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Bambino Grande
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"So Cheetoh paid $750 in taxes the year he became pres? SMFH"


          


TL y'all probably DR: *Their* president is going broke, according to NYT

Started swiping but its long as hell, but this mf.....

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html

THE PRESIDENT’S TAXES
LONG-CONCEALED RECORDS SHOW TRUMP’S CHRONIC LOSSES AND YEARS OF TAX AVOIDANCE

The Times obtained Donald Trump’s tax information extending over more than two decades, revealing struggling properties, vast write-offs, an audit battle and hundreds of millions in debt coming due.

Donald J. Trump paid $750 in federal income taxes the year he won the presidency. In his first year in the White House, he paid another $750.

He had paid no income taxes at all in 10 of the previous 15 years — largely because he reported losing much more money than he made.

As the president wages a re-election campaign that polls say he is in danger of losing, his finances are under stress, beset by losses and hundreds of millions of dollars in debt coming due that he has personally guaranteed. Also hanging over him is a decade-long audit battle with the Internal Revenue Service over the legitimacy of a $72.9 million tax refund that he claimed, and received, after declaring huge losses. An adverse ruling could cost him more than $100 million.


The tax returns that Mr. Trump has long fought to keep private tell a story fundamentally different from the one he has sold to the American public. His reports to the I.R.S. portray a businessman who takes in hundreds of millions of dollars a year yet racks up chronic losses that he aggressively employs to avoid paying taxes. Now, with his financial challenges mounting, the records show that he depends more and more on making money from businesses that put him in potential and often direct conflict of interest with his job as president.

The New York Times has obtained tax-return data extending over more than two decades for Mr. Trump and the hundreds of companies that make up his business organization, including detailed information from his first two years in office. It does not include his personal returns for 2018 or 2019. This article offers an overview of The Times’s findings; additional articles will be published in the coming weeks.

The returns are some of the most sought-after, and speculated-about, records in recent memory. In Mr. Trump’s nearly four years in office — and across his endlessly hyped decades in the public eye — journalists, prosecutors, opposition politicians and conspiracists have, with limited success, sought to excavate the enigmas of his finances. By their very nature, the filings will leave many questions unanswered, many questioners unfulfilled. They comprise information that Mr. Trump has disclosed to the I.R.S., not the findings of an independent financial examination. They report that Mr. Trump owns hundreds of millions of dollars in valuable assets, but they do not reveal his true wealth. Nor do they reveal any previously unreported connections to Russia.

  

