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LeroyBumpkin
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"Dead Cells (PC/XB1/PS4)"
Fri Aug-10-18 12:50 PM by LeroyBumpkin

  

          

I love Metroid-Vania games like this.

I've devoured almost all of the preview videos of this game on YouTube.
My concern...the perma-death aspect of the game.
There are no check points, so essentially when you die (which is a lot),
you go back to the beginning.
The comment section has been full of people complaining about it.

The offset (from what I've been hearing in the reviews) is that
there are multiple ways to play the game so you can go different routes.
Or, you need to go through it multiple times to obtain certain weapons, items, etc.

Thoughts?

Dead Cells Review (Gamespot)
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Dead Cells Is An Instant Classic
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it's very good. been playing for a few weeks
Aug 10th 2018
1
Definitely gonna cop.
Aug 11th 2018
2
      RE: Definitely gonna cop.
Aug 11th 2018
3
My GOTY so far
Aug 29th 2018
4
RE: Dead Cells (PC/XB1/PS4)
Sep 06th 2018
5
One of my fav videogame experiences in a minute
Sep 06th 2018
6
Just got this on PS4
Sep 25th 2018
7
Been meaning to reply back to this post
Jul 01st 2019
8
If you love the broadsword, you gotta beat the game at least once
Jul 01st 2019
9
I have questions & thoughts
Aug 05th 2019
10
RE: I have questions & thoughts
Aug 05th 2019
11
      RE: I have questions & thoughts
Aug 05th 2019
12
           RE: I have questions & thoughts
Aug 05th 2019
13
My new favorite build.
Sep 03rd 2019
14
I love the oil grenade
Sep 09th 2019
15
Finally beat 1 cell last night.
Nov 11th 2019
16
I'm still pluggin' away at 1-cell difficulty
Nov 25th 2019
17
I dig Wave Of Denial...
Dec 04th 2019
18
finally got to the hand of the king in boss stem cell 1
Dec 24th 2019
20
      I still haven't unlocked Death Orb
Dec 26th 2019
21
           RE: I still haven't unlocked Death Orb
Dec 26th 2019
22
                *mind explodes*
Dec 27th 2019
23
The Bad Seed DLC - Coming Q1 2020
Dec 05th 2019
19
im finally going to jump into this...
Jan 23rd 2020
24
Dude. Join us.
Jan 23rd 2020
25
      i'm having a lot of fun with it...
Jan 30th 2020
26
           After you unlock a weapon,
Jan 30th 2020
27
                finished the game for the first time last night...
Feb 03rd 2020
28
                     RE: finished the game for the first time last night...
Feb 03rd 2020
29
                          i need that run up the walls skill...
Feb 04th 2020
30
                          Wait is everyone using custom mode???
Feb 04th 2020
31
                               i've never played custom mode
Feb 04th 2020
32
                               I'm on normal.
Feb 05th 2020
33
                                    Im so hooked into this game right now...
Feb 07th 2020
34
                                         would you and nabs be willing to record and upload to twitch/yt?
Feb 07th 2020
35
                                              i wouldn't even know how to do that...
Feb 11th 2020
36
                                                   I GOT THE RAM RUNE!!!!!!
Feb 14th 2020
37
Been stuck in 2BC for a while
Mar 10th 2020
38
is there a big difficulty increase from 1BC to 2BC?
Mar 13th 2020
39
      Man...
Mar 13th 2020
40
      i'm struggling so much with 1BC right now in certain areas...
Mar 18th 2020
42
           RE: tubes
Mar 18th 2020
43
                WTF! how/when does that appear?
Mar 19th 2020
44
                     it's a blueprint received for beating BC1. 150 cells to unlock
Mar 19th 2020
45
                          nice! i gotta figure out the easiest path through BC1...
Mar 22nd 2020
46
      pretty sure enemies hit way harder
Mar 13th 2020
41
putting it down
Apr 01st 2020
47
you can always go for an hp build for hotk
Apr 02nd 2020
48
      hmm
Apr 02nd 2020
49
      agreed.
Apr 05th 2020
51
           Another tactics build suggestion
Apr 06th 2020
54
           thanx for the suggestions
Apr 07th 2020
56
Finally beat 2BC during the first week of social distancing.
Apr 04th 2020
50
If I use a potion, I start over.
Apr 05th 2020
52
Uhhh, this shit is kinda addictive.
Apr 06th 2020
53
welcome, haha
Apr 07th 2020
55
DLC biome problem
Apr 21st 2020
57
are you on console or steam??
Apr 22nd 2020
58
      I'm on PS4
Apr 22nd 2020
59
           the implementation of the DLC isn't great
Apr 24th 2020
60

