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IceburgSmurf
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"McNabb spittin lava on shanahan snr and jnr"
Thu Mar-29-12 11:54 AM by IceburgSmurf

  

          

bringing out brian griese and nem http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7750946 Donny sounds furious

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
INB4 the bullshit
Mar 29th 2012
1
the article lays it out in print, mostly
Mar 29th 2012
6
thanks
Mar 29th 2012
2
scorned lover ass nigga
Mar 29th 2012
3
lol came here to post this. didn't see the clip but they're hating on
Mar 29th 2012
4
Philly Sports Radio is perplexing
Mar 29th 2012
11
      i feel you but historically the eagles really ain't shit
Mar 29th 2012
13
      shit, the Chargers are the West Coast Eagles
Mar 29th 2012
17
      i dont know if they are hall of fame caliber...
Mar 29th 2012
27
           McNabb has zero shot at getting into the Hall of Fame.
Mar 29th 2012
33
           Finneran's catch would have iced it......
Nov 25th 2012
111
      lol @ Brian Finneran
Mar 29th 2012
16
      RE: Philly Iggles in the NFL HOF
Mar 29th 2012
26
           that's actually not the end of the list
Mar 29th 2012
42
           i mean, to be wrong on matters of opinion is one thing
Nov 26th 2012
126
                I'll play, enlighten me. Who'd I forget
Nov 27th 2012
130
I kinda feel for donny
Mar 29th 2012
5
he said the same about Peyton on John Thompson's show (swipe)
Mar 29th 2012
7
      Peyton didn't go there because he had better options, that's it
Mar 29th 2012
9
           Yeah, they're called the other 29 teams in the league.
Mar 29th 2012
22
                disagree but wont put myself in position to argue on behalf of the Skins
Mar 29th 2012
23
                     OK fine. The Raiders are worse for a QB at the moment.
Mar 29th 2012
28
I hope he's right n/m
Mar 29th 2012
8
he may be wrong, he may be right
Mar 29th 2012
10
not really...
Mar 29th 2012
12
      McNabb sucked in DC
Mar 29th 2012
18
           they were both terrible
Mar 30th 2012
46
           RE: McNabb sucked in DC
Mar 30th 2012
49
           RE: McNabb sucked in DC
Mar 30th 2012
54
I'm rooting for him, hope he's right
Mar 29th 2012
14
like i said before..i feel for RGIII
Mar 29th 2012
15
me too, however now I actually have to root for his failure
Mar 29th 2012
20
Skip Bayless stole on McNabb today in this one here (SWIPE)
Mar 29th 2012
19
Yo Skip is dead ass wrong for that shti
Mar 29th 2012
21
what he say?
Mar 29th 2012
24
      RE: what he say?
Mar 29th 2012
31
           lol just saw. u can tell Donovan was thinking wtf in his head. wasn't
Mar 29th 2012
32
                man they were off the chains the whole show today
Mar 29th 2012
34
                     yea i'm thinking about DVR'ing that show
Mar 29th 2012
36
                          yeah that's what I do
Mar 29th 2012
38
Oh shit.. BWAHAHAHAHA.. ROFLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Mar 29th 2012
35
Skip was raw in that whole clip
Mar 29th 2012
37
FUCK SKIP GAYLESS
Mar 29th 2012
41
skip da gawd.
Mar 29th 2012
43
I stopped watching after I saw that graphic
Mar 29th 2012
25
what an absolutely clueless and sad bamma
Mar 29th 2012
29
not sure how elway/shan hitchin on the t davis train for those 2 chips
Mar 29th 2012
30
^^^^
Mar 29th 2012
40
isnt shanny's zone blocking scheme credited for davis' success tho?
Mar 30th 2012
61
Considering how he slummed out in Minny....
Mar 29th 2012
39
In classic McNabb SMH fashion, he talks shit NOW when it's too late.
Mar 29th 2012
44
McPuke's said "I do but I dont" when asked about a grudge with
Mar 29th 2012
45
Shanny DOES have an ego problem
Mar 30th 2012
47
rofl... a classic case of the message having merit...
Mar 30th 2012
48
RE: McNabb spittin lava on shanahan snr and jnr
Mar 30th 2012
50
Oh, he's right about Shanny
Mar 30th 2012
51
Is McNabb officially retired?
Mar 30th 2012
52
yea that "former NFL QB" graphic was kind of strange
Mar 30th 2012
56
He ain't lie
Mar 30th 2012
53
yep... I can't wait for this one to be cashed in
Mar 30th 2012
59
still better than cleveland!
Mar 30th 2012
60
      LOL Not at all but you have to tell yourself that
Mar 30th 2012
68
Shanny is a dick, but Dono is just delusional here
Mar 30th 2012
55
the big question is are the Shananhan's capable of grooming a QB?
Mar 30th 2012
57
      Jake Plummer had his best years in DEN under Shanny
Mar 30th 2012
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      this.
Mar 30th 2012
63
      The Backfoot Assassin >>>>>>>>>>> ....
Mar 30th 2012
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      his QB rating was better in DEN
Mar 30th 2012
66
      Jay Cutler is a great quarterback
Mar 30th 2012
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      RE: Jake Plummer had his best years in DEN under Shanny
Mar 30th 2012
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           I don't have a dog in this fight, but the argument is flawed
Mar 30th 2012
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                neither do i
Mar 30th 2012
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      Oh please. Fat man's QB rep is almost as overrated
Mar 30th 2012
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      you aren't seriously questioning Fat Bastards QB/offensive
Mar 30th 2012
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      Re:
Mar 30th 2012
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      RE: Re:
Mar 30th 2012
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      fixed it for you ALL CAPS
Mar 30th 2012
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      this needs its own post
Mar 30th 2012
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           Lol
Apr 02nd 2012
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      this was the crux of McNabb's argument
Mar 30th 2012
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      you can't say Favre/Reid but ignore Young/Shanahan
Mar 30th 2012
83
rex grossman and christian ponder
Mar 30th 2012
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They're at it again. You must DVR ESPN First Take today lol
Mar 30th 2012
70
So who is this mythical QB genius that grooms draft picks
Mar 30th 2012
77
^^ ignoring the facts
Mar 30th 2012
82
      disciplined, athletic, accurate passers thrive in Shanny's system
Mar 30th 2012
86
Dono's really talkin bout KYLE
Mar 30th 2012
80
I agree with this
Mar 30th 2012
81
with talent, Kyle's system is cash.
Mar 30th 2012
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      RE: with talent, Kyle's system is cash.
Mar 30th 2012
88
Mar 30th 2012
84
Mar 30th 2012
85
      you right
Mar 30th 2012
90
People are rightfully hating the messenger, but there is some truth
Mar 30th 2012
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did folks pick shanny apart like this before he came to DC?
Mar 30th 2012
91
Circumstances have changed. He's getting exposed.
Mar 31st 2012
92
      so the answer is no?
Mar 31st 2012
93
           I don't care for Shanahan
Mar 31st 2012
94
alex gibbs was the architect of that run game, and THAT's what
Apr 02nd 2012
101
Ls all around, just a publicity stunt, nothing to see here
Apr 02nd 2012
96
I think he's gonna have a good career as an analyst/commentator
Apr 02nd 2012
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yeah b/c ego has always been Dono's problem?
Apr 02nd 2012
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      yeah b/c Dono's always had a communications degree from SU
Apr 02nd 2012
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      actually in a way ego was one of his issues, his unwillingness
Apr 02nd 2012
100
           ^
Apr 05th 2012
103
           a minor issue
Apr 05th 2012
107
Shanny fires back
Apr 05th 2012
102
sounding like a gay ass, onion-breathed, greasy lipped...
Apr 05th 2012
104
what a p*ssy thing to say
Apr 05th 2012
105
it's actually the opposite of that
Apr 05th 2012
108
lolol
Apr 05th 2012
106
SHANNY STRIKES BACK (McNabb fat and lazy)
May 17th 2012
109
?
Nov 25th 2012
110
yea, fuck him.
Nov 25th 2012
112
lmao
Nov 25th 2012
113
Even in retirement
Nov 25th 2012
114
Damn, how was this not upped sooner? lmao
Nov 25th 2012
115
Even i forgot about all this
Nov 25th 2012
117
too soon
Nov 25th 2012
116
on the low I think Shanny is doing Griffin no favors long-term
Nov 26th 2012
118
i think the offense this year is part of the long term plan
Nov 26th 2012
119
he's making good decisions by not being asked to make many
Nov 26th 2012
120
      sorry, what's this idiotic argument?
Nov 26th 2012
121
           he's just in denial that our joke of a franchise
Nov 26th 2012
123
you shouldnt let ur jealousy show like that (c) guru
Nov 26th 2012
122
damn, y'all mad for no damn reason when I'm complementing your QB
Nov 26th 2012
124
      worry about ur own team
Nov 26th 2012
125
      fix your face, nobody's 'worried' here, I'll comment where I see fit
Nov 27th 2012
131
      nobody believes your garbage except you.
Nov 27th 2012
128
           RE: nobody believes your garbage except you.
Nov 27th 2012
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                so how many rushes ARE designed rushes?
Nov 28th 2012
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                     RE: so how many rushes ARE designed rushes?
Nov 28th 2012
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I think the short term success is more beneficial.
Nov 27th 2012
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      Nah, Bomb's already got it figured out.
Nov 27th 2012
129
      ^^^more salt & sarcasm from the world's maddest moderator
Nov 27th 2012
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           pointing out your terrible theory doesn't actually make me
Nov 28th 2012
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                who's to say since that seems to just be your default state in here
Nov 28th 2012
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      RE: I think the short term success is more beneficial.
Nov 27th 2012
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           its not a throw away year when your trying to change a culture
Nov 27th 2012
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                yeah the "throw away year" claim just shows he's ignorant & projecting
Nov 28th 2012
136
                     I'm sorry were u under the impression this team is making the playoffs?
Nov 28th 2012
141
                          the Phillies won a game more recently than the Eagles
Nov 28th 2012
142
                          you keep trying for an angle where I'm mad about the Skins
Nov 28th 2012
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                          I can't fathom how anyone could say he isn't developing.
Nov 28th 2012
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                               probably because no one actually did say that n/m
Nov 28th 2012
144
^
Jan 07th 2013
146
*Muttley laughs*
Jan 08th 2013
147
i'll just put this right here
Jan 08th 2013
148

