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"U.S. COVID-19 (Novel Coronavirus) Update Post"
Sat Feb-29-20 08:15 PM by Damali

          

Can this be the catchall?

Can folks post local updates from where they live?

Here's the John's Hopkins tracking map:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

And here's a reddit post from a guy from Brooklyn who says he came back from Japan a week ago, got sick and an NYC hospital declined to test him for Coronavirus and sent him home...he decided to self-quarantined at home.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/fayko1/my_covid19_story_brooklyn/

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Washington state in a state of emergency
Feb 29th 2020
1
any idea of the testing plan for your state?
Feb 29th 2020
2
They're "hoping" to ramp up
Feb 29th 2020
3
then again i'm reading thing
Feb 29th 2020
4
      China welded and chained doors shut
Mar 01st 2020
6
South Korea tested 10,000 people today
Feb 29th 2020
5
looks like it’s been in Washington for a min now:
Mar 01st 2020
7
Yup just read that
Mar 01st 2020
8
100% anecdotal
Mar 01st 2020
9
It looks like Northshore School District is prepping to shutter.
Mar 02nd 2020
11
Man i was in lake Forest park today
Mar 02nd 2020
48
I'm in wa..Susan 'nem are going into full meltdown
Mar 03rd 2020
56
1st case confirmed in NY State:
Mar 01st 2020
10
In Manhattan.
Mar 02nd 2020
15
      yup a woman in her 30s
Mar 02nd 2020
17
why the FUCK are people buying all the the fckin toilet paper !!!??!!!?!
Mar 02nd 2020
12
in case we're all told to stay home for 2 weeks lol
Mar 02nd 2020
18
it was all gone in Aldis today - first time I have seen it since this po...
Mar 10th 2020
198
      it's nuts....annoying AND nuts...
Mar 12th 2020
283
just found out some folks in maryland are infected since January. so
Mar 02nd 2020
13
Since January?
Mar 02nd 2020
14
yep
Mar 02nd 2020
16
naw, China fucked everyone.
Mar 02nd 2020
19
actually 3 tested negative in MD
Mar 02nd 2020
30
I feel like the US media may be slightly over hyping this like they...
Mar 02nd 2020
20
definitely.
Mar 02nd 2020
21
TOILET PAPER gone.. fam...TOILET.PAPER.. WTF!?!
Mar 02nd 2020
22
Most people in the US don't own bidets, bruh.
Mar 02nd 2020
24
Japan probably has one of the best healthcare systems in the world
Mar 02nd 2020
23
Japan closed their schools for a month
Mar 02nd 2020
47
better than underhyping
Mar 03rd 2020
64
This aged poorly.
Mar 11th 2020
255
      a lot did, are you claiming a win?
Mar 12th 2020
272
           Just trying to get a laugh in a shitty situation bruh relax.
Mar 12th 2020
282
           if nothing else, its evidence of how often wrongheaded you are.
Mar 16th 2020
484
Costco was kinda nuts right now
Mar 02nd 2020
25
I dont get the water thing
Mar 02nd 2020
31
      i think it's more the possibility of being stuck indoors
Mar 02nd 2020
32
           Water will still run if one is stuck indoors.
Mar 02nd 2020
33
                sure but say you're confined to your house for 2 weeks
Mar 02nd 2020
34
                I have a Brita filter
Mar 02nd 2020
35
                     i don't have a filter, and tap water sucks in cali
Mar 02nd 2020
39
                In places like SoCal and the SW it makes sense
Mar 02nd 2020
36
5 confirmed deaths in Washington State
Mar 02nd 2020
26
make that 6...
Mar 02nd 2020
27
      LoL @ reply #20
Mar 02nd 2020
28
      Hold up. 4 of them in nursing homes?
Mar 02nd 2020
37
           4 from the SAME nursing home.
Mar 02nd 2020
40
           Definitely worries about my FIL who just had lung surgery
Mar 02nd 2020
49
                Bro, can you please grab some extra food for the house?
Mar 03rd 2020
54
                     man, real talk...
Mar 03rd 2020
57
           Yeah, that's another reason I'm not gonna panic
Mar 02nd 2020
41
                not that you should panic, but THEIR LIVES MATTER TOO
Mar 02nd 2020
42
                     right?
Mar 02nd 2020
43
                     You jumped way out to an incorrect conclusion...
Mar 02nd 2020
45
                          you right
Mar 02nd 2020
46
2 cases confirmed in the Tampa Bay area.
Mar 02nd 2020
29
Already spread around the country. I'd guess it's a 5-digit number...
Mar 02nd 2020
38
Yeah, I think the numbers are a lot more widespread than
Mar 02nd 2020
44
yo Philly.......
Mar 03rd 2020
51
we are treating this like china. there are more cases than they let on.
Mar 03rd 2020
52
2 folks confirmed in Atl have it.
Mar 03rd 2020
50
vp mike pence might have come into contact with the virus.
Mar 03rd 2020
53
*thoughts and prayers*
Mar 03rd 2020
55
damn
Mar 03rd 2020
60
stop making me laugh during the apolcalypse :\
Mar 03rd 2020
58
I will be praying for him....
Mar 03rd 2020
59
dont threaten me with a good time
Mar 03rd 2020
70
I don't get why sick mofos are still coming into work.
Mar 03rd 2020
61
This is infuriating
Mar 03rd 2020
62
      would help if carrot top stopped saying
Mar 03rd 2020
63
2 cases in New York State
Mar 03rd 2020
65
CLOSE THE FUCKING SCHOOLS YOU FUCKS!
Mar 03rd 2020
66
#DontTestDontTell
Mar 03rd 2020
67
First confirmed case in North Carolina (Wake County, link):
Mar 03rd 2020
68
patient in Wake came from the nursing home in Washington
Mar 04th 2020
75
      too close to home. person went to a restaurant, church, RDU, etc.
Mar 05th 2020
97
9 deaths
Mar 03rd 2020
69
I wonder if this is what the post would have looked like in the first da...
Mar 03rd 2020
71
Yup. Just like this.
Mar 04th 2020
80
Vietnam Coronavirus Pop Song
Mar 03rd 2020
72
Apple co-founder Woz thinks he is patient zero
Mar 03rd 2020
73
that host looks mad...porn actress-y. wtf.
Mar 03rd 2020
74
Woz ain't quite right anymore
Mar 04th 2020
81
don't watch youtube videos about stupid fucking tweets
Mar 05th 2020
84
Anyone having problems buying toilet paper and paper towels.
Mar 04th 2020
76
Nah. Grab what you need now man.
Mar 04th 2020
78
Patient under investigation for COVID-19 in Philadelphia
Mar 04th 2020
77
One confirmed case in Camden County
Mar 06th 2020
102
same across the board
Mar 06th 2020
104
Tampa coronavirus patient says CDC didn't take her seriously (swipe)
Mar 04th 2020
79
11 dead including first death in California
Mar 04th 2020
82
tonight they shut down my kid's school district for 2 weeks.
Mar 05th 2020
83
wow...so are you staying home too or you have help?
Mar 06th 2020
103
The coronavirus spread in NY in less than 48 hours from
Mar 05th 2020
85
im surprised there isnt more activity around atlanta.
Mar 05th 2020
86
"Novel" means "never seen before"
Mar 05th 2020
87
exactly. SARS & MURS are also corona...this strain is new.
Mar 05th 2020
88
      New Jersey has its first confirmed case today
Mar 05th 2020
89
Must be nice to be wealthy rich to avoid a virus outbreak
Mar 05th 2020
90
Don't forget the isolated land that many probably own
Mar 05th 2020
91
oh word, phuck being in solitary confinement while I sip this
Mar 05th 2020
93
i never get this take.
Mar 05th 2020
92
im not hating, i would do the exact samething if I was jeff bezos
Mar 05th 2020
94
      me too. if you have the means to protect yourself, why not?
Mar 05th 2020
95
There's a good chance there's no escaping this long term.
Mar 06th 2020
98
      right because people that have all that still have employees and staff.....
Mar 06th 2020
101
Coronavirus patient recovers treated with HIV drug
Mar 05th 2020
96
is this story real? is the MSM scamming us?
Mar 06th 2020
105
      I don't know
Mar 06th 2020
106
      they've definitely tried retrovirals in treatment in China
Mar 06th 2020
109
           word. that part did actually make sense...
Mar 06th 2020
112
                all the later updates I saw suggested it didn't really work
Mar 09th 2020
148
this virus hates men
Mar 06th 2020
99
Seems fair.
Mar 06th 2020
108
2020 would bring the cancel culture virus
Mar 06th 2020
110
      *snicker*
Mar 06th 2020
111
      times up (c)
Mar 06th 2020
114
this atlantic article is sobering
Mar 06th 2020
100
sxsw cancelled
Mar 06th 2020
107
This was an overreaction
Mar 07th 2020
116
not in a country that isn't adequately testing people
Mar 07th 2020
119
No, it’s not really like that
Mar 07th 2020
128
maybe you dont know that much about SXSW
Mar 08th 2020
130
*insert bugs bunny "no" meme*
Mar 09th 2020
134
Man. I don’t think you grasp what SXSW is like
Mar 09th 2020
147
I just found out that they're refusing refunds to the thousands who
Mar 11th 2020
226
government are some idiots. making a perfect storm for transmission.
Mar 06th 2020
113
right now *our* mortality rate is 2-3x the global avg.
Mar 06th 2020
115
      that mortality rate is driven by the denominator
Mar 07th 2020
118
           right, our mortality rate is way overstated...
Mar 07th 2020
122
           the issue is that not testing is hastening the spread. each infected
Mar 07th 2020
125
           ah good points.
Mar 07th 2020
126
                possible. but i don't think so. look at the curve we've been on since
Mar 09th 2020
152
wife's job handed out 1st aid kits yesterday
Mar 07th 2020
117
How Bad is the Corona Virus? Let's Run the Numbers (Swipe)
Mar 07th 2020
120
Stanford just cancelled in person classes for the rest of the quarter.
Mar 07th 2020
121
U of Washington already did.
Mar 08th 2020
129
it's going to be a problem when people get fed up with quarantines
Mar 07th 2020
123
Low key reminds me of that Chris Rock joke about being blind
Mar 07th 2020
124
      lol
Mar 07th 2020
127
They just closed my office (NYC).
Mar 09th 2020
131
i have an educated guess :) only cuz i know someone else
Mar 09th 2020
142
View from the other side of the world
Mar 09th 2020
132
My theory... it’s been here for a while we just didn’t test for it.
Mar 09th 2020
133
define a while...bc...the impact on nursing homes
Mar 09th 2020
135
3 to 6 months
Mar 09th 2020
136
i agree with this... it's been here for a minute..
Mar 09th 2020
137
they think it's been in Washington state
Mar 09th 2020
138
YUP.
Mar 09th 2020
141
It’s here in San Antonio too
Mar 09th 2020
145
i agree
Mar 09th 2020
149
yeah, seems like everyone in my circle
Mar 09th 2020
150
"We out-chea!" - Coronavirus
Mar 10th 2020
161
NY Port Authority Head Tests Positive For Coronavirus
Mar 09th 2020
139
Add Louisiana to the list (swipe). We just had Mardi Gras so it was...
Mar 09th 2020
140
fulton county schools closing for tomorow to clean the
Mar 09th 2020
143
The shitty Outbreak/Contagion parody continues (CPAC fall-out)
Mar 09th 2020
144
imagine these people if Obama was president
Mar 09th 2020
146
One of my neighbors works at Biogen
Mar 09th 2020
151
Oof
Mar 09th 2020
153
Thanks player
Mar 09th 2020
154
Please tell your mom I’m thinking of her.
Mar 09th 2020
155
I wish her and you the best.
Mar 10th 2020
160
so if I have theater tickets in NYC this weekend...
Mar 10th 2020
156
I went to the theatre a week ago
Mar 10th 2020
159
just go.
Mar 10th 2020
164
No way I'd go to the theater, or any other large gatherings right now
Mar 10th 2020
166
Everyone should be staying home. I hope you do too.
Mar 10th 2020
168
DON'T GO.
Mar 10th 2020
173
should we go to work or nah?
Mar 10th 2020
180
      you need to go to work to make money
Mar 10th 2020
189
           You realize that all the other stuff is work for someone
Mar 11th 2020
203
                This is my worry.
Mar 11th 2020
217
                     Yep...i hear you
Mar 11th 2020
231
Cuomo made your decision for you today, effective tomorrow
Mar 12th 2020
325
      Yeah, I saw. The theater is automatically refunding.
Mar 13th 2020
354
the US is short 300,000 ICU beds
Mar 10th 2020
157
I see a lot of people saying right now that it's all media hype
Mar 10th 2020
158
we need to skip media talking heads.
Mar 10th 2020
193
The American “experiment” has been a disaster
Mar 10th 2020
162
my coworker warned me this morning that my officemate is sick
Mar 10th 2020
163
Less worried now than 3/4 weeks ago.
Mar 10th 2020
165
Bruh, this ain't the flu. This is SARS Lite.
Mar 10th 2020
167
Entire country of Italy under quarantine / lockdown
Mar 10th 2020
169
CANCEL EVERYTHING! (the atlantic, swipe)
Mar 10th 2020
170
extreme and irrational response
Mar 10th 2020
171
      IT ISN'T. that dumb response is why Italy is in the shit its in
Mar 10th 2020
172
      but work is ok?
Mar 10th 2020
182
           If one can work from home. Otherwise, it's time for the .gov to bail us ...
Mar 10th 2020
184
                how does that work?
Mar 10th 2020
186
                     the same way it worked for the banks
Mar 10th 2020
187
                          THIS.
Mar 10th 2020
190
                          How does it work for banks? They shut down?
Mar 10th 2020
191
                               you forgot about 2008 stimulus packages?
Mar 10th 2020
192
                                    Huh? My question was how does it work if no one goes to work?
Mar 10th 2020
196
                                         You're being dense.
Mar 11th 2020
220
                                              yeah bruh i get all of that. If you get a check from the gov't, other th...
Mar 11th 2020
235
                                                   you can’t not buy food
Mar 16th 2020
487
      i don't get what the big deal is about staying in the house
Mar 10th 2020
177
      fam, now is not the time to troll.
Mar 10th 2020
188
SO, I got TWO 10mile races in April...should I pass or nah?
Mar 10th 2020
174
Bike races?
Mar 10th 2020
176
foot races
Mar 10th 2020
183
      I would skip those, honestly.
Mar 11th 2020
206
      Speaking of foot races and COVID-19
Mar 11th 2020
207
           Yeah, i'm quite surprised how little impact it's had on the local scene
Mar 11th 2020
216
           Best of luck.
Mar 12th 2020
275
           Oh dammit, I didn't even think about Penn
Mar 11th 2020
238
                Since I imagine it's a lot of moving parts
Mar 12th 2020
274
If they are held
Mar 10th 2020
181
1st one is in a few weeks, Cherry Blossom 10mile...it's 20K participants
Mar 10th 2020
185
Canceled
Mar 15th 2020
470
im worries this could influence voter turnout...
Mar 10th 2020
175
Right? As if this election season hasn't been crazy enough.
Mar 10th 2020
178
me too which is why i wish everything could be cancelled NOW
Mar 10th 2020
179
I got forwarded a doctor to doctor correspondence:
Mar 10th 2020
194
aren’t they proving everyone COULD get Medicare
Mar 10th 2020
195
yes they are. smart pol would justify some blanket level of care as part
Mar 10th 2020
197
      sorry, this made me LOL IRL
Mar 11th 2020
209
I think my classes are all gonna get moved online
Mar 10th 2020
199
Sorry to hear about the large amount of work/energy/time
Mar 10th 2020
200
      Thanks, boss
Mar 10th 2020
201
           I feel you homie, let that shit out
Mar 10th 2020
202
We need to have a plan for our kids...
Mar 11th 2020
204
Well it's in my immediate vicinity now (kinda)
Mar 11th 2020
205
WHO says its pandemic
Mar 11th 2020
208
SF bans large crowds incl. Warriors gms for 2 wks because of coronavirus
Mar 11th 2020
210
Washington banned these in King, Snohomish and Pierce counties.
Mar 11th 2020
211
      yeah that's the crazy part...
Mar 11th 2020
213
           my friend owns 3 bars, one of which is arguably the most active...