bearfield
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1. "it's very good. been playing for a few weeks"
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the "flow state" of the game is not hard to achieve and it feels great when it's active. there is a lot of variety to the builds you can create and it seems like most weapons and powers are effective in their own right or in combination with other weapons, powers, and mutations. the controls are top notch (even though the double jump is trash and misleading) which facilitates getting into that flow state. the level design is fantastic. each area ("biome") feels discrete from the others, most of them having unique mechanics and layouts, i.e. the clock tower being a mostly vertical affair, as opposed to more horizontal levels like the ramparts and promenade of the condemned. the progression system is well done, letting the player organically unlock new weapons, powers, and biomes by simply getting better at the game. great stuff. people should play this game

  

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2. "Definitely gonna cop."
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The weapons system and level design hit me first.
I just didn't understand the mechanics of the blueprints
and how you progress through the game.

But yeah, the overall consensus is that the game is amazing.

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3. "RE: Definitely gonna cop."
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Sat Aug-11-18 02:25 PM by bearfield

  

          

>The weapons system and level design hit me first.
>I just didn't understand the mechanics of the blueprints
>and how you progress through the game.

it seems like you have to prove that you have a good grip on the movement and combat before the game reveals its depth. it took me longer than expected to grasp everything but once i did the blueprints and runes started flowing in and the game really started to open up. my impression is that in order to have a successful run you need to acquire the most powerful weapon/power/mutation combination as quickly as possible, then run through the biomes 1- or 2-shotting everything and picking up as many resources as you want/need at a rapid pace so you can unlock the timed doors for more resources

look for complementary attributes on weapons. i think one of the earliest blueprints you can get is the assassin's dagger, which inflicts critical hits when you're behind an enemy. you can pair the dagger with a freezing weapon like the ice bow or frost blast to freeze the enemy while you roll behind it for some crits. you can also re-roll the attributes on the dagger. it's possible to get an attribute on the dagger that does +175% damage to frozen enemies or +15% backstab damage, or +20% critical hit damage

there are also weapons and powers that can stack damaging status effects on enemies, put enemies into a state for constant critical attacks, or draw enemies into one concentrated area so you can drop big area of effect attacks on them. there are a lot of possibilities for builds and the game encourages experimentation and re-rolling attributes until a powerful combination is achieved. just keep making runs and you'll unlock more and more ways to facilitate getting that perfect combination that lets you cut through enemies and bosses

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4. "My GOTY so far"
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Dunno how many hours I put into it already but it's a lot.

  

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5. "RE: Dead Cells (PC/XB1/PS4)"
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A few weeks in on the Switch.

It's really fun but I burn out on it pretty quickly. I'm noticing that I need more narrative to drive me to continue games nowadays. But it's a good game to pick up, play for an hour or so and put away and feel like I made a lil progress.

  

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6. "One of my fav videogame experiences in a minute"
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I figured it was gonna be a 2D Soul’s game….punishingly hard until you ‘git gud’, but I was surprised at how breazy it was. When I get a bad ‘roll’ as far as gear is concerned I just make it work. And since death is never random or cheap I don’t get the same controller destroying urge. I also appreciate the controls; many of the 16 bit homages feel weird/floaty, this is perfect.

