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"Better Call Saul Season 2"


  

          

Slippin Jimmy back

Starts Monday 2/15 on AMC

Season 1 just got put on Netflix if you need to catch up

Think there might be a marathon on AMC too



  

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I literally just watched Season 1.
Feb 12th 2016
1
Can't wait nm
Feb 12th 2016
2
just rewatched season 1 this week
Feb 12th 2016
3
Smoke on the water
Feb 13th 2016
4
I am so excited for this.
Feb 15th 2016
5
Some damn good acting in that first sequence
Feb 15th 2016
6
LOL, I knew some more minor BB characters would show up
Feb 15th 2016
7
He wasn't the only Easter Egg in that scene.
Feb 15th 2016
8
The tequila that Gus poisoned the Cartel with?
Feb 15th 2016
10
Salud!!
Feb 15th 2016
11
Who? What did I miss?
Feb 15th 2016
9
Walt blew Ken's car up in season 1
Feb 15th 2016
12
KEN WINS. I was howling lol
Feb 16th 2016
13
Shit, I'm an idiot, haha.
Feb 17th 2016
22
What causeed the abrupt change of heart?
Feb 16th 2016
14
he wants to be where Kim is
Feb 16th 2016
15
      Kim's not at Davis & Main though, right?
Feb 17th 2016
23
           where Kim is = legit working grownup job not running scams
Feb 17th 2016
25
           Agreed...
Feb 17th 2016
27
           right, but she wanted him to take that job and thought he was crazy for ...
Feb 17th 2016
34
PLAYUH
Feb 16th 2016
16
When he was going on bragging to nacho
Feb 18th 2016
37
      I think he invited Nacho to sit in it twice.
Feb 18th 2016
40
This was a fun start to the season.
Feb 16th 2016
17
One thing that threw me off
Feb 16th 2016
18
He was in the "this season on" so I'm sure he'll pop up very soon.
Feb 16th 2016
19
Cucumber water for customers only
Feb 16th 2016
20
lord i missed this shit.
Feb 17th 2016
21
So the black and white cold opener...
Feb 17th 2016
24
that's what I was thinking.
Feb 17th 2016
26
Yep. That's how they kicked off S1, too.
Feb 17th 2016
30
I dont think we're gonna get a continuation of Gene the Cinnabon manager
Feb 17th 2016
31
      Yeah it's definitely there as the contrast.
Feb 17th 2016
33
What will finally cause him to flip the switch?
Feb 17th 2016
28
let's get on with it though
Feb 17th 2016
29
      I disagree, I'm in no hurry to get there
Feb 17th 2016
32
           Yes this. What's the rush?
Feb 17th 2016
35
                to me, it nullifies Jimmy's character growth from season one
Feb 17th 2016
36
                     You bring up some fair points.
Feb 18th 2016
38
                     That's part of the bigger theme though
Feb 18th 2016
39
I'm more interested in Mike and his dealings than the transform to Saul
Feb 22nd 2016
41
LOL it's been 12 episodes. Chill.
Feb 23rd 2016
44
I'm anxious lol. The legit lawyer thing is a snore for me
Feb 23rd 2016
46
      Haha I feel you to a certain extent.
Feb 23rd 2016
47
      Meh, it took a REALLY long time for Walt to become a "legit" drug dealer
Feb 23rd 2016
48
           It seems as if Saul was established as a scumbag lawyer
Feb 24th 2016
53
I'm in no hurry but I definitely enjoy the Mike storyline part more
Feb 23rd 2016
49
i say when he loses Kim is the moment he'll flip the switch
Feb 24th 2016
51
OK *NOW* I'm with you.
Mar 14th 2016
143
Squat Cobbler. LOL
Feb 23rd 2016
42
that story was SO awesome
Feb 23rd 2016
45
What kind of pie? Like, apple?
Feb 23rd 2016
50
straight up tears everywhere,hilarious story!
Feb 24th 2016
60
me n wifey were DYING at that explanation.
Feb 27th 2016
64
I love this show. Favorite on TV. That is all.
Feb 23rd 2016
43
Really good.
Feb 24th 2016
54
loving where theyre going with Ignacio's backstory
Feb 24th 2016
52
I don't get Better Call Saul Season 2
Feb 24th 2016
55
Leave it at this
Feb 24th 2016
56
lol
Feb 24th 2016
57
Did you binge watch all of Breaking Bad
Feb 24th 2016
58
      Nah there was plenty of anticipation binge watching too.
Feb 24th 2016
59
The scenes with mike and nacho were great
Feb 25th 2016
61
It's wild how he essentially got where he is playing a video game charac...
Feb 25th 2016
62
I've vocally hated on Breaking Bad but
Feb 26th 2016
63
self saboteur
Mar 01st 2016
65
yup...i think we all do this to a degree
Mar 01st 2016
66
It's Chuck...
Mar 01st 2016
67
Davis & Main micro-managed the background color of their previous "ad"
Mar 01st 2016
68
I'm not even sure I properly understand Jimmy's reasoning....
Mar 01st 2016
69
      I think it's a couple of things:
Mar 01st 2016
70
      RE: I think it's a couple of things:
Mar 01st 2016
72
           It all comes back to Kim and Chuck
Mar 01st 2016
73
                Yea you're right I guess and I totally see what you're saying.
Mar 01st 2016
74
                     Another reason I'd say is that he knows Davis-Main is a bad fit for him
Mar 01st 2016
75
                          Yes this I can roll with.
Mar 01st 2016
76
      The next episode will consist
Mar 01st 2016
77
      He needed a successful test run to ensure their support...
Mar 02nd 2016
79
      .
Mar 06th 2016
93
Also, Saul named one of his fake holding companies "Ice Station Zebra"
Mar 01st 2016
71
Another fantastic episode; I love the dichotomy being set up
Mar 02nd 2016
78
I don't know about this at all.
Mar 02nd 2016
81
Sure, I could be wrong.
Mar 02nd 2016
83
      Oh man I didn't see it that way at all.
Mar 02nd 2016
84
           Oh, Chuck definitely had (has) doubts.
Mar 02nd 2016
85
                Yea disdain was the wrong word. But I still disagree here:
Mar 02nd 2016
86
                     We're on both sides of the same coin
Mar 02nd 2016
87
                          Yea we are for sure debating semantics.
Mar 02nd 2016
88
Yup. He has a need for coloring outside the lines
Mar 06th 2016
94
      Great observations.
Mar 06th 2016
95
      I think part of it is he prides himself on his creativity.
Mar 06th 2016
96
           I definitely thought about Chuck when Begley said
Mar 07th 2016
98
I was waiting for that to be Gus meeting Mike at the end...
Mar 02nd 2016
80
me too.
Mar 02nd 2016
82
Same here, that was probably the intent...
Mar 02nd 2016
89
I thought that too but vet probably wouldn't have a line on Gus
Mar 02nd 2016
90
      Yea great call...
Mar 02nd 2016
91
      yeah me too now that I think of it.
Mar 03rd 2016
92
      yeah i was trippin cause i thought the same thing...
Mar 07th 2016
97
What an entertaining episode
Mar 07th 2016
99
RE: What an entertaining episode
Mar 08th 2016
100
That's the third appearance of the gun guy (Jim Beaver)
Mar 08th 2016
101
right....that repeat business is important...n/m
Mar 09th 2016
108
yeah, that's right
Mar 09th 2016
120
wait was Crazy 8 the dude Tuco was giving the lie detector test?
Mar 09th 2016
111
      yeah, sitting down with Tuco and Nacho in the taco restaurant
Mar 09th 2016
119
      Yup. Also he had the gear from his dad's furniture store
Mar 09th 2016
123
      :: Weebay acting astounded with moving background gif ::
Mar 09th 2016
127
My recollection of Breaking Bad Season 1 are pretty hazy
Mar 08th 2016
102
I hate Chuck so much.
Mar 08th 2016
103
RE: My recollection of Breaking Bad Season 1 are pretty hazy
Mar 08th 2016
104
i understand Chuck's apprehension
Mar 09th 2016
109
he probably doesn't want Jimmy to hold it over on him
Mar 09th 2016
112
      I view it
Mar 09th 2016
116
He's definitely not wrong for his intentions.
Mar 09th 2016
110
RE: My recollection of Breaking Bad Season 1 are pretty hazy
Mar 09th 2016
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      RE: My recollection of Breaking Bad Season 1 are pretty hazy
Mar 09th 2016
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           RE: My recollection of Breaking Bad Season 1 are pretty hazy
Mar 09th 2016
128
Skinny Pete said he was locked up with Tuco
Mar 08th 2016
106
Watching Mike take these little jobs and work his way into the
Mar 08th 2016
105
I continue to love the small BB tie-ins/characters
Mar 08th 2016
107
i still wasn't completely sold on the partners' reaction
Mar 09th 2016
113
Yea this kinda touches on what I was getting at above.
Mar 09th 2016
114
RE: i still wasn't completely sold on the partners' reaction
Mar 09th 2016
115
      Agreed.
Mar 09th 2016
117
      yeah but they came off weak the way they reacted
Mar 10th 2016
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           RE: yeah but they came off weak the way they reacted
Mar 10th 2016
136
No one else is commenting
Mar 09th 2016
121
RE: No one else is commenting
Mar 09th 2016
122
RE: No one else is commenting
Mar 09th 2016
126
Mike's such a G. I also like how had intel on "Salamancas"
Mar 09th 2016
125
that whole scene was beyond belief in its awesomeness
Mar 09th 2016
129
      Big ass balls on both those guys.
Mar 09th 2016
130
           can't wait to find out
Mar 10th 2016
131
           He said he didn't want the cartels snooping around if Tuco died
Mar 10th 2016
132
           True, that's what he told Nacho....
Mar 10th 2016
135
                He was in all likelihood alluding to Vietnam in that scene
Mar 10th 2016
138
                     Great insight, yeah I was alluding to Vietnam.
Mar 10th 2016
139
           he def doesn't want to kill...
Mar 10th 2016
134
           RE: Big ass balls on both those guys.
Mar 10th 2016
137
           i think he's just a a recluctant criminal to begin with
Mar 10th 2016
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                "The lesson is, if you're gonna be a criminal, do your homework." (c) Mi...
Mar 10th 2016
141
                     i don't think that's what he meant by good or bad criminal
Mar 11th 2016
142
Hector. Salamanca.
Mar 15th 2016
144
Loved that scene.
Mar 15th 2016
145
He seemed awfully young, compared to his age in BB.
Mar 15th 2016
146
BCS is 2002.
Mar 15th 2016
147
strokes tend to age you
Mar 15th 2016
154
Have to wonder if Better Call Saul will 'go there'
Mar 15th 2016
148
      I mean...I don't see why they wouldn't ?
Mar 15th 2016
149
      OMG I didnt think of that!!!!
Mar 15th 2016
150
      hell yes! they better
Mar 15th 2016
151
      $5 says Mike did it or had something to do with it
Mar 15th 2016
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           ^^ I like this theory.
Mar 15th 2016
153
           holy shit.
Mar 15th 2016
156
                Haha you and dillinjah are more than likely right...
Mar 15th 2016
158
           I doubt it's anything that interesting
Mar 15th 2016
155
           Interesting to see you peoples
Mar 16th 2016
161
           Or it could be Gus....
Mar 16th 2016
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                do we have a year on when Hector killed Gus' "partner"?
Mar 16th 2016
163
                     1989
Mar 16th 2016
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                          oh wow. didn't realize it was that far back. thanks
Mar 16th 2016
166
“You have a tendency to overuse the words 'clearly' and 'obviously"
Mar 15th 2016
157
She reminded me of the uppity staffer from Veep S4...
Mar 16th 2016
159
i loved it because it's such a valid critique
Mar 16th 2016
164
Yup. Same actress!
Mar 18th 2016
175
The absolute worst
Mar 17th 2016
169
I rescind my prediction...
Mar 16th 2016
160
Easter egg from last week....
Mar 16th 2016
167
Yup. He also sold Walt the 38 snub
Mar 17th 2016
168
Wow your right!
Mar 17th 2016
170
this show is amazing
Mar 17th 2016
171
I've been rewatching BB while waiting for the new BCS each week.
Mar 19th 2016
179
i just loved Kim's "You don't save me, I save me" line
Mar 18th 2016
172
it was her "I am the one who knocks"
Mar 18th 2016
173
Do folks here think
Mar 18th 2016
174
I would hope not. That would be pretty suspect storytelling
Mar 18th 2016
176
      Ha I mean it's pretty clear that's what direction they're going
Mar 18th 2016
177
      yeah I bet something completely fucked happens to chuck's wife
Mar 19th 2016
178
           I agree, I bet it's more about Chuck's wife.
Mar 19th 2016
180
Aww shit. The murda twins
Mar 21st 2016
181
these guys really know how to do some creepy swimming pool scenes
Mar 21st 2016
182
That shit made my blood run cold.
Mar 22nd 2016
183
i just like that they can go for 20-30 mins w/o even mentioning Jimmy
Mar 22nd 2016
186
makes that time Mike visited twin in the hospital even more rewarding
Mar 22nd 2016
189
      good point
Mar 22nd 2016
190
      I completely forgot about this.
Mar 22nd 2016
191
           Gus was feeding the troops
Mar 22nd 2016
192
I understand principles and all that
Mar 22nd 2016
184
Yeah, not sure why the writers felt that needed to be in there
Mar 22nd 2016
185
      consistency...stand up guys gotta do standup things
Mar 22nd 2016
187
as much as I love this show, it hasnt been a show where I'm dying waitin...
Mar 22nd 2016
188
I don't anticipate this show like some others, BUT....
Mar 24th 2016
193
      ^^^
Mar 28th 2016
197
Prediction: Either Saul gets Mike off on the gun charge
Mar 27th 2016
194
Good point. Mike can't get caught up "officially" in any stuff
Mar 27th 2016
195
Laying the groundwork for mike getting with gus
Mar 28th 2016
196
Kim is gonna loosen up her grip on her life. all of it
Mar 28th 2016
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      RE: Kim is gonna loosen up her grip on her life. all of it
Mar 29th 2016
199
      nah i bet they just have a huge falling out...
Mar 29th 2016
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      Yea I'm really interested to see where this goes too.
Mar 29th 2016
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      RE: Kim is gonna loosen up her grip on her life. all of it
Mar 31st 2016
208
Fantastic episode and the best of the season so far