Mar 11th 2020
214
                wow that hurts, but on another level I think about the employees...
Mar 11th 2020
218
                     oh for sure. my other friend is his head of security.
Mar 11th 2020
221
                          not to mention hourly people and those who depend on tips...
Mar 11th 2020
222
                               ^^^^
Mar 11th 2020
223
The new spin on coronavirus is pretty disgusting
Mar 11th 2020
212
They canceled the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo
Mar 11th 2020
215
I was going tonight...
Mar 11th 2020
219
So my head of HR is a Fox News Loving Trump Supporter who thinks
Mar 11th 2020
224
Does he also think Italy's quarantine is part of the act?
Mar 11th 2020
225
other countries aren't real to people like that
Mar 11th 2020
227
unfortunately we'll have to wait until it gets much worse
Mar 11th 2020
228
Chairman of our board swooped in and shut the office down
Mar 12th 2020
278
trump orders govt to keep coronavirus meetings classified smh
Mar 11th 2020
229
all he cares about are the markets.
Mar 11th 2020
230
No fans for March madness
Mar 11th 2020
232
yall hear that tin foil malanin prone are immune theory? lol
Mar 11th 2020
233
that's a new one
Mar 11th 2020
234
seems fair
Mar 11th 2020
236
edit: melanin
Mar 11th 2020
237
tom hanks got it. theory over
Mar 11th 2020
257
lol
Mar 12th 2020
270
I had the same thought
Mar 13th 2020
356
Those are some pretty socialist ideas. Trump is a socialist it seems.
Mar 11th 2020
239
Did Trump say anything about increased testing?
Mar 11th 2020
240
He doesn't want to mess his numbers up
Mar 11th 2020
249
No travel from Europe to the US?!?!
Mar 11th 2020
241
apparently it's foreign nationals only, for certains countries
Mar 11th 2020
258
How is it possible that a prepared statement abt policy is so unclear? l...
Mar 11th 2020
261
Dude has one trick in his bag.
Mar 12th 2020
267
Well THAT was reassuring.
Mar 11th 2020
242
At the end his face looked like: "Oh god...please don't let me sneeze"
Mar 11th 2020
243
Yeah it did seem like something was going on
Mar 11th 2020
245
Hasn't he been like that forever though?
Mar 11th 2020
250
He has.
Mar 11th 2020
252
I'm pretty sure he didn't know what he was saying as he read it
Mar 12th 2020
266
he looked like a hostage
Mar 12th 2020
284
      I'm sure he did a looooooooot of coke in the 80's.
Mar 12th 2020
326
Trump gonna toss rolls of toilet paper to people or nah?
Mar 11th 2020
244
The NBA has shut down!!!
Mar 11th 2020
246
uh, they're not suspending because of Rudy lol
Mar 11th 2020
251
      *shrug* Just reporting what's in the news
Mar 11th 2020
253
           it's the impetus, for sure, but they were gonna do it soon anyway
Mar 11th 2020
254
Tom Hanks and Rita
Mar 11th 2020
247
every time i hear trump speak i hate white people.
Mar 11th 2020
248
All this over a liberal hoax ?! Hard to believe.
Mar 11th 2020
256
Dow futures down more than 1,000pts
Mar 11th 2020
259
BUT UNEMPLOYMENT IS AT AN ALL-TIME LOW!!!
Mar 11th 2020
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      SHIT, IT'S ABOUT TO BE AT AN ALL TIME HIGH...
Mar 12th 2020
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this mutherfucker
Mar 11th 2020
260
He's a despicable human being.
Mar 11th 2020
263
meanwhile, China is slowly coming out of their 2 month quarantine
Mar 11th 2020
264
I don't believe anything China is saying. Y'all shouldn't either....
Mar 12th 2020
269
this might be trumps 9/11.
Mar 12th 2020
265
when they write the story about how american civilization collapsed
Mar 12th 2020
268
we deserve whatever's coming
Mar 12th 2020
271
      what's this WE shit???!
Mar 12th 2020
279
           Right? I think T Reynolds is white.
Mar 12th 2020
280
           nah bro. But if that makes you feel better go ahead
Mar 12th 2020
285
           I'm just echoing the sentiment of this tweet. We are in a bad
Mar 12th 2020
287
           Never take ownership of something you had no hand in......
Mar 12th 2020
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                Our culture is pretty fucked up. That's all I'm saying
Mar 12th 2020
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                     The reality is that humankind in general is fcked up in many aspects...b...
Mar 12th 2020
294
                          True true. The tweet was about the decline of our civilization
Mar 12th 2020
295
                               I just want us all to go out with our heads held high!
Mar 12th 2020
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                                    *snaps off crisp salute*
Mar 12th 2020
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           when they write the book it's not gonna say "Americans, except FLUIDJ"
Mar 12th 2020
303
                lol...
Mar 12th 2020
305
Oh and they're still cutting SNAP benefits for 700,000 on April 1.
Mar 12th 2020
273
This is outside the scope of this thread of course
Mar 12th 2020
277
Judge Blocks Rule That Would Have Kicked 700,000 People Off SNAP
Mar 15th 2020
474
stay well Biden/Sanders
Mar 12th 2020
276
Digging mass graves in Iran
Mar 12th 2020
281
Tax breaks, bailouts? Socialism is bad tho, right?
Mar 12th 2020
286
you took my post.
Mar 12th 2020
290
smh base
Mar 12th 2020
291
they care more about the economic response than the medical/health one.
Mar 12th 2020
292
Republicans Want Medicare for All, but Just for This One Disease (swipe)...
Mar 12th 2020
293
great piece. a interdependent human needs-based worldview
Mar 12th 2020
300
We can’t let this turn into 2008-9
Mar 12th 2020
321
Thats what Im saying
Mar 12th 2020
296
My kissing Booth stock is way down
Mar 12th 2020
299
when I made this post on 2/29, there were 66 Covid-19 cases here
Mar 12th 2020
301
Yea the curve being so exponential is what's alarming.
Mar 12th 2020
304
Damn..Cancel Culture done got SOCIETY
Mar 12th 2020
306
my job wants us to alternate work from home every 3 days...
Mar 12th 2020
311
we just had a call to WFH the rest of March
Mar 12th 2020
319
S Korea is up to almost 20k tested per day
Mar 12th 2020
344
What even is the testing protocol?
Mar 12th 2020
307
Why? Most places don't even have the capabilities to test.
Mar 12th 2020
309
our health dept said MARCH 23
Mar 12th 2020
323
i think you call the CDC and they tell you where to go.
Mar 12th 2020
310
Seems like the Johns Hopkins site is down. WTH? n/m
Mar 12th 2020
308
yeah i thought it was just me...damn
Mar 12th 2020
312
UNC school system only doing remote classes...
Mar 12th 2020
313
Coronavirus will bankrupt more people than it kills(link):
Mar 12th 2020
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there definitely should be a hold on bills
Mar 12th 2020
315
yeah right lol...
Mar 12th 2020
317
they're starting to take measures like that in Europe
Mar 12th 2020
330
Omaha's power and water utilities won't cut power for late fees
Mar 13th 2020
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I'm officially concerned my place of business is going to close
Mar 13th 2020
372
Biben's response definitely sounds more presidential than all of Trumps ...
Mar 12th 2020
316
I appreciate Cuomo’s updates for NYS...
Mar 12th 2020
318
Trump's go to response of "It's possible" is the worst in these situatio...
Mar 12th 2020
320
hold on LOL you can actually catch this shit TWICE?
Mar 12th 2020
322
Call this shit Bébé's Virus.....
Mar 12th 2020
324
yes, just like you can get a cold, flu, or pneumonia multiple times.
Mar 12th 2020
328
it's unknown. they suspect a lot of people who were "cured"
Mar 12th 2020
339
mod note: avoid sensationalized news
Mar 12th 2020
327
damn that shit prolly look like resident evil over there.
Mar 12th 2020
331
Old images, but look at the pollution images pre vs post:
Mar 12th 2020
332
peep
Mar 12th 2020
336
should i still go to the strip club?
Mar 12th 2020
329
if you gotta catch it somehow
Mar 12th 2020
343
No March Madness
Mar 12th 2020
333
Dr Anthony Fauci...please pick up the white courtesy phone
Mar 12th 2020
334
...and just like that, he was gone... (c)
Mar 24th 2020
670
joe biden looked like a real president in his address.
Mar 12th 2020
335
sigh
Mar 12th 2020
337
King/Snohomish/Pierce counties in WA order to close all schools...
Mar 12th 2020
338
What’s the workload like/child’s age?
Mar 12th 2020
341
      she's 11...5th grade.
Mar 12th 2020
342
           Thanks
Mar 13th 2020
350
                UPDATE: well, your your point about King County...
Mar 13th 2020
375
                     I’d hope to see community groups work out options
Mar 13th 2020
382
Congresswoman Katie Porter just FLAMBE'd the CDC head.
Mar 12th 2020
340
San Diego stores are being mobbed
Mar 12th 2020
345
i went to the store after work for milk and a salad..
Mar 12th 2020
346
same shit in Houston
Mar 12th 2020
347
Yes they are, my wife went to Mission Valley Costco tonight
Mar 12th 2020
348
i put in a $100 order for walmart delivery.
Mar 13th 2020
351
I've had to go to Costco in La twice this week for the pharmacy
Mar 13th 2020
352
I saw photos on social media last night
Mar 13th 2020
362
this feels like the 9/11 post, in slow motion.
Mar 12th 2020
349
yup and every day the plane gets closer to hitting the building
Mar 16th 2020
483
Trudeau's wife
Mar 13th 2020
353
optics.. same reason we wont know if trump has it till he's gone..
Mar 13th 2020
360
Took a shared Lyft as my boss doesn't want us on the train
Mar 13th 2020
355
i would hate to be a doctor who has to play gawd at this time.
Mar 13th 2020
357
lmao. we putting up Biden to replace these bums
Mar 13th 2020
358
where did this money come from?
Mar 13th 2020
359
^^^^
Mar 13th 2020
361
LOL I literally sent this exact tweet last nite.
Mar 13th 2020
373
it's 1000% tax money
Mar 13th 2020
383
If I was Bern, I’d crunch the numbers on where
Mar 13th 2020
363
This post is stupid as FUCK
Mar 13th 2020
374
look, motherfucker. Did you see this dude's town hall
Mar 14th 2020
441
marginal improvement?
Mar 13th 2020
419
      You can read, right? It said MARGINAL.
Mar 14th 2020
442
Trump Admin Blocks States from Using Medicaid to Respond to Corona Virus
Mar 13th 2020
364
the republican party is a death cult.
Mar 13th 2020
367
how vile and low can you go
Mar 13th 2020
376
      Just remember, there is no bottom.
Mar 13th 2020
379
Brazil Pres. Bolsonaro tests positive
Mar 13th 2020
365
Sounds like he's smarter than Trump
Mar 13th 2020
366
He's def being tested, and he's def lying
Mar 13th 2020
370
the 2 brazilian folks around trump for the visit tested poz.
Mar 13th 2020
368
miami mayor tests poz after event with brazil prez bolsonaro.
Mar 13th 2020
380
australias home affairs minister (who met with ivanka) tested poz.
Mar 13th 2020
369
Well if Ivanka has it then Trump definitely does
Mar 13th 2020
377
Trump's budget director stands by plan to cut CDC budget by 15 percent
Mar 13th 2020
371
Sorry i LOL'd at this
Mar 13th 2020
378
You should be sorry because it's mindless and misleading.
Mar 13th 2020
387
      i agree with you 100% but i still let out a Ha (c)Matthews
Mar 13th 2020
388
      I'm sorry bro. Shit's funny though.
Mar 13th 2020
389
      I don't get it?
Mar 13th 2020
390
      hold on so you agreed with the guy on bottom then
Mar 13th 2020
391
           No
Mar 13th 2020
396
      You know what. You're right. Because then you see something like
Mar 13th 2020
393
louisiana postpones next months primary due to coronavirus concerns.
Mar 13th 2020
381
is it unreasonable to worry about november?
Mar 13th 2020
384
LOL I had the *exact* same thought.
Mar 13th 2020
385
The smart thing would be to allow mail-in for everybody
Mar 13th 2020
386
you already know theyre looking for ways to cancel the election.
Mar 13th 2020
394
RE: is it unreasonable to worry about november?
Mar 13th 2020
395
      LOL yep. That map was jarring as fuck.
Mar 13th 2020
397
      yall remember that russian virus lab that blew up?
Mar 13th 2020
405
      0 cases in greenland
Mar 13th 2020
415
uk is delaying local & mayoral elections for a year.
Mar 13th 2020
392
      Yep. This is his chance. And you know he will seize it.
Mar 13th 2020
398
      free tacos?
Mar 13th 2020
399
           lolz
Mar 13th 2020
400
           or at least chalupas.
Mar 13th 2020
402
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xSV-BO4ILY
Mar 13th 2020
404
K-12 Schools are being closed indefinitely.
Mar 13th 2020
403
schools are extending spring break here until the end of the month
Mar 13th 2020
407
i feel sorry for yall parents who gotta spend time with your kids now.
Mar 13th 2020
411
      im worried for folks with young kids who cant get time off from work
Mar 13th 2020
416
this motherfucker
Mar 13th 2020
406
what happened? i had the news on but
Mar 13th 2020
408
i dont see how anybody could listen to this dude talk
Mar 13th 2020
409
every time he speaks Costco gets more crowded
Mar 13th 2020
414
low priority this week but I'm curious
Mar 13th 2020
417
he wishes so bad he was home tweeting how hillary is fucking this up
Mar 13th 2020
410
Yeah that press conference was REALLY Bad.
Mar 13th 2020
412
I hate it...
Mar 13th 2020
413
lol @ I think it’s a nasty question...
Mar 13th 2020
418
      anytime a black woman confronts him
Mar 13th 2020
421
watching world leaders, politicians & corporate leaders.
Mar 13th 2020
420
bruh this is the ONLY thing fun about it!
Mar 13th 2020
428
Tacoma, Wa WinCo was like everyone was playing Supermarket Sweep
Mar 13th 2020
422
we almost went to a Winco near us (Lynnwood)...
Mar 13th 2020
430
      Wassup fellow Washingtonian
Mar 14th 2020
451
make your final amazon pantry orders tonight folks...
Mar 13th 2020
423
omG, damn near every NPR story, all my personal emails,
Mar 13th 2020
424
you have no idea what's coming and its sad.
Mar 15th 2020
463
ur Condescension aside. U were right. This really has changed
Mar 18th 2020
553
One person, who refused to be tested and instead went to church and a bu...
Mar 15th 2020
475
There were 254 deaths in the Italy within 24 fucking hours.
Mar 13th 2020
425
see this is the shit i hate. these numbers need CONTEXT.
Mar 13th 2020
432
      why is Italy being hit so hard (link)
Mar 13th 2020
435
      RE: see this is the shit i hate. these numbers need CONTEXT.
Mar 13th 2020
438
prediction: Trump resigns behind this, citing undisclosed health reasons...
Mar 13th 2020
426
i love this prediction. I think its valid. *fingers crossed*
Mar 13th 2020
429
RE: prediction: Trump resigns behind this, citing undisclosed health rea...
Mar 13th 2020
431
he should be removed
Mar 14th 2020
443
Trump will NEVER give up power
Mar 14th 2020
444
Oh pray to whoever the fuck you pray to.
Mar 13th 2020
436
nightmare scenario indeed lol
Mar 14th 2020
450
      Damn that's fucked up. They should be ex friends, lol.
Mar 14th 2020
454
           lol yeah
Mar 14th 2020
455
                Yea I hear you for sure.
Mar 14th 2020
456
I'd be happy if that were the case
Mar 15th 2020
469
Social Isolation - for the first time I am proud of my weekend plans
Mar 13th 2020
427
GOOD NEWS
Mar 13th 2020
433
Did you guys watch Counterpart on Starz? ... this got me think about it
Mar 13th 2020
434
shutdowns could last '8 weeks or more' - top health official
Mar 13th 2020
437
lots of people are gonna die from this. fuck.
