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FLUIDJ
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"OKP's don't understand the concept of dialogue."


  

          

There's no space allocated for the flow & growth of a conversation. There's only...get it "right" in the first reply or else....That's not dialogue. That's not how this thing is supposed to work. It doesn't work, hence the diminishing member numbers and quality of posts.

I try.
Y'all should too.

"Get ready..for your blessing..."

  

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Your lightskin is showin
Nov 13th 2015
1
his feelings hurt. being wrong blew him.
Nov 13th 2015
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being wrong about what? If i'm wrong about something I always cop
Nov 13th 2015
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i'm about elevation...not degradation.
Nov 13th 2015
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just cause you fucked up by not following a fuzzy point don't mean
Nov 13th 2015
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The OP isn't the problem. This ain't even about that. It's about
Nov 13th 2015
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      good observation. why do you think 'my posts' spiral out of control.
Nov 13th 2015
22
           Your "reputation" precedes you. If folks would take posts on subject
Nov 13th 2015
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On the other hand
Nov 13th 2015
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Challenge is good. We should all welcome and engage in it.
Nov 13th 2015
11
If you think no position is stupid, you might be too
Nov 13th 2015
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      Where did I say that "no position is stupid" ? Point me there please...
Nov 13th 2015
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right
Nov 13th 2015
44
https://youtu.be/cpPABLW6F_A
Nov 13th 2015
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Kind of like how that Claremont McKenna President resigned.
Nov 13th 2015
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how old is this board?
Nov 13th 2015
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Old enough to know better.
Nov 13th 2015
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This:
Nov 13th 2015
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IKR... and if you fuck up a post and edit it later on...
Nov 13th 2015
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The glaring intellectual dishonesty is what finally got to me
Nov 13th 2015
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telling: from that to sowhat calling ppl assclowns so i def feel you
Nov 13th 2015
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lolz
Nov 13th 2015
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I feel you, but there's no point in really trying anymore
Nov 13th 2015
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the biggest problem is that people don't want to admit that they're wron...
Nov 13th 2015
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its the main reason post go double and triple plat these days
Nov 13th 2015
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the only reason really
Nov 13th 2015
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and when people admit they're wrong and still get piled on.
Nov 13th 2015
31
That's the worst thing that happens here
Nov 13th 2015
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partied cause you changed your stance? lol..what?
Nov 13th 2015
34
True, might depend on how dumb what you said was lol
Nov 13th 2015
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^
Nov 13th 2015
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indeed!
Nov 13th 2015
32
I gave up that fight years ago. It's all about the "Gotcha" moment and
Nov 13th 2015
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i swear to god that post was not designed to be snarky.
Nov 13th 2015
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It's really not about your post.... it's culmination of many posts...
Nov 13th 2015
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      i intentionally ridicule positions contrary to mine in those posts.
Nov 13th 2015
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           That tactic has a limited effect
Nov 13th 2015
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           yeah.
Nov 13th 2015
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           good point.
Nov 13th 2015
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                Glad you didn't take that the wrong way
Nov 13th 2015
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                thanks.
Nov 13th 2015
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                the funny thing is that even the clowns are serious sometimes and
Nov 13th 2015
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                     good point. i think i've been put in a box, and that's not okay.
Nov 13th 2015
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                     you have and you tend to prove you belong in that box.
Nov 13th 2015
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                          you've confused me with someone else.
Nov 13th 2015
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                               cool.
Nov 13th 2015
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                     that could be true.
Nov 13th 2015
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           I can clap to all of that. And I get it. I feel like OKP is like minds
Nov 13th 2015
30
We all just became assholes
Nov 13th 2015
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i agree.
Nov 13th 2015
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it was one person and at that point i hadn't even read his reply
Nov 13th 2015
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      there were 2.
Nov 13th 2015
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*Offers hugs to everyone in this post*
Nov 13th 2015
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It's not a lack of understanding. Snark took over here in the mid
Nov 13th 2015
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honestly, the point in reply 29 is well taken.
Nov 13th 2015
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I've been hypocritical on this.
Nov 13th 2015
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      amen.
Nov 13th 2015
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Yup.
Nov 13th 2015
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....aka the SoWhat post
Nov 13th 2015
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^^^^^^^^^^
Nov 13th 2015
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base
Nov 13th 2015
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If this is about him, it really shouldnt be because:
Nov 13th 2015
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      i dont think anyone wants Sowhat to stop posting..
Nov 13th 2015
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      Yep. Folks understandably get off on attention from him lol
Nov 13th 2015
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      what he say? BURN IT DOWN!! right?
Nov 13th 2015
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      him and his minion Mike Jackson are the loudest and proudest ones
Nov 13th 2015
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           There's a lot of doing the most on BOTH sides but let's be real...
Nov 13th 2015
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           if we're being real, dont pretend its BOTH sides doing the most
Nov 13th 2015
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                reply 28.
Nov 13th 2015
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                hey, atleast you admit to holding the convo back
Nov 13th 2015
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                     yeah.
Nov 13th 2015
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                We disagree. Not much else to say further besides...
Nov 13th 2015
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                     oh thats just it, it IS reactionary...
Nov 13th 2015
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                          that's what a disagreement is.
Nov 13th 2015
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                               a disagreement is calling names and being sarcastic?
Nov 13th 2015
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                                    it can be.
Nov 14th 2015
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                                         Yep. It's really ironic.
Nov 14th 2015
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           reply 45.
Nov 13th 2015
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                FUCK!! how many times have ppl said that to you AND him?
Nov 13th 2015
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                     well, it's not like i didn't know what i was doing.
Nov 13th 2015
                          it's really happening. i'm so impressed with us.
Nov 13th 2015
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                               it'll be back to business as usual Monday morning, trust.
Nov 13th 2015
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                                    muthafucka, im ready!
Nov 13th 2015
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                                         ha ha!
Nov 13th 2015
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there are levels to not enjoying it here anymore.
Nov 13th 2015
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aren't levels 2 and 3 one in the same?
Nov 13th 2015
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nah 2 seems to be people who are miserable so they troll other people
