fuck you.

...cracked my face. I wasn't offended and that post didn't prompt this one, but I was hella surprised.

I suspect the rise in OKP conservatism isn't relegated to a select few posters or social issues.

fuck you.

i think is at play

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So I assume they've heard it all before and don't associate themselves with the white folks we do talk about.

White people have the luxury of not being a Monolith (seee I did it right there!)

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Movies I need y'all bastids to see so we can discuss:

Five Star - https://goo.gl/jBHbVv
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all people of color and most progressive white people bitch about white people, but there's occasionally some real, stormfront-level hatred spewed.

there's a line and it's crossed here too often.

fuck you.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Movies I need y'all bastids to see so we can discuss:

Five Star - https://goo.gl/jBHbVv
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fuck you.

when okp starts to mirror my own life.
christ.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

And i have never seen reason for you to use "we" in that context. 100% certain the OP didnt have you in mind

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

i appreciate that.

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talk/type freely.

im assuming most of the white that come here regularly are either self hating or think they're cooler than they really are.

and then there's mutha fuckin doug funnie. he's the man.

you express feelings that most of us don't have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEqa90XpPw0

fuck you.

and the barber shop gets it in.

if women can get it.

white people gonna get it.

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTY3NjY0NjQwNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNzk4MzQ2._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg

fuck you.

- i liked the other one more.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEqa90XpPw0
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Movies I need y'all bastids to see so we can discuss:

Five Star - https://goo.gl/jBHbVv
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12921326&mesg_id=12921326&listing_type=search

fuck you.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12922598&mesg_id=12922598&listing_type=search

I didn't read everything he wrote in both post but I think I can safely say that stormfront level is a huge exaggeration. This dude isn't arguing for the extermination of white folks.

I think he is mainly arguing that they ain't shit. Which is probably true to his experience with them (though it's wrong to generalize to all white people).



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Movies I need y'all bastids to see so we can discuss:

Five Star - https://goo.gl/jBHbVv
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we always gotta start there.

I kinda thought to myself....'How should I teach my kids to avoid me. Their enemy/caregiver/oppressor/breadwinner.' So I kinda trolled it by writing a long reply (the first one) pretending I did not understand the spirit of the OP....figuring perhaps that the ridiculousness of the premise may be illuminated by my feigned misinterpretation. Was disappointed by the lack of acknowledgement of my reply...but whatevs.

In anycase, overall I don't get offended much here. In fact...I'd go further in saying that discussions about race here are wayyyyyy more interesting and thought-provoking than any mostly white environment I might find myself in. I don't think it's quite as bad around here that some people are claiming in this thread. I'd much rather talk about race here than with the white people I work with. I want to like the people I work with...so I'm not likely to engage in those types of discussions. Sometimes I disagree with the popular thought here and I lost a friend on here who thought I was espousing racist views. But then I'll find myself in a conversation at work and realize I'm actually pretty extreme in my views (towards the progressive side) as soon as I'm outside the confines of this place which may sometimes classify me as non-progressive.

Personally, I've been simultaneously accused of being privileged and naive about street life AND a hopeless street-bum crackhead. Sometimes in the same thread. I found the either/or nature of that kinda interesting....like it's somehow 'cool' to live the streetlife, unless you live the streetlife.

Some of the comments in this one genuinely offended me though:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12919554&mesg_id=12919554&listing_type=search

Can't think of another post that offended me that much off the top of my head. So yah, that one bugged me. Couldn't help but wonder the resources and privileges afforded to the people making the comments in that thread. I mean, race isn't EVERYTHING. And such a lack of empathy and sympathy kinda disgusted me. The rockafella laws, mandatory sentencing and racist police enforcement weren't invented and enforced by white, middle-class heroin addicts from New England so I don't see the point in being so vindictive against THEM. But whatevs....

End of day...I don't think the way people talk about white people is problematic here. On the occasion where I see it, I am free to debate it. And mostly, I find the views here a refreshing change from other internet corners. This place really has informed and changed some of my views about race. And I can tell that when I'm in different environments that don't share the accepted paradigms of OKP.

with a legal system that has been stockpiling our young adult men (mostly) for the past 3 decades might be disgusted at the content of that article? Really?

C'mon, now

That's what you got from that? I don't understand why black people are disgusted by racial demographics in prison? Please tell me how I said anything remotely like that.

What I take issue with....is cheering on and celebrating the suffering of addicts because they are white and well-off. Addicts who have nothing to do with the injustices you're talking about.

fuck them & their privileges

Let me fix it for you.

Those white addicts do not suffer the same injustices.

There is no tangible way that they 'benefit' from having black people serve unjustly long prison sentences for drug crimes.