Mar 14th 2020
439
...and here come my allergies...
Mar 14th 2020
440
rnc chairwoman tested after feeling sick
Mar 14th 2020
445
Is RBG in her bunker yet?
Mar 14th 2020
446
THIS.
Mar 14th 2020
447
He tested negative, sorry y'all
Mar 14th 2020
448
I don't trust him and his doctors
Mar 14th 2020
449
me either!
Mar 14th 2020
452
This.
Mar 14th 2020
453
them niggas lying.
Mar 15th 2020
458
and you're gullible AF if you believe that.
Mar 15th 2020
473
interesting post circulating on FB, breaking down the math
Mar 15th 2020
457
excellent article. problem is we're only as good as what everyone else
Mar 15th 2020
465
elon musk gotta answer for this:
Mar 15th 2020
459
Why Outbreaks Like Corona Spread Exponentially and How to Flatten the Cu...
Mar 15th 2020
460
the 'unintended' consequence of hyper-partisanship
Mar 15th 2020
461
China is not fucking around.
Mar 15th 2020
462
Yep all that plus Nunes is being Nunes
Mar 15th 2020
472
in the middle of a pandemic...trump is focused on...a flynn pardon.
Mar 15th 2020
464
Just about every tribally owned casino in SoCal
Mar 15th 2020
466
oh shit my man's family is part of Pala
Mar 16th 2020
490
No testing kits at any Indian Health Clinics (IHC) in San Diego
Mar 15th 2020
467
So will they transport to San Diego?
Mar 16th 2020
512
Ohio's GOP governor > 45*
Mar 15th 2020
468
this is the way
Mar 15th 2020
471
RE: Ohio's GOP governor > 45*
Mar 15th 2020
476
those ft lauderdale spring break videos are fuckin infuriating
Mar 15th 2020
477
walmart in my area completely shut down pickup/delivery.
Mar 16th 2020
478
keri hilson has weighed in:
Mar 16th 2020
479
no Keri no.
Mar 16th 2020
480
welp, 2 cases showed up in my city over the weekend
Mar 16th 2020
481
they've been there for weeks. the data says there are likely many more
Mar 16th 2020
482
      for sure
Mar 16th 2020
485
           that's excellent...most cities waited till after there were cases
Mar 16th 2020
486
           San Antonio Mayor has not at all been leading.
Mar 16th 2020
491
           NC gov stepped in to save us from the Charlotte school district.
Mar 16th 2020
488
WA State closes all bars and restaurants.
Mar 16th 2020
489
texas being texas
Mar 16th 2020
492
All but WV as of yesterday
Mar 16th 2020
494
      No one goes to WV.. and no one leaves WV
Mar 16th 2020
496
Stringer Bell tested positive
Mar 16th 2020
493
Bay Area - "Shelter in Place" til 4/7 SWIPE
Mar 16th 2020
495
this will be nation wide very soon.. What a time to be alive :(
Mar 16th 2020
497
So every state is on its own regarding respirators?
Mar 16th 2020
498
we are in the worst twilight zone episode
Mar 16th 2020
500
Everything is terrible
Mar 16th 2020
499
seems Trump may have finally grasped the urgency of the situation
Mar 16th 2020
501
optic wise he looks better today
Mar 16th 2020
502
it's a low bar, but yeah
Mar 16th 2020
503
      yuup that's the one part i saw where i wish Fauci batman slapped him
Mar 16th 2020
504
For sure. He had a totally different tone. Still passing blame around...
Mar 16th 2020
507
What did Trump do that was different ?
Mar 16th 2020
508
lmao I highly doubt it was one of his dumb, obsequious kids that did it
Mar 16th 2020
510
being able to read the room is one of his few actual abilities
Mar 16th 2020
511
apparently clinical trials just started
Mar 16th 2020
505
SWIZZY (not beats):
Mar 16th 2020
506
RE: apparently clinical trials just started
Mar 16th 2020
509
Amazon hiring 100k workers & raising pay +$2/hr through end of April
Mar 16th 2020
513
media really tryna sell us on the trump presidential pivot again.
Mar 17th 2020
514
It's fucking disgusting.
Mar 17th 2020
516
fam look at this goofy ass shit:
Mar 17th 2020
519
      jesus.. they're so pathetic
Mar 17th 2020
521
      My new reply to his base: “uh huh. And how does his dick taste?”
Mar 17th 2020
526
now you see how they do.
Mar 17th 2020
536
there needs to be criminal charges against this administration
Mar 17th 2020
515
Good luck with all that.
Mar 17th 2020
517
where are all the "exaggerating!" accusers now?
Mar 17th 2020
518
If these extreme measures are effective, they'll be gloating
Mar 17th 2020
527
this is too eerie
Mar 17th 2020
520
damn thats one hell of a coincidence
Mar 17th 2020
522
wtf
Mar 17th 2020
523
Dean Koontz is the infinite number of monkeys
Mar 17th 2020
524
wut
Mar 17th 2020
532
Im at work :-/ they don't value the IT department as human beings here
Mar 17th 2020
525
I’m in the same boat, I making sure everyone else can work from home
Mar 17th 2020
531
Yep! The laptop tree is in bloom. People saying things like ...
Mar 17th 2020
538
      Why can't they just take the mini desktops home?
Mar 18th 2020
560
           Network Administrator says it’s going to be a disaster getting
Mar 18th 2020
568
same. fortune 500 company. titan in the banking industry
Mar 17th 2020
534
      We have been discussing telling people to take their little Dell mini's ...
Mar 17th 2020
539
To all the "only 1% death rate, the flu kills more people" morons....
Mar 17th 2020
528
we need to nationalize manufacturing to produce PPE, ventilators and
Mar 17th 2020
529
yep, pretty much
Mar 17th 2020
530
And we'll never do it. We'd be proving Bernie right.
Mar 17th 2020
545
Flight Controllers at Midway Airport test positive.
Mar 17th 2020
533
my dad flew last Friday and flew back yesterday, smh
Mar 17th 2020
535
      One of my best friends is this guy.
Mar 17th 2020
541
           smh. And now he’s inviting a bunch of family over for pizza today
Mar 22nd 2020
646
the world is upside down.
Mar 17th 2020
537
I agree but at the same time am fearful as fuck that ...
Mar 17th 2020
542
      in all reality.. if we get an ONLINE election going by november...
Mar 18th 2020
546
      So risky. Guess in person elections are too but still.
Mar 18th 2020
550
      if there's no election, Trump's term expires. Period.
Mar 20th 2020
616
           Ha um you may have a wee bit too much faith in our institutions.
Mar 20th 2020
619
How would the proposed government “cash stimulus” actually work?
Mar 17th 2020
540
Who knows but it sounds like it’s going to on some Oprah you get a car
Mar 17th 2020
544
      which is why means testing the stimulus is a losing proposition
Mar 18th 2020
547
This has been a long month!
Mar 17th 2020
543
there's no way this country can control over 300 million americans
Mar 18th 2020
548
These people will unwittingly be the guinea pigs for the virus
Mar 18th 2020
551
martial law comin
Mar 18th 2020
570
Edit: Daycare down the street from ours had a possible exposure.
Mar 18th 2020
549
my city is stepping up
Mar 18th 2020
552
We’re not going back to normal - MIT Technology Review
Mar 18th 2020
554
we won't get back to "normal" until there's a vaccine for all [LINK]
Mar 18th 2020
555
good read
Mar 18th 2020
556
      i mean, there will always be another virus
Mar 18th 2020
557
           My friend, a science professor, had an interesting take on this.
Mar 18th 2020
558
                which is exactly why i refuse to live the rest of my life in the US.
Mar 18th 2020
559
                Felt.
Mar 18th 2020
561
                not even mad at you.
Mar 21st 2020
635
                Thats an interesting take
Mar 18th 2020
562
                my question though (and i'm no scientist, obviously)...
Mar 18th 2020
563
                     Haha yea I'm not sure either.
Mar 18th 2020
565
                     That immunity fades.
Mar 18th 2020
566
                          that sounds correct to my dumb ass. lol.
Mar 18th 2020
567
                they found the age old chlymydia in the arctic recently
Mar 18th 2020
571
Hint: same goes for the election.
Mar 18th 2020
564
this is like a science fiction novel. that imperial college study from t...
Mar 18th 2020
569
Yeah. NBC interviewed an expert italian doctor, who was
Mar 18th 2020
572
      Man
Mar 19th 2020
574
How does this sending checks to everyone work?
Mar 18th 2020
573
Conspiracy theory: The US Census
Mar 19th 2020
584
It's where I live!
Mar 19th 2020
575
apparently young people are more susceptible than we thought.
Mar 19th 2020
576
personally....I think this is more propaganda than anything...but i'm do...
Mar 19th 2020
577
agreed
Mar 19th 2020
579
I've heard conflicting reports on this.
Mar 19th 2020
578
Dutch papers were reporting many IC patients under 50
Mar 19th 2020
582
      Yeah, anyone who says "I can go on as usual because it doesn't effect me...
Mar 19th 2020
585
The binning on that is bizarre.
Mar 19th 2020
583
Testing in the US is so bad
Mar 19th 2020
588
I don't know about anybody else, but...
Mar 19th 2020
580
So apparently Ammunation is doing well.
Mar 19th 2020
581
a food shortage and medication is being rationed for the elites
Mar 19th 2020
589
Senator Burr Recorded Telling Group Of Donors COVID19 More Serious Than ...
Mar 19th 2020
586
Everyone following this from early knows that it's more serious...
Mar 19th 2020
587
Not everyone but I get your point.
Mar 19th 2020
591
      I get your point. Clearly not "everyone" even with CLEAR info...
Mar 19th 2020
595
           Yep.
Mar 19th 2020
606
He unloaded stocks in mid-February before coronavirus rocked markets
Mar 19th 2020
602
      Damn putting people in danger is not enough
Mar 19th 2020
605
           #republicansaretrash, always.
Mar 19th 2020
607
Younger Adults Make Up Big Portion of Coronavirus Hospitalization
Mar 19th 2020
590
So...my wife and I may have it.
Mar 19th 2020
592
I'm not trying to make light of your situation at all
Mar 19th 2020
594
Yeah it seems pretty random. I think the reason though is she
Mar 19th 2020
597
how uncomfortable is the test?
Mar 19th 2020
599
Very uncomfortable for me, I’m a wimp though.
Mar 19th 2020
603
      i had seen a picture showing that
Mar 19th 2020
604
      yeah they take swabs for flu sometimes too
Mar 19th 2020
609
      ahh thanks. get well, fam
Mar 20th 2020
613
I hope you got the mildest case of it possible
Mar 20th 2020
610
We *added* Iran sanctions
Mar 19th 2020
593
Gross.
Mar 19th 2020
608
US jails begin releasing prisoners to stem Covid-19 infections
Mar 19th 2020
596
Some interesting vids about coronavirus origins/zoonotic jumps:
Mar 19th 2020
598
Bruh, this came out of a lab. Occam's Razor to a tee.
Mar 19th 2020
600
      Lol, I'm not a bruh I'm a sis. Anyway, your lab theory is compelling...
Mar 19th 2020
601
Hawaii hit 26 cases today
Mar 20th 2020
611
without accurate testing numbers, the reported case numbers are inaccura...
Mar 20th 2020
618
I guess this motherfucker's just gonna call it 'the Chinese virus' now.
Mar 20th 2020
612
it's his move. he wants the media to focus on it so he can play victim
Mar 20th 2020
614
How on earth do you figure that ?!
Mar 20th 2020
620
      this is the first thing that affects everyone
Mar 20th 2020
624
           I don't share in your optimism but I hope you're right.
Mar 20th 2020
625
           I hope he doesn't come back from this.
Mar 22nd 2020
652
this + the lip service given to UBI = backdoor to national socialism
Mar 21st 2020
637
jobless claims forecast: 3x the weekly record of last 50 years.
Mar 20th 2020
615
I'm considering taking home my laptop and some supplies
Mar 20th 2020
617
Vacation? That dude is in quarantine
Mar 20th 2020
622
      i legit thought he was on quarantine
Mar 20th 2020
623
republicans taking this war on the coronavirus literally.
Mar 20th 2020
621
They just canceled the school food assistance program here
Mar 20th 2020
626
RE: They just canceled the school food assistance program here
Mar 20th 2020
627
the Food Bank is handling it now
Mar 23rd 2020
658
Goddamn.
Mar 20th 2020
629
Passengers on the Grand Princess cruise ship refuse to take
Mar 20th 2020
628
What could their reasoning possibly be
Mar 20th 2020
630
Coronavirus Florida: Lake Worth Beach city commission meeting turns ugly
Mar 21st 2020
631
it's about to be a lot of dumb leaders getting mad at being called out
Mar 21st 2020
632
lol that dude who keeps calmly asking what a recess means
Mar 21st 2020
633
wow, those people aside from the Commissioner
Mar 21st 2020
640
Since Dolt45 cant do rallies hes just gonna be a baby at daily pressers?
Mar 21st 2020
634
this whole thing is an indictment on the USA
Mar 21st 2020
636
Yep China has pretty much recovered already
Mar 21st 2020
638
RE: Yep China has pretty much recovered already
Mar 21st 2020
639
Yup
Mar 22nd 2020
651
Why is Shout in short supply? Are people hoarding everything they
Mar 21st 2020
641
So this woman not only buys out a local Dollar Tree of every single box ...
Mar 21st 2020
642
There's a story in the Times about the huge spike in bean sales.
Mar 22nd 2020
645
This is how a stimulus is properly done
Mar 21st 2020
643
Cuban doctors' "revolutionary duty" in mission to Italy
Mar 22nd 2020
644
that's dope. nm
Mar 22nd 2020
647
Rand Paul has it
Mar 22nd 2020
648
has this made anyone else take doomsday/survivalist planning
Mar 22nd 2020
649
Bruh.. I shrugged at flipnile’s warning
Mar 23rd 2020
656
Harvey Weinstein has it
Mar 22nd 2020
650
they wasted a test on Harvey Weinstein?
Mar 22nd 2020
654
we could be looking at 30% unemployment and 50% drop in gdp.
Mar 22nd 2020
653
This is how we should be responding -from the Army Corp of Engineers
Mar 22nd 2020
655
this is good an make sense.
Mar 23rd 2020
657
      Here's my take from a Building Sciences & Construction Forensics perspec...
Mar 24th 2020
671
           Wow. Good post. Question: in your work, did you notice a correlation
Mar 24th 2020
673
                Moreso with brands...but yes, in general the higher value that a chain
Mar 24th 2020
676
Good read here on Fauci and how he's TRYING to deal with, ya know.
Mar 23rd 2020
659
My man, Fauci, ain’t in this daily briefing going right now...
Mar 23rd 2020
667
      scary, and you're probably right.
Mar 23rd 2020
668
lookin at all y'all like this:
Mar 23rd 2020
660
here is something you can’t understaaaaand
Mar 23rd 2020
661
Predictable outcome
Mar 23rd 2020
662
Damn when I read the title for the article I thought this was about the ...
Mar 23rd 2020
663
fox news pushing it heavy too.
Mar 23rd 2020
665
      They're literally all snake-oil salesmen now.
Mar 23rd 2020
666
looks like Washington State will be entering 14 day lockdown.
Mar 23rd 2020
664
It's crazy how different eve rything was 2 weeks ago. Hell...a week ago
Mar 23rd 2020
669
two days i have not seen Dr. Fauci
Mar 24th 2020
672
Trump Is Growing Tired Of Dr. Fauci Contradicting Him (link)
Mar 24th 2020
674
RE: two days i have not seen Dr. Fauci
Mar 24th 2020
677
I'm having a really hard time understanding Schumer's blocking of this b...
Mar 24th 2020
675
im a bit conflicted
Mar 24th 2020
678
Are you KIDDING me?
Mar 24th 2020
679
100. Like k5 said dems are always losing the coverage war.
Mar 24th 2020
683
THANK YOU!!!^^^^^^^^^^^
Mar 24th 2020
685
the money should be directed to unemployment and giving people
Mar 24th 2020
680
RE: the money should be directed to unemployment and giving people
Mar 24th 2020
681
Spoiler: it will *never* be the time for that
Mar 24th 2020
684
Eat shit, then after eating shit read the proposals
Mar 24th 2020
686
Looks like my city just issued a shelter in place order
Mar 24th 2020
682
Manu Dibango dead from COVID-19
Mar 24th 2020
687

