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allStah
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"NBA Talk: November "


          

Damn Klay might be trash. Wiggins is the Dubs best player right now.

18/6, 47 FG pct, 40 pct 3pt pct, 1 block, 1 steal per game.

Russ is cooking…Sixth man of the year!


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3 straight games of garbage losses
Nov 12th 2022
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RE: NBA Talk: November
Nov 12th 2022
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^^shooting socks through wire hanger hoops
Nov 12th 2022
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      Wiggins as much as I hate to say it...
Nov 12th 2022
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      Quick stat check!
Nov 12th 2022
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      Shut the fuck up
Nov 13th 2022
11
      he's out of his element.
Nov 13th 2022
13
      You are way over the top.
Nov 13th 2022
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           he made a post at 2 AM and you replied to it an hour later
Nov 13th 2022
22
           My bad, you’re right….but your post was stupid
Nov 13th 2022
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                And there it is.
Nov 14th 2022
42
      YOU ARE A KYRIE STAN!!!
Nov 13th 2022
12
what's wrong w/ Klay?
Nov 12th 2022
6
Apparently Klay didn't play at all in the off season
Nov 12th 2022
7
      i hadn't heard that. makes some sense if that's the case.
Nov 12th 2022
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           Yeah, he didn't play due to how he hurt himself a couple of years ago
Nov 12th 2022
10
                he was unfocused and fucking around this offseason.
Nov 13th 2022
25
This Rockets team is annoying and sorry
Nov 12th 2022
9
yep, well-demonstrated in this tweet re: end of pels game..
Nov 14th 2022
38
Cleveland vs. Utah - who is better after the Donovan move?
Nov 13th 2022
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Well, both, obviously... but honestly, might be Utah.
Nov 13th 2022
15
You realize Utah is still in Utah, right?
Nov 13th 2022
23
Mike Conley JR ...still steady as a rock, being productive in year 15
Nov 14th 2022
46
It’s way too early to tell, but the upside goes to Utah.
Nov 13th 2022
18
y'all smoking crack picking Utah
Nov 14th 2022
44
Shai Gorgeous cooked the Knicks up for Sunday dinner
Nov 13th 2022
17
I went to the Nets / Knicks game, and I watched Ben Simmons all game
Nov 13th 2022
19
great insight.man…
Nov 13th 2022
20
I don’t believe “knee soreness” bs Nets have been saying w his rec...
Nov 14th 2022
50
The mental component to recovering from injury is real.
Nov 13th 2022
21
Total co-sign , idk if he will ever get right again
Nov 14th 2022
51
imagine going out there risking further injury to your back for kyrie.
Nov 13th 2022
27
      Daryl Morey must laugh every time the Nets play...nm
Nov 14th 2022
54
Damn Embid put up a Wilt!
Nov 13th 2022
26
Random observation
Nov 13th 2022
28
Sir, this is an NBA thread
Nov 13th 2022
29
      Yeah, I was just looking at the Week 10 post and forgot I left
Nov 13th 2022
30
half the warriors bench is unplayable fam.
Nov 14th 2022
31
damn y'all trading Klay?
Nov 14th 2022
37
Friday night had me so mad fam
Nov 14th 2022
43
Around 15 games into the season and we’re load managing already??
Nov 14th 2022
32
Took the kids to Wiz/Grizzlies last night….no Ja
Nov 14th 2022
33
That’s a damn shame. Sorry your kids missed out.
Nov 14th 2022
35
That sucks man , I hate this new load management bullshit
Nov 14th 2022
36
At least they got to see Porzingis cook!
Nov 14th 2022
41
Fam I had to read that header twice😂
Nov 15th 2022
59
      LMAO!!! Yo, chill!!!!
Nov 15th 2022
65
Or if teams load manage, they should advice the league ahead of time
Nov 15th 2022
66
fantasy bball is a joke with this bullshit
Nov 14th 2022
53
I love that Tatum is out there giving 100 every single game
Nov 15th 2022
63
Joel’s performance last night up there with the best I’ve ever seen
Nov 14th 2022
34
yeah that stat line is just crazy.
Nov 14th 2022
39
Hakeem shit
Nov 14th 2022
40
26 of the team 27 in the 4th
Nov 14th 2022
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      he also had 5 blocks in the 4th
Nov 23rd 2022
198
The losing streak hits 4, but some caveats:
Nov 14th 2022
45
The wing thing is a real concern going forward.
Nov 14th 2022
48
AD put up 37 and 18 and it was the 3rd best game of the night, lol
Nov 14th 2022
49
I feel like his great performances are a serious catch 22
Nov 14th 2022
56
Shai: EVERYONE GETTING COOKED
Nov 14th 2022
52
Deep fried with Crisco
Nov 14th 2022
55
jordan poole plays so much better when he starts.
Nov 14th 2022
57
so Klay was rested tonight I assume...
Nov 15th 2022
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      hmmm.
Nov 15th 2022
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      I mean, the on/off numbers this year still *hugely* favor Klay.
Nov 15th 2022
61
           oh, the "hmmm" was legitimate confusion on my part, LOL.
Nov 15th 2022
64
                He’s washed
Nov 16th 2022
73
Shai Butter!
Nov 15th 2022
62
if the Pelicans can just get Zion right…
Nov 15th 2022
67
They need to read the tea leaves and trade him.
Nov 15th 2022
68
      fantasy GMs lol
Nov 15th 2022
70
           Ideas lulz omg can you believe it
Nov 17th 2022
123
this sacramento team is a fun watch.
Nov 15th 2022
69
KD is about to demand another trade lol
Nov 15th 2022
71
Is it too early to call Wiseman a bust?
Nov 16th 2022
72
He looked promising his rookie year
Nov 16th 2022
74
its getting there.
Nov 16th 2022
77
I think he is a bust. Low basketball IQ.
Nov 16th 2022
79
RE: Is it too early to call Wiseman a bust?
Nov 16th 2022
80
He plays dumb and lazy. It’s up for him rn
Nov 16th 2022
81
It's too early for that... but not too early to trade him.
Nov 16th 2022
83
      how much is Draymond going to cost?
Nov 16th 2022
86
The lack of respect by today’s players towards former superstars ..
Nov 16th 2022
75
who are you referencing specifically?
Nov 16th 2022
76
Most of the Twitter finger generation.
Nov 16th 2022
78
      For what soft, paper thin actions?
Nov 16th 2022
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RE: The lack of respect by today’s players towards former superstars ....
Nov 16th 2022
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... matches the disrespect former superstars show today's players?
Nov 16th 2022
84
It’s part of the game.
Nov 16th 2022
88
      Right, no respect for elders, lack of home training is what it's really ...
Nov 16th 2022
99
      I hear even death isn't off the table.
Nov 18th 2022
146
Ja just disrespectful in general this is on brand for him
Nov 16th 2022
85
fam i had to check this kd quote to make sure it was real.
Nov 16th 2022
89
damn lol
Nov 16th 2022
90
its funny cuz the whole article is basically about leadership.
Nov 16th 2022
91
The lack of respect of today's players for today's players...
Nov 16th 2022
92
bwahaahahaha!
Nov 16th 2022
93
i don't see the issue. i think Bomani had the right read on this.
Nov 16th 2022
94
Bron dominated the East for a decade with dogshit teammates
Nov 16th 2022
95
while i will grant you your point...
Nov 16th 2022
97
Read the whole quote, because that was my takeaway
Nov 17th 2022
118
Bomani is a sportswriter, you don’t call out teammates like that…
Nov 16th 2022
96
wtf. him and K yire is fucking dumb and dumber
Nov 17th 2022
113
They're real and they're spectacular. (c)
Nov 17th 2022
115
Quotes like this reflect why KD had so much success in Golden State
Nov 18th 2022
141
KD can't drive the bus but he can throw his teammates under it.
Nov 19th 2022
147
Going on 8 games
Nov 16th 2022
98
nobody is walking out for Kyrie after he sat out almost all of last...
Nov 16th 2022
100
      lol
Nov 17th 2022
114
what if joe mazzulla is a better coach than ime udoka?
Nov 16th 2022
101
He isn’t. He is just using Udoka’s system and philosophy.
Nov 16th 2022
104
      What if he's using Udoka's system & philosophy better than Udoka did?
Nov 18th 2022
145
that booker/klay matchup used to be competitive at one point.
Nov 16th 2022
102
damn, Steph gotta score 30 in the half just to keep em in the game.
Nov 16th 2022
103
klay cold af still chucking away perfectly good possessions.
Nov 16th 2022
105
poole aint helping his case by going completely missing.
Nov 16th 2022
106
jamychal green is ass.
Nov 17th 2022
107
Draymond Green out there doing nothing!
Nov 17th 2022
108
Everyone but Steph looks HORRIBLE.
Nov 17th 2022
109
kerr needs to *try* starting poole and benching klay.
Nov 17th 2022
110
Klay was ASS, but Poole was worse. 0 made baskets????
Nov 17th 2022
111
poole is a lot better when he starts.
Nov 17th 2022
129
is it fair yet to wonder if the vibe is fucked up?
Nov 17th 2022
117
      Nah they just suck from a personnel standpoint
Nov 17th 2022
119
      Kuminga and Moody (and Wiseman FOR SURE) ain't it.
Nov 17th 2022
120
      RE: Kuminga and Moody (and Wiseman FOR SURE) ain't it.
Nov 17th 2022
122
      i kinda agree.
Nov 17th 2022
124
           RE: i kinda agree.
Nov 17th 2022
127
      Their ages are 20, 20, and 21.
Nov 17th 2022
126
      I think they are definitely missing some role players from last year...
Nov 17th 2022
121
      I agree. I ain't on the inside so i don't know for sure.
Nov 17th 2022
125
I probably watched 60+ Thunder games, last season...
Nov 17th 2022
112
He refused to let them lose last night
Nov 17th 2022
116
is it just me or in all arenas since COVID there seems to be a concerted...
Nov 17th 2022
128
Ben Simmons looked like Ben Simmons last night!
Nov 18th 2022
130
Thought he turned the corner vs SAC
Nov 18th 2022
131
exactly, his game is predicated on aggressiveness...agressiveness comes
Nov 18th 2022
132
seriously. peak Ben is lightskin Donkeylips, he don't need to be more
Nov 18th 2022
134
      peak Ben is better than Draymond on both ends
Nov 18th 2022
138
           Bro, you talking about peak Ben vs. Draymomd TODAY..
Nov 18th 2022
140
           Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no.
Nov 18th 2022
142
           Surely you mean “what Ben could become with time.”
Nov 19th 2022
157
Royce O'Neal fucked and got a triple-double, Watanabe chipped in...
Nov 18th 2022
133
      ^^^sees it^^^
Nov 18th 2022
135
           RE: ^^^sees it^^^
Nov 18th 2022
136
                true. that guy could actually benefit from "slowing the game down"...
Nov 18th 2022
137
                     before now I think he was most known for being on an Ant Man poster lol
Nov 18th 2022
139
jamychal green is a bum.
Nov 18th 2022
143
yeah hes been super terrible.
Nov 19th 2022
148
really like this Wiz team / Heat should consider trading for KD
Nov 18th 2022
144
Do the Heat have the assets to get KD?
Nov 19th 2022
149
If only AD could be this guy every night or at least most nights
Nov 19th 2022
150
If only they played this pistons team every night
Nov 19th 2022
155
AR15 rocked the baby lol…
Nov 19th 2022
151
Montrezz like FOH dude, get your ass off of our court
Nov 19th 2022
152
I don’t blame him you don’t do that shit in my building lol…
Nov 19th 2022
153
Except it’s not Trez’ building
Nov 19th 2022
154
      He’s acting like Giannis is wiping his feet on the 76ers logo
Nov 19th 2022
156
      exactly
Nov 19th 2022
159
      its his team's building, Im a Giannis fan but that shit was out of order...
Nov 19th 2022
161
           FOH!
Nov 19th 2022
162
           Kobe did that shit.
Nov 19th 2022
163
           Lmao so that was why trez was taking jumpers?
Nov 19th 2022
166
           Inly if you’re a goddamned child lmao
Nov 20th 2022
175
This whole thing is absurd
Nov 19th 2022
158
Trez is so annoying. Like dude, you aren’t Embiid. Stop it.
Nov 19th 2022
160
      doing all that just to get traded mid season.
Nov 19th 2022
164
           Again.
Nov 19th 2022
165
           Lol
Nov 19th 2022
167
Sure looks like the kyrie syspension worked
Nov 19th 2022
168
i need to know who re-animated the corpse of Ben Simmons.
Nov 20th 2022
169
L
Nov 20th 2022
170
      huh?
Nov 20th 2022
172
           he had to have read your comment as a diss to Ben...
Nov 21st 2022
179
                He knows what’s up..
Nov 21st 2022
181
                     i literally don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Nov 21st 2022
182
                          Nah you were hating….on Kyrie too
Nov 21st 2022
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                               LOL.
Nov 21st 2022
186
                                    This caveman thinks Kyrie is a martyr 😂
Nov 22nd 2022
195
klay let his nuts hang tonight. 10/13 from 3. 41 pts.
Nov 20th 2022
171
it was the Rockets
Nov 20th 2022
173
Stat check!
Nov 20th 2022
174
      the poole excuses i see make no sense to me.
Nov 21st 2022
178
AD 30&18
Nov 21st 2022
176
Man, Ben Simmons at the 5 can wreck shit!
Nov 21st 2022
177
Bum ass Lavine got benched down the stretch!
Nov 21st 2022
180
Told you Lonzo/Caruso were important.
Nov 21st 2022
183
      I never really disagreed with that….because our interior defense is/wa...
Nov 21st 2022
184
           I mean, you DID…
Nov 21st 2022
187
                No. It is, when the objective was to be a competitive
Nov 21st 2022
188
                     An MVP conversation less than 25% into the season is meaningless lol
Nov 21st 2022
189
                          Documented.
Nov 21st 2022
190
                               Did you document you being loud and wrong of the Bulls defense?
Nov 21st 2022
191
                                    No one denied their defensive contributions…
Nov 21st 2022
192
                                         Well, for one - here’s the receipt.
Nov 21st 2022
193
                                              I’m not sure what you’re trying to claim.
Nov 21st 2022
194
                                                   You were not, in fact, straight. Anyway, I'm done with this. Bye.
Nov 22nd 2022
196
                                                        I’m glad that you’re done with it.
Nov 22nd 2022
197
Luka is an overrated scorer. He doesn’t make anyone better.
Nov 23rd 2022
199
hes a volume scorer. prolly similar fg and 3p percentages as kobe.
Nov 23rd 2022
201
Go easy, Shai...
Nov 23rd 2022
200
Pushed off with the shoulder….and the momentum sent dude over.
Nov 24th 2022
202
      his shoulder never touched him...
Nov 24th 2022
203
jalen brunson might be underpaid.
Nov 25th 2022
204
best warriors win against good competition.
Nov 26th 2022
205