Dr Claw
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1. "INB4 the bullshit"
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Thu Mar-29-12 12:12 PM by Dr Claw

  

          

I can't even see the clip, but I hope it's dripping with lava

edit: I saw what he said --

“What offense are you going to run with him? Is it the spread offense that you try to continue to flourish and that he’s been successful in?” McNabb asked. “Or are you just going to have him in a foxhole, with a make-shift offensive line? You’re bringing in receivers, and you have a solid tight end in Fred Davis that you need to feature. What are we going to see?

“I don’t think it’s a great fit. The D.C. fan base will support RGIII because they love the acquisition and they think he will be great for the area, the DMV, as they call it. But, if this doesn’t work this year, if we don’t see a Cam Newton splash, this could be it.”

good.

I can't wait until this newest experiment burns out in flames. Sucks that a good dude gotta go down, but... NOPE

  

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6. "the article lays it out in print, mostly"
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Thu Mar-29-12 12:12 PM by IceburgSmurf

  

          

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2. "thanks"
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I'll check it out later

  

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3. "scorned lover ass nigga"
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man, go sitcho soupy ass down somewhere

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4. "lol came here to post this. didn't see the clip but they're hating on"
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mcnabb like shit on philly radio over what he said
basically he said RG3 won't do well under shanny
philly media are spinning it like typical woe is me donovan shit because he was washed up when he got to DC and shanny found out what he had , was like 0_0 and moved on

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11. "Philly Sports Radio is perplexing "
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I dont get their hate against McNabb. The conversation yesterday was are Andy Reid/McNabb are Hall of Fame caliber. the consensus was no, they even said that McNabb had an "good" career not great. i cant be the only one that remembers the Eagles pre McNabb and Reid, when they were the "Beagles" numerous black outs, Andy Reid's first game "Season Opener against the Cardinals aka the Brian Finneran Game" was blacked out. Think about it? season opener home game in Philly blacked out because the Eagles couldnt sell out. It ridiculous how they are trying to downplay the era, because they didnt get a SuperBowl.

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13. "i feel you but historically the eagles really ain't shit"
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so it's hard to say what "best coach in franchise history" or "best QB in franchise history" even means
somebody on here called the Donovan era eagles the "east coast Chargers"....and it's kind of true when you look at the expectations and then end results
1-4 in NFC title games and they were favored in ALL 5?
that kind of means something
marv levy and jim kelly are in the HOF so they have a chance...i wouldn't hold my breath on mcnabb though

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17. "shit, the Chargers are the West Coast Eagles"
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>somebody on here called the Donovan era eagles the "east coast
>Chargers"....and it's kind of true when you look at the
>expectations and then end results

I used to say that about them (here), and I still feel that way about them. Strangely enough Norval is Andying it up over there even more than Marty could ever dream and Chargers fans feel much the same about him...