fif
Member since Feb 23rd 2004
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1. "Washington state in a state of emergency"
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First US death here. 52 year old man with underlying health problems.

6 cases now. They cant trace the origin of most of those. Cat sure seems outta the bag. The grocery store was packed (Seattle). Definitely seems like it's about to be everywhere.

  

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2. "any idea of the testing plan for your state?"
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I haven't yet heard that all U.S. states have a viable test

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Sat Feb-29-20 09:53 PM

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3. "They're "hoping" to ramp up"
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To 200 tests/day capacity. Which, to my ears, means we're woefully underprepared for this. That isn't nearly enough. I've heard the UK is starting to test randomly to determine the spread. I think it's gonna be out there. Dealing with the sick people and trying not to get sick seems more important than mass testing now that it does seem uncontainable

  

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fif
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4. "then again i'm reading thing"
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that China did seem to turn the tide on things with mass quarantines. i'm not sure if something like that is even close to feasible in a city like seattle. i know my rent isnt gonna pay itself. china had drones chastising people on sidewalks if they were caught outside and shit

  

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6. "China welded and chained doors shut"
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To keep people from leaving their homes...

--
Sometimes you have to look reality in the face and say 'No!'
-Ben (Reaper)

  

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fif
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5. "South Korea tested 10,000 people today"
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meanwhile:

"Washington state public health lab is ramping up to test 200 samples/day for possible#coronavius, including 50 from a Kirkland nursing home.@WADeptHealthsays risk to public is increasing but not ready to cancel public events yet.https://t.co/t7oHxFoyoi "

  

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7. "looks like it’s been in Washington for a min now:"
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1233970271318503426.html

  

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8. "Yup just read that"
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That guy is doing amazing work. He was already studying viral infection spread in the Seattle area using genetic analysis. Basically the perfect forensic researcher to have on hand. Amazing how they can trace the genetics from case to case like that.

But yea, 6 weeks of time to spread. The man mentioned Travis Bedford estimates a few hundred infected already. Remember people can be asymptomatic and still spreading

  

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9. "100% anecdotal"
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But man people have been sick here. A few different settings, flu like symptoms just ripping through offices, families. Now that we know 6 weeks of a spread to in all likelihood a "few hundred" if not more, makes you wonder. My boss's family and my coworker were all down for the count recently. Who knows. If this was S Korea I'd definitely roll in for a test right about now

  

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11. "It looks like Northshore School District is prepping to shutter."
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Northshore SD is a group of schools in the suburbs JUST north of Seattle.

my kid goes to a school in the district and we just got an email from the district superintendent that kids can go to school on Monday but if you hold them out it will be an excused absence, and that Tuesday schools will be closed to prep staff on how to provide instruction to students if the schools have to be closed long-term.

this comes after a staff member at a school in the district (not my kid's school) has flu-like symptoms and is expected to test positive. on top of that there's a nursing/retirement center type place in Kirkland (yes, where the Costco brand's name comes from) where the the coronavirus seems to have spread that families have been visiting, including kids and you expect some of those families to have children in the district or for kids in the district to have visited that location.

it seems like this situation is going to get worse, so i don't see why the schools won't close when they are doing this already.

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48. "Man i was in lake Forest park today"
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Working in a house with a kid home sick from school. Can't live paranoid but I was definitely trying to avoid being breathed on by the little guy haha

  

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56. "I'm in wa..Susan 'nem are going into full meltdown"
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10. "1st case confirmed in NY State:"
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-usa-new-york/new-york-state-confirms-first-coronavirus-case-governor-cuomo-idUSKBN20P037

  

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15. "In Manhattan. "
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We're getting confirmations now that they are actually testing.

Almost the entire west and east coasts probably have this already circulating, and for at least a few weeks or even longer.

  

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17. "yup a woman in her 30s"
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and a local paper ran a photo with the article that showed a Chinese guy in Queens

  

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12. "why the FUCK are people buying all the the fckin toilet paper !!!??!!!?!"
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The FCK man...
Can't even get my routine Target run finished...
sheesh...

  

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18. "in case we're all told to stay home for 2 weeks lol"
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tp is more important than hand sanitizer these days lol

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198. "it was all gone in Aldis today - first time I have seen it since this po..."
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283. "it's nuts....annoying AND nuts..."
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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13. "just found out some folks in maryland are infected since January. so"
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guess DC, northern Virginia, and Delaware probably have it too.


the CDC drop the ball on this, or maybe the govt gave them a script to read.

take a message

  

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14. "Since January? "
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16. "yep"
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take a message

  

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19. "naw, China fucked everyone."
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they (Chinese government) basically hid this shit for the first month it was known of. that gave people enough time to travel about asymptomatic spreading it all willy nilly and getting mis-diagnosed and shit.

i mean, they are saying it has been in washington state for well over a month now.

the bad thing as far as spreading globally is this shit popped up on the cusp of chinese new year when millions of chinese travel to and from china.

i hope this gets reel'd in asap, and i'm very curious to see how this affects China politically in the aftermath. there are 10s of millions of Chinese people who are super pissed off for being lied to about this and then the subsequent quarantine and how citizens are being treated.

i'm sure this is wishful thinking on my part, but it would be wild if it was THIS that led to a democratic (or more democratic) China.

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30. "actually 3 tested negative in MD"
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No active cases in the states as of today. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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but.....

Fuck aliens.

  

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20. "I feel like the US media may be slightly over hyping this like they..."
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did with past "pandemics" like ebola, SARS, swine flu etc...

I recently reached out to friends living in Japan and Taiwan and while they have taken precautions its been pretty much life as normal in those places and they are right next door to China.

  

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21. "definitely."
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i've been closely following who has gotten this and how they've fared.

basically everyone who has died is old or compromised in some other way.

some confirmed cases show no symptoms (which is a bit scary on another level since you're probably spreading it and neither you nor anyone else knows) and most others had a mild flu like stage that passed without being noteworthy.

and you're starting to see a push back against the news outlets telling them to chill the fuck out.

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22. "TOILET PAPER gone.. fam...TOILET.PAPER.. WTF!?!"
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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24. "Most people in the US don't own bidets, bruh."
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*edited to single out the US

  

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23. "Japan probably has one of the best healthcare systems in the world"
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Look at the number of hospital beds per person in Japan, vs. what we have in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OECD_countries_by_hospital_beds

And the country is actually doing something. The US .gov has basically set us up for a big surprise (for many people) by saying little and doing nothing. The .gov chose the economy & keeping panic low as the better option a long time ago.

I don't think things will go as smoothly here in the US.

>I recently reached out to friends living in Japan and Taiwan
>and while they have taken precautions its been pretty much
>life as normal in those places and they are right next door to
>China.

  

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47. "Japan closed their schools for a month"
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64. "better than underhyping"
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255. "This aged poorly."
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272. "a lot did, are you claiming a win?"
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282. "Just trying to get a laugh in a shitty situation bruh relax."
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I wasn't here at the beginning of this discussion so I couldn't claim a win anyway.

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484. "if nothing else, its evidence of how often wrongheaded you are."
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just saying.

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25. "Costco was kinda nuts right now"
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Not massive panic but EVERYONE was buying 2-4 cases of water... i know it's costco lol but more than normal, and I've never seen the top racks that bare.

But it's a snowball thing. I wound up buying extra water, tp, and batteries not so much from being worried about the virus but in case there winds up being shortage of these things.

Med professionals are already telling people to stop buying up all the masks. Not only are they not gonna keep you from getting the virus but people are cutting in to hospital supplies

Reminds me of after the 94 quake in LA. I worked at a grocery store. Every time an aftershock hit people poured in to stock up on water

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31. "I dont get the water thing"
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Are people thinking our drinking water is going to become compromised or something?

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32. "i think it's more the possibility of being stuck indoors"
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for a period of time

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33. "Water will still run if one is stuck indoors."
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34. "sure but say you're confined to your house for 2 weeks"
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it would be good to have drinking water.

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35. "I have a Brita filter"
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or are they saying the water would be contaminated?

IMO this shit is way overblown. If people have been in the US for months more than likely it’s not as serious as we suspected unless it lays dormant for a while and then mutates.

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39. "i don't have a filter, and tap water sucks in cali"
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and i agree it's probably overblown, but these things take on a life of their own.

i wound up buying extra water in case people buy up all the water. it's something I would buy anyway. I just bought more. I'm in Costco pretty much every week, and i've never seen empty upper racks like today. There are usually 5 different types of water. Today, just one.

plus it's good to be prepped anyway. not just for this but anything. earthquake, etc..

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36. "In places like SoCal and the SW it makes sense"
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Water restrictions exist, and SoCal is just an earthquake away from cutting water to a lot of people. Same with a severe drought in the SW. No one wants to worry about finding food and water when they are sick.


  

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26. "5 confirmed deaths in Washington State"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW3OJ73fya8

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27. "make that 6..."
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/03/02/coronavirus-live-updates/

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28. "LoL @ reply #20"
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"i m@d3 a F3w C@lLs & nO 0n3 i kN0wZ Di3d"

this new virus is so young and it's true lethality can't be measured yet

there's no way to treat it, no widespread testing in the US yet, no known way that it's spread


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37. "Hold up. 4 of them in nursing homes?"
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mostly old ass people with other underlying conditions.