For instance In a session I was maybe 60% through the game, had godly weapon combinations and was pretty sure the run was good enough to get a crack at the last boss. Cleared everything out and decided to double back and knowingly hit a cursed chest i skilled on the way out...50% sure the next level was a boss level. So when the gate closed and the boss music came on, all I could do was laugh and try to avoid the inevitable one hit as long as I could, lol.

I get PI’s point above on the lack of story but in contrast to other games that try hard and fail miserably (Vanilla Destiny 2, im talking to you) ill take the in-jokes and breezy vibe to everything. It’s a nice little palate cleanser after playing something more ‘hardcore’.

  

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7. "Just got this on PS4"
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It's nice and painful. Just how I like my games.

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8. "Been meaning to reply back to this post"
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I love this game.

I didn't really know what I was doing at first, but now that I get how to use the upgrades and how to attack certain enemies, it's mad fun. The broad sword, while heavy, is extremely satisfying. I love mixing it up with the shooting traps. The one thing I wish I knew when I first started is that I didn't have to rush to those timed doors. I end up with a much more powerful character when I take my time in the 1st Prisoner level.

Again, love this game.

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9. "If you love the broadsword, you gotta beat the game at least once"
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The weapon they add to the item pool is relatively rare but it's always a super fun time when you get it.


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10. "I have questions & thoughts"
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1. I'm obsessed with this game. I love it.

2. Beat it on normal (I guess that would be 0BC). Went to 1BC and couldn't get out of the prisoner's quarters. That next level difficulty is no joke.

3. I prefer melee weapons, specifically the nutcracker. I pair that up w/ something frozen and can do pretty good.

4. Oh, and I'm kinda getting used to using the Hokuto Bow. Not so great for running through biomes, but fantastic for end bosses.

5. I DO NOT for the life of me, understand the + and ++ weapon tiers. I would love an explanation for this. The roman numeral numbers are pretty straight forward. But does a Blood Sword I+ beat out a Blood Sword III? Or a better question, is it better to upgrade your level 1 melee weapon with (++) over looking for a higher roman numeral? Again, I'm not exactly sure how the tiers work. I basically just look at the DPS and compare.

6. I hate that I unlocked the boots. Other weapons I hate: The Repeater's Crossbow, Cursed Sword, Balanced Blade and the Blood Sword.

7. HOW COME NOBODY TOLD ME the new suits didn't do anything?!

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11. "RE: I have questions & thoughts"
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>1. I'm obsessed with this game. I love it.
>
>2. Beat it on normal (I guess that would be 0BC). Went to 1BC
>and couldn't get out of the prisoner's quarters. That next
>level difficulty is no joke.

it's really just that one new enemy that throws me off. i find the triple daggers hard to evade. this is probably where shields help but i'd rather have a melee/ranged setup

>3. I prefer melee weapons, specifically the nutcracker. I
>pair that up w/ something frozen and can do pretty good.
>
>4. Oh, and I'm kinda getting used to using the Hokuto Bow. Not
>so great for running through biomes, but fantastic for end
>bosses.

it's fantastic with something that can crit reliably from a distance. the nutcracker is a little slow for me. i think my favorite setup is freezing cone + anything that swings quickly and crits on frozen enemies

>5. I DO NOT for the life of me, understand the + and ++ weapon
>tiers. I would love an explanation for this. The roman
>numeral numbers are pretty straight forward. But does a Blood
>Sword I+ beat out a Blood Sword III? Or a better question,
>is it better to upgrade your level 1 melee weapon with (++)
>over looking for a higher roman numeral? Again, I'm not
>exactly sure how the tiers work. I basically just look at the
>DPS and compare.

from https://deadcells.gamepedia.com/Gear

• + quality generates the item with 2 more gear levels than usual.
• ++ quality generates the item with 4 more gear levels than usual, and gives +1 to one scaling Stat .
• S quality generates the item with 6 more gear levels than usual, and gives either +2 to one scaling stat or +1 to two scaling stats (if the item's base form is two-color).

