shit. How we come out the other side is what matters. The reason I look at folks and don't buy their excuses is because of the shit I've been through.

>you think folks that disagree with you are soft?

as a goddamned marshmallow.

>
>your oppinions are worth jack shit.
>
>i'm living proof that a hard life
>doesn't have to turn a person into
>a callous, unsympathetic scumbag
>like you.

As a point of fact I'm quite possibly the most sympathetic person you'll ever meet to a fault. As I've said in other threads I STAY trying to help people get on their feet, even sneaking that point into those threads where I post up jobs folks can get right now ('cause I have a feeling some folks on here need better paying jobs but ain't trying to ask for it like that). I'm always pushing jobs at folks, always trying to make sure people I meet have a way to take care of themselves. BUT that doesn't mean I'm blind either. I know how shit works, I know what people are up against, and that's why I try to help them work harder to get out of that rut. I'm that walking proverb "Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for the rest of his life". Well... I'm teaching folks to fish. I'm not telling them to wait for the government or businesses to help them along. I'm showing them where they can get legit money right now; fuck waiting for it.

>
>fuck you.
>fuck this post.
>
>Now who wants to point out that "i'm mad?" or "in my
>feelings"?

Waaaay in 'em fam, waaaaay in 'em.

>
>gee, what was your first clue?
>
>fuck this post.
>fuck you.
>fuck anybody that doesn't find the OP
>completely reprehensible.

because he's not. If you want to be oblivious to the shit people do that gets them into these shitty positions, fine; be that dude. I, on the other hand, will let you know how you fucked up, but I will offer a solution if you're willing to listen and do it. Y'all, on the other hand, have ZERO solutions other than to wait and keep rallying for massa to give you a few more dollars an hour. Fuck that. The shit is out there right now if you're willing to put the effort in to get it. It's there if you're willing to stop wasting your money on shit that ain't getting you any closer to a better life. It's there if you really want it... And I'll show you how to get it when you get tired of minimum wage.

>
>90 percent of you ain't been through
>10 peecent of what i have.
>"Try harder?"
>
>As the fuck if.

and you know what... There's people out there that look at your life and would tell you that you had it easy compared to them.

For everyone that didn't have it as hard as you, there are many that had it far worse. Be grateful you're not one of them and keep moving forward. That's how I'm able to wake up every morning.


>>
>>---------------------------
>>
>>"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the
>>peace when we were getting laid out?
>>Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances?
>>Where is the peace then?
>>They don't want to call for peace then.
>

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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170. "Powerful post bruh... "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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173. "indeed"
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Mike Jackson
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181. "i'm sure you think it's profound."
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180. "of course you'd agree with him."
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Both of you suck as ppl.

  

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191. "Troll better joe"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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The Wordsmith
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176. "Thank you. Cats wanna wallow in pity...."
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....so they go above and beyond in excusing other cats who'd rather wallow in pity instead of trying to find their way out of their miserable situations.

It's obvious cats are acting hurt, thus their reasons for attacking others on a personal level instead of leaving their difference of opinion at a healthy debate. While I didn't have it as tough as you, my pops left my mama, sis, and me high and dry. I didn't grow up with a silver spoon in my mouth. And while I still enjoyed my early childhood years, things got tougher for me during my preteen and teenaged years. From having to deal with other kids trying me to questioning my mom's mental health, I had my tough times growing up. I've had plenty of setbacks in life and as stated earlier up above, I'm working on overcoming a current financial and unemployment setback.

That's why I was trying to figure out if dude even attempted to try to progress during his fast food tenure. Because I can relate to having hard times but cannot relate to not even trying to overcome those hard times. Cats wanna act as if those of us who DON'T have this misplaced "compassion" for a dude that may have not attempted to progress don't know what it's like to have it hard in life. It's ridiculous.



Since 1976

  

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Mike Jackson
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178. "yeah, that's what i did-- wallow in pitty."
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that's why i am still stuck at home,
living with my mom,
complaining about my lot in life instead of overcoming obstacle after obstacle after obstacle.

except, wait...

that's like the opposite of what happened.

my bad.
it's almost like you don't know me at all.

  

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"I didn't imply that you currently have it bad in life...."


  

          

....like dude that this post is about. You can be a success and still wallow in pity regarding feeling sorry for yourself because of your past. It's obvious you're that type of dude. The fact that the original post touched nerve lets me know that. Everything is extreme with you, sheesh.



Since 1976

  

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188. "I didn't imply that you currently have it bad in life...."
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....like dude that this post is about. You can be a success and still wallow in pity regarding feeling sorry for yourself because of your past. It's obvious you're that type of dude. The fact that the original post touched nerve lets me know that. Everything is extreme with you, sheesh.



Since 1976

  

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Mike Jackson
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189. "it's a shitty post."
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>The fact that the original post touched nerve lets me know
>that.

  

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192. "The irony is hilarisad"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Mike Jackson
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194. "irony is the opposite of what you'd expext. nm"
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179. "and you grew up to be a shit bag."
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you failed.
try harder, i guess.

Lol

  

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201. "The difference between you and me:"
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Sat Oct-17-15 01:24 PM by PoppaGeorge

  

          

You went through your shit while growing up and all you end up doing is talk about how the government should help the poor.

I went through my shit growing up and I actually help the the poor.

Huge difference.

While you sit there, admiring your words you typed just know that no one that was hungry was fed or bettered their position thanks to all that typing.

