i moved this post to the lesson only because the subject matter i'm about to raise will probably turn this post into an extra 100 replies. and it's subject is more about a topic on jay---as opposed to the jay post in the okayartist board---





well i was gonna save my last 13 day experience for a superupdate tommorow. but i'd figure i'd talk a lil here.

but jay was hogging the computer.

my dream is to see black artists more aware of the power of the internet. most laugh (kelis), some are scurred (erykah), some don't have a clue (wu), some are aware (chuck d), some have made a profit (prince).....but most still sleep.

i never intended for him to see the site (i think benzino post caught his eye) but once he was ignoring the mix to see what y'all had to say i think he got more intrigued.

and wasn't mad at all at the dissing posts either (we did a search).

sometimes when you are separated from...well separated from some sort of focus group besides your boys it's hard to really know people's honest opinion of you. i mean, some of the charges are downright mean, some are heartfelt, some are over the top....but at least you have a feel for what's going on. he couldn't turn away from the posts. i know that pos and dave are here all the time. just in disguise as not to get the wrong reaction from people.


i asked him how involved is he with his website....

he smells bait....and don't think for a minute that i wouldn't ask him to be an okayartist. personally i was looking for someone that wouldn't meet approval to the vast majority. but at the end of the day, he is a more than capable craftsman. and i think the controversy is good. (before you cry sellout, i said nothing of charging folks to come here)


but that wasn't my point.


at the end of the day i just wanna say that (not that i ever had a negative opinion...well...--okay i never liked the music to "lucky me") i/we could have never been more wrong about an individual. jay is one of the coolest mofo's i've met in a sec. com confirmed this to me 5 years ago when jay and him did some dates in europe sometime back.

and he's the smartest backpacker i know.

yes...he's a backpacker. just a lil smarter in crossing to their side of the fence.

his favorite mc's are emcees that don't have triangles next to their name in billboard.

his whole positioning on "takeover" he insists was not out of spite, but to infuse the good ole battles of old with hip hop. i can't argue with that since i still utter that roxanne shante is only good for steady fuckin everytime i see bdp.

---sorry y'all (don't want to erase post) i'll save the rest for an update (we are still stuck on "takeover" and i have to master at 10am....so i might have to wait til the middle of the week to finish update.

i have more to type.....but i am needed at board again, and i don't want to retype this post so imma just send now and countinue lata man.












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"How great are the Roots live? Their drummer.oh my god, he's such a great
drummer. He's so good. So good! Such a great drummer. Is he one of those
musicians that knows how to play everything? He's such a great drummer. I
love them."
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check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

I always expected Jay to be cool I aint surprised by your observations or whatever.
I never expected the whole "backpacker" thing although I dont really picture Jay listening to Nelly or something.
Fuck selling out, okayplayer should be about diversity anyhow as long as its all good music..plus its better to bring people in that would create room for discussion.
I remember someone telling me that some labels make their interns read sites like okaypalyer to get a consensus of public opinion..I hope this site has a wide variety of opinions that reflect the masses.
Ok I am hungry I need to heat up this burrito.

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>I remember someone telling me that
>some labels make their interns
>read sites like okaypalyer to
>get a consensus of public
>opinion..

Yep, my brother was watching a documentary about marketing and trend hunters/cool hunters. They interviewed this cool looking bling-bling busta rhymes-clothed young man who said he was picked up from the streets by a major marketing firm. His job was to pick up new trends..... and he used the internet as his tool. There was a few shots of him writing something at okayplayer.com! he was even posting a message just to show them what he was doing

faker! he's probably sitting in his big chair with a clever smile, kissing his gold, right now


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think the "power" in the internet is? money? reaching the masses? power in the ability to gain some independence? the propagation of your art?

just wondering because a large part of the reason i'm into graphic design/website shit is because i want to aid communities in realizing the "power" of the internet. that, being a task that most designers serving the quote"inthemainstreamtypes"unquote don't ever really have to consider.

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in knowing a lil more about who he likes?

do that nigga be bumpin funcrusher plus..lol

naw..but nothing surprises me..and i knew he was on his shit when he interpolated can i kik it on 22 2's




"you are an insensitive asshole"

stop

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Well, he got points for saying U.G.K. was his favorite hip-hop group. He got kudos for that. I guess alot of cats don't like him, because he portrays himself real pompous...most cats have a hard time paying their bills (smart or not).

I guess it's a contradiction of sorts...being Kane wasn't any less pompous. But we've grown, and so has hip-hop. Wearing jewlery, and having 3 (count'em...three) ladies on your lap was cool on a Cold Chillin album cover, but on MTV? Yeah, it's a contradiction. Still, it's a little hard to swallow.

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Appreciate ?uest's effort to enlighten us to the fact that some artists aren't always what they portray themselves to be. Anyway, I feel his point about the potential about the internet. I get knocked by my girl all the time for being on it too much, but there's just so much to do with not enough time. Either I'm on mirc, here, or some of the many sites that I frequent. I think the best way to interest those stalwarts that try to avoid the internet at any cost is to introduce them to a site that deals with one of the interests. For example, I love okayplayer because it deals with music and is the website for many of the artists that I support. If that doesn't work, then just discuss monetary benefits. But, no matter how you do it, it must be done, because nobody needs to be left behind in this technology age.





Look how far El Dorados and wine bottles drug us /Least God and the sun love us - Common

So many ways out the hood but no signs say out- Nas

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

Even though this may be unrealistic, maybe ?uest can ask him when he's going to come to St. Thomas (most of ya'll probably didn't catch the VI reference in All I Need) to put on a show for de brothas.


Look how far El Dorados and wine bottles drug us /Least God and the sun love us - Common

So many ways out the hood but no signs say out- Nas

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

reading the jay article in rolling stone made me respect him more as a businessman/artist (i've yet to feel the need to listen to any of his records .. yet). and its always interesting to know that artists can use the internet positively, to possibly improve their work. good times.

and like donwill said, i wanna know what he's listening to ..

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and industry pros too...

that doesn't stop me from speaking my mind, in fact it spurs me to speak diplomatically about what I'm thinking - because chances are cats are gonna see it.
I'm more inclined to say on OKP what I won't say in a review - like you said earlier - this is your house - and I've been a guest in your house long enough to feel at home. You know?
Adversely, a lot of artists say they never check their site because they can't stand the cruel things that they read bout themselves.
I get emails sometimes from people who read stuff I've written and I'm still so amazed that I've affected this person who lives in Australia or Sweden or something. I think artists would be pretty intrigued with their voice on the internet and how far it can go.
Remember the Talib/3rd Rail post? That was worldwide! lol For the good or the bad damn near everyone heard what they had to say. If a Jay Z or an Erykah posted something, guaranteed that even the cat who never bought an album would read the words.