Nov 13th 2015
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      Oh...well the #2's don't even realize oftentimes their #2's-ing
Nov 13th 2015
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pretty much...although i have a hard time believing level 2 people exist...
Nov 13th 2015
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You do have a point
Nov 13th 2015
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i think it's a fallacy that only 'miserable' people 'troll' or shake
Nov 13th 2015
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very true...i've done most of my 'trolling' when i'm in a happy silly
Nov 13th 2015
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naw there are like 3-4 ppl who only post to be negative and pile on
Nov 13th 2015
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      how can you possibly know somebody's motives?
Nov 13th 2015
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           i don't. but most ppl agree that bullying is caused by some underlying
Nov 13th 2015
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                i think that's something ppl that get bullied tell themselves.
Nov 13th 2015
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                     I think abusing power because you can is symptomatic of issues.
Nov 13th 2015
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                     what power do we have in these post?
Nov 13th 2015
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                          Bullying takes place here.
Nov 13th 2015
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                               can you point out a bully here?
Nov 13th 2015
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                                    In this post specifically or generally speaking?
Nov 13th 2015
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                     not sure online bullies have power
Nov 13th 2015
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                          then why do cops arrest and hassle the poor instead of the rich?
Nov 13th 2015
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lol That's one way to downplay assholish tendencies:
Nov 13th 2015
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that was a downlplay. i felt like a jerk while typing it.
Nov 13th 2015
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      It's gravy, baby.
Nov 13th 2015
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i think calling ppl miserable is a fallacy, in general.
Nov 13th 2015
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i totally agree.
Nov 13th 2015
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now let's try applying (hypothetical) logic
Nov 13th 2015
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      personally, I'm not here to fuck up anyone's day.
Nov 13th 2015
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      I wasn't speaking on you
Nov 13th 2015
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           NNN
Nov 13th 2015
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           the people who are offended by the edgier posters are maladjusted.
Nov 13th 2015
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                maladjusted... well adjusted....i dunno.
Nov 13th 2015
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                     basically
Nov 13th 2015
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                     I'll agree. I think I go down this route in the face of being banned.
Nov 13th 2015
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      that they are an asshole.
Nov 13th 2015
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      dig deeper
Nov 13th 2015
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           i am not trying to be obtuse...
Nov 13th 2015
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                we're all suffering
Nov 13th 2015
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                     those aren't the only two scenarios.
Nov 13th 2015
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      I refuse to believe folks days are being ruined behind shit on here
Nov 13th 2015
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           not only that. i believe folks inbox mods to get other folks banned!
Nov 13th 2015
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                Lol is that what's behind your 'CYREN BAN THIS MAN' replies?
Nov 13th 2015
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RE: i think it's a fallacy that only 'miserable' people 'troll' or shake
Nov 13th 2015
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      you've typed worse about me.
Nov 13th 2015
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           yes, no, maybe so :)~
Nov 13th 2015
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                ... i don't know what to make of this. im deciding to 'walk away'
Nov 13th 2015
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                     thank you, you cant successfully troll me.
Nov 13th 2015
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                          i've dreamt of you ever since i seen your fucking-face scarf 'tato chips
Nov 13th 2015
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                               Link?
Nov 13th 2015
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                               you know I woulda posted it if I had that shit.
Nov 13th 2015
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                               This is the wrong post for this shit...
Nov 13th 2015
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                               nope you're still failing
Nov 14th 2015
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re: level 3
Nov 13th 2015
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we talking 2015 or how I felt in the past?
Nov 13th 2015
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but u just described urself in level 3 tho
Nov 14th 2015
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      heh, but pointing that out makes YOU the miserable asshole
Nov 14th 2015
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      look up, I addressed this in reply 96
Nov 14th 2015
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this is a good post
Nov 13th 2015
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i do have to say tho
Nov 13th 2015
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This is true...
Nov 13th 2015
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#AgendaWars
Nov 13th 2015
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There's a "my way or the highway" stance that's driving people away
Nov 13th 2015
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which is hilarious...
Nov 13th 2015
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      damn
Nov 13th 2015
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      I'll use "Street Holler/Harassment" as an example...
Nov 13th 2015
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           ^^^not a club, yall just meet in the treehouse after school every day
Nov 13th 2015
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           ^^^ Exhibit A for everything that's wrong with OKP.
Nov 13th 2015
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                because I won't let you just spread your bullshit all over the forum
Nov 13th 2015
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                on the strength, step the fuck off.
Nov 13th 2015
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                     apparently it upsets you when I reply to you.
Nov 13th 2015
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                ^^ agreed
Nov 13th 2015
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           who cares? people change their mind. i'd say the main...
Nov 13th 2015
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                it's not just that...
Nov 13th 2015
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                     the argument is either good today with facts that support it
Nov 13th 2015
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                          on other forums you can't unless you're new
Nov 13th 2015
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                          well any poster can leave and be new somewhere else...
Nov 13th 2015
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                          Lol
Nov 14th 2015
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don't you put that on OKP...
Nov 13th 2015
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hey. you got any friends?
Nov 13th 2015
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      what are your qualifiers?
Nov 13th 2015
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           black & confident.
Nov 14th 2015
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archive.
Nov 13th 2015
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I just don't expect open dialogue anymore for the most part
Nov 13th 2015
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it even devolved in here a bit...
Nov 14th 2015
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so Im responsible for this post going to shit?
Nov 14th 2015
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Big Kuntry
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1. "Your lightskin is showin "
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3. "his feelings hurt. being wrong blew him."
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FLUIDJ
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7. "being wrong about what? If i'm wrong about something I always cop "
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to it.