Dr Claw
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1. "3 straight games of garbage losses"
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none of them blowouts, but this is the most garbage version of the Warriors yet, with the worst bench, and it still came down to the Piss Patrol and Donkeylips.

I hate that team with the heat of 1000 suns. Klay bricking all night until the end. Refs calling moving screens until the end. Klay was in the air on that "screen".

Cavs were running bullshit offense at the end again. Why is Evan Mobley in the corner, why is Jarrett Allen catching the ball at the 3 point line.

No points off the bench.

Fuck Anthony Lamb too. Just like Lyles in SAC, motherfucker was making all the 3s.

And Mitchell looks like he's hurt? Sit them for Minnesota. Dean Wade needs to heal up, Okoro is on Bushes Watch.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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DJR
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2. "RE: NBA Talk: November "
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>Damn Klay might be trash. Wiggins is the Dubs best player
>right now.
>
>18/6, 47 FG pct, 40 pct 3pt pct, 1 block, 1 steal per game.
>

Steph is averaging 33, 7, and 7 on 51 FG, 43 3pt, 1.1 steal per game.

And why did I reply to your trolling ass contrarian BS…..

  

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allStah
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3. "^^shooting socks through wire hanger hoops"
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Sat Nov-12-22 02:26 AM by allStah

          

Wiggins is doing everything!

Both ends of the court.


Smh

You telling on yourself

Curry ain’t guarding the other team’s best player and still averaging around 20
a game

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Dr Claw
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4. "Wiggins as much as I hate to say it..."
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is why the Warriors get away with what they do.
Without him they're getting cooked worse. He is their new Iggy.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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5. "Quick stat check!"
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+/-:
Steph Curry: 12.0
Andrew Wiggins: 1.4

You also look at the On/Off numbers for the Warriors, and while the Warriors are absolutely worse without Wiggins, they're notably worse than that without Steph. They're 19.4 points per 100 possessions better than their opponent with Wiggins on the floor... and they're 28.2 points per 100 possessions better with Curry on the floor.

This is because you can sort through the Warriors' used lineups on NBA.com and look at how the Warriors perform when Wiggins is on but Curry is not, and how they perform when Curry is on and Wiggins is not. The lineups are better with Curry-no-Wiggins than vice versa.

Maybe that's because Curry leads the Warriors presently in points per game (nearing double the second leading scorer, on far more efficient shooting), assists per game, and is even tied for leading in rebounds per game (he and Looney both average 6.8 RPG).

