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Hellyeah
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"so snoop quietly dropped a banger"


          

no posts on that doggumentary? this might be his best album since blue carpet treatment

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
I'll get back to you when it's out
Mar 24th 2011
1
What song is that w/ Kanye?
Mar 25th 2011
3
      Eyez Closed. John Legend's on it too. n/m
Mar 25th 2011
5
Details
Mar 25th 2011
2
straight from the 'pedia
Mar 25th 2011
10
      I like how there is no Swizz Beatz lol
Mar 25th 2011
11
      swizz probably would've ate the budget
Mar 25th 2011
12
      I had to youtube that Battlecat cut immediately
Mar 25th 2011
13
      Am I Hearing Taana Gardner's "Heartbeat" Too?
Mar 25th 2011
15
      which part? I'm trying to find it
Mar 25th 2011
16
           The drums
Mar 26th 2011
24
                Damn yeah I do hear it, BPM too
Mar 27th 2011
41
      best song imo
Mar 25th 2011
17
      agreed, just realized he did this one too:
Mar 25th 2011
18
      wow i'm pleasanly surprised by the album
Mar 25th 2011
20
      RE: agreed, just realized he did this one too:
Mar 25th 2011
22
      Hmmmm
Mar 26th 2011
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      I like Raised in Da Hood, but I don't have any particular reason why
Mar 25th 2011
19
      wait ,and of course I like EL LAY
Mar 25th 2011
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      Battlecat is def underrated.
Mar 26th 2011
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           He's part of L.A's "Holy trinity" of producers along with Quik n Dre
Mar 27th 2011
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                Makes sense.
Mar 27th 2011
45
                yup....whatever happened to Fredwreck, he had some bangers too
Mar 30th 2011
66
                     Fredwreck has a track on this album
Apr 04th 2011
105
      This song's dope.
Mar 26th 2011
28
      this is tight....Battlecat is that dude
Mar 27th 2011
34
      So this is my personal revised version of Doggumentary:
Apr 01st 2011
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I like it as well, though it suffers from what every modern Snoop album ...
Mar 25th 2011
4
agree 100%
Mar 25th 2011
6
yea like Blue capret treatment having a song about his football
Mar 25th 2011
7
He needs an executive producer
Mar 25th 2011
8
      lol
Mar 25th 2011
14
I like that Snoop albums are stupid long because...
Mar 25th 2011
9
the beats are fan fucking tastic...almost everyone brought their
Mar 26th 2011
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this is also the first snoop album WITHOUT a neptunes beat
Mar 26th 2011
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      and as a result it sucks ass
Mar 27th 2011
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           ?
Mar 27th 2011
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                RE: ?
Mar 27th 2011
46
Yeah, it's pretty good
Mar 26th 2011
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listening now...
Mar 26th 2011
30
RE: listening now...
Mar 26th 2011
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RE: listening now...
Mar 26th 2011
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      RE: listening now...
Mar 27th 2011
44
           *Orders special diver's suit to see how low Da Game is rated*
Mar 29th 2011
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                Ahahahahahaha.
Mar 29th 2011
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                     Its the mumbling and whispering
Mar 29th 2011
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                          Yep, in the history of mankind!
Mar 30th 2011
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                          History has been fairly kind to Doggfather
Mar 31st 2011
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                               Agreed 1000%
Mar 31st 2011
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                          RE: Its the mumbling and whispering
Mar 31st 2011
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RE: listening now...
Mar 28th 2011
53
      He didn't "stop" writing them.
Mar 28th 2011
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This shit's only gonna be $7.99 at Best Buy
Mar 26th 2011
32
Wow, and I got a $25 gift card
Mar 27th 2011
43
yo what is the sample on 'the way life used to be'?
Mar 27th 2011
36
just figured it out:
Mar 27th 2011
39
where would y'all rank it among the last few?
Mar 27th 2011
37
Ha ha I just tried to rank all his albums in reply 44...
Mar 27th 2011
47
      thanks
Mar 27th 2011
48
           Yea, def worth the cop IMO
Mar 27th 2011
49
"I Don't Need No Bitch" is fire. DJ Khalil stays on point
Mar 27th 2011
38
Maaan phuckit. I'm gonna do what I haven't done since Top Dogg
Mar 27th 2011
50
It's worth it bro.
Mar 27th 2011
51
everybody and they mama luv snoop.....
Mar 28th 2011
52
Halfway in and I'm really impressed
Mar 29th 2011
55
My only criticisms after multiple listens are...
Mar 29th 2011
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      This
Mar 29th 2011
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           lol...y'all is crazy...that track is BANGER...best rick rock beat
Mar 29th 2011
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           Even if you like it, you have to admit
Mar 30th 2011
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           Yep.
Mar 29th 2011
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Old white lady at Best Buy's SoundScan guesstimation puts Snoop @ #1
Mar 29th 2011
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Ahead of Wiz and/or Britney? Doubtful
Mar 30th 2011
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      Lol, I don't care. I'm just sayin, Ms. Ethel said Snoop was movin units.
Mar 30th 2011
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           His last album sold 50,000 his first week, and had two bigger hits
Mar 30th 2011
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Battlecat laced him...I'm loving this shit
Mar 29th 2011
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i'll check this out
Mar 30th 2011
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RE: so snoop quietly dropped a banger
Mar 31st 2011
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I think Dre is what made him great in the first place...
Mar 31st 2011
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      RE: I think Dre is what made him great in the first place...
Mar 31st 2011
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           Haha - alright.
Mar 31st 2011
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           RE: Haha - alright.
Mar 31st 2011
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                Fair enough.
Mar 31st 2011
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                     RE: Fair enough.
Mar 31st 2011
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                          RE: Fair enough.
Mar 31st 2011
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                          I really don't know what to tell you...
Mar 31st 2011
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           RE: I think Dre is what made him great in the first place...
Apr 01st 2011
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                RE: I think Dre is what made him great in the first place...
Apr 01st 2011
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there are probably 3 or 4 throaway cuts from being his best album ever
Apr 01st 2011
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Best ever? You really think so?
Apr 02nd 2011
90
Exclude the compilations I only see Doggystyle and BCT
Apr 04th 2011
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      Haha - ok phew
Apr 04th 2011
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Nahhhhh nothing quite that good. At BEST, maybe 5th best album?
Apr 03rd 2011
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      what do you consider a snoop album? because he got a bunch of
Apr 04th 2011
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      I only count his actual albums too. I don't count Dead man walking
Apr 04th 2011
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      Paid The Cost is underrated even by Snoop fans, that's his second-best
Apr 04th 2011
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           I love Stoplight, Beautiful, & Pimp Slapp'd
Apr 04th 2011
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                One and Only is a jam too.
Apr 04th 2011
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                     I'm a fan of all those you guys mentioned plus love:
Apr 05th 2011
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I love it,imo his best since Blue Carpet Treatment
Apr 01st 2011
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this might make me check it out on the strength
Apr 01st 2011
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Same here about BCT...
Apr 02nd 2011
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      RE: Same here about BCT...
Apr 02nd 2011
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           Haha @ Doggfather
Apr 02nd 2011
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                RE: Haha @ Doggfather
Apr 02nd 2011
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                     Ooooookkk dogg.
Apr 03rd 2011
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Yo I love Battlecat as much as the next man n/h but sometimes
Apr 02nd 2011
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Wonder what it do is perfection tho!
Apr 03rd 2011
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RE: Wonder what it do is perfection tho!
Apr 05th 2011
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really is, perfect LA driving music this past weekend for me
Apr 05th 2011
112
I like the way those beats sound
Apr 03rd 2011
100
Also he's from LB yo why he shouting out Raskals in the intro
Apr 02nd 2011
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RE: so snoop quietly dropped a banger
Apr 05th 2011
110