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this shit is a farce
Sep 27th 2020
1
How so? Expound...
Sep 27th 2020
4
This nigga (c) Wesley Snipes
Sep 27th 2020
2
Chickens coming home.
Sep 27th 2020
3
Dogg.
Sep 27th 2020
Dogg.
Sep 27th 2020
5
lol
Sep 27th 2020
6
^^Eventually I’ll be right ^^
Sep 27th 2020
9
about a career fkng criminal? you damn skippy
Sep 27th 2020
30
MUELLER TIME
Sep 27th 2020
15
i told you clowns if it wasnt Mueller it would be Tish James
Sep 27th 2020
17
bro, you said Barr was gonna turn on Trump
Sep 27th 2020
19
i said he should... I also said it was going to be Tish James if not Mue...
Sep 27th 2020
29
      you didn't say 'should', stop, man lol
Sep 27th 2020
34
           dude said Pence was getting indicted one week lol
Sep 27th 2020
35
Dogg.
Sep 27th 2020
22
Parscale know everybody goin. including himself (swipe)
Sep 27th 2020
31
      pats head...yeah he is going to flip. Brad, Pence, Barr, hell Ivanka
Sep 27th 2020
36
           yeah ok. keep thinking that.
Sep 27th 2020
37
                Dogg.
Sep 28th 2020
52
                     lol
Sep 28th 2020
66
RE: i told you clowns if it wasnt Mueller it would be Tish James
Sep 28th 2020
55
lol
Sep 28th 2020
45
oh shit!
Sep 28th 2020
47
I think it’s safe to assume he’s committed crimes in multiple states
Sep 27th 2020
7
Bitch, he’s broke
Sep 27th 2020
8
https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/uv8o_agzw.GMSjASCQnpqw--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWl...
Sep 27th 2020
10
i was skeptical whether this story would resonate
Sep 27th 2020
11
If they manage to boil down the main narrative right
Sep 27th 2020
12
'trump pays less in taxes than you do.'
Sep 27th 2020
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      Trump paid Stormy D 200 times more than he paid America
Sep 27th 2020
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           that's pretty good
Sep 27th 2020
25
           i saw someone call trump a freeloader.
Sep 27th 2020
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$750 is such an unfathomably small number for taxes
Sep 27th 2020
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      especially when you consider the low amount of unemployment payments
Sep 27th 2020
32
Don’t know if this is related but still, lol
Sep 27th 2020
18
As a person who has struggled with mental health I find it heartbreaking
Sep 27th 2020
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      yeah I don’t mean to make fun of his mental health
Sep 27th 2020
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           I have zero sympathy or compassion for any of these people
Sep 27th 2020
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                Preach preach preach.
Sep 28th 2020
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                i stand in this line too
Sep 28th 2020
60
                Apparently he beat up his wife as well
Sep 28th 2020
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                     Haha exactly. He doesn't deserve our sympathy. Fuck him.
Sep 28th 2020
68
Poor Ivanka
Sep 27th 2020
20
I'm roughly half way through (20% chapter) and my mind is numb
Sep 27th 2020
21
Shout out to the Times for, you know, protecting their source
Sep 27th 2020
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thank God the source wasnt intercepted.
Sep 27th 2020
33
In reality,
Sep 28th 2020
46
Amazed they managed to keep this under wraps
Sep 28th 2020
44
Won't matter
Sep 27th 2020
38
It does matter
Sep 28th 2020
49
      This here WON'T MATTER
Sep 28th 2020
51
           You should just stop trying everything in life then right?
Sep 28th 2020
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                No, hammer him on the DEATHS
Sep 28th 2020
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                     Por que no los dos
Sep 28th 2020
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                          Okay, you changed my mind: This matters a tiny bit
Sep 28th 2020
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                               Wtf is this bullshit.
Sep 28th 2020
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                               I'm not disagreeing with you
Sep 28th 2020
75
btw mueller could have investigated all of this.
Sep 27th 2020
39
to add insult to injury:
Sep 27th 2020
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Lmao yeah that one hurts lol
Sep 28th 2020
41
His main defense «its illegal to show my taxes until after the audit» ...
Sep 28th 2020
42
Y’all these Biden / Harris official campaign stickers are priced at $7...
Sep 28th 2020
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that’s pretty good marketing
Sep 29th 2020
81
That number is so fucking insulting
Sep 28th 2020
48
RBTL, is Trump really a billionaire?
Sep 28th 2020
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When he refused to show his taxes that should’ve told everyone
Sep 28th 2020
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He's a billion dollars in DEBT.
Sep 28th 2020
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He’s a pillionaire and that’s it. Transient have more money
Sep 28th 2020
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forbes and probably others say his businesses are worth 3 billion
Sep 29th 2020
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I hope alot of conservatives are re-evaluating their deal w the devil
Sep 28th 2020
54
The Southern District of NY
Sep 28th 2020
56
Wesley Snipes, Ronald Isley, and Lauryn Hill had to do time
Sep 28th 2020
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I think he will get away with it legally and politically though...
Sep 28th 2020
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agreed.
Sep 28th 2020
63
Yea we learned that his dad taught him this ...
Sep 28th 2020
64
This was all discussed basically in 2016. He said "that makes me
Sep 28th 2020
65
His orbit has been filled with grifters and idiots, laywers included.
Sep 28th 2020
72
yeah, people are getting away
Sep 28th 2020
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Not filthy rich, but bitch, I'm barely broke (c) Tweeter Gunz
Sep 28th 2020
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Why did I not see this article blow up (re: Qatari corruption)
Sep 28th 2020
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... I pay more in taxes than the President.
Sep 28th 2020
79
independents and normally apolitical people.
Sep 29th 2020
80
This right here. We’re completely numb to any “scandal”
Sep 29th 2020
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I noticed this, too.
Sep 29th 2020
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Lmao.. as soon as Baseball got in on it people lost their empathy
Sep 29th 2020
85
Social media stats agree with you.
Sep 29th 2020
84
      damn thats massive.
Sep 29th 2020
93
i loved that they already got ads out showing all the "regular" job...
Sep 29th 2020
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He's of course spinning it by saying he's a brilliant businessman
Sep 29th 2020
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      Yea I was just talking to someone about this.
Sep 29th 2020
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Who does Trump owe hundreds of millions of dollars to? (swipe)
Sep 29th 2020
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man, listen...
Sep 29th 2020
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Biden Releases Tax Returns Ahead of Debate With Trump
Sep 29th 2020
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What makes this hit different is it's presented in dollars, not tax rate...
Sep 29th 2020
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1. "this shit is a farce"
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peace & blessings,

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4. "How so? Expound..."
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2. "This nigga (c) Wesley Snipes"
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3. "Chickens coming home."
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Trumps goin to prison like i said.