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FLUIDJ
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5. "i'm about elevation...not degradation. "
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2. "just cause you fucked up by not following a fuzzy point don't mean"
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that okp do'nt know how to dialogue.

it happens here and there, but the problem isn't widespread.

you just gotta pay closer attention to what's being typed.

...

what will you make of this wasteful post?

  

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FLUIDJ
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9. "The OP isn't the problem. This ain't even about that. It's about "
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every single topic that's posted with some degree of sincerity behind it that ultimately turns into a shit show because people don't know how to carry on a dialogue. A lot of your posts (despite how they're plated) have a ton of merit and potential...but spiral out of control....

>that okp do'nt know how to dialogue.
>
>it happens here and there, but the problem isn't widespread.

Nah, it's widespread yo. The numbers don't lie. The pace of the boards don't lie.

>you just gotta pay closer attention to what's being typed.
>
>...
>
>what will you make of this wasteful post?

Move's on you playboy...make it. *finger guns*

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Kwesi
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22. "good observation. why do you think 'my posts' spiral out of control."
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despite them holding 'merit and potential.'

i have my theories. do you mind sharing yours?

  

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FLUIDJ
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26. "Your "reputation" precedes you. If folks would take posts on subject"
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>despite them holding 'merit and potential.'
>
>i have my theories. do you mind sharing yours?

matter rather than the presenter.....
let me back up...

posts that have honest & sincere subject matter not pointed & baiting....

and at least go from there....they'd be great. I mean...some end up great anyways once you filter out the B.S.



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4. "On the other hand"
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'Dialogue' is not carte blanche to make stupid statements unchallenged.

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FLUIDJ
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11. "Challenge is good. We should all welcome and engage in it. "
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>'Dialogue' is not carte blanche to make stupid statements
>unchallenged.

Where it falters is when there is no space allocated for a statement that you might not agree with to be accepted as a valid point.
Who defines "stupid"? If you believe that any point that you don't agree with is "stupid", then you just might be part of the problem.


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AFRICAN
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19. "If you think no position is stupid, you might be too"
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If I make a post insulting you, should I expect reasonable nuanced arguments ?
Honestly most of the extreme responses are to inflammatory positions or inflammatory posters.
Lot's of great discussions were and still happen here , I've disagreed with a lot of people and even changed my mind occasionally.

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FLUIDJ
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23. "Where did I say that "no position is stupid" ? Point me there please..."
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>If I make a post insulting you, should I expect reasonable
>nuanced arguments ?

Not sure how to answer this one. If an insulting post is made off jump?...hells no...just K.I.M. is my general move. I might reply to constructive dialogue later on down the thread....

>Honestly most of the extreme responses are to inflammatory
>positions or inflammatory posters.

Sometimes....

>Lot's of great discussions were and still happen here , I've
>disagreed with a lot of people and even changed my mind
>occasionally.

They do. But in many occasions it just ends up being a matter of the dominant thought drowning out all else.


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ndibs
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44. "right"
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>'Dialogue' is not carte blanche to make stupid statements
>unchallenged.
>

or factually incorrect statements

  

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6. "https://youtu.be/cpPABLW6F_A"
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https://youtu.be/cpPABLW6F_A

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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8. "Kind of like how that Claremont McKenna President resigned."
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She said something really dumb. Worthy of getting checked. But the overall tone of her email was conciliatory. Wonder if it was worth her getting ousted for.

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10. "how old is this board?"
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Fri Nov-13-15 10:08 AM by southphillyman

  

          

trying teach old dogs new tricks?
there are plenty of sites where you can get intellectually honest dialogue from ppl with opposing views
here's a thread about basic income (finland is implementing it in '16)
with intelligent well thought out arguments from ppl on both sides
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10553008
very little snark and almost no personal insults or ad hominen attacks
that was the first thing on the internet that i read this morning
went from that to sowhat calling ppl assclowns so i def feel you
but you should already know what it is by now, and bounce if it bothers you that much

come here because it's mostly "us" and because sometimes the snark and condescension is funny/amusing
that about it

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FLUIDJ
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12. "Old enough to know better. "
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>trying teach old dogs new tricks?
>there are plenty of sites where you can get intellectually
>honest dialogue from ppl with opposing views
>here's a thread about basic income (finland is implementing it
>in '16)
>with intelligent well thought out arguments from ppl on both
>sides
>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10553008
>very little snark and almost no personal insults or ad hominen
>attacks
>places like that exist on the internet, just have to find them
>
>
>come here because it's most "us" and because sometimes the
>snark and condescension is funny/amusing

It's amusing. It's always been amusing. There used to be balance though.

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flipnile
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14. "This:"
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>come here because it's mostly "us" and because sometimes the
>snark and condescension is funny/amusing
>that about it

  

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legsdiamond
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16. "IKR... and if you fuck up a post and edit it later on..."
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you gotta realize some people won't catch the edit or will frame the convo by the responded to the original post

I'm here mostly for the jokes and snark tho...

if I see some good info on here I apply it in real life...

people will argue against their own stance as we have seen these last few days, it's mostly about arguing with the name and not the substance.


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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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flipnile
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20. "The glaring intellectual dishonesty is what finally got to me"
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>people will argue against their own stance as we have seen
>these last few days

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_honesty

Watching folks twist themselves in knots to avoid compromising their narrative just killed any enthusiasm for participation. You know what recent post I'm referring to.

  

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47. "telling: from that to sowhat calling ppl assclowns so i def feel you"
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48. "lolz"
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>that was the first thing on the internet that i read this morning
went from that to sowhat calling ppl assclowns so i def feel you

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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flipnile
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13. "I feel you, but there's no point in really trying anymore"
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OKP has, like much of the "social" Internet, has become a place where groupthink is taking over.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink

Fuck it... it is what it is.

  

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15. "the biggest problem is that people don't want to admit that they're wron..."
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its really not that big of a deal. You do more damage by arguing a point that is clearly false.

I think everything really stems from that.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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18. "its the main reason post go double and triple plat these days"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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25. "the only reason really"
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that link i posted above has 200+ replies of real points being made
most of the plat threads here are mostly from a handful of posters going back and forth over minutiae
positioning the person they are debating with for a gotcha trap
doing that in OKS is one thing
but at this stage i don't really see the value in doing that over real issues

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31. "and when people admit they're wrong and still get piled on."
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see Shockzilla in the Apple store post. He was the picture of maturity in realizing his error, admitting to it and not attacking anyone for pointing it out

people need to follow that example

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33. "That's the worst thing that happens here"
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It actually discourages intellectual honesty. I've changed my stance on a reply that I admittedly hadn't given that much thought to, and the clowns partied.

  

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34. "partied cause you changed your stance? lol..what? "
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I hope I wasn't in that clown car

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Cenario
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36. "True, might depend on how dumb what you said was lol"
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That clown parade always goes lomer if you stick to the wrong tho

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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37. "^"
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fuck you.

  

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32. "indeed! "
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"Get ready..for your blessing..."