So with that said - give Jay a big ole hug. He was nice when I met him back in '97 - and he'd never amemba me in a million years - but he was nice and I'll always remember him that way.

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I am glad that the internet has tuned Jay into what the streets is thinking. It actually makes me happy to see so much talk about Jay around OKP. I must admit that I wrote Jay off after Vol. 2, but with the Blueprint and the fact that he is down with some of the collest mofo's in Hip Hop intrigues me. What if Jay released an album filled with positive and political views? What if Jay surrounded himself with instruments instead of Champagne bottles and drum machines. I have a feeling were gaining closer to that reality (at least I hope so). I wanna tell my grand kids that the dopest MC had diversity and lasted.
Well that's my two cents...

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December 10th: "Cry" single officially released (UK)(Includes Invincible outtake "Shout" and Bad outtake "Streetwalker")
(Enhanced CD with "Cry" video)

December 18th: "Butterflies" single officially released (US)

January 2002: Unbreakable Short Film Debut. Produced by Lucasarts Studios

March 2002: Appearence in Lisa Minnelli's TV tribute. 10 minute broadway dance & song routine

Michael Jackson will rule the world once again }> }> }> }>

In Heavy Rotation;

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Radiohead- I Must Be Wrong : Live Recordings
Angie Stone- Mahogany Soul
Duke Ellington & John Coltrane
Prince- The Rainbow Children
Jill Scott- The Experience 826+
Michael Jackson- Invincible
Roberta Flack- First Take

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all these folks are posting stuff like "maybe jayz will become 'concious' now and talk about politics and use intruments". That wouldnt be that fly because that's not who he is. I honestly wouldnt want Jay-Z rhyming an album about mumia and assatta shakur etc. Jay-Z is a soulful artist though and you can feel that on blueprint. As long as he stays true and does what he does best that is the shit.
Not every artist has to be like common and dead prez, that would be boring.
I love M.O.P. Jay-Z Dre Busta Slum and whoever just as much as all the 'concious' okayplayer artists. Anyways I was just noticing how so many folks were like is Jay-z gonna get 'concious' now well he should.
'concious' is a ridiculous term anyways.


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Steve, what is conxious anyways? I consider that a dumb term aswell and it was never used in the same context as Jay Z. I never said that I wanted Jay to rhyme about Mumia and civil rights. I simply said that I would love to see Jay spread his wings. The man has so much talent and I would love to see him explore it. And how do you know what is "true" to Jay. Jay could be doing what the streets wants him to do right now and really be holding back. This upcoming Unplugged session is a portal to his potential. After reading about him as a business man and now hearing his new material his is definatly my favorite in the game right now.Hehe...it's funny. I remember when Com was a "Street" rapper and then he did Retrospect for life, shit hit the fan. The patern is starting to repeat with Jay too,watch and see...

> I honestly wouldnt want
>Jay-Z rhyming an album about
>mumia and assatta shakur etc.
>Jay-Z is a soulful artist
>though and you can feel
>that on blueprint. As long
>as he stays true and
>does what he does best
>that is the shit.
>Not every artist has to be
>like common and dead prez,
>that would be boring.
>I love M.O.P. Jay-Z Dre Busta
>Slum and whoever just as
>much as all the 'concious'
>okayplayer artists. Anyways I was
>just noticing how so many
>folks were like is Jay-z
>gonna get 'concious' now well
>he should.
>'concious' is a ridiculous term anyways.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
December 10th: "Cry" single officially released (UK)(Includes Invincible outtake "Shout" and Bad outtake "Streetwalker")
(Enhanced CD with "Cry" video)

December 18th: "Butterflies" single officially released (US)

January 2002: Unbreakable Short Film Debut. Produced by Lucasarts Studios

March 2002: Appearence in Lisa Minnelli's TV tribute. 10 minute broadway dance & song routine

Michael Jackson will rule the world once again }> }> }> }>

In Heavy Rotation;

DJ Mark Farina- Mushroom Jazz Vol.2
Radiohead- I Must Be Wrong : Live Recordings
Angie Stone- Mahogany Soul
Duke Ellington & John Coltrane
Prince- The Rainbow Children
Jill Scott- The Experience 826+
Michael Jackson- Invincible
Roberta Flack- First Take

______________________________________________

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stevefoster.bandcamp.com
twitter.com/mrstevefoster

Just alot of the posts on the other thread.
But yea I mean development is all good but some people think he should just automatically become mos def or something.

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>I remember
>when Com was a "Street"
>rapper and then he did
>Retrospect for life, shit hit
>the fan. The patern is
>starting to repeat with Jay
>too,watch and see...
>

but I think this is the mentality that steve is referring to. why would you want to see 'common's pattern' repeat through jay-Z? you have already seen and experienced an artist growing the way common has and continues to do. you have already seen artists such as andre3000 grow too. jay-z has been growing at his own clip and becoming the artist and performer he wants to be. jay seems like an individualist to me respecting his own opinion and judgment and so its not like he is scared to touch on other subjects or experiment more musically or lyrically. instead of trying to envision what he is going to become why not deal with who he is...and be delighted if you like his music and simply accept it if you don't. otherwise you continue to be disappointed by your own expectations. of course we are always going to have high expectations for certain artists based on what we think they are capable of, but like all things there is a middle path to walk.
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...but I heard Roc is gonna re-release it with the Michael Jackson track in December so I been holdin off (what the hell that same shit happened with Vol III).

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My beef with Jay has been that I got tired of the subject matter. I mean Blueprint is the first Jay I bought since Reasonable Doubt (I spin, so of course I have Jay singles on wax to keep the party moving). Not because I don't think he can rhyme but because I tired of the cars, ice and girls, etc. etc. and Swizz Beats (hated him). I also felt that the albums between RD and Blueprint were like ZJay goign thru the motion. It was kinda like he knew how dope he was so he was rolling out the bed and recording an album over breakfast yawning. Shit he knew it was gonna go Plat. He knew the chickens, wannabe thugs, etc. were dying for more Jigga so hey no problem.

