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"Princes new lp: listen tonight"


  

          



at this link





www.live365.com/stations/180211


10 pm to 10 am

in rotation


anyone can listen. So now we all can hear it.




Terrence Trent Darby-WildCard Oct 2001

Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)Oct.

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Tomahawk:
Mike Keneally-Wooden Smoke Oct 2001

Wooten/Chambers-Just add Water Oct 23 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



Au80: the Gold Standard in Hip Hop and R&B.
10-12 PM CST

http://kanm.tamu.edu

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it dro

  

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Topic Outline
Subject Author Message Date ID
yesh!
Oct 21st 2001
1
RE: yesh!
Oct 21st 2001
2
      I'm going to figure out how to record on realplayer.
Oct 21st 2001
3
      i pray it sounds better than
Oct 21st 2001
5
           I like the cover
Oct 21st 2001
6
           RE: I like the cover
Oct 21st 2001
32
                no jokes
Oct 21st 2001
34
                     RE: no jokes
Oct 21st 2001
38
           DAMN!!!...That's cold!
Oct 21st 2001
8
           ok, ?uest...
Oct 29th 2001
86
UP
Oct 21st 2001
4
i like the cover too!
Oct 21st 2001
7
      ^ 5
Oct 21st 2001
33
Question...
Oct 21st 2001
9
d'oh
Oct 21st 2001
10
      OH damn Prince is takin on
Oct 21st 2001
13
           not "taking on"
Oct 29th 2001
81
Sounds pretty good...
Oct 21st 2001
11
ugggh...
Oct 21st 2001
12
      Prince and Rhodes
Oct 21st 2001
16
           "Silence the interloper Jef Lee
Oct 21st 2001
17
           RE: "Silence/
Oct 21st 2001
19
                RE: "Silence/
peoke7
Oct 22nd 2001
41
                     oh please
Oct 22nd 2001
47
           "1+1+1=3" is tight as hell.
Oct 21st 2001
25
the answer is: john blackwell
Oct 21st 2001
14
John Blackwell's got it.
Oct 29th 2001
82
SHITT!!!
Oct 21st 2001
15
RE: SHITT!!!
Oct 21st 2001
18
What had happened?
Oct 21st 2001
20
Nevermind.
Oct 21st 2001
21
      TRC, Best Prince Album
mx
Oct 21st 2001
22
"Everywhere" is gorgeous.
Oct 21st 2001
23
"Everywhere" sounds like...
Oct 29th 2001
79
Can I sing 2 u
Oct 21st 2001
24
Play Everlasting now
Oct 21st 2001
26
      That song is tight too.
Oct 21st 2001
27
      Bet Quest don't like it
mx
Oct 21st 2001
28
           I say 9
Oct 21st 2001
29
                clare's the man.
Oct 21st 2001
30
                The extreme humor side
Oct 21st 2001
31
                     mtv ain't ready for a p video...
Oct 21st 2001
35
                          If Prince released the documentary
Oct 21st 2001
36
                          RE: mtv ain't ready for a p video...
Otan
Oct 21st 2001
37
                               thats what im saying
Oct 22nd 2001
39
                               Otan...
Oct 22nd 2001
40
                               RE: Otan...
Oct 22nd 2001
44
                               Ok then... Doodoo wha?
peoke7
Oct 22nd 2001
43
                               otan.
Oct 22nd 2001
46
      Jeff...
peoke7
Oct 22nd 2001
42
           Its cool
Oct 22nd 2001
45
           This is that high...
Oct 22nd 2001
50
please don't eff with my emotions
Oct 22nd 2001
48
Once again.......
Oct 22nd 2001
49
Shock I couldnt mess wit u
Oct 22nd 2001
51
Well, hold on.
Oct 22nd 2001
52
      RE: Well, hold on.
Oct 23rd 2001
53
      RE: Well, hold on.
Otan
Oct 23rd 2001
55
      I dunno.
Oct 23rd 2001
65
      I said TOP 5
Oct 23rd 2001
57
      Hey Jeff...
peoke7
Oct 23rd 2001
58
           For me Top 5 hmm
Oct 23rd 2001
61
           I'll bite.
Oct 23rd 2001
66
                RE: I'll bite.
Oct 24th 2001
67
                     sott ain't shit compared to...
Oct 24th 2001
68
                     covering my ass... (pt 2)
Oct 24th 2001
69
                     Why SOTT is better than anything he's ever done period.
Oct 25th 2001
75
                     M thats what im saying
Oct 25th 2001
72
                     LOL!!!!!
Oct 25th 2001
73
      Exactly
Oct 23rd 2001
59
           RE: Exactly
peoke7
Oct 23rd 2001
60
                and I say Listen again
Oct 23rd 2001
62
                     Top Fizzive Man!!!
peoke7
Oct 23rd 2001
63
                     RE: and I say Listen again
Oct 23rd 2001
64
                          When Rave came out
Oct 24th 2001
70
                               RE: When Rave came out
Oct 25th 2001
71
                                    NO TGE,
Oct 25th 2001
74
Confused...
Oct 23rd 2001
54
RE: Confused...
Otan
Oct 23rd 2001
56
      the 80s is not a facade!
Oct 26th 2001
76
           Prince did corny stuff in 80s
Oct 26th 2001
77
She Loves Me For Me...
Oct 29th 2001
78
Idea/Theory:
Oct 29th 2001
80
Maybe some pieces but...
Oct 29th 2001
83
hmmm...trilogy?
Oct 29th 2001
84
Like Lovesexy? (Again)
Oct 29th 2001
88
Like Lovesexy?
Oct 29th 2001
87
grimaces
Oct 29th 2001
85
Everywhere.
Oct 29th 2001
89
      This album is more defined
Oct 29th 2001
90
      The dawn could be
Oct 29th 2001
91
      RE: Everywhere.
Oct 29th 2001
92

Afroteck
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1. "yesh!"
In response to Reply # 0


          

i have wanted to hear this for a loooooooong time. and I don't have $100 bucks.
________________________________________________________________________________
AIM: Aphroteck

7 was the mayor

In my cd player:
Jay-Z the Blueprint
Beastie Boys- Paul's Boutique
Tip- Kamaal the Abstract
Ben Harper- Burn to Shine
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jefleejohnson
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2. "RE: yesh!"
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thats what im talking about.

Hopefully he plays the whole damn thing.

and not skip around cuz its meant to be heard in its entirety.

I dont want to miss the hr mark so I can listen to it from the start and not get in the loop of it the middle.





Terrence Trent Darby-WildCard Oct 2001

Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)Oct.

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Tomahawk:
Mike Keneally-Wooden Smoke Oct 2001

Wooten/Chambers-Just add Water Oct 23 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



Au80: the Gold Standard in Hip Hop and R&B.
10-12 PM CST

http://kanm.tamu.edu

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it dro

  

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Afroteck
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3. "I'm going to figure out how to record on realplayer."
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cuz I'm a cheap bastard

  

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5. "i pray it sounds better than"
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the way the album cover looks.




ill shit quotes said to questlove.

"of course that motherfucker ain't going to war.....he can't fit the fucking helmet over his head"
-mos def on why i told ed gordon why i won't fight for my country.


Q: you two ever say more than hi?
T: oh, i asked him what time he needed the band back & I also asked him if we were going to dinner with the band after the wasted 9 hour rehearsal day
Q: those 3 questions? damn...d must be the consumate artist than. at least he socializes with us small folk.
T: he's a separatist. NO ONE likes him
T: it's crazy
Q: so when he walks into the room does it get silenced?
T: yup
T: think Chris Rock Bigger & Blacker. This is what happens on the radio when he comes in
T: ""He's 10 min away..
he's at the traffic light
hes backing in.....
make sure (cenosred) isn't in the walk way....
He's in the drive way
T: "He's coming thru....
I got shot by an officer ..
I'm hopping in...
I'm here...
I love uuuuuuuuu
Q: for real?
Q: make sure he dosn't see (censored)?
T: for real
T: oh yeah..."because he'd be hot" He didn't even speak. he has no meet & greets
Q: oh lawd...i heard he made (censored and censored)do the same shit....funny when y'all go to richmond make sure you know who is watchng him
Q: hahahahahahahahahahahahahah
T: he may cry
Q: lol!!!!!!!!! i got a new sig....
T: no (censored and censored) stood on the side of the stage intimidating him...he's precious you know
Q: hey....you heard denzel
Q: a wolf or a sheep?
T: oh, please sheep

my convo with T about life on the road with the big M.