dalecooper
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1. "I'll get back to you when it's out"
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Thu Mar-24-11 04:34 PM by dalecooper

  

          

I didn't even buy his last couple because what I heard of them and word here & elsewhere was not very good. But I did really like "Blue Carpet." I know and like that Kanye song from the GOOD Fridays thing, but I don't think Snoop adds anything to it unfortunately - that's the only thing I've heard off this album so far.

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3. "What song is that w/ Kanye?"
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5. "Eyez Closed. John Legend's on it too. n/m"
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2. "Details"
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Tell us about it. Productions, guests, highlights.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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10. "straight from the 'pedia"
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1. "Toyz n Da Hood" (featuring Bootsy Collins) Jake One 2:40
2. "The Way Life Used to Be" Battlecat 3:43
3. "My Own Way" (featuring Mr. Porter) Mr. Porter 3:05
4. "Wonder What It Do" (featuring Uncle Chucc) Battlecat 3:43
5. "My Fuckin' House" (featuring Young Jeezy & E-40) Rick Rock 5:07
6. "Peer Pressure" (featuring Traci Nelson) Fredwreck 4:07
7. "I Don't Need No Bitch" (featuring Devin the Dude & Kobe) DJ Khalil 3:59
8. "Platinum" (featuring R. Kelly) Lex Luger 4:29
9. "Boom" (featuring T-Pain) Scott Storch 3:50
10. "We Rest N Cali" (featuring Goldie Loc & Bootsy Collins) Mr. Porter 4:10
11. "El Lay" (featuring Marty James) Scoop DeVille 4:06
12. "Gangbang Rookie" (featuring Pilot) Jake One 3:46
13. "This Weed Iz Mine" (featuring Wiz Khalifa) Scoop DeVille 3:43
14. "Wet" The Cataracs 3:45
15. "Take U Home" (featuring Too Short, Kokane & Daz Dillinger) Meech Wells 3:55
16. "Sumthing' Like this Night" (featuring Gorillaz) Damon Albarn, Gorillaz (co.) Jason Cox 3:37
17. "Superman" (featuring Willie Nelson) 2:05
18. "Eyez Closed" (featuring Kanye West & John Legend) Kanye West, Mike Dean (add.) 5:02
19. "Raised in da Hood" Warryn Campbell, DJ Reflex (co.) 3:39
20. "It's D Only Thang" David Banner, THX (co.) 3:16
21. "Cold Game" (featuring LaToiya Williams) 3:49

  

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11. "I like how there is no Swizz Beatz lol"
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I remember like 6 months back, Swizz was all over the Internet talking about how Snoop was making a sequel to Doggystyle and he was gonna produce it. Then Snoop scrapped the sequel plan, and I guess, with it when Swizzy.