That being said. No one since Biggie can drop rhymes about the material shit in life like Jay. Furthermore, even though I get tired of the subject matter at times, Jay raps rings around some of the "conscious" rappers that folks around here sweat so much. At the end of the day hip-hop is about how you say what you say, not necessatily waht you say. I mean we have plenty of hip-hop classics about absolutely nothing or "negative shit (Biz's Pickin' Boogers, Special Ed's I got It Made, etc.) If Jay started rapping about revolution, I'd have to hunt that mofo down and beat him with a stick. Leave that shit to Dead Prez. But Jay hsa to be one of the most clever cats in the game with the way he drops one liners in his rhymes so I'm sure he can he can find ways of dropping an occasional positive jewel in a rhyme for the youth besides "hey I dealt drugs doesn't mean you have to" That shit always seems so hollow to me when cats say that but continue to rhyme about drugs.

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In the spirit of Festivus, I will use this sorry board to occasionally air my own grievances. As Frank put it so eloquently in that immortal "Seinfeld" episode three Festivuses ago, "I got a lot of problems with you people! And now you're gonna hear about it!" I'll spare you folks the feats of strength.


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Jay Z's material just bores me. I am not saying he is not a good emcee or that he hasn't made good songs, but his music is boring. He is not very innovative, doesn't really take any chances, and I am not talking about Outkast chances or Mos Def chances, just a lil something to show that he is trying to be an artist, rather than a businessman who is a musician. I guess that's not him though and I guess that's why I am not a fan.

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rapid emcee perversion -- I'm America!

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> If Jay
>started rapping about revolution, I'd
>have to hunt that mofo
>down and beat him with
>a stick. Leave that
>shit to Dead Prez.

Gotta disagree here only in the sense that I am concerned about EXECUTION more than idea. Which means, if Jay can flip a revolutionary theme, why should he hold back? If Biz Markie has a serious song he wants to drop and it's *done well*, why should he say "I'm Biz Markie, I can't ever do a serious song". That's stagnation right there, homeboy.

Everybody should contribute according to their abilities. If Jay can freak a song about Mumia, he should spit that shit, preconceptions be damned.

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit Equality

“Freestyle” is coming to Washington DC!! OKP Majrleaguer and myself have collaborated to bring this critically acclaimed film to the DC hip-hop massive.

“Freestyle” is a documentary on the art of freestyling, featuring performances from Mos Def, Pharoah Monche, Planet Asia, Freestyle Fellowship, Supernatural, JUICE, and many others (including footage of the now legendary Supernatural/Craig G battle). The film also features a rarely seen freestyle session between Tupac and Biggie shortly before the two men’s rivalry and subsequent murders (and they are so joyous as they rhyme, it is hard to imagine they would become bitter enemies later in their lives). The film also features commentary from Talib Kweli, The Last Poets, Toni Blackmon (of Freestyle Union) and many more.

What: “Freestyle” documentary
When: Tuesday, November 27th 9:15pm (with encore dates from December 3rd-6th, 9:30pm every night)
Where: Visions Theater (1927 Florida Avenue NW, off of Florida and Connecticut)
How Much: $6
For More Info: http://www.visionsdc.com

On the 27th, there will be an introduction by the director Kevin Fitzgerald and Q&A afterward

PLEASE SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!

(and show up EARLY, the place only has 200 seats)

Also, be on the lookout for the after-event NOVEMBER 27th (ignore the other date I put up earlier), featuring performances by former Rawkus Recordings artist Shabaam Sadeeq and other local underground luminaries (sponsored by Raptivism, with other sponsors to be announced). It goes down at the Kaffa House (1212 U St NW), 10pm-2am.

Send questions to alancpage@aol.com

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>Everybody should contribute according to their
>abilities. If Jay can freak a song about Mumia, he
>should spit that shit, preconceptions be damned.

Of course Jay can. Remember "D'Evils?" Nuff said.

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>>Everybody should contribute according to their
>>abilities. If Jay can freak a song about Mumia, he
>>should spit that shit, preconceptions be damned.
>
>Of course Jay can. Remember
>"D'Evils?" Nuff said.

D'Evils was NEVER a conscious song. People get it twisted and think that song was some morality tale that's anti-money. In a way it is, but come on, "I fed her fifties till her shit made sense"? Any song where the protagonist forcefeeds a woman hostage money and said protagonist never truly faces consequences is far from a morality tale. And I definitely would never call "D'Evils" political rap.

Unless there was some consequence at the end that I can't remember, that is...it's been years since I heard that song...I always wondered why folks thought it was "positive" though.

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit Equality

“Freestyle” is coming to Washington DC!! OKP Majrleaguer and myself have collaborated to bring this critically acclaimed film to the DC hip-hop massive.

“Freestyle” is a documentary on the art of freestyling, featuring performances from Mos Def, Pharoah Monche, Planet Asia, Freestyle Fellowship, Supernatural, JUICE, and many others (including footage of the now legendary Supernatural/Craig G battle). The film also features a rarely seen freestyle session between Tupac and Biggie shortly before the two men’s rivalry and subsequent murders (and they are so joyous as they rhyme, it is hard to imagine they would become bitter enemies later in their lives). The film also features commentary from Talib Kweli, The Last Poets, Toni Blackmon (of Freestyle Union) and many more.

What: “Freestyle” documentary
When: Tuesday, November 27th 9:15pm (with encore dates from December 3rd-6th, 9:30pm every night)
Where: Visions Theater (1927 Florida Avenue NW, off of Florida and Connecticut)
How Much: $6
For More Info: http://www.visionsdc.com

On the 27th, there will be an introduction by the director Kevin Fitzgerald and Q&A afterward

PLEASE SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!

(and show up EARLY, the place only has 200 seats)

Also, be on the lookout for the after-event NOVEMBER 27th (ignore the other date I put up earlier), featuring performances by former Rawkus Recordings artist Shabaam Sadeeq and other local underground luminaries (sponsored by Raptivism, with other sponsors to be announced). It goes down at the Kaffa House (1212 U St NW), 10pm-2am.

Send questions to alancpage@aol.com

Peace,

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the positive versus negative discussion aside...i'll say this, i'd personally rather hear less about Jay saying he's clapping this person, that person, and the third person. "Blueprint" is fairly toned down for the genre he's in -- in fact, track for track, it's probably the least bodies caught on a Jay album...LOL. He's cussing a lot less too on there. Basically, I'm all for creativity. I'm just trying to see homeboy push himself, because if you look at the lyrics to the "lyrical exercise" joint vs. the lyrics on "izzo", well, one seems a lot more focused than the other. not that every joint has to be overly conceptual, but more attention paid line for line, less filler (as someone noted "what else can I say about dude, he gets bizzay" is straight filler).

it's all opinions though.

i would like to hear him get on more primo tracks though. i think they bring a lot out of each other when they collab.

a com/jay or mos/jay collab would be interesting, as would a slick rick/jay or kane/jay collab.