MORE TO COME!

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

  

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Afroteck
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6. "I like the cover"
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it looks like something my cousin would do.


  

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Silky1
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32. "RE: I like the cover"
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>it looks like something my cousin
>would do.

Y'all got jokes. What cover were you guys looking at ?

Silk.
Peace



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Afroteck
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34. "no jokes"
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my cuz is an abtract artists.


  

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38. "RE: no jokes"
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>my cuz is an abtract artists.
>

Oh,okay. Disregard my post.

Silk.
Peace



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8. "DAMN!!!...That's cold!"
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October 30th: Invincible Release Date

October 30th: Rock My World Single (Remixes)

November 12th: HIStory Greatest Hits: Vol 1 (One CD)

November 12th: History Greatest Hits VOL. 1 (DVD) & Dangerous:The Short Films (DVD)


Michael Jackson will rule the world once again }> }> }> }>

In Heavy Rotation;

Mark Farina- Mushroom Jazz Vol.3
Tip- Kamal The Abstract
Angie Stone- Mahogany Soul
Coleman Hawkins- Sirius
Maxwell- Embrya
Marvin Gaye- Let's Get It On Reissue
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86. "ok, ?uest..."
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it's sure no voodoo album cover...
or mama's gun album cover...
or dice raw album cover...

  

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Semicolon
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4. "UP"
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FOR LATER AND FOR PUNCTUATION

  

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7. "i like the cover too!"
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nice to see an actual illustration rather than just an artist's own face.

  

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33. "^ 5"
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>nice to see an actual illustration
>rather than just an artist's
>own face.

That's what I'm saying. Better than alot of covers I've seen lately.

Silk.
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lightyeargroover
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9. "Question..."
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10pm who's time?

  

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10. "d'oh"
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nevermind...

  

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jefleejohnson
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13. "OH damn Prince is takin on"
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D'angelo I told you he reads Prince.org and shit he is playing the rhodes.

Count how many times Prince has played lead on the rhodes...

Not many.

D'angelo and Quest are getting some Voodoo medicine with

"Muse 2 the Pharoah"

this song is tight. I knew Prince could do music like this.


The way this album is sequenced is weird.

I told yall he wanted to be a cult leader ...


This album is way better than Rave and alot cult Prince fans are gonna dig this release.


I see how The Work fits into this album.

So quest what do you think of the album?






Terrence Trent Darby-WildCard Oct 2001

Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)Oct.

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Tomahawk:
Mike Keneally-Wooden Smoke Oct 2001

Wooten/Chambers-Just add Water Oct 23 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



Au80: the Gold Standard in Hip Hop and R&B.
10-12 PM CST

http://kanm.tamu.edu

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it dro

  

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81. "not "taking on""
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the rhodes fits musically here, and is very prevalent in so much neo-soul stuff...i don't think Prince is takin' on D'Angelo but rather is once again REACTING to pop/r&b current trends...

he's done this alot since '93, and although The Rainbow Children is soooooo different, incredible, and unique, remember that the man released "judas kiss" just last month...

the first half of judas kiss featured destiny's child-style drums, 'weakest link' references, and lots of crap we've seen from him over the past few years...

and judas kiss is probably newer than all of TRC...

I love TRC.

but remember, after lovesexy came batman and graffiti bridge...

  

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11. "Sounds pretty good..."
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The messages are pretty heavy, though...

--
Jesse Thorn / Host
The Sound of Young America
Thursdays 8-9 AM KZSC 88.1 Santa Cruz
http://www.splangy.com

"This album is by far the greatest piece of writing, arranging, producing, and sequencing genius I've ever encountered. Anyone who has heard the first two Swamp Dogg albums will possibly say impossible, but after listening to this one will make the cross-over to incredible. The only album that may possibly compare with this one is the one that I'm contemplating doing the late future. Everything that is neccessary to make an album I have; Ego, talent, originality, humor, and I am dynamic, articulate, defiant, altruistic, considerate, warm, wonderful, & humble... I have also been a Grammy nominee for the past two years. I'm also a Cancer (July 12) and twenty nine years in the world. What you've just read is my trip, and if you can't tolerate it, that's your trip."
-- Swamp Dogg, from the liner notes to his album, "Cuffed, Collared, & Tagged"

-
Bullseye with Jesse Thorn
A public radio show about things that are awesome.
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12. "ugggh..."
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what the fuck did he do? just slow the tape down? he lose his effects machine?

Mister Narrator... TALK FASTER!

--me--

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jefleejohnson
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16. "Prince and Rhodes"
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This is the most rhodes Prince has ever played on an album and you know thats right...

Very impressive with band arrangements see he should have done
this kind of release after Gold Experience but im not the musical genius he is so I shall hold judgement of what records he should have released.

1 plus 1 plus 1 is 3 is so funky

Prince brought back some analog synths and that funky rhythm guitar and Camille again.

I think this is gonna be a crowd favorite as said before.


I will say one thing not in its favor this slowed down quaylude Bob George changes the momentum of the album. And also alot of people wont play this in their store because its distracting.
He has about 8 minutes of this voice I bet on this album.



I wonder who this song is aimed at.

I think Prince is ultra paranoid.
This is Princes most paranoid conspiracy theory album to date


I like this guitar section on Deconstruction.


Wedding Feast? lol Prince is a madhatter.
Opera ... monty python Prince.

this song after it ... This is the "ballad single" for R&B radio.

I think this song is directed at mayte.


Terrence Trent Darby-WildCard Oct 2001

Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)Oct.

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Tomahawk:
Mike Keneally-Wooden Smoke Oct 2001

Wooten/Chambers-Just add Water Oct 23 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



Au80: the Gold Standard in Hip Hop and R&B.
10-12 PM CST

http://kanm.tamu.edu

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it dro

  

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lightyeargroover
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17. ""Silence the interloper Jef Lee"
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all we must see and hear is our love for our cult leader Prince. Let us worship the little one on his purple throne."-done in my monotone zombie voice.

From what I can hear through the "skippin'" the whole "cult idea" seems to be exaggerated. And they call me a conspiracy theorist? Shame on you Jef.

I'm mad though, stupid bandwidth b.s...got a 56K modem registerin' at 28.8...that's a damn crime right there.

They out to silence my voice and prevent me from hearin' the Truth...what truth? Prince's truth. hahaha. =P


  

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19. "RE: "Silence/"
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Im telling you man if he took out the bobgeorge vocals they would play this in music stores. And its not a conspiracy Prince wants to lead a cult. This is what he was leading back to what he wanted people to take his beliefs and to silence different views. Read his interviews man... if you said something different on GOD he would say you are wrong.

But back to the music....

everything about this album he made for the hardcore fan... he had you in mind. He read the reviews for "Voodoo" and this is what got him on this path.



I mean the Last song he ends the album right.

This breakdown is too ill on "Last December"


Anyways Prince does it right on the music tip...


Prince if you read my posts on AMP or here I gotta say you did it man you came back albumwise as a innovator and not a xeroxin off somebody trying to be down with mainstream. He should be proud of this album.
And Questlove should rate it high.






Terrence Trent Darby-WildCard Oct 2001

Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)Oct.

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Tomahawk:
Mike Keneally-Wooden Smoke Oct 2001

Wooten/Chambers-Just add Water Oct 23 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



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41. "RE: "Silence/"
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for the record this isn't a comback... we true Prince fans always knew he had it... always had it... and always will...
it's the fairweather fans that pull him down.... (Yawn...)...

  

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47. "oh please"
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i love prince
i always have
but 'everyday is a winding road', for example?
BARF!

i REALLY want to see him come back with material that isn't beneath his incredible talent. and unfortunately, most of his recent 'officially' released ish has been sub-par; i really can't see how you can deny that.


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25. ""1+1+1=3" is tight as hell."
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My God.



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14. "the answer is: john blackwell"
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the question is: what is the best thing to happen to prince since Susannah Melvoin?

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82. "John Blackwell's got it."
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i was skeptical that i would ever really dig john blackwell's playing. i knew i liked his snare drum sound, but until this album, he just sounded like another slick, r&b/funk drummer.

but he's burnin' hot on The Rainbow Children, and yeah, hiring John may be the best direction choice Prince has taken for a looooooooooooong while...