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"Dogg."


          

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5. "Dogg."
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6. "lol"
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9. "^^Eventually I’ll be right ^^"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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30. "about a career fkng criminal? you damn skippy"
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15. "MUELLER TIME"
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17. "i told you clowns if it wasnt Mueller it would be Tish James"
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yall laughed. I told you as soon as he wasnt president he was going. dont let me start pulling receipts...

Trump going to prison like i said for old tax shit and fraud in NY. Wait til they get to the Trump Org. part and all the other shit.

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19. "bro, you said Barr was gonna turn on Trump"
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as soon as he saw all the shit Mueller had on him


>yall laughed. I told you as soon as he wasnt president he was
>going. dont let me start pulling receipts...
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>Trump going to prison like i said for old tax shit and fraud
>in NY. Wait til they get to the Trump Org. part and all the
>other shit.

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29. "i said he should... I also said it was going to be Tish James if not Mue..."
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the bottom line is hes going to prison like i said.., you cant lie on a bank loan app and claim huge assets and claim broke to the IRS. This is only the tip of the iceberg bro.

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34. "you didn't say 'should', stop, man lol"
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you said Barr wasn't the lackey Trump thinks he is.

I remember it well because i wanted to believe you. we ALL want you to be right, man lol

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35. "dude said Pence was getting indicted one week lol"
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Barr was going to take down Trump like some convoluted movie plot the next

I've never wanted someone so clearly out of touch and uninformed to by right so much...even though he was oddly a condescending asshole about it.

He went into hiding for months...probably should have just gotten a new login.







  

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22. "Dogg."
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31. "Parscale know everybody goin. including himself (swipe)"
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he either bout to start snitchin..or he know he safer in the hospital or both.



Former Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale hospitalized following reported suicide attempt


https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/27/politics/brad-parscale-hospitalized/index.html

(CNN)President Donald Trump's former campaign manager Brad Parscale was hospitalized Sunday following reports of a suicide attempt at his Florida home, CNN has learned.

According to Fort Lauderdale Police Department Sgt. DeAnna Greenlaw, Fort Lauderdale police officers responded to Parscale's residence "in reference to an armed male attempting suicide." Officers later identified him to CNN as Bradley Parscale and said his wife had called the police.

"When officers arrived on scene, they made contact with the armed subject's wife, who advised her husband was armed and had access to multiple firearms inside the residence and was threatening to harm himself," Greenlaw told CNN in a statement. The officers determined the only person inside the home was the adult male.

Greenlaw said officers contacted Parscale, "developed a rapport, and safely negotiated for him to exit the home. The male was detained without injury and transported to Broward Health Medical Center for a Baker Act."

Fort Lauderdale Police Chief Karen Dietrich told CNN over the phone there was a concern that Parscale may harm himself, and his wife reported there were weapons in the home. The SWAT team responded and after a short time Parscale surrendered to police, Dietrich said.
"He came out and we got him some help," Dietrich said.
Parscale was demoted from his position this summer after Trump's rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Though he maintained a senior position on the campaign, he was rarely seen inside the headquarters following his demotion.

Tim Murtaugh, the Trump campaign's communications manager, told CNN in a statement, "Brad Parscale is a member of our family and we all love him. We are ready to support him and his family in any way possible."
The Baker Act is a Florida law that enables families to provide emergency mental health services and temporary detention for people impaired by mental illness, according to University of Florida Health.

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36. "pats head...yeah he is going to flip. Brad, Pence, Barr, hell Ivanka"
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are all flipping any day now.


Trump is not going to prison. No matter how much we want it, it isn't going to happen man. just stop.


Plenty of "career criminals" have never seen the inside of a jail cell.


And the US isn't going to put an ex Pres in jail.


You're wrong. You've been wrong. Wrong and loud. But, shockingly wrong.

Just take the Ls and stop now.

  

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37. "yeah ok. keep thinking that."
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i already told you what was going to happen. no matter how it happened.

i told you dude cant keep getting away with criminal shit. it would eventually catch up.