There's no argument to be made that Curry is a worse player than Wiggins. Wiggins is having a good season, and Curry is having an All-NBA level season.

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11. "Shut the fuck up"
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Tired of your stupid ass shit.

  

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13. "he's out of his element."
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<----- Long Live The King

  

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16. "You are way over the top."
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Sun Nov-13-22 02:43 PM by allStah

          

I gave an opinion.

If you don’t know how to socialize properly and be humane , you go elsewhere.

Matter of fact, we didn’t need to interact, because I don’t pay attention to your posts.

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22. "he made a post at 2 AM and you replied to it an hour later"
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>Matter of fact, we didn’t need to interact, because I
>don’t pay attention to your posts.

you realize everyone can see the entire thread and all of your posts, right?


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24. "My bad, you’re right….but your post was stupid "
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Kinda telling that you replied to mine but nobody else’s. Perhaps I gave you the reply you were seeking?

I could’ve said it nicer though, so I apologize.

  

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42. "And there it is. "
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>I gave you the reply you were seeking

  

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12. "YOU ARE A KYRIE STAN!!!"
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https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2765500&mesg_id=2765500&listing_type=search#2765581


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6. "what's wrong w/ Klay?"
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like, have his injuries made him unable to shoot?

seems like that's not possible but i dunno.

does he need a shot doctor/shooting consultant/whatever?

just never seen him missing this much. even last year, when you think he'd be worse since he was closer to injury, he wasn't this bad.

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7. "Apparently Klay didn't play at all in the off season"
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Maybe he's playing himself back into shape? I dunno. It is alarming. Hopefully, he'll have things tuned by Christmas.

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8. "i hadn't heard that. makes some sense if that's the case."
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10. "Yeah, he didn't play due to how he hurt himself a couple of years ago"
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I can't say it makes a lot of sense, but he knows his body better than anyone.

But one of the reasons the Dubs were thought to run away with the West is because Klay was projected to get healthier and of course play better than he did last year. Maybe this team is like the '21 team that started out poorly but got better as the season progressed and made the play-in. But they're not going to go deep in the playoffs with this version of Klay.

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25. "he was unfocused and fucking around this offseason."
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running through instagram models.

that trauma shit he came up with was some bullshit (and you could tell kerr knew it but didnt wanna make a big issue out of it).

klays misses are mostly coming up short. which means his legs arent there and hes fatigued early in games.

so not only could you not do drilling/training because of being 'fearful of an injury'...you couldnt even do basic cardio in the offseason?

sketchy imo.

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9. "This Rockets team is annoying and sorry"
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38. "yep, well-demonstrated in this tweet re: end of pels game.."
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https://twitter.com/WillGuillory/status/1591822810246176768?s=20&t=dHHOkhIDwo-2W5Pv9FVm2A

(also: ¡dale boricua! love that kid..)

  

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14. "Cleveland vs. Utah - who is better after the Donovan move?"
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15. "Well, both, obviously... but honestly, might be Utah."
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Cleveland just has so much money tied up right now between Mitchell, the Allen deal, and the Garland extension. (Not to mention the necessary Mobley extension coming next year.) So you have to feel good about these four players being The Guys that will win you a title. Because Love and Levert will be gone next year, and they'll almost certainly have to start filling gaps with MLE deals and vet minimum dudes once Mobley's extension comes into play.

So they have, like, a 3-4 year window where they need to win a title. And with Garland and Mobley still so young, and with two bigs, two small guards, and no wings worth calling home about, I think there are some questions as to whether the window lines up with the opportunity. If that makes sense. They'll be really fucking good, wouldn't be surprised by ECF or what have you... you just have to believe they'll be better than Boston and Milwaukee in the next 3-4 years. And I'm not necessarily convinced!

Utah, meanwhile, is proving that they have a fantastic coach, and they have *very* little money tied up long term (Lauri and Sexton are the only guys on the books after next year). They could absolutely make a big splash in the FA market to lure away a star or two and say "hey, look what we did when we had *nobody* of note on the roster." While I still suspect that there's a world in which *not* tanking this year will prove to be a big mistake... the complete salary freedom and the impression they're making on the league this year leads me to believe good things could be coming.

Not to mention, Utah has Cleveland's draft picks until, like, 2029. It just takes one bad year from Cleveland, one year of Evan Mobley injury, for Utah to potentially pick up a *major* asset as a result of this deal.

I don't think Utah will sustain this level of winning this year-- imagine they'll be in play-in contention though, which is a *massive* win given the roster-- but there's a lot of long-term upside in what Utah's got going right now, whereas Cleveland is absolutely in Win Now mode. If Cleveland wins a title, then they did the right thing. If they don't... maybe it was still the right thing, but it'll come at a pretty substantial price.

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23. "You realize Utah is still in Utah, right?"
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>could absolutely make a big splash in the FA market to lure
>away a star or two and say "hey, look what we did when we had
>*nobody* of note on the roster." While I still suspect that

"You go live in Utah. I don't want to live in Utah." (c) D.Harper


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46. "Mike Conley JR ...still steady as a rock, being productive in year 15"
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>Cleveland just has so much money tied up right now between
>Mitchell, the Allen deal, and the Garland extension. (Not to
>mention the necessary Mobley extension coming next year.) So
>you have to feel good about these four players being The Guys
>that will win you a title. Because Love and Levert will be
>gone next year, and they'll almost certainly have to start
>filling gaps with MLE deals and vet minimum dudes once
>Mobley's extension comes into play.
>
>So they have, like, a 3-4 year window where they need to win a
>title. And with Garland and Mobley still so young, and with
>two bigs, two small guards, and no wings worth calling home
>about, I think there are some questions as to whether the
>window lines up with the opportunity. If that makes sense.
>They'll be really fucking good, wouldn't be surprised by ECF
>or what have you... you just have to believe they'll be better
>than Boston and Milwaukee in the next 3-4 years. And I'm not
>necessarily convinced!
>
>Utah, meanwhile, is proving that they have a fantastic coach,
>and they have *very* little money tied up long term (Lauri and
>Sexton are the only guys on the books after next year). They
>could absolutely make a big splash in the FA market to lure
>away a star or two and say "hey, look what we did when we had
>*nobody* of note on the roster." While I still suspect that
>there's a world in which *not* tanking this year will prove to
>be a big mistake... the complete salary freedom and the
>impression they're making on the league this year leads me to
>believe good things could be coming.
>
>Not to mention, Utah has Cleveland's draft picks until, like,
>2029. It just takes one bad year from Cleveland, one year of
>Evan Mobley injury, for Utah to potentially pick up a *major*
>asset as a result of this deal.
>
>I don't think Utah will sustain this level of winning this
>year-- imagine they'll be in play-in contention though, which
>is a *massive* win given the roster-- but there's a lot of
>long-term upside in what Utah's got going right now, whereas
>Cleveland is absolutely in Win Now mode. If Cleveland wins a
>title, then they did the right thing. If they don't... maybe
>it was still the right thing, but it'll come at a pretty
>substantial price.

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18. "It’s way too early to tell, but the upside goes to Utah."
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The production and performances they are getting from their 4th and third tier
players are unbelievable.

Utah is getting way more bang for their buck. They are saving money and making
money at the same time

Talk about ROI….Danny Ainge is looking like a genius with this squad.

Now the only question is will he keep or move Conley, because the teams that need
a PG are eyeing him…..

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44. "y'all smoking crack picking Utah"
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Cleveland will both have a better record including playoffs at season's end.

Utah just didn't fall off completely. they did the right thing getting Booty Gobert outta there, and blow up the team when it looked like Donovan was on the outs. The guys they got back from Cleveland (especially Lauri) are great for them.

But they are missing All-Star power now, and the loss of a talent of Donovan's tier is gonna really make itself known down the stretch.

Plus we don't know what Ainge is gonna do.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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17. "Shai Gorgeous cooked the Knicks up for Sunday dinner"
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...ask my top 5, I'll say me 5 times, like Dylan - Roc Marci

  

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19. "I went to the Nets / Knicks game, and I watched Ben Simmons all game "
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https://imgur.com/a/crllThk
(when I wasnt watching KD cook, btw this team plays better WITHOUT Kyrie)


when he was on the court and on the bench and fellas....I think his back injury is ALOT worse than he and the Nets are letting on. Dude constantly has a heating pack on his back and is constantly on the bike or getting stretched

every time he sat down it was super gingerly and every time he got up it was like watching my grandpa get out of his chair.

the fear of reaggravating it is causing him to play like such a timid newborn baby fawn

how else do you explain going from this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FHKMeGm_54

to his current state

Im done criticizing him bc I think hes going to be out of the league after this contract..I have no idea how he passed any physicals.