>6. I hate that I unlocked the boots. Other weapons I hate:
>The Repeater's Crossbow, Cursed Sword, Balanced Blade and the
>Blood Sword.

this happened to me in early access. when the 1.0 release hit i took the reset as opportunity to "re-roll" my weapon and power pool. the blood sword is pretty good with the right attribute rolls but otherwise it's not great

>7. HOW COME NOBODY TOLD ME the new suits didn't do anything?!

they provide variety for your eyes?

  

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12. "RE: I have questions & thoughts"
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>>3. I prefer melee weapons, specifically the nutcracker. I
>>pair that up w/ something frozen and can do pretty good.
>>
>>4. Oh, and I'm kinda getting used to using the Hokuto Bow.
>Not
>>so great for running through biomes, but fantastic for end
>>bosses.
>
>it's fantastic with something that can crit reliably from a
>distance. the nutcracker is a little slow for me. i think my
>favorite setup is freezing cone + anything that swings quickly
>and crits on frozen enemies

Yeah both the nutcracker, broadsword and the Symmetrical Lance are mad slow, but for some reason they're my favorites. I find pleasure in trying to find a way to immobilize an enemy, and then go in with the kill.


>from https://deadcells.gamepedia.com/Gear
>
>• + quality generates the item with 2 more gear levels than
>usual.
>• ++ quality generates the item with 4 more gear levels than
>usual, and gives +1 to one scaling Stat .
>• S quality generates the item with 6 more gear levels than
>usual, and gives either +2 to one scaling stat or +1 to two
>scaling stats (if the item's base form is two-color).

Thank you. I've been to the wiki page a lot.
So basically if I'm in the forge with a Weapon I" and pay money
to upgrade it with a (+), it's now equal to a Weapon III?


>>7. HOW COME NOBODY TOLD ME the new suits didn't do
>anything?!
>
>they provide variety for your eyes?


Joy.

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13. "RE: I have questions & thoughts"
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>Thank you. I've been to the wiki page a lot.
>So basically if I'm in the forge with a Weapon I" and pay
>money
>to upgrade it with a (+), it's now equal to a Weapon III?


i believe that's the case. the above Weapon I+ should be a +25% weapon. it might be about the ability to house additional attributes as well. i noticed that legendary weapons always had 3+ attributes that could be rerolled

again from the wiki:

Gear with high enough gear levels can have special effects which scale with gear level:
Weapons and skills that deal significant damage get a + 25% damage multiplier for every 2 gear levels above gear level 1, including the bonus gear levels added by "+", "++", "S", or "L" variants. A damage multiplier increases the base damage dealt by its item, before it scales up to its final value by Stats . It is always shown in the displayed damage output since it's always active - unlike situational damage multipliers like most damage-boosting Affixes .

>>>7. HOW COME NOBODY TOLD ME the new suits didn't do
>>anything?!
>>
>>they provide variety for your eyes?
>
>
>Joy.

this concept of cosmetics is commonplace in roguelikes and other games that are meant to be played over and over. you're constantly running the same levels with the same character so it's nice to have a slight visual break from the default costume. persona 5 has additional costumes. bayonetta does too, as does spelunky

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14. "My new favorite build."
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Tue Sep-03-19 11:01 AM by LeroyBumpkin

  

          

Oil Grenade
Ice Shards

I was building a tactic build last night
(I should have did a screen capture...next time).

I'm getting better at matching different weapons to take advantage of higher DPS.

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15. "I love the oil grenade"
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16. "Finally beat 1 cell last night."
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Ice Shards, Hokuto's Bow, Oil Grenade and the Double Crossb-o-matic.

One of these days I'm gonna master shield work.

Messed with 2 cell for a little, and it's no joke.

But yeah, I'm slowly getting there.
Can't even imagine what 3, 4 or 5 cell is.

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17. "I'm still pluggin' away at 1-cell difficulty"
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the oil grenade + ice shards combo sounds nice, and it still leaves room for the Wave of Denial, which I've slowly realized is hands-down one of the best weapons to have in your repertoire.

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18. "I dig Wave Of Denial..."
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....but never get it when I'm building tactics.
I've also never really used it at full power.
I'll have to start making an effort to use it again.