Mar 29th 2016
202
FWIW..I think you're a nice guy..
Mar 30th 2016
203
Mike doing this to get the girls away from trouble
Mar 30th 2016
204
I took it as her having some sort of PTSD
Mar 30th 2016
206
      Thats how I saw it too.
Mar 31st 2016
209
Anyone else waiting for him to do a Saul voicemail greeting?
Mar 30th 2016
205
Haha yep.
Mar 31st 2016
207
Anyone else sensing theres some dirt in Kim's past?
Mar 31st 2016
210
Great call. I didn't pick up on it at the time.
Mar 31st 2016
212
What got me was "Kansas Nebraska border",
Apr 04th 2016
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brilliant flashback scene of Jimmy, said so much about his character.
Mar 31st 2016
211
Yes. I was like see Chuck?.... Oh
Apr 02nd 2016
213
LOL that was LOW....
Apr 05th 2016
215
well remember in BB Gus was....
Apr 05th 2016
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That's another thing about this show that irks me a lil sometimes
Apr 05th 2016
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      Meh I don't think it totally loses you either way though.
Apr 05th 2016
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           Yeah. Everything in BCS is independent of BB so far
Apr 05th 2016
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           agreed on all of this
Apr 05th 2016
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           LOL reread what i wrote
Apr 06th 2016
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                Yea you said that but you also said this:
Apr 06th 2016
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                     and it's still true
Apr 06th 2016
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                          Wait - so what you're saying is ....
Apr 06th 2016
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                               Dude..i know you're bored too...it's gonna be ok...
Apr 06th 2016
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                                    Thanks man. I appreciate your kind words.
Apr 06th 2016
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I think they are transporting them in the tires
Apr 05th 2016
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      HA uhmm potentially cause they threatened to kill his granddaughter ?
Apr 05th 2016
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           I still don't see it. You would assume it's all good now...
Apr 05th 2016
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                It's part pride, but Mike needs to make money
Apr 05th 2016
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                Yea no. Sorry but....
Apr 05th 2016
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                     Mike knows what kind of people he's dealing with
Apr 05th 2016
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                          Yea I see what you're saying and don't necessarily disagree.
Apr 05th 2016
228
The preview of next week ticked me off so much.
Apr 05th 2016
227
Anyone else see the Kleinfeld sign and smile to themselves?
Apr 05th 2016
229
man, I thought Mike was making a sprinkler for his grandbaby
Apr 06th 2016
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lmao man me too...he fooled me at first
Apr 06th 2016
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And whatsername, the kid's mom, seemed to know it wasn't a sprinkler.
Apr 06th 2016
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Lol nah i knew it was gonna be some kind of mike contraption
Apr 06th 2016
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      Same.
Apr 06th 2016
240
      the very first time i saw it i thought sprinkler...
Apr 07th 2016
241
Holy shit! I want to say this episode was better than anything from BB
Apr 11th 2016
242
That scene with Kim, Chuck, & Jimmy...
Apr 11th 2016
243
yeah so great I'm watching it a 2nd time, back to back
Apr 11th 2016
244
yeah it was pretty good
Apr 12th 2016
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While i woulnd't go that far, it was really really really good
Apr 12th 2016
256
this is the show that absolves AMC of what TWD has become
Apr 11th 2016
245
Yeah, not really feeling bad for Chuck
Apr 12th 2016
246
This is where I'm at
Apr 12th 2016
247
Agreed
Apr 12th 2016
255
Agreed, but i gotta admit my heart dropped
Apr 13th 2016
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      Haha same here.
Apr 13th 2016
260
      same here...i felt kinda bad at that point
Apr 13th 2016
261
      I also just hope he doesn't die for the sake of the show.
Apr 13th 2016
264
      Yea you bring up a good point but ....
Apr 13th 2016
265
      I just hoped that catalyst would come later.
Apr 13th 2016
268
           Gotcha!
Apr 13th 2016
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      Also agreed. But I hope they give "Jimmy vs. Chuck" a rest for a bit
Apr 13th 2016
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           agreed...they kinda let the whole retirement home stuff go
Apr 14th 2016
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      Agreed. I blurted out "OH SHIT!" when it happened.
Apr 13th 2016
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i think Mike is going to put Hector Salamanca in the wheelchair
Apr 12th 2016
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If he does it, it will probably be indirect
Apr 12th 2016
249
Agree with you 100%
Apr 12th 2016
250
yes I was waiting for him to stroke out....
Apr 12th 2016
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oh wow good call
Apr 12th 2016
257
I assume Gus is the one who ends up causing the stroke.
Apr 13th 2016
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      Yeah, I could see Mike stealing/switching the meds as a means...
Apr 13th 2016
276
Mike's daughter-in-law and grand-daughter
Apr 12th 2016
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Yeah, it's one thing to anonymously rob a truck
Apr 12th 2016
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      problem is the driver saw Mike's car....
Apr 13th 2016
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           It wasn't his regular car...
Apr 13th 2016
263
                ^ correct.
Apr 13th 2016
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                     OMG thats right it wasnt haha.
Apr 13th 2016
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I put $5 on it a few posts up
Apr 12th 2016
258
This scene from Breaking Bad...
Apr 13th 2016
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      Brilliant.
Apr 13th 2016
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      oh shit
Apr 14th 2016
280
Found this on Reddit...
Apr 13th 2016
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Haha that is genius.
Apr 13th 2016
272
i'm slow...i don't get it
Apr 14th 2016
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RE: i'm slow...i don't get it
Apr 14th 2016
284
Super cool, but I'd be more convinced if they did it in order.
Apr 14th 2016
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      Haha I thought the exact same thing.
Apr 14th 2016
283
      It's also less impressive
Apr 14th 2016
285
Chuck and Jimmy arer SO similar
Apr 14th 2016
279
For the folks that are all anti-Chuck
Apr 14th 2016
286
Yea but I think we've been given enough info about Jimmy...
Apr 14th 2016
287
We've seen Jimmy help Chuck
Apr 14th 2016
288
Great points. Agree 100%.
Apr 15th 2016
289
Don't forget last season.
Apr 15th 2016
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Jimmy has his ways, no doubt
Apr 15th 2016
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      RE: Jimmy has his ways, no doubt
Apr 15th 2016
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           I agree to disagree
Apr 15th 2016
301
Chuck is smart enough to go at it a different way.
Apr 15th 2016
294
he's petty & jealous
Apr 19th 2016
324
just finished the penultimate episode and watching the finale
Apr 19th 2016
331
One subtle detail I don't think anyone pointed out...
Apr 15th 2016
291
i thought he did tell Chuck about Jimmy...
Apr 15th 2016
295
Yea, I'm pretty sure he did too
Apr 15th 2016
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He actually did.
Apr 15th 2016
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      And he didn't correct him.
Apr 15th 2016
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           Nah I think you might be remembering wrong
Apr 15th 2016
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                I need to rewatch it, but I'm fairly sure he didn't clarify.
Apr 15th 2016
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                Just rewatched both scenes.
Apr 15th 2016
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                     still doesn't make Chuck less of a jerk
Apr 18th 2016
303
                          Great, I agree, that's never been my argument.
Apr 18th 2016
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                               Neither side gets a pass from me
Apr 18th 2016
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                                    Right - same here.
Apr 18th 2016
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*3mins of silence* ......Don't (c) Bryson Tiller
Apr 18th 2016
307
I actually nodded off during that scene
Apr 19th 2016
329
That wasn't no gotdamn season finale
Apr 18th 2016
308
Major cliffhangers in both Mike and Saul's stories
Apr 18th 2016
310
Cliffhangers but no payoffs
Apr 18th 2016
311
      Yep. You nailed it.
Apr 19th 2016
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           agreed, pretty disappointed in this season
Apr 19th 2016
318
           Agree with everything you said.
Apr 19th 2016
319
           oh Jesus fuckin Christ
Apr 19th 2016
325
           Who's "y'all"? Do I have a history of turning on shows...
Apr 19th 2016
326
           I vehemently disagree with this.
Apr 19th 2016
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                I was hyperbolic for sure.
Apr 19th 2016
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                as a Netflix person, I agree with all this.
May 31st 2017
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Agreed.
Apr 19th 2016
314
agreed....loved the season but hated this ending
Apr 19th 2016
323
LOL we're all just mad we didn't see Gus, and the birth of Saul
Apr 19th 2016
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      Haha nah I honestly didn't care whether Gus showed or not.
Apr 19th 2016
338
WTF JIMMY?!
Apr 18th 2016
309
i mean, i KNEW it was coming.... everyone except Jimmy knew
Apr 19th 2016
315
Brilliantly played by Chuck. Absolutely brilliant.
Apr 19th 2016
312
I felt so bad for Chuck
Apr 19th 2016
320
He out slippin' jimmy'd jimmy
Apr 19th 2016
333
So the note is Gus right?
Apr 19th 2016
313
Yeah, that's the only thing that would make sense
Apr 19th 2016
317
i'm thinking Gus too
Apr 19th 2016
322
RE: So the note is Gus right?
Apr 19th 2016
330
Wow.....I guess that can't be a coincidence lol
Apr 20th 2016
344
LMAO! Only Gilligan and crew would do that stuff.
Apr 20th 2016
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      RE: LMAO! Only Gilligan and crew would do that stuff.
Apr 24th 2016
362
99.9% chance it's gus
Apr 19th 2016
332
I hope so...
Apr 19th 2016
336
Has to be. No one else would make any sense.
Apr 19th 2016
341
fuck.Chuck.
Apr 19th 2016
321
Probably only me, but...kind of a boring season.
Apr 19th 2016
335
Chuck is the biggest piece of shit on this show.
Apr 19th 2016
337
fuck chuck
Apr 19th 2016
339
Yeah, Chuck is clearly a horrible person
Apr 19th 2016
340
BTW, that abandoned house wasn't the same one where...
Apr 19th 2016
342
i thought it would be, but i swer the house in BB was white
Apr 20th 2016
348
      I dont remember all the hills around the house
Apr 21st 2016
356
"Don't."(c) G. Fring !!!!!!!!
Apr 20th 2016
343
"I miss the mail room"
Apr 20th 2016
345
^ YES! That was awesome.
Apr 20th 2016
347
BTW, Chuck's tape wouldn't lead to criminal charges/conviction...
Apr 20th 2016
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RE: BTW, Chuck's tape wouldn't lead to criminal charges/conviction...
Apr 20th 2016
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RE: BTW, Chuck's tape wouldn't lead to criminal charges/conviction...
Apr 20th 2016
351
      ^ all great points re: Jimmy's defense
Apr 20th 2016
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           That's only if you look at it as a cliffhanger
Apr 20th 2016
354
                All fair.
Apr 20th 2016
355
                i can see Chuck going to the police
Apr 21st 2016
359
he could just make it public
Apr 23rd 2016
361
yeah my first thought was that Jimmy could just deny it
Apr 25th 2016
363
i feel like this was a season expressly made for binging
Apr 20th 2016
352
right now season for season I think this is better than Breaking Bad
Apr 21st 2016
357
it kinda does.
Apr 21st 2016
358
it was fucking awesome as a Netflix experience.
May 31st 2017
368
After it ended i went back and replayed the scene of Chuck on the gurney
Apr 22nd 2016
360
This season is now on Netflix
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I'm caught up and I'm with Ryan M. this shit was meh
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1. "I literally just watched Season 1."
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So great. The penultimate episode with the confrontation between Jimmy and Chuck was devastating, epic-level television.