>Damn Klay might be trash. Wiggins is the Dubs best player
>right now.
>
>18/6, 47 FG pct, 40 pct 3pt pct, 1 block, 1 steal per game.
>
>Russ is cooking…Sixth man of the year!
>
>
>

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20. "great insight.man…"
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I was watching that game on tv and while I clearly didn’t see all that you saw…the analyst (I think JVG) was saying how even despite the shooting concerns, Ben was always a supreme athlete who could get to the rim almost at will. The other night, he looked like he’d rather be ANYWHERE else, than on an NBA court.

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50. "I don’t believe “knee soreness” bs Nets have been saying w his rec..."
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It’s sad . He just stands in one place or sets a pick occasionally .



>I was watching that game on tv and while I clearly didn’t
>see all that you saw…the analyst (I think JVG) was saying
>how even despite the shooting concerns, Ben was always a
>supreme athlete who could get to the rim almost at will. The
>other night, he looked like he’d rather be ANYWHERE else,
>than on an NBA court.

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21. "The mental component to recovering from injury is real."
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Because every time you feel a normal ache or pain in the area where you were hurt, your brain immediately goes "OH FUCK DID I DO SOMETHING AGAIN TO THIS, OH NO OH NO, I JUST STARTED FEELING BETTER, FUCK THIS"

So whether his back is hurting real bad or if it's hurting in a relatively normal way for athletes, I've no doubt that it's hard to not be ginger with it. Especially when it's a back, man. Backs are fucking frightening.

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51. "Total co-sign , idk if he will ever get right again "
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>Because every time you feel a normal ache or pain in the area
>where you were hurt, your brain immediately goes "OH FUCK DID
>I DO SOMETHING AGAIN TO THIS, OH NO OH NO, I JUST STARTED
>FEELING BETTER, FUCK THIS"
>
>So whether his back is hurting real bad or if it's hurting in
>a relatively normal way for athletes, I've no doubt that it's
>hard to not be ginger with it. Especially when it's a back,
>man. Backs are fucking frightening.

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27. "imagine going out there risking further injury to your back for kyrie."
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54. "Daryl Morey must laugh every time the Nets play...nm"
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>

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26. "Damn Embid put up a Wilt! "
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28. "Random observation"
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is the officiating crew for the SNF game all Black? If so, pretty cool.

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29. "Sir, this is an NBA thread "
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but I agree, very cool.

  

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30. "Yeah, I was just looking at the Week 10 post and forgot I left"
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I'll post it over there too.

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31. "half the warriors bench is unplayable fam."
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kerr seems to be realizing that.

bob myers said he wouldnt rule out a stint in the g league for kuminga and wiseman. nah man. ship them niggas off and try to get any sizeable vet who just knows how to play nba basketball. literally just any decent iq forward who knows where to be on offense and doesnt almost foul out in single digit minutes.

and put out some feelers for klay. dude is in perpetual 'shoot my way out of the slump' mode but the slump is 2 straight years lol. a high 30 something percent shooting night is good for him at this point. the worst shit is when he hits 2 straight 3s. cuz you know hes chucking up 8 more whether they go in or not.

this cant be the way forward for this team. these niggas fucking up stephs mvp year smh.

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37. "damn y'all trading Klay?"
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________________________________________
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43. "Friday night had me so mad fam"
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the ONE time Klay's Public Broadcasting lookin ass made a 3 was when it mattered. rest of the game he was ASS, almost to the level you can sag off him in favor of Curry.

and while (even in hate) I would be more optimistic over Poole long term, that dude streaky af. And he play like a lightskin Donkeylips on defense. Fouling like shit.

against the Cavs, Wiseman didn't even see the floor (because even Kevin Love would have cooked his ass). Lamb took most of the forward minutes from the bench.

I knew watching the offseason that GP2 and Otto dipping would cause problems.

Warriors probably would want to take a look at whoever Orlando is looking to cast off, to start. Not that I'd want to give those jabronis any ideas.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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32. "Around 15 games into the season and we’re load managing already??"
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Yea.. I’m good

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33. "Took the kids to Wiz/Grizzlies last night….no Ja "
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If these guys aren’t gonna play back to backs then stop scheduling them. We missed out seeing Giannis 3 years ago for the same thing. It costs a fortune to take your family to these things. It’s bad for the product man, this is a stars league.

  

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35. "That’s a damn shame. Sorry your kids missed out."
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I haven’t been to a live game in years for this very reason.

>If these guys aren’t gonna play back to backs then stop
>scheduling them. We missed out seeing Giannis 3 years ago for
>the same thing. It costs a fortune to take your family to
>these things. It’s bad for the product man, this is a stars
>league.

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36. "That sucks man , I hate this new load management bullshit "
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The analytics exacerbated this too, where they take 10 game averages and use it to predict future patterns like some bullshit basketball actuaries


>If these guys aren’t gonna play back to backs then stop
>scheduling them. We missed out seeing Giannis 3 years ago for
>the same thing. It costs a fortune to take your family to
>these things. It’s bad for the product man, this is a stars
>league.

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41. "At least they got to see Porzingis cook!"
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I hear what you're saying, but hey, take what you can from it.
______________________________________________________________________________

"To Each His Reach"

but.....

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59. "Fam I had to read that header twice😂"
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65. "LMAO!!! Yo, chill!!!!"
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...ask my top 5, I'll say me 5 times, like Dylan - Roc Marci

  

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66. "Or if teams load manage, they should advice the league ahead of time"
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Like a couple of days. Or that they can only load manage at home.

It sucks that fans get to see stars of the other conference only once a year. And if the player misses that game, the fans must wait a full calendar year.

I get why teams feel the need to do it, but the practice does hurt the fans.

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53. "fantasy bball is a joke with this bullshit"
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and yeah, paying your hard earned money to go to a game is basically playing roulette.

  

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63. "I love that Tatum is out there giving 100 every single game"
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I just hope it doesn't wear him down.

  

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34. "Joel’s performance last night up there with the best I’ve ever seen "
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In my 40 years of life.

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39. "yeah that stat line is just crazy."
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59 points plus nearly a Reb/Ast/Blocks triple double.

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40. "Hakeem shit"
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47. "26 of the team 27 in the 4th"
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That's what blew me away
33 going in to the 4th, ai honestly didn't expect him to go over 40

Insane close out
He started with the midrange, faceup, pull up Js
Those were hitting, so I knew it was going to be a big number
But 59 on a back to back after 42/10
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198. "he also had 5 blocks in the 4th"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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45. "The losing streak hits 4, but some caveats:"
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- Donovan Mitchell and Jarrett Allen did not play.
- JBB's ridiculous adherence to 8-man rotations had the team unprepared for 3 quarters of basketball
- Darius Garland went NUCLEAR in the 4th. 51 pts total, 10/15 from 3, ridiculous from the field. The first player (ahead of Embiid) to cross that number this season.

129 is the most points given up by the Cavs in regulation, due to that abysmal 1st half. But they only lost by 5, when they were looking to lose by over 20.

Some things learned:
The Cavs REALLY need a wing opposing teams can't cheat on. The biggest Ls in the draft are Dylan Windler over Keldon Johnson, Okoro over ... a number of guys (but NOT Avidja, like some say).

Right now Isaac Okoro is ValuTime Ben Simmons. He did have a better game than usual against Minnesota, and even hit a 3 pointer. He and Lamar Stevens actually slowed down the onslaught from the Wolves shooters, which opened the door to Darius going off. But this season so far has been disappointing overall for him.

Donovan Mitchell is better on defense than people think.

Jarrett Allen is indispensable.

Kevin Love (his worst game of the season) gets far too many passes for horrible defensive habits.

Bickerstaff needs to let go of playoff rotations earlier in the season. Dangerously getting to Thibodeaux levels with running players into the ground.

It's early in an 82-game season. Raul Neto and Lamar Stevens are on the team for a reason. Ditto for Mamadi Diakite. Need to see what those guys have.

the Cedi/Lopez duo needed to be switched out late to Mobley/LeVert. Probably would have won with those two in.

Cedi had a quiet 14 but the defensive habits are just ...

Hopefully Koby figures out how to consolidate the wing position. All the best fits are expensive af.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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48. "The wing thing is a real concern going forward."
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As I mentioned above, once Garland's extension kicks in, they'll have to save money to extend Mobley the following season, so the amount of money they have to get a *quality* defensive-minded 3-and-D wing is... going to be very limited. They are built, for better and for worse, around two small guards and two bigs.

And considering all their picks are headed to Utah for the next 6ish drafts, they're either going to need to (a) find a guy willing to take way less money to play in Cleveland, (b) find a veteran who has a stunning career resurgence in Cleveland, or (c) get very lucky in the second round/late first when it's a pick-swap year.