  

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15. "SHITT!!!"
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I'm loving what I am hearing so far. I think I will actually be purchasing a prince CD. I havent done that since 1995, now that is serious stuff

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18. "RE: SHITT!!!"
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NPG computer Steven Hawkins female version voice.

"Family Name" is crazy.

This is Princes most controversial album of all time. MOST controversial of all time.


I can see why people wrote this off but so far this album is getting a eight point 5 out of ten the quaylude Bob George voice....

This is Princes most funkadelicesque/Sly song of recent.

Prince got the right background vocalists too.

Prince really jams out the funk on this.

This is the album that people were saying "Prince you cant play anymore" And he answered you with this...

The guitar solo on this is so raw .....


This is proof Prince buried his genius with Kirky J.

And the genius comes out again.


that dirty bass line ?

Now I wonder what he will do live now will it be the hits?

I dig the sound bites.. thruit too

John BlackWell goddamn ....


this is Princes answer to music magazines "you cant funk"

he brought out the horns,the bass,the guitars,the keys,the flute, and the background vocalists.

YOU cant count him out....

The everlasting now... .damn....
and the bridge....those horns that wah wah guitar...



I like every song ive heard off this album do you know how long that has been?

When all the musicians hear this album they are gonna freak the heck out.

on a first listen honestly I have to give this album a HIGH mark.

yo this breakdown on Everlasting now is KILLING me.

release stuff like this on the club and I might join.

Now he is in Santana mode...

Prince you did it you made an album people said you never could do. I knew it was coming just didnt know when.




Terrence Trent Darby-WildCard Oct 2001

Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)Oct.

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Tomahawk:
Mike Keneally-Wooden Smoke Oct 2001

Wooten/Chambers-Just add Water Oct 23 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



Au80: the Gold Standard in Hip Hop and R&B.
10-12 PM CST

http://kanm.tamu.edu

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20. "What had happened?"
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I thought it was supposed to be playing from 10pm to 10am?

It's not on now.

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21. "Nevermind."
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It just started again.

Jef...you're right. That Bob George voice has got to go. Just like the annoying narrator from The Gold Experience.

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22. "TRC, Best Prince Album"
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This album is the shit.

I like the Bob George voice.

The cover art is the shit.

Tired of seeing faces and civil right photos on albums.

I like it all.

rumor has it there is a new album coming out 8 months from now.



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23. ""Everywhere" is gorgeous."
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Wow.

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79. ""Everywhere" sounds like..."
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that fusion/new age group Full Circle
or maybe Chick Corea's Return To Forever.

good song. a standout for me.

  

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24. "Can I sing 2 u"
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while u bring urself 2 joy

???

Thank goodness Prince is still a freak.

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26. "Play Everlasting now"
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To D'angelo and QUestlove and Saul Williams face

and watch them freak....


This breakdown is so UNREAL......


DIG how he changes it...

and dig the background vocals

you know this is funky but I wish he would play like he used to old scragly head (smack) "

thats why Im gonna buy this album.

Prince the bandleader on record has come back....




Quest seriously if you dont review this album somethin is wrong with you man.

I wasnt sure on how it sounded from the reaction but damn...


On the 1....SIKE"

that was a big up yours to the critics this whole track about how he couldnt "bring da funk in innovative ways" It is about time he comes out and kills the people who said he couldnt bring something new.



I think Sonny T and Michael B are happy the live band prince is back.

This does really have the best sequencing of a Prince album in a long long time.


I hope it does sell more than RAVE... cuz he deserves it.



after a second listen I will give this a nine out of ten.

all the musician fans of Prince will come back into the fold as said before.


Innovative daring edgy ...

I think I see alot people covering tracks in the future from this

Everlasting Now
Last December
Muse 2 Pharoah

Theres just alot of shit people will get into to cover in the future.



Terrence Trent Darby-WildCard Oct 2001

Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)Oct.

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Tomahawk:
Mike Keneally-Wooden Smoke Oct 2001

Wooten/Chambers-Just add Water Oct 23 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



Au80: the Gold Standard in Hip Hop and R&B.
10-12 PM CST

http://kanm.tamu.edu

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27. "That song is tight too."
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"Muse 2 the Pharoah"
"The Work, pt. 1"
"Everywhere"
"Mellow"
"1+1+1=3"
"Family Name"
"The Everlasting Now"
"Last December"

all kick ass.

Right now I like this record even better than The Gold Experience.

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28. "Bet Quest don't like it"
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Something telling me Quest don't like it

jefflee/ 10, not 9

wedding feast
than she loves 4 me

damn he slapped Mayte in the face

better yet he slapped everybody in the face, musically and lyrically






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29. "I say 9"
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and thats pretty damn good for Prince.

I give it a 9 because of the voice thru the record they could have put another song and they could have put that in the liner note text heck it will be in there. I get the idea "I like slowing down my voice! "

I guess what I can say to emphasize the points is Prince deserves his props he came back to the LIVE Band ensemble innovative record.

I will go with better sounding than The gold Experience. Gold had "We march" after all.


Best album? Best sequenced surely...
Best overall work? Thats a matter of views .
But after listening to it 2 times I dont have any complaints on the music.

I love the horn arrangements,I like the touches of Rhodes,I love the drums and percussion,I love the guitars,I love the different bass sounds and the keyboards and the background vocalists.

ALTHOUGH...one thing was missing

Do you know what?

CLare Fischer no string arrangements

He better hurry up and work with Clare again he is a old timer.
Id like to see a record with all Fischer Strings someday.


but myx just becuz I see it as a 9 now doesnt mean I will see it as a 10 and if it is listening back to it again on a proper stereo system then I will say so.

I like it better than Rave and NPS.

It is a special record and I hope Prince fans come back who were on the art/musician side who talk about his past works and marvel at this one and give it its merits.







Terrence Trent Darby-WildCard Oct 2001

Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)Oct.

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Tomahawk:
Mike Keneally-Wooden Smoke Oct 2001

Wooten/Chambers-Just add Water Oct 23 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



Au80: the Gold Standard in Hip Hop and R&B.
10-12 PM CST

http://kanm.tamu.edu

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it dro

  

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30. "clare's the man."
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agreed.

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31. "The extreme humor side"
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Guess who is let down now?

The side of Prince fans who like Emancipation/NPS/RAVE!

Oh man he cant win.

Ive heard comments like "this is too jazzy" hahaha

damn man ever since he ejected Kirk out the window with his plastic drums tracks sound a WHOOOOOLE different sound with Blackwell.

I heard that people have commented "Prince Hoochies" lets say that they dont like it because its "too weird"

The big plus about this record is it might exterminate alot people who want him to follow trends and do the hip hop r &B template



But predict how it will sell....

Will this outsell Rave?>

Will Redline have a hit record?

When the interviews starthitting it is gonna be interested what Prince says expectation wise.

Personally I feel with this one he deserves sales as high as Diamonds and pearls but if he isnt playing any award shows or a music video or doing promotion with the press.

How can it get to that level?

I do hope the reviewers who said he couldnt bring it around admit he did bring it around.

But that wouldnt be like a critic for a magazine would it?

Anyways extreme humor is when people dog this record who want "the old prince" of late 90s
IM not kidding

This is Princes record I will be glad to tell people to get Rainbow Children. And I didnt say that about Rave Emancipation (I said to get that used) and NPS..

But this one is the turn around this is the one where Prince stomped on his protools and npgdrumloop bank and put something out Art type can go running to. Well most of them.

And to be honest this record didnt have that sterile polish sound either that Emancipation,NPS,RAVE had.

It was mixed differently and it has dirty bass and funked up vibrant guitars and amazing drums.


I think this is proof Prince reads message boards because Prince fans havesaid for "6 years" ever since Gold Experience that they wanted the live sound back but something Experimental and Prince finally found a band unit that he wanted to record.



Anyways I have always believed Prince would stop trying to follow trends and blast a path forth again in a experimental return I just didnt know when.

Remember we were misled many times "The DAWN" album "ROADGARDEN" I think the most obvious step would to do a live box set maybe of all the tour shows?


Man he owes the musicclub new files next month.

After an album like this I dont know what he will do next.










Terrence Trent Darby-WildCard Oct 2001

Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)Oct.