Can't wait for Season 2.

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2. "Can't wait nm"
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3. "just rewatched season 1 this week"
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Very much ready for season 2.

The Mike backstory episode was one of my favorite episodes of any show, ever.

Loved the way season 1 ended with Chuck screwing over Jimmy seemingly setting up the "transformation" from Jimmy attempting to be a legit lawyer into shady ass Saul.

  

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4. "Smoke on the water"
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What did he say to mike at the end? Something about the million dollars that he gave back, like something was stopping me from taking it, but I'll never let it stop me again. It was his brother or the thought of making him proud that was making him try to do the right thing. Once he found out about Chuck fucking him over, that barrier or moral boundary collapsed. It will be interesting to see where that takes him.

Also Jonathan Banks killed that episode. I remember just thinking wow after it ended. He deserved the emmy.

  

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5. "I am so excited for this."
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Totally forgot about it til I just came across the season 1 marathon by accident. Season 1 was so damn good. Agree with everyone in here about the Mike episode and about the penultimate episode with Jimmy/Chuck. This shit is gonna be good.

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6. "Some damn good acting in that first sequence"
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I'll be mad as hell if that's the only thing we get to see of the "present" this season

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7. "LOL, I knew some more minor BB characters would show up"
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But I wasn't expecting that guy.

  

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8. "He wasn't the only Easter Egg in that scene."
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"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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10. "The tequila that Gus poisoned the Cartel with?"
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11. "Salud!!"
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9. "Who? What did I miss?"
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12. "Walt blew Ken's car up in season 1"
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13. "KEN WINS. I was howling lol"
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22. "Shit, I'm an idiot, haha."
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I recognized Ken as the blown-up-car guy at the gas station, but for some reason I was placing him back in Better Call Saul S1, not Breaking Bad.

I kept insisting to my wife that he was that dude, but she was confused as hell because she never saw BB.

Whoops

  

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14. "What causeed the abrupt change of heart?"
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It's like slippin' Jimmy was ready to pounce and suddenly just decided to grow up and change his life in 2 seconds. He stared at Marco's ring for a second, but that didn't seem to be it.

Also, i dug the tie in with the emergency exit sign in the opening scene, and his need to flip the switch in the closing scene.

I thought they went way too extra on Pryce's ride, but it was still pretty funny

  

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15. "he wants to be where Kim is"
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Once he realized that scheme they ran on Ken was just a one shot deal to her, he went back.

  

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23. "Kim's not at Davis & Main though, right?"
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My memory of last season is hazy, but IIRC Chuck didn't want Jimmy at HHM so Howard opened the door for him at Davis & Main.

But you're right, he definitely took the job because of Kim. It's going to be interesting to see how he's going to slip back into Slippin Jimmy. And I love how we're into the second season yet Jimmy still seems a ways from becoming "Saul Goodman".

  

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25. "where Kim is = legit working grownup job not running scams"
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27. "Agreed..."
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I just wanted to point out the distinction between D&M versus HHM.

  

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34. "right, but she wanted him to take that job and thought he was crazy for ..."
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He tried to get her to join him in the "Slippin Jimmy" life. Remember last year he tried to get her to join him when he bought that building and had her office all ready for her. Also, he had Mike steal 1.6 million from the Kettlemans and then he turned it in, so that they would admit guilt and accept Kim's plea deal(after she had "blown it" and was catching shit from Howard). He's trying to stay close to her with all of his moves.

  

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16. "PLAYUH"
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y'all, I'm STILL laughing.

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37. "When he was going on bragging to nacho"
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3 climate zones

One woman in a bikini, one in a winter coat, both could be comfortable

Nacho was like, oh so you're riding around with 2 women in the back?

Smh lol

  

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40. "I think he invited Nacho to sit in it twice."
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17. "This was a fun start to the season."
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I love watching Slippin' Jimmy hustle people.

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18. "One thing that threw me off"
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was that Michael McKean (sp?) was listed in the opening credits, but wasn't in the first episode. I am curious how he'll fit into this second season.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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19. "He was in the "this season on" so I'm sure he'll pop up very soon."
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20. "Cucumber water for customers only"
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Not ready to flip the switch yet

  

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21. "lord i missed this shit."
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HOW DID I NOT KNOW THAT WAS KEN??
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24. "So the black and white cold opener..."
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this season and last season. We're seeing Jimmy post-Breaking Bad right?

No idea how long this show is going to go, but it would be sweet if they continued exploring Cinnabon Jimmy past just these black and white scenes.

  

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26. "that's what I was thinking."
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...and hoping.

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30. "Yep. That's how they kicked off S1, too. "
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31. "I dont think we're gonna get a continuation of Gene the Cinnabon manager"
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It's just there as a contrast to Slippin' Jimmy/James McGill/Saul Goodman

I think Gene's life is supposed to remain mundane, and we'll probably only get those windows into it to open up seasons.. then again, with this show's universe you never know

  

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33. "Yeah it's definitely there as the contrast."
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I'm just holding out hope that the little "SG WAS HERE" nugget that they gave us could blossom into an episode or two at the end of the series. I really love the writers' patience with the slow burn.

  

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28. "What will finally cause him to flip the switch?"
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Seems like he's still making decisions based on what someone else thinks. In this season, it's Kim instead of Chuck. He's willing to hold it together as long as he thinks there's a chance with her.

A failed relationship with Kim might be what finally causes his to flip.

  

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29. "let's get on with it though"
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I don't want another season of more identity struggles in a different office. The premiere was pretty boring so hopefully the story starts moving along faster. I imagine there will be a lot to tell once he does flip that switch.

  

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32. "I disagree, I'm in no hurry to get there"
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I loved season 1 and enjoyed this first episode of season 2, so there may be more to explore with James McGill. We know where he's going to end up, so I'm just going to enjoy the ride.

  

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35. "Yes this. What's the rush?"
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I think these characters and the story arcs have been wildly interesting to this point. They've done a fantastic job. We saw plenty of Saul Goodman in Breaking Bad. I don't need them to rush storylines to go back to that place just yet.

Don't get me wrong, I'll be happy to get Saul when we get there I just don't think it's necessary to rush.

Sepinwall interviewed co-creator Peter Gould about this very thing and why they decided that hitting the brakes was better for the story/show:

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/why-jimmy-changed-his-mind-in-the-better-call-saul-premiere

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36. "to me, it nullifies Jimmy's character growth from season one"
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Last season was about him not being sure if he was in the right field, testing his own ethics and morality, and coming out from under the shadow of his big brother. He solved all those problems in the finale and triumphantly declared he's a new man.

I didn't expect him to open up shop as Saul in episode one of season two, but the premiere definitely takes a step back in the story and makes season one unimportant. He's now in a new job and unsure if he's in the right field, testing his own ethics and morality, and living under the shadow of Kim.

Reading that interview proves my point. He's talking about how after last season's finale Jimmy is closer to being Saul and ready to "throw off the bounds of conventional morality". Then they remembered Kim and felt the need to have Jimmy stay where he is because of her. Seems like an oversight on their part and I'd rather they dealt with that last season instead of going back in the story now to address it.

  

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38. "You bring up some fair points."
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I just don't know that it bothers me as much as it does you. I don't necessarily think that we're going to be watching another full season of Jimmy McGill, I trust that they will do right by the story and have him transition when it feels natural. In other words I wouldn't look at episode 1 as being indicative of where the whole season is going. Could be wrong but that's just my guess. And I enjoyed episode 1 enough to let the perceived "step back" go a little bit.

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39. "That's part of the bigger theme though"
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...He's slowly losing these things that keep him from becoming Saul

...First season he was driving himself crazy trying to please Chuck, and realized it was never gonna happen.....

...Now he's trying to please ole girl (I forget her name right now), because at his core, he's just a man trying to please the people he loves, while trying to find a balance for himself....