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit Equality

“Freestyle” is coming to Washington DC!! OKP Majrleaguer and myself have collaborated to bring this critically acclaimed film to the DC hip-hop massive.

“Freestyle” is a documentary on the art of freestyling, featuring performances from Mos Def, Pharoah Monche, Planet Asia, Freestyle Fellowship, Supernatural, JUICE, and many others (including footage of the now legendary Supernatural/Craig G battle). The film also features a rarely seen freestyle session between Tupac and Biggie shortly before the two men’s rivalry and subsequent murders (and they are so joyous as they rhyme, it is hard to imagine they would become bitter enemies later in their lives). The film also features commentary from Talib Kweli, The Last Poets, Toni Blackmon (of Freestyle Union) and many more.

What: “Freestyle” documentary
When: Tuesday, November 27th 9:15pm (with encore dates from December 3rd-6th, 9:30pm every night)
Where: Visions Theater (1927 Florida Avenue NW, off of Florida and Connecticut)
How Much: $6
For More Info: http://www.visionsdc.com

On the 27th, there will be an introduction by the director Kevin Fitzgerald and Q&A afterward

PLEASE SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!

(and show up EARLY, the place only has 200 seats)

Also, be on the lookout for the after-event NOVEMBER 27th (ignore the other date I put up earlier), featuring performances by former Rawkus Recordings artist Shabaam Sadeeq and other local underground luminaries (sponsored by Raptivism, with other sponsors to be announced). It goes down at the Kaffa House (1212 U St NW), 10pm-2am.

Send questions to alancpage@aol.com

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

true i agree 100 % dund... ohh i mean percent! PEACE u said what i was thining jyaz dont have to be like common kweli, mos, dead prez or even dilated so to speak. he has his onw incite on the world aroudn him. I think he is concious in his own prespective. not like kweli conscious or mos , but he is aware of his sorroundings and knows what is best, in his own opinion. Ill be the 1st to admit I would love to hear him speak on stuff like politics police brutality, and shit like that but that aint him. he is a hustler from the streets. I just listened to reasonable doubt" and all he talks about is drugs, money , but thats what he saw around him. and thats real in my opinion. I dont come from the same side of the tarcks as him so to speak, but he rapped about what he saw aorund him.

okplayer Ever on hip hop shows:

"Ever: Only at a fukin' backpacker show do you find beautiful girls who don't get hit on by the guys.

Alfred:I know, Lame ass backpackers prolly

> Ill be the 1st
>to admit I would love
>to hear him speak on
>stuff like politics police brutality,
>and shit like that but
>that aint him.

well Jay does have SOME political content. Y'all are acting like dude is Spice 1 or something. I think "Dopeman" in particular is a critical analysis of the justice system, from a hustler's perspective, but an analysis nonetheless. give homeboy a little credit, eh? It IS in him, he just limits it to isolated instances rather than make entire albums concerning social awareness, a la dead prez. Just a random Mumia reference here, a "I'm overcharging y'all for what you did to the Cold Crush" there, and so on. His "freestyle" on the WTC tragedy is a fine example of Jay's ability to play social observer outside the fairly limited sphere of criminal life.

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit Equality

“Freestyle” is coming to Washington DC!! OKP Majrleaguer and myself have collaborated to bring this critically acclaimed film to the DC hip-hop massive.

“Freestyle” is a documentary on the art of freestyling, featuring performances from Mos Def, Pharoah Monche, Planet Asia, Freestyle Fellowship, Supernatural, JUICE, and many others (including footage of the now legendary Supernatural/Craig G battle). The film also features a rarely seen freestyle session between Tupac and Biggie shortly before the two men’s rivalry and subsequent murders (and they are so joyous as they rhyme, it is hard to imagine they would become bitter enemies later in their lives). The film also features commentary from Talib Kweli, The Last Poets, Toni Blackmon (of Freestyle Union) and many more.

What: “Freestyle” documentary
When: Tuesday, November 27th 9:15pm (with encore dates from December 3rd-6th, 9:30pm every night)
Where: Visions Theater (1927 Florida Avenue NW, off of Florida and Connecticut)
How Much: $6
For More Info: http://www.visionsdc.com

On the 27th, there will be an introduction by the director Kevin Fitzgerald and Q&A afterward

PLEASE SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!

(and show up EARLY, the place only has 200 seats)

Also, be on the lookout for the after-event NOVEMBER 27th (ignore the other date I put up earlier), featuring performances by former Rawkus Recordings artist Shabaam Sadeeq and other local underground luminaries (sponsored by Raptivism, with other sponsors to be announced). It goes down at the Kaffa House (1212 U St NW), 10pm-2am.

Send questions to alancpage@aol.com

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

What if Jay released
>an album filled with positive
>and political views? What if
>Jay surrounded himself with instruments
>instead of Champagne bottles and
>drum machines. I have a
>feeling were gaining closer to
>that reality (at least I
>hope so). I wanna tell
>my grand kids that the
>dopest MC had diversity and
>lasted.


hmmm...personally i'd yawn to death.
you know why? that ain't him.
i mean on the real...

and i know y'all gonna trip.

but on the real? the mofo's on the juice 2000 issue of the vibe shot (sqrns) are just as trife as jay's lyrics.

for real...the same nigga's that are about change and revoulution....are the same nigga's that:

-dropped e
-pulled mad jawns for 4somes and 5somes
-been involved in domestic violence situations
-busted they guns
-have jail records
-beat niggas down
-smacked bitches up (just making a point, need to use rawest colloquism to make point)
-fucked white women
-ignored fans
-dis the competition
-dissed other people that they smiling with in that very photo.
-catch mad cases
-tear the tags off of pillows


okay i went on the deep end. but my point is i don't know no person that cash dosn't rule. and me included. sometimes i don't feel like hearing about speaking to some kids at high schools. or feel like smacking the shit out someone when they look at my glass in a club and realize that it's not juice i'm drinking and cry "hey!!!!!! what they do guy!!!!!!!". or --hey many a cat here is ready to cry ypocrite cause i did a jay record.