What you are saying is essentially the same as saying 'I wish more white people were shot by cops'. And the comments in that thread are the equivalent to saying 'Finally....white people are getting shot by cops too. Good!'

think about it for a second. You are blaming white drug addicts for unjust prison sentences meted out for black people? 'Fuck them?' What do they have to do with it?

Yeah, fuck them from benefiting from a system that will condem people who do exactly they do, but they don't have to be punished for it due to their skin color. Fuck their parents for suddenly finding some empathy... All that

Fuck you and the whitesplaining bullshit you on

'fuck them for being white'.

Kevlar lives in America. Fuck him for not experiencing chronic persistent hunger as a result of drought.

And FUCK Amy Winehouse. That white bitch. I'm glad she's fucking dead. Too bad she didn't go to jail first. Fuck her.

equating hunger to fucking prisons sentences vs caring rehab... you tried it though

How many black men had to go to jail for drug offences so she could.....do something or rather. Fuck her for benefitting from being white. Fuck her for BEING white. Fuck white people.

wtf I'm supposed to feel, "thank god those white kids get to benefit though"....?


Good for them that they get treated well simply because they are white, that is so wonderful for them

Amy winehouse and any other white drug addicts 'perpetuate systemic injustices' as much as YOU perpetuate CPH as a result of drought in other countries. Just because you don't suffer CPH doesn't mean it's your fucking fault it happens.

I'm done with this incredibly stupid and inane argument. You're hatred is blinding you from how hilariously dumb this is. You actually think that a white heroin addict is at fault for rockefeller laws and mandatory sentencing.

due to an uptick of heroin usage among white people.

OF COURSE black folks are gonna be like FOH. Shit's an outright dismissal of our humanity, the way it's presented in that article.

If you see a white person strung out on heroin and say to yourself 'Fuck that guy. I hope he rots in prison'. And you are motivated to say that because of some sort of misguided attempt for vindication of racial misjustices involving the war on drugs......you're racist.

I would presume that you don't say something like that to yourself if you take a second to reflect on it. But who knows? Maybe you do. Maybe you're racist.

I go to NA meetings with lots of black people. Many of them have been in jail. When a white person from a wealthy background joins our group (it happens).....the black people don't say 'fuck that guy. I hope he dies in prison'. They treat him like everybody else. Cause really, the only people who would project that type of baggage on a person so far removed from actual culpability for those unjust circumstances hasn't suffered from addiction or criminality in the first place. It's the kind of thing that comes from sheltered little brats who really have no business aligning themselves with the struggle that REAL and ACTUAL victims of the racialized drug war experience.

others are saying in response to that piece

and you're CHOOSING to do so.

not chasing your inability to empathize with black folks, so good luck with that

I've said several times on these boards, in several threads.....the greatest social justice issue in America is drug-related incarceration rates for black/latino people. I'm more passionate about this issue than any other in terms of modern civil society. You've got the wrong one. The only reason I'm even up right now is because I'm taking care of a newborn baby who's mother is black and is currently in jail for drug-mule charges. A case for which I was a character witness in the attempt to lessen her sentence. So you can kinda fuck off.

But I'm not going to dismiss the struggles of millions of white Americans who also suffer the consequences of the drug war and addiction. Much less, actively wish them harm......or blame them for the plight of black/latino prisoners/addicts. And that's exactly what people were doing in that thread.

I empathize with everyone involved in this drug war mess.....while acknowledging that black and latino people suffer more consequences than any other demographic. You empathize with black victims while expressing contempt for those who are white. So it's clear as day that YOU are the one with an empathy deficit in this matter. I am not the one who has said 'fuck them' in reference to drug addicts.

or even expressed that sentiment?

You can't.
Cuz I didn't.

THE ARTICLE was totally and completely galling for black people who have been victimized by, and fighting against, a pogrom against us for 30+ years. AND THE ARTICLE acknowledges that fact.

Since black people ain't dumb, OF COURSE they're gonna be offended by that.

And to expect people to suddenly divorce themselves from their struggle, which is still ongoing, to stop and empathize with those who, in many cases, have either active oppressed them (the cop from the article) or passively allowed/mocekd their oppression (the dude who *used to* shit on junkies until his daughter OD'D) is inhumane as fuck. And amazingly arrogant.

I feel bad for addicts, but I've BEEN feeling bad for addicts. It didn't require me to know addicts my color to empathize.

For many white people (and definitely those in the article), it's apparently very, very, VERY different when the addict is OTHER

I thought you made reply 163.

In anycase....I think you're simply reading the article and deciding that I'm somehow supportive of it or something?

I'm not.

I merely stated that the replies in that thread are racist. Which they are. I'm not defending that article or it's contents. I brought the post up because we were talking about incidents of racism against white people on OKP. I'm really not even referencing the article in any way. I'm referencing what OKP'ers wrote in response to the article.

Reply 163 is racist. And so are several of the other replies in the post about that article.

Cuz racism.