...I really don't see this as a step back at all... He can't be Slippin Jimmy forever, but needs to figure out how to combine everything he knows and can do now, with Slippin Jimmy to create Saul...which is basically what he's trying to figure out during the course of the series....

He could stay Slippin Jimmy, but he doesn't wanna do it alone, and it's like he realized the value of an upgrade professionally.....

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41. "I'm more interested in Mike and his dealings than the transform to Saul"
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I'm starting to agree with what people above have been saying.
This whole in and out, James McGill/Slippin Jimmy thing has gone on too long. Just flip the switch already

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44. "LOL it's been 12 episodes. Chill."
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>I'm starting to agree with what people above have been
>saying.
>This whole in and out, James McGill/Slippin Jimmy thing has
>gone on too long. Just flip the switch already

12 episodes is 1 season of a typical show like this one. Relax. They'll get there.

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46. "I'm anxious lol. The legit lawyer thing is a snore for me"
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I'm bout that action.

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47. "Haha I feel you to a certain extent."
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Being that it's a 10 episode season, I even found myself kind of "WTFing" the episode last nite til we got to the Pie Squatting shit or whatever it was called. But I find the characters and story so interesting I'm not *too* annoyed by it. Seems like they're getting somewhere now.

And, fuck Chuck, man. That dude is the worst.

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48. "Meh, it took a REALLY long time for Walt to become a "legit" drug dealer"
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In terms of episodes/seasons that is. He spent just about all of Season 1, 2, and most of 3 fighting against it.

So yeah, I'm not in a rush here.

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53. "It seems as if Saul was established as a scumbag lawyer"
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for a while by the time Jesse and Walter walked into his strip mall law office, so it should be interesting how long it'll take for Jimmy to slip into the Saul role. I would imagine even if Jimmy tilts to the Soul Goodman role, it may take him some time to become the successful scumbag lawyer he was when he was introduced into the Breaking Bad universe, so even if he goes corrupt this season, the show can take some time to establish him to the level he reached on Breaking Bad.

I'm hoping the show does a good job establishing how Jimmy/Saul runs into the characters played by Lavell Crawford and Bill Burr.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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49. "I'm in no hurry but I definitely enjoy the Mike storyline part more"
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And as long as Saul is dabbling like this week I'm completely fine with everything else.

  

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51. "i say when he loses Kim is the moment he'll flip the switch "
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already set up that way with that last scene on the bed

  

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143. "OK *NOW* I'm with you."
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Still not necessarily for him to become Saul but for them to just move the fucking story. Halfway through the season now and I feel like they've accomplished literally nothing.

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42. "Squat Cobbler. LOL"
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45. "that story was SO awesome"
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loved dude's oblivious reactions to all this potential disaster around him

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50. "What kind of pie? Like, apple?"
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60. "straight up tears everywhere,hilarious story!"
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64. "me n wifey were DYING at that explanation."
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43. "I love this show. Favorite on TV. That is all."
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n/m

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54. "Really good."
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Breaking Bad is the shit, but I think up to this same point in BB that Better Call Saul has been more interesting to me.

While I do acknowledge though that the world-building in BCS has already been established in BB, the focus on Odenkirk is so fucking good.

  

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52. "loving where theyre going with Ignacio's backstory"
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remember in BB when Walt and Jessie have SAul out in the desert and Saul says " its not me you want, its Ignacio!"


yeah lot more to come from this character

  

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55. "I don't get Better Call Saul Season 2"
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I wasnt a big fan of Breaking Bad though either but season 1 of this show was just all over the place and not that interesting and this season so far looks to be more of the same. it's just a pointless show so far.

  

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56. "Leave it at this"
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>I don't get Better Call Saul Season 2 I wasnt a big fan of Breaking Bad >though either...

and not this:

>it's just a pointless show so far.


Cause it's far from pointless

  

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57. "lol"
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>I wasnt a big fan of Breaking Bad though either but season 1
>of this show was just all over the place and not that
>interesting and this season so far looks to be more of the
>same. it's just a pointless show so far.

  

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58. "Did you binge watch all of Breaking Bad"
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or did you watch the episodes as they aired on AMC? I would imagine binge watching the show removes the patience required to watch a show where it appears nothing is happening in terms of action.

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59. "Nah there was plenty of anticipation binge watching too. "
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This dude's just insane.

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61. "The scenes with mike and nacho were great"
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Nacho's becoming my favorite character

Looks like a school bus for 6 year old pimps

  

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He was a successful theater actor and had several one-off roles on TV, but after his motion capture work for Far Cry 3 he's been a steady working actor. He's the only example of that I can think of so far, but it's cool to see something like that taking place.


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63. "I've vocally hated on Breaking Bad but"
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I love this show.

Really fantastic characters.

i still blame hip-hop.

  

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65. "self saboteur"
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i can't blame him, that life just looks boring until he he starts to do "his" thing....

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66. "yup...i think we all do this to a degree"
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when you're not really happy you will do little things to sabotage that life whether you realize it or not...in relationships...work...etc.

It's kinda hard watching shows like this cause you know he's going to fuck his life up little by little until it all goes to shit. Even knowing where this leads I hate seeing it all crumble little by little

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67. "It's Chuck..."
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He's in his head. Doing everything to prove him wrong while proving him right.


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68. "Davis & Main micro-managed the background color of their previous "ad""
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No way they were going to approve Jimmy's vision.

That said, I doubt he gets fired. Yet.

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69. "I'm not even sure I properly understand Jimmy's reasoning...."
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for going rogue on that commercial. I mean he walked all the way to Davis' office to present it to him, why not just show it to him ? Maybe I'm missing something big or a nuance but it's not like it would've been all that difficult for him to just get the OK before putting it out there. Seems to be kind of lazy writing IMO, unless of course I *am* missing something stoyline-wise.

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70. "I think it's a couple of things:"
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1. I think he wanted to prove he could take initiative and be successful. He also wanted to "show" Chuck and the rest that he could get more clients and do his job well without "bending" the law.

2. I think Jimmy wanted to look good in Kim's eyes. Kim had already thought that Davis & Main had signed off on the ad (It's not clear whether he told her that they had and she just assumed that they had since the ad had been shot). Jimmy didn't want to risk running the ad by Clifford and then the firm drastically changing it or outright refusing to do it, which could change her opinion of him.

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72. "RE: I think it's a couple of things:"
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>1. I think he wanted to prove he could take initiative and be
>successful. He also wanted to "show" Chuck and the rest that
>he could get more clients and do his job well without
>"bending" the law.

Hm but even though he wasn't bending the law, he was still kind of going against the grain with no real reason to do it (IMO, at least). He still would've reached this goal had the commercial been tweaked and released, and he would've had full approval.


>2. I think Jimmy wanted to look good in Kim's eyes. Kim had
>already thought that Davis & Main had signed off on the ad
>(It's not clear whether he told her that they had and she just
>assumed that they had since the ad had been shot). Jimmy
>didn't want to risk running the ad by Clifford and then the
>firm drastically changing it or outright refusing to do it,
>which could change her opinion of him.

OK that last point I guess I can buy. I don't think they really fleshed that out very well, though, I suppose. Cause I still think he could've achieved all the above goals without going behind the back of the partners to release the commercial. Just seems stupid and lazy rather than being a necessary jab to the man to get the job done, if that makes sense. For some reason I'm just not really buying it.

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73. "It all comes back to Kim and Chuck"
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>Hm but even though he wasn't bending the law, he was still
>kind of going against the grain with no real reason to do it
>(IMO, at least). He still would've reached this goal had the
>commercial been tweaked and released, and he would've had full
>approval.

After the first firm meeting, when he gets challenged by Chuck and ends up telling Kim that he back-door solicited the responses, she says to him, "You're great at this job, but you don't have to cheat to do so" (or something to that effect). And he wants to prove to Chuck that he's not circumventing the law. So he comes up with a way to do his job well without cheating. He knows the way these potential clients think, so he crafts an ad that directly appeals to them. Then he shows the commercial to Kim, and she loves it, and he doesn't want to risk losing that "approval" by having the commercial gutted or not run at all.


>OK that last point I guess I can buy. I don't think they
>really fleshed that out very well, though, I suppose.

I think they fleshed it out well enough by look on Jimmy's face when Kim tells him that she loves the commercial and asks, "So Davis and Main approved this?" You can tell he doesn't want to say, "Well, they haven't yet, but they hopefully will!" He wants to prove that he did what she asked him to do and everyone is happy with him.

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74. "Yea you're right I guess and I totally see what you're saying."
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I guess I just don't really buy it, is all.

But you're definitely right about it all being about Kim and Chuck.

I'll have to watch the ep again I think.

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75. "Another reason I'd say is that he knows Davis-Main is a bad fit for him"
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He may have once thought that what he always wanted was a job at a firm like that, but after the blow-up with Chuck and the trip to Cicero, he doesn't see himself as that type of lawyer anymore. He may not see himself as Saul Goodman, criminal-attorney, yet, but it seems like he sees himself as the type of lawyer who will bend the rules in order to best serve his clients.

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76. "Yes this I can roll with."
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He's just slowly recognizing that the straight-laced style isn't really his bag and he, to quote Jimmy himself from an upcoming episode, prefers to "roll around in the dirt a little."

That's definitely true.

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77. "The next episode will consist"
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of the Jimmy McGill character having to explain himself in front of the board, so hopefully the show will divulge why he didn't show the video to his boss first.

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79. "He needed a successful test run to ensure their support..."
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They would have chopped up the commercial or flat out rejected it if he asked for approval.
If instead he first proves that it worked very well, they are unlikely to touch it.

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93. "."
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71. "Also, Saul named one of his fake holding companies "Ice Station Zebra""
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in "Breaking Bad."

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78. "Another fantastic episode; I love the dichotomy being set up"
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Last season Chuck's history with Jimmy clouded him from seeing Jimmy's earnest attempts at going straight.

This season Jimmy's attempts at going straight will cloud Chuck from seeing that Jimmy still hasn't changed.

It is curious why Jimmy didn't immediately go to Cliff with the commercial for approval, but like someone mentioned above it'll surely come out at the meeting. Before the call from Cliff, I was thinking his misgivings with the tape was some sort of hollowness (or lack of a rush) from doing something without a con. I'm pretty sure I'm wrong in the case of the commercial, but that will probably end up being true down the line (in whatever ends up being the final straw between Jimmy and Kim).

  

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81. "I don't know about this at all."
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>This season Jimmy's attempts at going straight will cloud
>Chuck from seeing that Jimmy still hasn't changed.

Chuck doesn't seem to be willing to give Jimmy the benefit of the doubt ever, at all, in any circumstance. I mean I get what you're getting at with the storyline I just don't think that Chuck's thoughts about Jimmy are gonna be clouded at all.

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83. "Sure, I could be wrong."
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But in the last two episodes we've seen Chuck "challenge" Jimmy twice and twice we've seen him come away either impressed (when Kim reassured Jimmy) or rebuffed.

If the show continues on that theme, then eventually Jimmy is going to earn Chuck's trust, only to somehow break it for good. I mean, we still know he's going to be Saul Goodman... the only question is what's going to happen to bring him there.

  

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84. "Oh man I didn't see it that way at all."
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>But in the last two episodes we've seen Chuck "challenge"
>Jimmy twice and twice we've seen him come away either
>impressed (when Kim reassured Jimmy) or rebuffed.