at the end of the day i have to be true to myself. as i feel jay does too. he loves welcome to detroit ("i listen to it in the gym") as well as aerosmith's greatest hits. talib and com are some of his favorite mc's. he quotes the simpsons and seinfield (think i heard him talking about "curb your enthusiasm" ep in rehersal) and he made the audience do "spirit fingers" before he broke into "izzo"....

so yes, the man who's a pimp in every sense of the word is also a nerd deep down. who happens to be in touch/control of th hip hop youth today.

i know as a 30 year old some things just change automatically. riq has matured very muh into a mellow cat wheras at 22 he'd be ready to beat you down for sneezing.

and kamal? man fatherhood changed his ass too.

as for me...i decided that my 30's were not gonna be my 20's so i got my spirit, my art and health in order.

and who knows? (correction..jay has one studio cut on record. unfortunantely it's a cover of the same johnny guitar watson song we were about to record with bb king "lovin you"...jay's is called "i hear people"...i think it's his reort to prodigy who as you know threatend his life a few times on the new mobb album. but it's more......well...mellow?--i guess that comes with age. i doubt that this will be our last time working.

who knows? lesson pt 4?

talib, jay, riq, com?

hmmmmmmm...lemme get on phone....



if i ever went solo, my favorite drummer would be me bragging sig:

"How great are the Roots live? Their drummer.oh my god, he's such a great
drummer. He's so good. So good! Such a great drummer. Is he one of those
musicians that knows how to play everything? He's such a great drummer. I
love them."
-james king

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

i did not mean to be the 69th post on the jay z thread.







if i ever went solo, my favorite drummer would be me bragging sig:

"How great are the Roots live? Their drummer.oh my god, he's such a great
drummer. He's so good. So good! Such a great drummer. Is he one of those
musicians that knows how to play everything? He's such a great drummer. I
love them."
-james king

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

feels kinda good tho dontit?

http://UrbLife.com
http://twitter.com/FlyLikeDove
http://instagram.com/FlyLikeDove
http://Facebook.com/FlyLikeDove
http://flylikedove.contently.com

all you are doing is selling us on how cool he is. well none of usknow him personally and we probally never will. whats the point? Everyone is cool to their peeps.

Im just lookin at what it will bring to the boards. You have a pretty good thing going here that you thought of yourself. You can have whoever you want on it. Im just presentin logical reasons why you wouldn't want you might not wanna.

Ill sleep at night either way it goes & support it as long as it stays objective & the present quality maintains. When its done I'm out.
----------------------------------------
I'm for the advancement of manuscript
pencil projectile
grip mics wit apendages similar to reptile
Komodo dragin as Im draggin the whole bandwagon/v6 or v8 Audi or Volkswagon
are u man or mannaquin or the result of close kinfolk
youd have a better chance of Micheal Jackson moonwalkin in Timbo's
than seeing me heated/last cat threw in the towel before he got defeated
I deleted mo rhymes than you heard/I'M A NERD
my pocket protector is bulletproof/F whay ya heard
ya best heat is mild mine is picante
got niggas lyin bout they age like Danny Almonte's
parents but its transperent/& apparant you try to hide ya identity
Grown man sports you dont qualify mentally
yall act like an irritated prostate & dont prostrate
to the Lord of the Worlds -yall destined for Pacs fate.....

Algebra of the Iron Triangle-D.E.F.

"Its we, its the IT"

Tariq-"IT yall".....
Hashim-?
Dahim-?
Uzair-"ya gotta crew ya betta tell em"(c)Keith Murray

--------------------
"Good hair"-Uzi

1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores
thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?)
forced to serve-too broke to by freedom
the systematic rape of African culture has begun
little time

well i wasn't selling anything.
i just decided to give y'all a peak into the wizzard of mar(cy)'s curtain.







if i ever went solo, my favorite drummer would be me bragging sig:

"How great are the Roots live? Their drummer.oh my god, he's such a great
drummer. He's so good. So good! Such a great drummer. Is he one of those
musicians that knows how to play everything? He's such a great drummer. I
love them."
-james king

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

>well i wasn't selling anything.
>i just decided to give y'all
>a peak into the wizzard
>of mar(cy)'s curtain.

And thank you for doing so Quest, cause these hypocritical mofo's around here (and the world over) act like Jay-Z is some effin super hero and shit. That man is simply that, a man. I'm glad that you are giving us a peek into what he's like minus the ice and the bravado cause I know a real complex character lies beneath.
Second of all thank you for calling out some of the characteristics of the so called "concious" artists. People need to stop being fooled just cause some artist has found his or her gimic and clung to it for dear life.

Lastly, I don't want to see Jay-Z yappin bout no Mumia and all that other shit cause if you listen to his music and don't just hear it then you can probably guess what his political stance would be on such a subject. How could he not have a view point on such a subject, being a black man in America.

Ya'll got me amped, i think i'ma star a "Leave Jigga Alone" campaign.

***** The Sig *****
One year as a resident, deep in sentiment, they shout out GO BROOKLYN, they representin it - Dante Smith (guvment on full blast).

(Brook doesn't do stage names !!!)

((((( The Sig )))))
One year as a resident, deep in sentiment, they shout out GO BROOKLYN!! They representin it - Dante Smith (Brook doesn't do stage names).

I do this for the borough - me (eff that, Cam bit my steeze).

I'M A GIRL GOT DAMN !!! (now

>Lastly, I don't want to see
>Jay-Z yappin bout no Mumia

Jay has already talked about Mumia. Get a late pass.

I ask again, why is everyone acting like Jay has zero political content? Am I the only one actually paying attention to his records? And I don't even OWN any of his records!

I am perplexed.

Thoughtfully yours,

Spirit Equality

“Freestyle” is coming to Washington DC!! OKP Majrleaguer and myself have collaborated to bring this critically acclaimed film to the DC hip-hop massive.

“Freestyle” is a documentary on the art of freestyling, featuring performances from Mos Def, Pharoah Monche, Planet Asia, Freestyle Fellowship, Supernatural, JUICE, and many others (including footage of the now legendary Supernatural/Craig G battle). The film also features a rarely seen freestyle session between Tupac and Biggie shortly before the two men’s rivalry and subsequent murders (and they are so joyous as they rhyme, it is hard to imagine they would become bitter enemies later in their lives). The film also features commentary from Talib Kweli, The Last Poets, Toni Blackmon (of Freestyle Union) and many more.