  

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17. "I gave up that fight years ago. It's all about the "Gotcha" moment and"
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intellectual dishonesty plus a bit of over the top SNARK.
.
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21. "i swear to god that post was not designed to be snarky. "
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nor was i trying to "trap" anybody.
i will cop to doing that on occassion.

i am asking a Black message board
about the FEELINGS they have towards cops.

that is all.
there is no right or wrong answer for that.

i want everybody's answer, even those ppl that i have called
conservative.

i want to know what emotions other Black ppl here feel towards cops.



personally, i feel rage, resentment, and a desire to fight back
against cops that fuck with Black ppl for little to no reason.
i don't think they should have the right to use violence against
me just because i disobey their orders. especially for some
minor ass shit that i know they don't bother white folks for.


of course, i don't walk around expressing these feelings towards cops... because, who is trying to get shot or whatever.

but the emotion is there.


that is the dialouge i was looking for.
i didn't snark nobody in that post.


  

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24. "It's really not about your post.... it's culmination of many posts..."
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but the ones centered around police brutality, injustice, etc are generally the ones that inspired it.

>nor was i trying to "trap" anybody.
>i will cop to doing that on occassion.
>
>i am asking a Black message board
>about the FEELINGS they have towards cops.
>
>that is all.
>there is no right or wrong answer for that.

>i want everybody's answer, even those ppl that i have called
>conservative.
>
>i want to know what emotions other Black ppl here feel towards
>cops.
>
>
>
>personally, i feel rage, resentment, and a desire to fight
>back
>against cops that fuck with Black ppl for little to no
>reason.
>i don't think they should have the right to use violence
>against
>me just because i disobey their orders. especially for some
>minor ass shit that i know they don't bother white folks for.
>
>
>
>of course, i don't walk around expressing these feelings
>towards cops... because, who is trying to get shot or
>whatever.
>
>but the emotion is there.
>
>
>that is the dialouge i was looking for.
>i didn't snark nobody in that post.


^^put this in that post fam. For real. This isn't a spin off at all. Didn't mean to make it seem that way.

"Get ready..for your blessing..."

  

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Mike Jackson
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28. "i intentionally ridicule positions contrary to mine in those posts. "
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>but the ones centered around police brutality, injustice, etc
>are generally the ones that inspired it.
>


because as i see it, those in power stay in power
by making everything a "debate."

"yeah, it was wrong for the cops to shoot that Black person,
but lets look at both sides. this kid had an unprofessional facebook profile. or he might have stolen some cigars. or he shouldn't have been selling loose cigarettes. or whatever."


the fact that "we" (rubs skin) are debating about
Black on Black crime and kids sagging their pants in a conversation
that started about a cop shooting an unarmed Black person
is a travesty.


because it's a way to get us to avoid talking about
the fact that Black ppl, for all intents and purposes,
live under a police state, and the penalty for non-compliance
could be extreme violence at the hands of law enforcement.



anything that shifts the conversation AWAY from that is a dangerous dialouge.

so yeah, i'll ridicule and use ad hominems and condescend in those posts. because that is the tactic that "they" use against us
whenever we bring up a legit grievance.


they trivialize it, deny it, attack the tactics we use to make our point... do ANYTHING to avoid talking about the fact that
a cop killed an unarmed Black person. Again.

the "dialouge" seems like a diversionary tactic,
and it's dangerous because it leads to many ppl feeling
that maybe Black kids just deserve the treatment they get from cops because they are just bad.

inferior.

no.

i don't think that's a dialouge we need to have or even entertain.


that's why i post that way.
i doubt i'll stop.

  

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29. "That tactic has a limited effect"
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Yes some people are assholes and not worth typing to but a lot of good points get lost in the sarcasm and snark.
The people who type ridiculous responses are not the only people reading a post.
My point is, it's not just dismissive to the person its directed to but other readers as well.

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35. "yeah."
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39. "good point."
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and that's why i wish the class clowns and everyone who's here just to snark and be a dick would go away. or i wish there were fewer of them or that they posted less often. i go w/the ridicule route trying my best to shut them the fuck up and it works at times but i agree it can have a negative impact on dialogue.

fuck you.

  

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40. "Glad you didn't take that the wrong way"
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for the record I enjoy your 'sincere' posts, regardless of subject matter and you and the other gay posters who posted about their everyday life helped change my world view drastically.
I don't think that would have happened if everyone was snarking like crazy.
Then again maybe this is a different place now.

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41. "thanks."
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i agree - the place might be different now and i dunno that those posts would be received the same way. i think in part b/c of my history and b/c of the nature of this place now that more ppl would line up to snark and joke and derail the conversation(s) and they might drown out the more level-headed, sane, sincere voices.

fuck you.

  

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55. "the funny thing is that even the clowns are serious sometimes and "
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even the serious will clown at times. It could depend on the topic or what that person is feeling that day.

so to a reader when someone you(sowhat) considers a clown makes an interesting point, and you dismiss it with snark bc of who the poster is, it makes you look like the crazy one that can't have a conversation or the one who doesn't have a point so they are just gonna derail. And whatever your underlying point under the snark was gets lost.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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56. "good point. i think i've been put in a box, and that's not okay."
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im okay with sowhat having his tantrums.

we all should be given the room to have tantrums.

why can't we do both, again?

  

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63. "you have and you tend to prove you belong in that box."
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like, almost everyday you prove it.

fuck you.

  

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66. "you've confused me with someone else."
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67. "cool."
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fuck you.

  

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60. "that could be true."
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i don't think i do what you've said but if so then yeah, i guess.

fuck you.

  

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30. "I can clap to all of that. And I get it. I feel like OKP is like minds"
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with a common goal and desire though... And this is one of the few forums where that kinda stuff should be on the table and fleshed out.

Otherwise we're all just preaching to the choir.

"Get ready..for your blessing..."

  

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27. "We all just became assholes"
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Part of it is being tired of dealing with assholes but some of the best posters on here are damn near unreadable now.
======================================
http://www.zuitomedia.com/

  

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38. "i agree."
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i only brought up your original reply in response to spm's needless snark in that post directed at the OP. i understood and acknowledged that you later changed your answer - my point in response to spm's bullshit was that a couple folks had answered 'no' to a question he claimed had an obvious answer of 'yes'.

fuck you.

  

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54. "it was one person and at that point i hadn't even read his reply"
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this is the intellectual dishonest stuff ppl are complaining about
the "bullsh*t snarky" question i asked: "who doesn't resent unfair treatment?"
0_0

this is more a clarification for who ever may take your reply seriously
more so then a reply to you, since your explanation exemplifies the point of the OP here

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65. "there were 2."
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which is why i said 'a couple of ppl'.

blah blah blah.

and your reply over there typified the point in this OP as many of your posts do. you're a master at throwing stones and hiding your hand.

fuck you.

