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Solarus
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49. "Point taken"
In response to In response to 45


  

          

Hujambo

Realize that the frustration, aggravation and any ill feelings stem from centuries of non-Afrakan cultures, Christianity AND Islam condemning Afrakan traditions and customs. In fact, the standpoint alone of Christianity and Islam automatically is diametrically OPPOSED (and not just "different") to Afrakan traditions.

In my response to him I didn't "attack" at all. I tried to show him WHAT he was doing and how that is detrimental when trying to understand the Afrakan standpoint. In general, the Afrakan would have an easier time understanding Islam and/or Christianity before a Muslim or Christian could understand any Afrakan spiritual system. The reason for this phenomena is that Afrakan traditions are theoretically inclusive and accepting of diverse ideas whereas there is no room for differentiation within Islam and Christianity.

As for the post you made, I personally don't remember I attacking you. I remember wanting to stay away for that post because I realized that I was going to have to "fit" into the mold that you were designing. The fact is a student must BREAK out of the mold themselves if they want to learn anything new. The teacher can appropriate the language to the best of his/her ability but to "fit" the information into a mold is not truly "teaching" the student. No of course this is different for a child as a child a little information to rest on so the teacher must appropriate more for the child. But this isn't the case for adults. EX. A new student joined my martial arts school (kiungo cha mkono). He was a 6 year Wing chun practitioner before joining. Needless to say his natural disposition to stances and movement is defined by his Wing chun experience. Mfundishi uses Wing chun terms to explain kiungo cha mkono movements and stances but ultimately it is the new student's responsibility to BREAK himself out of that mold, that is if he wants to be adept and the system. Once you have mastered a thing then you can appropriate it to oneself.

PEace
Solarus

***Words of Wisdom***

"Every time you rise from your sleeping state, you have been reincarnated. Every time you recover from a bad experience, you have been reincarnated. Every time you have been given a new lease on life, you have been reincarnated. Every time you breath in and out, take in the fresh breath of life and feel the divine intelligence flowing in and around you, you have been reincarnated."- Mfundishi Bakari

On "love":

"I am in love everyday, whether I am with someone or not. Why? All love is based on a search for spirit. For me love is timeless, transcendent, peaceful, freeing, soul-based, unifying, and enhanced evolution. This is the basis of my activism."- Nettrice, the embodiment of Oshun

"Since we all make up the rules as we go along, love can mean many different things to many different people. But, for me love is a total commitment to understanding that is not limited to just people but is open to the totality of life. As long as we approach love from a fear based mentality and perceive it through veils of guardedness and anxiety, it will always be restricted by our fears."- Mfundishi Bakari

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God is IMMANENT [View all] , Solarus, Sat Jul-07-01 01:42 PM
 
Subject Author Message Date ID
Thought in Action
Jul 07th 2001
1
RE: Thought in Action
DonQuijote
Jul 07th 2001
4
All of the Above
Jul 08th 2001
5
      confusion
DonQuijote
Jul 08th 2001
6
           I'll be back
Jul 17th 2001
24
RE: Thought in Action
KemetShakur
Jul 18th 2001
30
probably the dopest post you've done......
Jul 07th 2001
2
oh yeah...check your inbox.
Jul 07th 2001
3
Gnostics
Jul 08th 2001
7
RE: Gnostics
IllipticallyDefined
Jul 08th 2001
8
Diversity in ONE
Jul 09th 2001
9
Diversity in ONE(Cont.)
Jul 09th 2001
10
      good work
utamaroho
Jul 09th 2001
11
Umm...
Jul 10th 2001
12
*shaking head*
utamaroho
Jul 10th 2001
13
Wasn't going to say anything
Jul 10th 2001
14
      i can see you right now...
utamaroho
Jul 10th 2001
16
No disrespect
Jul 10th 2001
15
      hahahahahaha
utamaroho
Jul 10th 2001
17
Afrakan in the New world
Jul 10th 2001
18
up
Jul 11th 2001
19
Purpose of Rituals
Jul 11th 2001
20
this puts me in mind
Jul 18th 2001
35
Why is this post down???
Jul 12th 2001
21
Hell NO
Jul 16th 2001
22
RE: God is IMMANENT
Jul 16th 2001
23
I need to print this out
Jul 17th 2001
25
I have some questions
Jul 17th 2001
26
Answers
Jul 18th 2001
28
damn...
utamaroho
Jul 18th 2001
29
if I may...
Jul 18th 2001
33
word
utamaroho
Jul 18th 2001
34
it just aggravates me
Jul 18th 2001
36
RE: it just aggravates me
Jul 18th 2001
40
      thank u
Jul 19th 2001
42
           your welcolm
Jul 19th 2001
55
                I get that...
Jul 20th 2001
78
RE: word
Jul 18th 2001
39
RE: if I may...
Jul 18th 2001
38
      this is true...
Jul 19th 2001
43
           RE: this is true...
Jul 19th 2001
56
                RE: this is true...
Jul 20th 2001
79
objective proofs?
Jul 18th 2001
37
      limited view
Jul 19th 2001
41
      why can't he SEE that...
Jul 19th 2001
44
           the problem is........
Jul 19th 2001
45
                the thing is...
utamaroho
Jul 19th 2001
47
                this statement right here:
Jul 19th 2001
51
                     RE: this statement right here:
utamaroho
Jul 19th 2001
52
                very good example:
Jul 19th 2001
48
               
                I don't claim to be "afrikan"
Jul 19th 2001
50
      Concept
Jul 19th 2001
53
      RE: Concept
Jul 19th 2001
60
           The Scriptures are Subjective
Jul 19th 2001
64
           RE: The Scriptures are objective
Jul 19th 2001
67
                there are so many points in this response
utamaroho
Jul 19th 2001
68
                     the light is still on you
Jul 19th 2001
70
                          imagine this
utamaroho
Jul 19th 2001
71
                               RE: imagine this
Jul 19th 2001
73
           reprint.
Jul 19th 2001
65
                RE: reprint.
Jul 19th 2001
69
      Objectivity
Jul 19th 2001
54
           RE: Objectivity
Jul 19th 2001
57
                GOD-FUCKING-DAMMIT!
utamaroho
Jul 19th 2001
58
                This reaction doesn't help.
Jul 19th 2001
59
                watch your language
Jul 19th 2001
61
                     you're right
utamaroho
Jul 19th 2001
62
                     Clarification
Jul 19th 2001
66
                          RE: Clarification
Jul 19th 2001
72
                RE: Objectivity
Jul 19th 2001
63
Not directed toward me but
Jul 18th 2001
31
      NO
Jul 18th 2001
32
Searching for Something That is Already Within
Jul 18th 2001
27
Thought for this HOLI-DAY
Jul 19th 2001
46
osoclasi
Jul 20th 2001
74
Correction
Jul 20th 2001
75
RE: osoclasi
Jul 20th 2001
76
Wonderful post.
Wise_7
Jul 20th 2001
77
^
Jul 26th 2001
80

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