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12. "swizz probably would've ate the budget"
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battlecat is his homie.
jakeone/mr.porter are dope and far less than swizz
snoop knows he gonna barely go US gold which is smart

  

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13. "I had to youtube that Battlecat cut immediately "
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Fri Mar-25-11 12:20 PM by Bombastic

  

          

I don't hear that dude's production enough & he didn't dissapoint, this shit is smooth as hell the way they freaked Boz Scaggs 'Lowdown'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRBSJ1FZAQE

edit: I forgot to mention adding that little sample that Three Times Dope used for 'Funky Dividends' at the end.

This song is officially a winner.

I might actually have to buy this album just off hearing this & 'Gang Bang Rookie'.

  

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15. "Am I Hearing Taana Gardner's "Heartbeat" Too?"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UEywMdQUpU

  

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16. "which part? I'm trying to find it"
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24. "The drums"
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41. "Damn yeah I do hear it, BPM too"
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17. "best song imo"
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battle cat is under rated.

  

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18. "agreed, just realized he did this one too: "
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmf7m-q9Jos&feature=related

  

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20. "wow i'm pleasanly surprised by the album"
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i might actually buy it.
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22. "RE: agreed, just realized he did this one too: "
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Battlecat has been good for a long time.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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25. "Hmmmm"
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Are they competing for who can have have the laziest snare/clap? That shit is LATE. Reminds me of J Dilla grooves from the early 00's and on.

  

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19. "I like Raised in Da Hood, but I don't have any particular reason why"
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21. "wait ,and of course I like EL LAY"
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29. "Battlecat is def underrated."
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We Can Freak It is still one of my favorite hiphop beats ever.

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45. "Makes sense."
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He's definitely made a lot of hits that people who don't know better would be like "wait...WHO produced that?!"

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66. "yup....whatever happened to Fredwreck, he had some bangers too"
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105. "Fredwreck has a track on this album"
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34. "this is tight....Battlecat is that dude"
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87. "So this is my personal revised version of Doggumentary:"
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1. "Toyz n Da Hood" (featuring Bootsy Collins) Jake One 2:40
2. "The Way Life Used to Be" Battlecat 3:43
3. "My Own Way" (featuring Mr. Porter) Mr. Porter 3:05
4. "Wonder What It Do" (featuring Uncle Chucc) Battlecat 3:43
7. "I Don't Need No Bitch" (featuring Devin the Dude & Kobe) DJ Khalil 3:59
10. "We Rest N Cali" (featuring Goldie Loc & Bootsy Collins) Mr. Porter 4:10
11. "El Lay" (featuring Marty James) Scoop DeVille 4:06
12. "Gangbang Rookie" (featuring Pilot) Jake One 3:46
13. "This Weed Iz Mine" (featuring Wiz Khalifa) Scoop DeVille 3:43
18. "Eyez Closed" (featuring Kanye West & John Legend) Kanye West, Mike Dean (add.) 5:02
19. "Raised in da Hood" Warryn Campbell, DJ Reflex (co.) 3:39
21. "Cold Game" (featuring LaToiya Williams) 3:49

  

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4. "I like it as well, though it suffers from what every modern Snoop album ..."
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It's too long/bloated.

I know that's a cliched response for hip hop these days, but his shit is always 3 or 4 tracks too lengthy.

The very good to great songs ("Gang Bang Rookie", "I Don't Need No Bitch", "Sumethin Like This Night") are outstanding, but he needs someone to trim the fat.

And that Willie Nelson collaboration may have seen like a cool idea on paper, the two posterboys for smoking weed on a song together, but boy does it suck.

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6. "agree 100%"
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I thought some of Snoop's albums within the last ten years could have been near classics if he would have cut 5-6 songs.

I know he makes a shitload of music but he needs to cut himself off at 14-15 tracks no exceptions.

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7. "yea like Blue capret treatment having a song about his football"
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team....like what the fuck beat up on ya pads...like why the fuck you thought this fit on the album

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8. "He needs an executive producer"
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I'd say Dre, but then we all know that just means the shit will never come out because it'll never be good enough to release.

And I don't know if Snoop would entrust anyone else or that role because, quite frankly, in terms of status and accomplishments in the game, who trumps him, producer or artist?

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14. "lol"
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>I'd say Dre, but then we all know that just means the shit
>will never come out because it'll never be good enough to
>release.
>

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9. "I like that Snoop albums are stupid long because..."
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His songs go in a bunch of different directions, which is why I hated Malice In Wonderland so much. True you are bound to dislike about 5 tracks, but you'll like 15!

I agree about the Willie Nelson songs tho, that should've been a leak instead of an album cut.

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23. "the beats are fan fucking tastic...almost everyone brought their"
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A game for this one

  

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26. "this is also the first snoop album WITHOUT a neptunes beat"
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in 10 years...interesting

  

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35. "and as a result it sucks ass"
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40. "?"
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46. "RE: ?"
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I had the same reaction.