What: “Freestyle” documentary
When: Tuesday, November 27th 9:15pm (with encore dates from December 3rd-6th, 9:30pm every night)
Where: Visions Theater (1927 Florida Avenue NW, off of Florida and Connecticut)
How Much: $6
For More Info: http://www.visionsdc.com

On the 27th, there will be an introduction by the director Kevin Fitzgerald and Q&A afterward

PLEASE SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!

(and show up EARLY, the place only has 200 seats)

Also, be on the lookout for the after-event NOVEMBER 27th (ignore the other date I put up earlier), featuring performances by former Rawkus Recordings artist Shabaam Sadeeq and other local underground luminaries (sponsored by Raptivism, with other sponsors to be announced). It goes down at the Kaffa House (1212 U St NW), 10pm-2am.

Send questions to alancpage@aol.com

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

>Jay has already talked about Mumia.
>Get a late pass.

My bad, i'll go stand in the corner.

>I ask again, why is everyone
>acting like Jay has zero
>political content? Am I the
>only one actually paying attention
>to his records? And I
>don't even OWN any of
>his records!
>

You get my drift though. I'm simply saying that I don't want to see Jay transform into a dead prez. dead prez does dead prez pretty damn good and i wouldn't want to see him make a complete 360 degree turn around and get on some super political shyt.

***** The Sig *****
One year as a resident, deep in sentiment, they shout out GO BROOKLYN, they representin it - Dante Smith (guvment on full blast).

(Brook doesn't do stage names !!!)

((((( The Sig )))))
One year as a resident, deep in sentiment, they shout out GO BROOKLYN!! They representin it - Dante Smith (Brook doesn't do stage names).

I do this for the borough - me (eff that, Cam bit my steeze).

I'M A GIRL GOT DAMN !!! (now

thanks for the great backpacker wake up call i couldnt have hated...I mean said it better!
}>
BACKPACKERS SUCK!!!}> It feels so good to be bad

It will happen.....

intelligent,hell yes!
remember he slowed down so the audience can understand.

I was just thinking to myself he could make a (WTD) like Jay-dee
To the fact he listens to this in the gym
makes me smile so he's definitly wants to hit a home run.
He still be Jay but his music can mature
I'd never assume Jay become ChuckD
but damn even Icecube did a album with bombsquad
he needs a bombsquad.
okay the musical production is not up to speed w his album dropping but the production could be planned for a future release





"To protect the sheep from the wolves you got to become a wolf yourself"-Denzel Wash.

"What, comin' to kill me? I can't hear that
fear is a stimulus I haven't been programmed to feel that
Snatch you out of your Roots like I'm from Illadelph
What I do to push your hairline back Rogaine won't help"-ChinoXL

OKP's say the funniest=...............
Hip-Hop is about turntables and mics, get all them instruments and bullshit out of here, get lost with that crap-J_illa

otherwise, I'm rocking Blueprint daily... although I found out it's not good CD to screw to-Mia_Maxim

:Cyber S0uL:Aaliyah R.I.P.
http://hometown.aol.com/sundasill2/sundasill.html

My DvD must get list

1.Blade Runner

2. Dune

3. Akira

4. Enemy of the State

5. Pollock

6. Mo'better Blues,and Crooklyn

7. Planet of the Apes

Yall share dat- Badu
N E E KeeP Makin music

From this point, I vow to

>for real...the same nigga's that are
>about change and revoulution....are the
>same nigga's that:
>
>-dropped e
>-pulled mad jawns for 4somes and
>5somes
>-been involved in domestic violence situations
>
>-busted they guns
>-have jail records
>-beat niggas down
>-smacked bitches up (just making a
>point, need to use rawest
>colloquism to make point)
>-fucked white women
>-ignored fans
>-dis the competition
>-dissed other people that they smiling
>with in that very photo.
>
>-catch mad cases
>-tear the tags off of pillows

Folks dont realize that.
I guess it's the whole deal with public image. People have this idea of how folks are, but truth is everyone is basically a multi-dimensional person..but people get this like iconic idea of how people are from what they are in the media or what they potray through their art. Everyone is basically the same, subject to the same desires attitudes and inclinatons and faults and shit. Sometimes though, I feel betrayed when people are not upfront about who they are but they really dont have to be and they shouldnt be. I got off topic though. Its like how little girls idolize britney spears as the quintessential role model when for all we know she could be a sex crazed coke head bitch. On this site people idealize their favorite artists in the same way or have negative perceptions of the artists they dont like.
The whole cult of celebrity is always so weird.
Now lesson part 4? that would be hot.



Peace,
Steve
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Watch my slowly growing webpage - http://www.wam.umd.edu/~slogerfo/

[]is this for another one of his duet albums? or just some random thing like the IMAX jawn?

oh and as far as the "cash rules everyone"....but you still agree with this right?

"i drum for the love first.
all else second."


http://www.okayplayer.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=10413&forum=general1&archive=yes#104

Giving You True Lesson Moderation Since'03
******

Want something archived? thats what an inbox is for

oh man, that spirit fingers story is comic gold. I love the little anecdotes like that, and the one about "meeting" janet after her concert.

Nasty like the freaky deaky at your local sleazy speakeasy - MF Doom

-You broke it down...Hopefully folks will get the real message...

I can't wait,
for The Roots & Jay-Z to collaborate!!!..


: ~JOY TO THE WORLD!! :

"Chestnuts roasting on an open fire"--Nat King Cole

"...and Santa is busy with his happy pack. He trusts his drivers and never looks back"--Hardrock CoCo and Joe..

"...and this Christmas will be, a very special Christmas for me"--Donny Hathaway

"Go Hammer, Go Hammer Go!!!"--MC Hammer


***MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO ALL CONCERNED IN THIS TRAGEDY***



.............

I Love Yo ...
http://weblog2000.com/barneyskidspage/Flash/ILoveYou.html

♥ I LUV U 2!!! ♥

  

When is this collabo gonna happen? That's the fire I'm waiting on!

Ask Jay when is he gonna do a Black August tour. We'll be in Brazil this summer (I'm just joking. I'd love to see him do Black August but I doubt very seriously the organizers will go for it).

**********************************

Frank: Many Christmases ago, I went to buy a doll for my son. I reached for the last one they had -- but so did another man. As I rained blows upon him, I realized there had to be another way.
Kramer: What happened to the doll?
Frank: It was destroyed. But out of that, a new holiday was born -- a Festivus for the rest of us!