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55. "RE: i told you clowns if it wasnt Mueller it would be Tish James"
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>Wait til they get to the Trump Org. part and all the
>other shit.

If I'm not mistaken, Leticia James already stopped Trump Org from operating as a non-profit because it was revealed they were pretty much a slush fund for the family. I could be mistaken.

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45. "lol"
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47. "oh shit! "
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7. "I think it’s safe to assume he’s committed crimes in multiple states"
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He’s a criminal.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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8. "Bitch, he’s broke"
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https://youtu.be/0yiX_mIrcrE

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10. "https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/uv8o_agzw.GMSjASCQnpqw--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWl..."
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http://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/uv8o_agzw.GMSjASCQnpqw--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD00NTA7dz00MDA-/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCqJ4JpWgAAeo8G.jpg.cf.jpg

  

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11. "i was skeptical whether this story would resonate"
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with the general public or just be another fading storyline in an election where the sides are already baked in.

but it just dropped and i already see it everywhere. music message boards, ig stories, etc.

i checked my fake right wing social media accounts and there are some folks over there def calling his behavior shady/questionable (a lot of folks still defending him too obviously).

im not expecting it to be a game changer. but hopefully it can help squeeze out a few more votes against him in those battleground states like the rust belt.

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12. "If they manage to boil down the main narrative right"
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He’s a fraud and he’s scheming the US tax system

He’s president and still making money through shady foreign connections

The bullet points just have to be very alarming and in caps lock and so simple that a 5 year old gets that he’s a boogeyman and a clown

Then maybe, probably not, but maybe

I read the whole piece and I think they did a great job laying out a massive body of investigative work in a clear and level-headed fashion, there’s nothing hysteric about the way its written and that makes it even more venomous imo

  

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13. "'trump pays less in taxes than you do.'"
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seems simple enough.

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14. "Trump paid Stormy D 200 times more than he paid America"
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Trump pays taxes in Turkey and the Phillipines but not in the US

Trump hates America

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25. "that's pretty good"
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28. "i saw someone call trump a freeloader."
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it was so simple.

everyone should be calling him a freeloader.

every voter in america knows what the word entails.

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16. "$750 is such an unfathomably small number for taxes"
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Like that hits EVERYONE
Even those that are like “he’s a smart business man” types gotta be offended In their gut to see that number

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32. "especially when you consider the low amount of unemployment payments"
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that repubs have been fighting tooth and nail *not* to pay people affected by the pandemic.

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18. "Don’t know if this is related but still, lol"
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https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/09/28/former-trump-campaign-manager-brad-pascale-armed-barricades-self-in-fl-home-police-called/

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23. "As a person who has struggled with mental health I find it heartbreaking"
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that he was able to get help before he killed himself.

"Regardless if you listen to me, in the end we'll see."
-Cee-Lo

"You’ve had 4 years of Trump University and are still failing the final exam smh"
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26. "yeah I don’t mean to make fun of his mental health"
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It’s just, he’s a horrible person like everyone around Trump. I’m glad he didn’t harm himself, but these people have harmed so many.

PS I didn’t read your post carefully enough. These people caused so much suffering, and now their time is coming to an end.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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27. "I have zero sympathy or compassion for any of these people"
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I wish them fates worse than death and I hope to live long enough to see them all suffer and pay.

"Regardless if you listen to me, in the end we'll see."
-Cee-Lo

"You’ve had 4 years of Trump University and are still failing the final exam smh"
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53. "Preach preach preach."
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>RE: I have zero sympathy or compassion for any of these people
>I wish them fates worse than death and I hope to live long
>enough to see them all suffer and pay.

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60. "i stand in this line too"
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take a message

  

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62. "Apparently he beat up his wife as well"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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68. "Haha exactly. He doesn't deserve our sympathy. Fuck him."
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20. "Poor Ivanka"
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I feel so bad for this crime family.

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/09/27/ivanka-trump-tax-fraud.html

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21. "I'm roughly half way through (20% chapter) and my mind is numb"
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I've been a one W2, one tax filing guy my entire life. You always hear about how taxes can actually be a special kind of intense - my mom caught me off guard when she told me she was leaving the bookstore she'd been working at part-time on the side of her full-time teaching job for over two decades not because she didn't enjoy it anymore but because she was actually losing money keeping that job now that she was retired from teaching.