  

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42. "*Offers hugs to everyone in this post*"
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43. "It's not a lack of understanding. Snark took over here in the mid"
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00's and we haven't figured out how to turn back.

Where snark is heavy it's impossible to have real dialogue.

Half the people snarking in plat posts are really intelligent and could have great dialogue if they decided to. But folks don't look at OKP as a place to do that, anymore.

  

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45. "honestly, the point in reply 29 is well taken. "
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i can't disagree, really.
i will cop to getting frustrated pretty easily these days,
mostly because i come to okp because there is stuff
that we really should be talking about...

and so many of the replies sound like the stuff
i came to okp to avoid.

kinda like a safe space from the common narrative associated to
most things.


i am pretty level headed in real life,
and i make my points in conversation.

but when folks start snarking me HERE for points that i
don't feel like i should have to dance around, it gets beyond old.

like... everything ain't a joke.

i love okp when it's all jokes.
but a post about Black ppl getting murdered ain't the time
for devil's advocate just for shits and giggles.

it feels like some posters are trivializing important shit
just for the fuck of it.

it's an ugly thing to do.


i'm glad to see some old faces around nowadays.
it makes it easier to ignore bullshit.


>Half the people snarking in plat posts are really intelligent
>and could have great dialogue if they decided to. But folks
>don't look at OKP as a place to do that, anymore.

  

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52. "I've been hypocritical on this."
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On one hand, I enjoy alot of the class clowns here. But then, when I want to really talk about stuff, I want all that to stop so we can really talk.

I hate that it seems we can't do both, anymore.

  

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53. "amen."
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fuck you.

  

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50. "Yup."
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fuck you.

  

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46. "....aka the SoWhat post"
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49. "^^^^^^^^^^"
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51. "base"
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57. "If this is about him, it really shouldnt be because:"
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...as someone who is pretty much objectively outside all the hoopla
peering in, I can attest to every one of us being accountable for the
direction this board has taken. Scapegoating one poster isn't accurate
and more importantly, say he stopped posting - would the issues being
raised in this post be addressed? Nope.

Real talk: if dialogue is what we're after let's have at it and make
the effort by chilling with the blaming, justifications, and excuses.

  

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74. "i dont think anyone wants Sowhat to stop posting.."
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put he has stated plenty of times he wants most of us to stop posting.

that's all I will say about that

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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84. "Yep. Folks understandably get off on attention from him lol"
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Some don't care whether it's positive, neutral or negative attention.

I'm just saying I see his name thrown around like he's the catalyst
to these petty spats when that really isn't the case.

  

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101. "what he say? BURN IT DOWN!! right?"
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cause only his opinion matters in any conversation on OKP

  

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100. "him and his minion Mike Jackson are the loudest and proudest ones"
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105. "There's a lot of doing the most on BOTH sides but let's be real..."
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...when folks talk outside their necks and say some borderline
personal shit that has no merit on the convo (like reducing someone's
entire position to being a byproduct of their sexuality OR arriving at a conclusion
about someone's world view based solely off their appearance)
Nuckleheads shouldn't act brand new when they get clapped at.

Reactionary responses to foolishness on here is arguably a futile endeavor
and possibly foolish too but at least it's not as lame as instigating shit.

  

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115. "if we're being real, dont pretend its BOTH sides doing the most"
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further
this isnt about someone getting personal
and getting clapped back

this (as the OP suggests)
is about natural, OPEN dialogue between adults being snuffed out by the childish antics of those that cannot express their opinions without name calling by taking different opinions personal.

its counter productive to what we all want.

whats more
people dont even understand the difference between a troll, someone playing devils advocate, and a different opinion.

far too often every different opinion gets lumped in with being a troll

if what a troll says upsets you to the point of lashing out
you're just as bad as that troll for feeding into it

maybe they arent trolling
maybe you're just too sensitive

  

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117. "reply 28."
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and nobody is stopping you from expressing your views.

you use whatever tactics you see fit
to make your points.

we do the same thing.

it is what it is.

  

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119. "hey, atleast you admit to holding the convo back"
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you should take a bow

  

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123. "yeah."
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120. "We disagree. Not much else to say further besides..."
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...the next time you charge SoWhat or Mike Jackson with whatever it
is you're charging them with ( since its apparently not reactionary
like I suspect it is) take note of the conversation that preceded
whatever is they're doing that's the issue?

  

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132. "oh thats just it, it IS reactionary..."
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its their reaction to an opinion they dont agree with

  

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135. "that's what a disagreement is."
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>its their reaction to an opinion they dont agree with


ppl write stuff when they disagree sometimes.

what do you expect ppl that disagree with you to do?

  

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147. "a disagreement is calling names and being sarcastic?"
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in an effort to get your point across?

do tell.

  

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158. "it can be."
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>in an effort to get your point across?
>
>do tell.


politicians do it.
advertisers do it.
pundits do it.

admittedly, it can be grating.
but yeah... it is a tactic that
ppl use. sometimes, quite effectively.

  

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160. "Yep. It's really ironic."
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The examples I listed above are just as dismissive as what seasonedvet
seems to be taking issue with you guys. Ya'll ain't taking things
personally by clapping back when your form of clapping back is ridicule,
snark, and trolling. It's giving folks a taste of their own medicine and it's
weird that this isn't blatantly obvious to folks crying for discourse
after talking shit or cosigning those who do.

I could be wrong about it all, but that's how I've seen this here being
played out.

  

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110. "reply 45."
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118. "FUCK!! how many times have ppl said that to you AND him?"
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but you two was too busy jumping around sharing candy and shit to listen

FOH fool
that bridge is burnt with me

both you motherfuckers can kiss my entire ass

  

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"well, it's not like i didn't know what i was doing."


          

this is the first post where we
talk about this shit for real, without the snark.