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Tomahawk:
Mike Keneally-Wooden Smoke Oct 2001

Wooten/Chambers-Just add Water Oct 23 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



Au80: the Gold Standard in Hip Hop and R&B.
10-12 PM CST

http://kanm.tamu.edu

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it dro

  

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35. "mtv ain't ready for a p video..."
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...although they sure enjoyed playing "the sacrifice of victor" minute concert video back in 1993 unannounced a few times (as did b.e.t. & muchmusic.)

>The side of Prince fans who like Emancipation/NPS/RAVE!

there were a few good songs off of those albums, just incomplete... it's the shit that surrounded it that brought the rest of it down.

>Ive heard comments like "this is too jazzy" hahaha

those people can seriously fuck off.

>I heard that people have commented "Prince Hoochies" lets say that they dont like it because its "too weird"

those too.

>The big plus about this record is it might exterminate alot
>people who want him to follow trends and do the hip hop r &B template

thank god. that's what's been wrong with his music for too long.

>But predict how it will sell....

it'll do "emancipation" numbers. it might go gold, depending on how many television/award shows he goes on. unless he does a video that is directed by someone else, and doesn't pick something that won't sell, he won't be played on mtv either. not that that's a bad thing. he's already made money off of the npgmc fools, and by his fanbase that buys every album he puts out.

>Will this outsell Rave?>

easily... especially when the reviews come out. the question is how many people will give him a chance? there have been others recently who have been given a 2nd chance by the music buying public. steely dan, bonnie raitt, and santana to name a few... he just needs to put aside his conflict with wbr and move on. otherwise he just looks like a whiner to his fans, or worse still a michael jackson-like flake/freak to the public, rather than the musical genius he deserves to be recognized as.

>Will Redline have a hit record?

depends.

>When the interviews start hitting it is gonna be interested what Prince says expectation wise.

i wish he'd be quiet.

>I do hope the reviewers who said he couldnt bring it around admit he did bring it around.

i don't think folks have a problem with admitting they were wrong.

>But that wouldnt be like a critic for a magazine would it?

sure it would.
i could totally see someone like kurt loder saying that he's back. i mean, those clips from "props n pounds" were not from the last 10 years, let's get real.

>Anyways extreme humor is when people dog this record who want "the old prince" of late 90s IM not kidding

those people need to be shot.

>And to be honest this record didnt have that sterile polish sound either that Emancipation,NPS,RAVE had.

true... though as i said before, there is some stuff on EMAN that is great, and "wasted kisses" isn't bad...

>It was mixed differently and it has dirty bass and funked up vibrant guitars and amazing drums.

it's about time.

>I think this is proof Prince reads message boards because Prince fans have said for "6 years"
>ever since Gold Experience that they wanted the live sound back but something Experimental and
>Prince finally found a band unit that he wanted to record.

let's hope so. let's also hope that they stay together for the full 5 years his bands usually stay together. that way we can get perhaps 5 good albums out of him before he gets bored and tries to top whatever puffy/timbaland/the neptunes are doing in 2007. yeah, maybe they won't be around. but if they are, or whoever is at that time, prince should never have to do that. you don't see other artists doing that. stevie never did that. michael's never done that. meshell's never done that. who knows why prince feels the need to... it's why his music has been so inconsistant over the last 12 years.


>Anyways I have always believed Prince would stop trying to follow
>trends and blast a path forth again in a experimental return I just
>didnt know when.

so have i. it's not easy being a fan of his. from fucking over his fans, to the neverending whining about wbr, it's nice to finally have something to smile about (other than seeing the prices that pieces of my prince collection are selling for on ebay by those that have given up on him...)

>Remember we were misled many times "The DAWN" album "ROADGARDEN"

yeah, i never once bought into those lies.

>I think the most obvious step would to do a live box set maybe of all the tour shows?

he should seriously talk to the pearl jam about this. (or follow what columbia has done with miles' work.)

>Man he owes the musicclub new files next month.

he does, but he'll never follow through with his good shit. he's stupid, but not that stupid.

>After an album like this I dont know what he will do next.

he'll go on a "medley/speech" tour, because he doesn't have anyone around him to help him make better decisions. he can't play "rainbow children" at arenas.

people want full versions of his hit songs. it's annoying. if he was smart, he'd go back to before 1980 and do a club tour similar to the one he did when people were first getting into him. let people know up front that they aren't going to hear purple rain or 1999. if they want to see him in the 300 seat kimballs east jazz club in san francisco, they not only have to bring their ticket, but they have to bring a copy of their cd "rainbow children" to the concert, so they know what to expect...
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36. "If Prince released the documentary"
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Imagine the kind of promotion it would get if Kevin Smith and prince did press junkets for it.

Imagine if they put the documentary on DVD
Imagine all the features....


THAT would be a good idea.


But I havent heard a peep about it.




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Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

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Otan

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37. "RE: mtv ain't ready for a p video..."
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I just burned a copy of the new album. Joint is made tight. Prince gonna have cats runnin to the studio to try and create sumthin fonky.

The drums, keys, bass, horns and guitar on this joint is ill.

  

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39. "thats what im saying"
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THIS is a band record. This is a record where you can listen

to the horn arrangements,the drums,the guitars,the bass,the keyboards,the background vocals,the percussion,

He has taken a band vacation for a while on record he took a one with "Gold Experience"

Now he got on the "Rainbow Chile"Ocean Liner.....
and he is taking another "live trip"


I mean have you ever heard as much horns on thisrecord as any Prince album?

Gold Experience didnt have any.
Sign o the times had a few.
Madhouse.. had some
Love sexy had a lil bit.
Symbol album had some


I might even say this is Princes best band record ever.


BUT.... I will listen to it on my stereo when it comes out unfiltered.



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Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)Oct.

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Tomahawk:
Mike Keneally-Wooden Smoke Oct 2001

Wooten/Chambers-Just add Water Oct 23 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



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40. "Otan..."
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So many rainbow children names are gonna pop up online now.


I read that in Beyond the Pale Horse what is Prince trying to say with Rainbow Children


Satan is everywhere?

what if this is all an act and he is pulling a Kaufman I dont know with Prince. he is like the popstar you can never tell if he is serious anymore.

Listen to "wedding feast"

now what am I supposed to think? Thats humorous what about the rest of the whole lp?

Prince is supernatural psychological.

He has that power....

Otan haha ...








Terrence Trent Darby-WildCard Oct 2001

Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)Oct.

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Tomahawk:
Mike Keneally-Wooden Smoke Oct 2001

Wooten/Chambers-Just add Water Oct 23 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



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44. "RE: Otan..."
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>what if this is all an act and he is pulling a Kaufman I dont >know with Prince. he is like the popstar you can never tell if >he is serious anymore.

i've thought this many times (andy kaufman analogy in particular). peeps love him, hate him...there aren't many inbetweens. his actions are all over the place. and just when people think he is old news, he suprises the hell out of everyone. i don't know, it will be interesting to see what happens over the course of the next year and a half or so.

"Bullshit MIS-TER HAN MAN!!!"

Man, you come right out of a comic book! - Williams in 'Enter The Dragon'

"She be sportin the hell outta beautiful" - Prince

"You gotta be a special kind of cheap to balk at a $5 bootleg" - AnaStezia

"Didn't I tell yo' punk ass boy he couldn't have no goddamn milk&cooookies?" - Bernie Mac


"Open up and LET...ME...AN!!" - Sly Stone in 'Crazay', by Jesse Johnson

"Racism doesn't excuse weakness -- it demands strength" - Leonard Pitts, Jr.


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Jef Lee Johnson - "Hype Factory"

Santana - "The Best Instrumentals"

Prince - "Yellow"

Sons Of Almighty - "The Great Tribulation"

Albita - "Son"

Massive Attack - "Mezzanine"

Res - "How I Do"

Otis Redding - "Very Best of Otis Redding"






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peoke7

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43. "Ok then... Doodoo wha?"
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Ok... all those cats laughing cause they didn't think PRince could match a subpar album like Voodoo...ha... okayplayer... giving you true arrogance and overratted bullshit since... they entered the scene?

  

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46. "otan."
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rofl. nice nick.
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42. "Jeff..."
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You gave it a 9 out of a 10? I have got to hear it...

  

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45. "Its cool"
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Definitely a big stepup for P, but nothing blew me away. I'll purchase, though

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50. "This is that high..."
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the arrangements show major thought and the playing is on that supernatural emotional level.

Gold Experience was like the opposite of this.