The alternate option, of course, is taking the fact that Okoro has been mediocre so far, offering him a fairly low-level extension or FA signing after his rookie deal runs out, and hoping he develops closer to age 24 than age 21. Which, honestly, might be the best bet. Because you can probably do that *and* sign a vet to a small deal as insurance.

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49. "AD put up 37 and 18 and it was the 3rd best game of the night, lol"
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56. "I feel like his great performances are a serious catch 22"
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I firmly believe he’s already peaked, and that injuries will plague him from here on out

So I’ve thought that since last season, and think he needs to be traded

The market for him is iffy because of the injuries
I think these performances can help fix that

But I think it also titillates our front office, who already seem like they can’t imagine trading AD or Lebron. I think we have too much optimism, too much loyalty, and too little ability to work two-three moves ahead. I think trading AD now is the best course overall, because he’s also the only piece with wven decent value outside of Lebron.

All in all it’s better for him to perform well. But damn if I’m not holding my breath for the sort of injury that renders him completely untradeable.

  

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52. "Shai: EVERYONE GETTING COOKED"
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55. "Deep fried with Crisco "
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57. "jordan poole plays so much better when he starts."
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hes probably a better starter than klay offensively. better shooter and better playmaker.

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58. "so Klay was rested tonight I assume..."
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and Dubs went crazy (albeit on a not great team).

hmmm.

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60. "hmmm."
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61. "I mean, the on/off numbers this year still *hugely* favor Klay."
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The Warriors are 13.3 points per 100 possessions better than their opponent when Klay is on the court-- and they're 20.4 points per 100 possessions *worse* than their opponent when Poole is on the court.

Now, some of that is because Klay plays more minutes with more starters than Poole does-- and certainly Klay's BPM being lower than Poole's, plus, y'know, the eye test, suggests that Poole is playing better than Klay right now...

... but Poole's BPM is still notably negative. And of the 25 most frequently used lineups in the NBA, the Warriors's lineup of Curry-Dray-Wiggins-Klay-Looney ranks *second best.* And it's in the top 5 of *all* lineups that have played more than 40 minutes together right now.

Furthermore, we have stats on the same lineup when Poole replaces Klay... and that same lineup is seventeen points per 100 possessions *worse* than when Klay is in the lineup. Smaller sample, but certainly lines up with the rest of the stats.

So I think, even with Klay's struggles, they shouldn't shake up the starting lineup. Even if Klay isn't the defender he once was, he's better on defense than Poole-- and the lineup size-wise makes more sense with Klay too.

I also just believe a shooter of his caliber will shake off a slump eventually. It's a nightmare start offensively for one of the best pure shooters we've ever seen, but I think he'll find his way.

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64. "oh, the "hmmm" was legitimate confusion on my part, LOL."
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i literally can't figure it out.

the way i see it? i guess it'll all shake out eventually.

i do agree that Klay will likely break out of his shooting woes. he's too pure of a shooter over YEARS to stay this bad.

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73. "He’s washed"
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62. "Shai Butter!"
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Shai!

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67. "if the Pelicans can just get Zion right…"
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68. "They need to read the tea leaves and trade him. "
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They also have picks to trade. They can gear up for a serious run if they wanted to trade zion and come off those picks.

I’d probably do Ayton/Brodges and a pick (more if they can get it) for Zion
Then see if i could pry Shai from OKC with those picks.

CJ
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70. "fantasy GMs lol"
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123. "Ideas lulz omg can you believe it"
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Run along with that bullshit

  

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69. "this sacramento team is a fun watch."
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71. "KD is about to demand another trade lol"
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72. "Is it too early to call Wiseman a bust?"
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How many #2 picks get sent to the G league?

Isn’t most of his hype based off of what he did in high school and “projects”?

He’s played what like 50 actual basketball games since high school?

A lot of the hype about the defending champion Warriors was about their “young talent” but that young talent is looking shaky right now and some of the old talent does too.

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74. "He looked promising his rookie year"
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but now? Yeah I'm not sure if it's that knee but he doesn't look the same.

  

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77. "its getting there."
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really the only thing you can count on him for is fouling.

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79. "I think he is a bust. Low basketball IQ."
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You gotta have bball IQ to connect your talent to the game so I don't see that materializing for him.

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80. "RE: Is it too early to call Wiseman a bust?"
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>How many #2 picks get sent to the G league?
>
>Isn’t most of his hype based off of what he did in high
>school and “projects”?

*projections*

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81. "He plays dumb and lazy. It’s up for him rn"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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83. "It's too early for that... but not too early to trade him."
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If they get Wiseman off the books for next year, they can reasonably resign Draymond. You can't let Draymond walk to keep Wiseman at this point. Even if you think Wiseman becomes a beast some point down the line, it's not worth losing Draymond on that dice roll.

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86. "how much is Draymond going to cost?"
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>If they get Wiseman off the books for next year, they can
>reasonably resign Draymond. You can't let Draymond walk to
>keep Wiseman at this point. Even if you think Wiseman becomes
>a beast some point down the line, it's not worth losing
>Draymond on that dice roll.

I know people think as if the Warriors print money but they already have a lot of contracts on the books. Somebody might have to go.

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75. "The lack of respect by today’s players towards former superstars .."
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I can’t fuck with this soft, paper thin generation.

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76. "who are you referencing specifically?"
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78. "Most of the Twitter finger generation."
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Morant in this instance

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87. "For what soft, paper thin actions? "
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What are they doing, exactly?

  

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82. "RE: The lack of respect by today’s players towards former superstars ...."
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>I can’t fuck with this soft, paper thin generation.

Its rough both ways. Hiphop showed up how this could go super wrong.

Some of these former dudes (not even superstars per se) are all in on that 'getting paid to hate on current players' business. And it almost has to create a rift between active and retired dudes. And we know media outlets/content creators love the drama cuz its lazy and easy eyeballs/energy/clicks.

And shit, when cats turn on Sportscenter or whatever and see Kendrick Perkins or whoever hating his ass off, that has to suck. Any one of the hundreds of pods with ex-players on there bashing dudes? Same thing. And you know it hurts when Shaq/Kenny/Charles go to town on someone, its hilarious, and it goes 'viral' because that's THE NBA show.

So of course, the young dudes feel SOME isolation and/or some kind of way. Hell, they already feel isolated in general based on how weird their lives are vs the average person their age. And they have to live that shit more publicly than any group of players ever. And of course, they're followed by a parade of woulda/coulda/shoulda folks..mostly folks who didn't help them with any of the shit they pulled off.

And sure, the attention is what helps lots of them make wild money 'before they've proven anything as a pro' vs 30 years ago. But at the same time, the bad faith and/or over the top scrutiny is also elevated. Dudes can have ONE bad week and there's hella words said and typed on the matter. And they more easily see that 'hate' than guys 30 years ago did.

And sure, MAYBE they need to 'log off' more. Maybe they need to 'get tougher'. But, for them, it has to be at least a little lame to not be able to be online and chill and clown around like other people their ages are certainly doing without seeing their face and name in the middle of some bad shit.

And hey, I'm old enough that I can fall into it too..calling 'these young dudes' bitches or whatever. But sometimes, I understand how it can happen. On one hand, these cats should appreciate their gifts, WORK ON THEIR GAMES DURING THE OFFSEASON, and try to play their asses off during the season. I'm down with that set of thoughts, so when anyone appears to not being doing that, I get the hate. But when its November and there's already people freaking out about multiple things 10-15 games in? I'm not as into that.

  

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84. "... matches the disrespect former superstars show today's players?"
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How many times have you seen some player from the 90s say Giannis would've been a bench player in their era or some horseshit like that? lol it's fairly frequent. Names change, mentality stays the same.

And if Barkley and Shaq are gonna be on TV talking shit, the number of young players who're gonna say something like "fuck this old man" is going to go up, lol. Nature of the beast.

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88. "It’s part of the game."
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George Gervin and all the old players did it to Jordan when he was the young rising
superstar…Jordan used his game to shit on them.

Ja saying kneepads is some sick, disgusting stuff, bro.

All Charles said was that he needs to make his teammates better….and that should
be the next step for him.

He basically told Barkley to suck his dick….telling another Blackman that could lead to getting your ass kicked.

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99. "Right, no respect for elders, lack of home training is what it's really ..."
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These dudes really thing their game is above criticism. SMH
Now if Chuck put his foot in his ass he'd be the bad guy.


>
>All Charles said was that he needs to make his teammates
>better….and that should
>be the next step for him.
>
>He basically told Barkley to suck his dick….telling another
>Blackman that could lead to getting your ass kicked.