  

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139. "it's really happening. i'm so impressed with us. "
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145. "it'll be back to business as usual Monday morning, trust."
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146. "muthafucka, im ready!"
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148. "ha ha!"
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58. "there are levels to not enjoying it here anymore."
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level 1: it's not the same as it was - no shit, Im not who I was in 1999, 2004, or even 2013. the world changes

level 2: people who hate their lives make everyone else suffer along with them via negativity and trolling - that element definitely exists, but it's the internet

level 3: generally miserable people who hate posting here yet they're still posting here - I dont get it myself, maybe it's a habit they cant break

I dont take the internet very serious

  

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59. "aren't levels 2 and 3 one in the same?"
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I agree in general but I would've worded things a lil different

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69. "nah 2 seems to be people who are miserable so they troll other people"
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in hopes of making themselves happier by making others miserable.

3 seems to be people who complain about how wack the boards are but in every post every day.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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79. "Oh...well the #2's don't even realize oftentimes their #2's-ing"
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which is why I find a lot of the characters here funny and hypocritical

the do the EXACT same shit they be cryin about

add in some mental health issues and people who remind them of all those who 'wronged em' and voila

Misery Enterprises, llc


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61. "pretty much...although i have a hard time believing level 2 people exist..."
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bc i can't fathom the idea of personally getting upset bc of what someone posted on a message board but i know it happens.

Level 3 is bananas but people are like that.

def agree with this tho

>I dont take the internet very serious

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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62. "You do have a point"
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It's sad, but you kinda gotta accept that this is how it is. Sometimes kills me when I see someone state a sincere thought without trying to be an asshole and other folks that talk about how much they don't like "snark" but yet snark the shit out of damn near everyone.

It's the internet though, I've grown to expect it at this point.


Sometimes I'll see a post and want to write a long reply, then I watch all people being dog piled on for not going along with the groupthink and I'm like nah not even worth the words typed.

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64. "i think it's a fallacy that only 'miserable' people 'troll' or shake"
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things up.

it's not a good narrative - because you think people who have fun online, at the expense of others, are sad and lonely, and that's just not the case.

it makes you seem disconnected, or more simply - wrong, when you make observations like that.

your disconnection makes me less likely to validate your position on things.

i'm not sure if that's fair to you, though.

what do you think?

do you care?

and why you always calling me a piece of shit?

  

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70. "very true...i've done most of my 'trolling' when i'm in a happy silly"
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mood. Granted, i never troll to make someone legit upset or anything. Sheeeit, i wouldn't even call it trolling. just having fun. Could see why others consider it trolling tho

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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73. "naw there are like 3-4 ppl who only post to be negative and pile on"
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i don't even put ppl like sowhat or OE in that box yet
cause at least they have obvious agendas etc
the ppl i'm thinking of i don't even know what purpose their negativity serves beyond putting some one else down

if what they reveal about themselves is true, they def. all follow a certain archetype
which i find interesting

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76. "how can you possibly know somebody's motives?"
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that seems like an impossible thing to know.

  

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78. "i don't. but most ppl agree that bullying is caused by some underlying"
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issue(s)

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80. "i think that's something ppl that get bullied tell themselves."
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ppl with power exercise power because it's better to be powerful than powerless.

would you rather he a cop or the kid they are arresting for throwing an eraser?

would the cop ever trade positions with the kid because his issues are so profound?

i doubt it.

power gives you advantages.
not recognizing that is...


weird.

  

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81. "I think abusing power because you can is symptomatic of issues."
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Bullying qualifies imo.

  

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83. "what power do we have in these post? "
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the power to dominate a thread?

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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86. "Bullying takes place here."
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It may seem trivial but from a lot of people's perspective the result
of being on the receiving end of that behavior is pretty impactful.
Folks seeing the impact they've made on others have to feel some
sense of power in it, no?

  

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109. "can you point out a bully here?"
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114. "In this post specifically or generally speaking?"
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Actually, scratch that- don't see the benefit in naming names if folks reading know what's referring to them and what isn't.

Put it this way, folks hollering about capes being worn by people isn't just because they were defending intangible concepts like
gender inequality, a lot of instances were in defense of posters, actual Ok players too. Even tho I didn't necessarily need it, I've
been the beneficiary of that type of kindness in the past on here as well.

Things can and have gotten hella ugly on here when we've allowed it to.

  

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85. "not sure online bullies have power"
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they can just be ignored

and i don't see any correlation between having power and having a need to make others miserable in order to keep it
that's narcissism
which has a medical classification and....underlying causes

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106. "then why do cops arrest and hassle the poor instead of the rich?"
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i suppose it is possible for power to be shared, in a near utopia situation, but as far as i can tell, the reason ppl seek power
is because power has tangible benefits,
and you can make life better for you and your ppl
while making somebody else's life worse.

if a group is powerless, they will be exploited by the ppl in power until they build some power.


and if history is any indication, nobody gives up power willingly.

the gay civil rights movement is the only time i can think of
where previously disenfranchised ppl got rights without
some kind of war or bloodshed.

american colonies got free of Great Britian using violence.
slavery was instituted and eradicated using violence.
the police and the CIA used violence against Black ppl during the Civil Rights movement,

and on and on and on.

if you don't see it, i don't know how you don't.


>and i don't see any correlation between having power and
>having a need to make others miserable in order to keep it
>that's narcissism
>which has a medical classification and....underlying causes

  

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71. "lol That's one way to downplay assholish tendencies:"
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>... you think people who have "fun online, at the expense of others"
>are sad and lonely, and that's just not the case.

I don't have any issues with you DZ and generally enjoy reading what you have to say,
then again...you say some pretty off the cuff shit to people occasionally that
ain't worth reading imo and if they were directed towards me I probably wouldn't
feel so lackadaisical about.

I agree it's probably wrong to assume you're miserable, in fact you
strike me as downright jolly in your vids. Also, to your credit when
folks call you an asshole your responses oftentimes exhibit both snark
and accountability for what you said initially.

I think when you DON'T do that your posts run into problems.

  

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89. "that was a downlplay. i felt like a jerk while typing it."
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>I agree it's probably wrong to assume you're miserable, in
>fact you
>strike me as downright jolly in your vids. Also, to your
>credit when
> folks call you an asshole your responses oftentimes exhibit
>both snark
>and accountability for what you said initially.
>
>I think when you DON'T do that your posts run into problems.

and thank you for this response. it's very accurate.

i deliberately try to take a bit of accountability for things so im really glad you notice - there are plenty people that think im a horrible human being, and it makes me sad, on a specific level.

sad - because i know there's so much more that they are misinterpreting, on and offline, in their environment. They could enjoy this world so much more, if only they'd get over themselves and realize im actually a friendly ass mutha fucka. and that sometimes, they're wrong about stuff.