Gold Experience was clean and polished. It was dope but it was restrained alot places because you know Prince wasnt in that "Free mood" You know what I mean? When you listen to Shhh the guitar solo is restrained in sound its compressed and its low. Its a good record but its clinical I guess trying to play in the "WB Matrix" but still being funky at the same time.

But Princes guitar on this is in TECHNICOLOR and this is not restrained. This is "Somebody let the beast out of the cage and he is loose taking casualties with devastating carnage."

Whoever is Princes guitar tech deserves a medal.

This is rawer than TGE.

The bass is dirty.
the guitars are all mixed top notch you got crystal clear rhythm,distorted searing lead,crunched the eff up riffs in places,wah wah,
the background vocals are defined since the times with Rosie Gaines.
The drummer is a monster.
the keyboards. Prince plays such nice rhodes on this and analog synths and piano
This album is Prince taking his one eyed bass/habibi and swingin at other bands.

This is his response to Beck to say "Why doesnt he kick ass anymore" Will anyone say anything after this release? Only the jealous artists who didnt have this kind of inspiration and this friggin band.

The horn arrangement on Everlasting now will kill you. This is some Sly and the fam stone/Hornheads shit.

and how they switch it up and able to follow the zig zag funk melody. and when he screams? tooo sick And the band takes off again? This is contender for Princes top 5 albums. Yes I am ready to say rhat now when I think back on the album catalog.





There are so many hilites of this record I was worried it would be all "The work" type naterial. Not that I didnt like the Work it was just I didnt want a similar veined record. Wrong so wrong.

He did it he made one of the most innovative creative brilliant records of the year.

As I said Princes return to the "BAND sound" and it gets no crazier than this for Prince.


Disregard what people said as unfocused. THEY are on crack you couldnt ask for a better sequencing for Prince record. MY GOD...how it starts and the middle track? and the funny interlude? And She loves me 4 me? DAMN Someone has their thinking npg beanie on again.

If ypu played this nonstop you will be shocked how it unfolds.

And how does Prince keep his voice still in unbelievable shape?

It must be because he isnt talking that much.

Anyways this is no way a disappointment this is a triumph for Prince in every sense of the word.

I thought this record was gonna be some Rave Part II.

But that emancipation sterile mix copaseptic sound of Prince has vanished. And is it Rave? Is it NPS? Is it any of that?

but no... Prince came storming thru the gate and just didnt tear the gate down he blew the gate up with his c-4 surreal funk.

and the way they mixed the crowd sounds on particular songs ...somebody has been listening to their mixes.

and the last song? Prince was thinking hard when he made this album.

If this only proves one thing Prince is one of the greatest innovative genius bandleaders in music history and right now he still is at TOP of his game in the channeling funky sounds dept.
and if you told me 3 years ago Prince would have a band album that would shock the hell out of me. Id say you were eating purple paint chips. Id say "Yea right Kirky is still gonna be with him and they are gonna sample record scratch noises and npg soundbank loops. Prince will make a amazing band record in a long while like 10 years" 6 years later after TGE I was off by 4 years

Saul Williams just got his dose..for those voodoo liner notes.

YOU have been silenced son. Dont show your face at the park unless you want to write up the Rainbow Children liner notes and give it props.

Send this record to Saul Williams. Watch his face....

When you listen to this you can almost see Prince signaling the band and thinking "Boy I am gonna get those people who said I couldnt make funky shit anymore. Rolling Stone you gonna eat your words. "

those r^B plastic drum loops are gone Drummer fans of Prince now have a new idol to look up to "John Blackwell"

I heard people were leaving after the first listen to this at the park at the listening party.

Are they crazy?? This is what you ASKED for. You got yout dream artsy concept record.


People got Prince energized by saying "Why you wanna do jiggy hip hop crossover tracks? Why arent you bringin the funk"

reccomend this to your friends who are "Art" type and say "Oh prince he doesnt do anything challenging anymore he just wants to fit in with the trends." Give them a copy of it.

1 plus 1 plus 1=3 is going to be the live jam anthem when he takes this on tour.


November 20th you know what to run to the stores to get.






Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)out now!

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Jaguar-Nov 2001??

Prince-Rainbow Children Nov 2001

Dungeon Fam-Nov 2001

Jill Scott live album-Nov 2001

Wu tang-Dec 2001

Ras Kass-2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



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48. "please don't eff with my emotions"
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it really is good?
he really has left the wack-ass r&b ish behind?
it really is FUNKY?
he plays the guitar like he should?
when is this being released?



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49. "Once again......."
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>when is this being released?
>

It is being released on November 20th.(you can pre-order at Amazon.com or cdnow).

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51. "Shock I couldnt mess wit u"
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Prince made a record for that "section" of his fans.


I tell you when I was listening a few times I thought it was a dream and I was asleep.

I thought "wait let me listen to this again." Again I listened... and I thought to myself "Prince is going to so talk about this record when he does interviews about the band about the spirit it conveys. He is gonna bounce around and be like "LOOK WHAT I MADE ha..ha.. ha...Check out the band Check out the band! Who is that on drums? WHO? Why thats my drummer MY DRUMMER suckas I am the man! "

It is weird,funky,soulful,rockin,jazzy,r n b etc

I will say this this is the most guitar he has ever played on studio album
This is the most rhodes Prince has ever played on any studio album.
This is Princes most improvisational ensemble album
This album probably is one of the most horn filled record.


and this album is without a doubt made for those people on the message boards in 96-2001 "When is the live band sound gonna come back like with NPG in 92/95."

Heres your answer.

Tell the hardcore fans to come back and support TRC.



Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)out now!

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Jaguar-Nov 2001??

Prince-Rainbow Children Nov 2001

Dungeon Fam-Nov 2001

Jill Scott live album-Nov 2001

Wu tang-Dec 2001

Ras Kass-2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



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52. "Well, hold on."
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Yes, it's good. But I'm not as in love w/it as Jeflee.

It's not quite on par w/the 80s material...but it's better than most of what he put out in the 90s. As a whole TRC tops TGE, but the good songs on TGE are better than the good songs on here. Still, it's clear Prince is on the right track again.

There's much more of a live band sound on this one than any other Prince album...even more so than Dream Factory. Yes, the guitar is back and the Funk is back. "1+1+1=3" even brings us the return of Camille and the return of that funky rhythm guitar ala "Erotic City" and the extended version of "Hello". Kirky J is out and John Blackwell is in...THANK GOD. John tears it up on the drums. The album is full of rhodes piano, as Jef said...which is a nice touch. He's never used that instrument extensively across 1 album, which gives this record some individuality in relation to the rest of his catalog.

The only thing missing is the accessibility. This is a good Prince album for Prince fans. It's not going to win over any newbies, and I don't think it was made w/that goal in mind.

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53. "RE: Well, hold on."
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you are all prince fans already.

Is this daring and different enough for non-prince fans to appreciate it in the same way that you can say, listen to voodoo and know that this is like a complete inversion of virtually everything else out there?

I want to hear this badly.

  

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Otan

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55. "RE: Well, hold on."
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It's funkier than ?uestlove's fruit o the looms after a 4 hour concert in Miami!

  

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65. "I dunno."
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Maybe....

Prince is funny. Most of the subject matter of his albums is pretty insular. Like, the records have little to do w/the world outside of P's head. This album is even MORE insular and trapped in Prince's psyche than most.

For that reason it might not grab someone who's not already familiar w/his style. It's not very accessible. There are NO singles on the album at all.

I wouldn't introduce Prince to a newbie w/this record, that's for sure.

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57. "I said TOP 5"
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and im sticking to it. It is his most powerful Live band statement you can tell.

But as far as 80s material? Yes it is up there with it.

I can tell from listening 2 times if I am going to play it all the way thru. Didnt do that with NPS,Emancipation or Rave or Even Crystal ball.

Im sticking to Top 5



Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)out now!

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Jaguar-Nov 2001??

Prince-Rainbow Children Nov 2001

Dungeon Fam-Nov 2001

Jill Scott live album-Nov 2001

Wu tang-Dec 2001

Ras Kass-2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



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10-12 PM CST

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Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it dro

  

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peoke7

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58. "Hey Jeff..."
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Since there probably isn't anyone else reading this besides us...
Real quick... Top 5 Prince albums... c'mon dun... you can do it... One.