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146. "I hear even death isn't off the table. "
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>He basically told Barkley to suck his dick….telling another
>Blackman that could lead to getting your ass kicked.


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85. "Ja just disrespectful in general this is on brand for him"
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89. "fam i had to check this kd quote to make sure it was real."
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https://twitter.com/BrooklynNetcast/status/1592933937277718528

its real.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10055867-br-exclusive-kevin-durant-explains-trade-request-coaching-frustrations-and-more

sheesh. bad enough dude threw his teammates under the bus. but to actually list out the names? lol.

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90. "damn lol"
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91. "its funny cuz the whole article is basically about leadership."
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92. "The lack of respect of today's players for today's players..."
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93. "bwahaahahaha!"
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Weren't some of these retired players crying about how the current players were too buddy buddy with one another? Hehe.

j/k lots of those dudes aren't talking in good faith on these pods and shows. Its just trolling, hating, and/or bear poking.

  

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94. "i don't see the issue. i think Bomani had the right read on this."
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95. "Bron dominated the East for a decade with dogshit teammates"
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those Cavs rosters were abortions. Lebron took them to the finals!

Being an elite player is so much more than just playing great. That remains as lost on KD as its always been. He wants elite player acclaim without the burden of elite player responsibility. If you're in Durant's position, you're the lead scorer, the team therapist, the mental health guru, the liaison between locker room and front office, etc. We can debate whether that's fair or not, but it doesn't make it any less true. Durant isn't built for that.

  

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97. "while i will grant you your point..."
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Lebron always had better teammates than these guys.

but yes, Lebron did take some average players a long ways. some of these Brooklyn players are not average.

also, Lebron's game is more built to carry a team than KD's. you'd have to have KD completely change his game to do what Lebron has ALWAYS done.

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118. "Read the whole quote, because that was my takeaway "
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KD - you expect me and 4 others to win...because I'm Kevin Durant

Taking that one paragraph out of his statement and trying analyze it is lazy

If you read the whole quote, I think you'll agree, he's saying exactly what he should be saying

I'm really good at bball and we should be winning games.

"Look at our starting lineup. Edmond Sumner, Royce O’Neale, Joe Harris, Claxton and me,” Durant said. “It’s not disrespect, but what are you expecting from that group? You expect us to win because I’m out there. So if you’re watching from that lens, you’re expecting us to play well because No. 7 is out there.”

“I’m really having a good time.” Durant said. “I wish y’all could hear me talk during the game. If I got mic’d up more, people would stop asking me if I’m happy or not. I’m enjoying every moment I get to step on this f------ court, and part of it is because I tore my Achilles. And the pandemic, I didn’t know if we were going to play again. I didn’t know if I was going to play again.

“I was just like, ‘This can’t be it for me.’ I have to really enjoy every single moment I’m out here. That’s part of being a pro. I have to be coachable, I have to knock down shots, I have to be aggressive, and I have to talk to my teammates the right way. That’s the journey and the battle.”

Despite playing with players who aren’t as big of superstars as Durant, the forward admitted that he’s had to play with so many different players in his career on different teams and such, so it’s not as big of an adjustment for him.

“I can play with anybody, anywhere, at any time, and you know I’m going bring it every day,” Durant said. “That should be my legacy.”

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96. "Bomani is a sportswriter, you don’t call out teammates like that…"
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publicly no matter who they are or aren’t

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113. "wtf. him and K yire is fucking dumb and dumber"
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115. "They're real and they're spectacular. (c)"
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I don't have much else to add outside of that Seinfeld reference.

Oh, and I just wonder how much worse dude is behind the scenes with his teammates if this was the sanitized version for the press.

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141. "Quotes like this reflect why KD had so much success in Golden State"
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In Golden State, all he had to do was be their closer. He didn't have to manage the locker room or manage up. His role was to close out games, and he did that so well his legacy was cemented as an all-timer.

But he just isn't *that guy* in the sense that LeBron or Steph are or even Dwayne Wade was. Dwayne isn't the basketball player KD is, but he elevated his teammates consistently in a way that KD hasn't shown.

And, really, that's fine. Every player has their strengths, and KD's is being a consummate baller. Just because he probably isn't the guy to transform a franchise and get them to a title doesn't mean he doesn't have tremendous worth as a basketball player.

I guess the issue is that his career will be judged against players who were *the guy.* Players like Kobe, Shaq, or even Dirk. Players who are around that all-time 15-25 mark. Those guys were all *the guy* at some point.

I don't think his leadership style is a blemish on him as a basketball player. He's done things with a basketball that all but a handful of players have done or will ever do. In that context, he's probably a Top 10 player in terms of his ability to do anything on the offensive side of a basketball court when he wanted and at a high level.

But it is a demerit on him as a basketball legend, as we think of them.

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147. "KD can't drive the bus but he can throw his teammates under it."
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98. "Going on 8 games"
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Player should walk the fock out. At this point the actions are beyond excessive and
it fractures the CBA, because there is no language for it and it is unprecedented.

They are preventing this man from making a living for himself, when no laws have been
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100. "nobody is walking out for Kyrie after he sat out almost all of last..."
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season when everybody else was playing lol

>Player should walk the fock out. At this point the actions
>are beyond excessive and
>it fractures the CBA, because there is no language for it and
>it is unprecedented.
>
>They are preventing this man from making a living for himself,
>when no laws have been
>broken and no policies have been severed.

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114. "lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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101. "what if joe mazzulla is a better coach than ime udoka?"
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104. "He isn’t. He is just using Udoka’s system and philosophy."
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145. "What if he's using Udoka's system & philosophy better than Udoka did?"
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102. "that booker/klay matchup used to be competitive at one point."
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103. "damn, Steph gotta score 30 in the half just to keep em in the game."
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not good.

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105. "klay cold af still chucking away perfectly good possessions."
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seriously he should be benched just for that selfish shit.

itd be one thing if he was just missing good shots.

but you cant just be out there launching shit and fucking up the ball movement every game. these are bad shots that fuck up everyone elses rhythm too.

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106. "poole aint helping his case by going completely missing."
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107. "jamychal green is ass."
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108. "Draymond Green out there doing nothing!"
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You supposed to be this great defensive player but Booker, Payne and Bridges are
getting buckets all night long.

I hate that nigga.

Imagine if GS was able to get 12-15 points from that position every night….
Looney is trash too

Suns got guys who can get Buckets at every position…

Poole 0-5
Thompson 5-6

Wiggins was 5/11 and 4/6 from three and having to carry the defensive
load.

Curry and Wiggins need HALP.

And Wiseman was sent to the G league and these bum ass
niggas are playing like this? Wiseman can’t get tick?

Makes no sense.

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109. "Everyone but Steph looks HORRIBLE."
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I don't think this is turning around.

I think Joe Lacob gambled and he made the wrong gamble with this roster.

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110. "kerr needs to *try* starting poole and benching klay."
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if klay sulks or throws a fit then trade his bitch ass.

this obviously aint the best game to be suggesting this lol. but they need some *big* changes.

they gotta shake this shit up fam. this soft love approach aint working.

bench niggas. let know niggas know theyre on the trading block. let niggas know their next contract is in jeopardy. and so on.

see who gets their shit together and responds. see who aint mentally built for this shit.

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111. "Klay was ASS, but Poole was worse. 0 made baskets????"
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I saw people on Twitter talking about "Get Steph outta Golden State" lol

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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129. "poole is a lot better when he starts."
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a lot better than klay too offensively.

part of me is wondering if poole is protesting not starting by mailing it in when he comes off the bench. because the dropoff makes no sense.

just like last year...dude looks like one of the best guards in the league when he gets that starting nod.

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117. "is it fair yet to wonder if the vibe is fucked up?"
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Like maybe it’s not basketball. That team is big on vibe, camaraderie, chemistry, feel…

To see them struggle this mightily, can we at least start asking about the ramifications of the Draymond punch? It was so quickly dismissed as “a family thing”, but dude they’re fucked up.

You paid that with Klay CLEARLY being in his own head? Not Zen in SF.

  

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119. "Nah they just suck from a personnel standpoint "
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Porter, Payton and JTA gave them a lot of length, IQ, grit, defense and options that we all underrated

Kuminga and Moody ain’t ready to do none of that

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120. "Kuminga and Moody (and Wiseman FOR SURE) ain't it."
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that's the gamble the Dubs GM made and it is proving a bad gamble.

the biggest mystery to me is Jordan Poole. One day, it's 20+ plus points and looking like himself so to speak.

then, the next day aka last night, it's making STUPID plays and scoring ZERO FGs.

even that doesn't feel like "bad vibes" from the Draymond thing. it's just WEIRD.

