4. "What's especially damning to me..." In response to Reply # 0
...is that the term "Negro Leagues," to a lifelong baseball fan, is an idiom, a stock phrase that you learn when you're learning about Satchel Paige and Josh Gibson et al. The words are inextricably linked, like they're all one word - "negroleagues" - so much so that if you played word association with me, "league" would invariably be my first response to "negro." Not even sure what my second choice would be.
Which means that someone like Kuiper would have had to deliberately divorce those words from each other in his mind, break that idiom apart. That's no slip; that's work. Damn.
8. "as if the two words don't sound anything alike" In response to Reply # 4
smh. they are both "forbidden" words. one is used pretty much ONLY in this context, both otherwise stay on the do-not-say list. so neither exactly rolls off the tongue for a guy who talks publicly for a living. i'll add out that "ih" is a much lower effort phoneme than "eeh" and "er" is easier to say than "oh". try it and see how much your mouth has to move for both.
imo, this is an absurd reason for someone to lose their job (if that happens). i have no idea how often he has said the word in his life prior to this and neither does anyone else in this thread. this is not someone screaming slurs on twitch, it's clearly a mistake. the idea that you can read his soul from this is stupid.
i know nothing about the guy. is there any prior evidence of him being racist?
>smh. they are both "forbidden" words. one is used pretty much >ONLY in this context, both otherwise stay on the do-not-say >list. so neither exactly rolls off the tongue for a guy who >talks publicly for a living. i'll add out that "ih" is a much >lower effort phoneme than "eeh" and "er" is easier to say than >"oh". try it and see how much your mouth has to move for both.
For someone that talks about professional baseball for a living he’s probably talked about the Negro Leagues multiple times.
With the ease that he said the other word it’s obvious that it’s not new to his vocabulary either.
>imo, this is an absurd reason for someone to lose their job >(if that happens). i have no idea how often he has said the >word in his life prior to this and neither does anyone else in >this thread. this is not someone screaming slurs on twitch, >it's clearly a mistake. the idea that you can read his soul >from this is stupid. > >i know nothing about the guy. is there any prior evidence of >him being racist?
He should definitely lose his job. The Oakland A’s are a wrap anyway I doubt if that dude was going to Vegas.
10. "agreed on this part" In response to Reply # 8 Sun May-07-23 10:15 AM by 3xKrazy
> the idea that you can read his soul >from this is stupid.
Making sweeping generalizations based on intonation is silly. All we know is this one incident. But IMO the incident was so completely offensive and inexplicable that it warrants firing.
If the word just came out wrong then why wouldn't he immediately have corrected himself and apologized?
Was he drunk or impaired in some way?
Best case (and most unlikely) scenario is that he's just wildly incompetent in which case having him as the voice of a MLB team and tv station in a live televised broadcast poses an enormous risk. Not like there aren't hundreds of other capable up and coming announcers out there who would jump at the chance for that gig. And who could figure out a way to make it through a telecast without using the N word. Next.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Sun May-07-23 07:14 PM
13. "read his soul? He fucked up ON THE JOB" In response to Reply # 10
He needs to be fired
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Mon May-08-23 10:35 AM
22. "I hate when people try to say they don’t know whats in his heart" In response to Reply # 18
well I know what came out of his mouth..
lets stick with what we heard and stop acting like we need xray machines to get to the bottom of this.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
everytime someone gets outed in public for using a racial slur while drunk, or someone has a slip of the tongue on air. I think to myself I can count on no hands how many times I've accidentally or intentionally used these words. It's never slipped out when im angry or drunk. I've been both so many fucking times. It doesn't happen because I don't use it in my private or public life. But I do remember letting a shit slip out in front of my mom when I was in 4th grade, because I was using shit at school all the time.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Mon May-08-23 10:33 AM
21. "prolly said that shit the whole time on their way to and from that museu..." In response to Reply # 20
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
24. "Looking at the 2 before the video started, I expected the" In response to Reply # 20
Partner to be the one to say it.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Tue May-09-23 09:45 AM
26. "yeah.. he had that Boston look" In response to Reply # 24
fucking racist Leprechaun looking ass..
was shocked when it was the other guy.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Tue May-09-23 09:44 AM
25. "suspended indefinitely " In response to Reply # 0
which means he is fired or he has to hit up rehab
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79621 posts
Tue May-09-23 11:43 AM
30. "means he will probably collect checks while they review" In response to Reply # 28
and try to wait for the dust to settle
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
41. "I honestly doubt that producers ever noticed." In response to Reply # 31
Knowing how live TV works and how much of a circus the control room can be, where everything is about hitting marks and staying on schedule, it likely went over everyone's head. That's also likely why Braden didn't react at all while standing next to him: he had someone chattering in his earpiece the entire time. Kuiper could have been talking about engaging in a cocaine-fueled orgy the previous evening (which would have been preferable to what he actually said), and as long as he said in a measured tone with a regular cadence and didn't go over-time, nobody there would have reacted.
The producers probably found out about it when everyone else did: When someone posted a clip on Twitter.
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