I absolutely did not come away from either episode thinking Chuck had anything other than disdain and doubt in his mind regarding Jimmy's answers. His facial expressions, to me, said "he's lying to us"

Just the way I read his looks, of course. I could be wrong as well.

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85. "Oh, Chuck definitely had (has) doubts."
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But I don't think he had disdain. Chuck still cares for his brother, he just doesn't trust his ethics. So when he heard Jimmy was hired by Davis & Main and Howard's positive opinion of him, Chuck had to see for himself.

When he first showed up in the boardroom, Jimmy was visibly shaken but Kim's reassurance helped him keep his composure. Then when Chuck directly challenged Jimmy's client service methods, both Cliff and Howard seemed satisfied with Jimmy's answer. Howard still deferred to Chuck, but it was clear that Jimmy had absolved himself of further scrutiny (for now). And Jimmy's interruption helped to clear any further doubts (more for Kim's sake, but still).

Again, I could be wrong (especially in this next episode), but it feels like Jimmy is slowly winning over Chuck. What's interesting is that it looks like Kim is assuming Chuck's role from last season; she wants to see him succeed legitimately, but she can't help but see through his methods.

  

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86. "Yea disdain was the wrong word. But I still disagree here:"
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>Howard still deferred to Chuck, but it was clear that
>Jimmy had absolved himself of further scrutiny (for now).

Chuck's reaction to Howard's "Chuck, is that good with you?" (paraphrasing) was a half shrug and silence. It didn't appear to me that he was at all convinced that Jimmy was doing things straight. I read that reaction to say "yea he vocally covered himself but I still don't believe a word he's saying". At no point did I think "Jimmy's winning him over," or think his reaction said "I'm convinced!"

In other words, his reaction to me said that he was willing to drop the subject for that moment because continuing to press Jimmy after he gave what everyone else saw as a great explanation would make *HIM* (Chuck) look bad, so he'll save his ongoing vocal disapproval and doubts for another day.

We'll see how it progresses of course. But we're definitely seeing Chuck's ongoing reactions to Jimmy far, far differently.

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87. "We're on both sides of the same coin "
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I'm not saying Chuck is anywhere near convinced yet, I'm just saying that Jimmy is doing and saying the right things in front of him so far. I'm guessing over the course of the season Jimmy will slowly win over Chuck, not right now.


>Chuck's reaction to Howard's "Chuck, is that good with you?"
>(paraphrasing) was a half shrug and silence. It didn't appear
>to me that he was at all convinced that Jimmy was doing things
>straight. I read that reaction to say "yea he vocally covered
>himself but I still don't believe a word he's saying". At no
>point did I think "Jimmy's winning him over," or think his
>reaction said "I'm convinced!"

Semantics, but there's a huge spectrum between "not at all convinced" and "I'm convinced". Like I said, it'll be a slow burn in fits and starts, not all at once. They are brothers, so that's a lot of history to overcome.

>In other words, his reaction to me said that he was willing to
>drop the subject for that moment because continuing to press
>Jimmy after he gave what everyone else saw as a great
>explanation would make *HIM* (Chuck) look bad, so he'll save
>his ongoing vocal disapproval and doubts for another day.

I agree. He's going to continue challenging Jimmy, and with good reason. I just predict that Jimmy is going to handle himself well and will eventually convince Chuck.

>We'll see how it progresses of course. But we're definitely
>seeing Chuck's ongoing reactions to Jimmy far, far
>differently.

Perhaps, time will tell. Regardless, credit to the writers for crafting such nuanced characters. Maybe it's recency bias, but I've been enjoying Jimmy's journey more than Walt's so far.

  

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88. "Yea we are for sure debating semantics."
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And you nailed it. Credit to the writers for creating nuanced characters that have us literally debating body language. I don't know that I've ever done that regarding a show before. Haha.

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94. "Yup. He has a need for coloring outside the lines"
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> Before the call from
>Cliff, I was thinking his misgivings with the tape was some
>sort of hollowness (or lack of a rush) from doing something
>without a con. I'm pretty sure I'm wrong in the case of the
>commercial, but that will probably end up being true down the
>line (in whatever ends up being the final straw between Jimmy
>and Kim).

Jimmy can't do anything 100% by the book. It's too suffocating for him. Even something tiny, like that switch that said "do not turn off" or not drinking coconut water at the nail salon, there has to be a rebellious spirit, or slippin' jimmmy angle in everything he does.

  

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95. "Great observations."
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>Jimmy can't do anything 100% by the book. It's too suffocating
>for him. Even something tiny, like that switch that said "do
>not turn off" or not drinking coconut water at the nail salon,
>there has to be a rebellious spirit, or slippin' jimmmy angle
>in everything he does.

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96. "I think part of it is he prides himself on his creativity."
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Law is perfect for this since it can be interpreted in so many different ways, then on top of that he thrives on interpreting it in his own way.

This is what I was getting at in last season's thread when saying Chuck is right about Jimmy. Chuck's a coldhearted asshole, but at the end of the day he was right about not giving Jimmy a job at HHM because he'll always be Slippin' Jimmy. This season is bearing that out further. Jimmy is loyal and trustworthy and will always do right by his clients but at the end of the day following the letter of the law is not in his DNA.

If my prediction is correct about Jimmy finally convincing Chuck he's capable of going straight (while we know he's not) then there's going to be major fireworks at the end of the season.

  

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98. "I definitely thought about Chuck when Begley said"
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"Howard said you were a little eccentric, he didn’t tell me you were a goddamned arsonist!”

Made me think of Chuck's "chimp with a machine gun" line. and that he probably had a point.

  

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80. "I was waiting for that to be Gus meeting Mike at the end..."
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but I gotta remember this show is a slow burn toward the future.

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89. "Same here, that was probably the intent..."
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But I'll settle for that look Mike gave accepting his fate.

One could argue that he was the best character on Breaking Bad, and I'd give them a strong listen.

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90. "I thought that too but vet probably wouldn't have a line on Gus"
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or if he did Gus is too cautious for a direct meet that fast

  

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91. "Yea great call..."
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>or if he did Gus is too cautious for a direct meet that fast

And with that in mind I'm really happy it didn't end up being him.

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97. "yeah i was trippin cause i thought the same thing..."
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i wanted it to be Gus but it made no sense for it to be him...especially since they made it seem like Mike knew whoever it was.

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99. "What an entertaining episode"
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Loved it. Mike is such an interesting character. His transformation into a business like killer is going to be something else. That Jimmy-Chuck conversation was entertaining as hell too.

Crazy 8 sighting. And I can't remember for sure but I assume the gun dealer was the same one that sold Walt his gun when he worked for Gus and was looking for the chance to kill him?

  

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100. "RE: What an entertaining episode"
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Gun guy is the same, I noticed that from the trailer. Awesome.

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101. "That's the third appearance of the gun guy (Jim Beaver)"
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Second was the flash-forward at the beginning of Season 5 of Walt buying the machine gun.

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108. "right....that repeat business is important...n/m"
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120. "yeah, that's right"
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He has a distinct way of talking, so I figured it was him. Couldn't remember what he looked like though.

  

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111. "wait was Crazy 8 the dude Tuco was giving the lie detector test?"
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i totally missed that

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119. "yeah, sitting down with Tuco and Nacho in the taco restaurant"
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123. "Yup. Also he had the gear from his dad's furniture store"
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that he was talking about with Walt, when Walt had him in the basement

  

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127. ":: Weebay acting astounded with moving background gif ::"
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Dude looked so young compared to the dude that was chained up in the bicycle lock from those early Breaking Bad episodes.

My mind is blown.

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102. "My recollection of Breaking Bad Season 1 are pretty hazy"
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Did they mention Tuco recently getting out of prison? I vaguely remember his "lie detector" stuff and definitely remember his meth habit and severe anger issues.

But yeah, great episode, especially the stuff with Mike. And Chuck is such a sanctimonious ass.

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103. "I hate Chuck so much."
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>Did they mention Tuco recently getting out of prison? I
>vaguely remember his "lie detector" stuff and definitely
>remember his meth habit and severe anger issues.

Good question. Must have been mentioned at some point. Though I guess since I remember Breaking Bad being told in real time, that he would've been like 2-4 years out of prison at that point so maybe it didn't necessitate mentioning.


>And
>Chuck is such a sanctimonious ass.

Chuck is the worst. Great character, brilliantly played. Such a hatetable asshole.

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104. "RE: My recollection of Breaking Bad Season 1 are pretty hazy"
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>And
>Chuck is such a sanctimonious ass.

It stinks Jimmy's woman had to take the fall for the workplace politics screw-up, but I have to think Chuck has reasons for being cautious with Jimmy. The show is centered around Jimmy, so it's natural to root for him, but I don't think Chuck is 100% completely wrong with his intentions.

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109. "i understand Chuck's apprehension"
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he's still a douche, but I get that Jimmy shows little proof that he's changed other than now he's Slippin Jimmy Esq....

I was a little surprised Chuck didn't take Jimmy up on his offer, but I'm guessing he wants Jimmy to fail at being a lawyer altogether rather than someone else derail it

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112. "he probably doesn't want Jimmy to hold it over on him"
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or use it against him somehow. he really doesn't trust dude at all.


>I was a little surprised Chuck didn't take Jimmy up on his
>offer, but I'm guessing he wants Jimmy to fail at being a
>lawyer altogether rather than someone else derail it

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116. "I view it"
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as Chuck not waning to compromise on any level with Jimmy. I think Chuck wants Jimmy to operate on his level and his level alone since giving Jimmy any wiggle room would lead him to taking advantage of the situation somehow.

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110. "He's definitely not wrong for his intentions."
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He's been pretty much spot on the entire time.

With Jimmy, the ends always justifies the means. This came up when Jimmy was talking to Cliff, then Kim, then Chuck. His first defense was always the results, not the method. Cliff hit the nail on the head: the partners have spent their careers building the integrity and reputation of Davis & Main. A single commercial isn't going to derail that, but it's that *type* of behavior that is the risk.

Also, note that for as cold as Chuck can be, he still trusts and loves his brother. He accepts Jimmy at his word when he said Kim had no idea about the commercial. He doesn't question Jimmy the person, he questions "Slippin' Jimmy". And, again... is he wrong?


That said, I'm still cautiously optimistic Jimmy is going to win over Chuck somehow (because of his relationship with Kim). He's just hit a bottom, and there's a lot of season left.

  

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118. "RE: My recollection of Breaking Bad Season 1 are pretty hazy"
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>It stinks Jimmy's woman had to take the fall for the workplace
>politics screw-up, but I have to think Chuck has reasons for
>being cautious with Jimmy. The show is centered around Jimmy,
>so it's natural to root for him, but I don't think Chuck is
>100% completely wrong with his intentions.

The dynamic of Chuck and Jimmy's relationship isn't built around him holding the moral high-ground. He believes it makes him a superior lawyer and overall, human being, than Jimmy. And Chuck is just as petty, vindictive, and glory-seeking as anyone on the show, but he clings to "But I don't cut corners" as proof that he's a moral and upstanding human being.