The idea that you could have more total income by working LESS is bonkers to me, but here I am reading this fucking thing like...


"Mr. Trump had paid no income taxes in 2008. But the change meant that when he filed his taxes for 2009, he could seek a refund of not just the $13.3 million he had paid in 2007, but also the combined $56.9 million paid in 2005 and 2006, when “The Apprentice” created what was likely the biggest income tax bite of his life.

The records reviewed by The Times indicate that Mr. Trump filed for the first of several tranches of his refund several weeks later, in January 2010. That set off what tax professionals refer to as a “quickie refund,” a check processed in 90 days on a tentative basis, pending an audit by the I.R.S.

His total federal income tax refund would eventually grow to $70.1 million, plus $2,733,184 in interest. He also received $21.2 million in state and local refunds, which often piggyback on federal filings.

Whether Mr. Trump gets to keep the cash, though, remains far from a sure thing."


Money is fucking pointless.


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24. "Shout out to the Times for, you know, protecting their source"
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Doesn't always happen.

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33. "thank God the source wasnt intercepted."
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46. "In reality,"
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that's why they're winners

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44. "Amazed they managed to keep this under wraps"
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Well done @ all the people involved, I can only imagine the day they received these files at the office.

There had to be a few people involved too, in addition to the editor and the 3 credited writers: Fact checkers, tax people for verification of the math and laws, etc

Ice cold

  

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38. "Won't matter"
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Turmp voters and potential voters want to be like him.

Pa no taxes is one of their goals.

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49. "It does matter"
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No one is trying to get his base to turn. That's a lost cause.

It also has a ceiling which he's hit.

The point is to get people who didn't vote or voted R in 2016 but are not his base.

The point is also to continue to unveil him and his family's laundry list of crimes so that they sooner or later something hits that they can't wriggle out of.

So yes, it does matter.

Fatalism and "Politics of Eternity" helplessness is not helpful

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51. "This here WON'T MATTER"
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>The point is also to continue to unveil him and his family's
>laundry list of crimes so that they sooner or later something
>hits that they can't wriggle out of.
>
>So yes, it does matter.
>
>Fatalism and "Politics of Eternity" helplessness is not
>helpful

No, he literally lied about a disease that has killed 200,000 people - if anything could possibly matter it was that.

Before this news who DIDN'T know he was a criminal? Every single person - supporter or not - knew he cheated on taxes. All of them. There's no new information here.

I think he's beat in any fair fight, the issue now is the levers of power that he can use to cheat.

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69. "You should just stop trying everything in life then right?"
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Sit still, lay in bed, be depressed and pessimistic and share that energy with everyone you can right?

  

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70. "No, hammer him on the DEATHS"
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His job performance and policies are the issue.

Literally anyone with ANY brain KNEW he was doing this. This is old old old news.

The news about him knowing people would die from a deadly virus and choosing to do less than nothing is the issue I'd expect people to care about. I was even a little shocked.

But maybe your right? Hammer him for doing something (not paying taxes) that 50% of the country would do if given the chance - sure, that's what's going to take him down.

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71. "Por que no los dos"
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While I agree that his utter failure as a president and his sadistic policies are crucial...

His job performance and policies and his body count are as much of an issue to the people you mentioned above as his taxes. In short, not at all.

You think these same people you're discussing wouldn't either tacitly/actively participate in the extermination of people they feel are undesirable?

Your argument is nothing matters except for stuff that actually matters. I agree with you that with portion of the population ~30-40% percent NOTHING matters. 30% of the population is predisposed to authoritarianism which is why his ceiling is what it is and his floor is what it is.

Of that 50% number (we're going ahead and using for east) there's a significant chunk of people who want to cheat on their taxes but don't wan't other people to. Those people matter.

The point isn't to get flip people we can't. It's to get people who didn't participate last time. And if they sat out last time they weren't really paying attention and were swayed by both-sides-ism etc.

Also, if you want to talk policies a tax cheat who's only achievement was signing his enabler's tax cuts for the rich isn't a good look. Neither is the fact that person is doing everything in his power to eliminate healthcare.

It's not old old news. The tax returns are new news. They provide confirmation and they provide a way to begin a reckoning. They didn't fight tooth-and-nail (in and out of court) to hide them because they don't matter. Also, in a week that saw their Trumped up Biden Republican-led investigations fall apart actual, digestible evidence of his own criminal behavior couldn't be better timed.