  

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61. "For me Top 5 hmm"
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I will group them by decades

80s
1999
Purple Rain
Parade
Sign O the Times
Lovesexy

90s:
Symbol album
TGE
The Truth
Exodus
parts of Emancipation

2000s:
TRC

Ranking of 5 best
this is tough


Sign O the Times
1999
Parade
TGE
TRC

I dunno how to pick 5 from 20 years and not leave a one or two out of my favorites
I like Around the World in a day and I like Purple Rain and I like the Symbol album but...like I said putting it in 5 is tough but if we judge by ERA's then you have to be deaf not to realize TRC is a new innovative ERA its the spark so to speak of this era of Prince you can clearly hear it and its a complete different sound from the NPG of 96/mid 2001 Sidenote:Why I left out Dirty Mind is it never affected me it sounded like Prince was listening to Rick James and wanted to get his new wave punk sound. It has some great songs on it though.



takes out broken record and replays it RRRRraaaaaaiiiiinnnboow)

But as I said this is what fans asked for and he gave it to them a artistic experimental live band sounding concept record with all the hiphoptrends taken out of it. HE as in Prince Rogers Nelson did his part this year. He delivered a fine album.



TRC is a new era of Prince and its just the GENESIS of this era.
The question on everyones mind is "Where does he go now"

My answer:Clare Fischer orchestrations and Prince w/ piano ......



But I think the 80s was the best is a facade of nostalgia.

TGE is as great as anything from the 80s. TGE had some of greatest works on that album alone. If he released TGE he would still be "breakthru artist"
His shows?Give me a fuckin break 94/95 was the zenith of Prince shows.
Symbol album was mindblowing followip to Diamonds and Pearls.
Exodus was just the best concept record Prince did of the 90s BARNONE.
The Truth was Princes acoustic side and it was a good record to release with CB.



The truth is I like just as much as I did stuff Prince did in the 80s up to the Mid 90s
and I still think that. And will think that to the day I die.

Grafitti Bridge had too many guests true...
And Tevin...
Diamonds and Pearls had Tony M
Symbol album had Tony M... but its bearable.
But Prince made some of his best songs in the 90-95 to me

Count the days
Still WOuld Stand all time
Morning Papers
And God Created Woman
7
EYe hate u
Shh
Dolphin
Endorphin Machine
Shy
The Continental
Love 2 the 90s
Sexy MF
Damn U
Billy Jack Bitch
Exodus
Hallucination Rain
The Question of u
THieves in the Temple
Cant stop this feelin
Come
Papa
Elephants and Flowers
Insatiable
Money dont matter
Willing and able
Jugghead (PSSSYCHE!)






He made great songs like Same December,Dig u better dead,Dinner with delores but when Emancipation came the live band was gone and he just overdid it with the npgdrum loops. He still had great songs on it though but 3 discs of those drum loops?zzzzz and then NPS? It is what drove the fans of NPG away.

TRC is a landmark record because of these factors.

The ensemble
the spontaniety
the energy
the instrumentation
the layers of melodies
the rhythms


When this gets a few spins on a legit stereo system you will see that this record was sequenced brilliantly. Last december is a genius way to close this record.

And to me this makes alot of records look like Kathy Lee Gifford Sings the D'angelo songbook. So whether this is his best isnt what is important that is subjective like crazay what is important is its a record for doubters and its a odd gem for sure. I thought to myself "what would I take out if I was Prince on this record" and it just seemed like every song was there for a reason.



Serious funk on
Family Name
Everlasting Now
The Work
1+1+1=3




This record also seems to have the most personal freedom of all time of things he wants to say whether good or bad so the spirit is enhanced quite a bit.




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Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

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Jill Scott live album-Nov 2001

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Ras Kass-2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
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Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

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66. "I'll bite."
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1. Sign o' the Times
2. Parade
3. Dirty Mind
4. 1999
5. Purple Rain

The Rainbow Children is NOT on this level, in my opinion.

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67. "RE: I'll bite."
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and I say listen again the 80s myth is a facade. Exodus and Gold Experience are as good as SOTT.





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Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Jaguar-Nov 2001??

Prince-Rainbow Children Nov 2001

Dungeon Fam-Nov 2001

Jill Scott live album-Nov 2001

Wu tang-Dec 2001

Ras Kass-2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



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68. "sott ain't shit compared to..."
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>and I say listen again the 80s myth is a facade. Exodus and Gold Experience are as good as SOTT.

i think one of the reasons folks dig sott so much is 'cause of the concert film. for me, the album doesn't live up to the concert film. it's never been one of my favorites for that reason, and after i began hearing his live shit, i stopped listening to all of his albums.

exodus, tGE, the undertaker sessions, & trc are special because they bring that live feel into the album...

the fact that prince isn't hyping trc like he did with rave and those before it since he left wbr intrigues me.

is he waiting to go on tour to support trc until after vbop falls off the charts? i think it has here... perhaps even in the uk.

anyways...
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69. "covering my ass... (pt 2)"
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and yes, i have the japanese laserdisc of sott.
i watch that more than any of the concert laserdiscs i have. i was just meaning that the album just didn't match the energy...
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75. "Why SOTT is better than anything he's ever done period."
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1. "Adore".
2. "The Ballad of Dorothy Parker".
3. "Forever In My Life".
4. "If I Was Your Girlfriend"
5. "I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man"
6. "Strange Relationship"

On these songs we hear a man maturing. The songs are amazing to me when viewed in context w/all the work he'd done before them. It's a long way from "I sincerely wanna fuck the taste outta your mouth" & "Oh sister don't put me on the street again" to "There comes a time in every man's life when he gets tired of fooling around" & "If I was your 1 and only friend/Would u run 2 me if somebody hurt u even if that somebody was me". SOTT was the 1st album where he (Prince the protagonist) dropped (some) of the facade and let us peek behind the curtain. It was the 1st time he showed some real heart. (Imagine if we could hear the original "Wally"?) That's what makes the record amazing. It's about more than all the funky guitar licks and the great drum programming and the Fairlight synthesizer.

7. "Sign o the Times"
8. "Play in the Sunshine"
9. "The Cross"

And then his politics got good too, all of a sudden. He'd done shit like "Ronnie Talk to Russia" and "Annie Christian" before that showed how confused his political thinking was before. Finally w/those 3 songs he made some statements that actually made sense. What a difference.

10. "It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night"
11. "Housequake"
12. "It"
13. "Hot Thing"
14. "U Got the Look"

These songs just kick ass. This is the good-time Prince, the horny Prince that we all know and love.

15. "Starfish & Coffee"

This is that one "weird" song to be found on every Prince album. Of course, it's among his best.

16. "Slow Love" (and "Adore" again)

For years Prince had been trying to make a definitive R&B slow-jam, and he did it twice on SOTT.

In concert, these songs still amaze, but they don't carry the emotional weight they do on record. In concert I get the feeling he's more about trying to make us dance or fuck rather trying to make us think or feel. That's what seperates all his studio work from his stage work.

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72. "M thats what im saying"
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UndertakerGold Experience EXODUS Symbol album

now what biyaatch.

as I said Prince when he lost tony M and Kirky and damon D for that period? When Levi split you would think that would make a band fall apart. But Prince just took the lead guitar role.

He was in the ZONE. He is entering the Zone again. Recognize Hit medleys are out the window he has enough money for his 777 pimp canes he is about to go on another "EXPERiENCE" again.

YOU can tell look at the year "2001"

This is it....

TRC is the mark and if you dont know now youuu knowwww (in Biggie Voice)




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Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Jaguar-Nov 2001??

Prince-Rainbow Children Nov 2001

Dungeon Fam-Nov 2001

Jill Scott live album-Nov 2001

Wu tang-Dec 2001

Ras Kass-2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



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73. "LOL!!!!!"
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Laugh of the century.
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59. "Exactly"
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It's good, but it ain't THAT good.
I'm not busting any nuts
I'm not in a big rush to rewind or buy this
And I REALLY doubt this is gonna quiet his critics and most of all Saul (I found that funny)
This is more like a gospel album to me hahaha *ducks*

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60. "RE: Exactly"
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"and most of all... Saul"

Wha? What did I miss? Did Saul say something about PRince too?
I just know Quest "if your better than me or you don't acknowledge me as your DRumming Greatness I will crack on you on my website.... but not in person... even if your part of the reason why I got into music in the first place..." Love...
what did I miss... please fill me in...

  

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62. "and I say Listen again"
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TRC is da Shiiieeeet.