  

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27. "i dont know if they are hall of fame caliber..."
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it too early to tell on either one. McNabb may not get in on pure stats, but down the line might be seen as the transition to more mobile QBs, Reid might get in basedon longevity, are coaches realistically getting 10+ years ,in a win now league?

my thing is this city tries to downplay the era, because of a superbowl, when the McNabb and Reid made football relevant.

Brian Finneran got acclaim that whole summer cuz he was Villanova product and was out of NFL Europe, first game of the season, dude has a chance to catch the ball down the sideline to put the Eagles in FG position for the win, drop! dude was cut the next day...

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33. "McNabb has zero shot at getting into the Hall of Fame."
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111. "Finneran's catch would have iced it......"
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the birds were already up at that time. Kwame Lassiter instead picks off the bobble, takes it across midfield. Shaky Jake Pummer did the rest. I was at that game, had to gat my crew to escort me out. LOL.

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16. "lol @ Brian Finneran"
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>numerous black outs, Andy Reid's first game "Season Opener
>against the Cardinals aka the Brian Finneran Game" was blacked
>out.

following the Eagles back then was PAINFUL
if you were out of the viewing area you were FUCKED
I hated "blackout" rules, still do.

I felt like Lions fans did pre-Stafford and Megatron for real.

  

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26. "RE: Philly Iggles in the NFL HOF"
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Chuck Bednarik

and Reggie White

end of the list

now consider McNabb and Reid

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42. "that's actually not the end of the list"
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>Chuck Bednarik
>
>and Reggie White
>
>end of the list

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126. "i mean, to be wrong on matters of opinion is one thing"
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on matters of fact, that's another.

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130. "I'll play, enlighten me. Who'd I forget"
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Ray Diddinger?

Norm Van Brocklin
Sonny Jurgenson

are you sure they're enshrined as Iggles?

I did forget Steve Van Buren

I actually posted this reply after going to the HOF

I intentionally sought out Iggle players

needless to say, I was disappointed

maybe Chuck and Reggie were the only Iggle players to be featured

and I overlooked a couple

but the sentiment still stands

when you consider these names

and the caliber of player they were (the best at their position)

I don't think McNabb and Reid are deserving of Canton

the Iggles honor roll, sure

but the HOF isn't for pretty good, it's for greatness

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5. "I kinda feel for donny"
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people got furious when he didnt say something during the debacle and now that he is all folk are saying is he has an axe to grind.

I like that skip asked him straight up if this was because he had an axe to grind.

On the low he makes some valid points which will make sure shanny is flexible with the system they put around RG3

  

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7. "he said the same about Peyton on John Thompson's show (swipe)"
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Link: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/02/donovan-mcnabb-peyton-manning-wont-play-for-redskins/1#.T3SYStU-Xcs

The story that continues to coalesce during this NFL offseason revolves around the murky future of Colts QB Peyton Manning.

However Donovan McNabb wants to offer one degree of certainty regarding Manning: He won't play for the Redskins.
CAPTION
By Maxwell Kruger, US Presswire

"Peyton's not gonna go there," NcNabb told ESPN 980 in Washington recently.

"I don't see Peyton ending up in Washington. Because what happens is now you're bringing in another veteran who will be 35, 36, who's been in one offense throughout his career -- it's the same situation (as McNabb in 2010).

"Peyton is such an offensive coordinator, so now what does that do to your offensive coordinator? Does he step down? Does he step back? Does he, you know, begin to change the whole offense according to the play of the quarterback? that he has in Peyton Manning? Well I didn't see that happen, so I definitely don't see that happening for Peyton."

McNabb struggled playing for HC Mike Shanahan and his son, OC Kyle Shanahan, during his lone year with the Redskins after spending his first 11 seasons as a six-time Pro Bowler for the Eagles. McNabb, who seemed to clash in particular with Kyle Shanahan behind the scenes, was ultimately benched for the final three games of 2010 before being traded to the Vikings months later.

McNabb seemed to signal his feelings about the Shanahans during the interview by failing to mention them by name.

"As I look back on that year, I was very excited on joining the Washington Redskins," he said. "I loved (owner) Dan Snyder; I love his attitude and his approach. I loved (GM) Bruce Allen and what he was trying to do. Situations were a lot different once I got there, with coaching and play-calling and things of that nature, where it wasn't suited around the talent of your quarterback."

  

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9. "Peyton didn't go there because he had better options, that's it"
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>
>
>Link:
>http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/02/donovan-mcnabb-peyton-manning-wont-play-for-redskins/1#.T3SYStU-Xcs
>
>The story that continues to coalesce during this NFL offseason
>revolves around the murky future of Colts QB Peyton Manning.
>
>However Donovan McNabb wants to offer one degree of certainty
>regarding Manning: He won't play for the Redskins.
>CAPTION
>By Maxwell Kruger, US Presswire
>
>"Peyton's not gonna go there," NcNabb told ESPN 980 in
>Washington recently.
>
>"I don't see Peyton ending up in Washington. Because what
>happens is now you're bringing in another veteran who will be
>35, 36, who's been in one offense throughout his career --
>it's the same situation (as McNabb in 2010).
>
>"Peyton is such an offensive coordinator, so now what does
>that do to your offensive coordinator? Does he step down? Does
>he step back? Does he, you know, begin to change the whole
>offense according to the play of the quarterback? that he has
>in Peyton Manning? Well I didn't see that happen, so I
>definitely don't see that happening for Peyton."
>
>McNabb struggled playing for HC Mike Shanahan and his son, OC
>Kyle Shanahan, during his lone year with the Redskins after
>spending his first 11 seasons as a six-time Pro Bowler for the
>Eagles. McNabb, who seemed to clash in particular with Kyle
>Shanahan behind the scenes, was ultimately benched for the
>final three games of 2010 before being traded to the Vikings
>months later.
>
>McNabb seemed to signal his feelings about the Shanahans
>during the interview by failing to mention them by name.
>
>"As I look back on that year, I was very excited on joining
>the Washington Redskins," he said. "I loved (owner) Dan
>Snyder; I love his attitude and his approach. I loved (GM)
>Bruce Allen and what he was trying to do. Situations were a
>lot different once I got there, with coaching and play-calling
>and things of that nature, where it wasn't suited around the
>talent of your quarterback."

  

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magilla vanilla
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22. "Yeah, they're called the other 29 teams in the league."
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I think maybe Cleveland is the only worse place for a quarterback to go right now.

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23. "disagree but wont put myself in position to argue on behalf of the Skins"
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>I think maybe Cleveland is the only worse place for a
>quarterback to go right now.

  

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28. "OK fine. The Raiders are worse for a QB at the moment."
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8. "I hope he's right n/m"
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10. "he may be wrong, he may be right"
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It doesn't negate the fact that he sucked horribly as a Redskin and Sexy Rexy has been about 10x better.