Hmmm

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40. "4 from the SAME nursing home."
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as I said in my post about the school dist. above, there was a breakout at a nursing care facility. this is why there's a huge jump in reported cases and deaths here. almost ALL of those people (who aren't staff) have compromising conditions.

younger, healthier people appear to be getting mild, flu-like symptoms.

some people are testing positive with NO symptoms.

people are freaking out for, i won't say NO reason, but unnecessarily for sure.

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49. "Definitely worries about my FIL who just had lung surgery"
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but I’m not panicking and buying a bunch of shit...

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54. "Bro, can you please grab some extra food for the house?"
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And fill any prescriptions (if any).

>but I’m not panicking and buying a bunch of shit...

Being prepared isn't panicking, and by being prepared you can avoid panicking. Look at what happens in hurricane zones EVERY TIME a few days before the storm. Being one of those panicked buyers is what you want to avoid.


Edit: Man, fuck disaster... What about black friday:
https://youtu.be/iR71hJzsT-4
https://youtu.be/C6KARrSwPYo

  

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57. "man, real talk..."
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reading your reply from the other post made me take a look at my situation. Not even on some end of the world scenario, but say like a week without power. I make enough loot and have tons of storage in the crib where. I could have a little setup with bottle waters, Gatorade, non perishable items, maybe some shit stored in vacuum containers, a little propane type stove. So, good looking, for that. I really need to go ahead and bust out for a nice generator, for real.

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41. "Yeah, that's another reason I'm not gonna panic"
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I read that older folks and those with other illnesses like diabetes and high blood pressure are at higher risk. The symptoms are similar to a bad cold or the flu.

  

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42. "not that you should panic, but THEIR LIVES MATTER TOO"
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percentages of people are still PEOPLE...stop acting like they are throwaways...

my mother happens to be in that vulnerable demo and yes, i'd like to not have her die, thanks.

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43. "right?"
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i get it that im probably not in the demo to be worried for my life but uhm what about my mom? my grandmas? uncles? aunts? this could wipe out a high percentage of older people worldwide. thats mind boggling.

  

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45. "You jumped way out to an incorrect conclusion..."
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At no point did I even hint that other people's lives don't matter.

  

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46. "you right"
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what you wrote wasn't doing that per se...ive just been hearing people say this all day like it doesn't matter

my bad

  

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29. "2 cases confirmed in the Tampa Bay area."
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I'm not super concerned about this. I'm not going to avoid going out or stockpile stuff for the house.

"Two coronavirus cases confirmed in Florida, state reports
Florida’s two presumptive cases of coronavirus, in Hillsborough and Manatee counties, are now confirmed. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Monday supported the state’s initial tests."

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/03/02/coronavirus-in-florida-live-updates/

  

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38. "Already spread around the country. I'd guess it's a 5-digit number..."
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...of people infected in the US right now.

Could be even more. Maybe even me. I work in downtown Philly.


It's not an "if" question, but rather a "when"

  

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44. "Yeah, I think the numbers are a lot more widespread than"
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the "confirmed cases". Ive had a cold for the past week after getting back from traveling to SF. It could be coronavirus or could just be a cold, who knows? They are still saying "If you didn't go to China or contact someone who did then don't bother us". I think we know by now that that's not good enough.

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51. "yo Philly......."
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theres been something going around the past month! My parents have had it and been on 2 difference antibiotics, and are still sick. Not saying its corona, (it probably isnt) but this is some type of non normal flu going around in our area.

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52. "we are treating this like china. there are more cases than they let on."
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and even more cases they dont know about.

and will be many more cases snowballing because of the lack of prep/response/competence.

they just removed the amount of people tested from the cdc site because people criticized how slow it was going.
https://twitter.com/lmorello_dc/status/1234546144623104000

south korea is testing 10-15k per day. we hadnt even tested 500 as of a day ago.

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50. "2 folks confirmed in Atl have it. "
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one came back from Italy. that person spread it to whomeever they live with.

they followed the protocol of calling the doc. not going to ER when symptoms arose.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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53. "vp mike pence might have come into contact with the virus."
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https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1234822447947558915
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A student whose classmates met with and touched VP Pence is now quarantined.

On Friday, cadets at Sarasota Military Academy shook hands with Pence, who was visiting Sarasota for fundraiser. One cadet’s mom had been in contact with a coronavirus patient.
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how crazy would it be if trump/repubs continue to try to downplay the 'hoax' and pence starts bleeding from his nose and mouth at a press conference like a zombie outbreak flick.

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55. "*thoughts and prayers*"
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60. "damn"
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...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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58. "stop making me laugh during the apolcalypse :\"
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59. "I will be praying for him...."
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--
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70. "dont threaten me with a good time"
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http://perspectivesudans.blogspot.com/
i myself would never want to be god,or even like god.Because god got all these human beings on this planet and i most certainly would not want to be responsible for them, or even have the disgrace that i made them.

  

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61. "I don't get why sick mofos are still coming into work."
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They have been told time and time again to stay home by our leadership w/ no penalty but here they are coughing their guts out in the office.

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62. "This is infuriating"
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>They have been told time and time again to stay home by our
>leadership w/ no penalty but here they are coughing their guts
>out in the office.


This ain't the time for that goofy shit.

Almost everyone I've talked to seems completely oblivious to what we could be potentially dealing with here.

  

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63. "would help if carrot top stopped saying "
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its just like a cold/flu and will blow over in spring.

also, working from home works for some. I'm more concerned about those that can't do their jobs from home. mechanics, food service people, etc.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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65. "2 cases in New York State"
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https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/03/03/coronavirus-precautions-mta-plans-to-disinfect-subways-and-stations/

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66. "CLOSE THE FUCKING SCHOOLS YOU FUCKS!"
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67. "#DontTestDontTell"
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68. "First confirmed case in North Carolina (Wake County, link):"
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https://abc11.com/5982249/

  

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75. "patient in Wake came from the nursing home in Washington"
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At least that’s what my doctor told me this morning.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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97. "too close to home. person went to a restaurant, church, RDU, etc. "
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peace & blessings,

x.

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focus on working hard you end up making someone else rich and
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69. "9 deaths"
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https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/seventh-washington-state-residents-death-linked-to-coronavirus-disease/

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71. "I wonder if this is what the post would have looked like in the first da..."
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of The Walking Dead

♥ Inescapably Me ♥

"Love is never any better than the lover" Toni Morrison (The Bluest Eye)

  

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80. "Yup. Just like this."
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Crazy how disinterested and confident everyone apparently is that this is some shit that'll blow over in a few months.

We don't even have this post anchored.



People haven't realized that right now we are on the line between pre- and post- in a major historical event that we don't know the outcome of.

  

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72. "Vietnam Coronavirus Pop Song "
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https://youtu.be/7pFeKMWzclk

♥ Inescapably Me ♥

"Love is never any better than the lover" Toni Morrison (The Bluest Eye)

  

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73. "Apple co-founder Woz thinks he is patient zero"
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https://youtu.be/Nsz-JQVJAbw

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74. "that host looks mad...porn actress-y. wtf. "
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81. "Woz ain't quite right anymore"
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But we still love him.

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Gone: My Discogs collection for The Roots:
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84. "don't watch youtube videos about stupid fucking tweets"
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woz has a head injury, you literally cannot listen to him and it was debunked immediately.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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76. "Anyone having problems buying toilet paper and paper towels. "
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panic hasn’t hit NC yet.

Our shelves are stocked

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78. "Nah. Grab what you need now man."
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Real panic buying would start when more/certain people start dying. Right now, it's still getting/being prepared.

Panic buying is when you see someone with 100 bags of Honey Ranch Fritos because they waited way too long and that was all that was left.

  

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77. "Patient under investigation for COVID-19 in Philadelphia"
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Only posting this UNCONFIRMED case because it's in my city.

https://www.fox29.com/news/patient-under-investigation-for-covid-19-coronavirus-in-philadelphia

Still not single email or mention of this from my job. I work downtown, in one of the busiest areas in the city. Not even signs up to wash hands & stay home if you're sick. About to grab some lysol and start cleaning the door handles myself.

  

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102. "One confirmed case in Camden County"
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The guy is in his 60's I think.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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104. "same across the board"
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work in philly
work downtown in a building above suburban station...
not one mention from my work, like it's not even happening...


weak.



werd.

  

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79. "Tampa coronavirus patient says CDC didn't take her seriously (swipe)"
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https://www.fox13news.com/news/tampa-coronavirus-patient-says-cdc-did-not-take-her-health-concerns-seriously

TAMPA, Fla. - Friends who traveled took a vacation to Italy have tested positive for the COVID-19 coronavirus in Hillsborough County, and now one of them insists she tried to warn authorities that she was sick before she boarded her connecting flight from New York to Tampa International Airport.

The two women – who represent two of the three coronavirus patients in Florida – are both their 20s. They recently got back from a trip to Italy, a country under a travel warning by the CDC.

The woman says they had masks with them and wore them as a precaution in Italy, and also used sanitizing wipes. But during the last few days of their trip, one of them began feeling unwell. They both got a plane back to the U.S., and the already sick woman noticed her health getting worse.

Once she landed in New York, she says she had a fever. The 29-year-old said she called the CDC to let them know where she had been and how she was feeling but, despite her flu-like symptoms and travel history, she says she was cleared to fly from New York back to Tampa.

"No one sounded prepared. No one at the CDC sounded prepared or educated on what was going on. When talking about an outbreak in Milan, Italy, I think they should know what part of the country that’s in," she told FOX 13 by phone.

It wasn't until she landed in Tampa that she was tested for novel coronavirus COVID-19.

While she wants to remain anonymous, she said she's frustrated she wasn't taken seriously, sooner.

“I 1,000% had symptoms when I landed in the states. I don’t blame Tampa. We were coming in from another domestic flight,” she added.

That was a week ago. Since then, she and her friend have been in self-quarantine at her house, remaining out of contact with anyone. The women say they are both doing OK, just trying to recover.

She told FOX 13 News they had groceries delivered to her home.

"It feels like we’re the test dummy. We are walking everyone through the procedure for the next bout of confirmations.”

They declined to say specifically what flights they were on. They did say they wore protestive masks during their travels and they have since provided their travel details to the CDC.

FOX 13 has reached out to the CDC and we are awaiting an official response to these claims.

Meanwhile, Tampa Airport spokesperson Emily Nipps told FOX 13 that the airport has "stepped up" its cleaning and sanitation efforts, "particularly around high-touch areas." Nipps said extra hand sanitizer and signage were being placed throughout the facilities.

If you feel sick:
The Florida Department of Health has opened a COVID-19 Call Center at 1-866-779-6121. Agents will answer questions Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Questions may also be emailed to covid-19@flhealth.gov. Email responses will be sent during call center hours.

  

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82. "11 dead including first death in California"
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/04/health/us-coronavirus-update-wednesday/index.html

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83. "tonight they shut down my kid's school district for 2 weeks."
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103. "wow...so are you staying home too or you have help?"
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85. "The coronavirus spread in NY in less than 48 hours from"
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a man to his family, then to his neighbors, and then to friends. NY is in trouble.

take a message

  

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86. "im surprised there isnt more activity around atlanta."
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just with hjaia being the top international hub in the country and a big east coast destination connector for west coast origin flights.

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87. ""Novel" means "never seen before""
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Had to look it up, since I wasn't familiar with that term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novel_virus
https://www.who.int/csr/disease/coronavirus_infections/faq_dec12/en/

  

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88. "exactly. SARS & MURS are also corona...this strain is new."
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89. "New Jersey has its first confirmed case today"
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/05/nyregion/coronavirus-nj.html

  

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90. "Must be nice to be wealthy rich to avoid a virus outbreak"
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-concierge doctors, available respiratory nurses/techs
-yachts turned into the USNS Comfort
-chartered planes with no cancel/delay flights
-germ-free giveaways

healthcare for all who can afford it

take a message

  

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91. "Don't forget the isolated land that many probably own"
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Would be nice if we all had the resources to just go to "the ranch" and not leave for a year or two, if necessary.

  

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93. "oh word, phuck being in solitary confinement while I sip this "
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Mai Tai and watch the sunset go down on the poor and working class

take a message

  

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92. "i never get this take."
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as much as i hate wealth hoarding and wealth inequality, like, yes, that's literally a reason why most rich folks get rich...when stuff likes this pops up it's an added benefit.

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94. "im not hating, i would do the exact samething if I was jeff bezos"
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ex-wife

take a message

  

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95. "me too. if you have the means to protect yourself, why not?"
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i'd like to think i'd use some of my EXCESSIVE wealth to try to protect others.

i'd hope, anyway.

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98. "There's a good chance there's no escaping this long term."
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At best you can control *WHEN* you're exposed - but we're already well onto pandemic status among the developed world.

I'm being careful, but I'm basically preparing to be sick.

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101. "right because people that have all that still have employees and staff....."
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that have to go out and be in contact with the real world.

  

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96. "Coronavirus patient recovers treated with HIV drug"
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New York Post : Coronavirus patient in Spain reportedly recovers after being treated with HIV drug.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/05/coronavirus-patient-in-spain-reportedly-recovers-after-being-treated-with-hiv-drug/

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105. "is this story real? is the MSM scamming us?"
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i googled this and it's only the sus news sites that have anything on this.

NY Post, Daily Mail, The Sun.

hmmmm.

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106. "I don't know"
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Maybe other news outlets are not reporting it because it is only one case and not official treatment. But they did report testing of such drugs.

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-02-13/fighting-covid-19-with-drugs-targeting-hiv-malaria-ebola

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/feb/20/doctors-hiv-ebola-drugs-coronavirus-cure-covid-19

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/4/21154590/coronavirus-vaccine-treatment-covid-19-drug-cure

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109. "they've definitely tried retrovirals in treatment in China"
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I can't speak to this story, but there's some common stuff in there about how HIV attacks and how this works.

I don't think it's solidly like "This is how you treat it" yet though

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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112. "word. that part did actually make sense..."
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and like was mentioned before, i had heard mention somewhere they it was THOUGHT that maybe some HIV drugs might be effective against this because of how the COVID19 replicates.

i hope this does end up being true. would save a lot of lives it sounds like.