His lyrics are a minor setback Im more into the arrangements and this freewheeling funky ensemble.

tell you what if you can "Everlasting Now" on horns let me know...because the charts must have been ridiculous to get it groovin and keep the time at the same time.

Somebody say GOOD GOD!!





Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)out now!

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Jaguar-Nov 2001??

Prince-Rainbow Children Nov 2001

Dungeon Fam-Nov 2001

Jill Scott live album-Nov 2001

Wu tang-Dec 2001

Ras Kass-2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



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63. "Top Fizzive Man!!!"
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Top Five man... I will give you mine and I haven't heard TRC...
but so far... until I hear TRC... (okay that's annoying...haha..)

1) Sign O The Times (Need I say more... try best concert film..
ever?)
2) Purple Rain (I'm sorry the live recordings and the wharehouse recordings are just too ill...)
3) The Black Album... (Yeah I'm one of the few)
4) Under the Cherry Moon (Genius... pure genius)
5) 1999 (Okay it was a toss up between this and Lovesexy... but the zone he was in on this was... I dunno... just wish I could have been there to watch in amazement...)

Ok... you try...

  

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64. "RE: and I say Listen again"
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If there's anybody's opinion I value the most on this site, it's ?uest and Jef Lee's, and I aint neva seen Jef rave (no pun intended) about a Prince joint like this!!!

And dammit, this shit is gettin me geeked!

Cause after Rave, I was losin hope 4real.

i think the best 2 do if we wanna enjoy this album is 2 simply let go of the past.

We all know this aint the 80's, we all know this shit wont sell big a la Purple Rain, we all know that there will neva be another Revolution (damn!!!!),we all know that he wont write/sing the raw shit he used 2 ("I sincerely wanna fuck the taste outta your mouth"), all we wanna see is what we all know deep down and in the back of our minds...is that this mofo still got it!!!

cant wait til Nov.20!!!

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70. "When Rave came out"
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I was pointing to things here and there "Why is Hot with u on there" "What is up with Silly Games" "Why is Prince messing with Kirky drum loops on Man O war"

But TRC ...

I cant say anything maybe the lyrics and thats about it.

I said to myself what song dont I like on this...

and I thought to myself I like every song?!?! This cant be but it can BE.

And the 80s thing is a facade if you want to take it there we can.

Thats just nostalgia and people stuck in a "timewarp"


That nothing good as SOTT is bullshit. Im so tired of it "RA RA RA RA "

BULLSHIT


TGE is just as fuckin cool as that record.
It is "yea but SOTT has If I was your girlfriend,Housequake,Ballad of Dorothy Parker,Adore,Starfish and Coffee"

And The Gold experience had... count em off with me Shy,Shh,Dolphin,Endorphin Machine,Billy Jack Bitch,I hate you,319, the whole friggin record cept ...We march.

And Exodus had Big Fun,Hallucination Rain,New Power soul,Count the days,Return of the Bump Squad,The Exodus has begun,Good Life



Exodus is as cool as SOTT.

Symbol album is as cool as SOTT.

Its all this facade this deillusion that a year is more representative of a innovative artists path.

You can tell when somebody is inspired.

And TRC is inspiration at its fullest for 2001.



This is the new ERA ... where Princes band takes over again and gets noticed by the "music" crowd again.

He found his "minstrels" this is that catalyst.
Think how long this band has been together like for what ..maybe 1 year. John Blackwell just hopped with NPG last year. Now think in say 2002 fall what this band is gonna sound like?


Man..people better get back in the practice lab because NPG is gonna take it to the stage again.
No more hit medleys hopefully.

If Prince brings a expanded horn section with him on stage its over. Dont step on the stage! You will just combust from the thermonuclear heat left when they are done.

And whats this I hear Wooten is trying to get into collab with Prince if that happens you might as well burn your instruments and the "students" can become musician techs


Anyways SOTT overshadows others cuz of the friggin tour.


But take the black album/lovesexy thats 80 minutes as great as SOTT.

just as great as SOTT and as innovative.
take most of batman soundtrack and more than half of Grafitti Bridge cept for few and just as great as sott

then take Symbol album/Come just as innovative as SOTT

then take TGE/Exodus just as Innovative as SOTT/1999 or whatever the eff you wanna say "LOOK up innovative..This qualifies under that definition"

Now Emancipation had its innovation but it full blown NPG drumbank loop what was happening a lil bit on Exodus but didnt blanket it.
Still Disc 2 Innovative because there was no album like it out

Now NPS... we can clearly say SOTT was killing this album
RAVE this was half and half
You could take half of Rave and half of NPS and make something somewhat interesting.

But SOTT as the best is the biggest facade in the Prince canon.
Its so subjective.

Do you want to know what the best is?


There isnt a best


Prince isnt like Michael jackson trying to please his teen audience he did that a little bit but every year it was "BAM"

to be honest with you the tracks on NPGMC this year are better than what I have heard off invincible.


And I still think the wildest is yet to come with him

Hell you know what...
3 Madhouse albums are as great as SOTT>.




Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)out now!

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Jaguar-Nov 2001??

Prince-Rainbow Children Nov 2001

Dungeon Fam-Nov 2001

Jill Scott live album-Nov 2001

Wu tang-Dec 2001

Ras Kass-2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



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71. "RE: When Rave came out"
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well i neva did get that Exodus album, something inside me just would not let me cop it at the time, now i cant find it 4 shit!!!

and as far the nostalgia goes, hey i aint got nuthin against that man movin on and growin'.

but there is one thing that all those albums u mentioned lack against the SOTT album...TIMELESSNESS!!!!

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74. "NO TGE,"
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will have Timelessness.

That period was special.

87 was special too

2001 is gonna be just as special

It comes in cycles for Prince when he gets that band chemistry

Wendy/Lisa/BobbyZ/Brown Mark/Prince

Sheila/Levi/Bonnie Boyer/Prince/Miko Weaver/Eddie M/

Sonny T/Michael B/Morris/Prince/Tommy

and 6 years later its another cycle.

Its just the channel prince is on. when he listens to that "Voice" and not the "lawyers or publicists" he makes amazing music.




Prince/John Blackwell/etc....


Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)out now!

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Jaguar-Nov 2001??

Prince-Rainbow Children Nov 2001

Dungeon Fam-Nov 2001

Jill Scott live album-Nov 2001

Wu tang-Dec 2001

Ras Kass-2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



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54. "Confused..."
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Is The Rainbow Children only available on the Internet for his music club members, or will it be released in stores November 20th?

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56. "RE: Confused..."
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Both - pre-released to the internet club, with thr official release on 11.20.01

  

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76. "the 80s is not a facade!"
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sure, if you wanna mix and match, yep, prince did write a lot of great, even brilliant songs in the 90s. I wish hed still play some of them in concert. But for complete albums that I can listen to from start to finish, then the 90s was lacking. gold Expereince was in the zone but I wouldnt really say it was innovative.

Id rather hear the undertaker for guitar-live band perfection. Princes best records - FULL records- in the 90s were the truth, undertaker (it was meant to be an album). I would say emancipation, if you strip away one discs worth.

They maybe stand up to albums from the 80s but nah, the symbol album was effed up becuase of the rapping. It IS there. Prince put it there. I cant block it out when I play it. And Exodus is really really funky, but Prince can do more original funk than that. A lot of that was easy for him to do. It rocks, yes, it jams really hard, and it has some classic songs but its not the complete package.

TRC sounds like it could be but Prince still could do more leftfield stuff I think and if he really wants to win over the world hes gonna have to go wayyyyyyy out there for once. If TRC does this forgive me, I havent heard it all yet.


  

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77. "Prince did corny stuff in 80s"
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Im done with the 80s The period is ovah and Im glad its over. Theres great songs there but "IT" was corny "IT" was put on a record instead of "Old friends for Sale"

IT is Shit.

Who cares about the rapping?

Tony M was like Vanity she popped up everyonce in a while but you dealt with her.

He is only on 3 spots on Symbol album.

Song sequence on symbol album is devastating.
except for 1 or 2 songs "Blue Light" and another one.

and TGE and Undertaker and Exodus ...all important records.

I like the 80s records but I dont want them over again.

I listened to them I enjoyed them but as I said

my new 2 words for the year of TRC is

LISTEN
AGAIN

THIS is princes if not one of his best works and if somebody throws to me "yea but some moments are corny"
Well...I can go to SOTT and find corny moments
"IT" for one... I can find corny moments on all of Princes records thats part of his personality. His overfascination with Sex to extreme levels to the point of "Give me a break I get the idea"

and with that I say

LISTEN AGAIN......