  

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12. "not really..."
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>Redskin and Sexy Rexy has been about 10x better.

C'mon man, I know you didn't just type that.

...

my thoughts,

peace.

  

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18. "McNabb sucked in DC"
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Rex isn't the answer but he's performed better than Donovan did.

  

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46. "they were both terrible"
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there was almost no difference

  

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49. "RE: McNabb sucked in DC"
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Never thought I would see people so desperate to throw Donovan under the bus that they are forced to praise Rex Grossman.



Good Times.

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54. "RE: McNabb sucked in DC"
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The Sk*ns were a bad team the year before McNabb got there, with very questionable and aging talent. Then they got rid of a bunch of guys just prior to the McNabb season and only really added McNabb (and Trent Williams).

They got rid of receivers, didn't upgrade the o-line and they essentially made the team worse, yet people were expecting McNabb to succeed in that situation, which he was set up to fail? The team was a BAD 4-12 the year before, in which Jason got killed out there, and then you just through McNabb into essentially a worse situation and expect him to do better.

Given what was around him that year, I wouldn't go so far as to say he sucked, nor was Rex Grossman, at any time in his career BETTER than McNabb.

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14. "I'm rooting for him, hope he's right"
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15. "like i said before..i feel for RGIII"
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20. "me too, however now I actually have to root for his failure"
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until he gets out of the division.

  

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19. "Skip Bayless stole on McNabb today in this one here (SWIPE)"
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http://youtu.be/mscTO8tBcI0

  

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21. "Yo Skip is dead ass wrong for that shti"
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I gotta respect him for saying it to him on the aire though.

I wouldn't be upset if someone Jim Rome'd him though.

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24. "what he say?"
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31. "RE: what he say?"
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He said "Where were you Mr Vikings QB who I supported wrongly last year and looked like a fool?"

  

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32. "lol just saw. u can tell Donovan was thinking wtf in his head. wasn't"
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expecting that ether

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34. "man they were off the chains the whole show today"
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Had me rolling

  

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36. "yea i'm thinking about DVR'ing that show"
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it's kind of long though
wish there were a way to preview topics

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38. "yeah that's what I do"
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I try not to keep more than 2 episodes at a time cuz they eat up space.

  

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35. "Oh shit.. BWAHAHAHAHA.. ROFLOLOLOLOLOLOL"
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37. "Skip was raw in that whole clip"
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I'm starting to get some respect for him

  

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41. "FUCK SKIP GAYLESS"
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yep, I'm taking it back to 4th grade
and don't give a fuck
LICK MY BALLS

  

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43. "skip da gawd."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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25. "I stopped watching after I saw that graphic"
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Did anybody else note the W-Ls directly correlating to TD-INTs

The TD/INT ratio gets progressively worse

is that all Shanny's fault

The fact that he had a good winning % with Brian Griese speaks more to his coaching ability

than a terrible winning % with Beck, Rex, and McNabb

Skins were 5-8 in 10' with him as the starter

14 TDs/15 INTs

Where are the back to back SB years with Elway?

DEN went 46-10 from 96'-98

Elway's TD/INTs, 75/35

Man, that graphic should have ended that discussion

Michael Smith "Donovan, I don't see your name on there"

Skip "That's because he never PLAYED for the Skins"

c'mon man

that graphic was a lob pass and nobody dunked that shit




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29. "what an absolutely clueless and sad bamma"
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30. "not sure how elway/shan hitchin on the t davis train for those 2 chips"
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Got those dudes so far from their spots on the choke/couldnt get it done/never really had *it* list


elway not as bad as shan, who still gets upper tier coach respect for some reason, 15 yrs later and not until after really goin overboard wit the shan jr/rex situation is just now starting to be seen as less than bulletproof



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40. "^^^^"
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>elway not as bad as shan, who still gets upper tier coach
>respect for some reason, 15 yrs later and not until after
>really goin overboard wit the shan jr/rex situation is just
>now starting to be seen as less than bulletproof

  

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61. "isnt shanny's zone blocking scheme credited for davis' success tho?"
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39. "Considering how he slummed out in Minny...."
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He prolly shouldnt be doin a whole lot of commenting on anything.


Every good young Qb goes to a scrub team. The good ones overcome it. Even though I think he did kind of get screwed here...he just sounds like a bitter bamma.

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44. "In classic McNabb SMH fashion, he talks shit NOW when it's too late."
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Where was this fire when Shanahan and everybody else who has shitted on him through out his career? Just stay gone now Bruh ....

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45. "McPuke's said "I do but I dont" when asked about a grudge with"
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the Skins, that is Blagojevich level double talk.

McPuke will talk himself off of TV real soon. He never takes blame or admits to his faults but wants all the credit for the success. FOH


I just wished he would've went to the NFL Network with all the HOF they have over there. He would get clowned each and every time he stepped out of line.

"hey, make this right mayne
stop at the light mayne,
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47. "Shanny DOES have an ego problem"
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and after a while it will be obvious whether he gives RG3 a chance to succeed or if he tries to shoehorn him into his "genius".

  

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48. "rofl... a classic case of the message having merit..."
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...but all types of arms flailing up in the air due to the messager

  

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50. "RE: McNabb spittin lava on shanahan snr and jnr"
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Damn, Donovan really made a lot of people mad in his career...of winning...for their notoriously stingy and poorly coached team.

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51. "Oh, he's right about Shanny"
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Him and his son are the biggest threats to RG3's development.

I think his job is secure enough to withstand a throwaway season with a rookie QB but he's notoriously impatient and so I don't doubt he'll yank RG3 at some point rather than let him learn from frequent mistakes.

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52. "Is McNabb officially retired?"
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56. "yea that "former NFL QB" graphic was kind of strange"
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dude is only what 33? 34?
ESPN just assumed dude was DONE lol

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53. "He ain't lie"
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RGIII gonna have to be all that to overcome everything that the Redskins are going to place in his way.

  

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59. "yep... I can't wait for this one to be cashed in"
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>RGIII gonna have to be all that to overcome everything that
>the Redskins are going to place in his way.

  

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60. "still better than cleveland!"
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68. "LOL Not at all but you have to tell yourself that"
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55. "Shanny is a dick, but Dono is just delusional here"
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For one, RGIII in theory is a perfect fit for the system.

But what's way funnier is how oblivious he is to just how bad he was post-Eagles. It's well documented that McNabb dicked around here, wasn't in shape, didn't commit to the playbook etc. He cooked his own goose both in DC and Minnesota. Shanahan benched his fat ass because REX GROSSMAN had the playbook down better than he did, and to not even briefly acknowledge his failure in Washington is laughable and sad.