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148. "all the later updates I saw suggested it didn't really work"
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but idk

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99. "this virus hates men"
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not only are majority infected or test positive by it, but its killing primarily them.

sorry to you men.

take a message

  

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108. "Seems fair. "
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110. "2020 would bring the cancel culture virus"
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111. "*snicker*"
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114. "times up (c)"
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100. "this atlantic article is sobering"
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"Through interviews with dozens of public-health officials and a survey of local data from across the country, The Atlantic could only verify that 1,895 people have been tested for the coronavirus in the United States, about 10 percent of whom have tested positive. And while the American capacity to test for the coronavirus has ramped up significantly over the past few days, local officials can still test only several thousand people a day, not the tens or hundreds of thousands indicated by the White House’s promises."

contrast to:
"The CDC confirmed eight days ago that the virus was in community transmission in the United States—that it was infecting Americans who had neither traveled abroad nor were in contact with others who had. In South Korea, more than 66,650 people were tested within a week of its first case of community transmission, and it quickly became able to test 10,000 people a day. The United Kingdom, which has only 115 positive cases, has so far tested 18,083 people for the virus."

"Normally, the job of gathering these types of data in the U.S. would be left to epidemiologists at the CDC. The agency regularly collects and publishes positive and negative test results for several pathogens, including multiple types of the seasonal flu. But earlier this week, the agency announced that it would stop publishing negative results for the coronavirus, an extraordinary step that essentially keeps Americans from knowing how many people have been tested overall."

"Throughout February, the CDC published a regular tally of Americans who had been tested for the pathogen. Last Saturday, several days after the country’s first case of community transmission was confirmed, that figure was 472.

Then the agency stopped updating the tally. It did not publish new numbers of how many Americans had been tested for the virus on Sunday or Monday, as public criticism of the sluggish response to the disease began to mount. On Tuesday, it announced that it would stop publishing the figure altogether."

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/how-many-americans-have-been-tested-coronavirus/607597/

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107. "sxsw cancelled"
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116. "This was an overreaction"
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This would be like canceling a music festival because it was the height of flu season and flu shot usage was way down.

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119. "not in a country that isn't adequately testing people"
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coronavirus is NOT the flu

from many medical professional's estimates, it could be way worse. some are saying its more like a cross between SARS and AIDS with the way it rapidly attacks both the lungs and the immune system.

"could" is an important word because there is still so much unknown about the virus. the SAFEST thing to do is to treat it like its way worse than the flu. its better to lose money than thousands of lives.

in addition, early reports from recovered patients and autopsies are worrying as it's possible that even those that recover could have irreversible lung damage. Again, that isn't confirmed yet, but its concerning enough to take stopping the spread of something we don't know everything about extremely seriously.

All major gatherings in the US of over 1000 people should be cancelled in the U.S. asap.

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128. "No, it’s not really like that"
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more like if flu shots did not exist.

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130. "maybe you dont know that much about SXSW"
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close to half a million people travel from all over the globe to link in Austin

  

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134. "*insert bugs bunny "no" meme*"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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147. "Man. I don’t think you grasp what SXSW is like"
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For travel, interaction, small space, low hygiene ... etc

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226. "I just found out that they're refusing refunds to the thousands who"
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bought fucking tickets.
That's so bogus that I actually hope it ends the festival.
Fuck them.

https://pagesix.com/2020/03/10/sxsw-refusing-to-issue-refunds-after-being-canceled-due-to-coronavirus/

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113. "government are some idiots. making a perfect storm for transmission. "
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combination of not having tests and drastic limitation of who gets tested AND letting dumbass trump tell people to go to work with the shit...

recipe for disaster.

1 - this ain't china. in a non-authoritarian country, short of martial law you can't do what they did as far as closing down entire cities with millions of people. y'all really think they gonna build 3 new hospitals in 10 days in the US? they gonna give the contracts to some distant trump crony who never even built a fuckin 7-11 before.

2 - unlike in other countries where healthcare is free or heavily subsidized, people here will be worried about paying for getting checked out, for treatment. and, left to our own devices, ppl here go to work sick b/c they don't get sick days. definitely not for the low wage jobs where you be having the most customer contact.

3 - the disease spread was damn near geometric in china in spite of those crazy efforts. we fucked around over here (and by 'we' i mean the bitchass trump administration) for over a month. STILL don't have tests (nc governor just said today that they have 150 tests, with another 500 coming 'soon'). meanwhile s korea is testing everything that moves. but they are ahead of us as far as the disease spread.

4 - we got mad fatalities already, but are not testing ppl they've come in contact with. and this is transmissible asymptomatically, so who knows how many people have been infected.

bonus - trump overruled the cdc and flew the cruise ship ppl home, mixing infected and uninfected individuals to quarantine at a military base in CA. then, for good measure, they flew 14 personnel from health and human services to meet with quarantined people, face to face, with no fucking protective gear. and those 14 civilians then dispersed, staying in local hotels, flying domestically, doing what the fuck ever.

i could not create a fictional account of a more fucking stupid approach to a potential pandemic.

for all those on that "flu kills more people"... from chinese data (who knows how accurate), it is around 3.4% mortality, which is approx 34x more deadly than the flu. if it is as transmissible as the flu, that's maybe 1.5m deaths in the US. s korea has been going ham with the testing, so their numbers may be more realistic. US numbers are dumb high b/c we're not testing people, so the numbers we see of known covid-19 deaths infer at least a 30x number of infected.



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115. "right now *our* mortality rate is 2-3x the global avg."
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the richest most industrialized in the world.

these dudes talking about we got it contained and under control.

who knows how many other people have been infected and/or died with the current lack of testing/diagnosis.

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118. "that mortality rate is driven by the denominator"
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because we aren't testing nearly enough the number of people exposed
its based on a small sample
there's no reason for there to be a higher mortality rate here than in other places
the only way this would be the case is if we had an older population (so i would look at japan for a comparative assessment)


that said
we are *really* fucking up.
and you and poetx are rightly so in pointing this out
as someone in public health.... its insane to watch this response play out
its beyond incompetence- like people are willing to play with life just to suck on the tits of the most incompetent human alive

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122. "right, our mortality rate is way overstated..."
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because we aren't testing now and weren't testing early.

there may be thousands of people who've had it and were fine that would inflate that numerator.

additionally, that one nursing home in Kirkland, near me, had an outbreak in a place full of the most at risk people that went completely unchecked. that's inflating the denominator.

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125. "the issue is that not testing is hastening the spread. each infected "
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person (in china, and i think it held up in s korea, where it trust the data better) infected > 2 other ppl.

china locked down entire cities. s korea has tested over 200k people.

in the US we have potentially 2 -3k infected people who could be asymptomatic and infecting 6k ppl. who will then infect 12k. then 24k. then 48k. then 96k. then 192... then 384k, then 768k, then 1.5m

if the 80% who get mild cases are never identified and controlled, we can end up with over a million people infected, with 20% of cases being major, that's 200k hospitalization cases which would overwhelm our healthcare system.

china took a huge L on their economy because they understood how serious this was. it looks like it paid off and that their outbreak has peaked.

stupid ass trump is seriously musing about letting all the people die on the ship so the US' numbers don't go up. and put all business and pr type people in charge of this to try to keep from fucking up the stock market, which is already fucked up.

this is being handled in the worst possible way.



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126. "ah good points."
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is there a possibility that along with an under-represented infection diagnoses number (due to lack of testing)...they are also under-representing deaths due to lack of specialized tests and misdiagnoses (flu, etc)?

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152. "possible. but i don't think so. look at the curve we've been on since "
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last week. we're about 2 weeks behind italy.

this thing would have been noticed if it was following this same trajectory in the wild, b/c in a local epicenter the hospitals and health care systems would have been overwhelmed. which is what is happening as it spreads and ramps here.

china says its cases have plateaued. s korea says theirs have and we have less reason to be skeptical of them. china got up over 80k cases and 3k deaths before they said they got a handle on it. using tools not at our disposal:

- real id on social media
- pervasive monitoring and facial recognition to deter ppl breaking quarantine
- ppl mad scared of the government (as opposed to, say, congressmen 'choosing' not to self-isolate, and ppl out in the midwest going to a school dance when they supposed to be on quarantine
- ability to absorb the economic shot of almost all businesses grinding to a halt
- an existing manufacturing base that could be quickly retooled to produce masks and other items needed by the effort
- ability to build 3 hospitals in 10 days.
- ability to isolate an entire region with up to 60 m ppl


china messed around in the early phases of this and tried to contain it on the low before it became public.

if our numbers follow the same trajectory, it will be very very bad. if the spread is worse here (and it may be due to the incompetence of this regime), it may be catastrophic


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117. "wife's job handed out 1st aid kits yesterday"
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equipped with mask, hand sanitizer, and etc.

She works in right outside Philly.

Im so scared i might have me a corona beer today to calm my nerves.

  

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120. "How Bad is the Corona Virus? Let's Run the Numbers (Swipe)"
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Easily digestible article on Corona Virus and where it stands relative to other diseases (Ebola, SARS, MERS, Spanish Flu, Seasonal Flu and others) in terms of Approximate Fatality Rate, Case Fatality Rate, Contagiousness, and more.

Full article below but I'd recommend the link for the graphs

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-03-05/how-bad-is-the-coronavirus-let-s-compare-with-sars-ebola-flu

By Justin Fox
March 5, 2020, 8:30 AM EST

The coronavirus outbreak has been turning a lot of us into amateur epidemiologists. Just listen to Mick Mulvaney, the former real estate developer and member of Congress from South Carolina who is now acting White House chief of staff. “The flu kills people,” he said last week. “This is not Ebola. It’s not SARS, it’s not MERS. It’s not a death sentence, it’s not the same as the Ebola crisis.”

All those statements are true. The flu does kill people: an estimated 61,099 in the U.S. in the worst recent flu season, that of 2017-2018. People who get Covid-19, the World Health Organization’s shorthand for Coronavirus Disease 2019, 1 are much less likely to die than those infected with Ebola, the Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome of 2003 and the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome first reported in 2012. And no, this is not the same as the Ebola crisis.

It’s not the same as the 2014 Ebola crisis in part because it appears to be a much bigger deal for the U.S. and other countries outside of West Africa. As Microsoft Corp. co-founder Bill Gates, also technically an amateur epidemiologist but by this point quite a well-informed one, put it Friday in the New England Journal of Medicine: “Covid-19 has started behaving a lot like the once-in-a-century pathogen we’ve been worried about.”

How do we reconcile these differing views of Covid-19? Well, I too am an amateur as an epidemiologist, but I find that charts and (very simple) equations help me think through things. On the theory that others might find this helpful, too, let’s start with the approximate case-fatality rates for the diseases listed by Mulvaney and a few others you may have heard of.

How Deadly Is That Disease?
Approximate case-fatality rate


Sources: World Health Organization, Centers for Disease Control, MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis

These fatality rates can change a lot depending on time and place and access to treatment. The Covid-19 rate is obviously a moving target, so I’ve included both the 3.4% worldwide mortality rate reported this week by the World Health Organization and the 1% estimate from a study released Feb. 10 by the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis at Imperial College London that factored in probable unreported cases. The authors of that study also said that, given the information available at the time, they were 95% confident the correct fatality rate was somewhere between 0.5% and 4%. Gates used the 1% estimate in his article, and when I ran it by Caroline Buckee, an actual professional epidemiologist who is a professor at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health, she termed it “reasonable.”

In a context that includes Ebola and MERS, the Covid-19 death rates are much closer to those of the flu, and it’s understandable why people find the comparison reassuring. Compare Covid-19 with just the flu, though, and it becomes clear how different they are.

A Lot Worse Than the Flu
Case-fatality rate


Sources: World Health Organization, Centers for Disease Control, MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis

The 61,099 flu-related deaths in the U.S. during the severe flu season of 2017-2018 amounted to 0.14% of the estimated 44.8 million cases of influenza-like illness. There were also an estimated flu-related 808,129 hospitalizations, for a rate of 1.8%. Assume a Covid-19 outbreak of similar size in the U.S., multiply the death and hospitalization estimates by five or 10, and you get some really scary numbers: 300,000 to 600,000 deaths, and 4 million to 8 million hospitalizations in a country that has 924,107 staffed hospital beds. Multiply by 40 and, well, forget about it. Also, death rates would go higher if the hospital system is overwhelmed, as happened in the Chinese province of Hubei where Covid-19’s spread began and seems to be happening in Iran now. That’s one reason that slowing the spread is important even if it turns out the disease can’t be stopped.

Could Covid-19 really spread as widely as the flu? If allowed to, sure. The standard metric for infectiousness is what’s called the reproduction number, or R0. It is usually pronounced “R naught,” and the zero after the R should be rendered in subscript, but it’s a simple enough concept. An R0 of one means each person with the disease can be expected to infect one more person. If the number dips below one, the disease will peter out. If it gets much above one, the disease can spread rapidly.

Here are R0s for the same list of diseases as above. These are rough approximations, in most cases the midpoints of quite-large ranges. But they do give a sense of relative infectiousness.

How Contagious Is That Disease?
Approximate reproduction number (R0)


Sources: World Health Organization, Centers for Disease Control, King Saud University, Nature

This helps explain why public health authorities want everybody to get vaccinated against the measles. It’s not all that deadly a disease, but once it gets going in an unvaccinated population, everybody gets it.

The numbers also seem to indicate that Covid-19 is a lot more contagious than the seasonal flu. Average R0 isn’t the whole story, though. Why all the worry about MERS, for example, which with an R0 below one shouldn’t spread at all? Well, it’s extremely deadly, its R0 can rise above one in certain environments, among them hospitals, and ... you can catch it from your camel.

Then there’s SARS, which is both deadlier than Covid-19 and has a similar R0. Why was it wiped out in about a year, while some experts warn that Covid-19 may be around forever? Because SARS usually didn’t become contagious until several days after symptoms appeared. This meant that, as four British infectious disease experts wrote in 2004, “actions taken during this period to isolate or quarantine ill patients can effectively interrupt transmission.” They proposed adding another variable to disease-transmission models: the proportion of transmission occurring prior to symptoms. For SARS, this was less than 11%, probably much less. For influenza, it is between 30% and 50%, making it far harder to control the disease’s spread.

With Covid-19, “it seems that it can transmit quite a bit before symptoms occur,” Buckee says. How much is still up in the air. World Health Organization Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus has been arguing this week that pre-symptomatic transmission appears to be low enough that Covid-19 can be controlled in ways that the flu cannot. “If this was an influenza epidemic, we would have expected to see widespread community transmission across the globe by now,” he said Monday, “and efforts to slow it down or contain it would not be feasible.”