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27. "Yeah, it's pretty good"
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30. "listening now..."
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>no posts on that doggumentary? this might be his best album
>since blue carpet treatment

Man...I'm early on, but the first thing that jumps out...these tracks go hard. Mixing "Oh Honey" with "Dirty Lowdown"? Hell yeah.

All Snoop has to show up and not ruin most of these songs. And his writers have been on the ball lately. Sad times, but hey...

And yeah...like everyone says, there's gonna be 5 stinkers because the albums are wild long. Its crazy to think that he has 100 or so songs or more per album session. I shudder to think what type of jams exist from the R&G and Blue Carpet sessions that we'll never hear.

Oh...Jeezy IS alive. Where in the blue hell is TM103? I like Ross more than a lot, but damn...the CO couldn't be indirectly messing up Jeezy's stroke at DJ that bad, right? Trap or Die 2 got dope album-level spins from me.

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31. "RE: listening now..."
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>All Snoop has to show up and not ruin most of these songs. And
>his writers have been on the ball lately. Sad times, but
>hey...

I realize what you're saying, but I hate this sentiment about Snoop. Yea he's not as great as he once was, but he's still dynamic on a beat when he does it right...which I think is more often than not. His voice still carries on a track better than a lot of people's. And his flow is impeccable.

That said, his albums are usually too long haha.

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33. "RE: listening now..."
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>>All Snoop has to show up and not ruin most of these songs.
>And
>>his writers have been on the ball lately. Sad times, but
>>hey...
>
>I realize what you're saying, but I hate this sentiment about
>Snoop. Yea he's not as great as he once was, but he's still
>dynamic on a beat when he does it right...which I think is
>more often than not. His voice still carries on a track
>better than a lot of people's. And his flow is impeccable.
>
>That said, his albums are usually too long haha.

Yep. I'd say and hold onto the argument that Snoop is a better emcee now than he was in his heyday. He had a couple of dark periods where he was izzling and shizzling his way through waaaaay too many verses, but now he goes off at least one good time every album for the last 5 or so releases. I still go max volume on Promise I from R&G every time it pops up on my iPod. Really, R&G fully renewed my faith and appreciation for Snoop. The Tunes just did a good job with him and so many of those songs just worked. I thought Blue Carpet had a slew of good songs too, but I swear between that, the Bsides CD that came out right after and the 100 or so songs that we never heard, a better album was hanging out somewhere.

Ego Trippin kinda pissed me off because I thought that he'd go off and 80s his way through the whole thing with stuff like the mellow stuff from the 213 sessions and the Prince/Stevie stuff that Terrace Martin and them have been making (and I love all of it). Then I get the album and he's rapping over Jeezy tracks for a few songs for no good reason at all.

It sucks that he probably doesn't have any silky freestyles left in him like The Shiznit, which was dope in a lot of ways but seeing it written down is less than mindblowing. Still, it would be cool as hell if he did that nowadays every now and again. Add that he clearly has writers and has for years and folks are gonna be skeptical.

The thing with me is the fact that we know for sure that he's recording a gang of songs for every album and still managing to have 5 almost flat out bad songs on every release only to have at least that many bangin songs leak and/or get dropped months later. Its like West Coast Nas.

I agree with the idea that he needs a good exec producer to get stuff even more right for him. And hell naw it shouldn't be no-album releasing ass Dr. Dre.

Its great to think that Snoop, Ghost, and Rae are still releasing music that makes me appreciate their existence. And Snoop has the nerve to have at least one hit or three every couple years. Doggumentary has like 4 or 5 depending on what gets released. Hell, he has 3 songs from this album playing on ESPN right now.

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44. "RE: listening now..."
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Yea I can see what you're saying about him being a better MC now. He was always dynamic because of his voice, flow and personality on the mic, but you're right in that he didn't do anything mindblowing lyrically even on Doggystyle, he just made simple rhymes sound sooooooooooooooo ill. And yea Snoop knows what he's doing. Even this new album, as excellent as I think it is, could still use 5 or 6 songs less, and it would be an almost flawless release. It's almost a chore to get through the whole thing despite the fact that most of it is really good, if that makes sense.

Yea I was disappointed in Ego Trippin too. Blue Carpet was so fucking good (IMO his second best to Doggystyle) and like you said, the collaborations he had around the time ET dropped let me to believe he was going in a different direction. There was a few great tracks on there (Press Play immediately comes to mind) but I don't listen to more than 5 tracks on there often.

Yea you're right about Snoop and Nas too. And I feel similarly about Snoop still dropping quality work this far into his career, especially since it's clear he has other ways of making money and doesn't really need to put out albums anymore. It's clear he still loves it and that's why we get an album like Doggumentary.

I was thinking about how I'd rate his albums after I got Doggumentary yesterday. I think it looks something like this:

1. Doggystyle
2. Blue Carpet Treatment
3. Tha Last Meal
4. No Limit Top Dogg
5. R&G
6. Paid tha Cost to Be da Boss
7. Tha Doggfather
8. Ego Trippin'
9. Malice n Wonderland
1000000000000000000000000. Da Game is to Be Sold

Obviously being only two listens or so into Doggumentary I'm not ready to rank it, but judging by first impressions I think it'll fall firmly into third place on that list. I'm really digging this album a lot.