EDIT:
I mean c'mon bruh
http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/WashingtonPost/Content/Blogs/dc-sports-bog/StandingArt/mcnabbgraphic0312.jpg?uuid=hbjc3nm4EeGTYs2Ymsa_sg

  

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57. "the big question is are the Shananhan's capable of grooming a QB? "
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McNabb's point was outside of Elway who has Shanahan groomed or career revised? No one, its not like Andy Reid's track record where he arguably groomed Favre, no question on McNabb, faked the league into thinking AJ Feeley was a starter, restarted Jeff Garcia's career, faked the league into thinking Kevin Kolb is a starter, and that's before you get into Mike Vick.

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58. "Jake Plummer had his best years in DEN under Shanny "
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as did Brian Griese

you do know he was OC on the 9ers from 92-94

and the OC in DEN 84'

the point is he won't be able to groom a draft pick into an elite QB

and you're basing that off of the last 2 years in WAS

with guys like McNabb, Beck, and Rex

c'mon

is this being based off of Jay Cutler?

I think we know he is not an elite QB










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63. "this."
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65. "The Backfoot Assassin >>>>>>>>>>> .... "
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he may not be "elite" but what he's done with those Bears squads?

  

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66. "his QB rating was better in DEN"
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and not by much

I'm just saying he is who he is

a gun slinger that's going to throw a handful more TDs than INTs

I don't think Shanny would have been able to change that




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67. "Jay Cutler is a great quarterback"
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he's not "elite" as everyone loves to say, but he's most definitely in that Big Ben range that sits right outside of Brady,Peyton,Brees,and Eli

I'd go

Brady
Peyton
Rodgers
Brees
Eli
Big Ben
Cutt Dog
Cam
Romo
Schaub

and a bunch of other whatever bammas

  

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69. "RE: Jake Plummer had his best years in DEN under Shanny "
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>as did Brian Griese
>
>you do know he was OC on the 9ers from 92-94

those San Fran teams were stacked with top talent.


>and you're basing that off of the last 2 years in WAS
>
>with guys like McNabb, Beck, and Rex
>


no i am basing if off he has not established a franchise QB, Elway is arguably the best QB ever, GRANTED he got Elway two rings, even if Terrell Davis was the engine of those teams.

but outside of that who has he established as a franchise QB?

Kyle Shany what has he done? besides hitch a wagon to his wolfpack brother Grossman? Being the offensive coordinator to an 8-8 Houston Texans squad, suddenly makes you a offensive genius?


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71. "I don't have a dog in this fight, but the argument is flawed "
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The statistics presented were slanted toward McNabb's theory

you don't get to say except Elway

because he DID have a big hand in Elway's career

and he also had success with other QBs that McNabb was suppose to be better than (Plummer and Griese)

when considering ALL of the numbers

I would conclude that McNabb was the problem

and Shanny sent him packing, same as Haynseworth

He wasn't treated any better in MIN

but he won't throw those guys under the bus because they have PHI ties

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73. "neither do i "
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i just dont think he is that great of coach when it comes to QBs, which is what McNabb was saying essentially saying.

Shanahan greatest strength is the zone blocking scheme, and finding running backs that excel in that scheme.

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62. "Oh please. Fat man's QB rep is almost as overrated"
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as anyone else's.

You think Fat man did anything to make 36 year old Jeff Garcia good for one season or you think he just put him on the field in the right offense?

And he convinced two of the worst franchises in the league to take on two shitty QBs? Awesome - he must be a QB genius.

He got to hang around Brett Favre for a couple years, he helped McNabb be great, and so far he's helped Mike Vick have ONE great season.

The Fat Man's QB rep needs to get real.

  

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72. "you aren't seriously questioning Fat Bastards QB/offensive"
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acumen are you?
getting the most out of quarterbacks and developing offensive schemes are his specialties
and he's so good at it that it compensates for all his deficiencies like game management and personnel skills
to the tune of a top 10 all time winning % and likely first ballot HOF induction....
and you're kind of missing the point by bringing up how ass AJ Feeley and Kolb are
because Reid was able to get the most out of them and have them ball out to the point he could dump them on fooled suitors (add redskins and mcnabb to that too)
i don't even like dude as a coach and want him dumped after this year but i can't see how this is debatable at this point
you could argue that andy reid is partially responsible for ushering in this new pass happy era and the rule changes that came along with it
andy reid's influence on the modern QB position impacted the culture of the game as a whole

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75. "Re:"
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>you could argue that andy reid is partially responsible for
>ushering in this new pass happy era and the rule changes that
>came along with it
>andy reid's influence on the modern QB position impacted the
>culture of the game as a whole

lolol.

Back to the topic at hand:

Andy Reid is not an example of a QB development guru.

  

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76. "RE: Re:"
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>Back to the topic at hand:
>
>Andy Reid is not an example of a QB development guru.
>
>


"getting the most out of quarterbacks and developing offensive schemes are his specialties
and he's so good at it that it compensates for all his deficiencies like game management and personnel skills
to the tune of a top 10 all time winning % and likely first ballot HOF induction....
and you're kind of missing the point by bringing up how ass AJ Feeley and Kolb are
because Reid was able to get the most out of them and have them ball out to the point he could dump them on fooled suitors (add redskins and mcnabb to that too)"

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78. "fixed it for you ALL CAPS"
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>acumen are you?
>getting the most out of quarterbacks and developing offensive
>schemes are his specialties
>and he's so good at it that it OVERSHADOWS all his
>deficiencies like game management and personnel skills
>to the tune of a top 10 all time winning % and likely first
>ballot HOF induction....
>and you're kind of missing the point by bringing up how ass AJ
>Feeley and Kolb are
>because Reid was able to get the most out of them and have
>them ball out to the point he could dump them on fooled
>suitors (add redskins and mcnabb to that too)
>i don't even like dude as a coach and want him dumped after
>this year but i can't see how this is debatable at this point
>you could argue that andy reid is partially responsible for
>ushering in this new pass happy era and the rule changes that
>came along with it
>andy reid's influence on the modern QB position impacted the
>culture of the game as a whole

  

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79. "this needs its own post "
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>you could argue that andy reid is partially responsible for
>ushering in this new pass happy era and the rule changes that
>came along with it
>andy reid's influence on the modern QB position impacted the
>culture of the game as a whole


Andy was the one of the first coaches to expose mismatches, the way he used Westbrook out of the back field to expose mismatches was revolutionary. When he figures a team out his play calling is second to none, see that Monday night game against the Redskins.

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95. "Lol"
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74. "this was the crux of McNabb's argument"
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>You think Fat man did anything to make 36 year old Jeff Garcia
>good for one season or you think he just put him on the field
>in the right offense?