If we pre-emptively say "these things don't matter" then they won't. We must make them matter. If people can make people believe that Donald Trump was sent by Jesus to stop pedophiles despite being an actual pedophile sent straight from the pits of hell, then we can make sure people whose brains and hearts aren't rotten to the core understand who he is, what he has done and what he will do if he succeeds in stealing this election.

Also, we have someone in this post in the year of our Lord 2020 asking if he's not really a billionaire so it's not like everybody 1. Has been paying attention 2. Is media-literate enough to make sense of the information they might have been paying attention to.

"Regardless if you listen to me, in the end we'll see."
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73. "Okay, you changed my mind: This matters a tiny bit"
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And me trying to prioritize things out by severity and harm is not allowed.

So THIS MATTERS and unless you immediately hammer these RIGHT NOW then your doing nothing, and might as well be dead.

I guess when the next new thing drops we can forget this - forget even forgetting about the 200K dead, and jump on the new one - or you know - psychic death.

Meanwhile another 301 people died yesterday - did they die of his taxes??????.

FOH.

And Hammer away at this, and only this. Or your dead to me.

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74. "Wtf is this bullshit."
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>And me trying to prioritize things out by severity and harm
>is not allowed.
>
>So THIS MATTERS and unless you immediately hammer these RIGHT
>NOW then your doing nothing, and might as well be dead.
>
>I guess when the next new thing drops we can forget this -
>forget even forgetting about the 200K dead, and jump on the
>new one - or you know - psychic death.
>
>Meanwhile another 301 people died yesterday - did they die of
>his taxes??????.
>
>FOH.
>
>And Hammer away at this, and only this. Or your dead to me.

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75. "I'm not disagreeing with you "
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The fact that a quarter million of people died because of a deliberate, coordinated campaign on the part of the administration.

Also you're allowed to do whatever you want. I'm not the one telling you what you're arguing 'won't/doesn't matter' Nowhere did I argue that his financial crimes were as or more important.

Remember people could have cared when dozens of children were getting murdered in schools and the Republicans thwarted any and all efforts to stop it. Or post-9/11 when much of the foundation was raised for our current state. Or when it came out that there were concentration camps.

No, the people that died yesterday, the people that will die today and the people that will die tomorrow didn't die of his taxes they DID die because this country turned a blind eye to his criminality and were sold a bill of goods as to who and what he was. They died because he is a wanton criminal who likes to hurt people and hates consequences. That's born out in his tax records as much as it is in his willingness to let millions of Americans die.

They died because a criminal(he's a long history of both financial, political, and credibly alleged sexual crimes) was installed into the seat of highest power and given free reign. It could have been stopped. It should have been stopped long before this but now here we are.

"Regardless if you listen to me, in the end we'll see."
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39. "btw mueller could have investigated all of this."
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trump said his financial info was a red line.

and instead of a light bulb going off in muellers head like 'thats prolly where the crimes are' (like most seasoned investigators)...mueller went 'ok...lets stay away from there and see if theres any wrongdoing somewhere that trump isnt nearly as defensive about'.

even andrew weissman (mueller deputy) said they were too timid in a lot of areas.

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40. "to add insult to injury:"
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https://twitter.com/MariaBartiromo/status/1310221953110888449
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and the rock endorsed biden earlier too?

rough day in trump world.

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41. "Lmao yeah that one hurts lol"
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>
>and the rock endorsed biden earlier too?
>
>rough day in trump world.

  

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42. "His main defense «its illegal to show my taxes until after the audit» ..."
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A straight up LIE, false, bs

The article clearly states that, and its very very important cos that is basically the only thing he’s been peddling all along as well as now

  

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43. "Y’all these Biden / Harris official campaign stickers are priced at $7..."
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PETTY

https://store.joebiden.com/I-Paid-More-In-Taxes-Than-Donald-Trump-Vinyl-Stickers-2-Pack/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

  

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81. "that’s pretty good marketing "
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48. "That number is so fucking insulting"
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and of course all I’ve seen from supporters is “it’s illegal to expose someone’s tax info”

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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50. "RBTL, is Trump really a billionaire? "
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Seems like dude isn't, and really lives scam-to-scam while playing with the money that his dad left him.

Always doubted if he had the money that he claimed to have.

  

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57. "When he refused to show his taxes that should’ve told everyone"
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who was a lying POS.