Plus, Chuck's "You're going to be at least a half an hour late; isn't THAT going to make a great impression" is just extra petty, sanctimonious horseshit, considering the reason that Jimmy stayed there was to make sure he made it through one of his psychological "episodes" okay.

I figure the denouement of the season is going to be when Chuck inevitably compromises his own "No shortcuts" activity for his own gain, and tries to explain it away by arguing that the ends justified the means.

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124. "RE: My recollection of Breaking Bad Season 1 are pretty hazy"
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>I figure the denouement of the season is going to be when
>Chuck inevitably compromises his own "No shortcuts" activity
>for his own gain, and tries to explain it away by arguing that
>the ends justified the means.

Other than his made-up ailment caused by whatever mental breakdown he had in the past, I don't see what Chuck has going wrong for him in life to make him compromise his code of ethics like you're suggesting, but that will be interesting to watch if it occurs.

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128. "RE: My recollection of Breaking Bad Season 1 are pretty hazy"
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>Other than his made-up ailment caused by whatever mental
>breakdown he had in the past, I don't see what Chuck has going
>wrong for him in life to make him compromise his code of
>ethics like you're suggesting, but that will be interesting to
>watch if it occurs.

I'm guessing that he's going to cut some corner while preparing for and trying the case. Which will ultimately lead to them "winning," but nobody will know about it besides himself and maybe Jimmy. And I'm guessing it will be something that he'll say he had to because of something Jimmy did.

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106. "Skinny Pete said he was locked up with Tuco"
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that's how they ended up setting up the meet


  

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105. "Watching Mike take these little jobs and work his way into the"
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crime side after being a cop is just as fun, or probably more so, than seeing Jimmy change into Saul. But it also makes me think that a Grand Theft Auto series would make some great television on HBO or something.

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107. "I continue to love the small BB tie-ins/characters"
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last week Mike was playing with the pig he used when Lydia tried to put a hit on him, for his guy that killed Chow

This week we saw Crazy 8 from Season 1 meeting with Tuco, in the truck/shirt of his dad's furniture store that he was talking about with Walt.

  

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113. "i still wasn't completely sold on the partners' reaction"
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i mean i get it but i don't get it...it seemed a little over the top. i could see them slapping him on the wrist for doing something without authorization but the way they were screaming and reacting to it seemed a bit extra...

Maybe i'm just as clueless as Jimmy though

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114. "Yea this kinda touches on what I was getting at above."
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>i mean i get it but i don't get it...it seemed a little over
>the top. i could see them slapping him on the wrist for doing
>something without authorization but the way they were
>screaming and reacting to it seemed a bit extra...
>
>Maybe i'm just as clueless as Jimmy though

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115. "RE: i still wasn't completely sold on the partners' reaction"
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>i mean i get it but i don't get it...it seemed a little over
>the top. i could see them slapping him on the wrist for doing
>something without authorization but the way they were
>screaming and reacting to it seemed a bit extra...
>
>Maybe i'm just as clueless as Jimmy though


It's basic office politics; he's brand new in the company and he took a measure using their name publicly without their approval. Kim getting blow-back is a bit extra, and Jimmy didn't break any rules or laws ala Slippin Jimmy, but he should have known better in terms of basic office politics.

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117. "Agreed."
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And on top of that, it's a law firm, where your entire business is predicated on interpretation of the law. If this is the basis of your company's reputation, then as a partner you should be furious when that is put at risk.

  

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133. "yeah but they came off weak the way they reacted"
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they didn't come across as authoritative bosses letting the employee know who runs shit...they were panicked and frantic. that's the part that seems off to me.

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136. "RE: yeah but they came off weak the way they reacted"
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>they didn't come across as authoritative bosses letting the
>employee know who runs shit...they were panicked and frantic.
>that's the part that seems off to me.


I think that's because it's a reflection of the firm itself; it's not a major completely corporate law firm. Compared the punishments dealt between the two law firms; Kim who did nothing wrong received the much harsher punishment and she earned more capital at her respective place of employment since she worked there longer than Jimmy is at the new spot.


I do hear you though that Jimmy violated office politics, yet the place isn't completely corporate.

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121. "No one else is commenting "
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on how well Mike can take a punch? My memory could be off, but didn't Tuco beat either Jessie or Crazy 8 to with a bag of cash in the first season? I remember him beating some skinny guy down very badly in the first season, which led to Walt blowing Tuco's place to smithereens with the fake exploding meth.

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122. "RE: No one else is commenting "
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>on how well Mike can take a punch? My memory could be off,
>but didn't Tuco beat either Jessie or Crazy 8 to with a bag of
>cash in the first season? I remember him beating some skinny
>guy down very badly in the first season, which led to Walt
>blowing Tuco's place to smithereens with the fake exploding
>meth.

Tuco beat the living shot out of two different people Season. The first was Jesse after he tried to sell him their Meth. But Jesse is like 110 pounds soaking wet. He also beat one of his own people to death in the final scene of the Season 1 finale, after Walt and Jesse sell him two pounds of their meth (It's also the first appearance of the "Blue Crystal Magic".

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126. "RE: No one else is commenting "
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>>on how well Mike can take a punch? My memory could be off,
>>but didn't Tuco beat either Jessie or Crazy 8 to with a bag
>of
>>cash in the first season? I remember him beating some skinny
>>guy down very badly in the first season, which led to Walt
>>blowing Tuco's place to smithereens with the fake exploding
>>meth.
>
>Tuco beat the living shot out of two different people Season.
>The first was Jesse after he tried to sell him their Meth. But
>Jesse is like 110 pounds soaking wet. He also beat one of his
>own people to death in the final scene of the Season 1 finale,
>after Walt and Jesse sell him two pounds of their meth (It's
>also the first appearance of the "Blue Crystal Magic".

Yeah, I just fired up Netflix to look at the scene I originally referenced. In the scene, Tuco was rocking the same diamond studded boxing gloves pendant that Mike was able to nab in the recent Better Call Saul episode, which means Tuco liked that pendant so much be bought another one after the incident at the Mexican restaurant.

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125. "Mike's such a G. I also like how had intel on "Salamancas""
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knowing it didn't just end with Tuco

  

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129. "that whole scene was beyond belief in its awesomeness"
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...my favorite part was Tuco's reaction when Mike grabs him, and then the laugh he gives while he hits Mike again knowing that since he's gonna be locked up anyway, he might as well get his licks in now...

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130. "Big ass balls on both those guys. "
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One question I have...

Why is Mike so reluctant to take Tuco's life? Is he hesitant to kill someone or is it something else?

  

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131. "can't wait to find out"
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>One question I have...
>
>Why is Mike so reluctant to take Tuco's life? Is he hesitant
>to kill someone or is it something else?

I LO)VE the way this show focuses on Mike from time to time, knowing the audience will want more when switch the focus back

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132. "He said he didn't want the cartels snooping around if Tuco died"
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Worried his name might come up if Nacho was under pressure to snitch.

  

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135. "True, that's what he told Nacho...."
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but I took that as his excuse to Nacho to avoid killing (Tuco). It was in the scene with the gunrunner that he decided not to kill (Tuco), and I think more specifically when he came across the bolt action that he was intimately familiar with.

I had the feeling that the period of his life when he became familiar with the gun was a period he would rather not relive.

  

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138. "He was in all likelihood alluding to Vietnam in that scene"
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Talking about the wood on the rifle could warp when exposed to moisture, and how there always lots of moisture when he used; as in, in the jungle.

>I had the feeling that the period of his life when he became
>familiar with the gun was a period he would rather not relive.

And to going to war with the Juarez cartel would have a lot of similarities to go to war in Vietnam. Him putting his life on the line for a person/cause that he doesn't believe in. And he'd be potentially putting his granddaughter in danger.

For Mike, at that moment, it's probably one thing to kill someone who was involved in the death of your son, and it's something else entirely to kill for the money and the "glory."

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139. "Great insight, yeah I was alluding to Vietnam."
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And the notion that he'd be putting his life on the line for something he doesn't believe in I think is spot on.

  

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134. "he def doesn't want to kill..."
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but he had almost convinced himself to...i guess it just didn't feel right.

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137. "RE: Big ass balls on both those guys. "
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>One question I have...
>
>Why is Mike so reluctant to take Tuco's life? Is he hesitant
>to kill someone or is it something else?


I think it mirror Jimmy's current storyline in that both dudes haven't fully broken bad yet. With Mike it's different because he didn't kill in the past in the instance involving his son, but I guess he don't want to cross that line again. Yet.

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140. "i think he's just a a recluctant criminal to begin with"
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and killing for money is a bridge to far for him.
he's in all likelyhood killed as a soldier. he killed the dirty cops who took out his son which he feels is justified, but killing AS a criminal puts him square on the other side of the fence.

he's also smart for thinking ahead to the cartel, but i think like Saul he's just having an internal struggle. he's probably just trying to delay the inevitable.

  

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141. ""The lesson is, if you're gonna be a criminal, do your homework." (c) Mi..."
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>and killing for money is a bridge to far for him.
>he's in all likelyhood killed as a soldier. he killed the
>dirty cops who took out his son which he feels is justified,
>but killing AS a criminal puts him square on the other side of
>the fence.

As he said to Sir Squat Cobbler in "Pimento":

"You can be on one side of the law or the other, but if you make a deal with somebody, you keep your word. You can go home today with your money and never do this again, but you took something that wasn't yours and you sold it for a profit. You're now a criminal; good one, bad one-that's up to you."

So, like you said, he's okay being muscle. He's okay taking a beating for money. But he's not ready to cross the line into becoming a "bad" criminal.

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142. "i don't think that's what he meant by good or bad criminal"
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he was saying you can be good at it or not, it's your choice

>So, like you said, he's okay being muscle. He's okay taking a
>beating for money. But he's not ready to cross the line into
>becoming a "bad" criminal.

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144. "Hector. Salamanca."
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Was waiting for something like that, cause up until that point this episode was a bit slow for my tastes, though Kim's character is likeable enough.


Good to see the Cartel show up tho

  

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145. "Loved that scene."
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All I could think of was: When is Gus showing up?

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146. "He seemed awfully young, compared to his age in BB. "
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How much earlier is this supposed to be?

  

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147. "BCS is 2002."
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Breaking Bad started in real time (as far as I know at least) in 2008.

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154. "strokes tend to age you"
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unless of course something else actually happened to him, which is alluded to below lol

  

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148. "Have to wonder if Better Call Saul will 'go there'"
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and show how Hector got into the vegetative state that he's in by the time the Breaking Bad timeline occurs.

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149. "I mean...I don't see why they wouldn't ?"
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>and show how Hector got into the vegetative state that he's
>in by the time the Breaking Bad timeline occurs.

Now that they've introduced him it'd be kinda weird to just leave that major BB plot point hanging for no good reason.

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150. "OMG I didnt think of that!!!!"
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I hope so

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151. "hell yes! they better"
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poor Mike though

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152. "$5 says Mike did it or had something to do with it"
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153. "^^ I like this theory."
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Judging by the subtle intensity of their scene together we may even see that happen this season. Cause you know Mike doesn't want to let Tuco out of jail, and you know he has the ability to fuck uncle's world up, and you KNOW Mike doesn't take this type of shit or bribery from anyone.

So we'll see. But it's an interesting theory.