Garcia was in an offense that is suited to his playing style. That's why I want Vick's successor or backup to be that kind of QB (part of the reason why I liked Kafka more than Kolb).

This is Shanahan's chance #2 at a real clean slate (Beck was sort of one, but then he went back to Rex).

I'm surprised that they have so much passing, since the big thing about Shanahan's Donkey teams was mostly the RB (by committee) squad.

  

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83. "you can't say Favre/Reid but ignore Young/Shanahan"
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but if your point is that Reid is a better qb guru, that might be accurate.

>McNabb's point was outside of Elway who has Shanahan groomed
>or career revised? No one, its not like Andy Reid's track
>record where he arguably groomed Favre, no question on McNabb,
>faked the league into thinking AJ Feeley was a starter,
>restarted Jeff Garcia's career, faked the league into thinking
>Kevin Kolb is a starter, and that's before you get into Mike
>Vick.

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64. "rex grossman and christian ponder"
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lol

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70. "They're at it again. You must DVR ESPN First Take today lol"
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77. "So who is this mythical QB genius that grooms draft picks"
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into elite QBs?

now that we've identified the "problem" (according to McNabb)

what is the solution?

Is there a coach that turns draft picks into elite QBs?

Is Bill Walsh available?

Is RG3 setup better in IND?

what are we really saying here?

Shanny's going to ruin this kid?

From what I've seen

talent finds a way to shine




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82. "^^ ignoring the facts "
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RG3 is going to Washington where Shany will be his coach. the question is will Shanny mode the offense around the QB skill set or will force RG3 to run his offense. McNabb said he doesnt think so because Shanny has a history of not doing it.

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86. "disciplined, athletic, accurate passers thrive in Shanny's system"
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By the time Donovan got here he was none of those three things.

RGIII on the other hand has demonstrated that all three adjectives can be used when describing his play at quarterback.

So I don't know why Donovan thinks it's not going to work OTHER than the fact that he thinks Shanahan is a douche.

I'm obviously not objective on the subject, but if I were I would still say "yea, RGIII looks like a really solid fit in that offense" - an offense that relies on play action setting up the deepball, rollouts and bootlegs, QB draws inside the 10...RGIII has the build of Tim Tebow but plays like Drew Brees, an ON PAPER perfect fit for the Houston Texans style of offense Mike and Kyle run or are at least trying to run here.

  

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80. "Dono's really talkin bout KYLE"
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Yeah his daddy gonna back him up, but it's Kyle's system in place, which may be the old man's undoing at some point

Also, in fairness to Shanny, I don't believe he wanted McNabb, that was Snyder's last major personnel decision IMO. I think Shanny was content to work with Jason Campbell.


It's ironic that Donovan talks about system that is built around one's talents when Andy Reid probably took years off his career and made his job a hell of a lot harder with the lack of receiving personnel and his wildly disproportionate pass/run ratio

And the number one most important lesson:

Just because "he MAAD" don't necessarily mean "he WRONG"

  

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81. "I agree with this"
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>Also, in fairness to Shanny, I don't believe he wanted McNabb,
>that was Snyder's last major personnel decision IMO. I think
>Shanny was content to work with Jason Campbell.

and if it were the REAL Donkey Offense in WAS, Campbell might have stood a chance.

the Skins would also need a proper RB platoon too

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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87. "with talent, Kyle's system is cash."
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But, to be somewhat fair to Dono, he wasn't blessed with the weapons Matt Schaub has been blessed with. The Texans offense is so talent loaded it's unfair, and it goes past the skill position guys. Their O-line is fantastic.

When Donovan arrived we had MAYBE 1/8 as much offensive talent as the Texans? Maybe? And still McNabb didn't do his part. He threw balls in the dirt at a stunning rate, and he reportedly didn't know the playbook to the point he called audibles not based on what he read from defenses but just to switch the play to shit he knew.

He didn't have talent around him granted, but when he landed in Minnesota and had considerably more weapons he fell on his face even harder.

  

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88. "RE: with talent, Kyle's system is cash."
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He's an old QB, with certain deficiencies. You could say the same shit about Kurt Warner inbetween Rams and the Cardinals. Showing up on bottom feeders in turmoil and doing well at that age is easier said than done.


Ponder came in and honestly didn't look any better than Joe Webb.

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84. ""
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McPuke still talking...smh

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/30/mcnabb-im-the-most-unfairly-criticized-quarterback-in-nfl-history/


His TV clock will expire sooner than I anticipated.

He is the type of guy who goes all in when he has the 5th best hand at the table.

"hey, make this right mayne
stop at the light mayne,
my yester night thang got me hung off the night train "

  

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85. ""
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The comments on that article are hilarious. Has any NFL quarterback ever had his history revised as swiftly as McNabb's is being rewritten?

Eagles never did shit until McNabb shows up and balls out throwing to bums, now all of a sudden "he had a couple good years before becoming garbage"

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90. "you right"
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but motherfuckers are racing to be the loudest, proudest, faux-righteously indignant-est and wrong-est about it anyway.

  

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89. "People are rightfully hating the messenger, but there is some truth"
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There is an honest question to be asked: is Shanahan actually an offensive genius? Or was he just a great motivator, who was blessed with some of the best assistant coaches of the past two decades?

The case could easily be made for the latter.

  

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91. "did folks pick shanny apart like this before he came to DC?"
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92. "Circumstances have changed. He's getting exposed."
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I can only speak personally, but if the Texans have another playoff run and the Skins have another bad losing season this year (i.e. 6-10 or worse), the obvious question to be asked is - what has Mike Shanahan ever accomplished w/o Gary Kubiak?

  

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93. "so the answer is no?"
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that makes me like him even more bc i feel like folks pickin him apart only bc of where he coaches, and that makes me hungry for him to shut all these shit talking ppl up over the next few years

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94. "I don't care for Shanahan"
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But people are fooling themselves if they don't think that half the hate he catches isn't because he coaches in DC.

  

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101. "alex gibbs was the architect of that run game, and THAT's what "
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allowed shanny and elway to win them SBs.

the zone, one-cut running system that blew up with TD. but then continued to pay dividends for years after that with NNNs running the rock.

THAT shit coupled w/ a nice play action game put them way over the top.

i never thought of shanny as a genius.

that said, dono's right that they will try some square peg shit w/ rg3, but the difference is he's a rookie looking to make a splash. it could work. he knows he has to learn, etc.

mike and kyle weren't trying to change their offense for an old mcnabb and shit was surprisingly less plug an play than they thought, but, even acknowledging their dickheadedness, there ain't that many coaches who WOULD change their scheme for the new guy. especially the new, veteran guy.

ain't that many coaches, frankly, who are that good. most know what they know, and that's it.