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122. "RE: Kuminga and Moody (and Wiseman FOR SURE) ain't it."
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>the biggest mystery to me is Jordan Poole. One day, it's 20+
>plus points and looking like himself so to speak.
>
>then, the next day aka last night, it's making STUPID plays
>and scoring ZERO FGs.

pressure is a mf

>even that doesn't feel like "bad vibes" from the Draymond
>thing. it's just WEIRD.

I also feel like the Warriors felt pressured to give Poole that deal after the Draymond thing

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124. "i kinda agree."
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>I also feel like the Warriors felt pressured to give Poole
>that deal after the Draymond thing

we'll never know i guess (well, in todays landscape we might find out one day), but i'm SURE the team felt pressure after that to do something for poole.

even so, they were always intent on keeping him far as anyone knows, so i guess that doesn't really matter i guess, outside of maybe they paid him a bit more than they had originally intended?

i'd love to know how Steph feels about all this:

-the punch
-klay (and him not staying fresh in the offseason)
-poole
-the plan to bank on the young guys
-not trying to resign some guys (which was also affected by how much they'd have to pay/ended up paying poole)

but he'll never say.

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127. "RE: i kinda agree."
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>
>>I also feel like the Warriors felt pressured to give Poole
>>that deal after the Draymond thing
>
>we'll never know i guess (well, in todays landscape we might
>find out one day), but i'm SURE the team felt pressure after
>that to do something for poole.
>
>even so, they were always intent on keeping him far as anyone
>knows, so i guess that doesn't really matter i guess, outside
>of maybe they paid him a bit more than they had originally
>intended?

I think they were going to re-sign Poole anyway too I just think the Draymond shit may have expedited it
>
>i'd love to know how Steph feels about all this:
>
>-the punch
>-klay (and him not staying fresh in the offseason)
>-poole
>-the plan to bank on the young guys
>-not trying to resign some guys (which was also affected by
>how much they'd have to pay/ended up paying poole)
>
>but he'll never say.

the thing about Steph in all his glory is he never seemed to be a big vocal guy on or off the court he seems to be content letting Dray be that guy

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126. "Their ages are 20, 20, and 21. "
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I definitely believe in Moody long-term, and I believe in Kuminga's upside and think it's worth developing. I'm more skeptical on Wiseman-- if only because I don't give a ton of value to traditional bigs in today's NBA-- but all three of them are just *so young.*

I think they *have* to play these kids to develop them, even if it's to the detriment of the record. I'm sure they believe that, as long as they make the playoffs, they can beat anyone if everyone's healthy, so homecourt doesn't matter as much to them. But with the needs to extend Wiggins (and Poole, though I questioned that move some), and the amount of money they already have on the books... they just didn't have a lot of flexibility to get some of those versatile 3-and-D wing types on the cheap for the bench this year. And they'll have the same problem next year (unless they deal Poole or let Draymond and/or Wiseman walk).

So the bench *has* to get better. And I think they more or less will, with time-- there's just a world in which they need more than just one more season to become impact bench players in the NBA at their age, and the Warriors' timeline may just be *slightly* misaligned.

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121. "I think they are definitely missing some role players from last year..."
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>Porter, Payton and JTA gave them a lot of length, IQ, grit,
>defense and options that we all underrated
>
>Kuminga and Moody ain’t ready to do none of that

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125. "I agree. I ain't on the inside so i don't know for sure."
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but no one else on this thread is either. Cant dismiss it like 'nah it aint that'. Especially since its the young guys that look like ass and a young guy that got knocked out. The whole youth movement could be looking at that shit sideways.

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112. "I probably watched 60+ Thunder games, last season..."
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and I'm in awe over how much Shai added to his game, in the off-season. He was always able to get any shot off, but he's even quicker to his spots. He looks physically stronger, but didn't sacrifice speed and plays through contact. As usual, he's so under control and never seems to get sped up by the defense. Sucks we got robbed of Shai, Chet and Giddy this year.

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116. "He refused to let them lose last night "
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The gear he has is what I wish Beal had. They made for an interesting contrast last night

  

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128. "is it just me or in all arenas since COVID there seems to be a concerted..."
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to push more fans closer to the court pushing the player benches further out which has also affected games at times...

https://www.nba.com/news/lamelo-ball-reinjures-ankle-after-stepping-on-fans-foot

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130. "Ben Simmons looked like Ben Simmons last night!"
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If that brings him back….shittt

If he runs the point like that? ….

And he hit his FTs

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131. "Thought he turned the corner vs SAC"
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But people were busy clowning the score
He looked healthy, comfortable...for the first time since he came back IMO
I was thinking, triple singles is all they really need from him
If he's going to d up and run point
That's really what BKN needs
Now if he can get back to double doubles, BKN might have something

+1, for whatever reason, his pro best games have always been on the west coast road trips

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132. "exactly, his game is predicated on aggressiveness...agressiveness comes"
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from being comfortable and confident. He can't just let the game come to him like a dude that can hit jumpers. It was going to take some time to get that back...honestly, maybe not having kyrie there accelerates it a bit...i don't know.

Its two games, but i like what i saw.

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134. "seriously. peak Ben is lightskin Donkeylips, he don't need to be more"
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>I was thinking, triple singles is all they really need from
>him
>If he's going to d up and run point
>That's really what BKN needs
>Now if he can get back to double doubles, BKN might have
>something

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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138. "peak Ben is better than Draymond on both ends"
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140. "Bro, you talking about peak Ben vs. Draymomd TODAY.."
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defensively? I don’t think Bens defense has ever been fucking with peak Draymond’s. Just off sheer effort, alone.

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142. "Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no. "
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157. "Surely you mean “what Ben could become with time.”"
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Because in no world has Ben’s best defense to date touched Draymond’s peak— or even Draymond’s defense as recently as last season. Dray wins DPOY if he doesn’t get hurt last year.

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133. "Royce O'Neal fucked and got a triple-double, Watanabe chipped in..."
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with 20, maybe KD should call out his teammates more often lol

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135. "^^^sees it^^^"
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everyone on KD's case for what?

returns are early but it sure looked like he lit a fire under their asses.

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136. "RE: ^^^sees it^^^"
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>everyone on KD's case for what?
>
>returns are early but it sure looked like he lit a fire under
>their asses.

I mean nobody needed to light a fire under Yuta. That dude plays on max adderall all the time. if anything he needs a chill pill to slow the fuck down and not just make bonehead plays.

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137. "true. that guy could actually benefit from "slowing the game down"..."
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at times, lol.

he's always turnt.

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139. "before now I think he was most known for being on an Ant Man poster lol"
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143. "jamychal green is a bum."
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what a useless pickup.

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148. "yeah hes been super terrible. "
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144. "really like this Wiz team / Heat should consider trading for KD "
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1. I went to the Wiz game tonight. Great time, DC came out full force for a Friday night party. This Wiz team is a lot of fun. Porzingis has been fantastic from 3, and tonight he was a monster on the defensive glass. Kuzma hit a big time clutch 3 to force OT (then missed 2 more in actual overtime but who cares) Kuzma’s impact is obvious when he’s on the floor, he does just about everything well. I’d like to see Hachimura be more physical - his physique looks strong but he doesn’t play strong. He needs to be more violent, I don’t think he’ll ever be a finesse guy.

2. The Heat, and specifically Lowry, were vicious on both ends. They keep a pace that most teams want no part of during the regular season. They had 7 guys available tonight and lost in overtime by 1 point on the road to the full strength Wizards. I repeat - THEY HAD SEVEN GUYS AVAILABLE. So much is made of “Heat culture”, but I watch them D up for a full 4 quarters with no depth to speak of and I just marvel at what Spoelstra gets out of his guys.
So I say all that to say - if the Nets are still floundering at the trade deadline (or even sooner), Miami should be hyper aggressive in pursuit of Kevin Durant. They’d automatically be a real Bucks foil and a legitimate NBA title contender. Trade Herro and a bunch of picks or whatever I dunno, but these windows are narrow and this team is badass enough as it is. At some point they gotta decide if they want to keep trying to over achieve or actually fulfill their potential as an organization.

  

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149. "Do the Heat have the assets to get KD?"
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>So much is
>made of “Heat culture”

I always felt like that was overhyped anyway

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150. "If only AD could be this guy every night or at least most nights "
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155. "If only they played this pistons team every night"
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The time to be excited about his potential is gone
He is who and what he is

Ship his ass out

  

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151. "AR15 rocked the baby lol…"
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https://www.instagram.com/p/ClIcuP_unpp/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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152. "Montrezz like FOH dude, get your ass off of our court"
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153. "I don’t blame him you don’t do that shit in my building lol…"
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https://theathletic.com/3912361/2022/11/19/bucks-giannis-antetokounmpo-montrezl-harrell-altercation/?amp=1

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154. "Except it’s not Trez’ building"
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Or any of theirs
None of them have any real authority to pull that shit

It wasn’t even a flex
It was just straight up childish

  

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156. "He’s acting like Giannis is wiping his feet on the 76ers logo"
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He’s just shooting some free throws.