But yeah, Ice Shards and Oil Grenade are very powerful.
I actually think Motion Twin nerfed Ice Shards recently so it's not as strong, but it still gets the job done.

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20. "finally got to the hand of the king in boss stem cell 1"
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used this build: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1945212345

the build was great for everything but the final boss. definitely should have put more points into purple and not red. i was using a sinew slicer until i unlocked death orb after the castle. path was sewers -> corrupted prison -> ancient sewers -> graveyard -> forgotten sepulcher. i feel good about how to handle enemies after having run most of the boss cell 1 biomes. ranged seems like it's very effective but i want to try a shield + spear run with death orb and wave of denial

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21. "I still haven't unlocked Death Orb"
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The unlocking of weapons is still a crap shoot to me. I've looked on the Dead Cells wiki and reddit pages, and they all point to "___ weapon can be found ___", but I never find it. THEN I realized that if you're not unlocking things (cause I had been avoiding unlocking boots and shields), new weapon plans won't pop up. As soon as I started unlocking stuff, I'd get new plans all the time.

Anyway, I'm learning how to better pair weapons together. That will really help you in the later cell biomes. Now when I have a weapon that let's say causes bleeding, I try to pair the rest of my weapons to effect bleeding. I had a great run last week that was caused bleeding AND poison, and then had subsequent weapons that benefitted from both. HUGE difference. But of course I died on a curse run..ha ha.

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22. "RE: I still haven't unlocked Death Orb"
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>The unlocking of weapons is still a crap shoot to me. I've
>looked on the Dead Cells wiki and reddit pages, and they all
>point to "___ weapon can be found ___", but I never find it.
>THEN I realized that if you're not unlocking things (cause I
>had been avoiding unlocking boots and shields), new weapon
>plans won't pop up. As soon as I started unlocking stuff, I'd
>get new plans all the time.

the key to unlocking more blueprints is to buy the hunter's grenade in the first biome. it's in the area with the 3 doors that cost gold to open. the door holding the grenade costs 7500 gold. equip the grenade as a skill then throw it at an enemy who holds a blueprint that you don't have. they can be identified with a symbol over their head that kind of looks like the grenade. hit them with the grenade and an elite will spawn, along with another skill. pick up the dropped skill, get the elite to < 40% health, then use the new skill on them to extract the blueprint. i'm making runs now trying to collect every blueprint

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23. "*mind explodes*"
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Yo, soon as I get home I'm on it. Thank you..ha ha.

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19. "The Bad Seed DLC - Coming Q1 2020"
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TEASER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBtfG1R8_OY

https://steamcommunity.com/games/588650/announcements/detail/1710735679732079657
Two new levels, a boss and all the good stuff that comes with.

- Announcing a new DLC with two levels and a boss over here (please wishlist it).
- $4.99 paid DLC will help us continue building more Dead Cells and MT’s next game.
- AMA on Reddit right now over here.
- We’ve got two years of Dead Cells content we hope to build.
- MT are finding the outlines of their next prototype.
- HD wallpapers available here.

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24. "im finally going to jump into this..."
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...tried Sundered, Hollow Knight and Bloodstained but the enjoyment started to fizzle ...Dead Cells seems like the obvious next one to try out


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25. "Dude. Join us."
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1. Tons of weapon combinations keeps the game fresh (along w/ the constant updates).
2. I always...ALWAYS yell "fuck" when I die. I hate the game and love it in the same breath.

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26. "i'm having a lot of fun with it... "
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...not sure exactly what i'm supposed to do, but i think i'm trying to unlock the ice bow?? when you unlock something, do you get to keep it?




  

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27. "After you unlock a weapon,"
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it goes into the pool of weapons that appear in chests or that you can buy. It helps to explore different biomes so you can get different weapons blueprints. Also check the revelation bearfield brought up above on how to unlock weapons. I was originally just waiting for them to appear after beating certain enemies. There's also a more straight forward approach to unlocking them too.

What have been your favorites so far?