TRC is a cyclic record.

92-Symbol Album
95-TGE,Exodus
96=Disc 2
98-The Truth(even though it was packaged it was a era statement)
2001-TRC


Rave and NPS? Mostly Accessible drumloop EarCandy trying to get Daly on MTV to say "Dis Record is da BOOOOMB check out the new video HOT WITH U its off the hook"

Whether you want to admit it or not or like it or not it is.

Its a INNOVATIVE era marker. RECOGNIZE...


and yes its as good as anything as Prince did in the 80s


And this is Princes most edgy record to date when the press hears this you are gonna see waht I mean.

Religious organizations could go after Prince because its all over this record its not anymore "LA LA GOD IS LOVE" no its not that its a whole friggin record of messages on spiritual beliefs not encoded with the tag of "Sex me sex me not"


As far as being innovative. Show me a band (Whether its John Blackwell,Horn Section and Just Prince that is still a band)or a record that sounds like TRC. It has never been done before . Innovative is defined as to create something new or partly new. Thats what Prince did. Innovative doesnt mean whether you or Uncle Sal (who wears his Sign O the Times glasses and rides a custom made purple rain Cycle) like it and gives it the approval. Who gives a f what Uncle Sal thinks? IT means something partly new. THAT is what this is. Prince has never done a record that sounds like this. Hence the TERM I-N-N-O-V-A-T-I-V-E

If somebody is gonna throw Lovesexy or whatever record you want there are moments on that record that are JUST as corny. "Glam Slam" give me a break... \


TRC is it...



If a Prince uses a toliet flush as background percussion on the next record with Larry saying "PREACH BABY BROTHA" Thats innovative Innovative has nothing to DO whether you like it or not.
It can be wack as hell and still be innovative.
But as for me TRC is innovative and funky as F$^$

And it has a one minute interlude to die for. "Wedding Feast"


Even if I didnt like this record I would still say it is something new or Innovative. But lucky for me that isnt the case.


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Jaguar-Nov 2001??

Prince-Rainbow Children Nov 2001

Dungeon Fam-Nov 2001

Jill Scott live album-Nov 2001

Wu tang-Dec 2001

Ras Kass-2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
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Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.



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78. "She Loves Me For Me..."
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should be a single.

with a straight band performance-style video.

  

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80. "Idea/Theory:"
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Do ya'll think that the "new Madhouse album" Prince, John Blackwell and Najee were working on became the basic tracks for The Rainbow Children?

There's clearly months' work of vocal recording on top of the instrumentals, but really, the verses and choruses and speaking voices and everything are really kinda crafted OVER the ever-changing music.

The actual sections of music don't lay off for a vocal line, melody or anything...they just burn ahead....and it's brilliant, because when the vocals are present, they're crafted into the music...OVER the music...

hmm?

  

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83. "Maybe some pieces but..."
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My theory is prince had the outline as much as 2/3 years ago because he said in a older interview "Im writing something political its sort of a musical"

So maybe some musical pieces as you said were used for TRC.

Anyways I feel TRC to be ptobably the most talked about Prince record in 5 years because the subject matter is defined and out there. He mentions sexuality in 2 songs and thats about it.


Anyways the new Prince is alot more exciting in live arrangements than ever before.


Prince should get redline to invest in a million dollar video and have MTV play it but get somebody controversial to do it.

and have messages of the DAY in it.


If he doesnt this album is not gonna meet Redlines selling expectations of all the promotion money they put into it.


And I hope Prince does interviews and performances for this record.

He really has a record to connect with the times its inspirational and thats in season. Not loving mayte as a soulmate but the question of "Whats happening to my world I am feeling deillusioned by what people are telling me this season"

Whether it sells well is up to the public and the proper video. Prince hasnt had a proper video since early 90s








Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)out now!

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Prince-Rainbow Children Nov 2001

Dungeon Fam-Nov 2001

Jill Scott live album-Nov 2001

Wu tang-Dec 2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.


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84. "hmmm...trilogy?"
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The Truth
The Rainbow Children
The Dawn
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88. "Like Lovesexy? (Again)"
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Recall the last time Prince made a 'controversial' record (nudity on the cover, even) w/a strong message (few mentions of sex) and tried to sell it to the public (w/a big, expensive arena/stadium tour, no less).

Recall the music was very dense and it was a complete departure from what he'd been doing at the time. (The sparcity of SOTT, the funk-nastiness of The Black Album) It was also a "band record".


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87. "Like Lovesexy?"
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85. "grimaces"
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- rhymes "God" with "the opposite of nato is otan" inexplicably

- the computerized radioheadfitterhappier computer voices on family name bit

- the bob george slowed vocal part is ineffective...you can't really understand the words, the words are overthetop pretentious, and it's not funky, it's creepy

- wedding song



elsewise, i love it. this is what prince should be doing. this is a prince album that i have waited for.

and yes, i had just given about up on him, (and wasn't too excited about this album) until last week...

  

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89. "Everywhere."
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He almost had me running to a Kingdom Hall w/that song.

It's gorgeous.

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90. "This album is more defined"
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than lovesexy.


It sounds mixed better it sounds more resonant with the bass,horns and drums and keyboards and the guitars are more uncompressed and not held into place via volume.

Everything about this record is "Freed up"

Statement record...



The difference being Lovesexy being limited to "45" minutes and rainbow children "70 " minutes.

and its more controversial than Lovesexy because it has to deal with God and the government and history and race and the story of Existence.

Lovesexy was just a loveoutfest with really veiled messages.

this one is Princes most less veiled record yet. This is prince saying "Time to get Serious about GOD now this is how it works and dont debate with me Brotha Larry told me"

Where lovesexy it was like "Whatever man isnt Cat Sexy God is love love is god my band jams"

Anyone who says he isnt becoming a J.W. you are quickly losing that debate without a doubt.



This is his most less sexual content record ever even less than the Truth.




Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)out now!

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Prince-Rainbow Children Nov 2001

Dungeon Fam-Nov 2001

Jill Scott live album-Nov 2001

Wu tang-Dec 2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.


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91. "The dawn could be"
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parts of this record and parts of Emancipation.

I think prince took the dawn off the schedule list because he lost interest in it.


anyways I think Dawn became a hybrid of tracks overthe year scattered about.




Jef L. Johnson-Hype Factory(2cd new solo!)out now!

Jef Johnson/SonnyT/MichaelB-October 2001

Ghostface Killah-Nov 2001

Prince-Rainbow Children Nov 2001

Dungeon Fam-Nov 2001

Jill Scott live album-Nov 2001

Wu tang-Dec 2001

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it drops gonna stay in my sig til now. just check http://www.smartalecmusic.com for now.
One of the best original designed sites out. He is the CEO you know of Smart Alec Music. Bugs Bunny is the Vice Prez and Marvin The martian is in charge of A&R while Yosemite Sam handles the southwest division of Smart Alec. Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn are leaders of the street team. Its a family thang.

Tonex-Oxygen (early 2002! yea I know September has been moved doh

a comment from RhemaK a artist who works with Tonex about Oxygen: I have heard five songs from Tonex's 'Oxygen'album that is going to be coming out next year. The lyrics and that beats are going to take you over the edge and out of your car seat. That is what it did to me. The proof is in the pudding. You will see 2002. 'Oxygen is no joke' "

as usual all hip hop albums subject to change.


"You know when theres a Starbucks across the street from another Starbucks Its REALLY OVERRRRR!!"-Lewis Black from the Daily Show

Au80: the Gold Standard in Hip Hop and R&B.
10-12 PM CST

http://kanm.tamu.edu

Foley-Time:Clock of Da Universe (it comes out when it dro

  

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92. "RE: Everywhere."
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is it just me or do you hear Wendy and Lisa singing b/g vocals?
I swear...those vocals sound just like the background vocals from "All my dreams".
could it be? that would be cool...sneak em in.

All in all...I dig this album. I've learned to take the times he gets corny to reflect on the "ohschittness" that probably is occuring on another instrument or voice...or the tracks before.
but sorry, there is some corny sounding schitt on here...the little latin spots in "last december"...I mean...anyways.

Family Name is a complete "OHSCHITT" experience.

this joint is rolled very well.

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