  

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159. "exactly"
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It's one of the pettiest things I can think of

  

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161. "its his team's building, Im a Giannis fan but that shit was out of order..."
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I could see him doing that shit in Milwaukee but yo don't do that on the road.

The Philly arena staff had specific tasks that they have to do before players come back out and shoot and Giannis basically said "fuck all that y'all gon' wait on me because I couldn't make my FT's in the game!" FOH

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162. "FOH!"
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He always does that after a game….Trez wack bench player ass just being
bum ass nigga.

Giannis was just practicing free throws..game is over…

It’s regular life.

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163. "Kobe did that shit. "
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Who cares.

They’re PRACTICING the game they’re paid millions to play. Super weird to be on some teenagery “this is OUR house” nonsense when the game is literally over.

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166. "Lmao so that was why trez was taking jumpers?"
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Bc the workers had shit to do? Lol

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175. "Inly if you’re a goddamned child lmao"
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Giannis wasn’t out of order
Trez is just a petty ass child

Neither he, nor you, has a rational argument for why this was a problem

  

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158. "This whole thing is absurd"
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Pure comedy.

  

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160. "Trez is so annoying. Like dude, you aren’t Embiid. Stop it. "
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164. "doing all that just to get traded mid season. "
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165. "Again. "
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He brings effort and grit but he’s a less playable, bigger Pat Bev.

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167. "Lol"
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168. "Sure looks like the kyrie syspension worked"
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Good job nets!

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169. "i need to know who re-animated the corpse of Ben Simmons."
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he looks like all-star Ben Simmons all of a sudden.

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170. "L"
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172. "huh?"
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L what?

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179. "he had to have read your comment as a diss to Ben..."
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then came back after he had a good game and tried to TGIS you, lol.

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181. "He knows what’s up.."
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He up there acting.

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182. "i literally don't know what the fuck you're talking about."
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I AM GUESSING you're trying to give me an "L" for SOMETHING?

i have no Ben Simmons agenda.

bark up another tree, dumbass.



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185. "Nah you were hating….on Kyrie too"
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186. "LOL. "
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i'm not even gonna waste my time.

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195. "This caveman thinks Kyrie is a martyr 😂 "
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the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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171. "klay let his nuts hang tonight. 10/13 from 3. 41 pts."
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him and steph combined for 74.

and they barely beat the rockets smh.

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173. "it was the Rockets"
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>him and steph combined for 74.
>
>and they barely beat the rockets smh.

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174. "Stat check!"
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Box +/- numbers from today's game:

Curry: +22
Dray: +18
Klay: +14
Wiggins: +8
Poole: -6

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178. "the poole excuses i see make no sense to me."
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he has to lead the 2nd unit and get everyone involved, hes not playing alongside steph as a starter, hes drawing the opponents best defender (from the 2nd unit lol), etc.

its the exact same role he had much of last year! and he did fine then. people are acting like he has some new set of responsibilities that hes learning on the fly.

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176. "AD 30&18 "
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177. "Man, Ben Simmons at the 5 can wreck shit!"
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He can be the main one guarding Embid or Giannis, while pushing the
pill and orchestrating the offense on the other end…


Those jump hooks and floaters were straight butter.

And he is surrounded by straight shooters/scorers

O’Neal,Irving,Durant,Harris

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180. "Bum ass Lavine got benched down the stretch!"
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A supermax player was seen as a liability in the 4th quarter!

Think about that for minute…

A dude getting Giannis not deemed worthy to close out a game.

We are trash!

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183. "Told you Lonzo/Caruso were important. "
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That D fell off a cliff whenever they both went out last year.

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184. "I never really disagreed with that….because our interior defense is/wa..."
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trash city with Vuch.

I just want Leroy to admit he was wrong about Zach deserving
the Supermax.

Frank, too!

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187. "I mean, you DID…"
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But you’ve also been a proponent of saying that Vuc and Lavine are trash. Which I don’t agree with but don’t think a team of all these pieces really works either.

Anyway - being in a position for a lotto pick isn’t the worst thing in the world this year. Zos health is a huge question mark but he kinda does what you’re missing right today.

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188. "No. It is, when the objective was to be a competitive "
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PO team.

Management failed and did just as bad as the previous management.

Moved Carter, Jr and Gafford for Vuch, who wasn’t worth the contract he received.
And on top of that, they had an opportunity to trade him, but they didn’t. Now
he is going to walk for free, because he is a UFA at the end of the season….fail number 1

Fail number 2….Giving Lavine the supermax, a guy who is defensively terrible and sucks
in crunch time, which is why he was benched. And on top of that he has bad knees, where
he can’t play back to back games. You don’t max that. You trade that, and let him be
someone else’s problem. You buy low and sell high. His stock was through the roof
last season and they should have traded him….now they are stuck with him and his
terrible contract because everyone knows his knees are shot. He is damaged goods.

Lauri Marrkanen fail! When the Bulls traded him, everyone said the Bulls
made out like bandits. We got Derrick Jones, Jr. and picks…lol. Lauri is now in the
MVP conversation and playing like an allStar and Utah has the best record in the west…
Derrick Jones? Trash.

Our management team doesn’t know what it is doing, and the worse thing in the world
for this team is a lottery pick…because management doesn’t know what it is doing.


This team gives up on young talented players to just bring in bad or unhealthy players.

I foresaw it, and constantly voiced against it.

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189. "An MVP conversation less than 25% into the season is meaningless lol "
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He had his time there. Y’all did nothing with him. He wasn’t gonna work there but sure give him the green light in Utah and see what happens - which might be a Kuzma in Washington type year. Fringe all star at best. There’s zero chance Utah stays in the top 3 in the west at the ASB.

Anyway.

That’s not the point.

The point is YOU said their D would be fine without Zo and Caruso. And….nah.

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190. "Documented."
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“There’s zero chance Utah stays in the top 3 in the west at the ASB.”

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191. "Did you document you being loud and wrong of the Bulls defense?"
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Just asking.

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192. "No one denied their defensive contributions…"
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Hell I championed Lonzo’s defensive contribution…they were definitely big contributors


Show me a post where I denied their defensive contributions, or that they
weren’t important defensively. Never said such thing.

I may have disagreed with you that they were SOLELY responsible , because
of the defense of Patrick Williams and others who helped…but that wasn’t
denying them.

They were/are definitely important to the Bulls defensive scheme…record that.

Smh

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193. "Well, for one - here’s the receipt. "
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https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2755740&mesg_id=2755740&listing_type=search#2756113

Second - you are literally changing the argument to that I said you said they weren’t “important”. I never said that.

Defense fell off a cliff and hasn’t ever recovered.

Oh well.

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194. "I’m not sure what you’re trying to claim."
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I clearly stated:

“You don’t know what’s going to happen with our defense."
In response to Reply # 175



“Worry about your own wack defense and team.

We are straight. We got players who play hard and come to play.”

I never said anything about anyone. I simply said that you don’t
know what’s going to happen, and that we have players who play hard,
so we are straight.

I never said we would or wouldn’t fall off, but that players will come to play
and play hard…you talking about some
loud and wrong stuff when I never claimed anything.

You trying to get victory that bad?

Smh

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196. "You were not, in fact, straight. Anyway, I'm done with this. Bye."
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197. "I’m glad that you’re done with it."
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because you see that you’re wrong as hell….

which is glaringly obvious.

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199. "Luka is an overrated scorer. He doesn’t make anyone better."
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Shooting 28 pct from three.

How is he different from Westbrook?

All he does it stat pad, be he gets a white pass

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201. "hes a volume scorer. prolly similar fg and 3p percentages as kobe."
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200. "Go easy, Shai..."
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SGA drops Nuggets' Reed before mean pull-up jumper 💀
https://www.thescore.com/s/23691941

...ask my top 5, I'll say me 5 times, like Dylan - Roc Marci

  

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202. "Pushed off with the shoulder….and the momentum sent dude over."
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Shai has been cocking though.

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203. "his shoulder never touched him..."
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look at the alternate angle at the :14 mark....the behind the back snatch is what sent him.

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1595614581522563073?s=20&t=s09HDv2apj07Tbu7738Olw

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204. "jalen brunson might be underpaid."
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205. "best warriors win against good competition."
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watching kerr gradually figure out the rotations is pretty dope.

staggering the different starters minutes with the bench units is paying off rewards.

klay shooting like klay again.

wiggs looking like an all star again.

steph playing at an mvp level again.

a lot of be optimistic about.

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