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28. "finished the game for the first time last night... "
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But i couldn't get the boomerang blueprints because of the spikes. I see you guys talking about favorites. Now that I've finished once, i just need to keep unlocking things i guess? Are there any new areas to go to?


>it goes into the pool of weapons that appear in chests or
>that you can buy. It helps to explore different biomes so you
>can get different weapons blueprints. Also check the
>revelation bearfield brought up above on how to unlock
>weapons.


nice, gotta try this out.


>What have been your favorites so far?

not even sure of the names... but the triple bow? the ice bow and that electric shock weapon that reaches out to kill the enemies are all dope.

  

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29. "RE: finished the game for the first time last night... "
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>But i couldn't get the boomerang blueprints because of the
>spikes.


you need to get a certain ability on an amulet to get it, or use the assault shield. there might be another way to do it

>Now that I've finished once, i just need to keep unlocking things i
>guess? Are there any new areas to go to?

some of the areas have multiple exits and most of those are only accessible after getting all the runes. i think you're supposed to have all the runes except one after you beat the hand of the king. just keep playing and exploring and you'll find new biomes and weapons. i do recommend boss cell level 1 to expedite the unlocking process

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30. "i need that run up the walls skill... "
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...keep running into spots i cant climb up to ...almost finished the game last night and died because i accidentally opened a cursed chest then got slightly scratched by a random enemy

  

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31. "Wait is everyone using custom mode???"
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...ive been just doing normal mode and leaving everything up to rng ..is there any reason not to use custom mode? do you get less cell drops or money?



  

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32. "i've never played custom mode"
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i don't think the mutation unlocks are affected by RNG. my recollection is that you get funneled into the room with a mutation, which happens somewhat naturally within the flow of the game. you might need to make use of the most recent mutation unlock to access the next one

which biomes have you been to? in order to unlock more stuff you need to play and explore. don't worry about the bonus doors. just take your time and pick each biome clean before advancing to the next one and you should be swimming in cells and unlocks

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33. "I'm on normal."
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And bearfield is right, your goal should be unlocking runes and weapons.

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34. "Im so hooked into this game right now..."
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...and yes, custom mode sucks, so boring


  

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35. "would you and nabs be willing to record and upload to twitch/yt?"
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i want to do one this weekend to provide demonstrable playing advice and to compare notes

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36. "i wouldn't even know how to do that..."
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...on another note ..I can't find the Ram Rune for my life ..i've spent the last 2 nights in the Ossuary looking everywhere ...it's destroying me lol


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37. "I GOT THE RAM RUNE!!!!!!"
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...finally!!! my heart was racing when i finally got to smash through the ground! this game makes me feel like a little kid again, haha

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38. "Been stuck in 2BC for a while"
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I can get to HOTK on a good run, but he beats me every time.

  

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39. "is there a big difficulty increase from 1BC to 2BC?"
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40. "Man..."
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On 0BC and 1BC, no matter the weapons I had, I could get to and beat HOTK.
I'm on 2BC now, and if I don't have a good build it's a wrap.

Getting the tubes at the start of the Prisoner's Quarters really helped.
I'm getting better and I'm learning better weapon combinations, but it ain't easy.

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42. "i'm struggling so much with 1BC right now in certain areas... "
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...anything that teleports really fucks me up because i never feel safe and i'm panicking lol

.BTW what "tubes" are you talking about at the start of the Prisoner's Quarters?

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43. "RE: tubes"
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https://youtu.be/rdCmDVwT6PE?t=00m26s

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44. "WTF! how/when does that appear?"
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45. "it's a blueprint received for beating BC1. 150 cells to unlock"
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46. "nice! i gotta figure out the easiest path through BC1..."
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...getting my ass kicked over and over ..i'll figure it out eventually

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41. "pretty sure enemies hit way harder"
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mostly the difficulty stems from enemy placement remixes, e.g. seeing enemies normally found in the castle in < BC1 hanging out in the ramparts in BC2

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47. "putting it down"
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I've been hitting my head up against the Boss-Cell-1 Hand of the King for way too long now. I've already maxed out two levels of the legendary forge and the third is locked, so I don't even have anything to spend cells on anymore. it's like the game is telling me, "You should've beaten this already."

no matter how strong of a build I'm workin' with, I almost always get totally steamrolled by HOTK. even when I don't, I merely survive a bit longer, but I don't do significantly more damage.

another frustrating factor is that sometimes single hits from bosses will eliminate nearly my entire health bar. and that's *without* weapons that have "100% damage taken" attributes. I just don't understand it. the game is super addictive, but it's time for something else for a while.