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58. "He's a billion dollars in DEBT. "
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77. "He’s a pillionaire and that’s it. Transient have more money"
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87. "forbes and probably others say his businesses are worth 3 billion"
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and so his net worth is at 2 billion. he has 400 million in debt to unknown parties due in the next few years, which is being framed as a national security issue.

  

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54. "I hope alot of conservatives are re-evaluating their deal w the devil"
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Tax cuts? *check*

Reduced immigration? *check* (though due to nobody in their right mind wanting to come to the COVID capital of the world)

judges/supreme court? *check*


The ends-justifies-the-means supporters don't have much else to gain by supporting him. A vote for him this time means they love ALL of this mess that he brings with him.

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56. "The Southern District of NY"
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still has an open case into Trump, correct?

Have to wonder what their case will look like when everything is said and done for them.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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59. "Wesley Snipes, Ronald Isley, and Lauryn Hill had to do time"
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irs almost got MJB

take a message

  

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61. "I think he will get away with it legally and politically though..."
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Legally, because everything I've read or listened to from all sorts of "expert" talking heads seems to imply that he's not so much defrauding the IRS as he is using every loophole available to lessen his tax burden. Remains to be seen, but I think it'll be spun.

Politically, because his supporters are stupid enough to cheer him on for being a "smart businessman" (while reveling in the cognitive dissonance around the fact that these loopholes aren't equally available to them)

The debates will be lit.

  

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63. "agreed."
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Unfortunately, nothing less than picture proof of a misdeed will break his supporters, even then its questionable.

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64. "Yea we learned that his dad taught him this ..."
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... in that NYT expose from 2017 or 2018. So the fact that he's been doing this is obviously nothing new. Still pretty jarring to see just how bad it is, though.


>Legally, because everything I've read or listened to from all
>sorts of "expert" talking heads seems to imply that he's not
>so much defrauding the IRS as he is using every loophole
>available to lessen his tax burden. Remains to be seen, but I
>think it'll be spun.

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65. "This was all discussed basically in 2016. He said "that makes me"
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smart" in one of the debates

Kudos to Hillary for calling it word for word, too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKuFixvuVZg

  

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72. "His orbit has been filled with grifters and idiots, laywers included."
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Yet folks assume that he's hired the top tax lawyers?
Hard disagree.
Most likely he's hired people that are willing to put their license on the line for him and no reputable firm would ever work for him.

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76. "yeah, people are getting away"
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with a lot of illegal(like) things in this country. this is the
dilemma that was created in the beginning, it's become
a completely tangled spider web....worse than charlotte's.

  

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67. "Not filthy rich, but bitch, I'm barely broke (c) Tweeter Gunz"
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78. "Why did I not see this article blow up (re: Qatari corruption)"
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Maybe it's just bias from how the article is written. But damn...this seems like clear good evidence for corruption. At the very least, enough is there for credible innuendo.

Tldr: Early in Trump presidency (at the encouragement of Saudi Arabia) he said Qatar (our official ally in the middle east) is financing terror. And he kept doubling down on it. Qatar was like "what? not us?"

So Qatar started working to get back on Trump's good side. They spent money on lobbyists like usual to try to influence people. But they also made a direct investment in Trump. They rented office space in Trump's building in San Fran. Annual payment to Trump ~ $140k. And didn't use it.

Shortly after, Trump and the Qataris are best buds.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/09/how-everyone-is-quietly-lining-trumps-pockets

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79. "... I pay more in taxes than the President."
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This is a huge deal to independent voters. Yet he constantly champions tax cuts that primarily benefit the rich.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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80. "independents and normally apolitical people."
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i mentioned up top that i was kinda surprised at the amount of places...and type of people...discussing this story.

a day later...and im even more surprised than i was before. i see people who never really talk about politics bringing this up.

i have no idea which issues will or will not resonate with people anymore...but this one obviously has.

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82. "This right here. We’re completely numb to any “scandal”"
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>i have no idea which issues will or will not resonate with
>people anymore...but this one obviously has.

We’ve just seen so many examples of what should have been HUGE scandals just not resonate at all. To the point that by the end of the week I’ve forgotten about what he did back at the beginning of the week.

The other aspect of this is how long will an issue resonate with certain people though. I was shocked this summer when so many mainstream white people (and even some conservatives that I know) were saying they now understood BLM. But that stopped resonating pretty quickly for some of those people as soon as they saw football players kneeling again. So yeah, this tax story seems to be big now, but my guess is that depending on how tonight’s debate goes, and whatever the next scandal is or the next issue 45 manufacturers, the tax thing will be mostly forgotten about by the election.