To understand how the spread of such a disease can be contained, it helps to break R0 down to its constituent parts. A simple formula that I got from Buckee is:

the probability of infection given contact with an infectious person (b), multiplied by
the contact rate (k), multiplied by
the infectious duration (d)
In some cases you can shorten the infectious duration with treatment. Quarantining people once you know they’re infected effectively shortens it, too. Variables b and k, meanwhile, are clearly dependent on behavior. The probability of infection is reduced by things like frequent hand-washing, replacing handshakes with fist bumps and such. The contact rate is reduced by staying home. By putting much of the country on lockdown, Chinese authorities reduced the contact rate enough that Covid-19’s R0 in the country fell below one. They also incurred huge economic and social costs. Now, as China begins to go back to work, the big question is whether a less-draconian approach can keep the disease in check or whether it will just start spreading again.

That’s the big question in the U.S., Europe and pretty much everywhere else on earth too. It can’t be answered entirely by professional epidemiologists, either. Weighing whether the costs of a particular intervention are worth the benefits is at heart a political decision. So it’s actually good that politicians are moonlighting as amateur epidemiologists. Some of them may just need to study a little harder.

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121. "Stanford just cancelled in person classes for the rest of the quarter. "
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to be fair, there's like, a week and half left in the quarter.

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123. "it's going to be a problem when people get fed up with quarantines"
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and cancellations.

i don't have a strong opinion either way, but the lack of coordination in official responses is only going to get worse. the inevitable pushback and second guessing is going to be disruptive for schools, healthcare institutions, and businesses.

and the next time it comes up with another disease, potentially something worse, makes me real nervous.

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124. "Low key reminds me of that Chris Rock joke about being blind "
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“Here nigga here’s a dog to walk your ass around”...

With this it’s like “Not sure what to do niggas just stay the fuck inside I guess” lmao

  

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131. "They just closed my office (NYC)."
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142. "i have an educated guess :) only cuz i know someone else"
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whose office closed

and i know how brilliant you are.

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132. "View from the other side of the world"
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I live in Dubai. GCC countries have instituted their precautions - with Saudi instituting a travel ban to and from basically all neighboring countries and Italy and canceling school for the remainder of the year. Here in the UAE, schools are closed for the next four months for cleaning and disenfecting and heavy tourist areas areas being cleaned non-stop.

The issue is however, that with most of these nations being sultanates, the government control on information is heavily regulated, if not untrue. UAE is reporting 15 cases, when the number is likely much, much higher. Doctors don't see the results, as they go straight to the authorities. Makes it hard for those on the ground to know what's really going on.

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133. "My theory... it’s been here for a while we just didn’t test for it. "
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and I’m mad af because it may ruin my vacation.

Smh. Who woulda thought a pandemic would break out after we finally book our first trip out the country?

Supposed to go to San Antonio. That might not happen either.

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135. "define a while...bc...the impact on nursing homes"
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would have been obvious

one nursing home got hit and the death toll shot up

younger folks could probably get away with being asymptomatic but i doubt the nursing homes would just be chilling with the virus running rampant

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136. "3 to 6 months"
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Serious question:

Is it really out of the ordinary for nursing home to have deaths at this rate?

Cause an 80 year old person dying.. who also had other underlying issues isn’t really that serious.

My point is when people who are younger and healthier start having a rapid decline I think it’s a serious problem.

I’m just throwing out a theory tho.



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137. "i agree with this... it's been here for a minute.."
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138. "they think it's been in Washington state"
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for about 2+ months now, hence community spread

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141. "YUP."
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me and wife are operating under the idea that we (the whole family) have already had it based on the description of symptoms as far back as mid february. we all had a lingering cough that just. would. not. go. away. long after the fucked up fever and sickness part.



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145. "It’s here in San Antonio too"
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They closed down an entire mall.

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150. "yeah, seems like everyone in my circle"
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and folks here at the office had similar symptoms jan/feb

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161. ""We out-chea!" - Coronavirus"
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
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139. "NY Port Authority Head Tests Positive For Coronavirus"
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/09/nyregion/port-authority-rick-cotton-coronavirus.html

Rick Cotton, the executive director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which operates the region’s major airports, bridges, tunnels and bus terminals, has tested positive for the coronavirus, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York announced on Monday.

Mr. Cotton is one of the most prominent public officials in the United States to have contracted the virus.

Mr. Cuomo said that Mr. Cotton, who had been overseeing the Port Authority’s response to the virus, had self-quarantined at his home and would be working remotely.

“He has been at the airports, obviously, when many people were coming back with the virus,” Mr. Cuomo said at a news conference. Mr. Cuomo suggested that Mr. Cotton might have been infected as part of his work on behalf of the authority at Kennedy International Airport, noting that it “was one of the main airports for people coming in on those overseas flights.”

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140. "Add Louisiana to the list (swipe). We just had Mardi Gras so it was..."
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just a matter of when the first case would appear.

https://www.nola.com/news/coronavirus/article_38bcc6ca-411f-11ea-9c37-2b1c2b68ccd5.html

The presumptive first case of the new coronavirus, which has been linked to numerous deaths, has been confirmed in Louisiana, according to the governor's office.

The person is a Jefferson Parish resident who is at an Orleans Parish hospital.

The case is considered "presumptive" until it is confirmed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control.

The new virus, COVID-19, is a member of the coronavirus family that can cause colds or more serious illnesses such as SARS and MERS.

The virus can cause fever, coughing, wheezing and pneumonia. Health officials said they believe it spreads mainly from droplets when an infected person coughs or sneezes, similar to how the flu spreads.

Officials are advising people to take steps to avoid infection with coronavirus or other respiratory infections like colds or the flu, including washing hands with soap and water and avoiding close contact with people who are sick.

According to data from China, where coronavirus originated, the elderly are at a heightened risk. The disease has about a 2% mortality rate and about 80% of cases are mild. But in people ages 70 to 79, that fatality rate shot up to 8%. In those over 80, the fatality rate was almost 15%.

Officials have warned that the fatality rate may be skewed due to the underreporting of mild cases where infected people experience few or no symptoms.

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143. "fulton county schools closing for tomorow to clean the "
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schools. an employee from the school district has it.

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144. "The shitty Outbreak/Contagion parody continues (CPAC fall-out)"
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That CPAC went from a three-day trolling event about COVID being a liberal hoax, to Republican representatives quarantining themselves because some genius attending the event actually had it, to it being revealed that Drumf himself may have been exposed to it, is either the most brilliant or stupidly obvious plot twist ever.

The movie version of this would have to be directed by either Paul Greengrass or Mel Brooks.

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146. "imagine these people if Obama was president"
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Fox would have people bunkers

Ted Cruz in quarantine now.

Trump's twitter today is indistinguishable from one of his maga cult memebers (even moreseo than on a normal day)


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151. "One of my neighbors works at Biogen "
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Which now there are numerous new cases in my area because of one of their conferences in Massachusetts recently.

My mom is in her mid-70s just finished chemo in December so I'm doing everything in my power to ensure she's safe.

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153. "Oof"
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>My mom is in her mid-70s just finished chemo in December so
>I'm doing everything in my power to ensure she's safe.

I've got a few severely immunocompromised people in my life, but none of them are that close. So the only things I have to do to keep them safe are passive - a lot of "don't" including the rather obvious "we can just not see each other for a bit". Couldn't imagine if it were my mom. Good luck, boss.

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Unfortunately, I can't not see her for an extended period as she lives with me as I've been the caretaker over the last year

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155. "Please tell your mom I’m thinking of her. "
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160. "I wish her and you the best."
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If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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156. "so if I have theater tickets in NYC this weekend..."
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159. "I went to the theatre a week ago"
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And folks were coughing without covering their mouths. It was gross and made me so paranoid.

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166. "No way I'd go to the theater, or any other large gatherings right now"
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Your health > entertainment & $$$

  

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168. "Everyone should be staying home. I hope you do too."
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173. "DON'T GO."
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people really need to get the fuck over themselves (not you, just generally) and help stop the spread of this shit


Broadway needs to shut down. sporting events, concerts, conferences. everything.

Cuz clearly Americans can't stop fucking needing to entertain themselves instead of focusing on all of our health needs

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180. "should we go to work or nah?"
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if i can ride the train and sit in an office i can do all that other stuff.

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189. "you need to go to work to make money"
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you don't need to do all the extra stuff, at least for a couple of weeks.

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203. "You realize that all the other stuff is work for someone"
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Else right?

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217. "This is my worry."
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We got March 20th and 22nd March Madness games. We've got Berkshire Hathaway the first week of May. Meanwhile they're moving Seattle Mariners out of Seattle for all of March, forcing the Warriors to play to empty crowds, canceling E3 and GDC...


My full-time job is managing a bar near this event center, and winter in the midwest is ROUGH for part-timers while some other full-timers barely squeak by. It's all in the name of gearing up for patio season and these spring events (I almost forgot the Olympic Swim Trials...) and now this fucking virus is threatening to undercut an entire industry.


The weirdest part is, the Dark Desus side of me hopes the service industry side of this spirals out of control and our country can have a real conversation not about minimum wage for service workers but employer health insurance, or the single payer system most of us could actually afford. Because none of us are getting tested, we're just taking Ibuprofen and crossing our fingers. And regulars know this; casuals who read that Washington Post article this weekend are being reminded of it.


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231. "Yep...i hear you"
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325. "Cuomo made your decision for you today, effective tomorrow"
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link: https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/coronavirus/2020/03/12/broadway-coronavirus

swipe:

Broadway Suspends Performances Through April 12 Due to Coronavirus

Broadway has suspended all of its performances due to the coronavirus, the Broadway League announced Thursday.

They will be suspended through at least April 12.

The announcement comes after Governor Andrew Cuomo announced on Thursday that gatherings of 500 or more people will be suspended statewide.

Cuomo said this guidance will go into effect as of 5 p.m. Friday, but he said it was going into effect for Broadway as of 5 p.m. Thursday.

Various other arts locations, including Carnegie Hall, the Met Opera and the Met Museum, announced on Thursday that they are closing as well.

Officials at the Met Opera and Carnegie Hall say all rehearsals and performances through March 31 are closed in both places. Carnegie Hall says its cancellations go into effect at midnight Thursday.

The Met Museum will temporarily close all three of its locations - The Met Fifth Avenue, The Met Breuer and the Met Cloisters - starting March 13.

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157. "the US is short 300,000 ICU beds"
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International experts in public health including Dr. Galvani, member of the team from Yale that confronted the Ebola outbreak, and the president of the National Nurses United union accompanied Sen. Bernie Sanders today on a panel to give the nation much needed insight into public health policy and the latest developments with the emerging pandemic.

At 1 hour 4 minutes she says their simulations show we are weeks from running out of ICU beds, and we need 300,000 from the current 90,000:

https://youtu.be/h6ccigNCsM4?t=3757

Dr. El Sayed says the "doubling time" of infection cases in Washington state appears to be six days.

  

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158. "I see a lot of people saying right now that it's all media hype"
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etc etc

and they don't seem to realize that while yes, many people will not die from having coronavirus, a lot of people will get very sick from it, and won't know they're sick until they've already had it for a while and spread it to others who are suddenly sick too.

by the time we know how much it's spread it will be too late, look at Italy. ugh

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193. "we need to skip media talking heads. "
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the kind of actual expertise that makes it to reddit's /coronavirus board is crazy.
projections are all US hospital beds could be filled by may.

i think they essentially stopped the testing in the US out of a lack of preparedness and probably getting the camps and quarantines ready.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/


The Risk of Systemic Healthcare Failure Due to COVID-19

3/6/2020

By Liz Specht @LizSpecht UCSD PhD Biology, John Hopkins ChemBE Assoc. Director of Science & Technology, Good Food Institute

I think most people aren’t aware of the risk of systemic healthcare failure due to #COVID19 because they simply haven’t run the numbers yet. Let’s talk math.

Let’s conservatively assume that there are 2,000 current cases in the US today, March 6th. This is about 8x the number of confirmed (lab-diagnosed) cases. We know there is substantial under-Dx due to lack of test kits; I’ll address implications later of under-/over-estimate. We can expect that we’ll continue to see a doubling of cases every 6 days (this is a typical doubling time across several epidemiological studies). Here I mean actual cases. Confirmed cases may appear to rise faster in the short term due to new test kit rollouts. We’re looking at about 1M US cases by the end of April, 2M by ~May 5, 4M by ~May 11, and so on. Exponentials are hard to grasp, but this is how they go.

As the healthcare system begins to saturate under this case load, it will become increasingly hard to detect, track, and contain new transmission chains. In absence of extreme interventions, this likely won’t slow significantly until hitting >>1% of susceptible population.

What does a case load of this size mean for healthcare system? We’ll examine just two factors — hospital beds and masks — among many, many other things that will be impacted.

The US has about 2.8 hospital beds per 1000 people. With a population of 330M, this is ~1M beds. At any given time, 65% of those beds are already occupied. That leaves about 330k beds available nationwide (perhaps a bit fewer this time of year with regular flu season, etc).

Let’s trust Italy’s numbers and assume that about 10% of cases are serious enough to require hospitalization. (Keep in mind that for many patients, hospitalization lasts for weeks — in other words, turnover will be very slow as beds fill with COVID19 patients). By this estimate, by about May 8th, all open hospital beds in the US will be filled. (This says nothing, of course, about whether these beds are suitable for isolation of patients with a highly infectious virus.) If we’re wrong by a factor of two regarding the fraction of severe cases, that only changes the timeline of bed saturation by 6 days in either direction. If 20% of cases require hospitalization, we run out of beds by ~May 2nd. If only 5% of cases require it, we can make it until ~May 14th. 2.5% gets us to May 20th. This, of course, assumes that there is no uptick in demand for beds from other (non-COVID19) causes, which seems like a dubious assumption.

As healthcare system becomes increasingly burdened, Rx shortages, etc., people w/ chronic conditions that are normally well-managed may find themselves slipping into severe states of medical distress requiring intensive care & hospitalization. But let’s ignore that for now. Alright, so that’s beds. Now masks. Feds say we have a national stockpile of 12M N95 masks and 30M surgical masks (which are not ideal, but better than nothing). There are about 18M healthcare workers in the US. Let’s assume only 6M HCW are working on any given day. (This is likely an underestimate as most people work most days of the week, but again, I’m playing conservative at every turn.) As COVID19 cases saturate virtually every state and county, which seems likely to happen any day now, it will soon be irresponsible for all HCWs to not wear a mask. These HCWs would burn through N95 stockpile in 2 days if each HCW only got ONE mask per day. One per day would be neither sanitary nor pragmatic, though this is indeed what we saw in Wuhan, with HCWs collapsing on their shift from dehydration because they were trying to avoid changing their PPE suits as they cannot be reused.