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58. "*Orders special diver's suit to see how low Da Game is rated*"
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60. "Ahahahahahaha."
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One of the worst albums ever made in the history of mankind.

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63. "Its the mumbling and whispering"
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>One of the worst albums ever made in the history of mankind.

Haha! 'History of mankind'!? Damn...I'd love to argue that but...

Snoop went from being smooth, mellow, dope, and great on everything up through Murder was the Case Soundtrack to being a mumbling and whispering dude who flat out sounded scared to rap for a bulk of two albums. My thing is...it started on Doggfather when the whole world was waiting for the follow-up to Doggystyle.

Doggfather hit my whole crew really tough..in a bad way. In short, we hated that album because we expected waaaay too much and got killed on it because it wasn't that good. No Dre, No Pac (he was alive!), hardly any DPG..Snoop's mumbling and whispering..damnit Calvin. Years later, there's a small handful of jamming songs that kinda sorta redeem it. Wake Up, Groupie, You Thought...pretty jamming. But the damn whispering and mumbling was unbearable on that album for me!

Game to be sold..honestly, I liked that one a little more than Doggfather. That written, it was still bad..especially looking back now. I remember Don't Let Go and Game of Life being good to me. Still a G Thang gave me faith that his career wasn't completely over. I can't think of anything else because Down 4 my niggas was on something else...

The way I saw it, Top Dogg had NO business having as many jams as it did considering he was still fully on No Limit. Suga Free made my year on Trust Me (Pimpin ain't easy but ho'n ain't hard nooooo...lady you 'gon haveta hooo or lady I'ma haveta gooo! See ya! Sugafreeee!). Bitch Please is of course an anthem (RIP Nate). I loved Just Dippin, Doin Too Much (Quik!), and Don't Tell with the whole crew there ready to be as offensive as ever on a mellow jam was my jam too. It was like a new Ain't No Fun..complete with a Nate verse that is hilariously offensive to this day. 'Next time you can't cuuuuuum if you got a loud touuuuuuuuunge! I know I gotta big diiiiiiick! Shouldn't loan it to a triiiiiiick' Bwahaha!

Last Meal was flat out jamming to me. Lay Low, Wrong Idea, True Lies, that song with Suga Free. It was like Kokane became his new Nate Dogg for a whole album and the result was just West Coast rider music all the way through. Wasn't Timbo's Snoop Dogg on there too!? Opening iTunes now..typing in snoop into my library. Oh yeah...Brake Fluid!? Bitch pump yo brakes!...hoooo! Hell yeah, that CD jammed.

R&G..I swear by my five favorite songs on that record as easily amongst the best of Snoop's catalog. The intro, Drop it like its hot (the first time I heard that song was the first time I was in Vegas...I KNEW it was on), UPS AND DOWNS (in the biggest font I can type with..my goodness that damn song is just the best), and Promise I.

Side note: I swear by a lot of that 213 record too. The bootleg was better than the release. Anyway, Nate's greatness as a hook/bridge/chant cat who had no qualms about coming out with something outlandish kinda carried Snoop and Warren on that one, but its not like they made it too tough for him. I'm Fly, Sassy Ways, Run on Up, Groupie Luv, etc...

Ego Trippin...we all apparently need a support group for that album. Neva Have 2 Worry, SD is out, Sexual Eruption, and a couple of other songs get my vote as the goods. Snoop/Quik/Teddy on the production!? How could that go wrong!? Oh...they could only produce a few of the songs on the album and the rest of the album can basically suck. Damnit Calvin! Tricked me again!

Overall, color me pleasantly surprised with Snoop's catalog as a whole. There's a barrage of jamming ass songs throughout his existence, and this new disc adds several more to the collection. I saw him live in Houston a few years ago. It was a good show even if the playlist was 'safer' than I would've liked AND he showed up crazy late (12:30 AM when he was listed to go on at like 10 PM). Still, Kurupt, Daz, and Soopafly were on the scene, and Snoop sounded great too. I was scared that a weed cat like him might sound far more sluggish, but Snoop was at least at a JayZ level of show professionalism, clarity, etc. And he jumped around happily like a dude who was happy to be presenting his material to a crowd of folks who were still receptive.

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68. "Yep, in the history of mankind!"
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I stand by that statement. Snoop was out of his element. He didn't belong on those BBTP beats at all, and 98% of the music was forced and corny. It's like...BBTP tried to take their bass heavy southern shit and make it sound "west coast", and Snoop tried to take his lazy west coast drawl and make it sound "southern" and what resulted was an absolute shitshow mess of an album that should have never ever seen the light of day.

Add to that the pen and pixel album cover and I puked while buying it. Album sucks.