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156. "holy shit. "
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i had always assumed it was just something caused by health issues, but i'm really digging all the speculation here because it sounds too awesome for the show to pass up

>Judging by the subtle intensity of their scene together we
>may even see that happen this season. Cause you know Mike
>doesn't want to let Tuco out of jail, and you know he has the
>ability to fuck uncle's world up, and you KNOW Mike doesn't
>take this type of shit or bribery from anyone.
>
>So we'll see. But it's an interesting theory.

  

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158. "Haha you and dillinjah are more than likely right..."
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>i had always assumed it was just something caused by health
>issues, but i'm really digging all the speculation here
>because it sounds too awesome for the show to pass up

...about the stroke, now that I think of it. But it would definitely be awesome.

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155. "I doubt it's anything that interesting"
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You gotta figure that if Mike did that shit, the Cartel woulda settled that shit a LONG time ago.

There's no way they'd work with Gus, knowing that his right hand man in Mike beat the shit out of a Salamanca...sangre por sangre and all.

What probably happened to Hector was either a stroke, or instead parkinsonism that gradually deteriorated to him being wheelchair bound.

  

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161. "Interesting to see you peoples"
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>You gotta figure that if Mike did that shit, the Cartel
>woulda settled that shit a LONG time ago.
>
>There's no way they'd work with Gus, knowing that his right
>hand man in Mike beat the shit out of a Salamanca...sangre por
>sangre and all.
>
>What probably happened to Hector was either a stroke, or
>instead parkinsonism that gradually deteriorated to him being
>wheelchair bound.

run with the Mike speculations. I doubt it's Mike as well since I doubt Mike would leave the man breathing if he were truly involved. I guess we shall see soon enough how things go down though. It does stink to see that the Salamanca clan appears to be putting the squeeze on Mike based on the previews for the next episode. I have to think the daughter-in-law and the granddaughter are possible targets, but at least Breaking Bad fans know those two are alive in the Breaking Bad storyline.

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162. "Or it could be Gus...."
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remember he hates Hector for what he did, and wants revenge. And we know Mike ends up working for him. So maybe thats how they introduce him.

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163. "do we have a year on when Hector killed Gus' "partner"?"
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165. "1989"
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166. "oh wow. didn't realize it was that far back. thanks"
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157. "“You have a tendency to overuse the words 'clearly' and 'obviously""
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159. "She reminded me of the uppity staffer from Veep S4..."
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she might even be the same actress, lol.

That whole sequence was hilarious

  

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164. "i loved it because it's such a valid critique"
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of how he talks. and i guess he writes the same way.

>That whole sequence was hilarious

Word. i still haven't seen Veep

  

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175. "Yup. Same actress!"
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169. "The absolute worst"
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was when Jimmy had to stop her from following him as he went to the bathroom in the municipal courthouse.

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160. "I rescind my prediction..."
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Jimmy is not going to win over Chuck. The mistrust in that relationship goes way too deep, colored even more by the jealousy Chuck has towards Jimmy's charisma. Chuck denying Jimmy the job last season makes even more sense now.

And it looks like Kim's stature may be restored, without Jimmy's intervention. We might see Saul Goodman earlier than expected this season.

  

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167. "Easter egg from last week...."
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I just went back and checked. The guy that tried to sell Mike the sniper rifle is the same guy that sell Walt the gun in the final season of Breaking Bad!!!!

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168. "Yup. He also sold Walt the 38 snub"
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after Gus killed Victor, and Walt decided he was gonna kill Gus. When he met Mike at that bar, and Mike noticed right away he was carrying lol.

  

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171. "this show is amazing"
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179. "I've been rewatching BB while waiting for the new BCS each week. "
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A couple days ago we got to the scene where Walt is first showing Saul the car wash that they were thinking of buying. Saul is pushing them to buy the laser tag place, and he's telling Walt how to lie effectively. His example: "I once got a woman to sleep with me by convincing her that I was Kevin Costner!"

  

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172. "i just loved Kim's "You don't save me, I save me" line"
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she tethered her wagon to Jimmy's and his screwup affected her...she's right to want some distance

...LOL at her calling all those contacts and some of them putting their bid in for a date....

This show is SO cool that I often find myself wishing we had some the other lawyer characters somewhere in the BB main storyline, just cause I keep wondering what everyone was up to at that point....

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173. "it was her "I am the one who knocks""
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174. "Do folks here think"
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Jimmy plays a part in Chuck's mental breakdown or do folks not even care since it appears most folks here vilify Chuck?

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176. "I would hope not. That would be pretty suspect storytelling"
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It can't just be "Jimmy causes the ruin of everyone who loves him."

This last episode, Chuck places the blame on him for ruining his father's business and literally being the death of him. If they then implied it Chuck's "condition" was all Jimmy's fault too? Yeah, that's beyond overkill.

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177. "Ha I mean it's pretty clear that's what direction they're going"
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>It can't just be "Jimmy causes the ruin of everyone who loves
>him."
>
>This last episode, Chuck places the blame on him for ruining
>his father's business and literally being the death of him. If
>they then implied it Chuck's "condition" was all Jimmy's fault
>too? Yeah, that's beyond overkill.

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178. "yeah I bet something completely fucked happens to chuck's wife"
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>It can't just be "Jimmy causes the ruin of everyone who loves
>him."
>
>This last episode, Chuck places the blame on him for ruining
>his father's business and literally being the death of him. If
>they then implied it Chuck's "condition" was all Jimmy's fault
>too? Yeah, that's beyond overkill.

...which devastates chuck to the extent of what we see him as now. Jimmy having something to do with that is just too much to bare

  

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180. "I agree, I bet it's more about Chuck's wife."
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But I also feel we saw an inkling of his condition at the beginning of the scene... he was switching out light bulbs or something right? It also felt like his house was already darker than a normal house would be.

I could be misremembering the scene though.

  

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181. "Aww shit. The murda twins"
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This Mike storyline is 10x better than Jimmy's.
Kim's is too.

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182. "these guys really know how to do some creepy swimming pool scenes"
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Going back to the swimming pool shots throughout season 2 of BB, Skyler's fake attempted drowning, etc. You could feel that whole scene that something creepy was going down soon.

  

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183. "That shit made my blood run cold. "
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But Mike is a gangsta motherfucker.

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186. "i just like that they can go for 20-30 mins w/o even mentioning Jimmy"
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I wanted to cheer when Kim walked out of the office.... Those guys are some real pricks....

Mike is that dude...I woulda gave back part of that money...LOL

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189. "makes that time Mike visited twin in the hospital even more rewarding"
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190. "good point"
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191. "I completely forgot about this."
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Is he the one who killed the twin while he was in the hospital?

For some reason I thought it was Gus himself.

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192. "Gus was feeding the troops"
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Allowing Mike to slip up there and give him a dose while the DEA enjoyed some delicious pollos hermanos

one who killed the twin whle he was in the
>hospital?
>
>For some reason I thought it was Gus himself.

  

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184. "I understand principles and all that"
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But ain't no way Nacho is getting all his money back for a botched job.

I got my face busted, threats to my grandkid, Tuco, Hector AND the murder twins? Trying to help you out? Nah. I bet Nacho's not giving full refunds from a botched car repair.

  

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185. "Yeah, not sure why the writers felt that needed to be in there"
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>But ain't no way Nacho is getting all his money back for a
>botched job.
>
>I got my face busted, threats to my grandkid, Tuco, Hector AND
>the murder twins? Trying to help you out? Nah. I bet
>Nacho's not giving full refunds from a botched car repair.

I'm pretty sure everyone in the audience knows that Mike is a stand up guy

  

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187. "consistency...stand up guys gotta do standup things"
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188. "as much as I love this show, it hasnt been a show where I'm dying waitin..."
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a week... that's starting to happen, last week, and more so after last night I'm really hype for next week

  

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193. "I don't anticipate this show like some others, BUT...."
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When I'm watching, I'm totally engrossed.

  

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197. "^^^"
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i forget i have even recorded it

  

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194. "Prediction: Either Saul gets Mike off on the gun charge"
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or Saul gets Tuco a reduced sentence.

in BB when Hank and Gomey are interrogating Mike they bring up the Philly thing but nothing about Mike being arrested, especially since this involved Tuco it would have come up. Mike's not taking any kind of charge, even with probation.

Either Saul saves the day or somehow Gus enters the picture.

  

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195. "Good point. Mike can't get caught up "officially" in any stuff"
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With that in mind, I don't think he even cops to the gun. That would put him in the books.
Something has to happen beforehand that prevents it.

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196. "Laying the groundwork for mike getting with gus"
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I loved that sit down with Hector. The Salamancas were not pleased with the outcome of that negotiation. I doubt that Mike is done dealing with them.

Also interested to see how the Jimmy and Kim stories end up. I can't see Jimmy staying at D&M much longer. And Kim may finally be loosening her vice grip on her life and career.

  

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198. "Kim is gonna loosen up her grip on her life. all of it"
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no Jimmy McGill becomes Saul full-time while Kim is alive

  

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199. "RE: Kim is gonna loosen up her grip on her life. all of it"
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>no Jimmy McGill becomes Saul full-time while Kim is alive


I've been wondering about this....you think Kim is dead in the BB part of the timeline?? I keep wondering what happens to her and Jimmy's brother, that these people are really not mentioned at ALL by that point....

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200. "nah i bet they just have a huge falling out..."
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she's off somewhere living a Jimmy-free life

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201. "Yea I'm really interested to see where this goes too."
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Cause you're right, not a single word. They've done such a great job tying his colorful wardrobe, the ring, etc., things that were prevalent and noticeable in BB into the BCS storyline so far....so I'm interested to see how they "do away" with Chuck and Kim, whether they are collateral damage from his "colorful" work or if they are alive but just steer clear of Jimmy/Saul after a few more mistakes, or something else.

Should be great to watch wherever it goes.

>I've been wondering about this....you think Kim is dead in the
>BB part of the timeline?? I keep wondering what happens to her
>and Jimmy's brother, that these people are really not
>mentioned at ALL by that point....

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208. "RE: Kim is gonna loosen up her grip on her life. all of it"
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um Kim dies

  

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202. "Fantastic episode and the best of the season so far"
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Loved the beginning scene that showed what brother Chuck was talking to Kim about in the previous episode. Jimmy was sharp at a young age and it was an effective way to get a glimpse into how quickly he learned what he wanted out of life.

I've had my gripes with this season, but this episode, while it could have been a bit earlier, really succeeds in developing the characters AND setting the story in motion.

Now Jimmy is free from the round-holed lawyer bureaucracy and Mike is ready to do some dirt to get Kaylee a backyard. My only fear is that Jimmy will take Kim up on her offer (he should realize he needs to fly solo and she should stick to her strengths and join the firm) which would be another confinement we have to wait for Jimmy to shake off.

I have a feeling these next couple of episodes are going to pick up a lot and this season will end with a bang, making the slow-roll first six episodes worth it.

  

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203. "FWIW..I think you're a nice guy.."
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FWIW..I think you're an asshole!


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204. "Mike doing this to get the girls away from trouble"
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But seems like it's putting them in a lot more risk than if he had just did nothing.

I keep wondering how much Stacy actually believed she was in danger vs playing it up to get more out of Mike. It's always the same routine with her.