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96. "Ls all around, just a publicity stunt, nothing to see here"
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Now that McNabb's playing career is done, how can he keep himself relevant?

Inject himself into relevant topics

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97. "I think he's gonna have a good career as an analyst/commentator"
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98. "yeah b/c ego has always been Dono's problem?"
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No.

  

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99. "yeah b/c Dono's always had a communications degree from SU"
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he was on the humble during his playing career

now he's stirring the pot because it will benefit his "broadcasting" career

not sure what ego has to do with it

it's a career choice

who's going to watch McNabb evade questions and offer no insight

which is what he did in the NFL

now that he's out of the NFL

he's got to make himself relevant

in 2 days he injected himself into

the NFL draft (RG3)

and Tebow

which put him in rotation in large media markets

like DC, NY, and of course, anytime his name pops up, PHI

he's just playing the part

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100. "actually in a way ego was one of his issues, his unwillingness"
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to accept any responsibility for any L he took, the unwillingness to set his own personal feelings/bruised-ego aside to work out certain situations instead leading to 'him or me' speeches along with a divided locker-room, his refusal to meet/work with his new teammates in any offseason workouts or mini-camps unless they came out to play catch with him in Arizona, his need to establish himself as a Quarterback eventually leading to him nearly completing disregarding the mobility that gave him an extra dimension as a collegiate player/early-NFL-MVP-candidate, him continuing to fashion himself on Brady/Manning level when he hadn't been a top-tier QB for at least the last five years of his Eagle career later leading into him not being able to put in the work necessary to succeed in his final two terrible stops after that, etc.

Please don't think that because McNabb was a politician in the press that there isn't plenty of ego inscribed into the 'Book Of Donovan'(c)Sam McNabb. It just manifested itself in different ways then it did a guy like Brett Favre.

  

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103. "^"
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107. "a minor issue"
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compared to how many games he won, how well he played, and how much unnecessary and unfair shit he took from the sports media and his own fans his entire career.

so yeah, ego was never a significant issue for Dono.

  

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102. "Shanny fires back"
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Mike Shanahan responds to Donovan McNabb
By Dan Steinberg
Sally Jenkins wrote a pretty comprehensive rebuttal to Donovan McNabb’s ESPN rip job in a column for Wednesday’s paper, filled with lots of stats and numbers.

But Jenkins also was the first person to ask Mike Shanahan himself what he thought of his former quarterback’s complaints. So, just in case you skimmed over that, let me quote Sally:

Asked to respond, Shanahan said: “I’d like to let the statistics speak for themselves. I think I can take the high road.”
And then there was this:

Let’s start by asking what the gauge of a successful relationship with a quarterback should be. “You can go by so many different stats,” Shanahan said. “The perception, the most basic one people look at is, ‘Did you win a Super Bowl at the end of the day?’ ”

Hmmm. I’m guessing Shanahan didn’t forget that Donovan McNabb has never won a Super Bowl. Just a guess.

  

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104. "sounding like a gay ass, onion-breathed, greasy lipped..."
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*takes off O_E helmet*

  

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105. "what a p*ssy thing to say"
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the sk*ns are going to have to reap what they sow...bad decision to hire shanny as coach.


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108. "it's actually the opposite of that"
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>"what a p*ssy thing to say"

  

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106. "lolol"
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>‘Did you win a Super Bowl at the end of the day?’ ”

McNabb fatality.

  

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109. "SHANNY STRIKES BACK (McNabb fat and lazy)"
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http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2012/05/shanahan-jabs-back-at-mcnabb.html

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110. "?"
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If you can't understand it without an explanation

you can't understand it with an explanation

  

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112. "yea, fuck him."
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113. "lmao"
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114. "Even in retirement"
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McNabb's a loser.

  

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115. "Damn, how was this not upped sooner? lmao"
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117. "Even i forgot about all this"
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and i regularly find myself shaking my head at his opinions on nfl network

  

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116. "too soon"
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>


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118. "on the low I think Shanny is doing Griffin no favors long-term"
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designed runs, even putting him out as a receiver once, zone/one-read passing options, limiting his attempts, etc.

These are all the marks of someone coaching for the 'right now' rather than him trying to farm-raise a QB from the ground-up like he did with Cutt Dawg (only for someone else to reap the reward) or rebuild a guy like he did with Elway (only for Elway to get all the credit there).

The Redskins have zero chance of going anywhere this season, everything should be focused on RGIII's long-term development which coaching for meager short-term gains will stunt.

And that's before we even get to the risk involved of having him get double-digit rushes each game & setting him up to be the first 1000 yard rusher at QB since Vick.

Of course, none of that really has anything to do with the reasons McNabb laid out so you can't really spin that his way but just saying.

  

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119. "i think the offense this year is part of the long term plan"
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the offensive line is not good enough to protect him in a traditional passing offense. in addition to pass pro being a long term problem, they tried that against the steelers and the offense stalled completely. the line needs the threat of the option to keep lbs from just teeing off. to me, the offense actually is safer for griffin this way. plus if shanny knows the line is weak, then giving griffin 30-40 attempts a game only puts him in more danger. he is already making good decisions with the ball in the 20-30 passes that he is getting. i'm not sure what benefit there would be in increasing that this season.

a lot of the problem has been with griffin himself. he wasnt sliding, getting out of bounds, or getting rid of the ball fast enough. he still holds on to the ball too long. after the concussion, he seemed to have learned how to avoid some of the unnecessary contact though.

shanny did say that lining griffin up at WR was dumb. i dont see that happening again.



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120. "he's making good decisions by not being asked to make many"
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That's doing him a disservice because he certainly seems sharp enough to handle that workload & long-term that's an impedment to his development.

His numbers look shinier than Luck but he's not being asked to do as much & overall the team isn't really improving at similar rates, that will be an issue down the line if Shanny isn't going to treat him the same way he treated earlier young QB prospects because he's older with a shorter leash plus because Griffin can run.

A rookie QB year if you're going to throw a dude in there to start immediately is about survival & long-term development, the only way to ensure those is by actually coaching him to be a pocket passer from jump like Reid did with McNabb.

1000-yard-rushers (much like Cam's rushing TD record last year) are a ruse in the end for a quarterback.

  

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121. "sorry, what's this idiotic argument?"
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a simplified offense for a rookie is a bad thing?

find another angle.

  

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123. "he's just in denial that our joke of a franchise"
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is gonna be better than his hometown losers for years to come

at least they got those rings while they had their window...

wait....