  

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83. "I noticed this, too."
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Wasn't surprised, but noticed.


>The other aspect of this is how long will an issue resonate
>with certain people though. I was shocked this summer when so
>many mainstream white people (and even some conservatives that
>I know) were saying they now understood BLM. But that stopped
>resonating pretty quickly for some of those people as soon as
>they saw football players kneeling again.

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85. "Lmao.. as soon as Baseball got in on it people lost their empathy"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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84. "Social media stats agree with you."
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https://www.axios.com/new-york-times-trump-tax-returns-social-media-483f5894-0a27-430c-b645-b79607fe098f.html

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93. "damn thats massive."
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86. "i loved that they already got ads out showing all the "regular" job..."
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having people that pay THOUSANDS more than Trump paid in taxes.

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91. "He's of course spinning it by saying he's a brilliant businessman"
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and so of course he takes advantage of loopholes in our shitty tax system. This is nothing to say of the other bombshells in the report (Ivanka, his hundreds of millions in liability (Kompromat)) and the fact that he has chastised others in the past for the amount they've paid in taxes.

Expect this to come up tonight and expect his supporters not to care.

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92. "Yea I was just talking to someone about this."
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Kind of related to what Reeq mentioned above, that this seems to be a scandal that has resonated w/the general public more than the dozens of others that have come up the last 5 years.

And while that appears to be true, it doesn't mean that it will be lasting. They just haven't had enough time to develop their lies/excuses and talking points yet. But once they do, his followers and even people in the "middle" will move on, like they always do. IMO.


>RE: He's of course spinning it by saying he's a brilliant businessman
>and so of course he takes advantage of loopholes in our
>shitty tax system. This is nothing to say of the other
>bombshells in the report (Ivanka, his hundreds of millions in
>liability (Kompromat)) and the fact that he has chastised
>others in the past for the amount they've paid in taxes.
>
>Expect this to come up tonight and expect his supporters not
>to care.

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88. "Who does Trump owe hundreds of millions of dollars to? (swipe)"
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https://www.vox.com/21472063/trump-tax-returns-debts-owes-money

Trump has a tangled history with Deutsche Bank dating back to 1998. The New York Times’s David Enrich has chronicled how Trump would obtain a large loan from one arm of Deutsche, run into trouble paying back that loan, and then go to another arm of Deutsche to try and get more money. At one point he even sued the bank to try to avoid repayment; the parties ended up settling. Trump then paid his settlement obligation with a loan from yet another division of Deutsche.

There are questions about Trump properties for which he didn’t get loans

The more pertinent mystery about Trump’s money isn’t about these loans mentioned by the Times that are coming due. It’s about the properties he bought and developed without getting any financial assistance at all.

The Washington Post’s David Fahrenthold has reported that, between 2006 and 2014, Trump made a major change in the way he did business: He started dropping large amounts of cash to buy and develop certain properties, rather than relying on loans. Most notably, Trump bought and renovated a golf course in Turnberry, Scotland, for over $200 million — for which he paid entirely in cash.

The Trumps have claimed they simply had the cash on hand for this. But the New Yorker’s Adam Davidson doesn’t buy it.

“The portfolio of assets that Trump owns does not suggest that he would have so much money that he can casually spend a few hundred million on a whim,” Davidson wrote in 2018.

“There simply isn’t enough money coming into Trump’s known business to cover the massive outlay he spent on Turnberry.” Davidson has gone on to suggest that Trump’s expensive purchases like this may truly have been “on behalf of others” — that he was laundering money for some shady wealthy foreigners.

We don’t know where the hundreds of millions in cash Trump used for Turnberry and these other properties came from, and there’s no hard evidence that it was connected to money laundering. But Trump hasn’t given a convincing explanation for this, so it remains an unresolved mystery.

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89. "man, listen..."
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90. "Biden Releases Tax Returns Ahead of Debate With Trump"
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-releases-tax-returns-ahead-of-debate-with-trump-11601399789

Good, keep shitting on the orange ghoul.

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94. "What makes this hit different is it's presented in dollars, not tax rate..."
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Remember back when Romney was getting pressed for paying a low tax rate? He could wiggle out by saying something like "yeah I use all the deductions available to me. But at the end of the day, I still pay millions in taxes each year."

Ain't no weaseling out of $750.

  

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