That chip in the house wasn't from a bullet and he knew it, but still went along. He owes her and knows that it can't go any other way. Also wonder if he thinks she's playing him for the money.

  

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206. "I took it as her having some sort of PTSD"
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Not that she was trying to play him, but she is messed up from everything that has happened.

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209. "Thats how I saw it too."
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205. "Anyone else waiting for him to do a Saul voicemail greeting?"
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They built up the suspense and then he ended up just doing a normal one.

  

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207. "Haha yep."
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I definitely think that was intentional, to make the audience hold their breath a bit. But I'm glad it didn't happen like *that*.

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210. "Anyone else sensing theres some dirt in Kim's past?"
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She seemed pretty uncomfortable fielding questions about it and kept it as general as possible.

There could be a bigger reason her and Jimmy bond, and why she reluctantly slides into those capers so naturally

  

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212. "Great call. I didn't pick up on it at the time."
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>She seemed pretty uncomfortable fielding questions about it
>and kept it as general as possible.
>
>There could be a bigger reason her and Jimmy bond, and why she
>reluctantly slides into those capers so naturally

I definitely sensed there was something off or dodgy about the way she was responding but I didn't really consider *why* that might be til you just brought up this theory. And I think you're onto something. If it proves true, credit to you...but also, credit to the writers for making her elusiveness subtle to the point that it wasn't totally obvious that she is hiding something.

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214. "What got me was "Kansas Nebraska border","
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that is, she grew up in a small town on the Kansas Nebraska border. Not really right next to Omaha, and I'm sure this is reading way too much into it, but I couldn't help thinking they could be setting up a post-BB plotline.

  

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211. "brilliant flashback scene of Jimmy, said so much about his character."
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I was actually rooting for him when he got the guy to pay for his cigarettes, but then he proved Chuck right, which angered me a little.

But he's a great complex character and it works and I love how it shows how Mike in a way is his mirror image, in the sense that they both walk that line between good and bad whenever necessary.

  

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213. "Yes. I was like see Chuck?.... Oh"
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Great scene

Someone said they saw poker chips on the register in that scene too

Need to rewatch

  

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215. "LOL that was LOW...."
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I understand why he did it, but...wow....

Chuck was great this ep.... I loved how smooth he was with the clients... Love that Jimmy is slowly proving everyone right about what/who he really is... Chuck legally gets a client back, and jimmy does something underhanded to sabotage that...

I feel like I missed something last night, how were they really transporting the drugs again?? cause the scans and police found nothing, but we know they're up to no good...and what was Mike making? Is he really planning on robbing the Salamancas?

***bTW, I really enjoyed Howard, and his tie, for a change this episode

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216. "well remember in BB Gus was...."
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>I feel like I missed something last night, how were they
>really transporting the drugs again?? cause the scans and
>police found nothing, but we know they're up to no good...and
>what was Mike making? Is he really planning on robbing the
>Salamancas?

transporting the drugs in those same round containers of ice cream.
Looks like Mike was making a spike strip to blow the tires. Not sure if he wants to rob them or just cause them some trouble. I wonder if later once he hooks up with Gus he gives him the idea to transport that way.

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219. "That's another thing about this show that irks me a lil sometimes"
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....I get that there will be many references to BB and it's storylines, but I really don't remember a lot of the smaller beats, and I hope this show doesn't go that route where you HAVE to be up on BB in it's entirety to get what's going on in BCS......I thought about that when Tio Salamanca showed up and the murder twins too...I knew who they were and that it was a big deal, but people who are strickly fans of THIS show aren't as invested in their appearances

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220. "Meh I don't think it totally loses you either way though."
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Like - even if you *didn't* know who the twins were by appearance, it's still pretty obvious that Tuco's uncle (who BCS fans know well by then) told those "random dudes" to go put the scare in Mike. Then if/when you find out later that it's a throwback (throwforward?) to Breaking Bad you can be all "OH THAT'S DOPE".

So I don't really agree with that gripe.

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221. "Yeah. Everything in BCS is independent of BB so far"
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Like you said, someone who hasn't watched BB would see them as the Murda Twinz, but that's not integral to the BCS story.

Same thing with Tuco, Tio, and other recurring characters. If you watched BB you know a few extra nuggets, but it doesn't really add much to this story.

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224. "agreed on all of this"
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>Like - even if you *didn't* know who the twins were by
>appearance, it's still pretty obvious that Tuco's uncle (who
>BCS fans know well by then) told those "random dudes" to go
>put the scare in Mike. Then if/when you find out later that
>it's a throwback (throwforward?) to Breaking Bad you can be
>all "OH THAT'S DOPE".
>
>So I don't really agree with that gripe.

  

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230. "LOL reread what i wrote"
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I never said there was a disconnect, I just said I hope the connections to BB don't become a thing fans of this show need to know...

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231. "Yea you said that but you also said this:"
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>I thought about that when Tio Salamanca showed up and the murder
>twins too...I knew who they were and that it was a big deal, but
>people who are strickly fans of THIS show aren't as invested in
>their appearances

...and that's the part I was responding to specifically.

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233. "and it's still true"
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people who watched BB would be more invested in seeing these people appear, but ok....

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234. "Wait - so what you're saying is ...."
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fans of Breaking Bad will appreciate recurring characters in a Breaking Bad spinoff more than people who have never seen Breaking Bad ?

Mind-bending analysis !

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236. "Dude..i know you're bored too...it's gonna be ok..."
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239. "Thanks man. I appreciate your kind words."
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217. "I think they are transporting them in the tires"
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When the truck went into the garage, you started hearing those air wrenches go to work.
I'm guessing he is going to spike strip the truck to get them jammed up at the border.

What is the whole purpose for it? I'm not sure.
I can't see why he would involve himself so deeply into their business.

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218. "HA uhmm potentially cause they threatened to kill his granddaughter ?"
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Call me crazy but .... maybe that. Who knows though. Could just be boredom.

>I can't see why he would involve himself so deeply into their
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222. "I still don't see it. You would assume it's all good now..."
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since he cleared up the story of the gun with the police. His daughter should be safe. She's in more danger now that he is causing trouble.

This seems like an ego thing. When he was interviewing with the police, he got really frustrated when they said you don't need to be victimized twice.

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223. "It's part pride, but Mike needs to make money"
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so I think part of it is he clearly can't stand being prey (back the the wolf vs sheep in the last episode flashback), and getting punked the way he did, but he also needs to make money to support his family. I think he has a longer game in mind, as he's peeping the mechanics of the salamanca operation. We just don't know what it is.

  

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225. "Yea no. Sorry but...."
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>since he cleared up the story of the gun with the police. His
>daughter should be safe. She's in more danger now that he is
>causing trouble.

....it's never, ever, ever "all good," as you say, with anyone who ever thinks it's cool to send goons to mock shoot my granddaughter from a rooftop. If I ultimately "cleared up the story of the gun" that's just to buy me time to devise a gameplan to fuck your world up, or at least try. And if I had the mental wherewithal of Mike E. I would stop at nothing to be sure these fucks could never point a real or fake gun in her direction again. So in other words, Mike's got my backing and understanding.


>This seems like an ego thing. When he was interviewing with
>the police, he got really frustrated when they said you don't
>need to be victimized twice.

It's principle, not ego. Fuck with me all you want but the second you make even the smallest threat to any member of my family, especially the young and innocent ones, the air is never clear and I'd do anything in my power to fuck your existence up.

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226. "Mike knows what kind of people he's dealing with"
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He knows he can't get rid of one problem without a whole host of other problems coming in its place. He saw this with the Tuco thing that got him in this mess to begin with.

I think it would be smart to let things be after copping to the gun because, for all Tio and the cartel know, he is just an innocent civilian. They don't know he was involved in a setup to get Tuco.

The odds of him and his family being safe seem a lot greater if he simply plays along


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228. "Yea I see what you're saying and don't necessarily disagree."
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I never said that he wasn't being irrational. Just saying despite how irrational it might seem it's still easy to understand why he'd want to fuck these guys' worlds up.

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227. "The preview of next week ticked me off so much."
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He can never fucking win.

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229. "Anyone else see the Kleinfeld sign and smile to themselves?"
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Perhaps a nod to another dodgy fictional lawyer?

  

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232. "man, I thought Mike was making a sprinkler for his grandbaby "
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one of those joints that shoots water up into the air for her to run through





should've known better lol

  

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235. "lmao man me too...he fooled me at first"
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237. "And whatsername, the kid's mom, seemed to know it wasn't a sprinkler."
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I was looking at her like "what? They're just doing DIY work together. It's cute."

I was honestly a little sad when I saw him in the end.


Poor Mike, there's no telling where his life might go if he doesn't start to straighten up and fly right.

  

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238. "Lol nah i knew it was gonna be some kind of mike contraption "
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i just didn't know it would be a spike strip

  

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240. "Same."
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>RE: Lol nah i knew it was gonna be some kind of mike contraption
>i just didn't know it would be a spike strip

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241. "the very first time i saw it i thought sprinkler..."
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but then when the girl was leaving and he said it was some BS for his garden i knew something was up...once they showed him washing it all slow i was really intrigued.

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242. "Holy shit! I want to say this episode was better than anything from BB"
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Shit was drama at its finest

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243. "That scene with Kim, Chuck, & Jimmy..."
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Or the scene at the hearing, where they slowly ramped up the hum of the fluorescent lights. I had to mute the TV for a second to make sure my fridge wasn't acting up.

  

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244. "yeah so great I'm watching it a 2nd time, back to back"
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Jimmy's storyline is really picking up steam. Knew it would, so I enjoyed the slow burn.

Mike's stuff was great too. That look when he found out the good samaritan got killed.....

edit: hold up.....only 1 episode left this season? Didn't even realize it. These 10 episode seasons aren't enough. Give us 13 next year!

  

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253. "yeah it was pretty good"
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i think this is where the show takes the turn.

  

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256. "While i woulnd't go that far, it was really really really good"
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245. "this is the show that absolves AMC of what TWD has become "
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246. "Yeah, not really feeling bad for Chuck"
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Not saying he deserved to get seriously hurt or anything, but he's still a gaping asshole.

Really all of this shit could have been avoided if he just let Kim take Mesa Verde in the first place. HHM didn't need their business, he just wanted to stick it to Jimmy by proxy. So, fuck him.

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247. "This is where I'm at"
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Chuck takes advantage of Jimmy in the same way he sees Jimmy taking advantage of everyone else. All that 'I'm trying to save you from Jimmy' talk is such BS. He never tries to conquer his condition unless it involves countering Jimmy.

My thing is, why don't they just drop dime on Chuck's condition? Considering the size of HHM, it's surprising that little secret isn't out in the streets.

  

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255. "Agreed"
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259. "Agreed, but i gotta admit my heart dropped"
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When he hit his head. I had my hand over my mouth like a fucking little old lady lol

  

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260. "Haha same here."
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>When he hit his head. I had my hand over my mouth like a
>fucking little old lady lol

I said out loud "holy shit he killed his brother" like 5x. Haha.

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261. "same here...i felt kinda bad at that point"
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but beyond that i don't care cause the only thing fucking with him is his pride and his issues with Jimmy...when you break it down to it's simplest terms, what happened with Mesa Verde isn't that big of a deal.

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