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48. "you can always go for an hp build for hotk"
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basically put points only into brutality and/or tactics for most of the run then while you're in the castle — or just before you reach the castle — grab a few survival scrolls so you get +70%, +60%, and +50% (not exact numbers) bonus to your 3-4k hp. you can really get a lot of hp just before hotk by doing the above and resetting your mutations and picking dead inside for another +50%. i've definitely walked into a hotk fight with ~11k hp and didn't have much trouble beating it even with underpowered weapons

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49. "hmm"
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those are some good tips. and I've never used the Dead Inside mutation even once (I usually pick Emergency Triage and Vengence). maybe I'll give it once more shot after all.

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51. "agreed."
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Definitely push your scrolls for one color. By the time I get to the High Peak Castle, I want to have at least 20 scrolls in one of the colors. When you push your scrolls in one color, and then collect (at least a majority) the same colors, your HP is stronger.

Here's a tactic build I'd suggest:

+ (insert whatever tactic melee or ranged weapon)
+ Hokuto's Bow
+ Sinew Slicer
+ Double Cross-bo-matic

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54. "Another tactics build suggestion"
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+ Ice Shards (critical w/ oil grenade)
+ Hokuto's Bow (this weapon IMO makes everything better)
+ Oil Grenade
+ Double Cross-bo-matic


+ Throwing Knife (one of my personal favorites)
+ Ice Shards
+ Oil Grenade
+ Double Cross-bo-matic

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56. "thanx for the suggestions"
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I've already started Hollow Knight for a taste of something else, but I can never stay away from this game for long (despite my efforts).

during my last playthrough, I concentrated my Brutality/Tactics upgrades more than before and switched to the Dead Inside mutation before the final battle. did better than I ever had before. victory is within my grasp...!

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50. "Finally beat 2BC during the first week of social distancing. "
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My job has been on hiatus since March 15th so I had some time to really get after it.

3BC with the tubes for starting equipment makes things *seem* easier, but the lack of health refills gets you later on.

  

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52. "If I use a potion, I start over."
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Cause I need all of them...ha ha.

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53. "Uhhh, this shit is kinda addictive."
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55. "welcome, haha"
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I've tried to step away, and yet...

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57. "DLC biome problem"
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so at some point, 'The Bad Seed' DLC was downloaded and that's currently the version I'm playing. BUT, when I try to enter the Dilapidated Arboretum from the first stage, it says it "requires The Bad Seed DLC." huh??

I've since been able to enter a couple of the other new biomes (the names escape me now). one was a little glitchy, but I could still play it. anyone else run into this issue?

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58. "are you on console or steam??"
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....i had no issues with PS4, but on my Mac/Steam i had to re-download/install the bad seed dlc a few times before it actually was seen as ready to play in the game


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59. "I'm on PS4"
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I tried restarting the console and starting a new game rather than continuing a save (per other posts on the issue I found on the net), but still no dice.

incidentally, I never actually paid for this DLC. it wasn't free right? I turned on my PS4 one day and it was just there, so I guess I can't really be too upset.


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60. "the implementation of the DLC isn't great"
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>I tried restarting the console and starting a new game rather
>than continuing a save (per other posts on the issue I found
>on the net), but still no dice.
>
>incidentally, I never actually paid for this DLC. it wasn't
>free right? I turned on my PS4 one day and it was just there,
>so I guess I can't really be too upset.

it's not free. it's a little intrusive, misleading, and can be legitimately detrimental to a run because you waste time going to an exit that you can't access. there should be an option to exclude that section of the biome for those that haven't purchased the DLC

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