In the spirit of Festivus, I will use this sorry board to occasionally air my own grievances. As Frank put it so eloquently in that immortal "Seinfeld" episode three Festivuses ago, "I got a lot of problems with you people! And now you're gonna hear about it!" I'll spare you folks the feats of strength.


"it is now the mission of myself and a million others to not just stop at downloading music. we will continue to download en masse, but we will physically steal cds if we have to. anything to make sure the record companies go out of business. burn and sell, give away free stuff in front of record stores. anything. they've pissed millions of americans off by spitting in their face. not only will i stop contributing any money i will make sure i steal it in different ways. down with corrupt businessmen." - some genius who goes by the name of mission


"Give it up Biggie is dead, Eminem is what you have" - Paraphrasing Sarah Jones in Surface Transit

***
"I think Brett Favre basically is a selfish guy, Brett Favre goes out there with his gray hair, his Wranglers and gets up when he gets hit. I understand why people like that. But there's another side. He's a selfish guy." - Teddy Atlas

but shit man. Let Jay-Z be Jay-Z.

my bad

Catch where you coming from with letting Jay be Jay, but I think he has talked about doing an album like that. I think Big said the same thing. An album with no promotion, no cover art, nothing. Bare bones with just the real. None of that trying to sell millions bullshit. Maybe he still has it planned, but just trying to get his money right first. Trust me though, I think it would be his best selling.



Look how far El Dorados and wine bottles drug us /Least God and the sun love us - Common

So many ways out the hood but no signs say out- Nas

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

You see this is what I'm talking about, this is the power of the internet. We have grammy award winning artists in the studio, communicating with thier fans at the same time. I know I feel blessed!


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
December 10th: "Cry" single officially released (UK)(Includes Invincible outtake "Shout" and Bad outtake "Streetwalker")
(Enhanced CD with "Cry" video)

December 18th: "Butterflies" single officially released (US)

January 2002: Unbreakable Short Film Debut. Produced by Lucasarts Studios

March 2002: Appearence in Lisa Minnelli's TV tribute. 10 minute broadway dance & song routine

Michael Jackson will rule the world once again }> }> }> }>

In Heavy Rotation;

DJ Mark Farina- Mushroom Jazz Vol.2
Radiohead- I Must Be Wrong : Live Recordings
Angie Stone- Mahogany Soul
Duke Ellington & John Coltrane
Prince- The Rainbow Children
Jill Scott- The Experience 826+
Michael Jackson- Invincible
Roberta Flack- First Take

______________________________________________

stevefostermusic.com
stevefoster.bandcamp.com
twitter.com/mrstevefoster

Yeah ?uest, trying to tell these cats about the powers of the internet. Most these artists in Detroit are just unaware, expect D12. Them cats know.

It's like no one will able to fuck with my web site on some jay dee and frank n dank shit. I cant wait to see the bullshit MCA tries to put up for them. with a lil more help and exposure, my site can be so much more helpful. i dont think the people that counts see that clear though. ah well.....

K-Fresh

Renaissance Soul - (Un)Officially bringin' you the illest from Detroit... Featuring Jay Dee aka J Dilla - http://www.localhiphop.com/jaydee

KillThaDreadnaughtz.com - Tha Almighty Dreadnaughtz Official Web Site
LISTIN to the Dreadnaughtz cut "Lecture" - http://www.killthadreadnaughtz.com/audio/ad_lecture.ram

Detroit 2002:
1. Slum Village "Trinity" LP
2. Frank N Dank "48 Hours" LP
3. Dwele LP
4. Phat Kat "The Undeniable" LP
5. Obie Trice LP
6. Guilty (of Tha Almighty Dreadnaughtz) "Guilty Simpson... Will Tha Defendent Please Rise" LP
7. Tha Almighty Dreadnaughtz "Trepidation" LP
8. Tha Hero & Tha Terror : Supa Emcee meets Guilty EP
9. House Shoes compilation

... and that's not all folks!!!!

"All you kids that want to get on and shit, remember this. This shit ain't easy. If you ain't got it, you ain't got it muthafucka. Suckas be coming up to me on some bullshit talkin about they wanna freestyle and shit. Breathe stinkin like a muthafucka. Spittin and shit. Other muthafuckas just wanna stand next to me and hang out. I've never did that shit when I wanted to get on. All I did was give a muthafucka a pound, a compliment, then i was out. Told him my name. PEACE!!!" - Guru (intro to Gang Starr's "Hard to Earn")

Renaissance Soul Detroit - www.rensoul.com - YES! I'm still around and better than ever. Come through.

But I'll wait til you hit us wit' mo.

mil.


Celebrating November As "What squeeg Said" Month:

"I thought this was gonna be a post about him doing the shuffle and clapping his hands like he's sexy and he knows it in that 112 video."-squeeg on Beanie

____________________________________
speak the wrong words man & u will get touched.
http://tinysong.com/ldpJ

folks are gonna post as if Jay-Z is gonna read the boards from now on and inbox them hahaha

With that said...
Can't wait to see the joint he and Jag did together...oh wait...fucking Cablevision don't have MTV2. Great...