  

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91. "It's gravy, baby."
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>and thank you for this response.

  

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72. "i think calling ppl miserable is a fallacy, in general. "
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the human condition is complicated.
don't nobody feel one way all the time. or even most times.

and the only person that knows how someone is feeling is
the person feeling it.

so i don't get that diss when ppl use it, ever.

  

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87. "i totally agree."
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94. "now let's try applying (hypothetical) logic"
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(hypothetically) if a person comes online everyday trying to fuck the next person's day up, what would you assume about them?

  

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97. "personally, I'm not here to fuck up anyone's day. "
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but there are plenty of maladjusted people that are offended in the process.

I'm supposed to type unnaturally so they can be more comfortable?

  

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98. "I wasn't speaking on you"
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>I'm supposed to type unnaturally so they can be more
>comfortable?

but if you being you is something well adjusted people are turned off by, that sounds like a personal issue

  

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102. "NNN"
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103. "the people who are offended by the edgier posters are maladjusted. "
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you included.

  

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108. "maladjusted... well adjusted....i dunno. "
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this sounds like trying to decide who is miserable and who is not.
i don't get it.

i think everybody everywhere is just doing them.
we all get in where we fit in.

it don't make much sense to try to figure out who is living life right.


  

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111. "basically"
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****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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112. "I'll agree. I think I go down this route in the face of being banned. "
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especially for typing 'normally.'

It's such a jarring experience.

  

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107. "that they are an asshole."
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>(hypothetically) if a person comes online everyday trying to
>fuck the next person's day up, what would you assume about
>them?


but i am sure they would say the same about me,
so what does that matter?

  

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125. "dig deeper"
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someone gets a kick out of making others mad

sure they're an asshole

is it logical to assume they're suffering within?

  

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129. "i am not trying to be obtuse..."
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we are all suffering, in the Buddhist sense.

Life is insufficent.
Things fade, we grow attached to ppl and things we can't keep.

Suffering is just something humans navigate.

I dunno who is suffering the most.
I can't gauge another's suffering.

But i think that we like to imagine the ppl that hurt us only do it because they suffer more inside.

I can't clap to that rationale anymore.

If somebody is hurting you,
you stop them.

assuming they are suffering
maintains the status quo.

opression should be met with resistance, not existential sympathy


>someone gets a kick out of making others mad
>
>sure they're an asshole
>
>is it logical to assume they're suffering within?

  

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136. "we're all suffering"
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some of us work on it within, some make others suffer as a result

  

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140. "those aren't the only two scenarios. "
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I think this is a gross oversimplification of what's going on here, there and everywhere.

I won't begin to act like I know the whole story, but this ain't it.

  

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141. "I refuse to believe folks days are being ruined behind shit on here "
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Shit cannot be that serious. Then again I was shocked when I found out folk really be inboxing mods to delete post they dont like. That shit is still baffling to me.

  

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Kwesi
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143. "not only that. i believe folks inbox mods to get other folks banned!"
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then the mod comes to the post.

does a lousy job of due-diligence, and then decides that the accused is guilty.

it's bullshit.

...

not you though, cyren. me and you are buddies.

hey buddy, when you gonna unblock me from twitter??

  

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151. "Lol is that what's behind your 'CYREN BAN THIS MAN' replies?"
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That shit be so random but I be cracking up. And if that is really going on then that's just sad. It's probably what happened to all the funny niggas that used to keep this place popping. I'm surprised they ain't got to you yet.

  

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92. "RE: i think it's a fallacy that only 'miserable' people 'troll' or shake"
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>things up.
>
>it's not a good narrative - because you think people who have
>fun online, at the expense of others, are sad and lonely, and
>that's just not the case.

sad, lonely/awkward and not well adjusted, two sides of the same coin


>it makes you seem disconnected, or more simply - wrong, when
>you make observations like that.

okay

>your disconnection makes me less likely to validate your
>position on things.

yay

>i'm not sure if that's fair to you, though.

who cares

>what do you think?

who cares

>do you care?

I dont

>and why you always calling me a piece of shit?

you're imagining things

  

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104. "you've typed worse about me. "
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despicable. deplorable. repulsive.

you've typed one of those.

it'd be tight of you didn't mean any of it.

did you mean any of it?

  

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128. "yes, no, maybe so :)~"
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>despicable. deplorable. repulsive.
>
>you've typed one of those.
>
>it'd be tight of you didn't mean any of it.
>
>did you mean any of it?

  

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138. "... i don't know what to make of this. im deciding to 'walk away'"
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142. "thank you, you cant successfully troll me. "
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I'm sure you'll try again though

  

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144. "i've dreamt of you ever since i seen your fucking-face scarf 'tato chips"
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on youtube.

your goofy-ass was doing reviews for the new Lays potato chip flavors and i knew you were a gone-er, immediately.

...

i walked away just now because i want to this post, specifically, to remain pure.

we're really 'talking about it', finally.

and your flirting is a definite sign that you don't mind bringing shenanigans into an otherwise very mature post.

you the bamma, once again.

now and forever.

  

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152. "Link?"
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The mac n cheese flavor was some bullshit. Shit tasted just like the regular cheddar cheese joints. The gyro was trash. Only ones really popping was the biscuits and gravy.

  

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153. "you know I woulda posted it if I had that shit. "
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155. "This is the wrong post for this shit..."
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and it cant be true...

I refuse to believe it

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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157. "nope you're still failing"
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hopefully life gets better for you

  

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68. "re: level 3"
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no snark but haven't you left several times
i remember a couple of farewell threads from you
and yet NERL
i think the vast majority of ppl still here fall under level 3
minus being the being miserable part

>level 3: generally miserable people who hate posting here yet
>they're still posting here - I dont get it myself, maybe it's
>a habit they cant break
>


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96. "we talking 2015 or how I felt in the past?"
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2015 this is just somewhere I type

but yes I've been in my feelings on here when I was younger

  

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159. "but u just described urself in level 3 tho"
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And how many times you gonna resurface after declaring ur permanent exit?

  

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164. "heh, but pointing that out makes YOU the miserable asshole"
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shit is wild...