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122. "you shouldnt let ur jealousy show like that (c) guru"
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& yes, take it personal

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124. "damn, y'all mad for no damn reason when I'm complementing your QB"
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and think he's capable of handling more than he's being given plus think the focus in a non-playoff rookie season should be on making him a pocket-passer?

Okay, players.

You're right.

Who am I to question the brilliance of an Old Shan & Danny-led Plan?

Good luck.

  

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125. "worry about ur own team"
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im not mad, RG3 is MY QB

i have no reason to find an angle to hate on the skins bc i cant handle the fact that RG3 is too good to hate on & ima have to let it fester & redirect it while he repeatedly busts my sqads ass over the years

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131. "fix your face, nobody's 'worried' here, I'll comment where I see fit"
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128. "nobody believes your garbage except you."
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lol @ "I'm complementing your QB""

it's a backhanded compliment at best.

mostly you came up with an unfounded prediction, based on no actual evidence, which may or may prove true.

Something about how because RG3 is averaging 3 more carries per game than Dono in his first season (Look! Actual stats!), Shanny is trying to "win now"

Just stop.

Shanahan is a shitty GM and a mediocre coach, but grooming QBs is probably the one thing he's good at.

So yeah, find another angle, home skillet.

  

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132. "RE: nobody believes your garbage except you."
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>lol @ "I'm complementing your QB""
>
>it's a backhanded compliment at best.
>
if you're inclined towards being a curmudgeon perhaps.

>mostly you came up with an unfounded prediction, based on no
>actual evidence, which may or may prove true.
>
I actually didn't really 'predict' anything here, I stated my opinion based on what I've seen (granted I don't watch every Redskin game but I usually see all their divisonal games plus bits & pieces of others in a given season) & whether I think that strategy is sound in building towards a future since there is no present of any consequence.

then you got mad, which was weird but at the same time not surprising.

>Something about how because RG3 is averaging 3 more carries
>per game than Dono in his first season (Look! Actual stats!),
>Shanny is trying to "win now"
>
actually if you count McNabb as a rookie it's more than five rushes more per game or in his first full season closer to four.

If you wanna type 'Look! Actual stats! for effect, it helps to type out well, 'actual stats'.

Of course that 'actual stat' while still in line with my OG point avoids other variables like how many of the rushes are actually designed to be rushes, Reid/Dono working to master the offense in terms of various timing routes, throwing the football at close to or above league-average attempts, allowing the quarterback more freedom than essentially giving him a one-read option, etc.

>Just stop.
>
>Shanahan is a shitty GM and a mediocre coach, but grooming QBs
>is probably the one thing he's good at.
>
and yet he's 'grooming' this one differently than he has others, which I find curious.

>So yeah, find another angle, home skillet.

I don't need an 'angle' here, chief.

  

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137. "so how many rushes ARE designed rushes?"
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oh right, you have no idea.

You said Shanny is stunting RG3's growth.

Back off that claim if you'd like, but that sure as hell is a prediction of RG3's development.

  

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140. "RE: so how many rushes ARE designed rushes?"
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>oh right, you have no idea.
>
don't pretend to have that 'actual stat' on deck, I'd be willing to guess it's a ratio higher than the disparity in overall rushes a game though by a farely safe margin.

>You said Shanny is stunting RG3's growth.
>
I said he's treating RGIII differently than he has other QB's he's worked with and he has (maybe it's his son's influence, who knows), he's also giving him far less rope than his rookie peer QBs.

>Back off that claim if you'd like, but that sure as hell is a
>prediction of RG3's development.
>
no, it was a criticism of the Shanahans in the present day.

I 'predict' RGIII will be in DC a lot longer than Shanny anyway, who's to say how long Danny will keep paying The Rat seven million a year for six wins.

  

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127. "I think the short term success is more beneficial."
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RGIII now believes he can be a big time QB in the league. You build him up brick by brick going forward. No reason to think the playbook won't get more complicated as he gets more experience.


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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html

  

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129. "Nah, Bomb's already got it figured out."
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He can see the future.

  

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133. "^^^more salt & sarcasm from the world's maddest moderator"
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138. "pointing out your terrible theory doesn't actually make me"
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the mad one.

but that's your default response when you run out of ideas, so keep on.

  

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139. "who's to say since that seems to just be your default state in here"
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>the mad one.
>
>but that's your default response when you run out of ideas, so
>keep on.
>
Actually I stated my 'ideas' on this subject pretty clearly & you brought nothing to the table but sarcasm, fake stats, faux-outrage, etc.

  

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134. "RE: I think the short term success is more beneficial."
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>RGIII now believes he can be a big time QB in the league. You
>build him up brick by brick going forward. No reason to think
>the playbook won't get more complicated as he gets more
>experience.
>
I agree within reason but Shanny's gone too far the other way to me, it's a throwaway year & you might as well get a chance to grow even if there's a few additional pains here or there.
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135. "its not a throw away year when your trying to change a culture"
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right now, 8-8 would be big for this team given how young it is on offense, and where it has come from from a management perspective.

plus, there was no reason to think at the beginning of the year, when the strategy was laid out, that the defense would be this horrific. this offense with an average pass defense would easily make this a playoff team.



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136. "yeah the "throw away year" claim just shows he's ignorant & projecting"
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141. "I'm sorry were u under the impression this team is making the playoffs?"
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or that there's anything more important to its future than RGIII's development?

  

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142. "the Phillies won a game more recently than the Eagles"
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& yes there are playoff hopes for this team

u play the games to win

period

& ur whole theory is BS anyway, so none if this is even necessary

but ur furious & trying to play it cool

& its hilarious

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145. "you keep trying for an angle where I'm mad about the Skins"
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but really disgust with my own team has really nothing to do with anger over the Redskins ending up with 7 wins or whatever non-playoff-appearing scenario it's gonna be.

Just giving a football opinion.

Congrats on having a good young quarterback, I know what that feels like but I realize it's fairly new to y'all.

But nah, this ain't a playoff year. There's one team coming out of this shitshow division and we all know what one team that's gonna be.

  

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143. "I can't fathom how anyone could say he isn't developing."
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Like if you have eyes and you've watched him every week since week 1, you wouldn't say that. Just wouldn't.

The only way anyone could say Griffin isn't developing is if they were repeating heard what they heard an uninformed talking head say, read it on a blog or on a message board, or listened to DC talk radio after the Steelers or Panthers games.

That Dallas game was about as developed as a pro quarterback can look, and that was largely void of any of the gimmickry the Redskins were relying on the first 3-5 games of the season. That's an objective fact that anyone who's watched this team since their first game of this season would have to admit.

  

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144. "probably because no one actually did say that n/m"
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146. "^"
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147. "*Muttley laughs*"
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148. "i'll just put this right here"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPF0rEuJdPA


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