-It's American

_________________________
Man up

“Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist”---George Carlin

~~~~~~~~~~~
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111? Wow...

Oh yeah, heard the Busta album? I need another listen...

-It's American

_________________________
Man up

“Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist”---George Carlin

I don't doubt that Jay is a "backpacker". To keep this long in the game you gotta listen to everyone. Though I can't relate to the topics, I think his lyrics is on point and how quickly people forget "Can I Get Open", "Feeling It", or even "D Evils". Eh....

And the two Jays need to get together...sunovabitch hahaha

Ahm...ummm ?uest: did you read the Lenny article in the Vibe mag? How does it feel to have the Roots be the Saviors of music?

-It's American

_________________________
Man up

“Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist”---George Carlin

well if i am......

THEN CAN SOMEONE HELP ME PAY MY MAMA'S MORTGAGE!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

jokes.

umm...hmmm i feel like that "baby" dave chapelle skit with vibe (rolling up window "sorrynopedon'ttrustyouneither!!!! CLICK!!!!! CLICK!!!!! (locking car windows)

i mean it's cool, but i hadly see the evidence.

i will say that we are doing our part and some.

but music is in worse trouble as it's ever been.




if i ever went solo, my favorite drummer would be me bragging sig:

"How great are the Roots live? Their drummer.oh my god, he's such a great
drummer. He's so good. So good! Such a great drummer. Is he one of those
musicians that knows how to play everything? He's such a great drummer. I
love them."
-james king

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

"But now that-all praises to the Roots-everyone on the hip-hop/R&B stage, from Snoop Dogg to D'Angelo to Erykah Badu, has brought real musicianship back into our field of vision, and heads like Mos Def, Goodie Mob, and OutKast are giving the guitar player shine, maybe rock and melanin are getting to know each other again."

-It's American

_________________________
Man up

“Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist”---George Carlin

he did.

it still baffles me.
we can yawn at the idea of talking to someone on a device being 9000 miles away.......


but they look at this shit like "whoa!!!!!! i can talk to all of my people at the same time anytime i want?"

he did answer most of the questions but at that point i wanted to finish mixing and coldn't go back and forward.

nope. to the contrary. he read every last jawn.


we even laughed at the "no one cared about forte when he was free" for a minute.

j: damn that was cruel
?: welcome to the internet!

gotta go!



if i ever went solo, my favorite drummer would be me bragging sig:

"How great are the Roots live? Their drummer.oh my god, he's such a great
drummer. He's so good. So good! Such a great drummer. Is he one of those
musicians that knows how to play everything? He's such a great drummer. I
love them."
-james king

check the resume

organix-93
(from the ground up)-94
do you want more?!!???!-95
illadelph halflife-96
things fall apart-99
(the legendary)-99
the roots come alive-99
phrenology-2002
the tipping point-2004
(the roots present...) 2004
homegrown: the beginne

i made jay-z laugh.

"how bout that
i made jay-z laugh."

that seems to be the overwhelming sentiment sense yall were told he was on the boards

"maybye JZ will see my post & notice Im his #1 fan, how do I look?"

I expected more

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I'm for the advancement of manuscript
pencil projectile
grip mics wit apendages similar to reptile
Komodo dragin as Im draggin the whole bandwagon/v6 or v8 Audi or Volkswagon
are u man or mannaquin or the result of close kinfolk
youd have a better chance of Micheal Jackson moonwalkin in Timbo's
than seeing me heated/last cat threw in the towel before he got defeated
I deleted mo rhymes than you heard/I'M A NERD
my pocket protector is bulletproof/F whay ya heard
ya best heat is mild mine is picante
got niggas lyin bout they age like Danny Almonte's
parents but its transperent/& apparant you try to hide ya identity
Grown man sports you dont qualify mentally
yall act like an irritated prostate & dont prostrate
to the Lord of the Worlds -yall destined for Pacs fate.....

Algebra of the Iron Triangle-D.E.F.

"Its we, its the IT"

Tariq-"IT yall".....
Hashim-?
Dahim-?
Uzair-"ya gotta crew ya betta tell em"(c)Keith Murray

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"Good hair"-Uzi

1619 the 1st slaves are brought to American shores
thus begins the phrase “mine is better than yours?” (huh?)
forced to serve-too broke to by freedom
the systematic rape of African culture has begun
little time

Only you...

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subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise You). ashhadu anla ilaha illa anta (I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You). astaghfiruka (I seek Your forgiveness), wa atuubu ilaika (and I turn to You in Repentance).

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subhaanakallahumma (Glory be to you, Oh Allah), wabihamdika (and I praise You).
Ashhadu anla ilaha illa anta (I bear witness that none has the right to be
worshipped except You). Astaghfiruka

Amaizing how all of these people (me included) who are so touched and inspired by the music of both of you cats have the opportunity to touch back. That's some powerful shit.

...and I love that jay wants to take it back to the days when battlin was fun. I just hope those other dudes don't take this shit too seriously. That damn balerina needs to learn to laugh at his goofy-assed self.

may god bless both of you to keep blessing all of us.

peace

This post reminds me of when people were all up in arms about the rumors of Mos Def and Beyonce dating. People act as if artists live the stereotypical bullshit labels that we put on them as musicians. As if "conscious" MCs can't get along personably with, uhh...un-conscious ones. I'm not the biggest Jay-Z fan in the world, but I don't sit around imagining that dude is a bad person or whatever. Why wouldn't he be cool?

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Now Playing: Ghostface Killah - 'Bulletproof Wallets...Director's Cut' (v1.2)

01. Intro
02. The Sun (f/ Raekwon, Slick Rick & The RZA)
03. Maxine
04. The Watch
05. Flowers {original} (f/ Raekwon, Method Man & Superb)
06. Never Be The Same Again. (f/ Carl Thomas & Raekwon)
07. Teddy Skit
08. Theodore (f/ Trife & Twiz)
09. Ghost Showers
10. Strawberry (f/ Killah Sin)
11. Figure 8 Skit
12. The Forest {w/ bridge}
13. The Juks (f/ Trife & Superb)
14. Walking Through The Darkness (f/ Tekitha)
15. Jealousy
16. Good Times (f/ Raekwon & Superb)
17. The Hilton (f/ Raekwon)
18. Interlude
19. Love Session (f/ Ruff Endz)
20. Street Chemistry

Total Running Time - 56:54


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December 10th: "Cry" single officially released (UK)(Includes Invincible outtake "Shout" and Bad outtake "Streetwalker")
(Enhanced CD with "Cry" video)

December 18th: "Butterflies" single officially released (US)

January 2002: Unbreakable Short Film Debut. Produced by Lucasarts Studios

March 2002: Appearence in Lisa Minnelli's TV tribute. 10 minute broadway dance & song routine

Michael Jackson will rule the world once again }> }> }> }>

In Heavy Rotation;

DJ Mark Farina- Mushroom Jazz Vol.2
Radiohead- I Must Be Wrong : Live Recordings
Angie Stone- Mahogany Soul
Duke Ellington & John Coltrane
Prince- The Rainbow Children
Jill Scott- The Experience 826+
Michael Jackson- Invincible
Roberta Flack- First Take

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That's why I put quotes around it. I think it's a bullshit label.

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Maybe it was k orr in the 'Takeover' post? I meant to save it. But it was a couple of lucid paragraphs about how the "conscious" label is a tool just like the "jiggy" label. Just on a smaller level.

>about how the "conscious"
>label is a tool just
>like the "jiggy" label. Just
>on a smaller level.

That's why they get along so well, that's why they help
eachother and that's why quest brings jay-z on his boards
Both use a different tool, but they have a (similar or the same) goal,
both of em..

right now they be exchanging ideas about where to go from now (and how to meet somewhere in the middle)


"And finding out how Americans see the world is the scariest shit ever.... I swear, some of y'all really need to travel." - tohunga

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