I mean yea at the time you probly liked it better than Doggfather but think about it, do you ever listen to any one song off that album ever? If you can name one joint that you still throw on to this day on some "that's my shit!" I'll be impressed/disappointed (you know what I'm saying). I have Snoop's ENTIRE catalogue (including 213, Eastsidaz albums, Murder Was the Case, even the internet only CD for Smokefest World Tour released while he was a free agent), besides Da Game...because I snapped that shit in half a year or so after buying it. Just a miserable blemish on an otherwise pretty damn good career like you and I both outlined. Utterly unlistenable album. And by the way it sounds as if we agree about this so I'm not arguing so much as I'm just reiterating how bad it was.

By the way...you forgot Press Play from Ego Trippin! Best song on that whole shit. But yes that album was otherwise fully disappointing.

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73. "History has been fairly kind to Doggfather"
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Not so to "Da Game." I mean "Doggfather" was so disappointing to so many when it first came out (and in the few years following, when everybody decided en masse that it was terrible), it can't help but rise in estimation once you get a little distance from it. It's actually not terrible, it just suffers from coming after such a classic. Both the production and Snoop sound like pale imitations of the previous album. But it's not actively terrible like "Game."

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75. "Agreed 1000%"
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It suffers the same fate as It Was Written, though Doggfather isn't on the level of IWW so don't get me wrong. But there's no way it could've lived up to Doggystyle no matter what it was.

But yes, years later there's plenty of jams on that album and I actually really like a lot of it.

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72. "RE: Its the mumbling and whispering"
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i felt the same way about the whispering on Godfather.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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53. "RE: listening now..."
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when did snoop stop writing his own rhymes?

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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54. "He didn't "stop" writing them."
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He just doesn't write all of them anymore. I think he first mentioned having ghostwriters for certain songs around the time Ego Trippin came out.

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32. "This shit's only gonna be $7.99 at Best Buy"
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Copped, just because.

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43. "Wow, and I got a $25 gift card"
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36. "yo what is the sample on 'the way life used to be'?"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bOPUBUtzek

it was an intro used before another rap song.
this shit killin meh.

  

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39. "just figured it out:"
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the original was club nouveau:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3-6O7btipo

but ashanti was the most recent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kULxJrsxchs

  

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37. "where would y'all rank it among the last few?"
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say from R&G onward

  

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47. "Ha ha I just tried to rank all his albums in reply 44..."
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before reading this. Check it out. I think it's second only to Blue Carpet amongst his R&G and after releases. Honestly I think it's his third best album just based on first impression. He really went in on this one and the beats are impeccable.

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48. "thanks"
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i skipped 'malice' and 'more malice' and was a little disappointed after buying 'ego trippin',' so i wanted to check first before diving back in

  

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49. "Yea, def worth the cop IMO"
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I was equally disappointed in Ego Trippin and Malice is pretty forgettable. He stepped it back up on this one tho for sure.

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38. ""I Don't Need No Bitch" is fire. DJ Khalil stays on point"
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"Cold Game" and "We Rest In Cali" are dope as well.

  

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50. "Maaan phuckit. I'm gonna do what I haven't done since Top Dogg"
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and buy it without listening to any more tracks. I've heard like 5-6, which is already too many...but hearing Youtube tracks and downloading it just doesn't give me the same reaction as buying it and playing it straight thru from start to finish. So yeah, I'm gonna take it back to 99 n do that shit on Tuesday...I'll do the same with Quik if I can.

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51. "It's worth it bro."
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I did it with Ego Trippin and was so let down I skipped buying Malice alltogether until I got it recently (and still didn't really like it). This album is hella worth it.

And Quik...I can't fuckin wait for that Quik album.

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52. "everybody and they mama luv snoop....."
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This record makes it easy to see why. Jake One laying down some authentic jr. P-funk wit Bootsy to make it official? Mr. Porter on the hook channeling the spirit of Curtis Mayfield? Khalifa leaving that sing songy s**t at the door and entering the booth with a purpose?! KOKANE?! Snoop with a vison/message that he keeps up through the majority of the album. Geting my support on release day, no question.

I agree, 5 or so tracks removed, and this would be an album that gets spun from top to bottom every time. But I'm not complaining by any means. There is alot of knowledge in this thread. I was lovin R&G and Blue Carpet when they dropped. I was let down by ego trippin. It only got worse with malice. But doggumentary wipes the slate clean. Add to that that Dam-Funk said that he's been sliding Snoop a couple tracks, and I'm hopeful for Snoops next record before this one even drops.

But hold up....Snoop has writers? I got some audio homework to do....

Book of David can't be slackin after this.......

  

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55. "Halfway in and I'm really impressed"
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The album sounds great and not a lot of missteps so far. More thoughts after another 1.5 spins.

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56. "My only criticisms after multiple listens are..."
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1. That there were two instances of tracks that were essentially the exact same song. It was Platinum and Boom, then We Rest in Cali and El Lay (and ironically all of these songs are back to back to back to back). So basically Snoop decided to have two club songs featuring r&b singers (if you can call T-Pain that, I know) back to back, followed by two songs about California back to back. In neither case did one bring more to the table than the other. I just didn't think it was necessary to include the same song twice...twice.

If I had to chooce, I'm taking Boom (though I heavily prefer Kels to T-Pain anyday, I think Boom was the more enjoyable song overall) and We Rest in Cali (loved that beat).