How quickly could we ramp up production of new masks? Not very fast at all. The vast majority are manufactured overseas, almost all in China. Even when manufactured here in US, the raw materials are predominantly from overseas... again, predominantly from China. Keep in mind that all countries globally will be going through the exact same crises and shortages simultaneously. We can’t force trade in our favor.

Now consider how these 2 factors – bed and mask shortages – compound each other’s severity. Full hospitals + few masks + HCWs running around between beds without proper PPE = very bad mix. HCWs are already getting infected even w/ access to full PPE. In the face of PPE limitations this severe, it’s only a matter of time. HCWs will start dropping from the workforce for weeks at a time, leading to a shortage of HCWs that then further compounds both issues above.

We could go on and on about thousands of factors – # of ventilators, or even simple things like saline drip bags. You see where this is going. Importantly, I cannot stress this enough: even if I’m wrong – even VERY wrong – about core assumptions like % of severe cases or current case #, it only changes the timeline by days or weeks. This is how exponential growth in an immunologically naïve population works.

Undeserved panic does no one any good. But neither does ill-informed complacency. It’s wrong to assuage the public by saying “only 2% will die.” People aren’t adequately grasping the national and global systemic burden wrought by this swift-moving of a disease. I’m an engineer. This is what my mind does all day: I run back-of-the-envelope calculations to try to estimate order-of-magnitude impacts. I’ve been on high alarm about this disease since ~Jan 19 after reading clinical indicators in the first papers emerging from Wuhan. Nothing in the last 6 weeks has dampened my alarm in the slightest. To the contrary, we’re seeing abject refusal of many countries to adequately respond or prepare. Of course some of these estimates will be wrong, even substantially wrong. But I have no reason to think they’ll be orders-of-magnitude wrong. Even if your personal risk of death is very, very low, don’t mock decisions like canceling events or closing workplaces as undue “panic”. These measures are the bare minimum we should be doing to try to shift the peak – to slow the rise in cases so that healthcare systems are less overwhelmed. Each day that we can delay an extra case is a big win for the HC system.

And yes, you really should prepare to buckle down for a bit. All services and supply chains will be impacted. Why risk the stress of being ill-prepared? Worst case, I’m massively wrong and you now have a huge bag of rice and black beans to burn through over the next few months and enough Robitussin to trip out.

One more thought: you’ve probably seen multiple respected epidemiologists have estimated that 20-70% of world will be infected within the next year. If you use 6-day doubling rate I mentioned above, we land at ~2-6 billion infected by sometime in July of this year. Obviously I think the doubling time will start to slow once a sizeable fraction of the population has been infected, simply because of herd immunity and a smaller susceptible population. But take the scenarios above (full beds, no PPE, etc., at just 1% of the US population infected) and stretch them out over just a couple extra months. That timeline roughly fits with consensus end-game numbers from these highly esteemed epidemiologists. Again, we’re talking about discrepancies of mere days or weeks one direction or another, but not disagreements in the overall magnitude of the challenge. This is not some hypothetical, fear-mongering, worst-case scenario. This is reality, as far as anyone can tell with the current available data.

That’s all for now. Standard disclaimers apply: I’m a PhD biologist but not an epidemiologist. Thoughts my own. Yadda yadda. Stay safe out there.

  

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163. "my coworker warned me this morning that my officemate is sick"
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he was saying she was super sick, she seems to be playing it off pretty good if she is. there havent been any cases reported in my city so hopefully its not it.

  

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165. "Less worried now than 3/4 weeks ago. "
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shit is just normalized.

first it was "we all gon' die!"

now it's, "ok, a few of us miiiiiiiight die"

I'm fucked up about our lack of testing. Our ratio of death to confirmed cases is beyond a bad look. Ya know what Germany did? If you get sick then they go and test, ya mamma, ya kids, auntie, friends - anyone else you might have infected and it's doing a good job of controlling things.

also, the flu is a motherfucker, how is this shit just straight up normalized given the amount of people who die from it?

also, stop touching your face.

also, just be ready.

also, take off that damn surgeon mask, is it N95/p100? no? jesus.

at some point we're just going to have to reach decision where we just keep pushing to stay inside forever (which ain't good) or the virus spreads and then it's just, cold, flu and covid season. Yes, it's extremely bad for elderly, immunocompromised people and smoker, but we're ALL not going to die.

I'm worried about this economy more than getting sick.

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167. "Bruh, this ain't the flu. This is SARS Lite."
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome_coronavirus_2

  

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169. "Entire country of Italy under quarantine / lockdown"
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-italy-quarantine-lockdown-prime-minister-we-have-run-out-of-time/


Everyone should have *at least* two weeks of food, water, sanitary/cleaning products, medicine, etc. stored in you dwelling.

Things are gonna get real here in the US in a week or two.

  

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170. "CANCEL EVERYTHING! (the atlantic, swipe)"
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-cancel-everything/607675/

Cancel Everything

Social distancing is the only way to stop the coronavirus. We must start immediately.

6:30 AM ET
Yascha Mounk


We don’t yet know the full ramifications of the novel coronavirus. But three crucial facts have become clear in the first months of this extraordinary global event. And what they add up to is not an invocation to stay calm, as so many politicians around the globe are incessantly suggesting; it is, on the contrary, the case for changing our behavior in radical ways—right now.

The first fact is that, at least in the initial stages, documented cases of COVID-19 seem to increase in exponential fashion. On the 23rd of January, China’s Hubei province, which contains the city of Wuhan, had 444 confirmed COVID-19 cases. A week later, by the 30th of January, it had 4,903 cases. Another week later, by the 6th of February, it had 22,112.

The same story is now playing out in other countries around the world. Italy had 62 identified cases of COVID-19 on the 22nd of February. It had 888 cases by the 29th of February, and 4,636 by the 6th of March.

Because the United States has been extremely sluggish in testing patients for the coronavirus, the official tally of 604 likely represents a fraction of the real case load. But even if we take this number at face value, it suggests that we should prepare to have up to 10 times as many cases a week from today, and up to 100 times as many cases two weeks from today.

The second fact is that this disease is deadlier than the flu, to which the honestly ill-informed and the wantonly irresponsible insist on comparing it. Early guesstimates, made before data were widely available, suggested that the fatality rate for the coronavirus might wind up being around 1 percent. If that guess proves true, the coronavirus is 10 times more deadly than the flu.

But there is reason to fear the fatality rate could be much higher. According to the World Health Organization, the current case fatality rate—a common measure of what portion of confirmed patients die from a particular disease—stands at 3.4 percent. This figure could be an overstatement, because mild cases of the disease are less likely to be diagnosed. Or it could be an understatement, because many patients have already been diagnosed with the virus but have not yet recovered (and may still die).

Juliette Kayyem: The U.S. isn’t prepared for what’s about to happen

When the coronavirus first spread to South Korea, many observers pointed to the comparatively low death rates in the country to justify undue optimism. In countries with highly developed medical systems, they claimed, a smaller portion of patients would die. But while more than half of all diagnosed patients in China have now been cured, most South Korean patients are still in the throes of the disease. Of 7,478 confirmed cases, only 118 have recovered; the low death rate may yet rise.

Meanwhile, the news from Italy, another country with a highly developed medical system, has so far been shockingly bad. In the affluent region of Lombardy, for example, there have been 7,375 confirmed cases of the virus as of Sunday. Of these patients, 622 had recovered, 366 had died, and the majority were still sick. Even under the highly implausible assumption that all of the still-sick make a full recovery, this would suggest a case fatality rate of 5 percent—significantly higher, not lower, than in China.

The third fact is that so far only one measure has been effective against the coronavirus: extreme social distancing.

Before China canceled all public gatherings, asked most citizens to self-quarantine, and sealed off the most heavily affected region, the virus was spreading in exponential fashion. Once the government imposed social distancing, the number of new cases leveled off; now, at least according to official statistics, every day brings news of more existing patients who are healed than of patients who are newly infected.

A few other countries have taken energetic steps to increase social distancing before the epidemic reached devastating proportions. In Singapore, for example, the government quickly canceled public events and installed medical stations to measure the body temperature of passersby while private companies handed out free hand sanitizer. As a result, the number of cases has grown much more slowly than in nearby countries.

These three facts imply a simple conclusion. The coronavirus could spread with frightening rapidity, overburdening our health-care system and claiming lives, until we adopt serious forms of social distancing.

This suggests that anyone in a position of power or authority, instead of downplaying the dangers of the coronavirus, should ask people to stay away from public places, cancel big gatherings, and restrict most forms of nonessential travel.

Given that most forms of social distancing will be useless if sick people cannot get treated—or afford to stay away from work when they are sick—the federal government should also take some additional steps to improve public health. It should take on the costs of medical treatment for the coronavirus, grant paid sick leave to stricken workers, promise not to deport undocumented immigrants who seek medical help, and invest in a rapid expansion of ICU facilities.

The past days suggest that this administration is unlikely to do these things well or quickly (although the administration signaled on Monday that it will seek relief for hourly workers, among other measures). Hence, the responsibility for social distancing now falls on decision makers at every level of society.

Do you head a sports team? Play your games in front of an empty stadium.

Are you organizing a conference? Postpone it until the fall.

Do you run a business? Tell your employees to work from home.

Are you the principal of a school or the president of a university? Move classes online before your students get sick and infect their frail relatives.

Are you running a presidential campaign? Cancel all rallies right now.

All of these decisions have real costs. Shutting down public schools in New York City, for example, would deprive tens of thousands of kids of urgently needed school meals. But the job of institutions and authorities is to mitigate those costs insofar as humanly possible, not to use them as an excuse to put the public at risk of a deadly communicable disease.

Finally, the most important responsibility falls on each of us. It’s hard to change our own behavior while the administration and the leaders of other important institutions send the social cue that we should go on as normal. But we must change our behavior anyway. If you feel even a little sick, for the love of your neighbor and everyone’s grandpa, do not go to work.

When the influenza epidemic of 1918 infected a quarter of the U.S. population, killing tens of millions of people, seemingly small choices made the difference between life and death.

As the disease was spreading, Wilmer Krusen, Philadelphia’s health commissioner, allowed a huge parade to take place on September 28th; some 200,000 people marched. In the following days and weeks, the bodies piled up in the city’s morgues. By the end of the season, 12,000 residents had died.

In St. Louis, a public health commissioner named Max Starkloff decided to shut the city down. Ignoring the objections of influential businessmen, he closed the city’s schools, bars, cinemas, and sporting events. Thanks to his bold and unpopular actions, the per capita fatality rate in St. Louis was half that of Philadelphia. (In total roughly 1,700 people died from influenza in St Louis.)

In the coming days, thousands of people across the country will face the choice between becoming a Wilmer Krusen or a Max Starkloff.

In the moment, it will seem easier to follow Krusen’s example. For a few days, while none of your peers are taking the same steps, moving classes online or canceling campaign events will seem profoundly odd. People are going to get angry. You will be ridiculed as an extremist or an alarmist. But it is still the right thing to do.

We want to hear what you think about this article. Submit a letter to the editor or write to letters@theatlantic.com.

YASCHA MOUNK is a contributing writer at The Atlantic, an associate professor at Johns Hopkins University, a senior fellow at the German Marshall Fund, and a senior adviser at Protect Democracy. He is the author of The People vs. Democracy.






  

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171. "extreme and irrational response"
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Wash Your hands

Don't touch your face

Don't panic

Live your life intelligently


If you're that concerned, don't go to sporting events or concerts.


This is Out. Of. Control.


How did we become this figuratively feeble as a society

  

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172. "IT ISN'T. that dumb response is why Italy is in the shit its in"
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The entire country is on lockdown cuz 3 weeks ago, folks were saying the virus warnings were overblown and still going about their social lives.

now you got entire health systems collapsing, doctors and nurses getting sick, people with other chronic illness and ailments going without treatment and dying because beds and ventilators are reserved for Covid19 patients

the only thing we should all be doing is STAYING AT HOME.

no restaurants, bars, meetings, school etc

but people like you keep yapping.

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182. "but work is ok?"
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>no restaurants, bars, meetings, school etc

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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184. "If one can work from home. Otherwise, it's time for the .gov to bail us ..."
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All of us workers. The people that this whole world depends on. People that can't work from home need help.

  

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186. "how does that work?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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187. "the same way it worked for the banks"
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190. "THIS. "
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191. "How does it work for banks? They shut down?"
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I honestly dont know

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192. "you forgot about 2008 stimulus packages?"
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were the govt gave the banks money to bail them out after the housing crisis so the economy wouldn't collapse

  

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196. "Huh? My question was how does it work if no one goes to work?"
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So the govt cuts a check...where do i cash it??? Banks are closed right?

What do i need a check for anyway? Other than housing, i cant by shit anyway

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220. "You're being dense."
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He's talking about a stimulus package for people who SHOULD NOT BE WORKING, but HAVE TO because their work requires them to be in public.


I expect to make $20 -$40 an hour most nights (yes, the range is that broad) despite my base wage being $4.50. If I'm showing up to work - paying for Uber or riding the bus to get there - and no one comes in to drink or eat, my budget is fucked. I can't just cash in PTO. If you'd have told me six months ago to save up for a crisis that could potentially wash the first three months of good work in the calendar year I'd have planned for this, but with each event cancellation/precautionary measure, all I can do is get more SCARED, not more more relieved.


I also can't afford personal insurance because the deductibles are not in my favor as a smoker and someone who has never opened a line of credit due to student loan debt. Most service workers are in my position; neither us nor our customers know if we're carrying, and that's far from ideal.


If everyone needs to stay the fuck home then the government needs to find a way to support the people who can't. Steph Curry might be able to afford to play in an empty stadium but if I spend a full week in an empty restaurant I have to start pre-empting my landlord with questions about being a day or two late on rent while I let my power or water bills slide into overdue charges.


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235. "yeah bruh i get all of that. If you get a check from the gov't, other th..."
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rent/mortgage what are you buying?

Food? Medicine? no bc everything is shut down and no one is going to work.

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