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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165. "look up, I addressed this in reply 96"
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if you think posting here makes me miserable in 2015, Im not sure what to tell you

there are decent conversations here, but many of these niggas are bored losers looking for any opportunity to jump in and get a shot off

  

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75. "this is a good post"
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i like reading some of yalls thoughts on subject matter. its why i decided to join (about 15 year too late it sounds like)
people get hurt/apathetic/vindictive/whatever. and its natural to want to respond in kind.

i don't think wild responses will end, but i think everyone once in a while a little "oh yeah i was def in the wrong in that post" works.

then there are those who will just continue to troll. to try to derail. i was a lurker in the pete/bartek/#### days, banning them (continuously) seemed to work ok. they always come back but at least there's relative peace for a while

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77. "i do have to say tho"
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#### posts were always funny to me cuz it was always on some "I'm great/yall not/get on my level" and the arrogance and delusion was really funny to me.

now its not so funny cuz it seems he had real issues.

my point is, its funny to to sometimes have extreme characters. something about a few of the recent ones aren't as funny tho. they are more antagonistic, offensive, and hurtful, it seems.

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82. "This is true..."
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... but some people show up to a post to pick fights and talk down to others. I can't wrap my head around the concept of logging on to repeatedly attack, harass, and stalk another poster. Sometimes it comes across like people are trying to win brownie points or kudos. These people, they, are agenda driven useless condescending Troglobites of the world and want attention I guess.

The blatant trolls like the dude talked military tactics in the Aurora post are out of line. As are the people that trolled tragedies.

  

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88. "#AgendaWars"
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I don't know if I was the one to come up with that phrase. Its basically any person who has an agenda and no matter what they are sticking to that agenda. This could be on any topic from feminism to police brutality to sexual abuse.

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90. "There's a "my way or the highway" stance that's driving people away"
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I've seen better back and forth debates on Reddit and 4Chan than here.

The hardliners here have zero interest in dialogue. There is no room for anything other than parroting each other and whatever blog-driven "talking points" they may have along with trying to be more hardline than their peers.


What I find most interesting, however, is some of those very same hardliners today were on the opposite side of some of these issues not too long ago (i.e. street holler/harassment).

---------------------------

"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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93. "which is hilarious..."
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how you grandstanding and then shooting holes in your stance a day later just because the sexes are reversed?

All while screaming for equality?

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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95. "damn"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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PoppaGeorge
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99. "I'll use "Street Holler/Harassment" as an example..."
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Not too long ago "certain posters" didn't think the street holler was a bad thing, even going so far as asking the same questions that those who don't see it as a big deal have asked.

Today those "certain posters" are vehemently against it and you're an asshole for doing it.


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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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113. "^^^not a club, yall just meet in the treehouse after school every day"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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116. "^^^ Exhibit A for everything that's wrong with OKP."
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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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122. "because I won't let you just spread your bullshit all over the forum"
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I get that it upsets you.

It'd be nicer if you told the truth why, but that would be off brand for you.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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126. "on the strength, step the fuck off."
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Nobody referenced you.
Nobody spelled out the letters "rjcc" in this thread.
Unless you have a guilty conscience about something, there was no reason for you to even reply to me.

Whatever perceived beef you have here either address it with me in PM's one-on-one or shut the fuck up here and keep it moving.

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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131. "apparently it upsets you when I reply to you."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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133. "^^ agreed"
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121. "who cares? people change their mind. i'd say the main..."
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problem is a bunch of butthurtedness and people taking things overly personally...

feeling like they know each other and taking every criticism as a personal attack.

sometimes things are, but you don't have this on other forums.

but your getting huffy over some past shit - a person having held a different in the opinion of the past - is an example of this history problem that's specific to okp.

  

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124. "it's not just that..."
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>problem is a bunch of butthurtedness and people taking things
>overly personally...
>
>feeling like they know each other and taking every criticism
>as a personal attack.
>
>sometimes things are, but you don't have this on other forums.
>
>
>but your getting huffy over some past shit - a person having
>held a different in the opinion of the past - is an example
>of this history problem that's specific to okp.

Without going into specifics:

Today you hold position A. You argue for it, see no problem with it, participate in long threads about it and hold fast to that position.

Tomorrow you hold position B. Your arguments are that a family member, close friend, person in your immediate community was affected by it therefore you're against it. But these events preceded your previous position historically, ergo said family member had been affected by it before you made your post supporting position A.

To me it seems that if you hold a position one day and give a reason for it as being a traumatic event that affected either yourself or a loved one, you can't possibly have held the polar opposite position in good conscience.


Give an example:

Today: "I see no problem with wage inequality"
Tomorrow: "Wage inequality is terrible and you're a terrible person for supporting it. My sister has been on the same job for 20 years and watched her salary barely go up while males that are in the same position often start with higher salaries"

So... today you don't see an issue with it even though it currently affects someone you love but tomorrow you argue against it using that same person as an example?

Nah b.

  

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127. "the argument is either good today with facts that support it"
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or it's not. i don't care about the past.

on other forums you can just start where you are.

  

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130. "on other forums you can't unless you're new"
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>or it's not. i don't care about the past.
>
>on other forums you can just start where you are.

Because I've seen it time and time again where a longstanding poster has been called out when their stance has flip flopped. I'm on enough forums all over the place where this happens repeatedly; OKP is not an anomaly with this.

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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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134. "well any poster can leave and be new somewhere else..."
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...million places to post now.

  

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162. "Lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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137. "don't you put that on OKP..."
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lol

It occurs amongst any group of people. We need to pick and choose who to have a dialogue with and not take others perspective personal.

  

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150. "hey. you got any friends?"
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154. "what are your qualifiers? "
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161. "black & confident. "
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what you got?

  

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149. "archive."
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and while you're at it, archive some of my old shit, too.

it's the right thing to do.

...

im really proud of you guys in here. everybody but sowhat.

he's decided to show up as a uninterested diva.

we need you to take the mask off, it makes sense to do that in here.

  

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156. "I just don't expect open dialogue anymore for the most part"
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I test the waters with a reply and see how they go from there. If they can't handle it I just KIM and don't take it personal.

  

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163. "it even devolved in here a bit..."
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hi rjcc and atruehead

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

Building repetoires (c) spm since 1983

  

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166. "so Im responsible for this post going to shit?"
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I dont have accountability issues but I didnt go at anyone's neck.

  

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