2. My Fuc'n House. That song sucks. Ass. Miserable fucking song.


Other than that, I can't complain about this album at all. Snoop did his thing for sure, and the beats are excellent.

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57. "This"
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>2. My Fuc'n House. That song sucks. Ass. Miserable fucking
>song.

I agree, out of what I've heard so far that shit is the only serious mood-breaker and the one instance where I think an exec producer with a good ear would have said, "Hey Snoop? This is garbage and it's interfering with the flow of things. Dump it."

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59. "lol...y'all is crazy...that track is BANGER...best rick rock beat"
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i've heard in a while

  

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69. "Even if you like it, you have to admit"
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that it doesn't sound like a Snoop song, and it's really out of place on this album.

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61. "Yep."
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You said it...it completely interrupts the flow of the album. The rest of it has a certain sound, very west coast for the most part. This track just screams...I don't know. It screams "I shouldn't have made this album".

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62. "Old white lady at Best Buy's SoundScan guesstimation puts Snoop @ #1"
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65. "Ahead of Wiz and/or Britney? Doubtful"
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67. "Lol, I don't care. I'm just sayin, Ms. Ethel said Snoop was movin units."
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As I always say, I don't give a shit if it doesn't sell one disc after I copped mine.

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70. "His last album sold 50,000 his first week, and had two bigger hits"
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But this one has MUCH better word of mouth buzz, so we'll see.

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64. "Battlecat laced him...I'm loving this shit"
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71. "i'll check this out"
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?uest even tweeted about this album.

Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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74. "RE: so snoop quietly dropped a banger"
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8 tracks in and this is another wack Snoop album with please everyone beats.


get with Daz & Soopafly and get back to what made you great in the first place.

  

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76. "I think Dre is what made him great in the first place..."
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and if anything, Daz and Soopafly let him down quite a bit after the fact with their work on Tha Doggfather.

But certainly, you're entitled to your opinion on the matter.

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77. "RE: I think Dre is what made him great in the first place..."
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the sound of 'Dogg Food' & 'Revenge, Retaliation & Get Back' is what i'm speaking too.



as opposed to the sound of 'The Marshal Mathers LP' or 'Relapse'.

  

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78. "Haha - alright."
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I'll grant you Dogg Food.

And if you're comparing Doggumentary to Marshall Mathers LP and Relapse, we're not going to go anywhere with this discussion.

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79. "RE: Haha - alright."
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just pointing out that Daz & Soopafly are more inclined to provide that vintage Snoop sound than Dre.


this new album has no menace in it's sound. happy, bubbly Bootsy appearances and Scott Storch sampling that wack song.


shit sounds corny. a few decent to good tracks and tons of forgettable shit.

  

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80. "Fair enough."
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I hear you, and it's all opinion.

I just don't personally think Snoop has to be menacing for me to like him. If anything, his persona of the last 4 albums or so has been fun and refreshing and I welcome it. He's a 40+ year old family man; similar to Dre, the last thing I care to hear him rapping about is popping guns and gangbanging.

Is this an all time great album? No, I just think it's a step up from his last 2.

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81. "RE: Fair enough."
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with Nate Dogg's passing, i went back and revisited all that super classic post 'Doggystyle' stuff they all did on soundtracks and shit. that shit was so cold.


this is goofy cuddle bug Snoop. it's lame.

  

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82. "RE: Fair enough."
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this Kanye & John legend track is awful....wow.

  

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83. "I really don't know what to tell you..."
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I mean, nothing will ever compare to that mid to late 90s west coast g-funk Nate Dogg laced stuff. But IMO, if Snoop were to try it would come across as forced and contrived, and would sound corny as shit.

Is the new stuff as good? No...but what could ever be as good as that stuff? Again, trying to recreate it would be disingenuous, and come out sounding too forced. I'd rather him go in another direction even if it's not as dynamic. And again, he's 40+ years old, he's not gonna be making 20-something music in his 40s, and if he did, that would suck.

But yes, Who Got Some Gangsta Shit? and shit like that is unbeatable. But asking someone to recreate that type of stuff is kind of ridiculous.

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84. "RE: I think Dre is what made him great in the first place..."
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>the sound of 'Dogg Food' & 'Revenge, Retaliation & Get Back'
>is what i'm speaking too.


yeah that was daz & soopafly at their peak....but if you haven't noticed in the last 13 years they both fell the fuck off and now are releasing music just for their european fanbase

  

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85. "RE: I think Dre is what made him great in the first place..."
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Soopafly still has a semblance of the sound that made him great if memory serves.

  

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86. "there are probably 3 or 4 throaway cuts from being his best album ever"
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There are some songs on here that rival some his greatest cuts. Everything he did with Jake and Battlecat is flames. I'm not a big Wiz Khalifa fan. But that shit is dope to me. It was one of the collabs that you see on paper and think it's going so premeditated that it's weak. But that shit go.

  

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90. "Best ever? You really think so?"
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C'mon.

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101. "Exclude the compilations I only see Doggystyle and BCT"
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those are the only two albums with comparable number of dope songs on it. Probably should have put "one of" in front of "the best". But yeah.