I, on the other hand, put two more people on to some better paying jobs they can do from home to help make ends meet just yesterday.


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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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Mike Jackson
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202. "uh huh."
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it is important for me to tell you
everything i do for my community.

it's important for you to know these things about me.

because your opinion matters, man.
i hope you approve of the work i do.

i really do.

  

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226. "damn."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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Big Kuntry
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182. "I thought you were Native?"
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199. "I am, I'm also Black"
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I've said that a few times on here. But, yeah, I'm biracial and part of that includes being a registered, card holding Native American.

The alcoholics I wrote about in the post you replied to.... That's them.
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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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155. "yes, underemployed and the unemployed must not have google."
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Bc it's good jobs on Google.

My bad.

fuck you.

  

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160. "sarcasm is the last refuge of those with no real argument."
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keep thinking you dropping bombs tho

  

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161. "actually..."
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without stating it completely, those jobs I've posted over and over that pay $13.50+/hr...

... yeah.

'cause I'm still technically under NDA, I can say that you work with large internet search providers... I just can't say which of them you work with, but those jobs are out there and you don't need special skills to do them.


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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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162. "Whatever you just posted makes sense. I'm sure it does."
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>without stating it completely, those jobs I've posted over
>and over that pay $13.50+/hr...
>
>... yeah.
>
>'cause I'm still technically under NDA, I can say that you
>work with large internet search providers... I just can't say
>which of them you work with, but those jobs are out there and
>you don't need special skills to do them.
>
>
>---------------------------
>
>"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the
>peace when we were getting laid out?
>Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances?
>Where is the peace then?
>They don't want to call for peace then.

fuck you.

  

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Cenario
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175. "Nah but there are ways to improve your situation on google"
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Such as adult education classes,training g for specific skills/trades, resume workshops etc.

But it do3snt matter what's out there bc ya'll are saying it's ok if someone doesn't try to improve their situation.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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190. "suggesting such means you hate the poor"
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196. "hit dogs hollar."
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163. "Dis ninja at it again.......lol."
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Ish makes me think about that archived Djpoke post
where you cold showed yo AZZ.

Do you tho, Troop.




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174. "if they ain't out here jackin', they're doing something VERY right imo."
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#BYLUG >>> https://goo.gl/1ooFp6

♚♚♚♚

screamin' mothafuck a 12 /
bitches ain't shit /
cops ain't neither /
they huntin' my people /

- i. rashad

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184. "I dont agree with ThaTruth, his sentiment lacks much needed empathy"
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yet somehow he's one of the least weird people in this post

  

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187. "well, this is OKP."
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we should expect okayplayery responses.

WE GOING POAST!!

let it cook.

we have gumbo.

  

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186. "these viewpoints are not mutually exclusive..."
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someone working at mcdonalds should probably should look for better paying work or work with more opportunities for advancement at least.

and

mcdonalds should pay more.

but let's not act like we KNOW this guy is a shiftless unambitious bum. we don't know his level of mental functioning, physical abilities etc.

But, by just reading the article you can see HE ALREADY HAS AS A SECOND JOB.

so he HAS looked for and FOUND other work.

so he clearly agrees with the viewpoint, there's more to life than working at mcdonalds.

that doesn't let mcdonalds off the hook for paying shit wages.

  

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193. "I think its loyalty to a fault"
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He damn sure isnt a shiftless bum

McDonalds could pay more BUT SINCE THEY DONT...

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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195. "what a twat you are."
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>He damn sure isnt a shiftless bum
>
>McDonalds could pay more BUT SINCE THEY DONT...

  

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204. "bi nigga"
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Mike Jackson
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206. "damn bro, calm down lol"
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ndibs
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197. "we don't even know he 's been at mcd's for 20 years"
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just that he's been in the fast food industry.

  

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Mike Jackson
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208. "this gumbo is delicious."
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I make it hot!


and they say this site fell off, lol

ya'll just don't know how to cook.
lol

  

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legsdiamond
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209. "http://media.giphy.com/media/12lL9jqB0Ogx2w/giphy.gif"
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http://media.giphy.com/media/12lL9jqB0Ogx2w/giphy.gif

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NoDrawls McGraw
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211. "LMAO!"
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https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

  

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216. "http://i.imgur.com/mFnwl9f.gif"
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http://i.imgur.com/mFnwl9f.gif

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https://soundcloud.com/swageyph/yph-die-with-me

  

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legsdiamond
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218. "this fool tried to cook gumbo with high heat... "
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rorschach
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219. "I cant front....I somewhat agree."
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That still doesn't excuse the low minimum wage we have in America. It's been proven that the average American worker can't survive off the minimum wage alone.

But the idea I'm seeing in this thread that someone should be on the fries for decades while their family misses meals is terrible to me. The better question would be why doesn't the fry cook want to advance his/her career? Why isn't their family woes enough motivation to make forward progress?


But we rather agenda the post up.....
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The Wordsmith
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221. "Exactly. I am not saying that minimum wages should be...."
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...where they are currently. I'm just wondering how in the world did this dude stay so stagnant for that long? My position is that I can't feel sorry for him IF he never even attempted to try for better.


Since 1976

  

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atruhead
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222. "no but seriously, what is wrong with you people?"
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a) that's rhetorical

b) by "you people" I mean a younger less kind me would have called you niggers.

  

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legsdiamond
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225. "I remember when a woman told W she was working 3 jobs"
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and he said it was very American of her

man, that ain't American, that's awful.

Did the WH get this man a better gig?

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