  

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103. "Haha - ok phew"
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I was gonna say - Doggystyle can't be beaten for that top spot whether you clean up the filler on this album or not.

And no I wasn't including compilations...I was literally just worried that you actually thought any Snoop album at this point could ever be better than Doggystyle.

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98. "Nahhhhh nothing quite that good. At BEST, maybe 5th best album?"
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I mean to me, Snoop really doesn't have a single WAAAAAACK album...even the worst ones still had enough good songs to be average-decent albums, like the first NL one.

But this is obviously NOWHERE near Doggystyle...and Top Dogg + Last Meal are def better than this. BCT is still better as well. This might rival Paid the cost, and it's better than Ego Trippin and Malice. I MIGHT say it's better than Doggfather, but even that had some HITS...I played OJ Wake up on a radio show Thursday LOL.

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102. "what do you consider a snoop album? because he got a bunch of "
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comps. I'm not counting those.

  

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104. "I only count his actual albums too. I don't count Dead man walking"
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But the usual Discography you'd see on Wiki. Doggystyle, Doggfather, Game to be sold, Top Dogg, Last meal, Paid cost, R&G, BCT, Ego, Malice, and Doggumentary

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106. "Paid The Cost is underrated even by Snoop fans, that's his second-best"
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album to me.

  

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107. "I love Stoplight, Beautiful, & Pimp Slapp'd"
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Beautiful is easily one of my favorite Snoop songs.

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108. "One and Only is a jam too."
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109. "I'm a fan of all those you guys mentioned plus love:"
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Boss Playa<<<<<<<<this joint is one of my favorite Snoop cuts ever, shit is so smooth but with a touch of menace.
Paper'd Up
I Miss That Bitch
Wasn't Your Fault
Batman & Robin
Lollipop
Suited & Booted

I just love the feel of this album & where Snoop is as a man/artist at this point in time. Finally free of No Limit, which was necessary just to get him away from Death Row, this feels like Snoop had a weight lifted off his shoulders & could do what he wanted to do.

It feels more West-Coast than any record he'd made in awhile (with Jelly Roll, Fredwreck, Battlecat, Meech Wells, E-Swift.....basically every Westcoast producer that mattered outside the two biggest) but then again it also had Snoop on multiple Neptunes, Hi-Tek, & Primo tracks.

The most pimped-out album he'd done but that fit the whole motif of him evolving & becoming his own man rather than just being about going hard on hoes (and he saved his best slaps for Suge).

There's even a bit of dare I say maturity on this one that felt natural, coming during the time with the weed hiatus, football league start-up, etc.

He carried the momentum from Paid The Cost into R&G/Blue Carpet but to me this album was the catalyst that for me remains the best of the three.

Like any Snoop album not named Doggystyle, there's no justifying the 75+ minute track length but you pick your spots & there's a lot of great stuff remaining after you locate the joints you skip.

  

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88. "I love it,imo his best since Blue Carpet Treatment"
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89. "this might make me check it out on the strength"
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>no posts on that doggumentary? this might be his best album
>since blue carpet treatment

bct was his second best album, easily to me

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91. "Same here about BCT..."
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and take it from me, this Doggumentary may take second place after I see how it stands the test of time with me.

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92. "RE: Same here about BCT..."
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lies. this album is wack.


BCT, both the albums that Pharrel was involved with, The Last Meal & Top Dogg are all way better.


shit, Doggfather is better, too.



this may be the third worst Snoop album i've heard only besting Da Game is To Be Sold & Malice In Wonderland.

  

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93. "Haha @ Doggfather"
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I mean, I guess Small Pro deserves all opinions on the matter. But judging by this post you're in the minority for sure. So Pro should take that for what it's worth.

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94. "RE: Haha @ Doggfather"
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i really don't see what's to like about this album. even when he manages to get a decent producer like Jake One, Khalil or Battlecat involved the results are forgettable. he managed to create a marginal devin the dude hook helmed song. that's nearly impossible to do yet he found a way.

  

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97. "Ooooookkk dogg."
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We get it. You don't like it. You've made it abundantly clear. Go do something else.

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95. "Yo I love Battlecat as much as the next man n/h but sometimes"
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the beats are a lil sloppy sounding

I know that's for a funk effect but yo shit is confusing lol

Ain't saying it isn't dope but wow shit is a sloppy mess

  

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99. "Wonder what it do is perfection tho!"
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makaveli
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111. "RE: Wonder what it do is perfection tho!"
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yeah this is my favorite track so far.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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Bombastic
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112. "really is, perfect LA driving music this past weekend for me"
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dalecooper
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100. "I like the way those beats sound"
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They're just sloppy enough. Madlib sometimes pushes that too far but I think Battlecat did a great job here.

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T Reynolds
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96. "Also he's from LB yo why he shouting out Raskals in the intro"
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That can be easily interpreted as a TRG thing

  

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Conscious
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110. "RE: so snoop quietly dropped a banger"
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Superman (Feat. Willie Nelson) made me smile.
it's a pretty good album...

#thefutureofradio http://bit.ly/BRIndieGoGo
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audio journaling: unkempt > http://bit.ly/ajunkempt < be courageous

  

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